hunt-general

[mild flower]

fast fingers, literally just putting more mosin DNA into the previously-unique single shots

[trail spade]

Oh yeah 100% no other explanation fits imo. Bow quite literally does it all

[mild flower]

imo the best thing that single shots could get is unique damage dropoff range [for everything] but i doubt such a big change like that will happen

[mild flower]

also iirc one of the only two weapons that has a trait specifically dedicated to it? other one being martialist with katana

[bright plover]

I've become a crossbow believer. Even if it's not the best weapon, the ego boost of killing people running these loadouts is immense. On another note, the tip to just run away from solo bushwankers worked wonders, I don't think the guy even chased us.

[rose kite]

I’m still waiting on snow map to come to this game

[hazy crest]

Probably gonna be waiting a while

[trail spade]

Doesnt crossbow also have 1 for it

[mild flower]

yes crossbow is crazy

[rose kite]

That and inferno tbh

[mild flower]

no, that applies to bomb lance, bomb launcher and hand crossbow as well.

hundred hands is ONLY hunting bow

[bright plover]

I'm testing steel bolts lately, but so far I much preferred shotbolts. The drop is meaningful, but since I mostly used the crossbow at 1-30 meters range, it's not much of a problem and oneshot to a leg is godly. Steel bolts disappointed me a few times with arm shots, but we'll see.

[trail spade]

I like shotbolts a lot more too but I have to play more with steel

[rose kite]

Last dlc character y’all used, and you had to play solo, what are your odds of surviving with their signature weapon?

[hazy crest]

I’m surprised they haven’t given martialist interactions with other weapons yet. Didn’t they say they that was on the list of future additions when they added it… 2 years ago

[trail spade]

Katana was such a weird addition lmao

Not complaining tho

[hazy crest]

Should have stayed a 2 slot

Only reason to bring a saber now is for pirate cosplay

Katana is just better

[rose kite]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they made a pirate character tbh

[hazy crest]

We have multiple

[trail spade]

Saber needs martialist like ability ngl

[rose kite]

I mean like an actual pirate

[mild flower]

deckhand

[rose kite]

Eh… can you call him a pirate tbh?

[mild flower]

i disagree, katana doesn't need a nerf. it's balanced if not bad. other melees are just bad

[mild flower]

i did

[rose kite]

He kind of looks like a sailor ish tbh I was hoping someone close to looking like Blackbeard tbh

[trail spade]

You want a parrot on his shoulder too ?

Pirates are sailors lmao

[rose kite]

Ehh would but nice but wouldn’t fit the game tbh

[snow ivy]

yea, shame parrots went extinct after overuse by pirates

we're far past the point of tasteful aesthetic, plenty of skins in the last few years have been tone deaf

[rose kite]

Okay but serious question, if y’all could one weapon to be nerf but one weapon to be buff which one y’all picking

[hazy crest]

Mosin and scottfield

[mild flower]

One ain't enough 😭

[mild flower]

I don't think mosin is the right choice to nerf tbh, too many alternatives nowadays. I'd nerf something more unique. maybe hunting bow.

[snow ivy]

I just want Crytek to fix Scottfield fanning, the max tap firing speed has been glitched for 3 years now

[hazy crest]

I see way more mosins than hunting bows. I’d rather get some variety. A few krags, berthiers, and lebels but nope, everyone spams mosin

[snow ivy]

Scottfirld used to be fantastic for fanning and its been garbage for years because of the bug they claimed they fixed a few updates ago

[rose kite]

Romero and lemat for me

[hazy crest]

Romero does not need a nerf

Maybe the shorty but you would have to re nerf all the 2 slot shotguns if you nerf Romero shorty

and lemat is a great secondary

[dense girder]

1. Nerf Mosin
2. Nerf 2-slot shotguns

[snow ivy]

all of the LeMats are already great, taking them from the slowest pistol velocity to the fastest was fantastic

[dense girder]

Yeah nah Romero or lemat don't need a nerf

[hazy crest]

He wants lemat buffed

[rose kite]

I was talking about buffing lemat to my question 🙂

[dense girder]

Oh, I thought it was about nerfing

[mild flower]

I'd probably nerf hunting bow, and slightly buff maybe sparks pistol or uppercut@rose kite

[dense girder]

I don't want to buff mosin or 2 slot shotungs for sure xD

[mild flower]

lemat doesnt need a buff imo, it's good as is

[dense girder]

I don't think they need a buff either way tho. Rather a nerf of other weapons. Otherwise you'll just get a powercreep

[rose kite]

That what I was gonna ask when was last time sparks pistol or uppercut got buffed?

[snow ivy]

people barely use 2 slot shotguns, if you nerf them they become useless again, you might see an Auto 4 or Romero Handcannon from time to time, Mosin is just slightly better than the other long ammo rifles

[dense girder]

What?

[mild flower]

uppercut got gutted with a few nerfs, and both got generally very heavily nerfed with bullet drop.
uppercut is also much less relevant now that pax trueshot fmj exists

[hazy crest]

I think the spistol is quite a strong option right now. One of the fastest muzzle velocities in the game for a one slotter and still hits for full sparks damage

[mild flower]

yea but too much drop imo
same with uppercut

[hazy crest]

Spistol is I think second furthest pistol drop range behind trueshot hv

[dense girder]

Mosin + Auto 4 is the top meta right now lol. And the Mosin just overshadows other long ammo rifles. There's a reason you see Mosin 95% of the time in 6* lobbies, not the Krag, Lebel or even Mako

[hazy crest]

But all pistols need a drop range buff imo

[mild flower]

this

[mild flower]

sure but if mosin were nerfed then krag and berthier would be pretty identical alternatives. i dont think nerfing mosin alone would do all too much, they would all need to be brought down

[trail spade]

Buff nitro

[dense girder]

And by the love of god, if nerfing 2 slot shotungs make them useless again, so be it. Let us see more revolvers in a cowboy game again

[trail spade]

It should 1 tap anywhere at 10m

[mild flower]

just revert penetration nerf, nitro fixed ez

[trail spade]

Yeah but that would need them to actually care

Id take a 10m death anywhere if hit

[mild flower]

this would need them to care too ;p;

[snow ivy]

uh, no, Mosin+Dolch is top and always will be, they're usually running Spitzer anyways, I prefer the Krag for rof, make Spitzer scarce and you'd see more variance, although many are running Spitzer because they cheat with iron sight magnification

[trail spade]

Gotta love my elephant gun not being able to kill a dude in the arm at near point blank range

[rose kite]

O, only reason I asked cause it one of few weapons I don’t touch really hasnt touch it since serpent moon event and even back then uppercut still expensive asf

[mild flower]

yeah uppercut's price is not warranted right now

[trail spade]

Pax trueshot is goated fr

[versed pine]

am I blind, I can't find a way to use proximity chat without team voice chat

[snow ivy]

sounds like pistols need to be buffed, 2 slot shotguns are barely relevant, you just remember the few times you were slugged by an Auto 4 because you chose to push into shotgun range and didn't consider they might have one

[mild flower]

it could honestly be dropped to like a 150hd weapon at most

[trail spade]

Tbh maybe just outright cutting costs of weapons would make em better

[versed pine]

the money doesnt matter, there is no economy~

[snow ivy]

they should remove the dumb revolver spin on reload to make pistols more appealing

[trail spade]

But a lot of dudes have 500k or some shit

Soo

[rose kite]

Gotcha.

[dense girder]

Yeah, Mosin + Dolch P, and now that 2 slot shotguns are too strong, a lot of Mosin + Auto 4 as well. And Spitzer really isn't the issue that makes the game have less variety, it's not even that common in high 6* from my experience. I'm not even gonna start on that cheater aspect lol.

[mild flower]

no way you just said this

was it a typo?

[trail spade]

Lol fr

[left orbit]

romero shorty 🙏

[rose kite]

Low-key my favorite pistol besides scottfield

[trail spade]

Do you run romero shorty with slugs ?

[trail spade]

Scottfield is basically a pax from wish. Nice taste

[mild flower]

no, slugs aren't very good right now

buckshot got gigabuffed and slugs got nerfed

[dense girder]

1. Nobody uses slugs on it
2. THAT is the whole point. People shouldn't be able to cover all of the ranges and be decent at it. You should either focus on long/mid range or close range, not have a back-up shotgun if you can't manage to keep people at distance.
3. Yeah Pistols do need a buff

[rose kite]

Only reason I say scottfield is cause my favorite skin is on there the ten paces

[trail spade]

That explains a lot..

[mild flower]

the issue isn't being decent at all ranges. it's being great at all ranges. 2 slot shotguns perform almost identically to full sizers. @snow ivy

[trail spade]

Haha nice. Peacemaker skin on trueshot is amazing

Trueshot has amazing fuckin skins

[rose kite]

Oh most definitely 💪🏾

I feel like next dlc character should come with nitro express signature weapon it about time
Nitro get some kind of attention again

[snow ivy]

LOLWAT, Spitzer is super common, every game I ran tonight had the whole leaderboard running Mosins, a minimum of 3 Spitzer Mosins every match no exaggeration, 2 slot shotguns are not too strong, they function and do what a shotgun should when you shoot it at someone. If you don't like that don't get within shotgun range. You could bring a shotgun, you know? Giving more variety to loadouts has led to less stalemates because anyone can bring a well rounded loadout

[trail spade]

Nitro is dead bro. They buried it. With the Devil its ok but still not really worth it

[rose kite]

Yea?

[trail spade]

Ye 💀

[snow ivy]

no, handcannons are noticeably weaker to full barrel shotguns

[rose kite]

Well I’ll be damn 😢

[mild flower]

they used to be, but they got a huge buff.

Does anyone have the one shot range chart on hand? the difference between most handcannons and full sizers is about 1-2 meters, not a lot when shotguns one shot upwards of 12m right now

[snow ivy]

nope, try them out in the shooting range and compare before you start talking out your rear

[trail spade]

Problem is 2 slot shotguns compete with bow and they lose hard imo

[rose kite]

Whelp time to get ready to hunt for a bit in bayou solo good luck hunters

[trail spade]

GLHF bro

[snow ivy]

an Obrez functions better as a substitute rifle than a handcannon for a full shotgun

[trail spade]

Vandal + romero shorty is goated for cheap runs

But then again.. bow..

[mild flower]

just have, but imma look for the chart rq

[dense girder]

Then we play different games, idk what to tell you except I mostly run into people who use regular ammo. 2-slot shotguns for what they are (2 slot) are definitely too strong concidering their OHK range.

And your argument is "If you can't beat them, join them"? Idk how that would fix the issue of the 2 slot shotguns. I think it created more stalemates than before as people who manage to close the gap with their shotgun are too afraid of pushing in because now everyone can have a too-strong backup shotgun.
But anyways, we can continue this conversation at another time, I sadly got some work to do. Take care.

[dawn mantle]

Love how a solo with necro isn't allowed to see where they got shot from with kill view but players in groups can

Also love how I can headshot someone and not kill them

[snow ivy]

yea, I play the cream of the crop, 6 star is a massive bracket now, a sinkhole that absorbed much of the old 5 and 4 star brackets, low 6 star doesn't compare to high 6 star, completely different metas

[dawn mantle]

also also love how they can see through the hard rain and know my exact position without hanged man.

[hazy crest]

I don’t believe there is a single 2 slot shotguns that has more than a 2 meter range difference from its full length counterpart currently

[dense girder]

Well I'd have to check what exact MMR I'm at, but probably in higher 6* as I have a consistent KD of 1,72

[dawn mantle]

Why is it always the runs that will get me a level 50 hunter too

[dense girder]

What is yours at precicsely to compare it to?

[hazy crest]

Hand Cannons
Rival hc - Buck 10m, Slug 11.5m
Terminus hc - Buck 11.5m, Slugs 11.5m
Auto 4 - Buck is 11.5m, Slug is 11.5m
Specter hc - Buck 11.5m, Slug 11.5m
Haymaker - Buck 10.5 Slug 11.5
Drilling hc - Buck 13.2 Slug 11.5
Romero hc Buck 13.2 Slug 11.5

Medium Barrel
Slate - Buck 12.9m Slug 13.9m
Rival - Buck 12m Slug 13.9
Lemat Carbine - Buck 12m, Slug 13.9m

Long Barrel
Auto 5 - Buck 12ish, Slugs 15.5
Specter - Buck 13.3m, Slug 15.5
Romero - Buck 13.6m, 15.5m
Drilling - Buck 13.5, Slug 15.5

[dawn mantle]

Like I sniped them, fucking left, and they somehow tracked me through both shadow and shadow leap and got me at extract (THE HORSES DID NOT MAKE THE FUCKING ALERT SOUND IM JUST REALIZING THAT)

[trail spade]

What I see from this is that the drilling is based as hell

[snow ivy]

the meta is whatever is consistently successful, imagine playing on an even playing field, sorry but in any meta a few optimal guns are going to dominate, not that many people lean into the Auto 4 because it is limited in range compared to the Dolch, people would rather just use Pennyshot Derringer as an emergency shotgun and play range, that is the smart conservative playstyle

[mild flower]

thanks mate, is this the up-to-date one?

[trail spade]

German engineering and all that

[hazy crest]

Afaik

[mild flower]

well it has auto 4 so it must be

[dense girder]

I mean yeah, that's the definition of meta. But that's not fixing anything either, you know?

[mild flower]

@snow ivy #hunt-general message hey i found the chart

[snow ivy]

what needs to be fixed? there is 20 times as many Uppercuts being used as the Auto 4, you don't seem bothered by that

[dawn mantle]

Question, thoughts on being able to get "tokens" for scarce traits? Like daily tribute can drop a "shadow" token and you can apply shadow to a single hunter (As a rare reward, ofc)

[trail spade]

I think you can use whatever you want and still do well in this game. I dont think meta is as bad as people say. But idk I am a returning player

[snow ivy]

those numbers aren't accurate

[dawn mantle]

There are objectively better weapons. That said, headshots are the great equilizer.

[mild flower]

alr mate if you want to listen to your feelings from your uncontrolled gameplay rather than the actual data, be my guest, but don't lecture me about talking out my rear

[trail spade]

Yes exactly !

[hazy crest]

The drilling hc and Romero hc numbers are. I thought that was crazy so tested it personally. Can’t speak for the other ones but if those are right I don’t see why the rest wouldn’t

[trail spade]

Drilling stays winning

[dawn mantle]

Ok serious question, can players in groups see their killer's position? Or only after everyones dead

[rose kite]

Haven’t used drilling much since the prodigal brother dlc dropped, is it even a good weapon to use long term if gonna main it?

[trail spade]

Only after everyone died afaik

[light sky]

Reading this chat this early is not healthy guys

go back to bed

[dawn mantle]

I'm trying to figure out how someone knows my exact location after headshotting their friend from 70m

[trail spade]

Its 2 PM

[mild flower]

only after everyone's dead, but it does say the distance from the killer and the weapon and type of kill [wallbang/headshot etc]

[dawn mantle]

Using suppressed+subsonic

[light sky]

In the main timeline it is 7AM

[dawn mantle]

like I was nowhere near close enough

[hazy crest]

How America centric of you

[snow ivy]

you said you tested them out in the shooting range when you obviously didn't, you refer to numbers someone else pulled out of their rear, you don't have a leg to stand on

[trail spade]

Maybe witness if you killed an AI ?

[mild flower]

dead bodies point their feet toward the killer, so that would definetely help.

i find it very useful for finding the killer

[light sky]

Thanks

[trail spade]

Damn you still playing maintimeline ? Nah we running AI extermination in this bitch

[dawn mantle]

Shadow, no AI were killed (until after I started using shadow leap to run)

[light sky]

[dawn mantle]

Fuck I forgot that fact

Ok fair enough.

I was shooting from a very weird spot

[light sky]

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-lebron-james-meme-funny-gif-3425517799009042574

[hazy crest]

Test literally any of them and tell me it’s wrong

[light sky]

I hate AI

[mild flower]

tf is this

[dawn mantle]

Like you wouldn't go "there could be a sniper up there" but if somethings telling you "look over there" you'd notice the spot.

[trail spade]

Ah yes

[hazy crest]

Slop

[light sky]

First thing that showed when I type "AI"

[trail spade]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-dwayne-johnson-hehehehah-ai-eat-gif-7918308610889535019

[rose kite]

https://tenor.com/view/hunt-showdown-hundred-hands-hunt-showdown-hundred-hands-get-on-hunt-gif-1626924295609351556

[snow ivy]

I've tested them all and you're wrong on all of them

[hazy crest]

Mhm mhm very believable

Considering I’ve fact checked two of them personally

[mild flower]

then show us

[snow ivy]

show me the chart

[light sky]

https://tenor.com/view/alonso-f1-relaxing-misinformation-gif-15672155568234219986

[hazy crest]

scroll up

[trail spade]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[snow ivy]

show a real chart not just numbers you made up, I'm not entertaining anyone spreading blatant misinformation

[hazy crest]

where’s the misinformation

[light sky]

those are real numbers

[hazy crest]

Show me

[light sky]

lol

[snow ivy]

show me the chart

[trail spade]

What even are numbers ?

[snow ivy]

copy pasting numbers is not a chart

[light sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-see-shit-gif-10340128

[rose kite]

This will be fun trying to get back into the 4 stars again

[light sky]

that's easy

[trail spade]

That MMR is peak hunt anyway

[hazy crest]

#hunt-general message
Viola

Just pick one number

Test it

Tell me it’s wrong

[rose kite]

Yea I always been at 3 it’s will be a few solos so it’s no problem

[snow ivy]

none of you can provide real concrete data, colour me surprised

[rose kite]

Yea Ik that fun part which is competition 😄

[light sky]

brother is fixated on negating reality

crazy

[trail spade]

Im just here for the nerdy 🤓 discord beef

[hazy crest]

Pretty sure he’s just trolling at this point

[rose kite]

Mhmm…

https://tenor.com/view/hunt-showdown-hunter-hunt-chasse-gif-12779977705258343824

[trail spade]

Pick X gun.

Stream the test.

Debate solved

[scarlet plinth]

This is a showdown huh?

[snow ivy]

just provide a single shred of verifiable evidence, not hard

[trail spade]

No this is a Hunt

[hazy crest]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-meme-wrong-number-gif-14740812

[rose kite]

Sigh… if only I had my t bone steak this would of been worth it watching this debate 😭

[snow ivy]

when their only rebuttal is meme gifs its time to wrap it up and go to bed

[trail spade]

This would have been so easy to just have 1 dude go to practice and stream the test

[rose kite]

Or that tbh

[hazy crest]

I’m lying in bed I ain’t turning on my computer. If the dude wants to live in his delusions whatever I give up

[trail spade]

Im going to main drilling now anyway

[light sky]

https://sheet.zohopublic.com/sheet/published/lblid65019f09fd6445ad9ec78a5c16f6e286?sheetid=0&range=A1

there you got your sheet

[rose kite]

Ehh back to man cave I go 😕

[hazy crest]

I didn’t think he wants a sheet he wants a fight

[trail spade]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-meme-jjba-gif-4322638546229085656

Him rn

[mild flower]

Romero hc Buck 13.2 Slug 11.5
Romero - Buck 13.6m, 15.5m

@snow ivy

here

[light sky]

If he questions the sheet that guy spent time testing and putting effort in, I call trolling

[mild flower]

shouldve pinged, https://sheet.zohopublic.com/sheet/published/lblid65019f09fd6445ad9ec78a5c16f6e286?sheetid=0&range=A1 @snow ivy here as well

watch them ghost us now tho

thoughts on this loadout anyone? dont mind the martini fmj, testing it for viability since the pen nerf

[hazy crest]

I have ethical issues with dark dynamite

[mild flower]

why

[hazy crest]

Too quiet and easy to hide in map geometry

[mild flower]

i agree

[mild flower]

also you can make it practically inaudible, actually invisible and practically invisible even to vigilant by putting it inside event lair bounty token

[dawn mantle]

So why use the dolch over the bornheim

[mild flower]

pretty much every single reason

mostly, it two taps to the chest

bornheim does not

[frigid ibex]

I dislike dark dynamite satchel, does not vibe with my hunt vision

[dawn mantle]

fair enough

[slow thunder]

consider this
Fire beetle + small red barrel

[mild flower]

i personally find the concept fine, but the execution poor

[light sky]

Dark Satchel my beloved, baby barrels my beloved

[dawn mantle]

So, why exactly should I use pennyshot over default pennyshot

[hazy crest]

It’s effectively a remotely activated c4 charge

Doesn’t feel very gilded age horror to me

[mild flower]

what

"default pennyshot"?

[dawn mantle]

meant buckshot

[mild flower]

oh. the answer is no.

you should not.

[hazy crest]

Yeah you shouldn’t if you want to be effective

Only things pennies are better for is nuking bosses

[light sky]

Pennyshot is effective if you make it effective

just be a pennychad

and it will kill

[mild flower]

the short answer is no, the long answer is "hehe funny noise chingkrkrkrkr"

[dawn mantle]

So considering I'm just gonna melee bosses to death with my slate riposte I should just use buckshot

[mild flower]

yes.

[hazy crest]

I’m a dragon’sbreath connoisseur

[light sky]

That's even worse than pennyshots smh

[mild flower]

my man

[mild flower]

no because at least it does something better than buckshot in pvp and it's still a pve beast

[hazy crest]

But better for making your enemies hate their existence

[light sky]

nuh huh

[mild flower]

https://tenor.com/Gutm.gif

[light sky]

anyway, breakfast time, see you folks around

[mild flower]

guh

[light sky]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-gitgud-silksong-hollowknight-gif-11555526335271834339

[hazy crest]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-hornet-hollow-knight-sploinky-gif-1377865536021832535

[mild flower]

why does she have to be naked

[sinful aurora]

upside of pennyshot:
easier to get kills on limb hits or when aim slightly off target compared to buck/slugs
can easily destroy doors in 1-2 hits.
shreds monsters even bosses, meatheads and bears.
more ammo and better ammo resupply.

Downsides of pennyshot:
less effective range
no pen

[mild flower]

downsides of pennyshot:
pennyshot

[dawn mantle]

who pens with buckshot kek

[mild flower]

buckshot is the best shotgun ammo type for penning rn

slugs got their pen destroyed

[hazy crest]

Pen is pretty important in close quarters fights

You get someone low and they back behind a wall just shoot them through the wall

[frigid ibex]

The concept is remotely detonated c4

[mild flower]

yup

[sinful aurora]

i personally always play my romero/slate/specter with pennies. always regret when i bring buckshot because of it not killing because my aim was slightly off.
i don't put penny on any other shotguns tho and wouldn't recommend it because they lose too much range.

[mild flower]

what about it

[inland ore]

https://youtu.be/ZLkGwbZQumk?si=zttbt-_EWsC_Epys

This guy has the same CPU, but my cpu usage is always at 100%…and my gpu is 6700xt

[dawn mantle]

yeah im thinking pennies if limbshots are better

And I'm using riposte, worst case I follow up with a melee

[sinful aurora]

try it out and see how it feels

i would say it's personal preference

[mild flower]

is frag bomb always best for explosive ammo detonate tech or should i bring other explosives too? considering big dyna but i might blow myself up

[hazy crest]

The point of shotguns is to not need to enter melee range

[south shore]

Am I seeing pennyshot slander in chat

[dawn mantle]

I would use dragons breath if slate could use it

[light sky]

not from me

[sinful aurora]

4 jars of bees XD

[dawn mantle]

what I bring when I can't decide what I want to bring

[hazy crest]

Hive ammo for the bomb lance when

[dawn mantle]

https://tenor.com/orJi.gif

[mild flower]

no regen shot is crazy

but based

[dawn mantle]

people dont usually live long enough to use it

Most of my fights are usually over in like 4 seconds

[hazy crest]

The mosin sniper that’s gonna leg you 3 times from 150 meters:

[dawn mantle]

now what traits to bring

[sinful aurora]

packmule to restock after you throw your bess
vulture to loot those coins to turn into pennyshot shells

[mild flower]

is martini henry fmj currently the only rifle capable of downing a 125hp hunter through wall [without a headshot]?

[dawn mantle]

Still hate I can't search weapons in traits menu to see what affects it, only the other way around

[south shore]

4 bars of jees

[sinful aurora]

jee

[south shore]

Z

[dawn mantle]

heebeejeebees

[sinful aurora]

jeez nuts

[south shore]

https://tenor.com/view/gotem-gif-18695498

[hazy crest]

500 bee jars

[mild flower]

4 bars of nuts?

[south shore]

500 bee jars = Server crash

!!!!!

[sinful aurora]

reminds me of a certain bug where shooting a floating bee jar would spawn a dozen swarms. horrible

[scarlet plinth]

Is it even possible to…crash a server

[onyx gulch]

Honest question, is it everyone that hates reptilian players because the skin or its a meme? I have a friend only that plays hunt so o cant be sure if its personal hate from hum

[hazy crest]

Full trio with all bee jars with that bug probably would

[scarlet plinth]

The plauge

[hazy crest]

144 swarms of bees

[scarlet plinth]

Famine…

[hazy crest]

I don’t think there are people that are gonna actively target/shit talk you for playing reptilian but it’s one of the og bush wookie skins

[dawn mantle]

I'm one of the few reptillians who aint sitting in a bush I'm rushing you with a lance

[mystic ravine]

Romero:

[dawn mantle]

Many have tried

Many have failed

Many have cried

[mystic ravine]

Most have succeeded

[dawn mantle]

Actually no

I win more often then not if they're using Romero

[south shore]

Needs to come back as a feature

But

As a sack

[dawn mantle]

It's the rival that at least brings it up to 50/50

[south shore]

That spawns 30 bileweavers

https://tenor.com/view/spider-nope-move-away-nasa-explosion-gif-14113120

[dawn mantle]

would literally be my only weapon

[south shore]

Kinda like this

[dawn mantle]

I'd go in with a sack of spiders and start distributing them

[south shore]

Oh wow thats a way longer gif then I was expecting

[whole girder]

rate the loadout?

[south shore]

Lay off the stam shots please this is your family we love you

[hazy crest]

they should have had a big egg sac that spawns like 10 of em at once in the lair

[dawn mantle]

The only thing I've seen thrown harder is my duo partner throwing the match

[hazy crest]

Remove everything but the hammer and you’ll get my seal of approval

[onyx gulch]

I thougth the game whould crash If you dont bushcamp with him

[mild flower]

gonna send this to people whenever they ask what the meta is right now

[dawn mantle]

Like I'll creep through the bush

But I am banzai charging your ass the moment I'm close

[whole girder]

how about now?

[hazy crest]

Better

[south shore]

Yeah bettwr

Pistols and hammer for close
Derringer for long range

I approve

[hazy crest]

Ah yes the long range penninger

[dawn mantle]

what traits should I bring

[south shore]

Yes

[south shore]

Quad bornheim

[dawn mantle]

maybe next time

[left orbit]

why did they block the openings there

[hazy crest]

Probably the prison rework

Like 1.5 years ago

[left orbit]

of course but i mean why

feels like R6 where more and more windows were blocked with hard metal

[mild flower]

made a couple changes. replaced conc mines with alerts so i can test out the idea of wallbang downing hunters with 1 bar missing with martini fmj

[hazy crest]

I read when sorry. Probably felt shitty getting shot through a pixel gap while going up the stairs outside

[chrome lintel]

Essentially that yeah. Done to make the building assailable

[inland ore]

hi...is there anything wrong with my system

[zealous frost]

summary of hunt showdown 2025 in loadout

very much skillbased game

[mystic ravine]

you need to be quite good to play without heals

[zealous frost]

a bushwookie with rng spam weapons dont need heals

they netflix n chilling

[light sky]

https://tenor.com/view/kirara-skill-issue-genshin-impact-gif-14357226720208711058

[zealous frost]

if they are not running/hiding

[mystic ravine]

are you not supposed to run or hide in hunt?

[south shore]

This is what spooky my pookie looks like.irl

[zealous frost]

bro

[mystic ravine]

i thought that's the appeal

i guess im the bushwookie in question

[zealous frost]

apparently in 2025 thats the thing

its 0 skill

its just spam and traps and bushwookies

ugly playstyles

[whole girder]

thoughts?

[zealous frost]

everything looks perfect if you remove the green dot in the center

its too big crosshair anyways

[mystic ravine]

would look better with bow

[whole girder]

not that big

[whole girder]

4 bows each?

1 slot bow 👀 🤔

[chrome lintel]

Hand crossbow

[mystic ravine]

i didnt say 4 bows what you on about

[whole girder]

im just thinking out loud

what if bows were 1 slot

[mild flower]

Where's auto 4

[mystic ravine]

would look better if it weren't posted by a dirty undead

[whole girder]

and u can crouch and pull the strings with your feet

wdym

[mystic ravine]

you heard me

[mild flower]

Game is much more aggressive than it used to be imo

[inland ore]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-wuwa-priestess-iuno-moon-gif-5413293762069489078

[amber escarp]

Hello does the Devil Tarot Card only last one Match? I applied it, did not die, get downed whatever and the next round the crosshair seemed to be bigger again and i missed the red symbol in the lower left screen.

[mystic ravine]

this aint the game questions channel

and yes it does go away with extract too

[sinful aurora]

people can ask questions here, only downside is that questions might get lost when there is a lot of messages.

[amber escarp]

thx for the answer. maybe should be added to the card description then as another downside, doesnt get mentioned atm

[manic folio]

why would a card that u use in a match stay after the match is over? its more like common sense

[mystic ravine]

the empress

[manic folio]

ok cmon now

[mild flower]

Because it specifically states it lasts until death.

[amber escarp]

because it clearly states "until your hunter is downed" that does sound a lot like you get this buff until your hunter gets downed the next time whether thats in the next minute or the next matches

[versed pine]

I agree it could be explained better

[inland ore]

I sell my cards for money, am I being dumb

[left orbit]

long ammo qm shorty shotgun / spear
ok
kinda fed up by this bs now

[south shore]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[manic folio]

if u use a regen shot or stamina or get any buff in the game and extract while you still have couple minutes left do you keep that for the next match?

[untold stag]

Chat how do i stop being afraid of killing zombies when im not using a suppressed gun with subsonic ammo

[versed pine]

use throwing knives/axes

[south shore]

Bash their fkn heads in with a bat

[untold stag]

Hmmmmmm that might be the move

[inland ore]

idk man, just ignore the zombies

[untold stag]

But what about the big ones

[inland ore]

dynamite

[untold stag]

But people will see the explosion😧😧😧

Thats why I run suppressed with subsonic

[manic folio]

just use a heavy knife and get a stamina shot

[whole girder]

feedback of dual pistols: very good

i just hit a nasty flick with them LMAO

wait lemme send it

[manic folio]

when was the last time you guys seen a player like this?

[left orbit]

dusters are underrated

[untold stag]

Never probably

[manic folio]

this is a 2.5y old screen shot

[untold stag]

I got like 18 hours i started playing 3 days ago

[inland ore]

scotfield swift is op

[manic folio]

these are his mates

[untold stag]

But I keep getting killed by prestige 100s who got 1k+ hours

[mystic ravine]

prolly never. And I never bother to check anyone's stats

[whole girder]

guys

rate the dualies flick

https://medal.tv/games/hunt-showdown/clips/lq6jgOslhu9deDk6d?invite=cr-MSx2aHksNDQyMDI0MTQw&v=10

[manic folio]

when you get completely destroyed by a team you kinda wanna see what stats they got

[mystic ravine]

nah im js that bad

[inland ore]

thats pure luck

[whole girder]

no shit

[untold stag]

I hate those gun specific weekly challenges

I don't wanna use no damn

Rival 78 man

[mystic ravine]

the mako incident

[untold stag]

I just used explosive ammo for that

Im stuck on the rival and ranger

[mystic ravine]

who even uses mako

[untold stag]

My 2nd ever game i got one tapped by a mako

And my first ever game I got killed by the crocodile

[mystic ravine]

my first ever game was before there was rotjaw 👴

[untold stag]

Im level 69 nice

[untold stag]

I only started 3 days ago

[mystic ravine]

so you didn't even witness the Joker vs Judge Holden event?

aw man

[untold stag]

The what

[mystic ravine]

anyway

I hope you're playing either Ambrose or Caitlyn

fight for the cause

[untold stag]

I do not know who those people are

[left orbit]

hunters

[mystic ravine]

Who you must play, unless you want the eighth base mosin skin

[opal dawn]

Those are rookie numbers. We need more mosin skins

[mystic ravine]

For comparison, there is 1 berthier riposte that's a mythic from like 3 years ago

[opal dawn]

Yeah

I'll bet the Berth skin that's coming is gonna cost like 700bb's

[mystic ravine]

And Patron's Prayer looks way better

than Empty Cairn

[opal dawn]

So people rather want a free skin that costs 300bbs by default

[untold stag]

Ohhhh is that how the event works

[lapis sun]

right. instead of the new one.

[untold stag]

You just gotta use certain Hunters

[mystic ravine]

And score points by getting kills, yes

[mighty hedge]

fix bees again please

[opal dawn]

Everyone gets the rewards regardless, you can just influence it by playing certain hunters

[real fog]

can you fix the hive bomb its phasing through the WALLS!

[untold stag]

I've been using uhmmmm ghost face and the two bloody reds and lonely wolf

Cuz I bought them

[mystic ravine]

I know what you are

[frigid ibex]

Grugmongus

[mystic ravine]

Lonely wolf and bloody reds

[untold stag]

What am I 😧

[opal dawn]

GURG

[untold stag]

I bought them cuz they're on sale

The bloody reds came in a bundle

[mystic ravine]

Everything's on sale

Fuck wrong reply

[untold stag]

Well not everything

Atleast not on Playstation

[mystic ravine]

On steam pretty much every DLC is at least 20% off

Except for new ones

[untold stag]

21 dlc are up to 50% off on Playstation rn

[mystic ravine]

Yeah

[untold stag]

And the bloody reds came in a discounted bundle for blood bonds thats why I bought those

[lapis sun]

GRUG

[untold stag]

Ghostface for the silenced guns

[mystic ravine]

Huh

Not my fav, the ghostface/crypt line of weapons

But to each their own

😊

[untold stag]

I think I'll main like anything thats silenced

Silenced with subsonic

[worn oak]

Coffee time. ☕

[untold stag]

My fav gun so far is the silenced maynard sniper

[mystic ravine]

We got another silenced maynard here

[untold stag]

LOL

[mystic ravine]

Knew it

[untold stag]

I always bring half subsonic half high velocity

As long as they dont know where I am I use subsonic and if they do know I switch to high velocity

[mystic ravine]

Silenced maynard, bow

Or like dual sup bornheims or nagants

They're the bane of my existence

[untold stag]

I do silenced maynard with silenced centennial shorty

[mystic ravine]

Dear god

[untold stag]

Cuz thats the only other silenced gun I got rn aside from the ghost face one but thats a large one

[mystic ravine]

Medium*

Or wair

Huh

[untold stag]

Yeah the centennial is medium

[mystic ravine]

Shi

[untold stag]

But the ghost face one is large

I can't use that as a secondary

[mystic ravine]

I thought it was sparks pistol silenced, on the DLC?

[untold stag]

Frontier 73C silencer

And bornheim silencer

[mystic ravine]

Can't remember everything

[untold stag]

True

[mystic ravine]

Hmm, when are we getting a pistol version for martini

[untold stag]

I was looking for a silenced shotgun but I looked it up and apparently thats not a thing

And everybody on reddit seems to hate the idea of a silenced shotgun

[worn oak]

No there is not, yet.

[untold stag]

Now put a scope on there

[mystic ravine]

And a silencer

[untold stag]

Side mounted

[mystic ravine]

Medium slot avtomat

And dual wielding for hand crossbows

[mild flower]

dont need a pistol. we should get a martini 2 slot though

sparks pistol is already a thing

there is no single shot long ammo medium slot

[mystic ravine]

Just add a sparks pistol match?

Or midtini

[vague sparrow]

is soul survivor basically a battle royale mode?

[versed pine]

When I'm getting two springfield shorties wrapped together

[mystic ravine]

Rival shorty slug

Nah wait just drilling shorty

[versed pine]

When are they implementing the drilling properly

[mystic ravine]

Wdym?

[versed pine]

they have it reversed

[light sky]

King of the hill, yeah

[mystic ravine]

You want it to not be reversed? But that's boring.

[light sky]

there are various versions of the drilling

[left orbit]

hunt crashed my pc -.-

[light sky]

doesn't mean Hunt's is implemented in a bad way

[versed pine]

Was there a double rifle variant then?

I dont remember one

[light sky]

There is

[shell valve]

lf a duo NAW im kinda new dm

[left orbit]

!lfg

[graceful hedge]

Be sure to check out our LFG (looking for group) channels to find a partner:
For PC: #na , #eu, #asia, #oceania, #south-america
For consoles #looking-for-group-console & #looking-for-group-xbox
Regional LFG channels: #ru-поиск-игроков & #br-procurando-grupo

[south shore]

Are you thinking of the luftwaffe drilling with the shells on top?

Hunts is a different variant with the boolets on top and shell on bottom

I dont like it either but if the L drilling was in it would just be a better Rival

[versed pine]

yeah but I can't find any mention of a drilling with double rifle barrels until like 1920

and there was a reason for it not existing

At that time, constructing a weapon to hit at range with a single sight for both barrels was next to impossible

[mild flower]

not necessarily, they could change a few things. like how it isn't just a better romero

[versed pine]

I think Hunt really hurts weapons by not having some built in inaccuracy for bullets, at least at range.

[fathom shale]

That would suck

We already have bullet drop

[versed pine]

Yeah bullet drop that doesnt make sense

[fathom shale]

No need to make long range fights even more miserable

[versed pine]

But people wanting to range with their uppercuts would have been balanced instead of whatever we have now

[mild flower]

another long ammo buff..??

[versed pine]

More like long ammo having a purpose fulfilled

[dense girder]

Hitting your shots shouldn't rely on RNG.

[versed pine]

Now instead we get gamey damage reductions

[mild flower]

so a long ammo buff

[versed pine]

It wont rely on RNG

[dense girder]

But it would be a factor

[versed pine]

You just need to use your weapon within the rated spec

outside the spec shouldn't reward you because of some silly bullet drop mechanic (and it was worse before, I give it that)

[dense girder]

Would make fighting long ammo guns even more painful if you don't have one as well tho

[lofty sinew]

any speed bullet to the tempke is gonna kill ya. makes enough sense to me.

[versed pine]

well long ammo shouldn't have such a damage boost as it does, it's silly, again the gamey aspect

[lofty sinew]

idw alarm you but it is in fact a game

[versed pine]

Sure but it was only needed because they didn't implement other mechanics

[south shore]

Theres not a single person that likes bullet deviation in games that have it. It only exists to artificially inflate ttk and make long range fights frustrating for no reason.

[versed pine]

So it's acceptable to market a game around old timey guns but then make them not perform anything like they should?

Seems weird to me

[uneven cargo]

why is the carpentry so bad in hunt universe? genuinely awful

[dense girder]

It only makes sense in games that prioritize realism (Like Tarkov), but not in any other games

[tall canopy]

fun > realism

[versed pine]

Maybe we can dual avtos next

[uneven cargo]

ruins hunt

[uneven cargo]

making nitro and slugs deviate isnt fun bro

[lofty sinew]

define "should" man, these considerations always come after sensibly designed game mechanics

[tall canopy]

its for better balance -> more fun

[uneven cargo]

maybe fun if youre shit

[versed pine]

Yeah, Hunt, known for it's balance

[uneven cargo]

but if you like using nitro or slugs its not fun

hitting a headshot with a rival at range is a skill shot

iron sights are ass

thats the balance

[tall canopy]

well u shouldnt be able to also snipe with weapion that oneshot u close

[dense girder]

That's subjective.

[uneven cargo]

no one "snipes" with them

[tall canopy]

then dont worrs about random bullet deviation

[uneven cargo]

the iron sights on shotguns arent made for headshots at range, which is why doing them is a skill

didnt need to be nered

[versed pine]

also I am only asking for deviation up to a point, if the gun shouldn't be shooting accurately at 50m, start deviation there, use a gun when it makes sense

[uneven cargo]

what

[versed pine]

It's the only middle ground

[uneven cargo]

ADD BLOOM TO HUNT
FOR BALANCE AND FUN

:)

[lofty sinew]

yeah the only middle ground. crytek, they really have you over a barrell here. wwyd, omg

[versed pine]

But instead let's balance pistols against range game of rifles and complain about long ammo because the only balance is damage

or reload guns hilariously slow for balance

[uneven cargo]

pisses me off

[mild flower]

no matter what, if there is any level of deviation, there will be shots that wouldnt have missed if you didn't get unlucky even within a weapon's effective range. people don't always hit the very center of the head.

[versed pine]

That's why I am saying, the middle ground would be effective range=on crosshair, past that the deviation starts

[lofty sinew]

you can't logic someone out of a position they didn't logic themselves into

[opal dawn]

EDDRUN

[uneven cargo]

hunt balance has and always will be dumb and shit, like hunters only being able to carry 8 fucking bullets for a pistol is so funny its dumb

[mild flower]

so you're suggesting that the bullet randomly whizzes off on a different trajectory at the range where deviation starts? wtf?

[tall canopy]

you´rew acting like this needs a middle ground cause 50% are for and against it. in reality nobody cares about that

[versed pine]

bullet drop isn't a deviation, it's a standard and not a punishment

[left orbit]

get one of those skins with bullet belts. 60 bullets P2W, how'bout dat?

[uneven cargo]

stfu

[left orbit]

sorry what?

[opal dawn]

lmao

[tall canopy]

stay respectful

[opal dawn]

keegan's just living up to their name

[mild flower]

i dislike quartermaster

[dense girder]

Make QM scarce

[tall canopy]

hell no

[mild flower]

hell yes

[opal dawn]

I'm honestly not against that idea, maybe make it a 10 point trait

[dense girder]

hell yes

[uneven cargo]

scarce guns is a shit addition

[dense girder]

Point cost isn't an issue tbh/wouldn't balance it

[uneven cargo]

youre just wrong LOL

[dense girder]

Nah scarce weapons are cool, being scarce just shouldn't be the balancing factor

[tall canopy]

well the balancing factore for the 2 new scarce weapons is them being scarce

[dense girder]

How so? Upgrade points are never the issue, but the limited slots.

[versed pine]

The only two scarce weapons should have been avto and dolch since they are prototypes

[dense girder]

Which isn't really a balancing factor now is it? Only cause you encounter them less, doesn't mean that they aren't too strong (Speaking of Wildland)

[left orbit]

y'all missing the point with QM. what you truly want is a game with only springfield regular ammo and nothing else (and i mean, nothing else)

[versed pine]

I'm a springfield main, so yes

[dense girder]

I want a game with only shovels

[uneven cargo]

ew

[opal dawn]

I played a lot of long ammo a lot a month or so back, and honestly it made me a worse player

It's so forgiving if you don't headshot

[mild flower]

do you feel the same way about martini and sparks?

[opal dawn]

Not as much, because of the slow rof

[versed pine]

I wish Hunt would put objectively bad guns in the game instead of always trying to add to the meta

[uneven cargo]

just add more

i went thru a wiki list of revolvers, they still lack so many

[mild flower]

on one hand, martini and sparks are some of the most body-shot-forgiving weapons, but at the same time, you really have to exercise trigger discipline and control with them as well as managing downtime/uptime

i think they're great weapons for building those certain skills

[versed pine]

give me a blunderbuss

[uneven cargo]

i talked about that w homies, add older weapons, why not

balance would be hard tho

[versed pine]

no, dont balance it

make it shit

I will still use it

[uneven cargo]

blunderbuss would just either be a sparks or a nitro

[opal dawn]

I mean, it punishes bad aim, and they're a bit more situational to get that kill if you don't get a headshot

[uneven cargo]

and the only gun where deviation makes sense

[mild flower]

would be closer to a romero pennyshot imo

[uneven cargo]

cus they arent rifled

[opal dawn]

It IS very funny to shoot people who are dropping from a roof though

[mild flower]

mb didnt mean to thumbs down react, misclick

stfu keegan

[uneven cargo]

[mild flower]

i have started experimenting with martini fmj and explosive

fmj can do 125 through wall, so it's not useless anymore since pen nerfs

[uneven cargo]

horse saddles ALWAYS give me more money than an actual fucking cash register.

[versed pine]

also let me take the derringer as a main weapon

[uneven cargo]

useless

its already in your tool slot

[versed pine]

more ammo

[opal dawn]

This, but it's still one-slot

[uneven cargo]

you are the type of person to use a kalibri in BF1

[versed pine]

Probably

I like using stuff in PvP that people dont like using

[left orbit]

wth is this atrocity xD

[mild flower]

derringer carbine when

or derringer upperinger

[versed pine]

dual derringers

[uneven cargo]

remove soul survivor or combine its stat tracker with bounty

thanks

[versed pine]

Weird request, why

[uneven cargo]

its useless and id play the gamemode more it it added to my stats

or a solo mode

solo duos is ass most of the time

[versed pine]

Can solo 3 mans

which is the most fun

[south shore]

What ruins hunt?

[uneven cargo]

im an average player so dunking on 6 star 3 stacks as a solo dosent happen often

[south shore]

No way soul survivor greay

[versed pine]

I wish we had 3 man soul survivor mode

[paper anvil]

is mosin considered a "no-skill" weapon ?

[versed pine]

No, nothing is no skill

[uneven cargo]

its meta but aiming requires skill

[uneven cargo]

lie^

[paper anvil]

alr,was wondering cuz i played a match with it and dang..5 kills

[opal dawn]

Le Carbine du Derringue!

[paper anvil]

6 with my teammate's

[opal dawn]

Not no-skill, but it's more forgiving

[versed pine]

It's got a high skill floor, so people think it's easy

but skill makes it far more deadly

[opal dawn]

The thing two-taps anywhere above the waist at atrocious ranges

[versed pine]

Problem is mosin gameplay will make you slightly bad at everything else if it's the only thing you play

[opal dawn]

I've noticed

Cut back on it and went back to more Cent

[versed pine]

Your pattern of aggressiveness and re-peaks wont work nearly as well even with other fast rifles

But yeah, as said early, I main springfield so the steam comments can be good when you kill spitzer mosin user

[mild flower]

it's overpowered, but not no skill

[south shore]

Kinda goes against the soul/sole bit

[versed pine]

Does it even matter, they threw away that lore

[south shore]

Thats like wishing there was a Team Free for All

[versed pine]

But I just want to do something other than rush the boss compound over and over with my buddies, it's a tad old

[south shore]

Play a different game for a bit

Dont burn yourself out on hunt

[versed pine]

I did, I dropped hunt for a year, 3 rounds and noticed nothing has changed, the same bugs are still here

made me more depressed than anything

[south shore]

Hunt is making you depressed?

[quiet hinge]

why do you feel you need to rush the boss compound over and over? hunt is literally a make your own fun kind of game where you and your friends get to decide how you want to play the game

[south shore]

Dawg

[versed pine]

Seeing it wasted

[ancient sage]

this isn’t exactly a balance change, it’s more to change the decisions and playstyles in game. Only having few bullets makes you more likely to be careful with your shots and actually need to find more ammo throughout your game.

[ancient sage]

but why

[versed pine]

to stop people playing poke with pistols at 70m, to stop people complaing small ammo needs to compete with long ammo, to let the guns act more like their real world equivalents

It's sad that people say one of the unique aspects of Hunt is the 1890s guns but then they go and make most of them not really play like their 1890s equivalent besides... a revolver being a revolver

[uneven cargo]

still silly if u think abt it

[ancient sage]

realistically it is silly yeah

[uneven cargo]

the real world bullets dontr deviate

[versed pine]

They deviate more than what I'm suggesting, what do you mean

[glass nebula]

ребята я объявляю каминг аут

[versed pine]

between imperfection in the sites, human reflex, gun and ammo intolerances, I'm being extremely nice in my suggestion on deviations lol

[uneven cargo]

none of the guns ive used at a gun range have

[south shore]

#ru-контрибьюторы

[uneven cargo]

but tbf ive never shot over 150m

[opal dawn]

Deviation also depends on barrel type, I don't know if the IRL Nitro and Auto-5 have smooth or rifled barrels

All ammo deviates, but modern ammo is really good so you don't notice it unless you're at quite long distances

[quiet hinge]

I don't even know whats not viable in hunt right now, balance atm is pretty good

[wicked yacht]

^

[mild flower]

depends what your threshold for "viable" is

[ancient sage]

making the assumption that people would make mistakes with reflexes and deviation in real life only to make it deviate all the time would only make people frustrated

[uneven cargo]

are u 6 star

[versed pine]

Go shoot a 1890s revolver at a 75m target, lmk if you are hitting exactly where the site is. There's a reason smooth bore rifles existed and we just didnt use pistols only.

[uneven cargo]

yes bcus youve done the same thing lol

[versed pine]

It's not even that, people who use machines to fire guns still have deviations

[quiet hinge]

i was the last time i played

you don't need mosin spitzer dolch to win games

you can do it with a winfield

[wicked yacht]

Yeah hunt does not need random bullet deviation from center, that would piss people off endlessly

[uneven cargo]

i dont use mosin

[versed pine]

Even in 6 star, everything is useful. I was mentioning how people would literally unready when I had a bow equipped earlier this year, now it's apparently meta

[ancient sage]

making a change to guns to make the more frustrating and different in their ballistics would be a guaranteed outrage in the community just like bullet drop, imo realism doesn’t lead to fun in a lot of cases

[uneven cargo]

drop is okay its nto extreme

[quiet hinge]

it's been meta since the 1896 patch

[opal dawn]

I mean... If everyone was a beasty headclicker even in 6* I'd argue you'd see more Cent HV

[untold stag]

What i really wish was a thing is button remapping

[versed pine]

we did for awhile

[untold stag]

On ps5

[mild flower]

would be worse than bullet drop for sure

[versed pine]

Centennial shorty getting full HV ammo was king

Loved it

[mild flower]

bow has been busted for a long time

maybe they unreadied when you had it out of disrespect for it lol

[versed pine]

yeah but people were using xbow with steelbolts and other things

[uneven cargo]

more consistent 1 shots and more range than shotguns

[quiet hinge]

why are you trying to divine what randoms think when they unready?

[uneven cargo]

i love shotbolt tho

[versed pine]

Because playing 100s of hours lets you see the pattern

[mild flower]

why are you asking why we are?

[quiet hinge]

im asking shinki clearly, because they're assuming why they unreadied

[versed pine]

unreadying is very common when teammates have dumb loadouts in 6*, it's a tell

[quiet hinge]

earlier this year was blademancer

[uneven cargo]

id rather solo than rando queue

[quiet hinge]

was that when this was?

[opal dawn]

Or sniper I've heard

[uneven cargo]

SHOULD BE PERMENANT PERK

BRING BACK

[quiet hinge]

if it does zero damage sure

[uneven cargo]

it did

last itteration

[versed pine]

defeated the point of the ammo left behind

[quiet hinge]

because blademancer/berserker was stupid

[ancient sage]

shot bolt is sooo fun

[uneven cargo]

perks defeat the point of things all the time? this is a weird cope

[versed pine]

It's too free of an upgrade

ammo management is a part of hunt

[quiet hinge]

as if ammo economy exists in hunt really

[uneven cargo]

but necro isnt

LOL

[versed pine]

blademancer removed it

[uneven cargo]

or fanning

this cope isnt working

[quiet hinge]

why are we pretending everyone doesnt run ammo boxes?

[versed pine]

You didnt need to run ammo box with blademancer

[ancient sage]

blademancer 6 points, blade seer should let you see melees in people’s hands and be more points. It’d be cool

[quiet hinge]

i mean sure if you are only bringing a bow or crossbow lol

[versed pine]

double bow or bust

[left orbit]

bro i rush into compound with assassin, reduce to paste a hunter with hammer, and guess what the assassin that was busy with another hunter targets me right after -.-

i wasn’t even the closest target

[quiet hinge]

lol that's probably why people unreadied right there

[versed pine]

😂

No, I was usually centennial+bow

[quiet hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-rick-dalton-point-finger-pointing-hand-right-there-gif-20349799

[versed pine]

Cent or even springfield HV+bow is my fav combo

[mild flower]

why?

bow/crossbows are already good enough

all blademancer does it make them more easily spammable

[versed pine]

Just bring back frag arrows, I dont get why they were made scarce, no one used them except me

[uneven cargo]

u can say the same thing for the sparks and matini perk fast fingers

[mild flower]

yeah, i dont like fast fingers personally. not the way to buff single shots. just making them more like a mosin.

[uneven cargo]

i dont use it for sparks, martini tho

[mild flower]

although, they're not already as good as bow and crossbow

[light sky]

They still mid with fast finger

[uneven cargo]

but tini is bad cus bullet velocity which is why i dont run it

[mild flower]

this

[uneven cargo]

calling sparks mid is wild lol

[versed pine]

I hate fast fingers because the guy acts too slow when putting the bullets into his fingers and it infuriates me

[uneven cargo]

yes

[mild flower]

compared to meta options, yeah it is

[uneven cargo]

its so bad and ugly to look at

[light sky]

Mid in the sense that the trait doesn't do a great thing for the weapons

[uneven cargo]

i HATE how slow it is

[light sky]

Just take any long ammo besides them that's it

[versed pine]

I dont care that the actual gameplay reload is slow, but the animation makes it look like you are bumblefucking around with the ammo

[mild flower]

tini has bad bullet velocity and that's [partially] why i run it I'm used to leading

and i just find it more satisfying to land shots like that

[mild flower]

ikr

[versed pine]

my stupid fast fingers take: let you put the bullets in your hand much faster but if you get shot you drop the ammo, ez

I would be so mad 😂

[trail spade]

I like fast fingers because it has historical backup and it makes sense

It kinda makes MH ironside pointless tho

[tall canopy]

post malone trait

[versed pine]

Ironside is dumb because irl it works way way faster

But for "balance" it also bumblefucks around

[hoary garden]

Anyone have issues with the server ?

i have a error 0x30001 what was that ?

[versed pine]

They also "balance" it by making it obscure your view but irl it doesn't do that really

[foggy basalt]

am i crazy or did fast fingers get buffed and the rifle bash animation was changed?

[tall canopy]

balance > realism

[foggy basalt]

cycle times feel noticeably faster

[versed pine]

But instead of just balancing the ironside via reserve ammo or making it more expensive, they balance by making it look frustrating slow. But mosin is fine guys, we can balance that gun this way only.

[trail spade]

If ironside was faster it would be broken

[tall canopy]

ammo and price is not really a balancing factor

[versed pine]

I know, but it seems fine for the mosin

[trail spade]

Ammo works for stuff like Nitro but even then the gun sucks to use and got gutted so..

You lads remember flash bombs ? Yeah. G u t t e d

[versed pine]

the flash bombs being double nerfed in the same update was the most insane thing

[worn oak]

Nitro does not suck. Like everything else it is situational.

[tall canopy]

they just should make flash bombs lootable

[light sky]

You can use flash bombs just fine with surefoot

[trail spade]

Nitro does suck. Its outclassed by everything and has lost its 1 thing, the insane pen.

Sure with devil card it can be good but meh

[versed pine]

I rather just kill someone with surefoot

[mild flower]

Price does nothing for balance, and buffing its firerate but reducing its reserve ammo not only would be another case of mosinification but also reserve ammo has little effect on balance as long as ammo crate is in its current state

[versed pine]

So we keep it pointless

that's a better state

[atomic coral]

What is wrong with your matchmaking Crytek?!

[tall canopy]

itsa the cheapest fast firing long ammo gun, it has its spot

[uneven cargo]

du didnt even meet him

[south shore]

Jesse three star confirmed

I always knew

[mild flower]

It's not pointless, it's balanced. The issue is with stuff like mosin being overpowered. Not Ironside being underpowered.

So yes, for the Ironside individually, I think it's a better state.

[tidal haven]

I'm trying for 1 star

[light sky]

It's a solo Player, why are we acting like the underdog modifier is new

[atomic coral]

It was still a bunch of 5 and 6 star solos against us and another 3 star trio

[south shore]

I believe in you

[versed pine]

because the modifier is far too weak

[uneven cargo]

3 is better than 1

[jovial knoll]

my very last level 50 hunter

[light sky]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-wtf-gif-18188575

[trail spade]

Wdym far too weak ?

[jovial knoll]

went to 60
then back down to 0
and then i just have to play my beloved Teresia and I can be free and prestige

[versed pine]

Solos should be losing in a team game, or just give solos their own game mode, ez

[fathom shale]

There's also the win/loss streak factor at play these days

[worn oak]

Prestige when? 👿

[trail spade]

6 star solo should destroy 3 stars teams

[fathom shale]

Likely what is causing the match MMR to be at 3 star even with them being a 6 star

[jovial knoll]

there

[mild flower]

What do you lose on prestige again

Nowadays

[tall canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-everything-avengers-gif-14066494

[uneven cargo]

nothing

[versed pine]

Money, HR unlocks

inventory

[uneven cargo]

prestige is so easy now

u can mosin dolch lvl 1

LOL

[mild flower]

But they made a lot of stuff level 1 no?

[versed pine]

yeah, it's only suffering if you like traits

[tall canopy]

all base weapons

[mild flower]

Does it still lock traits?

[trail spade]

Prestige is still pointless past lv20 or smth

[mild flower]

Damn

[trail spade]

Yea

[uneven cargo]

lol

[versed pine]

the arbitrary trait unlocking order is aggravating

[atomic coral]

SO MUCH, Haymaker at level 1, no more unlocking it through the Lemat

[versed pine]

I miss unlocking stuff through guns

[trail spade]

Why cant they make it a random skin on every prestige level that now offers hunt dollars ?

[light sky]

Prestige is a field trip now

[worn oak]

Very true.
I remember countless of rounds with 4 small Vit shots and asking my random teammates to punch me in the face. What an era to live... (Not really)

[versed pine]

made me use more weapons

[trail spade]

Or at least BB ?

[mild flower]

Aren't Winfields also seperate guns now

[trail spade]

Yep

[tall canopy]

u still have the choice to play those weapons

[versed pine]

Some dont cross my mind

like they dont even exist

[trail spade]

I just focus on some guns per prestige. Rn imma do vetterli

[versed pine]

I use the randomizer a lot

[trail spade]

I really hope they rework the prestige levels

[light sky]

Doubt they will change more of it anytime soon

[fathom shale]

They already did and it's like 10x more accessible and rewarding than it used to be

[trail spade]

But most of the rewards are still shit

[fathom shale]

That is entirely subjective

You get free skins, that's about as much as it should give

[light sky]

More than the rewards, I just wanted something to achieve

[versed pine]

The worst part of prestiging is not explaining how it worked and what was worth choosing, so a lot of people got screwed at lower prestige levels

[light sky]

But the P 100 stuff are nice

[fathom shale]

It's not supposed to be some meta progression and rather a choice people can make

[light sky]

And the freebies

[uneven cargo]

hes right

[tall canopy]

u also unlock wayy more stuff than before with the current system

[uneven cargo]

oh boy hunt dollars for hours of my time :D

:D

[light sky]

Just don't play then

[uneven cargo]

fk u

[trail spade]

Bro you have a lot of gaps for no reason, they could have done a random skin at every level where you get money

[uneven cargo]

says the fk u guy

[versed pine]

yeah, with no interest in the P100 skins because they look awful to me, I've stopped

[light sky]

That's literally what you get for playing

Hunt Dollars

[uneven cargo]

i ment for Prestige reward.

[light sky]

It's the same

[wicked yacht]

Prestige Worldwide?

[light sky]

If you prestige, you play the game

[trail spade]

If you dont prestige you also play the game

[light sky]

If you play the game, you get hunt dollars

[uneven cargo]

okay reductionist ass mf

shush

[light sky]

Lol

[versed pine]

I do wish they would have made even some boring slightly re-colored base skins for the guns, just changing tint and contrast, something to fill up the prestige pool

[uneven cargo]

aREAL

or give us more homeless looking black dudes like the lvl 60 reward

hes literally just a bum

LOL

[fathom shale]

Prestiging to P100 gives you 17 prestige exclusive skins, 11 random BB skins and 200 BBs, something which can take someone only like couple months to do

[uneven cargo]

2 dollars of bbs

WOW

thanks for my time right

:)

[light sky]

You get 800BBs

[uneven cargo]

even still

[trail spade]

800BBs wow truly amazing

[light sky]

Just don't prestige

[trail spade]

Nah

Prestige till lv 20

[versed pine]

Still sad we lost BB for matches though

[light sky]

It's that simple

[versed pine]

Game felt way more rewarding then

[uneven cargo]

tru

[versed pine]

Knowing if I won X matches I could get the next skin I really wanted was a rush

[uneven cargo]

i do love the 50 bb skins tho

[light sky]

They can't be giving free money forever, they were far too generous ngl

[fathom shale]

Considering how you are focusing on the BBs alone and not the total value of random BB skins included I see there's no point in arguing about this further 😄 You want more free shit, I get that, but please have some sense

[versed pine]

I agree it was too much but they went the opposite

[light sky]

Prob the first time I saw a live service game doing that for so long.

[trail spade]

The total value of random skins is completly random on what you get.

[uneven cargo]

whats the value of the p60 skin, homeless black dude, what 1 dollar?

[versed pine]

Helldivers 2?

[uneven cargo]

the p 100 skin is valid tho

[trail spade]

They could have given you 10 BBs instead of hunt dollars. Way better deal

[uneven cargo]

i like him