hunt-general

[mild flower]

i agree but usually when snipers do that run away and extract thing it is far from a mutual agreement with teammates

usually dont even consult

[teal narwhal]

yeah that's another issue

that's why I play either solo, or with selected teammates :)

no randoms or people I just don't like to play with

[mortal cove]

Too bad it's based on stolen IP and data scraped from the internet lol

I have 0 respect for anything AI generated lol

[teal narwhal]

same, AI slop must die

internet is polluted enough

[spring ibex]

hello, im new in this server, i need to report a guy using cheating (me and my friend are died from a marathon with spitzers from 184metres)

[teal narwhal]

!report

[graceful hedge]

If you would like to report a player, you can do so on the Team Details tab in your Last Mission section on the home page. Select the player -> Open Profile -> Report. It is also accessible in the Last Match tab at any time. If you have additional proof you would like to provide, you can find out how to reach out to official support here: #customer-support

**Please note that you can still report people even if you don't have their SteamID or cannot open their profile by providing your own SteamID, time of the incident with a time zone and region on the Hunt Showdown website (link is in the in the Customer Support channel). **

**Hiding statistics/profiles does not prevent reporting. **

[mortal cove]

The guns in that "trailer" look funny though

It's the kind of nightmare shit that that british gun museum guy would get a heart attack from

[spring ibex]

ty

[mild flower]

tf is this

is that somehow meant to be a meathead

[teal narwhal]

random slop :)

[mortal cove]

Supposed to be a Meathead

[kindred spoke]

Bro what js going on with the trash servers today

[fleet adder]

I unno

[outer iron]

LOL you got people crying over this

[brazen vapor]

They massacred it imo 😭

[fleet adder]

It always felt pretty mid to me

[whole mist]

mfw a concept art movie video made with ai has has ai in it 😡

[mild flower]

creator didnt even give a disclaimer that it was ai

for all we know they were trying to pass it off as original

[copper pawn]

who wants new hunt gif?

[mild flower]

also didnt correct any comments thinking it was original but still hearted them

[whole mist]

The channel had Ai in the name 🤣

[mild flower]

yea people dont read channel names

[whole mist]

[outer iron]

Then they're not going to read a disclaimer either.

[whole mist]

No way people thought somebody made a bunch of practical movie effects of hunt showdown……

[fathom shale]

Ew AI slop

[whole mist]

just supposed to help visualize what a game might look like if it was made as a movie during a particular decade. I think you guys are looking too deep into it

[teal narwhal]

there is a difference between crying, and calling a crock of shit to be a crock of shit :)

[fathom shale]

It's a channel dedicated to AI slop that has over 100k subs and is probably earning money with it while all they do is minimal editing and prompt engineering

It's cringe

[teal narwhal]

I guess internet has enough of that everywhere, ya know, content that a 12 years old can pretend "creating"

[rich badge]

ai just got training wheels its bound to be slop right now

[royal cloak]

might eat tacos

[rich badge]

we will see in a decade

[fleet adder]

Definitely eat tacos

[fathom shale]

I don't mean slop as in bad looking, I mean slop as in AI content is inherently slop

[rich badge]

yea

[whole mist]

I just think its cool how it can mimic the 70mm camera effect and special effects of older films

[fathom shale]

I'm fine with AI generated images being used for concept images or images/videos being used for memes (to some degree) but people using them to replace real artists or faking real events or such is the problem

It has it's place but the internet has taken off with it and used it for the worst shit imaginable

[teal narwhal]

yeah, feeds, shorts, etc. are full of it now

it's just... boring

soulless and tasteless

[whole mist]

I really dislike it for art, like paintings and such. Oh, and ai commentary…i find that SUPER annoying

[mild flower]

the channel name doesnt even inherently say anything though. if that's the only disclaimer that it's ai, it's too vague

and before anyone says no one thinks it's real anyway

you'd be surprised 😭

[fathom shale]

Especially older generations are more suspectable to believing that stuff to be real

[whole mist]

Reminded me of when a news outlet thought a RDR2 screenshot was an actual photo

and a GTA high speed chase

[fleet adder]

DCS trips people up constantly lol

[whole mist]

Is that the flight sim game?

[fleet adder]

Yea

[unique trail]

Folks im gonna hop on hunt in a bit

[gusty vigil]

Folks im gonna hop on hunt in a bit as well

[fleet adder]

I don't even know if I'ma be playing hunt tonight ):

[hazy crest]

Folks I’m gonna take my dog on a walk

[mild flower]

Folks

[spark plaza]

amogus

[thorny thicket]

dude i just got mine too

[velvet agate]

#fanart message
@lament mountain where you do post those 3d print files, patreon?

[lament mountain]

I haven’t posted them anywhere so far I don’t know if we are allowed to sell hunt related products

[fathom shale]

You aren't yeah

[lament mountain]

I assumed so that’s why I didn’t post them anywhere

[fathom shale]

Making those doesn't seem that time consuming either way so you should be able to make yours relatively easy as well if you wanted to

[lament mountain]

Yeah I mean it took me a decent amount of time to learn but if you already have experience it doesn’t take long at all

[lament mountain]

also thank you for that info I’ve not been able to find anything on that lol

[royal cloak]

eating tacos

[mild flower]

chat i had a thought

what if getting aimpunched slightly angled your hipfire shots randomly for a moment so shotguns and such could be tactically played against using aimpunch and cqc could overall be more tactical? shotguns would still be king of cqc but it wouldn't be an automatic loss trying to engage one

[tough horizon]

Looks pretty good. I'd buy that for a dollar

https://tenor.com/view/robocop-id-buy-that-for-a-dollar-dollar-commercial-gif-4918928

[lament mountain]

Can’t sell them tho due to Terms of service from what I’ve heard Lol but they don’t take long to learn how to make at all

thank you tho!

[unique trail]

Nice

[hasty wharf]

i mean it'd make more sense for shotguns to have any hipfire inaccuracy at all first, but i guess. i think aimpunch is kind of a bad mechanic currently because your enemy's ping affects whether it actually does anything or not (especially because of how short it is).

[mild flower]

i think its a great mechanic

but the ping affecting is a problem

[lament mountain]

Id rather not do It at all Crytek has their own merchandise and I wanna respect their wishes

[hasty wharf]

idk i think it rewards spam too much, especially when it comes to shotguns/explosives. it's basically irrelevant 99% of the time, and the other 1% its against spam shotguns or explosives

[mild flower]

Disagree, it stops fights from just being trading blows. in a fight with decent ping, usually only one person will hit the other in an exchange because of aim punch.

although it would be nice if it were a little stronger

[hasty wharf]

it should require a higher damage threshold to aimpunch tbh, getting peppered for 10 damage at 50 meters with a terminus levering and not being able to play kinda blows

[mild flower]

I just had a match with light rain where there were enemy hunters but their footsteps weren't audible until like 10m away, at full sprint, and the footstep sounds were coming from the wrong spot. is audio bugged right now or is that just rain?

[mild flower]

i think aim punch should be dependant on the damage dealt.

so a sparks would inflict a lot, a derringer not so much

I find aimpunch the most compelling argument for region lock / stricter ping limit, but for some reason I barely see it argued there

[desert acorn]

Hunt started my noob friend at 3 mmr

He's awful, so it's been rough for him\

A few losses, and he hasn't yet been downgraded.

[scarlet bramble]

no no no, until you are on the experience end of these types of players, you will hate them with a FUCKING passion

pushing is one hting, pushing when you have everything and the other teams are fighting eachother is another

[karmic citrus]

I hate the rain.

Almost as much as I hate assassin

God I fucking hate assassin

[scarlet bramble]

I do not care about your K/D, no one in this game gives a shit about K/D

you get bounty, kill what's in your way, and leave

if you wipe lobby on the way, bonus

but do not seek fights unless it involves what you're hunting

people in LFG wqho whin about their K/D can whine more, you go fight something out of the way that doesn't involve the game, you are fighting it alone

I do not care anymore

[desert acorn]

There a pretty simple way to see which hunters are on which side of the Death Rites campaign?

[fathom shale]

I don't care about my KDA but I still play the game for it's PVP aspect

Not for the bounty

I still get the bounty, but if I end up getting it without facing any players that match is boring as hell

[desert acorn]

Some of us ain't as quick on the draw... we have to Hunt our enemies, and beat em with our minds.

[simple marlin]

Just finished detail cleaning my Vetterli, I think it looks great

[desert acorn]

Doesn't lend itself as well to mass-murderin' a lobby.

[mild flower]

Diiba(is based)

[lofty sinew]

gunning for the bounty without fights is boring AF and I genuinely don't understand why you play the game if thats your priority

[desert acorn]

Then you don't know what it's like to be bad at shooters.s

This game has no specific win condition. Therefore we each make it what works for us.

[royal cloak]

then dont play

joking

[simple solar]

yo anyone else like The Kid?

[lofty sinew]

You can play the game however you like. whatever floats your boat.

but if you don't enjoy shooter PvP you are playing the wrong game

[desert acorn]

I even don't mind rats. They're fun for huntin'

[modern pebble]

the dolch is legit a cheat weapon bro

[desert acorn]

Bornheim works fine for me. Bornheim match is my favorite two slot pistol.

[modern pebble]

actually how unreasonable how easy the dolch is

[fathom shale]

Remember that's after it being nerfed a few times

It used to have less recoil, 20 reserve, medium ammo rather than special

[modern pebble]

yea ik i remember the old one

remember ammo stacking w dolch ?

lool

[fathom shale]

[modern pebble]

but its insane to me how op it still is

although really its a difficult weapon to balance

[lofty sinew]

it still has no place in the game imho

[modern pebble]

twitch drops giving me the worst variant though

[lofty sinew]

those are the best variant, because money

[modern pebble]

wdym

[lofty sinew]

sell

because thats all dolches are good for

[modern pebble]

hell nah

im using mine

taking free wins where i can

solo v trio is hard sometimes

especially when everyone else in the lobby also has a dolch..

[lofty sinew]

the tragedy of the commons

[mild flower]

the best way to balance it is to throw it away

https://tenor.com/b0eH6.gif

^ crytek hopefully someday

[modern pebble]

they sold skin for it

just not possible

[mild flower]

right

then give dolch the exact same stats as bornheim just more expensive :)

[modern pebble]

[lofty sinew]

just give it a 10% chance for users pants to fall down around their ankles every shot

[modern pebble]

i would argue that's worse because i hate shitty and literally useless weapons like the obrez match

[stiff geyser]

Nah match ain't useless

[lofty sinew]

which would make a slide whistle sound

[scarlet bramble]

I mean this nicely cause idk how you play but every person I played with who do this have done the dumbest most aggressive rush tactics I have seen and I am not entertaining it anymore

[modern pebble]

tell me one purpose of it

[stiff geyser]

A cheap long ammo bolt gun that holds more than 3 rounds with a deadeye scope

[royal cloak]

is prestige worth?

[modern pebble]

except the fact it holds more than 3 rounds is worthless

[scarlet bramble]

I have supported people going for fights and each time I come out burnt for it cause they do stuff that make me wish to have never known them

[stiff geyser]

A bit of a niche gun but that's why I use it

[random nimbus]

Krag and lebel exist

And Mako

[lofty sinew]

entirely subjective, so nobody can telll you if you're going to feel like it's "worth"

[modern pebble]

berthier is a straight upgrade in everything including price

[stiff geyser]

Not really you can kill a duo with just body shots

[random nimbus]

The mosin match has literally no purpose

[royal cloak]

ok

[lofty sinew]

many of us would rather take fights and die than not have fights and live

[modern pebble]

real shit

i just wiped a lobby

i couldve left with my money and my bounty but where is the FUN in that

[random nimbus]

Side note: stop buffing the berthier

[lofty sinew]

none of it means anything.. pvp is the game. the rest is just fluff to support the pvp.

[modern pebble]

buff it

make it 50 dolar

[random nimbus]

[modern pebble]

149 damage

17 round magazine

34 reserve

no bullet drop

then maybe it would be relevant smh

tbh i keep calling berthier op but i still dont see anyone using it

[random nimbus]

Give crytek long enough and one of those things might actually happen, given their track record with it

[modern pebble]

krag still used 15 times more

mosin still used 5417 times more

[random nimbus]

Krag feels a lot smoother

And has better skins, imo.

[modern pebble]

i dont have skins

i just kill

[random nimbus]

Although Moonflower is top tier

[lofty sinew]

i hate how berthier feels. it's yuck. but also just don't really use long ammo anyway. so shrug

[random nimbus]

The berthier is kinda slept on but it also feels clunky

[hazy crest]

Yeah but moonflower is gone and we have a chance to get another berth riposte skin

Instead the community has decided we need a ninth mosin skin

[random nimbus]

The 3 round thing isn't an issue at all to me. It just feels like the kick and bolt cycle are so stiff

[royal cloak]

krag is pretty good

[random nimbus]

Meanwhile the krag is smooth as butter and spams downrange

[lofty sinew]

are you actually surprised by this

[random nimbus]

We shouldn't be

Just like us getting another uppercut skin shouldn't be surprising

But we have hope the gun favoritism will not last forever

[spark plaza]

im trying so hard...

[hazy crest]

Kind of yes given how many people say they’re sad they missed moonflower

[hazy crest]

Same I’ve used nothing but Hail Mary and worm bite the past 3 days

[lofty sinew]

thats just discord confirmation bias. the bulk of players do not interact with discord or subreddits.. at all. they just play the game

[hazy crest]

then I can blame crytek for the bullshit skin selections on each team

Put a bp hunter on only one of the teams that’s balanced

[lofty sinew]

i mean they always seem to be be designed to cause one side to win just based on how popular the skins are

[lofty sinew]

why do we have this hope? I mean. I can understand having it, while maybe not understanding where that hope comes from..

[wraith cedar]

very specific question
is there any asian people here playing on na servers
because i am having ping spikes and packetloss every other minute

[lofty sinew]

USE players are moaning about ping spikes and packet loss constantly anyway so i wouldn't imagine it would be better playing from another region

[random nimbus]

I'm very stubborn...

I WANT to believe even though I know better.

[patent tusk]

My biggest regret is taking a break from hunt before getting moonflower for the berth😭

Traitor’s moon had some dope ass skins

[mild flower]

its not just skins either

[random nimbus]

I missed the slate skin because I got burnt out and just never finished it

[mild flower]

balancing too

[wraith cedar]

its only happened these pass few days
usually its very stable

[random nimbus]

I just disagree with their general balancing philosophy at this point

[wraith cedar]

have they said anything

[hazy crest]

traitors moon was right before this became my main game. I started seriously playing at the tail end of the event and I’m so sad I missed out on those skins

[patent tusk]

I took a break bc I had no one to play with and I didn’t want to solo or rando queue

I was off and on for a whileeee

Was here for serpent, took a break, came back for… one of the tides, took a break, came back for some of Devil’s moon, break, came back early 1896, and then break again, and finally came back for good, like a month or two, maybe-ish, before Postie, and been here since

[hazy crest]

The only time I took a major break was 1896. All the bugs and rendering issues were too much

[patent tusk]

Understandable

[random nimbus]

The UI of 2.0 was legit garbage too

Yet somehow there were people defending it.

[outer iron]

Does the terminus not hold to lever? You have to spam click? Seems to have happened that way for me.

[spark plaza]

commit tax fraud

[hazy crest]

It’s full auto

Just hold down lmb

Or rt if you’re controller

[spark plaza]

I'm playing nothing but Lilith, i just can't kill enough

[hazy crest]

I’m killing people but I see 2 or 3 hanged men every game so I’m never gonna outpace that

[lofty sinew]

I keep forgetting this event is even a thing so i'm not even running relevant skins

[spark plaza]

I wish they would have an in game event tab for this, like the did for the scrap beak event

that was peak

[unique trail]

All weekend I dont think I ever found boss target, killed boss, banish, and extract

Of course thats one of my weekly challenges to do it 3x

[lofty sinew]

sometimes it do be like that

though i mean, on low pop regions you can get that done very easily just playing during the week

if it's a 2 boss map it's about a 50/50 you'll get nobody contesting at all

[unique trail]

Is game 45 min limit

[lofty sinew]

yes

[unique trail]

43:30 left and team already banishing

I cant anymore with this

[lofty sinew]

it's not hard to kill bosses quickly, and someone obviously spawned at the lair compound

typically you get to be that team sometimes..

[lilac jacinth]

just ran into two randoms who were greifing and killed me twice

[lofty sinew]

report em and avoid em in future

[gilded tusk]

This game wont stop fucking lagging goddammit it

[rare prairie]

where does one go for techsupport?

[lofty sinew]

you can try asking in here

no garauntee anyone will be able to help though

[rare prairie]

Alright

Tldr, something about this game makes it sound like theres bees in my headset

[royal cloak]

mic keeps cutting out in game

[rare prairie]

Makes the game unplayable because I can't hear anything over it

[lofty sinew]

well thatt is clearly not right. what headset, does it use any third party software

[rare prairie]

logitech pro x headset

[rare prairie]

it might go through the ghub on my pc but its only a hunt issue

I've updated my drivers, reinstalled hunt

its not a headphone issues because it comes through in recording

and turning off audio in hunt gets rid of the buzzing

[lofty sinew]

do you have any other audio output you can test?

[rare prairie]

it didn't actually go through anything else when I changed it in game

[lofty sinew]

does the headset connect via usb or audio jack?

[rare prairie]

usb

unplugging it still doesn't make it go through anything else

[lofty sinew]

i mean you would need something plugged into your onboard presumably realtek based audio for that to happen i imagine

[rare prairie]

okay

[hazy crest]

Now that is some bullshit

[rare prairie]

found an old pair of headphones that go through audiojack

those work

[hazy crest]

I’m sorry for your loss

[rare prairie]

for some reason

[lofty sinew]

right so it's likely a driver issue, or some kind of ghub-related audio setting issue

[rare prairie]

Possibly

I'll look around some more

thanks for your help

[lofty sinew]

no worries

[wise geyser]

Hey everyone 👋
Is anyone else still having the issue where the game closes right after entering a match?
I’m still getting the Easy Anti-Cheat error (pics attached). I saw some people saying it got fixed or that using a VPN helped, but for me it’s still happening.
Anyone knows if they’re working on a fix or if there’s any current workaround?

Sorry for posting this here, but I really need someone to help me get a reply from a moderator or someone.

[supple canyon]

barely any loss from a normal mosin for half the price. You're making up reasons to be angry rn

[hazy crest]

I mean it’s worse or the same in literally every stat

Give me another weapon that takes the same amount of slots and is a straight downgrade

[steel pulsar]

No he has a point that hunt shouldn't balance PURELY off of price.

[lofty sinew]

not seeing any attached images?

[modern pebble]

lmao barely any loss ?

[wise geyser]

Sorry, I'll show you the attached images now.

(Does anyone speak Spanish around here?)

[lofty sinew]

probably, but it is an officially english only discord iirc

[wise geyser]

that you can help me with the subject

[supple canyon]

yeah that's what I said isn't it? statistically proven just by the fancy little compare tool if you'd pull the stick out of that place the sun don't shine for a moment

why are mosin fanboys so insufferable

[lofty sinew]

this error seems to be a bit generic. a google suggests a couple of potential fixes which involve deleting an EAC folder, but other people have suggested a router reboot fixed it for them.. it's hard to say just based on the error tbh

it kind of looks like for whatever reasons you are having significant issues with your link to the server(s) but it's hard to say why

[supple canyon]

@modern pebble before you spout more nonsense I went ahead and did it for you. Would you look at that, still a 1 shot torso against hunters missing a chunk, with the only major loss being the 30m of drop range which doesn't matter 9/10 fights

[wise geyser]

Actually, from what I found out about this error, it is that after the EAC or AWS servers went down, this error started to happen to a small percentage of people. I was chosen by lot, it seems. And they said it was a problem that was going to be fixed at some point, but without having an estimated date. The thing is, I don't know if there is any news or not.

Thank you in advance for responding! 🤗

[modern pebble]

nice u manage to miss the point and be rude

there already was a cheap bolt action that was super good and filled that role

the mosin match fills nothing

[wise geyser]

And I'll add that I've tried many ways to fix it... but no way... the only way I read somewhere that might work is to change the VPN, but I don't know if it's too much of a hassle to do so...

[lofty sinew]

I would try just not using a VPN at alll

but i would also try verifying game files in steam

[icy elbow]

who’s up hunting their showdown

[wise geyser]

why is it bad?

[lofty sinew]

when troubleshooting, generally a good approach is eliminating one thing at a time that could be potentially causing issues.

[wise geyser]

Haha, I've tried that more than 10 times... and it still hasn't fixed the error. 🫠

[lofty sinew]

fair. I would try not using the VPN just to test.

[wise geyser]

mm I wish I knew it was like that, I'd delete it xD

[wise geyser]

Okay, I'll take that into account, thanks 👌

Well... I'll have to wait for a patch or for someone who's up to date on this to help me... in the meantime, I'll hold back on the desire to play Hunt... 😢

thanks anyway!

[lofty sinew]

no luck trying without vpn? same error?

fwiw the error looks like it happens due to intermittent connection problems.. do you use wifi? are you using a wireless internet link?

[wise geyser]

nop

[lofty sinew]

hard to guess then. I would assume some degree of packet loss or failed dns resolution is involved but can't really guess why that would be happening

[wise geyser]

Wired connection, stable and functional. Any other game works fine, except games that use EAC (Easy Anti-Cheat)... those games don't work for me.

[lofty sinew]

maybe if you run a third party firewall i would consider disabling it temporarily

again just to test

[wise geyser]

I think I think, given what happened with the Amazon servers that went down last week, that it's related to the Anticheat EAC... but I don't know why they can't fix it... and why only a few people got this error...

[lofty sinew]

the AWS issues are resolved at this point surely, large cascade failures like that tend to be a priority for immediate fixing

[wise geyser]

I didn't know how to do it... and since I'm not good at that kind of thing, I'm afraid of messing up or damaging something on the PC 😅

[hybrid whale]

Yo, if I pop multiple of the empress in a match, will I keep getting new burn traits?

Or whatever it’s called it’s not burn but sacred traits

[lofty sinew]

scarce traits. and no idea. you would need to test

[wise geyser]

So... why do I still get the error? 😢

[potent arrow]

brother what is in the water that makes soul survivor so miserable swear ive gotten to fire an average of one bullet per game before just getting banished to the shadow realm. like last game i never even saw the bounty holder and he decided it was time to wall bang me( he hit me) so I switched postitions and he just perfectly followed it up with a second wall bang I never saw him he never saw me and he only fired those two bullets

[lofty sinew]

probably because it is not related to the recent AWS issues 🙂 I would be checking third party software and various things if i was troubleshooting this myself, but obviously i cannot really help with anything like that directly

[wise geyser]

Yes, I can understand, and I appreciate you trying to help me! If I could talk to someone from the game or technical support, that would be great. The problem is that technical support for complaints doesn't even work on the website...🫠

[lofty sinew]

depending on the area it's not hard to guess where someone will be for wallbangs. just a map / compound knowledge thing a lot of the time, along with an occasional lucky guess. I had a team accusing me of cheating last night due to hitting a few consecutive wallbangs but like.. it was super obvious where they would be you know.

[lofty sinew]

not many games will provide direct technical support unless it is obvious an issue specific to their game. You seem to have a general EAC problem no?

[potent arrow]

im not accusing him of cheating im just tired of getting killed in the dumbest ways every single soul survivor game like you dont get to play its just run for ten minuted and get one shot simulator

[wise geyser]

layers, I'll go back for the third time to reinstall the game to see if something changed now... I don't know... I'm tired and I spent a lot of money to play this game... and not being able to play it... kills me... especially if this doesn't have a solution... 😢

[lofty sinew]

well i wouldn't disagree. in my region at least soul survivor is a waste of time if you want meaningful fights.

[lofty sinew]

I would be inclined to try to get someone who knows how to troubleshoot computers to have a look at your machine myself, best of luck anyway

[wise geyser]

I guess so... I couldn't tell you haha I think so..

[potent arrow]

the only reason im playing it is cause the soul survivor rifts are the last achievment i have to get but its miserable

[lofty sinew]

oh fair. i completed that one years ago, and i guess the mode was a bit more popular still back then, but still. I wasn't doing it specifically for the achieve, but i have basically no desire to load the mode anymore anyway..

[potent arrow]

but it has been literal days since i had an actual fun game

[wise geyser]

Thanks again! Thank you very, very much! I hope so... 🤗

[lofty sinew]

it was still a lot of "woo i found the wellspring they are concertinad in a basement holding a corner angle with a shotgun" stuff

[potent arrow]

I had a run a few days ago that was five games in a row where i just instantly died the moment someone was on my screen only ended by a guy who killed me with double bees

which technically wasnt instant

[turbid dock]

Does it show up on recordings?

[lofty sinew]

i mean a lot of fights in hunt go that way regardless of the mode eh

they said it did yeah

[turbid dock]

ah

didn't see that, mb

[lofty sinew]

i asked them to test onboard audio, it was fine

[potent arrow]

yeah I feel like soul survivor just forces it a lot more

[lofty sinew]

so it's some issue with the driver or some ghub audio setting

[potent arrow]

I assume its only hunt?

[rare prairie]

yeah

[lofty sinew]

it is just hunt, they mentioned that too

[rare prairie]

yes

[turbid dock]

it shows up on recordings, but only when using that specific headphone, that's pretty absurd hah

just to be sure, have you tried recording with the other headphones?

or watching the recording with the other headphones?

[rare prairie]

I fucked around a bit and its to do with my headphone jack to usb adapter which I use due to my setup

[lofty sinew]

some kind of mismatch between audio output frequency set in ghub vs windows or something would be my guess

oh, well there you go

[rare prairie]

so I need to get a replacement for that before I can play hunt which is wonderful

[turbid dock]

Does it still happen if you turn cryspatial off? Could be some weird interaction with HRTF-processed audio, potentially? Not sure, also worth testing

[potent arrow]

just play without sound its not that important

[lofty sinew]

i'd just generally avoid USB based headsets myself. not reaally any benefit to them

[potent arrow]

youll be fine

[rare prairie]

I need it because my pc doesn't have a single input/output headphone jack

[potent arrow]

I like em

ive had better luck with the sound quality then the cheap aux ports

[lofty sinew]

you can get adapters that will split a combined L/R/Mic output jack to 2 seperate jacks

and vice versa

[turbid dock]

I'm just stumped at why it would only affect hunt's audio. Does it happen in the menus or only in-game?

[rare prairie]

yeah I just haven't yet because this has worked so far

[rare prairie]

everywhere in hunt that has audio

[icy elbow]

i am having really really bad footstep audio chat

just no audio until someone is right there

[potent arrow]

try checking if applications can take exclusive control of the device that can cause some weird issues

[lofty sinew]

if something sounds bad from a standard onboard realtek audio output on a PC it's generally the thing you're plugging into it's fault (and / or you are trying to drive headphones that need more power than a standard jack can give)

[potent arrow]

thats kinda what im saying

kinda

basically

[turbid dock]

motherboard sound cards are hit or miss

some are pretty damn good

[potent arrow]

point being usb has been better for me

[lofty sinew]

i thought you were implying the onboard audio was the problem. it's really not (generally speaking)

[rare prairie]

how would I do that?

[potent arrow]

are you on windows 11 or 10 or sumn else\

[turbid dock]

windows sound control panel, the device properties of your output device

[rare prairie]

win10

[potent arrow]

if on 10

[potent arrow]

uncheck both

I doubt its your issue but it can cause some weird issues in general

[turbid dock]

audio device configuration and routing in windows gives me anxiety, i've been doing so much of it recently

[rare prairie]

what do they even do?

[potent arrow]

they made it worse in 10 and probably worse worse in 11

[peak cave]

Holy shit look who it is

[potent arrow]

it lets applications take control of the ausio device which can exclude other programs being able to utilize it properly

[rare prairie]

a cutie?

[peak cave]

Ignore him he's weird

[rare prairie]

interesting

[turbid dock]

lets applications control sample rate and stuff. I doubt it's being engaged when playing hunt, but you never know when shit like this could be causing issues in windows

[turbid dock]

eh, its the same, the UI for it just looks nicer in some places lol

thats win 11 summarized actually

[potent arrow]

tbh I dont know what the upsides are because i always turn it off cause its caused problems for me in the past especially if you also running something like discord or another chat program as well as a game thats trying to take control of it

[potent arrow]

ima see how many viruses I can collect by running a non updated version of win10

[turbid dock]

you generally only use exclusive mode for like, music listening if you have an external DAC or something

[potent arrow]

they are my pokemon

[rare prairie]

I don't usually have audio issues so I've never gone looking

[turbid dock]

rn i'm using exclusive mode let a program route the audio from a 7.1 capable virtual audio cable into my 2-channel realtek output (kill me)

[lofty sinew]

i had to stop using my external dac because of dumb usb issues :\

[potent arrow]

my headphones have a usb splitter volume control fx thingy that really confused obs for awhile

[lofty sinew]

microsoft is garbage tier and weirdly enough their software is also. their priority hasn't been improving the OS or customer experience in forever

[turbid dock]

they're stuck in the position where trying to improve their OS risks killing some vitally important 500 year old software

[lofty sinew]

currently their priority is shoehorning AI crap in as quickly aspossible while also doing their best to gaslight users into accidentally singing up to cloud services they don't need and actively make their machines worse

[turbid dock]

i just want a non-hacky visual audio patch bay where i can just route visual cables between input devices, programs, and output devices, is that so much to ask for mr. gates ?? 😔

[lofty sinew]

yes, the windows audio stack is going to be dogwater forever. sorry

[turbid dock]

sadge

linux has JACK, windows also gets JACK but some hacky version of it that just sits on top of the windows audio stack and is forced to use it

[woven atlas]

bring back explosive crossbow

holy

[potent arrow]

brother man wants control of his pc lmao

[turbid dock]

apparently asking for too much

[velvet agate]

Guys

The last rites event, does the kill count toward your teammate?

[potent arrow]

for the weekly quests? yes

[velvet agate]

No, like I said, LAST RITES

[potent arrow]

ngl i did not know what that was and I was tryna figure it out

[velvet agate]

My bad

[turbid dock]

you mean if your friend uses a skin, whether or not your kills go towards the progress?

[velvet agate]

I mean, Death Rites

https://www.huntshowdown.com/community/death-rites

[lofty sinew]

what are you gonna do, go into lobbies to TK 20,000 times to try and swing the win?

[atomic coral]

NOTE: If your motherboard chipset requires certain software to interface with the sound chip properly, your sound will be messed up or not even work if you disable the first exclusive control checkbox.
My chipset requires Sonic Studio 3, for example, or my mic is quiet and noisy since the noise reduction is in that software instead of in Realtek control panel.
Disabling that checkbox bypasses the software.

[velvet agate]

Duh :))))))))

I just quited my job to play hunt showdown full times

[potent arrow]

I was gonna say getta job but you seem to have sorted that out

[lofty sinew]

i mean, that sounds like a ferociously boring way to spend your time regardless. but uhm, sure, do it for the memes

[potent arrow]

so close yet so far

[lofty sinew]

i'm kinda surprised i got through the 250 tbh

[potent arrow]

Also I really hope in the next few years more anticheats start supporting linux cause thats one of the last things keeping me on windows as well as the one off programs that are hit or miss

[potent arrow]

its not that many if your just playing it

[lofty sinew]

yeah i will drop windows like the hot sack of shit it is the moment gaming can be done on linux without issue

[potent arrow]

but I have been having an awful time and I cant bring frens along to make it better (this is the most solo ive played)

[potent arrow]

and it is getting there

oh and nvidia drivers idk if they are still hit or miss or if theyve gotten better last i heard it was mostly a community/opensource one

[lofty sinew]

yeah. it just needs to hit a critical point where enough people are doing it that it becomes the norm to support it for all games

[potent arrow]

yarm

[lofty sinew]

drivers are still an issue with nvidia. same deal really. they aren't going to bother with good support until enough dollar signs start flashing around it

[potent arrow]

currently I dont think they will care regardless until the ai money starts drying up

[lofty sinew]

i mean clearly they barely care about the PC gaming market currently

[scarlet plinth]

What really happened to Louisiana

[potent arrow]

I did (it was bad)

[lofty sinew]

AI bust is on the way allegedly

[potent arrow]

it seems that way although I suspect it could keep holding on for longer then one might expect

and it will probably take everything else with it

[turbid dock]

yeah, compatibility is really the only thing stopping me

[potent arrow]

so get your retirement in like cockroach farms or sumn

[potent arrow]

I keep meaning to try it ive flashed it onto a usb and everything i even have a drive in my pc that was my windows drive thats not even partitioned as anything i just never got around to it

[lofty sinew]

shareholders are optimistic idiots apparently so i don't think it will change until the arse completely falls out of it. i'm obviously not confident enough to start shorting nvidia though

[potent arrow]

ive a feeling one of the ai companies specifically will fallout first or maybe one of the compute companies but I feel like they are less likely to drag everything down with em

in fact I think one did file for bankruptcy recently <- idk I cant find it atm

[midnight ether]

Does the Slate have a wasteful reload?

[turbid dock]

i've heard it likened to the dotcom bubble where people and companies just don't know how to use or monetize the AI tech they've valued so highly, and that after the seemingly inevitable crash we'll start to see a bunch of legitimately useful AI powered tech popping up lol

[potent arrow]

nop

you keep every shell

except the ones you express ship to enemies

[potent arrow]

yeah that sounds about right

although if the crash is bad enough we might just get the greater depression instead

(what a deal)

[lofty sinew]

meh LLMs are fundamentally flawed tech that have some legitimate niche applications. it's not worthless it's just not anything like as useful or transformative as the stockmarket wants to believe it is

[potent arrow]

arguably the larger problem is the less niche applications require down right silly amounts of compute

[midnight ether]

Thank.

[potent arrow]

:)

[turbid dock]

there's more than just LLMs around tho, transformers are useful for quite a bit, and some new transformer architectures have been proposed in papers and such. I think LLMs have just carried the majority of the hype because they were such a large and visible leap

[potent arrow]

although that wont save a bubble unless they can sell it to investors

cause at this point its just a hype machine and if that stops

[turbid dock]

yea this is shit we'll see popping up after the crash

[lofty sinew]

my prediciton - an idiocracy level collapse akin to watering plants with brawndo. Have you seen the shit about people talking about "awakening" their AI chatbots?

[potent arrow]

im very intrigued at how well the wayward realms will utilize their llm

[lofty sinew]

economic collapse, something something, true modern feudalism, and a general population too stupid and confused by AI generattedgarbage to do anything meaningful about it.

[turbid dock]

yeah i'm with you, there's a decent chance we'll see AI doomsday in our lifetimes. Not "AGI with nukes" doosmday, but a slop-fest destroying our lifestyles lmao

[potent arrow]

I mean if AGI is the goal you could argue thats what they are all trying to do

[potent arrow]

my favorite are people appealing to it as an authority on like sudo religious matters

[lofty sinew]

My theory is - Earth is the planet populated by Golgafrinchan ark fleet ship B.

[turbid dock]

its true

[lofty sinew]

and what is happening is exactly what you would expect

[potent arrow]

I know its true cause I aksed chat gpt and it said you were right

[turbid dock]

what Golgafrinch didn't tell the ark crew was that their fleet was an unethical experiment

[lofty sinew]

it's a whole lot of compute being dedicated to the dunning kreuger effect. I'm sure utopia is just around the corner

[turbid dock]

a 100 million lightyear trip in cryosleep just to see what would happen if you populated a planet with impulsive and violent apes

[lofty sinew]

I forget how we got here, but man. I try not to think about it. maybe if humans still exist in 100,000 years we might be marginally less dumb. or just batteries for AI I guess.

[potent arrow]

no but think would not you rather go mine lithium for free instead of like makin art or whatever dumb humans got up to before

[outer iron]

Friend needed a shotgun challenged finish. There's something that just feels... less earned when I kill with shotties.

[turbid dock]

my crackpot theory is that we're just not well adapted to a large, interconnected civilization at all and that any social circle beyond a 300 person tribe leads to a whole bunch of maladaptive behaviors lmao

[lofty sinew]

sttraight forwardly true really. The idea that humans are somehow separate from the animal kingdom in any meaningful way is a joke, and while we are generally reasonable as individuals, in large groups we are stupider than the average slime mold.

[potent arrow]

term levering moment use a single metal pipe like god intended

[turbid dock]

humans are pretty damn smart, but i'm not sure if working at the Thing Factory making Things for the Thing Company is like, what our brains have evolved for

[lofty sinew]

you had to earn the moment by being in the right place at the right time and they had to make the dumb choice of pushing up that close together.

[outer iron]

I wanted to use shotguns for as little as possible so their challenge would be finished.

[potent arrow]

hey I worked hard to culture my slime mold to take my phone calls so I dont have to

[potent arrow]

yeah, I go through fazes where I enjoy them then I have to swear them off for awhile

[lofty sinew]

i like to run both because it sucks to feel like you do not have an appropriate tool to push and keep things moving tbh. i run 2+2 a lot recently

[mild flower]

when did they increase elite ai spawn rate if they did?

by elite i mean immo, hive etc

[lofty sinew]

i don't think anything announcement worthy re" that has happened in a long time

sure do run into immo gangs a lot lately though

[mild flower]

it seems to me that theres way more ai than usual recently and i've seen a lot of others deduce the same thing

maybe it was a sneaky change that they didnt talk about

[potent arrow]

I think there are behind the scenes modifiers that just mean sometimes you get more of them and somtimes you get less (this is entirely speculative)

[turbid dock]

i might have the same experiences

just generally a lot of special enemies

[mild flower]

it's been a consistent thing across the past couple weeks with me and a lot of other players at the same time though

as if they just overall increased it

[lofty sinew]

the whole event though really, not just last couple of weeks

and i guess i mostly associated it with the pathing changes

[turbid dock]

there was also this one time tho, tho it was just a single occurence, when i entered a compound and there were like 10 grunts just around the entrance lmao

[lofty sinew]

maybe they fiddled with spawn rates at the same time but didn't mention it

[mild flower]

could have been with the addition of brute maybe?

[lofty sinew]

maybe. i mean. making significant changes to things but forgetting to mention it is pretty normal crytek things

[mild flower]

or just not mentioning it intentionally 🤔 🧐 potentially 🤔

[lofty sinew]

in some cases the amount is pretty GD opressive

[mild flower]

https://tenor.com/bsFy7.gif

[lofty sinew]

yeah you wonder. nobody in the community was going to cheer for "we decided to boost the spawn rate of all AI by 30%" or something, where they just make the change to see if anyone notices enough to hate it. rather than priming the community to hate it by announcing it

[icy elbow]

wtf is this tool order

blasphemous

[lofty sinew]

yeah thats all wrong. straight to jail for that guy.

[mild flower]

not a single tool in the right place

everyone knows it's melee - medkit - chokes - extra

Or if you have a melee built into a weapon, it's extra - medkit - chokes - extra

i was ready for someone to start a heated argument about how i am wrong

[gleaming dove]

No, you’re 100% correct

[lofty sinew]

nah. you right. that's how it is

[gleaming dove]

Sometimes I swap out the melee for mines if I have a gun with a melee though

[potent arrow]

no you dont change the order with a melee weapon on the gun the loadout aint gonna change itself

[mild flower]

hence the second option 👍

[mild flower]

you mean you bring a melee tool anyways?

fair enough
changing tool is too much effort sometimes

[potent arrow]

yup

[lofty sinew]

a bayonet doesn't replace a spear imho

[potent arrow]

yeah I have three different knifes you wanna make somthin of it

[mild flower]

yea but bow/lance harpoons or something do imo

sometimes i will forego a spear for a bayonet if i'm really keen on bringing kill traps or something that requires 2 tool slots

[lofty sinew]

hmm maybe, i don't run launcher / lance really. spear just too good general purpose ai / boss killer / emergency shotgun

[wet locust]

Donald had too much wine I think

[potent arrow]

someone really has to get him away from the phone

[mild flower]

fr, shocked they havent nerfed it more, although they did sell skins for it so they cant nerf it too hard

[potent arrow]

or pc

[lofty sinew]

bold to assume he's the one doing anything

[potent arrow]

i dont use it out of spite at this point cause I was so annoyed by it when they first added it

also the katana still needs nerfed

[lofty sinew]

eh.. does it though. in a world of everyone shotguns

[potent arrow]

its basically the only melee weapon that is usable

so maybe the other ones need a buff but its so much better then any of the equivelent options

[scarlet plinth]

50 blood bonds and 1 bounty hunt

[mild flower]

what? it's not that good, it's the best dedicated melee weapon for sure, but that doesn't mean it needs a nerf. more that the other melees need a buff if we want balance in the melees category

[mild flower]

imo the other melees need martialist effects or abilities

[potent arrow]

yeah that would help

[lofty sinew]

Melee needs a pocket sand consumable obvs

[mild flower]

also not sure if anyone has explored this concept before, but makeshift melee weapon variants

e.g. a combat axe with something else plastered on it

[potent arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/mack-marvel-agents-of-shield-axe-readytogo-gif-6132780

[bright girder]

it sounds like it could be interesting but like ig im questioning how useful that would be

[potent arrow]

knuckle knife with a secret derringer

speaking of the I miss the pre bullet drop derringer so much it was so silly and hard to use but now its basically impossible to use

[bright girder]

frankly? bomb lance is kind of this concept

big sword with a harpoon launcher on it

[mild flower]

yeah, i want more stuff like bomb lance

[bright girder]

yeahhh it feels useless but i never tried it pre bullet drop actually ><

[potent arrow]

I would love if they added some more tomfoolerous weapons

[potent arrow]

you could at least see what you where shooting at

[bright girder]

at least theres one derringer that's good :3

[potent arrow]

the velocity was already nothing but the bullet drop makes it so you have to holdover at basically any range means you just have to guess cause you cant see what you are shooting at

[bright girder]

idk there feels like theres not a huge thing you could do to "fix" quad derringer i guess now that bullet drop is in the game. guess you could just make the drop less though

[potent arrow]

that would be the big one if you didint want to actually buff it

[bright girder]

it def feels like a bit of a legacy thing

like doesnt really seem to have a place idk xd or a purpose

[mild flower]

just bring ammo economy back as an actual factor to the game and increase its reserve ammo so it matters

[bright girder]

but meh it was probly always a meme tool but even just i cant really think of what its supposed to be for

[mild flower]

game would be better with ammo economy back anyways

[bright girder]

ammo economy? wdym

[mild flower]

making it so you actually have to preserve ammo

[bright girder]

are u talking about ammo boxes giving a variable amount depending on reserve ammo

cause i mean idk the quad derringer only has 12 reserve bullets

i think it actually

[mild flower]

no, just the general game mechanic of having to conserve ammo

[bright girder]

fully restores the thing

[potent arrow]

#buffthederringer

[bright girder]

oh then i dont rly know what you mean

how did the game's mechanics work before where you had to

[mild flower]

back in the day, before the various changes they made to get rid of the factor, you had to carefully conserve your ammo otherwise you would run out or have to go to a resupply point.

[bright girder]

yeah like ig what was different

no ammo boxes ?

[potent arrow]

also just less ammo

[mild flower]

less ammo, no ammo boxes, less ammo box world spawns iirc

[bright girder]

oh how much reserve did the mosin have

or was it just general like

ii know i think dolch at one point had 5 reserve bullets or something

[mild flower]

derringer had more of a place when ammo was more of a factor

[potent arrow]

I miss when a winfield paired with dually chain pistols got you like 60 reserve bullets

idk what I would do with them but it was really silly

[bright girder]

tbf i mean

[bright girder]

you get this basically with just pairing with nagant p instead

[potent arrow]

it use to give you two mags of reserve for sually whcih meant those by themselves would get 32 on their own

[bright girder]

oh no i know

but like being able to get a lot of ammo isnt like dead i guess

its still worse though, 60 nerfed to 48 :p

orr 56..technically if you take frontier but thats chearting

[whole furnace]

if you get thru 48 bullets and need more, then I feel like 60 bullet wouldn't help ya either lool

[mild flower]

it's the opposite. thats the issue

[bright girder]

yeahh xd you still would honestly play the exact same

[potent arrow]

its not about the amount needed its about the amount I wanted

cause like theres not way im getting through more then about 13 of those before I get headshot

[bright girder]

mm tbh though its been worse.. and its been worse like quite a long time ago at this point ie avtomat+two sparks pistols giving you whatever 8 bullets per box

youre talking about like when the game was like in early access i feel like

[potent arrow]

I really just dont play the guns where it ends up mattering unless its like lemat or drilling slugs

I did run through an entire vetterly of ammo where I was getting tags and they kept just not dying somehow

[bright girder]

myeah it be like that sometimes

[potent arrow]

I just dont enjoy alot of the guns like mosin or lebel that much

so I bring a sparks and usually that just kinda has enough ammo

[bright girder]

berthier was my fav long ammo for a while

[potent arrow]

oh yeah same

[bright girder]

but im bracing for nerfs now they kept buffing it for some reason and tbh it rly didn't need

[potent arrow]

if im running long ammo its between that the sparks and the martini

[whole furnace]

Hot take: Having to consider about (and) running out of ammo actually makes Hunt more fun and is overall more healthy for the meta.

[mild flower]

but that required actual loadout adjustment. being able to get infinite ammo while bringing a mosin AND a crown and king is the issue.

[potent arrow]

I remember considering it a lot more before all of their changes and now I just ussually run default ammo

espially high velo they killed that so hard for no reason

[bright girder]

eh i mean mabe but that shit was still super broken and dumb

and i think its a bit of an exaggeration to say "infinite ammo". its 5 extra bullets

[mild flower]

right. so being able to do essentially the same thing while still also running a pocket crown and king is even worse.

[mild flower]

ammo box?

[potent arrow]

also crown and king is so much cooler of a name then auto five (I will die on this hill (no I still wont use it either way))

[bright girder]

yeah?

[whole furnace]

Gonna correct you slightly, that was not really a loadout adjustment, just straight up oppressive and insanely good.
Remember that Avto wasn't as nerfed at that point and got nerfed to the state it is today bc of that loadout lol

[mild flower]

of course it's an exaggeration but it's extremely rare that you'll go through all your ammo with the ammo reserve buffs and ammo box addition

[bright girder]

ok well i just looked it up and mosin never had an ammo capacity adjustment ever

[mild flower]

still a loadout adjustment. you had to adjust your loadout to bring dual sparks pistols which you would pretty much never use

as opposed to something else

[whole furnace]

It is in trios, easy to fit in one box each, that is 15 long ammo per man, 45 long for the whole team.

[bright girder]

and this honestly is even worse

[potent arrow]

the correct answer is to drop the avto keep the dual sparks and actually enjoy the game

heck add a second pair for double the fun

[whole furnace]

Sure, but it was one that had no downside due the power of old Avto. Old Avto had remarkably less recoil.

[bright girder]

mhm true

[potent arrow]

there are some metas im so glad I wasnt in six star for

[mild flower]

sorry i should specify that i just use mosin as an example of a loadout, not specifically referring to it with ammo reserve buffs.

however i do think mosin could use less ammo reserve and especially overall just decrease the availablity of ammo [mainly deployable box]

[bright girder]

but like honestly idk. i wouldn't rly know how to remedy this because i feel like this has been a fundamental thing in the game in one way or another since like the start kinda

theres always been ways to basically offset ammo stuff and if youre going to count premade trios that is even more true

[mild flower]

for starters, nerf deployable box

[whole furnace]

Old deployable ammobox gave the same as a in-world box.
So simple as, just make it provide that, it still gets to double dip for custom ammo + it refills pennyringer and flare pistol.

[mild flower]

yes but these didn't also allow you to bring completely overtuned 2 slot weapons in as well as infinite ammo

[bright girder]

mkay, yeah i didn't know that

[mild flower]

This

[bright girder]

🤷 ig idk

honestly it feels like the game has never been tamer

i feel like when i look back on old updates there was always some broken bs that isn't as good now

[potent arrow]

really im just glad rezbolt meta is over

[bright girder]

be it weird event traits like blazeborne, old avto bs, there being a sniper w mosin spitzer 400m away in every match

[potent arrow]

I will say bullet did help curb the snipers significantly

[gleaming dove]

I feel like the broken bs has just changed flavors. I for one preferred old broken bs over the new stuff. I hate cyclone fmj spammers and people using fire hand crossbow

Can’t convince me those are fun or balanced things to fight against

[potent arrow]

even if it did cost the derringer being even slightly usable\

[bright girder]

🤷 honestly like i can def see where youre coming from but at the same time part of this could easily be rose tinted glasses too. it feels bad because thats what we're dealing with now. mosin sniper spitzer being completely just consequence free safe gameplay wasn't "fun or fair" to fight against either

[potent arrow]

idk I feel like the crown and dolch are still some of the more annoying things to die to and those have been around forever

[bright girder]

to fight that you needed specific loadouts, cyclone appears in gunfights where honestly mosin is still stronger

and medium range where your weapons also have a chance

[mild flower]

You say that last one as if they didn't add a literal silenced sniper 😭

[bright girder]

they did but i mean

idk lol sniper spitzer was like an epidemic

[mild flower]

They didn't really nerf it in any way though did they

The game and playstyles just changed

[bright girder]

I feel like I see maynard silencer like a reasonable amount, more than other snipers but its not like stronger than a lot of stuff

they def nerfed spitzer?

[mild flower]

It's the only sniper I see tbh

What, how?

[bright girder]

bullet drop is a huge nerf to that playstyle. when is the last time youve seen gunfights across like 2 compounds or whatever

there's a reason "playstyles changed" its cause it isn't nearly as good anymore or easy to use

maynard sniper silencer is strong for a much different reason sniper spitzer was

[mild flower]

I don't really agree, seeing as Spitzer is one of the only ammo types that is nearly unaffected by bullet drop.

[bright girder]

playstyles dont change cause people got bored of it or something

[mild flower]

If anything it put Spitzer more ahead of the game than other ammo types

[bright girder]

disagree

[mild flower]

I think buffs to other options were the main reason. Crytek is notorious for blanket buffing other options or blanket nerfing everything rather than directly nerfing the problem

People are more inclined to bring shotguns or spam weapons, also things like regen shot buff encouraged people to play more aggressive

[bright girder]

meh. people still use mosin dolch and its still the strongest loadout. think of all of the 200m+ kills people got before bullet drop. bullet drop for spitzer comes in at 160m and after that it drops harder than other options like maynard. objectively its harder to use it for what people used it for

its true that buffs to other options did happen but i think crytek considers this much more making more options viable which is probably better for the game

[mild flower]

Mosin auto 4/specter shorty is the strongest Loadout right now from what I see. But that's just my experience

[bright girder]

disagree with that to be honest

but it is v strong

i still think dolch p is stronger though

[whole furnace]

Honestly see less dolch nowadays, much better to slot a 2-slot shotgun.
Or running 3-slot clown and 25 fucking bullets Obrez Drum

[bright girder]

obrez drum is crazy yea

[tribal vine]

Does anyone want to blast anabolic steroids with me in the bayou

[bright girder]

i see dolch a reasonable amount

[mild flower]

In this meta, not having a weapon that one shots to the body at close range is just too much of a sacrifice sometimes

When everyone has shotguns, you need a shotgun too to compete in close range

[bright girder]

it can feel like that for sure

[mild flower]

https://tenor.com/view/hunt-showdown-hunt-showdown-meme-hop-on-hop-on-hunt-showdown-gif-2599530350236292577

[mild flower]

Event point steroids

[whole furnace]

Or a bow, fuck the bow

[bright girder]

but mm imo its still just a feeling, its easier to play around a shotgun's range than someone with dolch p

[mild flower]

It would be better if aimpunch worked better.

So you could actually disrupt a shotgun's ohk if you get the initiative

[bright girder]

myea

i mean thing is though ig like

part of why shotguns are good now specifically is that they were like kinda garbage before in a bad way honestly

they deserve to one shot at close range but it used to be way more inconsistent

[mild flower]

You could play around a shotgun's range if they didn't also have a mosin for as soon as you get out of the shotgun's 2 tap range.

Also the effective range of dolch right now is in a weird spot where it's a very tight gap between it being better to shoot with mosin, and it being better to shoot with a shotgun

You can spam it at long range I'll give you that, but I find it's usually better to just go for precise shots with your rifle/mosin at that range

[mild flower]

Yeah I personally think quartermaster is the problem there

But I see a lot of people disagree

[bright girder]

🤷 tbh like

i agree that qm is v strong

but at the same time the reason it was buffed is because it was like a joke before

and like i look at old updates and like

almost everything aside from long ammo was a joke

idk i feel like its better off with way way more shit being viable. sure mosin is still stronger but like youre not shitposting if you pick something else

[whole furnace]

QM didn't get buffed, basically every 2-slot did

[bright girder]

thats what i mean

qm essentially got buffed in the sense that its options are all buffed

[mild flower]

Lack of tradeoffs in loadouts and lack of counterplay and strategic options against certain Loadout archetypes.

Quartermaster removes the tradeoff factor of bringing certain weapons in loadouts and makes people perform perfectly at every range and every situation, so there is less counterplay. Without quartermaster, someone with a shotgun for example could be dealt with strategically by playing around the weaknesses of their Loadout. That can't happen if they have a mosin in their other pocket

Don't mind me copy pasting my own message.

[whole furnace]

Sure but like it ain't like the Winnie vandal or bomblauncher is part of that problem

[bright girder]

🤷 like ok while its true that it does this, that is v much the point of it

[mild flower]

Bomb launcher? I would say it is

Much less extreme though

[bright girder]

like you can for sure say its a problem which is fair if you feel like that but

that is the whole point of quartermaster, to make your hunter more versatile

[mild flower]

I don't think it's a healthy point in that case

[whole furnace]

The harpoon?

[mild flower]

Yea you can also bring steel ball/db and waxed frags

It's not as bad as a shorty though

[whole furnace]

Sure but there is different between "slightly more versatile" and "little to no down side at all".
There is a reason why they nerfed QM from being two 3-slots afterall

[bright girder]

its fair but like ig i dont see how you'd change it other than either removing the whole trait or making all of the medium slot guns useless again like they were which i think isnt a good solution

[whole furnace]

Steel balls sucks vs the meta, they didn't get buffed like shotguns did.

[mild flower]

Experiment with making the trait scarce, giving it a tradeoff for bringing large and medium, and if one of those stick keep it and adjust medium weapons as needed.

I honestly think medium + medium loadouts would be given a chance if qm wasn't so good and easy to get

[bright girder]

🤷 mayb! but its just v hard to draw the line on what slightly might mean. it costs 6 points and a trait slot in a game where there are a lot of good traits so its just a fine line imo

it wouldn't take v much imo to make it so qm is never picked again

[whole furnace]

Then make it cost 3 points and nerf the 2-slots. Price is not what should justify the strength.

[bright girder]

which also is fair if you think it isn't good for the game and would rather that but from a game design perspective i just think crytek probably disagree

theyre definitely trying to make it so everything is good

[whole furnace]

Again, two biggest stats that got affected for 2-slots are:
Shotguns: Extended kill range by 3-5m (+/-)
Rifles: Sway down from 133 to 100.
So like, just nerf shotguns with 1-2m and increase rifle sway with like by 10-15.
That would be a start

[bright girder]

also last thing which like i know im being annoying but, what makes you think they want quartermaster to have a downside? most traits dont have downsides to picking them aside from opportunity cost

unless you mean downside relative to a 3 slot gun

rather than like, downside for picking quartermaster ig

[whole furnace]

Well, even old 2-slots were an upgrade to loadouts, just not to the degree it is rn due to the limitations of the 2-slot weapons.
Think it is fair to look on a trait and see how much it impact the meta and adjust accordingly.

[bright girder]

ok! thats fair :)

[whole furnace]

Again, there are stat lines between old and new 2-slots that could be explored

[frigid ibex]

QM was a meta trait so it was kinda wild 2 slots got buffed

Even 2 slot pistols were buffed (ammo)

[turbid dock]

keep new 2-slots

delete QM

game immediately becomes 10/10

trust me on this one

you don't get mad when you're up against a romero shorty + obrez enemy

[lofty sinew]

because i use hdr, basically no free or reasonably priced video editing software will decode my hunt clips. sigh

[lofty sinew]

what about auto-4 obrez enemy

[turbid dock]

yeah thats getting into dangerous territory

we might need to look at the auto 4

[frigid ibex]

Use windows + g and record games that way

[turbid dock]

but still way better than auto 4 + mosin sniper enemy

[turbid dock]

do you know if you're recording in HDR or not?

[frigid ibex]

Yeah, like giving it a drum and call it auto 20

[lofty sinew]

i mean clearly i am, because all my highlights clips are using 10bit colour

[turbid dock]

okay yeah

and i assume they display correctly on your monitor

[lofty sinew]

so i am laboriously converting them all to h.264 with ffmpeg, but having to do so is kind of a level above the amount of effort i generally cbf with 😐

yeah they work fine, i just can't edit them in anything that isn't excitingly pricey studio level software

[turbid dock]

i'm trying to think of shit i've touched recently, i just set up MadVR to tonemap 4000 nit movies to my 400 nit monitor earlier today, trying to think if any of the software ive used can help

[outer iron]

Decided to swap my conversions to try out scotty swift duallies today. And I felt like I couldn't miss!

[lofty sinew]

pewpew pew pew. nice dualie action, though there are some suspiciously not scottfield lookin pistols in there 😛

[turbid dock]

i think davinci resolve handles hdr formats without issue?

[outer iron]

Yeah at the start I used conversions.

[lofty sinew]

davinci resolve studio does

$505 license

[turbid dock]

man really

[outer iron]

Then decided halfway through "screw it" let's see if they're any good since we talked about them yesterday.

[lofty sinew]

yeah free only does 8bit

[turbid dock]

that's lame

[blazing flint]

I just realized people on Playstation have no excuse anymore for not wanting to communicate, you can literally talk through the controller for call outs

[lofty sinew]

yeah thats why cross platform games that default mic to on are so horrible

you get to hear peoples mums yell at them about cleaning the kitchen

[blazing flint]

Its not the best but its better then not saying anything, playing a very heavy teamwork callous game

[turbid dock]

gotta love dual wield gaming

i still have a pretty big list of pistols i haven't dual wielded

i imagine spitfire is pretty good

[blazing flint]

The PS5 controller speaker is not that receptive, my headset however is so I usually mute when I have nothing to say but I also play pretty late at night nothing going on

[turbid dock]

this is why you should gaslight your friends into playing with you instead

[outer iron]

Never tried it. Might be fire.

[turbid dock]

Dolch dualies sits comfortably at the very top of S++ tier according to my experimentation so far

[blazing flint]

I've tried, I have a high enough speech check to get them to buy the game for 20-30 usd but they don't like it, theyd rather play call of duty or for honor or marvel rivals or [insert any game of choice]

[lofty sinew]

yeah. hunt isn't for everyone. one friend who played just won't play games where he doesn't get to be playing games the whole time he is playing games.

so hunt is DOA

[outer iron]

I bet Dolch's are surpreme. But if it ain't a revolver just don't sit right with me.

[blazing flint]

I dont quite understand that but ill agree 😄

[lofty sinew]

will play shooters with instant respawn.

[turbid dock]

yeah i felt dirty while using them, probably won't touch it again any time soon

[lofty sinew]

will not play hunt due to not wanting to spend 10 minutes on the ground waiting for a fight to play out

[turbid dock]

scott swift is my most used dualie so far

uppercut is also surprisingly fun

the two tap consistency of dualie uppercut FMJ is crazy

and the cowboy feel is preserved

[outer iron]

Is the spread not crazy on that?

[turbid dock]

not too bad

but like

not good either lmao

[outer iron]

I tried dual lemats and I just couldn't vibe with it despite the cycle speed due to the spread. I imagine its gotta be worse than that.

[mild flower]

Does anyone here use base conversion pistol

[outer iron]

By itself? No. As duallies? Religiously.

[turbid dock]

i kinda like dual wielding it but i won't start using it until crytek gives it the new army treatment

(a more satisfying sound)

[mild flower]

Scott swift my goat

[outer iron]

I found I had to build around the scott swifts instead of it just being part of the kit, due to the ammo count. But it has me using weapons I don't normally pull.

[turbid dock]

trueshot dual wielding is also on my agenda

[worn oak]

Coffee time. ☕

[whole furnace]

Auto 4 3, solved

[turbid dock]

yeah sure why not

[mild flower]

Nah too accurate. Accuracy is a crutch. Let RNG guide your aim.

[turbid dock]

so true

Auto 3 is also a more aesthetically pleasing name than auto 4

all my homies hate even numbers

[whole furnace]

Lore reason, "due to losing its extended stock where the spring is inhabitted, a stronger spring configuration is needed to support it, cutting off an additional shell"

[turbid dock]

what about "the gunsmith kinda fucked up when sawing this thing in half, its a few millimeters short of another shell"

[outer iron]

It is fun to sometimes let RNJesus take the wheel.

[worn oak]

Auto 2.

[turbid dock]

cowboy gaming

as a disciple of RNG, what do you think about the radical proposal to re-enable soft headshots, but only for RNG weapons like fanning and dual wielding?

[whole furnace]

Full send or nothing!

[outer iron]

I was never against soft headshots. Made your ammo type more important. But I get why people dislike it.

[turbid dock]

i just want rng weapons to be incapable of insta-murdering me past a certain range

like, something aggressive

20-25 meters or so

[outer iron]

I'm fine with rng weapons. It's the sure things that get me, fucking shotguns.

[whole furnace]

I've made a whole mini movie about this!
It is called "people respecting shotguns!"

[turbid dock]

lmao

oh yeah dual bornheim, thats another favorite of mine

[outer iron]

buried in lead

[whole furnace]

Man people never gonna get to complain about new shotguns.

[worn oak]

You need 17 bullets for 1 kill. What a pistol.

[summer geyser]

cant buy blood bonds again, wtf. Anyone know the solution to the "something has gone wrong while processing this transaction" thing ?

[whole furnace]

Also almost killed my friend lol

[worn oak]

They have no other choice. Well done. ☕

[turbid dock]

steam has currently disabled paypal in lots of regions, dont know if thats relevant for you or not

[mild flower]

If auto 5 is 3 slot and 4 is 2 slot, would an auto 3 vs a 1 slot crown?

[summer geyser]

Nah, I have money in my steam wallet

[whole furnace]

Are you using VPN?

[summer geyser]

no

[worn oak]

Check you have Steam Overlay enabled.
Remove any DNS you have. Restart your router or modem.

[summer geyser]

steam overlay is done. How to remove DNS?

[worn oak]

1 - Press edit. (First photo)

2 - Double click on highlighted one. (Second photo)

3 - Remove it. (Third photo)

Restart steam after.

[summer geyser]

will that hurt anything by doing so?

[worn oak]

Nope

[summer geyser]

Remove what? The bottom numbers on mine are blank by default

in the 3rd pic

[worn oak]

So you did not have DNS. Just restart your modem and make sure steam overlay is working.

[turbid dock]

@summer geyser i'd send a quick ticket to the support hah, they'll probably prioritize getting this solved when it concerns money lol

[steep cairn]

Well, at least i don't blow up my teammates anymore

[summer geyser]

Sure. Let me show you in game. for the record, I have steam wallet funds present.

[urban steppe]

The last 3 mama maye mains clocking in

for the event

[ancient cave]

I haven't seen a mama maye for like6 months

[boreal gull]

i demand a terminus starshell. that is all.

[summer geyser]

one sec, idk what happened to that video

[deep fog]

Mama maye is a bad skin simply because the head is huge

[worn oak]

The hitbox is the same on all the hunters.

[summer geyser]

Gotta try one more time. Anyone get this message when trying to buy blood bonds? Steam overlay on, have wallet funds...

[radiant karma]

Mama maye is great. I sometimes pick her. Don't caee that she is mega visible

Witness me I say

[young panther]

restart steam

[summer geyser]

did that. Signed out, and back in as well

[young panther]

might wanna verify files then

[worn oak]

If nothing is working, customer support. #customer-support

[summer geyser]

I'll try that and then restart PC. If it doesn't work I give up

Ok, thanks

[left orbit]

bro was a solo and i told him to gtfo, he continued after i moved away. PUNISHED

[worn oak]

And he was crouch walking in the middle of the open. 🤦‍♂️

[left orbit]

yup and 2.8k hours 🥲

that being said the bounty was not much more clever. he's been in their path and they didn't detect him

i'll say it again but… the tips banner needs to remind that you can use dark sight even when you run out of seconds

[orchid spire]

why am i getting into so many games where there's only like 4 people in total?

[whole furnace]

What server region, game mode and MMR?

[orchid spire]

russia/eu, bounty hunt and 6* (I think lower 6*)

[whole furnace]

Well, it is 10:45 on monday, so most people are at work.

or school

[orchid spire]

Yeah true, but it sometimes happens at prime hours as well

I wish there a setting to choose to queue longer than to settle on a 4 player match

[whole furnace]

Dunno, not in my experience.

Had one game yesterday with 9 players instead of 12

But that's it

[teal narwhal]

I've had several instances of games with just me and another team or another player when playing outside main hours

e.g. early in the morning

[normal radish]

some people may not connect to the game in the first place due to some connection issues. in this case their names wont show up

beacause hunt will try to fill your matches up regardless of your mmr, if its not enough some replacement are put there

[teal narwhal]

it's ok though, it's still fun even with less players, that's a + of Hunt

[modern arrow]

This video popped up in my recommendations yesterday and i felt everyone here should also have to see it. https://youtu.be/9sBeHHJeGYc?si=oNi73oE4UxdBr40R

[orchid spire]

are you sure? if I play at some of the unholiest hours, I will get 4 games in a row with like only 4 people in it

[normal radish]

then that means your queues are thinly populated

[mild flower]

that guy's whole channel is great, i recommend you to perouse the rest of their videos

[modern arrow]

Hmm. Maybe I shall.

[normal radish]

im just curious to see what some people think is average

lets see

[mild flower]

3* is average no?

ig it depends on region

[normal radish]

hmm tbf i dont know which is 4 or 3

but as i watch the clip, yeh it checks out. he did a good job pointing out very obvious mistakes people make that yould expect from a lower experienced player

[teal narwhal]

fun!

[normal radish]

was fun. however the depiction of higher mmr people was kinda aggressive 😂 still a parody. thumbs up

[mild flower]

you should see this one then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq1cNjOM650

granted this was 3 years ago and more accurate to the time lol

[normal radish]

well i kinda expect what im bout to see but sure why not lol lets see

[lime mural]

Does anyone know why FPS is getting locked at 60. It just stays there

[mild flower]

change you fps cap in settings

[normal radish]

you might have put a cap on it

either in game or in nvidia/amd settings

[mild flower]

the vocals in this are actually really impressive damn

[normal radish]

yeh he did a better job singing than depicting 6 stars lol

i mean, you technically can get to higher mmr by being a sniper, but after you reach a certain point, people arent actualy as hopeless as youd think

[lime mural]

nether of them just found out windows sets it default to 60 fps, just changed it

[mild flower]

this was 3 years ago. it was pretty accurate to quite some players back then tbf

[normal radish]

i was gonna say is this ai then i remember ai wasnt good then lol

[mild flower]

we miss the days when you didn't have to ask that ;-;

[normal radish]

i mean i have been playing this game since it came out non stop. and ive been literaly in all of stages of game development and sometimes stagnation

might have been just me or my teams playstyle, but i never really had any issues with snipers. except when reshade and derender bugs happened

[grand dome]

I fucking hate this game, because of a damn error I already lost 6-7 of my hunters and about 6 thousand hutn money, this is a problem I thought it was only stalking on ru servers, but no, it stalks me everywhere and even on EU servers

[blissful mulch]

@ashen pawn hi, I was against u in previous game, how did your 3rd teammate end up dead so far from bosspit?

[normal radish]

maybe it aint the servers but your own connection

[leaden herald]

hunting down your enemies is such a mood

[grand dome]

No bro, my connection is fine, stable even like the dollar exchange rate at +- 100 MB/s, but why is my Hunt starting to act up about this? I just don't know what to do in this situation.

[ashen pawn]

If you're referring to the match where we fought at slaughterhouse, our third dc'd early in the match

[blissful mulch]

did he get killed by the duo near church?

[ashen pawn]

no he disconnected at the supply point

[blissful mulch]

oh

[mild flower]

whats this

[velvet agate]

Hunt icon

[empty eagle]

custom crosshair?

havent seen hunt one

[velvet agate]

Someone already posted it

[empty eagle]

I don't use one, first time seeing hunt icon used

[wide whale]

Run wireshark on your network while playing and see whats up

[opal dawn]

Could be out of your ISP's hands as well. If a route to the Hunt server gets jammed up they can't do anything, and neither can you

A VPN could potentially solve it, but would give you a higher overall ping

[grand dome]

My bro, the problem is that when I start the rink after a few minutes, at the beginning of the rink it just takes and deletes me from the rink hunt

[grand dome]

I understand, but I don't think a VPN will help me.

[grand dome]

Bro, I downloaded what was recommended, ran it, did a network analysis when I was in the rink, and when I was kicked out of the game, I checked Wireshark, and it didn't show anything, no errors at all, or anything else with my internet network

[dawn zinc]

Ping on EU was between 80 and 100 for me all day yesterday. No idea why.
Fortunately no disconnects though

[left orbit]

yesterday and the day before yesterday were wonky
today seems all right

[quaint cradle]

I'm averaging 3 people a match. Berthier will be ours

Trust

[left orbit]

man i got blasted by fusee against a red barrel from behind wooden planks
i feel so stupid not moving when i heard the crack... 😭

[left orbit]

working hard towards this as well, and if i can’t get a kill i’m offering my body to the Lilith running around lol

[proven raptor]

ew ai

[left orbit]

"Any sustained silence from the enemy indicates extreme caution or a lack of presence, both valuable intelligence. " ahem…

[cursive marlin]

I’m trying my hardest to get the Berthier skin man

[left orbit]

could be entirely summarized as "always be prepared, do as if there was always the whole server there"

[cursive marlin]

I already have empty cairn for mosin bayonet. No thanks. I don’t need it for regular Mosin

[warm pawn]

When do the bots stop being in my games, at what Bloodline rank?

[cursive marlin]

11

[warm pawn]

thanks

idk why Crytek's added bots, it makes the game look so boring

[tall canopy]

then why did u choose the wrong discord role 😭

[left orbit]

it gives players a chance to learn about AI first 😂 i’m not even kidding

[tall canopy]

its just for a few rounds and is suppossed for beginners to have an easier onboarding to the game

[warm pawn]

if I duo with a high-rank player I assume no bots?

[cursive marlin]

Aye man. We all make mistakes sometimes bruh

[quaint cradle]

Got two kills, my Lilith got two kills and I just died to one. Best case scenario

[cursive knot]

guys what dlc should i buy? i have cry of the caged bird in my cart and im thinking of buying 1-2 more

idk tho

i like most of them

[left orbit]

Luz Mala is slick af
and i like either the Night Acolyte or the something something Seer

[quaint cradle]

I'm a huge fan of The Penitent and Souls Of A Feather. The Cowl is another favourite

[left orbit]

and Monroe is a good pick because of the look lol

[cursive knot]

I bought cowl yesterday and im so happy with it

[cursive knot]

Luz mala is cool but ive heard the deadeye skin is pay 2 lose

im not sure tho

[proven raptor]

LAFITTE

[quaint cradle]

Not now

Make sure he stays dead until we get this Berthier

[proven raptor]

Oh :(

[cursive knot]

lafitte is so cool

i always get mad when i get killed by one

because that makes them cooler AND better than me

[whole furnace]

When Shadows Dance
The Lawless
Death's Herald

[cursive knot]

ouch

i think thats it for today i need money for groceries too

[left orbit]

dead eye? i don’t remember she has a dead eye weapon skin. it’s the ranger swift

[left orbit]

piece of advice: 10 bucks a month should be the max you spend ever 😄