hunt-general

[dawn mantle]

I'll send the clip after I edit it later

[karmic moss]

Woops I think I may have been reported for this

[astral moss]

He was standing still but gg bro.

[dawn mantle]

wait till you see the bullshit I pulled off in my match

[snow ridge]

The real reports happen when you take a terrible shot and accidentally headshot someone with pen through 2 walls that you didn't even know was there

[karmic moss]

He had a sniper I probably should have made abit more of a description losing to a iron site at that range you’re gonna be annoyed 😂

[snow ridge]

It's definitely a sweet shot

[dawn mantle]

I had one of those moments where the only reason it worked was because, like, how do I explain it

You know that saying "They can't know what I'm doing if I don't know what I'm doing"?

That but taken to the extreme where my stupidity was enough to temporarily drop their IQ too

Like they threw dynamite at me and probably expected a reaction, but who in their right mind would expect THAT reaction

[simple basin]

Tobuscus? I haven’t heard that name in years

[karmic moss]

I love using dauntless just diffuse there’s and charge yours they don’t know what hit them 😅

[dawn mantle]

I followed your advice

you'll see the clip in a second

[quiet hinge]

this looks like a friend who got two other friends to play lol

[dawn mantle]

check this shit

I demand an assassin's creed skin, Crytek

[bright plover]

Dear diary, today I died to the fucking butcher. In a 1v1, after almost cleaning out the server. And of course I had necro, but I burned out to death. I'm still giga satisfied with my solo vs trios, but MAN the ending was so fucking anticlimatic.

[karmic moss]

Was this one standing still?

[quiet hinge]

ya the boss changes for them to swing early is crazy

[bright plover]

It's not even the swinging tbh. It's throwign fireballs while I go for melee. I literally burned through my entire health like that.

[quiet hinge]

especially what it did to scrap beak

[bright plover]

I should have just started shooting.

[bright plover]

Yeah fighting scrapbeak melee is a nightmare to me lately.

[mild flower]

why does it look like you're perpetually flashbanged

[dawn mantle]

Like tell me this isn't fucking glorious

[bright plover]

I do ahve to note playing solo is so much more intense and fun thanks to the intensity.

[dawn mantle]

I melee all the bosses

[bright plover]

I just gotta learn proper trapping

[karmic moss]

I have my upload quality lowered to 720 i think it is for storage

[dawn mantle]

just gotta know when and where to swing

[dawn mantle]

fuck me even the audio is compressed

[karmic moss]

😂😂😂

What’s best equipment flare and duster or spear and penny shot? I’ve had mixed opinions I’m spear and penny 100%

[quiet hinge]

imo its spear/penny/alert mines

but theres other loadouts that are fine too, that's not to say thats what you should always run

[dawn mantle]

if you don't have a blunt weapon (a generic weapon's melee doesn't count) dusters

[quiet hinge]

an ammo box works just fine.

[karmic moss]

I only ever run spear and penny just because I like to farm all the mini that can drop perks

[dawn mantle]

Immolators are fucking annoying and worth a tool slot just for them

[quiet hinge]

well meatheads take 3 spears/extractions, and pennyshot is the most useful tool in the game

[karmic moss]

Penny Derringer deals with them

[dawn mantle]

yeah but at that point I might as well just shoot them with whatever

[quiet hinge]

do you not run an ammo box?

[dawn mantle]

point is it's quiet and reliable

[full jungle]

Wack

[dawn mantle]

I do not know a single person who runs them outside of trios expecting to just shoot everything

[full jungle]

[dawn mantle]

I think I've brought them once for more chaos bolts

that's it

[karmic moss]

Nope, I’ve ran an ammo box maybe 3-4x max

[quiet hinge]

i run an ammo box every game lol

[quiet hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/suh-dude-suh-dude-wassup-hey-gif-4722852368731220536

[dawn mantle]

I've just

never needed ammo lmao

[quiet hinge]

its also blunt

[shy mauve]

No sorry maybe it was bounty clash and I bumped onto it b accident

[quiet hinge]

so you can use it for immolators

[karmic moss]

I don’t waste ammo on mobs throwing spear all the way

[amber escarp]

for the achievement does it have to be the hammer you can find in world or does the railroad hammer work as well?

[quiet hinge]

hammer out in the world

[dawn mantle]

the throwing achievement?

You can't throw "real" weapons

Only the worldspawns

and I don't think it HAS to be a hammer?

[quiet hinge]

yes it does

[dawn mantle]

odd

[amber escarp]

ok, thanks for the quick answer 🙂

[karmic moss]

The achiement literally states hammer although I’m sure it can be done with others and they’ve just not corrected the description I’m sure I got mine with a axe it’s along time since so I’m probably wrong

[dawn mantle]

I recall someone saying they got it with a shovel

[quiet hinge]

they were lying or confused

[dawn mantle]

likely a bug cause they had a clip to back it up

[amber escarp]

in german it says Vorschlaghammer(like the one you can find) but the translations from english to germany in this game are sometimes a bit ... funky that's why i am asking

[north rain]

been a while so uhm is this an unlock or a one time copy?

[quiet hinge]

its an unlock permanently

[jagged parcel]

And it has to be a headshot, lmao

[north rain]

noice

[jagged parcel]

Otherwise it won’t kill.

[quiet hinge]

I don't think it matters anymore

[dawn mantle]

Hunters gotten through daily are always unlocks

[quiet hinge]

with the patch they one shot in the body

[dawn mantle]

You do, however, also get a free copy

[jagged parcel]

Are you sure?

[quiet hinge]

i'm pretty sure

[dawn mantle]

So its a copy of the hunter + the ability to hire more copies

[jagged parcel]

Because if that’s true…
I might finally platinum the game

Hm

[dawn mantle]

can confirm

[jagged parcel]

I’ll test, later

[dawn mantle]

As long as you're not trying to shotput it

it'll one shot

[quiet hinge]

sec ill find the patch notes

[jagged parcel]

Well that is INCREDIBLE

[dawn mantle]

yeah past a point I think it starts "tumbling" or some shit

[wary flower]

Had a dream I got a 9 kill game and there were still 3 people ratting at the end

[dawn mantle]

past a certain point it goes wonk and either deals reduced or no damage

but we're talking basically sniping with it

As long as you're within a reasonable distance it'll kill

[jagged parcel]

Oh hell yeah!

[dawn mantle]

fuck I cant get over this

[quiet hinge]

im not gonna lie, ratting with subsonic ammo is hilariously fun

[open edge]

I just wiped my team by throwing a sticky on burning spider boss lmaooooooooo I am so bad, not touching the game again today

Booting up arc raiders

[dense girder]

Yeah it was rather recently changed that fire insta-detonates any eplosives, so I'd be careful with that

[open edge]

Yeah I know im just dumb, I keep forgetting

[wild leaf]

Dude I hear ya, I've been getting killed by bows so much, I might just take a tolerance break from Hunt and go play some other game

[dense girder]

Makes room for some really cool plays tho when throwing a flare for example and insantly throwing an uncooked dynamite on it to insta-detonate, most people don't expect it neither

Or in a latern

[wild leaf]

I've been debating on whether or not to leave up until they do something to the hunting bow 💀

[open edge]

Yeah I see rechtaz doing this a lot haha

[dense girder]

Hunting Bow is in a good Spot I feel like

[mild flower]

a bit too strong imo

[dawn mantle]

Do what I do

Go headsman

Equip the axe and a medkit

Maybe other tools

4 stamina shots

And just run in

You only have an axe so you're already expecting to die

so curbstomping someone feels great, and dying is just meh

[dawn mantle]

that's how this clip came about

[bright plover]

I wish Mako had an actual marksman variant. This Aperture thingy is beyond infuriating.

[wild leaf]

Console culture. I even made sure to see if it was just me being salty or not. Everyone I've come across falls into one of three categories, regarding perspective on bow. 1. Refuse to play it because of its perceived scumminess and absurd ease of use, extreme anger and frustration on a 28 meter (maybe 30?) One shot kill range. 2. people who are so tired of dying to it, they've converted to "if you can't beat them, join them", and 3. People who use it purely because it is a console specific meta weapon and won't care about it getting nerfed, they'll just move over to the next meta weapon

[bold girder]

what your 6* friend tells you will happen if you set off sound traps

[wild leaf]

6* lobbies, I go in and sort of interview all the players I can find, we don't argue or anything, I shame no one. We just have an open environment to talk. The hunting bow fatigue is real lel

[wild leaf]

Real lmao

[dawn mantle]

In that second players defense

how the fuck are you not dead

[bold girder]

I KNOW LMAO

i didn't even see the powder keg when i was playing

i deserved to die like 3 times in that clip

[dawn mantle]

Bro had plot armor

[bold girder]

2mm closer to the lantern and my legs are in pieces on the wall

[dawn mantle]

and that last shot

like a leg shot at that point should kill you

how did you not die

[bold girder]

would've been a trade if it did kill
but yeah, i don't even know what weapon it was

[mild flower]

looks and sounds like a shotgun

they probably aimed bad and grazed you

[karmic moss]

Bow easy to use 😂 maybe if you’re being a static monkey

[random nimbus]

[random nimbus]

Dead guy had a crown

Full sized

[mild flower]

thought so

[random nimbus]

I'm also not sure why he pushed so hard.

Just go for the wallbang

You'd be able to see it easily since he's on fire

[bold girder]

panicking, probably

burned necro and he had a trio pushing from different angles

he was only 4* despite being in a 3* lobby, which is unfortunate

[karmic moss]

Panicking in a low mmr lobby is funny

[wild leaf]

I have no idea what you're saying

[karmic moss]

I very rarely come across players with the bow

[random nimbus]

I ran into one yesterday using it to wire everything off like a jerk

[bold girder]

least engaging hunt strategy

when people do that i just sit outside until match timer runs out

[random nimbus]

I cannot stand Barbed Wire Billies

[north rain]

got headshot with a big arrow from bow yesterrday after killing his mate twice

[wild leaf]

Incendiary scottfield shot the powder keg

@bold girder

[wild leaf]

What is with that trend of people making nicknames with alliteration? I don't understand it at all

[random nimbus]

Tends to flow off the tongue easier

[karmic moss]

I love doing that

[wild leaf]

Can you clarify what being a static monkey is and if you were agreeing or disagreeing with me

[bold girder]

wait, yeah
didn't think it blew up
bulwark value ig

[wild leaf]

Bulwark is so peak

[karmic moss]

Someone who never moves from a bush when they use a bow static and monkey because they’re hugging trees all of the time

[wild leaf]

I never use it though, lel

[wild leaf]

How is that applied in the given context?

[random nimbus]

Normaly we just call people who don't leave the bushes a Bushwookie

[karmic moss]

Yeah I’m aware but why be like everyone else

[random nimbus]

Because trying to be unique sometimes makes you hard to understand.

[mild flower]

what about shrub horse

[karmic moss]

Bow isn’t that easy to use tbh, if you sit and camp yeah running around and shooting moving targets it can be a pain

[random nimbus]

Bow is very easy to use.

[bold girder]

shrub horse is that one horse you get every play session that makes zero noise and hides behind a little dirt mound until you get too close

[mild flower]

then they take off like a horse as soon as they are presented with a real fight

it's perfect

[spark plaza]

amogus

[random nimbus]

sugoma

[mild flower]

omsuga

[left orbit]

is it just bad luck or a weird perception, but is night and rain more frequent or something?

[bold girder]

oh i was talking about the sound trap but that works too

[mild flower]

ohh ok lol

[karmic moss]

Who else actually plays with a controller and turns all aim assist off I can’t stand my aim being slowed on an opponent

[bold girder]

i only got one rain match today, might be coincidence

i'll take everyone's rain, i love rain

it lets me get away with stupid shit

[karmic moss]

I hate scrap beak need to dial down its screech so bad

[left orbit]

i like rain too, but above all, i like diversity 😄

[left orbit]

yeah could be. i remember a day with pretty much only night rounds -.- and i absolutely hate night because i cannot see shit, which means i’ll have to play extra campy, and i hate doing that.

[wild leaf]

Thats the whole point of him

[wild leaf]

Love the rain, they really need to make an increase on its occurance. And nighttime too.

Just feels too casual now. Almost fortnitey, but thats a little extreme

[left orbit]

no. god no.

not night ffs

do not increase night

or make it a separate contract as it used to be

[wild leaf]

Leading isn't an issue in 6*

[left orbit]

i’m 6*, it’s an issue for me.

[bold girder]

i like scrap beak because he's kinda the only boss you actually have to leave boss room during the aggo phase

unless you want to be deaf the whole fight and cover the whole compound in conc

[wild leaf]

See like thats a great idea, inclemency weather for a seperate contract where the night and rain show up specifically would be huge

[wild leaf]

Odd man out ig?

[wild leaf]

Agreed. Very nice approach, compared to spider and assassin

[bold girder]

spider can be corner bugged and assassin can be stunlocked, butcher is just tanky

[scenic plinth]

was 6 stars for a day yesterday, awful experience tbh

[karmic moss]

I am 6* 😅 leading is an issue. Was a solid 6* before they changed it aswell

[left orbit]

more like "i don’t make the rules, crytek does and they put me in there"

[wild leaf]

Console?

[wild leaf]

Console?

[left orbit]

no, PC

i mean i can lead if within 40 meters… beyond… urg

and even then i can miss the easiest headshot on a straight line running hunter

[karmic moss]

I used to play pc, but none of my friends played it on pc so went to console for hunt mainly use pc for Escape Tarkov

[wild leaf]

I can't speak on that then, I never understood how people can miss on pc, but its precisely because I don't understand that I keep quiet and learn/understand what pc goes through. @left orbit

[wild leaf]

Tarkov 🤢

Hahaha

[karmic moss]

Tarkov is amazing! I was solely pub G before hunt and Tarkov

[wild leaf]

This is honestly not a big shocker, a lot of people who should be 4/5* got thrown into 6. They just hand out 6 like candy on halloween

[wild leaf]

Really? I've only ever heard negative publicity on it, but I'm willing to have my mind changed, do tell me about it!

[karmic moss]

Waaaay to much effort explaining Tarkov one thing about it is it’s very repetitive

[bold girder]

meanwhile i've been jumping between 3-4 for the past 3 months

to be fair it's probably where i deserve to be, but i'd rather stay in 4* because then i'd at least feel ok with my mmr xd

[left orbit]

it was like that iirc when "Ash Bloom" was there, when i started playing the game

[karmic moss]

Trust me stay in 3-4 it’s the most fun there

[wild leaf]

I've never done any personal reading on Tarkov and really only watched videos regarding people's frustration on the glaring flaws, I recognize I set myself up for a negative perspective and so I always keep an open mind to it

[bold girder]

i miss ash bloom + inferno, the game hit different doing katana shenanigans during heavy ash bloom

[left orbit]

i don’t like those candies though. makes my teeth full of holes. espetially the spitzer-flavoured ones.

[wild leaf]

Oh man, you're making me feel old. I joined a few months before "as the crow flies", my brother mains plague doctor religiously

[wild leaf]

No bro its like adults telling kids to enjoy their childhood, KEEP AWAY FROM 6* PLEASE 😭😭😭😭

[karmic moss]

10000%

[bold girder]

i have the most fun when fights are pretty evenly balanced, i'll enjoy fighting 5* players when i deserve to be there, but i've got a skill issue to fix first

[wild leaf]

I love the hunt community, there was a huuuuuge toxic majority for a while, and they took over for a long time, right around the post malone event. Now it seems returned to when I first started, players new and old having a good time with fun convos

After the angry hate mob, you have no idea how nice it is to see this

[bold girder]

tbf the game was in a very interesting state during murder circus

half the maps gone, networking instability and crashes, necro rework, res bolts, shredder

i think the game is in probably the best state it's been in since 2.0

[left orbit]

i agree with that

[distant sentinel]

game good

[left orbit]

fix drilling reload and mode switch bug on looted weapons though

and then we can say game good

[mild flower]

https://tenor.com/bO6mt.gif

[bold girder]

given i haven't had hunt go below 20 hours recent playtime since the start of the last event i can't really call it not good

i've been doing zero to hero for the entirety of my current prestige lately and it's fun as hell

(keeping loadouts from previous games though)

[random nimbus]

I don't think it was that the community was toxic, but rather a large portion did not like having Post Malone shoved into our faces

[topaz cradle]

So you lose Death Cheat even if you win the game if you got downed in the game now ?

[mild flower]

its a bug

known bug

[bold girder]

i'd love to see the way traits work internally to work out why that would happen, there's gotta be some really interesting bugged logic going on there

[wild leaf]

The sleigh riding is crazy

[left orbit]

lebel marksman cycle speed with scopesmith trait is quite insane

still didn’t kill anyone with it lmao

[random nimbus]

One reason it was used so much back in the day

[distant sentinel]

idk what that means so I will pregnant man react you

[bold girder]

time to make a hunt clone in unity so i can design a whole ass map to sell to crytek

[distant sentinel]

if the map is ass nobody will buy it

[bold girder]

blundered

[random nimbus]

Could just put it in the game anyway

Free trash is still free

[bold girder]

except it also costs thousands of hours of dev time to implement it despite not having to do the initial greyboxing

[random nimbus]

Still free for us

[jagged parcel]

Game better than it used to be
Game used to be decent
Therefor, game good

[random nimbus]

Maybe instead you can go back and redo Mammon's

[whole mist]

Give us a grey box map

[random nimbus]

Because that map is trash

[whole mist]

Mammons is one of the better maps

[jagged parcel]

Agreed

[sly cosmos]

why is every map rain? is game broken again?

[jagged parcel]

One of my favourites

[bold girder]

i like the gulch, the compounds are some of my favourites
it's just a bit of a running sim sometimes

[mild flower]

Imo it's one of the worse maps but I still don't dislike it

[whole mist]

Lucky

[random nimbus]

I despise Mammons

[lucid hemlock]

Hi, why can't I invite my PC friend who installed it on Xbox?

[random nimbus]

The compound layouts are very unfun to fight in

[whole mist]

There’s no crossplay. Gamepass can’t invite Steam atm

[random nimbus]

Did they disable the Gamepass thing too?

[lucid hemlock]

when is crossplay?

[mild flower]

My map order worst to best would probably be

Lawson
Mammon
Bayou
Desalle

Maybe switch Lawson and mammon but Lawson is really forgettable for me

[random nimbus]

There seemed to be an influx of cheaters with it, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did

[whole mist]

Steam and Gamepass invites will be coming in the future. PC to console will never happen

[mild flower]

What season is Lawson even set in?

[random nimbus]

Interesting. Lawson is by far my favorite

[mild flower]

Spring?

[random nimbus]

I used to dislike Desalle, and still don't exactly favor it, but I'd take it over Mammons any day

I like Stillwater as well when it's not a few compounds.

Basically anything underground at Stillwater sucks

[mild flower]

I just forget about it. It's not memorable for me. What season is it set in? Is it usually open or enclosed? How much shrubbery?

[bold girder]

i honestly don't hate any of the maps, i just dislike some compounds on each of them

though upon reflection the only one i can really think of is pitching

[random nimbus]

And Alain's isn't fun to push

[thin patrol]

arc raiders is gonna flop.

[random nimbus]

Pitching has been a sore spot for YEARS

[lucid hemlock]

but why does the game become useless if we can't play with PCs that have installed the game on the Xbox application?

[mild flower]

I really like Alice farm

One of my favourite compounds

[bold girder]

https://tenor.com/view/hunt-showdown-butcher-kaperoo-gif-26775904

[whole mist]

I don’t know why. They’re working on it for a future update

[random nimbus]

Stillwater to me as a good number of decent compounds with a few that really suck

[whole mist]

Dark Souls boss butcher

[random nimbus]

Mammons to me is mostly ones that suck

[mild flower]

Issue with mammons for me is lack of wallbangs

[thin patrol]

Mammons gulch is the best map. Its bad for campers. Great for confident pushers.

[random nimbus]

I cannot stand how much metal is everywhere in Mammons

[left orbit]

hunting with the bois to reach P100 be like

[mild flower]

Eh not really, kinda favours campers because you can't wallbang them in their little room/corner.

[whole mist]

I miss computer lab

[lucid hemlock]

ok but when's the next one lol my friend paid for the game and he wanted to play with me

[thin patrol]

then you push them and kill them because you're better.
i have a 3.2 kd with 3k hours and 3 pax pistols as my main loadout. There is 0 excuse for failure in the bayou.

[bold girder]

i like the versatility of the mammons compounds
it gives both attackers and defenders a lot of options

[random nimbus]

That favors the camper because you're at the disadvantage

[mild flower]

Yes, just turn the corner straight into their crown and king and die.. will do

[random nimbus]

If you're going to make a map with so much less pen opportunities, then at least revert the pen damage nerfs

[whole mist]

I think December but I’m not sure if it’s coming then. Have your friend refund it and get it on Steam instead

[mild flower]

You mean unfix the "bug" right

[random nimbus]

Take a lesson from Bethesda and just call it a feature

[lucid hemlock]

he just made the request but thanks for the info

[random nimbus]

I've started running berthier spitzer for the fun of it and it's actually really gross being able to just pen everything again

[mild flower]

I'm 90% sure it was always a feature they just wanted it to sound like less of a stupid decision so they called it a bug fix

[random nimbus]

I've seen other devs do that kind of stuff when they want to make a change they know nobody will like

[wild leaf]

Nixa I've never had the privelage of asking, what is your field of work?

[bold girder]

pregnant man reactor

[random nimbus]

But let's say it was a bug. So what? People tend to have liked it better when it was in effect

At least give shotguns some of their punch back. 50% reduction on one wall is way too much

[bold girder]

to be fair i don't enjoy someone fanning through a wall for decent damage just because they can afford to waste ammo with compact economy + pocket ammo box

[random nimbus]

If someone is fanning through the wall, then they likely have a good few bullets to spam it with and you'll die to just being hit several times anyway

[bold girder]

getting good pen shots is really satisfying though

[random nimbus]

And people have started running FMJ for extra pen now anyways on things like the uppercut.

[distant sentinel]

!nixa

[graceful hedge]

Nixa only makes videos and handles their pipelines as well as any other talents he might have.

[tall canopy]

!stixatek

[graceful hedge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/403902499582509057/1400931564354928690/Stixatek_Text1.gif?ex=688e6eb0&is=688d1d30&hm=58c67d91ba0c66bce3a04bd022990c40fb99101de77474aac6211b52223c1005&=

[bold girder]

LMFAO

[random nimbus]

Ngl, the AI still having collision when burning is something I hate

Back when Concertina armored were bugged to instantly kill people, you couldn't even escape them by burning because they would stop you and mulch you to death in 3 seconds

[wild leaf]

!nixa

[graceful hedge]

Nixa only makes videos and handles their pipelines as well as any other talents he might have.

[wild leaf]

Aw man thats pretty cool!

[wild leaf]

Got stuck in between butcher and two burning grunts. I didn't stay and spectate to see if they found me burned out or not.

Suffice to say, I smoked a whole pack of newport shorts and put my hamster in a sock, the whole shabang.

[mild flower]

Imo shotgun buckshot penetration should be bad comparatively.

Gives more reason to use other CQC weapons and slugs.

[random nimbus]

I mean, a shotgun IS a CQC weapon

[bold girder]

reminds me of the time i showed up to grizzly and found a dead butcher, 3 dead enemies and a soot mark on the floor

[mild flower]

Yeah, obviously. Why are you saying that?

[bold girder]

i'm pretty sure it was a red barrel

[random nimbus]

Why would we want to encourage other CQC weapons when someone is holding one?

[smoky holly]

why doesnt chinese palyer have theyr own servers btw? i havent one match recently which wasnt either only chinese players or at least a chinese team in there. Playing in EU sucks. maybe i shoiuöld migrate to some other server

[mild flower]

Shotguns are almost the only valid CQC option right now, resulting in the shotgun meta. I think diversity should be encouraged

[quiet hinge]

??

[random nimbus]

Melee will never be a valid CQC option

[mild flower]

I never said melee

[random nimbus]

What other options are there?

You have fanning or levering maybe, but that's RNG and will never be as consistent as people want.

Bow/crossbow up close are essentially just slugs, in effect.

[quiet hinge]

bomb launcher is excellent

[whole mist]

Blance my beloved

[random nimbus]

That basically just becomes another shotgun

[quiet hinge]

if you use steel balls sure, but harpoons i think are better

also, fast shooting weapons are fine in cqc as well

like the bornheim match

[smoky holly]

Well Derringer is just a headclicker

[random nimbus]

I have seen like 3 launchers in close building fights

And all of them had waxed bolts

Basically replacing frag arrows with them

[mild flower]

Slugs and other shotgun ammo types, crossbow, lance, fanning, levering, double action revolvers, close-mid range weapons like the 1865 carbine,

[quiet hinge]

why wouldn't they when you get to split their ammo

harpoons one shot arms at a pretty crazy range

[random nimbus]

I think because they didn't want to rely on the launcher itself. I've seen some goofy things with it, but I'd much rather have a shotgun for more consistent pressure.

[quiet hinge]

I honestly never feel threatened by a shotgun since the pen changes

bows, crossbows, harpoon launchers can all beat a shotgun

crossbow shotbolt is now more scary than a shotgun because of the pen

dont get me wrong shotguns are S tier

im just more afraid of a bow, or a harpoon

[random nimbus]

The first three are functionally slugs, which also got heavily pen nerfed. Trying to make any non one tapping weapon work in close ranges where shotguns work is only possible by making shotguns bad.

And nerfing pen doesn't make them bad, just annoying.

[mild flower]

Slugs are functionally slugs? You ain't wrong

[random nimbus]

To be fair, you edited the post a bit and I didn't notice until after I posted XD

But you get my point

[fathom solar]

26k people on and can't find a team in discord , something seems fishy 🧐

[mild flower]

Sorry, I should have specified I was talking about buckshot specifically. (Slugs was always in the post, I edited in "other shotgun ammo types)

[left orbit]

26k people including 25.900 AFK

[mild flower]

Imo buckshot should be the ammo type with bad pen and slugs should be the ammo with good pen.

Buckshot is too good right now imo

One shot range reduction may make slugs too good comparatively again, I think penetration should be more of a factor against buck

[random nimbus]

Nerfing pen doesn't help any of those other options besides fanning/levering FMJ. Shotguns are designed to be good in close range, so making them bad at that just makes them bad as a whole.

Slugs should 100% have much better pen damage, I agree with that.

45% reduction is criminal

Buckshot on 3 slots is fine, imo. It's the 2 slots that got WAY overbuffed.

Like, a specter compact consistently killing at 11m is insane.

[mild flower]

I don't see the logic here, how does nerfing buckshot penetration not help other options?

[mild flower]

Also specter buff was ridiculous

Nerf crown instead of buffing specter to compete

[random nimbus]

Because they still lose to buckshot, so they don't get better, it just makes buckshot worse but still the winner.

I don't think bringing the better option closer to the lower one makes the latter better, in this situation. It just makes them both bad.

Not saying buckshot is bad, specifically.

[open fox]

Guys, my friend is telling me there is a crossplay despite me explaining there was never one allowed with PC, but he sent the screenshot of a guy in his lobby with a "monitor+controller" icon above it. what does that icon mean? not console, right?

[quiet hinge]

why is that insane?

[random nimbus]

Because it's a 2 slot with a pretty nasty RoF

Short barrel slugs used to cap at 10m

Now it kills farther away than that with buckshot

[quiet hinge]

a bow and harpoon launcher are also two slots, so is a drilling hatchet which is considered a long barrel

[random nimbus]

And both of those have much greater restrictions on them that can warrant their greater kill range

[random nimbus]

Drilling hatchet is a short barrel.

Full sized drilling is a long barrel

[quiet hinge]

its considered a long barrel, which one shots at 13m

[random nimbus]

That's not how it works.

[quiet hinge]

with buckshot

[random nimbus]

All 2 slot shotties are short barrels.

[quiet hinge]

okay

[random nimbus]

That's how they're coded.

[mild flower]

Except they're all more versatile in range than buckshot, of course they aren't quite as good point blank. It just gives them more of a fighting chance if the user plays better than the shotgun user. And anything with decent penetration could try to compete with a buckshot by playing around walls and going for wallbangs.

[quiet hinge]

you got it dude

[random nimbus]

That's literally how the weapons are coded, not sure what else to tell you lol

[quiet hinge]

so what is the one shot range of a drilling hand cannon

with buckshot

[random nimbus]

Killing range isn't what determines the barrel length.

Rival is a medium barrel even after the range buff

[quiet hinge]

thats not what i asked though

[astral moss]

Rival broken.

[random nimbus]

The question isn't relevant.

barrel length is not correlated to kill range.

[quiet hinge]

okay, but we're going to complain about a spectre one shotting at 11m?

[random nimbus]

Because a 2 slot shotty killing at 11m is a bit too much I feel, yeah.

Like, only the Romero hatchet could do that before and because it was a single shot

[quiet hinge]

because of the rof?

[mild flower]

Especially one with such an absurd cycle time

[random nimbus]

And 4 shots available

[open edge]

Dlc released?

[quiet hinge]

i really don't understand this issue, if a shotgun doesn't kill you in one shot and you're in their range, you either pushed with something that can kill it or you're dumb

[wild leaf]

Dude they said they fixed melee, why did my hammer just go through this guy

[mild flower]

Clip

[astral moss]

Or another shot cause beside romero they have multiple shot.

[quiet hinge]

if a shotgun doesn't oneshot you, and you're using a bornheim match then they just die, same with an officer, god forbid a dolch

[random nimbus]

The issue is the increased volatility of close range by making every 2 shot shotty so consistent. There's a LOT less gaps in a loadout now and I don't think plugging those holes is a good thing.

[wild leaf]

Yeah idk why I said anything, I can't cause I'm on ps

[wild leaf]

Trying to download it just is impossible

[mild flower]

Not necessarily, if they're using a crown or specter they may very well have time to get a second shot off

[quiet hinge]

thats very true, and its a matter of aim punch

at that point

but that doesn't mean that 2 slot shotgun > bornheim match or dolch p

or harpoon launcher, or bow

[random nimbus]

Well, they have entirely different functions

[mild flower]

And crown and specter are easily the meta shotguns right now, so chances are they are using that

[random nimbus]

You can't compare a 2 shot shotty to a dolch p because they aren't trying to do the same things.

[mild flower]

If the shotgun user misses, sure

[quiet hinge]

well we're talking about if the shotgun doesn't kill in one shot. Lerii takes issue with dying within 11m of a compact shotgun

[random nimbus]

That's the one I pointed out specifically

[mild flower]

The shotgun could still kill in one shot though. The issue is just with the range

[random nimbus]

To say that I think 2 slot shotties were overbuffed

[mild flower]

11m is too long

[random nimbus]

As much as I hate the dolch p, I'm not angry it kills me at 20m because it's a pistol.

[mild flower]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-michael-scott-thats-what-she-said-gif-20446601

[whole mist]

There doesn’t seem to be that big of a tradeoff with 2-slot shottys atm

[random nimbus]

They went from general trash tier to way too strong, imo

[mild flower]

Rival shorty and Romero shorty were always decent

[random nimbus]

Rival was because of the fire rate, but that buckshot on it was pretty doo doo

[whole mist]

Shotguns are notoriously hard to balance in games. It’s very easy to make them OP, or completely useless

[random nimbus]

But 2 shots of shit is better than 1 if you miss

[spark plaza]

I'm angry cause I die before I can shoot 1 bullet 😎

[random nimbus]

And they shot 3

[whole mist]

@spark plaza no amogus today?

[spark plaza]

It is rather early today

[whole mist]

Hmm i see

[spark plaza]

Also 1 hr ago

[random nimbus]

I also don't think the specter needed the fire rate buff

[quiet hinge]

I don't understand this at all, so what do you want the OHK range to be? 10? The same as a lemat pistol?

[random nimbus]

I don't think any 2 shot shotty should kill farther than their slug option

Which was always 10m

[quiet hinge]

ya okay so you want every compact shotgun to be the equivalent of a lemat pistol

[random nimbus]

If the Lemat pistol is killing that far, then it needs to go down too

[quiet hinge]

its always killed that far

[random nimbus]

With a slug

Not buckshot

[mild flower]

No

[quiet hinge]

okay

[mild flower]

When U start playing?

[quiet hinge]

like 2 years ago

[mild flower]

It got buffed in the general shotgun buff of 2.0

[random nimbus]

Lemat pistol struggled to kill at like 7m before the changes

That's why everyone ran slugs in it

[mild flower]

That explains a lot.

[quiet hinge]

lets find it

[random nimbus]

And when they initially buffed lemat pistol buckshot before the universal buckshot buffs, it was bugged and only worked on dual lemats XD

[mild flower]

No

[mild flower]

Yea this was funny

[spark plaza]

Real ones know how genuinely dogshit lemat buckshot was before

[storm flume]

That awkward moment when out of all shotguns i alway like the basic romero… since EA.

Like sure CK that could shoot as fast you can click was fun but it’s good Ol’ reliable romero that has always been the pick.

[analog spire]

Its still pretty unreliable sometimes

[mild flower]

It was good for finishing off damaged enemies at least

[spark plaza]

Rn? Nah I disagree, it reliably kills to 9-10m whenever I use it

[storm flume]

Check Haymakers bullet drop if you want to laugh your ass off. I mean taking compact lemat is a better investment than haymaker for its ranged capabilities

[random nimbus]

LongMat has 40 damage falloff

[mild flower]

Check uppercut explosive.

[storm flume]

Put FMJ on it

And compare it to regular lemat

[analog spire]

For me a lot of the times it just does 138 to 148 dmg passt 7 meters

[random nimbus]

You don't need FMJ with the LongMat

But if you do then you have like 60m falloff

And insane pen

[storm flume]

Uppercut explosive is just a meme tho

[analog spire]

With fanning its funny

[open edge]

New hunter got a gyat, I can see her ingame but cant buy her

[storm flume]

Exactly meme.

[storm flume]

Paid DLC if you’re talking about Michael Jackson

[open edge]

Yeah

[storm flume]

Yeah can’t buy her for BBs or you mean you can’t find her in steam store?

[open edge]

Fortnite skin type of gyat

[mild flower]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-tell-me-gif-9628021

[open edge]

She isnt released yet but I see her ingame, I can inspect her and her guns. Its like a little bug I think

[random nimbus]

I just want the Krag and Harmy skin

[storm flume]

I miss maxim avtomat loadout, was fun to take ince in a while (2 chains + fmj + fanning before the whole ammo stacking nerf)

[random nimbus]

You can still stack ammo from two chain pistols, unless you mean duals

But then you can't fan

[storm flume]

Wait 2 separate slots still stack?

[random nimbus]

Yes

[open edge]

The new krag skin is really crazy, dont know if im gonna swap it for my camo skin

[mild flower]

Yes

[storm flume]

https://tenor.com/view/weareback-wereback-wearebackbaby-hangover-the-gif-18475016

[open edge]

Most yellow gold skin in game I think, no?

[late viper]

which would you guys say are the best weapons ?

[analog spire]

What skin you talkikg about

[random nimbus]

White and gold are one of my favorite color combos, and I've wanted Last Transaction as a full sparks for ages

This is a good substitute

[mild flower]

Knuckle dusters default skin maybe

[analog spire]

1865 carbine with subsonic

[open edge]

Shiny asl

[analog spire]

Yea thats nice

[open edge]

Krag and uppercut

[analog spire]

What is the player skin

[mild flower]

The meta is mosin nagant and auto 4 shotgun or specter shorty.

[random nimbus]

Depends a bit. Winnie (Ranger, Frontier, Infantry) are probably your best bet for starting out. Mosin is generally considered the best rifle for sweating.

[random nimbus]

Mosin Spitzer specifically

[analog spire]

Looks good

[late viper]

how is the wildland rifle? been a while since i logged in

never heard of it

[mild flower]

Nah I see more mosin regular ammo sweats so they can get 125 damage

Spitzer on sniper

[alpine bough]

Nothin was seen

[random nimbus]

I still tend to see more spitzer irons than regular on the sweaties.

[analog spire]

Its new in this update

[random nimbus]

I never see mosin sniper anymore

[analog spire]

But its good

[open edge]

I heard you

[alpine bough]

Nope

[mild flower]

The snipers are all on maynard

[random nimbus]

Now I have been seeing a good bit of Mosin Spitzer/Uppercut FMJ

[open edge]

Monroe son or lulu daughter

[random nimbus]

Cannot stand that thing

[devout wren]

EU servers down ?

[mild flower]

I respect this Loadout honestly. Sweaty, but skillful.

[random nimbus]

The 'No cover exists' loadout

I've been using Berthier spitzer a bit lately and being able to pen everything feels great again

[mild flower]

Maybe they should bring back wallbangs to even the playing field

Please

[devout wren]

Eu servers seems down

[open edge]

Wallbang kills are the most satisfying in this game

[dusty palm]

eh, what and how? it was a head shot and the status on how I got killed was a headshot

[random nimbus]

He shot you through the wagon

[open edge]

He banged that wall

Right in the dome

[fathom shale]

Your head is not an infinitely small point at the center of the camera

[dusty palm]

The status didnt show a wall bang tho so I was confused on that

[fathom shale]

It's visible above the cart at that angle

[random nimbus]

Then possibly that he saw you above it

[open edge]

Head peaked a little

[fathom shale]

There's width and height to hunters

[open edge]

Where you crouching

Then he shot your foot 😂

[dusty palm]

ah I see thanks

[random nimbus]

One thing I do hate is that spitzer makes the game so unbelievably point and clicky

Even more than long ammo already feels most of the time

[mild flower]

Game would be better if Spitzer didn't exist imo

[random nimbus]

I struggle with it in ranges that do need a good bit of lead with spitzer since I never trained myself with it, but within 80-100m it's just gross

[random nimbus]

As much as I like the idea of it, I think that's true.

Velocity is probably the most powerful stat if you're a damn good shot

Damage doesn't matter if you just click heads

That's not relevant for most people tho.

[dusty palm]

I mean like for those who are relevant, well the rest gets a bullet in the head

[mild flower]

Everyone misses head sometimes

[random nimbus]

Oh absolutely. Some people have a pretty nasty headshot to miss ratio tho XD

And the game is genuinely unfun to play when in those kinds of matches.

Everything is the same and every fight is just instantly getting blown up if you make a mistake

[scenic plinth]

hes like the health inspector "yeah you repeaked so i had to headshot you"

[crisp notch]

Bro whats the giant aligator in the water

[late viper]

I used to run borhheim extended and uppercut when going for expensive loadout, scottfield spitfire and lemat for budget. Would you suggest to change something or consider other better weapons?

[crisp notch]

i just about shit my pants

[scenic plinth]

rotjaw

[dusty palm]

lol, its rotjaw boi

[wheat pilot]

Why do people like spitzer so much? Mosin muzzle velocity is already high and it reduces damage.

[scenic plinth]

headshooting is easier

[crisp notch]

is there any way to fight him without getting bit constantly?

[scenic plinth]

its like a darksouls boss you have to dodge the moves appropriately

[wheat pilot]

ig but i feel like if you cant hit heads with 615 velocity than that is not the issue

[random nimbus]

Because higher velocity is always a good thing.

[scenic plinth]

slow swim towards you, 90 degree from his position

[random nimbus]

And if you can hit headshots already, then taking out more of the uncertainties of velocity and drop will make you more consistent at hitting them

[random nimbus]

Sprint perpendicular to where she approaches until she pops up. She should miss you most of the time

[storm flume]

Ironically I’ve religiously avoided spitzer because i trained to lead my shots so i can’t hit broad side of the barn with Spitzer yet i can HS a squad at Lockbay from Graves with Mosin Sniper regular ammo

It’s cheating! Cheating!

[random nimbus]

A lot of people are that way with slower velocities too. Muscle memory is strong

But as a concept, higher velocity is better, even if you specifically do better with lower ones from training and acclimation

[storm flume]

Yep muscle memory is a bitch, having to account for drop against muscle memory only made it worse

[mild flower]

Yeah using 1865 fmj has ruined me for other guns

[random nimbus]

I use the 1865 silent carbine from time to time and it's like mail order bullets

[mild flower]

Why silencer?

[storm flume]

Haven’t used 1865 much but silenced is literal “Head in circles = HS”

[random nimbus]

Trying out the sights

I don't care for them but I wanted to give them a fair shot

[mild flower]

Fair enough

[late viper]

I used to run borhheim extended and uppercut when going for expensive loadout, scottfield spitfire and lemat for budget. Would you suggest to change something or consider other better 1 slot weapons?

[urban notch]

pax trueshot with hv or fmj is all u need

[thin patrol]

yep

[urban notch]

especialli now that is easy to find in world weapons with custom ammo on them already

you can easy get a shotgun like slate or berthy with spitzers

or just get 3 points and get nest weapons

[thin patrol]

i have a new hot take, and it's that you shouldnt be able to strafe midair. Shouldnt be able to Shift W - Jump - Press S to ignore physics and move backwards in midair.

[mild flower]

What about turning your camera and holding w

[urban notch]

i consider that mechanical skill and is fine by me

i would only like that bushes make noise and slow you like in tarkov so rats would think twice before hiding

[thin patrol]

Same shit. Everyone can do it. But not everyone macros it into a toggle like some of the people in my mmr do.

[mild flower]

Bushes do make noise though don't they

[thin patrol]

they do.

[mild flower]

And slowing wouldn't matter cause bush campers aren't moving anyway

[urban notch]

when they hear cooking they do

[mild flower]

If you already know they're there then there's no issue anyway

They're so exposed

[thin patrol]

I never realized until today that the core of the 6* shuffle, is Shift w - jump AND S. for 3k hours i just been jumping periodically, every 2 to 3 seconds. but it never felt the same. I was missing the backwards input. sadly, i dont have a macro that is perfectly timed to perform these inputs in between compounds and cover. The short S input is essentiall. I can do it without a macro, now that i understand it. But holy fuck i can see why people have started to marco the tech entirely.

[random nimbus]

To be fair, that would kinda turn bushes into a sort of water, and would just be annoying with how much foliage there is in some places

[mild flower]

How do you know they're macroing it

[mild flower]

Stillwater would be even shittier to traverse.

Constant slow

[thin patrol]

ive seen various vids and clips where the timing is 100% perfectly timed to avoid the movement penalty. I could probably find again, just need some digging. I knew they had a macro for it, for a long time. I just didnt know the inputs they were using.

[jolly canyon]

Anyone having hit registration problems? Yesterday i shot someone in the head twice while they were crouched still 50m away and nothing

[fathom shale]

Did you clip it?

[dusty palm]

At most I know is going in and out of the water if you have the leeway of shooting the gator, but if you need to be quiet in killing it you just have to knife it, you probably will get bit

[jolly canyon]

No i dont have shadowplay on.

[fathom shale]

Then there's no way of knowing whether or not it was a miss or such

[late viper]

Ok thanks! What about 2 and 3 slot weapons? For shotguns I usually go auto 4 shorty, slate, rival, auto 5 or haymaker. While for guns Krag, Mosin, centennial (shorty and trauma), lebel aperture and marathon swift for budget version.

[dusty palm]

If he did the charge animation you just have to run 90 degree in straight line from his attacking angle to dodge it

[urban notch]

for rotjy run sideways turn and hiy

[twilit mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/revenant-paragon-gif-22839163

1 man,

1 bananna

[wheat pilot]

macros are basically cheating imo

[fathom shale]

Using macros in online games is extremely cringe if nothing else

But yeah they have also already blocked some macro software, so I'm pretty sure it's bannable

[crisp notch]

hows the chu ko nu?

[dense girder]

A macro? That's cringe. And I hardly doubt anyone really uses a macro for that, it's not that deep to occasionally hit S when jumping and running around

[whole mist]

https://tenor.com/view/shane-stares-at-dale-get-a-load-of-this-guy-gif-12534921026207897341

[bright plover]

I have nothing but hatred left for Bounty Clash. I'm beginning to think I even prefer Soul Survivor. 3rd game in a row where a guy has something long ammo + Auto-4 and I die to them.

[heavy finch]

if you can tie them to ingame accounts

[bright plover]

This game mode just brings out the worst in people, idk.

[heavy finch]

gamemode would be more fun if it was more like BR where you had to loot weapons

[dense girder]

Welp, that's just the meta sadly

[bright plover]

Don't get me wrong, Soul Survivor also sucks because the lategame is a camp fiesta, but at least I see variety in the ways I die. Here it's Auto-4 spam + from time to time Slate, nothing else.

[crisp notch]

how do you get the self revive?

[bright plover]

The trait Necromancer, for 4 points. Also, only if you play solo.

[bright plover]

The only real saving grace is running free hunters with basic stuff and looting better stuff. You simply have to, at one point, be able to kill someone with a Romero and loot their weapons. Idk, I'll try Quickplay some more to see what I hate more and probably back to bounty hunt.

[left orbit]

P100 🎉 now 100 ranks to complete but phew

numbers go up

[rare quiver]

is the game offline? error 0x30001

[crisp notch]

works fine for me atm

[chrome stratus]

Good grief

Congrats

[dense girder]

Well done!

I'm still missing 82 😔

[jolly canyon]

Wish they went back to the old progression system.

[dense girder]

You mean unlocking weapons with your level?

Nah, would make prestiging a pain

Don't wanna grind to level 72 to use the mosin again

I believe it was 72

[quasi marsh]

that's the meta in Bounty Clash

or just shotgun

or katana n shit like that

[jagged parcel]

I like the katana :)

And the sabre. And the lance.

[quasi marsh]

or the rats playing with snipers and they just wait for u to clear up everything and they snipe out of nowhere

[left orbit]

👆 reason i stopped bounty clash

[quasi marsh]

I had yesterday that shit and I just alt+f4

Sniped me out nowhere from a cave bc I stopped to check my phone

[left orbit]

well, one of. the other was bow frag spam

which is now irrelevant but well i don’t find clash compelling anyways

[quasi marsh]

oh nah fuck that

i had yesterday concetrina spammer

[jagged parcel]

I exclusively use the lemat carbine and sabre. I cover ALL ranges, except compound to compound sniping
I really, REALLY like lemat carbine with FMJ

[quasi marsh]

he locked himself in the compound with concetrina

[late viper]

do you think using spear, aid kit, flare fun and choke bomb as tools; normal stamina, regeneration and vitality + dinamite everytime is expensive?

[quasi marsh]

yeah

[jagged parcel]

Probably?
I’m using fuses at the moment, but, I always enjoyed using flare pistol and just shooting straight up lmao

[quasi marsh]

400 with the hunter + weap

that's smth

and depends on the weap u play with

[left orbit]

that’s when i say on proxy VC "ok ya don’t wanna play, me neither bye" and exfil/go XP farming

unless i have a few dynamites

[timid zinc]

Yo, is mouse and keyboard supported on xbox?

[quasi marsh]

smh I had one time when one dude didn't wanted to show up and fight over the bounty and I just spoke on proxy VC with him to make a deal lmfao

they just waited for me to come inside the compound

[urban notch]

tools 1234

cons zxcv

[silk shoal]

Game with randoms today. We made it to the bounty almost immediately. I picked up the first token. Scanned and noticed that a player was nearby. And my two team mates just get into an argument because neither of them want to pick up the bounty. All the while I'm trying to shoot in the rain.

2* lobby fun.

[crisp notch]

me and last guy alive in the lobby both get bounty tokens

"hmmm for no other reason than cause I can I will now attempt to track and kill this guy from one side of the map to the other"

like what compells someone to do this? lol

[opal dawn]

Hunt is about making sure someone else loses, not that you win

[jolly canyon]

Yes

Hunt is about taking a mofukr back to the main menu with me

[crisp notch]

also if you firebomb a dead guy would that negate his revive?

[jolly canyon]

Only if he burns out

[hasty wharf]

only if he burns for long enough

[left orbit]

yeah i had that once too against last solo. he pushed me into his traps. sadly i saw those traps but did a bad move and tripped into them -.- i was so salty

baited the last bounty for someone to take

[jolly canyon]

Just kill em and trap em.

[left orbit]

dude was also keeping distances so that i wouldn’t try to push

[crisp notch]

the stupidest death I had by far was a solo guy killed the boss, and while looting the 2nd token I stepped on a bear trap he placed, and while going to hide to heal set off a concertina bomb lol

[left orbit]

damn always funny to receive comments written in Cyrillic (which i don't read) insulting me of, erm, "deaf lady who offer … services"

i don’t even know what i did to deserve that XD

from private profiles clowns always

"Add Friend"

[remote moss]

hypothetically, some people are in there just for research and also pretending to be different players among the actual cheaters

so naw

[frigid ibex]

Are you in there

[remote moss]

no

im just saying, impersonators are definitely in there

[frigid ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[remote moss]

im innocent, in the eyes of the law

[opal dawn]

Guilty until proven innocent

[remote moss]

what kind of dumbass links their steam acc to that

nevermind, purge them

[frigid ibex]

The way you played that swat game

[opal dawn]

There's a higher power for judging people, I'm just ensuring everybody gets to the trial

[remote moss]

truly, a peak holy man

[opal dawn]

"Citizen, you have 0.2 microseconds to comply"

[remote moss]

cant believe youre nice enough to ask, truly a merciful person

[opal dawn]

I am!

[remote moss]

when you dink them behind walls, it breaks RoE but sends them to the lord faster

[opal dawn]

Finally someone who sees it!

[remote moss]

[random nimbus]

Running into a team of two Duos is always odd

One team was trying to meme with sparks pistol and then a choke beetle kill

And it almost worked XD

Also, matchmaking is really borked.

[heavy finch]

what is the exploit?

we talking minor darksight bugs etc?

[random nimbus]

A match of all 6* with a 3 and a 4star, one of which was on our team and had 6k total bounty.

Like, why you tossing them to the wolves like this?

[heavy finch]

because the 6 star on their teams mmr was insanely high

[frigid ibex]

People keep talking about winstreak and losing streak modifiers but I'm out of the loop

[random nimbus]

We were random trios

Ain't none of us THAT high

This person had 6k bounty total. Rank 61 p0

[opal dawn]

Becoming wolf dinner is a noble profession

[heavy finch]

just because you are random trio doesnt mean they are?

[opal dawn]

Matchmaking gets super weird at times

[frigid ibex]

Game tells you if its random or not

[random nimbus]

One of the low ranks was on our team. Ain't no reason to put them with us

[frigid ibex]

There's a modifier icon

[heavy finch]

are you 6 star?

[random nimbus]

Yes

So was the other random

[heavy finch]

so both the 6 and 4 was randoms or did you know the 4 ?

[random nimbus]

All of us were random on our team

[heavy finch]

aight dats weird wtf

[random nimbus]

We found levering and they spammed one person down with a winnie, which was funny

But this was mosin and slate slugs in the match

And the duo trying to meme, which was kinda ironic

One team was premade, the other trio

Two trios and 3 duo teams

And we had full 6* match MMR, so maybe we were just that sweaty

[left orbit]

good luck on your journey 😄

[marsh raft]

Yo can they fix the changing mode after each battle? I logged like 3 times to hunt instead of clash just of this ....

[stoic pendant]

League of legends is the best game ever

[unique trail]

5 games havent hit a single shot 💀

[urban notch]

i noticed my comment was removed i didnt want to be offensive or something sorry guys

[random nimbus]

Some days be like that

[paper anvil]

Am so locked in with hunt rn

[dense sleet]

me yesterday

[untold stag]

how do yall speedrun dark tribute i got a hot date

[dense sleet]

and then this morning ive been nailing 100m pistol headshots like its nothing

[twilit prism]

alright guys i need help, do i go get food first? or just starve and enter the bayou?

[left orbit]

trying to get kills with 1865 but only gets with scottfield for the finishing touch

[dense sleet]

i wiped a team at 80-120m with 3 uppercut shots

[dense sleet]

wtf Avali you still play

swear i aint seen you in ages lmao

[peak cave]

You can call me Angel, and yeah sometimes

[dense sleet]

duly noted

[peak cave]

In the server? Yeah I tend to not really talk here

[dense sleet]

glad to see you still play even if only sometimes

[dense sleet]

in game as well, i ran into you quite often

[peak cave]

Ay?

Nice!

I only play this hellish game when streaming to someone or playing with someone, straight up solo-ing it is pain

[dense sleet]

yea i feel that

i aint solo'd it in a fat minute, but solo at least is so muc heasier from when we first started lol

[peak cave]

Soloplay is easier, enemies are way, way harder…

A bad session can feel like playing against meta every other match

That clip I sent though was just one of my matches on a disgustingly good session

[dense sleet]

good way to put it yea, theres so many powerful options in the game now its a bit difficult to get going

[peak cave]

People haven’t been using shotguns much the last couple days?

[dense sleet]

ehh

[peak cave]

Which is a BREATH of fresh air

[dense sleet]

not from my expeirence

QM is still insanely strong

[peak cave]

I heard I’m alone in seeing that

[peak cave]

It’s true, but I just haven’t been seeing many 5 slot loadouts

[dense girder]

I still think QM should be made scarce

[dense sleet]

i dont think thats necessary

[peak cave]

Oooooh I like that idea

[dense sleet]

then well just see even MORE mosin/upper lol

[dense girder]

Having a 2 slot shotgun should have the drawback of having a 2 slot rifle, not the full 3 slot one

[dense sleet]

its just our 2 slots options have gotten MUCH stronger

[peak cave]

As opposed to Mosin/P. Upper?

[dense girder]

I'll take that everyday over 2 slot shotguns

[peak cave]

Micro auto

[peak cave]

Same

[dense sleet]

honestly the a4 doesnt bother me as much as the obrez drum

[fickle maple]

bomb launcher is underrated ngl

[dense sleet]

or the launcher is nuts

45m ohk upper chest

romero hc is only 2 meters less buckshot ohk

[peak cave]

Ain’t no way! I can’t agree with this

[dense sleet]

i never said it doesnt bother me

but a 2 slot rifle with hardly any downsides? and 25 rounds to boot?

hard to beat man

[dense girder]

Yeah, exactly why QM is too strong

[dense sleet]

and you can run a full length shotguin and main cqc

[dense sleet]

i wouldnt disagree, but i dont think making QM scarce is a good idea

as for a solution, i dont have one

but i dont think this is a good one

[dense girder]

But why is it not?

[dense sleet]

build diversity is a thing in hunt ive always enjoyed

i always thought about making QM the first 2 slot trait

slots are infinitely more important than points anywyas

[peak cave]

Okay true

[real fog]

any1 know what tomorrows event will be like

[peak cave]

Slots are invaluable

[dense sleet]

its not an event, more so a community challenge

basically, kill enough and get a reward

[real fog]

Figured yea

[peak cave]

I always save at least one point on the off chance I find DC

[dense sleet]

this current event is the only real event

and this doubles as the halloween one as well

[dense girder]

You would still be able to get the same diversity pretty much, just not with a full strength rifle or shotgun in addition to a very strong 2 slot

[dense sleet]

im biased and i hate most of the 2 slot options

but unbiased

[real fog]

i hope that they add something new like exclusive skins for this or something

[dense sleet]

something does need to happen to QM loadouts, but scarce qm is not the way imo

making qm more expensive doesnt really do muc heither

at least point wise, hence the 2 slot trait idea

[left orbit]

every time i hear a mosin killing every one, my inner voice says it's no use to even try
and i'm right every time

[dense girder]

Imo you should need too choose between a 3 slot for either long range or close range and live with the consequence of only being able to equip a pistol as your sidearm, or have a long and close range option, but just the 2 slot variants to balance it out

[dense sleet]

the game was never really built with a rock paper scissors in mind imoi

that type of balance is pretty lame imo

and it only makes long ammo THAT much more oppressive

why use a ammo type (shotguns) that have only one true effective range? where as long has so much more use cases

[dense girder]

Idk, you'd atleast now that if you push a mosin player that he won't pull out a stupidly strong 2 slot shotgun

[dense sleet]

i think if obrez drum went lost 10 rounds and went to s tandard mosin cap, and if they reduced total rounds of certain 2 slots, it would go a long way

[dense sleet]

lemat?

[peak cave]

But in its current state, rather than playing rock paper scissors with enemies, you’re playing rock paper scissors gun and your opponent picks gun every time, leaving you with only one winning option, being the same exact thing as them

[dense sleet]

the rock you can throw at someone is legit a 9m ohk

and they JUST buffed its buck

[dense girder]

That's an exception, but that's also nowhere near as strong as an auto 4 for example

[peak cave]

Okay Lemat does kinda fuck

[dense sleet]

absolutely not, but its a consideration

[peak cave]

I’ve had good experiences using it

[dense sleet]

we have options taht have multiple uses

hell we have the spear, which is still very easy to use

pennyshot derry

[dense girder]

Idk, but the 2 slot shotgun backup meta is boring and they should at least do something against it

[dense sleet]

we have PLENTY of cqc ohk options that are insanely oppressive

[dense girder]

Cowboy game but I rarely see pistol fights

[dense sleet]

thats more so bc pistols were left in the dust

its hard to argue using them when all 2 slot rifles are just

better

[peak cave]

That’s because QM exists though

[dense sleet]

i mean

4 slot loadouts are nothing new

[dense girder]

😔

[dense sleet]

theyve been consitatnly strong

even more so now

no qm needed, and im some cases they are BETTER than full length rifle/pistol or shotgun/pistol

[dense girder]

In what cases are they better?

[dense sleet]

Drum and Romero HC is a digusting case

[dense sleet]

bow got buffed
crossy got more consistant with shotbolt being fixed (its not but sometimes it works)
2 slot shotguns across the board have better buckshot ability, and are way more consistant
obrez drum exists
Bomb Launcher is a util king and boasts a better ohk than the crossy/bow

romero hc is nuts

A4 is nuts

honestly, the way it is now

i would 100% rather use a obrez drum and a bow over a full length mosin/upper

[opal dawn]

Damn, invisible hunters, including myself 😢

[dense girder]

But you could also use a Full length mosin and a bow with QM? So how are 2 2 slot weapons better?

[dense sleet]

ive had people have this bug a lot recently

[dense sleet]

i was mentioning w/o using qm

just pointing the fact that making qm scarce would really do nothing

[opal dawn]

Uncool!

[dense sleet]

since some 2 slots are better than 3 slots

i havent even mentioned the dolch p lmao, that shit is roided as well but thats nothing new

[drifting dove]

wait wtf you cant necromance if you die at 1 bar if the rest in burned

[dense sleet]

nope

you HAVE TO have a single bar remaining in some capacity

[dense girder]

I don't think there's a single 2 slot weapon that is better than their 3 slot counterpart

[dense sleet]

you can stand up at 1 hp

[dense sleet]

im not just talking in the same famility

[drifting dove]

well i couldnt

[dense sleet]

you missed the timing then

bc you can

[dense girder]

But that was the whole point of our discussion?

[dense sleet]

that was teh point of your

IM saying that making QM scarce wont do anything

[drifting dove]

no no i meant all the health bars were burned when i was alive then i died with only one bar available

[dense sleet]

bc you ll still see rifle/shotgun in nearly the same effectiveness

[dense sleet]

you died with your last bar then, and lost it

[peak cave]

I refuse to use any variant of the Obrez simply because its irons feel absolutely insufferable to me
I don’t know what it is, but I cannot hit anyone with it, even stationary

[dense sleet]

sure not quite the same, but it will still be strong as fuck

[drifting dove]

yeah i didnt know that was a feature in the game

[peak cave]

It’s JUST the Obrez too

[velvet summit]

Burning out solo hunters wouldn't matter if that worked

[dense sleet]

irons are preferance

they are absoltuely fucking zoinked atm

[peak cave]

I’ve got clips where I’m aimed directly on stationary people and the bullet misses

[jagged parcel]

Well, it’s just how it has to be. Otherwise there’d be no way to permanently take a solo out of the game if they have necro.

[dense sleet]

the drum has 125, above average mv, 25 total rounds, quick reloads, and the same rof if not a tad slower than teh base mosin

[drifting dove]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[peak cave]

Yeah only problem is that I can hit with every other weapon

[dense sleet]

you might not just be use to the chonkier sights

[jagged parcel]

Literally me lmao

[dense sleet]

the mosin match has the same sights, and it throws me off too

[jagged parcel]

Half my kills are with a katana because I’m better at positioning than aim

[drifting dove]

true

[dense sleet]

god what a waste of a weapon addition

[drifting dove]

MA MAAAN i use saber instead

[peak cave]

Again, when I’m aimed at stationary people and I can see on video that I was aimed at them when I shoot…

[peak cave]

Truly

[dense sleet]

theres plenty of reasons it didnt land

honestly i trust hunts hit reg over most over games

its not perfect by any means, but i do trust it a tad more

[jagged parcel]

I alternate! Sometimes I like sabre, sometimes I like bomblance, sometimes katana… katana is usually my crutch weapon.
But Corvus is an amazing skin, so- even if I use cypress Thorne, it always holds a special spot in my heart

[dense girder]

But not AS strong, that was the whole point of making QM scarce, you should play to your weapons advantage, not have a 2 slot shotgun or rifle as a backup when you can't. Since when is playing at your weapons advantage a bad balancing factor? You shouldn't have a backup plan for everything if you don't play to your weapon's advantage is what I'm saying. If you can't keep your shotgun opponent at distance with your mosin, that's just how it is, you shouldn't have a 2 slot shotgun backup to balance that out. Or you could, but then you shouldn't have the power of a 3 slot rifle, but a 2 slot instead

[peak cave]

What are the reasons?

[jagged parcel]

At the minute I’m using katana because it has a unique draw animation in the menu with the shrine maiden lmao

[drifting dove]

im ngl skins actually play a role in confidence

[dense sleet]

sway being a big one

[shut yacht]

do you keep the devil card effect if u did extract without dying?

[peak cave]

No

[dense sleet]

you mean the effect? not its only for that match

[urban notch]

wou will always die in hunt might as well die with some drip

[dense girder]

You have to use it again

[jagged parcel]

Oh yeah, they definitely can.
I find cypress Thorne easier to aim with, for instance, because the curved blade helps frame the stab.

[peak cave]

On video I can see that the frame I shoot I’m aimed at him

He wasn’t 80m out

[shut yacht]

alright thank y guys 🫡

[dense sleet]

dm me the vid

[peak cave]

Only like 30

[dense sleet]

like i said i dont mind admitting i was wrong, but i do trust hunts hit reg a bit more

[drifting dove]

EXACTLY

[dense sleet]

but i have PLENTY of clips of it not working properly

[peak cave]

It’s from a long time ago and not clipped independently

[dense sleet]

unfortunate

[jagged parcel]

Also, side note- ancestors wrath is an amazing skin and I love it lmao

[peak cave]

It’s just

Literally just the Obrez for me

[dense sleet]

thats me with the fuckign krag

i can never seem to hit a head wit hit

[drifting dove]

unique taste

[peak cave]

I gain 100 ego points every time I pull out the Centenary

[drifting dove]

i just wish you could stab with bolts in crossbows and have skins for them

[peak cave]

1 for each prestige

[dense sleet]

the only reason i was going for p100, now i dont really care

[jagged parcel]

XD
Arrow skins could be pretty cool, to be fair.

[dense sleet]

it was literally the only good base mosin skin i liked

now we have the red and black one, and im in love

[dense girder]

@dense sleet . Like, I genuinely don't get your point

[dense sleet]

sorry i didnt see your mdg

one sec

[dense girder]

Yeah no worries

[dense sleet]

but before i read, ill just outright say

qm loadouts ARE better, but 2 2 slots can get near effectiveness

that was my whole point

i DID say that some 2 slots were better than 3s, but i was meaning like comparing the Marathon to the obrez drum is impossible bc the obrez drum is a monster in comparision

[peak cave]

Sometimes, some 3 slot weapons are irreplaceable

[dense sleet]

honestly i find the obrez surpassing base mosin in some pretty significant aspects

they arent terribly different

and having an extra 10 rounds is insane

[peak cave]

More ammo, good

[dense sleet]

but i mean more like

[peak cave]

Obrez in general, I can’t back

[silver wadi]

I got a jar of bullets and it's attatched to my gunnnn neener neener neeener

[dense sleet]

the mv, damage, rof, outright effectiveness? its not a far fetched fight

[dense sleet]

thats because of personal bias tho

not outright stats

please keep that a bit in mind

[peak cave]

Stats don’t make a whole gun though

[dense sleet]

t he obrez drum is the best 2 slot in teh game atm, and it is a fucking monster

[peak cave]

Stats also don’t tell you how bad the irons are