#hunt-general

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serene river
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Sometimes you just gotta treat yo self 🤷

proven raptor
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Hell nah it's absolutely worth it.

serene river
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It's also only 3 pm's. Use the wildland to kill more hunters and get more pledgemarks.
It has a great ROI

proven raptor
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Reminder that it has access to dumdum.

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Last time I picked one it came with HV too.

serene river
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I don't mind the homestead but I'm always a little bummed when I run past all those spiders and it's not a wildland in the box SadHunter

opal dawn
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Wildlands fmj is great

proven raptor
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Wildland is great.

serene river
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is it gonna hang around as a scarce weapon?

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would love to see it fulltime in the arsenal but ngl i'd never use the cent again if it were kept as-is

opal dawn
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I've heard rumors to that extent, but dunno if it's true

deep fog
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I feel they wouldn't spend the time modeling and adding it to iust remove them

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I would suspect they become like, boss lair weapons or sniper tower spawns

deft panther
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Yeah guys they wouldnt spend time modelling something and adjusting damage numbers just to remove it right.... right?

queen shore
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well it was made for malone event and they consider that probably big and special event since its celebrity collab so they wanted to put there something extra, big problem was of course explosive saw and damage adjust but yeah i would like to see taht come back at some point

lusty echo
deft panther
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theres still hope the same thing happens to the silenced maynard

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even though i so rarely see it now

astral moss
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Just make shredder come back as a scarce weapon that you can only loot randomly.

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The only way it will be balance.

deep fog
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Just remove the shredder it wasn't fun and was busted

serene river
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the fact you could hear it 1 compound away was p good balance
after the tweaks noone ran it

deep fog
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Semi homing frag grenades with proximity detonators is something's that belongs in battlefield 2142 not hunt

astral moss
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lol you can hears the Nitro across the map i don't know what it change in the balance of the weapon.

serene river
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not the sound of the it firing

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the buzz from the weapon itself

astral moss
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i think nobody care really, since you can charge it whenever you want anyway.

whole furnace
deep fog
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Yeah

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Theres only a handful that aren't

queen shore
deep fog
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I don't know how they'd add skins for scarce weapons

whole furnace
deep fog
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Hmm

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I guess so

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But that's only true at the moment as the boxes need pledges to open

whole furnace
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Like PUBG doesn't even have the weapons found in locked boxes, they just apply the skins when you pick up the weapon

urban notch
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apex legeds does this

deep fog
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Hm

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Kinda sucks imo as hunt at least has had skin consistency

whole furnace
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But for the sake of immersion, I wouldn't mind if these new weapons are found in crates around the map

deep fog
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Like if a dude drops their pimped out skin you can pick it up

urban notch
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thb im collecting contrabband skins. still looking for the scrapbeak og skin bobmblance

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crazy rare

deep fog
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At one point i had a Centenary, the 100 prestidge mosin skin

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I have the scrapbeak bomblance skin

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Its rare because that event was super bad

queen shore
deep fog
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Luckily they learned their lesson after that one and made the events have less macguffins that force bad gameplay

urban notch
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still waiting for a charm with killcounter

deep fog
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Yoy don't need one

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Just keep some paper by your desk and a pen

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Document each kill

urban notch
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i would grind kills as a personal mission cuz after P100 and 2million in bank i got nothing to do

outer iron
random nimbus
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Good riddance to that thing

mild flower
paper star
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best dlcs to check out?

outer iron
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Neither are shotguns but I cope and persist.

torpid whale
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So they made the lobby so, that the game mode you chose doesn't stay as you want at all anymore. Wack.

whole furnace
random nimbus
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Shotguns didn't bounce off walls and kill people

outer iron
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See the bouncing off the walls is the cool part. And the self-damage risk.

random nimbus
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The wallbouncing was the most frustrating part

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You couldn't be safe anywhere

whole furnace
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I don't think I've heard about anyone doing self damage with that thing

outer iron
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I think it would be a fun return with some rebalancing. peepoEvil

random nimbus
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Revive bolts could be fun with rebalancing too, but they should stay gone

outer iron
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Bloodborne ass weapons like this need a second chance. The bomb lance can't keep sitting all on its lonesome.

whole furnace
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I mean, how can it be meaningfully rebalanced without just not becoming: "Crossbow but better/worse"?

random nimbus
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Maybe letting it pen wood because saw blades?

strong moon
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it doesn't have to be great, it has to be fun. we don't need every weapon to be meta

random nimbus
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The biggest issue is that it was incredibly unfun to deal with.

strong moon
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no bouncing, lower rate of fire, lots of deviation maybe

whole furnace
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Most weapons are point and click affairs

scenic plinth
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yeah but they 'feel' different

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sparks headshot will always feel like the ultimate 'parry this u fuckin casual'

strong moon
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look the sawblade launcher could be worth taking even if it was loud, slow, inaccurate, and made a sound cue that gave you away, if it cut the enemy hunter in half

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you lose twice the health chunks to a down with it

whole furnace
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Dunno if dying to the RNG diviation machine is that much fun

strong moon
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it cuts your head off and your team has to find the head before they can revive you

frigid ibex
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people keep asking for absurd nitro buffs every other day

whole furnace
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There is an interesting design space to have a weapon with a "wide" hurtbox for its shoots, as the blade is wider.
Then also think it would be better if it was balanced around not having retrievable ammo, just bc I don't think a sawblade is gonna be much good after hitting a solid surface like stone and whatnot.

frigid ibex
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My problem with shredder is the fact it got magazine reload and it's spam. Both of them is the problem to me

whole furnace
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For sure

frigid ibex
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In a game where we have slow reloads its weird nobody brings that up and think its natural

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oh we have this turn based gameplay in hunt, you shoot and it takes 1.4's to cycle your gun

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here's a sawblade spammer

whole furnace
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I mean less so nowadays

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But yeah

swift elk
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4 lobbies in a row, afk teammate and 1-2 teams also share compound spawn, love it

frigid ibex
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you can't say less so nowadays, the problematic guns have been here since early access

whole furnace
frigid ibex
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Why are they problematic? They ignore the slow fire-rate rule

whole furnace
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Eyup

heady dove
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I personally like slow fire rate

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the only fps I liked before hunt was a roblox fps called blood and iron

frigid ibex
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Same, it benefits the tactical gameplay of hunt

heady dove
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there are no magazine guns everything is a breech loader

whole furnace
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We had Dennis literally saying: "Dolch is impossible to balance bc it is a modern firearm in a old-timey gun game".

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Or something along those lines

fathom shale
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I think they should rework the shredder into a avtomat variant and bring it back

frigid ibex
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I'd just remove the clip, make it one shot

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not semi auto, not action based, just reload after shooting it

whole furnace
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I mean, they alreayd have the crank and crank animation, they could easily make the Shredder have to crank after every shot.

frigid ibex
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Why?

whole furnace
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To make it a not semi-auto spammer???

frigid ibex
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It will still have repeating fire and a magazine

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it's a sawblade launcher, not a gun

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This concept isn't new, this gun exists in at least 3 other games I can think of that I've played

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and they all made it single shot

whole furnace
frigid ibex
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and they were modern to scifi setting

whole furnace
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Read what I'm writing lol

frigid ibex
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Crank after every shot suggest it's just not semi-auto

fathom shale
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I agree on making it require cranking after each shot

heady dove
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single shot is the occam's razor answer

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and I think its the right one

frigid ibex
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I don't get why it shouldn't just be single shot

whole furnace
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Crank crank crank -> shot -> crank crank crank -> shot -> crank crank crank.

whole furnace
frigid ibex
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No, it shoots sawblades that bounces off hard surfaces

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very different

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also quite loud

whole furnace
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Sawblades, bullets, bolts, doesn't matter that is just different models for hurt boxes.

fathom shale
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Work wise making it single shot requires changing the model as it has the space for multiple saw blades and the reload puts in a stack of them, cranking requires them to just rework the animation and logic

frigid ibex
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so crossbow is just a sparks with a different skin

whole furnace
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Well, yes and no.
There are characteristics to them, but in raw sense, it doesn't matter what kind of projectile model you send down lane, but how they behave.

frigid ibex
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I said it's very different to crossbow because it's unique, it literally boucnes off hard surfaces, nothing else does it

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and the reply I got, sawblades, bullets and bolts don't matter, differen't models

whole furnace
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Sure, but we were talking about that was not really a fun or desirable aspect of the weapon

frigid ibex
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The not desirable aspect of the gun was the homing

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and the frag spam

whole furnace
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So you want non-homing bounces?

frigid ibex
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I don't see the problem

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People only hit that cause it was homing

whole furnace
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Me neither, just need to be clear.

vocal path
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if someone do grifieng qnd team killing and you report them wil they get banned

whole furnace
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But yeah dunno if "loud crossbow with bounce" is gonna be that appealing.

frigid ibex
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They will get punished

vocal path
random nimbus
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To be fair, the bounce will be a pretty huge aspect, especially since explosive crossbow bolts are scarce now

frigid ibex
whole furnace
# vocal path like what

As far I am aware account supension and I guess with repeated offense it might be a perm ban.

whole furnace
frigid ibex
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People want it added, just add it then. Just make it balanced and remove all bullshit, don't take ANY shortcuts

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I hate shortcuts

raven totem
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define shortcut

frigid ibex
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you add it as it is

random nimbus
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The bounce feature

frigid ibex
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but you make it worthless

whole furnace
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It would have too deal more damage, have higher MV or better damage retention.
Which is just more 1-tapper to an already 1-tap heavy meta.

frigid ibex
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The problem with adding something that used to be OP and making it worthless is that

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in 2 years it could suddenly get buffed cause people cry daily that it's useless

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and we're back to the original problem

raven totem
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if re added I'd like to see it on nitro avto performance level

frigid ibex
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I don't want more guns on that level

raven totem
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scarced

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then you should not ask for it to come back in any form honestly

random nimbus
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I truly despise the scarce mechanics tho

frigid ibex
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Rework it

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change the animations, change the textures

random nimbus
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It makes when you do come up against these strong things that much more annoying to me

raven totem
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I like scarce and think they can really expand on it

frigid ibex
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Scarce just feels weird in hunt. The gameplay loop is go to hot area, fight, extract or die. repeat

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Not, looking for towers and scarce weapon spawns

heady dove
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scarce does make the game more like other extraction shooters

random nimbus
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Like, at least when something is prevalent, I can build around it much more effectively. When it just shows up once in a blue moon, it's likely to be much stronger because it's not something to anticipate.

vocal path
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if i prestige will the weapons in my inventory get lost? or when i unlock them fimd em again???

raven totem
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scarce is nice in the face of hunts economy

frigid ibex
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You'll have to reunlock it

vocal path
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but they re not lost so i dont have to sell em before prestige

frigid ibex
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What makes hunt easier to balance than something like Tarkov, is that everyone can have access to everything

raven totem
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pretiging resets money, guns, everything

random nimbus
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I don't think it has any effect on the economy at all

raven totem
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except skins

random nimbus
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The things made scarce were already cheap

frigid ibex
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Scarce just adds that weird, once in a blue moon you could have access to this

raven totem
gusty ore
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anybody else having audio bugs?
also game freezes when rejoining

random nimbus
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And I personally do not like just making it less frequent as a balancing choice.

raven totem
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whole furnace
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Scarce weapons, especially when you introduce them as scarce, is really dangerous for the game (dangerous is too fatalistic of a word, just cannot really word it better in my head rn).
We simple not getting the data quick enough if a weapon is problematic/bad/unfun/underpowered due to the nature of being rare to obtain.
Closest previous example I can think of is when Crytek gave Cenny dum dum the same event where you could be immune to bleed.
Few people intially saw the issue of Cenny dum dum and there were no valuable feedback given, but after the event it became more clear that dum dum on Cenny was a bad idea.

raven totem
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I give up

random nimbus
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Scarcity has no effect on the economy, that's never been the purpose.

raven totem
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no, the economy has power over gun choice, weapons being scarced bypasses that

random nimbus
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That might be true if the things made scarce were the most busted weapons, but they aren't.

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It was the annoying ones.

raven totem
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well as for weapons all we have are ssg and the giga cent

whole furnace
random nimbus
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Wildland is great but are we really gonna act like it would be the top meta pick or destroy the balance of the game if it were a regular weapon pick?

raven totem
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the ssg isn't as good as I thought it would be, idk if it's bugged or balanced that way on purpose, lol cause crytek

random nimbus
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And again, this goes back to what I don't like about scarcity when it comes to balancing a weapon.

raven totem
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aye it's nerf oclock

whole furnace
half torrent
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my game launches on black screen

random nimbus
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This is obviously a more extreme example and I'm not saying anything that is scarce at this moment fits this example, but if you made a weapon that one shots someone at 100m just by clicking the shoot button, it being scarce doesn't make it balanced.

raven totem
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and they didn't do that

random nimbus
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It just means that when you DO run into something like that, it's extremely annoying because it's potentially robbing you with something you can't account for on a regular basis

whole furnace
raven totem
whole furnace
mild flower
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homestead is pretty good in the current meta imo

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if it was a 2 slot it would be even better

whole furnace
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I mean it is double barrel romero.

mild flower
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imagine mosin homestead [auto 4 would still be more broken..]

random nimbus
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Running into dolch fmj less is better than seeing it all the damn time, but it doesn't make dolch fmj any less ridiculous just because you see it less.

whole furnace
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in a shotgun meta

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Biggest issue I have with the Homestead is that it is just "rival but better"

mild flower
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although i dont think scarcity is a full-on replacement for actual balance

random nimbus
mild flower
whole furnace
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So I think if we want scarce weapons, they should be pledgemark depended.
And wouldn't mind if we got a 6-10 different scarce weapons on this powerlevel as the homestead and (less so) wildlands, but only two were in the pool at any given time.

random nimbus
# mild flower you can adapt to its effects.

It's far easier to adapt to something you see frequently because it's in the scope of expectation, at least reasonably. Making it show up less is just a bandaid fix to the problem; shoveling it under the rug and hoping nobody steps on it.

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Dum dum is annoying af, but bloodless shuts it down hard. You're more likely to take bloodless when dum dum is more frequent. Making it scarce on a specific gun just pushes that gun under the rug vs actually balancing it properly, for example.

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And when you DO run into that weapon, it's more annoying because YOU don't have access to it and the chances of you having the counterplay is way less.

spark plaza
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amogus

random nimbus
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sugoma

karmic citrus
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Mogusa

random nimbus
karmic citrus
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There's only one British man named Ramsey on the planet, stop lying

whole furnace
spark plaza
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McCreez, Lerri, and glide in the chat? I must be in old discord hunt

random nimbus
whole furnace
whole furnace
random nimbus
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We need to be viciously arguing and hurling veiled insults at each other.

karmic citrus
whole furnace
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(bc of 4 shot boon now)

random nimbus
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4 shot boon hurts my poison ammo so badly

raven totem
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I wanna run winfeild poison levering

random nimbus
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like, at least taking a trait means you planned for it

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4 shot is just a passive pickup XD

karmic citrus
random nimbus
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That you take for other reasons too XD

karmic citrus
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Pretty sure I got that on like, my fourth ever raid lol

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I was getting jumped by zombies

random nimbus
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Also I just realized, we have no repeating long ammo poison option that's a rifle.

random nimbus
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I doubt anyone would run it, but just something I noticed lol

random nimbus
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It still feels odd seeing fire mosin the few times I do see it

turbid dock
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Long ammo poison lasts 15 seconds fam

karmic citrus
random nimbus
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4 shot boon

turbid dock
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Having that on a repeater would be horrible lol

random nimbus
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Poison has been largely irrelevant for like....ever XD

bronze patrol
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I'm so tired of shotguns is not eve fun

random nimbus
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At least poison ammo specifically

unique trail
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Im puppy sitting today so may not get a chance to hunt

random nimbus
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We also do have the LongMat that can be poison ammo and nobody uses it.

whole furnace
turbid dock
karmic citrus
turbid dock
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High 6* 100m+ rifle headshot meta only

random nimbus
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bronze patrol
random nimbus
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Poison is definitely annoying if you DON'T have those things

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But literally everyone has access to the counterplay to it in game with no changes to their build

karmic citrus
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Nerf every gun into the dirt, bring forth the melee meta

turbid dock
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Poison is in the unfortunate spot where it's completely useless if someone happens to have antidote, but more oppressive than even dum dum if they don't, and that's largely up to chance because you mostly can't know in advance whether someone will have poison or antidote

It's like the old bulwark bomb lance interaction, completely nonsensical that you'd leave counters essentially up to loadout RNG

Either nerf poison ammo and remove all antidote effects from the game, or nerf antidote effects

bronze patrol
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makes no sense antidote makes you completely immune to it tbh

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it's the only counter that completely negates the mechanic

turbid dock
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Yep

random nimbus
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I don't think poison would become a big issue even without the antidote effects. It's extremely limited in scope with a lot of counterplay outside of even the immunity

bronze patrol
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that's fine imo

raven totem
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whats more funny is the fear of people having antidote stops people frm running poison which stops people from running antidote

bronze patrol
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being able to be outright immune to it is not

random nimbus
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The biggest being you have 0 pen whatsoever

whole furnace
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LeMat goes from 375m/s to 460m/s when it becomes a Carbine. That is a gain of 85m/s.
Officer goes from 330m/s to 360m/s when it becomes a Carbine. That is a gain of 30m/s.
Officer C clearly needs a MV buff! :V

raven totem
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dolch carbine you heard it from mcrees lips first

random nimbus
bronze patrol
random nimbus
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And now nobody needs antidote because 4 shot boon exists and is everywhere

raven totem
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ye

random nimbus
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Like, I love the convenience of it but wow I think it was a mistake

karmic citrus
random nimbus
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Find a cart. have 4 shot? Nope? Alright to the next

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Get to Bileweaver lair, grab 4shot

whole furnace
random nimbus
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Random tower. Got 4 shot? Nope, moving on.

karmic citrus
random nimbus
whole furnace
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Also yeah, prestiging makes these event kinda tough.
Everyone and their mother is boon'ing them up while I try to save my marks for Hunter EXP :')

karmic citrus
bronze patrol
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gets me far more kills than it should

random nimbus
karmic citrus
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karmic citrus
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I've died to spiders more times then I'd like to admit..

random nimbus
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I do miss when pain sense was Poison Sense only

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Not just because I don't want to buff burn and bleed, but also because it was 1 point instead of 3

deep fog
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Poison seems just inferior fire

random nimbus
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They do different things

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Fire is countered by medkits like bleed is

karmic citrus
random nimbus
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Poison is for antihealing to make pushes easier

karmic citrus
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I should start running poison in my sparks pistol

deep fog
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Because fire lets you hear where they are more easily to push em for the follow-up and it stops healing for like 8 seconds as they have to put the fire out first

random nimbus
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Medkits shorted that time considerably

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Just like they do against bleed

deep fog
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Do medkits put fire out?

random nimbus
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Yes

deep fog
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Aha fuck o

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Ok

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Ive played for nearly 2000 hours and never once thought to try

karmic citrus
random nimbus
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Medkits have insane value

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Which just goes through the roof with another busted af trait: Surefoot

deep fog
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I knew they put bleed out, makes aense

karmic citrus
turbid dock
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I don't really feel like medkits are worth it over the other tools you can take instead, like the spyglass

deep fog
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Yeah

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karmic citrus
tidal haven
deep fog
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However ngl i take fusees or a flaregun over choke bombs these days

turbid dock
deep fog
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So i can take bear traps

karmic citrus
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I'm not gonna lie, I've been baited by blank decoys a few times

turbid dock
deep fog
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Decoys are honestly amazing for building checks

karmic citrus
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I threw a big dynamite at nothing 😭

deep fog
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If you think someone is in a building just chuck one in and they'll scatter without giving away to the map you're there

random nimbus
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I've stopped taking chokes on a build that doesn't have a shotgun on it already

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Because I take pennyringer

karmic citrus
turbid dock
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nah that would probably be too good

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imagine that spyglass on like

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a mosin with spitzer?

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would be busted

karmic citrus
turbid dock
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You know what we really need?

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The Knuckleglass

deep fog
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Spyglass throwing knife when

whole furnace
random nimbus
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Oh god

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I forgot that PoS existed

deep fog
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What isbthe point of the stubby mosin

turbid dock
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cheap

random nimbus
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Nothing.

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Literally nothing.

deep fog
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I thought it was 2 slot originally giving it a point

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Better stab than obrez basicslly

karmic citrus
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Aperture sights

deep fog
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Then i look and its goddamn 3 slot and the same price as the berthier

mild flower
random nimbus
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There's no reason to take the defective waste of effort that thing is over the Berthier

turbid dock
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i mean

deep fog
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Which gets more ammo and gets the riposte bayone

turbid dock
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we can talk shit about it

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but its still a clip fed long ammo repeater

random nimbus
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The objective worst one

turbid dock
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oh noooo

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the worst long ammo repeater !!!

random nimbus
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By a large margin too

turbid dock
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the worst nuclear bomb !!!

mild flower
random nimbus
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It's not even close in strength to the competition it's trying to be involved with

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pseudo yoke
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How long does it take to averagely reach LVL 100

mild flower
whole furnace
deep fog
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Lmao

whole furnace
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Like literally, it is so maddening to me trying to figure out what the fuck Crytek meant with the Carbine comment

turbid dock
random nimbus
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A way to nerf the obrez

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Which did need a nerf, imo

deep fog
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Obrez is good but its not that good surely

karmic citrus
deep fog
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Like it lost a lot when they nerfed all shorty weapons across the board

pseudo yoke
random nimbus
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The 25 bullet count of the Obrez drum is still ridiculous imo

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Like, WHY

deep fog
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Bethier gets 21

random nimbus
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You took away any reason to run the regular obrez or the mace

random nimbus
deep fog
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Nah mace whips

mild flower
pseudo yoke
karmic citrus
deep fog
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Like 3 years ago

random nimbus
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Ain't no damn way those guns should have more ammo than the sparks

turbid dock
random nimbus
deep fog
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Previously all shorty weapons had the same stats as the base guns minus stability and muzzle velocity

random nimbus
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Obrez had 3 less damage

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It did 133

deep fog
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They changed them to have a quicker dmg dropoff and base dmg too

random nimbus
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Now it has 126, same as Krag

turbid dock
whole furnace
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These changes go hand-in-hand with a rebalance of the Berthier and Mosin Obrez and allows slotting the new Mosin Obrez Match and Sharpeye into the Long Ammo category. The Berthier will now be the strongest of the Carbines, while the base Obrez will be the weakest. We want to position these Carbines as more viable alternatives to the full-size, Long Ammo, bolt-action rifles, such as the Krag, Lebel, and Mosin Nagant.
But like... What about the gun Carbines? Are they Carbines? What about the Vetterli Carbine?! THE 1865 CARBINE!? What are those Crytek?! PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME!!

random nimbus
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Mini versions had the same damage falloff

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They were rifles and kept the same rifle stats

mild flower
deep fog
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Yeah

random nimbus
turbid dock
whole furnace
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Also sure berthy got buffed to be the strongest cabine (whatever that its), but like... it is also now the second strongest long ammo among the lebel

turbid dock
#

there's no real reason to distinguish between carbines and rifles as it pertains to gameplay, as far as hunt is concerned the difference is purely visual lmao

deep fog
#

I would probably take the berthier over any other long ammo gun rn

random nimbus
#

Like, tf?

whole furnace
turbid dock
#

it IS its own thing

whole furnace
#

With their own upsides and downsides

turbid dock
#

it just has no real in-game meaning

deep fog
#

Lebel has faster bullets though doesn't it?

karmic citrus
random nimbus
#

Lebel is 630ms and berthier is 590ms

frigid ibex
#

Martini Henry

turbid dock
#

its a category for the sake of having a category, a category that isn't reflected in-game in any other way than a visually shorter barrel and a loosely related pool of stats

deep fog
#

Lebel doesn't get spitzer either does it

random nimbus
#

They both get spitzer

frigid ibex
#

It does

deep fog
#

Oh

random nimbus
#

Onlyl long ammo repeaters without spitzer are Mako and Krag

frigid ibex
#

Berthier uses same caliber

deep fog
#

Oh right the bullets have the anti-primer strike thing dont they

turbid dock
random nimbus
#

Not just caliber, the same EXACT bullet

whole furnace
random nimbus
frigid ibex
#

Lebel is cool, only cool people play lebel

turbid dock
#

how can you call yourself long-ammo lerii when you don't even love all long ammo rifles equally?

random nimbus
#

The ironside is an anomaly

karmic citrus
random nimbus
frigid ibex
#

I think they are trying to add classifications. Look at the ranged tool changes

#

They mention similar stuff there

whole furnace
random nimbus
#

When I want all long ammo repeaters to do less than 125 damage, the Ironside is staring me in the face going '...yo I'm not a repeater, right?'

frigid ibex
#

People just run spear anyway

turbid dock
karmic citrus
#

It'd make more sense if larger guns made you slower, carbines made you run normal speed, while short variants made you faster

random nimbus
whole furnace
turbid dock
#

you see, it has a slow MV, so its not viable in hunt showdown, the game where fights are exclusively headshot fishing comeptitions at 100m+ ranges

random nimbus
#

And I like that the Ironside was by no means displaced by Fast Fingers on the Martini

frigid ibex
turbid dock
#

Fuck it, here's my suggestion for balancing hunt: bullets now despawn at 60 meters

#

fuck you, the game is better now

whole furnace
turbid dock
#

hell yeah

karmic citrus
random nimbus
#

Hear me out: a weapon like the Digger from Gears of War

turbid dock
whole furnace
karmic citrus
#

Just add a fat man already

#

We need a mini nuke launcher

random nimbus
#

Add killstreaks

karmic citrus
random nimbus
#

Battlefield dissapointed me by not adding them

karmic citrus
#

(I can barely tell if a person is a bush or not)

random nimbus
karmic citrus
frigid ibex
#

Ok hop on lerii (I'm work)

random nimbus
#

Holy shit I took my glasses off and I can't see a DAMN thing on my monitor....

karmic citrus
#

Lmao

random nimbus
#

How did I play for years like this????

#

Wtf was I seeing??

karmic citrus
random nimbus
turbid dock
random nimbus
turbid dock
#

i could probably play without my glasses

random nimbus
#

I have total trex vision

frigid ibex
#

You're more blind because of glasses. Don't use eye sight corrections again

whole furnace
# karmic citrus My amazing super good vision obviously

My big brain conspiracy theory is that Crytek didn't intend for scopes originally, which a lot of long ammo was initially balanced around.
Moreso that is a reason why we got so many graphical downgrades in the yearly years are bc with scopes, the game now had to render detail further away when people scope.

turbid dock
#

as long as i have my headphones on i'll still know where all the nerds are

random nimbus
#

Oh I can hear everything

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But seeing? nah, people spectating me notice people before I do XD

frigid ibex
random nimbus
turbid dock
random nimbus
#

My vision isn't that bad

#

It's actually mostly astigmatism

karmic citrus
#

There was no hunt showdown in the stone age though :(

turbid dock
#

mine isn't either, like -1.5 ish

random nimbus
#

Which I have pretty badly

frigid ibex
#

Same. I just can't see anything

karmic citrus
#

Look at y'all. Needing glasses

random nimbus
#

I tried contacts but they bothered the hell out of me

turbid dock
#

i wonder what the correlation between being a pc gamer and having completely fucked up eyesight is

random nimbus
#

They were weighted ones and they would rotate all the time and Itch

frigid ibex
#

Nah I don't need glasses. Just wanted to be included

random nimbus
turbid dock
#

same but surely staring at this monitor for hours can't help lmao

karmic citrus
random nimbus
#

My sister can't drive without glasses and is near colorblind in one eye from her teenage years

frigid ibex
turbid dock
random nimbus
#

Believe it or not, driving in bright daylight is really bad for your eye health

karmic citrus
random nimbus
#

Staring at the hot blacktop and reflected sunlight on people's cars slowly burns your eyes

turbid dock
left orbit
#

imagine if the game stopped stuttering right when someone starts shooting in my face with a shotgun

karmic citrus
frigid ibex
#

Ok I gotta leave. I'm gonna be late for my second shift

random nimbus
turbid dock
frigid ibex
#

Hop on

karmic citrus
random nimbus
#

Plus my glasses are transitions so they darken for me. I also wear a hat outside

turbid dock
#

i just rawdog the sun

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(we don't have any sun here)

random nimbus
#

I live in the Southeastern US where it's sunlight ALL the time x.x

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Now that I think about it, I'm 3 years overdue for a new eye exam

#

Been using the same glasses for 3 years

frigid ibex
left orbit
#

watching the sun dead in the eye

dense sleet
#

or be a chad and enjoy the night and the rain

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i love sitting outside in the rain, especially at night, listening to the thunder growling and the lightning cracking with flashes of white light

#

oh god its the best

runic lintel
#

first time hunt in 3 months xD

serene river
#

bring back ash bloom

remote moss
#

bring back inferno

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i dont want poor visibility, i want forced routes that are super easy to angle hold against

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and no audio so they cant react accordingly

left orbit
frank ember
#

when start the halloween event?

mild flower
#

Reminds me of those movie scenes where a car passes by then someone appears behind it

Just with a tree instead

dense sleet
#

if you mean the Weaver event, that would be Monday the 20th

untold stag
#

We should normalize wearing goggles 😳

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Less sunglasses more goggles

#

I got prescribed goggles 🥸

atomic coral
frank ember
#

ohhhhh nooo n where is the fire map

tame magnet
crisp notch
#

Is the dynamic weather new? I don’t remember it ever going from pissing rain to sunny before lol

dense sleet
#

there is no dynamic weather

fathom shale
#

Rain always swapped between light rain and heavy rain mid match

dense sleet
#

but that is not dynamic

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its a timer

fathom shale
#

Who cares, still what they asked

left orbit
#

yay 7 minutes solo walking through the entire map from corner to corner only to take a bow headshot from a duo camping in a tower.

#

love

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rats

#

now watching hoping they get shredded

left orbit
#

timer or not that’s an "implementation detail"

dense sleet
crisp notch
#

I havent played in a minute so i forgot, i thought it was cool anyway lol

dense sleet
#

stages that switch between each other on a set timer are not what i would dynamic

#

its still rain

left orbit
#

isn’t it just cloudy then rainy?

dense sleet
#

its light rain, then heavier rain with a fog filter

#

still rain

left orbit
#

a dynamic type of rain. i'm fine calling that dynamic

dense sleet
#

each their own i gues

left orbit
#

the conditions change enough to be quite vastly different

dense sleet
#

i call it just in general rain

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and its set timer, so it wont have different timings

deep fog
#

Is it a strict timer

#

I feel like it has some variability

dense sleet
#

heavy rain is a set timer

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iirc its 3 minutes

#

it could be lower tho, i know theyve adjusted the timer a couple times

fathom shale
#

The real question is, does this really matter? Even if it works on a timer, to the player it's perceived as dynamic since it's a smooth transition that can happen out of nowhere in the middle of the fight that affects how well you hear, spooks off crows, affects how fire behaves when burning bodies etc.

dense sleet
#

adn like i said

#

i wouldnt call that dynamic, but we must have different definitions which si fine

fathom shale
#

Just because it's not simulated based on temperature or other factors that are not necessary in Hunt, doesn't mean it's no dynamic to the player perspective

dense sleet
#

tarkov i would consider dynamic

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it can go from full sun, to cloudy, to rain in the same raid

#

albeit even that one isnt perfect

left orbit
#

make night dynamic that goes into sunrise

#

coz fek night

frank ember
left orbit
#

dis rock doing a weird face to me

frank ember
#

u didnt like the fire maps? or?

#

because i miss that

left orbit
#

i think DrunkBatman means that the map isn't there anymore because it was just for an event 2 years ago and hasn’t returned since then

#

but the alcoholized bat man shall speak

deep fog
#

The fire map was fun

#

But the traits in thdt event wete uh

#

Somewhat questionable

dense sleet
#

somewhat questionable is indeed a statement to describe blazeborn

simple marlin
#

Just picked up a pre conversion vetterli cool

deep fog
#

woo

#

very nice

south shore
simple marlin
#

$350, though I do need to give it little love with the cleaning

crisp notch
#

Beauty, I’ve been wanting one for forever lol

pure wasp
karmic citrus
void pilot
#

Hey everyone, Im looking for some friends to play this new update with. Im not the best at the game but I enjoy playing it. I have just over 80 Hours in and Im still getting used to playing on PC. If anyone is interested in playing to have fun then Id be happy to have some people to get into some games with! Thanks for your time!

graceful hedgeBOT
dense sleet
#

could try here, although i would be forthcoming in your posts and when joining posts especially that you are a new player

#

some people might not enjoy/be in hte particular mood for teaching a new player

deep fog
#

80 hrs isnt that new

#

But yeah just use the lfg channels, remember people you find on there who you like and team up again later

dense sleet
#

80 hours is still VERY new

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i would wager thats just really starting to learn compounds to a decent margain, learning audio, and learning gun shot sounds

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hell, crytek THEMSELVES said you are a new player till what was it? 500 hours? and i wouldnt say new but i would say learning is more accurate

unreal zinc
#

yeah

south shore
#

Thats a steal

pure wasp
#

however great all rounder

south shore
#

I want onr

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To shoot

dreamy cave
#

How much is the ammo? Lol thats where they get you loo

worn oak
#

@grave rose
Done. 🍻
Lost him 4 times. This is the 5th clone. HuntChad

urban notch
#

Clone ShowDown

gleaming junco
#

Could the Hunt devs please just quietly confirm that the zombies mode in War of Rights is Hunts prequel

#

like. c'mon.

...please..

stoic pendant
#

Broo my pc being slow I want to play the best game ever LEAGUE OF LEGENDS 😢

dense sleet
#

fair enough diiba lol

fathom shale
#

Deleted your msg assuming you didn't want to look like you were talking to yourself fyi, not because you did anything wrong 😄

dense sleet
#

didnt bother me none

#

i just assumed it was to scrap that whole interaction

jolly canyon
dense sleet
#

voodoo time travel

#

crazier things have happened

dense sleet
#

pick

#

for me to play, i trust your judgement

torpid spruce
#

is eu servers shitting right now for you guys too?

patent tusk
formal juniper
#

Guys how can I get Welder skin? Was he event exclusive? Can't find him in the store

urban notch
#

yes he was

dense sleet
trim shard
#

Playing hunt while having this as my background🥹

dense sleet
#

one day i wanna see the Aurora Borealis

#

not just from photos, in person

south shore
paper anvil
#

Is using big-small-small-big health chunks a good choice ?

paper anvil
#

Best i've been getting lately is desalle weather irl 🥀

#

Foggy desalle

trim shard
uncut flower
trim shard
#

It got kinda pinkish now🥹

deep fog
#

very cool

dense sleet
deep fog
#

we get the aurora here in the UK like, once a year maybe

#

but it's so poorly advertized and transient you'd have to sit up all night when there is high activity to see it

dense sleet
#

and honestly, it doesnt matter about getting rezzed bc yo udie to all long ammo rifles anyways with a bar gone even with resil within 40m so its for after the hail mary rez

dense sleet
gusty ore
#

does bounbty clash effect ranking mmr?

tall canopy
gusty ore
#

yeah but what is it how does it show?

tall canopy
#

idk 😄

gusty ore
#

😐

dense sleet
#

when you play Bounty clahs and do the team details

#

it shows your clash mmr

gusty ore
#

aight

dreamy cave
#

Hive in the moon light

#

lol im clean out my pc and found this

sick bramble
dense girder
spice reef
#

US east servers dying for anyone else?

crisp notch
#

i had a couple lag spikes last night but other than that the 3 games I had today were fine

tight mirage
#

Is there lag on the European server?

#

Or is my internet the problem?

tall canopy
#

if there were bigger problems many players would ask here, since u r the only one i dont think there are bigger problems rn

tight mirage
jolly night
#

is here a clip channel?

tight mirage
#

Yes, my internet connection also has packet loss.

tall canopy
jolly night
#

ty

full jungle
#

Game is peak

random nimbus
#

The fire and explosives interaction is so odd

hasty wharf
#

yeah it was perfectly fine before, where it just sped up the fuse

random nimbus
#

I killed a guy with a BDB and it blows up a lantern and starts a fire. My teammate throws a dynamite stick that kills me and the last guy, but it counted as my kill and my suicide despite me not throwing it.

#

I guess because I started the fire that made the dynamite blow up early it gave me the kill?

frigid ibex
#

eternal darkness

crisp notch
#

TIL how the fuze mechanic works the hard way lol

cooking dynamite stick

"huh thats odd why is the range getting shor-"

outer iron
#

Stalker 2 was undercooked as fuck. Waste of money.

frigid ibex
#

Took me a while to realise that

crisp notch
#

yeah I figured that out when it blew up in my face 😅

frigid ibex
#

Now whats left is touching a fire source mid throw that kills you

quick smelt
#

ALGUÉM TEM LA VACA DE ABÓBORA???? P V

frigid ibex
#

Keep it in english

full jungle
#

I’ve always kinda just thought it meant it was gonna hit something yellownooo

turbid dock
#

I've decided i don't like extraction shooters

dense sleet
# full jungle Game is peak

I'll say its better now for sure, I do wish it had more polish in its AI but I stopped playing a month after it released and its been fucking cooking with updates

turbid dock
#

I'll stick to hunt

dense sleet
#

At release it was certainly rough, in many many areas

#

some of which not quite fixed yet... a life ahem

dense sleet
#

Im just happy we got the game, and its getting constant updates and support

#

Fat seagull I think?

scenic plinth
#

ring billed gull

icy elbow
#

who’re you callin fat

drifting dove
#

cash registers are supposed to be in every location right?

random nimbus
#

I've seen Bileweavers nest not have them a few times

drifting dove
#

im trynna search for golden ones but fuck me this game made normal ones rare

wicked marlin
#

trying out arc raiders, anyone has it installed and wants to join? dm me

crisp notch
#

3 bomb lances in a row bro

#

I suffer

crisp notch
#

one guy was sick with it, he threw it and hit me as I jumped between buildings at the fort a la enemy at the gates

copper pawn
#

and I'm getting bows every single match

#

"fAiR 150 DmG tO tHe aRm"

crisp notch
#

thats one weapon i'd love to be great with

#

but ican never hit anything lol

dense sleet
scenic plinth
#

thats actually what the seagull is

turbid dock
dense sleet
#

Good to know

turbid dock
#

What are you, some kind of bird identifying machine?

scenic plinth
#

i live at the beach, lots of seagulls of all sorts

dense sleet
#

I dont live at a beach, but I live in a state with lots of water

#

Mainly 3 pretty big lakes near where I took that, so I guess it was a LakeGull and not a Seagull

dense sleet
outer iron
#

Wipe out three whole teams. We suddenly get head tapped in sequence. Random 6 star solo. Keep these people out of our 3 mmr games.

fervent kite
deep ginkgo
#

Arc raiders open beta is so fun wtf

turbid dock
#

most of the game is cool but the fortnite ass combat ruins it for me

deep ginkgo
turbid dock
#

nono there's so much more than that

tall canopy
random nimbus
#

Ngl, some people just don't know how to fight something like a drilling dum dum

#

My teammates were getting farmed fighting one in the open at Slaughterhouse and ignoring me telling them over and over to fight with the fences or just push together.

#

I got him but WOW I can see how people got messed up by dum dum back when it was everywhere with the Centennial.

dense sleet
#

Im waiting more for Hunger and Beautiful Light Personally

#

I probably wont be buying Arc, its initial intrigue lost me bc of a couple factors and honestly the 3PP camera was a major one, I dont think 3PP gunfights are fun

heavy finch
empty rivet
#

Maybe he has no friends so has to say it here

deep ginkgo
heavy finch
deep ginkgo
tall canopy
#

stay respectfull. yes xav told us a few times how good he thinks arc raiders is and they can do that in #off-topic, no need to blame them if they keep it in #off-topic (:

heavy finch
#

14 pages of messages and you still have messages about arc

#

you are definetly advertising..

deep ginkgo
heavy finch
#

Youre still advertising

#

should get banned.

#

not even sure youre a real human

deep ginkgo
velvet agate
#

Nah

deep ginkgo
velvet agate
#

I dont think he got paid to do anything

shell geode
#

Yeah, if you want to talk in depth about arc it would probably be best to take it to off topic

#

it's cool to talk about stuff briefly in here but we do want this channel to mainly stay about hunt itself

velvet agate
#

You love the game, good for you, but the rest of us here, we DONT CARE

deep ginkgo
velvet agate
#

About

#

Hunt Showdown

shell geode
#

Let's keep it respectful.

tall canopy
spark plaza
#

Hunt mid down vs mid raiders, who wins fellaa

velvet agate
crystal bay
#

Everyone has things they enjoy, and they enjoy talking about it

#

We don't need to turn it into an insult on either side of it, so we can just respectfully move on

copper jasper
#

sososo real i would talk more but im just anxious

tame magnet
crystal bay
crystal bay
tame magnet
#

Not that nice of a friend but a friend

crystal bay
#

You hate to see it

#

but that's fair

tame magnet
#

I’ll still dm you secretly about my love for you tho

crystal bay
#

It's okay I'm washed right now

#

I've forgotten what the headshot sound sounsd like

#

sounds*

tame magnet
#

Pew

crystal bay
#

Nuh uh

tame magnet
#

How would you know, you forgot

crystal bay
#

Frick

#

You right

copper jasper
#

but oh well ill get there eventually

crystal bay
#

Plenty of friendly gamers here, it's where I've met most of my hunt friends

#

Takes time though

tame magnet
#

Am I hunt friend or a friend 💔

copper jasper
#

yeee i met a few too but they were quite mean to me unfortunatel

copper jasper
tame magnet
#

Let’s go!!!!

copper jasper
#

i need to stop playing solo hunt against trios lol

tame magnet
#

Keep going

#

You’re gonna win I know it

copper jasper
#

im so bad </3

tame magnet
#

That’s how we get better

copper jasper
#

ive got almost 600 hours and my kda uh

crystal bay
#

Solos vs trios is tough

copper jasper
#

hold on

crystal bay
#

KDA is unimportant

#

all that matters is the slaughter

#

or if you're enjoying yourself

tame magnet
#

If you have fun, KDA is nothing

copper jasper
#

i have fun but i gotta admit these stats make me look so ass lol

crystal bay
#

Nah not bad at all

copper jasper
#

but i have fun i try play fair and keep people involved

crystal bay
#

Especially if you're just playing solo

#

I have a "2.0" KDA

copper jasper
#

ty :) i used to play with friends now its this

#

HOLY

crystal bay
#

but that's because assists count towards that and I play with friends

#

so it's easier for the number to go up then having to get all those kills myself

copper jasper
#

yeah i used to play with friends but im in europe and theyre in usa sothe ping was ASTRONOMICAL and hunt was one of my first ever video games too lol

#

ive only been playing games for like 3 years so i am a little proud of myself

tame magnet
crystal bay
#

And trust me, a good KDA doesn't stop you from getting on top of a roof like an idiot and dying like one too lol

copper jasper
crystal bay
#

It's all about your enjoyment

copper jasper
#

i love picking the worst spots tho its so fun

heavy finch
#

yea. we play hunt showdown. Not in here trying to recruit friends for arc omegalul

copper jasper
#

i will stand in the middle of the feild and fight against a trio like a dummy

#

its so nice to see this small revamp tho my motivation is so back

spark plaza
copper jasper
copper jasper
crystal bay
#

XD

#

I should maybe return to normal for now

#

It's devolved

copper jasper
#

thats so real

#

ugh i gotta do some halloween art for the game i havent done hunt fanart in fiveever

crystal bay
#

Halloween Hunt art goes hard

#

It's fits so well into the game

copper jasper
#

i know righttt

#

i especially adore hayali though lol idk what it is w me n him

#

from his trailer i headcanoned him in my head as one of those 3am youtube pranksters just because he says thanks for watching , so i have a bunch of doodles of him just single braincelled

crystal bay
#

XD, I mean hey

#

There's lore to it, but we all have different narratives of the various hunters in our head

copper jasper
#

there is lore but my brain just cant fit it to hayalis face for some reason lol

#

my absoloute fav hunter tho forever n ever

#

whats your favourite hunter?

tame magnet
crystal bay
#

At the moment I say I am a good revive

#

You just take too long HUL

copper jasper
#

wish me luck friends im gonna try to keep on goin

shell geode
#

His scorched earth chapters were fantastic

copper jasper
#

i really shold catch up on his lore lol

shell geode
#

Him just kinda vibing and trying not to get killed

#

Ultimate “yes and” attitude

copper jasper
#

thats so real of him

#

i feel like his personality is somewhat similar to that of jiraiyas from naruto wild comparison but thats just what i see in my head

#

i am probably mischaracterising hayali so bad

#

but idk thats my little image of him

shell geode
#

Hunt characters are dress up dolls in a lot of ways so

#

You haven’t seen me painting silver spur as the most beautiful man in the world yet lmao

copper jasper
#

when silver spur came out i was genuinely crazy about him

#

didnt get around to drawing the old amn tho

#

my taste in hunt mean is silver spur , hayali and skull taker i think thats what hes called i dont remmeber

strong moon
#

Hunt 2 should let us customize our occult cowboys

full jungle
#

Them adding in mod support was such a good idea

shell geode
#

It’s eternally funny to me how he’s meant to be this sick old man but the lighting smooths out a lot of his roughness sometimes and also they gave him incredibly long eyelashes for some reason

copper jasper
#

that is so awesome tho tbh

shell geode
#

real

copper jasper
#

i really wanna draw some of the hunters as if theyre gacha pulls from like an anime game tbh

shell geode
#

omg I'm so in support of that

#

a few years back I did a bunch of hunters as pokemon trainers

copper jasper
#

OH MY GOD WHATTTTTTTTT

#

oyou gotta send me the art i love pokemon lo;

shell geode
#

haha for sure let me go find the files

#

Surprised I never did the phantom bc I love him

copper jasper
#

i aspire to have that creativity

shell geode
#

💖 💖 💖

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but god yeah I need to see the gatcha art hunters

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100% you need to draw that

copper jasper
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i need to think of the rating for them lol

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I SHALL!

shell geode
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six star special paired unit of lulu and sofia because they cannot be separated

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lmao

copper jasper
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i rarely ever see lulu :(

shell geode
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yeah she's a little rarer due to twitch drop stuff

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I started playing a few months before her twitch drop so luckily I managed to snag her the first ti me

copper jasper
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awe mannn

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i wish i couldve gotten her

shell geode
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you've got a chance here soon!

copper jasper
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at the time when she was introduced i was playing on the worst laptop ever

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OMG

shell geode
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twitch drops are starting here shortly and there's a twitch drop hunter day

copper jasper
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i will definitely be fiending to get some

trim shard
shell geode
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omg I wouldn't be able to handle it

crystal bay
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It's already about to start being dark here early once we go back an hour sadblob

crystal bay
copper jasper
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ah

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no sunlight for me would be perfect i burn so easy

onyx breach
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I pulled a funny bit

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I chased someone with a machtie while on fire

mighty meadow
copper jasper
onyx breach
wicked fox
tender jungle
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US east giga lagging?

frigid ibex
sick saddle
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Anyone playing with 5060 Ti 8GB, 1440p resolution? I'm looking to get a new GPU and wondered the FPS I'll get on Medium settings

dawn mantle
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bruh I want a refund on that death

quick smelt
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Trade tacorita de 180m e brps de 24m P V

dawn mantle
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Shoot mosin, rebolt, aim in, die

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I necro and die again because "Fuck you do it again. Oh you have adrenaline? Too bad I'm not letting you run either."

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I fucking perfectly timed the revive and the game fucked me

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Doesn't help that there seems to be some weird lag with registering shots today

dense sleet
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Date for my LoTR Tattoo Sleeve confirmed! Fucking hell tho. 1500 bucks and he speculates a 14 hour session

fervent aurora
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Is there a way to disable auto-equip on loot, this is driving me batty

icy elbow
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I’m not exactly sure where in settings though but there is a way

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maybe under game?

fervent aurora
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i'll check around some more thx, this was a change? bc i don't recall it doing this in the past

dawn mantle
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you can disable weapons, tools, and consumables individually

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So if you want to swap to a gun you pick up, but not to tools or consumables you can set it that way

fervent aurora
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bam ty so much, i def didn't like that

atomic coral
# dawn mantle Settings > Game > Auto Select

Yeah that was so annoying when they added it, becasue I use throwing axes almost every game and have a numpad mouse to quickly swap weapons. I don't want to switch back to my axes after I equipped my gun.

dawn mantle
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Autoselect actually saved me in one case

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Almost dead, whiffed an axe throw on a dog, managed to dodge as I ran passed, picked up the axe, turned and meleed the dog with it

atomic coral
lunar latch
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im so tired of this game

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How do you make it fun

dawn mantle
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they sit between throwing knives and spears

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Knives are weak but 6 uses, spear is strong but a single use, axes are 2 use and are fairly strong

atomic coral
# dawn mantle Theres throwing axes

OH ok by axe you meant throwing axe. Yeah literally just said I use throwing axes almost every game.
Also knives have 8 uses now, axes have 3 since March.

dreamy cave
dawn mantle
dreamy cave
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8 extra OHK in your pocket

dawn mantle
dreamy cave
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lol

dawn mantle
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you know what I want

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A "buy random traits" button.

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Just spend my 10 points at random I really don't care

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Half the time I forget to even get any

mild flower
dawn mantle
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again, have not used either in a LONG time

mild flower
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4 and 9 with fm

dawn mantle
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That's overkill at that point

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although now that I think about it I may have been missing out

mild flower
dawn mantle
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I've never even considered using fm because, well, I used to rarely use tools, but I've started bringing a lot of traps now and I'm now realizing just how much better fm makes my loadout

mild flower
dawn mantle
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In any case, I'm trying to level the mosin obrez