#hunt-general

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wintry ferry
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Tbh if there were other games that scratch the specific western itch and gun mechanics of Hunt I would've dropped Hunt ngl

astral moss
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Crouch walking in general lol

outer cloak
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Not to bash hunt tho it's pretty good at doing what it aims at the end of the day

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Devs just lack transparency to the level of ea basically

left prairie
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LeMat Carbine?

mild flower
left prairie
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its in the game

mild flower
left prairie
mild flower
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it's very good

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[for a compact ammo gun at least]

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one of my favourite weapons

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put fmj on it and you get penetration better than long ammo and still have pretty good muzzle velocity

outer cloak
wintry ferry
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Gun mechanics though

outer cloak
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(minus those funky as fuck armor animations. God I hope they fix those)

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I literally just said not the western but the aesthetic;-;

wintry ferry
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Hunt hit a specific frame of time where you have RoF that's not fast enough to gun people down but fast enough to reward follow up precision or whatever

raven totem
wintry ferry
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So you have stuff like Sparks + Follow up

outer cloak
raven totem
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from what I've seen of hunger I think the devs are underestimating good shots

mild flower
outer cloak
raven totem
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you also shoot like a fucking lazer beam in it

outer cloak
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Psychoghost FUCKED up that trio without melee

outer cloak
astral moss
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Melee look more rewarding and its a good thing.

outer cloak
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Down*

raven totem
mild flower
astral moss
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Like the 2 character that are melee centred have actually really strong comp.

mild flower
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hunger is a hero shooter?

outer cloak
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Hunt severely struggles from good game bad devs. I pray hunger doesn't suffer the same

astral moss
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Its more like an extract shooter with rpg mecanic.

astral moss
outer cloak
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Yes

astral moss
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Maybe ask yourself why you struggle this much.

outer cloak
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I'm 6 star solo player

astral moss
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Cause i don't think its actually the game fault.

outer cloak
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I haven't died in like

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16 matches

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I'm the rattest of rats mate

astral moss
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And me 37, but what's the deal here ?

outer cloak
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I just said good game.

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At the end of the day I Love hunt for all it is even if I don't agree with certain mechanics

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I genuinely do not care for the devs tho

frigid ibex
astral moss
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Hunt is a great game.

frigid ibex
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It deals high damage

outer cloak
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They consistently say shit. Never do it, and pray that we forget as they never mention it again

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And add random as fuck shins like every 2 weeks - month

frigid kestrel
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“The kid” is based of the billy the kid right?

frigid kestrel
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Thanks

astral moss
frigid ibex
frigid kestrel
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Its like 2 heads

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And 1 head and 2 bodies shot

outer cloak
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I think the right melee build with weapon lets you 2 swing full armor tho

frigid kestrel
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Was most of his kills

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Mind you they didnt have the absolute best armor too

astral moss
frigid ibex
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I hate armor in shooters

frigid kestrel
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Your telling me.

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One shot head shot please

astral moss
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there isn't that in hunger i think.

frigid kestrel
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There isnt

frigid ibex
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2 is fine. If it's 2 shots for everybody and not one guy with good loot that requires 5 headshots

frigid kestrel
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Its 2 shot for most if im correct

astral moss
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or maybe without armor with specific weapon.

frigid ibex
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The first trailer showed head armor that reduced headshot damage

outer cloak
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Also everyone tries not to compare the two or says not to...

It's literally only fucking hunt streamers that have gameplay videos and it's closest cousin in the genre for pacing and similar gameplay is... Hunt

astral moss
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idk but when psyho show us the comp of the character i was like "But wait, Hugo is broken."

frigid ibex
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Just play Hugo with ranged weapons

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Easy

astral moss
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i mean, his comp are really melee centred so maybe its because of that.

outer cloak
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You literally see him ping someone in the head in that video with the semi (the person didn't have a helmet) and he doesn't one tap down them btw

astral moss
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Like i can tank a good amount of shot.

outer cloak
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So I don't think headshots insta down

raven totem
outer cloak
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They have the absolute worst armor animations I've seen in my fucking life

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Genuinely so bad

astral moss
outer cloak
wintry ferry
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Doesn't matter in Hunt because everyone's a millionaire at this point

outer cloak
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Me a BushWhack hunter waiting with a primed concertina in a bush****

frigid ibex
astral moss
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Like you die, you go next instantly.

outer cloak
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Especially when you have 9 more levels 50s in your roster

astral moss
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I am used to play level 1 hunter anyway.

wintry ferry
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Haha yeah... just 9....

frigid ibex
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All my hunters except one got over 100 trait points

raven totem
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i RUN MY 50S IN GIGA KITS

frigid ibex
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And they are 50

outer cloak
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Anyone else love the martini riposte or just me?

raven totem
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I play a mix

wintry ferry
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I had to buy more hunter slots and dark tribute gave me new ones

raven totem
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I like running early levels, max, ones that have cooked

wintry ferry
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so I filled out with lvl1 plague docs

raven totem
frigid ibex
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The only time I ran around with my storage hunters was when gunsmuggler was ratsmuggler

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Rotjaw event

astral moss
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Have an insane amount of 50 level hunter is difficult when you play only cqc. HatFish

raven totem
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1 in 3?

outer cloak
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I refuse to give any micro transactions to crytek.the already got like 50 bucks from me and that's to much. They need to stop relying off in game cosmetic dlc to stay alive. They can't leach off WarFace or hunt forever

frigid ibex
raven totem
astral moss
outer cloak
frigid ibex
outer cloak
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Not hitting shit but battlefield 3 level suppress

raven totem
outer cloak
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Them said cqc player. Shotguns still an option

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I have 3 kills with decoys

frigid ibex
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But if that's worth it is another question

raven totem
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only in the head

frigid ibex
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Ye

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With silent killer mind you

astral moss
wintry ferry
raven totem
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also technically not compleatly silent

wintry ferry
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It's more of managing your hunters

frigid ibex
raven totem
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I'm super close to 300 max hunters now, it's playing the numbers game correctly

outer cloak
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Arguably still best pistol

deep fog
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Pax is better

wintry ferry
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Lmao remember when Romero was the only actual good shotgun

outer cloak
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I agree but only bc I'm a sloot for the trueshot

wintry ferry
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Tho tbf Romero HC has been good for a long time as well

outer cloak
frigid ibex
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30% battery. Need battery for stopping my parking ticket tonight so bye bye

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Digital stuff sucks sometimes

raven totem
tranquil charm
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anyone want to play? PC NAE

rose elm
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Nice. Not only crytek completely killed the flashbangs, they did it again. The hit indicator is bugged again

raven totem
graceful hedgeBOT
deep fog
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Rip flashbangs

raven totem
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bye dizz, have fun in the south pole

mild flower
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what's a flashbang Glare

outer cloak
deep fog
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I genuinely have not seen a single one since the change

tranquil charm
raven totem
wintry ferry
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because I always felt it was the most "honest" shotgun as well

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Now Spec fills out the same long barrel buckshot niche but fires way faster lmao

mild flower
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wait was specter added after romero

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i forget

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thought it was a day 1 thing

rose elm
raven totem
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slate was later on a bit

wintry ferry
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Huh I just checked my roster I only have 45 maxouts on my shelf left

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I've been spamming all my plague doc maxouts and getting them killed lmao

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There were like 15 of these guys and I would generate more every now and then

jagged parcel
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I started playing ghost of yotei… uh..
Shrine maiden with katana and bow is kinda fun

outer cloak
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Still find it insanely dirty how crytek refused to pay crytek USA employees paychecks. Waiting til there boss left and most of the company quit here in the states. Closed it. Took the ip they were working on. And made something completely different after USA literally put there heart and soul into it

Then they basically had to form a new studio from the remnants of who was left. Remake yet another engine like they had before. Remade the game but had to change the art direction entirely bc the IP they created was snagged

ironicly tho they did name there game

"Remnant from the ashes"

outer cloak
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I kinda wanted to look but I don't wanna spoil anything for myself

stone basin
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I wish I still had a playstation just to play ghost of yotei

junior marlin
jagged parcel
outer cloak
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That sounds fuckin awesome

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Ty

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May snag

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If it's a 60$ drop and not a 70$ drop

wintry ferry
outer cloak
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U refuse to pay 70$ for a base game. I am a poor working class man

wintry ferry
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Same

outer cloak
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Now if that gets me a preorder bundle with a first free dlc and physical goodies (battlefield 3-4 type shit)

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THEN, AND ONLY THEN. will you get me extra 10$

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But I want a cheap dogtag or SOMETHING

strong moon
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i am once again requesting a "hire random legendary hunter" button

junior marlin
raven totem
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my brain twitches everytime I see long fmj

mild flower
raven totem
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in this case it makes sense but it still happens

mild flower
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since pen nerf

junior marlin
raven totem
mild flower
junior marlin
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hey man, it was for the gimmick

mild flower
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figured you were using the explo to finish low hunters from the sparks or the other way around

mild flower
junior marlin
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i remember not getting a singular kill and only getting assists for my teammates kills

mild flower
raven totem
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it's about the only thing uppercut explosive is used for, is this exact loadout

mild flower
raven totem
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ironically best on sparks in that regard because it helps it maintain it's 149

mild flower
raven totem
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where long ammo is concerned

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I mean sure, run long fmj, literally not my problem

mild flower
outer cloak
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I personally run sparks, no secondary, and decoys

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If I get a body shot your dying to the pebble

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That or I simply was not meant to kill you

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Simple as

raven totem
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medium fmj, goated, long fmj, misunderstood noobtrap imo

deep fog
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Sparks HV ammo when

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I need an 900 m/s sniper for my bush camping kda farming build im working on

raven totem
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sparks aperture when?

deep fog
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Genuinely yes, i would actually run the sparks if it had an aperture version

mild flower
raven totem
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nope

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they really aren't

outer cloak
raven totem
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if you're itching for fmj might as well run trueshot

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trueshot fmj = uppercut > uppercut fmj

outer cloak
raven totem
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disagree all you want

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again, isn't my problem at the end of the day

outer cloak
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Fair

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Why run fmg at all tho when you can run shotbolt

raven totem
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shotbolt is fun

mild flower
raven totem
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though I typically run either uppercut or trueshot fmj with is

raven totem
mild flower
raven totem
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because no matter what version of long you run, you don't have the ammo to sustain fishing walls

outer cloak
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I agree unless it's a pistol. I'm 1000% sure fmj makes pistols like UPPERMAT and uppercut two tap instead of 3 through walls at medium range

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(actually thinking on this it's onetap headshot no matter what through walls so maybe fmj is pointless on long ammo)

raven totem
outer cloak
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Bro I run crossbow 98% of the time

raven totem
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even then most good wallbang spots are one ply

outer cloak
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Id your behind a wall I'm not even on your radar

mild flower
astral moss
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Who wallbang even ?
Outdated strat.

outer cloak
raven totem
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more than that and you're fishing, you'll want something like vetteli fmj or lemat c fmj

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those are good at fishing for wallbangs, not long

outer cloak
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I personally run crossbow and a terminus with flechette and levering so after that crossbow hits you in limbs or chest the fucking levering kills you from hitting you with even like 1-2 darts and the terminus spam is honestly goated for that

raven totem
outer cloak
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It's the one chance aim + no aim combo

astral moss
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Doesnt crossbow one shot already ?

outer cloak
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In chest past like 40-50 meters no

raven totem
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I see your game wiley, I bid ye a good evening

outer cloak
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But bleed leaves it very close

astral moss
outer cloak
raven totem
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if not close enough

outer cloak
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I never not once said i was good

astral moss
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Yeah i think the same.

outer cloak
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That's literally my loadout and how I'm 6star

astral moss
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Exactly what a ragebaiter would say.

outer cloak
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Try it for yourself and see what I mean man

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Crossbow, regular bolts

Terminus shorty, flechette

astral moss
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Bro if you want to 2 tap there is far better load-out than crossbow/terminus.

outer cloak
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I also like than

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But the terminus lets me panic spray and apply pressure with bleed

mild flower
outer cloak
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If I really want a cancerous 1/2 tap load out

Bow and drilling

outer cloak
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Crossbow is literally my baby

astral moss
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Like i dont blame your load-out cause i play bomb lance afterall, i blame the logic behind it.

mild flower
outer cloak
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I begged for like 2 years for a deadeye variant of the Xbow then used it like twice because I genuinely feel I love with the sights and learned the drop my heart

mild flower
outer cloak
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Also I swear to God the reason I'm so rich is bc the Xbow

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At one point shit was like

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40 bucks

junior marlin
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i keep seeing 5 star solos in my 2.5 star lobbies

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and then they dont push and just miss with their dumbass subsonic bullets at like 2km range

mild flower
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Attempting to

junior marlin
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bro think its sniper elite

junior marlin
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i got reported

deep fog
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You aren't really playing hunt unless your steam profile is full of people accusing you of cheating because you aimed a gun

solid mantle
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bro this is not fucking funny anymore

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4th time in a row getting wiped out by fucking mmr 6 solos

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in mmr 3 lobby

junior marlin
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was he running a maynard?

solid mantle
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no nagant pistol

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3 shots 3 kills

dreamy cosmos
solid mantle
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4 times in a FUCKING ROW

junior marlin
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you obviously gotta go up against 5 star solos because they apparently cant aim for shit

wicked fox
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Good Morning Hunters ☕️

tame magnet
solid mantle
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at the end every weapon is deadly here

astral moss
spiral moon
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maby stupid question why we have still server select in game?

astral moss
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Imagine peoble in OCE.

tranquil dawn
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I got my cheek clapped by 6 star in 3 star lobby again

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This suck

junior marlin
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what larry said brah

tranquil dawn
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I’m saying that uh

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Dude pull some kind of impossible maneuver

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Honestly its kinda cool

astral moss
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Another complain about the matchmaking and i think i am gonna do a smurf to play hammer only.

spiral moon
astral moss
uneven cargo
tame magnet
astral moss
deep fog
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Volume of fire advantage is real

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Even the highest 6 atar is vulnerable to getting clipped by two bullets within a second

spiral moon
deep fog
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They might be aim better but its 3 guns v 1

astral moss
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Must be the only thing 6* are good at.
Aiming.

keen ermine
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Is the Uppercut good again? I haven't played this game since like December last year

sacred lion
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no

deep fog
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I mean

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Its not bad

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Its just not the defacto best anymore

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Its still good

keen ermine
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i dunno it was p bad for a minute there

sacred lion
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it still has horrible drop range and 123 damage

solid mantle
tame magnet
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If a trio pushes me all at once, it’s more difficult to take on all 3 at once versus each one of them head peeking and playing scared

solid mantle
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i mean thats why rachtaZ, neenoh and other famous hunt streamer are so famous, they fighting against whole lobbys , what the fuck is making a trio consisting out of casuals a difference

tame magnet
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And if you watch their fights, you’ll noticed they don’t get rushed

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People play scared

keen ermine
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Those guys are also the top 0.001% of players

solid mantle
astral moss
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You can play against the best player in the world, if 3 people are pushing him at the same time he cant do anything.

solid mantle
keen ermine
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People get so scared to push in this game man

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I see it all the time in 3*

astral moss
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Like just tell your team mate to push him at the same time and if they do then leave the fight.

solid mantle
astral moss
tame magnet
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It’s the same on trio v trio. The moment you get a kill and make it a 3v2, you push the duo

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You have the advantage

astral moss
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Those people just crouchwalk the entir match that's insane.

keen ermine
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I swear you gotta get to like 5* before you start getting teammates who are willing to push

modern pebble
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I am seriously asking

glossy meteor
proven grove
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Pft, every squad needs at least one sniper, one pusher and a guy that rotates between the two.

astral moss
modern pebble
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Why would u ever take steel balls over harpoon

tame magnet
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Idk why people get the 3v2 advantage and still sit back

keen ermine
glossy meteor
astral moss
modern pebble
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The harpoon will one shot too

astral moss
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Cause you dont need to aim exactly.

keen ermine
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Slower velo on the harpoon

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and drop

tawny frost
modern pebble
astral moss
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Steel balls rng is that stupid that if he is within 10m of you he take insane damage.

modern pebble
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So they’re not even better just more forgiving

astral moss
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For corner shot too, like harpoon isnt that accurate when you are running all the fight.

modern pebble
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Wdym

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I jumpshot with that shit

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It feels accurate enough

astral moss
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Fast peaking.

astral moss
modern pebble
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Idk maybe im lucky

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But it doesn’t feel inaccurate at all

strong moon
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shadow should have a little icon on the lower left when you've got it

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like the Devil buff or the Chariot timeout

solid mantle
astral moss
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I usually play both on my bomb lance, harpoon for outside and steel balls for very close fight.

mild flower
# modern pebble So they’re not even better just more forgiving

Steel balls are more forgiving yeah. You don't have to worry as much about missing or hitting limbs

It seems silly at first but then you realise if you don't count being easier as a proper upside then most things in the game are pointless because something being good is just something being easier than something else. You can win with anything, some things are just easier
So varying difficulty to use is a very valid and important balance aspect

solid mantle
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WTF ?! how did i got at mmr4 now of all times?! i died the whole day and ranked up wtf is this shit

modern pebble
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even assuming perfect aim you can’t do with a nagant what you can do with a Berthier

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penetration, muzzle velocity, damage falloff

mild flower
# modern pebble penetration, muzzle velocity, damage falloff

Don't need penetration if you just play perfectly to always have an angle and shoot the enemy as soon as they're exposed

Damage falloff doesn't matter if you always headshot

Muzzle velocity does add luck to hitting at range but even then if you're good enough you can control the distance you fight at to never have luck involved, balance is things being easier or harder for certain playstyles and scenarios

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If you're bringing a bomb lance in the first place, may as well use anything else and just headshot right? No, because hitting body with lance is easier

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Same with steel balls, hitting the rough area of the hunter is easier than getting a direct torso shot

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Wall of text killed chat, my bad

strong moon
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they should add a big frying pan as a world melee weapon that spawns on like stoves and campsites

ivory otter
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Do we know what the Twitch drops will be this time?

strong moon
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yes, they will be a set of cosmetic and in-game rewards provided after a certain amount of watch time on Twitch

uneven cargo
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use the coms options or lfg or make friends any 3v1 has the advantage and using fucking rachta as an example is disingenuous

crystal bay
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Let's remember to keep it respectful 1HuntNice

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Similar skill level for sure the 3v1 easily has the advantage and they need to coordinate it

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Sometimes in hunt though there are times where the skill gap is pretty wide and so even the advantage of numbers is not quite enough to make up for the skill difference

uneven cargo
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just play more and get better than idk cya

crystal bay
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Plenty of reasons for differences in skill

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Saying that is all it takes is disingenuous

solid mantle
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fixing the matchmaking would be nice , matchmaking based on K/D is bullshit

astral moss
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Omg still complaining...

strong moon
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so the matchmaking is not based on K/D

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your kill/death ratio will factor in only indirectly

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in that a strong player will have a higher k/d and likely higher MMR

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but the actual MMR calculation is not K/D based

astral moss
strong moon
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do what

crystal bay
strong moon
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get everyone a very thoughtful gift

astral moss
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Like at peak hour its difficult to don't play my main weapon ngl.

crystal bay
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Well if you play it enough, it'll either work or you'll eventually get to a place where it will work HUL

astral moss
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Yeah but did i want to suffer the hammer gameplay... HuntThunk

crystal bay
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I have been running into more mosin trios these days but even then just running whatever you feel like running is fun. At least for me, even if I don't win, trying to kill em with different weapons is fun for me

rose elm
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Wtf is this bs BC matchmaking. We're a team of 2-3-2 and we're constantly slaughtered by teams of 5-6s or terminator 6 solos

uneven cargo
astral moss
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Like hammer isn't a bad melee weapon, but its really mid.

crystal bay
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Oh for sure I can see how hammer would be frustrating for it and if you bring some other gun that is what you'll end up using all the time

strong moon
uneven cargo
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they wouldnt put u in these matches if your matching macking didnt reflect it

astral moss
uneven cargo
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the system isnt broken

karmic citrus
rose elm
strong moon
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i say this a lot but there isn't a mathematical solution to matchmaking for something like Hunt, it will always have "felt" mismatches

strong moon
uneven cargo
rose elm
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I'm totally ok when we lose to 3-4 stars, 5 occasionally. But how is this even remotely fair when we're slaughtered without any chances by a ninja 6 star solo?

strong moon
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like i get it, sometimes you get vaporized by a Hunt mutant, but the thing is, those Hunt mutants aren't always playing with adderall and NVIDIA profile inspector, and they lose too

astral moss
karmic citrus
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I hate MMR because SBMM is evil and the reason for all the bad in the world

uneven cargo
uneven cargo
strong moon
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i honestly think sink-or-swim might be better for everyone, if the player base was large enough

astral moss
uneven cargo
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= chance to get stomped or slam the match

rose elm
karmic citrus
uneven cargo
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if youre not gonna be realistic why are u even arguing

light sky
uneven cargo
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our?

strong moon
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i would be interested in seeing the statistics on how accurate the match predictions are via the SBMM model they use

rose elm
strong moon
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like how reliable is glicko-2 for this

light sky
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Well, the sbmm

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I'm eepy lemme be

uneven cargo
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ofc youre at a disadvantage

crystal bay
uneven cargo
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6 star is a WIDE bracket and low 6 stars are far worse than high 6 stars

crystal bay
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Being 3* duo with 5* match MMR feels really off

uneven cargo
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i agree

strong moon
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i would say the engagement based tweaking they do on the backend is probably bad

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it's why the matchmaking can feel like a roller coaster ride of stomps or cakewalks

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it's not pure glicko-2, they have a hot streak/cold streak modifier, and we don't know what it is

crystal bay
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For sure, I just think that it's not working properly right now either way

rose elm
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So in other words, the game makes you lose if you win too much. Like, wtf dude, now it's your turn to suffer

crystal bay
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Unless for some reason the system is so confident they belong in 3* but their winstreak/current skill has made it so the modifier thinks they should be 5*

crystal bay
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and then you'll face harder matches

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then vice versa

strong moon
crystal bay
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which is just how matchmaking works normally

astral moss
strong moon
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the EBMM seems to kick in after 3-4 matches, and it's definitely a light touch, but without it a long time player would not have noticeable changes in match quality in after just a few wins/losses in a day

uneven cargo
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wtf is ebmm

strong moon
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because you just odn't move up/down that fast once the system is confident in you

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engagement based matchmaking

uneven cargo
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🤓

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wtf is engagement

strong moon
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it's a temporary modifier based on hot/cold streak. they said they introduced it in a blog post.

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"engagement" being the committment to a play session by players

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they want you to be facing appropriate challengers

cursive hazel
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The game has 8000 ppl online spread out over different regions you will not get perfect matchmaking

dusky spoke
strong moon
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too many stomps, you get bored and stop playing. too many cakewalks, you get bored and stop playing.

dusky spoke
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Couple good games and you start meeting those dudes that your pals warned you about that time might be cheating but isn't really sure

crystal bay
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Idk, I meet those guys first game of the day or even when on a losing streak HUL

dusky spoke
#

We all have that friend that thinks everyones a cheater lol

karmic citrus
#

I personally refer to it as the "fuck you meter"

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Having too much fun and the meter fills, game says fuck you, sends you an unwinnable matchup

ivory otter
dusky spoke
stone basin
strong moon
ivory otter
crystal bay
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New skins would be nice

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but they are free so I can't complain too much

deep fog
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Bornheims been a bad place for a long time

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Im not entirely shocked it hasnt got a lot of love

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They had to nerf it long ago because sparks x bornheim spam was super strong

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And then since then its been overshadowed by like the new army anyway

karmic citrus
#

I like the officer :)

deep fog
#

The fact its ammo capacity is so bad as well means its really hard to even take it as like a 2 slot secondary when running a shotgun or something

astral moss
fathom shale
#

Bornheim is far from bad

deep fog
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Its not bad

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I just wouldn't say its good either

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And the bornheim match particularly i think really struggles to see use against other two slot options

ocean briar
#

how does this twitch drops event work? first time for me

crystal bay
#

Spam is pretty good

crystal bay
scenic plinth
#

if bornheim was that bad, crytek would buff it out of nowhere like spectre

astral moss
#

The dolch just out stat the bornheim in everything so everyone play dolch.

ivory otter
karmic citrus
karmic citrus
#

I love the chain pistol ❤️

ocean briar
full raven
#

First time Im hearing anyone say the Bornheim Match is not amazing

deep fog
#

I mean, it's a head clicker, fine, but the cent shorty and even vandal with hp do that too

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And yes it has a fast follow up hut with what is it, 80 dmg? Thats only up to like 25 metres

full raven
#

It can two tap

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super quick

graceful hedgeBOT
ocean briar
crystal bay
#

You can go there to connect your twitch, the streamers will be streaming Hunt and state in title typically that drops are enabled

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they want to get viewers from it so they will let you know

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And you will have to claim the drops from twitch after you've watched whatever amount of time is required to unlock them

full raven
#

its an amazing pistol

crystal bay
#

Last time it was "watch 4 hours within 1 week to unlock everything for that week" I believe

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maybe a bit more than 4 hours but it wasn't too hard

random nimbus
deep fog
karmic citrus
#

Or dual conversions if you hate having to reload mid fight

full raven
karmic citrus
#

I need conversion chain pistol carbine

astral moss
#

I just discover the scottfield dual and i think its better than conversion.

karmic citrus
#

I like running them with fmj

random nimbus
#

Scotts are almost as accurate but have ugly recoil and firing speeds compared to the conversions

ivory otter
karmic citrus
#

Usually I'll run sparks pistol or uppercut recently, because I've been running a lot of shotguns and long ammo

random nimbus
#

Swifts are nice for continuous spam tho

astral moss
karmic citrus
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Yes.

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Gimme

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Mounted Gatling guns would be very silly

full raven
deep fog
#

My point is its only 2 tap at limited ranges

random nimbus
#

Comparing officer and harmy to what?

deep fog
#

Bornheim

full raven
#

Bornheim Match

karmic citrus
deep fog
#

And match to vandal/cent shorty

random nimbus
#

Ehh, bornheim match is fun but definitely a more paper gun vs one that's practical

full raven
#

Hes saying the bornheim Match is not great, which is insane to me

deep fog
#

I don't think it is, sorry

random nimbus
#

It CAN two tap torso faster than anything, but it's only upper torso at short range.

deep fog
#

A 25 metre two tap is really limiting

random nimbus
#

It's great on paper but not very consistent in practice

astral moss
#

bornheim dual.

karmic citrus
#

Run ranger primary, bornheim match (I assume it's compact ammo), use it CQC

deep fog
karmic citrus
#

It's kinda crazy, the close quarters gun meant for close quarters

random nimbus
#

It's good, but I wouldn't call it great

deep fog
#

Im comparing 2 slot weapons when your 3 slot is a shotgun i guess

full raven
#

I use the match close a lot but if your main arguement is that it can only two tap at 25m, its a rapid fire pistol with more than two bullets...

random nimbus
#

It's a lot of potential but not the most consistent in achieving it

full raven
#

that doesn't miss

karmic citrus
deep fog
#

I guess my question is

full raven
#

Im only 5 star but I wipe teams with it as a main

deep fog
#

What build would you be using it in

random nimbus
#

Well, you're one of the few that still uses it. The match has been around for ages and got buffed years ago to 80 damage and never took off.

full raven
#

I like to run Berthier and Born Match

random nimbus
#

An officer carbine is usually a more consistent spam option.

deep fog
#

Okay so you're using it as your cqc weapon

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That makes sense then

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Im comparing it as a secondary to another cqc weapon like shotgun or crossbow

random nimbus
#

I used it for a while because Mockingbird is an amazing skin

full raven
#

I care about the fast TTK which its in it own league

random nimbus
#

Fast TTK vs how consistent it is.

full raven
#

shot gun you miss a shot its over, Match you can spray a whole clip and if two hit, you win

random nimbus
#

Sadly the match isn't the most consistent

crystal bay
#

I'm glad match isn't used more often tbh

karmic citrus
#

I like running specter with sparks pistol :)

full raven
#

Its more consistent than shotgun with how many bullets you can put out

random nimbus
#

Okay, that's just not true.

deep fog
#

Shotguns are basically 100% Consistent if you can aim and are in range

#

Unless you run penny shot, lol

gritty willow
deep fog
#

But thats the issue, ranging shotguns is very tricky

karmic citrus
random nimbus
#

If we're talking ideal upper torso aim in respective weapon ranges, shotgun always wins.

random nimbus
full raven
#

Shotgun you ahve to hit the first shot and kill on first shot, Match you can litterally spray in their direction.

random nimbus
#

If you're just spraying then you're just using a bad pistol at that point

karmic citrus
#

Y'all don't know the real sleeper weapon. 4 big dynamite bundles.

random nimbus
#

Because the bornheim 3 taps everywhere that isn't upper torso

gritty willow
deep fog
random nimbus
#

Any other pistol will spray better, especially if they can tolerate an arm hit to kill

deep fog
#

Idk i guess as a secondary to a long gun bornheim makes sense

random nimbus
#

And shotguns shoot quick.

full raven
#

I feel like you won't be convinced, it's way more consistent at getting kills in the compound for me.

deep fog
#

I would personally take a shotgun hand cannon in that situation

full raven
#

You like what you like I guess

random nimbus
#

Like, the crown is .6 second cycle time, rival is like .3

#

These shotguns put out bullets quick

deep fog
#

But i would normally take a full shotgun with a 2 slot rifle instead, for which I personally believe the bornheim is the worst choice

#

So honestly i think is one of those where there isnt a "right" answer

full raven
#

Match is going to have a more consistant longer range kill than any 2 slot shotty. Auto-4 is really good though.

random nimbus
#

Idk if you realize how far some shotguns can two tap at

full raven
#

point blank sure, shotty might destroy but you need to fill more range if your main is essentially a sniper

random nimbus
#

And again, match HAS to hit upper torso.

#

People usually take a drilling in that situation

#

Has two rapid fire shots AND a shotgun

full raven
#

The only argument I could accept is that the bow would outperform the match for a mid/close two slot

random nimbus
#

I think the fact that the Match is essentially a ghost gun is proof enough against it.

full raven
#

Bow is just that good

random nimbus
#

It's good, but it's just good.

karmic citrus
deep fog
#

Real sleeper combi gun is the lemat carbine with fmj

random nimbus
deep fog
#

That is honestly busted

karmic citrus
#

I've gotten nasty one taps with drilling, and other times I'll be practically stuffing my barrel into a dudes chest and my buddy has to follow up with 2 sparks shots to put him down

random nimbus
#

All shotgun combo type guns feel so much better after the buckshot buff

full raven
deep fog
#

I said it wasn't good compared to other options as a 2 slot gun

karmic citrus
full raven
#

Its not used as much because you ahve to build around it, Not because its bad. Thats faulty logic.

deep fog
#

But i maybe should of clarified thsts how I would use it as a ranged gun with a cqc primary

random nimbus
full raven
#

Its way more simple to throw in a one slot pistol and build more around a main gun

deep fog
#

If you are using it as a cqc gun then in that case it makes sense

full raven
#

Using pick rate as a metric for viability is absurd

random nimbus
#

Tbf, if you have to build around it specifically, then that suggests it's a lot of demand.

random nimbus
deep fog
#

I still think in the one slot pistol size version its getting crowded out by the army and the officer though

random nimbus
#

Pennyshot isn't picked because it's not consistent

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Pennyshot CAN be absolutely disgusting. But it can also throw the game

karmic citrus
full raven
#

Ya, I don't think there is any need to further discuss this. You seem pretty set. If you don't like it thats cool but ya, using pick rate just kind of loses my interest.

random nimbus
#

I've given several reasons WHY it's not picked.

deep fog
#

Im agreeing with you dude, as a cqc secondary its probably fine

#

Its not my personal choice but it makes sense

full raven
#

Im going back in game though. Have a good one

random nimbus
#

Use it if you like it, more power to you. Just don't worship it and act like it's some sleeper pick nobody knows how to use.

deep fog
#

Good hoonting

random nimbus
#

Like, dolch p or Match. Cost aside, it's a easy choice.

scenic plinth
#

pennyshot is casino gameplay, sometimes you lose it all sometimes you somehow get a double kill with 1 shot

deep fog
#

Pennyshot shouldn't use ammo

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It should cost 1 hunt dollar every time you firs it

karmic citrus
#

Honestly, I can't think of an objectively bad gun.

random nimbus
#

My biggest gripe with penny is no pen.

deep fog
karmic citrus
random nimbus
#

Like everything can kill but then we're into 'just headshot' territory

scenic plinth
deep fog
#

Touche, but the sights are fucking awful

karmic citrus
random nimbus
#

Springfield compact USED to be the absolute worst

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That sway was unreasonable

karmic citrus
#

Every gun feels like it can be viable in some way

deep fog
#

Okay counterpoint

dusky spoke
random nimbus
#

Problem is if there's better options

deep fog
#

The winfield talon

random nimbus
#

I love Winnie talon

karmic citrus
deep fog
#

Solely because the bayonet winfield is good now

#

And obsoletes it

dusky spoke
#

Bornheim is one if not the highest skill ceiling gun in the game

karmic citrus
#

I need to experiment with builds more man

#

Damn

deep fog
random nimbus
#

Oh god, post 1896 players

karmic citrus
random nimbus
#

Ffs just rename them back to Winfields

karmic citrus
deep fog
#

But point remains: talon js good but the bayonet does the same thing but vetter

random nimbus
#

Like, I die a little inside when I hear Auto-5. NO! IT'S CALLED THE CROWN!

modern pebble
#

back im me day we had the winfield the winfield the winfield and the winfield

deep fog
#

In that regard i'd humbly suggest the talon as an objectively bad gun

random nimbus
#

Talon is great for rending damage

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Like for wire

modern pebble
#

talon is bad because swift best variant

random nimbus
#

The Winnie bayonet is also LONG. I've seen people poking it through walls because they run gunslinger

deep fog
#

But the bayonet poke is one of the longest, if not the longest, in the game, so against players is probably better

karmic citrus
random nimbus
karmic citrus
deep fog
#

Its called the clown and cringe ackshullyHuntDisgust

random nimbus
#

Then they went on a renaming crusade for some reason

stone basin
#

I miss when guns in this game had brands

random nimbus
modern pebble
#

i still think the renaming was a good thing

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telling a new player to use a winfield was

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complicated

random nimbus
deep fog
#

You had big winny

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And little winny

random nimbus
#

It wasn't complicated. People just didn't read.

deep fog
#

What was the issue

stone basin
#

Shotgun winny

karmic citrus
#

WHY IS THE SCHOFIELD CALLED THE SCOTTFIELD

deep fog
#

Honestly I think thet should of made em like

dusky spoke
deep fog
#

Borderlands style cards

random nimbus
deep fog
#

Brand, name, etc

modern pebble
#

the marlin is called a mako

stone basin
random nimbus
deep fog
#

Then you could of had Winfield as a brand and ranger as the weapon line

karmic citrus
modern pebble
#

yes because its such a bad thing that the weapons are easier to differentiate for new players

random nimbus
#

The old WinnieC has a giant C next to the name

dusky spoke
stone basin
# karmic citrus Fair

I see you are on xbox I hope next time I play I either murder you or you murder me it will be fun

south shore
deep fog
#

I mean whats the winfields call now

modern pebble
#

i think its ranger infantry and frontier

deep fog
#

The... Ranger and the... Ranger 73...?

karmic citrus
random nimbus
modern pebble
#

and obv the centennial

karmic citrus
random nimbus
#

They made it MORE confusing

deep fog
random nimbus
#

Winfield. WinfieldC. Short and simple.

deep fog
#

I wanna shoot some terminids with a romero and fan clankers to death with a conversion

dusky spoke
#

Coulda just called the small capacity winfield the binfield and been done with it smh

deep fog
#

Losefield

random nimbus
#

The new one could be WinfieldL.

south shore
random nimbus
#

The krag losing Springfield was at least understandable

deep fog
#

Real men use the dagger and just go for headshots

karmic citrus
deep fog
#

But why are you putting your ac8 away on the bot front...?

#

Bam bam bam bam bam PING

karmic citrus
#

Obviously

deep fog
#

True

dreamy cave
#

Got another throwing knife kill last night for yall TK non believers HuntChad extra 8 OHK in my pocket

mortal basin
#

Clip?

#

Guess it didn't actually happen PepeHands

heavy finch
#

Whether or not people are TK non believers is all about MMR and region no? 😄

copper zodiac
#

Crazy how they announced drops

#

Had a dream I got 2000 nitros from drops

#

And I took over all of the servers with an army of nitro bush campers

icy elbow
astral moss
#

Where drop ?

#

They are enable ?

zenith spruce
#

are we ever going to get cross progression? i want my console skins in the worst way

opal dawn
heavy finch
#

i get that TK is normally teamkill btw

astral moss
opal dawn
astral moss
icy elbow
dreamy cave
icy elbow
#

I def thought u meant team kill

heavy finch
# icy elbow Oh lmfao

hehe. very understandable misunderstanding. it was him that used TK so i just went along 😄

dreamy cave
#

My bad lol

haughty gale
#

Anybody tryna play Am trying to get back into game, only got 100 hours

mortal basin
#

!lfg

graceful hedgeBOT
mortal basin
#

That'll be your best bet^

deep fog
#

I think i killed a guy with a nitro with the throwing spear once

dreamy cave
#

Good

heavy finch
#

i did throwing weapons only for like 2 weeks

opal dawn
#

I domed a nitro uppercut player yesterday through a bush with my cenny

heavy finch
#

and i had the native american skin on and used a soundboard to play native music

deep fog
#

Haha

heavy finch
# deep fog Haha

ill dm you the link to the compilation from that if you are bored 🙂

haughty gale
#

Is bow and arrow 1 shot?

heavy finch
haughty gale
#

Or like is it viable for me to just run perma bow and arrow

deep fog
#

One of my most memorable moments in hunt was years ago, and a polish guy here joined us in a lfg game and ran bomblance only and ran at people like a psychopath screaming polish curses over allchat

opal dawn
deep fog
#

Was actually astonishing how many people panicked and shit their pants when someone sprints at them screaming a language they don't know and swinging the bomb lance around

heavy finch
opal dawn
heavy finch
#

or run quartermaster and have a main rifle with bow as your short game.

haughty gale
#

Concertina or poison?

heavy finch
#

honestly i think the standard arrows are just fine

#

no one can ignore that bleed.

haughty gale
#

lets go

heavy finch
opal dawn
haughty gale
opal dawn
#

Just get them center on in the crosshair and it's good

heavy finch
haughty gale
#

Shame I need DLC for bow skin

heavy finch
opal dawn
haughty gale
#

set up

#

cheap

heavy finch
# haughty gale set up

hmmm. why not run quarter and have a bigger more versatile rifle like a cent or something

haughty gale
#

Nah commiting to only bow

#

How do I acc see what skins I have?

heavy finch
gritty willow
#

Bow makes me sad when i trade

obtuse wind
#

As a new player of 3 weeks now, my brother and I both come to the conclusion this game might not be good for new players or in general. The gun play and the sound is next level, maps good also.

The issue with the game is we both have already put in 40-50 hours of play time and we still have next to nothing unlocked or have any way to even run cool set ups and test gear.

It seems there's no way to get fast hunt dollars and outside of that the game seems like a huge money grab. It sucks because this is such a cool game but it's obviously not made for casual players or new people.

Sincerely fuck whoever made this great game

opal dawn
#

Money grab? In what way? Of all the things I would've dogged on Hunt that's not really one of them

icy elbow
#

You’ve put in 50 hours and you haven’t unlocked any new gear? What?

opal dawn
#

You just need base game and nothing else

heavy finch
halcyon sedge
halcyon sedge
obtuse wind
# haughty gale bro just play the damn game

I'm sick of using free new players with shit set ups, we can't even get over 10k hunt dollars and cool gun set ups with bullets/good gear costs well over 1k a load out which 9/10 games we die and lose. Then we make almost no hunt dollars every game so how are we ever supposed to run cool set ups and test all the add ons to the guns?

vivid cape
#

heyy yall, new to game, please tell me how to collect those rewards I keep seeing. After a mtch, I see "you got a reward" wheere to pick it from ?

opal dawn
#

No need to collect anything

vivid cape
#

oh

obtuse wind
#

Explain to me how to make enough hunt dollars to run even a 500 dollar load out every match? Doesnt seem possible

vivid cape
#

so it says i got a dunkirke.... or i short revolver, so I got it ? no need to buy it ? oke then

halcyon sedge
#

hey yall new to the game i keep running to the lightning bolts on the map and theres always players there that kill me is this a bug ?

obtuse wind
opal dawn
obtuse wind
opal dawn
#

I still have night where I get dogged on 10 out of 12 matches

vivid cape
#

which is the best rifle for in general go to bounty clash game ?

heavy finch
icy elbow
#

Fwiw the guns often given to you on free hunters are fine. They often have marathons and 1865 carbines both of which are viable

vivid cape
#

i saw a meme about romero earier

icy elbow
#

you can use those hunters and just give them some extra cheap gear or select those and pull the guns off to use

opal dawn
obtuse wind
icy elbow
heavy finch
#

or call me

haughty gale
halcyon sedge
haughty gale
#

take me into your home and show me your ways

heavy finch
obtuse wind
haughty gale
heavy finch
heavy finch
opal dawn
obtuse wind
#

Crazy I heard this game has a good community when I have a valid grip with game as a new player, there's nothing to help you get set up and run cool load outs to test items. We can't get any bounty's can barely even extract with anything. Come here and community just clowns new players and you guys wonder why this games dying

icy elbow
#

people are offering you advice dawg

opal dawn
#

Yeah lmao

obtuse wind
#

Only Pvt Lenny

haughty gale
#

hes a begging nagging nancy

icy elbow
#

are you blind?

fathom shale
#

Keep it respectful guys

icy elbow
#

Grug has been responding to you offering you legitimate advice this entire time

analog kettle
#

Question!
Is there a bug with Death Cheat?!
I lost mine after I only got downed but we survived.

obtuse wind
#

Okay so the advice you guys gave me was to run around avoid players find cash registers which you didn't even tell me how to find them and then I'm supposed to just extract without having any fun killing anything. Not going for any bounties not even knowing how to play the game. I'm just supposed to avoid players for 10 matches in a row extracting with a little bit of cash. So then I can go buy a sick loadout die with it instantly and then spend the next 10 matches loading cash registers avoiding players? What kind of fucking stupid game is that?

whole furnace
opal dawn
halcyon sedge
#

chat is this rage bait

opal dawn
#

If you're new, let some teams take each other out then take advantage of that

opal dawn
#

That's just how Hunt is

#

If you wanna practice PvP, get free Hunters and do some bounty clash, you lose nothing

obtuse wind
#

No, it's not ragebait. My brother and I generally bought this game a few weeks ago. Have been casually playing five to six matches a few nights a week and from our experience we've gone down and hunt dollars. We can't even afford any cool loadouts. We just run free characters that normally die or we survive one to two matches and then they die. So we can't even unlock all the cool characters or use any of the cool guns or equipment. And we have games of zero money every time we spend on a cool loadout that's barely even a thousand hunt dollars. We dying silly and now we're both down to less than 4K hundred dollars. So we came and use anything. Explain to me how the f*** we're supposed to do anything in this game as new players

obtuse wind
#

Sorry I'm at work. Voice to chat sucks

fathom shale
#

That's the game though, risk vs reward, the better your loadout and the more you spend on it the more you risk if you end up dying

halcyon sedge
#

you gotta just find balanced loadouts and learn the game, after that money will come naturally

fathom shale
#

There's options to help you out even if you struggle with hunt dollars, there's free hunters, soul survivor mode, playstyles that can get you money without having to wipe the entire lobby

obtuse wind
# true briar I hate to say it, but git gud

Well I agree. How are we supposed to get good when the whole community is running around with sick characters? Fully loaded out gear, special bullets and guns and we can't even get a bounty to extract with.... I've played a ton of video games in my life and it just seems like this video game. There's zero way for new players to get in the community and enjoy the game

icy elbow
# obtuse wind Okay so the advice you guys gave me was to run around avoid players find cash re...

You don’t need thousands of dollars to run a viable loadout and you don’t need to rat around for 10 matches. Try to focus on extracting for a couple of matches while running a cheap loadouts. Free hunters have viable main slot rifles which you can use. Steal their gear and put it in your inventory if you don’t want to spend money on things like melee tools and med kits. Soul survivor also gives you free money. Bounty clash you can bring free hunters in and if you lose it doesn’t matter and if you win you can loot every body for the money. Look in hunting towers for registers. There are a lot of options for making money in this game, even without having to win every time. It’s not helpful to come into a chat and be super aggressive to people who actually do know the game and are trying to offer you legitimate advice

opal dawn
#

I have a total of 1k hours in this game, my average loadout costs like... 550-700 bucks

fathom shale
#

You can also train your aim to be more equipped to deal with players when you do end up facing them, there's shooting range, soul survivor is good as well to encourage you to try different weapons with no risk of losing your own money/gear

true briar
#

you lose some and win some

#

eventually you'll learn and start wining more than losing

full raven
#

Springfield Shorty DUM DUM with a Romero 77 Shorty. 129 dollars for both guns and you can conquer the world.

fathom shale
#

Also if anything, this game is on average way more forgiving economy wise than something like Tarkov or other extraction shooters

opal dawn
#

Hunt was brutal when I started fully, got trashed. Then, started winning and there's not game quite like Hunt once you get rolling

true briar
#

cheep loadout ain't that bad, Romero is good gun if you know how to use it

whole mist
obtuse wind
whole mist
#

Pledge marks and looting big cash registers is really easy during events

full raven
spark plaza
#

amogus

opal dawn
#

You can also strip free hunters of gear, boot them and get a 100 dollar Hunter

obtuse wind
true briar
#

also

icy elbow
#

What are you bringing where you are recruiting free hunters but are still hemorrhaging tons of money ?

true briar
#

take vulture perk and loot hunters

obtuse wind
opal dawn
#

Vetterli + lemat pistol is a great combo. Vett is fantastic now and lemat got a shotgun

whole mist
#

Crosshair X enjoyerHatEyes

full raven
#

You run a sub 300 hunter+kit the game even gives you money for playing. I get half my money back not even getting out. If you kill boss and die you still net profit

spark plaza
full raven
#

Legit if you run solo with Necro,Witness,Vulture

#

you can make so much bank

outer cloak
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Still find it insanely dirty how crytek refused to pay crytek USA employees paychecks. Waiting til there boss left and most of the company quit here in the states. Closed it. Took the ip they were working on. And made something completely different after USA literally put there heart and soul into it

Then they basically had to form a new studio from the remnants of who was left. Remake yet another engine like they had before. Remade the game but had to change the art direction entirely bc the IP they created was snagged

ironicly tho they did name there game

"Remnant from the ashes"

silent terrace
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yo any1 wanna be duos?

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im on pc

fathom shale
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Is there a point to you bringing up decade old matters out of nowhere? Especially ones that don't even tell the full story

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Duos or trios?

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No

silent terrace
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either or

full raven
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What is the point in posting these links 😄

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I just don't like crytek Germany

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fathom shale
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At least put your links in <> so that they don't clutter the chat

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astral moss
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Spear, my favorite melee weapon

astral moss
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Its not a melee anymore, its just a one shot on demand.

outer cloak
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Wait you can't poke with it?

astral moss
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Like you need 2 heavy attack to kill a full life hunter.

light sky
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Just aim for the head

true pawn
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Just hit heads cmoon

south shore
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Ive seen spooky get headshots

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This is libel

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Dirty libel

modern pebble
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modern pebble
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steel balls enjoyers could never

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Why would I not use flechette from medium range, it fucking hits and bleeds

modern pebble
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although flechette does what harpoon can but WORSE

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no one shot

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I'm an AVID shotbolt user for that reason

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Pellets won't reach you?

modern pebble
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Fine I will deliver the whole fucking shell to your location

modern pebble
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also we were in lower ranking lobby cuz a friend is new and im trash

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I personally sometimes bring explosive JUST so I can lob random bolts across map

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Scare the hoes away type shit

modern pebble
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also unrelated

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trios is so fucking easy

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theres no way people think solo is easier

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Solo is easier

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I literally sit and wait

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Let everyone fight

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Maybe hop in for like 10 seconds and snag a kill or two

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Wait some more

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Wait til it's like a 1 v 3 or 1v2

modern pebble
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thats not solo being easier thats ratting being easier

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Snag kill and then a bounty

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Leave

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What's the difference...

modern pebble
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???

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i solo and i aint a fucking rat

outer cloak
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Congrats?

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I'm gonna sit in a bush with a Xbow and get 7 kills two bounties and no deaths

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And probably watch YouTube shorts while I do it

astral moss
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Hunt, maybe the only game where you can watch a video while playing it.

outer cloak
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Nah 10000% tarkov and siege

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It literally has a phone phase (drone phase)

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Yeah but its one minute at the start.

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I bet you don't camp for 1min in hunt, don't lie to me.

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Oh hell no

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I be IN DA BUSH

copper zodiac
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I'm 6 star too

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;-;

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"Glad i am 6*" probably the firts time i see this.

deep fog
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I play solo with serpent, dont go in the compound, steal the banish and bounty through a wall and then leave while the boss team fights another trio

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copper zodiac
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If its a good game i don't even kill anyone

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Be a true rat. Run faster then they can too

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deep fog
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Yeah magpie of course

astral moss
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That's like saying you enjoy cbt

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