hunt-general

[outer cloak]

Wait can you not precision burst the avto anymore?

I literally have not touched it in years

[mild flower]

if it were just vertical recoil, it wouldn't be bad at all. but the random horizontal recoil makes it much less easy

[swift elk]

recoil control like you firing a barrett .50cal irl

[astral moss]

I mean, between the avto and nitro, i think the nitro is better lol.

[outer cloak]

(let me flip the fucking aperture down on the fucking nitro)

[mild flower]

nitro is currently better because of the devil card's insane combo with it.

apart from that i think they're relatively even

[astral moss]

YES PLZ !!!

[random nimbus]

It's too early in the morning for this much trolling

[mild flower]

You are literally asking to remove one of the major balancing points of the weapon

[astral moss]

They are both sh*t then.

[random nimbus]

I wouldn't even engage with it. It's bait

[astral moss]

Even with that it wont be better than a mosin like what.

[swift elk]

you can see who downvoted lol

[outer cloak]

Brody it doesn't even guarantee one shot body at range anymore

It's not a god gun

[mild flower]

u sure? i think they just dont realize it's an intentional balance mechanic

[inland jewel]

I have sewn discorse amongst the people

[outer cloak]

The balance is its shit past medium range and the ammo economy is shit

[astral moss]

Can be, but it just make the gun frustrating to play.

[outer cloak]

Letting me see peripherals won't kill the gun

[random nimbus]

DragNoa wants it buffed so they'll just downplay it

[astral moss]

Like i don't want to pratice 50h to be able to land a shot sorry.

[mild flower]

then don't use it

if the gun isnt for you thats fine

[astral moss]

Exactly what i am doing.

[frigid ibex]

Your name in game 🤔

[astral moss]

But i would like to play it if its in a better state.

[swift elk]

ya

[mild flower]

what you seem to want is just homestead/rival slugs, why aren't you just happy with using that?

[outer cloak]

Letting people see peripherals on the nitro won't make it op. It's easily not worth the price as is. It doesn't outrange long ammo and it has the most dumb ammo choices Of any fun in the game

Fucking hand crossbow with flame bolt is more reliable

[astral moss]

No i just want a better sight when aiming, nerf it all you want after that, but remove this sh*t aperture.

[whole mist]

It would quickly become OP

[random nimbus]

That's part of the tradeoffs to being able to body tap with a 550ms bullet at 50m

[outer cloak]

OR MAKE IT FOLD LIKE THE OTHERS

[astral moss]

Nobody will use the aperture so just remove it.

[random nimbus]

The nitro aperture has never been foldable since its release. It's not going anywhere so get used to it

[whole mist]

Mandela effect

[random nimbus]

It has always had the aperture

[outer cloak]

Shit I pay for the level aperture EVERYTIME because that OPTION makes it worth it

[astral moss]

No.

[random nimbus]

Yes.

[clear fossil]

why do people leave if they are downed if they are not revived in like 30 seconds even if they are not burning

[outer cloak]

I mean that's probably because it released BEFORE any other aperture was a mechanic

[random nimbus]

This has been debunked countless times.

[outer cloak]

😑

[clear fossil]

why does it happen always

[random nimbus]

It ALWAYS had the aperture

[swift elk]

if my teammate is afk in a bush, im not staying, if they are fighting or making an effort ill wait all lobby

[outer cloak]

Yes but it was in the game before they added the APERTURE variants

They had no idea they were gonna add more like 1.5 years after they made the nitro

[random nimbus]

So? Part of its balance is the aperture sight restriction

[outer cloak]

:/

[random nimbus]

Those guns don't one tap torso at 50m

[clear fossil]

well yeah, we were fighting the sniper who shot him and he just leaves in the middle of it, and i swear it happens so often im getting annoyed

[mild flower]

this is the equivalent of asking to be able to tap fire the avtomat
sure, it makes the gun more frustrating to play for it to be in the game, but it is one of the biggest balancing points of the weapon. The point of avtomat and nitro are that they are expensive and awkward asf to use, but if you can handle them and their price, they have amazing kill potential.

if you don't like the aperture, you don't like the gun and its design. but that's ok. just don't use it.

[astral moss]

Before people use the hipfire and used it like a shotgun.

[clear fossil]

ive died couple times because i expose myself when going to revive get to the body and the person leaves just as am about to revive them

and then i die because i went into the place with little cover and enemies push

[astral moss]

Then they remove the hipfire and nobody played it anymore.

[random nimbus]

The gun is incredibly unbalanced by design because an iron sight 50m one tap gun with a 550ms bullet would be the most frustrating and unbalanced thing to deal with

[mild flower]

the devil card did bring that back

[astral moss]

Need a tarot card to have a slug shotgun, nice.

[mild flower]

slug shotgun with 50m ohk range and does ridiculous damage to ai and doesn't need to be aimed down sights

[random nimbus]

Hell, I remember when slugs first came out and they were awful for the same damn reason. They one tapped WAY too far

And they didn't even have half the nitro one tap range at that time

[astral moss]

Aperture is good for the 50m range, but like you can't use the gun in close range cause of the hipfire.

[mild flower]

you can. just quick scope.

[random nimbus]

You can

Sweats do it all the time

[astral moss]

How ?
Its random anyway.

[random nimbus]

Go into high MMR lobbies and see how those people clap you with the nitro at all ranges and you'll see how strong it is.

[clear fossil]

maybe give nitro like 1 tap range little better than slugs and get rid of the annoying sights

[astral moss]

Nobody play Nitro in high mmr i am sorry.

[random nimbus]

LOL

[astral moss]

Not in Us west at least, idk about the madness in EU.

[mild flower]

what? quickscoping is random?

wdym?

[whole mist]

High MMR is mosin town, population: dolch p

[clear fossil]

nitro is strong if you practice it for a long time.. i guess

i hate it, the deviation makes me miss headshots and whatever else

[random nimbus]

It's not around as much since it's been nerfed

But that thing used to be everywhere

[astral moss]

The bullet didn't go in the center of the screen half of the time.

[mild flower]

you aren't quickscoping properly then

you are hipfiring

aim down sights for a little before shooting, let me record a video rq

[astral moss]

excatly, like what are you talking about nitro lol

[random nimbus]

Hell, the reason Shredder got the nerfs it did is because it was terrorizing high MMR lobbies like crazy

You wouldn't have a whole trio of them like Mosins, but it was very common for one person to have Nitro/DolchP

or Nitro/Uppercut

[astral moss]

Yeah and now its sh*t, good job.

[random nimbus]

It's not shit. It's more balanced.

[mild flower]

why are you censoring yourself

[random nimbus]

If you don't have the skillset to use it at its peak, then that's not the fault of the weapon.

[mild flower]

you are allowed to swear here

[clear fossil]

i think nitro serves nothing to the game right now as it is and i wouldnt care if it was removed... actually they could buff it and make it scarce and i would be fine

[astral moss]

While everyone play stupid weapon when they want to win being "balanced" isn't really a good thing.

[random nimbus]

That's a good indication that more things need to be nerfed, not buffing the stupid things back up again.

[mild flower]

so you suggest they buff other weapons to be just as overpowered as stuff like the mosin, instead of nerfing the overpowered weapons?

[astral moss]

I mean, nobody play it anyway, so at least its not a problem anymore.

[astral moss]

i would like the Mosin to be as bad as the Nitro.

[clear fossil]

yeah no onse plays it and for a reason whenever ive tried it i cant hit anything, and whenever enemies try t shoot me with it they cant hit anything

[whole mist]

What if….crytek took out long ammo for a whole week? I wonder what would happen

[clear fossil]

it should be made at least usable gun and them maybe made scarce if its too op

[astral moss]

I got the same feeling, you are more fighting against your weapon than against the other hunter.

[random nimbus]

I hate what scarce stuff has done. Just making the busted stuff less frequent doesn't solve the problem.

It's a bandaid

[astral moss]

Like i don't have the best aim but i can hit hunter at 50m, but not with the nitro.

[random nimbus]

It makes it even more frustrating to die to it because you don't have access to it as well

[clear fossil]

my only problem with it is that its just too hard to hit anything with, i dont care if its nerfed or buffed i just wish it was gun people would use

[mild flower]

@astral moss here, how to use the nitro at close range

[astral moss]

Do the same while not crouching.

[mild flower]

i'm literally not crouching in the video lmao

[random nimbus]

I do not. The design of the gun is incredibly frustrating and unfun to deal with. Nobody likes a one tap body gun

[mild flower]

look at my camera height

[clear fossil]

well thats why my main take was
reduce one tap range, buff the sights

[mild flower]

if i were crouching in that video, it would have looked like this and the crouching icon would have appeared in the bottom left.

[astral moss]

No but 149 body gun is totally fine i see.

[clear fossil]

make it more usable so people use it more but nerf it so its not so ridiculous

[random nimbus]

Then you remove its identity and just make it a slightly better slug gun

[mild flower]

yes, the difference between 149 damage and a one-shot is infinite

[clear fossil]

yeah and that i would be fine with

[astral moss]

being a better slug gun should be his identity.

[random nimbus]

Actually yes, since it's a Single Shot with the slowest reload per bullet and does NOT one tap a full HP hunter.

[astral moss]

Fast finger exist.

[random nimbus]

Still shoots slower than a Bolt Action without Iron Eye

[astral moss]

Still more played than the nitro, i wonder why.

[clear fossil]

as it stands im of the opinion that the gun needs to be changed to be more usable and more used
i like the idea of a higher power guns like it but it just doesnt get played at all and something should be done so that it would be a little more relevant

[mild flower]

because it's easier to use

[random nimbus]

Because it's not designed to be a weapon of such extremes.

[mild flower]

and cheaper, although price barely matters

[random nimbus]

Extreme payoffs mean extreme downsides.

[astral moss]

Yeah just play mosin i guess.

[random nimbus]

And being able to one tap at longer ranges than long ammo even holds damage is pretty strong

[astral moss]

2 tap at 100m is better balance than 1 tap at 50.

[random nimbus]

And a lot of us have been begging to have the Mosin nerfed too.

Because it obviously needs a nerf

Or like 3

[astral moss]

i mean i can take the sparks as a exemple if you want.

There is much gun better than the Nitro.

[random nimbus]

Let me know how often you two tap with a Sparks at 100m vs how often you one tap with a nitro.

[mild flower]

sparks and nitro aren't even comparable weapons what are you guys talking abt

[clear fossil]

sparks 2 taps like 10 times more than nitro 1 taps

[astral moss]

Sparks one tap more than the nitro, believe it or not.

[random nimbus]

It was more so a comparison of strengths with downsides.

Sparks does 149 damage but also shoots slow af.

[random nimbus]

It actually NEVER one taps to the torso on a 150 hunter.

[astral moss]

But 149 yes.

[random nimbus]

Because that's considered a feature specific to certain kinds of guns

149 ain't a one tap

[astral moss]

In most scenario it is.

Like imagine you got 1 hp of falling damage.

[random nimbus]

...wut? It literally is not.

Most people aren't running around with less than full HP

[mild flower]

good players will keep their health at max whenever possible in a pvp fight

[random nimbus]

Like, the OVERWHELMING majority of players do not running around missing HP

[heavy finch]

well. its easy to get them down 1 hp with various means

[astral moss]

Even your favorite streamer can got 1hp from grunt or anything.

[random nimbus]

How often do you tap someone with anything else before your sparks shot?

[heavy finch]

hivebomb and sparks or hellfire sparks are tight buddies

[heavy finch]

throwables and often.

[mild flower]

you have to actively try to get hit by a grunt tbh
cant remember the last time this happened to me

[random nimbus]

So something that will let pretty much any gun one tap someone and now the sparks isn't unique at all?

[astral moss]

Or got any burn damage before the fight, sparks will kill you.

[random nimbus]

There's almost no damage source that will not put you into one tap range of most rifles

[mild flower]

so will every long ammo rifle in the game??

[random nimbus]

Grunt attack? Long ammo guns will kill you

The meme of killing someone with a choke cloud after a sparks one tap is a meme because it's so specific and unrealistic in most circumstances.

[heavy finch]

uhm. its more so that you can rely on it being a onetap. not that other setups cant. so with a mosin depending on how close they are to impact then its a no. But with sparks its always gonna be onetap outside of limb shots.

[astral moss]

I would prefer a nitro that didn't one shot but didn't have the worst down side.

[mild flower]

that's not a nitro anymore, you're just asking for a completely different weapon

[clear fossil]

well realistically youre just looking for a drilling there?

[astral moss]

Like idk make the shredder ammo scarce.

[random nimbus]

There's almost no practical scenario where the damage they have done to them is so minor that a Sparks is what will kill them vs anything else.

[mild flower]

pretty sure they did

[random nimbus]

This is reaching of the highest order

[clear fossil]

non 1 tap nitro is just a drilling

[astral moss]

"Its the weapon identity" look like a good excuse to anything but his identity actually is to be awfull to play.

[clear fossil]

1 tap should 100% be its speciality no matter how its cahnged

[heavy finch]

there's plenty. But im not advocating for sparks being a good setup btw. im just saying it has a playstyle. Such as if you deal any fire damage you got minutes worth of assured onetaps. Id always take a mosin over sparks if im sweating

[random nimbus]

That last statement just invalidated everything you said before

[mild flower]

you're allowed to not enjoy the weapon without projecting it onto the weapon itself

[fickle maple]

if we're talking single shot rifles then i think the springfield is much better

[heavy finch]

No it doesnt. just read instead of interpret 😄

[astral moss]

Play the normal ammo then, one tap at 20m but weak after than.

[mild flower]

thank you for your input

[random nimbus]

If you want to be practical and efficient, you don't try to rely on specific damage that lets the sparks one tap someone

You just run a Mosin

[heavy finch]

agreed. dum dum bleed is so powerful because you gotta fix it immediedly

[astral moss]

The weapon itself isn't played so i am not the only one that don't like to fight the weapon more than the enemy.

[clear fossil]

what if they made a nitro variant with some god awful scope that had terrible FOV but high zoom and made it a sniper

[fickle maple]

that and it's reload is faster than the sparks

[clear fossil]

thats just a rival... and guess what thats one of my most played guns

[random nimbus]

Meaning the Sparks does NOT one tap anyone aside from very specific scenarios that you don't explicitly play around and it's better to just run a repeat fire gun like a Mosin

[heavy finch]

yea. sparks does have the wallbang advantage tho. which is a little more useful in 6star than bleed.

[mild flower]

people just don't like to let go of their mosins

the issue there is not nitro, it's mosin/the other meta guns

[fickle maple]

and the sparks is $150, while the springfield is like, $30, but that doesn't matter if you're getting bounties consistently

[astral moss]

And the rival is more played, maybe people want a weapon that isn't awfull to play.

[heavy finch]

sparks is already budget. springfield is uber budget

[fickle maple]

it may be budget, but i still love it

[clear fossil]

yeah im not figting against you in that? im just saying its 1 tap shouldnt be removed no matter what was cahnged

[heavy finch]

i love playing single shots. its just esthetically pleasing

[astral moss]

Even if they nerf mosin, nobody will play Nitro i am pretty sure.

[clear fossil]

because a nitro without a 1 tap is just either drilling or rival

[fickle maple]

yeah, single shots are just really fun to use

especially with hipfire

[mild flower]

no, they will play krag, lebel and crown

which also need nerfs :(

[random nimbus]

They are, but they're also pretty weak compared to their repeat fire brothers

[clear fossil]

also why does the cycle rate of sparks pistol feel so ridiculously fast

is it just me?

[random nimbus]

They buffed the reload like crazy

[astral moss]

Even if they nerf everything at the power of the actual nitro, nobody will play it.

[mild flower]

do you have a reason to believe that or are you just saying that would be the case because yes

[astral moss]

Cause i try those weapon and only the Nitro make me feel i am fighting against it.

[mild flower]

i didnt know that, is it much faster than regular sparks now?

[mild flower]

this comes back around to you just not liking the weapon. 'tis not for you

[random nimbus]

It's closer to Martini reloads now

[mild flower]

ooh

[astral moss]

#hunt-general message

[clear fossil]

do you hate the idea of any gun above 125 dmg or something

also why not betterli in your list of nerfs then

[astral moss]

i never see the Nitro in my game and i finally understand why.

[random nimbus]

I do for long ammo

I don't want repeating long ammo to do more than 125 damage

[mild flower]

no, just the overtuned meta bolt actions in that list

[random nimbus]

The fire rate buff for the Vetterli was pretty nutty

[mild flower]

tru

[random nimbus]

It's a legit spam gun now

[clear fossil]

its same as krag but more dmg

and way more ammo

[random nimbus]

That was prior to the buff, but I think now it's much faster

[mild flower]

This is the best example of circular reasoning atp, let's just let it go

[random nimbus]

Krag was 1.4 and Vetterli was 1.3, iirc

[mild flower]

krag is long ammo and has higher velocity iirc? feel free to correct me on that if im wrong

but yeah vetterli rof buff wasn't needed imo

it was already a balanced and popular weapon

[random nimbus]

I think they mean the fire rate was the same as Krag

[mild flower]

#hunt-general message i feel like this message suggests otherwise

suggests a whole stat comparison

[random nimbus]

But it was in reference to me saying it was a spam gun now

[dawn surge]

to be fair i think the Krag was the one weapon that actually suited the 124 damage

[random nimbus]

That it spams like the Krag but with more ammo and more damage

[dawn surge]

it had a perfect niche but the devs just can't handle the idea of a long ammo gun not 1-shotting you when missing a small bar

the buff was unnecessary

[random nimbus]

The Krag was a balanced long ammo gun at 124

But balanced vs the rest just means weak

[dawn surge]

i don't think its krag vs long ammo but more Krag vs Mosin

[random nimbus]

And then they hyper buffed it to 18 bullets and 126 damage

[tired coyote]

cent has small ammo but have same dmg with maco. what is the difference ?

[dawn surge]

medium ammo

[random nimbus]

Mako does 128 damage

[dawn surge]

also cent does less damage

[random nimbus]

Cent is medium ammo, 123 damage and 600ms. Mako is long ammo, 128 damage and 530ms.

Mako will also shoot slower and have a lot less bullets

[clear fossil]

i just think some balance decisions in this game are a little weird, like vetterli/krag comparison or Auto5 to any other shotgun except terminus which just needs lots of traits

[random nimbus]

There's a lot of bloat

[dawn surge]

like i fucking hate how every long ammo gun since the lebel was released in a balanced state, because the Mosin is the blatantly overpowered choice between all long ammo weapons

[tired coyote]

low ms better right?

[random nimbus]

Higher is always better

But sometimes what you trade for higher velocity might not be worth it

Higher velocity means less lead times and less need to train yourself with slower speeds

[heavy finch]

lower ms is better. gives people more time to think about what theyve done before it hits

[random nimbus]

And usually better drop

At least with velocity changes between the gun itself and its different ammo types

[clear fossil]

also how come HV ammo reduces dmg but at the same time takes more space?

[random nimbus]

Because they overnerfed HV ammo

[dawn surge]

Martini Henry - really balanced, you can even argue its a weak gun
Berthier - 3 shots, 130 damage, quick reload
Krag - boasts great rate of fire but 124 damage, quick precise shots that rewards headshots
Mako - the only long ammo gun i do think is actually really bad, but i rather a bad long ammo weapon than an OP one
Haymaker - 124 like the Uppercut, it being a medium slot is kinda eh but has a great rate of fire

did i miss any other long ammo gun

[random nimbus]

Berthier is 133 damage now

[dawn surge]

oh i'm talking about their launch versions

but yeh

[random nimbus]

Ahhh myb

[dawn surge]

i'm saying that every long ammo gun since the lebel were released and didn't feel blatantly OP

[random nimbus]

They've been on a crusade to buff everything to Mosin levels

It's honestly ridiculous

There is ZERO reason the Berthier should have 21 bullets.

And 133 damage

[dawn surge]

I would gladly have a crusade to nerf the fucking Mosin i am so tired of that gun hamstringing the balance of other weapons

or ruining their identity

like the krag buff

[random nimbus]

It would have been a lot easier to just nerf the Mosin vs buffing everything else

[dawn surge]

like the dolch nerf?

amazing

was a very hard hitting nerf

[random nimbus]

Oh god, old dolch was nutty

Hard to believe people thought it was balanced

Damn thing did 110 damage, same as a winnie

On a spam sidearm

[dawn surge]

was medium ammo in early access too

[clear fossil]

i tried dolch, i cant hit shit with it sights i dont even know why but i have better time with derringer as my sidearm than dolch

[random nimbus]

It still has medium ammo stats

[dawn surge]

Dolch does have a bit of a hard kick

it has medium ammo stats but uses special ammo

[random nimbus]

Back then it didn't have near as much sway

[dawn surge]

but old old dolch was proper medium ammo it could've been stacked with the vetterli

[random nimbus]

And there was no sway penalty for spamming

Dolch P still feels a lot like old dolch

[clear fossil]

does the dolch have a lot of sway or does it just feel like it

[torn temple]

Hello guys, i have big problem. 0x30001 Error, i did everything but it wont work, and also says that "Integrity failure we have detected that u are using unauthorized driver settings." can somebody help me with this?

[random nimbus]

It sways a lot the more you shoot it

Double actions and semi auto pistols have an increased sway penalty for fast repeat fire

Meaning the Spitfire is exempt from that problem.

[clear fossil]

hmm cant be that then either, whenever i try dolch i cant even land my sights on the enemy even before firing a shot

[random nimbus]

I personally don't feel it sways a lot before firing, but that could be me.

[clear fossil]

i have been trying to figure out what mys problem with that gun is

[random nimbus]

You also have increased sway when you first draw your sidearm

You can thank the QS nerfs for that.

[random nimbus]

Might want to try the Troubleshooting section of the discord.

[dawn surge]

1.14 the death of hunt showdown /s

[random nimbus]

Wasn't that 1.4.4?

[dawn surge]

ah whatever it was i just remember the clowns crying about it

[random nimbus]

Too many damn patch numbers

Oh the QS nerf absolutely blew up the discord

[clear fossil]

welp i have never managed to use the dolch or the bornheim that well
all my friends swear by them but i cant really use either of them, i just stick to my new army or spitfire

[dawn surge]

stick to what works with u ye

i always use the pax trueshot since its a budget uppercut

[random nimbus]

Some guns just feel better to use.

Trueshot feels great

now if only the best skin didn't have Hardin's face slapped on it

[clear fossil]

hmm what gun should i use for this prestige

last prestige i played marathon, the one before that rival

what would be cool to use now

[random nimbus]

Bornheim Match

[clear fossil]

does anyone else just default to a single gun for most of a prestige

[dawn surge]

i use the drilling

very flexible gun

[random nimbus]

I wouldn't know because I don't prestige

[clear fossil]

damn

[strong moon]

the drilling is a good gun

[clear fossil]

drilling is good i swear the MV tho somehow fucks my aim

but its really fun to have a strong shotgun attached to a strong double barrel rifle

[astral moss]

(Unlike Nitro.)

[mild flower]

even without the shotgun half i think drilling would still be a pretty decent weapon

[strong moon]

i'm allergic to spending money so i never buy it

but i'll happily pick one up

a non-drilling non-nitro double rifle would be a fine addition

also fuck it, add in a vierling

[clear fossil]

i would probably be happier with drilling if they removed the shotgun and improved the dmg by 2 and increased MV a little

[mild flower]

is that the drilling with two shotgun barrels and one rifle barrel?

[strong moon]

no, a vierling is four barrels

two rifle, two shotgun

[mild flower]

but that's not what a drilling is though

[strong moon]

drei = three and vier=four

[clear fossil]

ik i just say i would be happier with it if it was just a double barreled rifle

[strong moon]

a double shotgun/single rifle drilling would be fun too, like they had in BF5

[mild flower]

ah ok, that's just not a drilling anymore tho

[strong moon]

plenty of double rifles exist, they could put one in, that'd actually fill a niche I think

[mild flower]

so you would want a different gun completely

[mild flower]

they should add a nitro express, that would be cool

[astral moss]

When nock volley gun in hunt ?

[astral moss]

(For the one that don't know what it is.)

[clear fossil]

well id just like a double barreled rifle that had the 122 or 123 dmg needed to 2 shot into any limb and or maybe little higher MV

they could even make it long ammo so it would be more reasonable/balanced if rapid fire 2 taps to anywhere was too strong for medium ammo

[mild flower]

what

how would long ammo make it weaker

[clear fossil]

not weaker but make ammo less avaivable

so you cant just spam ammo because then you run out

[mild flower]

ammo availability means barely anything right now, hence why long ammo is meta. ammo boxes are everywhere and there's even a tool for it, also event ammo

[light sky]

Drilling??

[mild flower]

making something long ammo is a buff

not nerf

[chrome stratus]

Oh brother

[clear fossil]

because of its increased dmg dropoff?

[chrome stratus]

Haven't played in a couple weeks so I thought it'd be fun to pick Hunt back up and I got sniper by a giggles before I even saw any of them

[clear fossil]

so basically you just want dmg drop off for long ammo guns reduced is that it

[mild flower]

damage dropoff and penetration. also when you make something long ammo it's kind of assumed you also increase its damage because that's generally how the game works but you might not have meant that

also velocity generally, but again, might not have meant that

[mild flower]

no

[strong moon]

no

[clear fossil]

well like i said i just wish the game had a double barrel rifle that had slightly better dmg/ MV than drilling

[strong moon]

Nitro PREMIUM

[astral moss]

Ngl, that's a good idea, don't know why they didn't think about it.

[clear fossil]

my problem with drilling is that i dont really ever need the shotgun and drillings MV is somehow in an annoying place that its too slow and too fast

for me to shoot it

[light sky]

[mild flower]

Does nitro count technically

[left orbit]

me and teammate got wiped by a trio after we got a kill and started burning the body
they stayed hidden in bushed forever, they would have let their friend burn down rather than playing -.-

[clear fossil]

well its there but ive said so many times i hate nitro because its 1. unusable sights and 2. too much of a meme gun anyways

[light sky]

Is this bait chat?

[mild flower]

I do feel u here with the not needing shotgun and wanting to spec more into the rifle part. I feel similar about wanting a non-shotgun single action revolving carbine like a pax

[astral moss]

What is "Nitro" ?
Why are we talking about car here.

[mild flower]

No

There was a whole discussion before

Seemed pretty genuine to me

[light sky]

I will banish then

[mild flower]

Gonna add a new rule to the server: No opinions that spooky disagrees with (bannable no appeal)

[silk shoal]

Sounds like my usual role to be fair. But I can at least pretend that I'm helping

[astral moss]

You shouldn't be afraid to play my friend.

[chrome stratus]

@light sky opinion on my idea of incendiary ammo burning as much as it deals?

[light sky]

Downvote

[light sky]

Fr

[twin galleon]

how i sthis possible

[silk shoal]

Who's afraid? Not me. I just annoyed at other players that look scared to engage in the PvP part of the game

[peak mulch]

Is anybody else having an issue purchasing blood bonds on pc?

[silk shoal]

It's not like it's hard to level up one's character anymore

[clear fossil]

but yeah its my time to go to bed.... but yeah
its been my take on drilling that i wished they exchanged the shotgun to a small buff for the rifle barrels but i dont actually want drilling modified just a new gun introduced

[light sky]

Activate Windows

[chrome stratus]

Poison ammo causes a disease to break out applying the damage to teammates as well
Dumdum will continuously drain your health to 1hp of your current chunk till the end of the match
Explosive ammo obliterates bodies and they can't be revived
FMJ doubles its damage for each material it passes through
HV becomes hitscan

[light sky]

Why are you so eager to get banned smh

/s

[tired coyote]

which lever gun is the best for long range ?

not shotgun

[light sky]

Mako

[astral moss]

Or centi.

[tranquil dawn]

Day 6 of playing hunt showdown

A D D I C T I O N

[light sky]

Welcome to the club

[steep narwhal]

I think I'm getting sick and tired of playing the game

what a ripoff I only got 3000 hours worth of play time

[opal dawn]

Ask for a refund

[steep narwhal]

yeah 100% will do

can't believe this

[astral moss]

Refund after 3k hour lol

[south shore]

I refuse

[sick temple]

It is literally normal

[opal dawn]

[light sky]

I refuse your refusal

[tranquil dawn]

After 27 hours of play time I realized all KnC user can’t aim properly

[sick temple]

Borheim match can only two tap close and in torso

You hit arm

and since 80 + 55 = 135 a hunter has 150 hp

3 tap

[tranquil dawn]

Wait I thought you have 200 hp

[astral moss]

Tips: Don't hit the arm.

[astral moss]

No.

[opal dawn]

If you go for headshots, cent + HV

[tranquil dawn]

Dayum new knowledge

[light sky]

A big bar is 50 HP

A small bar 25

[sick temple]

Useless tip, compact ammo doesnt pierce limbs

unless fmj is on the table (which doesnt exist for borheim)

possible scenario is the dude was already aiming at him at he shot at a limb thinking it could get to torso

its just bad luck

[opal dawn]

fmj? more like fm YAY

[peak mulch]

Does anybody know why I am unable to purchase blood bonds on pc?

[light sky]

Do you have the steam overlay on?

[peak mulch]

Yes I do

[tranquil dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-credit-card-debt-credit-card-debt-gif-27305263

[peak mulch]

?

[light sky]

Restart steam

[tranquil dawn]

Nah it just a joke man

[whole furnace]

What is the issue?

[peak mulch]

Okay I will try thanks

[astral moss]

Or he just miss his shot, can happen.

[sick temple]

He didnt miss the shot, he killed him, look at the screenshot

3 tap

which is the most normal scenario with borheim match

[chrome stratus]

Hunt has more current players than destiny 2 rn

Holy cow Bungie fucked up this time

I mean they have for years but it still always had a solid playerbase

[opal dawn]

Can't spell Bungie without Bungle

[chrome stratus]

I've never seen it THAT LOW before

[south shore]

https://tenor.com/view/you-can't-do-this-to-me-you-know-how-much-i-sacrificed-norman-osborn-spiderman-you-cant-do-this-to-me-gif-17962982899044373025

[opal dawn]

I unrefuse Koras refusal

[astral moss]

Destiny 2 must be dead then.

[heavy finch]

when will they add more historical american melee weapons?

[opal dawn]

I wanna see a wahukeza added, a bloody spontoon!

[astral moss]

Still waiting for it, but i think its hard to add a new melee weapon that didn't look like the other and have his own identity.

[dense girder]

What is that skin?

[opal dawn]

Could be Hawkshaw Jack

Or Private Eye, think they have somewhat similar hands

[dense girder]

DLC skins?

[opal dawn]

Should be BB skins

[proven raptor]

Or Statesman.

[opal dawn]

Hmm yeah, could be statelad as well

[heavy finch]

how bout a whip?

[astral moss]

already thought about it, i personally think i can be a good idea.

[dense girder]

Looks like it

Darn it, BP skin

[dense girder]

Maybe some dual wield daggers would be cool

[spark finch]

and a nae nae?

[heavy finch]

i mean. there's gonna be a bunch of redneck skin + whip players. but id love it

[tidal haven]

only this one

[bright plover]

What does LF2 and LF1 and whatever else there is mean? I can imagine 4* is just 4 stars, as in MMR, but I don't understand the rest of the code.

[tawny frost]

the fucl whatwho

[opal dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[tidal haven]

it's a whip :c

[tawny frost]

im boutta whip u in a sec

[tidal haven]

[bright plover]

My first trio was a 5 star, so I kinda sucked, eventually just pulling my weight at least (like 1-2 kills while dying 1-2 times), and while watching them position was educational, I don't want to be a deadweight.

[opal dawn]

lf1 means they're looking for 1 more, 2 means 2

[bright plover]

How does LF translate into it, huh?

Left f-...?

[opal dawn]

Looking For

[humble mirage]

looking for

[bright plover]

looking for?

Oh

Good, ty

[tawny frost]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-shut-stupid-slap-slapping-gif-18382942

[astral moss]

i don't really see the utility with that beside the high attack rate maybe.

Or a movement mecanic exclusiv to this double dagger.

[opal dawn]

You could throw one dagger

[velvet trellis]

for what is the +10% event boost on some hunters for me ? Is it for exp ?

[tawny frost]

btw i found a way to make baby red barrels infinite, but im not sharing it with any crytek teeam unless im paid

[opal dawn]

10% extra event points

[tidal haven]

Damn, same though tbh

[velvet trellis]

the points that give pledge marks ?

[tawny frost]

https://tenor.com/view/wuh-cat-cat-meme-confused-gif-17768241876164656273

[astral moss]

Could be an idea.

[tidal haven]

Yea, it's pretty easy. You put one down, then go find another

infinite

[opal dawn]

Yeah, so every 10 points you earn you get 11 instead. Makes it faster to get through the battlepass

[tawny frost]

that is not the way gang

it explodes and its still there

[velvet trellis]

alr

but why is it always on my hex breaker ?

[opal dawn]

They choose certain Hunters that would fit for the event

[velvet trellis]

ohh i see, ty

[opal dawn]

Next time it could be a different set of ones

[dense girder]

You could throw them, perhaps with some poison soaked edges or something, like a mix between throwing knives and the throwing spear

[astral moss]

Yeah but when i say melee "weapon" i mean actual weapon, not tool like the spear.

[dense girder]

Hm, I guess

Zweihänder when?

[astral moss]

i still think the spear should be a weapon slot and not a tool.

[scenic plinth]

oo yeah

[dense girder]

Slower attack speed than katana and no stab, but bigger range and damage Ig?

Idk, would be dope

[astral moss]

More range than the katana sound insane, i would like it.

[heady scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/vim-world-vim-ehrt-vi-mfam-gif-19424106

That’s not how you spell Vietnam

[bright girder]

do vitshots not cure burning?

I couldve sworn they are meant to?

[fathom shale]

I think they stop active burning but don't clear out charred hp

[bright girder]

hm

ugh what the fuck I hate nvidia highlights

it was supposed to record my death whatever. I just used a vitshot anyway and it didn't cure my active burning

[astral moss]

It stop the effect but didn't get the hp burn back.

[bright girder]

yeah ok so that's a bug then

god does anyone know what causes nvidia highlights to not record things

its so annoying when i need something to record for something like this and it doesnt randomly

[fathom shale]

Just use instant replay, not limited to kills/deaths and more space efficient since you only clip what you want to

[bright girder]

idk its weird because every time I turn on instant replay it turns itself off for some reason

but ig its never been consistent because highlights dont record either. it used to be like it would record and you'd pick which ones to save but now it just records liteally everything ever since it changed from like, geforce experience to nvidia or whateve

that sucks cause thats kind of an egregious bug I would have loved to have reported.

[astral moss]

The cleans effect prock with the heal, maybe you barely miss the timing before dying.

[bright girder]

no like it used the shot cause i got my health back

I got my health back but kept burning

its very cool that nvidia just sucks :(

[bright plover]

How do I check my own MMR?

[unreal zinc]

after a match in the team details

[bright plover]

What does lf2m? Looking for 2, sure, but what does the "m" mean?

[empty eagle]

more

[bright plover]

Hm.

[empty eagle]

idk why

lol

[bright plover]

A FAQ of these abbreviations would be useful.

But oh well

[dense girder]

Hot singles

[south shore]

Btbafalt

Nrwhskt

[south shore]

But I dont see any around

[opal dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/skeptical-futurama-fry-hmmm-i-got-my-eyes-on-you-gif-17101711

[dense girder]

Look in the mirror

[south shore]

[hasty wharf]

they don't stop burning, only bleeding once the shot activates (doesnt pause damage during animation like bandaging)

[granite blade]

you can still choose which ones to save

you do it in the overlay top left -> click video you want to save -> click the folder icon -> move video to wherever you want it saved -> done. you can set your available disk space to a somewhat low amount so that its only about a sessions worth and then it will delete whatever is the oldest to stay within that available space.

as for it turning itself off, im not sure why yours is doing that so you may have to go on a bug hunt to see if anyone else has experienced something similar and if/how they fixed it.

[olive anvil]

is there a way to see if i have been matched with a premade duo when im searching for random trios ?

[granite blade]

ask

or check their friends list

[olive anvil]

sure, got nothing better to do in my life

[granite blade]

takes maybe 10 seconds

[south shore]

Obviously

Youre playing hunt

You ain't doing shit

[south shore]

Hi apple

Lap

Alp

A

[olive anvil]

what a weird community, thanks cran anyway

[granite blade]

no problem man

[south shore]

Cran

[astral moss]

Rude but true.

[south shore]

At least hes playing something

Im stuck at work

[olive anvil]

how would you know whats true, contratrary to what tiktok tells you, your imagination is not truth

[south shore]

?

[astral moss]

Bro have 60 years.

[south shore]

I don't even have a tiktok

Or a Facebook

[astral moss]

Same.

[south shore]

Or a Twitter

[empty eagle]

sqamer

[south shore]

Sqamer?

[astral moss]

The brainrot doesn't affect me.

[empty eagle]

same

[south shore]

Oh lmao

[dense girder]

minor spelling correction

[south shore]

I generate my own brainrot

[astral moss]

Same, i play hunt.

[south shore]

[dense girder]

Man Specter and Uppercut FMJ is goated

[south shore]

Like you

[dense girder]

am in a match and can't find the gif, but just imagine a cat hug kissing you

[south shore]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-11816971814746635421

[dense girder]

yesss that one

[granite blade]

Kora

[south shore]

Yes?

Ok ill go to prom with you

[wild niche]

server crash?

[quasi fjord]

your lucky

[flat obsidian]

that lamp was gonna be your head

[wild niche]

HAHAHAHAA

thats so funny

[quasi fjord]

had my iron sight on your friends dome 😛

[tired coyote]

who planted 5 soul bomb next to the spider nest

[wild niche]

lmao wasnt ready for the shotgun gonna be honest

[quasi fjord]

lol im shneaky with it

[dense girder]

ugh, could've been so many more If my over-confident ass didn't think I'd win a sniper battle against a HV Maynard

[granite blade]

https://tenor.com/view/fionapawprint-peter-griffin-the-sound-of-music-christa-paffgen-gif-9243629211525344145

[bright plover]

I might be crazy, but don't bullets from Krag sem weirdly slow compared ot other long ammo rifles?

[astral moss]

[bright plover]

590. Same as my latest favourite, Berthier. Weird.

[raven totem]

oh you're one of those fmj people

[severe sand]

what is the best graphics option about super resolution between nothing and AMD, AA natif 0,5 ??

[raven totem]

best as in?

sorry just woke up

I run native right now personally

[atomic coral]

I have a 1440p (32:9) and run 100% res with Quality FSR upscaling

[normal hare]

!tarot

[graceful hedge]

**The Chariot: **Swaps Locked and Unlocked Extraction Points for all teams (only in Bounty Hunt). Destroys 1 Health Chunk. This ability has a five-minute global cooldown and can’t be used during the last five minutes of the Mission.
The Devil: Reduces the sway and spread (excluding shotguns) for weapons until your Hunter is downed, then destroys an additional Health Chunk.
The Empress: Grants the Catalyst Trait, the Necromancer Trait, and one random Burn or Scarce Trait.
The Fool: Copies the last Tarot Card you used this Mission.
The Garden: Fully heals and removes Bleeding, Burning, and Poison for you and your teammates.
The Hanged Man: Allows you to spectate the nearest enemy Hunter for a limited time. The spectated Hunter hears a warning afterwards.
Judgement: Doubles time of all current buffs. Reduces your Hunter’s HP to 1.
The Magician: Places a Dark Sight Decoy at your location causes Heavy Bleeding on use.
The Moon: Grants 2 seconds of Dark Sight Boost
The Sun: Grants an increased Regeneration buff for 60 seconds.
The Tower: Kills Monsters and damages Targets within a 65m radius. Your Hunter catches on fire.
The World: Reveals all Boss Targets.

[desert acorn]

Was thinking... What if extraction with bounty let's you spectate if you want?

[south shore]

Could let you ghost for friends who also happen to be in the same lobby

[astral moss]

OMG !!!!!!

[desert acorn]

Full team extraction only

[astral moss]

finally i can have the horse guy that i forgot his name.

[south shore]

Your friends dont have to be on your team to be in the lobby

[south shore]

Horse Guyman

[astral moss]

Eh yeah the guys with the sac on his head.

[next mesa]

New Tarot card idea: Lock all ammo/tool boxes for 5 minutes within 200m of your position

[raven totem]

I don't mean to be a party pooper yet but we don't know if they're doing all the hunters this time around yet

[astral moss]

Why are you trying to make me sad ?

[south shore]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

Theyre locked for you too

[raven totem]

I'm not just trying to set realistic expectations

so it's not big sad later

[astral moss]

New tarot card: every gun can't fire untill one player died.

[raven totem]

it looks like normal hunters in it already so they don't seem to be teasing anything new on that front

[next mesa]

New Tarot card idea: If card holder has the bounty, killing a hunter with a headshot restores 1 second of dark sight boost.

[astral moss]

Look weak ngl.

[south shore]

Ngl I like this one

[astral moss]

Stop !!!!!

[south shore]

Its not overly powerful

[astral moss]

Mr Glide is mean to me, somebody help.

[urban steppe]

huh

[south shore]

https://tenor.com/view/muneh-rdr2-arthur-morgan-gif-20022681

[visual lynx]

Huuuh, how does beartrap kill two people when it activates O_O

[astral moss]

They were 2 in it when it triggerd.

[south shore]

20 minutes until I can leave work

[modern pebble]

is it possible for someone to fucking destroy the server or

[south shore]

This server?

[heady scroll]

Who tf gave Arthur such drip for this mission

[modern pebble]

why does the game encourage being a camper so much man

i wipe the entire lobby and some krag silenced weirdo outside of lair kills me

[worn oak]

Yeah, Right! Good gaming chair i suppose.

[modern pebble]

why is the krag borderline fully silent now anyways

oh but solo is too strong guys

you can die ONCE and maybe revive

[ancient cave]

yes

[modern pebble]

i mean connection wise

i just had the most unplayable game

[ancient cave]

I'm saying yes

[modern pebble]

and i forgot to clip it but basically trust me

[modern pebble]

then this sucks

that was sabotage

[strong moon]

recommended view distance ratio/lights/vegetation setting?

[south shore]

Our favorite pretty boy is always dripped out

[tame magnet]

Or that’s just hunt lol

[untold stag]

can i win the next giveaway pls

whoever runs the giveaways pls i gave a homeless man 50 bucks 3 months ago

so technically i should get 50 bucks in return

cause you get what you give

[light sky]

Better luck next time 😔

[untold stag]

😔

[granite blade]

i know this was a bit ago but personally i use dlaa and its cool

wait no, its whatever the amd version is

i forgor

oh you had it right, native aa. i use 0.1

[gilded pecan]

makes perfect sense 🤡

[granite blade]

it does, look at match mmr

[gilded pecan]

it doesn't

the match mmr IS what doesn't make sense here

[granite blade]

personal mmr doesnt matter anymore, its about match mmr

[gilded pecan]

yeah, still

[granite blade]

match mmr is similar to the old system

[ocean briar]

how do you report people for teaming?

[gilded pecan]

if they are solo, it's not that big of a deal

[granite blade]

if a trio of 6s are on a good enough losing streak but their personal mmr was high enough, they could drop a few match mmr stars without losing personal

[ocean briar]

its soul survivor

[gilded pecan]

oh

weird

[granite blade]

in the old hunt, the average of that teams mmr would be about 4 1/2

[gilded pecan]

based on what ?!

how is calculated the "match mmr" ?

[granite blade]

based on their current match mmr which is similar to the old mmr system

its volatile

[light sky]

Teaming is not an offense unless it is done outside the game

[granite blade]

of course, different from the old system, its actually more volatile in the other direction now

[light sky]

Let's say, not organicly

[gilded pecan]

you did everything but explaining that system xD sorry

[granite blade]

its more volatile, things make the numbers change more

bad streaks result in more loss of mmr

[light sky]

I was playing randoms and team up with a duo, we killed the lobby and split bounties

[ocean briar]

I cant prove it wasnt organic but in SS? I highly doubt, so I think reporting encase crytek spot a pattern is the best choice

[granite blade]

but personal isnt as volatile but also doesnt really matter anymore since match mmr is what really matters now

[light sky]

Teaming is easier to happen in Soul Survivor

Everyone is alone

[granite blade]

so those guys you fought arent 6s

they average around 4 1/2

[light sky]

But yeah, feel free to report it in-game

[granite blade]

at least right now

[ocean briar]

but there can only be one winner and Ive never encoutered anyone in SS who doesnt shoot on sight since there is only one objective

[light sky]

Some people don't care, they just like fun and are willing to give the other person the win

And winning soul Survivor is like, doesn't matter

You don't lose anything

[granite blade]

if you ever notice that the match mmr is way different between you and a different team and you are on a high pop server, then its worth calling weird

but yea, right now match mmr is all that really matters

[unique trail]

Hi guys should I play hunt today

[ocean briar]

its more the annoyance at the cheating/general subverting of the game mode, disadvantages other players, these guys didnt actually get me, I just spotted them while flicking through the other players, that pair went on to crush everyone by getting the wellspring and baiting people with it so the other person could surprise attack them

[ancient cave]

were they talking ingame

[gilded pecan]

well I don't know about all this but I've just played like 20 games and haven't had fun in any of those, like 20 real games, not a single win. Maybe one team wipe (thanks to my mates) but after that next team wipes us. 20 games in a row without having a single slice of fun. I have 3580 hours played on Hunt and I'm oscillating between 5 stars and 6 stars, I will never understand how I can have such pathetic sessions somedays

it really feels like the game constantly puts me in lobbies full of players that have twice my skill

[light sky]

Teaming, again is allowed when organic and happened in-game

[granite blade]

happens to almost everyone tbh. i have learned that trying to equate a streamer's success to "normal" is just a bad idea. i had one of those days fairly recently as well but i didnt drop out of 6 and our team mmr dropped to like solid 4 with both of us being personal 6. even in that 4 match mmr, we were still pretty much not doing good. its just how it is sometimes.

[light sky]

If you can prove it was intentional matchmaking teaming, then provide proof to Customer support

[granite blade]

even without solid proof, customer support would probably still take a look given enough unique reports i'd hope

[light sky]

Like, teaming with 2 random guys and making a team of 5 for sure sucks for the rest of the server. But there are a lot of variables, like being betrayed

[light sky]

They do

[gilded pecan]

yeah it's so weird man, like if the game had given me at least ONE decent game I would have just called it for the night but it seemed like it really wanted me to ragequit instead

[light sky]

Just report in-game and that's it

[spark plaza]

amogus

[granite blade]

yea... those nights suck. personally i just grab the fly swatter and beat a pig with it until the dopamine rush helps me get over it if you catch my drift.(i hope this is vague enough that the mods allow it 🙏 )

[light sky]

Hop on

[spark plaza]

just got home from 2 week job, no 🙂‍↔️

[granite blade]

evading taxes and a request from a mod, really looking for trouble eh?

spooky, the van is ready whenever you need it

[light sky]

Lol

[frigid ibex]

Ok hop on

[spark plaza]

no 🙂‍↔️

[spark plaza]

Not the first time I do it either

[frigid ibex]

for me

[desert acorn]

How about as a new item, oil flasks? They leave flammable grease in the ground.

[astral moss]

Would be a poison bomb but with fire.

[desert acorn]

No fire. Just grease on the ground.

[astral moss]

But why ?

[desert acorn]

There are many strategic uses for such a tool. And make it a tool with 3 uses, or so.

[astral moss]

Can you explain your idea ?

[dawn cipher]

He's trying to greasem up

[desert acorn]

Boia... You a hunter, or you a CoD fish? 😉

[astral moss]

[desert acorn]

You can use it to hold a bigger choke. Myriad trap uses. And you can burn more than one body at a time

[sick temple]

Gas can from gta

terrible idea

unless you are 3* you wont be able to take a walk with the body and burn it, and if you do so, its pointless

fuses and flaregun already do that better

[desert acorn]

Take a walk with a body and burn it? What does that even mean?

[astral moss]

i mean, if its big enough to don't fully nullified by a choke it can have his utility.

[sick temple]

Means walking to the body and pouring the liquid

[visual lynx]

Guys, is this a known bug? :ooo there is a trait stuck in a stone in the mines on Mammon Gulch 😮

[sick temple]

nobody does that, you peek fast and burn

[desert acorn]

That's one possible use. And you incorrect... Psychoghost uses alert trip mines to burn bodies

[astral moss]

If it can block a way it can be good.

Like fire isn't only to burn body.

[desert acorn]

The bottle of oil would be a thrown flask

[sick temple]

???

[astral moss]

Yeah and imagine you can connect them.

[sick temple]

You can burn bodies with trip mines, of course

but it is worse, as you have to put the trap and be near the body

which is not always possible

[astral moss]

Like you do a big path of fire.

[sick temple]

You can prefire with DB, and its still a terrible ammo

I dont get your point

[astral moss]

#hunt-general message

• Body burn faster while in the middle of a fire.

[desert acorn]

It's a single use of a multiple use item. Like trip mines. I bring them every time. They're versatile

[sick temple]

Spaguetti codes, water molotov gets negated by choke, unless they code it to "ignore" this flask somehow

which i doubt, wont be seen replacing flare gun anytime soon

[desert acorn]

Why would you replace an item you're trying to enhance?

[sick temple]

Because you dont bring two items (specially tools) that do the same function

[astral moss]

i already never use flare gun.

[sick temple]

And if you do, they are plain dumb

You dont see people with fuses + flare gun

straight up trolling is one thing, or for funsies

but it has 0 purpose

[desert acorn]

Psychoghost Brings gun and mines

[sick temple]

You keep mentioning him

He was a 4 star pre 1896

He is not a good played compared* to the likes of hornet for example

Also, he is trying to create content

which is obvious, it is his work

[astral moss]

I prefer Psychoghost.

[desert acorn]

I as well.

He's more creative

[sick temple]

Yes, lower brackets allow more creativity

[desert acorn]

That's the point of this game. I'm not here to play cod

[sick temple]

High elo isnt played like cod btw

[desert acorn]

Lower than the top 1 percent is where most of us are, friend.

[sick temple]

i dont know why players compare knowing-when-to-rotate/flank to "playing cod"

[sick temple]

Still, my point stands

[desert acorn]

I'm talking about making the game better, not making the Meta better

[sick temple]

People dont bring same tools that do the same function

You dont see people with flares and fuses, as it is useless

You bring either one of them, not both

[astral moss]

i hope i will taste this one day.

[desert acorn]

Are you a bot?

[sick temple]

You dont bring 2 melees unless you are starting at the game

Same reason

Who do you know at 6 that brings 2 melees?

[desert acorn]

Fusees and flare are literally two versions of the same thing.

[astral moss]

I mean, you don't even understand the point of his idea.

[sick temple]

Can you read

[astral moss]

Like fire isn't only to burn corpse.

[sick temple]

That is exactly the point

They do the same thing

Hence you dont bring em both

Already stated

You bring only 1

[astral moss]

It look more like a molotov than a flare gun.

[desert acorn]

You aren't even talking. You're just making noise.

[sick temple]

Im typing actually

[desert acorn]

Make an effort understand what I'm talking about. Then join the conversation.

[sinful aurora]

ayo, lets keep it respectful guys.

[sick temple]

99% chances it is, even fire bombs are in disuse as any type of explosive does the job

this is why people throw frags and bundles at you, and not mollys

[astral moss]

No it isn't, a new way to block path could be a good idea.

[desert acorn]

What are you even talking about? Even high MMR often die because they're on fire.

[sick temple]

Fire cant kill you

[desert acorn]

Not directly

[sick temple]

you need to be burning half and hour

[astral moss]

it didn't need to.

[sick temple]

xd

[desert acorn]

Dude... Are you trolling?

[heavy finch]

Never saw anyone in 6 run fire

[sick temple]

Same, unless they are tagged by fire long ammo, never

[heavy finch]

frag bombs and shots for days

[astral moss]

i have a build for that.

[sick temple]

But this dude is making scenarios

[desert acorn]

But I've seen them light people up with tools or environment, and capitalize.

[sick temple]

Yes, nice, the game allows that

[astral moss]

But i rarelly use it, since hammer is what it is...

[sick temple]

You can also light the puddles with fire ammo, that doesnt mean it is something useful or common to see

In fact most of the times the noise is just anoying and doesnt block any path

[astral moss]

imagine you can like light a molotov range thing on the floor with a fire ammo or a flare.

Sound interesting to me.

[sick temple]

(oil puddle)

Preplacing oil puddles basically

[astral moss]

Yeah you can fire it.
If i understand what you mean. @desert acorn

[heavy finch]

Do yourself a favor guys. get out of 6. i went from not enjoying this game to fking around with sabers and running full on memes

[astral moss]

I can't man.

[sick temple]

Its impossible to get out of 6

[astral moss]

I am stuck.

[desert acorn]

Or hit someone with oil so they light hotter. This tool would in no way be op, or likely meta. It would simply make the game a little bit deeper.

[heavy finch]

no its not

[sick temple]

MMR ranges are like 2000 points, while other ranges were 500

[heavy finch]

takes like 20 games to get to 4

[sick temple]

yes, you need to die more than 40 times

without 1 assist

[heavy finch]

just run melee and have fun with it

my channel videos from Hunt is basically a guide to getting out of 6 😄

[astral moss]

Bro i am high 6* with bomb lance/katana in Us West...

[desert acorn]

And bring necro

[heavy finch]

while having fun

[heavy finch]

just keep running melee

you will automatically get down

[astral moss]

Cool, cause i only do that...

[astral moss]

That's a lie.

[heavy finch]

not in 6 you dont 😄

[sick temple]

Patches and patches

[heavy finch]

try EU 6 then

[sick temple]

If you have to EU die 50 times to have fun in a videogame, the MMR is poorly done

[astral moss]

No, people did'nt play on this server.

[heavy finch]

in my experience US East 5 is about an EU 4.

EU is just more sweaty

[desert acorn]

I think we can all agree MMR needs adjustment.

[astral moss]

EU is more campy that's for sure.

[heavy finch]

that too

[sick temple]

Game is barely playable

[desert acorn]

However... If your kd is 1, that means it's balanced

[astral moss]

I don't remember seeing people pushing in EU, that's why i didn't go there anymore.

[heavy finch]

in EU i have a hard time melee meming. But in US East i wiped the entire lobby earlier with a saber. 8 kills. no guns

[sick temple]

It would be as easy as to remove more trade windows (what we have now, from 800 to 255 i think it was, it is too much) and region lock

Lack of servers on EU also doesnt help

[dense sleet]

the trade window is .075

it was 800

[astral moss]

Melee work in EU too, but its just pure madness to play random lobby in EU.

[dense sleet]

the 225 IS the current latency lock, it might be 250 tho icr

[sick temple]

Yeah, against people that play with that ping

You have trades 2 seconds later

aka not enjoyable

[astral moss]

Trade window is the same for everyone.

If you fire after it the server will ignore it.

[sick temple]

Now we are negating ping abusing, nice

You can tap a guy, kill him, get to cover, and die 2 seconds later

Widely known

[astral moss]

being on high ping doesn't give any advantage right now.

[sick temple]

lol

[dense sleet]

if anything high ping is a negative to use, high ping feels abysmal to play

[astral moss]

That's not possible, you were shoot by another one.

[desert acorn]

Been playing battlefield. Trades are literally impossible Under normal circumstances.. I've lost a hundred kills or more to that.

[astral moss]

The trade window on .075 make the trade less happening.

Like before it was bs for sure.

[dense sleet]

man i need to have a good game like this again

[drifting mesa]

id pay crytek $100 to change my scaled warrior skin into scaled ward

[astral moss]

id pay them 200 for another melee buff.

[drifting mesa]

cough cough devs wanting cash on the side

[desert acorn]

I haven't used my katana since the buff. I play solo so it's a good option, but I've been busy and only playing with a friend of mine.

[astral moss]

It basically give 1 feet of range to the katana and bomb lance.

[desert acorn]

Sounds awesome.

[astral moss]

nothing insane.

[desert acorn]

I think Penny shot is no longer a hard counter to melee

[dense sleet]

the perringer is

shits the best tool in the game

[astral moss]

No

[desert acorn]

I always bring it for the inconvenient immolator

[astral moss]

Stop making it sound like melee is unplayable against perringer.

[dense sleet]

melee weapos will always be quirk weapons while qm, shotguns, an d perringer exist

[desert acorn]

And to use the surprise mfer meme on someone safe behind a barred door.

[dense sleet]

and thats fine

they dont hv to be busted

[desert acorn]

Silent kill be cheaper, I think. If I'm solo I can't afford it after necro

[astral moss]

I disagree with that.

[dense sleet]

but melee is not good, its just fine

im sure you do

you seem to think melee is some fantastic thing

where it isnt

its fun sure and its a good again, quirk, but its not gonna replace shotguns

its not gonna replace QM loadouts

and its certainly isnt gonna replace the perringer

[desert acorn]

Only on the mace, hatchet, and drilling.

[astral moss]

Its not the most broken playstyle but its not the weak thing you are describing.

[dense sleet]

i never said it was weak

obviously it works

but its a quirk

its weak in comparison to shotguns

because of course it, it lacks effective range.

its still a solid option

[desert acorn]

You have to play angles and misdirection inside, and melee is then strong. A versatile secondary is necessary

[urban grove]

Why is the game so laggy???

[astral moss]

Yeah you actually have to use your brain to push a compound when you don't have the range advantage.

[dense sleet]

and that makes it a great thing?

[astral moss]

But even a shotgun can't see through the smoke of a dyna.

[dense sleet]

you have to try so much harder?

[drifting mesa]

because they havent changed the scaled warrior skin back to the scaled ward yet

[dense sleet]

that makes it good?

holy fucking cope

yea im not in the mood to deal with the bait atm

[desert acorn]

When there's noise and you're close, and they don't know you're there, you can kill two guys near instantly before they even turn your way. There are so many styles and strategies that are viable

[dense sleet]

ive had this conversation with you so many times and it always goes nowhere so we'll do this

[astral moss]

There is no bait, i am more afraid of a flank that use a katana than a rival, cause a melee weapon can wipe a team in seconds.

[dense sleet]

YOU can have your favorite, and ill have mine

[desert acorn]

Watch some Quinx. He's practically a horror movie

[dreamy cave]

Last night I ran in to a boss room while they were fighting it. Killed 2 people with the katana unsheathed and the last guy with a throwing knife. Melee rocks lol

[astral moss]

Bro don't talk about this guy, he isn't a real melee player.

[desert acorn]

I need some clarification.

[drifting mesa]

nah, try meele in 6 star lobbies and then come to me

[astral moss]

He have a melee in his loadout but didn't even try to slash people beside easy kill.

[astral moss]

Do it every time.

[desert acorn]

I use melee for easy kill. Or when the other guy sucks I'll zigzag

[dreamy cave]

I also ran in to a team of 3 all trying to axe me. My shotgun won lol kinda of scary through when 3 people keep coming around corners with an axe ready to swing

[desert acorn]

People who are bad at melee still use them for memes.

[astral moss]

Try to flank or use choke bomb or dyna to close the distance.

[desert acorn]

I consider those easy kills... You have a yt channel?

[drifting mesa]

Nah, melee always looses if i come into a compound with a shotgun, especially slugs. You're not touching me before you're 1 tapped.

[astral moss]

No.

[astral moss]

I am already behind you with my big bomb lance in your back.

[drifting mesa]

not with my astros on youre not

[dense sleet]

astros

[empty eagle]

Untrue I killed two with lance today up close

They missed

I didnt

[drifting mesa]

hear you breathe

[dense sleet]

ive never worn a more uncomfortable and less premium sounding headset ever

[raven totem]

ninja dropping with katana will always be viable if people enter a compound

[dense sleet]

for the price they are dog

absoltuely the worse headphones ive ever had the displeasure of owning, and i didnt even buy em i won em in a contest

never sold a pair of headphones sofucking quick holy shit

[drifting mesa]

crouch walk ninja isnt silent

especally with sound eq

[dense sleet]

bought this AudioTechnica Headphones instead, so much better

[desert acorn]

So very true. . Or is there right next to the compound and youçre above them on the roof

[drifting mesa]

mixamp is why astros are good

[dense sleet]

crouch walk has never been silent except the solo modifier

[drifting mesa]

if you didnt mix amp yeah they will suck

use a studio preset from a sound dev

[dense sleet]

what a fucking niche

and people are emoting on you

thats insae

or just stay in safety and ohk them from the roof