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not yet its in a few minutes, and steam would be down too but its working fine (cuz I reinvited my duo just fine)
usually when it goes down these hours its completely dead (friends service too)
Indeed.
btw wtf am i supposed to do in 5* lobbies
steam maintenance already happened got the same error, roughly 20 seconds into match.
Buddy had this happen the other night back to back in 4 clashes. But it eventually went back to working.
Play.
4* too easy, 5* too hard
5* too hard ?
How ?
ye i restarted game worked for me
mostly because my teammates just stay in buildings and crouch walk everywhere
i'm mostly confused
I can't remember a fun 5* match
rgr
What is fun
stuck?
hard stuck
you get mmr locked?
When you are in 6* you are locked in it.
Is anyone else getting randomly booted from their matches like 30 seconds into the game?
thankfully i'm not skilled enough for that
"Skill" doesn't matter in hunt.

then?
Just camp in bushes with silencer and farm kill from afar.
still gotta have some aim skill
Someone will surelly stay in your aim at some point.
Playing CqC.
Mostly.
hell naw
most come from the old hunt days were matchmaking was dogwater
Most 6* are crouch-walking campy player, that's why KD doesn't mean anything.
i played hunt before the 1896 update for like 40 hours. idk much
Just say you played before 1896, don’t tell them your hours and act superior

damn
Hunt gain that much player after 2.0 ?
ngl tho i miss the choppy graphics
i miss u
and better fps. i got my shit locked to 100 fps rn
i miss old surefoot.
how was that
i miss old hunt
Extra move speed.
Yes, it was a bug but...
Iirc it gave extra crouch movement speed to solos
Was the best bug ever.
To like regular movement speeds
iirc solo trait was different (maybe lightfoot buff?)
surefoot intention was to boost crouch moving speed but there was bug where it gave walking/running speed boost too
The biggest spike was at the release of 2.0 but they also lost pretty much all of those players.
A lot of speculation was because of how AWFUL the 2.0 UI was
yeah that's why hunt is always around 20k player.
Another cheater in clash. I’m so close to uninstalling once BF6 drops 😭
Don't play clash. 
It was over 60k at the time
Yeah but the state of the game was catastrophic.
Pre 1896?
No, after 2.0.
i don't mind it much now. i just want better performance honestly
crytek can't retain for shit
perhaps
anyone having bad server isues?
i prolly should upgrade anyway
im like rubber banding so bad right now
I keep getting booted 30 seconds into every match.
yeah i had that too and it gave me an anti cheat error so i restarted the game now im just rubber banding so badly
Submitted the clip and everything, but man. That’s 3 within a week. It’s getting exhausting
I just played the most OBVIOUS Hackers ive ever seen. They were not even trying to hide the wall hacks, they were constantly shooting at you while you had 3 layers of walls inside a compound and youre crouching. Hackers are going to kill this game
honestly? when you consider other games, 3 seems pretty chill
can we have 1 event for 3 months with the only thing being region lock, i promise itll be the best event crytek, youll make so much money
Lmaoo, this was in process lol
It was a fun game.
We had them by extraction so they were unable to leave. Just patient. Using blast sense to track their shots and locations
Got kills they got revives
At one point it was us 3 vs 1
Then our 2 vs 3
At end teammate let me know they were rushing so I got ready and we were able to finally finish them

I'm a fan of pickles
sorry im late [i turned off @ dont worry [i think]] but in what scenario do you have to melee 5 whole grunts in a row during a fight
I'm a fan of the derringer
Can we showdown in hunt showdown
hello chat what’s the discourse today
I’m concerned for you
there's a rage cheater
bro blasted me with bornheim match incen from 110 meters across walls xD
skill issue
Ok it’s that same guy I saw earlier lol
Hello I am using berthier for the first time
Skill issue tbh
Wish me luck
Ok
277/1000 damage thus far for the weekly challenge
A teammate used it before. I never used it yet
Berthier is fire
Hunt dollars are 23k so in decent standing
Yes I got the fire bullets
So far one of my favorite rifles
I have 3 hunters ready to retire and I am p10 lvl 53
I like it more than lebel and krag, its imo pretty comparable for me against the mosin
So want to knock this off while I have hunt dollars lol
Last game of the night too as im should complete dark tribute with this hunt
Facts, one of my favorite rifles in the game. Probably second or third favorite. I just love my Springfield and Mako a lot
Now ya lost me
What traits to use with berthier
Mako is trash
Iron Eye and thats it
Faster rof than lebel, mako and mosin
how to get better consistency
I mean if you've never used it before I'd say bring bullet grubber just in case
Krag is great for the fire rate, I've gotten kills with it I wouldn't have with any other bolt action long ammo.
Berthier with the 3 shot feel like you were more skilled when you get a kill.
Naw just use dual ammo and you'll be fine
im goated with coffee in my system but as soon as i get tiny bit tilted or tired i die like dog
The reload is .1 seconds slower than a Mosin rechamber, jmo the 3 bullets was quite easy to get used too
Sounds good i brought vulture instead
It did take a bit tho for sure a mental math thing
hmm froge clan huh
What?
there was a day that was a thing
how far weve fallen
🙃
He recognized the most immediate threat
What fuckiing hole did you come from to bring up the froge shit
now half of us have weeb pfps </3
Spooky too good
NOT ME
Fuck you Pink
why venom
you literally smell bad
I literally smell like citrus
This new bodywash and shampoo combo are so fucking good
oh man
I smell.like a fucking orange xD
froge best og clan
Hey Kyga I noticed your discord profile mind if I dm you real quick?
Its about an art thing
sure havibi
Me Venom Kora
Big Kora's right hand Kora
Okay dumb question, is sparks literally #1 when it comes to OHK at range?
You can test stuff out in the shooting range of your ever curious about specific numbers. It shows you damage numbers to body parts on the dummies. Including wallbanging
And you can ping for distances
Pinging shows you distance?
Either in the shooting range or when you use a spyglass
what do you mean? Sparks doesn't ohk to body on a full health hunter and every gun in the game can ohk to head except shotguns [until the projectile despawns]
He sensed red mod powers
Yo im so fucking dense its unreal
Someone sc that and use it against me, because holy shit
here
Ty
Gotta clip both lines
nah i left that in on purpose :P
I cast poorly cropped image
Oops wrong one
fuck this ai slop show me an actual wizard cat eating a slice of pizza
this
except dont
because thats not healthy for the cat
dress up in a fursuit and a wizard hat and eat a slice of pizza and record it
Are the portabarrels permanent? I've made great use of them, and only been killed once by a grunt interrupting my trap placement.
probably
They should spawn a bit less frequently.
i've only really seen positive feedback about them
except that, and yeah youre definetely right
the statesman is an S tier skin to me but this will always be where my eyes go to in the lobby I hate it I hate it I HATE YOU!!!
I always bring alert trip mines. On the mission summary screen, twice I've discovered kills.
Completed the berthier damage challenge
Gun is ok. I wasn't able to get many kills with it
But was making hits
1865 carbine fmj and rival shorty dragons breath are a really fun weapon pair, i recommend
I retired 3 hunters and am now like leve 81 I think
Should prestige to p11 this weekend
Most of the rewards for prestige for 11-20 is bloodbonds except for 15 and 20
I current have 1k blood bonds so im already set for next event 
tfw you win two 1 v 3's back to back
Having split ammo makes it great in my book, good at the very least.
bert is goated
insta reload
plus highest non single shot long rifle ammo pool
that was the last two teams (:<
we killed the first already
i got the clips too
am gonna edit it real bad*
the rage hacker from the last week have made me paranoid about everyone now
I’ll give it a slightly more than good but not quite great
Its damage is more than lebel, faster firing than mosin/lebel, more ammo than any other 3 slot bolt action, has 2 ammo slots so 40m incen os disgusting, the reload is faster than a Mosin rechamber
I’m basing this solely off of vibes
Irons are clean, and MV isnt quite mosin/lebel but its more than mako/match
yeah i don't understand why it would be regarded as any worse than any other long ammo bolt action
Stats be damned
aside from being uuuuuuugly
I put it above Mosin in quite a few places actually
How dare you call bethier ugly >:[
Mako my beloved (idc if it’s statistically worse I still love it)
the berthier is very fuckin' good
Sorry, i calls it how i sees it
That's fair
Bethier needs more skins
Hows the devil card?
It’s good on some weapons
strong
It’s like when I use dauntless…I get killed trying to hipfire using the devil card when I could’ve just ADS like normal 
Sounds kinda mid though, losing two health chunks when you go down is a big deal
amogus
it is not a big deal if you plan for it
don't die + recov shots
you can delete a trio in no time flat with levered devil wildland
the power of a base maynard and people not having game sense
Damn that is a nice game (what loadout?)
maynard and scottfield
thx
Scottfield for more ammo or spitfire fmj etc
spitfire
I keep changing between spitfire/conv/trueshot for my one slot
with what primary
Maynard.
Vett, im also lost on my favorite offhand.
its really a statement in general though
honestly most of the time I'm just running trueshot or uppercut
yup
Im jsut not sure what I like for Vett becasue it kind of fills all distances well
im guessing a fast two tap but it shoots fast already
IE
ya
I take trueshot fmj with it to mule and if I really need that back up shot it's the most likely to get it done
been meaning to play around with more pax fmj
I do Vett plain ammo, havnt done fmj yet
FMJ all the way
Im trying it now.
FMJ just clears everything else
I was thinking True on later runs wouyld be sick for fanning
trueshot is great for fanning
but then again I don't want it eating my Vett ammo so maybe DUM with fanning
DUM?
DUM DUM Ammo
ohh
you wont get to shoot any more shots with that than you would with using the same ammo as your vett though
same ammo ammo pools are shared but they stack
Ya, but I don't want to oops I fanned all my ammo for both my guns
however if you're already running fmj on vett, fmj on pax might not be necessary and dumdum is a very strong ammo type especially paired with a high penetration weapon such as vett fmj
Ya, that works out then. I was running plain Vett and had plenty of ammo so couldnt decide on offhand but now im jsut going to Vett FMJ with Pax mule then go True DUM once I get some traits rolling
Nice
Thanks
We got the fire boss in the compound lol
Never seen it that close. It was near where we spawned too
why does no one run apertures? literally a straight upgrade of your gun for like 4 dollars
because they're hard to use
It proper scared the crap out of me
Im using a scope or a melee attachment most of the time
Esp since I thought there was pledge marks token on map
no harder than the base variants, you can just press x and use it the exact same
the only thing they do is give you more capabilities
I use it with 1865 carbine but rarely shoot with jt
This new MMR System is absolue trash... holy
Just having a look lol
it's better than the old ones, and the unfortunate fact is there's no good solution to the problem
Did I miss an update? new MMR?
no
they're always tweaking it
but nothing significant since they added a confidence factor
Imagine ^^
Getting 4 Star - winning 3 rounds with good kda losing 2 rounds to get demoted right after - needing 15 games with 9 wins and 12 Bounties all with good positive kda to get back to 4 star - playing several games, winning most of them and killing 4 and 5 star hunter left and right - lose 3 rounds with EQUAL Kda vs 3 and 4 Star Hunters - demoted again.... WTF?!?!
you think it's trash because your mmr isn't rising fast enough
interesting take
FWIW there are people in here regularly complaining about the exact opposite.
Yeah that would be me
With the old one u could actualy climb and fall the the same speed - now for me it feels like i have to win 5 times more with high kda, than before and on the otherhand, I fall again faster tan before with equal kda...
tahts just dumb
Why does MMR matter? Too low? You should be crushing every game. Enjoy it.
Read again and maybe u understand my problem
Dats not what I said
- yep exactly
- I do most times and many rounds are veeeeeeeeeeeery booooooring
Legit I hate playing lower MMR
All I know is im actually climbing now
I was 3 star for basically 600 hours and this last update im 5 star
You don't have a big enough sample size to say anything much about the mmr system, and they have never explicitly explained how the current version works anyway
my bracket rises and falls, often multiple times
in the same session
Both are no reasons and still NOT what I said
what they used to use was straight elo, what they use now is the glicko-2 variant of elo
What KDa do you need for 6 star?
KDA is not relevant
kda and star rank are not directly related
I have basically been the same KDA forever and I climbed up
I hope that's slang I haven't heard before
it's possible to have a very high or very low kda and a high or low rank
no, "Elo" was a system designed for setting up placements in Chess tournaments. Glicko-2 was a modification to it that added a confidence system that slowed/sped up the speed at which you gained/lost rank based on how much information the system already had about you.
Im 5 star with 1.3 I jsut started buying guns that are more than 150 each and Iv climbed up 2 stars. my KDA went from 1.2 to 1.3 so not much change
basically so a grandmaster on a bad day and a newbie on a hot streak didn't end up in the wrong matches for day 2
Yep
I saw 2 Star Hunters with KDA over 3, 4 or sometimes up to 6+ with hundrets or thousend killed teams
On the other hand I saw 6 Star Hunters barely over 1 KDA
Oh I haven't heard that before, makes sense though
i've been 1.51 for basically two years now, the system is confident that's where i'm at
your region, and the spread of brackets you play against regularly is going to have as much affect on your MMR movement as how you perform in any given session
if it drops to 1.5 i quit playing I think, that would be too demoralizing
the problem with Elo is, of course, Chess is a mostly deterministic 1v1
and Hunt is a highly random game
so it needs a LOT of matches to have an "accurate" rating, to wash out the luck with data
my bracket fluctuates regularly because i play in a low population region and I regularly play lobbies that contain both 2* and 6*
Still makes no Sense why I fall faster then climb when I still play pretty positive on KDA AND Wins/Bounties
there is no mathematical solution to asymmetric, highly random games with long iteration times
I queue solo into two randoms for 3 man with cheap kits, I feel like I have not a ton of say on teh outcome a good 40% of the time
Speed over fairness doesn't help at all either
it making no sense to you doesn't mean the system doesn't make sense in any way
you shouldn't be falling faster than you gain IIRC. unless they added confidence gating.
many would report the opposite. way too easy to climb but really hard to fall
you probably are just noticing falls and not rises
when you start palying it should be volatile and then settle once you've played a lot
if you change the time of day you play though and are in a low population region you could introduce more volatility
Cuz it´s trash like I said
most 6 stars are horrible players after the matchmaking change
can confirm, i'm six stars and I set myself on fire twice today
mmr means nothing
+1000h playtime
sure. "doesn't work how i expect it to" is the same as "Trash". good take
Nice changeing the meaning GJ dude
then you should be pretty stable. what region?
kda and kills per hour are the best determinations of skill
EU
lol
I would say that KDA more so if it wasn’t lifetime KDA only
yeah you should be pretty much set unless you've actually gotten worse or better recently
have you changed playstyle
you're probably one of those players that call good players cheaters and therefore that justifies you saying slurs in vc
go off king
I made a break for over a year and before I constantly swapped between 4 and 5 Star (Most played vs 5 and 6 Star Lobbies)
When I came back I had to play again from 3 Star
Since then I won more Rounds than lost and on Average have 4-5 Kills per Round
Made several dozen rounds and still managed to get 4 Star twice, made several wins, and fall both times after 2-3 straight lose rounds with equal kda
not even hot takes just objectively right takes and people who disagree are sub 2kd redditors
so why’d you get banned
ah your kda decayed from lack of playtime and you're rusty
So not banned in game
Nope ^^
I call cheater when I am 100% sure It´s a cheater
And i dont use vc or text
Never flame or anything
Why should I?
was i talking to you?
banned?
talking to Zeus
What? are u listening?
My KDA ROSE
there is no KDA decay?
So you got banned on the Reddit for witch hunting?
Even with the decay ( I was sure they do it) it makes no sense after getting up again
one of the true signs of intelligence is saving the effort of typing all the letters in "you're"
what? no
well remember you're playing against lower ranked players as well, who occasionally kill you, and that means the system goes, "oh, he's lower than I thought"
text? here?
think of it this way
Im speaking, you just can't tell
same rank kills same rank, very little change, because that's predicted to be 50/50
lower rank kills high rank, that's like a newbie beating a chess master, that's an upset
likewise when you kill someone of a higher rank, you gain more elo than they do if they kill you
One of the other signs of intelligence is making blanket statements about peoples intelligence
but like, the MMR system isn't good, it's just the only one available and it's arguably better than nothing
there's no mathematical solution to the problem of matchmaking in asymmetric games
hurry up please you're pretty boring.
raaaarely
When I get killed its mostly same or higher MMR
And I kill more higher than lower MMR
And like I said, after several win Rounds with only same or higher MMR Lobbies, I had 3 "losing" rounds with "equal" MMR where only 1 lower MMR killed me, then rest where higher
After all the wins I did after the uprank - those games should not be enough to delete all the wins before
so anticlimactic
hmm you're probably oscilating around one of the bracket thresholds
just put more time in it'll stabilize
? U mean what exactly?
remember MMR is an actual number and your "fall" might be like, ten points, and that ten points is 2999 to 3009, with below 3000 being 5 stars and above being six
so you feel like you fell a lot further than you did
I fogret the actual brackets for each "star"
but it's just a number
like age, baby
Im mmr 3
Hi bb
Hi
Yeah thats what I understand
But thats not my Problem
My Problem is lets say since my uprank I made 10 more wins than loses - nearly all with pretty good kda and most vs higher MMR. Then I "lose" 3 Games
And get demoted
So those 3 games had more impact than +10 wins ratio I did before
Dats where I call BS!
Dats Like I would get like 5 ponts per good win and lose 25 on an "equal" lose...
fuck I suddenly suck at aiming
I don't understand malding about brackets. they just need to make them invisible already
Nah the opposite - show every hunter their EXACT MMR and their gain and lose
if only they didn’t nuke third party stats websites that did exactly that
oh yeah, i can see that.. really improving things..
Just saying would be better and made more sense than hiding it even more... geez
yeah I don't agree if that's not obvious
what's the best way to get bloodbonds [aside from paying money]
doing your dark tributes daily and completing your weekly challenges
It´s obvious and for me dats stupid in a "competetiv game"
the competitive part is being in the game and shooting people
i couldn't care less what bracket i'm in, nor could i care less what bracket my opponents are in
Nope
Not when u r a very good player lets say a skilled veteran and u get into Lobbies with casuals or newbies
Dats not competetiv nor challenging
Dats simply boring
Then u r a casual and not a competetive player
all the time
not caring about brackets is casual. ok.
I vs 3* who play better than some 6*
pretty much
When u r competetetiv u only want to play as high to ur skilllevel as possible to compete vs players as close to as there is
When u play vs lower ranks - u have none of that
No challenge, no competetion
???
did you miss the part where i said i generally play both extremes of skill level in nearly every lobby?
and.. no change to the mmr system will change that
is that confusing for some reason
And how do u find out its "extreme level of skill" or just for u?
They've likely changed for all we know, though not that important
2* and 6* in same lobby. like i said
Dont understand what u want to say with this sentence
Besides of smurfs - yeah a good working Elosystem prevents most of this ^^
there is no elo system that works with a small playerbase
unless you want to wait 45 minutes for lobbies
If they're on the same team it's complicated
I need a team mate. A 5-6 team mate to play this god dam game
U mean a Group with a 2 Star like - 1x4star 1x3star and 1x2star?
And then a solo 6Star?
Yeah dat happens cuz of TeamMMR
with a name like that, they will no doubt be jumping at the chance?
no actual teams of 2 and 3 vs teams of 5/6
I never mentioned which team right. Think outside the box
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Absolutely wrong
based bot
Koli is going to solve low player number regions
Well dats just bad matchmaking
This is a Problem this have ever had
But those are not good rounds - this shouldnt happen
it is normal in oce
And it’s normal during low population hours on even more populated servers
and normal during clash
why? because we have like 30 players.
even US servers are a grab bag of MMRs once you get late enough into the night. the other option is to have empty lobbies
the choice is - no lobbies or, unbalanced lobbies
so I’m intrigued to hear your solution Koli
Then I understand why u dont care
With such a low playbase on a region, Elo just doesnt make any sense
But then I wonder, why u joint in this discussion? If u doint care why talking about it?
For what it is worth (nothing, it is worth nothing at all) I prefer to play against players of equal skill. I feel like that is true for most people
On EU I had late pretty fun rounds with only 3-4 People in a Match
Kinda funny when a hand full of higher MMR solo players are chasing and ambushing eachother straight around the map 😄
U can´t relaxe for 1 second when u r near the Bounty compound
I think most players don’t want a lobby that only consists of 3-4 solos
I want to fight people, personally
I am easily distracted is probably my best explanation for adding my 2c. the secondary would just be moaning about MMR is a thing that happens a lot here, and people make it seem like its both 1) super important and 2) easy to fix
and I don't believe either is true
Yeah same here
But there is my Problem! I dont get there, cuz of this shit system!
I am no god who wins 100% of my matches
But i win most of them and many matches are pretty boring to me cuz of lower skilled players - there is no thrill... booooring
Does anyone here know how to fix the input delay problem on pc?
I've tried so many things
there is no joy in speedbumping teams. but sometimes good teams play badly, and low bracket teams play well. I would not feel bad if i couldn't see bracket at all. I would just think "this team played well" or "this team played badly"
- For competetiv - a good working elosystem is one of the most impoortant things
- For Regions with a normal player base - there are several elosystem which would work just fine
"Sometimes" is just not enough
Its not good when I feel like I have a real game every 8-10 matches...
what is the input delay problem
Well, i hope you get your good games eventually. based on my personal experience, if you play well reguarly you will climb brackets. just maybe not at whatever rate you might expect.
Listen, I have a friend who is a 3 star, I play with him constantly, for the past year and a half of us playing, he has not moved from 3 star, I have watched him dome teams, down 6 man lobbies, absolutely decimate compounds and he doesn't move, I've been 6* the entire time I play with him, so I dunno what's going on
if i try to use my mouse and keyboard to play every input is delayed by like 5 seconds but when i use a controller it works fine
5 seconds is kinda wild
mmr is all about who your killed and killers mmr is so it's always gonna be funky since mmr can be random
U still dont get it do u?
I DO CLIMB!
BUT.. I fall faster with still more wins than loses
And sry this is a problem I never heard of with the older system
Yeah many 6 Star players say they dont fall even after 5-6 loses straight
my team has been 2* 3-5* and 4-6* for.. a long time. The 2* is currently 3* but that took a long time. But they always die the most and kill the least. I am all over the place, and third is the most consistant. even though our brackets move regularly they are more or less inline with what I would expect based on our average performance
He moves up to 4* for like a game, but even if we win the next one he goes back down to 3*
It's been the joke of our little group for a while that he's the scapegoat
perhaps as part of the volatility changes, temporary MMR gain decay happens so that you are not immediately bumped due to one good match. we don't get to know obviously
with my team I had before (4* 4* and 4/5*me)
My Deaths were on second, but I dies as many kills as both of my mates together most of the time
Now since I am playing again - I nearly only play solo and win more rounds than before and with even better kda than before
I also had solo 2 Server/game wipes in the last 2 weeks
Maybe but still makes no sense cuz I did several dozen of games and won more than lose
the winning the game part doesn't matter right. it's just the bracket of the people you killed vs yours
and their bracket vs yours when they kill you
Mostly vs same or higher MMR
like i said 3 times already
Very rarely dat a lower player killed me
And even then I most times have several kills on other players in dat round
they don't need to be lower mmr to kill you and make you lose rank
no you should just lose more in those cases
but we have never been told anything about the actual mechanisms in place to "reduce volatility"
Sure
But when at the same time I kill more players and higher playes than me
Why still falling?
dyign and being revived still counts
i never pay enough attention to post match screen because i don't care much
Yep but I win more
Dats thy problem
I Win more than I lose and on avaerage I have 4-5 Kills per round
but maybe i still drop bracket sometimes even after a decent round
the only way to lose mmr is to die so in some way, and the only way to gain MMR is to kill players
Yep - solo with necro
Even when I die twice
When I make 5 kills
Why do the 2 deaths matter more?
You've answered your own question. You're simply not doing as well as you think
if it was 2 deaths by a lower mmr there is a bigger elo hit
if you kill lower mmr players, you don't get much elo gain
But I do 😄
Its not a "feeling"
I counted over the last days cuz I see 2 numbers in my statistic going close ^^
Well you're wrong, if you are frequently killing higher mmr players than yourself, sometimes dying to them and never dying to lower mmr players than yourself then your mmr would go up, if it isn't going up then you're counting wrong
We already solved dat puzzle..
For u again
I rarely die to a lower player
When I do its mostly to same or higher MMR player
And I kill more same or higher MMR players tahn lower
i mean i doubt the system is broken for only you and works for all of us
we can't really definitively state anyone is wrong when the details of the MMR system have never been made public
and i explained how the system works, it's a pretty simple system where only kills and deaths count
why does disabling vsync remove the ability to enable nvidia reflex? thats so dumb
But they have
"you can lower latency but you have to raise it significantly in return"
1865 fmj is an amazing wallbang weapon for anyone missing wallbangs
they have stated what the elo system is based on. they have also said they introduced mechanics to "reduce volatility" they never explicitly stated what those were, nor have they ever said if they ever made their own customisations to that system
Hi
i mean we know the basic - kill higher bracket, more gain, lose to lower bracket, more loss part. and that kills and deaths are the only things that matter. as far as i'm aware, that's all we know.
- I never said I never die to lower
- Nope u r wrong - dats my problem
I climb and win many rounds (since I was 4* again I nearly just had 4 and 5 MMR in my lobbies) killed many of them with pretty good kda
Then I had 3 losing round and dies to 1y MMR 3 and 2xMMR 4
Normaly I still should be far high enough to ez still being 4 but no - derank after those game
Ahhh and I forgot
In those 3 Games I made 4, 5 and 6 Kills... just btw
What? xD Dude i am back only for the last about 2 weeks and I already saw several people complaining about the Elosystem xD
What are u talking about only me? xD
I reckon the "reduced volatility" mechanic is some kind of weighting to MMR gain and loss that kicks in due to circumstances we are not privvy to
will crytek be coming to congress with twitch, discord, reddit, and steam tomorrow
because part of their intent was to try to stop people deliberately tanking their MMR to smurf
no, crytek is a small fish and they are headquartered in the EU?
Yeah and it "seems" like deaths counts muuuch more than kills - otherwise this math would work
Dats why I say its trash
They never showed it to the players - not even years ago with the old system
it was not perfect but it worked better than this here
Theres also the numerical value to people's mmr, maybe these people that you were killing that were a higher star than you were just barely into the higher star, and the people killing you were barely whatever star they were on the lower end
i think "better" or "worse" is not something you can easily define just by one persons experience with it, because their overall goal may have been achieved despite the apparent downside for players like you
all I can say is
Even if this is correct
I still killed much more than getting killed
So even with the difference the impact should NEVER be this big
people whinged about the MMR bracket system before changes
and they whinge about the MMR bracket system after changes
almost like there is no perfect system and any change to it will result in outliers of some kind and a handful of people it really annoys for whatever reason
hello friend
people complain about every update to any part of the game, nothin new
true fax
Best solution
Make it visible
Show them their exact MMR and what they gain and what they lose
So they see it with their own eyes what exactly is happening
This would break down most of thise discussions
i mean in the old mmr system the thing that got people frothing was people deliberately tanking bracket to smurf in easy lobbies
You still can just not as easy
the best thing ever would of been if they updated people's KDs to reflect the tanking, ultimate penance
To tank mmr you need to die and not win no? Which effectively tanks kd
True and I beling to those which said the game was better like it was before the circus event and the changed prior to it last year
What do u mean exactly?
Idk how to make it clearer
They still do...
I said it earlier
I saw several 2 and 3 star players with a kda of 3, 4 or even +6 in the last 2 days
With tank u mean to derank to smurf?
Ok then but why update their kd`s?
people used to use soul survivor to derank because it didnt affect their kd but it did affect their mmr iirc
I thought soul survivors had their own MMR?
Or does hunters form Soul survivors not count when u lose in a real match after?
they do count more
soul survivor used to affect your regular MMR, although it had no MMR matchmaking. It did not affect your regular KD. So you could effectively use it to derank your MMR without touching your KD
That is what I thought but some people fully commit to saying there is
so i have no clue lol
i see new players moaning about facing the same 6* in SS pretty regularly
Hey so @short halo im feeling a bit vindictive, can I send screenshot of a message I received of a guy through this server
Wow ok dats stupid..
I mean to make a report lol
Homie got a issue with me and I have no idea who he is
tbh i'd enjoy the 4-5 star as long as possible lol
6 star gets fucking old bro
extremely limited weapon selections
Or can can I use modmail for such a thing
boohoo
me thinks you can DM it to modmail
Whats got you riled up Yokai lol
I can send you the sc if you want, its really funny actually
I must've really pissed someone off bc i have no idea who the fuck he is but he messaged me 4 hours ago telling me to off myself
yeah, that was the change
i just think it's funny that you're sensitive enough to report someone talking trash when the block button exists
let me guess he told you to kill 7 billion people
Here ill send you the screenshot, ill get banned if I send it here
I dont even know who he is but he is mad tripping
a rando?
is it not just the exciteable fellow earlier who was deliberately trying to get banned.. and did?
or someone who’s regular in here
I dont know but I've never seen him before
starts with the last letter of the alphabet
But knows me well enough to know what I had my discord shit set at pfp and description
Is a Greek god?
Thats the one
yeah already banned i think?
Oh thats unfortunate
Send it through ModMail plz
He messaged me but has his shit set to friends only so I cannot mess with him
not really surprised actually he was arguing in here earlier, i think hes just some redditor 1 kd shitter who thinks everyone is a cheater
Oh yea not surprising
That shit is hilarious though, he really thought he had hurtful words sent to me xD
The guys already been banned
Either way, lets move along from it please
i mean sure already more words and effort spent than deserves
hunt throwdown
my god most of what I do for work is horrifically boring
is that why I am here so often? we will never know.
1865 carbine fmj propaganda [125+ through wood wall, 100+ through thin metal
]
kinda surprised the bullet doesn't just fall on the ground directly behind the metal sheet at that mv tbh
also kills with lower torso + leg hit through thin metal but when are you consistently hitting that low
97 boosts aint enough? 😭
not 100
he was the 98th, so two more
$5/month for purple name in this one server lets goooo
🤝
i think its less about the purple name and more about supporting the server
this guy knows the true
Did Steam die again?
Does anyone know if cash registers got removed from the spider dens?
They don't spawn in certain nest locations.
supporting it how 😭
well it's called "boosting the server" so it must do so somehow, maybe recommends it to people more or something
or just that you're giving them money
It unlocks some perks, but those are maxed out at... 14 boosts? and we're at 98
Yeah, pretty much there's nothing else after level 3
Yeh
two is enough to bring a server to the first tier of rewards which is like, more emotes/soundboard slots, audio quality, and something else like streaming quality i dont remember
it just unlocks being able to stream your screen at higher res / fps and higher bit rate for voice and stuff init
oh emotes and stuff too i suppose
Jesus compact can't even pen a little rail support stick. Wish the officer carbine had fmj.
the main reason to run marathon instead i guess
would i run officer carbine with fmj if it had it? .. yeah probably
I'd put FMJ on my backup lemat if the carbine had an ammo pool beyond 5 shots.
chat does steady aim effect the nitro
If its metal? Nope. Same with medium ammo
It was one of those wooden railing post, the ones that are like 2 inches wide. The thin ones. Then a min later a thin wall I thought for sure I could fan through.
That it should be able too pen.
But hitboxes are weird in Hunt
non-fmj ammo is like the little marshmallows you get in lucky charms cereal now
when it hits anything solid it makes a cute little squeaking noise and falls onto the ground all crumpled
What I can deduct is that a lot of objects is made up of multiple hit boxes, so sometimes bullets will stop bc they just travel thru too many of those boxes too rapidly.
Also think maybe if a bullet travels too long inside a hitbox it it nullified.
Which is why I guess the pre-"""fixed""" pen system worked better, bc ignoring the first wall made it less likely for bullets to do either of the above mentioned.
yeah probs something like that
Anyone here know how to fix the input delay issue on pc?
Depends, because a lot of people confuse in-game mechanics for input delays
When I try to move/look around all the inputs are delayed by 5-10 seconds
But when I use a controller it’s perfectly fine
it’s only in hunt?
Yup
I uninstalled nvidia app, reset my mouse and keyboard shit in device manager, changed hunt.exe to run as administrator
Uninstalled and reinstalled
Uninstalled Logitech g hub
Do you have controller plugged in while also MnK?
I’ve tried it plugged in and unplugged
Lets start with the basic troubleshooting, is V-sync/G-sync off?
This is what my input delay looks like when trying to flick and fire fast
but it’s not anywhere near 5-10 seconds
I tried with ir turned on and turned off
MF's REFUSED to push
When I try to use my mouse and keyboard it’s literally unplayable
What frames you getting in the game?
Lemme load my pc back up real quick
My guess it has to be something with your MnK settings in windows. Like pointer precision, mouse speed etc
is just the mouse delayed or are key inputs delayed as well?
Key inputs are too
Bluetooth MnK can be delayed sometimes
Both of em are wired
🤔
Once this shit loads up I’m gonna look at the mouse precision thing
both of them is strange
Both are Logitech
is there some kind of issue with whatever USB ports they’re plugged into? Have you tried different ones?
What is was your average frame-rate in Hunt?
1 sec sorry
This is exactly what it looks like
There was a excel sheet which gave u a sensitivity value which u then had to copy into your game files. Does sm1 remember what that thing was for?
that guy solved by running as admin
Tried it
I’ve pretty much tried every solution I’ve found relating to the problem
What refresh rate does your monitor has and what frames do you get in game?
180hz and normally 70-100 frames
sometimes really old/weak CPUs have input delay issues
But I’d doubt this would Be the case
are you running full screen or windowed?
borderless
someone in that thread said that running as admin fix only worked for them if they ran it in fullscreen, you can also try that
Yh i think that was it
i have a fullscreen windowed option but not just fullscreen
does hunt not have actual full screen lol what
i think this might be a customer support question
very niche bug of sorts
When you load up the game, press alt+enter and see if that fixes it
didnt work i turned off the mouse precision thing too
DX12 does not have that type of fullscreen anymore
Complain to Microsoft, not Crytek
i got a concertina bomb kill
my first one
he died in the eplosion/expansion
enemy was behind us peeking from a door and i just threw the conc bomb at the last location i saw him and he just dies
On base compact distance until pen matters a lot
try to keep GPU at 70%usage
Easier to complain to crytek
the most important thing is, be complaining to someone
So real
Does The Tower damage hunters? I'm guessing not, right?
narp
Gotcha thanks
can dev pls fix hud option show player names not turn off by itself
Does the world card reveal wild targets?
Those aren't bosses
🦦
servers going down?
yeah I saw it said in 137 mins its going down for maintenance or something
exactly, I was like huh
weird
Saw that too
I wonder what its about
Probably just stability fixes or something
Explosive bolt my love, where ye be?
Good riddance
It's gone nowhere, you can still use it
maybe bug fix patch if we're lucky? could just relate to the wonky server issues in some regions recently i spose
Server maintenance?
hopefully they have fixed the death cheat issue
and the LOD issues as well
(zombies/hives appearing darker/black at longer distances)
Homestead 78 seems to be bugged
How so
First of all it's supposed to be long barrel and it's slug range isn't 15m
Slugs on it don’t work yes
Please rate my "The Hanged Man" build
Was that randomized?
no
Aye
what's the best suppressed rifle outside of the long ammo ones in your guys' opinion?
or the one that you do best with
1865 carbine
Vetterli
Winny
nvm he left. he did that for like 5 minutes tho
!slash
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ty for these
Next time please DM ModMail instead of pinging all mods
kk ty
vetterli imo, i love 1865 carbine but it just doesn't mix with silencers
Don't mind me just getting shot from behind
much prefer aperture for 1865 because it can help you line up those shots at longer ranges that are otherwise very difficult with its sights and velo
It happen.
1865 silencer is probably too slow
The carbine 1800 have silencer version ?
yes, 289 velocity
thanks guys
weird that no one mentioned the best silencer rifles though xD
lol i have never seen it.
Crazy gameplay
219 with fmj
imho the two best silencer guns are the krag silencer and the cent shorty silencer; they have at least decent bullet velocity, especially with hv
Maynard maybe.
hm yeah maynard very solid too
being able to snipe with a silencer is really strong since you need to rotate less
(Its annoying af yeah.)
You'll regret not getting it sooner
(back in 2018 when everyone were new and no hard metas were in place and people didn't tryhard as much)
#GunLife #Firearms #Shooting
#GunsDaily #Pistol #Revolver #Handgun
#GunCulture #YngArmsRevolver #ShootingRange
revolver shotgun when

Lemat.
It's all about your perspective. Just have fun and learn the game. ☕
Yes.
anything else i should be worried about
Mostly pvp.
An update to this, I suppose. After 5 grueling days (tl;dr, the CPU I got was damaged, I had to return it and get a new one, turned out my hard drives are also damaged and causing issues, had to replace them, turns out there were some Windows files on one of the damaged hard drives, had to reinstall windows) I'm back to Hunt, and this time the black screen took like 15 s of waiting. When I get a new SSD drive, it'll be even better. Thanks for info, advice and all that folks.
So in the end.... upgrading to a new platform as I suggested would have been the better move 
As you kinda need to re-install windows when moving to a new platform anyways
The amount of workhours would have been less, and time is also money
I still should upgrade to Windows 11, but I can't be bothered for now. I'm about to check if the map loads in quickly or not, let's see...
5 days of troubleshooting vs 1 day of just building a new rig alltogether @lofty sinew I know what I'd pick
idk how much time or money this guy has. a full new machine is not cheap
for most long term players it's all about the PvP with other hunters.
while the objective is to kill the boss, banish it, get it's bounty token and extract to get paid. there are no mechanics which hard enforce this, so you could opt to do whatever.
Tho PvP is almost impossible to avoid unless you don't play for the objective and play very stealthily.
IT'S LOOKING GOOD LADS
Getting a new AM5 board + CPU + DDR5 memory would have roughly been twice the price of a 5700X3D (which was roughly 200usd for most of it's lifetime)
(when the match is over I'll show you how it looked previously)

I mean I don't want to spend 5 days troubleshooting a machine
but usually if you go down that route you don't know in advance how long it's going to take to figure out do you.
maybe it was a valuable learning experience. even if the thing learned was.. don't bother next time ¯_(ツ)_/¯
This is how it looked previously when I booted into a match
struggle street load in
nice, you can see enemies hiding in bushes easily
What do you mean a new platform? You'd wnat me to buy a new, pre-built PC? Most of the components work just fine, it was down to the processor, and as it turned out, my disks also just degraded with age. I've had them for 8 years or so at this point.
Is there a reason why keeping the bow drawn doesn't at least nibble on stamina? Feels very gamey.
I'm about to go this route next spring
because you have an amazing trait called 100 hands i guess
I have no idea what Luu was suggesting. just a new motherboard ram and cpu from the sounds. $400 sounds crazy cheap for any decent version of all 3 components to me, but i don't spend a lot of time looking at best value PC parts
in my funny money a CPU worth buying costs at least $300
I mean bow doesn't need to be nerfed more on the only thing it does really well, even then it gives obvious sound ques
Bow needs to be scarce
and can be baited
Any weapon I dont like being killed by should be scarce
welcome to hunt showdown sir, you'll fit right in
It sucks
I can't think of the right words to say it properly
i think people get emotionally hurt when they see a projectile instead of a bullet on a death screen
there is a skill curce to not dieing to it
It's infuriating to die to but it isn't even overpowered
Guys in experiencing the random "Region selected not available" bug, how can I fix?
!crycloud
Possible solutions for the "Crycloud Error":
Some affected regions have some local issues connecting to the servers recently.
As the servers themselves appear not to be the origin of this issue it is most likely some middle point in the connection between player and game server causing problems.
Some people reported that using a VPN and connecting through a different neighboring country helped in some cases, or switching their server region in the config file to a different one before starting.
To open the config and change to a different server you have to do the following:
- Go to your Hunt installation folder (SteamsteamappscommonHunt Showdownuserprofilesdefault)
- Find the file called "attributes.xml" and open the file. (you might need a program like notepad++) to open it properly)
- search for these lines with the search function (ctrl+f)
<Attr name="Region" value="eu"/>
and
<Attr name="Primary Region Switcher" value="eu"/>
-# (as this issue is mostly affecting players from europe the EU server is used in this example.) - replace "eu" with "us_east" or "russia" or any other server you have a tolerable ping to.
- save and close. now you should be able to connect to the game again.
when i die to bow, i usually feel dumb, because it's nearly always because i forget to at least try to bait a shot first
I think bow is fine as it is.
I'm on console though 🙁
try unplugging your console for a minute then plugging it back in
sounds like Mr Glide has done support before
not profensionally
It’s the same with shotguns. I think people forget that shotguns kinda suck past CQC. Yet your mosin can kill at any range
thats why they used to bitch the uppercut to death
The thing I don't like is the problem 😡 and the thing I use is not 😤
pretty much, or the lighter version
You do realise most of these 5 days were just waiting, yes? For a new CPU, for the serviceman to look into it, for Windows to install and so on? Sure, it took me ~6 hours I assume of troubleshooting, but gaming isn't the only thing that can keep me busy.
gun archtype I use is skill expression, the ones I don't are cheese/skilless
I was vaguely wondering how a troubleshooting session could take 5 consecutive grueling days I will admit
depends on experience I would assume
I've been really craving sauteed carrots lately
satisfying that craving sounds pretty acheivable? 😛
yup
I had those the other day
Steamed baby carrots my beloved
love putting them into stir fry
Weren’t you complaining about explosive crossbow being gone Mr no cheese?
i think i got a good gif.
it was a comment on the community bitching, in sarcastic fashion
riflemen tend to bitch the most imo
The shotgun mains bitch about rifle users and the rifle mains bitch about shotgun users
That’s what makes the world go round
lately a shotgun user complains about shotguns because apparently it's impossible to miss with them
The circle of life
Riflemen when shotgun users use shotgun tactics and shotgunners when riflemen use riflemen tactics
hang around long enough you'll see someone argue every side of every possible position
pffft
Yeah i have seen that.
Me, in the corner, looking at the conversation knowing full well i whiffed 4 Romero shots in a row yesterday.
you're on the winning side because you can admit you missed
😡 mfw I push a compound with a rifle when I clearly hear shotgun blasts, and get mad when I die to the shotgun in its intended range
haha well. yeah. I'm preeeetty average at cqc. i don't find it all that hard to miss shotgun shots, especially if said player is even vaguely decent at baiting shots. anyway.
so many people with vidoe evidence will come in here "what kind of bullshit game is this" and murder a wall
Wrong, cause i never miss, the game as just bugged or the enemy is ping abusing.

Pov: the devs of dead by daylight.
eh, that would only decrease the drain
“I point blanked him and he didn’t die. Shotguns are useless.”
Shows screenshot and he hit 2 pellets
besides I only take that to legolas people in the eye
Could it be my relative lack of experience in this game? no, no.. it is the game engine that is wrong.
I personally feel like I should be the only one who plays the game that is able to do damage everyone else should just run around for me and let me shoot them
Same.
those are always good. and pretty regular. i wanna see one of those guys argue "You can't miss with shotguns" guy
The level of cope of this guy was unreal.
isn't it normal that streamers complain about shotgun enjoyers sitting motionless in buildings?
the better streamers just outplay people regardless of their loadout
I used my derringer penny shot at the Walmart checkout and not a single penny made it into the coin slot. Dog shit weapon
Who ?
granted they still die because.. that's a thing that happens in the game. but watch any of the better ones and they will absolutely walk people regardless of loadout on the regular
I don't know, emaiza, rexnor maybe
lol Rexnor.
you know, the ones that don't rat
The one that derank just to do video.
When I am in a worst youtube intros competition and my opponent is Rexnor
lol what was it about?
I mean, the whole, holding a corner with a shotgun thing is kind of a known trope I guess. I don't think anyone is impressed by a streamer if they just moan about it and can't outplay it at all
lets try to remember these are community members and real people
i think i wouldn't take his opinion into account.
I don't recall seeing anyone i watch lean into that sort of talk tbh
I still think they are funny 😉
Most are still complaining when they lose.
They just don't show it into the video.
I’ve seen Rachta bitch and moan about other people’s loadout when he’s running the same shit
I like the streamer community for hunt tbh. they aren't all my cup of tea. but at least most of the ones i see are positive, add to the community, and seem like decent sorts
While annoying, if you’re playing against corner camping shotgun players, you don’t have to engage them and just leave
True but he’s not really super serious about it
Or throw something at them
my dumb ass ego peaks thinking I'm going to win
And then they message you asking why you didn’t push like my brother in christ you are holding a siege angle with a auto 5 I am alright chief
I saw Rachta kill another streamer once. This was with Auto-5. No more Ractha for me lol
it is normal to make excuses in the moment i think the most important thing is that you dont stand by the nonsense excuses you make after the moment is over.
you don't like playing cnk?
part of why i watch rachta is because i don't see him moan about that sort of thing myself
but have also watched him get doinked by hornet with mosin while trying to get a good wildland clip
which i thought was funny
Psycho ghost rarely complains
I like Hornet. More laidback, funny commentary
play wha...?
the auto 5, crown and king
Neenoh feels like the most chill of the lot
i don't watch alot of streamer, but the one that are exclusively ego focused even less.
Ngl I get hit markers with CnK. Krill issue
As much as I love psycho he does tend to complain a bit from my memory.
That guy is king complainer I actually had to stop watching him cause every video I had seen has like 3 minutes of him complaining about something
Neenoh is actually an iceberg. he's the chillest dude in the bayou by far.
Oh. No, I think it and everyone who's ever used it and its smaller sibling should be banished from the game and from this planet, preferably this galaxy.
Neen is good
Not what I’ve seen from watching him but then again I don’t watch streamers much at all
just run slugs and laugh at how op cyclone is.
You with your CnK versus my Chad silenced nagant headshot 
psycho sometimes feels like he wants to move to other games while his community wants to see him playing Hunt for the most part
oh lol you would hate my guts
I got doinked from 30m with auto 4 slugs today that hurt
I suppose it's a typical issue for streamers who got popular with some game
problem of 99% of big streamers
I don't see rachta use auto 5 type weapons much unless it's in a lobby where he's had to switch weapons. idk. he plays all kinds of things. They all do from what i have seen
probably, I hate almost everything, sry 👺
I think he is just waiting for Hunger to start his play test.
Well he was in the latest playtest
I've got 40 lvl 50 full avto hunters I like to run. idk I like everything naughty.
Hunger is going to follow the same fate as forever winter. Mark my words
Same fate as dark and darker
That Hunger gameplay was actually so depressing hearing people gas it up and then seeing the gameplay was actually the saddest thing ever
wtf is forever winter
And what was the "fate" ?
Ah I guess that’s a better comparison
hunger looks cool, dark and darker sucked imo
didnt help that they had legal issues at the start
hello
Why ?
It look pretty good.
cool vibes dystopian cyberpunk thing where the devs seemingly had a cool idea but not much idea how to turn it into an actually good game
all the people that were in the hunger playtest had to sign an nda I think in an attempt to avoid that
why?
Massive hype then when it finally releases……crickets after a few months
it's still in ea right?
dont think its the same thing D&D was the dev previous employer took legal action against them
Mosin dolch p is peak hunt showdown expression
I think so but everything i have heard about it of late is people saying "oh well it had promise" I havent really bothered to investigate why
I think hunger could be fun but needs some massive balance changes. A lot of the weapons and abilities seem completely broken for a game that’s supposed to be single shot weapon and melee focused
I've literally seen a mosin sweat calling mosin peak skill expression
all i know is i have learned to not pre-order anymore
I'm getting hunger day one


