hunt-general

[remote moss]

you only crouchpeek when theyre close, smh

[iron pilot]

he got to observe an arrow flying into his eyehole

crouchpeaking with avto instead of just runnin ppl down

xd

[hybrid nest]

Just killed my very first duo and i was excited only for google to tell me tha there are bots in my games until i get my account to level 11 looks like my excitement will have to wait

[chrome lintel]

You are also 1 star until level 11

Still that's an accomplishment

Gotta start somewhere

[hazy crest]

Well it’s a moot point now that you only fight bots

[chrome lintel]

Unless you are in a team yeah

[astral moss]

Nah bro dont give them this kind of idea.

[remote moss]

look, there are a lot of fun strats out there that no one uses

now that frag bow is a known thing, gotta enjoy the classics

every time they try to peek, they get hit with concertina so bad movement and bleed

in other words, theyre also one shot to rifle with zero counterplay

the only difference is that you cant spam every fucking wall for free dmg at nearly any angle for free

just corners. which are most of hunt anyway, lmao

[astral moss]

I wont say poison and concertina arrow are "fun" to play against.

[remote moss]

theyre fun to use

and thats all that matters in the end

so written in the book of hunt, co-authored by rats

[astral moss]

For me poison crossbow should be delete from the game.

[remote moss]

uhh yes?

idk if poisons worth the small range buff, and steel bolt is trash

[astral moss]

idk either but its just annoying for area denial.

Like if its on a door you can't cross it for a min. (I don't know the timer.)

[remote moss]

you meant the hand crossbow

yeah its frustrating to play against

i like it though, just want it for gassing crows, ducks, horses, cages, armored, and even hives

dont really need the toxic cant move through here without being one shot to everything clouds

and the floor wallbangs with it

that are totally very interesting

[astral moss]

Yeah was talking about that.

[karmic citrus]

Shotguns piss me off more than anything in this game, when I use them I'm shooting styrofoamshot, but when the level 12 free hunter has on its firing .50

[astral moss]

Like its only purpose is to be annoying.

idk why its still in the game.

[tribal wagon]

Can we get FMJ to avtomat?

[karmic citrus]

Do people even use that thing?

[tribal wagon]

dO pEoPle EvEN uSe tHaT thINg

[chrome lintel]

Fire on hand xbow works for that too

[astral moss]

Yeah fire is fine.

[chrome lintel]

Unfortunately probably a skill issue😅 you have to hit most of the pellets for a 1 shot and be at the right ranges

[karmic citrus]

Are you 12?

[astral moss]

I don't think so, too much nerf.

[karmic citrus]

That's probably it, I'm definitely not the greatest but it still feels like the game has something out for me with all the hutmarkers lol

[karmic citrus]

I've never seen one, hell I rarely see the normal mosin

I've ran it once

And died because I suck

[tribal wagon]

no, but thats just some stupid stuff to say when peopel are obviously using avtomat

[chrome lintel]

It's rare to see because it's expensive but it's still definitely still seeing play and is good

[astral moss]

But fmj on a close range weapon sound weird tho.

[chrome lintel]

Yeah

It's already hard enough to control

[karmic citrus]

Avtomat is weird. It's like the devs just really wanted an AK in the game, so took the mosin and just slapped a bunch of bullshit on it

[hazy crest]

I seen people complaining that they’re running into it a lot

Devil card reduces the recoil

[chrome lintel]

True

[karmic citrus]

Xbox players just might not be very cool and silly so that's why I never see the thing

[astral moss]

Then nerf it the hardest they can cause the weapon was too broken.

Now its just bad.

[chrome lintel]

Console is a whole nother animal, that meta is weird

[hazy crest]

it’s not really bad

[chrome lintel]

Have they actually directly nerfed it? The last big hit I saw was the ammo changes

[hazy crest]

If you know how to use it and you’re fighting within 30 meters you don’t have any right to lose the fight

[astral moss]

It is, you got like 5-6 shot for all the game.

[chrome lintel]

Ammo boxes

[karmic citrus]

I rarely see people run anything other than bolt actions, and it's almost always the berthier or vetterli (however you spell it)

[hazy crest]

dude everyone uses long ammo just yoink it from people’s guns

[astral moss]

Yeah ammo box that give you 5 lol.

[chrome lintel]

Only need one burst to kill someone lol

[astral moss]

And i didn't know that, did it make the weapon viable ?

[hazy crest]

The weapon has always been viable it’s just not completely busted anymore after the ammo rework and recoil increase when they added the sparks pistol

[astral moss]

I think i play against it last week, the dude fire at me, hit one bullet but i play bomb lance so he is dead before fireing again.

Since the recoil is insane.

I will test hit with the devil card, could be fun.

[raven totem]

brother it's long ammo

and has spitzer

[dreamy cave]

Ita a real gun lol Huot automatic rilfe

[karmic citrus]

Is it really? I looked it up when I first unlocked the thing and got nothing

Omg it is that's so cool

It wasn't made from the mosin though

[dreamy cave]

https://tenor.com/view/machine-gun-danny-mcbride-gif-21118588

[brave grail]

does someone have infinite loading rn? my whole trio is stuck on loading screen

[untold stag]

I just have to restart the game only happens now n again for me

[worldly crest]

GRAAAAH MY PS5 CAME IN! I CAN FINALLY PLAY AGAIN

after I get it set up

[chrome kernel]

I played random trios last night and my teammate got a whole trio with just the saber, and one of them had an avto

[raven totem]

yup

[fallen meteor]

guys

why has there been no dlc since june?

did something happen

[radiant wren]

Is sparks a good gun to run suppressed or does it ruin its damage/ velocity

[tall canopy]

there has been less dlcs this year overall

[radiant wren]

I guess specifically for poison ammo

[fallen meteor]

I still like it with supressed

i don't notice enough of a difference to justify not running ti

[fallen meteor]

have they said anything about it

[outer ridge]

guys what skin is that? i never seen this

[remote moss]

shes called the orange lady from that one dlc

kidding, no idea

[tall canopy]

no

[icy elbow]

she was a battle pass skin for the garden of the witch event earlier this year

[outer ridge]

oh this year i didn't play that much ty

[outer iron]

I LOVE FOMO SLOP

[fallen meteor]

it's called bruja cone or bruja maiden

i can't tell which one it is specifically they look kinda the same

it's maiden

cuz the silver stuff on her beelt

[outer ridge]

thanks guys lol i was wondering if was a drop or something and in the wiki the list is not complete

thanks

[dense sleet]

Bruja : Maiden

[fallen meteor]

yeah have to use 2 different sources to see all the old battle pass stuff

[dense sleet]

Garden of the Witch skins

Maiden is the younger one, Crone is the older one

[outer ridge]

thanks

[raven totem]

whats fomo about bujas?

they're legendary so they'll be in the store eventually

[dense sleet]

it was FOMO bc you cant get it RIGHT NOW, but she will eventualyl return

[raven totem]

I think we should still get mythic hunters

[outer iron]

We should be able to get all hunters and skins if I put up the bones for it.

[raven totem]

I think you should show up for the party

[sly stump]

Challenges reset tomorrow right ?

[rare wyvern]

facts. fomo = less cash money

[full jungle]

WOOOO FOMO ON TOP

[sly stump]

When do challenges reset guys?

[full jungle]

Neva

The event challenges stay for the entirety of the event

[dense sleet]

tomorrow

BUT you can do any weeks previous challenges, it more so when more unlock

the only thing that really resets is your Daily tribute

[pale nymph]

Apparently shooting someone twice with an uppercut with fanning while they run at you with melee doesnt kill. Melee charge give you damage immunity or something?

[full jungle]

No you just missed

Or hit his legs idk

[outer iron]

shotguns the bane of my samurai ways

[indigo hemlock]

can we get some moderation in #na

[hoary raptor]

do you guys like using fmj in your uppercut? or just regular ammo?

[jolly canyon]

I feel like if you mastered subsonic ammo then you would become a destroyer of worlds

[remote moss]

fmj is a compact and medium ammo thing for wallbangs. its rarely that extra useful on long ammo

[remote moss]

its insane how hard it is to figure out where a silencer guy is rotating and fighting at when youre up against places with a lot of clutter like forests

[jolly canyon]

Subsonic ammo only being heard from 30 meters is crazy lol

[remote moss]

silencer subsonic is toxic

yeah

got me fucked up yesterday

[jolly canyon]

Ranger silencer with subsonic is crazy too.

[remote moss]

ranger silencer and bornheim silencer subsonic is a damn good stealth loadout

its tough to run cause mv but as far as mid range cqcing goes, its so damn easy to use

[deep ginkgo]

Why is hunt showdown so sweatyyyyyyyyyyy

[remote moss]

i cant tell you

[deep ginkgo]

Getting insta 1 bullet killed after 20min hunt is not fun

[remote moss]

yes

it sucks

[deep ginkgo]

At leats they should make fights stick more like arc raiders

Campers love the insta kill

[pale nymph]

I definitely didnt miss and got 2 hit markers.

[jolly canyon]

Im in uk for work and there is a huge difference in toxic randoms when it comes to europe servers versus us east

[tame magnet]

or just play arc raiders lol

[jolly canyon]

Like dudes yelling at me cause they are downed in the open to rez them

With wire on their body

[tame magnet]

necro them in wire and say you did what they asked

[frigid ibex]

amogus

[jolly canyon]

I just ran to clear the wire and got killed. Then they yelled noob

[tame magnet]

mods ban him

[frigid ibex]

wrong alt

mb

[tame magnet]

me too

thats on me

[tame magnet]

idk i dont play with randoms lol

[jolly canyon]

Us east randoms are 90 percent friendly

And its fun just to run in with trios lol

[tame magnet]

feel that

i just run with the boys (and girl - respect to my sis alpa)

[deep ginkgo]

I would but it still not out yet

[light sky]

Hop on

[remote moss]

looks like concertina arrows are pretty useful around corners

when fighting a rat thats hiding behind a tree in forests, you can do the wiggle game and pop one of their corners so they cant use it

usually results in bleed so now you have advantage and they can only peek from one side easily

[jolly canyon]

Anyone else find the battlepass skins lacking other than the vertebrae ones?

[hoary raptor]

which mode are you playing? its a little better in trios

[tame magnet]

im on !

unless you meant hunt

then im not on

[hasty cedar]

Does Sparks Pistol have spitzer as scarce ammo?

[tame magnet]

no

[light sky]

obviously is the fun game Hunt

we can have ssnowy carry us

[tame magnet]

i carried @crystal bay the other day

at mammons

[jolly canyon]

What can use shredder ammo?

[hasty cedar]

Only Nitro express I thought

[deep ginkgo]

Trios

Can znyone tell me whtas the goal of extracting with a bounty? Like what do you get?

[hasty cedar]

You get “bounty” and it converts to money and xp. I don’t remember the amount per 1 bounty

[deep ginkgo]

How can i convert it? I have like 3k money

[hasty cedar]

Same as grabbing clues and I think if you kill bosses solo it rewards more

[hasty cedar]

Automatic

[outer iron]

Press Q. It swaps to beetle. How did this even happen?

[paper wharf]

This channel is soo much better than console

[hasty cedar]

Pretty sure console talk in here all the time. Atleast i do

[tame magnet]

youre welcome

pc is king

[paper wharf]

@tame magnet I just love Batman

[tame magnet]

love you more

[hasty cedar]

I feel like console would’nt be as dead if we could actually group together and not have to random queue into each other

[tame magnet]

have you tried lfg?

[paper wharf]

Agreed

[tame magnet]

yall both console - team up

[paper wharf]

Im on PS5

[crystal bay]

So true

[paper wharf]

Im down

[hasty cedar]

Doesn’t work like that. PlayStation cant add Xbox to lobbies

[paper wharf]

I know that part

All my buddies are offline atm

https://tenor.com/view/tigger-sad-bye-leaving-gif-24387878

[hasty cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/make-some-new-friends-the-underground-railroad-know-people-meet-friends-meet-new-people-gif-21564863

[tame magnet]

lobby roulette

[paper wharf]

Thats what i do in randoms

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-ride-south-park-gif-25853218

[hasty cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-drunk-shocked-surprised-gif-15546336

[paper wharf]

Lol wtf happen there

[tame magnet]

its me when i was younger

[young panther]

im the other guy

[hasty cedar]

Some drunk guy. I don’t remember the full context anymore, but its still funny

[paper wharf]

@hasty cedar very funny

[icy elbow]

it’s from trailer park boys

No further context needed

[sinful bloom]

Should i pair ammo types, as in run two medium ammo weapons, or does that lead to running dry fast?

[tame magnet]

i like one spec, one base

so i can always have a chance at refill

[sinful bloom]

Oh thats a nifty way to do it

[paper wharf]

Lol i just git paired with 2 lvl 1 Xbox players

[remote moss]

meatheads are straight up better than players sometimes

just makes it so you cant fight in one place, lol

needs like 4 pennyshot to kill too

[paper wharf]

@remote moss I use dynamite on em

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-gif-4090446168494834371

[remote moss]

im too much of a meta slave

gotta run shots and ammo

[sick bramble]

whats the meta rn?

[remote moss]

mosin spitzer

[pine rose]

does Poacher work with dark dynamite?

[astral moss]

I think it die after 3 heavy hit of bomb lance.

Bomb lance > meathead.

[whole mist]

no because dark dynamite is a placeable object

[full jungle]

You lie

[whole mist]

[spark plaza]

amogus

[full jungle]

No

Someone ban this guy

[remote moss]

if cyclone changes are anything to show

i hope they dont touch semi auto that much on the next patch

unless they figure out a cool way to balance carbine and dolch p at least

[light swallow]

Hey all so I haven't played the game since release so im pretty much new to it all over again, anyone mind doing a match with a newbie lol? Need to be given some tips and tricks and stuff

[spark plaza]

Look for #na

[turbid dock]

Over the course of one game we managed to

1. spectate a player dying to rotjaw nearby and chasing their poor duo into a bear
2. kill rotjaw
3. spectate a solo killing the boss team
4. block said solos extract with chariot to fight them in the woods

Felt nasty but holy shit it was hilarious

The tarot cards are such a funny addition

[wicked fox]

The Marathon is such an accurate weapon.

[remote moss]

its nice that theyre in daily tribute

already have 7 chariots for no reason

[remote moss]

better than ranger in general once you discount levering

[pale lintel]

Anyone else experience long queue times

[potent arrow]

yeah there pretty lengthy, especially if your also trying to fill with randoms

[remote moss]

yeah event was strongest in the first 3 days

new delay nowadays

finally managed to make use of regen, had double sun and double judgment for 7 minutes of heh, invincibility

[potent arrow]

we fought a duo the other day that necrod three times in a row

[remote moss]

fought mosin uppercut so they couldnt really get me as long as i ratted around trees

lmao

[remote moss]

in a winning way or a free kd way

[potent arrow]

bit of both, they did eventually kill me

[remote moss]

too bad, its fine as long as you went positive though

[turbid dock]

Yeah they're throwing cards at us

[potent arrow]

their gonna give me rez bolt ptsd tho

[turbid dock]

I do hope that they'll be less common after the event, but rn the high frequency of cards is amazing

[potent arrow]

I had assumed they are going away after the event but maybe not

[turbid dock]

On the dev stream they described them as a new mechanic that seemed like it was going to stay, but i don't think we have official confirmation

There's too much work put into them to remove them tho

[jaunty thunder]

Never in my time playing this game did anyone ever say the rain makes gameplay better.

[turbid dock]

I bet they're gonna adjust them a bit after the event based on usage data and player sentiment tho

[remote moss]

some people think so

reality is that you cant do anything without the rat hearing you first, its only good for pushing long ammo rats once its heavy rain and even then, its a visual disadvantage in the forest if youre the one pushing first

[turbid dock]

I'll say it for you right now, rain makes gameplay better, the heavy rain is great cover for pushing/rotating so it helps make fights more dynamic

Rain is the close range player's home field

[remote moss]

yes and remember, all you have to do is wait for audio cues

and the other guy trying to push will always be heard and seen first

compounds are not very fun to fight while the rain is on heavy, since its bad audio for everyone but the defenders

sweet, we fucked hidden stats forest long ammo campers, they deserved to get fucked by vigor sun and judgment

i have 8 spare suns already, but i need fucking judgment for the funny combo

[turbid dock]

Sun the goat

[frigid ibex]

I always found it weird. Heavy rain helped me a lot for pushing bounty team, and then I get on hunt general and people cope super hard on rain, blaming everything they can think of on rain.

[jaunty thunder]

@turbid dock if it was implemented properly I would agree.

[turbid dock]

I only wish it had a bit of a visible or audible effect for enemies, tho i guess we'll learn the card sounds eventually

[frigid ibex]

My experience and the advantages I can take aren't the same with people's general experience in this chat

[jaunty thunder]

My experience is 6000 hours

[remote moss]

only complainers come here while the normal people just get a w with rain, obviously

[jaunty thunder]

I play the game as a consumer, not a moderator

[frigid ibex]

What does that mean

I'm not a moderator when I play

[south shore]

Same

[turbid dock]

Ok, spitballing a potential strat: play solo, banish, use Magician for a decoy, pretend you're a duo, hit them with the secret self-necro

[south shore]

I have no power in game

[frigid ibex]

You are though

[south shore]

Only my hands

And dizz hands

[frigid ibex]

I've seen your dev console

[south shore]

Ok but still

[frigid ibex]

When did I ignore you btw

[south shore]

I deserve a little treat every now and then

[frigid ibex]

I forgot to ask this

[jaunty thunder]

It means it's not a nice-to-have thing, it's literally sensory overload

[turbid dock]

I feel like the new rain sounds are very pleasant

[south shore]

Rain is sensory overload?

Thats

[jaunty thunder]

All we needed to obfuscate the rain is some droplets on the screen.

[turbid dock]

Not really that invasive on the ears

[jaunty thunder]

@south shore it's not real rain, it's a game rain designed by someone who thinks that's what rain is like

[south shore]

I mean its fairly accurate to real rain. Ive seen quite a bit of it.

[turbid dock]

It's true, Germans don't know what rain looks like, it doesn't rain there

[jaunty thunder]

Maybe you aren't supposed to make rain accurate in a fantasy game shooter?

[south shore]

Shame 😔

[jaunty thunder]

Realism isn't gaming - Gabe Newell

[turbid dock]

Idk what you're trying to say rn, the way I'm reading it you're contradicting yourself hah

[south shore]

So do you want it real or not because this is contradicting your last message

[frigid ibex]

Kora ignored me

[south shore]

Payback

Hi dizz

[frigid ibex]

For what

[south shore]

💖

For ignoring

Me

Today

[frigid ibex]

Did you ping me

[south shore]

You didnt respond to my ping immediately

Yes

[frigid ibex]

Oh

[south shore]

My world was shattered

[frigid ibex]

I see now

Your rain world was shattered

[south shore]

Yes

Also game still hard

[frigid ibex]

I'm hooked to my singleplayer game, didn't notice your ping

Also rain is cool

👍

[south shore]

Rain is cool

I love rain

[frigid ibex]

I miss mariner

[south shore]

Miss Mariner? A baddie for sure.

[frigid ibex]

Would be

[outer iron]

It's great. The only thing I wish is that it had the really thin iron sights that the ranger/infantry have.

Hard to hit targets when my sight is bigger than the target. 😔

[remote moss]

just hipfire devil, bro

[outer iron]

I'm talking about sniping with it.

[remote moss]

can still hipfire devil

anyway, thats a problem with most sights so its too bad

[scarlet plinth]

Bullet after bullet…gun after gun…

[south shore]

Gullet after gullet

Bun after bun

I raid the buffet

And fill my tum

[scarlet plinth]

I havent play hunt for a long time

Theres that one quote from my prof referencing a song to me i remembered…

[remote moss]

its good for your health

[south shore]

But not for your stealth

https://tenor.com/view/running-away-fat-guy-fail-gif-18087329

[remote moss]

mans gotta roll

[indigo jewel]

well well well

[remote moss]

today is strange, had a lot of good players

like, mosin rats but they could actually aim at worst, beats the passive ones

[indigo jewel]

they were all me i play on 3 accounts at the same time

[remote moss]

omg

you insane person

[indigo jewel]

i know i know

[remote moss]

seriously though, where the fuck did these guys come from, lol

first 3 days na, everyones too aggressive, then two days of bad mosin rats

[eternal cairn]

CAN'T HAVE FUCKIN EXPLOSIVE CROSSBOW IN THE GAME BUT ALL LONG AMMO JUST SITS OUTSIDE RANGE TO BE BOTTOMS CAMPING THE GAME SO YOU CAN'T EVEN LEAVE

[remote moss]

yep, thats how they like playing

not much to do except wait them out better

[eternal cairn]

Stop saying you give any fucks about balance

[indigo jewel]

my bad guys it was me

[remote moss]

we forgive you

now repent by engaging in 9 bomb lance kills

[indigo jewel]

i main compact ammo is what it is

[remote moss]

you better be using fmj compact

otherwise

youre a sinner

[indigo jewel]

i use a bit of this and a bit of that

[scarlet plinth]

Anyways whats new in hs

[indigo jewel]

little spiders

[eternal cairn]

Why even bother making any other guns

[scarlet plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/aaron-paul-crying-bathroom-hospital-gif-13122580113518314211

5 months of no HS

(Played since June 4)

[wicked fox]

That’s a good point. It is kind of thick for a far away head shot.

[remote moss]

could be worse

[remote moss]

tarot cards that kinda affect gameplay but not really, very comforting though

sun gives fast regen. not fast enough to be that useful unless paired with vigor, and lasts too small a time

its 60 secs each sun card

uhhh, world shows all bosses

tower kills all ai 65m and does 50% dmg to bosses

and hanged man, spectate nearest player. probs the only ones worth something

[maiden basin]

so let me get this straight some cry babies whine about explosive ammo so you remove them and make them "scarce" not once in this event have I found explosive ammo in game

[remote moss]

basically, except there are very few cry babies

very broken and obnoxious things to fight

ah yes, 6 star night lobbies, every team hiding in a corner waiting to 3rd party and do nothing

i was wondering where these people went

theyre still here

very fun mechanic to barely see shit on rain fog and night maps

[wicked saffron]

Finally 😄

[eternal cairn]

I just want to fuckin play clash and instead of fixing a bug we have to wait 2 months

but no explosive crossbow was the worrrssttt

[eternal cairn]

But spitzer though

These devs hate their players no fuckin joke dude

They only like the sweatlords

[remote moss]

sweatlords are a nice way to describe bad players that do annoying things cause their skills too low to do otherwise

just gotta slow down and go with the floooow

maybe run some mosin spitzer to counter them

[eternal cairn]

But I don't want to be forced to use bullshit when I find other guns fun

[remote moss]

too bad, its a game of positioning and waiting until someones stupid enough to peek

you can copy the playstyle and use your preferred weapon, still kinda works

[eternal cairn]

so hold the game hostage?

Nice ncie

[remote moss]

all im sayings is, if the average high kd player does it

[eternal cairn]

that's skill right there

[remote moss]

it must be the totally best way to play

exactly

player freedom is what makes hunt fun for the avg player, right

[eternal cairn]

~sarcasm~

[remote moss]

just sucks cause it also means games not exactly balanced that well for

the gameplay these people choose to take

[eternal cairn]

Mosin hasn't been nerfed once

Not

Fuckin

Once

[remote moss]

nerf mosin, semi auto kids will start destroying bad mosin players

lol

its a dangerous choice, all these vets are already on mosin because its easy and high limb dmg even if you cant land bodies

take away the limb dmg and high base dmg and see how fucking easy it is to destroy these people

they might suck, but better to fight boring bad players than to constantly get shredded by good cyclone players

[eternal cairn]

I could not give a fuck about the feelings of mosin sweat lords

[remote moss]

they arent the only ones running mosin

but they are a pretty big part of the playerbase

[eternal cairn]

Centi bleed? Explosive crossbow? TOO over powered compared to the mossiinnn

So nerf it

[remote moss]

centi bleed is pretty frustrating, explosive crossbow is the campiest cqc weapon in the game

[eternal cairn]

so no one gets to enjoy it

[remote moss]

free dmg, infinite safety by ratting around corners

frag bow does something similar except its more spammable and bleed pressure

[eternal cairn]

It was the most ANTI camp weapon in the game

[remote moss]

yes, and it was also THE BEST camp weapon in the game

and what do you bet with all these mosin sweats out here

good thing it never caught on

[eternal cairn]

"but no one owes you a playstyle"

[remote moss]

they dont

play however you want, its only the 1% in hunt that get screwed in 6 star anyway

[eternal cairn]

Then why fuckin nerf anything

[remote moss]

idk what the percentages are, but most players are chilling

idk, explo crossbow sucked though

made me mad more than mosin spitzer forest

[eternal cairn]

the fuckin mosin long range shit sucks

idgaf like the devs dont give a fuck about what I like

My whole point is there are plenty of over powered constantly used bullshit in this fuckin game. For them to even remotely mention shit like balance

Kill traps all day now, mosin and mosin spitzer, multishot shotguns, spam with minimum punishment and recoil

[compact sinew]

These stupid ping cheating SOB's FIX YOUR SHIT

[remote moss]

i dunno, i really like my low skill spam

more fun than low skill spitzer

[undone matrix]

Where does video proof of a cheater on PC go?

I shared on twitter and tagged hunt/crytek etc

[eternal cairn]

!report

[graceful hedge]

If you would like to report a player, you can do so on the Team Details tab in your Last Mission section on the home page. Select the player -> Open Profile -> Report. It is also accessible in the Last Match tab at any time. If you have additional proof you would like to provide, you can find out how to reach out to official support here: #customer-support

**Please note that you can still report people even if you don't have their SteamID or cannot open their profile by providing your own SteamID, time of the incident with a time zone and region on the Hunt Showdown website (link is in the in the Customer Support channel). **

**Hiding statistics/profiles does not prevent reporting. **

[eternal cairn]

You need video proof and other shit before they listen tho

[undone matrix]

Yeah have proof

[jaunty thunder]

@turbid dock This isn't a college debate, you're not gona catch me "contradicting myself"
The more realistic you make a game the shittier it gets - it's how every game has always worked.

[eternal cairn]

Buckshot would be the best if that were the case.

[dusky wing]

Is MMR completely broken and fictional or is the game somehow so empty in Europe that there is no way I'd get players otherwise?

[deft panther]

Timezones, active players, and current MMR
If it can't find anyone in your bracket it'll branch out

Try playing on OCE for a day and waiting 15+ minutes for a game anywhere past 9pm

Only for your opponent to be a single 3 star money farming

[dusk marlin]

they should at eating and digestion/excretion into the game. imagine losing your sneak on someone because that bowl of beans you ate earlier is acting up, or imagine just waltzing along and you hear someone ripping ass in the bushes next to yu

[jaunty thunder]

@dusk marlin that's absolutely genius imo

[deft panther]

They should add tripping. Leg breaks, arm breaks, gun jamming

Then base building

Then rename it to DayZ

[dusk marlin]

fortnite kids cranking out builds across the map

dinosaurs next, make it ark

[lofty sinew]

no thanks. if you think Hunt has bugs its got nothing on DayZ

[dusk marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-incredibles-syndrome-ang-when-everyones-super-no-one-will-be-super-heroes-gif-5389961

if you purposefully add bugs to every aspect of the game are they really bugs?

[lofty sinew]

I think they're just features you don't necessarily like in that case.

[deft panther]

DayZ standalone on release was just peak buggy mess

[lofty sinew]

It's still more shonky than a game that has allegedly been in development that long has any right to be

[mild flower]

This is so real

And they extract the moment they realise you're there

[mild flower]

Make sure you're queueing trios and not duos

[dusky wing]

I am qeueing trios

[lofty sinew]

it's like 4am in europe

are you expecting peak player numbers right now for.. why?

[dusky wing]

I am expecting a 25 minute wait to get players my skill set, not a 2 minute wait for a match I will lose anyhow

[lofty sinew]

Ah. Can't please everyone. you would be among the very few happy with a 25 minute queue time.

[deft panther]

^^^ I'd hate that

[clear fossil]

im sure it could get a match of you same skill set in just 5 or so minutes

EU servers arent that empty of players

[lofty sinew]

At 4am?

[clear fossil]

yeah

[lofty sinew]

And why are you so sure of that.

[clear fossil]

because half the players in eu are russians and chinese

and they have a day over there

[dusky wing]

I am getting primarily Russians

[lofty sinew]

50% hey. do you have access to the matchmaking backend or

[clear fossil]

if 50% of the randoms i play with speak russian
they are russians

[lofty sinew]

therefore 50% of the eu playerbase is russian and chinese. ok

[clear fossil]

and every game has 2 or 3 names which cant even be shown ingame and are just shown as those big blanks

[clear fossil]

well i use myself as the sample size but based on what i have heard from others it seems to be the same

if half the players you play with are russians it would be safe to assume that half the players in general are russians

especially now at night?

[lofty sinew]

I don't see the point of trying to prove a system that works with numbers and who is available is wrong based off vague extrapolations.

[clear fossil]

well if i go play 3 games i swear in only 1 of them i might have a non russian teammates

yes it being night affects it

but i always play during night so

it usually takes me like 2 or 3 minutes to find matches

when i do play with my friends in duo vs trio

and the enemies are usually same or little lower than us

do you hve any data to argument against me then? if you dont have game dev data on player numbers on EU region personal experience is best i can work with?

[lofty sinew]

No I don't I just don't at all see the point of trying to argue it without that information

[dusk marlin]

do you guys always play with randoms? any solo advocates here? i prefer to run solo just because that's what ive always done in other games but is this one where you really REALLY should squad up even with randoms?

[clear fossil]

the whole point of this game is to kill bounties so yes, being with randoms makes it way more likely to work out even if randoms are well random

[lofty sinew]

always randoms (though i rarely play randoms). no interest in solo. solo is hard mode.

[dusk marlin]

damn guess maybe im just a glutton for punishment haha

[clear fossil]

if this was tarkov or something with other goals and without needing to actually kill a boss every match i would also play solo

[deft panther]

Been trying out solo recently, won't lie- rat mode engaged hard core

[lofty sinew]

Tarkov is easier solo unless your team coordination is good anyway. same is not true in hunt

[dusk marlin]

you can extract without taking the bounties though yeah?

interesting, im coming from tarkov so thats my perspective atm

[clear fossil]

well yeah but theres not much you will get from extracting without bounties

the entire game is basically designed to be centered on the bounties

[dusk marlin]

live to see another day? 😅

[lofty sinew]

it's centered around pvp. the bounties are just supposed to be enough of an incentive to fight for it / have pvp center around them

[clear fossil]

well yeah, but at least in tarkov quests and items can be gathered and extracted with but there is none of that in this game

[dusk marlin]

hrmm might have to start rolling with randoms it sounds like

[clear fossil]

you can tell this isnt a surival game for the fact it has MMR

[lofty sinew]

you can just use your randos as bait and play essentially solo still anyway (though they may not love you for that)

[dusk marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/you-exist-to-protect-me-take-care-of-me-you-work-for-me-do-your-job-lucifer-morningstar-gif-16835430

[static briar]

Is the spider building also in bounty clash?

[lofty sinew]

I think it's most fun to just play with your randos and just see how it plays out anyway. Unless they are genuinely useless

No the lair is not in clash. it would take up like 1/3 of the total available area

[dusk marlin]

problem is I AM THE ONE who will be useless rn, having no map knowledge and still getting the hang of it all

[clear fossil]

sometimes randoms are useless and die off instantly and start shouting at you for not running in blindly

while other times they carry you hard

[lofty sinew]

that's fine. Most players are fairly chill. everyone had to learn somehow.

[clear fossil]

havent heard anyone start calling out anyone elses skills in randoms yet at least

[lofty sinew]

i've run into it a few times but it's definitely the exception. i mean. it's the internet. you're gonna run into toxic people having a bad day at least sometimes.

[dusk marlin]

it would probably be self evident when they see my little baby account in the lobby haha

[static briar]

People who don't like noobs will just instantly leave ur lobby

so you dont gotta worry about them being toxic in game

[clear fossil]

ive got someone complaining to my steam profile for sitting in a bush for the whole match with randoms... idk why because i havent done that so

[lofty sinew]

yeah. When they do just consider them having done you a favor.

[clear fossil]

probably one of the people who got mad i didnt rush in to die

[dusky wing]

I started escaping prematurely with my team of randos when I see a name I recognise

[lofty sinew]

choose your favourite aphorism about people and having opinions about things I guess.

[dusk marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-3584473422170938815

in your squad?

[dusky wing]

No, picking up the bounty

[lofty sinew]

presumably when someone they've been murdered by a lot picks up bountyt

[dusk marlin]

hahahaha

[deft panther]

I got a couple 100,100's added on my friends list from the OCE servers, and I get messages when I kill them, it's pretty funny.

Can't say I've had anyone rage at me for sitting in a bush or pushing prematurely tho

[dusky wing]

Did a complete 180 with my team when I saw the same solo that wiped me 3 other matches pick up the bounty

[lofty sinew]

I've never had a profile comment from a rager somehow. I almost feel like i've missed out

[dusky wing]

I refuse to give them that pleasure

[lofty sinew]

I mean it sucks to die, but if you killed them it would be delicious

[deft panther]

I love checking profiles of people who have crazy plays against me, seeing 3k hours, and then the slew of slurs and comments screaming "hacker" in their profile section

[lofty sinew]

and you get better by playing people better than yourself

[clear fossil]

only thing ive got is someone here on discord noticing ive become wellspring in a soul survivor match they were in

[lofty sinew]

but I also understand getting tired of getting absolutely paddled.

[sinful bloom]

Question for the group. Are the shotgun special ammo, specifically dragonbreath and flechette, just a terrible pick for solo play? Ive ran it a couple times and it just feels like I would've 1hitko using buckshot

[deft panther]

I'd never take flachette even if I was playing group play

[clear fossil]

flechette doesnt 1 tap nor does dragons breath

[lofty sinew]

they aren't inherently terrible but you play them differently to buckshot and if 1taps is what you want they aren't it

[dusky wing]

Flechette is ok as 1 option if you are for some reason going shotgun only

[static briar]

dragons breath can 100% one tap

[lofty sinew]

yeah you have to be seriously barrel stuffing but it can

[dusky wing]

I've won shotgun duels several times entirely because I ran standard while they ran dragons

[clear fossil]

can it? most ive seen it do dmg is like70?

[static briar]

Personally I like dragons breath in a specter because it makes people panic so even if you don't one shot they never manage to hit you because half their health just burned off in one frame

[deft panther]

Dragons breath can one tap.
But only if you're touching tips and whispering sweet nothing's into the enemies ear

[lofty sinew]

not 1tapping is fine if you basically expect it and play around expecting that

[static briar]

hey man If you've got a 5 meter tip just say that

[lofty sinew]

but it's terrible if it doesn't and you don't expect it to not

[clear fossil]

ive shot someone once 3 times with dragons breath and still had to fonish them with a pistol, but i magine they must have been low as hell after the third one, it some distance between us

[dusky wing]

If you run dragons you should realls start focusing on barrels

[static briar]

If you have faith in any of the shotguns to one tap ur playing them wrong, Hunt will scam you outa damage everywhich way always be ready to have shit hit the fan

[lofty sinew]

i mean most buckshot shotties will 1tap pretty consistantly if you aim center mass within their 1tap range

[static briar]

plus even if he managed to run off and heal bro is missing a few bars

[clear fossil]

yeah

i fear dragons breath users just because of the longterm dmg

[lofty sinew]

just with flechette or DB you are more playing around status effect harassment or things like.. headshot with flechette, or environmental fire with DB or whatever

like you can cause heavy bleed or ignite at far bigger ranges than buck will 1tap

[static briar]

I started running specter DB and hellfire handcrossbow with 3 hellfirebombs and a water firebomb, so I could be the fireman. And I have a 100% winrate with the build across like 20 hunts

[dusk marlin]

so if im running with randos should i be micd up?

[static briar]

people do not know how to handle fire engulfing everything

[dusky wing]

Communication is key

[static briar]

If you can type fast you will be fine

[lofty sinew]

you're gonna have much more chance of success if you communicate. not all randos will. but some will.

[dusky wing]

In spite of this I have recently had someone walk into the elaborate trap I made after I communicated to them that that barrel has a lengthy string of alert wires

[dusk marlin]

4wpm :)

[lofty sinew]

if people actually choose to use their mic generally i feel like their willingness to at least try to play as a team is much higher

[dusk marlin]

and duos or trios if im the solo random?

trios probs?

[lofty sinew]

just do trios

imho

there are things to like or dislike about duos but more people seem to queue trios regardless

[dusk marlin]

good to know

[lofty sinew]

plus when there is 2 other people your chances of getting a convenient carry go up

we will ignore the opposite scenario where matchmaking expects you to carry the team.

because.. reasons.

[frank fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-funny-monkey-silly-monkey-hungry-dog-chomp-gif-5757167629314883974

[dusk marlin]

im in a match and got stuck in the options menu heeeeellp

:(

[clear fossil]

no idea

[dusk marlin]

escape no work and clicking the esc option no work XD

[mild flower]

are you still at the beginning of the match? best option is just alt f4 then try to reconnect

[dusk marlin]

ill try but wtf is that bug xD

[mild flower]

not sure

but menu stuck bugs are pretty common in games from my experience

and alt f4 then rejoin seems to be the best way to go

[lofty sinew]

there seem to be a couple new ones with this event update. outside of lobby you can just go to the bloodbonds purchase screen if you get stuck. idk about in lobby

[dusky wing]

Did enough complaining that I just had a great round

[tepid yoke]

I am trying to reconnect to a game but seems impossible

nothing loads

only see my hotbar and part of the map

[hallow sail]

Anyone else experiencing oddly long queues?

[dusk marlin]

US West 2-3min?

[lofty sinew]

they always happen eventually. it can just be real pain persisting long enough for it to happen sometimes.

[dusky wing]

Making sure I friend them good teammates

[timber escarp]

Question besides the death pact are there any other pacts that share the same goal to defeat the sculptor

[remote moss]

teammates average out to being pretty useful so thats nice

[urban steppe]

we rise up

[remote moss]

youre lucky we dont have sonar

wait till they add a 10 point trait that gives you sonar to detect rats

[urban steppe]

[visual quail]

👎

[visual quail]

??? It’s 5.99 a month bro

[remote moss]

shits too expensive, im dirt poor

also bruh, you good? you went quiet last game, lol

[lofty sinew]

5.99 a month for what now

[remote moss]

oh you know

subscription service, like youtube premium

[lofty sinew]

youtube premium is significantly more than $6 a month sadly. Worth it though imho

[molten moon]

[message hidden]
-# Discord now requires ID Verification in order to view certain messages. Learn More

[urban steppe]

least obvious cookie logger

mods get him

[lofty sinew]

so subtle

Could there be something suspicious in the Learn More link?

[molten moon]

lol it's a troll from discord themselves :p

[molten moon]

nope totally legit trust me bro /s

[remote moss]

for fucks sake, had to step away for a sec right as we got pushed

lucky bastards, theyre all in the open but teammates were scared shitless

[compact sinew]

whats up with being last on the server, looting and the servers crashing?

[remote moss]

us e moment

[lofty sinew]

it's that sort of thing that is making my dedicate to cqc loadout crack. I hate not being able to punish with ranged fire :\

[remote moss]

lol, teammate couldve won the 1v3 but he decided he was too scared to peek while they were ressing 4m from him

he had a shotgun too, heard the very very loud sound

didnt even peek while the guy got up, he just went "omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg" and then died

lol

[mild flower]

how hard did they hit penetration? i just threw a hive bomb at someone and they took tons of hits from it then wallbanged them through wood to the chest with 1865 carbine fmj and they didnt die

[lofty sinew]

all bullets have reduced damage on first pen now aside from spitzer

[remote moss]

shouldve done at least 100 if it was body fmj

couldve been limb shot

[mild flower]

as if spitzer needed another buff

[lofty sinew]

Crytek loves to baby the long ammo crowd what can you do

[mild flower]

they were standing sideways tho doesnt limb pen mean thats impossible

[remote moss]

listen here, buddy. the mosin crowd are a respected crowd of people that insta buy every new skin with bb cause theyre rich

making them mad is a bad idea

[mild flower]

is fmj still worth bringing on 1865

[remote moss]

soooo legs?

and arms are extended when holding gun, can still hit arms and miss body

[mild flower]

i mean maybe but it looked like it was at least a lower torso shot

i mightve just been wrong

[remote moss]

doesnt matter, just keep wallbanging

[lofty sinew]

sounds like a limb hit I guess, plus reduction from pen.

[remote moss]

youll end up getting free kills

[lofty sinew]

I mean I nearly always bring FMJ on compact and medium. and wallbangs are very possible. just not as easy as they used to be I guess

[mild flower]

mightve had antidote, doesnt that reduce bee dmg

[lofty sinew]

only stops poison not damage iirc

they were probably on a whisker of health

[visual quail]

Huh?

[remote moss]

you stopped talking for the entire match, bruh

[visual quail]

What do you mean

[remote moss]

here i was, about to call you and your clan a bunch of names

[visual quail]

I haven’t played anything but shooting range today

[remote moss]

that wasnt you yesterday? the fuck

[visual quail]

if it was on randos then no

[sour void]

When we die during a match, upon returning to the lobby, the Death Cheat is automatically removed. This means it doesn't remain saved after death.
This affects progression and ultimately harms the experience, as the player must reacquire the Death Cheat every time they die.

[remote moss]

okay good, i dont have to insult you because of the way you played, phew

[lofty sinew]

YEs death cheat is currently bugged.

[visual quail]

What happened lol. Was it a BB?

[remote moss]

no, a guy with a fish name, thought it was you

[sour void]

It shouldn't, right?

[remote moss]

he didnt rotate at all, just held bad angles with dolch p and crouchwalked everywhere

[visual quail]

Ppl be saying that but I must be just continuously lucky cuz I haven’t had any issues

[remote moss]

i was holding back talking shit to you after the match, lmao

[lofty sinew]

no it is a bug, I am sure they are aware of it, and we will get a fix sooner or later

I don't think you are garunateed to lose it at end of round

but it seems like it happens a lot

[visual quail]

☠️ no literally my name rn is [BB] ><(((°>

[remote moss]

got it

man, i wouldve been sad if you actually played like that, lol

[visual quail]

(It’s a fish)

[remote moss]

yes, i can tell

[visual quail]

I am an ego peeker and angle holder

Gg

[remote moss]

good

[turbid dock]

Hah i just said that because i was getting two conflicting messages from you, so i assumed i wasn't understanding what you wanted to say about rain. I read "this is rain made by someone who doesn't know what rain is like" and then that it shouldn't be realistic, so i was just unsure what you were actually trying to say

[turbid dock]

Ego peeking is awesome

If i peek this sniper from this angle i can totally line up a shot on him before he sees me, it will be awesome

[dawn mantle]

Do most guns kill on headshot no matter the range?

[lofty sinew]

all

[turbid dock]

Ya, all guns that fire single projectiles

[mild flower]

is there a wall penetration damage calculator for post-nerf

[lofty sinew]

well, I suppose, buckshot is the only exception i am aware of.

[mild flower]

penny

dragons breath

[dawn mantle]

I'd imagine utility bolts don't

[lofty sinew]

i think i've seen a chart of the damage loss on first and further pens for each ammo type, but i don't have it

[mild flower]

bomb lance

[lofty sinew]

pretty sure they all do actually

[visual quail]

By egoing I mean peeking down hp. Like after being shot

[turbid dock]

Yeah doesn't like, even chaos bolt do an instant OHK now?

[dawn mantle]

Even the 1 damage choke bolt for the hand crossbow?

[lofty sinew]

you can headshot with choke and poison anyway pretty sure

[mild flower]

maybe a command

[dawn mantle]

bro what lmao

[mild flower]

!penetration

[visual quail]

Nobody expects me to repeek with 1hp 🫡

[dawn mantle]

Is bounty clash trios only?

[visual quail]

Yes

[dawn mantle]

Nobody expects me to rush them while on fire

[dawn mantle]

hopefully me going in as a solo puts me against some veritable idiots then

[turbid dock]

Hah, i just use it to mean any peek that is at a disadvantage, 1hp peek, long range peek against a sniper, any peek against someone holding my angle, etc

Trust me, I'll totally win it, I'm a god

dies

[visual quail]

☠️

[lofty sinew]

i consider re-peeking windows and such to be an ego peek i guess

[turbid dock]

Depends on the enemy cycle time, but yeah

[visual quail]

Tbh I usually choose to ego peek because I no longer have to worry about movement. Since I’m a 1 tap anyways I don’t need to protect my noggin, so I just can focus entirely on aiming.

[dawn mantle]

Why is hunt using 90% of my GPU in the fucking main menu

[visual quail]

Bad game ☠️

[lofty sinew]

idk. you can limit your menu FPS if it's an issue.

[dawn mantle]

Devs mining bitcoin or some shit?

I can set max overall but not just menu

[turbid dock]

The game has got a whole ass game scene loaded up and rendering it as fast as it can

If they were cool they'd add a frame limiter to the menu

[lofty sinew]

oh it's foreground and background you can set. i 'member

[dawn mantle]

like its the main menu

I'm fine with 30FPS on the main fucken menu lmao

[visual quail]

No. You need a crisp 120 fps 4k image in order to enjoy their menu properly >:(((((

[mild flower]

its a very high quality menu

[turbid dock]

They could also frame limit the rendering of the 3d elements and render the UI separately at your refresh rate, lots of opportunities here

[dawn mantle]

I've played with minecraft shaders more optimized than this fucken main menu

[turbid dock]

We believe in you crytek, you can do this

[visual quail]

Welcome to hunt. Where the art team is better than the dev team ☠️

[dawn mantle]

isn't that every company?

Cosmetics make money. Free updates don't.

[visual quail]

Free updates keep a game from dying. Cosmetics don’t.

[turbid dock]

Well, both

[lofty sinew]

art is more straight forward than optimisation.

[dawn mantle]

as long as the game runs "well enough" then they wouldn't care

The company as a whole I mean, not specifically the devs. Some of the devs probably wish they could do more.

[turbid dock]

I just don't think anyone has brought the issue of the main menu hogging resources to their attention

It probably doesn't strike them as an issue

[lofty sinew]

how are you quantifiably comparing two domains that have no relationship to each other. what does "Art team better than dev team" even actually mean

[visual quail]

I mean hunt has much bigger issues than the main menu

[visual quail]

It’s legit just flaming the dev team lol

[dawn mantle]

relative skill in their respective fields, I'd assume.

[visual quail]

Tbh I shouldn’t flame them. Because it’s not their fault the game is going the direction it is

[turbid dock]

Also, i use my GPU fans slowing down to know that I've found a match

[lofty sinew]

yes i don't think you can judge that in any objective way I guess.

[visual quail]

I just think the dev team as a whole, primarily the game directors, are driving the game into the dirt while the art team is actually doing an amazing job keeping hunt afloat and profitable

[lofty sinew]

Game is still rough in some ways. Will they ever get entirely on top of that. I think we can say a strong "maybe" on that front.

[visual quail]

I mean they have done good things recently, but it’s still a far cry down from peak hunt.

[lofty sinew]

how do you feel the game is being "run into the dirt" exactly

to me at least, the core game is pretty solid and more solid than it has been in a while. And my experience of it at least has been that that hasn't changed hugely over the last few years.

[visual quail]

There is no skill expression, and they are constantly encouraging and buffing no skill stuff.

[lofty sinew]

no skill expression. that's a pretty wild take

[visual quail]

I mean for jimmies running shotguns and duelies, the game is great right now.

[urban steppe]

low elo lobby: most people will double peek because they don't know not to

high elo lobby: most people won't expect a double peek because they think that anyone experienced at the game won't do it

[visual quail]

Or just spamming with something until eventually they get lucky 🍀

[lofty sinew]

that's the head game which is kinda fun imho. less fun when you lose it though.

[dawn mantle]

do ai spawn in bounty clash

[lofty sinew]

minimal but yes

[urban steppe]

I dodged a drilling shot aimed at my head by crouching earlier 😎

always abuse crouch spam in cqc raah

[visual quail]

Let’s nerf wallbangs (skillful plays) but buff limb damage (less skillful, why reward shit aim)

[lofty sinew]

neo moments always feel good. I've won a couple of duels recently with judicious no cover crouches.

[remote moss]

depends, theres still plenty of skill when youre a good player making rotates to catch some rat fucks out of position

[dawn mantle]

I cant find a single ai

[remote moss]

problem is that for rat long ammo players its less skill and more positioning where youre betting on people wanting to play the game so you punish that

[urban steppe]

yeah I've been abusing crouches since I started playing

back when the starter knife was the best melee tool
you could dodge a knife headshot by crouching

[remote moss]

very annoying fuckers

[urban steppe]

and win the melee trade

[lofty sinew]

wallbangs still exist they're just less strong. interesting to insist wallbangs are skilled play when an easy way to get them is with spam.

[visual quail]

Yeah me shooting a guy consecutively 5 times through the wall with a mosin and uppercut is spam and not skillful 😢

What is that take

[remote moss]

its not skillful to use audio cues to fight someone who cant fight back because they lack the skill or gun necessary to wallbang you

therefore nerf all non long ammo wallbangs even worse

[lofty sinew]

right and levering a full mag of wildland fmj at a building is also skilled play

[dawn mantle]

Bruh. I go to bounty clash looking for a fight...

[remote moss]

its hilarious that you can still abuse fmj, just screws every normal person using normal ammos

[dawn mantle]

Didn't even count as any XP for the damn gun I was trying to level

[remote moss]

@vernal venture you sick bastard, i wont forget how you've hurt me

[urban steppe]

fmj/long are the only outliers
everyone else using normal ammo or buckshot got royally screwed over

[visual quail]

Key word. Levering. Spam. Tyvm. There’s the difference. I’m adsing and using skill to shoot you and you’re letting rng win for you

[remote moss]

nice peeks though, i didnt know i couldnt wallbang the windows you were in or whatever

[urban steppe]

it isn't worth trying to wallbang guys with shotty buckshot anymore

unlike the past

where you could cook a dude through a wall

with a romero

[remote moss]

crown and king was perfectly wallbanging me with buckshot and it did like 10 dmg each hit

[urban steppe]

[remote moss]

actually made me laugh, but still did enough to drop me below 125

[lofty sinew]

try not to get your knickers too knotted eh. I personally want old pen back.

[urban steppe]

yeah

which sucks

[dawn mantle]

Would fanning apply to the nagant precision?

[remote moss]

yes

[visual quail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401019644938289153/1353066011506774127/IMG_0301.png?ex=68dd6c6b&is=68dc1aeb&hm=66abdfb37e7145baa59c758b6b1f6876fa321adea9fdab7fc3399cca9162ee28&

[remote moss]

fucking pouky just shit on me because he peeked me with fanning nagant every time i ran out of ammo

lol

[visual quail]

27 damage through wood 😦

4m

[remote moss]

average mosin player

[urban steppe]

wallbanging ain't worth it anymore with the current changes

its only used to disable traps behind vaults now for me

[lofty sinew]

crytek clearly thinks you have to run FMJ or spitzer if you want wallbangs to be a thing you can properly leverage

"meaningful choices" or something

[remote moss]

i still go for base compact wallbangs though. the dmg is down but its ok on semi auto when running compound walls to finish someone off

[dawn mantle]

Neat,

[urban steppe]

I saw a dude through the metal mesh window of a barn and shot my romero through the wood under it to hit the guy ont he other side

he didn't go down annnnd I wasted my single shell int he chamber

[visual quail]

I still send a shit ton of bullets through walls, but that’s because it’s one of the few kills that actually give dopamine anymore

[remote moss]

you just cant actually trust it to be lethal unless its a hs

[urban steppe]

bravo

[dawn mantle]

I don't think they used to back when I mostly played

[lofty sinew]

I spam compact FMJ at cover and I get kills with it.

[visual quail]

I dolched a guy through the floor last night. (I stole it)

Like it’s still good for finishing

But the inconsistency is super annoying.

[urban steppe]

my 100th headshot kill was getting a guy 1 floor above me through the floorboards with a vetterli hipfire

this dude was prolly pissed

[remote moss]

good thing a lot of compounds are flat so you can just aim head level depending on the wall

this is more a semi auto thing though

[visual quail]

I mean mammoths gulch, how many compounds are actually se to be penned

[remote moss]

oh fuck mammons

[lofty sinew]

Anyway, even if i don't entirely agree with the change, I can see the logic behind it. previously, you could just run standard long ammo and blast someone through two walls for nearly full damage

[remote moss]

ive gotten good at the middle compounds but they still suck for that

[hoary raptor]

do i lose my cards when i prestige?

[remote moss]

yes

[hoary raptor]

ty

[visual quail]

But it’s not easy to do. So imo it should not be nerfed.

I also don’t think any hipfire should be able to headshot

[dawn mantle]

Yall, whats a good sniper that can make followup shots? Fine with any kind of scope

[fallen meteor]

is there a cap to stamina and regen and antidote shot

[remote moss]

strongly gotta disagree with you, wallbanging was some of the easiest shit of my life back when i was doing it every day

its only hard because people arent in practice and wallbanging is hard to learn because they have to lead and some shots cant pierce through enough walls

[fallen meteor]

if everyone in my team gave me shots and i looted shots and then use the card

[remote moss]

its not very skillful by itself

[lofty sinew]

no you can stack regen and stamina to longer than the round is now if you do it right

[fallen meteor]

good

[visual quail]

🤔 disagree. You’re literally shooting blind lmao. If it’s so easy blindfold yourself and play a hunt match and lmk how long it takes you to win a match

[lofty sinew]

yeah I guess I don't entirely agree on the skill level required. to do it reliably maybe.

[remote moss]

not blind, with audio cues

rn, i wouldve shit on someone with semi auto but i didnt know the window COULDNT be wallbanged

[fallen meteor]

to do what

[visual quail]

Blindfold yourself and win a hunt match. Rn.

[remote moss]

dude

i still need my eyes to know what height to aim at

and what can be wallbanged, lol

@vernal venture yo, vouch for me here, homie

[visual quail]

Ok so you can’t see elevation through a wall, how you gonna tell if they are on a box or the floor or whatever xd

[urban steppe]

some of my wallbangs are done by tracking the muzzle flash from a window and guestimating where the dude is standing

[lofty sinew]

I don't think i've really seen anyone insist the penetration "bug" fix was an entirely positive change.

[remote moss]

the sound of the footsteps? there are some places where its bullshit because the sound of a box or seats is the same as the sound of the wood above the actual floor

yeah its bs but generally the directional audio is pretty good

[lofty sinew]

but there are aspects to the pen changes that still make sense to me.

[remote moss]

thats just map knowledge though

[urban steppe]

they basically removed most sources of explosive ammo
and reduced pen

this is supposed to somehow make the matches faster by....

[visual quail]

Idk bro you’re just significantly better than everyone if it’s that easy to wallbang lol

[remote moss]

no, i cant wallbang well anymore

[lofty sinew]

i don't think those were all done with match speed in mind at all

[remote moss]

i also had errr an audio advantage back then

if you catch my drift

[visual quail]

No I don’t actually.

[urban steppe]

wallbang damage and splash damage from explosive bullets is so astronomically low

guys can outheal it most the time

[remote moss]

headphone settings, it was good enough i could hear crouchwalkers at like 30m or wherever the limit was

[visual quail]

There’s just no way in my mind that I can say wall banging is easy

[remote moss]

the audio is good enough to wallbang by itself now though

[urban steppe]

you aren't dealing enough most the time to force them to waste a heal

[remote moss]

just not as precise

[urban steppe]

esp if they have a regen shot

[remote moss]

cant say that its that easy, but its a practiced skill thats not hard to learn?

[lofty sinew]

sure. you kinda have to get a headshot or they have to be on a whisker of health to kill with wallbangs. Clearly crytek thinks thats how it should be. I think rather than a full reversion, a middle-ground would probably be best.

[remote moss]

lack of experience is really the main limit for most wallbanging players

you dont get enough time and chances to keep practicing it in a fight

[visual quail]

So you’re saying it’s skill based now

[remote moss]

fuck

[visual quail]

🤔

[remote moss]

whatever, man, lol

[lofty sinew]

like ths weet spot is inbetween what we have now and what we had then somewhere.

[visual quail]

I’m just confused what point you’re trying to make

[remote moss]

i just wanted to say that its within reason to learn how to wallbang and that it gets obnoxious for gameplay

[urban steppe]

😿

[remote moss]

id appreciate having wallbangs back still but its not that mystical or hard by itself?

[visual quail]

Ok then I was not getting what you’re putting down. On me mb. I thought you were saying it was easy.

Which is way different then what you just said lol

[lofty sinew]

i mean 3 people running long ammo with ammo boxes previously could swiss cheese soft cover and be pretty obnoxious.

[remote moss]

i was kinda saying that it was easy because ive got a skill issue, i blame it on being drunk

lol

[visual quail]

Wot

[remote moss]

man those chinese trios genuinely made me mad

i mightve said it was too easy, like an idiot

misrepresented the thoughts in my head

due to substances that are currently being consumed

there was nothing you could do against a somewhat competent long ammo wallbanging team. you absolutely needed your teammates to do something ,the 1v3 carry potential was just dropped so fucking hard

[frigid ibex]

Drunk yapping or drunk hunting

[lofty sinew]

I mean, I don't think spitzer should get zero damage drop on first pen when nothing else does.

[remote moss]

drunk yapping

[visual quail]

It was just miscommunication is all

[remote moss]

im doing great in hunt with less stress

[lofty sinew]

remove spitzer getting no damage loss on first pen, and reduce the damage reduction for all rounds on first pen by.. some amount that makes sense, and i'd be cool with it.

[dawn mantle]

I hit this person with 3 dumdums, one a headshot, and a stick of dynamite and they lived. What the fuck

[visual quail]

Nobody survives a headshot

[lofty sinew]

well i mean, if they're still alive it wasn't a headshot eh

[dawn mantle]

They were headshot alright

[remote moss]

funny damage boost to make wallbansg good again, compact does 25 minimum through walls, medium does 50, long does 75, when hitting body

[visual quail]

Headshots always kill

[lofty sinew]

the game clearly disagrees?

[frigid ibex]

Spitzer isn't for body tags anyway. Just headshot through walls

[visual quail]

^

[dawn mantle]

Even then, 3 dumdums

[remote moss]

i thought spitzer was for angle holding the headshot on peek

[visual quail]

Damage reduction go brrt when I’m only aiming for the head

[lofty sinew]

spitzer is for weenies who can't deal with leading you mean

[frigid ibex]

Well it's more body tag friendly now than before

[dawn mantle]

91 damage per round, plus around 8 seconds of bleed

[frigid ibex]

Still not worth for body tags

[visual quail]

Maybe you hit a grunt or smthing behind them

[dawn mantle]

na, they made an injured noise each hit

[remote moss]

no doubt he was spamming 4 garden cards

[dawn mantle]

fuck he might of

Seemed completely unbothered by my shots entirely.

He didn't even try get revenge, his friend was the one that killed me

[visual quail]

My main gripe with hunt now is the last 2 nights I’ve only had 4 actually good fights. With the same ppl on the other team, every time. IMO it shouldn’t be that way where only two teams are winning majority of the fights unless they run into eachother

[frigid ibex]

Idk what you mean, from what i remember from pre 2.0 matchmaking change it was reset bar, reset bar. Get matched against the same people

Repeat

We can't pretend this never happened

[remote moss]

ive had like 20 good fights and 20 bad fights this event, bad fights cause mosin spitzer forest and im too lazy to wait with them

its a win when i play like the rat and just position well to punish people trying to push right

[vernal venture]

who the hell are ya

[remote moss]

the guy that tried to wallbang your ass while you nagant fanning me

youre supposed to tell fishy what happened, smh

[iron pilot]

Lul u got squirt gun spammed

[frigid ibex]

Rip you got fanned down

[remote moss]

its actually a damn good fanning gun cause how fast it burns, fast enough to compete vs shotguns and shit

[vernal venture]

god damm tried to 1v3

[remote moss]

yeah you did

[iron pilot]

I always call the Nagant a squirt gun bc of the sound it makes with a suppressor on fanning

[vernal venture]

still got some kills :p

[remote moss]

YEAH ON ME

freaking kd farmer

come out and fight me while i have full ammo

[frigid ibex]

It sounds like a sewing machine if you've ever heard one

Full speed

[iron pilot]

Thud bump thud bump thud bump thud bump

[remote moss]

@vernal venture oh yeah for my wallbangs, was i aiming too high while you were crouched? felt like i shouldve killed you long before you peeked

[vernal venture]

I did actually go out and peak all three of you and went back with a kill no?

[remote moss]

not sure if i could wallbang that

[remote moss]

you did, but you peeked the door once i was reloading

[dawn mantle]

just looked at the accolades, can even confirm they didn't just go down then get revived, not they shrugged off 3 dumdums, a headshot, and a stick of dynamite.

[vernal venture]

nah was playing between the doors

[remote moss]

ahhhh

nice

[vernal venture]

ye heard it

[remote moss]

curses

[dawn mantle]

Didn't even get any XP for like the 10 seperate shots I hit on hunters. fml.

[visual quail]

I’m not, I’m just going off of my experiences lately. Like I get making more people 6* for matchmaking purposes and protecting worse/casual/newer players.

But on the flip side, my games have never been easier, and the majority of fights are pretty 1 sided, hunting rats, or dealing with shotguns and spam, my main point is I miss the days where it was actual shootouts with good teams and you’re forced to sweat to win.

[frigid ibex]

Yeah that's definitely different

The downside was forgotten though. I don't miss the resetting bar, everybody is alt tabbed and forgot. Empty match

[iron pilot]

Hunting bow is slowly becoming my favorite weapon

[visual quail]

When I’m looking forward to running into 2,3,4 kda players so I know I’ll actually play a normal fight, it’s just depressing for me

[frigid ibex]

Things really sucked

[visual quail]

You are right. 100%

[iron pilot]

I wish they'd let me have a dmg penalty in exchange for movement speed

I hate how slow you have to play with bow

[visual quail]

Bow lowkey strong af

[frigid ibex]

You had the option to have two servers at least

Don't remember if it helped

[dawn mantle]

can someone remind me of the name of the double barrel shotty its slipping my mind rn

[frigid ibex]

Tbh

[visual quail]

I think that should be brought back

[visual quail]

Caldwell rival

[frigid ibex]

Yeah

[dawn mantle]

caldwell isn't showing anything lmao