hunt-general

[clear fossil]

i always go for xp only because well i prestige a bunch and it takes a really long time because i always get like a ridiculously long losing streak after i prestige

it happens every time

prestige guarantees like a 5 or 6 matches long losing strak at least

[lofty sinew]

i prestige too. i guess i prioritise in round boosts over finishing prestiges more quickly

[clear fossil]

so usually it takes me like a week to prestige once if i play a lot because i spend 3 days just to get to lvl 30 or so

im really slow mainly because i want to actually enjoy the guns once i reach lvl 100 for another day or so

[lofty sinew]

i do grab xp more frequently early prestige of course. not having access to all the useful tools and traits is kinda painful early

ah i just insta prestige, easy come easy go

binned too many hunters and guns to care anymore

[clear fossil]

i just want to use things like nitros and stuff once i know i dont need to worry about how long my 10k bank account lasts

so i dont prestige instantly because around lvl 80 i start using any guns i want and then i feel like i have used all the high end kits i want after a couple days and then prestige again

[lofty sinew]

only gun i feel compelled to use currently is the wildland and i don't get so many of those it takes long to get rid of em

last one i brought in i got to fire 1 round total.

[clear fossil]

i want a devil and a nitro

havent found a devil yet

but the moment i find a devil i will use nitro

[lofty sinew]

not even from dark tribute?

[clear fossil]

nope

[lofty sinew]

i have a handful of devils. i get rng is what it is

[clear fossil]

im having bad luck with the cards

i ger everything but devil

ive had like 3 copies of everything else

but devil i only got on the first day of event and not since then once

[lofty sinew]

when playing duo against trio i don't really use them.. being down 2 bars is rough

[clear fossil]

it is but i just use it for the fun so i never really care how the match goes then

as long as i get to shoot and hit shots

[lofty sinew]

murphys law dictates that if i bring in a wildland with the intention to devil, i die without getting to use it and am down 2 bars

[ancient cave]

I cooked and ate alligator tonight and pretended I killed and ate rotjaw for all the times she just dropped me necromancer

[clear fossil]

the greatest tragedy is when all the burn traits you find are just necro

ive sometimes found like 4 necros in a single match

like that would be a solo's paradise

[lofty sinew]

yeah necro is a default part of my loadouts, it's a bummer to find in lobby unless you happen to have burned it

[clear fossil]

necro is always part of my moadout unless i run a levering gun

[ancient cave]

necro, resil, and iron eye are my first three traits

[clear fossil]

those are mine when i run centennial

[lofty sinew]

unless i am not running a rifle which i havent been lately

necro resil bolt thrower for xbow of course. necro resil + whatever for shotgun

is rotjaw definitely an alligator and not a crocodile

[ancient cave]

she's an alligator

we gotta get people to know her gender before trying to lecture on species though

[lofty sinew]

does lore explain why she is a crocodile sized alligator?

[clear fossil]

are alligators smaller?

[whole mist]

They are

[indigo jewel]

what ammo does the homestead get

[lofty sinew]

all the shotgun ammos

[indigo jewel]

which is the best for it

[lofty sinew]

depends how you like to play i guess but i don't think you can argue anything other than buckshot is the overall best

[visual quail]

alligators are not much smaller than crocodiles actually

the suprise is that females are typically much smaller than the males

[lofty sinew]

10-15ft vs 20ft is not a trivial size difference

[whole mist]

The biggest crocs are the salt water crocodiles iirc

[visual quail]

🤔

biggest alligator ever was 19ft

biggest croc ever was 21 ft

[lofty sinew]

biggest scientifically verified 15ft

with largest ever reported crocodile approaching 30ft.

also not verified

[visual quail]

either way whatever you believe the biggest issue is rottie being a female

[lofty sinew]

i mean in a world with actual magic its a bit whatever

[visual quail]

source? i could not find any claim of this lol "just trust me bro"

[lofty sinew]

you would just assume some token lore reason for her being enormous

While a crocodile named Krys was reportedly larger, at 8.64 meters (28 feet), no verified measurements were made at the time of its capture in Australia in 1957, making Lolong the largest reliably measured specimen

[visual quail]

prehistoric crocodilians were 40ft

what even is rottie

probably 20 ft? 25?

[little frost]

hi fish

[lofty sinew]

looks at least 3x as long as a human is tall i guess

[visual quail]

do i know u

[lofty sinew]

so at least 18ft

[visual quail]

OH

hi

lol

[little frost]

bingo bingus

[visual quail]

yea

hello

[little frost]

have u used tower card in the nest

[lofty sinew]

it's dumb tower doesn't destroy eggs and only released spiders imho

[visual quail]

its killed the eggs for me

[little frost]

the hit marker sounds is satisfying

honestly just run in and yoink one from nest then pop it. Asmr

[visual quail]

post that on yt shorts

ez viral vid

[clear fossil]

this games impossible
once again a loss

[lofty sinew]

sure feels that way sometimes

[clear fossil]

like we figt 2v3 because my teams third is afk we kill 2 and then when we are 2v1 and the last enemy is pushing me as im healing from grunts the last teammate runs away and i die alone

and then the teammate returns from afk but they run to die to enemies one by one

[little frost]

lock in twin

[lofty sinew]

i do the version where i am in the appropriate place at the right time but fluff the one shot i get as my pants fall down and someone nearby repeatedly plays a slide whistle

[clear fossil]

people who afk on spawn

should be banned from matchamking with randoms

[lofty sinew]

with fullish lobbies it seems hard to avoid early fights currently

[clear fossil]

and thats why spawn afk should be forbidden in matchamaking lobbies

it happens too often that we lose only because we had 1 afk

[lofty sinew]

i have become highly adjacent spawn paranoid after the weekend

[clear fossil]

that should i think be considered griefing

if you afk at spawn

[lofty sinew]

the most annoying thing is when you're sure you hear far noises, do your due diligence, nothing happens, then you just run into them in a weird spot just past where you expect to anyway

though to be fair on sunday at least nothing was working. ambushing, being ambushed, pushing. dirt naps always

[atomic coral]

Tonight my friend got kicked back to the lobby and couldn't rejoin even after relaunching, yet the game showed him as AFK at spawn. Hunt be buggy.

[clear fossil]

yeah that should be like the one excluding thing but with randoms its like half of the games

one person stays afk for like more than a minute

and afking on spawn is just prelevant that i dont know how people do it

ive never been afk on spawn with randoms

[lofty sinew]

people take the start of matchmaking for lobby to mean a garaunteed 10 minute break sometimes

but sometimes you go in right quick

particularly early days of new events

[clear fossil]

yeah but like what do you do when you return from your break only to see that your entire teams already dead

and youre alone left ther

[indigo jewel]

how long does the devil last

[lofty sinew]

whole lobby until you die

[clear fossil]

until you are downed

[indigo jewel]

okay ty

i just found a nitro and a devil card wondering if till be any good

[lofty sinew]

probably say "oh.. woopsie. oh well. go next" and then do the same thing again I guess

[atomic coral]

I've only had it happen a few times (US servers) but when someone AFKs we decide to cautiously and quietly farm on the way to an extract.

[timber escarp]

Which pact is considered truly evil by lore

[lofty sinew]

there are no pacts currently are there

[clear fossil]

i just think that the spawn afk thing is way too prelevant and something should be done about it

[atomic coral]

Basically a spawn inactivity timer?

[clear fossil]

maybe

[desert acorn]

killed a hunter, and never knew about it till after the match

Alert trip mines are fun.

[indigo jewel]

does the nitro count as a aperture sight for steady aim?

[lofty sinew]

i generally disagree. trap gameplay adds nothing to fights being fun and just make the game worse imho.

[clear fossil]

it could probably be a kick and a 30 minute ban from matchmaking with randoms or something

[atomic coral]

Love that. Oh! Someone hit my traps!
Had one where I put a cross of alert mines and a little red barrel on a cash register.

[shrewd magnet]

no lt doesn't need steady aim

[desert acorn]

Was hoping to get the last guy with em. Missed my lemat shotty, then got stabbed.

[clear fossil]

if youre afk, just enough to make people want to avoid the possibility but not actually bad enough that it would penalize people who got something urgent

[lofty sinew]

i can't see crytek doing anything this harsh unfortunately even if it would make sense

[atomic coral]

I haven't been able to tell the one time I tested.

[atomic coral]

Just make them lose the hunter

[clear fossil]

because if its something urgent that cant wait a 30 minute match to be done first its propably something that would take more than 30 minutes

so the penalty would only affect those who actually have the time but just arent there paying attention

[desert acorn]

maybe a fly that buzzes around, and comes to light on the afk or camper. Just makes a little noise

[clear fossil]

like dont even games like cs go and rainbow six siege and all competitive shooters have this

what makes hunt different

[desert acorn]

Hunt is simply a better game. 🙂

[clear fossil]

theres a reason those games implemented a afk timer

[shrewd magnet]

afk timer hmmm interesting

[desert acorn]

Cause they coddle thir players.

[timid yacht]

can anyone tell me why my hunt wont start up all the time, it black screens and makes my whole pc lag

[desert acorn]

them boys wouldn't last in the bayou

[clear fossil]

now both of my teammates are afk

and i already hear a chicked coop

[desert acorn]

How long has it been?

[timber escarp]

What's one negative y'all can say about the game

[lofty sinew]

that does happen a lot with randos admittedly. i rarely play randos anymore but having at least one still standing at spawn a few minutes into lobby feels pretty normal

[clear fossil]

it was a minute

[dusky spoke]

Can only suggest to stop playing randos, drift the discord lfg until you find your people

[clear fossil]

now its been 3 and one is still afk

[lofty sinew]

game can be brutal and unforgiving and unfortunately rewards some pretty obnoxious playstyles

[clear fossil]

and the last one is back

took them little over 3 minutes

[desert acorn]

Ever win a fire fight clearly, then lose anyway cause rng?

[shrewd magnet]

yea black screen is annoying dealing with...

[timber escarp]

So high risk high reward not for casual players

[lofty sinew]

it is pretty casual

there is no real barrier for entry and no requirement to grind to be involved at the highest tiers

[timber escarp]

Is there a tutorial or no

[timid yacht]

the game runs flawless for me but i just cant get it to open all the time, i also had a weird issue with a heap corruption error. this is the only game i have an issue like this with

[lofty sinew]

yes but idk what it looks like these days

[timber escarp]

I did a deadlands RPG using Louisiana bayou as a location but we changed few aspects so we weren't coping hunt showdown

[desert acorn]

black screen happens to me after a gpu update, or a boot of the pc. only ever on the first boot, though.

[lofty sinew]

a driver update will cause a shader recompile which is computationally heavy and will potentially take a while depending on your hardware

shouldn't be every boot though

[granite blade]

heap corruption i believe is due to gpu overclock settings, i got this as well when i was working on overclocking my gpu

[south shore]

Yes, you can replay it at any time

[desert acorn]

I run into cheaters in clash, sometimes.

[red light]

I love being killed 3 seconds into a lobby across the map by a guy I've reported for the last month.

[desert acorn]

Does Crytech have some way to get rid of cheaters?

[lofty sinew]

a month of cross mapping people rage hacking is kind of wild

[desert acorn]

They should simply crush them.

[lofty sinew]

the same way all devs have yes, they ban them. those people tend to just buy cheap new stolen accounts or whatever though

[red light]

its every event with this and the same "clan" that does it.

[stone basin]

I love getting randoms that see a fight and immediately leave their team to die so fun

[lofty sinew]

are you reporting with clip via website or just in game?

[whole mist]

i have an idea who you're talking about

[lofty sinew]

they sound a bit scummy whoever they are

[red light]

im between graves and the other compound when this happened again

[desert acorn]

UI fixes are fire

[red light]

its KING

[timber escarp]

Does the game explain who the Empress is in the Empress of the web event

[red light]

i've given up on the website and i dont record my games.

[remote moss]

pretty hard to tell since its just a regular spawnfight death with just the pic

really just report and next game

[lofty sinew]

fair enough. from what i have heard, submitting a clip via website is typically acted on fairly quickly.

[red light]

im in graves in that pic across the map 400m away.

[granite blade]

show damage log?

[remote moss]

ahhh

well that sucks

might try prefiring that spot to see if i tag someone

[whole mist]

Can't discuss specific names in here, but ik the devs are aware. They constantly make new accounts

[lofty sinew]

typical of serial cheaters

[red light]

I'm in another game so idk if i can still look at my last match results.

[remote moss]

its kinda cute

[lofty sinew]

there are discords where bulk stolen accounts are sold for the purpose

[unique trail]

How are yall liking the event so far

[lofty sinew]

I think it's pretty great overall really

[red light]

i like the ui change

[lofty sinew]

my performance in the game recently not withstanding

[whole mist]

Im really liking it

[remote moss]

i kind of want hanged man to stay in the game

[lofty sinew]

it's probably the best event i can recall playing anyway

[clear fossil]

ive now officially gone under 3000 hunt dollars
in the last like 10+ games or so ive won maybe 2 matches, 1 of them we got a bounty without a fight and left and in only one ive won with getting the boss and winning a fight for the boss

and this is right after prestige

[lofty sinew]

i assume tarot cards will just get some new cards added and some existing cards reworked for new events

[clear fossil]

so 1 good match for 10 losses is about the current ratio

[whole mist]

i've gone to zero before

[red light]

idk Ill always have a soft spot for that very first christmas event. it was just simple fun in alot of ways the newer ones havent captured for me.

[lofty sinew]

i prestiged on saturday and sunday night i had 297 hunt bux i think

[remote moss]

magician needs a complete change to really be useful, decoy doesnt do much in darksight except make us hard focus to double check if its a rat standing still or not

[gray pike]

new invis perk
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094344841648951378/1422074084984098877/Hunt-_Showdown_1896_-_2025-09-29_12-13-30_AM.mp4?ex=68db5932&is=68da07b2&hm=beef2d53357b60a853727f2500a9025b35aea64002643144f3c02e05da8368ef&

[clear fossil]

this is just annoying just now again i killed 2 guys but then my team died to one guy, and then i died to them as well not much i can do

other than say at least i didnt play bad

[timber escarp]

I haven't played since rotjaw was introduced

[clear fossil]

i even hit the guy i died to but it wasnt just enough they were full hp

[lofty sinew]

idk it really seems like it moves quite a lot relative to where it is placed if you move around

[remote moss]

nice angle, light shows that he was right past the wall, really weird angle

[clear fossil]

my mmr fell from 4 to 3 and what ever else on this loss streak

[red light]

i took a break when they revamped the game into 1896 but playing ye old hunt was wild

[remote moss]

thats just hunt, chill out a bit once you start to stress

[clear fossil]

i just wonder does the game give me any help on the side after this long of a loss streak?

[remote moss]

meh, i dont use it enough

[red light]

i remeber when different tier hunters came with different amounts of health

[lofty sinew]

on the upside it eventually means some cushy lobbies I guess. even if slapping lobbies well below your actual skill level doesn't really feel all that great

[remote moss]

ah yes, the mosin one tap days back when everyone sucked

[clear fossil]

yeah like these 3 stars are pretty bad im used to fighting 5*
but playing with randoms makes it just a little painful

mainly because i could play well and die because of no backup

[mild flower]

What if you could place it at a distance away from you

[red light]

avto + mosin days, dolch regular ammo. I kinda miss it. I dont miss how dark it was though lol

it was the only time i've ever had to use the flashlight

[clear fossil]

at leasy my kit only costs like 500 hunt dollars + the hunter

so 600 ish so i can at least with like 2k still play a few matches

[remote moss]

i mean, it can bait a peek if you place it outside of a compound and you shoot at a counter angle, but i dunno

[mild flower]

Or trick enemies into rotating to bad positions because they think they're exposed at an angle they're really not

[gray pike]

ya he was behind my gun, and night map, and just looking for darker pixels on dark background. This was like my 5th night map out of 10 games. Eye fatigue

[lofty sinew]

i'm gonna be on free hunters for a bit on my next sesh ~_~

[remote moss]

maybe

[clear fossil]

well more than a few with all thins considered i could probably play for like 6 or 7 losses still

[remote moss]

but they still have darksight to spot all 3 of you, decoy just obscures your movement a bit

but audio cues just make it neglible

[clear fossil]

i just salvage the equipment from free hunters like med kits, knifes, stims and dynamites

to bring the kit ever so cheaper

[lofty sinew]

i don't like having to be that proactively cheap i'll admit. i'm lazy

[granite blade]

ah yea, going from night to day back to back multiple times really wears my eyes out

[clear fossil]

well it makes 2500 hunt dollars last a quite a while longer if i save 200 or so hunt dollars per match

[lofty sinew]

oh i'm not arguing it's not worth doing if you're skint

i'm just saying i hate having to care about money that much :I

[clear fossil]

same

the one reason i hate money on games like this,

like the money sources are so plentiful

but i dont have scavenger

so im shit out of luck

until i unlock it

like scavenger should be nerfed and money making from other sources buffed

[lofty sinew]

you don't have to win all that much to not end up in poverty. but sometimes the lose streaks just take you there

[clear fossil]

i dont want to have to count my money right after prestige because of a loss streak

yeah like

sometimes 2 wins

after a prestige

is all that it takes for you to get that lvl 24 to scavenger

and that means you get free money now

[lofty sinew]

i was on ~8k start of sunday sesh and my current loadout is maybe 600. so much dieing.

[clear fossil]

but now ive played like probably 15 games and om only lvl 25

actually i got savenger open just last match

or right now

last match those couple kills i got were enough to lvl me up

if i survive that is

i can now make money just for surviving

now the next perk i want is vigilant

with this rival slugs loadout i usually go for necro vulture resilience and vigilant

[lofty sinew]

i have to start bringing vigilant again, and getting into the habit of scanning on the regular

lobbies are trap central lately

[clear fossil]

yeah

saves me a lot to see traps

im so used to having it that i keep doing it even tho im under lvl 36 when you get it

and i wonder why it doesnt high light a trap i can literally see

i could also level with free hunters in the clash i quess

and make some money with scavenger but i dont have the energy for that

[lofty sinew]

clash gives like zero cash unless you win

[clear fossil]

yeah

[lofty sinew]

better off going for a PvE / register run in bounty

[clear fossil]

but free romero there is actually good

[clear fossil]

too boring

[lofty sinew]

i mean i never do it

[clear fossil]

id rather just go free hunter romero

to clash

yeah

ive done that once

and it was so boring i never repeated it

[lofty sinew]

I just run free hunters until the lose streak ends

[stone basin]

Today was awful not one kill at all and just so many deaths and so many games where no one shows up

[lofty sinew]

the bayou taketh

[clear fossil]

my kd actually went down i was at 1.33 and it fell to 1.32

this entire loss streak and it finally fell

somehow i kept the same kd even tho i have lost so many games

[lofty sinew]

my current prestige approach will definitely make mine fall. i am finding it painful AF and internally justifying running a 2 x 2 loadout just so i don't have to suffer quite as much

[clear fossil]

well the kd really doesnt matter at all neither does your mmr

i just want to keep it up and tidy

[lofty sinew]

no i don't care about either

[clear fossil]

and make fun of my friend whose is never moving up or down... i quess hes at least consistent

[lofty sinew]

what i do care about is playing poorly and i am trying to get better at an aspect of the game i am bad at

so it really increases the pain level

[clear fossil]

i only hate it when i sometimes get the matches where i whiff like 4 shots with a slug shotgun and then sometimes like the last match i get 2 kills in 2 shots... my performance is so unpredictable its ridiculous

[lofty sinew]

i think thats pretty normal really

[dusky spoke]

Its better to lose a bunch getting better at the game then just committing to the one thing that works for you, your mmr will climb and you will become forced to only play that way because its the only thing you're good at

[lofty sinew]

even rachta can whiff 6 shots in a row

[lofty sinew]

that is more or less the logic. i don't always want to play CQC just because. but I do want my CQC game to get better because it's the worst aspect of my play

and i hate not being able to confidently play pro-actively

vs the snore stalemates that happen fairly regularly

[dusky spoke]

Flicking in cqc is hard and theres no fast way to get good at it

[lofty sinew]

it's not so much that and more I have real trouble keeping a mental picture of compound layouts / potential peeks / movement options and trusting audio info in those situations

[dusky spoke]

Trusting audio info has been getting me killed half the time in compounds lately

idk wtf they've done lol

[turbid dock]

Bomb lance steel ball or harpoon time

Peak close range weapon

[lofty sinew]

oh i've been sure someone is just outside the door but because of my general distrust i'm not sure enough to actually use the info in a timely fashion cos i assume it's actually someone downstairs or whatever

i'm just playing shotgun because i can't use it to play in my preferred range

[remote moss]

for cqc, id recommend always waiting until you get audio info on all 3 players

[dusky spoke]

Theres no advice to give and people will try and sit and tell what to do and what not to do, but its all just learned behaviour, the closest thing to help you can get is actively playing with people experienced in what you feel you lack and just kinda going with the flow

[remote moss]

i never push without info, need to poke and prod at them while your teammates contest from somewhere then break your way into a flank that they cant properly rotate into. thats the "best" cqc thing you can do

[turbid dock]

Good tip

[jolly parcel]

best cqc is a mosin shot to the head

[lofty sinew]

that is what i am doing more or less. my usual partner is much better at cqc than me. it's a logic you have to internalise your own version of though, no amount of someone trying to articulate theirs equates directly to getting better at it

[remote moss]

uhhh oh yeah, try to movement if youre expecting a shotgun. your goal isnt to get a kill, but to get in, then hold a good angle. if youre trying to push, you need to shoulder peek, jump peek, everything around corners to bait the shotgun instead of dying or trading

[remote moss]

smh, this is great advice

all applicable

[remote moss]

basically just bait a miss with movement spam then you try to kill them before the cycle time on their gun is up. its different vs crown and king but ehhh, same idea

[dusky spoke]

Not being able to do this is another reason I've always hated explosive crossbow, so glad its scarce now

[remote moss]

yeah getting fucking tagged by some bitch you cant even see is shit

[dusky spoke]

it being in the fight just lowers the skill ceiling for everyone involved and it just becomes a game of how shit is the guy with the crossbow

[remote moss]

lets see, need an anime reference here

domain expansion, infinite corner running with explo spam

[lofty sinew]

our explo xbow guys general fps skill level isn't great. it was a very straight forward leg up for him.

[remote moss]

if he really wants to get good, its bomb lance with the frag bolt. just as strong as frag bow but a higher investment and reload isnt as spammy

[lofty sinew]

he doesn't really want to get good

he wants to play games with his friends

[smoky karma]

Should I get shadow hunt? Is it any good

[remote moss]

well, its viable even if he doesnt, thats what i mean

[lofty sinew]

oh sure. there are ways, and he'll live

i just think he was the only kind of player it was ever justifiable for

[remote moss]

the shadow perk? yeah bypassing ai is nice

[dusky spoke]

Yep, and then you have the 8k hour 3kd+ people running it with multiple ammo boxes and you basically become limited to just staying out of range of it whilst also avoiding his other sweaty teammates, not a fun fight

[remote moss]

i only ever saw explo crossbow by those sweats after they lost too many rounds even with mosin spitzer

certain streamers i cant name because thatd be mean

lol

its nice nitro takes even more aim, they cant crutch swap to nitro either

[lofty sinew]

yeah i mean. unfortunately it's hard to make a thing that gives lower skill players a leg up without leaving it open to being abused by players who shouldn't need to use it.

[remote moss]

go ahead, use dolch precision, i already know their aim is shit and theyll still lose gunfights with it

[remote moss]

yeah

i mean, its still usable, bomb launcher and bomb lance still exist

but its much more reasonable

[dusky spoke]

this is exactly what I feel dual wield is

if you have a good aim, you are nerfing yourself, if your aim is awful, you're rolling the dice and sometimes you'll get that headshot

[turbid dock]

Every now and then i remember that crytek made bolt thrower work with bomb lance and launcher, and i get reminded that they do in fact make good decisions

[remote moss]

ammo nerfs killed our poor dualies though

[lofty sinew]

the same guy also runs dualies a fair bit. but it's game sense and reaction time that get him killed mostly

[remote moss]

i really really liked conversion fmj dualies, it was total bullshit fun

[turbid dock]

Bornheim extended dualies with the Devil was crazy good btw

[remote moss]

you monster

never utter bornheims name again

[visual quail]

@remote moss wya

hunting you down rn

[remote moss]

you bitch, ill get on in a sec

[turbid dock]

Goatheim exgoated dualies

[dusky spoke]

I hate dual wield, feel so cheated when I'm tracking someone dead center of my crosshairs but my bullets are just drawing a sillouhette around my target

[remote moss]

thats how it goes, need to range it properly like levering

[lofty sinew]

i ran bornie for a bit for challenges. it's pretty strong with that fire rate and aim punch. it's funny pushing a nitro shredder and realising they didn't even get a chance to aim at you properly

[visual quail]

bro so sweaty he dodge rolls shower drops 🗣️

[turbid dock]

It seems like the devil affects dual wield ADS, do what you want with this information

[remote moss]

youre lucky im not in my bomb lance mode

id totally fuck you up with the frag spam

[dusky spoke]

I'm just spamming springfield dum dum and crossbow shotbolt

[visual quail]

come and get it

[remote moss]

you may not like it, but this is peak semi auto meta

two magdumps

you aint surviving if you aint far away or deep in cover

[visual quail]

womp womp

shame that all it takes is one bullet

[remote moss]

you wish, my walls, through the use of audio cues, mean ill always tag you first

[dusky spoke]

my man

[visual quail]

LO

FAX on FAX

[dusky spoke]

I too am Born to Heim

[remote moss]

born the heim

[visual quail]

whos up mosining their nagant

[turbid dock]

Very respectable

I'm a life long bow enthusiast but I've been trying the crossbow a bit lately

It's nice

[dusky spoke]

Long range shotbolt kills are so satisfying

[lofty sinew]

i have a lot of love for the xbow after my last prestige only using it

[remote moss]

i got fucking DC'd, lmao

[turbid dock]

What is this shit, like 10 shots? Pathetic

[remote moss]

us e servers dont want me to hunt you down

server died, new one time

[visual quail]

gg

[remote moss]

ok mosin spitzer

i dont see a dolch p which means youre not sweaty enough

[turbid dock]

A single pair of dual bornheim extendeds can shoot 18 shots, grab two pairs and you have 36 shots of live, uncensored semi-auto action

[remote moss]

respesctable

[remote moss]

youre so lucky youre protected by hunt mods

extended slow reload, aint no constant magdumping every 5 seconds

very useful, but sustainability falls short

[turbid dock]

If you need to reload you've failed

You have 36 shots, make them count

[remote moss]

denied

ill never give in to extended, it butchers the whole magdumping point of the regular bornheim

[turbid dock]

Lmao

[fathom sonnet]

Lmao gonna be another wasted fucking battlepass with these crap servers

😂😂😂

[dusky spoke]

https://medal.tv/games/hunt-showdown/clips/kwLiEBO4gCPgMR765?invite=cr-MSxEZEwsMjQ1OTM3NjMw&v=199

you'll like this

[whole mist]

Womp womp lost death cheat after extracting

[golden wave]

US East server problems?

[whole mist]

A little bit yea

[golden wave]

both me and my duo got this at the end of a game lmao

[stiff scroll]

great servers crytek

[lofty sinew]

why is discords media player aspect so bad so often

[stiff scroll]

small indie company

[golden wave]

i tihnk it THANKFULLY uato extracted us which is cool

[potent shoal]

servers dying for anyone else??!?!?!?!1!?!/1/111

[stiff scroll]

servers dying, fix them or you are next

ugh

rawr xD

[pseudo marsh]

just checked, servers are perfect and you're the problem boys

[potent shoal]

dont come to the bayou tomorrow

im streaming on facebook live and my two viwers are fucking peeved

[clear fossil]

oki finally

the first good match of the prestige, where we killed the boss and got the bounties
and where i actually contributed

the last and the only match where we properly won the match i was just there to necromancer someone

[potent shoal]

nebula the servers are dying how are you playing

[lofty sinew]

the game doesn't die globally just because a region is shitting the bed

[clear fossil]

and this was the first match where i actually contributed and actually won the game for my team

[potent shoal]

then why does it say on the news hunt showdown down for the entire world

[stiff scroll]

crytek is Amber Heard confirmed?

[remote moss]

cant even watch it rn cause disc is fucky, lol

[clear fossil]

we are 3v2 and my teammate is away from me healing and im getting pushed by all 3
i have rival with 2 shots

i shoot twice and kill the 2 enemies

[lofty sinew]

i just wached in browser, discord just wouldn't

[clear fossil]

and the third hesitates giving my team time to revive our friend and to reload and heal

[stiff scroll]

thanks for narrating your entire match

[remote moss]

most hunt players lose cause theyre too passive, yes

in my match, i died because my teammates didnt react to me killing 1 of them and the other two are stuck in shit positions

[clear fossil]

im just exited because this was the first good match of the prestige ive had

[remote moss]

then my crown and king guy is hiding in a shed now, left our teammate to die, lol

[lofty sinew]

i find it easy enough to die being active tbh

[clear fossil]

and ive been here just complaining about it so now i want to also talk about the first good match

and talk about some of the W's

[lofty sinew]

yeah look relative to the scintillating convo here i'm not sure why it would bother anyway

[clear fossil]

also the homestead buckshot spread is so ridiculous

i also tried to flechette on homestead

unfortunately even flechette doesnt save me in a 2v3

[lofty sinew]

it's the same as romero iirc?

[clear fossil]

yeah

so like ridiculously small

[lofty sinew]

right. and thats bad?

[clear fossil]

no?

[lofty sinew]

or is it good

[clear fossil]

ridiculous can be used as a good adjective? same as terrific can be good

[lofty sinew]

yes you are right i am not sure why i thought you meant bad.

granted i have failed to kill anyone with homesteads amazing 2 tap when i have tried it at range

but i probably just mostly whiffed the shots

[clear fossil]

i used the flechette in a 1v3
and well i dealt 120 dmg to 2 different enemies

it seems good just

not ridiculous enough to pull of some memes slugs can pull off

[lofty sinew]

meh slugs

just use a rifle

if amazing 2 tap range is something you want

[clear fossil]

drilling would do the same for most things yeah

but i like the rival because it gives me with slugs capability to 1 shot thorax and capability to 2 tap at range

[lofty sinew]

for me slugs just encourages using a shotgun when you probably shouldn't be and makes them less reliable in situations where you should use them

[clear fossil]

entirely preference

usually when i use shotguns i opt for buck

but for rival the 1tap range is so short

and it actually having so fast cycle time

makes for really funny moments

like just last game where i down 2 enemies within a second

[lofty sinew]

with rival you are relying on the 2 tap if you're not barrel stuffing i guess

[peak mural]

Yeah TBH even though it isn't the best shotgun I really only use the Romero bc it FEELS like the best

[mild flower]

what about shooting through tight angles? forgive me if i've already discussed that with you. i think ive brought it up a couple times

[peak mural]

As in its the only shotgun thats range isn't SLIGHTLY lower than it feels like it should be

Not as in should be from a balance perspective, but from a perspective of the buckshot one-shots for most shotguns feeling pretty awkward.

[mild flower]

all the shotgun ranges feel slightly higher than it feels like they should be for me lol

[lofty sinew]

idk. i'm not saying slugs have no use case i guess. just that i don't feel like they're worth the downside mostly

[mild flower]

for the average/meta playstyle currently, definetely not

but in a more tight angle focused meta i can see them getting use

[peak mural]

What is the downside of slugs? Less consistent hipfire?

[remote moss]

i mean, its mostly to punish rifles for thinking they could beat your slug two tap

[remote moss]

no aimpunch

and less ammo

[mild flower]

special ammo, ammo capacity, less consistent hipfire, no aimpunch

[lofty sinew]

less consistant 1tap

[remote moss]

i dunno about less consistent

[lofty sinew]

if you hit an arm they just don't seem to go down. shrug

[mild flower]

it's more consistent if you aim right

[peak mural]

I've been using the new shotgun and slugs feel kinda useless on it

[mild flower]

but hipfire def worse

[peak mural]

Its buckshot one-shot range is already UNGODLY

[mild flower]

yeah slugs definetely aren't the way with homestead.

[remote moss]

i dont actually know what homestead slug one tap range is

[short halo]

I mean, its the Romero 1hk range

[visual quail]

no its not

its only 13m

its wack af

[remote moss]

its 20m two tap range

therefore, its a rifle within 20m

[lofty sinew]

it's stats are all identical to the romero so why would it be different

[visual quail]

14m 149 damage

[remote moss]

with the potential to shotgun

[visual quail]

idk bro go into shooting range and test it

[lofty sinew]

did they give it a different spread pattern?

[visual quail]

im right

[remote moss]

youre always right

[visual quail]

its slug range is lower than romero

[visual quail]

ty ❤️

[mild flower]

no im always right read the name

[lofty sinew]

I don't care about slugs. the only time i ever use them is for clash, with a free romero, and only because i can have 2 ammo types.

[turbid dock]

What is the slug ohk range of romero?

[mild flower]

however far you can hit the enemy

[lofty sinew]

not to head i think it presumed when talking about range

[turbid dock]

I will you

[mild flower]

MODSSSSSS

[regal lion]

are the servers dying again?

[turbid dock]

With slugs

[lofty sinew]

sounds like some are. NAE mostly maybe

[regal lion]

Yeah NAE is bad, two games in a row with teleporting and disconnecting...I was trying to get a buddy into the game too.

[lofty sinew]

fwiw it doesn't necessarily mean an issue with cryteks software. sometimes it's a localised network issue for the server provider. not that that matters to the player much

but that is why some regions have issues while others don't

[mild flower]

irrelevant but what are 1865's ammo types again

[regal lion]

I dunno mang, only issues that I have are usually just with hunt 🤷‍♂️

oh well GGs

[lofty sinew]

well, nobody knows, in business partnerships both sides are typically reluctant to throw each other under the bus.

publicly at least.

NAE does seem to have had recurring issues since the start of the event anyway. maybe also just before? i don't remember

[remote moss]

at least since start of event

todays na teams are very

well

the type of player that thinks theyre good with 2-3KD by hiding in a forest

on the other team and my team as well

they even give a shit callout, "ooooh theyr eon yth tel left, hide in this bush with me while i camp with officer carbine"

lol

aint no one there btw, guy just doesnt know how to darksight

other teammate crouchwalks in the open while they have bounty

zero reaction to being shot at

@visual quail i shouldve just rested, you did this to me

[steep cairn]

The only hunters that step into my traps are my own teammates.

[visual quail]

and you havent even ran into us yet

[remote moss]

screw you, i rq

next time though

[remote moss]

thats why you deathtrap the bushes in the middle of nowhere

[visual quail]

ggez

[remote moss]

always effective

beat me without even fighting me

[steep cairn]

Does it even say in after team stats if you got someone with bush traps?
Nice idea btw.

[remote moss]

if its before you extract, i think it should

[steep cairn]

An idea. Thanks.

[remote moss]

best deathtraps are the ones in vaultables like at double clue compounds in the middle

you bet on a team coming in late cause theyre slow or whatever

[steep cairn]

vaultables ofc.. which makes sense, i would put traps there as a trapper in dbd..
why didn't i carry on the logic here

but yeah would be nice if i didn't only kill my teammates and look awkwardly after

~

Thanks for the tips~

[drowsy wagon]

are there new weapons?

[mild flower]

yes

[drowsy wagon]

which ones? apparently I missed it lol

[mild flower]

they're scarce, so they can't be bought and can only be found in the event compound.

They are:

The homestead, a double barrel romero

and the Wildland, a centennial on steroids and probably a lot of other things

[drowsy wagon]

sweet. havent seen them yet. 6 points to unlock?

[mild flower]

3 points, only one in each match and picks between them randomly, so if you want one you better get there fast

[remote moss]

ye

[drowsy wagon]

Iv'e been there multiple times first, havent noticed them.. Where do they spawn?

thanks for the info btw.

[mild flower]

usually near the destiny dial/boons area for me, but not sure if that's an actual pattern. they don't spawn unboxed, there's a box leaning on one of the walls with them in. you spend 3 event points to open it

[drowsy wagon]

just probably overlooked it, thanks again!

[mild flower]

no problem, good luck

[drowsy wagon]

yep. need alot of luck right now for some reason 😄

having a rough go this update

[urban steppe]

when we getting this skin for the silenced nagant

[lofty sinew]

the lair area is pretty fraught, be careful on approach and never assume you were first there or there is nobody nearby..

spud gun skin?

[urban steppe]

the insidious hunter with shadow hiding in the lair

spiders do enough damage to leave you in the 1 tap range of most guns + the place is shotgun camper heaven

[turbid dock]

Uuuh fmj, high vel, and subsonic i think

I don't use any of them

Maybe fmj occasionally

[lofty sinew]

i wonder about the person who would run high velo in an 1865 carbine

[turbid dock]

Yeah its freaky stuff

[lofty sinew]

are you sure it's an option

[urban steppe]

1865 carbine has high velo???

[turbid dock]

Yeah

[urban steppe]

I don't think so

[lofty sinew]

it sounds like putting wheels on a snail

[turbid dock]

It does

[urban steppe]

does it

huh

[urban steppe]

Exactly, I've never seen a single person use it

[lofty sinew]

my head canon is it only has FMJ and normal for some reason

[turbid dock]

No wait am i tripping

Fuck I'm thinking of the martini

[urban steppe]

it does not

yeah

cause I was gonna say

I've never seen it ingame

[turbid dock]

Bro for future reference

The LLMs don't know shit about hunt lmao

They're wrong most of the time

[lofty sinew]

it would put it solidly in "why the hell aren't you just using a vetterli" territory damage and fire rate and velocity wise

[urban steppe]

yeah but I was too lazy to boot up hunt to check

hhehehe

[urban steppe]

martini high velo felt that

[turbid dock]

huntshowdown.wiki.gg the goat

[whole furnace]

https://huntshowdown.wiki.gg/
Site is constantly updated with the lastest patch and changes :)

• all have a patch history for every weapon

[turbid dock]

Yeah anyways the martini suffers this exact issue hah

Why yes i want an ammo type that compromises the main selling point of my gun

[whole furnace]

Also HV Henry didn't make the weapon any more viable .

[urban steppe]

made all the worse by the fact its a single shot without that trait + would shoot slower when compared to other medium ammo guns that have the same/higher muzzle velo and faster rof + similar damage

[urban steppe]

if anything, it made it worse

[turbid dock]

The martini hasn't been a single shot weapon since the ironside released

[urban steppe]

you have sparks muzzle velo without sparks damage

[desert acorn]

That random head shot at 50m with a bornheim match...

peaking, blind through a window.

[turbid dock]

One thing i haven't tried yet is the 1865 silenced with subsonic

It sounds like an awful experience

[urban steppe]

you are better off using the quad derringer

I haven't played with a single person who has used the 1865 well

let alone the silenced var

that weapon is complete CHEEKS

it just exists

[lofty sinew]

i mean it's kind of a close range sparks

[urban steppe]

just use the vetterli at that point

[mild flower]

huh i feel like it would be cool if it had poison or fire 😈

[turbid dock]

Like, sure, the velo is low, but the damage is great, so you use it in close to medium range, that's the point of the 1865

But... At those ranges they can just hear your silenced shots anyways, so what's the benefit? Not getting third partied?

[lofty sinew]

eh 145 puts people within chip damage death vetterli doesn't really

[urban steppe]

exactly

[mild flower]

pve

[lofty sinew]

it's the wrong gun for pve too

[urban steppe]

if you manage to hit torsos sure
with that muzzle velo
you'd be lucky

[clear fossil]

1865 subsonic is one of those meme guns where ive seen clips of people walking into the bullets

because even at a medium distance it might literally take a half a second to travel

[mild flower]

one shots dogs and hives to the body doesnt it?

[turbid dock]

Hmm maybe, but do i compromise the damage of my 145 dmg fuckoff cannon for pve or just grab a silenced pistol? 🤔

[whole furnace]

For 70 HD you can now have a weapon that:
Has less damage than a Sparks (149 > 136)
Has less MV than a Sparks (530m/s > 500m/s)
Has worse bullet drop than a Sparks (145m > 140m)
Has less bullets than a sparks (17 > 15)
But cost 62HD more than a Sparks (130 < 192)
I guess the selling point is the faster reload, but eeeeeeh.

[urban steppe]

marginally faster reload

[lofty sinew]

so does incend in anything.. or poison in anything

well, not so much poison on hives but still

[clear fossil]

martini looks the best single shot.. .wel with the springfield

[whole furnace]

Don't get me wrong I love the Henry, but like.. not a good gun in this current meta.

[urban steppe]

incend 1 taps to any part of the body

[turbid dock]

Hitting an immolator with incendiary ammo should cause a 20 kiloton explosion

[clear fossil]

explosive henry is a meme

that annoys me

[urban steppe]

the real usage of the martini henry now is explosive bullet spam

its the 1 explosive ammo ingame that can deal 25 splash

[clear fossil]

but mako is better at that as well

[whole furnace]

Why not use a springy then?

[clear fossil]

so much that every uses mako now

why

why everyone using mako explosive

[turbid dock]

Probably because levering it is hilarious

[urban steppe]

1. springy has less splash damage
   = you can't force guys to waste heals to escape the 1 tap range

2. martini family has the better weapon attachments

[urban steppe]

it isn't

[clear fossil]

it isnt?

[urban steppe]

the mako bullets deal less than the martini
same applies for explosive

= you have a harder time dealing enough splash damage to make people waste medkits on heals so they don't get 1 tapped by a followup direct hit

the one gimmick the explosive martini has is that it deals enough to take out 25 hp from splash alone

making a followup shot lethal

this is the only reason you'd run the martini imo

[lofty sinew]

i have been seeing a lot of the mako

even mako explo weirdly

[urban steppe]

same

[whole furnace]

I usually just bring it on springy compact and then I have ruled there will be no doors or windows in my compound fight

[lofty sinew]

apparently everyone was just waiting for a minor buff so they could run their favourite gun again

[urban steppe]

explosive mako vs martini henry

the only advantage the explosive mako has is muzzle velo

[whole furnace]

Dunno why people are talking like having good an viable explosive ammo is good for the meta lol

[urban steppe]

you are going to have a much easier time downing someone with a 138 dmg bullet to the torso after splashing them

vs 127 to the torso

esp if they have bulwark

to resist the splash

[lofty sinew]

i mean the fire rate is the reason right

you can lever 4 mako shots in the time it takes to do 2 martini

[urban steppe]

yeah but that implies you are in range for those to land

realistically, you are going to be adsing those hits

you'd be needing 3 mako shots to kill
2 for splash and 1 for a torso hit in most cases

if the splash isn't enough

you'd need to be doing 23 damage through splash damage
in a game where bulwark exists to kill

[lofty sinew]

are you? i always encounter explo being used in closer range and never trying to contest rifle fights

[urban steppe]

vs 12

which is easier to accomplish

[urban steppe]

I try not to push into cqc now since crackshot is back ingame

one way ticket to be vaporized by rng spam

[lofty sinew]

i've encountered levered wildland once and no other occassion i can really put down to being the fault of the devil myself

[urban steppe]

that and the fact levering wildland exists

yeah

do not push into cqc this event

you are going to be perforated

[lofty sinew]

i'm saying i don't feel like devil use feels that prevalent tbh

[whole furnace]

That have been my MO since the start of this year lol

[clear fossil]

like my friends got a mako kill with just hitting the ground around the enemy

[urban steppe]

it doesn't matter
devil or not with the wildland

it has the best levering accuracy ingame
better than ranger

[clear fossil]

and i actually died earlier because my friend was shot by explo mako while i was healing next to them behind a hard cover

[lofty sinew]

you're kinda better off aiming for feet than head with explo anyway aren't you

[urban steppe]

its a medium ammo gun that can out perform the base winnie in cqc any day

[whole furnace]

Also:
Increase Mako ammo slightly and reduce Berth ammo slightly.

[clear fossil]

what did they change for mako

[lofty sinew]

less recoil

less levered spread also maybe?

[whole furnace]

Better recoil and some smoothing of animations

[whole furnace]

Naw only recoil got hit

[clear fossil]

its recoil was never bad imo

[lofty sinew]

i think for levering it was a bit on the rough side

[urban steppe]

I try to hit center mass
esp when I play explosive martini
since I just need to deal 12 splash damage for a lethal followup torso hit

[whole furnace]

One of the highest for long rifles

[clear fossil]

well i used to lever mako and pretty consistently even pulled of wallbang kills with fmj and stuff

[urban steppe]

the gimmick for explosive long ammo imo has always been the fact you only need to land 1 good chest hit

and the rest can be splash dmg

[lofty sinew]

wallbangs don't have much to do with accuracy or recoil do they

[whole furnace]

Actually Mako had the highest recoil of all the long ammo rifles

[clear fossil]

no but it was just point that i did well with it in general and the levering has slow fire rate so recoil wasnt a problem

at least for me

idk what others think

[urban steppe]

yeah
so levering it was just a downgrade considering you just increased your hipfire bloom for the worst levering ingame

[lofty sinew]

if you're wallbanging you're just taking guesses

if you're aiming is where recoil might be trouble

[scarlet current]

Joel if ur a 3 star just say that bro

[urban steppe]

you gained rof at the cost of never hitting anything

[clear fossil]

well it was like i see an enemy behind a physical obstacle and shoot through so not really a WALL bang but

[scarlet current]

3 star players always saying dumb shit

[whole furnace]

To be fair, picking the Mako for levering have always been the wrong move

[urban steppe]

yeah

which is why I never played explosive marko over the explosive martini

you were unironically better off with the slower gun that dealt far more dmg

esp with the ironside

to make up for the slower rof

[remote moss]

wait what

[clear fossil]

i will not tolerate mako slander ( i have said this same sentence probably a 3 or 4 times in the past 3 months on this discord)

[urban steppe]

one good shot to the chest and you just spam their legs

its gg

12 splash damage 😆

req'd

[mild flower]

why do you have to specify that this isn't ironic?

[remote moss]

yeah thats what you do

you spam leg explo so they cant fight back then finish with an easy bodyshot

especially if they try to melee rush or pennyshot

[clear fossil]

mako is probably the only gun ive proerly "defended" on this discord

[urban steppe]

because the martini is garbage in the current meta of spam guns

one of the worst long ammo guns ingame atm

[severe fossil]

Never used it

[urban steppe]

low muzzle velo
slow reload

single shot outside of using fast fingers + ironside

[remote moss]

dont tell the martini players

[mild flower]

what do you think is worse

mako?

[urban steppe]

yeah

[clear fossil]

im also a martini player

[urban steppe]

we are comparing both guns when used with explosive ammo

not base var

[remote moss]

wtf

[clear fossil]

the two guns i used most were mako and martini at one point

[mild flower]

fair. i think, if martini[non ironside] and mako were the only long ammo guns in the game, mako would be better. but the fact that other repeating long ammo rifles exist does kind of make mako obsolete

[clear fossil]

well with springfield

[urban steppe]

scroll up if you want to read me yap about why its better to have a slower gun that dealt more on the torso vs a faster shooting one

since you would need less splash dmg to capitalize off a torso hit

[clear fossil]

now ive diverged by guns more recently

no longer im only using a couple different guns

[mild flower]

i agree that more damage is better for explo

[urban steppe]

yeah that 12 splash damage needed after a torso hit is no joke

you can literally miss

and still kill

[clear fossil]

it was funny to basically go through a whole prestige only using a single gun tho

[mild flower]

'tis why explo xbow is scarce now

[urban steppe]

😾

don't remind me

I used to religiously play it

[lofty sinew]

The church of aiming is for chumps

[mild flower]

sorry.. but you are kind of explaining why it needed to go scarce lol

[clear fossil]

im prestige 5 and basically my second prestige was just mako and martini
3rd was springfield 4th was Sparks, now 5th its Rival but im also using more different guns recently as well

[urban steppe]

😿

[mild flower]

[urban steppe]

now I am the explosive martini menace...

[clear fossil]

but usually i focus one 1 gun per prestige it seems

was never my plan just happened

[urban steppe]

I get big mileage out of putting lanterns down next to doorways with this gun now

[mild flower]

ur a single shot enjoyer ey?

[clear fossil]

i tried it when i played martini a lot

[mild flower]

you should do a prestige with bomb lance >:)

[clear fossil]

too slow MV

[urban steppe]

yeah this is a compound defense gun

use it anywhere else and you are COOKED

[clear fossil]

when i played Martini
my secondary was always bomb launcher

[urban steppe]

if you are fighting people within 40-50m
they are COOKED

[clear fossil]

ik it might not be the most effective combo

but it was fun

i hate bomb lance simply because it carries less ammo and slower fire rate

[scarlet current]

Worry more about movement and aim rather than this meta gun nonsense that’s why all of y’all are stuck at 3 stars

[clear fossil]

1. im not stuck at 3*
2. i dont think many of us here are stuck at 3*
3. 3* is actually fun
4. why would i care about your opinions
5. 5* and 6* players care more about meta than anyone else

[mild flower]

don't fall for the bait.

[lofty sinew]

Don't feed it. He can't help being a loser with nothing worth contributing.

[versed cave]

man I hope that dia de los muertos dlc drops in a couple of days or something, all the skins in it look sick as hell

[whole mist]

One of my favs. I like the medkit

[turbid dock]

btw is it just me or do we all constantly find/get certain tarot cards?

empress, garden, and the fool are everywhere

the world too

[whole mist]

I almost never see the tower

[turbid dock]

while chariot and hanged man are pretty damn rare for me

[clear fossil]

i havent found single world now that i think about it i forgot it even exists

[turbid dock]

yeah the tower seems kinda rare too

[clear fossil]

and chariot is everywhere but i dont use it

[versed cave]

you're thinking of a different one as the one dropping soon doesn't have a medkit, it has a silent nagant, maynard sniper, and recovery shot skin

[clear fossil]

the one i keep findng is judgement

[whole mist]

Oh, I was thinking of the medkit, pax trueshot, and lematt carbine

[turbid dock]

kinda feel like i should start writing down every single tarot i get from tribute, world loot, and the spider nest

maybe from looting bodies too

[lofty sinew]

it feels like they're weighted differently i guess

[whole furnace]

Empress should be more rare.
But there is rarity to the cards and some are more or less common than others.

[lofty sinew]

i've seen a lot of worlds

[scarlet current]

You 100% are a 3 star player once you get good you’ll realize that all the guns r pretty much the same

[lofty sinew]

i seen maybe 1 garden

[turbid dock]

i see garden all the time

[whole mist]

Garden lowkey meh

[lofty sinew]

we're talking about frequency of seeing them not how exciting they are aren't we

[clear fossil]

thats a poor attempt at a rage bait

[whole mist]

We need happy bait

[turbid dock]

i think you could potentially do some funny shenanigans with garden if your trio has a teammate with 4 gardens that just sits in a safe spot and repeatedly pops them while the other two push lmao

[urban steppe]

I hate this card so much
my randoms always use it before I can get the 1st clue to proc conduit

like dawg

[whole mist]

I’ve just been taking x2 big stam shots now

[turbid dock]

Stamina addicts and the length they'll go to maintain their addiction lmao

[lofty sinew]

it's nice you can loot bigs from bodies now

[whole mist]

Stack it with that one card and it’s even better

[clear fossil]

ive seen world used twice

[turbid dock]

i've managed to go sober, i now only occasionally indulge in stam shots when i bring melee

[lofty sinew]

judgement / fool stacking after grabbing 4 shot can cover an entire lobby

[clear fossil]

never seen it myself

[clear fossil]

i didnt even realize that would work

stop giving your enemies (other players) ideas

[whole mist]

If I’m solo, I don’t bring stam. But in random trios my team tends to rush around everywhere, so I’ve been taking stam, gator legs, and greyhound

[urban steppe]

if you don't move fast
you just end up in the grass 😎

[lofty sinew]

big regen, big stam, 4 shot, judgement, fool, gg

[turbid dock]

double judgement after a big regen is very funy

[turbid dock]

infinite power

[whole mist]

Basically the infinity gauntlet

All the colors

[turbid dock]

one really nice use i found for the empress is ditching necro on my lvl 1 hunters

4 extra trait points in exchange for a consumable slot that i'll fill with the first toolbox i find

[whole furnace]

That is basically the only use I have for it

[urban steppe]

^

[whole mist]

I slap it on a solo sniper hunter and sit in a tower

[turbid dock]

i have used empress for catalyst beastface like 2 times so far, its nice for that

[clear fossil]

solos can use empress the best

i quess

they now can revive twice

[whole mist]

Ngl I find catalyst to be underwhelming this event

[clear fossil]

unless they get camped

[turbid dock]

it feels like a pretty balanced way to give solos multiple necros ngl, same with the lootable necro traits

[lofty sinew]

yeah

same with devil downside i spose. throwing a bone to solos that doesn't make things as wonky as they used to be feels ok

[urban steppe]

I love this idea
because it has let me farm multiple kills since I cbomb bodies

[turbid dock]

hah yeah

[urban steppe]

time and time again, the humble 3 concertina bombs has come in clutch

[turbid dock]

i run the devil in teams, i'm a gambler

[urban steppe]

Devil has no downsides in a game where restore shots exist

[lofty sinew]

my teamie has only done it once. it didn't really pay off. in duo vs trio if your devil partner goes down it's p.much gg

[whole mist]

When I use the devil, I go out of my way to hipfire lever spam….doesn’t always work out lol

[urban steppe]

that and the fact you can find restore medkits

[turbid dock]

spending 3 consumable slots on the devil and two recovery shots is kind of a big downside tho lol

[whole furnace]

In my experience fights are more snowbally nowadays anyways, so it doesn't matter if you lose 2 bars

[formal flax]

brother 6 star lobbies are almost impossible late at night, dying to kids with 5-6 kds. THE CHEATING IS UNBEARABLE. Games gunna swallow itself.

[turbid dock]

devil wildland levering my GOAT

[lofty sinew]

you tend to go down in fights though yeah. that's kinda the problem

[urban steppe]

not really if you play with teams and each guy carries 1 shot

[urban steppe]

not if you are coordinated^

[formal flax]

no wonder this shit has a lower player count then fucking every other game wiht a gun in it

[urban steppe]

instead of 1 guy lugging all 3 XD

[drowsy wagon]

is anyone else experiencing D-Sync like crazy?

[whole mist]

I died to a trio all using duel conversion chain pistols today. My team all had sparks….and we somehow lost in a super advantageous position too

[whole furnace]

Nope

[clear fossil]

i agree battles almost never end up with one side just getting downed enough for the lost bars to matter

[urban steppe]

😿

[whole mist]

Nope (I’m laying in bed)

[turbid dock]

we're beating the finals

[formal flax]

shits unreal

[drowsy wagon]

its out of control for me right now, maybe I need to reset my router or some shit. im getting killed when I pull behind cover

[clear fossil]

sure it happens on instance but the restorations are so common as well people just take a restore in the middle

like lair has restoration, restoration trais are so common

[urban steppe]

in a lobby where everyone is running long ammo/high damage weapons

1 bar 2 bar it doesn't matter
its all the same outside of surviving a lucky limb hit if everyone is in compound distance

[turbid dock]

haven't experienced much of it myself, could be on your side? what region?

[lofty sinew]

there is a big difference in survivability between being down 1 bar or 2 if a successful revive is managed. 1 tap to a handful of things or 1tap to anything p.much

[whole mist]

I’m going to stick with my 3 big bars even in trios. I hate taking goofy fall damage or a random grunt slaps me and I lose a small chunk early on

[urban steppe]

past compound distance sure

in compound distance

[drowsy wagon]

US East. Im going to reset my modem and router, my internet has been choppy lately

[urban steppe]

Idk about that one if everyone is dealing 125+

on a hit

[turbid dock]

played on us east a few hours ago, it was fine even tho i get like 90 ping

[clear fossil]

everyone usually uses weapons that deal exces of 125 dmg
only situation where 100 or 125 matters is really long distance

[urban steppe]

yeah

or if you get hit in the limb

[clear fossil]

and in those situations just disengage and take a restoration

[urban steppe]

because they can't aim hitscan guns

in 40m

^

[clear fossil]

or osmething

[urban steppe]

exactly

[lofty sinew]

do arms and legs and compact and medium pistols just not exist then? ok. I mean i get the point but in my direct experience the different isn't small

[urban steppe]

at a cetain skill level, if everyone is using long ammo, which is hitscan in that distance, you aren't going to be surviving many limbshots

its either torso or head which is death regardless

[lofty sinew]

and it also means they've eaten my resto shot >:I

teamie does not bring. why? idk.

[turbid dock]

lots of compact and medium in my lobbies, i still run the devil tho, all or nothing

[clear fossil]

well personally i dont carrie restoration shots with me either because the timess they are useful are pretty rare

usually once we are down a bar we go to the hideout (or this even the lair)

and get the full restore

or berserker/remedy to save the day

or fucking relentless so you dont lose a bar in the first place

[lofty sinew]

don't agree on the rarity at all obviously or i wouldn't always bring one

[turbid dock]

i bring like at least one resto shot pretty much every game personally, they're especially useful in my non-devil games

[urban steppe]

sadly I cannot bring a restoration shot
that would mean carrying one less concertina bomb

[clear fossil]

sure its useful i just personally dont want to waste a consumable slot on them

i rather bring my ammo box or tnt

than a restoration

[lofty sinew]

i am not crazy. i am not suggesting not bringing an ammo box

[urban steppe]

concertina bomb > any consumable

[lofty sinew]

tnt? why bring in. you find those everywhere

[turbid dock]

a common loadout for me is big regen, small regen, recovery, and ammo box. I'm staying in this fight forever

[clear fossil]

honestly because it makes killing meatheads and the bears so easy and they are everywhere

and they give traits like relentless and remedy

[lofty sinew]

bears and meaties are trivial with spear / penny anyway

i am ammo box + 3 syringes always these days

[clear fossil]

well yeah but its just faster to throw dynamite than to worry about something like spear and teammates not accidentally killing themselves

[turbid dock]

I stopped running dynamites and stuff when i became an enlightened frag arrow user but now that those have been taken from me i might need to start running them again 😔

[lofty sinew]

i just find throwables are the most common thing you pick up from tool boxes and looting bodies

[urban steppe]

no
now you qmaster a sawn off springfield loaded with double explosive

or a bomb launcher with waxed frags

[clear fossil]

dynamites allow you to open doors and destroy concertina
wich are also important because people lke melon here love concertina bombs

[urban steppe]

😾

[lofty sinew]

penny allows you to open doors

[clear fossil]

so i always carry a dynamite

[lofty sinew]

spear also deals with concertina pretty decently

i'll grant you nowhere near as quickly as dyno

[urban steppe]

yeah but that isn't efficient since you are essentially trading consumables

unless you can resupply and get more stuff to throw when you push later

[clear fossil]

well yeah but there is basically nothing dynamite cant do

[lofty sinew]

there are tool boxes all over the place during events

[turbid dock]

i might need to start running waxed frags in my lance games, i've usually done 50/50 of either steel ball or harpoons + default for PvE, but i can probably replace the default ammo with frags

[urban steppe]

yeah

[clear fossil]

and yeah dynamites are basically endless and bodies drop them as well

[urban steppe]

yeah
so I gotta bust out my secret weapon for compound defense

dropped lantern/powder keg near a doorway
explosive martini aimed at said doorway

[lofty sinew]

thats kind of the point. they're basically endless so why waste a slot bringing one in

[mild flower]

dropped lanterns can be bursted?

[clear fossil]

because they are just good enough for me to want to carry one in

[urban steppe]

yes

[mild flower]

wow i never knew that

[clear fossil]

it allows me to deal with almost any situation

where im not unde direct fire from enemy

[urban steppe]

most ppl don't either

so when they push past a door with a dropped lantern nearby

they don't think its gonna be an issue

[clear fossil]

doesnt dynamite clear away poison or somethign as well?

[lofty sinew]

'ware the lone lantern

[urban steppe]

no that's choke

[lofty sinew]

actually fire in general is a real menace now

[mild flower]

can you do it with alert tripmines

[clear fossil]

ive dynamited poisons away before 100%

especially when my friend eventually runs into conc and poison trap combo

[urban steppe]

yeah but its finnicky because you can't be accurate with dropped lantern placement
it rolls a bit on the ground

vs a powder keg which can be slapped down like an ammo box

[clear fossil]

one dynamite and both of them are removed the existing poison cloud and the conc

[urban steppe]

imo its better this way cause it looks less supicious

😆

[mild flower]

is powder keg that new baby barrel

[urban steppe]

no one expects the dropped lantern bomb

[clear fossil]

its just i always find myself using dynamite so i always carry one

[mild flower]

powder keg was such a cool addition its honestly one of my favourite parts of this update

and gives me another excuse to run dragons breath on my lemat

[lofty sinew]

I mean i use em. i just don't need one start of lobby that much i guess

[urban steppe]

dragonbolt is better imo

if you kill with the powder keg
their body will be on fire

[clear fossil]

well usually thers always a meathead at the first compound

[mild flower]

i wish lemat had dragon bolt

[clear fossil]

and thats a good chance at trying to get a free trait

[mild flower]

[not rlly]

[clear fossil]

and then a simple tool box resupplies it

[urban steppe]

ong

[lofty sinew]

as mentioned i don't need dyno to deal with meaties

[mild flower]

this is why we need starshell buff

[clear fossil]

yeah sure but its just the way i prefer

i personally dont carry penny around

[lofty sinew]

i'm pretty sure that's still allowed, so ok

[clear fossil]

and i use spear only occasionally

[urban steppe]

😼

[mild flower]

what if shooting a starshell bursted it into a tiny patch of flames

so you could use it as a makeshift area denial but need to shoot twice for it to work

wait is starshell still the same as flare or did they undo that

[urban steppe]

it is the same as a flare

[raven totem]

We could play sometime, you wouldn't have to deal with that as much

[vivid barn]

@proven lotus

[raven totem]

Current throwables deal with them fairly quick

[left orbit]

1. update is dope, really a pleasure to have something that stable right away
2. SPRINGFIELD BAYONET SKINS WHEN???

[raven totem]

We have one

[left orbit]

i don’t have/see it