hunt-general

[grave rose]

just kill em first simple

[urban steppe]

the humble 1 point trait

[remote moss]

same with explosive crossbow, uninteractive spam walls and corners impossible to fight in compounds

but hey, players suck, not like anyone else is complaining about explo

no way they know how to abuse it by clicking the fucking floors or walls and corners before someone can even peek

thats such a difficult fucking task

lol

[grave rose]

naaaa

just tap the head

[acoustic cloud]

lmao

[hazy crest]

There are so many better traits to pick instead especially with the amount of burn and scarce traits we have taking up trait slots and you shouldn’t need a trait as the only counter to a nearly inaudible 15 meter instant kill trap

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/taps-if-you-say-so-gif-9803186

[remote moss]

you right, just hide behind walls and hs with fmj

thats honestly one of the best ways to play compounds with fmj winfield

[grave rose]

now ur gettin it

geez no one has innovation these days

[acoustic cloud]

i just run around with a shotgun

[grave rose]

then suffer the consequence of ur actions

[urban steppe]

off event? no
during an event? maybe

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/emril-lagasse-bam-chef-cooking-gif-4785353

[urban steppe]

there's always space for vigiliant for me

[dreamy cave]

Yall have died to the dark satchel? Lol

[urban steppe]

nope

[acoustic cloud]

never

[dreamy cave]

Me either lol

[urban steppe]

I've killed with it before though

[remote moss]

walked into a bush one, once

was very annoying

[urban steppe]

alert tripwire on a door + dark dynamite next to it

some schmuck opened the door and yeah

😼

[dreamy cave]

I actually forget about it until someone brings it up in here lol

[acoustic cloud]

i dont see much of an issue with interesting boom boom traps

[hazy crest]

I’ve died to it’s probably in the dozens. You can’t hear that shit one bit. Y’all are just getting lucky and not running into the scum lords abusing it

[remote moss]

its annoying and usually something you dont really interact with, a massive time waster thats unfun to deal with

just because its expensive and people would rather run stam shots and shit doesnt mean it aint broken

[acoustic cloud]

maybe it's not good enough to be abused at every level

[remote moss]

just like beetles, still a broken teamplay tool now that you can communicate over distance

but hey, not like anyones using that properly

tag and force them to move, death without surefoot

it can be abused at every level, people just suck and dont use it

thats the hunt balancing

lol

[grave rose]

stab choke shoot

[acoustic cloud]

i dunno if i agree if it can be abused at every level i only hear about it from people who are complaining about it not people abusing it

[remote moss]

you right, not like a beetle can corner camp as well as a regular player with movement and make it a really bad gamble in compounds

[urban steppe]

when I'm being spectated so I pan my camera 90 degrees down into the ground so they don't know where I am

genius

[hazy crest]

devs tend to only balance at the average playerbase level (3-4 star) and don’t give a shit about what someone that knows what they’re doing can abuse

[visual quail]

warned AFTER 😭

[remote moss]

nah, just memorize the map and permanently look down until you get shot at

best way to dodge it

[visual quail]

tbh beetles are pretty easy to blast out of the sky. i dont think they are very strong at all

[acoustic cloud]

i'll start using the dynamite and trap idea that one was good

[remote moss]

its a teamplay tool, its when youre being pressured and forced to back up while a beetle makes it so you cant slow down to heal

if youre beetling while a teammate is pushing and fighting in a compound, that guy being pushed is fucked

[urban steppe]

nah nah, I just gotta be looking down 24/7

[remote moss]

you dont need to position for a teamfight, you just fucking beetle for your teammate, its fun and annoying

by itself, its obv dog

[hazy crest]

That’s part of the problem. If you want to actually hit someone with a beetle fly it hugging the ground. People literally are incapable of aiming at a ground beetle in my experience

[remote moss]

man, i always get surefoot, being able to heal and move is too op

[visual quail]

surefoot is my first trait, i never play a game without it. and if youre beetling for your teammate, we gonna hear that beetle and all of a sudden we know its a 3v2 or a 2v1, and then when your teammates are dead its a 3v1 or another 2v1.

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/blind-blind-man-gif-10849123485560757915

[remote moss]

aha but you see, in my theoretical, y'all are passive long ammo players and i doubt your skill level when noticing the beetle

[visual quail]

💀

[remote moss]

on avg, we're more likely to meet those losers than anyone who actually pushes, lol

[visual quail]

me when im in the building with you, with my mosin spitzer uppercut

[urban steppe]

the new meta

[visual quail]

i actually unbound my c key and my s key.

i only shift w

[remote moss]

i know youre lying cause you cant sprint while aiming

switch to springie bayonet, you faker

[dreamy cave]

Shift W is literally my in game name

[visual quail]

@remote moss

[tame magnet]

ive fought you lol

[urban steppe]

😼

[dreamy cave]

what was your name?

[hazy crest]

I recently made bandage and interact to different keys. That got me killed a few times in the past picking up weapons instead of stopping bleed

[tame magnet]

my discord name

[remote moss]

youre dead to me

[dreamy cave]

Was I nice? Sometimes Im mean lol

[urban steppe]

Yessir, more FELIS content 😼

[remote moss]

using small bars and not a big bar with restoration shot, smh

[urban steppe]

We stay winning

Felis mains eating good as usual

[unique trail]

Imagine if we played hunt as much as we chat about hunt

[remote moss]

no event, not worth

[visual quail]

nah ill never run this hunter. its lvl 1, maxed traits, two instances of pain sense on it

[remote moss]

ah

[visual quail]

goes hard

[remote moss]

shes been with you since the start

[tame magnet]

we were goofing off

this was a few months ago

we were flirting with each other

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/what-about-us-leland-manigo-rdcworld1-what-do-we-do-how-do-we-fit-in-gif-1671336172477865450

[visual quail]

actual hunter im running rn. i retired all my hunters so im grinding back my 60 50s

[dreamy cave]

😉 i do be flirting with people in hunt voip

[hazy crest]

The only people I shit talk are solos because they play like snakes

[acoustic cloud]

i love when people get on voip i dont use it myself but i like hearing the voices of the people im potentially going to kill

[lofty needle]

eu server down ?

[dreamy cave]

I only want batman in the moment dont worry

[acoustic cloud]

you shit talk solos in a team based game lmao

that's hilarious

[visual quail]

^^^^ fax juicy

[tame magnet]

you rejected me 2 mins ago 💔

[grave rose]

not my fault this was the cheapest day for movie tickets

[tame magnet]

true it is tuesday

[ruby plaza]

Do we have a proper patch note yet?

[acoustic cloud]

what does it mean to play like a snake in hunt i thought that was ratting

[tame magnet]

Snakes in the grass brotha

[acoustic cloud]

oh

I see now

[tall canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-cat-shaking-cat-alien-cat-gif-17719290639671130907

[tame magnet]

If that’s what they meant

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-can-dumpster-gif-1542409780052230696

[tame magnet]

But that’d be shitty for you - so idk if that’s what they meant lol

[tall canopy]

no u

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/d9luxe-crying-gif-17365114245714618063

[unique trail]

How many of you eat trash

Be honest

[tall canopy]

0

[hazy crest]

Slimy, sneaky, anything to get ahead no matter the depravity

[dreamy cave]

insert your mom joke here

[hazy crest]

Like Maynard silenced

Or mosin sniper spitzer

Or dark dynamite

[visual quail]

its 3v1 tho

just bink them in the head a couple times

[tall canopy]

my beloved

[lofty needle]

eu server down

[acoustic cloud]

isn't that how you play game though

[hazy crest]

I run bomb lance usually

[tall canopy]

if theyre down this channel will burn

[lofty needle]

its 0 MS for me

[tall canopy]

already restarted the game?

[lofty needle]

yes and steam aswell

[hazy crest]

Or sparks + hand crossbow chokes is another favorite loadout

[lofty needle]

steam restart fixed

[tall canopy]

sometimes steam is icky

perfect xD

gl&hf

[lofty needle]

icky lingo i can teach you some, ich bin die scheiße that means im the shit

[tall canopy]

im german i knowh what that means lmao

[lofty needle]

[grave rose]

You like beer

[tall canopy]

no

[shut forum]

beer is disgusting

change my mind

[tall canopy]

alcohol is

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-a-betrayal-on-levels-that-no-ones-ever-seen-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-i-feel-so-betrayed-you-betrayed-me-youre-a-traitor-gif-1104170541869895970

[shut forum]

also true

[tall canopy]

u r thinking about bavaria not germany

[acoustic cloud]

beer taste like piss

if you like piss taste that's acquired i think

[grave rose]

No it's germany my baby brother went to oktoberfest I know what it's like

ik the truth

[unique trail]

No. More for me then

[tall canopy]

also dont tell amon you dont like beer

[grave rose]

Who?

[unique trail]

I drink and hunt sometimes

[iron pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-empty-head-party-gif-7543900816490460697

[unique trail]

Though if I drink more then I need to switch to another game like marvel rivals

[tame magnet]

drunt

[iron pilot]

druntunt

[tall canopy]

hink

[unique trail]

And only then I play as a character I dont need to aim much with

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-bart-vibe-groove-dance-gif-15287212887189905850

[hazy crest]

It’s stunt for me

[unique trail]

Vibes based hunt ONLY

No loadout

Just whatever you come across

[hazy crest]

all I ever see in the towers are springfields and sparks

[iron pilot]

When we shootin fools again Scarecrow

[tame magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-24163876

[grave rose]

Maybe today if bats ain't available will have to be after 3 gotta drop the kid off at movies with his friends

[iron pilot]

al g

[remote moss]

take high ground with surefoot and use pitcher frags

[unique trail]

What movie

[remote moss]

thats how you hunt prey

you give them a situation where its impossible to escape and abuse hunts gameplay as much as possible

sprint pitcher frags, such an interesting and fun mechanic to engage with

to be fair, balancing isnt that important, hunt was never designed around perfect balance and they got money problems so its smart to focus on pulling as many normal players as possible

[hazy crest]

Zero counter play kills are so fun and skillful

[tall canopy]

and placing satchels on dead bodies and wait for them to revive

[hazy crest]

They should add more way to do that

[remote moss]

hey, hunts not about skill, silly

its about lots of gameplay options

"fun"

[tall canopy]

all can be countered

[remote moss]

gotta consider the avg playerbase

[remote moss]

rude

[tall canopy]

works every time and is funny af

[hazy crest]

There is literally nothing that can be done about a well placed satchel

[tall canopy]

theres a trait

[remote moss]

dynamite

[tall canopy]

1 point

[remote moss]

oh a satchel trap

[tall canopy]

dauntless

[remote moss]

right, the bandaid perk that no one likes

[hazy crest]

I bring dauntless every game

[tall canopy]

wait

not dauntless

vigilant lol

huch

[hazy crest]

Vigilant is not worth the slot

[tall canopy]

it is very worth

i mean, please dont ever pick that trait cause i can play the satchel even better that way

[remote moss]

current challenges are just kinda dumb, i dunno why hunt player settled for something that just added more rng

i miss the standardized bomb lance challenge

6 stars fucking around, having fun, pushing

still had rats camping with steel balls like a shotgun fucker

but it was fun

[tall canopy]

rats?

[hazy crest]

You

[remote moss]

yeah, they would just use it like a shotgun

[tall canopy]

me

always

[remote moss]

rat

[tall canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rats-my-beloved-beloved-makesweet-gif-21723803

[hazy crest]

gremlin

[obsidian garden]

a rifle player who is keeping distance, not playing the objective and not pushing the lair is a rat as well?

[remote moss]

oh no, thats just larry

long ammo larry

in his natural habitat

no one likes him but we tolerate him cuz hes friends with the cool kids that do the same thing

[hazy crest]

unless it’s a Maynard silenced

Then they’re still a rat

[tall canopy]

in the end everyone should play the way they like and have fun with and if you like sniping without caring for the bounty just going for kills, do it

[hazy crest]

Unless you’re satchel sally. Then you should feel bad

[remote moss]

i mean, thats how they designed hunt so ye

[tall canopy]

i never feel bad

[hazy crest]

well you should

[tall canopy]

i play satchel every round 😄

[remote moss]

lots of options, "competitive" gameplay feels like shit and plays like garbage, gotta hope both players deliberately go dumb

me personally, just camp corners with shotgun while they push

most reasonable way to engage in hunt

or if in eu, just sparks sniper and steal kills every time someone gets tagged

copy the gameplay of those around you

😎

[hazy crest]

I run lance and if they have a cyclone I’m just dead

[remote moss]

silly, why arent you running optimal gameplay bomb lance

where its a glorified shotgun but with really good melee that works for PvE too

camp and chill

[hazy crest]

I usually run one slot dragon’sbreath one slot waxed frags

[remote moss]

uhhh

still pretty viable, i think, can frag corners and windows and shit

its ok if youre the one pushing a compound

db on it is kinda bad but has more range i think?

at least its not as toxic and easy to use as dragon bolts

[hazy crest]

status effects are funnier than outright killing people

and cause more psychological trauma

[remote moss]

thats it

thats what hunt was made for

db terminus, db bolts

you dont want to kill them, theyll just leave and enter another game

you want to ruin this game for them, and theyre too chicken to just leave the game if theyre not dead

then you camp their nearest extract right when they think theyre safe

[hazy crest]

exactly

[remote moss]

boom, 20 minutes of their life gone to shit

[hazy crest]

That’s the spirit

[remote moss]

and once youve tilted them, theyre gonna play even worse in the next few games until they stop playing altogether

[hazy crest]

When they first introduced db crossbow bolts I ran into a team that was all running it in both slots

[remote moss]

but they cant stop playing, can they, games too addictive

[hazy crest]

That was the most demoralizing fight I’ve ever had in this game

[remote moss]

very engaging

breaking people is very fun

[remote moss]

so now youve given them a core memory that'll take them a while to forget, and youve extended your influence from one game to an entire days worth of games for that person

its just a really fun way to play

and its all within ToS

cant stop us now

[hazy crest]

And that was before the funny white shot that negates the need to play the objective

[remote moss]

damn

[worn oak]

My new PC is here. At last! ☕

[urban steppe]

portable red barrel??!!?!?

[hazy crest]

What’s the point satchel is better

[urban steppe]

disrespecting people by beating them to death with it

duh

[frigid ibex]

Looks like a barrel

[urban steppe]

like how I'll go out of my way to whack people with my ammo box instead of spear melee if possible

[gusty vigil]

What a waste like dark satchel and alarm traps weren’t a portable red barrel

[urban steppe]

nah the boom will probably be bigger imo

[remote moss]

they should make it undetectable by vigilant

you dont need tripwire to pop it, just wait with a flare

[hazy crest]

I want a portable yellow barrel for the psychological trauma

[remote moss]

then itll wrap around the window and kill the guy outside

peak

[gusty vigil]

Hell nah son barrels are weak af compared to dynamite bundles, especially big dynamite bundles I’ve murked foos through compounds when I throw that bitch on a roof

[urban steppe]

2 alerts

[gusty vigil]

We can cuss in here right?

[hazy crest]

True

[urban steppe]

LOL

[hazy crest]

No cussing in my pg hunt server you motherfucker

[gusty vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/dap-dap-me-up-gif-14084891587994567388

[dreamy cave]

Thats what im hoping for

[raven totem]

I agree, but the complaints where never going to stop about seeing a bunch of one loadout

cho ku no week was nutty

[remote moss]

meh, whatever gets people to calm down, i guess

[hazy crest]

I don’t need chu ko nu week to run it

[frigid ibex]

They should do cyclone challenges

[remote moss]

i wanted to like the chain explosion on the chu ko nu but i just use it as an alternative to winnie vandal

shits quiet and good fire rate

[remote moss]

agreed

[sinful aurora]

cussing yeah, but no insults, no slurs, no discriminatory language.

[hazy crest]

I’ve never wanted to punch someone more than right now

[remote moss]

most people still cant use cyclone, its gonna be good for them to learn that now you can two tap to limb with cyclone

more easily than usual

[frigid ibex]

If you force everybody to meet it, it might actually be nerfed

[dense girder]

What happened to Dizz? 😭

[remote moss]

who knows, maybe theyll have insane quality weapon balancing this event

probs not tho

[frigid ibex]

I changed the name for fun, I'm too lazy to change back

[sinful aurora]

lazy Joe

[dense girder]

Lmao

[remote moss]

thought you were just a random freaky fucker that just got hired

[hazy crest]

I still don’t think crytek would take the hint

[remote moss]

there should be a list of weapons to be balanced

[hazy crest]

Transparency from crytek? Unthinkable

[frigid ibex]

Pick rate balancing shouldn't be a thing

Tbh

We get absurd results

[hazy crest]

no it’s not

[remote moss]

wonder what the pick rate of winnie is, its still in a semi broken state because of how consistent levering fmj is

but i dont see many people abusing it, its all long ammo

so they buffed levering cause peoples skill issue... what a fun idea

[frigid ibex]

Last time they were public about pick rates, winnie was up there top 5

[remote moss]

oh good

[frigid ibex]

Uppercut been number 1 for many years

[raven totem]

that was quite some time ago and I feel sure that has changed

[frigid ibex]

Yeah

[raven totem]

ironically my quest gun this week

[remote moss]

regardless of the rewards, youre still part of the problem

for shame

[frigid ibex]

I think its still in the top. They slipped that in a dev note on a patch note

[astral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/true-correct-dwight-schrute-rainn-wilson-right-gif-23822659

[frigid ibex]

Possible

Obrez drum is just superior over any pistol anyway

[hazy crest]

Berthier is probably number two on the long ammo tier list rn but people still ain’t using it for whatever reason

[frigid ibex]

So they can keep buffing it

[dense girder]

Is the Uppercut that butchered compared to it prior nerfs? I still enjoy playing it

[raven totem]

no shame, shame in a video game is laughable

[frigid ibex]

Its not butchered

[remote moss]

explain why we have gore but not nudity, checkmate

[astral moss]

The fact that auto-5 and Dolch is still not nerfed when its in every game/load-out.

[frigid ibex]

Bullet drop is a universally big downside to all pistols and that's what made them less strong

[obsidian garden]

I would not say obrez drum is superior. You trade dmg for fire rate. They are quite different.

[remote moss]

man, if nagant precision had some weird addition to the scoped version so you could lead it at longer ranges

that shits such a headclicker once you get into compounds, but damn hard to use outside of it

[raven totem]

excluding that uppercut is quite strong

[hazy crest]

Have you seen the hive glitch? We got nudity brother

[astral moss]

Its insane.

[remote moss]

what

oh

well

no words

[raven totem]

oh these guys like to run up and sniff hives

[frigid ibex]

I guess uppercut is stronger than before, 40m drop off now

Kinda sick

Nerf pistol

[hazy crest]

Still drops like a rock

[frigid ibex]

Explosive ammo is meme

[raven totem]

I've been running it, feels really good and people are still underselling pistols atm

[frigid ibex]

Nah

I'd rather explosive ammo be meme than

I'm in cover and dying

[remote moss]

explosive ammo is unbalanced meme, you just use levering, dualies, or the fanning and people cant fight back in tight compounds

[hazy crest]

because qm is so easy

[remote moss]

its "broken" because you just engage in a duel where the other guy cant fight back

[raven totem]

it had love for the centepede event then crytek made it meme again right after

[remote moss]

for corners, its still the more broken explosive crossbow and frag bow you cant fight back against

[hazy crest]

Qm needs to be more expensive imo

[frigid ibex]

They should nerf fanning again

Qm should be 3 trait points

To compensate

[remote moss]

dolch is pretty weak rn

its dolch precision that works

[dense girder]

Give it DumDum again

[frigid ibex]

Ok buddy

[raven totem]

I saiy make qm, fanning levering all 7 points

[dense girder]

But scarce

make it not scarce fr

[frigid ibex]

I played some dolch dead eye thinking it was meme

And then I spammed down the whole lobby in disbelief

So even the most meme dolch is not even balanced

[dense girder]

QM deserves 10 points ngl

[remote moss]

good work

[frigid ibex]

No

[remote moss]

but have you considered that deadeye on any semi auto is op cause you can actually see what youre shooting

takes away the main design flaw of hunts guns, you cant fucking see shit if you aim head level

except for specific sights

[frigid ibex]

Its a non precision dolch though

[raven totem]

cyclone dead eye when?

[remote moss]

still, its easier to make aim corrections when you can actually see things

[frigid ibex]

Next next patch surely

[raven totem]

I really want to see what modifications are on this new centenial

[frigid ibex]

Semi auto alone makes it easier for aim corrections

[raven totem]

human instinct to mash button kicking in

[frigid ibex]

So long it's not a straight upgrade I'm fine with it

[remote moss]

ehhh specifically thats when considering bodyshots, but headshots are made artificially hard with bad visibility and semi auto shoots too fast so the gun blocks more than it does for other guns

i stopped going for headshots recently when running bornie match just cause

bodyshots way more consistent

[wise plume]

is daselle still there

[dreamy cave]

Yes

[remote moss]

yes, add bornie explo

its balanced

[shrewd hemlock]

explosive syringe plz

[raven totem]

I mean the choices are that or a long barrel rival, I'm anticipating a t 3 centenial. I'm thinkin it's going to be kinda busted somehow

[astral moss]

Never seen a lie like that.

[hazy crest]

You inject it and explode in 10 seconds

[remote moss]

theyre gonna balance it like obrez drum, give it 17 in the mag, and 9 in the reserve

[shrewd hemlock]

you inject it and if u die while active you explode like a meathead shot with a bomb lance

[raven totem]

centenial didn't need a mag increase, watch it have tighter hipfire spread or something

[remote moss]

if they make it op for levering, im gonna be salty

but thatd be good for cent usage, fmj would be a viable alternative to winnie

[scenic plinth]

ruptured cracked tear from elden ring, the one that makes you explode

[raven totem]

I bet a hunt buck it's going to be op for levering

[shrewd hemlock]

tripod for avto plz and a silencer and explosive rounds

[hazy crest]

never played Elden ring

[frigid ibex]

Their history is making mediocre guns in comparison to the top guns so surely it wont be busted

The triple buffing stuff is recent developments

[scenic plinth]

its just a drink that makes you explode

[raven totem]

looking at pact trait balancing of the past does give room for this

[remote moss]

long barrel rival is weird, makes it more forgiving so it can potentially two tap to 20m with buck?

[raven totem]

at rival cycle time

[remote moss]

could be interesting, better for aggressive players but still having a "bad" one tap range

[frigid ibex]

Pacts have a history of having one one-sided with ridiculous traits.

[hazy crest]

Ban anyone who equips avto new update

[shrewd hemlock]

meanwhile slugs only work up to 14m

[remote moss]

shouldve double tapped with slugs

two tap to 40m or whatever

[raven totem]

longbarrel slugs are 15m

[raven totem]

48

[remote moss]

DUDE, if they add a trait to remove recoil, semi auto would be broken

[shrewd hemlock]

when you only use two grains of gunpowder in your slug shell

[remote moss]

or if they add that one trait that increased accuracy and lowered sway

[frigid ibex]

They are broken

[raven totem]

bring back crackshot

[frigid ibex]

Idk what to tell you

[hazy crest]

That’s only slightly more broken than crack shot was

[remote moss]

all im saying is, semi auto not being able to headshot solely because of bad visibility is annoying

its a good balancing mechanic but i absolutely hate it

[dense girder]

What was that?

[shrewd hemlock]

bring back the explosive heatseeking sawblade launcher

[raven totem]

nitro fun

[gusty vigil]

I want to be a moderator @frigid ibex

[frigid ibex]

If you're bringing ironsights into this? That's not unique to semi auto

[hazy crest]

You don’t know what crack shot was

[junior marlin]

anyone playing this game on a RTX 3070 Ti?

[raven totem]

gotta become a conrtibutor first

[frigid ibex]

Prove it

[remote moss]

every time i kill with bornie match, i have the terrifying realization that winfield does the same thing but better and more consistent just cause of higher visibility for hs

it hurts

very badly

and levering, ofc

[dense girder]

🤔

[raven totem]

I was running match incindiary the other day, so much fun

[remote moss]

hell yeah, great support tool

die to your long ammo teammates, damn rats

[raven totem]

na that was the whole loadout

and duel lemats

[remote moss]

dual lemats??

[raven totem]

ye

[remote moss]

ballsy, id run vandal for ammo

[raven totem]

na duel lemats is rival hc

[shrewd hemlock]

in all seriousness id like to see more crazy weapons like the bomb lance in the game, the saw blade launcher was a good idea until it also could ricochet into a heat seeking bullet and also explodes thats why it became too much they literally could had just removed those two functions of the weapon and it would had been fine

[raven totem]

bornheim match duel lemats used to be the go to for that build, it still works great honestly

[remote moss]

bornie incend is one of the few strange weapons that destroys long ammo rats. your goal is to char enough that they cant peek without being one tapped to teammates long ammo

it forces them back into their fucking holes and increases your win chance a lot

[hazy crest]

The saw blade launcher was a shitty addition on many levels but I would like to see more steampunk nonsense weapons like that if they’re properly balanced

[remote moss]

even in compounds, its the same thing, your long ammo players can suddenly push super aggressively cause its now a one tap at any range gun

damn fun teamplay mechanic

not fun on the receiving end and useless against no peek rats tho

[remote moss]

so hear me out, steampunk chu ko nu but it one taps to 20m

[dense girder]

Mosin Obrez Pistol when 👉👈

[remote moss]

felt ok to me

[frigid ibex]

Would help if they made a checklist what a new weapon shouldn't have.

• Fast reload magazine
• Spam (semi-auto)

[shrewd hemlock]

thats what im saying, remove the ricochet remove the explosive rounds make the bullet velocity way slower give it a hefty damage drop past 20m and give it a limited ammo supply similar to the avto only get the one clip you start with and the saw blade launcher would be a good gun its already noisy as hell which was its only downside take all that other stuff away and make it have limited ammo with slow bullet travel and a short range damage drop and it would be fine

[hazy crest]

Please

[frigid ibex]

Saw blade launcher that had long reload and single shot

[hazy crest]

No new semi auto guns

[frigid ibex]

Would've been more acceptable

Than spam with fast reload

[remote moss]

saw blade being able to bounce corners is a really good compound weapon

its as balanced as explo crossbow

[shrewd hemlock]

that would also had worked

i just wanna see more wacky guns in the game

[remote moss]

if they slowed the saw blade down a bit, itd be pretty good for hunts health

people get too scared to hide in compounds cause bounce of death

so they fight outside

use shotgun to shoot it to stop the bounce so it gets completely negated

[shrewd hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/revolver-ocelot-gif-26257771

[frigid ibex]

Hunt isn't quake

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/toad-toad-animal-gif-13403305226184997145

@tame magnet

[frigid ibex]

We don't need bouncing stuff

It was also homing to make things worse

[hazy crest]

I’d be fine if it bounced at the same angle it entered instead of locking onto targets

[remote moss]

then at least a single bounce kinda weapon, ehh?

[shrewd hemlock]

yeah the ricochet made it way too op especially since it was confirmed that it would intentionally ricochet at any player within i think it was like 5m of where it bounced

[remote moss]

it needed homing cause they playtested it and couldnt aim

[shrewd hemlock]

that was a dumb decision

[grave rose]

Noo bats is goone

[raven totem]

had a giant lair fight in crematorium. after wiping a team I voiped "unreal tourniment"

[remote moss]

itd be fair solely because the fucking explo crossbow still exists

both unbalanced, probs more hate for the bounce to draw attention off it

[raven totem]

don't worry about it

[hazy crest]

Well they fired all their playtesters and the devs are all 2 and 3 stars so that’s the balancing we get

[shrewd hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/katyusha-gif-18144996

when the whole enemt team has kuno crossbows with explosives

[remote moss]

nah, one of the dev guys is a long ammo nerd

[tame magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-how-you-doin-gif-18120107

[shrewd hemlock]

chu ku no

whatever

[raven totem]

either more than one or one of the very important ones

[shrewd hemlock]

however its spelled

[remote moss]

i dont remember their names but the best ones that play on stream were all long ammo nerds

on the crytek channel

[hazy crest]

You spelled it right

[grave rose]

you good for a match just found out one of his friends mother are bringin em so im free

[tame magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-look-stare-awkward-guilty-gif-5289290

[frigid ibex]

I'm gonna get you

[shrewd hemlock]

cho ku no i had to look it up lol

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-not-allowed-tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-that's-unacceptable-you-can't-do-that-gif-3684130729400581841

[frigid ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-to-the-depths-with-you-funny-cat-gif-13976503870885091049

[raven totem]

I try not to point devs out personally. I'm just sayig I don't see long being touched over all at this point without an entire rework of huntrs weapons

[raven totem]

SCARECROW! did you see the new scarecrow zombie looking hunter?

[remote moss]

limb shot dmg change was infuriating

but better for health of the game, small price to pay by lowering a skill ceiling that most people would never know about

[grave rose]

i did duude im so fucking ready for

it

[remote moss]

no more taking bad fights because you know they cant aim or they can only limb

[grave rose]

got my credit card on standby\

[hazy crest]

If the devs were actually paying any attention that would have reverted that shit post haste

[raven totem]

bets on goth cowgirl being blood bond hunter?

[remote moss]

oh shit we have a goth now?

[grave rose]

100%

[remote moss]

damn

felis competitor

[remote moss]

its like, it might matter to good players but the avg playerbase is happy that their limb shots finally matter

instead of just getting farmed cause their aim sucks cause they have a life and shit, lol

im happy for them even if it pisses me off

[frigid ibex]

Sounds like the new main the clans people will have

Ngl

[shrewd hemlock]

once upon a time this game didnt have female characters lol

[remote moss]

sounds like a new skin to target and instaburn

[frigid ibex]

Rude

[tame magnet]

Just got off to make him lunch lol

[frigid ibex]

I instaburn everyone

[remote moss]

oh great, youre one of those people that believe in equality

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/noo-gif-12326737461245487165

[remote moss]

[tame magnet]

Later later

[grave rose]

all right maybe tomorrow

[shrewd hemlock]

ur just missing out on more kills

[tame magnet]

….

Oh wait it’s easier for you

[grave rose]

?

[frigid ibex]

Im done with killing people 9 times only for them to have full bars and killing me once to win

[shrewd hemlock]

dont die to them then

[frigid ibex]

Its tiring to never extract but have good kd positive match

[grave rose]

steppin away for a sec brb bb @tame magnet

[tame magnet]

Weekends for dad gaming

[frigid ibex]

When you give people enough second chances they will succeed eventually

[remote moss]

by playing solos only and farming less skilled players, especially now when the playerbase is dead and theres less balancing

[shrewd hemlock]

why you just bring poison bombs

[tame magnet]

Shoot head before head shot

[remote moss]

if i was playing like how people play in eu in 6 star, my kd would be steadily climbing to 3.5KD, but damn i hate it

[hazy crest]

Imo yes

[rapid crystal]

i want spider with chu ko nu strapped to its back and bunch of strings attached to operate it

[shrewd hemlock]

avto silencer when

[remote moss]

nah, theyre old accounts, they played back when they had a free stat reset and when mmr balancing was less of a factor

their actual KD nowadays is barely 2.0 with meta weapons and ratting

[frigid ibex]

There's a fundamental problem where we've removed drawbacks to losing.

Revive bolts was the biggest straw

Luckily gone

[shrewd hemlock]

same it would only make sense,

[hazy crest]

Restoration other than banish should be removed imo. Make the bounty actually matter for people that are sitting on oodles of hunt dollars

[rapid crystal]

couldve just remove the revive effect and make em heal bolts... removing was an overkill

[remote moss]

no way to balance it properly to stop you from losing a shit game just cause you traded and whatever vs res spam, i guess?

i think its better for the game, but it sucks in the stalemate situations we always get into

[shrewd hemlock]

kinda dumb that someone who just started and dies a lot goes down to like .50 kd and if they start doing better they still have a low kd lol

[frigid ibex]

I'm glad it's completely gone. If they were around it'd have the potential to come back with revival

[remote moss]

yeah, its inflated and lowered nonsense, dont worry too much about KD

tarkov sucks but at least it has a free stat wipe every year even in tarkov arena

lol

[shrewd hemlock]

i had a few matches the other day where i had 5 games in a row getting 3 kills in 3 of them and 2 matches where i got 5 kills and my kd only went up 0.01%

shit makes no sense

[rapid crystal]

i believe we not gonna see em ever again unless a miracle happens

[remote moss]

every above average player running meta there averages 2KD in arena, strangely similar to how the current hunt "top" players average with meta

[hazy crest]

I’d rather have it gone permanently than risk them reintroducing the revive aspect

[frigid ibex]

That's the best outcome tbh

[rapid crystal]

i simply wish them to make heal bolts with no revive bs

[remote moss]

just add a black bar mechanic where res bolt victims revive on 50hp and have to wait for it to slowly refill, healing cant speed it up

ez

[frigid ibex]

The time to kill is too fast to have the healer role

[brisk ruin]

A long barred rival and a high capacity cent? that will be interesting to find.

[hazy crest]

I think it would have been better that way yes but crytek just can’t help themselves from overbuffing things

[shrewd hemlock]

revive bolts should just stay gone forever

in every way

[remote moss]

meh

[hazy crest]

meh?

[frigid ibex]

Community does contribute to the over buffing.

Flash bombs were free victory in the past, took 2 years to get nerfed and now people are pretending it was never a problem

I don't want to see it return, that thing will be busted or useless

[remote moss]

i like the concept, especially the ability to heal someone mid-fight with it and win long ammo duels

i dont mind because i play semi auto, i dont run slow guns where spam ressing is toxic and hard to fight against

[hazy crest]

Trios all with revive bolts was one of the most cancer fights in the history of the game

[shrewd hemlock]

this is a game that kinda relies heavily on call outs and information revive bolts ruined that information and made people frustrated when youd count 3 down but someone got revive bolted so they kill you while your guards down

[remote moss]

yeah, it was bad for anyone who didnt run fast boys or shotguns

[rapid crystal]

we used the healing strat to a great success. works like a charm unless one gets blasted with a shotgun or gets a headshot. but that can be solved with applying common sense

[brisk ruin]

I would be ok with just the heal I feel you are giving up a secondary for this and not all guns stand alone well, lemat ranger are 2 guns that do stand alone.

[remote moss]

yeah, let us keep the heal bolt mechanic

[shrewd hemlock]

a heal bolt is one thing that i can see being okay

[remote moss]

a quick 50hp heal then a slow regen for another 50hp

[shrewd hemlock]

but reviving a downed team instantly was op

[remote moss]

two guns spam heal bolt one guy that sits in a window so you cant beat him, fun

[rapid crystal]

that is true

[remote moss]

a trio running in the open towards a compound, all heal bolting each other to stay alive, lmao

[shrewd hemlock]

in a game where most people are camping until someone makes a foot step i still see that not working out well

[frigid ibex]

The revival spam made us win fights we should ve lost

When we didn't bring revive bolts it felt like we were throwing, everything was winnable with revive spam and it makes sense.

The more chances you get you'll eventually overcome and win

[hazy crest]

The heal aspect of the bolts usually made my teammates panic more than it helped

[rapid crystal]

we pretty much did that but with pushing evac

[brisk ruin]

Yeah it was far to good

[remote moss]

meh, it is bad cause its harder to fight rats

cant tag, trade, and push, its tag, they get healed, now you gotta fight healthy shotguns

[remote moss]

peak

[fathom shale]

If anything, revive bolts highlighted the problem of revive spam/fast reviving in general, and in my opinion normal reviving should be slowed down ever so slightly as well since people have started to realize how easily they can just insta res teammates

I've had fights where the enemy gets revived after I down them before I even have time to fully reload my crossbow and peek them again That's way too fast

[shrewd hemlock]

but what they should add to the game tho above anything else is explosive syringes

i want gunpowder in my veins

[remote moss]

dude, its like people forgot the old meta days where long ammo rats would insta res. even if you got a hs at range, their teammates would res and keep pressure on you since you'd usually be tagged once

[brisk ruin]

hit a target with poison/fire or something hard hitting like a sparks, toss a throwable like dynamite and bees and you can get a good revive most of the time just by walking.

[remote moss]

was the most frustrating shit

[shrewd hemlock]

take shot get 5 min duration if u die while active you explode

take shot run into compound with an axe

[fathom shale]

Downing someone should matter, yet it's made matter less and less when reviving is so fast and they can get their bars back the second they get up with traits/consumables

[shrewd hemlock]

on the other hand u get shot in the head next to team and explode on them

[frigid ibex]

Yeah I have noticed the same issue. The revival spam from revive bolt got everybody hooked on quick and aggressive revives and it cause a big issue.

[rapid crystal]

also imagine the re peek if traded hits. it was straight up cruel to see em panic after they hit our teammate 3 times and he just keep sitting in that window

[shrewd hemlock]

it has both sides of the coing

coin*

[frigid ibex]

It happens too often

[brisk ruin]

I agree with that, hot take I dislike how the recovery shot makes it so easy to get bars back, every other way was circumstance and came at a cost.

[frigid ibex]

I miss the information game hunt had

[brisk ruin]

also I feel like I have to run it now

[hazy crest]

I really miss when banish was the only restoration

[shrewd hemlock]

once upon a time this was the hunter load out screen

[remote moss]

mans immortal, fr

[hazy crest]

You could keep track of everyone’s bars and use it to your advantage

[fathom shale]

Reviving should be something that can only be done either due to significant negligence of the enemy or after a fight, not something that is semi safely done between the enemy's need to reload

[hazy crest]

now who tf knows what health the enemy has

[brisk ruin]

I was ok with rampage because you took a risk getting a kill for it, remedy requires you to be near a trait and takes time.

[rapid crystal]

then he caught a bullet with his head

[remote moss]

i like surefoot and restoration shot solely because it makes gameplay better on average, less punishing for mistakes and more of a skill factor in engagements even when you fuck up or trade

[shrewd hemlock]

bring randomized health bars back

[rapid crystal]

10 times better than current ui

[remote moss]

i guess theyre pretty obnoxious but i cant say i liked the gameplay that much before it came around

always some long ammo shitters coming to pick you off on low hp while fighting boss and teams

now they lose that one tap advantage and theyre just easy pickings

[pearl rock]

hunt showdown 👍

[fathom shale]

You can have restoration without it also being less punishing to those who died due to the lack of skill factor, bar restoration should exist outside just banishing but it needs to be something that requires more effort so that it cannot be done easily mid fight

[hazy crest]

Peacekeeper was the way

[fathom shale]

In my opinion peacekeeper was the most balanced bar restoration, it required you to either have bodies around or kill someone and loot them to get your bar back

[remote moss]

yeah, that was the shit

[hazy crest]

Only if you kill them and finish the fight you get ‘em back

[shrewd hemlock]

players have too much control over their health imo they need to remove the recovery shot and bring back randomized health bars

[remote moss]

its easy to pick off one guy, hard to flush out a team once theyre entrenched

save bodies to peacekeep later after winning a fight

[fathom shale]

No reason to remove bar customization

That one is pure quality of life

[brisk ruin]

This it was the most fair compromise I feel, I don't run long ammo myself I like medium (used to lower vel) but taking down 2 bars and having all of that work undone is annoying.

[remote moss]

hey medium nerd

you win the rof fight vs most long ammo players rn, and your limb shot range got buffed

dont be afraid to peek them around compounds

[loud vapor]

Easy fix. Remove the Martini from the game

[brisk ruin]

I take that as a complement, but yes medium did get buffed I loved it long before the buffs though so it...feels a bit cheaty now.

[frigid ibex]

Peacekeeper was the best solution over everything we have actually gotten so far. Sadly the implementation was not balanced which had the redskull benefit which left a bad aftertaste for everyone

[shrewd hemlock]

nah its pure player comfort hunt used to be a game that pushed players out of their comfort zone they got rid of a lot of things that did that so newer players would stay around and not feel so brutally challenged

[urban steppe]

The new spider event looks great

I can't wait for the BBQ butcher themed event this summer

[shrewd hemlock]

not being able to pick wether your health ended in a long or short bar was one of those things

[remote moss]

nah, the recent buffs made it more competitive against other fast guns like drilling and winnie, its in a pretty good state rn while not overpowering either one, just good overall

[fathom shale]

Being able to setup bars has existed for ages man, it just used to require trait points and didn't have an option to save a setup that gets applied to all hunters

[shrewd hemlock]

wether you go down 3 times or 5 times

[young panther]

hey dizz, diiba, ham and the other white usernames

[remote moss]

hello old man

im 20 years your senior, how dare you thumbs down me

[loud vapor]

Hello Alcor

[urban steppe]

😼

[shrewd hemlock]

you say ages like it was pre 1.0 or something i dont think they added that in until they started doing events

[brisk ruin]

I do feel like a push towards faster firing guns is becoming more commen though, the restore shots do have (at least a slight) impact on that I feel.

[fathom shale]

1.0 was in 2019, so yes, ages

[frigid ibex]

Hello alcor, thanks for letting me know about the white usernames, didn't notice them

[shrewd hemlock]

it wasnt 1.0 tho

events came long after 1.0

[fathom shale]

For majority of the game's lifetime, you have been able to choose your bar setup

Let's just put it that way

[hazy crest]

It was 2022 or 2023 when they made it so you could change bars for free

[urban steppe]

it used to cost BBs

to redo

[shrewd hemlock]

that too

[brisk ruin]

Think it was a small amount but still added up if you used it.

[urban steppe]

I remember burning out my bars at extract just to respec them for the next match to have 4 smalls

if I got 3 big ones

😹

[shrewd hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-7ds-arthur-7ds-seven-deadly-sins-meliodas-gif-7109435812048165954

[fathom shale]

Either way, saying that choosing your bar setup is a problem somehow is making a problem out of nothing

Everyone should have an equal footing there

[brisk ruin]

Honestly I think the original convo derailed at some point

[shrewd hemlock]

i think that was why they added it to the game was cause players would just burn their bars down to respec them but that would cost you points so i found it to be balanced imo

[young panther]

[slender timber]

[brisk ruin]

Saves time

[frigid ibex]

Cyclone? I don't even remember the original topic

[urban steppe]

its arguably better now because more small bars = more chances for me to farm kills off of guys who got res'd without resilience LOL

[shrewd hemlock]

i guess, but it also opened a lot of doors to things players dont like now such as recovery shots

[brisk ruin]

Cyclone don't get me started on that, I love vet even before it's buff I refuse to use cyclone simply because it's to good in my hands.

[hazy crest]

It all comes back to cyclone eventually

[urban steppe]

cyclone 🤮

bornheim match incend with incend vandal for extra ammo to spam 😼

[remote moss]

thats the way, you rat

char their fucking bars, let them taste how it feels to be one tap to long ammo

they deserve that shit

[shrewd hemlock]

remember when they first introduced explosive ammo and everyone and their mom ran uppercuts with fanning with them lol

those were the days

[brisk ruin]

so heres a fun question for you all, which guns carried you through the ranks? and which gun did you kill with first? Mine was a martine for the kill and cent and slate that got me to 6 before 1896.

[south shore]

Dizz moment

[remote moss]

man, you shouldve seen the peak of springfield explosive

[hazy crest]

Maybe on console. Explo ammo was always meh on pc until the mako made it somewhat useful

[remote moss]

had just enough extra range to lead to some super unfair two taps before they could get deep into cover

[sinful aurora]

darth vader with a cowboy hat actually goes hard

[remote moss]

nowadays its very mid, not enough range or dmg to get that finisher

[fathom shale]

Explo was busted on PC as well before it was nerfed

[young panther]

winnie c and winnie c

[fathom shale]

Could easily kill people with splash damage spam

[brisk ruin]

I can respect that winnie c is a great gun, it's the orginal mascot for hunt.

[hazy crest]

And it is the Winnie c

[frigid ibex]

Explosion stuff on ballistics have the issue of being too effective on splash damage which has too many use cases

[urban steppe]

Yeah because you usually need 3 bullets from this gun to kill = when they go down, they will have alr lost a bar from burning alone

each death = 2 bars lost
unless they have a big bar at the end (no one does this, since the meta is 4 smalls and 1 big)

[hazy crest]

Not the frontier or whatever the kids are calling it these days

[frigid ibex]

Ranger

[shrewd hemlock]

i remember them having to nerf the hell out of it because it was pretty op when it first came out

[brisk ruin]

I do wonder why they renamed it copy right or?

[urban steppe]

it still is fairly strong
I got 4 out of the 6 kills from my last game running TWO double explosive springfield shortys

[remote moss]

uhhh, theres a good amount of people running big with restoration shots rn, so careful with the maths

[shrewd hemlock]

when it first dropped it could wallbang people with the aoe and they had to remove that

[urban steppe]

😾

[brisk ruin]

That would be insane not going to lie

[remote moss]

im just sayin', im abusing that shit

lol

[urban steppe]

😼

[shrewd hemlock]

yeah it was nuts everyone had an uppercut with fanning with explosive rounds it was ww2 all over the place

[rapid crystal]

hope pocket red barrel is true

[hazy crest]

Might have been before my time

[remote moss]

itd be hilarious, its better if it was a preplaced barrel you could move though

thats probably how its designed

[rapid crystal]

it's the thing i'm most hyped about

[brisk ruin]

So homestead 78 long barrel rival...that's going to be intresting if they add that after event.

[rapid crystal]

so i hope it's a real deal

[remote moss]

itd be damn funny setting up barrels at a boss compound after clearing the mini spiders

[brisk ruin]

the 1 thing that kept rival back from a full length is that it was mid length meaning it could 1 tap up to 12-13 meters slug long barrel would be 15

[urban steppe]

melee somone to death with it

[urban steppe]

the romero didn't need to take any more Ls
first they buffed the spectre
now they give the rival TWO fast firing romero barrels

[shrewd hemlock]

they should make a more expensive trap kit that has longer wire

[hazy crest]

Why? We already have the better barrel

[rapid crystal]

after they skip couple of those that you set begore

[urban steppe]

I think it be funny if you could explode if you ran into a fire holding it

[rapid crystal]

"you will die to my barrel one way or another"

[shrewd hemlock]

like maybe you get only one or two traps but you can set a point a to point b and make it have a longer wire

or something

[urban steppe]

ong, I used to beat people to death with my ammo box if I was melee pushing

this was the time before the throwing spear
cause now if you try that, you get 1 tapped by a point blank toss

[remote moss]

aw come on, its horrible enough as is

[shrewd hemlock]

would be good for outdoor barrel trapping

[brisk ruin]

To be fair the advantage of a romero is 2 ammo types + it's super cheap, also when it comes to spread romero is tightest so from a buck perspective you would be better off with it if going for a 1 tap.

[remote moss]

its good enough rn, not too oppressive in compounds even if they set up smart corner traps inside

[rapid crystal]

or pennyshot

[remote moss]

a longer one would be obnoxious, not broken but more annoying

[shrewd hemlock]

yeah but like think about it, if its TOO long then u wouldnt get killed if ur not close enough to the barrel

but like areas like when you have the yellow barrels by the sliding gates u can set up good on

stuff like that

[rapid crystal]

comically long one

[brisk ruin]

Don't get me wrong though I am still not happy about spec buff

[urban steppe]

I'd say the tightness of the romero is irrelevant in this case

because the rival has the fastest followup shot speed out of the shotguns (I think it might be identical with the crown)

sure, the romero has the longer 1 tap range
but you can easily kill people from a further distance with the rival by unloading both barrels in roughly the same amount of time

[rapid crystal]

original ones are too obvious and predictable

[remote moss]

nonsense, watch them make it so the tripwire does 1 dmg so you die to sparks, lol

and uhhh yeah thats a good idea for barrels instead of just prepopping them

[urban steppe]

Eg if the romero can 1 tap guys up to 15m in the torso and the rival can only up to 12-13

you can defo kill further than 15m with the extended rival if you unload both barrels

making it far stronger than the base rival AND romero

[remote moss]

get them out of position real quick

[remote moss]

its good, good players need to land two precise body taps for that longer reach, but its not as usable or competitive once your positioning is bad and the gap is closed

[brisk ruin]

I don't know I still think romero has it's place even in the shorty form as a shotgun with more utility to it, still I love spec it didn't need buffing and im so so with rival I feel it didn't need a buff either it has it's place.

[remote moss]

you already get two tapped by obnoxious slug spam from slate or C&K

rival slugs is underwhelming but harder with the recoil and less room for error, rival buckshot is sick

they were everywhere during the super quartermaster last event

some bad player would miss 9/10 shots with their long ammo then swap to slugs once you closed the gap

i saw like 2 buckshot at best

your server is weird

[urban steppe]

the romero more or less doesn't have a place in the game anymore

it used to have a niche when the other shotguns couldn't compete with its range

post ROF and buckshot spread buff
the shotguns that can't 1 tap as far can make up for it with their ability to get off a followup shot much faster

[remote moss]

america

lies

east

west is filled with weird players

[shrewd hemlock]

slugs are in a place where they are on the fence of being too op and not strong enough they can one shot at 15m which is only 3m more than buckshot at 12m which makes no sense imo

[remote moss]

i have no words for them

skill issue

[shrewd hemlock]

like why does my brick of lead only kill 3m more than the buckshot

[rapid crystal]

romero talon is ultimate shotgun change my mind

[remote moss]

so compounds dont become unwinnable 20m one tap games

[south shore]

Next Hunt collab!

[brisk ruin]

To be fair as much as I like bow I would argue it's a bit stronger in this case likewise for crossbow once you learn to aim them or with bow get comfrable in hipfire (quite accurate actully)

[urban steppe]

it isn't even worth running slugs at that point
you are far better off using the bow with hundred hands imo

[rapid crystal]

my mistake

[shrewd hemlock]

yesterday i got one shot by a bow to the groin

i get it

[urban steppe]

a bow shot to the torso with hundred hands quite literally out performs slugs

[rapid crystal]

just used mako claw recently

[shrewd hemlock]

i need my d in the bayou

[urban steppe]

that and the fact the bow applies bleed
so even if you don't 1 tap, you put them on a timer to act

[brisk ruin]

This, the real advantage shotguns have is follow up shots - romero as previously mentioned.

[turbid dock]

If some redneck with a rival could one shot me and a teammate at any longer ranges i would be very sad

[frigid ibex]

you shall not pass?

[shrewd hemlock]

when the post malone event was going on and they had that perk that u could pull the arrow out with darksight so even if u shot them in the arm u could just rip it out for the remaining damage for the kill

[urban steppe]

which makes it all the better
as the range where the romero is able to 1 tap further than the other shotguns is so minimal nowadays

[shrewd hemlock]

that gave me aids and cancer

at the same time

[rapid crystal]

whenever i use bow enemies don't give an F if i'm beyond 5 meters.... some black magic i believe

[urban steppe]

even after the event
the bow is still the stronger choice for 1 tapping

[shrewd hemlock]

hunt bowdown

[brisk ruin]

I almost wonder if they should buff alemos reload speed and lean more heavly into the untility side for base varient.

[urban steppe]

oh yeah the alamo got completely forgotten lool

[urban steppe]

😿

[remote moss]

never forget, remember the alamo

[rapid crystal]

hun bowdown was funnier

[shrewd hemlock]

between bow and arrows being stronger then bullets including bricks of lead from a shotgun, and konu explosive artillery

yet people are worried about giving slugs an extra 3 meters of killing distance

at least i have to ads to hit something with a slug

[remote moss]

listen man, 18m is an insane amount of range

[shrewd hemlock]

bows just hip fire and kill

[turbid dock]

Arrows being as deadly or even deadlier than a bullet isn't particularly far fetched from a realism perspective

[brisk ruin]

Was my favorit shotgun when I was new then I fell in love with the trench gun (aka slate) used it along side specter...now it's all spec because of the buff.

[remote moss]

if i could one tap at that range, most compound engagements turn into stalematey bullshit

[urban steppe]

yeah I don't understand why they refuse to nerf the bow into the ground

the bow shoots faster than most shotguns
can 1 tap further than most slugs, especially with hundred hands

annnnnnd it is silent LOL

[remote moss]

even worse than before

[urban steppe]

don't forget the bow is a 2 slotter btw

with a further 1 tap range than 3 slot shotguns

[remote moss]

cause you cant quickpeek or jumppeek with it mostly

its very good corner camper like a shotgun rat though

[raven totem]

and you can bait it

[shrewd hemlock]

bow will one tap u in the weiner

its not fair

meanwhile this

[urban steppe]

you don't need to quickpeek or jumppeek with it
you just switch to frag arrow and bounce it off a wall/floor

[brisk ruin]

all il say is hipfire with the bow it's deadly accurate

[shrewd hemlock]

6m

thru wall

go f myself

[urban steppe]

yeah LOL

the bow quite literally has no downsides

[brisk ruin]

.....as a shotgun main (and medium ammo) this hurts so badly

[remote moss]

listen here, frag bow is toxic and it should not be used

[rapid crystal]

slugs allow you to compete against rifles at range while keeping ability to one tap . isn't it enough?

[remote moss]

i dont know which mf thought itd be good balancing to make it impossible to escape once the frag lands near your feet but its dumb as hell

[urban steppe]

yeah, the bow really has no downsides

[turbid dock]

Frag bow is completely fine, blame ammo boxes

[remote moss]

dauntless is bahhh

[remote moss]

i would, but i like having 100 fmj compact shots

[shrewd hemlock]

but bows

[urban steppe]

frag arrows more or less gets rid of the inability to fast peek if you are smart enough to bounce the arrows

[turbid dock]

Hah

[remote moss]

nesver really thought about how broken fmj winnie swift is

[grave rose]

i found this funny is all

[urban steppe]

LOL

[raven totem]

it's really not though

[brisk ruin]

Not so much anymore I used to fight rifle men at 30 40 meters with slugs before deviation was added it's not as viable as it was.

[remote moss]

most fights are in compounds, most fights involve wallbangs, levering rof competes against shotguns especially when you can wallbang while they try to peek

swift levering, infinite ammo, little downtime

and the consistent two taps??

[rustic oyster]

I mourn good random names

[remote moss]

maybe a wallbang to limb doesnt deal enough dmg but its consistent

[urban steppe]

it is because of how many kills I've gotten via fishing through walls with levering

no joke I just hold down m1 and drag my mouse horizontally across a wall

[raven totem]

the feeling of being winnie fmj when facing lon in the woods

[turbid dock]

I frankly hate the slug deviation + guaranteed OHK headshots. I think slugs specifically should return to being perfectly accurate with soft headshots

[urban steppe]

and wait until I get a hitmarker

then it is gg wp

[rapid crystal]

i never had good experience with those as i stated before ( it feels like each time i hit enemy at more than 10 meters they just casually brush off the consequence even if it's a torso hit

[urban steppe]

it doesn't because of deviation

[brisk ruin]

This it took good aim to get slug kills at range even more so because the ironsights for most shottys where not desinged for it.

[raven totem]

wat

[brisk ruin]

40-50 meters

[rapid crystal]

it's the question of having an option and not having it while keeping the benefits

[urban steppe]

I just aimed center mass with a rival and prayed both shots hit to 2 tap 😆

[remote moss]

hs spam hs spam hs spam

or you know, running away cause im too afraid to fight

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/i-wouldnt-be-opposed-to-shootin-something-hunting-lets-hunt-sportsman-beau-bennett-gif-15075126

@raven totem

[raven totem]

lets run it

[rustic oyster]

Rival go BR--?

BR--

[brisk ruin]

you know what I do miss though? 80 meter headshots with a base pax fmj....man bullet drop was good for somethings but really sucks for others.

[urban steppe]

bullet drop was a mistake
your sidearms are now all worthless

medium slot meta

[turbid dock]

1. Shooting a slug at long range and missing because of deviation RNG feels awful

2. shooting a slug at long range and getting a headshot OHK because of deviation RNG feels cheap and undeserved

3. getting killed by a slug headshot at long range thanks to deviation RNG is annoying and makes it feel like playing outside of the shotgun's range didn't help

[urban steppe]

in the past, you could at least compete with rifles with your pistol by aiming for the head

now you gotta what

aim 3 feet above their head

[rapid crystal]

dont's even recall last time i met a slug user

[shrewd hemlock]

The best part about this was how the guys poison shot was a 180 head shot thru the cracks of the fence

[brisk ruin]

Yeah I still run pistol for fun but honestly if I am going shotty as main cent is secondry and if it's a rifle then a shotgun for secondry is best, I still use new army/officer though.

[urban steppe]

pistols are all meme tier now sadly
same with their stocked variants

[rustic oyster]

wouldn't even be mad

[turbid dock]

This is good, ranged fighting should be less viable because closer range fights make you engage with all of the game's systems. Drop accomplishes that very well, they just need to take the next step and eliminate quartermaster to stop the 3+2 meta

[urban steppe]

any sawn off lever gun will out perform a pistol

[rustic oyster]

born match is a future space laser canon

[remote moss]

ehhh except for match surprisingly

if you can get past bad visibility, shit will out hs most long ammo rats

[urban steppe]

its a 2 slotter

doesn't count

😼

[urban steppe]

yeah

[remote moss]

stocked pistols dont count??

[drifting eagle]

hello,where can i subbmit a bug report? :))

[remote moss]

in #bug-reports-pc

[rustic oyster]

STOCKED VARIANTS

[drifting eagle]

thanks hunter

[rapid crystal]

recently shot over the fence and poison bullet hit an invisible pigeon or something sitting on top of it. couple of games before got killed with poison ammo through tiniest gap possible. hunt at its finest

[shrewd hemlock]

Why i like the lemat with fmj and fanning with its 9 bullet chamber

[urban steppe]

yes 😼

[rustic oyster]

GET OUT OF HERE WITH THAT GARBAGE

[urban steppe]

before the shafted ammo stacking on dual pistols

I used to run lemat carbine with dual lemats

unstoppable cqc loadout

[rustic oyster]

i need to be able to shoot 80 times in a match

[brisk ruin]

15 to 30 ish meters is where im happy to have a new army or an officer over a shotgun but honestly shotty is better and I hate that fact despite being a shotgun guy.

[shrewd hemlock]

Plus I get to put slugs in it for a few more slug rounds cause without it the amount of ammo u get for a shotgun with slugs is pathetic

[urban steppe]

when I was pushing, I used to unload all 18 lemat shots from my dualies to suppress windows

switch into shotgun mode when indoors

[rustic oyster]

dualies, unstoppable

[urban steppe]

and use the main lemat rifle

[rustic oyster]

aka the rng build

[urban steppe]

the dual lemat shotgun was the panic option

😆

[brisk ruin]

Lemat stands on it's own it's a good gun for a compact

[turbid dock]

Still works, just gotta bring an ammo box or two

[rapid crystal]

dual pax is surprisingly good

[turbid dock]

God i love the lemat carbine

[urban steppe]

it didn't matter if I hit or not
it was moreover to keep guys from fastpeeking windows when I was pushing

[rustic oyster]

the marathon with fmj out performs all dualies

[urban steppe]

yeah, shooting enough times at a window tends to stop guys from fastpeeking

[rustic oyster]

and marathon has a swift variant

[urban steppe]

as long as you aren't going in guns blazing, people will think its a single lemat hitting them in ads

instead of innaccurate rng spam

[brisk ruin]

Normally go lemat carbine with mini crossbow normal and fire or with a melee weapon since lemat can fight by itself, or pair with pistol for more ammo.

[urban steppe]

if they know its just dualy spam
they won't be afraid to peek

[rustic oyster]

scotts swift fanning is king pistol BS

[rapid crystal]

2 chain pistols with fanning for the win

[urban steppe]

it has dookie accuracy
but when you die to it, you feel cheated because you know damn well this guy was mag dumping

[turbid dock]

I like lemat c + melee

[rustic oyster]

so much sadness on that fanning rate

[turbid dock]

Big fan

[urban steppe]

oh this
I used to go lemat carbine and katana

[rapid crystal]

hm?

[urban steppe]

dbreath on the shotgun slot

[brisk ruin]

Fair I mainly go with minicross just so I can remove flare gun and throwing knifes/axes/spears so I can use 2 trap slots or some other trickey.

[turbid dock]

Smart

[urban steppe]

the big brain is to take breath on the carbine

dbreath

lemat carbine alr has garbage 1 tap range with the shotty

[rare wyvern]

has restoration always affected downed teammates?

[urban steppe]

mightaswell use it for utility

[turbid dock]

Starshell lemat c is kind of a funny flare gun replacmenet

[urban steppe]

I prefer dbreath because you can use the shotgun round as a "support" option in a team fight

by lighting guys on fire who are occupied with shooting your randoms

you only need to land 2 of the pellets to light someone nowadays

if they don't have salveskin

force someone to press F in a bad situation

to stop the burn

that

and the fact you can fastpeek someone with it and burn off a chunk in close range 😆

[brisk ruin]

I tested it it's a single shot rival in terms of range as for slug it's 13m they buffed it to count as a medium pistol is 10-9m with slug if I recall

[crystal bay]

Dbreath has more utility I’d say

Burn bodies and also for other stuff

It’s nice

[urban steppe]

^

[urban steppe]

you get far more mileage out of it than buckshot with it imo

if you are gonna fastpeek guys with it
1 good hit = they are down a bar and in 1 tap zone for the rest of the fight

vs not 1 tapping them with buck and having them heal it all back in a jiffy

[crystal bay]

I’d say buckshot is pretty good on it and if that’s my close range option I’d do buck

[remote moss]

buck advantage is still that you can aimpunch with good timing

thats about it

if you need to gamble and survive, even a non kill can save your ass against shotty or semi autos

[turbid dock]

The AHA doesn't want you to know this, but being set on fire is actually beneficial. Since it makes enemies expect you to hide and stop it, you can just go crazy style on them instead

[urban steppe]

yeah
but in every other scenario, being able to interrupt guys by setting them on fire is absurd

[remote moss]

fire is absurd and annoying, yes

[crystal bay]

But breath for util is great

[brisk ruin]

Fight the pain fight the hunters!

[remote moss]

not to mention the lighting bugs so you can wallbang them easily

[urban steppe]

shhh

don't say the quiet part outloud

[remote moss]

but i want to

its revenge for everyone that says that bornheim is a good gun

[urban steppe]

when I have spud aim, but I know I can contribute to the team fight by forcing someone to hold F