lore-discussion

[rotund ferry]

Ah that’s fucked

[celest notch]

then why this ding ding ding

[rotund ferry]

Sooooo basically they go through unimaginable pain only to figure out “lmao boss isn’t here”

I’m very glad that Hunters don’t scream in agony when collecting clues for gameplay purposes

[celest notch]

collecting the clue is already loud af anyway

[warm skiff]

imagine

[slate apex]

But they literally become addicted to the pain so whatever

[icy brook]

I’d assume after the samurai loss of the Satsuma Rebellion he just decided to hell with it and became a hunter

[lethal holly]

Whatcha telling me is. They're masochist. And sadists.

man.

Oh man.

[slate apex]

I guess idfk

[celest notch]

Yes, just like hunt players

[lethal holly]

Makes sense

I wonder if they'll ever add lynch as a legendary hunter..

Or maybe a event involving lynch

[celest notch]

Who dat

[lethal holly]

.

The girl who killed The AHA director

[celest notch]

ª

[lethal holly]

Hazmat did a entire two episodes on her

[celest notch]

I gotta finish his videos

[lethal holly]

https://youtu.be/lasZR3y4qUU

It's good better you watch it when u got time

[lethal holly]

Yea you should

His story telling is great and surpringly he's active here

Love the man, hes quite nice

Cuz usually the saying "never meet your heros" is one I usually stick to

[celest notch]

While I love the lore of this game, I love his voice more

[lethal holly]

Yea!

[azure galleon]

i show all the homies HazmatFTW

[upbeat kiln]

The community in this game might seriously be the greatest ever :)) Thank you for your support, guys.

[warm skiff]

Yooo the lore man is here!

Thanks for the awesome narrations!

[azure galleon]

what my friend had to say after watching a few

[noble scarab]

So the new dlc man is a former army soldier who left the army to go fight the corruption in the bayou

[warm skiff]

the name "Hunt: Showdown" kinda implies to me that there will be more games in the "Hunt:" series

[noble scarab]

Which is really good to see. Because damn if we don’t have 5 or more guys that are just psychos or are just hunting one guy or something

[warm skiff]

do we have visuals of him? or is it just datamined stuff

[noble scarab]

It’s up the steam pages now^

[warm skiff]

oooh

looking cool

but yeah same I'm glad they're deviating from the edgelords

[azure galleon]

that do be the case..i have high hopes for it, hopefully a co-op story based game comes along soon enough for more lore!

[noble scarab]

The other American army related Hunters are: the prodigal daughter, and the turncoat

[azure galleon]

some recruited hunters have Civil War uniforms on too

[warm skiff]

that would honestly be so cool

[upbeat kiln]

omg :))

[azure galleon]

ive always though of like, a fallout New Vegas kinda game where each gang is a hunt faction, and you can choose the fate of the bayou too

[upbeat kiln]

That sounds friggin AWESOME!

[warm skiff]

A different place like California might be an interesting space to explore in as well

if said corruption decides to spread elsewhere

[azure galleon]

yeah, 5 years in, how has the corruption spread throught the country

if at all

[noble scarab]

It hasn’t so much spread, but similar issues pop up in other places from time to time

NY had an outbreak of grunts in 1894

[azure galleon]

so maybe a whole new incident starts, and surviving hunters from the bayou go to the new location, and a whole new game and experience ensues

[noble scarab]

The cascades had a similar issue that the natives dealt with

[azure galleon]

so much potential

[noble scarab]

Then the corruption in the bayou first started in 1723 or so with some grunts and disease

There are different branches or chapters of the AHA, it’s just the Louisiana one that’s fucked

[azure galleon]

right, the AHA came to the bayou to help/fix things

[noble scarab]

Which also begs the question as to why we don’t see more Hunters from other chapters come in, or why their officials haven’t stepped in

[noble scarab]

Huff was shit at his job and didn’t really believe it was an issue, he may have even experimented with it to make it worse

[azure galleon]

he was definitely on a "how can i make money from this" kick rather than actually trying to help

[noble scarab]

It’s help a lot context wise if we knew who finally killed him

Either Lynch or Caldwell

[upbeat kiln]

Who do you think? The author of BATS isn't exactly reliable

though it's a pretty cool story

[noble scarab]

I think Lynch had a hand in it somehow

[azure galleon]

the Lynch direction makes sense, although her direct hand in it may not be so

[noble scarab]

But probably Caldwell was the one to actually pull the trigger

We need more lore Crytek

The pieces on pelican were cool, but give us more context or more character driven narratives

[upbeat kiln]

I really liked that too

I can't wait for @earnest jungle to dive deep into those and tell me the meaning of life from a sentence I read wrong 😄

The reading between the lines is what makes this channel so good :))

[earnest jungle]

The thing that has me curious is yo what extent the Warden of Pelican Rock knew what was happening.

[noble scarab]

Are we able to find a basement in Pelican in game? Or is it referring to the destroyed lower floors?

[earnest jungle]

I don’t think we can access the basement in Pelican Island

[noble scarab]

Yea I’m sure of that, but I wasn’t sure if there was a blocked stairway or a trapdoor or something that could in theory/lore lead to the basement

There is a cave that runs under the place, with a creek through it

[earnest jungle]

I think we can safely say though that despite Jabez relationship with Huff and the East Louisiana State Hospital he had no idea the true purpose of his experiments or the evil he was calling down (or perhaps up) on DeSalle.

Perhaps this was intentional: Jabez can’t reveal what he doesn’t know. This would indicate that knowledge of the Louisiana Incident was on a Need to Know Basis in 1893 and Jabez didn’t need to know.

We can further assume that this was for once a wise decision on the part of Huff, though the Researcher Notes he was always good at covering his own tracks.

[noble scarab]

The earliest mentions we have of weird modern occurrences started in 1894 though

Minus the stuff with the Assassin in 1890

[earnest jungle]

Modern is a relative thing, some lore imply grunts go back all the way to the early 1800s.

[noble scarab]

The grunts/cannibals in 1720something

All the way in Blanchett

[earnest jungle]

The conclusion I’ve come to is that this outbreak has been going on for a while Grunts have been around almost forever and Hives have been around since the late 1880s-early 1890s.

What really changed was that in 1894/95 the boss monsters started showing up.

[noble scarab]

Would the corruption/plague have ramped up then too?

[earnest jungle]

That’s my belief

[azure galleon]

yeah at that point the sculptor had to really start "defending" the rifts

hence husks and other monsters showing up, and increasing in number

[earnest jungle]

My belief is that the Corruption expanded exponentially.

[noble scarab]

going back to pelican real quick, this is the underground section, though obviously in game it doesnt go anywhere

[azure galleon]

thats probably the entrance to the basement

but its walled for obvious reasons

[noble scarab]

there is also this area that is quite literally choked with bodies

and you can see tunnels leading off behind

[rotund ferry]

Oh also

Is there any concrete thing that says the game takes place in 1895

Or can we assume it’s somewhere in the ballpark of like 1900 or something like that

[earnest jungle]

All of trailers place the game in 1895

For example the launch Trailer begins with

[noble scarab]

each map is set in a different season in 1895

going from spring to summer to fall

[earnest jungle]

Theoretically because of that we could actually have a snow map set in February of 1895 because of that.

As for why the basement is sealed off I have two theories: the investigators did it to ensure the crime-scene couldn’t be tampered with, or the Hunters did it to seal off the Basement because there was bad mojo down there.

The New Army Mastery reveals that sometime before DeSalle Fell word finally got out what was happening in the Basement of Pelican Rock Prison and an investigation was conducted.

It’s possible investigators sealed off the basement to protect the integrity of the crime scene.

Alternatively Hunters could have done it because the basement was like a lightning rod for the sculptor and the whole place was saturated with the dark energies of the sculptors realm.

This is also why I say it was smart for Huff to keep Jabez in the dark about the Outbreak. He knew there was a chance the Basement experiments could be leaked and so he made sure that leak would not expose the AHA.

[azure galleon]

it doesnt really snow in Louisiana

[earnest jungle]

But it did in 1895 and that’s a historical fact

[azure galleon]

oh damn, 8 inches worth, too

[noble scarab]

The Lebel entry also notes that Pearl Plantation has had weird things going on well before the incident

so its very possible that Desalle is just especially cursed

Its still an interesting note that the Redneck's bio calls Desalle "long thought corrupted"

On an unrelated note there is a trailer on Hunt's steam page that is newer, and it depicts a group of Hunters burying another Hunter alive, before being interrupted by another group, who save the dude in the coffin.

Its just kinda neat that you can find the spot where that happened

[chrome oracle]

Has anyone found this before?

[noble scarab]

He’s been chilling there since Desalle was released. Rip gator bro

[rotund ferry]

I wish this wasn’t like a throwaway thing

I wonder why they were burying that dude alive

Doesn’t make much sense to me

[noble scarab]

They’re Hunters, do they really need a reason to murder someone?

[rotund ferry]

I mean

I like to think they have at least some reason

[earnest jungle]

Given they were burying him alive they were probably just for the sadistic fun of it.

[upbeat kiln]

Does sound like a good time

[light summit]

Cain runs around naked burying a dude for fun isn't the craziest thing

[unique heron]

there's a theory that i hope is true that it's going to be a mechanic. drag a corpse of a dead hunter to x location for y prize and the hunter would die die ... would discourage instaburning and have the same effect

[next terrace]

Could have been just vengeance for an unspeakable crime, that got interrupted by know-nothing meddlers too

[light summit]

That’d be cool tho. Maybe you can drag/carry them while holding a one slot weapon. Toss their ass into a coffin

[opaque glade]

unsure if this would count as lore but the choke bombs take like all of the oxygen out of an area so the fire just fucks off, right?

[noble scarab]

More or less, it detonates and then a gas comes out (may or may not be gaseous asbestos) and somehow the gas displaces the O2 in the immediate area

[vernal stag]

It very rarely snows in Louisiana, so that's off the table haha

[earnest jungle]

How many times am I going to have to repeat myself?

In February of 1895 there was a Blizzard across the Northern Gulf Coast of Mexico

New Orleans got Eight Inches of Snow alone in this storm

[small abyss]

Actually it snowed here pretty hard couple years ago 😆

South la here

[vernal stag]

Alright, I didn't catch up with the rest of the discussion

[lethal holly]

Wasn't the revinant the guy who got saved

[lethal holly]

SNOW MAP SNOW MAP SNOW MAP SNOW MAP SNOW MAP

[earnest jungle]

They even mention the Blizzard in the Lore for the Veterli so they devs are aware.

[noble scarab]

that was just a tier 1, revenant man was rez'd by the voodoo folks

[lethal holly]

You sure they rez'd him-? I thought he came across his own body first and kinda woke up from some voices kr something as a reviant

[noble scarab]

His lore said it was the Night Speaker, but when in the Dark Sight trailer we see him get pulled from the groud by the Bone doc

So maybe both I guess?

[lethal holly]

. Maybe he was buried again-?

He was seen with Isham before bone doc tho

I think

[noble scarab]

His release trailer was with Isham

[void forge]

does anyone do audio readings of the in-game lore?(weapons stuffs)

[celest notch]

Hazmat has really damn good videos

[lethal holly]

He hasn't done any gun stuff tho

I think.

I should check but I'm busy dying

[celest notch]

Oh right they specified guns

[void forge]

Don't get me wrong , I enjoy reading and whatnot but I usually end up enthralled in playing more than reading lol

[celest notch]

Idk about the guns part, just the regular hunt lore

[void forge]

I appreciate your answer!

[slate apex]

What sort of “weird things”

[slate apex]

It’s kinda weird tho
The average person can only survive for 1 hour in the bayou even with the serum made by lynch

And it looks to me like they were there for hours

[noble scarab]

The entry doesn’t say, but I’d assume it’s haunted or had something horrific happen

[noble scarab]

So it’s weird, sometimes Hunters just live in the Hunting grounds, ie Glanton and sometimes they have to obey the hour rule. Id guess that it has something to do with the presence of bosses. When there’s a boss in the area, the grounds are more corrupting or something like that

[slate apex]

I mean it was a plantation house
Maybe something messed up involving slavery

[slate apex]

Maybe

I would say that’s likely

[noble scarab]

Harold black is also the only one to mention this idea, aside from the in game timer. So it’s possible that he could be misinformed

[slate apex]

I mean it’s close to where the early 1800s Louisiana slave revolt happened

[noble scarab]

From the bow entry people were still kinda buying slaves up until 1895 in the area

[slate apex]

Jesus, how?

[noble scarab]

I’d have to reread the entry, but a man had bought an African American lady as a child and raised her to be a Hunter, then when he got bored with her, he left her for dead in the bayou

It was a cousin or relation of the Phantom, that did it, a Leroux

I did not spell that right, edit-nope Leroux is right actually

[slate apex]

I mean
He likely bought her prior to the abolition of slavery if he bought her as a child
Then kept her set and captive post abolition due to the relatively “excluded” nature of the bayou

[lethal holly]

Some people are naturally immune to the evil and can survive days hell some still live in the bayous as kids, and what not have lived there when their parents died

[slate apex]

Cough cough the kid in chary’s story

[noble scarab]

We don’t know where that happened tho, it could’ve been someone entirely untouched by the corruption

ie, in Jackson, where the head office of the AHA is

Or outside of New Orleans, which isn’t fully corrupted yet

[slate apex]

Soooo do you guys actually believe that the Louisiana incident started in 1894
Or do you think it coulda actually have been happening and slowly starting for years and years before 1895

[noble scarab]

I’m inclined to agree with Rexli that things had been happening for years but it really kicked off in 1894

[slate apex]

Yea

Likely

The assassin first appears around 1890

[noble scarab]

The assassin is a whole other bag of literal worms

[slate apex]

Not worms
Cockroaches

[noble scarab]

That’s fair lol

[slate apex]

Heh cockroaches

[noble scarab]

But he existed before the other bosses and before the Sculptor had made much headway into the world

So i wouldn’t wonder if he’s an entity that was just co-opted by the Sculptor

[lethal holly]

Isham's church group felt ot coming though, they said it was coming well before signs showed it was there so maybe?

I mean out jn the bayou is a quiet and in of the butt fuck nowhere so

It's a possibility it was there before 1894 just no one noticed it was growing

[icy brook]

Based on the state of properties, the prevalence of witch’s bridles on grunts, and oddities like horses slaughtered in homes, the subtle corruption has been going on well before 1894

[lethal holly]

Ywp

Yeep

[icy brook]

I think 95-96 was just the pinnacle of infection

[lethal holly]

Yea

When the infection grew strong enough to get people

But also some grunts have metal peices all over them.

Like the metal basket things on their heads

I'm surprised there isn't a prisoner escapee boss

[icy brook]

Yeah that is the witch’s bridle I was referring to

[lethal holly]

Idfk what witch's bridle is but ima nod anyway

[icy brook]

They are the cages on some grunt’s heads

[lethal holly]

Aaaa

[slate apex]

What’s it for?

[lethal holly]

There are bodies that are chained up and have a fuckin' giant railroad spike through the heart/chest and burned so-

Maybe another Salem situation with people doing what most movie like cults do

[icy brook]

It’s basically a human muzzle so the wearer can’t bite or really vocalize

[slate apex]

Okay then

[lethal holly]

. I guess some people did that to experiment on them or sumting

Ya know alotta bodies have died in weird ways

[icy brook]

They are also used in the slave trade in America

[lethal holly]

As I said before the chained up to a rock edge burned and having a giant nail tjroigg the chest

OR bodies hung by chains or what not

Alotta weird stuff tbh

[lethal holly]

Fair

[light summit]

In some of the stories I’ve been given the impression stuffs been going bad for a while. The story of the hive where that girls mom turns into one it seems the bugs have been going nuts for a while

She was like 12 when she lost her mom to being a hive, if she became a hunter at like 16 to fight in 1895 than it had been going on at least since like 1891

[icy brook]

^

The mental spiral of Salter makes me think the same

[rotund ferry]

Did Black Coat forget to drink his OJ

And that’s why he painted his nails black

[bold tiger]

Whats the other lore piece that has the guard make the prisoner laugh

I remember reading it at some point, from the prespective of the warden

I mean the one that isn't the new army

[celest notch]

Crytek, if you're reading this, give me lynch dlc pls

😔

[next terrace]

She's so key to the lore so far, I feel like that should be a whole event. I don't think we should ever get to play as the various "leaders" though, or the Twins, because it makes them less "special". I'm probably in the minority on that though.

[celest notch]

I just want her in the Game, idc if it's event, dlc or w.e

She's so cool

[coral niche]

Still trying to figure out what the "GM" written on the bandaged hand of 'The Kid' skin stands for.

I know he named his guns after his siblings, so that was my first guess.

[jolly helm]

I second this

[versed wedge]

Where did Mr Charry come from? Seems like a few months ago he wasn't in any of the lore and suddenly now he runs the place and is calling for blood sacrifices. Also what happened during traitors moon that involved Orwell?

[noble scarab]

We don’t know, it was random and ultimately inconsequential, because he fucked off from the position almost immediately. During the event he was out trying to do rituals to create powerful magic weapons by somehow harming the moon and burning Hunters alive. At some point a kid called Kevin got sick of him immolating people outside of his house so he rolled up on him with his own moon gun and forced Chary to flee

The doc with the event stuff is almost pinned here somewhere

[versed wedge]

Charry and Orwell are different people right? Charry's the President of the AHA last I checked

[noble scarab]

They’re the same person

Orwell Chary

[versed wedge]

Ah, I read the doc now and he's the administrator of AHA out to do funny occult things to supposedly stop the scourge.

I think he's either an extremist like lynch or a double agent for the Sculptor or a third party demon jumping in for funsies

Hmm, poor Kevin's gonna either be a new hunter or a boss with a flaming gun under the Moon's blessings

[atomic yoke]

yo can someone explain me scrapbeak's summary/origin?

[celest notch]

https://youtu.be/UE0CJIeJXU0

[lethal holly]

Kevin should be a dlc character

[celest notch]

lynch first 😠

[upbeat kiln]

I kinda hated the idea of having Lynch as a DLC character in the beginning - but now thinking about - according to BATS, she might be the single only legendary hunter in the game that would make sense, in terms of the lore at least, to see over and over again.

[noble scarab]

IMO he’s a reverse Lynch, a human that wants to become one of these entities

[upbeat kiln]

I think you're absolutely right :))

[noble scarab]

If Crytek ever did a single player or coop thing for Hunt the Twins and Lynch would make amazing protagonists

[upbeat kiln]

better than Redshirt? Come on Tib 😄

[noble scarab]

Very true, but I might also suggest the Redneck

[upbeat kiln]

Moses Tower Defense - Part 1: "Don't ya touch mah chickens"

[bold tangle]

Was the prodigal daughters mother working for the confederacy or the union because she has a union outfit yet to me it doesn’t make since if she was a spy working for the union

[noble scarab]

she was in the Union

[lethal holly]

I'm surprised there's no double barrel shotgun.

The nitro doesn't count.

[noble scarab]

the caldwell rival is a double barrel?

[light summit]

I think if they did do a single player I’d prefer a nameless hunter tbh

Not a ‘fresh out the box’ new one but just some nameless fuck

[drowsy canopy]

A Hunt Showdown game would be interesting, I remember seeing all three Hunt Maps pinned onto the RDR2 map in a single landmass and thinking... "I wonder what Hunt would be like if we could walk across a landmass as big as Red Dead 2 by ourselves without worrying about Bush and window wookies along every sightline

[lethal holly]

OH YEAAA

My brain is ded

[lethal holly]

I ment a more classic one the long barreled ones I mean

[light summit]

Thought the rival had a decent barrel on it

[lethal holly]

No I ment like

[lethal holly]

Long.

Ramero long.

[light summit]

Ah well. Romero having not ass range is kinda it's thing.

To have 'The romero but with two shots' kinda shits all over the Romero

[vagrant adder]

Double slugs with better range sheesh

[lethal holly]

The reason i say this is cuz the 1800s double barrel shotgun was mostly long barreled and was used for hunting

Shotguns like the rival were more bar and tavern guns-

Cuz.

Yes.

Ya know I hate it when games make shotguns ranges seem like it just becomes an airsoft bb at longer distances

[light summit]

Romero has some decent range on it

[unkempt aspen]

so the scrapbeak was no grunt but a wounded soldier who got "modified"?

did i get that correct from the trailer?

[celest notch]

Yes

[celest notch]

Check this out

[unkempt aspen]

ty

and what abt the others tho?

[celest notch]

Those are creation from the sculptor

[unkempt aspen]

ah alr

[celest notch]

That same channel has videos on them

[unkempt aspen]

cuz i remember the spider lore being about a little girl sth sth

[celest notch]

Aktually not really

Not that I remember

[unkempt aspen]

well some hunter remembered burying a little girl, whose eyes he recognised when first encountering the spider

[unkempt aspen]

alrrrr

thanks

and what abt the assasin?

xD

ah alr

thanks a lot

[unkempt aspen]

[earnest jungle]

Not a scientists a taxadermist

[regal trout]

So did Lonely Howl kill his Father, that's why his mother and brother are chasing him down?

[regal trout]

Also for context only one of each boss can exist in the world at any given time

Once they die they get remade

[restive patrol]

yes

[regal trout]

Neat

[light summit]

Is it always the same person or is it like, someone else gets made

[regal trout]

Remade iirc

Although I'm not sure

The Sculptor is basically testing us every time he makes a new boss from what I remember

[restive patrol]

that or he needs to have something fulfill a certain role in preparation for his incursion (Spider is meant to deal with bad parts of his sculpting, butcher is meant to gather material for it, Assassin is meant to protect key areas from hunters, Scrapbeak's role is currently unknown)

[noble scarab]

Scrapbeak gathers material shit

[noble scarab]

this is true

the dude that fucked the moon on the other hand gets all the bitches

and kevin probably gets them too

[cinder plinth]

Ye

[empty owl]

i'm not sure if this belongs to lore discussion but i found that the pax that the prodigal daughter has, has quite a resemblence to the hand of god from the 2007's 3:10 to yuma

but i suppose its just due to the similarity to the grip and body of the gun

[ripe inlet]

cherry is not head of AHA. He is head of lousiana branch of AHA.

[lethal tusk]

I've been looking at alot of old guns, and I'm wondering why there are not more percussion type weapons in the bayou. I know they kinda suck compared to what is available, but being made around d the 1830-50s and now being overshadowed by standard cartridge weapons, I would think they would be cheaper and more at hand for tier 1 hunters. Also, allowing a chain fire to be a secondary fire mode would be awesome....

[light summit]

Are all of the legendary hunters apart of the association or are some of these people just showing up for the hell of it/other reasons

[slim panther]

I believe they're all part of the AHA.

[upbeat kiln]

Some are there to try and make the situation better, some are there to make the situation worse - others are just there to partake in the killing and potential gain of both wealth and power. Some came in factions and some came by themselves. Some of them are with the AHA, but some of them also oppose the AHA.

And then there's the Redneck. Who just wants to take care of his chickens.

[lethal tusk]

Moses poultry must live on

[slim panther]

Nah Redneck is with the AHA, they recruited him. The natives I'm pretty sure are with the AHA, but very loosely. I think they were already pretty much living in the bayou.

I don't remember.

[light summit]

I know the people from Asia are with the AHA as well, I think.
I think maybe one of them is just a 'demon hunter' from their lands? Which could be an Asian Hunters Association or a separate group that basically does the same

[faint delta]

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[noble scarab]

oh ok that makes more sense, so its his mother and father

rather than mother and brother

[light summit]

I hope someone plays the Lonely Howl solo one day and kills the parents in duos

[noble scarab]

i know my Hunting partner and I have done the reverse, we were the parents and killed a solo LH

[light summit]

Thematic

[earnest jungle]

The head of the Louisiana Branch is the head of the AHA. Sort of like how the Bishop of Rome is also the head of the entire Catholic Church.

[noble scarab]

Didn’t the devs make a post on Twitter about him just being over the Louisiana branch of the AHA?

And even so he’s seemingly abandoned the post after Kevin nearly killed him

[restive patrol]

ye they did, also there's the New York Branch which is mentioned occasionally in legendary descriptions or other story beats

[noble scarab]

We need more info about other chapters, we know that the NY branch is nearly finished due to a betrayal by either Huff or Lynch. Circe is probably either naturally immune, or she got the right innoculation

Could we break the AHA down into regions? Surely there’s not a chapter per each state, it’s gotta be regional. Maybe Louisiana for the south, NY for the north, and somewhere out west?

[restive patrol]

should've maybe adjusted the "Ripper" Pax claw skin's description as well since it still says "but instead was used by the son against the father in the ultimate act of betrayal." (unless this is intended and implies that in the future he kills his father still)

[restive patrol]

prob

[potent merlin]

Or he might've tried and failed to kill his father, hence why his pops is hunting him in the first place

[empty owl]

it would be interesting to see or hear about the local AHA chapter dealing with the outbreak in the mountains as detailed in the wayfarer's description

[noble scarab]

I guess the other chapters must be less incompetent than the Louisiana branch. The NY actually took care of their grunt situation, only to be fucked over by Huff or Lynch. The western chapter or natives of the region settled whatever was happening there as well.

Granted per the older lore they also said they were having trouble with a poltergeist a few years back

Must’ve been some poltergeist, either that or they just couldn’t shoot it or blow it up

[little lake]

I think it's more that he used it to try and kill his father.

[bold tangle]

is it no longer 1895 in hunt?

(or would that be the model number)

[little lake]

it'd be pretty odd if that was the year

considering that was 'assigned' to him, in-unit

which would imply he's had it for years

or at least for some time

[sharp anvil]

Was it ever stated that it was exactly 1995? Or just implied it was roughly around then

[bold tangle]

That’s true actually, forgot about that

[bold tangle]

Not sure, I was always told here that it takes place in 1895

[sharp anvil]

Ah alright

[bold tangle]

I mean i understand it is its own kind of universe but if it’s trying to be realistic based upon ours then it would make more sense as we have the frag bomb which is ww1

[sharp anvil]

Well this is kinda stupid but hunt was released 4 years ago. So if you assume 4 years ago ingame was 1994, and time has passed all the way into 1998.

[bold tangle]

plus he is black, and was in the miltary

[sharp anvil]

If that makes sense

[little lake]

the frag bomb isn't a ww1 'variant'

it's just a hunt specific explosive

[bold tangle]

True

But I think ww1 was the first time we saw a frag bomb in use

[little lake]

yeah, more or less, the first ever fragmentation explosive that saw widespread use was in ww1

but the frag bomb is... the frag bomb. its own thing

though

[little lake]

it's not really true to say this

as there's been various explosives throughout history that use 'fragmentation' as their killing method

I'd say the frag bomb is more comparable to a ketchum grenade. a civil war-era thing looking like this

[noble scarab]

timeline wise we are probably in 1896

unsure why the revolver is dated ahead, might be a manufacturing thing

[little lake]

additionally, improvised grenade-like explosives were fairly commonly put into use here and there, before this

[restive patrol]

Bet you that they copied a new army from google 1-1 and forgot to change the date to line up

[noble scarab]

I’d believe it

[next terrace]

yeah, ever since we figured out we could make stuff blow up, we've been using it as a weapon. You almost never see it in movies, but pirates made extensive use of grenade-like small bombs in boarding actions.

[little lake]

y u p, the frag bomb isn't very far-fetched

[icy brook]

He is a buffalo soldier, a member of an all black unit used during the Indian wars, it implies in his steam description he was stationed or working in the western badlands before he ended up in Louisiana

[bold tangle]

Ah, that makes sense, and this is why I’m I wouldn’t teach history

[icy brook]

All good man, I hope that didn’t come off as abrasive

[earnest sand]

Could I have a hand with making a setting based in Hunt for my DnD table?

The lore seemed really interesting and I want to see what I can do with it

[noble scarab]

Go check out Deadlands, which uses Savage Worlds. Hunt translates almost directly into it

[normal field]

Or go with Pulp Cthulhu

[keen leaf]

Roughly 10% of Union where Black mens

Don't forget that it was civil War, and they fought for their right

[earnest sand]

Never ran anything besides DnD. Not even sure how to play pulp cthulu

[earnest sand]

What is Savage Worlds?

[normal field]

Hehe, no worries. Cthulhu is amazing. The regular ruleset is deadly and pretty creepy. There is an Addon bock which makes it more action oriented. Pulp Cthulhu. If you are into Hunt and Pen and Paper, give it a try.

[earnest sand]

Huh, thanks! Any idea where I could find a discord to play it? I only run a system if I've played it a few times

[normal field]

Uhhh sorry. Always played it as a group in a room.

[earnest sand]

Fair nuff. I'm in alaska...sorta hard to find people lol

[normal field]

Oh wow. I bet. BUT I bet there are a groups online. Pretty cool that you can play online nowadays.

[earnest sand]

Ye, thanks to online I have been able to do dming. I really enjoy writing worlds and creating setting for people to explore, or adding to existing settings with my own twists.

[normal field]

Yes, thats amazing!

[earnest sand]

Where can I get some good lore for my world?

Like monsters, location, the Sculptor itself, etc

[grizzled pilot]

You can read some up in game or on wiki from the book of monsters/the book with guns(forgot the gun book name sry for that)
Or you can watch some yt channels like Liisn or HazmatFTW

Id start with either of the yt guys and read up the gun entries for more detailed lore

[earnest sand]

Thanks

[grizzled pilot]

Np

[noble scarab]

It’s a rule set, like dnd 5e or call of Cthulhu

[light summit]

Napolean had grenadiers IIRC so they've been around a while

First sentence about the game says its 1895

[noble scarab]

Each map is set in a different season of 1895, but lore wise we’re probably in early 1896

[light summit]

When are we getting the entire city of New Orleans as a map

(NGL a quarantined part of the city would be cool as fuck)

[noble scarab]

as soon as the engine can deal with it

[little lake]

'grenades' are known to have existed back around the discovery of gunpowder, and even before then, really.

[azure galleon]

Bourbon street but hunt? Post Mardi gras celebration

Like this idea

[light summit]

Bonus points if the streets are literally so full of the dead you can barely walk on them and we gotta use the rooftops to get around

[formal kestrel]

If the game could handle it that'd be dope

[icy brook]

I’m going to put this here because it pertains to the Lore of the 1866 Springfield specifically, this is a 50-70 case found in the field, unlike in game this case is drawn from copper rather than brass, it was likely deposited in association with US soldiers going up the Missouri River to fight or convene with Indians of the area

[formal kestrel]

Did they crimp the necks on those early metal cased bullets?

Doesnt look like this one was

They expand anyway tho so idk

[icy brook]

I don’t believe they did

I think they just used neck tension in those days

[formal kestrel]

Damn

[lethal tusk]

So a little late to the grenade discussion, but the first use of grenades was in 1553, in Arles, where they were made from glass globes. Then the hand morter was made.....you would light the fuse in the grenade and then shoot it from a flintlock gun...this one is from the napoleon wars.

Please add hahha

[regal trout]

1% chance it just blows up in your hand

[grizzled pilot]

More like 20%

[little lake]

Grenades existed from the beginning of the discovery of gunpowder, really.

As a species, we just love to blow shit up :D

[empty owl]

85% chance of it missfiring and dropping the load

[little lake]

explodes in your hands

[formal kestrel]

When i forgot to turn the light on for my morning shit

[hardy cargo]

Outside of the hunting grounds the world is fairly normal and/or oblivious to the reality of Louisiana right? Like word spreads, It’s Dark in New Orleans confirms that but there’s not much relating to the horrors besides something happening up in New York but I don’t remember the context of that one

[green robin]

From what I assumed based on the demon hunters from over seas, I think we can say there are sparse instances of monsters and the supernatural. The occasional possession or cryptid hunted down by other organizations or the apparent covens as we get a glimpse of when reading some of the more occult legendary hunters. Louisiana is an outbreak, a major spot for this corruption or at least the corruption of its type.

[noble scarab]

Outside the AHA and general monster hunting circles the paranormal is seemingly not well known

People seem to find the AHA via knowing someone, being recruited directly, or by having vague and unpleasant dreams and eventually ending up in the bayou

[paper lynx]

So when it comes to the supernatural of the Hunt universe is it completely original or are they basing it off of Indian/ Native legends such as skinwalkers and stuff?

[icy brook]

Some of the sprits and entities are in reference to or interpreted as figures from native oral traditions, but most of the creatures are original

[regal trout]

Yeah it's why I don't think they're gonna add stuff like a Wendigo

[noble scarab]

They could probably do something wendigo inspired

Or maybe like a more folkloric wendigo that’s made of wind or a thin skeleton

[glad verge]

where are the blood rituals mentioned, on the soldiers letters by the beds?

I remember reading about getting injected with demon blood somewhere

[noble scarab]

thats how the AHA prevents infection/corruption

[glad verge]

yes but where is it written?

🤓 umm, I'm going to need a source

[green robin]

It’s currently eluded to on the hunt showdown website with the interactable desk, you can find a syringe that contains “the blood”

[noble scarab]

Caldwell pax lore pages, Romero lore pages, and nagant lore pages

[glad verge]

thanks

[sudden hare]

I made this discussion on steam but I thought I'd run it by here too. It involves the voynich language in hunt.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/594650/discussions/8/3388408347643037836/

[noble scarab]

So far as I know Hunts language is probably based off of ( or at least takes the name of ) the Voynich manuscript which was a medieval medical tome written in an indecipherable language (though I believe it was recently translated)

[sudden hare]

Thats what I was curious about. I just wasnt sure if its supposed to be directly Voynich or "Voynich with some tweaks" which is fine.

[fringe meteor]

Why are there no alive pigs in the buyou?

[upbeat kiln]

Butcher has them all in his lair lol

[sweet peak]

Hi! I have a question

How the hell do the hunters get the bee’s in the jar to use as hive bombs

Cause like

And how are they alive?? Cause when you kill a hive

The swarm disperses

So are they out there, farming hives or something?

[noble scarab]

Hive bombs are Lynch’s invention so she might’ve figured out a way to charm them in there supernaturally

Or we also see the bee farm in Desalle, so that might just be what corrupted bees are

And the Hunters could probably just hold the jar to the hive, and give it a shake

They may also just farm Hives

[sweet peak]

fair enough, thanks bro!

[languid palm]

Do we have lore on the vitality shot?

[languid palm]

IIRC the AHA doesn't even believe that people actually use them because of the nature of the bee's ability to get through the serum that most of the hunters are using

[crystal ether]

Straight cocaine

[languid palm]

Wait for real?

We're just injecting original cherry coke into our veins

[crystal ether]

Probably not

Hmm

Could be demon blood or something

[languid palm]

I'd assume it's basically the same process as the serum but do we have any info on where they came from?

[crystal ether]

I don't know

[languid palm]

Fair enough

[noble scarab]

We can see in game that the bee bombs used to a degree, even if future researchers doubt their use

the vit shots are said to be a some form of experimental medical drug, which probably interacts with the Hunter's unnatural healing capability

[regal trout]

Actually related to this question are hive barrels like, deliberately made?

They seem intentional

[noble scarab]

they seem to be

but we really have no idea

the other barrels make sense, being oil or gasoline

[regal trout]

I wonder if the AHA is morally dark enough to keep living Hives somewhere

In like a secure facility

[noble scarab]

Huff would

Lynch isnt even human so she probably would

[solar jacinth]

it's the Hunter serum

you're injecting it with each vitality shot, it's just the lifeforce of Hunters

[languid palm]

Ah so we're drug addicts

I always had a feeling

[regal trout]

Yes

We're also addicts to clues

[languid palm]

I know that closing rifts is

yeah

An addictive feeling

[regal trout]

Apparently clues give you a feeling of a rush of immense, otherworldly power

[languid palm]

Also unimaginable pain spread across thousands of lifetimes within the matter of 3 seconds

[regal trout]

Pretty much all Hunters have ulterior motives, even the ones who seem to be pledged to the AHA

[noble scarab]

a clue feels like its burning you alive, but you like it

[regal trout]

Mhmm

[languid palm]

It's also been described as "Your fingernails being pulled out from their roots"

[solar jacinth]

it's not addictive, it's a booster more likely

[languid palm]

Also believe teeth being pulled was mentioned but could be wrong

[solar jacinth]

for the regular hunters, I.E. non-legendaries it might be addictive

[noble scarab]

youre telling me cain isnt huffing serum like there's no tommorrow

[solar jacinth]

cain has been alive for 20,000+ years, pretty sure he doesn't feel anything anymore

[languid palm]

When I first started playing I knew a lot about the game but not about the lore, was really confused why everyone's veins looked like they were popping out of their arms and why everyone had darksight. The lore is kinda hard to grasp just from playing

[solar jacinth]

it's very hard to grasp from pure gameplay

[languid palm]

Ffs grammarly I meant VEINS

[solar jacinth]

that's why i love the concept of the liber de monstrovrm

[regal trout]

We're getting a TV show

Which is neat

[solar jacinth]

actually? real shit?

[languid palm]

Considering the lynch arc turned into an anime snake battle I'm cautiously optimistic

[noble scarab]

yea its real

[regal trout]

Yeah only issue is it's on a new platform

[languid palm]

Would have preferred a PvE Co-op* game but ehh

[regal trout]

"Binge"

[noble scarab]

by some no-name video game only platform

[solar jacinth]

interesting

might have to pirate it look at it

jk i support crytek

[noble scarab]

i think its just straight up free but you have to watch ads or something

[solar jacinth]

they need the money

[languid palm]

They've been out of the financial sinkhole for years

[solar jacinth]

it's specifically the hunt dev team, no?

[regal trout]

I'm really curious what FPS trends Crysis 4 is gonna follow

But that's not a conversation for here lol

[languid palm]

Crytek reported that it was no longer in financial turmoil as early as 2016

[solar jacinth]

ah well cheers lad

[languid palm]

And since then no reports of them being in any trouble again have come up

[noble scarab]

our servers tho

again not a thing for here

[regal trout]

So wait

Is Cain implied to be the literal biblical Cain

I thought it was just a moniker he took up

[noble scarab]

there's different theories

i think hes Lewis Desalle personally

[solar jacinth]

i genuinely think it's biblical cain

he carries his brothers bones

dude looks like a cursed son

same haricut n beard from biblical cain depictions

[noble scarab]

wouldnt he be darker skinned if that was the case?

[solar jacinth]

walking the earth for 20,000 years will most likely change your appearence

[noble scarab]

i mean i guess

[warped sluice]

He cant be the biblical Caine. Caine is marked on the forehead with a mark that prevents people from committing violence against him. It's just a moniker

I think... \o/

[solar jacinth]

i mean... you still see cain everytime you kill him

my assumption is he dies, then after like a couple hours he just gets back up n drags himself to the AHA hq

[empty owl]

if that were to be the case he'll be as thin as bones

[warped sluice]

You dont get shot 7 times by God the moment you shoot Caine either. There is bit in the bible about Caine being afraid of revenge killings, so God puts up a discord announcement saying he will avenge 7 fold whatever is done on Caine. Since we don't get smited when we shoot him I guess he is just some dude.

... Considering theres only 4 people in the world and Caine just iced one quarter of the worlds popul ation I'm not sure who he was worried about but that's a completely different lore discussion.

Then again the Sculptor is running amok in the bayou so maybe he is Caine and the big guy upstairs isn't paying attention.

[solar jacinth]

The Devil casts a shadow of doubt upon whatever is in his eye of opportunity

Besides God never said the punishment was instant

[bold tangle]

plot twist, the sculptor is god

(or cain himself)

[languid palm]

If the vitality shots are hunter's life force, does that mean they require a constant supply even after they retire?

[languid palm]

Even if he's "Caine" he's not the biblical caine me thinks

[noble scarab]

They shouldn’t need a constant supply, Hunters seem to age normally, they just to die from whatever spiritual wasting disease they all have

Or from natural causes, which for a Hunter probably means getting shot

[upbeat plume]

Can the corruption spread if you take a grunt out? Like let’s say someone just kidnapped a grunt and brought it to Florida or something. Would Florida now become a danger zone? Or would the grunt just die or live for how ever long they live for

Or any of the monsters

[regal trout]

Iirc it's the black worms and they come outta dead grunts

So it'd be dangerous

[upbeat kiln]

As far as I understand, the Sculptor will lose influence over corrupted and infected entities once they venture too far out of the dead zone. Which is allegedly what the Spider is for.

So I don't think it would be an issue. Anything outside of the hunting grounds (the Sculptor's area of effect) will remain unaffected.

@earnest jungle or @noble scarab might have a better answer for you though.

[earnest jungle]

This is getting at a sort of chicken and egg scenario.

Do grunts appear because the dark corruption of the sculptor has reached an area? Or does the presence of grunts spread the dark corruption of the sculptor?

The grunts are living hives of demonic flies their veins are filled with maggots so presumably they are the main vectors for spreading the sculptor’s corruption to other humans. Regardless of which causes which.

[upbeat plume]

Alright! But that bring ups the thought of if you take something outside of the sculptors area would they loose there life?

[earnest jungle]

No

[upbeat plume]

Oh I got it

[earnest jungle]

Because infected people were brought East Louisiana State Hospital and neither died nor turned Jackson Louisiana into a dead zone.

[upbeat plume]

Hmm that makes sense.

So everybody outside of the deadzone is safe against the infection

[earnest jungle]

Not necessarily.

[upbeat kiln]

The Assassin is known to venture outside of the dead zone, but I don't know if it's capable of spreading the infection

[earnest jungle]

We don’t know how dangerous people infected by sculptor are but the AHA generally takes certain precautions when dealing with infect individuals.

Namely burning their bodies after they die in hopes of limiting their spread

The Sculptor’s influence functions similarly to and is often mistaken for a disease so I wouldn’t recommend getting too close to a grunt even if you’re outside the Dead Zine if you’re not inoculated.

One grunt on their own might not turn an area into a dead zone but a bunch of them might id packed into an urban area.

[upbeat plume]

Well I wouldn’t want to go near the man with his guts hanging out lol. Do you think that there will be anymore major spread of the corruption? Oh alright. So if someone wanted to show off the horrors of the bayou it could turn a city into a dead zone

[earnest jungle]

Oh yeah definitely.

The AHA’s main strategy has been to try and keep the Corruption from reaching any major urban areas such as New Orleans or New York because they have no idea how bad things could escalate if a city fell to the Sculptor.

[upbeat plume]

And with how Louisiana handled the first outbreak I don’t think they do much if it did spread.

[noble scarab]

It’s evidently reached New Orleans but isn’t rampant yet, or the AHA there are able to keep it under control, maybe bloodborne beast hunting style

[upbeat plume]

I wonder if it ever does reach New Orleans if we would get a map set in it

But who would have taken it there purpose or not

[upbeat kiln]

I think it's reached New Orleans already. Detective Herman was in the middle of turning into a grunt IIRC.

[slate apex]

How big do you think this thing grows

[upbeat plume]

Ooooh alrifht. I need to read up more on the lore

[upbeat kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-she-said-what-she-said-dirty-joke-joke-laugh-gif-15661968

[upbeat kiln]

but seriously, we're not sure. we know New York dealt with it

so maybe they're more competent

or the Louisiana incident was much worse

[slate apex]

Wasn’t it greed that let it grow in Louisiana?

[upbeat kiln]

Incompetence, greed, hunger for power? Maybe all of the above. There are definitely enough motivation from several different groups to have kept the Corruption there.

[vale galleon]

How did mosins make their way to La?

Wish they were 1893 Mausers tbh

[slate apex]

Carcass gunrunner

[vale galleon]

Figured

Still wish they were Mausers since they're literally in south America in the time period

[slate apex]

Eh
Maybe

I want the Spencer carbine

[vale galleon]

Well they were in use in south American militaries

A Spencer would be a weird one

Way out of favor generally by this point but more guns to me are welcome

[slate apex]

People still used them tho

[vale galleon]

Sure sure

[slate apex]

Especially because of their high caliber

[slate apex]

And the AHA is canonically desperate for guns

[vale galleon]

Hence why hey always add more guns

[slate apex]

I would also love to see a evans repeating rifle

[vale galleon]

I'm very happy everytime I return I see a new gun in gamd

Now I get to play with a 38 long Colt lol

[slate apex]

@vale galleon what do you think about adding the evans repeating rifle

[vale galleon]

It'd be neat I think the devs are trying to avoid adding too many forgotten designs from prior to 73

My assumption at least

Winchester just really was the best system overall

[slate apex]

The evans was made in 1873

[vale galleon]

Okay prior to 74 :)

It'd be neat sure

Dev wise it probably wouldn't add much hence they avoided it so far

[slate apex]

It was remade in 1878

[vale galleon]

Eh I mean sure lol I'll just say the more popular firearms seem to be their focus with a few wild cards

[icy brook]

Evens would be nuts to do a partial reload lol

[slate apex]

The evans is pretty well known after rdr2

[vale galleon]

Curious how many were actually made

[slate apex]

3k old models 12k new models

[vale galleon]

Compare that to a 1873

You seem to have the numbers handy on wiki or otherwise

Sorry I just don't know

15k is a very paltry number for the American market back then I am quite certain

[slate apex]

Oh no a character in a western I’m writing uses the evans

Rifle size barrel as supposed to a carbine one

Cool eh?

[vale galleon]

Sounds heavy for a horse

Or unwieldy rather

I do prefer longer barrels regardless

[icy brook]

It would probably be pleasant to shoot offhand, given the butt end would be so heavy

But having to cycle so many empty round spaces would drive me nut

[slate apex]

He doesn’t use it on horseback
He essentially uses the larger capacity to his advantage with a custom scope

[vale galleon]

Ahh should be fine then

I want a detailed max autism layout of his custom scope plz include that description tia

Sounds neato

Early scopes are neat

[slate apex]

Uranium glass was a thing around the time and since he came from a rich family he custom ordered his scope with uranium glass in it
So essentially the center of the reticle glows at night

[vale galleon]

Uranium or radon?

[slate apex]

We should probably take this discussion to dms

[wispy creek]

omg, a match made in heaven

[slate apex]

?

[wispy creek]

Our names xD

[vapid edge]

I dont like how the website implies all the dead hunters go to hell permanently, is this true?

[vapid edge]

I dont understand what you mean

And quickplay is them trying to sever their connection?

Where was this shown?

So that's how you know they are forever linked with the scouplter?

I do know that winning quickplay is referred to as saving your soul losing is failing to save your soul, and dieing in hunt mode just says you died

So would that not be like getting away?

Its said to be a purifying power

Also what does this mean when they retire

[vapid edge]

Would their soul still be tied after?

[noble scarab]

The wellspring cures Hunters of their spiritual wasting disease, every Hunter probably has this disease assuming they used Lynch’s demon blood serum. Not all of them seem to succumb to it however.

Plus with people like the Revenant we seem to be able to drag at least part of a dead Hunter back from the other side

[vapid edge]

Who are those who havent succumbed and why?

[noble scarab]

It seems to be random or may depend upon how corrupt a Hunter becomes

It may also depend on will or spiritual strength

[earnest jungle]

Interesting

Very interesting

[wide jay]

What war is Sgt Bridgewater a veteran of? Because It can’t be the civil war since he has dog tags and a hat that more so resembles something from the Spanish American campaign. Yet that happened in 98 and the game takes place in 95. Also his description does not make much sense for it to be referring to the civil war since it talks about injustice, yet he is clearly wearing a federal uniform.

[restive patrol]

hope to god that they fixed the underground audio issues

[restive patrol]

he's a buffalo soldier (underpaid and often undertrained black cavalary units sent out to fight against natives)

[wide jay]

Ah thanks

[earnest jungle]

He Says he found the answer, Way Down in Kingsnake Mine

[restive patrol]

its implied in his steam store description via the "realizing that their aspirations were misguided: that they were enforcing an idea of order in a wild land that never asked for it" and "orders given that didn’t align with his own moral compass."

[wide jay]

That makes more sense then

[restive patrol]

I hope that they also open up the Pelican Island Prison basement mentioned in the Slate and New Army Book of Weapons Masteries.

[upbeat kiln]

Didn't you call this a long time ago? You said either Salter's Pork or the mine IIRC?

[earnest jungle]

That’s why I speculated but I’m still unsure due to the revelations about the basement of Pelican Island.

What I am certain of is that Sculptor is a chthonic (underworld) entity.

My current theory is that Pelican Island functioned is what attracted the Sculptor to DeSalle and Kingsnake mine is what unleashed it upon DeSalle.

Because both the shafts of Kingsnake Mine and the infamous Basement of Pelican Island were sealed up and sealed up intentionally.

[upbeat kiln]

Haha dude you gotta stop. If you keep being right with your predictions about the lore, then all of sudden Crytek is gonna go D&D on us to "subvert expectations" 🤣

[upbeat kiln]

I had to google chthonic

[earnest jungle]

I just realized this is a Happy Gilmore reference.

[earnest jungle]

This is probably just a continuity error

It is important to remember that not everything the devs do is intentional. Sometimes people make rather simple mistakes.

[steep spade]

I just watched your YouTube video!!!

[jovial basin]

wonder if its map update or has more implications, like a new boss

[rare remnant]

i hope its a map update, a new boss would also be dope

ive always looked at that mine and wondered whats inside

[jovial basin]

cain was inside

[upbeat kiln]

are you saying Cain is a minor?

[jovial basin]

cain is a miner

nah, was actually just a joke, cain having been stuck in the mine for who knows what time, and coming out as the crazed mudbaby he now is

[dark thistle]

What a guy

Looks cool

[glad verge]

did the plague started along time ago or recently?

I read it started hundreds of years ago, but I also read stuff like "when word from the bayou arrived of what was happening"

[earnest jungle]

It’s possible that the Corruption of the Sculptor has always existed in the Swamps, usually dormant but every couple centuries flaring up.

[glad verge]

could be

[earnest jungle]

There are reports of Grunts in the area as far back as 1812

First Hive showed up sometime in the 1880s.

[slate apex]

The main reason why it got so bad is because it was actually the Native Americans who were doing the bulk of the work against the corruption but after they were forcefully moved the new American settlers didn’t exactly know how to deal with it

I think

[earnest jungle]

What ever was up with Felis started in the 1870s.

[glad verge]

what's wrong with her?

rumored

[earnest jungle]

Were not quite sure, some kind of spiritual malady or darkness. But when she was a little kid she started killing small animals and then graduated to murdering and mutilating a grown man so bad they thought a cougar did it.

Then decades later she killed his son in the same way.

She was bought to the Bone Doctor to be healed but what ever healing he did only sent her disease into remission.

[glad verge]

I need to start unlocking more lore entries

[devout cedar]

I hope the lore community aprooves this

https://youtu.be/pd0LJD6R6eA

[echo heron]

awesome video to tell one of the best character backstories in hunt

[upbeat kiln]

Does anyone here know where the grave of John Haywood Hunter is? I've heard that you can find it within the game.

[noble scarab]

I’ve done some googling and I can’t find anything on it, just the series of letters from him

That’s not to say it’s not in game, but it might be one of the unmarked ones, of which there are many

[glad verge]

there's a grave stone with a name on Spanish that has been in the game since the beginning, do we still don't know who he is?

[azure galleon]

theres a grave south east of healing waters, its open. no inscription on the grave stone tho

[glad verge]

I'm talking about the one north of Blanchett Graves, it says Jacob Ortiz Sullivan

[verbal pollen]

Question: I wanna start with learning the lore of the game, but it's a bit scattered and Dark Soulsesque. Where should I start?

[grizzled pilot]

Check out Liisn on yt his channel is a great starting point

[verbal pollen]

Thanks! I figured the in-game entries, but those are just snippets

[grizzled pilot]

Np
They are still worth checking out once you get the idea of whats what

[noble scarab]

Also checkout HazmatFTW, and feel free to ask us here for any clarifications

[earnest jungle]

I second HazmatFTW

[hollow lava]

So somebody might remember me, im writting a fan fic about Hunt, some of y'all helped me with the lore n' stuff so if anybody would like to help me during the process please do

[hollow lava]

I know a decent bit of the lore but need help with specifcs and such

[hollow lava]

You have a point

What are like the lead factions in hunt atm

Like specific groups and such

I suppose to put it another way, who are the legendary hunters working for

I know about American Hunters Asociation, but i dont suppose the bone doctor, weird sister and hunters like that work for it

[edgy aspen]

I guess you can consider Nahotabi and Delphine as the start of the Native faction from the "Light the Shadow" event.

[still quest]

As you unlock the trapdoor Springfield mastery, you learn more about Thomas bridge and a couple guys called the brothers. Do we know anything about them? It didn’t sound like they were referring to the twins jos and fin.

[noble scarab]

No, they were just the first guys to hunt in a trio

They broke the duo tradition and were evidently cursed for it. Or the ol mountain man was just telling tales

Maybe both

[still quest]

Do we know who they were? Or are they just nameless cursed bros?

[noble scarab]

Nameless, far as I’m aware

[hollow lava]

Why was it a tradition to hunt as a duo before?

Or is that something we dont know

[faint surge]

At first you could only solo

[hollow lava]

How come?

[versed wedge]

Does the curse precede the Lynch demon drug ritual? Cause I imagine duos or trios do something funny like a blood pact to enable revives and seeing each other through walls.

[placid girder]

They should do an origin of the meathead mode for holloween. One player is a pregnant female with ungodly power and 300 hp. Other than that normal hunt. Injuring her gives bonus event points. Killing gives a special event bounty to extract with.

[upbeat kiln]

Yes. The AHA had their own serum before Lynch's, but it was less effective.

[versed wedge]

I meant the duo-trio curse.

[upbeat kiln]

Oh! Thats a question for greater minds. Haha I'm sure @noble scarab or @earnest jungle knows :))

[hollow lava]

Im actually very interested in this now. Its a really good theory

[edgy aspen]

What is this curse of the brothers breaking duos?
Cursed as in, "Their names are revilved amongst the AHA" or cursed as in carrying metaphysical detriments bestowed upon them?

[noble scarab]

Once again both. Other Hunter duos found it unfair and they hated and feared them for it. The curse evidently drove them mad, but the mountain man didn’t elaborate further

[noble scarab]

Yes it does. Lynch’s serum is new, and Hunters have always worked in duos, with some attaching more significance to it than others. For some it was just someone to trust and to watch your back, for others they did rituals and bound themselves together in blood and mirror.

You could always Hunt alone, but it was seen as a death wish

[versed wedge]

So do hunters hunt in Trios now? Or is it still taboo?

If hunters now run around in Trios now, then Mountain Man's trio just seems to be bad luck and superstition.

[edgy aspen]

Some of the latest cinematics for new DLCs show trios being killed.

[noble scarab]

Trios are accepted now, tho I’m sure some still think it’s bad luck

[tired carbon]

hey hey. I wanted to ask- what is known about mr. Chary? where can I read/hear stuff about him?

[lethal tusk]

So breaking the 4th wall a bit, but while playing the game you were not able to group in threes right. And the lore reflects the game not allowing trios, and then once the developers decided or figured out how to do that, they adjusted the lore to fit. Or am I wrong, that's just how I remember it. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[edgy aspen]

Trios were added in update 6.0 in mid 2019.

I travelled to New Orleans in March. Went on a few tours, one into the Bayou.
Don't know what Northern Louisianna looks like but the first two maps of Hunt aren't very Bayou-like.
In some lore its ststed that the corruption is less pronounced outside the Bayou.
Leaving me to believe that we are currently not Hunting in the worst of the corrupted areas. That things are far worse and more dangerous in the deep Bayou.

[noble scarab]

Desalle is supposed to be roughly where it started, as such it should be the worst

But the devs have also never probably been to the swamps, so they may have been just working based off reference images while trying to provide an interesting environment

[modest heart]

Considering the drug that Hunters take to make them immune to the corruption only lasts 1 hour (justifying the 1 hour match times but a bit weird considering travel time is being ignored) There is pretty good reason to believe that we haven't seen what things are like deep in the Bayou since traveling through corrupted areas would presumably burn immunity time

[lethal tusk]

Also the devs are based out of Germany if memory serves. So they probably have not been to the US. With all the travel restrictions and all that.

[bold tangle]

Any lore changes going to happen now that it’s being reduced to 45 min?

[modest heart]

probably not

Definitely doesn't seem like something they'd do

[slate apex]

I mean the announcement did say that times were changing

Like in a lore sense

[earnest jungle]

The Inoculation last a lifetime it’s just that it’s dangerous to stay in a deadzone for too long

[earnest jungle]

Exactly

[bold tangle]

Unless your a red neck

[noble scarab]

Local poultry farmer to stubborn to die

[bold tangle]

He’s too drunk to take damage

[hollow lava]

I wasnt around for the last event, whos Mr.Chary?

[restive patrol]

https://youtu.be/BlxFH2pNCZs?t=512

little hint for the lore being incorporated more into the gameplay (already timestamped it btw)

[icy brook]

Nice, I hope this leads to some more cohesive lore

[hollow lava]

Thank youu

[empty owl]

Head of the AHA post huff

[noble scarab]

probably abdicated his post due to our boy kev shooting his knee

mans was head of the aha for like a week tops

[molten forge]

I thought that was Finch

[empty owl]

nope, finch is a staff member

[bold tiger]

It's permanent immunity, or close enough too it. Becoming a hunter is what makes you immune. The hour thing is just handwaved

[edgy aspen]

The innoculations make you immune but shortens life span.

[bold tiger]

Where'd you see that, I mean other than hunters dying all the fucking time to other hunters

[edgy aspen]

Wasn't it in the Lynch lore? She made the improved innoculations for Huff. The nee innoculation allows for more Hunters to ve recruited at the cost of them getting sick later in life. Some other lore I think mentioned that Hunters were ok with shortened life spans to burn brighter today.

[noble scarab]

It’s the spiritual wasting disease, all have it, but only some succumb to it

[primal thorn]

I found a new easter egg showing that lightning mcqueen was actually a prominent and dangerous hunter

[glacial rivet]

Where would i best start getting into the lore

[edgy aspen]

Reading through the weapon descriptions, the mastery files in arsenal, the Librarium files when you advance the monster kills. You can find some decent Youtube videos. Most will stste up front if its conjecture.

Some lore is revealed in Tweet and Instagram posts. When an event is active there is some lore reveal. Reading the legendary weapon and hunter descriptions.

[vapid edge]

The site says all who die go directly to hell is there any other text proving or denying it?

[edgy aspen]

You have. Lil' Webby may not have. O

[vapid edge]

I dont think so

Oh yeah I asked before and some guy said they went to quickplay, this was before Hazmat debunked that theory

[vapid edge]

So now the question is if quickplay isn't what happens after death what is

[vapid edge]

Wheres that said

[short wagon]

So im curious about some of the factions. like why does the sinners see them self as damned to hell i get that they are muslim hunters but like it makes no sense imo or whats the deal with the blood cult and does their rituals actually work? i cant find much about both of the factions

from the thing i have read it seems like blood rituals actually work and give them some sort of power

[keen leaf]

Hunter power Comes from an alteration of their blood, wich is both science and magic

If you use something that does not have an actual scientific explanation, you'll mostly think it's Magic and build ritual around it

A bit like how humans were made prior to évolution theory

[short wagon]

aah

that makes sense

what about the sinners

i still have no clue

like did something happen that proved christianity was the correct religion or something

[keen leaf]

I think it's more linked to Hunters personal beliefs

[short wagon]

yea thats the thing i dont get why a group of muslims would think they were damned to hell out of nowhere and started to do evil things

[earnest jungle]

Hunters have demons in their blood, literally.

I’m not Muslim but I’m pretty sure injecting demon blood into your veins isn’t Halal.

It’s definitely not Kosher

[short wagon]

why doesnt the christian groups see them selfs as damned too then

and again

injecting demon blood isnt halal which it prob isnt lol why are they doing it

to help america?

they should be happy quffar(non beliver) is suffering

[earnest jungle]

Why would they be happy that People of the Book are suffering?

[short wagon]

i mean

america is/was seen as a very evil country

especially in the middle east

[earnest jungle]

Not in the 1890s

[short wagon]

and like considering the country is mostly christians

muslim wouldnt like them

i think atleast

[earnest jungle]

You’re making a lot of incorrect assumptions about the historical relationship between Christianity and Islam.

[short wagon]

Orthodox christianity and islam was pretty chill thanks to the ottoman empire

but i dont think catholics were peacfull with muslims and the other way around

[earnest jungle]

The relationship between the Abrahamic Religions is complicated for many reason I won’t get into. Sometimes these faiths were able to cohabitate with each other (Such as in Medieval Spain) other times they were prone to violent sectarian clashes.

[short wagon]

i mean

[earnest jungle]

Usually conflict was more to do with secular political rivalries than irreconcilable religious differences.

[short wagon]

mostly the religious countrys fought with eachers

especially ottomans with christian countrys

like crusades and all that

and considering sinan is prob from the ottoman empire since the name

i dont think he or others would want to help americans

[earnest jungle]

Why wouldn’t he?

Do you think every single Muslim personally hates non-muslims and wants to see them suffer?

[short wagon]

no no not like that

[earnest jungle]

Do you hate every single person who does not share your faith and want to see them suffer?

[short wagon]

bro i dont belive in any faiths(ex muslim)

but

i come from a muslim family/country

and i can say this

to the people of ottoman empire

religion was EVERYTHING

like it was the most important thing

and i dont think it makes sense that a religious man/woman would actually care and want to help the people he saw as enemies

and actually leave his/her religion to help said people

[earnest jungle]

And I’m saying I don’t think he would have seen the US as an enemy

After all this is before the US began intervening in the Middle East

[short wagon]

they didnt but most of the middle east was ruled by the ottomans

and belive me ottomans didnt liked america back then too

especially because the religion

ofc there are some other reasons but the main on is religion

and the devs especially said the sinners were muslim/middle eastern hunters

so i think it makes sense to drag religion into this

[earnest jungle]

And I’m saying I doubt every single Muslim person would have hated Americans enough that they would want to see them suffer a demonic invasion.

Especially if that invasion could unleash hell on earth

Especially if those Americans were paying them thousands upon thousands of dollars to kill these monsters

[short wagon]

well yeah

thats a good point

[earnest jungle]

As for why Christians didn’t see themselves as damed

Well some did and some didn’t

Christianity did not retain the focus on dietary and physical purity that Islam and post Temple Judaism did because it alienated Gentile Converts.

Some Protestant sects did redevelop such taboos but only for drinking and smoking

There’s also of course the Protestant belief in ones own moral superiority.

If your faith is predicated on believing the right things is more important than doing the right thing it’s easy to see yourself as saved no matter what you do.

[short wagon]

well that clears up a lot

i was going with the religion side since devs mentioned that but yeah

the things that you said actually makes sense

thanks man

[earnest jungle]

Ishim Grid is specifically a fire and brimstone style preacher and that certainly influences the beliefs and actions of his congregation

his gospel is less “love thy neighbor” and more “shoot thy neighbor for they are a wretched sinner”

He had built the Church using land sold to him by the (Catholic) Widow Blanchett who according to legend curried him and his congregation when she learned he was a Protestant Evangelical.

So yeah in summation the reason Ishim Girdd did not see himself damned was because he was a fanatic horny for Holy War.

[noble scarab]

meanwhile the Night of the Hunter cult was somewhere in between the two beliefs and was using monster blood to save themselves

[noble scarab]

i mean

concern

[rotund ferry]

alligators

[ripe inlet]

I think you are abit wrong about that. They want to redeem their sins before they die, if i did not missunderstood them.

[short wagon]

i think its said that they dont care about their lives

and think they are already going to hell

so they just do what other hunters dont want to

[ripe inlet]

Found what i was looking for. They believe they are dammed. They want to redemption by killing monsters/cleanse corruption.

[ripe inlet]

@noble scarab can tell more about sinners than me i think. I do not know much.

[short wagon]

yea same

i dont know too much too

about most of the factions actually

[ripe inlet]

I think most of factions just want to fck each other. Night of the hunter want to fck everyone. Law want to enforce the law(But some reason start to do orphan soldiers and human experiments with AHA.). Christians to destroy corrupted.(every hunter at moment has connection to demons, i am pretty sure they want to kill every one.) Voodoo is miss understood and most people think they are sculptors people(most people want to kill them). I do not even understood what is the thing of native Americans. There was some notes about researchers. Also we have hunters build their own cells for blood, revenge, money or other stuff. Lets do not forget our lovely Cherry. Who we do not know a fck about beside he want to fck with moon and sculptor. Caldwell want blood of AHA.(Rich guy want revenge for his son. I think. I am pretty sure he made a faction for himself for that.) Lynch want fck the sculptor and things between her and sculptor. Sinners want redemption by killing monsters and cleaning hunting ground. We also some chinese people as well. Did i forget other people? I bet i did.

[short wagon]

its literally a shitshow

cave mans rednecks japanese ronins

plus all the other factions

kinda funny actually

[rotund ferry]

I have no idea what's happening in here but I'm super curious. Any good suggestions for YouTube lore vids?

[noble scarab]

HazmatFTW

[noble scarab]

The sinners are Muslims, coming to hunt Djinn. They indeed don’t care about their lives, they believe themselves already damned. Some American Hunters have even converted to this line of thinking

[rotund ferry]

Ty

[noble scarab]

Mans one of the best in the business

[upbeat kiln]

Awww you ❤

[rotund ferry]

gave ya a sub on the tubes

ill def be checkin out ya vids

[upbeat kiln]

Thanks man. Awesome name btw 🤣

[rotund ferry]

haha thank you! I'm normally just Bayou Atlas, but ya know...sometimes workaholics be getting me chucklin

[valid dove]

When will we get the big game hunter from the lore

[slow kernel]

this may have already been asked out there, but

how does Gus Leroux / The Phantom's prosthetic arm work?

[upbeat kiln]

Only Lynch and the Phantom knows

https://tenor.com/view/spooky-boo-ghost-creepy-cute-gif-6238034

[devout cedar]

More phantom lore when

[upbeat kiln]

I can write you some. Results may vary🤣

[slow kernel]

Would it be fanon or canon?

[glad verge]

who's Dr Jones?

[bold tangle]

can someone explain to me the whole water devils driving out gators, cause my friend is complaning that a gator would fuck up a water devil and i want to just give him the lore exerpt

[ripe inlet]

Dr. Philip Huff Jones, previus head of lousiona(correct me i do not know) branch of AHA. He killed.

[glad verge]

ok

[upbeat kiln]

I doubt Crytek would take anything I say as canon 🤣

[stone light]

Water devils are basically groups of small leech-like things that hunt in packs. They devour flesh almost instantly. Lure a grunt into the path of a water-devil and you'll see its legs get eaten off. I think gators would be able to bite down on a mouthful of them but the remainder would just devour the gator from the outside.

[night sage]

So do you think hunters take anything to counteract being devoured almost instantly or is it just gameplay balance?

(I mean I’ve also never been killed by one and always try to avoid them so I don’t really know how long it takes for one to kill a hunter)

[glad verge]

without bloodless is quite fast

[night sage]

I see

[noble scarab]

Hunters are just that badass, sure, it fucks them up, but they regen

these are people that can take a nitro round to the torso and not have a hole blown through them

some even are able to do more, Mr Chary for example is faster than a bullet, and has far greater healing capabilities than the average Hunter

[rotund ferry]

watched 6 of ya vids yesterday, loving them my dude. the lore of this game is super cool, and the storytelling very enjoyable

[jolly helm]

i need Lynch skin plz

[indigo stratus]

music man skin better

[upbeat kiln]

IIRC, and sorry for breaking for fourth wall, the Water Devils have the highest DPS of any monster within the game.

[warped sluice]

Yeah they'll chew through you like a piranha with the munchies. Though it would be pretty sick to see that boss croc from the concept art turn up in game

[deft ore]

Technically, Meatheads have higher DPS, as their kill slash attack spread over the time given to measure DPS - a second - outweights the devils :D

Also, the devils are roughly 150 worms in a pack, so, question is, how much does ONE worm damage

[deft ore]

According to the lore, the devils enter the organism they wish to devour and eat internally, starting with organs if they can and working towards meat.

Its safe to assume that people infected in the Bayou have rotten and decaying skin tissue that is much easier to dissolve than the rather hardened skin that humans naturally have around their shins and especially under their feet + the clothing

[jolly helm]

Why would crocodile boss be more likely if all of em left the bayou?

[upbeat kiln]

Because it sounds so cool!

[upbeat kiln]

And look at that thing!

[jolly helm]

Well true, but would it be that someone brought a corpse and experimented on it or just by chance one of em came back and got corrupted

tbh i wanna see a wendigo boss

[upbeat kiln]

that would be cool as well

[untold blaze]

That would be awesome

[glad verge]

why did hunters used to hunt only in duos?

[deft ore]

You can go in solo... The duo thing is a game design choice lol

[glad verge]

I'm talking lore wise

people weren't allowed to hunt in trios

[noble scarab]

Someone to watch your back, for the most part

[glad verge]

saw you previously talking about it , Thomas Bridge and some brothers and what not

[noble scarab]

That’s the trios. One day some brothers decided to hunt as three, they were shunned by the AHA because; they had an unfair advantage, duos had some kind of sacred bond, it’s just cursed

[steep spade]

@upbeat kiln love your vids bro

[upbeat kiln]

thank you ❤️

[scenic furnace]

hi, does anyone know anything about this symbol found inside the Chapel basement?

[glad verge]

I saw it also in catfishgrove and I think in the mines

[dull quiver]

where does he come into the lore

[lethal tusk]

To be honest my first thought was that it was a drone....

[rotund ferry]

Why is Walter white not in the hunt story line?

[mental veldt]

Do we know anything about Marshall Brewer aside from her in-game story?

[noble scarab]

Trailers have her hanging with the Twins at one point

[upbeat kiln]

Besties :))

[upbeat kiln]

Hello, there fellow lore lovers.

We have all questioned multiple times how the bosses are killed and resurrected within the game and lore - well, we have a hypothetical answer now:

|| I interviewed one of the original designers of Hunt: Showdown and its lore, Fasih Sayin, who absolutely blew my mind with his angle on Hunt and how its unreliable narrator functions.

Apparently; WE are the unreliable narrators. Each of us. Every time we go on an expedition, we are telling a story, which might not be true. Which means, bosses don't get resurrected. They have only been killed once and are gone forever after that.

I gotta say, of all possibilities I had considered, this wasn't one of them, but it might be the best of them all. What a twist.

NOTE: This is not confirmed by the lore or Crytek, this is the initial idea, from one of the original creators, who ISN'T part of the development anymore.

Timestamp at 20:38 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqHe5tvix0o&t=1237s ||

[night sage]

so then it really seems like gameplay is just a retelling of one day

[earnest jungle]

Yeah no that’s been officially joshed by the new developers.

This was discussed in a QnA before 1.0 but the writers moved away from this interpretation in no small part because it has no basis in the text of a story.

It’s one of those interpretations that really interesting but nothing in game really supports the idea that every single hunt is just a retelling of the same story with exaggerations. It’s a head cannon more than it is an interpretation.

Which is why that interpretation always bothered me.

I like my theories grounded in what’s in the story. It’s also why I finally like those edge lord “all these cartoon characters are dead/dreaming” theories. They’re nonfalsifiable claims that have no basis in the text of the story they’re just head cannons based on what the theorist thinks would be cool.

[upbeat kiln]

Yeah, like I said, it's a hypothetical based off of 4 year old lore - but IMO - it is still by far the best theory in terms of how the looping gameplay makes sense. I love this theory :)) But I see your point, and understand that the concept is both unsubstantiated and basically breaking the fourth wall by grabbing "information" from outside of the game.

[upbeat plume]

Does anyone know the symbols and meaning on the night of the hunters clothes. I’m making a cosplay based off there outfits and it seems like something to know

[noble scarab]

A lot of their clothing is covered in protective sigils and wards against corruption

[short wagon]

i mean if the games that we play are a retelling/flashback,how are they explaining the games where we die

like if you died during the game how can you remember that and tell it to someone as a retelling

[upbeat plume]

Oh alright I didn’t know if it was like anything specific

[quasi crow]

If it's all just 1 event happening once but in different ways each time, what about hunters and how they level up and gain more experience? Since they may go back into the bayou and fight the same bosses again, or is that just an oversight in the theory? Very cool perspective though, I'm imagining a group of veteran hunters huddled around a campfire contradicting each others experiences in the bayou with their own, constantly 1-upping each other with what THEY say what actually happened.

[upbeat kiln]

Then you aren't retelling the story, then someone else is telling the story of how you died.

[upbeat kiln]

That's a great question. In terms of the lore itself, all hunters don't just venture in there to kills the bosses, that's just some of them - and might even be the "ultimate hunt", for some of the more seasoned hunters as for example; Hardin and his forces, only went in to kill dogs and grunts, and barely succeeded at that, as that was what the experience of the prisoners and children available to Hardin allowed them to do.

In accordance with the lore, all of the monsters are severely more deadly than they actually are in-game.

[lusty flume]

Pinhead Larry

[quasi crow]

Does anyone know of a series, video or compiled document that breaks down a lot, if not all the lore thus far? Thanks.

[jolly helm]

Hazmat and Liisn have pretty good vids on the lore of the game

[edgy aspen]

It takes a out 3 to 4 good hunts to max out a character withiut dying.
Or about bannishing the 4 bosses. Seems to me that a "story" is not about each game, but about each Hunter you recruit. You "retell" the story with each new Hunter. Of course this falls apart if a msxed out Hunter survives for a long time as they will encounter the same boss muktiple times.

[haughty copper]

I believe that the killing of Dr. Jones by Lynch was a coverup by the IRS. Dr. Jones committed tax fraud and Lynch is just a fabrication of the IRS in the story.

[edgy aspen]

The who are the twins?

[buoyant crystal]

Do we have a full render if a Water Devil, or do we only have the top of the water to go off of?

[rotund ferry]

I thought they were leeches?

Those are some vicious slugs otherwise.

[buoyant crystal]

Oh alright. Cool

[keen leaf]

They are mutated bloodworm

[upbeat kiln]

Jose and Fina; children of the Black Coat. Prospects of Lynch. Short-spoken and extremely deadly.

[potent merlin]

A few of the symbols are made up hocus pocus but I'd suggest looking into old alchemy symbols, wards, Louisiana Voodoo symbols etc

[upbeat plume]

Alright man I will do that!

[earnest jungle]

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