lore-discussion

[peak badger]

whats the lore on the maps being fucking 90% day time?

anyone got a clue?

wtf goin on in the bayou??

[noble scarab]

Yes, per the Scottfield variant entries

[noble scarab]

Gameplay thing, not lore. It’s assumedly random when bosses pop up so the Hunters get sent out soon as they get word

[grizzled pilot]

noone being dumb enough to go in at night or in poor conditions thats my guess at least

[open fractal]

Does anyone know what is written on the Berthier Sui's Bane?

[grizzled pilot]

lll post it in a sec

...the Bayou is the missing part

[open fractal]

yeah but I guess thats not whats written in chinese characters on the weapon itself?

[grizzled pilot]

oh

thats what you meant

mb

[lean plaza]

Okok

So basically the lore of hunt is basically swamp which as a game

Right?

[wet sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[lean plaza]

It's a weird country song

[wet sparrow]

I hate country

But I need to understand the joke

Be back in a second

[lean plaza]

https://youtu.be/O-4mpwJQBFk

I'm not fond either but I used to have to listen to it all the time

There

[wet sparrow]

I hate you

This is correct

Still hate you

[lean plaza]

Pfffff

[rotund ferry]

what the hell is this?

nvm, just can't watch through discord. Weird

[lean plaza]

Swamp witch by Jim Stafford, I am not a fan of country but if you think of hunt while listening to it you will find some similarities

Should be in Spotify or something

[edgy aspen]

Aside from 'the Papers of Hayden Collins" is there anymore info on Lynch?

[woven grail]

all substantial info of Lynch is of Hayden Collins.

Which could be fictionalized or lies.

[noble scarab]

bits and pieces from weapon lore, the mini winnie entries, thats about it

[edgy aspen]

So who are the Twins? Aside from possibly the ones who killed Huff.

[noble scarab]

we have less on them than we do Lynch, but they supposedly the Black Coats daughters that became Hunters and eventually mightve fought Lynch

They were powerful Hunters and lots of factions were after them

[woven grail]

Also, they write about them as if they were the devil.

[bold tiger]

Nieces, not daughters I think

[upbeat kiln]

According to Lynch, the Black Coat was their father

[worldly copper]

they were raised by their uncle whomst durant came back and axed

[grizzled pilot]

Can someone tell what does 'RN' in custom ammo entries reffer to?

[noble scarab]

Researchers notes, for numerous unnamed researchers

[violet slate]

can someone give me a brief summary on hunt lore

why there monster

was there big virus that create monster?

explain

[sharp anvil]

Big evil thing called sculptor, does some stuff and like creates like some monsters (butcher,spider,assassin,scrapbeak)

[lean plaza]

Have you ever seen that video with he song and all the UFO stuff that shows something is complicated and insane, that applies to hunt lore

[sharp anvil]

That is the most simple brief explanation I can give

[lean plaza]

Also btd 6 very based

[violet slate]

thx man

[lean plaza]

Mhm

I'm not very good at it I just play the first map on easy alot

[violet slate]

damn u need a guide? 😳

[lean plaza]

I mean probably but it's mostly something I play on trips

[violet slate]

the game is so easy once u just understand how the bloons work and how to maximize money

[lean plaza]

I see

[gray pecan]

I hate that my brain tried to compare the Hunt economics system to Bloons Tower Defense after reading your message.

[woven grail]

Nepotism and terrible planning ends in a civil war, while several otherworldly entities encircles the material plane with zombies and zombie accessories.

[lean plaza]

Okok so what is the benefit of choosing the top lane as wizard when the other two are so powerful

[violet slate]

you dont

u use prince of darkness

or phoenix

but pod is better

pod is op

[violet slate]

payday player 💪

[visual finch]

Stick to Hunt lore discussion, please.

[inner bough]

Can there be multiple of the Target Monsters at once, or is the Sculptor limited to one of each which he keeps resurrecting?

Because if not, does Banishing even do something, aside from sending the creature back to a realm from which the sculptor can revive them? Would it maybe better to not banish them but leave them to rot?

Since when did the hunters even know how to banish and who taught it to them?

[noble scarab]

We think there can only be 1 Butcher, 1 spider, etc at a time. More than 1 boss entity can exist at the same time, however. Banishing sends them back for a time, and also allows for the collection of a Bounty, which confers power and payment outside of the bayou. Theres also a decent chance that if we just left them dead, they might just get up again without even having to be recreated.

Hunters have been probably been Banishing before this incident, so we don't really know much about it

[upbeat kiln]

@noble scarab Who is it that talks about several hunters having claimed to have killed the same spider, though the person is certain it still exists? I think that's the same person, as you say, that claims that there can only be one "boss" at a time.

[noble scarab]

Should be the John Victor guy

[upbeat kiln]

Do you have a theory? 😄

[noble scarab]

"We did what we could to kill it, and a hunter did so. Daniel Glanton. Ah, that name's familiar to you? He was the first I knew of. We all breathed a sigh of relief. Then another hunter made a claim to have killed it again, and proved it. Then another. I killed it. I did what I could to verify the stories, but a pattern emerged. There was more than one of this thing. But: never more than one at once, if that makes sense. It was re-forming. Scognamiglio would have been able to explain it better."

from the spider pages

[noble scarab]

it seems that it just gets reformed over and over again

there can probably only be one due to how its formed

[upbeat kiln]

And the different bosses in different areas is just whatever boss happens to reform in that particular hour within one of the dead zones?

[noble scarab]

we know the bosses roam around before the Hunters show up, so its probably just whatever happens to be out then

the bosses also seem to appear independently of where they were first created

actually i guess they could show up where-ever they were, then wander around before the Hunters get there

[upbeat kiln]

Do you think they have free will? The ability to move around?
Another thing; what purpose do they even serve? It's obvious from a game perspective - but in terms of the lore? If they stay in one area - confined within the lair - what does the Sculptor gain from them?

The grunts and hives, who help spread the infection all roam the map, looking for targets, but the bosses do not.

Maybe they're just bait? The bounty itself could be a honey trap for hunters? Something like that?

[noble scarab]

I think some have more free will than others. The Assassin and Scrapbeak in particular. The Spider probably has a bit, but overall it just does it job. The Butcher seems rather dumb, all things considered. Each boss has a certain job it does when its not hiding from the Hunters. The Assassin is meant to directly fight and kill Hunters, which its evidently much more successful at in lore, than in game. Scrapbeak is meant to gather items and things to be used probably for general Sculpting purposes, or for some unknown reason. The Spider is stated to go around and build webs and cocoons for other Sculptor things to gestate in. It is also thought to catch and eliminate things that aren't quite right, like mutations or misshapen creatures, or things that somehow went feral from the Sculptor's influence. The Butcher seems to gather pigs and corpses for grunts and things to feast on.

They are only in their lair while the Hunters are after them, Crytek stated that somewhere, otherwise they roam the Bayou doing their master's work

while they are within their lair they are more protected and have a better chance of defending themselves from the Hunters

Overall the bounty is probably bait as well, considering that it’s part of greed and corruption the Hunters are influenced by

[woven grail]

The bounty, if I remember correctly, is an specific organ the creatures leave behind when banished. Also another thing the devs said is that every creature molded by the sculptor is going through the same cycle

It's not simply a copy, it's the same creature

In a way it's kinda worse, the sculptor is a hippie that recycles.

[noble scarab]

hippie ass interdimensional entity

[woven grail]

Although, I do not think it's a trap

[noble scarab]

I think you could argue that its not so much a trap as it is a point of corruption, something that through violence and greed slowly wears away the Hunter's sanity and rationality, which could result in their eventual corruption

[woven grail]

The sculptor has acted mostly singlemindedly, if it was so smart to understand human emotions like greed, why don't use more of a subtle approach,
(Obviously the game would be different, but get my point)
Hunters have been fighting this things forever,This one, thinks in rot and moths.

In the end they got only one single free agent, and what does that free agent do? Kill and transform into bugs.

[noble scarab]

Very true

I wonder if the Sculptor then isnt able to think in human terms or understand anything of our world

and if thats the case then wtf did it do the piss of Lynch and the other Entities

did it put moths in their soup or something

[versed wedge]

while they are within their lair they are more protected and have a better chance of defending themselves from the Hunters
Imagine Butcher poping out of the treeline and a dozen cowboys just guns him down with revolver shots & hunting rifles and wonder if they just shot a big boar.

[noble scarab]

"Hey Jim come take a picture of this weird pig I just shot!"

[versed wedge]

The sculptor's pretty bad at this world domination thing if an entire association is farming him and his creations like some sort of weird animal part aphrodisiac market. Fast forward a hundred years and the US Army would be rolling in and studying how to weaponize the Bayou like Resident Evil.

[noble scarab]

yea thats the gist of it. it should be an easy fix, but due to infighting and Huff being shit, its kinda come to this

[earnest jungle]

What was happening specifically was that John encountered the Spider reported that he encountered it, and his report was dismissed because the spider is arachnid not insectoid and they assumed at the time the outbreak was insectoid and they believed that the sculptor favored the form of insects. Then more hunters showed up reporting sightings of the spider, and then Glanton killed it and proved it... and then some one else killed it and proved it as well.

This leads me to believe the Spider was the first demon.

Otherwise the AHA would not have been surprised by it coming back. Because all of the demons come back

I should say The Spider was the first demon they verified because Vincent aka the Assassin had been around since 1891. But nobody had survived an encounter with him until Black.

I do have an interesting theory about Vincent but that’s for another time.

And neither the Butcher nor the Scrapbeak are insectoid in nature.

As for my theory about Vincent. I think he was in essence an Italian Hitman who sold his soul to the devil to become the best Assassin alive. He killed Chief Hennessy which is why he was so agitated on the Night of the Lynching that Black Encountered him.

Vincent obviously was able to act independently of the sculptor at least for a while but in the end the Sculptor came to collect him and use him to eliminate Hunters

[noble scarab]

thats a good theory

[earnest jungle]

It’s also however possible Hennessy and Lot were threats to the sculptor and Vincent only befriended Black to get information on Lot so he could kill him.

[noble scarab]

We do see that the Assassin may have slight independence post return to the bayou in the form of his fight with the lone Hunter in the church

either that or the dudes waiting there just cause hes nuts

[earnest jungle]

It’s likely both. The Assassin appears to enjoy a good amount of autonomy and Glanton is nuts.

The Assassin likely targeted Glanton because he’s a dangerous and powerful hunter, and the fact that Glanton is waiting for it to come back so he can finish the job is because he’s a blood thirsty psychopath

[noble scarab]

theyre perfect for each other

[versed wedge]

Are they all slaves to the sculptor or is it because they are only missing a brain? Spider don't seem to be one person anymore and scrapbeak seems to be still independent.

[fading gate]

Damn this channel seems to have some great info in the lore, but its a f king lot of things, i hope the series cover the lore too

[upbeat kiln]

This was surprisingly detailed. Holy moly. I have not seen any of this - but what you're saying actually makes sense.

[woven grail]

Not all is said, you can assume most of it by reading the lore

[inner bough]

So wouldn’t it be better to lock it up in some way instead of killing it over and over again? Yes, you would miss out on the bounty tokens but I’m wondering if that could work - or if the sculptor would then just come up with some new, potentially more dangerous threat so it’s better to keep killing it when you know what to expect

Going on with the idea of locking these things up somewhere I see some potential parallels to the SCP Foundation or the Cabin in the Woods

[upbeat kiln]

You would probably have about a handful of dozen hunters coming to kill you if you tried to do that. The bounty is juicy, and worth a lot of money 😄

[inner bough]

Yeah I thought so. So it’s just our human nature, we know what we had to do to fix the ecological issues on our hand but most resent to do to it for economical profit

[woven grail]

Also hunters don't trust each other. Like, going in teams of three is some kind of magic to these people

And that was before the civil war

[drowsy canopy]

specifically working in pairs of two was a tradition one probably taken from actual hunting, the more people you have the more noise you make so having only one other person to watch you back makes tracking prey easier... there is also only two bounties in a monster that you have to banished, so pairs of hunters spliting it one bounty each is probably a very old tradition that makes a lot of sense

[earnest jungle]

I have made a horrifying discovery

While I previously assumed The Outbreak began in 1894 rereading the Hive Lore I am now certain it began some time in the 1880s

Ruth was a child of 13 when her Mother the first hive was created. And she was as old as her mother when she encountered a hive for the first time during the Louisiana Incident.

Most hunters are adults, children only being admitted as a desperate last resort in the summer of 85 and even then most did not survive even their first hunt.

The Hive appears to be a woman in her 20s and is said to physically resemble Ada.

If we assume Ada was at minimum 20 when she encountered her mother in 1895 that would mean the first hive was created in 1887

[grizzled pilot]

huge brain

[drowsy canopy]

we know 'kids' were used as Hunters before from Hardin's lore, its safe to assume Ada was at least a few years older when she encountered her mother again

its also 1895 kids of 15 or 16 were basically considered young adults at that point, Ada was also perfect Hunter material, an orphan whose parents were transformed into monsters and rescued by the AHA, she would have likely been trained by the members at the Louisiana Asylum they probably were eager to have a fanatic on their team..

however we may be in correct to assume the Hive was caused by the Outbreak, we know the Meathead arouse in scenarios completely unrelated to the outbreak before it was adopted by the Sculptor

so even if Ada was 20 when she encountered her mother again it may have not actually been her mother

her actual mother was killed by hunter shortly after she escaped her, the Sculptor simply adopted her mom as a template for future hives...

still its without a doubt the Sculptor existed the Bayou long before the outbreak

[noble scarab]

We have semi evidence of grunts as early as the 1700s

[inner bough]

From where do you get that date?

[noble scarab]

It’s in the map lore for Blanchett, there was an outbreak of some kind and they found cannibalized corpses

[real hinge]

Yeah it started quite some time before the setting of the game (1895/96) as there’s lore about how Huff sent agents to investigate the plague to check if it was of paranormal making etc. and Huff was murdered in 1894? If I remember off the top of my head correctly. By the time he was killed a lot had happened and was at the peak of the war against the sculptor.

I think the kids being used by Hardin was before 1895 - Huff is still alive when Hardin is implementing this and he’s operating from an area that hasn’t fallen completely to the sculptor but does by the time we are playing in the game. But yeah most hunters are adults and Hardin even killed those kids that he saw were too dangerous

[real hinge]

I think the Hive originated quite early on, there’s mention that Hardin and Lynch were trapped by a hive before he had even joined with Huff. Shortly after he was recruited by Lunch. His activities in the Bayou, recruiting criminals, kids etc are a while after his recruitment

[jovial basin]

so scottfield spitfire and swift are talking about lulu and sofia?

maybe weird sister in the swift one

[rotund ferry]

When is the game set?

[empty owl]

1890s or 1880s i believe

[wintry root]

1895, give or take a year

The event did start in 1894, and strange things were happening before, but the game is 1895. That about right?

[noble scarab]

Technically 1896 as well, due to the Chinese New Year flares

So give or take a year is pretty much where it’s at

I think each map is solidly set in 1895, spring, summer and fall, but time is progressing a bit more than that

[icy brook]

^^

[earnest jungle]

And if we do get a snow Map it will be in the Winter of 1895, as the snowfall of 95 occurred in February 1895

[wintry root]

We won't be getting a snow map due to performance concerns, say devs

It's a shame but it is what it is

[rotund ferry]

Thanks

[real hinge]

Yeah game set 1895 (potentially 96 due to some lore snippets) but lots of shenanigans happening before then - seems like years that the sculptor has been causing trouble.

[woven grail]

We don't know if it is the same sculptor

Like for example don't the chinese also have a problem with the Nian

?

[real hinge]

Yeah there’s the line about it being a sculptor, not the sculptor. Implying there’s more than one creature with these sorts of powers. I think the one in Louisiana is probably more powerful than anything the AHA have come across before though. I think the build up to the events around 1895 were caused by the same sculptor that’s causing havoc during the mid 1890s

[opaque glade]

Sculptors all around the world have powers? Maybe I should get into a jokb like that

[real hinge]

I’d say there’s a gap in the market at the moment 😅

[real hinge]

To save me looking for ages…how did the phantom lose his arm?

[woven grail]

In the fight with the irish woman

[real hinge]

Thanks bro. Where can I find the details? Is it in the winfield vandal section like where it mentions him killing his dad.

[noble scarab]

It’s all in the mini Winnie sections

I’d be curious to know if the other incidents in the Cascades and New York were caused by the Sculptor, or a sculptor, or something else

Those seemed to be not as big of a deal

[wintry root]

We're not sure if the Cascades thing was even an event

[real hinge]

Sweet thanks. Can’t seem to see where he lost his arm though and why he kills his dad. He mentions in 1/3 he’s missing an arm before he kills his father, then 3/3 he has that fight with Lynch’s men and she gifts him the prosthetic.

[wintry root]

But a minor Grunt outbreak did occur in NY, though it was very quickly put down

We also know that Events also occurred in China, given all the talks about whatever the "Nian" is

and I'm pretty sure the "Light the Shadow" game event description stated that the Native American hunters have fought an Event like this one before

[real hinge]

Yeah there’s lots of hints that the AHA has been around for decades/over a hundred years and there’s other organisations that do the same thing. Hopefully the tv series goes in to the lore a bit more

[noble scarab]

I think it’s actually just stated somewhere that the AHA has been around forever in some form or another

Might be in the original lore document thing

The dude there also mentions a poltergeist case that was pretty bad, so I gotta wonder wtf did that poltergeist do to make an AHA member list it as being especially troublesome

[real hinge]

It definitely kept hiding the tv remote

But I’m guessing it’s maybe going along the lines of a poltergeist being incorporeal so they could just go and shoot it.

[noble scarab]

As we all know the AHA can only solve problems via excessive gun violence

[upbeat kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/drink-cowboy-gun-beer-fire-gif-11920748

[violet slate]

does the assassin have a gender

or any boss for that matter

[upbeat kiln]

Assassin is male. Butcher is the contorted Frankenstein'ish ressurection of a meathead, so your guess is as good as mine

Scrapbeak is male too

Does the spider have a gender? Yes. All of them.

[violet slate]

spider is a bunch of people correct?

[upbeat kiln]

Yeah

[violet slate]

just like morphed together

[upbeat kiln]

mighty morphin' spider abomination

[violet slate]

ok so like

how that work

how the spider like morph and become spider person

[upbeat kiln]

I haven't read the Spider's lore in ages. But something about a mass grave. I honestly can't remember

I'll have to refer you to the experts lol

[violet slate]

experts

[visual finch]

Mass grave + Sculptor's mojo

[real hinge]

Haha exactly!!

[noble scarab]

The John victor/Voekel guy buried a bunch of people in a mass grave as others have said and the Sculptor just kinda melted them together and changed their internal anatomy to make poison and stuff. Kinda the only thing the Sculptor has ever even sculpted tbh

Wrong person to reply to mb

It’s not stated where the grave was, but does anyone else think it could’ve been that pit out back of iron works?

[wintry root]

The very definition of they/them

[earnest jungle]

Huff was killed in the Summer of 95

[real hinge]

Thanks for clarifying, couldn’t remember exactly when off the top of my head (there’s so much lore to keep track of). Means the sculptor seems to have gone in to overdrive since Huff died then.

[earnest jungle]

Hey doesn’t anyone have the mastery for the Label Aperture?

[ripe inlet]

lebel aperture

[woven grail]

Huff was killed around June to August of the 95, which means yeah,

[earnest jungle]

Do we know where the other two parts of her interview are?

[untold blaze]

I reckon it was that pit, which lead to the creation of the first one

[noble scarab]

Granted it’s not like we have a lack of pits of bodies to choose from

[untold blaze]

Lmao, yeah

[earnest jungle]

Can’t be a pit filled with bodies because those bodies became the spider

[woven grail]

All pits are filled with hope and dreams.

[noble scarab]

What’s the deal with the pit of despair next to Darrow? I get the underground cellar part, but the tunnel and large pit seem to be much newer

Also all the folks digging holes in the bayou, just waiting for a flood

[inner bough]

What’s the deal with all the military installations, Forts and stuff - I get it from a gameplay perspective but are they supposed to be all remnants from the civil war period?

I don’t know too much about US (military) history, but did they keep so many military camps intact and manned after the war ended in the south?

[waxen scarab]

Yes to a degree, they definitely kept them occupied for security reasons, but even going forward a lot of military installations were left occupied simply for historical preservation reasons

[noble scarab]

The civil war was during the 1860s, with reconstruction and occupation occurring long after. So it’s only been really 30 years or so since there was active fighting

Some of them are also probably older as well, dating from during the French occupation and maybe the war of 1812

[inner bough]

i think 30 years ist quite long but i mean thats from todays standpoint

[noble scarab]

That’s fair

[empty owl]

i believe the fort in stilwater was a remnant of the civil war, while the fort in desalle is an actual U.S. army fort that got overruned by the undead at the early stages of the infection

[noble scarab]

the wiki says Carmick was built post War of 1812, then after the Civil War was decommisioned in 1885

[drowsy canopy]

Carmick was decommisioned but there is still US army in the army around Wolfshead and Maw Battery, they would have had paltry garrisons though

the local militia/army may have tried to make a stand at Carmick during the outbreak

but otherwise the only reason its standing is because its a massive stone fort

[noble scarab]

the governor may have had any troops pull out once he heard of an outbreak, maybe at the behest of Huff

or they could've all just died trying to fight the infection

we don't see any solider grunts anywhere, compared to prisoners, wardens, or miners

[real hinge]

There’s mention of Ishim Gird preaching to the military at one of the forts (fort Carmick I think) but that’s when he was a young preacher and before he settled in to healing waters so that would suggest the fort was still in use long before the outbreak

The Governor just believed it to be a plague/sickness and a commoners problem, not sure he’d have bothered pulling troops out. Plus I think the letters in the barracks at the fort mention about the grunts and hell hounds, they also state the soldiers don’t understand why they’re still there.

[noble scarab]

I haven't been able to read those letters besides some of the names, my resolution is too low lmao. Has anyone posted them anywhere?

[drowsy canopy]

https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Soldiers'_letters

someone put them on the wiki

but looked at them through a cracked scope

[noble scarab]

that figures

[earnest jungle]

I always assumed it was a sink hole of some kind. Part of the root cellar caved in creating a new entrance.

[noble scarab]

that'd do it i guess, now its just got that amored that seems to live there 24/7

[fallow dragon]

Any updates on the live action series created by BingeTV?

[inner bough]

Well, its not clear if he really believes that it's a normal sickness. I think he just wanted to cover it up because of his election, so he told the public everything was fine. He left the soldiers stationed there so they couldnt tell anyone. I think he had some kind of deal with Huff, that the AHA contains the infection so that it cant spread, but in return they can do how they please.

Is there any mentioning where the "Mercy Trains" with the orphans come from that Hardin used agains the plague? Maybe thats a hint at the AHA having a deal with the Govenor, as he can use them to get rid of unwanted individuals

[inner bough]

Well, im beginning to think - does the Infection the Grunts carry even spread through the classic "being bitten by a zombie" way?
Since they are moved by larvae being pumped through what has been their blood, it wouldn't make sense that they could infect you with a bite. I mean they don't even try to bite, they just punch or swing weapons.

from my understanding the people in the bayou got infected over the water, maybe the soldiers in fort didnt drink from the same sources. they had their own water supply, so they didnt get infected but they got worn down over time by the endless attacks of the monsters

or they even got killed by the Hunters because a bunch of armed and trained soldiers could pose a threat to the AHA and the governor certainly didnt want them to tell someone about the situation in the bayou.

[real hinge]

Yeah I covered all the options in a video, but he would definitely cover it up with the run up to election and I think that’s the most likely situation. Could definitely be a deal with Huff, the AHA keeps it contained to help him out and he lets the AHA operate without interference. I did discuss a theory that the governor was corrupted by the sculptor (there was something about the sculptor being able to possess people as well) but I don’t fully buy in to that theory, although it is a possibility.

[real hinge]

Yeah I think you’re right, I don’t think it spreads from being bitten. Definitely spreads from water sources, there’s a few mentions about the water source in the lore. It could even spread the way a regular virus does, or perhaps the sculptor’s influence corrupts and turns people 🤷‍♂️

[inner bough]

I think the Governor is "evil" enough by himself - hes just a regular power-hungry, racist and close minded politician in my mind

[real hinge]

I like that idea. We know the AHA are not knights in shining armour - more a punisher style, do whatever it takes

[inner bough]

but who knows 🤷‍♂️

[inner bough]

since the sculptor is known to use "ctrl-c, ctrl-v" the infection wouldn't even have to spread much. maybe the different grunt-models we see in the game is all the people that got infected originally and he just keeps on copying them, just like he does with all the other creatures

but then again, in the book of monsters the grunts are labeled under the category "infected" whilst the others are called "marked"

[real hinge]

Haha yeah, it’s possible the sculptor was even scared of the governors evil 😅

[real hinge]

Haha quick copy spam, feels like he’s using hacks to generate an army of grunts 😅

Yeah I think the grunts are infected people, there’s a theory that the persons consciousness is still aware of everything that’s happening they just have no control over their own bodies (hence the screams of agony when they burn)

[earnest jungle]

I take back every positive thing I've ever said about the real Philip Huff Jones the man was a monster.

The Historical Philip Huff Jones and likely the Fictional Philip Huff Jones joined the Crescent City White League, A white Supremacists organization, in their attempted overthrow of the Reconstruction Era Government of Louisiana in 1874.

[noble scarab]

Crytek picked the right guy to be an incompetent asshole

[hardy cargo]

Or how they react to music

[hardy cargo]

I got tired of trying to look back in the channels to see if this has been asked before and it's probably an odd question but would the leeches and waterdevils be considered undead? The rest of the cast seems pretty clearly undead right? But, leeches don't seem undead in appearance or form. Obviously, enlarged and changed but undead? Even further if they are undead, from their origin within the meathead, how are they dead and are they within it as ordinary leeches with blood being the sole cause for the sculptor's influence? That female hunter which brought the meathead into existence could have had/probably did have ordinary leeches on her somewhere with the bayou being the bayou, but how did that assimilate into the baby which turned into the meathead and not her? I guess you could even ask if the hive's swarms are undead or influenced creatures. I guess at the bottom of it I'm just wondering what people would consider these creatures? I'm sure there aren't answers for a lot of what I asked but what do you think?

[woven grail]

They are not really "undead" yes they are rotting but they are flesh puppets filled with larvae and moths and flies. In the grunt description the body changes just to pump more maggots and Linfae around the body.
More religious hunters say they are zombies, other that they are demons.

[noble scarab]

The water devils are also implied to be juiced up maggots from the rotting meat that some Hunters ate, granted that’s Collins interpretation

[woven grail]

The point that they are still "alive" the soul is just taking the backseat to whatever is controlling the grunt

Consciousness if you are less religiously oriented

[hardy cargo]

Thank you, I was up way too late and thought about that. I like your take though it, I guess it really comes down to if you accept that the physical form is dead and whether there’s a soul or consciousness still behind the things walking in the bayou. The creatures I mentioned are still alive then and just changed. Thank you again!

[earnest jungle]

No they’re undead all of the Hinters refer to them as undead and they appear able to come back from the dead.

[woven grail]

It is one of the themes of hunt, some hunters go and just call them undead, more sciency hunters who study the thing don't.

[grizzled pilot]

could someone explain to me how dark sight and bonties work in lore? l need it for a short story lm writting and idk how to properly implement it

[glad verge]

there's a blood ritual hunters do to get powers

[grizzled pilot]

alright thx for help

[inner bough]

I'd be interested in that short story when you're finished! I'm working on a small DnD Campaign set in the Hunt Universe and I love to get inspired by other peoples Ideas!

[cedar scaffold]

dont add flytraps👍

[grizzled pilot]

I probably wont be writting it in english but we'll see

[inner bough]

google translate then haha

[grizzled pilot]

You cant treat your work like that :c

[woven grail]

Word

[woven grail]

To be a bit more exact, The Ritual is either a vaccine or something they drink ( we are not sure) made of either a Possessed human blood or The blood of a hunter with some herbal additives, That is part of a ritual that hunters use. Other than that what Takyon said is pretty complete to what we know so far.

[grizzled pilot]

thanks

l actually do know how its made and all of that l was just uncertain of practical implementation

[real hinge]

In Chambers’ letters to his father he talks about drinking a liquid during a ritual. So that’s definitely one way, but I’m sure it’s not the only way. He mentions one guy vomited when he drank the liquid and was taken away and shot, so yeah maybe it’s possessed blood and the reaction like that is someone who can’t resist the corruption so is killed before they turn? Just spit balling ideas.

[noble scarab]

Hardin and Lynch use the same serum, Hardin might just have them drink it rather than inject it

Glanton also threw up after he had his herbal shot but was seemingly fine

[woven grail]

I think he made them kill them as a test of loyalty

You know, Mafia style.

[real hinge]

Yeah I mentioned the loyalty idea in my Hardin video. There’s a specific mention of a guy being dragged away by Hardin’s men and executed. Not sure why but shows how loyal his men are to hi.

[real hinge]

Haha too right!! I like the idea that it’s a test of loyalty.

https://www.facebook.com/133541560511130/posts/1220823678449574/?d=n&substory_index=0

Expanding in to other branches of the AHA and other types of monster in the lore by the sounds of it. Fingers crossed for the witch boss from pre-alpha!!

[woven grail]

Oh

So its not that the AHA is in pieces, Is that the Louisiana Branch is in pieces and Huff is not the leader of the AHA, he is the leader of the Louisiana Branch.

I guess it makes more sense.

[real hinge]

Yeah it looks like that might be the case. Pretty exciting that they’re starting to explore the wider lore and AHA across other parts of America

[ebon valve]

Hi there, i'm new to this game and to this server... I noticed this lore channel, but i'm wondering what kind of lore this game has as i haven't really seen anything about it in the game

[upbeat kiln]

It's found in the book of monsters and the weapon mastery section

If you don't feel like reading; @real hinge , @severe mulch and myself make YT content about the lore.

There is also a Wikipedia for the lore - but I don't know how up to date it is

[noble scarab]

Didn’t Huff or someone screw over the NY chapter with bad serum or something, resulting in the near destruction of the chapter?

[ebon valve]

Cool, what's the channel called? I'll go check it out

[upbeat kiln]

Literally exactly that haha. our names

[real hinge]

Thanks for the mention bro!! 👌

[real hinge]

Yeah our YouTubes are our discord names.

[real hinge]

Ooh I’ll have to look that up. Sounds like something he would do. Can you remember where you read that? Would love to read more about that.
I do vaguely remember something like that now, I’ll have a proper look through and see if I can find something about it.

[noble scarab]

It’s in Timothy stones Christmas event pages

Blood and ice I think

[cyan bramble]

is there any concept of art for sinners?

[real hinge]

Awesome. Thanks!

[little swallow]

Hey! My friend mentioned 'Lynch' when he was telling me about a lore. Can anyone please give me tl;dr; to who is it?

[noble scarab]

You should look up HazmatFTW’s wonderful series on YouTube, he did 2 episodes on Lynch’s story.

The basics are that she’s one of these entities herself and has a convoluted grudge against the Sculptor and is working against it

But all info we have on her is from BATS which had an unreliable writer

[spare raft]

I'm not too deep in the lore of Hunt, but i just found that the angel statues in Healing waters church have blood(?) or a different dark substance crying from their eyes. Is there a lore relating answer to why that's happening?

[fallow gorge]

Probably more symbolism than anything relating to lore. Though it may also be a reference to statues of the Holy Mary/Jesus that cry blood

[spare raft]

Ah, I see. Thank you!

[noble scarab]

There’s also the fountain in Pearl that just continually bleeds blood, so that might just be a thing that happens within the corruption zone

[buoyant crystal]

Yo are the twitch drop hunters relevent to the lore or are they just their own person seperate from the story?

[rough ridge]

i think theyre all apart of the story

but theres the foundational story, and i view the legendary hunters as extras for fun

[grizzled pilot]

Twitch drops hunter are usually part of the lore but they are new additions to it which in my opinion is a huge wasted oportunity cuz instead of being nonames who need new stories written for them they could be relevant characters from the lore

[icy brook]

^^

[noble scarab]

Crytek could give us the BATS version of the Twins, with snakeskin and all

[upbeat kiln]

Sorry, Crytek is too busy giving me blue balls with the lore

I wait and I wait

[fluid flax]

How does Darksight work.

[noble scarab]

as far as we know when a Hunter takes the serum a part of their soul gets torn away and stranded in the otherworld/hell/where ever dark sight takes you. once its there it acts as a kind of beacon, which lets the Hunter swap back and forth between the material and the supernaturel planes

[grizzled pilot]

Thats super interesting thx for sharing
Im assuming it doesmt apply to herb thing glanton took?
Actually do we have any evidence that herb serum and lynches serum are diffrent? I mean herbs could be just a way of taking it or something

[inner bough]

With the new Mosin Skin we know that the infection can affect trees/wood, so the herbs they took for the ritual could’ve been infected plants

Something I would never wanna see in game, but from an „extended-universe“ point of view, I‘d like to think that the name Water Devil is an implication that there are different kinds of Devils. That its a kind of classification for swarms of (mutated) creatures moving and attacking as one. So since Water Devils are Eels, other types of „Ground“ Devils could be made of snakes or rats.

[visual finch]

The corruption already spread on some structure and trees in the map also

[inner bough]

yeah true, but now we have written proof of it, thats what I meant

maybe there was other mentions of it before I dont know

[visual finch]

I don't remember

[spiral lynx]

who the hell is mr.orwell chary

and why does he want my blood

[noble scarab]

Glanton’s is the older version, it’s assumed it doesn’t give access to dark sight, it still probably confers some supernatural properties such as increased strength and durability. Lynch’s version is a newer invention which is made from distilled demons blood then mixed with certain chemicals that cause sterility in women and fully grant access to dark sight and a whole range of abilities. Lynch’s serum also is known to cause the Hunters to become more corrupted and eventually many die from it. Their skin pales and developed lesions, their hair falls out, it’s assumed their soul is also gone as well. Certain ones have more resistance to this than others, judging from the tier 3s appearance

[grizzled pilot]

it always seemed super dumb to me that anyone would use the one made by lynch

and thruth be told l dont really know how its distributed to anyone whos not lynchs puppy

[noble scarab]

I’m sure she didn’t tell people it’d steal their soul and give them a supernatural illness

[grizzled pilot]

well thats obvious enough its lynch we are talking about but it kinda shows you know

you said it yourself

[noble scarab]

people like Hardin and Huff probably knew or figured out about the effects and then just continued to not give a fuck

[fallow gorge]

I'm confident hunters know the side effects by the time hunt takes place but don't care about it

[noble scarab]

I mean if someone offered you a serum that gave you heightened senses, strength, durability, access to supernatural traits, the ability to just straight up see into hell, and the only cost is that it might make you sick after a while, it’s not a huge leap to see why people do it

[fallow gorge]

I'm sure other hunters or initiates have seen what the serum has done to the older hunters yet still choose to take the serum anyways

Regardless they would still take it without knowing any side effects due to the nature/personality of someone even wanting to be a hunter in the first place

[silent topaz]

What does the glass thing in the corner of the map mean?

[rocky bloom]

Utah Monolith Easter Egg

[autumn parrot]

Guys hear me out I just noticed this, Hunt is in the 1890s But blood type was invented in 1901 and if you inject someone else's blood that isn't compatible with you you will die so the blood syringes that we have are our own blood that we have gotten from our self's before coming to banish the monsters what do you guys think?

[lofty sequoia]

the vit shot is blood?

so what's the blood difference in the weak vit shot and the strong one?

[noble scarab]

The vitality shots aren’t blood, though there is probably a bit of some kind of blood in there

The small one is just a smaller dosage

It was developed first if I recall right, as a test

[empty owl]

potency i assume

[inner bough]

The syringes aren’t blood I think. And even if the explanation wouldn’t hold up since you can pick up syringes from dead hunters, get them from tool boxes or (in quickplay) find them lying about in the bayou.

If it was blood you could explain it with the hunters being physically changed through their blood ritual - which as far as I understood blood from a demon being injected - so if you can survive that you might be tolerant to getting injected with all kinds of stuff

[autumn parrot]

TBH your right I didn't think about that part of it

[austere storm]

So what's the lore behind the quickplay aspect of the game?

I know you need to drain the wellspring to save your soul but what was tha catalyst for you needing to save your soul? Are the hunters in quickplay hunters that died while trying to collect a bounty and now the night whisperer (or whatever it'd called in the revenant's back story) or some other entity is offering these dead hunters a chance to save their soul but making them fight for it?

[clear meadow]

Does somebody have a good video explaining the lore of hunt?
DMS open

[inner bough]

I mean it’s easy to think that your health = your blood, your health bar is red and bleeding has this leaking effect to it, being poisoned turns it green and burning doesn’t direkt affect your blood but your body as a whole

But I think that’s just more symbolic

[inner bough]

In the letter from Huff it’s just says somehow hunters got damned and these rifts appeared but they are rare so you might have to fight other for it, but that doesn’t explain why there’s weapons all over the place

I like to think the hunters in quickplay are those who got corrupted or sick by the ritual blood and letting them fight each other for the cure is just a way to sort out the skillful ones
But yeah, it would be cooler if QP was happening in some kind of limbo and it’s the dead hunters fighting each other for a chance to get back into life

[noble scarab]

Look up Matterpillar and HazmatFTW

[real hinge]

Thanks for the mention!! I will be putting out more frequent videos going forward as well

[vernal stag]

I'm noticing that the wiki is falling out of date when it comes to adding entries for news weapons. It's also missing most of the small notes for ammo types. Is there another place to find a complete collect of all notes from unlocks? Otherwise, I think I might start adding in portions myself to get the wiki in better shape.

[inner bough]

no, not really, sadly. I had to do a lot of research myself and thought about contributing to the wiki but im lacking the time atm

[jovial basin]

honestly, the wiki has barely been a help. i only look at it when im out of home. else i just look ingame

the only good thing is the updates, but they still are hard to find

[near mountain]

I wanna know more about the blood cults

[opaque glade]

so what's the lore on Steel Eyed?

or as I like to call him

Van Hohenheim

[untold blaze]

My headcanon is that he’s a former Civil War sniper, cause he’s got the Civil War sniper glasses, and just kinda gives off a sniper vibe

[opaque glade]

ah

I think he looks like Van Hohenheim from Fullmetal Alchemist

[untold blaze]

I have never seen that anime tbh

Is it good?

[opaque glade]

I read the manga for it

it's nice

[untold blaze]

Huh, sick

Honestly I’m gonna download twitch just to get that skin

[grizzled pilot]

There will be probably a lot of it next update when they add new weapons/variants
Not much for now

[lethal tusk]

I was thinking more of wolverine from the Xmen. He would be alive then and him respawning in the bayou would not be hard to believe 😋

[grizzled pilot]

Could you tell me something about them civil war sniper glasses? I mean how were they supposed to help and such cuz l have never heard of them

[lethal tusk]

https://www.thestoryoftexas.com/discover/artifacts/sniper-glasses

[noble scarab]

Mans looks a bit young to be a civil war sniper, but I’m sure he could’ve picked up a pair, or maybe had a parent that was one

Eh I guess it wouldn’t be out of the question for him to be in the 40-50 range, in which case it might work

[bold tiger]

https://civilwartalk.com/threads/please-do-your-research-these-are-not-civil-war-glasses.155088/?amp=1

[lethal tusk]

Which makes sense because the "sharpshooter" was not something really recognized in the army till later wars. My previous post was a simple Google search, and the museum website popped up. My apologies for spreading mis-information.

[grizzled pilot]

damn it sounded pretty cool

shame

[lethal tusk]

Right

[bold tiger]

It sounded too interesting to me to not look up,

Judging by the time period it's probably a pair of glasses to see if a dogs liver is emphatically phlogistonated. Made out of carcinogens and high explosives

[grizzled pilot]

seems about right

[lethal tusk]

but the frames appear to be time period accurate....so theres that...

Im curious about his necklaces. It looks like he has a bunch of bullet casings and also the slug part of the bullet, each on their own string. Are those casings where hes killed people, and the slugs are the ones thats tried to kill him....and again that would work if he was wolverine/logan. He could dig them out later and put them on a necklace.

[noble scarab]

That’d make sense, minus the Wolverine part

Normal Hunters already are probably pulling bullets out of themselves regularly

[lethal tusk]

Hahha

[vernal stag]

New lore posted as part of the They Came From Salem DLC. Possibly hinting at a new boss type we could get this year. Specifically it mentions letters written to new york, so that's perfectly set up to be the lore unlocks for the new boss too.

[icy brook]

Perhaps he was once a confederate sniper or one of Berdan’s sharps shooters in ye olde civil war

[earnest jungle]

Where is this posted?

Never mind found it on the steam page

Seems to be foreshadowing either a new boss or a new monster

[real hinge]

Can you drop a link? I’m being lazy 😅

[noble scarab]

When she was just a little girl, Circe’s grandmother sat her down and told her the history of the Elias family. She told Circe that while many innocent lives were taken in Salem, there was such a thing as a witch. They would parade around in the skins of women and haunt entire towns. They would attract young girls to their side so that when their costumes became too loose with age, they always had something new to slip into. Circe’s grandmother told her that it was the job of the Elias family to find these witches and end them, snuff out every single one until there was nothing but rumor and ash left.

The Witch Hunter

Descended from a long line of witch hunters, Circe Elias was raised ready to fight the unknown. When word got to the New York branch of the AHA about Louisiana, Circe knew she needed to go put her lineage and training to work.

Pasted from the steam description

I’m hoping it’s a new monster, though it doesn’t seem as if the Sculptor is responsible for these

[real hinge]

Ah sweet. Thanks 🙏 would be awesome to get a witch boss, something similar to the pre alpha gameplay witch would fit well.

[upbeat kiln]

Omg.. a witch in this universe could be amazing though.

[upbeat kiln]

It could be.. something else than the Sculptor

https://tenor.com/view/dundundun-suspense-scary-shocker-gif-6070360

[untold blaze]

I agree wholeheartedly, because he seems like the weasely sharpshooter type of folk

[real hinge]

It would be awesome. There was the witch boss in the pre-alpha so fingers crossed!

[upbeat kiln]

lol you know what Hunt needs? A regular enemy that stun locks you. I think that would make the player-base endlessly thrilled and overjoyed 🤣

Like the witch in the early concepts, that would grab you with chains and lock you in place? Oh, combined with hives and immolators it would be a wonderful experience! 😄

Bet you that thing would have some sadistic lore behind it too

would probably be veeery juicy

[real hinge]

Haha definitely! Whack in some dark souls level difficulty to spice things up. Maybe something that’s attracted to banishments.

I can just see the amount of rage quitting happening with that. But would love a more challenging boss and some more difficulty with the ai. Don’t get me wrong I still mess up and die to ai and bosses sometimes.

The lore would be awesome! Probably something to do with how the witch died or maybe what she did. Something like her baby dying so she went mad, kidnapped a bunch of babies and sacrificed them to a pagan god with the promise of her child being brought back to life 🤷‍♂️

[noble scarab]

I hope we’ll get some more info on the NY infection and the Hunters there

[real hinge]

I think there was mention somewhere that it was dealt with pretty swiftly. But would be awesome to get some more lore on what exactly happened

[noble scarab]

yea it was taken care of, being mostly just grunts, but it also resulted in the destruction of most of the chapter due to Huff or Lynch providing bad serum, so it'd be interesting to see more of that

[real hinge]

Yeah for sure. I wonder if they’re planning a NY based map, or at least some legendary hunters from NY so we can get more of the lore.

[crystal agate]

They do have the DLC "They came from Salem" coming out soon, which includes a couple weapon skins, medkit skin and a witch hunter female legendary, Salem of course referring to the Salem witch trials in Massachusetts in the 1690s

[real hinge]

Yeah that should expand on some more of the history of the aha and other organisations. Perhaps the Salem witches were actually a real witch coven ended by the aha or similar organisation. In England we actually had a Witchfinder general (Matthew Hopkins) in the 1600s so there’s so much they could draw from by adding witch hunters and other organisations and witches

[crystal agate]

Forgot to add that they did mention that there is a New York branch of the AHA (American Hunter Association) in the bio for the Witch Hunter as well

[real hinge]

Yeah there’s been a couple of mentions in some previous lore but always good to get current updates to it. Confirms the Hunt: Showdown world has plenty of room to grow

[grizzled pilot]

Correct me if lm wrong but there is usually very little lore in the dlc and all the legendary item descriptions are available already

[noble scarab]

A lot of the dlc lore comes from weapons or variants that are introduced later that include pages that talk about the legendaries, for example the Scottfield entries all talk about Sophia and Lulu

[grizzled pilot]

Thats true but dlcs dont provide us with anything specific

[swift steppe]

It's a shame the game itself doesn't give much lore

[grizzled pilot]

🤨

[real hinge]

Yeah nothing massively specific. Some odd filler for characters or the weapons themselves.

[noble scarab]

It’s not much but it’s all we got

[distant escarp]

there's lots of lore in the book entries

[tall palm]

Damn there is a lore discussion here

I have a long delay to catch up perfect when im at work XD

[lunar sky]

Does mr chary even fit in with the lore or is he just here 🤣

[grizzled pilot]

he is just there

[lunar sky]

He needs blood donors because he lost a little I guess

[empty owl]

mr. chary sure does sounds similar to charon for some reason

[true sand]

Maybe that's his thing, he does give a life back if you're lucky enough after all.

[grizzled pilot]

There is no 'his thing' he is just there so they can shove in lootboxes
Digging deeper into it is just a waste of time imo

[true sand]

I wasn't digging deeper, just was an observation.

[noble scarab]

Eh we might eventually get some context for it

[empty owl]

ngl i wouldn't really mind an explanation of mr. chary being this rich "benevolent" mystery figure that backs the AHA

[radiant lake]

Am I crazy or isn't Mr. Chary the Devil's Advocate? I remember the name Chary from the christmas event and so when they used the name again when they introduced the dark tributes, I recognized the name

Maybe it's not the devil's advocate but I 100% remember the name Chary being used in the christmas event

[empty owl]

Mr Chary offered us contracts during the christmas event

the devil's advocate is a different person

[true sand]

Still mad I couldn't get that damn skin.

[noble scarab]

Devils advocate = Henry Trapp

Based on traditional krampus lore

Should be von Trapp

[untold blaze]

Henry Von Trapp seems very fitting for how cruel he apparently is lore wise

[noble scarab]

mans not called the Christmas scarecrow for nothing

[vernal stag]

Finch is indicated to play that kind of a role in the lore

[empty owl]

finch would be the chessmaster within lore

mr chary is just some benefactor

[vernal stag]

Ah, I see what you mean

[lethal tusk]

So lets talk about these torches the grunts carry. I get that some building fires and bon fires stay lit....but how do the grunts torches stay lit for so long. Yes we are only in there for an hour. But these grunts have been in there for a little longer than that.

I know the grunts are still "in there" but does that go as far as relighting there torch when it goes out?

[noble scarab]

Possibly, also the torches could just get regenerated whenever the Sculptor recreates certain grunts, similar to how the Butcher just has a flaming meat hook 24/7

[lethal tusk]

I was thinking that the Butchers hook was part of the magic that was keeping him alive. So i didnt associate the too, but thats a good point.

Or that makes him a boss

[winged spoke]

Who's to say it's earthly fire? I wouldn't see it as a big stretch if it were ever burning hell fire

[harsh ruin]

any translators? on the Mary's centennial

[lethal tusk]

Anyone ever notice that red shirt has a bullet hole in the front of his hat, that also comes out the back...Lucky man.

[noble scarab]

I’m not sure what that’s in, doesn’t seem to be Voynich unless the wikis alphabet is wrong

[harsh ruin]

i figured it out, its biblical hebrew which makes a ton of sense, will update when i have a proper translation

[harsh ruin]

someones shot the target too

[lethal tusk]

True, but it doesnt look like its penetrated to the back on e hehe

[harsh ruin]

that isnt the language on the weapon

its biblical Hebrew like the old testament

[rocky bloom]

Ahh sorry that's the Voynich script I thought they used in the game

[harsh ruin]

its totally okay

[harsh ruin]

UPDATE on the translation of the writing on the new old testament skin, apparently it is the 10 commandments

[harsh void]

Quick question. We know game takes place in about 1895 right? But do we know for how long the zombies are roaming in the bayou by that time?

[noble scarab]

Large numbers showed up starting in very late 1894, continuing through 1896 +

Previously there was an isolated incident in Blanchett in 1780ish where about a dozen zombies appeared

[pseudo sierra]

Hebrew. Dead simple.

[icy brook]

Can you provide a translation then?

[pseudo sierra]

Just find it with Hebrew translation.

[icy brook]

[harsh ruin]

It’s the 10 commandments

[icy brook]

Nice, thank you

[harsh ruin]

Np

[harsh ruin]

for those curious this is the full verse exodus 20:2-17

“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

“You shall have no other gods before[a] me.

“You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

“You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.

“Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

“Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.

“You shall not murder."

“You shall not commit adultery.

“You shall not steal.

“You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”

according to the translator the inscirption isnt the full text and part of it repeats,

…the name of the Lord your God in vain; you shall not murder; you shall not steal.

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour.

…for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain; you shall not commit adultery; in vain you shall not take [part of the third commandment]…

[earnest jungle]

Has anyone unlocked the lore for the new weapons?

[restive patrol]

It's not even in the book of weapons on test yet x)

[earnest jungle]

Damn

[noble scarab]

I bet we get more lulu/Sophia, a continuation of Berthier guy, and something with the last twitch Hunter

[vernal stag]

Is it ever said somewhere who the initials RN belong to who makes all of the notes for the ammo types? I can only glean that he's writing observations from further in the timeline and looking back.

[noble scarab]

Research notes, assumedly it’s various future AHA researchers or it’s an older Harold Black

[drowsy canopy]

In the Louisiana event book there it was implied that the events of Hunt were being uncovered by modern researchers, with references to the 'punk era' on pages 5-6

it speaks of an image of surviving Voyinch script in Louisiana as being from the early 19th century like time fo Hunt is by now significantly in the past

this means the "Louisiana Event" book was written decades after the events of Hunt at least and that RN could very well be a modern researcher or AHA member trying to dig up what happened in Louisiana

[noble scarab]

future AHA researchers: How did we fuck this up so bad

[drowsy canopy]

or worse: OH GOD OH GOD HOW DID WE KILL IT LAST TIME....

[vital pier]

bullets, lots of bullets

[noble scarab]

that seems to be how the AHA solves all problems, via excessive violence

poltergiest issue? shoot it. Meathead? shoot it. random farm house thats not on fire? shoot it

[real hinge]

With the release of they came from Salem I went on a bit of a mission to research more about witch hunters etc (I already knew some facts and events but not much) and I ended up making a lore theory video - The Witch. It’s up on my YouTube I’d love some feedback. I know We’re not allowed to post links to our content directly here so I won’t. But it’s lore related and think we could get a good discussion going.

[noble scarab]

I'd love to see another entity being represented ala a witch or something that doesn't come from the Sculptor. They've already stated that these things are evidently pre-Sculptor in nature as well

[real hinge]

Yeah agreed. There’s definitely other entities beyond the sculptor and would be great to see some of them make their way in to the game. A witch makes sense to me given that there’s already occult powers and there’s a rich history of witches/witch hunts etc in America and Europe.

[near mountain]

Does Mr Chary truly thanks you? Does he feel appreciation in his heart when you help him? Is his gratitude genuine? Or is it purely just business?

I personally feel like Mr Chary doesnt recognize my efforts

He just throws anything he finds in his pockets like i was some pitiful irritating beggar bothering him

[noble scarab]

I think his thanks is a formality

[empty owl]

i think its just me but the whole Mr. Chary thing feels like some kind of a ruse for some kind of a blood ritual

AHA or non AHA

[earnest jungle]

Hey guys what's the name of Steel Eyed again it was Red Something

[winter basalt]

The name's Red Descot

[earnest jungle]

thanks

[rotund ferry]

What exactly is darksight boost?

Does it work against normal people?

Also how does it work- is it like a heat signature? Becoming more attuned to the energy of people?

[rotund ferry]

Why, what does he do during his bouts of cruelty

Aside from murder

[noble scarab]

folkloric-ly speaking Henry von Trapp/Hons von Trotha was a cannibal as well as a murderer. The real figure as from way back when in Germany was a robber baron and a knight of ill repute, he subjugated a number of peasants and monks, which resulted in him becoming this devilsh figure we know today

[noble scarab]

I would think it would only work on Hunters and monsters, anything that's been tied to the Otherworld in some way is probably visible using it. It assumedly works just as power boost, just allowing for more precise "seeing"

[rotund ferry]

Oh that’s… horrifying

I’m assuming the Trapp we have in game is more of a serial killer than anything else

[rotund ferry]

I see, so it’s like a temporary enhancement

I wonder what happens if you don’t use it up in time/get rid of it

[noble scarab]

It probably dissipates as soon as the bounty token is handed off

[untold blaze]

Woah, that is both badass and fucking terrifying, thank you

[opaque ingot]

Ok right where's the first instance of trios hunting bois

[noble scarab]

springfield entries

[empty owl]

wasn't the springfield entries came from the mountain man's pov?

[noble scarab]

it was

though it seemed that he was being portrayed as a teller of tall tales, so it might be another case unreliable narrator

[earnest jungle]

The Researcher made a note of pointing out how powerless and helpless Bridger comes off in these stories. Unlike most of his other stories he is a side character, a helpless witness to immense horror.

That Bridger comes off as a pathetic almost pitiable figure in this story seems to attest to its veracity.

Because if he was lying he would lie to make himself look more central and powerful.

[noble scarab]

Interesting, I’ll have to give those another read

[winter basalt]

I thought it was Carter that was a teller of tall tales, wasn't it?

[noble scarab]

I’d thought both of them might’ve been, but per Rexli it was more just Carter

[near mountain]

What are Cain's motives? Is he a cultist, or just a crazed murderer?

[noble scarab]

depressed insane caveman

My personal theory is that he's one of the Desalle bros, gone insane after killing his brother, now living in the bayou

[near mountain]

Interesting

[noble scarab]

changed his name out of remorse and made his brother into parts used in a Specter, then started carrying around the bones of his victims

[empty owl]

i can't seem to find any other entries from charlie salter's perspective other than the CnK entries, are there any others?

[pearl abyss]

Ok real question who the guy who makes the bee jars and sells them?

Like does he capture them himself or what

[lethal tusk]

Right?

[noble scarab]

its Lynch that does it iirc

she probably just magics it in there

[near mountain]

but she would have to make them like in giant quantities

there has to be like a noted down way for hunters to catch those themselves. imo

[tardy sentinel]

The wasp salesman of course

[near mountain]

I can see that being a thing actually

someone capturing and breeding these corrupted wasps

[empty owl]

what about that bee farm near upper desalle?

[slate mountain]

i thought they imprisoned the hives themselves

[potent merlin]

The silence of DeSalle is broken when a man goes "HEAR YE HEAR YE, COME GET YOUR JARS OF BEES RIGHT HERE!"

[drowsy canopy]

they probably lure the wasps into the jar with some kind of bait then sedate them with something like smoke

after which the close the jar on top of the wasps

[lethal tusk]

Given how the bees work. It's most likely body parts used as bait...so now you have another party supplying the bait. You think someone comes in after a match and collects all the dead hunters....

[noble scarab]

Anyone got any thoughts on Hail Mary? A disgraced and excommunicated nun attempting to make amends by Hunting

Looking at her guns, her derringer is covered in eyes, not unlike how angels are depicted in certain Bible passages. She was evidently excommunicated due to her derringer, presumably she shot someone with it

nothing terribly interesting with the cent sniper

[earnest jungle]

I assume the hives contain on them a chunk of the hive taken from the Hives.

[final hornet]

Battle nuns are always cool

[pearl abyss]

New hunter idea The Bee collector. Special skin is a bee bomb that has a brand on it lol

[lethal tusk]

40k battle sisters are the best hehe

[nocturne wharf]

Ah... Ha... Well they'd prolly neuter you with a flaming sword for even considering that, specifically because it doesn't hold enough devotion to the Emperor

[lunar sky]

Y’all ever think mr chary is just a doctor collecting blood for sickly kids and pays you what he could manage to pay at the time

[noble scarab]

That mf better not be, Hunter's bloods got demons in it

[near mountain]

What excatly is a demon in this world?

[lyric loom]

dude couldn't think of a better way to collect it other than putting the hunters in the middle of an ominous candlelit chamber and letting em rip their palm open?

im beginning to question the legitimacy of his medical license

[noble scarab]

they are thought to be a type of spirit, but most of our info on them comes from BATS which has varying levels of legitimacy, but Lynch would capture these spirits using a tortured and flay person, then bind them in flesh ropes before distilling them down into the serum used to create Hunters

[drowsy canopy]

Demons are as far as we know for sure otherworldly intruders that manifest in most a physical sense as monsters and mentally as a corrputing influence on the minds and bodies of men and beast

The demon in question for Hunt is known as 'the sculptor'... these 'demons' are intelligent but perhaps differently so than humans so much so that its hard to know if what motivates them or if they are actually have malevolent intentions for mankind... therefore their motivation and intelligence is irrelevant only how to combat them... inoculation through 'demon's blood' extracted from supernatural creatures to fight the mental effects, bullets to deal with physical manifestations

[radiant hinge]

This could be possible considering he used the name Cain like from Cain & Abel

[nocturne wharf]

I think you mean "cure the physical illnesses"

With bullets ofc

[near mountain]

Yea i see now, he did too murder his brother

"I shall be a restless wanderer on the earth and whoever finds me will kill me"

but also whoever kills Cain will suffer a curse

I like how most fictions take ideas from the Bible, kinda like how most fantasy stuff takes ideas from LoTR

[valid flicker]

Louisiana

[frank bobcat]

Apparently it grows in the womb

[quick spade]

and out it comes, surprise, ITS BEES

[raven horizon]

Probably well trod ground but this would fit so well with the lore. Any speculation on a lycanthrope in the boss queue?

[noble scarab]

They did release a skin line themed around the rougarou and the upcoming event seems to be moon themed, so it’s certainly on their radar

[jovial basin]

wolf at the doorstep dlc

[supple gate]

The lebel once bitten skin talks about a werewolf attack, crytek have been dropping hints and little details around for a while now so Im hoping we get a werewolf boss soon also there is this little detail from the new trailer

[jovial basin]

is it werewolf or just wolf?

the skin attack story

we def need more skins around that anyway

[supple gate]

Agreed and Ill double check but seen as the skin is called one bitten and we know how werewolf bites work I think its safe to assume also these new skins for the event remind me of the same hieroglyphs on the blood moon crown

oop found this when looking for the lebel one this is the description for the dlc itself

[silver yacht]

well shit looks like Mr. Cherry is a polite motherfucker even inviting us like we even have a choice

[earnest jungle]

And it looks like he’s our new boss

Also looks like we’ve got Chary’s silhouette in the trailer

[tired spear]

So Chary is the AHA's administrator. Huh.

[noble scarab]

Oh wtf? So I guess he’s over the whole AHA

That doesn’t explain the contracts or blood offerings

[raven horizon]

In my head it's like a bloodsport for occultists. Mr. Chary comes off very Mr. Crowley to me.

[hoary thorn]

I wonder if the blood Mr Chary collects from hunters is used to combat the corruption in the Bayou.

Or rather prevent its spread.

[quick spade]

its a nice drink

[lethal tusk]

Well we are donating experience, so perhaps we are teaching other hunters. Also the blood sacrifice might be for the use in making the vitality shots, and the hunt inoculation potions also. All in the line of a hunters duty. Which kind of explains why its a tier 3 hunter and not a legendary. Someone who works for the AHA more exclusively.

[winged spoke]

is there a lore reason as to how new weapons are introduced? like why hasn't been the slate or the new army in the hunter's arsenal until now?

[icy brook]

Perhaps suppliers were just able to deal them out, or large contracts from Winfield and Caldwell were recently delivered

[noble scarab]

could also be issue with getting them in, considering most of the weapons are smuggled in via carcass

[icy brook]

^

[sleek crest]

It seems kinda over the top to expect lore for that sort of thing

IMO

[noble scarab]

so from the scant descriptions from the dev stream and event page, it looks like Chary is attempting to manipulate the Sculptor & the corruption

[low totem]

he probably went insane, i doubt hes good anymore. if he ever was

[sleek crest]

Ooh… Sounds fun

Manipulating eldritch entities is tight

[hoary thorn]

If he was insane he would have been assassinated like the last guy in charge of the AHA

[noble scarab]

Huff was just the head of the Louisiana branch, this guy is supposedly the head of the whole thing

which brings up the question as to how the AHA operates

Theres the NY chapter that was devestated, that Circe is from, then presumably theres others

[empty owl]

maybe he's a head of an unseen branch of the AHA, washington?

considering that the AHA has ties to the U.S. government and the whole "Mr. Chary is the head of the AHA" angle, i'm fairly confident that he's the one that forefront the organization when dealing with the head of state

[noble scarab]

Cleveland was president during that year, so I'd guess Chary would report to him

"Mr president, the bayous haunted"

[empty owl]

sounds plausible

[lethal tusk]

Like with stargate SG1, General Hammond reported to the president directly. Perhaps the AHA is a department of the DOJ (department of justice), in some way.

[upbeat kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/my-god-what-did-i-just-read-mindblown-gif-7897545

[hazy flame]

where can i find all the lore for the game

?

[restive patrol]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit?usp=sharing

[lunar sky]

I love how one day the sculptor was like “hmmm zombies : )”

[grizzled pilot]

aah yes the big dead

[noble scarab]

The Sculptor woke up one day and chose zombies

Memes aside tho, it just seems that whatever otherworldly corruption this stuff is, just makes zombies. They seem to occur frequently, in multiple places, the the bayou, to NY, presumably the Cascades, maybe in other areas as well

[visual finch]

I'm pretty hyped up for the coming lore bits in the event

[sleek crest]

I wonder if each region has totally different mobs with the exception of bulk standard walkers

[hoary thorn]

How is it that the AHA remains to be a secret organisation then?

If this stuff is occuring literally everywhere

It'd be much harder to cover up vs it being localised inside Louisiana.

Like surely someone's going to put 2 and 2 together when they see large amounts of agents with guns enter these corrupt regions.

[sleek crest]

AHA is literally unsustainable anyway since everybody is killing each other

[hoary thorn]

So something will come to a breaking point?

Either the public finds out or Mr Chary needs to step in and tell all the various splinter factions to slow the fuck down on killing one another.

[visual finch]

I remember, but i could be wrong, some of the lore pages being read as those are being read by a present day researcher

Probably in the Grunt page

[noble scarab]

Far as we know, it’s widespread but in small quantities, everywhere had legends of demons and monsters, but you know no one really believes it. These areas are also typically isolated, such as the bayou and presumably rural parts of NY. Plus with this being pre-mass communication it’s harder for news to spread. I’d imagine if you’d look too deep into it, you’d find the AHA and either join or be killed. The governor of Louisiana was part of the cover up of this outbreak saying it was just malaria. That being said, locals did notice and mention the gunfire, but they seemed to not do much about it.

[noble scarab]

We know at some point the issue was resolved, because modern researchers are talking about it in many of the entries.

We just don’t know how yet. Hopefully we get some info on that during this event, but I’ve yet to start it so I wouldn’t know

[noble scarab]

so reading the first few things in the event page: the Sculptor is able to manipulate people using the moon's influence somehow. Chary is working to manipulate both. He seems to be able to give cursed weapons to folks as experiments or really bad pranks.

[iron basalt]

I'm not that much into lore but good luck guys!

[earnest jungle]

The implication seems to be that people know but they're living in denial. People know they're are monsters and demons in the swamps but they're pretending they don't so they don't have to address all of the metaphysical implications that come with those monsters and demons. And it's easier and more comfortable to pretend.

It's magical thinking: "Acknowledging the demons makes the demons real. If you don't acknowledge the demons they're not real and can't affect us."

Denial is a powerful drug

[noble scarab]

^De Nile is also a river in Egypt, but that’s a good point. I think it’s in Scrapbeak’s entry, when the dude is on trial while attempting to describe the horrors of the bayou, but people don’t really seem to acknowledge it, or think he’s nuts

[noble scarab]

oh ok so Chary is only the head of the AHA in Louisiana

He's replaced Huff and evidently has the trust of Finch and other Hunters

[dire knoll]

more occult weapons incoming

[devout cedar]

Here is entire lore from Traitor's Moon Event

*posted a video because I dont wanna spam this channel. Feel free to pause

[restive patrol]

so Mr. Chary is the sculptor?

[noble scarab]

Thanks!

just from reading the first few we have context for whats happening on the contract pages

flesh melting off

[noble scarab]

so it doesnt sound like he is the Sculptor, but he's clearly some sort of either enity, or powerful human occultist, maybe like a reverse Lynch situation

speaking of which I wonder what Lynch's & the Twin's opinion on this guy are

[rotund ferry]

Thanks dude

[ocean linden]

I always figured Mr Chary wasn’t quite a good guy. Interesting stuff, but does anyone feel like the tone of this lore is a bit different that what we’ve seen before? Seems a bit more straightforward and even more supernatural like bodies sinking into the floor and a talking Moon entity

[noble scarab]

it reads more like BATS does

so maybe this could be a "lost" chapter of BATS, or BATS was just like that

meaning that it was accurate

speaking of which they haven't added mastery pages for the new varients/guns either yet

hopefully soon

[ocean linden]

Those will come after they release the weapons to everyone

Same thing happened with the bow and axe

[restive patrol]

feel you on that for sure, previous lore was less fantasy, yes the occult was there, but it didn't have literal bodies sinking into the floor (it was more like a permeating natural thing). also it wasn't as straightforward like you said, old lore required you to piece it together and you had unreliable narrators to figure out

[hoary thorn]

Can’t believe you gaslit me about that.

Also. I assume this means we’ll see Kevin as a future legendary hunter?

[noble scarab]

I blame the devs for being intentionally ambiguous in their descriptions

[somber flax]

I was wondering if anyone knew more about the devil's advocate skin? for example in his description is says that when his dark urges build up he dons the devil's mask is this mask simply a tribute to the devil or is it something more important if anyone has some more content on this hunter that would be great.

[icy brook]

It seems the Devil’s Advocate skin and the hunter in the costume are using the Germanic tradition of Krampus to act out his violent tendencies, he’s wearing a pretty accurate traditional Krampus costume when he hunts

https://www.stnicholascenter.org/media/images/k/krampus-austria.jpg

[somber flax]

Hmm ok

well thank you

[noble scarab]

devils advocate = hans von throtha lookin ass

[earnest jungle]

Okay so Mr. Charry is obviously the "traitor" in traitor's moon but what's the connection to The Kid, La Llarona, The Rat, and the Merridian Turncoat relate to all of this?

[icy brook]

I’m wondering that as well

I was under the assumption they were some how in cooperation and at least one turned

[earnest jungle]

They can’t be the three successful hunters from the story because there’s four of them and none of them are named Thomas Engles or Mary Ochenkov.

[noble scarab]

I’m thinking they’re considered traitors somehow and, thus are related tangentially

The turncoat is self explanatory,
The Rats father was a traitor or something, I think

Unsure of the other two

Maybe the kid started the fire that killed his family

[somber flax]

or maybe his family had ties and someone betrayed someone and the fire was a planned act however the kid escaped

[earnest jungle]

I don’t that’s it.

The Rat is a reference to Tucco from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly whose story matches up with her father’s.

[noble scarab]

Yea that’s fair, that was my only idea as to why those specifically

There’s better traitor and turncoats besides those too, ie Blackcoat

Otherwise I think the devs might’ve just picked a handful of uncommon Hunters to highlight

[earnest jungle]

The kid is the closest one since it’s strongly implied he caused or was otherwise responsible for the fire that killed his two siblings Ash and Ember though

But the Meridian Turncoat is strongly implied to have been framed for the betrayal of his regiment

[noble scarab]

He was, but the name stuck

It’s shame his guns didn’t give us more info

They do have the names of his comrades of each medal

[earnest jungle]

And they’re featured so prominently in the trailer and they even get bonuses to event points.

[noble scarab]

They had signed Chary’s contracts

[earnest jungle]

I expected them to have some kind of connection to the Story about Mr. Chary or to Weapon Mastery entries.

[noble scarab]

They might, once the lore pages drop

[earnest jungle]

But they’re not dropping until well after the event ends.

[noble scarab]

Which is annoying^

I’m still curious as to how Chary became the head of the AHA

Well the Louisianan branch

[earnest jungle]

That’s another thing: I think the game is focusing too much on introducing new characters and telling their stories.

When was the last time we got anything on Lynch, the Twins, or John Voelkel.

That whole story arc seems to have just ended abruptly.

[noble scarab]

How he did gain the trust of Finch? Or the Hunters? Did the fighting stop? Do other branches recognize him as leader? What do the Twins think of him? What about Hardin?

Huff was a doctor and a bit of a politician, he could manage people

Chary doesn’t seem qualified

[icy brook]

My thoughts exactly

[noble scarab]

Unless he just moon magiced his way in

[earnest jungle]

My impression of Chary is that he’s a sliver tongued fiend with “friends on the other side.”

He’s charming enough to get people to go along with his plans even when they should know better and he’s far from an ordinary human.

[noble scarab]

I had the thought of him being like Lynch, but the opposite, a human trying to become an entity

Or something along those lines

[earnest jungle]

He definitely has access to supernatural power and he definitely wants more

Something has occurred to me

Our good old pal Russel Chambers who definitely deserves a legendary white/black shirt skin already mentioned that after Huff died someone took his place before being disposed of

Perhaps Chary is this man

[noble scarab]

Could be, so would this then be set still right after Huffs death?

Still summer of 95?

[earnest jungle]

Could be

It’s honestly hard to tell when events take place

[noble scarab]

That time line is all kinds of messed up

[earnest jungle]

It’s not even a timeline at this point it’s a time knott

[noble scarab]

Well, what about the Christmas contracts? We see Stone sign one of those

The events seem to be at least semi canon

Could’ve also been during the winter if 94 I guess

He might’ve been doing those contacts for awhile

[earnest jungle]

The thing I’ve come to suspect is that it’s no longer possible to believe this all is still happening in 1895

Just based on this and Chary

I think it’s safe to say we’re well into 1896

[noble scarab]

We also have those dlc flares that back that up

Other questions; since when is the moon just straight up magic?

[sleek crest]

Since Sokka kissed it

[earnest jungle]

The Lore Writers state they've been drawing inspiration from European Mysticism and Neo-Paganism and the moon is very influential in both.

[noble scarab]

Is the sun also magic? Did that Hunter that made the Obsidian Sun Specter know something

[noble scarab]

That’s rough buddy

[earnest jungle]

The thing you have to remember is that in a lot of cultures the celestial bodies (Moon, Stars, Sun) are divinities in their own right

So depending on who you ask yes the sun indeed has magic

[noble scarab]

Yea, you have gods/goddesses like Diana, Apollo, Lugh, etc

So far tho Hunts cosmology hasn’t brought those into play

Which is why I find it odd.

They’ve been so against defining the occult and metaphysics of this world up until now

[sleek crest]

Mayhaps they realized they could take it no further without doing so

[vernal stag]

The description of the candles having a mass of hand reaching upwards reminds me of the art for the card when a hunter reaches level 50. Could just be a coincidence though. It also looks like the weapons we get as unlocks are literally the weapons that the hunters get after the ceremony. I guess with magic imbued in them.

[earnest jungle]

Could be an explanation of what happens when a hunter “retires”

It also occurs to me what could be happening is that Chary is sapping the moons power to fighting the corruption

[sudden glacier]

be careful, one of the artists at crytek can sense when you say 1896

[earnest jungle]

Like the proverbial farmer who kills the golden goose for her eggs perhaps Chary is killing the moon for her power to fight the darkness

[noble scarab]

I’m not sure he’s even directly working against the corruption tbh

I know one thing even was describing him as attempting to manipulate both moon and Sculptor

[earnest jungle]

I suspect Chary is a fine example of why the phrase "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" isn't always true.

[noble scarab]

It’s a miracle the AHA survived past both Huff and Chary

[icy brook]

I’m hoping for an arc with Chary and Lynch in direct and indirect conflict, I’m also hoping Lynch comes out the victor

[junior pecan]

You're a year or two late to this party rex

[empty owl]

lynch actually came in support of chary from what i heard

[upbeat kiln]

I just want more of Lynch

[hoary thorn]

I am interested in seeing Kevin’s part as a legendary hunter in the future. Taking down Mr Chary as the moons champion.

[clear birch]

Is jos and fin mcgowan both female? Or male and female?

I always thought that they were both dudes

Up until I got the snake seer skin from our mutual friend mr chary, it said that it was fin’s mcgowan’s

[icy brook]

They are both young ladies

Their name is Josefina split down the middle

[plush pelican]

about what year does hunt take place yall think?

[sudden glacier]

1896

[severe mulch]

Does anyone have source of the new event info? Chapters, pictures etc

[noble scarab]

It’s in this chat, up a little ways

[peak copper]

Who here knows the backstory of the Turncoat? I'm pretty new to the lore in Hunt but his story intrigues me the most because I can't tell if he came from Europe to the United States or if he came from the civilized land to tame the west.

[noble scarab]

Far as we know, mans went west with the army, got ambushed, was labeled a traitor, then kinda fell into a cycle of violence before joining up with the AHA

He’s also a reference to Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy

[peak copper]

Oh ok. I see. Well I'll look into that and see what the deal is. Also, do you know why the Rat, The Kid, and La Llorona are special in this event? Is it cause they've been betrayed before or the other way around?

I know the folklore of La Llorona, the mexican version anyway, but in the folklore she doesn't get betrayed as far as I know.

[noble scarab]

We don’t know, a few of us were throwing around ideas yesterday but none of them seemed right

Best guess is that a few of these guys are underused in cinematics/events so the devs just made them important

They did sign Chary’s contract tho

[peak copper]

I see

I'll snoop around and see if I find something. Like I mentioned I'm new to the story of this game and the more I play it the more questions I come up with. Lol.

[noble scarab]

There’s no answers, everything is vague and contradictory, get out while you still can

[peak copper]

I'll take your word for it.

[severe mulch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PiIvWOL7xCC2Rjms1GicXh5Ptap8lk0gVXKmEe_iO1A/edit?usp=sharing

Copied down the events chapters to a drive. Word by word, including the typos.

[noble scarab]

wonder if we could get a pin for that?

[slim panther]

Is there a document detailing the overarching lore so far?

[glacial schooner]

Where can I find hte most details about Scrapbeak?

[glacial schooner]

Thanks a bunch 🙂

[glacial schooner]

seconded, I don't know if there is one

[hoary thorn]

It is interesting that a orphaned kid like Kevin was able to put genuine fear into Mr Chary though.

The Moon’s blessing as his Champion, maybe the weapon, allowing him to counteract his regenerative abilities.

“Now now Kevin, even if that were true what can a boy like you do?” Mr. Chary laughed, but it was all a facade. The wound in his knee was healing slower than usual and something told him even the remedies Hunters used wouldn’t help him fix this.

[icy brook]

Very nice 🙏

[noble scarab]

i do like the canonization of Hunters being able to just regen their bodies via health shots

[sleek crest]

I wonder if Kevin will be a legendary Hunter eventually

[earnest jungle]

Either that or a central character in the upcoming show

[icy brook]

I just want the twins and lynch to have skins

[noble scarab]

right??

[icy brook]

Has anyone heard anything recently about the show?

[noble scarab]

last update was in december

it does have an IMDB page

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16120596/

[sudden glacier]

I forgot that the show was actually happening. thought they scrapped it

[noble scarab]

theres a decent chance it gets stuck in development hell, then if it is made it probably won't be good

[sudden glacier]

"action horror"

[icy brook]

Very nice, thank you

[unborn falcon]

What’s the whole lore about how the bosses get resurrected every match

Since we kill them more than once

[noble scarab]

The Sculptor just respawns them from time to time, the spider from bodies, the butcher from meatheads, the assassin is either just bugs or from corrupted Hunters, and Scrapbeak may hatch out of those eggs in his lair

[upbeat kiln]

Is this backed by the lore? 😮

[noble scarab]

It’s not written in text anywhere, but we know that it’s the “same” boss each time. I think the Spider pages are the closest we get to someone mentioning it

Everything is is roughly pieced out based on how the bosses came to be

[slim panther]

Spiders are not the same entity every time but they are the same creature, made from mass graves of people that have suffered greatly. Butchers are from meatheads, Scrapbeak we don't actually know much about, other than the original was a scrapper with a missing arm and leg that loved birds. Assassin is a corrupted hunter of some kind.

@unborn falcon

[unborn falcon]

oooo

[slim panther]

The Assassin's name, at least the first one, was a man named Victor if I remember correctly.

The first spider or at least the first named one we know about was a researcher(?) Or hunter named Reed.

The spider itself is comprised of multiple people with one ruling or "alpha entity"

That controls the body itself

Or at least that's what is speculated by researchers in the lore

[noble scarab]

Vincent

[slim panther]

There you go. I knew it was one or the other.

[knotty smelt]

So the turncoat was branded falsely. Is it possible the black coat was as well? Why hunt down his own kids to kill them? Whats the purpose? Maybe the uncle was the real killer and stole the kids knowing they had power. While the black coat hunted down the uncle and killed him.

In turn his own kids killed him not knowing the situation

[empty owl]

considering that the black coat is a well known killer and has shown no remorse from what little there is of his character, i'd say he's not falsely branded

he has his own angle on things, even worked with the governor of louisiana at one point from what i remembered

[noble scarab]

mans mightve also not known those were his kids, he probably just hated his bro

[sturdy idol]

So, what’s the story of the ongoing event exactly?

[noble scarab]

tldr Chary worms his way into the AHA, then is evil and is hurting the moon, thus Kevin attempts to kick his ass, resulting in Chary running away

[sturdy idol]

Is Chary the turncoat guy?

[fossil flame]

No

[noble scarab]

Chary is the dude that makes the contracts and makes you cut your palm for 3 flash bombs or 142 hunt dollars

[marble basin]

I thought he gave me a skin once

But it was just 1 time use

[noble scarab]

Wrong channel

[white pasture]

Chary is not a man!

[white pasture]

No, all of the bosses in the game are entities that the Sculptor "clones". Though its implied their origin is independent of the sculptor.

Same for all of the AI we encounter.

Grunts are biproduct of Sculptor the "disease"

[thorn epoch]

A scrapper? Didn’t the trailer for him show a maimed civil war soldier or somethin?

[slim panther]

Scrapbeak isn't a kid, so. This is possible, regardless.

[noble scarab]

Scrapbeak was a scrapper post-war. He'd take a cart of birds and scrap around the bayous

[thorn epoch]

https://youtu.be/u3B4qZZnzr8

[noble scarab]

yea fam, he was a soldier, got his legs and arm blown off, then went on to be a scrapper before being transformed into Scrapbeak

its in his lore pages

[thorn epoch]

Gotcha, makes sense

[noble scarab]

his son was on trial for his murder, which is probably the first time he was walking around as a monster

Mastery 4:

AW: Well, I guess we have to start back at the war. Papa lost the first leg in the war. The arm in what come after. And the other leg, well, that's another story. Maybe we'll get to that later.

He worked as a rag man, and it suited him. He'd drive around in that old cart collecting broken old pots and pans and scraps and rags and things. Seemed the more broken something was, the more he liked it. Meant there was something he could fix. Something he could take apart and put back together again. He loved tinkering around with that old junk.

He come back from the war, met mama, rest her soul, and they had me. Never married, those two. Didn't much like each other. No real animosity between them either, but you know how people are about couples having kids and not getting married. I've had to make my peace with that.

[amber ivy]

Man I really wish there was a single player hunt game

There is a lot of potential in one imo

Never gonna happen though

[worthy rivet]

single player campaign on the lore would be insane

[gloomy dust]

what happened to monroe in asylum? what's relationship between monroe and huff?

[noble scarab]

Monroe was used for some of Huffs experiments, he eventually broke out and joined the hunt, Huff was later killed by either presumably Victor Caldwell, or by Lynch

[rotund ferry]

Is there a "good" point to get into the lore ?

Cause i feel like everything is so spread out that it doesn't matter which part of the lore I would start reading first

[gloomy dust]

Lynch and another guy, cannot remember his name, killed many hunters afaik, what's the cast?

case*

[noble scarab]

Look up @upbeat kiln lore videos on YouTube, they’re a great starting point, from there just read through the boss entries and that should give you a decent idea of what’s going on

[noble scarab]

Lynch supposedly is an otherworldy entity that has beef with the Sculptor, so she is working against it in her own way. Once Huff was killed, it turned to outright chaos in the bayou and factions splintered and everyone just started shooting each other

[rotund ferry]

Thank you very much sir

[kindred shore]

stupid question but this whole place in the Hunt is all centered around North America correct?

[upbeat kiln]

❤️

[noble scarab]

What we see in game is centered around North America, Louisiana specifically, but other incidents have occurred in the Cascades, New York, in Asia, and presumably in other areas as well

[proven wraith]

oh i hope we get an asia map or sth like that hehe

[sudden glacier]

I believe the devs said they're going to keep it in the bayou

the whole vibe of hunt doesn't really work in East Asia

[quick dune]

Hey it's the guy!
I also really appreciate your lore videos.

[upbeat kiln]

thank you so much! That makes me happy ❤️

[grizzled pilot]

Same they are really awesome and well made <3

[cold idol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnA4PRc9Dq4

Welp, I guess this is canon now

[steep hollow]

Easy explanation, the nun is just having intense auditory and visual hallucinations for whatever reason

[hallow mist]

too much sacramental wine

[steep hollow]

Exactly

She’s hallucinating her ancestors and descendants while on the hunt

[earnest jungle]

I pretty sure this is an early April Fools Prank

[rotund ferry]

I always knew it all takes place in the same universe

[rotund ferry]

guys

who is lynch? im seeking infos

where she came.from and why she's soo malicious?

[noble scarab]

HazmatFTW has an excellent 2 part series on her that you should check out, but the tldr is that she's from the same or similar place to the Sculptor, and she has a grudge against it. She probably wants to do what its doing, and so she's working against it, but still attempting to maintain her own interests

[zealous blade]

is this an april fools joke? donm't see these people anywhere other than the nun

[noble scarab]

its just an early joke,

not sure where the centurion is from tho, cause the futuristic guy is from Crysis

[fierce turtle]

Ryse: Son of Rome

[rotund ferry]

Centurion is Marius Titus from Ryse: Son of Rome. The dino is Laika from Robinson: The Journey and the hands are used in Climb.

[lethal tusk]

Both are games made by crytek. It is an April joke. However I would totally main the centurian

Can you imagine dinos in the tall grass like jurassic park....he'll hounds are bad enough

[empty owl]

can’t wait for them to add cain 2.0 by adding alcatraz

[thick ermine]

Pretty sure this is just April Fools.

[steep bloom]

Was the lore team actually fired or was that a meme?

[visual finch]

Dunno from where you get this speculation, but... no one got fired

[jovial basin]

might be because of the crytek legends thing

[steep bloom]

Nah it's in one of the pinned Q&As which is why I was curious

[tribal frigate]

Have noticed a big difference in how the lore events are written recently. Hopefully it's just a case of rushed content than firings.

[sharp anvil]

In terms of being more cash grabs or less lore focused?

[pallid seal]

so can anyone explain who Mr. Chary is?

[tribal frigate]

It's more of the way the most recent lore bits have been written. Feels like a more straight forward "here you go" style of writing. Might just be me, but the previous lore writings have always had an engaging and slightly cryptic dialect. The new entries feel like I'm reading a community fanfic.

[noble scarab]

he was the new head of the Louisiana branch of the AHA, but he was fuckin around with the moon, the moon got upset, and set Kevin on him, so he left and now the AHA is presumably leaderless again

[pallid seal]

ah

makes sense

[sharp anvil]

Ah yeah I can see what you mean

Cryptic is pretty nice just for the speculations people can come up with

[noble scarab]

the new event lore reads more like a chapter in BATS than it does like a journal or other entry

[charred spade]

The event lore got me bugging, spooky af

[tribal frigate]

Anything involving the Moon and the Occult is a favorite for me. Love it.

[rotund ferry]

i came here after his videos smh

[solemn eagle]

Event lore spoilers: || IS MR FUCKIN CHARY THE SCULPTOR||

[kindred goblet]

Hold up

[noble scarab]

He’s not the Sculptor, he’s just some dude that’s really strong with the occult and can somehow manipulate both the Moon and the Sculptor

[solemn eagle]

Ah that’s much less but still worrying

[noble scarab]

He’s probably trying to become the Sculptor tho

Or something akin to it

Kinda like a reverse Lynch situation

[empty owl]

or at least somekind of a sculptor like figure that has humanity’s best interest in mind

[bold tangle]

Today I learned the dolch in hunt was at least made in the 60’s

[bold tangle]

Turncoats dolch’s, the coin says the 7th Calvary apart of the civil war

Unless I read it wrong

[noble scarab]

I'd imagine he had those coins laying around and he just strapped them to his Dolchs

because it wasnt made up until at least '95

[icy brook]

^^

[earnest jungle]

Seventh Cavalry is still around

[jolly karma]

What is the inoculations hunters receive to get darksight called?

[noble scarab]

Don’t think it’s official name has even been stated

[sudden glacier]

calling it something like the Initiation or Rites of Initiation is a safe bet

[noble scarab]

serum, or inoculum would also work

[jolly karma]

Do we have any idea what's in it?

I have this pet theory that it's made from bounty tokens

Wait no

Just read the pax lore pages

[jolly karma]

What are bounty tokens

[icy brook]

They are small pieces of the boss that holds some of their essence, it’s what gets turned in to the AHA

[jolly karma]

What do they use it for

[icy brook]

I may be mistaken but at some point it was implied Huff was using them to induce immortality, I can’t recall what entry it came from

[jolly karma]

Does anyone have the traitors moon lore screenshotted

[icy brook]

Here you go!

@jolly karma

[jolly karma]

Ty

[rotund ferry]

hey guys here an important question, sorry for the sudden emergency

Is all Hunt showdown lore and Lynch canon?

[noble scarab]

Everything is canon, but some things aren't terrible reliable, such as the stuff about Lynch

her story was written by a dime novelist that may have made some stuff up

[rotund ferry]

ooh thank for answer

[broken copper]

I believe this is where the revenant died, got shot while playing a game of poker

[slim panther]

This is correct. This is where the mountain man shot him.

[upbeat kiln]

Would anyone happen to have some pics or screenshots of the people being cocooned within the hunting grounds? 🙂 ❤️

[broken copper]

The mountain man?

[noble scarab]

Wasn’t the mountain man, it was someone unnamed

[broken copper]

ahhh ok, thanks

[noble scarab]

It’s in the Dark sight trailer if you want to see a visual

[upbeat kiln]

I was about to say.. finding the Mountain man at a gambling table seems.. unlikely 🤣

[noble scarab]

Here’s the scene from the trailer, looks to be either a white shirt or someone wearing a coat, kinda similar to the night seers, but minus the blood markings

[icy brook]

The real question is, did he have the dead man's hand?

[random lava]

pretty sure for a little while he had 2 dead man hands

[icy brook]

[severe mulch]

Can anyone share the 4 guns (or any unlockables) the Traitor's moon offered?

Trying to compile all the info we have on the lore regarding the traitors moon. I already shared the entries, would appreciate anything else you guys know of, such as hunter skins or weapons/weapon skins

[noble scarab]

The entries/masteries aren’t out yet, so all we have is the lore pages from the event, then the descriptions from the legendaries

[severe mulch]

Descriptions from legendaries will also do. Pretty much all we have except the 12 chapters

[noble scarab]

I’ll grab some screenshots for you once I’m on later tonight

[severe mulch]

Will much appreciate it. Don't hesitate to tag me in so I can see them

[severe mulch]

You mentioned entries/masteries not being out. Are we waiting for more to be released except the 4 new guns and 14 chapters of the event?

[severe mulch]

Also anyone figured out what role The Rat, The Kid, The Turncoat and Llorona's Heir have with Traitor's Moon? Nothing within their descriptions hints to a connection. Llorona's Heir with her "rumors" of her being a shade and The Rat's "dual pistols" probably being summoned the same way the rest acquired their weapons by sacrificing that which they hold most dear. But even that is such a huge stretch and a desperate attempt to make a connection.

[noble scarab]

Each new gun and ammo type will have a lore entry/mastery page once the event is done, which may or may not tie back into the event.

[noble scarab]

There isn’t a connection, we’ve pondered it over and over here, they’re just being used because a few of them haven’t been in a cinematic yet. The only relevant bit is that they signed a contract with Chary.

[gleaming zenith]

Does anyone know what supernatural abilities hunters have besides: Enhanced strength, stamina, and durability, Dark sight, Banishing, and Casting sparks from their fingertips?

Or is that everything

[icy brook]

Some of the perks are very supernatural, like necromancer and serpent are pretty otherworldly

[wary tulip]

How did the hunters have grey hound, do they run fast because they work out in a gym or do they have super powers

[white pasture]

They are supernatural in nature

[drowsy canopy]

though some perks can just be natural conditioning like Greyhound or learned techniques like fanning or even just privileges like Quartermaster, many are without a doubt supernatural gifts like Ghoul, Conduit and even the "Seer" traits. This means there is a possibility even mundane perks like Gator legs and Greyhound are also minor supernatural enhancements of a Hunter's ability

[icy brook]

^

[noble scarab]

Hunters already possess extreme stamina, so I’m sure greyhound just compounds that

[gleaming zenith]

Ok, there isn't anything in lore that you can't do in game as far as everyone is aware?

[noble scarab]

That’s right, I think there’s a few things that are a bit different, in lore the bosses are harder and the Hunting grounds are larger

[icy brook]

I guess any of the magic done by the twins and Lynch in Bad As they Seem

[gleaming zenith]

Yeah, I know Bone Doctor does voodoo magic or something. And it's rumored that Felis can shapeshift