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noble scarab
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Lynch, who is some kind of otherworldly entity herself, taught them

thorny meadow
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Btw, I have noticed that in the lore there have been no attempts by the U.S. government to stop the infection or at least attempt too. Am I missing something or do they simply not notice or decide to do nothing about it?

noble scarab
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They aren't really aware of it (or how bad it really is), or believe that the AHA has it under control. Huff was also influencing the government of Louisiana to look the other way.

thorny meadow
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ah

thorny meadow
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I also heard there was an incident that took place that was considered the worst. It was called "The Sundering" does anybody know about this cause I just heard about it.

earnest jungle
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I suspect that it is rather like the references to Simon Magus and the 8th Ring of Hell that it is very much: “Aborted Lore.”

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“Aborted Lore” is stuff like the True Deck and the Book of Songs. Lore and Gameplay mechanics that they planned to introduce but have since gone the way of the Hammerjack Multitool and the Dodo bird.

earnest jungle
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Near as I can tell the Sundering was mentioned in a single QnA from sometime before 0.6.0

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All the way back in 2018

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Now as a an amateur world builder and dungeon master: “The Sundering” reeks to high heaven of “I don’t have an answer prepared for this question so I’m making something up off of the top of my head.”

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And you know what that’s fine

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Improvising lore is a perfectly fine way to create a story I do it all the damn time because the audience isn’t going to know

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The problem that as far as I can tell there was no follow up.

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The lore focuses pretty exclusively on what’s going on in Louisiana.

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Stuff outside Louisiana gets mentioned here and again but is rarely the focus

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The. Again the 1885 Incident did eventually get a follow up in the Terminus and Centennial Lore so who knows.

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We might just see the Sundering Yet

thorny meadow
earnest jungle
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Hang on sorry I’m thinking of the Monogahela incidents in 1876 and 1887. My bad we ain’t ever seeing the fucking Sundering.

thorny meadow
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?

earnest jungle
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In 1876 and 1887 Felis went on psychotic rampages in the forests of West Virginia that ultimately killed four people that we know of.

thorny meadow
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Oh

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So what was the 1885 incident?

noble scarab
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Unsure, but we also have an undated incidents in the Cascades, and ongoing events in China, and a much more recent event in NY

remote quarry
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So uhm for the lyrics

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for It's dark in new orleans

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packed the bag. slipped away
they say it's dark in new orleans. they say there's work for women like me

I killed a man, and a few more
I shot them down and left them cold on that old dirt floor
I killed another, to get this seat on the train to new orleans

three days counting, specter shine
There's gonna be trouble, just my kind. I'll take this letter to new orleans
they say there's work for a woman like me..

I'm heading west, take the trat train
bound in blood, bound in name. 
The bounty is high, in new orleans
I heard there's work for a man like me
They say good men, must intervene.
I have to wonder is this a nightmare or is it a dream.
________ for a man like me. 
There aint no other like new orleans

Three days counting, specter shine.
There's gonna be trouble, just my kind. I'll take this gun to new orleans
They say there's work for a man like me.

Three days counting, three days more, ________ once first blood upon the floor
Two above, three below, I'm counting graves that I will fill.

Two above, three below, we're counting graves that we will fill.
we're counting graves that we will fill, that we will fill, with men like me.
with men like me.
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I've been missing those two spaces

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any help?

twilit quiver
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In the "I shot them down and left them cold on that old dirt floor" line I think you forgot some words

novel saffron
remote quarry
twilit quiver
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i can hear something like "I shot them down and left their bodies cooling on that old dirt floor"

remote quarry
remote quarry
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there are some official lyrics from the trailer on reddit, so it's confirmed from there

novel saffron
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I wish they would just release the complete lyrics of all the songs

twilit quiver
# remote quarry it's cold*

I'm sure I heard "cooling" (I'm listening to the trailer because I wasnt sure about what I was saying) 🤔

remote quarry
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it's cooling 😮

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Nice spotting 😄

earnest jungle
remote quarry
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yeah it might.. sounds like it

earnest jungle
remote quarry
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u sure about that two hands more?

earnest jungle
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Definitely

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It’s also definitely hands’ll and blood

upper turtle
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Who is Lynch? Mentioned in the descriptions of the black wight and reapers arm legendary skins

remote quarry
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packed the bag. slipped away
they say it's dark in new orleans. 
they say there's work for women like me

I killed a man, and a few more
I shot them down and left them bodies cooling on that old dirt floor
I killed another, to get this seat on the train to new orleans

three days counting, specter shine
there's gonna be trouble, just my kind. I'll take this letter to new orleans
they say there's work for a woman like me..

I'm heading west, take that train
bound in blood, bound in name. 
The bounty is high, in new orleans
I heard there's work for a man like me.
They say good men, must intervene.
I have to wonder is this a nightmare or is it a dream.
________ for a man like me. 
There aint no other like new orleans

Three days counting, specter shine.
There's gonna be trouble, just my kind. I'll take this gun to new orleans
They say there's work for a man like me.

Three days counting, two hands more, hands'll be steady once first blood upon the floor
Two above, three below, I'm counting graves that I will fill.

Two above, three below, we're counting graves that we will fill.
we're counting graves that we will fill, that we will fill, with men like me.
with men like me.```
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one space missing 😄

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It might be "Who might dream" but still not sure

honest minnow
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Is that the new song?

remote quarry
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It's dark in new orleans

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from the dark sight trailer

honest minnow
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Haven’t heard that one.

remote quarry
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I've also 99% translated rabbit in the mine

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you been down there too long, too long, rabbit in the mine
they'll take me to the callows all my years for what I've done
i've been down here too long too long rabbit, time's up

and i called on the devil, and i called on the divine
i'm gonna bring my sins to jesus, tell me was the rabbit in the mine

when they will walk you to the callows you gotta hold your head up high,
they grab is meant to trap you like a rabbit in the mine.
oh sing it with me now,
called on the devil, and i called on the divine.
i'm gonna bring my sins to jesus tell me was the rabbit in the mine.

he says he found the answer, way down in kingsnake mine
you stay down there too long you'll be the rabbit in the mine
and i called on the devil, and i called on the divine
i'm gonna bring my sins to jesus tell me was the rabbit in the mine.

was the rabbit in the mine?```
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not sure about the starting one

novel saffron
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I think "it's fear that drives you mad"

earnest jungle
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It’s fear that drives you mad/mind

valid dove
remote quarry
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also that part they grab is meant to trap is probably not it...

remote quarry
novel saffron
remote quarry
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yeah i just typed whatever I heard first, and english is a non-native language so 😛

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Their is probably better suited, but still not sure

novel saffron
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Same, on top of that is also sung in a bit of an accent so no worries at all 😅

remote quarry
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meant is made

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it can totally hear made

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their grab is made to trap...

earnest jungle
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Okay so listening to the song:
• It’s fear that traps your mind
• Tell me, he was a rabbit in the mine
•they’ll grab his neck to trap you

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The lyrics are a bit difficult but context clues can help make sense especially with that last lyric which is alluding to grabbing a rabbit by the scruff of its neck, and the noose strangling the neck of its victim

noble scarab
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There’s snares that are meant to strangle rabbits or other animals to death, could be something along those lines

empty owl
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so there's something down deep in kingsnake that the workers treated like an animal to keep it pacified?

analog raptor
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Maybe it was a kingsnake

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New boss???

icy brook
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“They delved too deep and too greedily, and awakened an ancient evil”

analog raptor
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It says they'll take him to the gallows for what he's done, so maybe he killed some fellow miners in an accident?

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Is it a story of insanity?

tardy sentinel
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or its a massive snake, that is the king of snakes

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def new boss

empty owl
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snek

west sinew
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Has it been discussed if maybe that's how the Louisiana event started?

earnest jungle
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I think the song is both metaphorical and literal.

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Metaphorically the song is about the darkness of the Hunt and the danger it poses to the soul. The singer is a hunter whose wicked ways have caught up them and they're about to be executed for all they've done.

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Literally the song is about something down in the darkness of Kingsnake Mine that is connected to what's happening in Louisiana.

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Some, myself included, have speculated that DeSalle was the site where the Corruption first began. If this is the case then perhaps the thing the miners found down in the mine is whatever unleashed the Corruption on DeSalle. However the new lore seems to go against this. Though Fenella Cleve does not say when the corruption reached DeSalle her description states that it began slowly enough that people ignored it. That it reached De Salle precludes DeSalle from being the epicenter.

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Though that hits at another possibility. Kingsnake mine could be the localized epicenter for DeSalle.

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Perhaps the conclusion to Healing Waters Church blog post is closer to the truth than we thought: "A few put it down to just being something in the water."

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What if water is how the darkness spreads.

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Mines are notorious polluters of water sheds, could be that miners struck a spring of the sculptor's dark energy buried deep into the bed rock and allowed it to spread forth into the area. Could explain how an area so far north was infected.

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Though it needn't be a literal well and a literal spring.

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Anyway here's the Karabiner Marksman Lore

Karabiner_Marksman_1.png Karabiner_Marksman_2.png
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Also the Phantom is Canonically Dead

empty owl
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so it should be someone else possibly connected to him

earnest jungle
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Can't be

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The only other Mr LeRoux is dead and buried at the hands of his son, who never made any mention of brothers or uncles

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It would also explain why only his arm ever turned up

empty owl
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i guess we got a new Mr LeRoux

earnest jungle
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I rather doubt they would introduce a never before mentioned male member of his family just to kill him off

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Also was Nellie Crown’s race ever specified?

empty owl
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i think i remember her being a former slave or the sort from the hive entries

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could be wrong

earnest jungle
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That would Ada Ruth Shell

empty owl
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oh right

remote quarry
remote quarry
crude gazelle
remote quarry
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I didn't even know "gallows" existed as a word

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seems more like it, contextually

crude gazelle
remote quarry
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yep that's it

novel saffron
novel saffron
lethal tusk
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So I've been unlocking weapon lore, from the top done. I just finished the vetterli and moving on to the next one. The question now is, is posting those pages here taboo or no?

noble scarab
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No, it’s usually welcome, however we do have a list of the already unlocked ones somewhere in the pinned posts. Only newer entires would be really needed, maybe the custom ammo as well.

lethal tusk
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Awesome will do. Thanks for the info.

earnest jungle
remote quarry
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I think rabbit in the mine, is officially complete 😄

earnest jungle
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Web doesn’t make sense in this context

earnest jungle
remote quarry
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I can neither hear an n nor a ck

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Can someone else try to see if they'll grab his neck works?

earnest jungle
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There aren’t any other spider allusions or motifs in the song so it makes no sense for the lyric to be “the web is made to trap you.” There are however numerous references to hanging in the song, the lyric prior is about the narrator being led to the gallows. Which also works as an illusion to snaring a rabbit.

remote quarry
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contextually you are right

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but I can't hear it at all. Maybe some others can

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let's see what others thing first 😄

earnest jungle
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They’re definitely not saying web though I they are definitely saying grab

remote quarry
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I can also hear grab, I can't hear neck

novel saffron
earnest jungle
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How does Francis LeRoux connect to Gus LeRoux

wintry root
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what's the current consensus on Lynch? Good, bad, neutral, literally the Sculptor?

earnest jungle
wintry root
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Okay so just a sadistic/greedy prick?

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Possibly with a grudge?

earnest jungle
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A sadistic, greedy demi-god with a grudge.

wintry root
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thanks for reminding me

primal goblet
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Do we know how long the lou-event went on?

earnest jungle
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Started in 94 and got worse in 95 and continued into 96

wintry root
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was gestating even before that. David Hennesy was assasinated in 1890, and Harold Black (the Researcher) was attacked shortly thereafter by what would become the Assasin

noble scarab
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Potentially started almost a century earlier than that. There were reports of “cannibals and infection” in Blanchett

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We also know from an entry that it’s “over” but it’s one of those don’t go into the swamps if you’re smart kinda thing

wintry root
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so I think Louisiana is safe lol 🤣

empty owl
noble scarab
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be interested to know the relation, if there is one

empty owl
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distant cousin could be?

mint glade
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About that lyrics discussion: seems someone uploaded transcription to Musixmatch (service from which apparently Spotify gets lyrics). Have you compared your results with that, or deliberately avoided comparing?

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I'm listening to "It's dark in New Orleans" and... Is it just me or as woman sings "I shot them down" there are percussions? cymbals? slightly out of rhythm? Same instrument is featured throughout entire song, but at that moment I swear there's few "bangs" (what's the proper term?) that are out of rhythm and louder (I swear), and those instantly reminded me of semi-distant compact ammo gunshots in Hunt.

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Am I imagining this? Is it an over-interpretation? Or they really did that?

Because it honestly chilled me when I noticed it just a moment ago.

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OK, I swear something is on about that. In part where man sings, those "sharp" cymbals are not present. Percussion is "softer" and "sharp" "bangs" in rhythm are replaced with "softer" ones. For now I didn't match parts of stanzas just yet to see if those I think are out of rhythm are present too, just in "soft" version.

noble scarab
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Should be “they say good men” instead of that

mint glade
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What you say does fit the context better.

valid dove
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Its because a lot of those lyrics are just fan submitted

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spotify just accepts it

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same with a lot of other music stuff

noble scarab
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they are indeed fan submitted, i just went and made an account and corrected that lyric. Will spotify use that update? Who knows? Will someone else change it again? Probably

lyric loom
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Spotify lyrics have a tendency to be pretty inaccurate on certain songs

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I know they're extremely inaccurate/inconsistent especially in the heavier Slipknot songs and also unpopular songs that not a lot of people care to correct

quasi crow
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today just found out that water devils don't eat ducks cause they taste bad for them, huh.

empty owl
quasi crow
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@empty owl No, some guy told me that he heard one of the devs say it during one of their streams, don't know which one, so don't know about legitimacy, it could also be a joke from the devs, but it's my head-canon now

oblique egret
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medicine cabinet lore

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glacial schooner
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any findings in there? haha

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the res is a little low

oblique egret
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its in the white house at slaughter house

opaque glade
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Knuckle lore

junior pecan
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more of those needles or lightbulbs or whatever the hell they are. A new prop prevalent in desalle

glacial schooner
junior pecan
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Left column, second from the bottom

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Theres one in the lower desalle general trader first floor, west wall

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And some more elsewhere in the map

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They look somewhat more clean than other items in the room, so it comes across as something brought in by hunters

noble scarab
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Doesnt the plague doc also have a few with him, in this backpack?

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that same model

drowsy canopy
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the plague Doc would definitely have use for it, I imagine hunters could use it to to draw venom or infected bile from wounds

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it was probably a rather dated piece of equipment by 1895

tiny cargo
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What replaced it in 1895

drowsy canopy
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it was more like medicine was entering the modern era so old practices like blood draining were less common

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it was invented in 1840, so it was probably still around in 1895 but was likely becoming less common as medicine moved on

tiny cargo
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Did it take the blood or just drain it

drowsy canopy
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its a vacuum seal device you place it over a target area twist it to cut a circular wound then pull on the plunger to create a vacuum seal and drain the blood

tiny cargo
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But it doesn't store any like a syringe

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?

drowsy canopy
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I am not sure that is what's modelled there on the shelf could be a type of syringe, as far as I can tell though this was not meant to extract blood like a syringe just drain it

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it may have bee able to do it though

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still if you wanted to store blood, then you'd just use an old syringe like the ones we see with the 'shots' in game...

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Speaking of the shots, the syringes they used are very on point for what was used at the time

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tiny cargo
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That artificial leech looks so much cooler though

opaque glade
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That artifical leech looks like the gattling gun in a way which is a life leech

blissful tundra
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Baby more than four needles I don't know?

sudden violet
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restive storm
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anyone have an idea of why krampus fingers are not glowing in darksight

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does coal blacken it?

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like the skinflint also has fingerless gloves and his fingers glow

noble scarab
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got a picture?

low trout
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Hi, I'm not deep into lore, but does krampus have any lore? Idk what or who he is

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Or, where does he come from, what does he represent

nocturne flare
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I don't think he's associated with anyone, his bio kind of reads like he's an okay guy that also happens to secretly a serial killer

low trout
low trout
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Ok

wet sparrow
fallow gorge
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Basically, he's a good man who helps put the people around town. He's always suppressing some dark urges and he don's this persona of sorts whenever his darkness is too much. The people know about it but choose to ignore it because of the good he does

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They send 'em out the bayou for the good of the town

deft mango
rotund ferry
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What new lore does that new album that port solfur bad but out have in it?

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I've been listening to death is a bird flying and I'm. Not sure if rid talking about the black birds that can be death flying if you alert them or if it's some other ufmissom

untold blaze
wintry root
rotund ferry
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Bird

wintry root
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he's a birb

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also significant quantities of symbolism

dry grove
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There is a legendary Officer Brawler with the lyrics scribbled on it

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description says it's a Civil War ballad made by someone who would later become a hunter

drowsy canopy
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Scrapbeak was a veteran of the Civil War

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and he developed a crow motif during it, when his legs were blown off attacking Fort Carmick

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he saw crows the moment before a cannon ball took his legs and crows when he next woke up somehow alive, then again when he woke up with his prosthetic legs

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Scrapbeak may have been the IC author of that very ballad

noble scarab
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he wasnt a Hunter, but he probably told his story to someone who was

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his son probably was a Hunter

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or at least knew what was occurring in the bayous

drowsy canopy
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what happened to Scrapbeak between his 'death' and transformation is uncertain

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its possible he was touched from the very moment he died

noble scarab
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per his own lore he "cracked" during the war

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he just transformed once his son killed his birds

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even then the Sculptor may have had someone/something graft his beak on, post transformation

drowsy canopy
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still his survival is miraculous considering the damage to his body and how long he was unconcious... whether the Sculptor was playing the long game even as far back as the Civil War is unknown

noble scarab
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i don't recall the exact year, but Blanchett's lore talks about 12 "cannibals" and a mysterious illness surrounding the church, and that was around 1780

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so its been building for awhile

drowsy canopy
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no doubt, Light the Shadow was all about how the Native Americans were trying to fight the Sculptor their way. It seems that this plan was a long time coming

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As far as we know it was stopped whatever the plan was, since the infection never spread, though the AHA was destroyed due to infighting

noble scarab
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the AHA wasn't fully destroyed, it got rebuilt over time from the assorted loyalist factions, such as Finch, the Twins, and Marshall Brewer

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We can kinda interpret that from a mix of the BATS stuff as well as the many after the fact interviews/researcher notes

drowsy canopy
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scattered to the winds at the very least and probably had to rebuild from scratch

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no word on how the Sculptor was actually stopped... It makes be believe that HUNT was something that exceeded Crytek's expectations

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and if they knew it would organically grow to this size they would have not created such a restrictive setting (Just Louisianna, USA) that precludes things like snow maps

noble scarab
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could see it being a war of attrition kind of thing

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the Sculptor might only have enough energy to manifest so much before Hunters eventually exhaust it

drowsy canopy
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problem is the Sculptor at least appears incredibly intelligent (the monsters themselves so it knows about psychological warfare), I don't see any reason it would waste effort on fighting a losing battle

noble scarab
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the only things that seem terribly smart are the Assassin and Scrapbeak. Everything else basically just throws itself towards the nearest source of irritation. The Sculptor itself is also said to be creatively sterile, so it can't come up with new forms, it just causes corruption and takes the best/most successful as a template

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While it might be highly intelligent, it might be so in a way that doesn't translate well to this world in like a Cthulhu or Lovecraftian way

drowsy canopy
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possibly, though what is seen in game is not what the lore describes, Hardin lost part of his posse to animated hands they had taken from grunts as trophies

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The Butcher is a flat upgrade of a Meathead, Spider serves some other purpose that seems to be important to the Sculptor

noble scarab
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I was including lore into my statements, none of that is terribly intelligent. Hardin's people died because they weren't aware the hands would reanimate and they had collected 100s.

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The Butcher is a less blind meathead with a bit of fire that serves to collect meat for the grunts. The Spider creates webs/cocoons to help with the spread of the plague and allow for the gestation of new copies

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The Assassin on the other hand is smart enough to infiltrate society and act normal, while still being an incredibly deadly assassin, going almost unrecognized until Black happened to go to the bayou

drowsy canopy
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The Assassin was infiltrating he was even able to talk and had a name while being a fully corrupted monster with his Assassin powers we see in game, which begs the question of what his mission was.

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we know intelligence doesn't survive the corruption process, even Scrapbeak is more instinct at this point, so the Assassin is evidence that the Sculptor can build intelligent monsters

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The Assassin even seemed to have a target in Hiram Lott

noble scarab
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The Assassin might have also retained its intelligence from Vincent, the Hunter who was corrupted into the monster, or it might have had some type of split personality going on

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and yea his job is to just kill certain targets, but it seemed to stop targeting specific people once Black spread the word around about it

drowsy canopy
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Black called him out or perhaps his specific corruption finally progressed to the point we see him in game

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He was fully the assassin by the time Black met him and even then was smart enough to befriend Black in order to gather information on his target Lieutenant Governor Lott

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and tracked the guy all the way to Nicaragua to off him

noble scarab
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That was in 1890 as well, right?

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which would make the Assassin the "oldest" boss

drowsy canopy
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yeah the Assassin met him in 1890

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crawling up walls and tossing blades even then

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no its clear from the Assassin that the Sculptor was planning ahead, I doubt it was empowering random folk to attack random people

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it doesn't need all its creations to be intelligent, perhaps because they aren't meant to be the killers

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the AHA's greatest enemy was themselves, Grunts may not be meant to kill so much as they are meant to be sound traps to push hunters into fighting eachother

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The Sculptor no doubt had some role in the downfall of the AHA, perhaps the infection and its creatures were but a means to accelerate it...

noble scarab
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Lynch didn't help things

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and Huff

drowsy canopy
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perhaps that was part of the reason Louisiana was chosen, Huff would have become in charge of any incident in Louisiana by virtue of proximity more than merit

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Huff was the perfect useful idiot for the Sculptor bringing Hunters from all over the world to Louisiana to die in a civil war

icy brook
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I can’t think of any, but does anyone else know of any lore or prior mentions of a Mr. Orwell

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As in the last Instagram post

native glade
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winter solstice event page said "Introducing Mr. Orwell Chary and the Chary Contracts" so i guess it's new lore

opaque glade
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Does any of the text in the entirety of hunt talk about who drives the boats in the entrances and exits of the bayou

noble scarab
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its never specifically mentioned. the hunters may do it themselves, or they may be AHA sponsored

empty owl
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from what i think the boats and coaches were driven by people contracted by the AHA but i might be wrong

wintry root
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In-lore, each team probably has their own extract with members of their faction or contractors driving the vehicles. What we know for certain is that in-game, its done in this free-for-all way this to facilitate thrilling extraction royale gameplay.

noble scarab
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A lot of hunters seem to make their way into and out of the hunting grounds either via horse or on foot as well.

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That’s where we get all those dying horses, left over from hunters coming in and leaving them all over the shop, that and the supply wagons

wintry root
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yeah the extracts are mostly just a game mechanic

rose cape
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Will there be ghouls in Q1 2022?

wintry root
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wat

rose cape
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i guess its not confirmed yet

untold blaze
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What’s the deal with the side of Sofia’s face that’s covered? Is it burn scars or somethin?

noble scarab
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Burn scar, her house + family + her got burned up during a random attack

rose cape
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ok so PC GAMER have confirmed a ghoul skin for Q3 2022 (MOST LIKELY HALLOWEEN EVENT I HOPE)

earnest jungle
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So we are definitely getting a snow map

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because the Devs know Louisiana was hit by a rare snow fall in the Winter of 1895

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Soecifically February of 1895

orchid shoal
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I wish to god for a snowmap

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One of my number 1 wants

verbal pollen
wintry root
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This would take a lot of work bur we can hope

frank bobcat
mint glade
verbal pollen
mint glade
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Why wouldn't it?

wintry root
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hey folks, I've written a 350-some-word literary introduction to Hunt. I'd appreciate any feedback as to whether it is correct to the lore.

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"It is the year of our Lord, 1896, and something strange is happening in the bayous of Louisiana.

People say it’s an epidemic, a deadly disease that takes hold rapidly. The governor said so himself. That it’s the natural state of the poor, and that nobody should be concerned. But everyone should be.

Listen to the rumors, the whispers in the alley. There are devils in the Bayou, come to twist our bodies and feast on our souls. Corrupted monsters prowl the swamps and the abandoned villages, their hordes endless. Worse yet, beasts of great power hide in their compounds, their presence anchoring and strengthening the infection’s hold.

But they can be fought. Come with me, and take the Inoculum. It will render you immune to their corruption. You will search for their wellsprings and close them. You will find clues and hunt them in their own homes. You will banish them back to Hell, where they came from. You will take their power, their bounties, and you’ll carry them back to prove the kill. And you will be rich.

But you will no longer be the same. The Hunt will change you. You will not turn into a beast (we hope), but your mind will be rended asunder again and again as you do your work. You will face off against not only the beast, but also man. Gone mad with bloodlust and greed, they will hunt you for your bounty, your beliefs or just for the thrill of the kill. Perhaps you’ll become one of them, too?

You aren’t alone in this fight. There are many others, immune and talented like you, but they don’t all agree. The organization, the American Hunters Association, whose members have fought such evil for many a century, had crumbled and collapsed. Splinter groups, cults and independent actors are everywhere. Who you’ll fight with, and what you’ll fight for, that’s your choice. Just remember to always watch your back, and don’t let anyone double cross you.

The Hunt is difficult. It gives, and it takes. But it is just, and you’ll do well."

twilit quiver
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Except for the repetition with "there presence" in the paragraph about the bosses, it's great

wintry root
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oh. oops lol

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fixed

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thanks

spiral otter
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"Beast of great power" should be plural: "Beasts of great power hide in their compounds..."

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Might also want to capitalize Hell, since it's a proper name in this usage

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But yeah, I like it

wintry root
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yeah, I suck at proofreading

spiral otter
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No worries

mint glade
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"a viral disease with a high casualty rate" is an anachronism in dire need of removal or replacement with "curse" or "miasma".

Viruses were speculatively discovered in 1892, by "speculatively discovered" I mean that experiments conclusively determined that there IS something, apparently too small to see, but debate about exact nature of the pathogen was open for years. One of hypotheses was that pathogen was a form of fluid, or toxin released by bacteria. Viruses were directly observed in 1930, only after invention of electron microscopes.

Furthermore, according to wiki, first use of "viral" as adjective dates to 1948.

There is NO way "people" would be saying "viral disease" in 1896, they would be saying "germs" or "miasma", depending on their level of knowledge. Miasma theory was conclusively proven as false as late as 1850s, which is not to say that this conclusion reached immediate wide acceptance in medical community, certain circles were holding on to miasma as as late as 1890s (there is a cynical saying that "science advances one funeral at the time"), general public would certainly say "miasma" even longer.

wintry root
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Oooo okay now that is a problem. Thanks

timber frigate
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Sadly Sadge

wintry root
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sadge.jpg

mint glade
# timber frigate Confirmed by a dev on rachtas stream that no snow or rain here is ever coming.

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timber frigate
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Kills performance

wintry root
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F

earnest jungle
mint glade
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Should be just snow as weather condition, if rain was mentioned together with snow.

timber frigate
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I only remember them just saying snow or rain overall won’t be possible. It was a Q&A so they were just answering anything that popped up in Rachtas chat

mint glade
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After all, snow as in "snowy map" should be just a matter of texture.

timber frigate
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Don’t remember them talking specifically about it just being on the ground

mint glade
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Though actual snow on the ground would require engine to handle players and mobs leaving tracks.

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And that's a dangerous area.

shell forge
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Would it be to much if the tracks went away after a few seconds or something?

mint glade
# shell forge Would it be to much if the tracks went away after a few seconds or something?

That's a pretty standard approach, but in such case, why even have tracks at all?

At the same time, tracks left long enough to actually track other players, while immensely cool, would increase resource demand on server (to keep... track of them), bandwidth and player's computers (probably rather small impact) and open another avenue for cheating because all data about tracks would have to be sent to client and could be extracted by another program.

wintry root
mint glade
# wintry root Oooo okay now that is a problem. Thanks

At the same time, it IS possible that Crytek already made a mistake and used "virus" in some lore parts. You mention governor saying something, I recall that there is some lore about governor saying something, so that statement is a reference, however I don't remember details. So it is possible that "viral" ship has already sailed, by Crytek's lorecrafter's mistake. Unfortunately, I can not look it up right now.

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Sorry, I initially quoted wrong message.

wintry root
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hmm lemme checc

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yeah no, no mention of virus

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that I know of

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(at least not in the Governor's assurance)

mint glade
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Personally I would still avoid use of "virus" or "viral", but if Crytek already used it anachronistically,I retract my objection.

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Ah, ok.

wintry root
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I did change it to "deadly disease"

mint glade
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Yeah, I noticed.

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Didn't fancy working "miasma" in there? Makes sense, considering that I don't recall Crytek using "miasma" in lore either.

wintry root
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Didn't sound right to me.

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I kinda associate miasma with cities, not oper countryside

spiral otter
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Would "plague" be appropriate?

wintry root
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iirc "miasma" basically meant "bad air" since thats how people believe diseases spread

mint glade
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In this context "miasma" refers to "Miasma theory of diseases". Basically that diseases are caused by bad air and this bad air is referred to as "miasma".

wintry root
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(part of the old Louisiana Event Scrapbook. it's on the wiki)

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and I don't wanna look like I'm copying it, firstly because I'm not and also because somehow, despite that, the sentence structures turned out very similar.

mint glade
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I looked it up, apparently word "plague" dates back to 15 century so no danger of anachronism here.

wintry root
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it's scary actually, how close to that I came by accident

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and "disease" apparently goes back to the 14th

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thanks for the help

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I learned a lot today

mint glade
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Good. So merely a matter of stylistic choice, then.

wintry root
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i suppose?

mint glade
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I did not mean to criticise your choice.

wintry root
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I didn't take it as criticism

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we're good

mint glade
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Cool.

wintry root
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and again, thank you.

mint glade
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np

wintry root
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Heh

jaunty orchid
distant tartan
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are the rifts

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Portals to another realm??

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The ones from quickplay?

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And is the sculptor human? or does anyone know what he is?

opaque glade
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I think the rifts might help spread the corruption

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But I dunno anything about them really

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so don't take my word

noble scarab
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They aren't so much of a portal as they are a tear in reality. The Sculptor is some kind of unknown entity, certainly not human.

opaque glade
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He is a rat

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vermin

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kill him

wintry root
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This reminds me - is that age-old Loa theory still valid?

timber cobalt
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the revenant is not a ghoul like people have suggested in the past it seems he is walking dead

wintry root
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I'm sorry, where is the lore in this image?

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delet this

rapid coral
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its lore

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of killing

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as u can read sir

wintry root
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That ain't lore. That's you bragging about your achievements.

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Which is not what this channel is for.

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the white lines in the backgroud of that are interesting though. do we have any images of that in decent quality and not photos of a screen?

mint glade
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I think that's just standard background image for that screen, but because of brightness/gamma settings it's more visible on this photo?

wintry root
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ok

mint glade
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I'm away for a few days so I can't launch the game and make sure, but I'm quite sure there IS something in the background that I never really paid much attention to.

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It would be interesting if background image had variable visibility based on match results, but I doubt that's the case, IMO it's just brightness.

spiral otter
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Does this help?

unknown.png
wintry root
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this exactly, thanks

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gonna need to brighten it to see what the inscriptions say

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tomorrow.

spiral otter
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They look like alchemical symbols or something to me. I don't see any lettering, unless you're talking about whatever's on the top left section of the outer circle

wintry root
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yeah, that

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it's probably in voynich

spiral otter
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That would make sense

mint glade
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Looks like some kind of heptagram where one arm turns into chalice.

untold blaze
rose cape
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any1 know the origin of the bomb lance? im working on a project for work and would love to know this

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this is the lore of RONIN the KILLER

rapid coral
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YES YES EXACTLY AND THIS 40 years old neon 3 stars 2000h interested about vetterli's lore lol

icy brook
rose cape
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thank you sir

earnest jungle
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The bomblance is a modified whaling harpoon

icy brook
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^

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I think shellback or the turtle themed lance if I’m mistaking the name states it’s nautical origins

rose cape
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thanks guys my project looks better now

icy brook
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What are you making if you don’t mind me asking?

wintry root
silent vine
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Might be a weird question, but why are hunters actually competing with each other? Is it because nobody wants to share the bounties? But if so, why isn't there only solo hunters, not in pairs or threes etc. Or is it something else?

wintry root
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Greed plays into it, and so does the urge hunters get when investigating clues. It pulls them in

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Makes them really wanna go go get the bounty

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I guess

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And of course there are also personal rivalries and vendettas

rapid coral
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Neon But isnt that true what i said?

rapid coral
wintry root
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I hope you become a meme in this here channel

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fuckin RONIN the KILLER lmao

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And just in case you actually don't know what this channel is for and haven't been trolling this entire time

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https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Lore

Hunt: Showdown Wiki
Lore

Different lore entries can be found in game, on the official page and official social media. The game developers have also provided additional information in lore AMA sessions on Discord.

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It's for stuff like this

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And the discussion of said stuff

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Not for bragging about your kdr

rotund ferry
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What's your favorite Hunt lore?

rapid coral
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Neon But its funny that I Dont really care about kd and everything, Just wanted to maybe show what I did 14 kills as solo on 5 stars For meme as lore of killing and u are like delete this

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What the fuck? U have no friends or u want to be mad ?

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It was Just a single photo and comment

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And ur like delete this

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U dont have to care

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If u dont like it

wintry root
rapid coral
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And I dont care ? My fault ur sitting there 8 hours a day commenting everything ?

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It was Just a single photo in 1000 of them

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And u gotta comment it wrong

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Find life buddy

wintry root
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And YOU find a proper channel for bragging.

rotund ferry
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That's alot of text to justify you posting in the wrong channel lol

wintry root
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You strike me as the kind of guy that would post NSFW in chat and then complain because he got banned.

rapid coral
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If there was a Channel eat ur shit would u do it ? I dont really understand, man okay my fault i did it But It was A SINGLE PHOTO AND SINGLE COMMENT

wintry root
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Yeah and that's one photo and one comment too much. And you seem be defending that mistake

rapid coral
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Can we Just stop texting that ur life is nowhere and that I cant readm

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Okay sure i dont really care go sit there next 2 days without family

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And comment thats wrong

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Bye

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Hah

wintry root
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The proper reaction to being told that you posted in the wrong channel is tk say "oops I'm sorry, my bad, I'll find the proper one", not "I can post anything anywhere I want, get a life loser". It's basic discord etiquette

rapid coral
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Nolife

wintry root
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Reported.

rapid coral
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Can I Just ask how Old are you ?

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Young Age For sure

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Haha

wintry root
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Older than you. Judging by everything, I'm putting you at no more that 16.

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So get lost, kid.

rapid coral
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Get lost haha

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Thats sure and I even hope ur older

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IM sorry For only you that u can be 30 yo mean nothing in the game and still spend 8 hours on this single channel

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Because this serwer is amazing and u can meet a lot of kind people

wintry root
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That's true. Shame someone decided to use it to brag.

rapid coral
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Talking interactive joining channels to play with

wintry root
rapid coral
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But I hope no one will decide to play with you

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Because me and you mean nothing in the game we gonna lose or win But spending 8 hours on this Channel?IM gonna delete this photo if its okay, im sorry For the wrong Channel aswell

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But Just Try to sometime play with people its really fun

wintry root
rapid coral
wintry root
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And yeah, thanks for finally owning up.

rapid coral
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I do

wintry root
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We all make mistakes, don't worry about it

rapid coral
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No more of this photo

wintry root
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Just don't react like that to being told you're in the wrong channel.

rapid coral
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Yee, kinda reacted like karen hehe

wintry root
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And I do apologize for the insults I threw your way too.

dapper ibex
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Damn that was some interesting lore

wintry root
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Innnit?

opaque glade
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so uh, I just want someone to fix me if I'm wrong. He was youngest of eight, had a brother and sister named Ember and Ash

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they burned up

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he named two revolvers after them

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he got accepted into the AHA because of how good he was

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and there's a rumor that says Kid was actually the one that started the fire

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oh yeah, I forgot to mention

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I'm talking about The Kid

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there may be a hint to him sacrificing Ember and Ash for good skill

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obviously, is it correct?

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no

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probably not

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who knows though

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"that is until he got so good at shooting that people started whispering he'd made some kind of dark deal"
his brother and sister burn up into ash and he has extreme skill with dual wielding two revolvers named after the two

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bunch of rumors

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but it looks like townspeople are trying to say something about him

earnest jungle
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Could be the kid made a deal with the devil to be a skilled gunfighter and unknowingly sacrificed his sacrificed his siblings.

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Or it could just be viscous gossip like with the rumors around the Bone Doctor.

wintry root
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Fog o'war, I guess

icy brook
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I hope we get to see folks in William Carter’s Wild West show, maybe even see a Harry Houdini kind of character if Carter’s shows are more PT Barnum-esque

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A snake man or even bearded lady skin would be interesting

opaque glade
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just hunting

icy brook
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That would be dope

empty owl
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it would be quite nice to actually see jana and ethyl in the flesh

fallow gorge
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If we can have black coat even though he's canonically dead, we can definitely have Jana and Ethyl

upper turtle
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who is black coat?

jaunty orchid
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I think we can all agree that canonically Cain is stinky

noble scarab
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Cain out here wrapped in barb wire, covered in mud and skulls, and worse. mans gotta reek.

noble scarab
wintry root
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Ah yes. Fin and Jos.

tardy sentinel
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wait black coat was their dad?

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what a nice family

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kills his brother then they kill their dad

noble scarab
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He also killed their mother after she gave birth to them

wintry root
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All around nice guy, y'know?

noble scarab
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A regular family man

tardy sentinel
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bruh

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sometimes i think i know a lot about hunt lore and then i come here

rotund ferry
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Alright list of questions for this one: who are the twins and what is their significance? Who was their uncle and why did Black Coat kill him? Also how is Black Coat still alive in game? Just cosmetic stuff or is there lore behind it?

junior pecan
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We don’t actually now the significance of Bad As They Seem beyond its mention of Huff’s death. Everything else is questionable in content and questionable in effect

rotund ferry
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Ahhh gotcha, thank you!

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Though, why was Huff assassinated to begin with, besides being the head of the AHA?

empty owl
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you can see it from one of the bad as they seem manuscripts or an alternative explanation on the bornheim match mastery

wintry root
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But then again this rests on a literal interpreation of Bad as the seem, which iirc we're unsure of whether it's true or not

empty owl
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or downright fabrication considering that bad as they seem in a manuscript for something

wintry root
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Yeah

rotund ferry
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Who is Lynch and where do I find out more about him?

wintry root
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*her

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I think there is a bit in frag lore

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And "bad as they seem"

rotund ferry
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Ah, her, my bad

wintry root
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There are also other places but idk

empty owl
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lynch is the twin's mentor of the sort

wintry root
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Lynch made the inoculum

empty owl
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that and some really shady chessmaster behind the AHA

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could be even more powerful than huff in terms of influence

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possibly not even human

wintry root
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P̶̼͘o̸̩̓s̶̚͝s̸̝̅ĩ̷̧b̵̋̓l̶͗̅y̷̛͛ ̷̠͝t̸̒͝ḧ̴̪ê̸̈́ ̵́͐s̸͑̂a̴̾̀m̸̾̈́e̷̔̚ ̴̈͘k̸̇̓ī̶̃ń̸̎d̸̏͠ ̷̆̋ȯ̷͝f̶̳̈́ ̴̼̚ĕ̴́ň̶̆t̵̏͑i̷͑͠t̷̍̕ÿ̵̏ ̴̂̈ä̴́͊s̴̅͛ ̸̃̾t̸̎̿ḧ̸̎é̵̌ ̷̉̕Ŝ̷̂c̷̨̈́ů̸̏ĺ̷̆p̶̈͊t̴͛̕o̷̊͊r̸̰͝

empty owl
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the thing that confuses me the most is huff's second in command

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i forgot his name, it sounds like lynch

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oh wait, finch

wintry root
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Wasn't finch more like a close associate?

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Not a 2nd in command?

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Also finch runs "the cabin", a sort of neutral ground for hunters to rest and heal

empty owl
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pretty sure he's his second in command

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considering that he got transferred from the cabin to work at jackson

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and he did met will salters who describes him as someone who's probably have a few screws loose

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but then again, it's a salters i'm talking about can't really trust their stories

rose cape
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Is there any mention of ghouls in the hunt showdown lore? I’m working on a fan fiction and would love to know. Thanks

wintry root
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Ghouls, as in, undead made by vampires?

old kelp
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Ghouls as in, infected im assuming?

visual finch
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Or Ghouls as corpse-eater thingy?

wintry root
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By the original pre-Islamic Arabic definition of ghoul, I guess all Grunts could apply

old kelp
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If thats the case its just the grunts, then the hives, armored, immolator and meatheads, then your bosses.

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When i think ghoul, i think of the perk lmao

wintry root
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Although rarer, Ghoul can also be used to describe a person whose profession has something to do with graves, or has macabre interests

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Like a grave digger, or a grave robber

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Not sure if we have any of them in the lore

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Didn't this question come up like 10 times I the past week?

rose cape
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Thanks guys. Yes there’s a lot of talk of ghouls making an appearance next year as a legendary hunter (maybe next Halloween event?)

wintry root
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This exactly

empty owl
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another revenant? gee

wintry root
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Okay, safe to say the cat's out the bag now.

I've just posted the final chapter of Long Way Out, my Hunt short story. I can only say that it contains an interpretation of some thing we aren't entirely sure of. See if you can catch them, if you're interested of course.

Here's part one, links to all other parts are contained within. https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/rj4o9i/long_way_out_chapter_i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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opaque glade
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guys

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who is Richard

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and why does the Prod Daughter have a bullet with his name on it

jaunty orchid
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Ex boyfriend I’m guessing

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Cause she’s a angry lass

rotund ferry
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Very angry, some people killed her mom who was a civil war hero and she's come to the Bayou looking for the people who did it. Richard is likely one of the culprits.

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So, what do we know about the Sculptor? Where does it come from, why is it assaulting the Bayou, etc.?

jaunty orchid
sudden glacier
bronze schooner
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Any stories about the other places it supposedly attacked?

inner temple
empty owl
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i think there’s actually a story taking place in new york during said infection and that it was successfully contained

opaque glade
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the first Immolater was a priest or a preacher, right?

rotund ferry
rotund ferry
sudden glacier
quasi crow
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Does anyone know to what extent the infection has spread to?

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Like is it just in America, or is it literally on other continents as well

jaunty orchid
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Seeing as some eurpeon hunters came to America to fight monsters prolly only America

sudden glacier
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also Asia

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china specifically I believe

wintry root
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Events happen time to time around the world

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But this one is special in some way

quasi thorn
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What's down in kingsnake mines tho ? Cause it supposed to make you lose your mind according to Port Sulphur HuntDoge

mint glade
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IIRC there was also a reference to middle eastern hunting "brotherhood" (what they called themselves?) in one of the event. So it's fairly safe to assume that Sculptor's "attacks" on our reality are a global phenomenon.

wintry root
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We don't even know if these events are caused by the same entity of different ones

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But yeah the middle eastern group are called "Sinners" iirc

mint glade
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True. It might be a... let's say Painter instead of Sculptor. For all we know there might be entire conflict between interdimensional demons over who gets to have fun invading our reality. But AFAIK all those influence incursions bear enough similarity to assume it's either the same entity, very similar entity, it's allies or servants, basically that they are somehow connected.

noble scarab
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It’s mentioned that there are more than one type of entity behind these incursions. Lynch is potentially one of them, she just has a grudge against the Sculptor for some reason.

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The NY one was the most recent and consisted of only grunts and infection, and was evidently contained, but resulted in the near complete loss of that chapter of the AHA due to someone giving faulty info on how to make the serum.

fair agate
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What exactly is Nian that the Chinese hunters go after?

wintry root
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@rose cape how are those ghouls coming along? Any new information?

mint glade
# fair agate What exactly is Nian that the Chinese hunters go after?

Some take on actual folklore, I presume.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nian

Nian

According to Chinese mythology, a 'Nian' (Chinese: 年獸; pinyin: nián shòu) is a beast that lives under the sea or in the mountains. The character nian more usually means "year" or "new year". The earliest written sources that refer to the nian as a creature date to the early 20th century. As a result, it is unclear whether the Nian creature is an...

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According to wiki, Nian is a monster that comes out to feed around the time of Chinese new year. Written records of Nian apparently start appearing around the start of XX century, with earlier written records matching customs related to scaring off Nian, but without any mention of Nian itself prior to XX century.

wintry root
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probably some Hunt-like monstorsity, except in China

mint glade
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It would seem so, yes.

wintry root
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there was an event like this one in China at some point, right?

mint glade
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Chinese boss monster.

wintry root
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that'd be interesting to see too

mint glade
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Lack of pre XX century written record is especially good tie-in to Hunt.

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It implies that it's a late XIX century infestation, similar to what's going on in Louisiana.

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Steam store description of DLC is as follows:

Many think the monster is only a legend. Many think the fight is only a symbol. But each Spring, Nian marks the turning of the year by coming out to hunt, devouring livestock and shredding human flesh between its murderous teeth. Spring is approaching again, and as local Hunters will tell you, Nian is no symbol; Nian is a symptom – of the Sculptor’s influence – and an enemy against which many Chinese Hunters cut their teeth and learn their trade.

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This would imply Some form of "slow burn" infestation.

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That instead of taking over large area, Sculptor sends out Nians in early spring every year.

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Perhaps some remote area is infested that Chinese hunters couldn't track down until in-game now.

wintry root
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knowing China around that time period, any form of infestation probably cause major problems every year/get out of hand fast. hence, many hunters needed.

mint glade
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Or perhaps it's somehow different from what we see in Hunt.

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Do you mean that China was always a very populous place, or do you mean fact that it was at the time rather underdeveloped because of factors like period of isolationism followed by fall into de-facto status as a colony?

wintry root
violet heart
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I think both apply well to be fair. What was populated was very dense in the late 1800s afaik in China.

rose cape
wintry root
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great to hear 😆

empty owl
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the fact that most hunters primarily use hand to hand combat due to issues concerning tradition kind of worsen it as well

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you can see it being mentioned on one of the stillwater bayou’s challenge maps that were discussing i believe to be either the sovereign or zhong kui’s exploits

rotund ferry
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so what was the spider

hollow mortar
rotund ferry
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how, what made them fuse

hollow mortar
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them boys got that virus

wintry root
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Dat Dæmonic corruption

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Dat Sculptor influence

frank bobcat
rose cape
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Hey guys you may have seen above I’m working on a hunt short story - it’s mainly ghoul focussed and I’ve got some great content so far (the perk/ revenant/ Halloween event etc). Is there any evidence/description about goblins in the lore at all? And if so any links would be appreciated. Many thanks

noble scarab
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No goblins, your best bet might be looking into Chinese Nian and selling what kinds of monsters you can pull from that because those seem to be present in the Hunt universe, probably as a result of whatever infection/invasion Asia has going on in 1895.

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Alternatively you could make up some lore about European Hunters dealing with goblins from a different invasion, seeing as how in the Hunt universe mythology seems to stem from monsters from invasions, or vise versa

empty owl
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but then again, the nians never made an appearance on louisiana or other parts of the world and they seem to be a continent specific threat

noble scarab
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also true and worth consideration^

wintry root
wintry root
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This is some high level kek

mint glade
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Speaking of reality-turned-myth, at some point I encountered interesting hypothesis that portrayal of the fairies as woodland creatures afraid of iron is a cultural remnant of conflict between ironworking cultures and those that did not poses ironworking skills. Within this hypothesis, primitive stone or bronze era culture invaded and eliminated or absorbed by ironworking culture became treacherous fay or fairies within memory of the victors.

Whether this hypothesis has any merit or not, I do not know, but it is the kind of storytelling logic that fits myths-as-memories as implied by Hunt lore.

icy brook
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As an anthropologist this checks out

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Given the way early European explorers viewed groups like Congolese Pygmies and Viking depictions of Native Americans

cold idol
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So, what about that Kingsnake mine

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It's mentioned in the song "Rabbit in the mine"

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Somebody wrote to presumably hunter woman that he found an answer deep in there

empty owl
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it could be anything down there

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considering that we have no definitive answer regarding it, it could be the thing that starts the whole infection or something else equally sinister to the sculptor

rustic hearth
lyric loom
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your memes are making me cringE, Cain

empty owl
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Welcome to kek or cringe with Dr. Phillip Huff Jones

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that meme is cringe ly-got slit

wintry root
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"I say it's kek, Huff"

flat snow
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Hello lore peeps. Saw a suggestion which got me thinking. Someone noted that New Orleans would make for a good map, but the question I have is whether or not New Orleans is a safe haven in Louisiana or is this possible? What do we know about New Orleans in the Hunt: Showdown Universe?

icy brook
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Over the years of lore it seems to be a staging point, or expedient base of operations for the various factions of hunters

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Although it’s alluded to that some voodoo using factions like the Bone Doctor’s cult have deeper connections to New Orleans, or rather Louisiana as a whole

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Or at least that’s my interpretation

noble scarab
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The dark miasma pistol lore mentions that the plague is now in parts of New Orleans in some capacity

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So it may be more or less safe depending on how virulent it is/how well the Hunters keep it under wraps

drowsy canopy
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The Hunters seem to be good at fighting the plague part of the corruption. I mean they were competent enough to cut the hive nest out of a thirteen year old girl that was infected preventing her transformation (Ada Ruth Shell as mention in the hive Book of Monsters Entries). I think the reason the plague spread in the bayou was that is was so isolated and poor that the locals were naturally vulnerable to any disease let alone a supernatural one. With the hunters supervising the response in New Orleans, the plague probably fizzled out.

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its possible itself that medical isolation, and actual hospitals may have helped fight the plague. Most of the entries we have about people succumbing to it have them succumb in their own homes. Perhaps even mundane medical care vastly increase one's chances of survival.

timber cobalt
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why do i keep seeing discussions about goblins in the lore? interesting concept

empty owl
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considering that the AHA headquarter is located in New Orleans and also the fact that most factions are based in the same area, i guess the infection would be quelled in large forces and would be instantly taken care of

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oh wait, it's at jackson

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nevermind

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also, considering that the New Orleans Police is more or less prepared to quell any sort of riots (considering the racial tensions at the time) i'd say that even police officers are capable of taking care of the infection to an extent

earnest jungle
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Problem with that is most riot control tactics start with the base assumption of a basic sense of self preservation not found in your typical grunt.

empty owl
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exactly, that's why i said that they can deal with it to an extent

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and considering the liberal usage of brute force at the time, i guess that whatever confrontation they had with the grunts are going to end violently

noble scarab
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New Orleans isnt a stranger to plague, they had a bunch of issues with malaria/yellow fever and other mosquito-borne diseases in i think the 1870s

upper turtle
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ngl the sculptor sounds pretty incompetent considering the place the infection has even succeeded to a degree is in a dirty rural swamp

rose cape
wintry root
drowsy canopy
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the problem is simply the infection takes time and New Orleans is too densely populated. The Bayou turned because people hardly noticed what was happening due to its isolation. Unless people begin dying in Black Death levels, there is simply way there will be enough grunts to make a dent, and more advanced forms like armoreds and hives which would present a real threat to the typical mob or policeman take too long to make before someone notices the transformation is happening and puts the person down before they turn

wintry root
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And again

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We know this never happened

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Because the LouVent is not known to the public even to this day

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And something on this scale happening is out of the question

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A minor occurrence like a grunt or two could have happened

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And would likely be dealt with immediately

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(Like the New York event)

mighty lintel
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Hey I’m just starting to get into the lore and I was wondering some basic stuff to get things cleared up. So there have been mentions of incidents in other places around the country like in El Paso and New York. Do we know what happened there and are there anymore names incidents we know of (I know there are many throughout history but like any that are named)

wintry root
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Iirc, the New York event was only a minor Grunt outbreak that was quelled before it could take hold. The president of the New York chapter of the AHA got murdered by "The Skinflint" later. Source: Accounts Recieved (2020 Christmas event story)

As for El Paso, something similar I think. These events occur around the world, there are mentions of an event in China too. Generally they happen around the world from time to time. But this one is special in some way.

mighty lintel
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Well yeah because the other ones I would assume didn’t have the sort of monstrous alterations of the grunts.

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But yes makes sense

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The grunts though gain their abilities from the rifts right. So something else also might have jumped through the rifts in New York and El Paso. If something did though then why were they so much tamer?

wintry root
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It's possible those were cause by a less powerful entity

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Or that they were contained before they could reach a critical mass

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Things are vague, as they are best in horror

mighty lintel
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Yeah which is why I love the lore

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Honestly I can’t wait to see where all this goes. I know we will probably never get all the answers but hey it’s still fascinating

jovial basin
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i dont know a lot about the lore, but it seems to me, those events have more been a critcal mass thing.
The sculptor is a transdimensional entity trying to pass to the hunt world and for whatever reason. Doing it in morelocations would be easier, as more points of contact would led to one morelikely succeding. also its debateable on the bases of what the being would be spacely, cause i wouldnt suspect the correspondance of the other dimension would be one to one, meaning locations arent distantly similarly connected.

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also a thing, the sculptor seems to not corrupt people directly but actually controls insect and bugs, which in turn overtake the humans

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so for new york there could even be made an argument about the biodiversity

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even tho a weak one

noble scarab
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It seems like these entities can’t all try at once, or try more than once within a certain amount of time. Also these entities have rivalries and will attempt to mess with each other, ie Lynch acting against the Sculptor when she herself is one of these entities

icy brook
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I wish we could get more info about the Cascade incident

empty owl
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a map set in the west coast seems interesting to me tbh

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it would be nice to visit some other place that isn't in the middle of nowhere, louisiana for once

noble scarab
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Carters guns + the gold mini Winnie skin sorta hint at the Cascades, tho that could just relate to that incident, seeing as how most of those guns are from around there

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Also happy new year all!

mighty lintel
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Wait hold on Lynch is one of the entities

noble scarab
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Yes she is, at least according to Bad as they seem

mighty lintel
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Huh

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I had my suspicion, after she’s done so much to hinder the AHA. But yeah it makes sense, especially the rivalry cause she’s all gung ho to kick the Sculptor back to Ruby Tuesdays or whatever other demented world he’s from

plain zenith
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@noble scarab Is she an entity or is she controled by one?

wintry root
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If my interpretation is correct, she got possessed by an entity. She looks like Lynch, but isn't.

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As far as "Bad As They Seem" is concerned, we don't know if it's factual or fiction.

plain zenith
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@wintry root So Lynch should look heavily injured

wintry root
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No, because the entity that possessed her healed the body

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I think

empty owl
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considering that bad as they seem could be an exagerrated account of events, i’d say lynch made some sort of pact with a rival entity to that of the sculptor and became its servant in quelling the threat

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not saying that this entity is benevolent in any sort of way

wintry root
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The ritual could have been a trade of "I offer you an in into our reality if you keep me alive"

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Or something like that

granite magnet
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what even is the lore, i never looked it up

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are there any lore videos about Hunt?

wintry root
granite magnet
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cool

wintry root
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But the lore is very splintered

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In many cases we don't know what is true and what is not

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And a lot of things are vague by desigm

granite magnet
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i know that there is somekind of supernatural bullshit going on

wintry root
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That's pretty obvious. There is a lot to unpack and I really can't recommend watching that series more

noble scarab
wintry root
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Yeah once she takes off the veneer of being human

drowsy canopy
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Bad As They Seem should be taken with a small mountain of skepticism, it already is known to contradict other parts of the lore with the most prominent example being the death of Huff. Still Lynch at the very least has a better understanding of 'magic' than the rest of the hunters and is pursuing her own agenda because of it, whether that agenda is selfless or not. It may be that she simply has a better idea of the threat the sculptor poses and as a result is not willing to 'farm' it like Huff was.

rotund ferry
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??

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Can someone please sum up the lore

mighty lintel
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These videos helped me gain a foothold

wintry root
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We aim to explain.

rotund ferry
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Okay thank you

rose cape
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there needs to be an updated video with the recent ghoul information which has come to light

mighty lintel
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What leads to the creation of Immolators again? Doesn’t it have to do with volatile emotions or something

rotund ferry
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Bro what?

jagged tide
mighty lintel
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Ah alright thanks for letting me know

rotund ferry
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@rose cape to what information do you refer to good sir?

rotund ferry
noble scarab
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its all in the book of weapons/monsters

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most lore is in there, not in game

rotund ferry
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Ohhhhhh

empty owl
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either that or the straight in the game's website

rotund ferry
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I see

empty owl
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note: the old lore does not fit some parts of the new lore and should be treated as pseudo non canon until proven otherwise

jagged tide
empty owl
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yup

potent merlin
split oak
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Also, immolator

timber cobalt
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just seen some sort of goblin in game

slim hatch
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Old Lore > New Lore

wintry root
jovial basin
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Cain?

rose cape
fallen ibex
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Lf1

rustic hearth
fallen ibex
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@rustic hearth yeah my bad, new to discord meant to switch tabs ><

frank bobcat
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It'd stand to reason meatheads, armoured and the bosses themselves are just pale imitations too

mighty lintel
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Cause unlike the Meatheads and Immolators which all look like carbon copies of each other. The hives are different, different skin colors, different dresses, different hair colors.

quick spade
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there was a girl in new orleans who successfully had a hive removed

split oak
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I dislike how a good chunk of the lore hinges on pretty much everyone associated with the AHA being colossal fucking dinguses

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But it is realistic, so I'll take it

drowsy canopy
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the AHA is not always dinguses but mostly people acting on flawed information or with radically different takes on what has to be done to end the infection

rotund ferry
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If meatheads are made through women getting stung by hives or what-not

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How are hives made?

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I know how the first two were made but how do are there clones of the same?

drowsy canopy
# rotund ferry How are hives made?

the infection taking the form of the wasp nest grows the abdomen of the woman in a way that makes it appear as if they are going through a rapid and severe pregnancy which then bursts through the belly and begins spreading wasps everywhere. After a template is established it is believed (though not confirmed) that the eggs spun by the spider slowly grow new copies of the hives

rotund ferry
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Ooh

drowsy canopy
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I have a secondary theory though

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in that new monsters are birthed into the world through rifts which I think as 'tendrils' of sorts of the Sculptor's influence

rotund ferry
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Yeah

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I read a lot of the lore but I'm still puzzled on the immolators and hives existence

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The hive is my main concern

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I really like how lore is described through descriptions of the events occurring in the Louisiana bayou

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If I remember correctly the Winfield vandal lore connects to the lore for the phantom

drowsy canopy
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yes the Vandal's entry was indeed written by the Phantom

wet sparrow
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I am pretty sure this is wrong

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Female hunters in general just couldn’t give birth before the formula for the shit that makes them hunters made everyone sterile

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Before that meatheads were the consequence for becoming pregnant

wintry root
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I'd have to recheck that

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Un-inoculated women getting stung by Hives turn into more Hives.

wispy creek
# rotund ferry I read a lot of the lore but I'm still puzzled on the immolators and hives exist...

Not sure about the hives but if you look in quickplay when you're still alive after the wellspring depletes, you begin to start to catch fire, it starts with your hand it almost bursts from inside of you. Maybe there's something going on here and that's how immolators are made. It would make sense that immolators are the hunters since it's said that the immolators have above average intelligence and can even open doors

wispy creek
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I can't remember how they're created, though

tall lava
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Not a lore expert at all but from my understanding at least the special AI are just copies of the original one that sculptor makes, meathead being a baby of a huntress that got pregnant, immolator having something to do with the revenant, and quickplay is not the actual hunters but a form of a purgatory for their souls...?

trail yew
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btw who is the guy on the map that was like painting

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a place

flat elk
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Bob Ross

wintry root
# wispy creek No no women stung by hives give birth to meatheads

Okay iirc at the beginning of the event, women in the Bayou began experiencing pregnancies without sexual contact. Every one of them turned into Hives (except Ada Ruth Shell, who had the "pregnancy" aborted). I just assumed it all originated from one and spread.

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Idk what caused the butcher and meathead but they are connected in a way if I remember it right

wintry root
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The OG meathead was a child of an Inoculated women who became pregnant. The serum corrupted the child.

wispy creek
wintry root
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Oof

wispy creek
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The apron on the butcher is fireproof and the metal poles in the butcher caused it to be stuck by lightning

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The lighting ignited the hook too

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That's why the butcher is all fire

wintry root
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Now that I what I call a...

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Uh...

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Something idk

lucid quail
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Isn't the scrapbeak lore some soldier lost his legs and he was brought into some scary beetle juice doctors office where he got new legs along with a funny beak?

wintry root
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Dunno

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Would need to check

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I have my own interpretation but...

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That's a different story. Hint.

rustic hearth
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@wintry root tell us

tiny cargo
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A civil war amputee with an obsession of birds and kleptomania

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That's his lore

wheat quarry
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So hey its my first time speaking in this chat and in one of my games a noticed words in the wall, is it know or something?

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noble scarab
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probably an easter egg, but i've never seen that one

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what map is on it?

jovial basin
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Looks like desalle near the quarry

empty owl
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he's also an alcoholic from what i remember

wintry root
wintry root
empty owl
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yup

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forgot which ones though

wintry root
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Well shit there goes any hope of my short story's lore veracity lol

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Legends, I guess. I think you could still kinda wiggle it in there but...

rustic hearth
rose cape
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so with the new goblin lore do we feel like there will be additional content realting to this? perhaps a new skin?

timber cobalt
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i only saw that mentioned in the berthier weapon progress tbh

fallow gorge
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can someone post the full berthier pages?

noble scarab
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It’s in the chat, wayyyyy back. I don’t recall it mentioning goblins, and idk where people are getting that from. It had to do with a Hunter/normal lady couple getting pregnant which resulted in her wanting to eat hellhounds, as well as showing that something with the serum isn’t working, or the dudes an old Hunter from pre-meathead times

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Screenshot, but there you go

split oak
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I think the Meathead danger is only existing when the lady is the hunter

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Like, thats what I got from the meathead pages, it was the connection between mother and fetus that made it possible for the meathead to be born, so it wouldnt necessarily be a problem for dude hunters to have kids

wintry root
empty owl
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i think its just me but goblins in lore sounds a bit too fantasy-ish

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if it were to be somesort of a fetus creature that the sculptor altered to look like a goblin however, i think that would made sense

icy brook
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^^

spiral otter
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I mean, I really don't think they'll add any kind of fantasy creatures that just exist in the world but are completely hidden from non-magical people for some reason. Any new monsters are almost certainly going to be created by the Sculptor from existing creatures.

valid dove
tiny cargo
sudden glacier
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WoW crossover?

wintry root
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Hellsing crossover?

rose cape
wintry root
empty owl
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oh great, plasma weapon meta

deep escarp
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you're on to something...

lucid quail
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Well now it's just gone

deep escarp
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:(

wintry root
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What did he say

bitter creek
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what's the lore say about who puts the metal helmet on the hellhounds?

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whoever it is, definitely should be killable, the pos

upper turtle
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ahahaha

noble scarab
orchid shoal
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In black coats bio it says the word monika? What is that supposed to mean?

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Like the girls name?

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Perhaps that’s a legendary skin for a gun he uses that I don’t know about?

tall lava
orchid shoal
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It’s not spelled as moniker but thanks for the clarification

tall lava
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Might be incorrect still ingame then

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On the wiki it's correct

orchid shoal
tall lava
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I'll ask them if they forgot to update it ingame next monday, thanks for pointing it out

orchid shoal
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👍

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He’s my favorite character so I like reading up on him and this was just weird

ripe inlet
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What we know about sinners? I look for them abit but cannot find many thing. Only thing i know about them is they take them self as dammed and going to hell. So they dont care about consequences of ther actions. What is there objective?

wintry root
# ripe inlet What we know about sinners? I look for them abit but cannot find many thing. Onl...

IIRC the sinners are a mostly Muslim group who, like you said, see themselves as damned unless they perform the good deed of fighting the Sculptor and stuff like that. They are formidable fighters with no sense of self-preservation because they don't care about their lives and would do anything to achieve their goal. The song "Sinners Blues" sums their way of thinking pretty well in lyrical format. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTvQlT52YZU

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Hunt: Showdown (Original Game Soundtrack)

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Released on: 2019-08-27

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Music director: Florian Fuesslin
Producer: Jonas Obermueller
Mastering engineer: Jonas Obermueller
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empty owl
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think of them as the night of the hunters group without all the apocalypse stuff and the fact that they are prominently located in arabia

timber cobalt
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turns out ive been getting trolled for 3 months about the existence of goblins in the hunt lore by a few individuals and im really confused the exsistance of ghouls was quite awesome for me and i enjoyed the thought goblins may also be hidden in the references but seems i just got tricked. damn.

jovial basin
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can we have kobolds?

wintry root
timber cobalt
wintry root
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And Inoculumpilled

frank bobcat
sudden glacier
timber cobalt
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what the hell no dude some guy in voice chat gave me a 30 minutes (at least) description of how their references are hidden throughout the game and showed me some entries in the weapon descriptions which i now believe were photoshopped

sudden glacier
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that's wild, and really weird that anyone would do that

wintry root
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Man, he really outdid himself

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Top kek

ripe inlet
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@wintry root @empty owl thank you.

rustic hearth
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im genuinely impressed

timber cobalt
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this is what iwas sent

gaunt flint
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Haha that rules so much! What a weird trick

timber cobalt
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so i read that at about 2 in the morning and didn't scrutinise it and since then i've been telling people about goblins and believing it myself, searching into the lore, etc.

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that was 3 months ago...

gaunt flint
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I mean I get it, I’d love to see some hunt style goblins, I just can’t figure out what he was trying to gain by tricking you

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I guess he got it

timber cobalt
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i guess he did

gaunt flint
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Serial killer behaviour for sure

woven grail
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Hey, sorry to bother, but I am trying to find any information on the AHA. And really its sparse.

woven grail
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With goblins replacing a random word.

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All I got on hunters is
A) Everyone wants to either hunts montsers and humans
B) They inject some things that makes them sterile and have Dark Vision or however its called
C) They murdered the head of the AHA because he started to think that sending people to murder each other in the Bayou might have been a bad idea.

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You guys probably had this tlak like over and over again but I am just searching were to read anything.

noble scarab
willow cobalt
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Is there a lore reason on why the hives bees "scream"

woven grail
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Well in universe apparently there is a theory that the hives was made to Disseminate or kill whoever is around that isn't infected. So I assume its to call things nearby.

woven grail
willow cobalt
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oh cause It always made me think these things where just using some loud wing buzzing trick

woven grail
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Unless the wasps can mimic, the character in the lore recognizes the screams as her mother who transforms.

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frank bobcat
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Likely the hive is somewhat the person underneath

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It's believable they are not having the best time

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Being a monster in hunt is like being at Fyre Festival

woven grail
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There is also a theory that all the monsters are still alive, but being puppeteered by the sculptor who we know nothing about.

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Other than there are probably more than 1, or more entities like the sculptor.

frank bobcat
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The grunt lore entries suggest that the sculptor uses what was already there, meaning likely it doesn't throw out awareness etc

woven grail
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Also when I say theory I am not talking about out of universe theories, most of the lore is thoeries of people inside of the story, so they could be wrong.

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Or biased.

frank bobcat
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The sculptor wasn't able to get traction with Redneck though

woven grail
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Based Redneck

frank bobcat
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The sculptor can only effect cringe people

woven grail
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What is more cringe than 1895 Louisiana. I don't know. That is probably why something happened 10 years earlier.

gaunt flint
split oak
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oh man I feel like a fucking idiot

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rereading the vetterli mastery stories

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just realized that Leander Coetzee is pretty certainly mixed race

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somehow that one went over my head

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between "worlds", in other words, his mom was probably a native to south africa and his dad, a Boer

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considering the attitude towards race in that whole region, it'd make sense why a man like him, who's implied to be relatively well off would choose to peace out like that to the US

woven grail
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Second interpretation, he is a plane walker

lethal tusk
wintry root
split oak
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too stupid or too stubborn

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its like "bend, my child, embrace the pain"

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"go fuck yourself, voice"

empty owl
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i think the redneck was as you've mentioned quite stupid or too stubborn to care, or he's actually a fairly intelligent man with pretty high mental fortitude that got his head all muddled up by moonshine or other alcoholic substances

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of course the latter was just mere speculation but it is interesting to think on how he managed to survive that long all on his own with nothing but his weapons and general know how

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no one that stupid can survive a full blown takeover by the sculptor like what we've seen in the general desalle area and even if he is he's quite the lucky bastard considering he managed to scrounge food, ammunition, and other amenities all by himself

frank bobcat
wintry root
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The Sculptor will remember that.

icy brook
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The night also just be genetically resilient, I believe a lore bit regarding one of the Chinese hunters discussing inborn resistance that was a part of their order, also there needed to be some form of invulnerability before the inoculum was widespread

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Which begs the question of our Native American hunters are naturally immune or if they likely have a ritual of their own

wintry root
woven grail
icy brook
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^

noble scarab
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probably a mixture of both a bit of resistance and some sort of ritual. it may even stem from their contact with other entities, such as the Teche Snake and other gods

woven grail
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Where does it say the Chinese have an inborn resistance?

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As far as I know, they chinese immigrants have been fighting the same thing with a different name in their home country and then immigrated. Then they were welcomed into America by the AHA.

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So it wouldn't be that much of a crazy idea that these chinese hunters have their version of the serum.

wintry root
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Some people are just naturally talented and not corruptible / much more difficult to corrupt

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those were the people who did the Hunting before Lynch invented the Inoculum.

woven grail
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Ah

wintry root
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the inoculum is just a shortcut to that talent with like 30+ negative side effects

woven grail
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I only found like the first mention of the inoculum on the Meathead description and I thought it was ancient.

wintry root
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nope, Lynch invented it around the start of the Lousiiana event, so 1894-5

woven grail
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Like they said something like "For generations we didn't let women partake on the inoculum " etc etc.

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Maybe I am misremembering

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Let me check

wintry root
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Yeah they didnt let women hunt because they'd get infected or something iirc

woven grail
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This part

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It wasn't generations but it was a very vague, Many Many years ago.

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They should have invented dating your letters in 1890.

wintry root
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I don't have an answer for that

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but yeah

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a women inoculated with the serum gave birth to the Meathead

woven grail
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That is why I thought it was at least early 1850 at least.

wintry root
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the demon blood in it corrupts the child. thats why the sterlisise anyone who gets initiated now

woven grail
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Yeah, that is why they speak of it as if it was an ancient thing

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Because they are like That was before but now we sterilize everyone.

sudden glacier
woven grail
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But anyway. I was getting all the information trying to do a lore video.

sudden glacier
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time for my obligatory 2 month lurk

woven grail
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So knowing that a guy named lynch made it helps.

wintry root
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also Lynch is a she

woven grail
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Oh

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Ok

wintry root
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and may also be a supernatural otherworldly entity posessing a mortal woman

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we arent sure

woven grail
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Just hunt things.

wintry root
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but its probabaly the same type of entity as the Sculptor

woven grail
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Is she a legendary skin or just mentioned in lore?

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Like in weapons.

wintry root
woven grail
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Having all the lore dispersed around is kinda bothersome but cool I guess.

wintry root
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it adds to the mystery

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but yeah it is a pain because all the compiled lore docs are years old at this point

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we need to make new ones, honestly

woven grail
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Even the wiki is outdated.

wintry root
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in places

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i made that

winter basalt
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The mastery of Pax Claw describes how Lynch makes the serum.

woven grail
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Yeah

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I found it

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Also the papers of Haydeen Colins

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Heyden Collins