lore-discussion

[wet sparrow]

The hillbilly

[junior pecan]

Though some people are already associated with the AHA or another occult organization

[hollow lava]

Mhm

Ok so i kinda need a scene of the main character (Jesse St.John) getting the powers, now would he A:drink it or B:get a syrienge(sorry for misspeling) stuck in him

[junior pecan]

Either way.

Same as any other substance intended to enter the blood stream.

[hollow lava]

Ok, does the AHA have like a building they use as a base?

[junior pecan]

An asylum somewhere

But thats exclusively administration and researchers

Theres also a cabin that deals out the bounty rewards and special bounties

That one has hunter traffic through it

[hollow lava]

Ok, uhh lets say they found a 17 year old in a lockdown church surviving, would they take him to the asylum or cabin, or would he be considerd too young

[junior pecan]

Is he a hunter himself?

[hollow lava]

Well i gotta get into a bit of explaination

[junior pecan]

Go for it

[hollow lava]

The church was used a orphanage, St.John's church, as soon as the plague hit it went on lockdown, so all kids, priests nuns in on place, one day the priest turned into a grunt and Jesse was forced to kill him, slowly day by day people started turning until it was Jesse alone with 100's of corpses, one day a couple of hunters found the church and found Jesse, when they asked for his name and surname he just took the churches name and said "St.John" this is kinda a explaination of what i got so far

Its not the draft just a long tl;dr

[wet sparrow]

Ehhh

Depends on who found him

If the sheriff found his ass he would have been hired

[junior pecan]

^

Or Night of the Hunter

[hollow lava]

I love that, thank you soo much

[junior pecan]

If its regular bounty hunters, they’d either take him to asylum, kill him, or take him to the cabin and then be told to take him to the asylum

But he cant just be out and about, the innoculum is just that. If you’re exposed before immunity, it doesn’t help as far as we know

Actually, scratch that, conflicting reports

[hollow lava]

Uhh where did my messege go?

[junior pecan]

You mightve types something that got bot deleted

[hollow lava]

I just typed out like half a paragraph

[junior pecan]

Like punch-ler

[hollow lava]

I was asking what kind of personality does the sherrif have

[junior pecan]

We dont know

[wet sparrow]

Ehhh

He kills children

Idk

[brittle nest]

What about the Redneck?

[hollow lava]

I have a rough idea

[wet sparrow]

Touché

[junior pecan]

Autoimmune, but again, as i said thats not quite true

[hollow lava]

Anybody know the Armadillo marshal from rdr1?

[wet sparrow]

Might also just be to dumb to get controlled by the sculptor

[wet sparrow]

Yep

[brittle nest]

There seems to be a mental or psychological aspect to being corrupted by the Sculpter

[hollow lava]

Well the sherrif in my fan fic is probs gonna be like him

[brittle nest]

There are a ton of well dressed grunts out there, as well as outright orderlies and doctors, so maybe it's a matter of ignorance or low intelligence, as implied with the Redneck

[wet sparrow]

[hollow lava]

Where does the sherrif like "work at"

Where does he go at like the end of the day

His base ig

[junior pecan]

Some town outside the affected area

[hollow lava]

Does he do the rituals there?

[junior pecan]

Yes, yard in the back

[hollow lava]

Mhm

Does the Sherrif have some kind of posse or does he go alone?

[junior pecan]

Large posse, he presses people into gang service under the justification of imprisonment

[wet sparrow]

Nagant entries mentioned that he has or had a group

[wet sparrow]

^

[junior pecan]

Not many permanent members though

[hollow lava]

Lol

Does he have any weapons

[wet sparrow]

American revolvers

[hollow lava]

No wait

[junior pecan]

There was some legendary weapon of his

Cant recall which

[hollow lava]

Anything like realy said thaz he prefers to use

[wet sparrow]

He seems to dislike anything none American

[junior pecan]

Check the legendary descriptions

And the trials descriptions, he should be mentioned in at least the trials

[hollow lava]

I cant acces my game rn so ill have too check later

Btw whats his full name?

[wet sparrow]

Found it

Lemat Mark 2 Revolver

That’s his preferred weapon

Also called the brass flower

[hollow lava]

Thank you soo much

[hollow lava]

Question, are there any hunters that are known to be superior to others

Like they have an extra sense or the ritual worked diffrently on them

[paper lichen]

There is the Revenant... kinda seems to be brought back from the dead no?

[quick spade]

well then that gets atributed to bone doc no?

[noble scarab]

It’s complicated

He was rezed by someone from the night of the hunter cult, then intercepted/dug up by the bone doc

And as far as strongest hunters go, the real only difference is experience.

[empty owl]

the revenant is more or less a special case

[empty owl]

there are but only in reputation and myths regarding them lorewise like the bone doctor, nadia orville (night acolyte), sheriff hardin, the black coat, etc.

most of the legendary hunters are considered to be "superior" lorewise

not counting the redshirt which is an obvious joke character

although there is samson finch and the McGowan twins that never made any physical appearances in-game but were considered to be among the better of the bunch

and then there's huff

[noble scarab]

huff wasnt a hunter was he? just the head of the aha?

Lynch is probably another powerful individual that may or may not be fully human

[cold idol]

And moses

[empty owl]

moses is actually not a joke character

[empty owl]

huff is not a hunter but wields a poweful position within both the AHA and louisiana in general

i mean, the man has connection to the mayor of new orleans

and he has the power to cover up the whole incident as just some "smallpox epidemic"

[molten forge]

Bone Doctor in the lore is very powerful, also leads a group of hunters.
Reverend, Hardin and Night Seer also each have a steady following.

Revenant is brought back to the dead so we might not be sure to what extend that will keep him alive, Redneck is essentially damn-near immune to the sculptor's influence, the Researcher might not be powerful per se but his studies did prove key to the AHA and he knew the Assassin's true identity on top of that.

Those are the ones that come to mind of the legendary hunters in-game

Then there's the obvious ones, Huff and Finch, the former and current head of the AHA, Lynch who was said to not even be human, the Twins who seem to have an affinity with snakes

[hollow lava]

Could a person get some sort of lets say "spider sense" from the ritual

[jovial basin]

Spiderman is not canon in the hunt universe

[hollow lava]

I know that i mean like could somebody sense monsters, like a 6th sense

Or like tell when somebody is infected or where the plague is traveling

[jovial basin]

I mean, kinda. You can see the boss and, enemy hunters with bounty. In lore i dunno. But wouldnt be super farfetched

[noble scarab]

Not really. They weren’t aware that the one Salter brother was infected while he was at the asylum. Another hunter at the NY infection also couldn’t tell he was talking to a literal grunt for a whole night.

Bosses, clues, and other hunters (with buffed dark sight) sure they can detect them

[icy brook]

I believe so in a sense, I’ve always thought that some of the more eldritch perks like serpent and necromancer come from the serum or ritual somehow

[hollow lava]

So would it be acceptable that the main character has like a bit of a superior sixth sense to other hunters?

[wet sparrow]

Pffhh your story your rules but if you just keep making you character superior it’s gonna end up as a Mary sue

[hollow lava]

Well im not realy making him superior just kinda adding my own twist on that sometimes pre-exposed people react diffrently to the ritual

[icy brook]

I think it checks out, I mean it’s implied that a few hunters or characters in lore have prophetic powers and such

[noble scarab]

There is the Augur which is how hunters do divination

[cold idol]

Huff most likely knew that Salter was infected
And that NY hunter is actually Timothy Stone aka Skinflint, legendary hunter. He was just conversing with some NY hunter crew leader who arrived to talk with Huff. That leader was infected, but because she was a hunter it was really really slowed and also she was dead, but you already know that

[cold idol]

Normal people can have sixth sense, or claim to have one. Sometimes being great at something is just that.

Also, I've noticed a voinich n on "Certain Victory" pax skin

It's the gun Victor Cadwell stole from his father who is Samuel Colt analog

Most likely it's just how this skin is, but could also imply Colt was a hunter

[earnest jungle]

The Base of the American Hunters Assoication is the East Louisiana State Hospital. Known in Universe as the Asylum in Jackson. The Real John Welch Jones and Philip Huff Jones were reformers who greatly improved the conditions of the hospital under their tenures as directors. The fiction Philip Huff Jones was a violent tempered man who was made leader of the AHA after his father Retired for unknown reasons. He and Elwood Finch were running the AHA during the early months of the outbreak in 1894. Based on all available evidence Huff and Finch were using the outbreak as an opportunity to perform experiments. The Journal of James Byrne stated that during a lunch meeting in a fancy restaurant Finch mentioned immortality but did not go into details as Byrne did not take what ever he said seriously. Finch also made vauge allusions to the murder of his wife Elisa for which he was framed.

[earnest jungle]

The Sheriff's personality can be best described as: pragmatic hard ass. Sheriff Hardin is prepared to do everything it takes to fight the outbreak in the Bayou. His first experiment was with deputized convicts of which only Russel Chambers survived maybe. His second experiment was with 200 orphans sent to him on orphan trains. Of which 5 survived, and 4 survived his final selection. Reasoning that the 5th was too dangerous to be left alive. Unlike Hunters Hardin was not cruel for the sake of cruelty. His cruelty was cold and calculating and always proportionate. His personality can be adequately described as "nothin' personal kid" and it's probably the reason why he survived the Louisiana Outbreak.

It's strongly implied that some people have a natural born resistance or even immunity to the influence of the Sculptor's Corruption. Nora Nee Evans was implied to be complete immune to the Sculptor's Influence, William Salter resisted the corruption of the Sculptor for months but that only seemed to delay the inevitable, and the Red Neck was from DeSalle and seems to have also had some kind of natural resistance.

[earnest jungle]

Lynch, the Twins, and Glanton they were rather... infamous during the Summer of 1895. Theft, mutilation, fratricide, cannibalism, nothing was beneath Glanton. And it brought him infamy. Lynch was something else entirely not fully human, speculated to have been a similar kind of entity to the one that was causing the Louisiana outbreak. She was identifiable by her dark wide brimmed hat and her long bleach blond hair and she was notorious for her sadism. It's believed by Hayden Collins (who did not like Huff) that she was the one who had Huff assassinated in the night by FB "Nebraska" Willey (According to the newspapers an assassin hid out on a hill outside the asylum and shot him through a window using a Bornheim Match). Though it's also possible Finch suspected Huff killed his wife and killed him in revenge. The Twins were her enforcers and portages. They were recruited by Lynch who used them to take vengeance upon her enemies but they betrayed her and forced her out of our realm. Jos and Fin were the twin daughters of the black coat who murdered their mother and uncle/adopted father. However after Fin's encounter with the Teche snake spirit (which left her with large patches of snake like skin) Fin came to beleive Lynch could not be trusted and so Fin, Jos, and Jos' girlfriend Allison turned on Lynch... and then everything got worse.

Be aware though if Jesse St. Johns was unusually powerful Hunter that would bring a lot of attention his way... and that's not necessarily a good thing for him.

Isaac Powell would try to recruit him into his demon worshiping doomsday blood cult. Huff and Finch would likely recruit him into their legion of Guinee pigs, Lynch would probably try to use him in some kind of human sacrifice, and Ishim Grid would probably try to burn him at the steak. An idea that just came to mind is perhaps what went wrong with Jesse St James is that the demon used to give him the dark sight wasn't fully broken down. So now there's a demon in his head that only he can hear and see.

You can feel free to steal that concept but I would like to make a request of you if you do.

[hollow lava]

That is a amazing idea thank you soo much

And what request would you like to ask?

Ill do basicly anything you are a real help and a half

[earnest jungle]

I'd like for you to include me and my buddy Woodland as a cameo as a pair of hunters.

I'll ask him what weapons he'd like to have

I'll message you in the morning about it

[hollow lava]

Alrighty

[cold idol]

and Ishim Grid would probably try to burn him at the steak.

mmm steak

https://tenor.com/view/steak-wow-tom-and-jerry-open-dog-cat-gif-17026520

Huff, Lynch and Ishim Grid discovering Jesse St. Johns 1896 colorised

[earnest jungle]

Damn homophones always get me

[cold idol]

It's really not a homophone

haha homophone

That's what I use to call my friends to play hunt

[earnest jungle]

I mean Stake and Steak are homophones because they’re pronounced the same way but spelled differently

[cold idol]

wdym

How do you say steak?

[sudden glacier]

the same way you say stake

[wet sparrow]

But how do you say stake

[sudden glacier]

stāk

steak is also stāk

[cold idol]

Well I feel stupid now

[jovial basin]

I mean, i can see how someone might pronounce them differently due to dialect, but ive also always heard steak and stake as the same (stack is different tho)

[fallow gorge]

William Salter and Red Neck (Charles Salter) are bother, so I'm led to believe it's blood related or run thru the family

[cold idol]

Redneck's name is literally William Moses, they aren't related

Where did you pull Charles Salter from

[empty owl]

redneck's name is william moses

also charlie salter is actually a hunter and he is not an idiot

[fallow gorge]

My apologies, i haven't read the lore in a long time

False info boys, my bad

[cold idol]

Burn the heretic

He's preaching false scripture

[ivory kindle]

does the monolith is just a reference about the sculpture that appeared in various country (California, Romania etc...) ?

Utah,
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/xHMfZAdPy0bgqewmSEu9CuhNxCs=/0x0:1066x1066/920x613/filters:focal(448x448:618x618):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/68456297/monolith.0.jpg

[sudden glacier]

yeah

[stable tundra]

So does the Bob Ross reference zombie have an actual name? I heard someone call him Bob Moss and it's fitting

[tardy sentinel]

is there a list somewhere of all the eastereggs in the game?

[noble scarab]

Not that I know of, and each map has a few different ones

[west sinew]

https://hunt-map.info/

All the information you could want on about the maps

[tardy sentinel]

ooo nice thx

[valid dove]

Any lore already in the game for the new gator guy / his mentor?

Besides the one they posted on steam page

[empty owl]

nope, not a single trace of lore

i think this is a new referenced character

[prime sage]

gator guy ? o0

[jolly bluff]

Ghillie suit confirmed

[solemn brook]

Only mentions treachery and him being greedy.

Mmmm I will assume since he is an alligator hunter originally his main "home" would be newest map

I don't think any of the old ones can have alligators

[hasty raven]

Well, they did, until the corruption began

[noble scarab]

I’d think Stillwater, being more bayou-y and less settled would’ve had more gators

We do have a reference to a Mason Lukas in his gun, Rancor. He lured people into the bayou under the pretense of gator hunting only to kill them instead. But I doubt this is him as this fella seems to be more dedicated to the actual hunting of gators

[hasty raven]

Also I'm willing to bet Mason Lukas is dead anyway. The Rancor pistol is used in some of the promotional screenshots for Llorona's Heir, and her backstory and Mason Lukas's nature would make him a prime candidate for her vengeance

Not to mention, La Llorona was basically a rancor

[noble scarab]

Also true^

[hasty raven]

I agree

[wheat dust]

... possibly a dumb question, but do we know when the first Spider showed up? I know there's dates on the Butcher that place its first appearance in march of 1895, and it seems like the first Assassin sighting, bar Black's possible encounter with the proto-Assassin in 1890, has to be in June of 1895 at the earliest (Black's first sighting of it at least was after Hiram Lott's death in early june), but I've not been able to find much on when the Spider showed up first (same with Scrapbeak admittedly)

[noble scarab]

The spider had to show up in very early 1895, cause it was the first boss right?

theres not any dates mentioned in its lore

[solemn brook]

I didn't think of that... sounds right

[wheat dust]

Was it? I thought Butcher was... but I'm also newer here, I'll give that a look, in lieu of dates it's as good a lead as any. Thanks ^^

[pastel roost]

Why the hell are bosses bosses and not just normal enemies

Why do they stay inside one house in an remote area

[mossy swift]

The compounds are sorta like their nests

I guess?

[pastel roost]

oh ok

Why are they in there

oh

wait there nests yeah

ok

[earnest jungle]

In an old QNA they said something along the lines that the bosses stay inside compounds because they’re hiding.

The bosses are special. If the Grunts and Marked are the foot soldiers of the Sculptor than the Bosses are the Generals.

[noble scarab]

with the bosses i think its like a reverse hunter situation. theyre out roaming the bayou living their best lives, then when hunters enter the bayou, they go hide

[molten forge]

I mean, both the spider and assassin have a very clear role given by the Sculptor iirc

[cold idol]

What if it's for gameplay reasons

No, wait, that would be silly

[hasty raven]

devs give in-universe explanation

And it's fun and interesting to try and explain everything in the context of the universe. Smugly shutting the discussion down is boring and accomplishes nothing

[hasty raven]

Anyway, I heard from someone else that the devs said the Spider's purpose is as a 'builder', and the Assassin's purpose is well known to be a direct response to Hunters disrupting the Sculptor's plan

I think it may have been confirmed that Scrapbeak is meant to be a collector of materials to help build something for the Sculptor? Not sure. But it seems fairly obvious that the Scrapbeak's pretty fixated on collecting a bunch of junk for whatever purpose. Could even be simply that it's trying to take as much resources from Hunters as possible to impede their progress

The Butcher I theorize is for stockpiling meat for the corrupted things to feed, especially the Grunts that'd need to eat a bunch to metamorphose into Hives and Armored and Meatheads (and Immolators?)

My theory for the Spider is that it builds the cocoons for Grunts to metamorphose in. I mean, I don't know how else the cocoons would be created, and the devs confirmed the Spider is a 'builder'. I believe all the webbing stuff in Spider compounds is cocoons under-construction

My Spider's purpose idea connects to the Assassin as well. The reason the Assassin's compounds are always filled with cocoon material is because, after the Spider completes the large cocoon inside a compound, the Assassin moves in to protect it from Hunters. After all, if the bosses roam freely until Hunters arrive and they hide, why would the Assassin hide if it's supposed to be specifically used as an anti-Hunter force?

[plain zenith]

So....in the last trailer, we are diving deeper in the Back to the future easter eagg. Any reason for this?

[hasty raven]

We've got to get back to the future The Kid

Probably. Not me though Idk either

[worn yoke]

So good to see Hunt canon has Doc and Marty being officially participating in the louisiana event lmao

[noble scarab]

Anyone have the source for The Kid supposedly making some kind of deal in order to get his shooting prowess? Probably something to do with the fire that burned his family I’d imagine?

[empty owl]

no source on that one just yet i think.

[empty owl]

it's just a shoutout to the fact that they looked alike nothing more to that

it would be hilarious seeing harold black and some random 19 year old being time travelers though

[cold idol]

Spider's purpose is actually tearing down unworthy creations

[plain zenith]

👍

[wheat dust]

From what I can glean from the lore, Victor Caldwell was with the fourteen and Dr Jones when he "suddenly became agitated, and disappeared," and shortly thereafter he'd posted up and shot the lot of them. Dunno if he saw they were infested somehow, or if he thought he saw something along those lines, if some force got ahold of his head or he did it for his own more twisted up reasons. Disappeared after that, if I'm remembering right he took to hunting other hunters pretty keenly after that, though I'm still trying to find the bit of lore I remember that from to confirm it. The Sparks Sniper lore entry is the source for the rest of the above, tho.

... Right, the Vetterli Bayonet lore entry also kind of implies that he just started opening fire on groups of green hunters for sport. So I'm inclined to think it's just someone with the mindset of a serial killer using the hunt as an excuse for his... let's say hobby.

[earnest jungle]

The custom ammunition lore speculates that Caldwell was apart of the anti-Huff faction of the civil war and that perhaps he was not as green as he let on.

This might also explain the exploding chain pistols he sent Huff. If Caldwell was working against Huff the entire time.

But the question now becomes who was Caldwell truly working for?

[opaque glade]

His shotgun is called Caldwell rival

I feel like that hints at something

[cold idol]

😱

Maybe he has a rival?

[opaque glade]

maybe

[tall spade]

Will the Sculptor ever be a boss?

[rotund ferry]

There is no info in that regard. Personally I doubt it since the repeatability of the game is explained by the sculptor constantly re-creating the monsters and bosses.

[tall spade]

Is there anywhere to read all the lore at once?

I mean, besides unlocking the entire library? I'm currently bugged out so it's not unlocking entries anymore

[rotund ferry]

You can find the majority of the lore in the WIki: https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Lore

[cold idol]

Also we have outdated full Book of Weapons and Book of Monsters

Why outdated?

Because good players aren't interested in lore

[tall spade]

Why does Stillwater Bend have sarcophaguses and other stuff like mausoleums littered around the farm?

[sudden glacier]

what?

[tall spade]

If you go to that farm, and slowly walk between the farm outbuildings, you'll notice it has a ton of cemetery stuff above ground and set aside.

It's a little out of place.

[sudden glacier]

could be a family grave site, not unheard of

[dense harness]

Can someone give me a quick run down of the AHA and the Cult?

[noble scarab]

The AHA is a loose organization that was previously run by Huff Jones before he was killed under strange circumstances. The AHA employs hunters to head into areas where supernatural entities are trying to push into. Currently there are incursions in the Louisiana, New York, and areas in China. Previous events have occurred across the world and in the Cascades. Each event can be different or have different monsters, depending on the entity responsible. Currently the Louisiana Event is the worst one in recoded history and is being orchestrated by a being known as a Sculptor, one of many such entities. This one twists and corrupts and spreads plague in order to corrupt areas. This has resulted in all the enemies we see in game. Grunts transform via cocoons into Hives, Meatheads, Armored, etc. The AHA pays folks to go into the bayou to kill these and other bigger monsters in and effort to slow or stop the corruption.

The Cult is one of the many splinter factions of Hunters. They believe that the invasion signals the apocalypse and that they can save themselves by Hunting and killing monsters then applying their blood to their clothes, flesh, and guns. Their leader is Issac Powell, the Night Seer.

Other factions include: the religious/faithful (does this faction have an official name?) led by Isham Gird. There’s also the Voodooists, the Sinners (which are underrepresented in game), the folks loyal the Sheriff Hardin, the folks loyal to Finch and the “old” AHA. There are also numerous free agents that are unaffiliated and many new hunters that just show up on a train and leave in a coffin the next day.

[dense harness]

Thank you!

[opaque glade]

what is Hardin's goal again?

[polar fable]

To stop the event by any means necessary (which is by using his ex-inmates and also orphans as cannon fodder)

[opaque glade]

Sounds like a great guy

[sudden glacier]

orphans are meant to be canon fodder

[junior pecan]

Source

[sudden glacier]

his bio for one half

[valid dove]

Tbh I dont think Hardin cares much anymore he’s being paid by Huff to send out the orphans, not necessarily cause he cares about stopping the event

He sounded very depressed and gave up on the law

[noble scarab]

Mans had to re-arrest most of his former inmate hunters and by then he was chill with killing orphans that he thought might be dangerous to him later

[icy brook]

Yeah Hardin and Brewer are not good guys lmao

Definitely ends justify the means kind of folk

[opaque glade]

well

We can always rely on Redshirt

He just took a bet for some land

and now he's basically a hunter

speaking of which

any redshirt lore?

[junior pecan]

He was a literal cowboy iirc. Check trials descriptions

[icy brook]

On the outside he’s hootin’, but on the inside he’s hollerin’

[potent merlin]

On the outside he is all yeehaw but on the inside he is yeenaw

[cold idol]

Oh stop it

He wears red shirts for christsake, man has everything good going for him

[sudden glacier]

they can't see the blood on his shirt, but they can't see the tears either

[cold idol]

What a bold style choice, wearing something that is not a shade of grey poop

Which seems like the only available colors in world of hunt

[sudden glacier]

me, who wears super dark blue

[sudden glacier]

Laughs in redneck

[earnest jungle]

https://youtu.be/923xVDMm7xA

I think this song is about the Scrapbeak

[opaque glade]

Who would've guessed

[noble scarab]

part of that is the poem from Death Letter, the Nagant Brawler

[opaque glade]

Yep!

I remember that

You can actually hear that in the new trailer for Harvest too

[cold idol]

How come they release this and not the train to new orleans

[jovial basin]

Maybe 10 dec

[cold idol]

They promised it on december

But why on december

[rotund ferry]

Wait there is lore in this game ?

[sudden glacier]

supposedly

[rotund ferry]

Wow

[sudden glacier]

it has holes in it and it gets almost as ridiculous as warhammer

[rotund ferry]

Well i guess i wont sleep tonight to learn more about that

[earnest jungle]

Check the Pinned Comments

[plush cedar]

can i get a run down on lore shits hard to read thru

[spiral otter]

Impossible. This game doesn't have 10,000 years to add in more ridiculousness

[twilit quiver]

A pregnant woman violently giving birth to a fat demon with leeches in it while being eaten alive and laughing sound very warhammer-esque

[spiral otter]

True

[cold idol]

No it does not

Warhammer is sweaty men fighting each other with bomb lances while riding alligators

[spiral otter]

It's both

There's a lot of ridiculousness in Warhammer

[spiral otter]

Anyway, the lore as I understand it is that there's a being from another dimension causing people in rural Louisiana to turn into zombies, and causing the zombies to mutate into scarier, weirder zombies. The players are bounty hunters trying to stop this in the only way they know how: with guns. And swords. And dynamite.

[cold idol]

Excuse me, I'm a certified warhammer lore expert

Themes of warhammer and hunt: showdown are completly different

[spiral otter]

Thematically, yes, absolutely.

I would argue that both get kind of absurd, though.

Warhammer more so, though.

[cold idol]

Fantasy is absurd on itself

But where does hunt reach warhammer's level of absurdity?

[sudden glacier]

Points at the sculptor's bullshit

[spiral otter]

I would say that Hunt doesn't reach Warhammer's highest levels of absurdity, but some of the Sculptor's stuff is on par with some of Nurgle's stuff.

[earnest jungle]

I don’t think anything could read Warhammer 40k levels of ridiculous though. Seeing as 40k started out as a parody of grim dark settings that lost the thread sometime in the 2000s

[icy brook]

Out of all the mainstream fictional settings I’d count the Hunt lore among the most grounded and plausible lol

[sudden glacier]

hunt is not mainstream

[icy brook]

No that’s why hipsters like it

[opaque glade]

I remember someone insulting someone else for making theories in this channel

weird fellow

[sudden glacier]

he's still here

and he's still insulting

[opaque glade]

Wacky

[devout thunder]

Is there a dollar-hunt silver conversion rate? Is it like 1:1 or worse

[sudden glacier]

there is no rate

[cold idol]

Huntcoin

[earnest jungle]

The Devil is a Pumpkin

[silver kernel]

So the pumpkins make hunters mad so they destroy the pumpkins... to stop the pumpkins, we need to destroy them? Isnt that what the pumpkins want anyway?

[cold idol]

What's what they want you to think

[silver kernel]

So basically we hunters collectively belief that we can stop the pumpkins from possessing us by indulging in being possessed by them? That does proof that hunters are not immune to the supernatural at all

[spiral otter]

I mean, the hunters' solution to there being a zombie plague that corrupts anyone who goes into the area was to go into the area and shoot things. We have an established record of the hunters being this kind of dumb.

[pulsar dirge]

It can't infect you or kill you if you blow its fucking head off and burn it. Gotta admit. It's blunt logic. But it's logical

[spiral otter]

"Oh no! Wasps! Solution: elephant gun."

[lethal tusk]

So i unlocked all the combat axe lore, and turns out that two Girls, twins, named Jose and Fina watched there father being killed by an axe that was crafted in their forge. They then went and got a sledge hammer and a crossbow and killed the man that killed their father. Before ending him they asked his name. He replied "William Durant"...... The legendary hunter The Black Coat is named William Durant......

I know in the bayou death isn't always the end, but perhaps he wears the bandana on his face because he is missing part of his face due to a sledge hammer incident?

[noble scarab]

Our Hunts in game aren't necessarily cannonical. There's not 5 Felis's running around at all times. William Durant was a hunter and then he was killed by his own daughters, for good reason. Plus Bad as They Seem is only an inworld book, written after the Louisiana Event concluded, so some details may be embellished here and there.

Also that was their uncle that he killed, they didn't know who their father was until Lynch told them

[hallow kraken]

No, he’s dead, they burn his body so he can’t be resurrected. He’s just in game because why not

[earnest jungle]

The way the gameplay side of things works is that if something appears in game then at some point it was involved in the Louisiana Incident. Meaning at some point the Black Shirt was involved in fighting the corruption during the Louisiana event.

[lethal tusk]

He was described as their father-uncle, i understand he was not the biological father, but he did raise them from near birth, since the mother died and the story said the father was dead also

So i said father to shorten the story and avoid a long explanation while trying to point out an interesting coincidence. Alas, here we are 😛

[honest minnow]

So anyone got any thoughts on the new song?

That “in that one night the thousand gone” does that mean dead or people who just fled?

[earnest jungle]

Seeing as the song is about death I suspect "in that one night the thousand gone" is about people dying.

The Port Sulphur Band were in DeSalle the night the Corruption took hold, their photograph can be found in the saloon. Three of the five members of the band were lost to the sculptor's hoards and the last two headed down to New Orleans and joined the AHA.

A town as big as DeSalle could easily support at least a thousand or more residents.

Or perhaps if it's about the Scrapbeak it could be that the night he was transformed a thousand people were killed by the Sculptor's corruption.

[noble scarab]

I’d be interested to know the timeline of corruption. Desalle is considered “long corrupted” per the Redneck lore. But we also know it’s further north than both Stillwater and Lawson. We also know that folks were still living in these places and that the plague was thought just that, up until a point I guess. It’d just be interesting to see where it spread from

[earnest jungle]

My theory is that it followed the tracks.

Desalle is Connected to Lawson through the “Lawson-Blanchett Bayou Line” and the Widow Blanchett keeps popping up in the lore. As does the business man Henrik Von Graft who secretly owns many of the businesses in all three maps.

Specially the logging companies and the Port Reeker processing plant.

Perhaps the Widow Blanchett while wandering the Cyprus Groves of Stillwater Bayou found a way to strike back at all of the men who had cheated and robbed her.

[noble scarab]

I’d seen a theory thrown around here that Salter might’ve been the first or among the first infected and that he spread it across the bayou while running around raving mad

But the rail lines would make sense tho, lots of people used them

[honest minnow]

Well with all the various industries around there were fairly clustered population centers. I mean it’s not like you just had Desalle and miles of empty swamp you know?

You had the pork place, mine, mill, fort, the prison was probably a nightmare seeing as how it’s supposed to keep people contained. So theoretically a quick spread would’ve been possible if we factor in that no one knew what the hell was going on.

[shrewd shell]

any idea on the bug in the hunt teaser?

[cold idol]

Which one?

The moth symbol?

[hidden shadow]

40k basically invented grimdark as a setting though

Save like berserk maybe

[sudden glacier]

no, no it didn't

[shrewd shell]

this one

its a dragon fly

might be a hint who the other entity is

[cold idol]

[hidden shadow]

I am right you are wrong

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-christian-bale-dancing-patrick-bateman-gif-16140074

[earnest jungle]

Seeing as 40k was a parody of Grim Dark no it didn’t basically invent the setting because you can’t invent that which you are parodying

[hidden shadow]

hmm well you see actually no i am correct

[earnest jungle]

Only if by invent you mean “unintentionally popularized and became that which it was meant to parody.”

Returning to lore relevant discussions however

[hidden shadow]

Yeah they basically reinvented it

40k has an interesting aesthetic however its done to death now

[earnest jungle]

Returning to lore relevant discussions however

[hidden shadow]

Hunt is a grimdark

change my mind

[earnest jungle]

Returning to lore relevant discussions however the dragonfly has a lot of varying cultural associations. In the American Southwest Dragonflies are a medicine animal. The Pueblo, Hopi, and Zunni associate them with transformation and the Navajo associate them with pure water. They are called “Snake Doctors” because they are believed to follow rattlesnakes into their dens and heal them when injured.

In a lot of European Mythology however dragonflies are far more sinister in nature.

They are called “horse stingers, “ear cutters” and “the devil’s darning needle.”

The last of which is very interesting because darning is a stitching technique used to mend holes

“Snake Doctor” is also a name for dragonflies in the American South East but describes a different belief.

Instead of dragonflies being healers of snakes they are servants of snakes

Catching smaller insects for them to consume.

This folk belief is likely a result of American Settlers combining their own folk beliefs about dragonflies with indigenous beliefs about dragonflies.

Given the sickly yellow-green color of this dragonfly however I suspect this creature is not a servant of the Teche Snake Spirit.

Unless of course the Teche Snake Spirit is not as benevolent as previously assumed.

[shrewd shell]

This is the only time ive seen something in their trailers not in game so might be significant

[cold idol]

It's one of those hive bugs I think

i think it doesn't imply anything

And halloween and new year events are not canon

UNLESS that bug is a secret boss

[lethal tusk]

Plague is carried by dragon-fly and not mosquitos?

[cold idol]

It doesn't look like dragon-fly though

And nobody knows how plague is carried

[random lava]

it doesn't look like a dragon fly?

[cold idol]

Well, it looks like swollen big ass dragon fly

[sudden glacier]

I think you just insulted the animation team lmao

[cold idol]

You know I love you babe

[random lava]

[earnest jungle]

Are we at all close though?

[honest minnow]

So they had an outbreak like this in New York city right?

[earnest jungle]

No

[earnest jungle]

if an outbreak occurred in any major metropolitan area it would be the end of the world as we know it. The Outbreak occurred in upstate New York.

[honest minnow]

Oh.

Wonder why they had more success with the other outbreaks than with this one?

[earnest jungle]

It’s implied that Huff and Finch weren’t actually combating it but instead allowing it to fester for their experiments.

[icy brook]

Perhaps it was simply NY state rather than city

Otherwise a certain police commissioner would have been all over that shit

[lethal tusk]

LA is home of the VooDoo, and the VooDoo be strong

[noble scarab]

I think it was stated somewhere that the NY one featured just grunts as opposed to other forms of the infected, which might've made it easier to control

after a quick reread of the christmas lore, it wasnt mentioned but was implied that the event there was mild compared to the LA one. Though this one is of interest because of the failure of the hunter's innoculation seurm/rital, which was done on purpose by either Lynch or Finch

[unborn cypress]

That in and of itself confuses me. I feel Lynch is portrayed as evil but at the same time wanted to take out Huff due to his corrupt intentions. (Which I remember someone noting is similar to Marshall Brewer’s bio). So is Lynch trying to work with or against the Louisiana Outbreak?

Then again it’s plausible I’m way off. It’s been a hot minute since I’ve read ‘As Bad As They Seem’

[noble scarab]

Lycnh seems to be a wildcard

she may just do things that benefit her

[unborn cypress]

I am curious to see if we ever learn more about her motivations. Given that short story has some of the biggest lore drops, I feel like it doesn’t necessarily give anything away about the story’s other major players

[noble scarab]

she evidently taught them how to do the inoculation ritual, she provides the demon blood for it, she has her own band of hunters/loyalists, but she also had a hand in destabilizing the AHA, and even the other supernatural entities warn others that she can't be trusted

so its kinda all over the place

it also begs the question of how other hunters in different regions like in the Cascades or Asia avoided the corruption

if they had their own serums or rituals or natural immunity, or something else

[unborn cypress]

I wonder if at the end of the day she’s the only one really trying to combat the plague. Though her inhuman properties make me wonder if she served a demon similar but separate to the Sculptor?

Though that’s all unjustified speculation. Only time will tell

[lethal tusk]

She could also be similar to the joker in batman, where there is no real end goal, she just wants to see what happens, or what she can make happen, you know. Just watch the world burn.

[earnest jungle]

ABATS seems to indicate that Lynch was driven by a desire to settle a personal grudge with the sculptor and just about nothing was beneath her if it facilitated the end of personal vengeance.

[unborn cypress]

That’s a good point. But I’d also shove in there that her actions weren’t ‘entirely’ her own. It seemed like every decision she made was predetermined by what her tarot cards laid out for her - with the exception of Huff’s death, I mean.

[lethal tusk]

A woman scorned.

Is she the little girl in the machete lore, that used the tarot cards and then killed all the people on the porch with a machete?

[cold idol]

Yes

[noble scarab]

Given her rivalry with these other paranormal entities, I wonder if she’s got like an Omniman kinda vibe going on. Like “this world isn’t yours to conquer”

[cold idol]

Strange grudge to have

Nooooo its my world to conquer noooooo give it back it's mineeeeeee

[iron mango]

Hey I know all the shit happening in the two hunt game is caused by A guy called the sculptor. And was wondering if there was any art of him and stuff.

[unborn cypress]

Not yet I don’t think.

Not official anyway. I think it’s because the aha isn’t even sure if it is a sculptor. It’s just a theory, a good one but still. And it could be incorporeal

There’s also suggestions it could have possessed or taken the form of a Hunter. So it’s possible it just looks human for now

[iron mango]

Ouh potential lenfendary then?

[iron mango]

Thanks 🙏 it was most helpful full

[plush tusk]

How long y'all think the Revenant was dead for?

[sudden glacier]

I think a day or two at most

[rotund junco]

solomon grundy ass

[opaque glade]

I think he was dead for less than a few months

[rotund junco]

who/what is the canonic resurrecter of our boi

[opaque glade]

I think it was Bone Doctor

[rotund junco]

sounds about right

[opaque glade]

due to the Dark Sight trailer

[sudden glacier]

doesn't it say who?

[opaque glade]

I dunno

[rotund junco]

i forget I think there might be a line in his lore about coming back from the Bone Doctor's chanting or something

also side note since i might get better answers here, Desalle is supposed to still be in Louisana right?

[sudden glacier]

it's still in the bayou

[rotund junco]

right okay

[sudden glacier]

they know it doesn't fit, they wanted variety

[rotund junco]

because the Creator's infection or whatever the hiffle it is localised in Louisana

[sudden glacier]

the sculptor is trying to get out of Louisiana, but the hunters are making it hard

[rotund junco]

right right

well I mean looking it up there is an actual place in Louisana called La Salle

which is kind of mountainous

but not to the same extent that Desalle is

[sudden glacier]

yeah, DeSalle would fit more if it werd a few hundred miles north

[rotund junco]

or if it was more applachianesque

[sudden glacier]

yeah. a few hundred miles north east

[rotund junco]

yeh

[sudden glacier]

probably closer to 7 hundred

[rotund junco]

yeh

would be interesting to see

[sudden glacier]

it would be cool

[rotund junco]

a snowier region would be fun

[sudden glacier]

weather options? lol

[opaque glade]

How many of the NPC types and bosses actually need to eat?

I know the Grunts eats horses and corpses from time to time

so maybe they need to eay

eat

but what about other things?

[sudden glacier]

I doubt immolators or Armored could eat, but hives and meatheads probably could

[lethal tusk]

It might be less that they need or could eat, and more that its just an instinct. The grunts are still self aware, tapped inside their zombie forms. So perhaps that part of their humanity compels them to feed. Also thats why they scream so much when you set them on fire.

[noble scarab]

Given how well grunts and things burn I’m surprised some gilded age capitalist fuck hasn’t tried to use their blood and viscera as a fuel source

[opaque glade]

Maybe they can't bring anything infected like that outside of the... "quarantine zone"

[rotund ferry]

imagine denying your country the diversity and multiculturalism grunts and other infected bring

[steel ravine]

What’s meathead lore like how do they get filled with leeches

[noble scarab]

The leeches are just the larvae from the grunts blood that got souped up on hunter ritual blood

Same thing for water devils basically

[opaque glade]

Who created the Bomb Lance?

[steel ravine]

I believe it was created either by the AHA or the twins but likely made for hunters by the AHA

[drowsy canopy]

I don't think the Bomb Lance's creation was attributed to a specific Hunter. I find that odd, other out of place wonders like the Avtomat actually are given canonical designers such as The Night Haunter being responsible for the design of the Avtomat.

[noble scarab]

If I recall it was a whalers weapons that the aha then modified

Scrapbeak himself supposedly crafted himself one per the Shrike lore

[drowsy canopy]

its an odd tidbit... It actually implies Scrapbeak was human enough for a while to design it before he turned, his transformation was likely very slow, and he may have been passable as human while being a monster for a long time before the mask fused to his face...

[noble scarab]

The assassin also specifically pretended to be a human for a length of time, so it wouldn’t be unheard of

[earnest jungle]

The Lore seems to imply that his corruption by the Sculptor and his transformation into the Scrapbeak were separate events

[plush tusk]

Out of curiosity, what entries does one inquire this from? I've been meaning to get into the lore more.

[earnest jungle]

The first entry seems to indicate that the beak was surgically added after the fact

[drowsy canopy]

Scrappy is actually interesting for his crow iconography, if I remember Bad As They Seem right, crows are tied closely to the Sculptor

all the bosses have animal themes in fact Butcher for Pig, Spider literally a spider, and Assassin Crawling Insects

and something makes me feel if they ever add a new boss it would be snake themed

[earnest jungle]

I think it will actually be dog themed because they have been hinting at werewolves.

[drowsy canopy]

Well I was thinking a snake, primarily since Bad As They Seem (should it be taken at face value) implies a snake entity opposed to the Sculptor, and also one of the twins was turning into a snake monster by the end of it

[rotund ferry]

does anyone know the full lore of what we know about the plague doctor

does he have any real lore significance

[earnest jungle]

Seems his lore is connected to the Scrapbeak

[rotund ferry]

or is he just another unique individual thats been turned mad by the events in the bayou

[earnest jungle]

He had some kind of encounter with the Sculptor while treaty a bubonic plague outbreak and became obsessed with Miasma Theory.

[sudden glacier]

no, not really

[earnest jungle]

His lore plus the vapors of the Light the Shadow Event point towards the Sculptor’s power being based on the old Miasma theory.

[drowsy canopy]

his powers radiate from his creations at the very least... I imagine any uninoculated human that comes into the bayou would become certainly infected just by being around it all

it is psychic in nature that is known... hunters even if they don't become infected go mad quite regularly... and the Redneck is basically immune to it by virtue of hillbilly stupidity and willpower...

[cold idol]

It's important to know that nobody is immune, hunters are just more resistant to it because of the inoculation

There is no doubt that redneck would have turned eventually had he not been initiated

[cedar furnace]

What about Rev?

[opaque glade]

Revenant?

Could be the same

He's already dead in a way

he got voodoo'd back to life

(though he still looks like a corpse)

I think i tmight work the same

[limpid bobcat]

There are also burned bodies pierced by wooden sticks in the heart, that were added on DeSalle. Vampire boss perhaps?

[wet sparrow]

A giant bat would be cool

[lean spade]

We need snake

Big snake and would love and animated coil attack where it suffocates you up to 50 damage or your buddy can interrupt

[limpid bobcat]

Snakes in Hunt will always remind me of Bad as they seem. I still don't quite understand that

[lean spade]

Have zero clue what that is

[limpid bobcat]

This lore about some twins, from book of weapons I think

[deep cedar]

what gives hunters their darksight

and why do they not get infected

[hallow kraken]

Mystical demon juice they inject themselves with called the inoculum

It also makes them sterile

[noble scarab]

And it makes them sterile because of a pair of hunters have a baby then it turns into a meathead

[deep cedar]

lmao

epic prank

[rotund ferry]

is that how meatheads are created

is there any reason why meatheads don’t have a head

[steel ravine]

I think it’s just cause the leeches take them over and use the body as a vector kinda like clickers from tlou

[tall lava]

Meatheads are copies of a baby of a pregnant hunter if I recall

https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/d6qhmp/beginners_guide_to_hunts_lore/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

"Meathead- The Meathead is a creature that has a symbiotic relationship with the leeches that surround it. They act as its eyes and ears that not only alert the Meathead to nearby enemies but can also can poison them. The Meathead’s originally was the baby of Hunters Hannah and Jonathan Kinney before it became the abomination we see now. The reason the AHA did not recruit women for a long time was due to another past incident with a pregnant Hunter. While unborn, the mother was given great power by the baby. Being able to kill swarms of enemies and becoming almost berserk at times. Slowly over time though, the mother begins going crazy. Because the baby feeds off of the ritual blood of it’s mother, when born, it becomes extremely powerful and corrupted, seeking to kill anything around it. In the case of the first pregnant Hunter, the baby killed 12 Hunters before it was eliminated. In Hannah and Jonathan’s case, originally Jonathan was the only Hunter. But he told Hannah all about what he did and they did the initiation right for her as well. Over time they became an extremely powerful Hunter couple, and once Hannah became pregnant she became even stronger. However, she started to become crazy as well, as she came closer to birthing, yet the AHA at the time were unsure of what would happen to the baby. When born, the baby proceeded to eat Hannah as stood there laughing, and grew to be the size of a six or seven year old. It had no head and instead, leeches writhed all around it. Due to this incident, the AHA now gives Hunters a serum during the initiation rite that prevents conception, to both allow women into the ranks and prevent this from happening again."

[steel ravine]

Does anybody know the history behind the bornheim or dolch

[drowsy canopy]

they are largely expies for real world weapons, Bornheim is based on the Bergmann Model 3 and the Dolch on the Mauser C-96 both which entered production in 1896... A year after the official year Hunt takes place in 1895

The Asylum Massacre was an act of sabotage coordinated by Victor Caldwell Designer of the Chain Pistol... He supplied Doctor Phillip Huff Jones leader of the American Hunters and master of the asylum with faulty pistols that blew up when fired. Huff intended to use the weapons to arm the inmates, so of which were effected by the sculptor to use them as hunters. One of them fired the weapon in the armory which caused a change reaction fire and explosion which killed all the asylum inmates...

I believe Victor Caldwell's official motivation for this was that Huff had covered up the death of his son at the hands of a Hunter...

which DLC?

Henry Monroe was one of the touched inmates at the Asylum

he was never meant to be a full hunter, but during the accident that caused the Massacre when the pistol's chain fired setting off the armory he used the chaos to escape

he stabbed a guard with a glass shiv took his Romero and ran...

I believe officially he escaped to Lawson Delta where the events of the DLC trailer happen

some of it is speculative, others are based on the DLC page...

considering the sort of experiments Huff was doing on the Prisoners...

he probably was not happy Monroe escaped...

[valid dove]

I feel like Monroe was actually Dr LeMonnier and escaped the asylum after experiments were done on him

maybe Monroe was a name he took after going crazy

But thats just me being creative with the lore not actually anything grounded other than Dr LeMonnier got transformed in the asylum

[opaque glade]

makes sense if you ask me

Monnier and Monroe are similar

[earnest jungle]

Perhaps Monroe is just his first name

[opaque glade]

MoMo

[opaque glade]

What comes out of the Scrapbeak eggs?

[noble scarab]

potentially mini-scrapbeaks

[sudden glacier]

adorable

[opaque glade]

Why do they even allow hunters to kill each other in the Bayous?

[sudden glacier]

something something infighting

[opaque glade]

I know it's AHA but still

[sudden glacier]

also people want money, you get mors by not letting others get money

[drowsy canopy]

the Bounties on monsters are actually quite high, this naturally drives people into competition... a single boss's bounty (assuming 1 bounty map) is worth about 5K$ real world money plus about 3K$ for the clues and finding lair

[jolly karma]

The events going on in the bayou deadzone are so severe, and the rewards so lucrative (the bounty tokens) that while I like to believe that hunters would avoid killing each other out of professionalism normally, they do not here

[drowsy canopy]

another 3K for the monster kill itself...

so a Duo that goes in the kills a Bounty monster makes 11K in a night not counting for looted cash

[jolly karma]

Plus whatever utility there is in the bounty token

Do we know why the bounty token is so sought after? its uses perhaps?

[noble scarab]

1, it proves the thing is dead, 2 it probably has powers/monster juice that can be extracted

[opaque glade]

Ah

[noble scarab]

i dont think we have any specific examples, but we know that demon blood is used to make the serums, the wellspring keeps people alive longer, so it wouldnt be hard to imagine bounty tokens have a similar use

[jolly karma]

I've been thinking that too, maybe it can be used to make a large amount of serum

[opaque glade]

How do people become cursed souls and why does this wellspring keep them alive?

[jolly karma]

All hunters are cursed

The serum that makes them immune to the Sculptor's influence (and also gives them darksight) slowly corrupts them

After a certain point, they become damned and have to use the wellspring to cleanse themselves

[opaque glade]

So that's quickplay... Wacky

[jolly karma]

I like to think that quickplay takes place immediately after a hunt

[noble scarab]

becoming a hunter may or may not steal your soul/damn you to hell

[opaque glade]

Chad Night Seers

No wait

That's the leader

What was their cult called?

[noble scarab]

Night of the Hunter

[opaque glade]

Okay thanks

[jolly karma]

It has the potential to. I think that every time you use darksight it corrupts you a little

[opaque glade]

Gonna spam it then

Did Johnathan Redshirt become an AHA bounty or does he just waltz in there?

[sudden glacier]

headcanon he just walked into the bayou, killed a boss and left

[opaque glade]

And won that bet

[drowsy canopy]

my idea for Quickplay is that it takes place before Bountyhunt, before the AHA knew what they were dealing with. Everyone getting infected with the plague before everyone was inoculated. Their gear is everywhere, they sent in people completely unprepared to fight the sculptor and his plague, wellsprings became the only wall to salvage some people from the whole mess

also I do hope the Redshirt won his bounty... like he did the bet won, left for his land leaving only the story of the guy with the target on his chest to become legend

legendary hunters are legendary either for their impact or for the fleeting impression they left on their trip through the Bayou

a guy with a target on his back running through the Bayou snatching a bounty and then disappearing without a trace would become a legend even if he only took one trip

[lunar sky]

My idea for Quickplay was that it took place in a separate realm and when a hunter (dies) their soul wakes up and they fight other souls for the wellspring and if they have the wellspring they’ll wake up in the real world. And if a hunter doesn’t then the soul would be brought to hell. Just my take on it

[mint glade]

Where in game can I find more info on what the hell sculptor is? I see it referenced in book of monsters, but no details whatsoever.

[tardy vortex]

Would be cool if there was this discarded target board somewhere near a path leading out of the bayou, wouldn't it? 🙂

[drowsy canopy]

I believe the most info we get about the Sculptor was from the Louisiana Event Scrapbook, where it describes the Sculptor as a Unique monster that can make other monsters, also that's its not quite corporeal. It is also mentioned by name in Bad As They Seem which is the (potentially unreliable) account of the Twins.

[mint glade]

It's that book next to book of monsters and book of guns?

[drowsy canopy]

correct I believe its the last page in that book

[mint glade]

Silly me, I somehow never actually opened that one...

Thanks.

[mint glade]

After reading that book, now I wonder: what's AHA's standing with SCP Foundation?

By which I mean that AHA and game's events kind of remind me of the world of SCP Foundation.

[sudden glacier]

tbe difference being that the Foundation is actually competent, and time travels

[drowsy canopy]

the AHA has made the classic mistake of trying to research in invading interdimensional other things instead of purging them immediately...

however in terms of actually the containing the outbreaks they have done well considering the outbreak does not spread to New Orleans and kickstart the global Zombie Apocalypse 1900 Edition...

[wet sparrow]

The foundation contains and tests the AHA shoots things and hops it helps

[drowsy canopy]

granted a non-corporeal being spreading a plague psychically is not exactly something you can contain with 1900's tech

[sudden glacier]

the foundation would like a word

[drowsy canopy]

foundation has time travellers

they get to cheat a bit like that

[sudden glacier]

the foundation still blends in

[drowsy canopy]

yes but still it confers a massive information advantage, Penicillin won't be invented for 35 more years...

this is perspective that they are trying to fight something they know very little about without the advantage of centuries of knowledge and time travel

[sudden glacier]

kinda weird how the foundation backtravels to stop world ending threats now that I think about it

[drowsy canopy]

its the Terminator Effect

OG Terminator John Connor was aware of the events of the movie since Sarah Connor recorded it all on tapes, the SCP Foundation probably has records

so that they know who when and what to send back in time

[mint glade]

Ahem. SCP stands for Special Containment Procedures with motto of Secure, Contain, Protect.

The foundation doesn't purge.

[steep hollow]

SCP foundation only actively neutralizes subjects if it passes an O5 vote

[drowsy canopy]

correct and the reason the shit has gotten so bad is because Doctor Huff who leads the AHA has decided to study the Sculptor allowing it basically slowly corrupt the whole organization...

[mint glade]

The foundation neutralises objects and subjects only as the final measure.

[steep hollow]

The only SCP actively set for neutralization that I know of (that didn’t perish on its own like a couple that i know of) is 096

[mint glade]

If other methods of containment turn out to be impossible on unreliable.

[sudden glacier]

682 is up there

[mint glade]

Also 682, if they EVER figure out how to neutralise that damned thing.

As such, AHA seems to NOT be at odds with SCP.

[steep hollow]

I mean

It depends

[mint glade]

Assuming they exist in same timeline, I presume AHA would be considered a Group Of Interest by SCP, with perhaps occasional cooperation.

[sudden glacier]

every other instance of the sculptors coming to our world had been purged

[steep hollow]

SCP seems to piss off a lot of the neutral GOI’s they know

[mint glade]

True dat.

[steep hollow]

But I feel like AHA would be like a western SPC to the foundation

So more or less on good terms other than some bad blood

[drowsy canopy]

The Sculptor is incorporeal from the looks of it, or at best its a massive and growing system of roots and microrganisms that is spreading. Traditional containment doesn't seem like an option. Also to be fair the Hunters do try to treat people when they can as seen with the Journal Entries on the hive.

[steep hollow]

And/or barely interacting unless time/space stuff messes up

[drowsy canopy]

Bounties are inoculations for the plague anyway, AHA in terms of actually containing has done well, but it probably made a things a lot worse by attempting to contain something that was messing with their heads.

[mint glade]

Wait. What IS SPC? I tried to look it up and found "Shark Punching Centre", as in SCP themed joke?

[steep hollow]

Okay so

[wet sparrow]

It’s a internet collection of a foundation that contains and protects the world from anomaly’s or other such things

Very intriguing actually

Just look for scp foundation

[mint glade]

Either it's a meta joke going over my head, or you didn't understand my question.

[sudden glacier]

they were making fun of them for misspelling SCP

we know what it is

[wet sparrow]

Bruh I am dumb

Leave me alone man I am sitting in a compound waiting for the banishment to finish

[sudden glacier]

lol

[mint glade]

Actually, I wasn't. There IS SPC sub site on SCP hub.

But it's some kind of meta joke.

[sudden glacier]

[wet sparrow]

HA

I WIN

TEYM WINS

[mint glade]

So I genuinely was asking if that was deliberate or just a misspelling on uwu's part.

[wet sparrow]

@sudden glacier I would like a written apology

[sudden glacier]

no

[wet sparrow]

[mint glade]

Seriously, look at this: https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/spc-hub

[steep hollow]

The SPC, or Shark Punching Center, is an alternate universe version of the foundation that seems to be struggling with some sort of universal destabilization. Thus, their universe dips into the SCP’s base universe in weird ways, like spawning an aquarium equipped with shark punching equipment in the middle of nowhere or convincing a small group of people in Florida to form a group dedicated to punching sharks for whatever reason.

While they definitely started as a joke, it grew a lot bigger to form a much more militant and destructive version of the SCP foundation with, instead of the goal to “protect the veil” their goal is to wipe out sharks or “selachian entities”

I was comparing the AHA to the SPC as they have a similar goal and exist parallel to the foundation (cause obviously the foundation doesn’t exist in the hunt universe)

[mint glade]

Shark Punching Centre.

[wet sparrow]

It’s basically a parody

Atleast thats how I look at it

[drowsy canopy]

a lot of SCP is parody especially when the furries get their hands on it

[sudden glacier]

says the one with a skaven pfp

[drowsy canopy]

There is not such thing as Skaven Man-Thing

but no I just like Skaven

[sudden glacier]

and I am just a regular loyalist marine. never heard of an Omegod before

[steep hollow]

Sorry if I kinda gave an over explanation

[mint glade]

No, it's ok.

You mean AHA would be an alternative universe SCP more focused on eventual eradication of threats than containment.

[wet sparrow]

Yeah basically

Also the AHA does not really hide its existence

[steep hollow]

Probably

[mint glade]

That would put them at quite an odds.

Still, that's an interesting take on their role and potential AHA-SCP relationship.

[steep hollow]

Is the infection a big thing in the Hunt universe? I’m not super caught up on the lore—

[mint glade]

Obviously, all non-canon. I highly doubt Crytek would want to tie in into SCP universe, for obvious IP-related reasons.

[drowsy canopy]

AHA doesn't hide its organization but it hides its true purpose

[wet sparrow]

Apperantly not

[mint glade]

Me neither, but it would seem it's not VERy big.

[drowsy canopy]

to the rest of the world its basically an fancy club

[wet sparrow]

Yeah or a fairytale

[steep hollow]

Oh wow

[mint glade]

After all, what we know of it is "pieced togethe"r afterwards by some researchers, right?

[drowsy canopy]

Yeah the AHA managed to contain a potential zombie Apocalypse to the Bayou and canonically won...

[wet sparrow]

If it was pieced together later wouldn’t that mean that the sculptor was beaten?

[drowsy canopy]

which results in a very restrictive lore framework but an effective one...

[mint glade]

I presume so, yes.

[wet sparrow]

How do you beat something that has godly powers

With guns

[mint glade]

At least THIS instance of sculptor.

Whatever the hell sculptor is.

[drowsy canopy]

they may have just banished it

[steep hollow]

So yeah, SCP would be at odds with them, but only by the fact they let people know the AHA exists. Where as SCP would be trying to keep it under wraps.

[drowsy canopy]

it could be the researchers are looking through all the files since it came back

[mint glade]

Yeah.

[wet sparrow]

Que sculptor number 2 in Hunt showdown 2021

[mint glade]

What if tokens we bring back are needed for eventual banishment?

[wet sparrow]

I can only imagine the scp foundation test out the bosses

[mint glade]

You know, some mega ritual to finally rid world of this thing?

[wet sparrow]

Yeah but that goes back to the question who we give the bounty

Only person who would be able to do something like that is probably the doctor

[mint glade]

Alternatively, SCP could let AHA exist as kind of semi-known militant arm.

[wet sparrow]

Or a completely new person

[drowsy canopy]

Or Lynch

[steep hollow]

It wouldn’t take too much testing to figure them out and ethics department would shut it down if too many d-class were dying unnecessarily

[mint glade]

For when you need to tap into pool of dedicated non-clandestine fighters.

[steep hollow]

That would make sense

[wet sparrow]

I doubt that they would even have a ethics department at that point of it’s lifespan

[steep hollow]

Like their relationship with Wilson’s Wildlife Solutions

[wet sparrow]

I mean i like the idea

All of us players have been gathering bounties to banish the sculptor with its own I guess magic

[steep hollow]

That is definitely a good point, although almost nothing is know about the founding of the foundation, and they did exist prior to the 1900s since some SCPs were discovered by their almost full form at that point

[mint glade]

Just looked it up, yeah, pretty much. Just a bit more violent.

[wet sparrow]

Imagine 096 in the bayou

[mint glade]

Do we even know WHEN was Ethics Committee founded?

[mint glade]

Oh, god, please no.

[wet sparrow]

Somewhere before they investigated the scarlet king considering that they mention that the Ethics Committee only recently opened up

Which would be around 2012

[steep hollow]

Hot damn

I didn’t even know that

But I’m like, super baby when it comes to SCP lore—

[wet sparrow]

Here is a theory

The plague doctor is the scp and he became a scp through the sculptor

It all makes sense now

[steep hollow]

096 is the roaming boss everyone’s been asking for, it all makes sense

[wet sparrow]

We figured it out

[steep hollow]

173 is the statue so it was obviously also made by the sculptor

[wet sparrow]

Anyway have a Gn guys gonna go for now

[steep hollow]

Bye bye

[mint glade]

Cya.

[torn schooner]

so do we have any clue about any other monsters in the hunt universe

[drowsy canopy]

there was been miscellaneous implications of other types of monster, I don't think they directly identified any one though just that the AHA has been around in one form or another for a long time, and it ain't just in America

[knotty leaf]

What’s AHA

[sudden glacier]

American Hunter's Association

[knotty leaf]

Damn

[sudden glacier]

alternatively a Norwegian synth pop band

[knotty leaf]

I looked at one of the ammo boxes and it spells out aha

In another language of course

[sudden glacier]

the uwu crate?

[knotty leaf]

Yea

[sudden glacier]

[knotty leaf]

Yep

Scuffed screenshot

[median tulip]

guys can you recommend me nice yt videos of hunt lore. ive seen a few but some just seem to contradict or seem like facts are just made up. anyone got something thats close to what is actually found ingame as info etc ?

[mint glade]

What kind of script is that?

It definitely is not Latin alphabet, nor Cyrillic. Some letters remind me of Arabic script, but I don't think it's that. It's definitely not Devanagari (Hindu, Sanskrit) either. Is it made up for the game?

[knotty leaf]

I think its called Voynich or something

might be made up

[opaque glade]

Didn't someone name Roger Bacon write something in Voynichese?

[mint glade]

Ah, Voynich. So made up, just not for the game. It predates game by centuries.

[mint glade]

He's one of suspected authors.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript

[opaque glade]

Just doubled checked

apparently it might been debunked

[mint glade]

Book of monsters mentions voynich manuscript, so it makes sense script itself would appear in game. Or rather one possible take on transcribing the script.

[opaque glade]

If one person were to be hunter and then had a child with a partner after getting the serum or whatevr injected

would that child be corrupted too

because the serum corrupts the hunter

would that be like a trait passed on?

[bold tiger]

Pretty sure the voynich in game is pretty much just so they don't say necronomicon like every other cursed book

[bold tiger]

Probably not, a few interpretations tho

1. The serum made male hunters sterile already, they just needed to change it to make female hunters sterile as well.

2. The evil baby is caused by direct prolonged contact with the hunter who had the serum I.E. being pregnant.

3. It is permanently November for hunters.

3 is actually disproven because the woman was a hunting partner with her husband

And 1 is as well of course

[opaque glade]

So if the husband was the only hunter of that family

would that save the kid

since the husband can just run off and die a hero's death in the bayou

or would the corruption corrupt the wife

and then that can go ahead and corrupt the child

[bold tiger]

It could be something like dudes cause miscarriages normally but if a hunter man and a hunter woman love each other very much it creates a big evil meat baby

[opaque glade]

yikes

[bold tiger]

This is mostly speculation tho

[opaque glade]

I kinda wanna know what you mean by tgat

"big evil meat baby"

[bold tiger]

Let me say what we do and don't know

[opaque glade]

okay

[bold tiger]

Meathead

[opaque glade]

Here's a theory of mine

since I don't know how it fully works (yet)

if the baby can survive and be born

maybe it could be immune to being corrupted or the serum itself

or maybe even the infection

so it can be the perfect hunter

[bold tiger]

F hunter and M hunter pairing: Creates demon baby, how the meathead got made.

M hunter and F normal: Nothing specifically I can remember mentions it.

M normal and F hunter: Whether or not the first hunter who had a demon baby did it with another hunter is unknown, and going so far as to make all women who become hunters sterile seems extreme if it requires 2 hunters to make a demon baby.

Does anyone know if a hunter mentions that their father was also a hunter? This could mean that male hunters can reproduce normally but that depends on whether or not the father had the child before or after he became a hunter.

[drowsy canopy]

I highly doubt the every meat head is the result of hunter demon babies there is far too many of them especially since the new inoculation is also a contraceptive... I think the Sculptor follows a law of forms of sorts, and makes Meathead out of any suitable candidates whoever they may be... I think it probably has something to do with the leeches themselves... I like to imagine they burrow into a suitable host and nest inside them popping off the head as they grow within until the bloated corpse eventually rises as a meathead a giant leech hivemind stocked in a bloated corpse... I think the Sculptor makes meatheads specifically because it knows the history and the fate of the Kinneys (The couple who birthed the meathead baby)... Its psychological warfare at its finest...

[steel ravine]

What’s the origin of immolators

[noble scarab]

righteous rage and piety mixed with a bit of sculptor corruption

basically priests that are a bit too hellfire-y/brimestone when touched by the sculptor go boom

though most immolators are copies of a small handfull of original priests

[bold tiger]

Just the first yeah, I think somewhere in lore it says it "copies" a thing it likes basically creates them from insect cocoons you see around?

[potent gorge]

Do we have any idea what is causing the weird and messed up stuff in the Bayou?

Is it actually the devil, or some weird invasive infection from another universe, or what?

Also, is the quick play scenario something that happens in universe?

[cold idol]

Infection is from some dimensional horror and quickplay is literally hell

[lethal tusk]

Quickplay is a place where all the hunters youve lost go to fight it out for one last chance of "Survival"

[rotund ferry]

Essentially just survivors of a hunt left for dead in the bayou clawing their way out

[glad verge]

what does it say in the silver wormseed shot, Halloween?

[sudden glacier]

that isn't even close to the right url lmao

[noble scarab]

Quick play isn’t so much a literal hell, it’s just hunters thatre close to dead/full corruption using the wellspring to keep themselves from dying

[bold tiger]

Sculptor, a "demon" some sort of extradimensonal canker sore basically.

[lyric arrow]

I'm pretty sure it's refering to scrapbeak, who could be either Mr Avis Wyndham junior or senior

The Scrapbeak mastery gives revolves around the conversation of an attorney and the defendant Mr Avis Wyndham junior.

In the masteries scrapbeak is described as both a bird and death itself which correlates to the scribbling "Death is no man, death is a bird" from the weapon skin.
Mr Wyndham jr. is on trial for supposedly murdering 25 people, among them his father Wyndham sr. who lost 1 arm and Both legs in the war and following the war, and had a habit of extensively hoarding broken things.

So one thing could be Wyndham senior is not dead - but was "healed" and transformed into scrapbeak (mechanic legs, excessive hoarding and the mastery talks about the beak being "melded" to the bone with signs of very rapid healing) and the Hunter who owns the weapon skin could be either of the Wyndhams, either the senior before being supposedly transformed or the junior becoming a hunter after his father was supposedly transformed.

It could also be neither of the two but then i don't think we have any info regarding who it belongs to

[jovial basin]

hmmm, i would have guessed the vagrant is one of scrappies premutation weapons. The hoarding of scrap was done to fix things, thats what i saw in that weapon.
Might be something like a timeline tho, the more corrupted wyndham became the more obsessed he became with death and birds, changing his weapons to more lethal ones, till he became what he is now. so when he was relatively sound vagrant, in onset stages of corruption the death letter.

[drowsy canopy]

We have very little info on what Wyndham Sr (Scrapbeak) got up to between the Civil War and his transformation. The game takes place in 1895 and at the time the Nagant Revolver is basically brand new and Wyndham Sr. would be over 50 at the time. Either his transformation to Scrapbeak occurred a very short time after he finished this Nagant or this belongs to another hunter. Scrapbeak was likened to the Grim Reaper (Death) by hunters when they found him. I find it very likely this revolver was made by a Hunter who had an unfortunate encounter with Scrapbeak

[lethal tusk]

Along the lines of scrapbeak, i keep listening to the new song thats out, and its talks alot about how death is a bird. Also it starts out describing a man wrapped in cloth holding a moth. Asking the singer to take him home. Perhaps, Wyndham SR at some time late in life became infected and having the inventors background started to collect things, but due to the infection was a bit off, so he became a Hobo, who also road the rails. Carrying the infection to each town until the night he spread his wings over a town where 10,000 were lost in a single night. Just some Head canon i was tossing around.

[bold tiger]

Def senior

[bold tiger]

Doesn't the shrike mention the scrapbeak made it AFTER (how does one bold on discord) his transformation into the beaky boi?

Collection of useless shit certainly could include Nagant 1895s, because in the game it might be the only DA revolver but even back then there were more and better.

[wet sparrow]

I feel like the song is coming from the perspective of death

With lines like that they will take them home

In the Night you pray in the Night I fly

Ten thousand died (probably through the first time the sculptor attacked) and I walked with them

And of course be still my dear you will soon be at her side

Sounds like the singer or the entity that keeps referring to itself as I is death

And death itself is a bird which is why they say that I fly

And of course the most appearnt line we think of death unholy end but I will take you home again

Probably meaning that death is just us returning back to our original home

Atleast that’s how I understood it

I don’t see how this is related to good old scrappy

[mint oasis]

It’s not that deep

[opaque glade]

Eh, who knows how deep Hunt is

[steel ravine]

Does anybody know deeper lore on the spider

[icy brook]

Panshot confirmed

[thorny meadow]

I read somewhere about a blood ritual that give hunters access to another veil of reality called darksight. Can anyone elaborate on this ritual and what happens exactly?

[steel ravine]

I think it’s just like a blood pact but they use some demon blood you can learn some more in the Caldwell pax claws entries

[sudden glacier]

from memory you straight up inject demon blood

[molten forge]

I'm pretty sure that not all hunters use the same method for this though

Such as Doctor John and his group, or some of the Native American hunters

[earnest jungle]

The new Serum was developed by Lynch in the winter of 84.

[reef dune]

What is the Caldwell Conversion supposed to be chambered in? If it's an accurate 1851 conversion of a Colt Navy it should be .38 Short Centerfire, but I just wanted to be sure.

[earnest jungle]

44 Henry

It’s a Colt Open Top Revolver

[reef dune]

Yeah you're def right, I hadn't even considered that those were rim cartridges

[bold tiger]

One hunter describes another make the serum out of herbs, though might not be reliable

[molten forge]

I mean it would make sense, considering some of the Natives fought an entity like the Sculptor before, and Dr. John is an accomplished and powerful practictioner of voodoo

[bold tiger]

It might also give different types of immunity

[molten forge]

Seeing how the serum seems to artificially give you a way to perform magic

As seen with Necromancer

[bold tiger]

I think its in the romero journals by the way

[molten forge]

So I'm pretty sure that inoculum is just an artificial gateway to becoming attuned to being able to perform voodoo

Whereas others might either
A) Be born with this connection
B) Have alternative practices/medicine achieving the same

[bold tiger]

Voodoo ain't shit though from other lore

[molten forge]

I mean if the Dark Sight trailer is anything to go by

As well as some of the lore

It's powerful enough

[bold tiger]

Cause worldly religions have nothing to do with stopping the extradimensional fuckery, more that a specific thing that anyone could do practicing or not is what helps

[molten forge]

It seems Dr. John can resurrect the dead, a feat that normally hunter with enhanced darksight can perform

[bold tiger]

Because in any case it is always the consumption/injection of a substance that helps

And I believe there was a lore thing about "medicinal inhalers"

Hunters can perform kt without darksigjt

[molten forge]

Voodoo isn't as much a religion as it is a practice btw

[bold tiger]

Necromancer just lets one do it at a range

[molten forge]

Downed =/= dead

Enhanced darksight allows you to sacrifice some of your own health to revive a dead ally

[bold tiger]

Gameplay isn't lore either

A downed hunter need not be dead

After all they are still breathing

[molten forge]

Not when redskulled

[bold tiger]

True, which requires the bounty

Which judging by the lady who was half immunized by another hunters blood or something

[molten forge]

We're working with a lot of "if"s and uncertainties due to the dripfeeding of lore.

[bold tiger]

Could just be a side effect of extradimensional exposure.

Its strange too

[molten forge]

One could argue that the practice of voodoo is making contact with the other side

[bold tiger]

Vitality shots and the hunter serum might be interchangeable

In the lore

[molten forge]

Vitality shots have their own lore

[cold idol]

Don't talk shit about voodoo

[bold tiger]

Judging by the fact this results in instant death I doubt it

We have people just getting zapped or turned into zombies with just a little bit of exposure

[molten forge]

That solely depends on how they make contact

We have seen people resist the sculptor's influence without inoculum

[bold tiger]

"The other side" also implies some sort of relation to world of hunt rather than being entirely disconnected

[molten forge]

Either through stubborness, stupidity, or perhaps even sheer force of will

[bold tiger]

In what ways

[molten forge]

Redneck's lore

[bold tiger]

Direct exposure I mena

He had gun

[molten forge]

A gun does not stop the sculptor's influence

[bold tiger]

And walls, also hive might not have been around then to wallbang him to death

[molten forge]

Hunters can only be in an exposed area for a certain amount of time before their resistance fails them

[bold tiger]

Not necessarily true beyond a handwave for the game

[molten forge]

It was part of the lore iirc

[bold tiger]

We have several hunters stay way longer than an hour inside

[molten forge]

I also didn't say an hour specifically

[bold tiger]

Only direct exposure or in the case of the christmas lady beinf dead inside the area can gruntify you

[molten forge]

This is incorrect

[bold tiger]

How so

The hunter trainee gets fucked up by getting grunt blood on him in the vetterli lore I think

[molten forge]

The sculptor's influence is something that corrupts, from what I've pieced together it's not something physical but rather something closer to temptation or manipulation

Give in and you're getting corrupted.

The Inoculum might only drown out these influences for a while

And as it wears off, that temptation might grow more and more, which is why some hunters can survive longer than others

[bold tiger]

I would need to know what you are basing this on lore wise

[molten forge]

Cain's Lore, Redneck's Lore

[bold tiger]

But in any case a hunters blood can give another person immunity

[molten forge]

And iirc Salter?

Like I think Salter's entries had something about voices

Might've been another one though

[bold tiger]

Salter isn't corrupted by the sculptor, hes got schizophrenia or something

[cold idol]

No, he was infected

His infection progressed slow though

[bold tiger]

Or hes traumatized, forgot the whole lore

The guy dies to a lady who can 1 shot a meathead with a sledgehammer

[cold idol]

Yes

[molten forge]

In Redneck's lore specifically talks about the "Sculptor's influence" being the factor though

[bold tiger]

So shes like 13 feet tall and 750 pounds in my book

[cold idol]

Before that he runs around infecting and killing people

[bold tiger]

Sculptors influence could mean the influence of the sculptor on the area he was in

I.E. our friendly AI cast

[cold idol]

In my headcanon Twins look like JoJo characters

[molten forge]

I think influence in this case is more close to temptation

[bold tiger]

Like fist of the north star characters

[molten forge]

Because they say he resisted it out of either stubbornness or stupidity

I don't think that'd be the case with something physical

[bold tiger]

I mean deciding to fight the undead instead of leaving is both stubborn and stupid

[molten forge]

Resisting through stubbornness or stupidity

[bold tiger]

Gnight in any case

[mint glade]

Is that a lore explanation why contracts last only an hour?

Is there any explanation why we have to leave within 5 minutes of last bounty being carried off map? I mean, I know the game-mechanical explanation, but what's the lore explanation?

Sculptor noticed that his creations are gone and is going to show up in person to sculpt some new ones, and we definitely DON'T want to meet him or something?

[molten forge]

The 1 hour is just a gameplay mechanic. However lore-wise the Inoculum does not give complete immunity. So that would likely be the reason why they can only stay for a short time

[upbeat kiln]

Hey all you beautiful brainiacs. I have a question:

How many established factions exists within Louisiana?

We got the AHA, the Night of the Hunter, and the Voodoo Community - if we don't take law enforcement into consideration. Are there any other well-known factions?

[cold idol]

Well, there are these hunter factions:
-Reverend's men
-Doctor John's men
-Trevor's men
-Night of the Hunter's men
-Huff's men(?)

And a lot of individual actors with no affiliation to any faction.

[thorny meadow]

I saw somewhere in the lore that by 1896 or 97 the infection had spread all the way up to New York. Is this true or an exaggeration?

[upbeat kiln]

Thank you ❤️

[polar warren]

"Accounts Received" story revolves around New York lodge of hunters being given incomplete protection ritual. Resulting in one of them becoming sentient high-functioning grunt.

[polar warren]

In Armored lore, Harold Black specifies that "it's a sure death to spend more than an hour in the hunting grounds", so it's not purely game mechanics. However, he does not elaborate on reasons.

[cold idol]

It doesn't state that New York hunters are given incomplete ritual, it says that the woman Timothy left for dead after watching her die turned into grunt instead of dying.

[polar warren]

We spoke of New York, and how Nora's Hunters were handling the threat there. It was modest compared to the situation in Louisiana – but how long would it remain under control? (...)
"My group was not privy to some very important information. We were given instructions about the inoculation ritual, but they were incorrect. They were intended to leave us vulnerable, and destroy us."

https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Accounts_Received_the_Adventures_of_Timothy_Stone_Part_4

[cold idol]

[noble scarab]

potentially the hunting grounds are more dangerous/corrupted when bosses are present, resulting in the hour limit. We have other cases of hunters existing within corrupted areas for extended periods of time just fine. so maybe the presence of the bosses causes an environmental effect or something making it deadly to remain for too long.

[weak turtle]

this guy consistently dinging a target at 594m (650 yards) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLZcmLAMGcU
with a Sharps (sparks)

aperture sparks will probably never be in the game but this does show how nice they can be in real life

I would have trouble hitting that with irons on a 303

at least that consistently

[cold idol]

One guy fought assassin for the whole night

[noble scarab]

There was that, plus I think he was kinda just living there after the fight. there’s been cases of people passing out in the grounds, like it in the bow lore, Hardins kid hunters spent most of a day and night there, and they weren’t inoculated or trained. Salter lived there as the place was becoming corrupted, etc

[opaque glade]

I like the fact that they tried to make the music fit within the lore so the music department called themselves Port Sulphur Band in the music

I say tried, they never failed so...

[frozen ridge]

when you think about it, its kinda wild that hunters choose to kill eachother

[noble scarab]

if we assume that a hunt dollar to US dollar ratio is 1:1 each bounty is worth (in todays money) several thousand dollars

1$ = about 32$

[earnest jungle]

And people in the real world kill for less

Contract killings can range from a couple hundred to a couple thousand dollars.

[frozen ridge]

Tangentially related but i wonder how many canon members the AHA have

And by that logic. I wonder how much canon huntercide takes place

Due to technical and balance concerns- were not taking more than 3 players. But in canon i have to imagine theres probably larger hunting parties

[noble scarab]

Surprisingly, 3 is the canon limit. Originally it was 2, then some folks just showed up and hunted in 3s, which pissed people off, but evidently these guys got cursed or something. After them tho, it was just fine for 3s to hunt together.

Mainly its made out to be a tradition/convenience thing. Only having to trust so many, or having someone to watch your back.

We do have evidence of higher numbers going into the hunting grounds on occasion, such as the Sheriffs child "hunters" and then the countless raiding parties that seem to be the Night of the Hunter Cult, and the Rev's church folks going in to burn/do crazy holy people shit

It seems like theres times or places that are more dangerous than others, prompting the hour time window, or the rule that only 3 folks can hunt together

there may be a more supernatural difference between a hunt and a "Hunt". Maybe when the bosses are active then a captial H Hunt occurs, but other times folks can come and go more or less as they wish, only dealing with the usual grunts and corruption

[plush tusk]

Very interesting! Where'd you find these details? I'd love to read more into it.

[noble scarab]

Its all from either the book of weapons, the monster entries, and the confessions of sheriff hardin. I want to say that the stuff about the trios is in the Springfield lore, but I'm not sure.

[frozen ridge]

Its a little annoying everything isnso scattered

[noble scarab]

the hour time limit comes from the Armored entry

We had a document here in the chat somewhere that put it all together, but its a bit out of date now

[sudden glacier]

quite so

[frozen ridge]

O lore master. Why do the clues get angry with competing hunters nearby

[noble scarab]

Official answer is we don't know. Theory answer is that because hunters put off an aura/are just straight supernatural, something inside the clue, probably the proximity to "Sculptor Land^TM", reacts when two non-allied hunters are close by

Might be like a magnet of sorts where when you try to stick two of the opposite ends together, shit aint happy

[frozen ridge]

The bosses seem a lot more deadly in lore than they are in game. Hmn

[noble scarab]

yea thats the case

[earnest jungle]

No that’s how many people can go hunting at a time in a group not how many members of the organization total

[noble scarab]

shit you right, im dyslexic with words sometimes

[hallow kraken]

There actually is a reason I’m pretty sure, but it’s confusing as crap. Hunters are seen in dark sight as red glowy thingies, or what they see from the sculptor’s dimension. When hunters go near rifts, I think it was like that red glowy stuff shows without dark sight, because there are more than one hunter around. There are many holes with this, because hunt logic

[polar fable]

I’m not entirely sure but I think I read an old post from their site describing clues and there was a sentence about why they change color - something like clues are portals and when two enemy hunters are nearby the clue “feels” that some bloodshed is going to happen and changes its color accordingly

That’s what I’m referring to

Here’s a link to the full post https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/dark-awaits

[hallow kraken]

Isn’t that old lore? Is it still canon

[cedar furnace]

To be fair, if the butcher hit a normal person they would die

Hunters are built different

[hallow kraken]

They’re jacked up on demon slushie juice

[frozen ridge]

are they actually?

[hallow kraken]

Yeah

[cedar furnace]

Yes

[hallow kraken]

It’s how they use dark sight and stuff

[cedar furnace]

To be fair the inoculated also causes problems

[hallow kraken]

And don’t turn

[frozen ridge]

so like the lore implication is they drink mad protein drinks from the sculptor and thats probably why they can survive bullets to the chest

[cedar furnace]

It’s made a few monsters

Like Water Devils

[frozen ridge]

do they ever talk about what the ritual is?

its side effects?

or is it literally a slushie of hellhound guts

[cedar furnace]

Being Sterile is one

[hallow kraken]

It can literally just make you vomit then die

[cedar furnace]

That shot kills your ability to have kids

[frozen ridge]

is it a shot?

[hallow kraken]

It used to not do that, but after the meat head thing they made it do that

[cedar furnace]

Thank god lol

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