lore-discussion

[rotund ferry]

I have a question: if now I make prestige, the money from the event will disappear?

[nocturne wharf]

Wrong place for this question. But if the event ended and you got the money from the extra points gathered, then yes. Otherwise no

[amber plank]

Anyone know what the lore behind the “Bullets Lullaby” song from the scrapbeak event?

[narrow halo]

As for all those songs

No idea

It's probably about scrapbeak

How everybody didn't love him after he came back from the war

And now he's evil

[icy brook]

Pour one out for our disabled civil war vets

[hasty raven]

I'm back

[hasty raven]

I managed to get a screenshot of the message you get when purchasing something with blood bonds

'Roberts & Sons General Store'

Apparently this store sells people and unique weapons they stole

[noble scarab]

Is that the same one that’s in Desalle? I know there’s a general store there but I can’t recall the name

[real hinge]

Would love some feedback on my latest two lore videos on YouTube. One on the Sculptor and one on Ishim Gird.

I have a YouTube channel where I make a lot of lore content. Channel name is same as discord name.

[hasty raven]

Can you link it or is that against the rules?

[dry pumice]

Watched all your videos some time back, my favourite person to watch lore videos from, gonna play the new ones in a bit

[real hinge]

Against the rules, I linked it and it got removed and I got told off 😂 but if you search for a channel on YouTube called matterpiller you should find me - or I can message you directly.

[real hinge]

Appreciate that!! Love hearing when someone enjoys my content and always appreciate the support!!

[rotund ferry]

Bruh

[rotund ferry]

Has anyone noticed the poker game in pearl plantation? It might not be where it happened but.. I feel like that's where Revenant got shot lmao.

[hasty raven]

It is, it's even in the Dark Sight trailer

[tired spear]

hey y'all
is weapon firing mechanisms considered as lore?

i remember thoroughly a dev stream where they showed the avtomat's firing mechanism in slow motion and i cannot find that video anywhere. Does anyone have it?

asking because the avto is the only gun in Hunt with no real-life counterpart, and I would love to gather information on it

[sudden glacier]

the avtomat isn't possible

[lyric arrow]

technically there are a few that don't have a real counterpart

all the conversions including the uppercut for example

[tired spear]

technically the uppercut would be a conversion of the Walker Colt, wouldn't it?

because it uses bullets instead of black powder so it must have been adapted

although i agree that that no conversion has a real-life counterpart, and the LeMat isn't accurate either

[sudden glacier]

LeMat is too chunky

[tired spear]

It's also not a break action revolver lol

do not shit on the lemat it's my favourite gun

still looking for the video btw. i've scoured all the past dev streams and still can't find it...

[cinder whale]

I figured the whole point of the "conversion" series is that it doesn't come like that. It's not a mass production thing, it's made in a gunsmith's shop. Parts are changed out and custom made to its purpose. That's the fluff of it. The Avtomat is based more on the Huot rifle that was produced during WWI, as the silhouette of the firing mechanism can clearly be compared.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UI0XvrIfl0
You can figure that working the bolt of a regular mosin at machine gun speeds isn't exactly feasible, so the idea is that the bolt would have been reworked as part of the mod as well.

[tired spear]

Yeah they did show the bolt being reworked

I finally found what i was looking for btw. Just need to cut the correct part and i'll show ya

[lyric arrow]

sry 4 late replay.

No not really - Colt walker conversions were usually in 45LC so pax caliber aka medium ammo

The metallurgy is simply not good enough to accomodate 6 rifle rounds in a cylinder that's only a bit longer - it would explode in your face

[tired spear]

damn, the chambers are really long for .45LC, i assumed it was based off of that for that reason

[lyric arrow]

Not even today it is, there are very big revolvers chambered for 45-70 Gov, but those even today are significantly larger (more than twice the weight of a lighter revolver) only have 5 chambers so the cylinder is strong enough to withstand operating preassure and most significant they are a full frame construction not an open top like the Uppercut.

In short no such thing as an uppercut IRL, because metal not stronk enough

[tired spear]

sounds fair x)

Here's the avto bolt mechanism btw

@sudden glacier see they've adapted it to make it somewhat believable

that tiny thing looks like it's not very solid though

[oak nymph]

Avto DOES have a real life counterpart in the Huit rifle, it was just a conversion of a different gun. It’s the mosin in game as the other gun isn’t in the game.

Oh, someone beat me to it. Ignore me.

[tired spear]

since it's inspired only i wouldn't really call it a "real-life counterpart", seeing as there are no auto mosins mods.

That said, it's true it's just like the Huot

[icy brook]

Yeah the uppercut would likely explode with a 45-70 cartridge loaded in it, but maybe they only run super light loads through it in the hunt universe

The avtomat is also possible yet not plausible, at least on a large scale

[empty owl]

how they managed to bypass the bolt action mechanic is kind of beyond me tbh

[halcyon osprey]

the Huot gun was a conversion of a straight bolt rifle. The Mosin is a turn bolt which would make it a lot harder to convert and probably not worth it but I'm sure its possible if someone wanted to make it happen. They addressed it in a really interesting way that you can see in the video. I don't know too much about the mechanisms of guns so don't take my word for anything

The huot gun was decently successful but the Avto would most likely be too complicated and expensive to produce too many of them

[cerulean spruce]

this game has lore!!!??

[narrow halo]

No, no it doesn't.

[jovial basin]

hunt lore: WHAT THE FUCK? WHAT IS HAPPENING? WHY ARE THERE BEES IN MY SOUP
AHA: get the guns, we gonna crush some bugs
Scrapbeak: BIRB!!!

[trail turtle]

[late vortex]

No, this channel is a troll

How does lore explain dark sight btw?

[narrow halo]

@late vortex Hunters drink devil bath water and it gives them superpowers

[late vortex]

Yummy

[narrow halo]

It also gives them magical std

Most belive it also damns them to hell

[hasty raven]

Scrapbeak: BIRBS*

[bold tiger]

So does anyone have the new book of weapons lore? Throwing axes don't have a mastery from the menus it looks

[hasty raven]

I only have the first bow entry

since it doesn't stack exp for the next level unless you claim the first, which you couldn't during the event

[noble scarab]

There’s an entry for the bow?

[hasty raven]

yeah, two

[noble scarab]

I swear I just looked yesterday under that section and didn’t see one

🤷‍♂️

[quasi eagle]

Probably didn’t become available until the event ended earlier today

[noble scarab]

the bow entry looks to be about someone related to the Phantom, same last name anyway

[hasty raven]

LeRoux?

I just closed the game

[noble scarab]

yea

[noble scarab]

Francis LeRoux, The Peacock of the Bayou

dated from Oct 18 1895

bascially someone talking about how Mr LeRoux was teaching them to be a hunter

[hasty raven]

not just that

Franix LeRoux was teaching his slave girl to be a Hunter from childhood

[noble scarab]

i didnt catch that during the quick read i did

bit messed up

[narrow halo]

#CancelThePhantom

[earnest jungle]

Post it if you got it

[opaque glade]

Wha

Is he related to the phantom in any way?

the last name is familiar

[noble scarab]

the phantom is Gus LeRoux, this guy is Francis

can't be his dad cause the dude killed his own father

[white topaz]

dude i just realized when you're spectating the audio is muffled because you're looking on at your bothers from the afterlife, and that means that the voices that you can hear in game are your fallen brothers in arms

thats beautiful

[white topaz]

OH MY GOD AND ITS ONLY WHEN YOU'RE FULL DEAD LIKE BURNT OUT

THAT IT SOUNDS WEIRD

FUCKING CRYTEK

GOSH DARN FIRE VIDEO GAME DEVS

love ya ❤️

[molten forge]

Funn fact, if you stop spectating then spectate again, it disappears

[white topaz]

i still believe that was a conscious decision

but thats SO sick

aaaa i love hunt

[raw gust]

given there's a sinner's jezail and sinner's prayer legendary weapon, and that the sinner's prayer has arabic on it, i guess there were a group of muslim/middle eastern hunters called the sinners

[fallow gorge]

Absolutely

[earnest jungle]

The Sinners are a predominantly Muslim group of Hunters

[vital smelt]

Hey guys. I'm new in the game. And have some interest in lore. May be someone can give link on YouTube channels or sites where i can find lore info?

[fallow gorge]

Check the pinned messages

[jovial basin]

Jezail also a form of weapon used in middle east, i think afghanistan. Tho its conpletly different than the skin

[narrow halo]

Easily googable

haha googa

[honest minnow]

You know one dlc they could include could be a British big game hunter. Have one of the weapons be a English longsword instead of a cavalry saber. I mean they already have the nitro rifle, they could also include a Howdah pistol as well.

[icy brook]

Jim Corbett themed skin

[rustic hearth]

A big ass broadsword would be the coolest thing ever

[honest minnow]

Or a pair of monsters based on the tsavo man eaters.

[narrow halo]

Why does the Kid's description say that his skill with two revolvers earned him his place among hunters?

Since every bum seems to be able to become one

I guess his position is high among them, but that doesnt seem so

[hasty raven]

It's because of how young he his

[rotund ferry]

Cringe everywhere I see

[hasty raven]

What

[fallow gorge]

Pretty much what Sheriff Hardin and Lynch were doing, although for different reasons

Pretty sure Lynch used random people to torture and lure demons to make the serum

[narrow halo]

I'm talking about quality of characters

Most of Hunt's hunters aren't zealots who dedicated their lives to fight evil, they are criminals trying to make a quick buck

[icy brook]

It seems hunts, especially in the Louisiana event, are just other low effort ways to get rich quick, they are the new gold rush or Buffalo hunts

[fallow gorge]

Exactly

Most of them don't know what they're getting into though, as there isn't a solid introduction or explaination to them once they become hunters

[honest minnow]

Have we figured out if it’s just Louisiana or is it spreading all over? Or has it been happening before and Louisiana is like a mass out break?

[hasty raven]

Louisiana is just one of many, happening all over the world and throughout history

There's one currently or recently in New York, one currently in China, and one recently in the Cascade mountain range that are confirmed

It's also implied that many Native American legends are based on incidents that have happened on their land long ago, as well as the Nian Monster legend from Chinese folklore

The Louisiana incident is an abnormally severe and unique incident, though. Usually, Hunters aren't out killing each other, or being able to hunt in trios

[noble scarab]

We also know that the Louisiana event is also eventually resolved given that all of the notes are from the future

more or less resolved

[hasty raven]

Also, incidents can apparently work in a wide variety of ways, according to the Native American and Chinese legends that were based on ancient incidents. An infection that creates Grunts which metamorphose into other forms doesn't seem to be a feature necessarily present in every incident

[noble scarab]

there also seem to be different types of entity that can cause these events

more than just a sculptor

[hasty raven]

Yeah, that's why it's likely not all incidents operate the same way. For example, the Louisiana incident is caused by an entity called the Sculptor that can't get into our world, so it introduces a corruption that turns people into Grunts like a disease which can make them metamorphose into a variety of useful forms, as well as creating 'bosses' that serve important roles, all so that it has peons to open rifts that help it get in

Meanwhile, the ancient Chinese incident that is implied to have inspired the legend of the Nian Monster may well have been that entity entering our world and causing trouble itself

And the Native American legends that may have been inspired by ancient incidents involve giant snakes and... lots of snakes... I'm not well versed on that but it's very different to the Louisiana incident

[icy brook]

I wish we had some more info on the NY and cascade events

[noble scarab]

on a side note, the Kid's pistols are made in honor of his siblings, who died in a fire

[narrow halo]

Which he may or may not have started himself

[honest minnow]

Light the shadow should’ve included a snake boss since it also introduced native characters.

Speaking of which what are some ideas for future bosses?

[narrow halo]

Personally I had no idea the next killer would be cyber bird furry hoarder

So I'll refrain from guessing

[small abyss]

Lol

[edgy aspen]

A snake like critter would be quite cool.

Or a scarecrow type.

[narrow halo]

Apparently snakes aren't friends of the Sculptor

His domain is bugs and ash

[hasty raven]

and scrapbeaks

[narrow halo]

Go 🧐 yourself

[small abyss]

A rougarou or gator world boss

[edgy aspen]

GATOR!!!

[noble scarab]

A vote for a rougarou

[hasty raven]

Rougarator

[glad verge]

is it known when did the infection started?

[hasty raven]

1895

[glad verge]

not from New Orleans

[hasty raven]

Don't think there was a concrete outbreak date so much as it was a creeping, gradually worsening thing

[hasty raven]

What do you mean?

For one, I don't believe New Orleans was where the infection began, or know if it ever was confirmed to spread to it

[glad verge]

in the pinned lore, in the first questions, it says that they won't reveal it yet, but New Orleans is 1895

that there's more places, so I thought that maybe by now a previous date has been mentioned or something

[hasty raven]

Doesn't seem like I can look at that document on mobile

Well the Louisiana incident with the corruption/infection is only one of many incidents that have taken place across the world and all throughout history

They don't all necessarily deal with an infection type thing like the one in Louisiana. Incidents, or Hunts, are caused by extrauniversal entities trying to break into our world (demons, basically), and it so happens that the Hunt in Louisiana is caused by an entity called the Sculptor that can't get into our world by itself, so it spreads a corruption that infects people and turns them into peons that help open the way in for the Sculptor

Sorry for the load of information

[glad verge]

nah, I asked for lore, I want a lot information

[honest minnow]

So I think one idea for a new dlc should be teddy Roosevelt . Not some one based in teddy but ACTUALLY teddy Roosevelt in the swamps hunting monsters. I think it would be epic.

[hasty raven]

does the time period even work out?

lol he would have been 7 years old when Hunt takes place

whoops no, he would have been 37

am dumb

[simple badge]

And he did spend time in Louisiana hunting bear. More northern Louisiana but still Louisiana

[honest minnow]

Makes sense that he would be attracted to the bayou. He’d be all over that like me on a Vegas buffet.

[noble scarab]

Teddy would be OP he’d bitch slap all 11 other players at once then go on and fucking take a shit on the Sculptor himself

Grunts? Armored? Hives? Fucking meatheads??? Not in Teddy’s bayou

[night sage]

yeah if they invited Teddy the hunt would be over

[honest minnow]

Though it would be a good opportunity to add the Winchester 1895, it was one of his favorite rifles.

[narrow halo]

That would make him a hunter and give him magical std

So leave mr.president alone

[twilit quiver]

Do you know if there is an exact date on when the events of Hunt happened ?

[noble scarab]

We just have a few scattered dates of random events, nothing concrete on things like when the first boss showed up or stuff like that. You’d have to check through the notes and things

[honest minnow]

It’s in the 1890s which makes the browning auto 5 a bit anachronistic.

[icy brook]

[honest minnow]

The a5 came out in 1905, which I’m not really complaining on I’m just saying. If they set it in like 1905-10 then it would be fine plus you’d have more semi autos like the 1903 colt or the Luger PO8

Oh and the Remington 08.

Damn I’m on a roll with this.

[icy brook]

I’ve been advocating for the model 95 since like pre-release

[raw gust]

late 1890's though. It's really only 2 or 3 years early for the auto 5 to be there

[icy brook]

It’s kiiiind of feasible a physical prototype could have been built by 1896 or 7, so it’s not super anachronistic

It just requires some mental gymnastics

[honest minnow]

I guess. And yeah it’s late 90s if we go by the doloch. The thing it’s based on was first churned out in 1896 so it’s a tough idea. Hell semi autos started turning up in the west almost as soon as they were made which makes sense.

[raw gust]

iirc the louisiana event started in 1895 and "currently" in hunt it's 1896-1897 ish

though tbh with some of the guns it would work better if it was 1898

[empty owl]

the auto 5 in game is stated to be a prototype as far as i can remember

[raw gust]

irl it was designed in ... 97? i think. but didn't really go into mass production until like 1900

so since hunt "started" in 95 it's a couple years early for the prototype

but it's cool and there are monsters about so it's fine to fudge it

I'd want a semi auto shotgun too with scrapbeak around

[noble scarab]

One of the salter bros and his hunting partner were responsible for the crown and king I think

Either that or it was the avtomat, maybe both

Thinking about it I think It was the avtomat, however other hunter factions were shown to possess one as well

[empty owl]

that's the lore of the brother's keeper skin

[narrow halo]

Salter brother guided a man selling c&k to the bayo

Avtomat was designed by some night of the hunter mumbo jumber, but blueprints were stolen

I think the same c&k guy, Yuri, built it with blueprints

[icy brook]

Fax

[scenic agate]

What is the lore behind Quickplay

[narrow halo]

Hunters trying to escape hell

Condemning others to it

[plain zenith]

Anyone knows what are the belief or the goals of the Cult of the Night of the Hunter?

[hasty raven]

It says in the game that they believe they're earning a place in the rapture by doing Hunts

Don't quote me on that though

[earnest jungle]

Basically the Cult of the Night Hunt believe that the ultimate corruption of our realm by the Sculptor is inevitable and that if they perform certain rituals and sacrifices and gather the blood of the boss monsters they will be saved

[noble scarab]

The night seer’s rifle specifically had a calendar of the end times on it, a countdown

[honest minnow]

So the Mayan calendar but more American.

It would be interesting to have some sort of story mission. Do we even know what the sculptor is?

[noble scarab]

It’s a kind of entity that wants to breach our world and is attempted to do so by creating monsters and affecting the area around them

[honest minnow]

And he’s doing this in Louisiana. If he wanted monsters he just had to go to backwoods Alabama.

[noble scarab]

hes one of a number of entities doing this kinda thing. other locations that have or have had events are New York, the Cascades, and China

[honest minnow]

That would be an interesting sequel.

I’d like to see it in New York or London or maybe even Russia.

[hasty raven]

There was/is seeminly one in Russia with the Russian weapon imports

[potent merlin]

What does Monroe suffer from which makes him so pale and his veins appear almost purple? Or is it merely a spoopy aesthetic?

[empty owl]

to be frankly honest, i think it's a mixture of both psychological, physical, and possibly supernatural

[potent merlin]

Figured, question is though what psychological and physical (and possibly supernatural) factors affect your skin like that.

[noble scarab]

Huff did some fucked up shit to him and then he became a hunter. Hunter serum tends to make you pale. Then who knows what huff did

[empty owl]

i'd say due the isolation and possibly lack of proper care in the asylum his skin became fairly pale

and possibly due to a lack of sunlight

[noble scarab]

That’d do it as well

Dude also probably got vivisected or maybe even brought back to life, given that he has an autopsy scar

[empty owl]

could possibly be

[desert mesa]

monroe just lived in a society lol

[potent merlin]

Metaaaaaaaal

[potent merlin]

Well you ain't wrong

[stable tundra]

OK I know I'm late to this, but I gotta know, what does "Two above, three below." mean? Is that basically a callout on enemy positions when seen in dark sight?

[potent merlin]

Sounds like a take on as above, so below but might just be like a coincidence

Baphomet shit

[stable tundra]

Idk why but it's such a cool line in my opinion. I can't quite put my finger on a reason, but it's one of my favorite lines in the song

[hasty raven]

I just thought it meant 'two above ground, three buried'

Since the very next lines are about digging graves

[earnest jungle]

The Irony of all of this is that Historically the East Louisiana State Hospital was a fairly progressive institution for the time and actually tried to treat its patients humanely.

And both the real Philip Huff Jones and his father John Welch Jones worked to tirelessly to improve the conditions of the Hospital.

[narrow halo]

That's what they want you to belive

[plain zenith]

@hasty raven@earnest jungle Thanks for the answer about the Night of the Hunter

[hasty raven]

Np but Emmett's was better lol

[earnest jungle]

Two Above, Three bellow; Two are alive and three are dead. There are two possible explanations: this lyric is about hunters the Port Sulfur Band has killed or it’s about deceased members of the band. The Port Sulfur Band were playing the Lewis Saloon the Night Outbreak Hit DeSalle. The two lead singers of the Port Sulfur band were among the few survivors as the crowd violently transformed.

[stable tundra]

Wait wait wait....the band is part of the lore?

That's AWESOME dude

[hasty raven]

hold on is that true or did you make that up

[noble scarab]

That’s true

From their Spotify description

[hasty raven]

oh wow, cool

I mean, I wasn't doubting that the band was canon to Hunt, I was more so questioning the fact that three of them died

[pliant bolt]

Has anyone got the full lyrics to the song about the train to Orleans?

[noble scarab]

It’s not out yet, but hopefully it’ll be sometime this year

[earnest jungle]

The lyrics are out

[charred spade]

https://discordapp.com/channels/350201607788429323/370142302196334593/848833952541573140

[hasty raven]

those aren't official

[earnest jungle]

They come from one of the Devs Empathy can't really get anymore official than that.

[charred spade]

[noble scarab]

Those are official, it’s just not the whole thing yet. I’m hype for the full song + album tho

[silk heron]

Who is lynch?

[noble scarab]

She’s complicated. She’s either some kind of supernatural entity that’s hoping from body to body or she’s a highly trained occultist that is still somehow able to hop from body to body. She killed Huff and trained the Twins to hunt, and worked with Sheriff Hardin’s group post AHA collapse. There’s probably a bunch more, but she’s been shown to be able to regenerate her body or find a new one. She can also trap demons and make them into the serum hunters use for protection and much more

[stable tundra]

Man that 2 above 3 below line just got a whole lot deeper I think

[stable tundra]

It feels like a bit of both I guess, the way it leads to the next verse

[honest minnow]

Which song is that from?

[hasty raven]

The one in the Dark Sight trailer

[honest minnow]

I need to hear that through.

What do we know about the twins?

Also so that’s how the hunters get that mojo

They drink demon juice or something?

[empty owl]

most of the things that we know about the twins are that they are orphans, a crony to lynch, and one of them was "touched" by a snake god

[narrow halo]

Don't forget to mention that the other has big titty native gf

[empty owl]

all of which is contained in bad as they come

[narrow halo]

"Bad as they seem"

Ingame fictional story about the twins

[honest minnow]

Hgh

, you had me at big titty native gf also isn’t one of them a blacksmith?

[narrow halo]

Both are

They were raised by their uncle

Their father William Durant aka Black Coat aka mr McNasty killed their mother upon their birth and then killed their adoptive father/uncle on their sixteenth birthday

He was in turn killed by the twins

[honest minnow]

Sounds like my family.

I’m surprised no ones written a book on this. Or have they?

[narrow halo]

I've written a fanfic, but it's mostly porn

[sudden glacier]

why am I not surprised

[small abyss]

So black coat is dead

[narrow halo]

Yes

[edgy aspen]

Who are the twins?

[honest minnow]

I know I’m going to regret asking this, but how freaky is it?

[earnest jungle]

The Twins were a pair of hunters central to the summer of 1895 and Lycnh’s botched attempt to bring an end to the Louisiana Outbreak.

Russel Chambers described them as being the center of a Hurricane spinning in the Bayou. Collins seemed to believe they were central to the rise and fall of Lynch the Irish Woman. And John Voelkel/Victor spent months trying to track them down and save them from whatever Lynch was planning.

[honest minnow]

he the one with the snake Nagant? I loved his stories.

[earnest jungle]

Chambers is best boi

[honest minnow]

I know right.

Someone needs to write a pro book on this.

There’s a lot of lore to work with but you can make your own story with it.

[split rover]

So now that the kid is in the game isn't it kind of canonical that back to the Future is in the same universe or parallel universe

Since theres also the DeLorean covered up in a barn with gadgets and stuff around the barn too on that one map

[empty owl]

wait, so this john voelkel is actually victor caldwell under an assumed name?

[earnest jungle]

No

John Voelkel has a very distinctive appearance he dresses in all Black and blinks one eye at a time.

More importantly he uses Russian Guns

Specifically a Mosin Bayonet.

[stable tundra]

So

Why did Bone Doctor revive The Revenant

Was there a specific reason for this, or is Bone Doctor just a chill dude going around being Mercy from Overwatch?

[empty owl]

no discernable reason given, however the description of the revenant did read that he followed the chants of the night whatever so it's safe to say that the bone doctor revived him because he's "special"

[stable tundra]

Interesting

I think the only character concept more interesting to me than the whole Bone Doctor/Revenant bromance is The Reverend, but I may and or may not be a bit biased in that regard

[empty owl]

could be, but then again christianity doesn't really bode well with vodoo magic due to it being "against the will of god"

especially the south

[stable tundra]

I'm just curious about The Reverend's backstory. Like the tattoos and such

I know a bit from what it says in game but the Dark Sight trailer kinda left me wondering

It shows him popping off and blasting a bunch of zombies with a LeMat, and then an immolator blows up and starts running towards the camera

I was under the impression that the first immolator was the pastor at a different church, and the congregation at The Reverend's own church became zombified and that started his backstory. I didn't think The Reverend's lore had anything to do with the lore of the first immolator

[noble scarab]

All preachers can become immolators

So the trailer may be showing us a possible fate of the reverend

[upbeat kiln]

Hello! Quick question for the knowledgeable, as I am having a bit of difficulty trying to distinguish the differences in character motivations.

There is a conflict between Dr. Jones and Lynch, which then later, after Lynch kills Dr. Jones, escalates to conflict between Lynch and the Twins.

Did Dr. Jones want to get rid of the Sculptor, or did he want it to stay in Louisiana - because the wealth and hunting opportunities would be basically endless? Was this what caused Lynch to kill him?

[noble scarab]

Huff wanted the Sculptor gone, same as everyone else, he had just mismanaged the AHA which led to its overall decline. Lynch killed him because she was attempting to destabilize the AHA power structure. The Twins were later told to not trust Lynch, which put them in conflict.

[upbeat kiln]

Thank you for your answer! ❤️

[stable tundra]

The perspective don't support that. It looks more like The Reverend was firing towards the immolator in the video

Well, not saying that they can't become immolators, but that The Reverend wasn't the one who turned into one in the video. Not unless there was a total perspective switch

[hasty raven]

I just took it as an Immolator coming in and attacking the Reverend at the same time as his congregation turning

[hasty raven]

Also technically the Reverend's lore does intersect with the first Immolator's story, since the Immolator's Monstrorvm entries are written by the Reverend, detailing a boy who came to his confessional and confessed to killing the preacher that became the Immolator before their eyes

[earnest jungle]

That is incorrect. The father who received the confession of the Mafia hitman was Vincent Clemens not Ishim Grid

Furthermore it was not the Bone Doctor who raised up the Revenant from his grave it was the Night Singer a member of the Cult of the Night Hunt.

They either reused the Bone Doctor’s Model (unlikely), the Bone Doctor IS the Night Singer, or the Bone Doctor intentionally or unintentionally intercepted the Revenant before the Cult of the Night Hunt reached him.

[earnest jungle]

If you slow down the video you can see that what’s happening is the Reverend Ishim Grid is transforming into an Immolator.

Ishim Grid was a Protestant Evangelizer who sought to convert the Catholic population of Stillwater Bayou to Protestantism.

And he used the money of the very Catholic Widow Blanchett to do so. To gain her funding he lead her to believe he was building a Catholic Church. When she learned the truth it’s said that she cursed Ishim Grid and his whole congregation.

As time went on Grid began become paranoid and his sermons turned to the external dangers his congregation faced: industrialization that polluted the country side and hurricanes that battered the coast.

[stable tundra]

I thought it was a Reverend Jerimiah that was the first immolator

[earnest jungle]

Jeremiah was the first Immolator but he wasn’t the last

As I was saying Ishim Grid then he began to focus on super natural evils and the sins of the congregation. He became obsessed with the sins of his congregation, the demons that lurked within, and the fire and brimstone that awaited them.

[stable tundra]

But how can he be an immolator but also a legendary is what I'm wondering lol

[earnest jungle]

Same way Black Coat can be a legendary and also very much dead.

Gameplay and story segregation.

[stable tundra]

So which church is the burned down one?

Is it Ishim's? Or is it Jerimiah's

[earnest jungle]

Ishim Grid’s Church was Healing Waters Church.

[stable tundra]

I know. Is that the burned down one though

[earnest jungle]

Burned down one?

What are you talking about?

[stable tundra]

I'm trying to figure out if there's any way that the clip wasn't actually showing The Reverend (Ishim) actually at the other guy's (Jerimiah) church

Because there's more than one church

[earnest jungle]

No it’s him and I’ve got the screen shots to prove it.

[stable tundra]

Yeah I noticed the clothes were similar but I wasn't sure if it was specifically him

[earnest jungle]

Just before it explodes we can clearly see his face.

[stable tundra]

That's wild

[earnest jungle]

Light the Shadow also confirms its him:
Oh preacher, preacher
That look in your eyes
Call down the devil
Let the bullets fly

[stable tundra]

It's strange that both The Reverend and Jerimiah were clergyman

I wonder if there's something to that

[earnest jungle]

Yes

The Immolator Lore speculates that what causes the transformation is that the volatile energies of the sculptors realm reacting to the righteous anger of Ishim Grid and Reverend Jeremiah.

Both were fiery preachers who preached against sin and corruption. Jeremiah specifically preached against the actions of the New Orleans Mafia.

Anyway after the outbreak hit Stillwater Bayou Grid and what remained of his congregation took to “cleansing” the bayou of sin and corruption.

But Ishim Grid couldn’t keep a lid on his temper and the Innoculum only grant resistance to the Corruption of the Darkness not complete immunity.

[stable tundra]

It's just kinda hard to view The Reverend as anything villainous

I may be a bit biased though

[icy brook]

I think his ends are just but the means are morally fucked up

[rotund ferry]

Like you think his Levis were made by Satan himself?

[icy brook]

Means* pardon

[toxic coral]

what year does this game take place during

i'm sorry if that's vague but I need a general time period

[split rover]

Sorry wrong server for a different game

[toxic coral]

what is the newest model of gun in the game

[split rover]

Takes place during 1895 I'm pretty

Sure

[toxic coral]

darn

[sudden glacier]

a gun from 1896

and also items beint said they're from 96

[red breach]

What is this little train model? 😮

[earnest jungle]

Back to the Future III reference

[empty owl]

non canon to the lore

[red breach]

But there are so many atmopsheric elements that nurish the lore so how can you establish the canon? excuse my ignorance

I'm talking about the kind of narrative that doesnt use words or comics, but graphical elements, silent ones that the player encounters while exploring the little places

[empty owl]

usually the game connects a certain location to a piece of lore

[red breach]

example

[empty owl]

but there are also throwaway gags here and there like the giant pumpkin

or shrek's house

[red breach]

another example

I bet the devs have something to say about the little untold stories of these unfortonate hilly billies 😛

[empty owl]

this is actually a bob ross reference that has been added by the devs since the stillwater bayou map dropped i think

each update adds a layer to the painting back in the day

[empty owl]

this is actually a reference to forrest gump

all of these are just silly easter eggs and references that the devs put in the game and are mostly non canon

i mean, it would be downright nuts to add shrek as a boss and a lore entry in the book of monsters just because his house made an appearance in desalle

[red breach]

thanks for the reference

[red breach]

thanks for the insight, I thought some of them where part of a silent narrative so you can take your own conclutions

[empty owl]

yeeeah, hunt isn't exactly a prime example of environmental storytelling

[sudden glacier]

also the hatfish

[red breach]

with just the edifications and items inside and the orography you can tell several things: productive activities, kind of villagers, kind of food and the horrible ways they died

[sudden glacier]

the fish that traveled far

[empty owl]

hatfish for next boss

[sharp schooner]

Tbh an aquatic boss would be interesting although probably a galactic pain in the ass 😅

I still wouldn't say no to a zombigator at scupper. That'd be intense.

[sharp schooner]

Although, there's a spawn chance at Shrek's house for a meathead and a tiny horse.

[rustic hearth]

Which is really sad, since hunt has some real potential for some really cool environmental storytelling

[noble scarab]

I think we have decent environmental storytelling. The Easter eggs don’t subtract from it too much. We get lots of cool details in some places, like the bodies at pelican prison, or the dead horses in the swamp at cypress

[edgy aspen]

How are you defining "environmental story telling"?
I find the environment rich with detail that speaks of a story that only the dead know.

[rotund ferry]

Help me plz😭
Firty, What does "Tidy Hand" mean?

Truncated Hand of Ariel D'aunoy?
or
Journal of Clean handwriting?

Second, What does "Cleveland's eyes had a glassy"

Is Cleveland pet? of Mrs. Glover? Just animal?
or
Is it Region name?

Reference,
Butcher Mastery 3
Journal of Ariel D'aunoy

My English is not that great.😭

[noble scarab]

tidy hand = good handwriting/penmanship

truncated hand of """ = shortened form of writing

same thing for journal

Cleveland was a pet that was stuffed with glass eyes

[rotund ferry]

Thank you!
You complete me :)😘

[small abyss]

If black coat is dead how can we play him

[rotund ferry]

He ain't dead. Spartans never die, they are just missing in action

[lunar sky]

Is Cain part of hunt lore

[molten forge]

Yes

There's a theory that he's one of the DeSalle brothers who went mad

Either that or he's Biblical Cain

[lunar sky]

I like the biblical Cain one better he is grimy enough and looks like a person who would kill his brother

And this game is diving into religion as you could hear in the soundtracks. That’s just my guess

[sudden glacier]

there aren't other dimensions in Christianity or it's sisted religions to my knowledge, so I highly doubt it

[lunar sky]

The only thing we got is his name and a piece of his backstory

[sudden glacier]

his name is really all that ties him to Biblical Cain

[small abyss]

I mean thats where I'd say heaven or hell is. I dont think the Bible ever explicitly states there is or isnt.

[sudden glacier]

and we know the Sculptor is from neither, because he's one of many

[strange garnet]

anybody have scrapbeak mastery 5 text? trying to find it online

struggling to find it

[earnest jungle]

According to legend Cain was cursed by God and to this very day wanders the earth. But if he’s supposed to be that cain he would pronounce look more middle easterner

[hasty raven]

Cain is 100% not the actual Cain from the Bible

Far too many problems with that assumption

Plus, why would they canonically confirm that the Abrahamic religions/Yahweh are real in Hunt's universe through a random DLC character's name alone

[raw gust]

I'm pretty sure Cain is supposed to be whichever DeSalle brother succeeded in killing the other

[plain zenith]

Do we know what Finch and Huff looked like?

[hasty raven]

They were s-sexy and h-h-hot 😳

[plain zenith]

😆 yes sure, like most of the cowgirl were back in the day, with a few teeth missing

[hasty raven]

Finch and Huff are men

[plain zenith]

I thought Finch was a woman

Idk why...

[hasty raven]

me too, don't worry

[junior pecan]

Has anyone gotten the hunting bow masteries yet?

[noble scarab]

I have the first one, it’s about a relation of the Phantom teaching his slave how to hunt. The slave then killed him.

[hasty raven]

we don't know how they're related (at least not without the second entry), but the slave driver's last name is the same as the Phantom's. It's not his father, who's the only significant family to the Phantom given in the lore, since the Phantom killed him himself

maybe the second entry elaborates on that front

[glad verge]

what, I didn't know that he killed himself

[hasty raven]

no, the Phantom killed him, himself

[glad verge]

oh ok

read wrong

[edgy aspen]

Speaking of Phantom: this is an interesting video. https://youtu.be/I4YTock1b5E
Is it Canon or is it just a good fan interpretation?

[glossy falcon]

Its from the video contest, so not canon. Just a story made up by the editor.

[tender hawk]

Anyone got the fifth scrapbeak entry unlocked?

Seems to be the hardest thing to find anywhere ever

[noble scarab]

I have it, it just continues talking about the son’s trial and him describing his father turning into scrapbeak

[earnest jungle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/538731706065354752/833348997615452190/image0.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/538731706065354752/833348997904203796/image1.png

[tender hawk]

@earnest jungleThanks

[narrow halo]

Anyone got a good look at The Kids hands?

One of his hands has a tied bloody napkin with blood and letters on it

Can be just a quick bandage, but could it also be colours from a lady friend?

[fallow gorge]

Didn't notice

Have you seen what letters are on it?

[noble scarab]

A few of the hunters have that on one hand or the other, like the red neck, or dead blessing. I’m willing to bet that it has to do with the initiation, maybe you have to cut your hand or that’s where the injection can go or something

[narrow halo]

Obviosly not

[pastel topaz]

GM are the letters i believe @fallow gorge

[fallow gorge]

Probably not, it's just a simple injection. You can see a new recruit injected the serum in his arm all find and dandy in the Dark Sight trailer

[fallow gorge]

They gotta mean something but what? Hmn

[pastel topaz]

Probably has something to do with his dead family members @fallow gorge

His pistols are named after his dead siblings after all

[narrow halo]

And neither of them fit those two letters

Knowing that their name was Abbaddon

[pastel topaz]

Hes a thief as well might have just stolen it @narrow halo @fallow gorge

[narrow halo]

Perfect crime

Steal a napkin

[pastel topaz]

Handkerchief ^

Lot of high society had those back in the day

[fallow gorge]

I wish legendary hunters had entries to unlock like guns

[pastel topaz]

Perfect target @narrow halo

[fallow gorge]

What's the tally marks all over his body/hat

I'm curious about those as well

[pastel topaz]

Kill count

@fallow gorge

[narrow halo]

Napkins he stolen

[fallow gorge]

Doesn't seem like the guy to keep his kill count

[pastel topaz]

An embroiderer wouldn't waste time on a napkin @narrow halo

[noble scarab]

Dude was swaggering out of the bar in his trailer after 1v3ing of course he’d keep a kill count

[pastel topaz]

He keeps track of the bullets he fires, he says his siblings memory lives on with each shot @fallow gorge

[narrow halo]

Come on, it's obviosly a kill count

Since he is young he feels like he has to prove himself

[fallow gorge]

play piano
1v3's
Doesn't revives
Refuses to explain
Leaves

[rotund ferry]

Anyone wanna give me a basic tldr of the lore?

[real geode]

zombies

[hasty raven]

Extreme tl:dr-
Eldritch demon being spreads zombie parasite/soul corruption to make peons to help break it into our world. Hunters are trying to stop them

[hybrid locust]

Extremely long load in times, dead lobbies, sync problems, not very competitive play for hardcore players, no long term goals.

Good news, one of a kind NPC/PVP game play experience, Audio que’s a great, well balanced builds/weapons

[rotund ferry]

lmao

[honest minnow]

It is a pain in the ass. I have to turn my graphics waaaay down to be able to coherently play.

[glad verge]

is there any legendary hunter that's dead, other than black coat?

and reverend?

[hasty raven]

Revenant*

[honest minnow]

So here’s a fun question, suppose you could set hunt in another era, when would it be? For me it would be just after ww1, like 1919 or 1920. And you could even set it in post war Europe so you could do hunts in trenches and bunkers.

[noble scarab]

What would a modern hunt look like? Fucking drone striking the butcher?

[main horizon]

Cyberbully him on social media

[bold tiger]

Basically

The lore talks about how so many more people would have survived if they had basic training and took precautions

And the implication is that the A.H.A. was dissolved (I think) and that the problems are handled by a new agency

Some hunters without borders type of organization

Might be old lore though

[edgy aspen]

For me this is the latest Era you could try and set the type of game with its non ADHD type gunplay unless you built in legit inertia and stamina mechanics.

Somewhere in Japan around a similar time to play on the rich Oni options.

[amber abyss]

Taisho era hunt would be sick

[glossy falcon]

while it's an interesting question, it's not lore related. Would be better suited for #hunt-general

[strange garnet]

meathead mastery 4 is wild

a woman birthed a meathead?! oh nah

[noble scarab]

To be fair it was a smaller meathead, like 8 year old kid sized. And it was also somehow eating her from inside out

[icy brook]

Well I suppose we should be seeing Smith and Wesson proxy lore coming soon

[devout cedar]

Probably release of the new song? 😵‍💫

[narrow halo]

Probably because all but two of them died in that saloon

In lore

[icy brook]

The show must go on lol

[rotund ferry]

Break the chain vibes

[narrow halo]

You know what baffles me?

The amount of resourses AHA has

We already know that it's a very loose organisation

But Huff makes an army of 14 crazies and calls it great

Hardin can't feed four people through the winter

Hunters resort to makeshift weapons

It's like eveyone is poor in that world

And Brewer so desperatly wanted to join the inner circle that she forfeit her position as a marshal

[potent merlin]

Cult status, lack of resources and inter organizational anarchy. Gotta love it

[narrow halo]

How could they ever keep the incidents secret

And not have goverment step in

[hasty raven]

the government has to know, there's no way the AHA/larger international organization that manages it and other branches are an independent entity that operate in the shadows

it's only a secret to the wider world

[narrow halo]

I mean the goverment doesnt control any of the hunters

Doesnt have hunters of it's own

One can argue that AHA is just that

But the bounty system refutes that

[empty owl]

The government is just the clean up crew in this case

[empty owl]

also can you cite the source for this?

[glad verge]

where is the port sulphur band poster located, the December 10 I think it is?

also, is it new?

[noble scarab]

It’s in the Spotify Bio for the band

I think it was implied somewhere that the governor of LA approved of the AHA, but that may be the old lore. It’s also possible that up until now they’ve been good about these kinda things and the govt hasn’t had to step in. Also Huff could easily have tried to assure them everything was “fineeeeeeee”.

[empty owl]

that's definitely the old lore

i'd say that the governor is actually in on the whole masquerade or was bribed by huff to look the other way

[noble scarab]

I’d be curious to know what the going exchange rate for hunt dollars to $ is

The AHA gotta be getting money from somewhere, maybe the govt?

Or they run a coal company style script system

[hasty raven]

Hunt dollars are never mentioned in the lore, only 'bonds' are mentioned whenever payment for the Hunts is brought up

So I think hunt dollars are just a game mechanic and 'blood bonds' are their real payment. How much those are worth Idk but assuming they're awarded at the same rate in-universe as they are in-game, probably pretty valuable

[empty owl]

they're in league with the government but economic wise i'd say that huff has enough connection to powerful people to do his bidding that money is no longer a problem to the AHA

[noble scarab]

There was that advertisement they had for somewhere in SC that was selling the vapors for blood bonds

[empty owl]

i think i remember huff directly threatening the head of the winfield arms company in a letter

[noble scarab]

Huff just be like that

[empty owl]

as i've said, huff has connections to powerful people like victor caldwell and the such

so money is not exactly in shortage for the organization or himself for that matter

and the chances of hunters surviving is like what? 4 out of 10?

[hasty raven]

I'd say it's more like 2/5 than 4/10

[empty owl]

i mean, "missing persons" won't ask for a paycheck

so less people to pay, if they even get out of the swamp alive

[junior pecan]

Hunt dollars used to be “gold” which was mentioned in lore here and there iirc

Could be completely misremembering though.

[tired sail]

dude thats exactly the same lol

[hasty raven]

(joke)

[tired sail]

(clap)

[late tinsel]

apparently Victor Caldwell is roaming the bayou.

[whole steeple]

bruh

with an avto

[twilit quiver]

the famous Mosin-Caldwell Avtomat

[molten forge]

Caldwell supplies them with guns iirc.

[narrow halo]

Sweet naive child

[icy brook]

I mean in antiquity you used to be able to take out huge orders from Winchester, Sharps, Smith and Wesson and others

I’m sure the AHA can scrape up the funds for such orders, it seemed Hardin could

It also seems most hunters furnish themselves, especially those who have experience

Kind of like the Buffalo hunters looking for a quick buck vs those who did it as a career

[empty owl]

the asylum massacre was not explained clearly but it seemed that the staff of the asylum murdered every single one of their patients as a way to clean their tracks and to lighten dead weights as the AHA is focusing on the internal civil war that they're having

either that or a rival hunter group stormed the asylum and murdered everyone there including the staff, security, and the patients

[noble scarab]

Monroe did make it out at least

which is the important thing

[empty owl]

monroe is the only confirmed survivor of the asylum massacre i think

details are scarce

[plucky crane]

Anyone know the story behind the small 'dead npc' model in a cage in slaughter with two adult sized NPCs around it? Or is it just deco? I seem to find Romero shotguns on the boxes next to them relatively often.

[hasty raven]

no idea what you're referring to

[noble scarab]

We’d need a screenshot. Probably just someone had locked up some grunts? Also weapons just kinda spawn in certain places, with the low tiers like the Romero being more common I think

[empty owl]

we may need a screenshot on what you're talking about

also about the romero, i'd say it's just a random spawn

[plucky crane]

Next I'm in hunt, I'll make sure to grab a pic for ya guys. I just found it to be an interesting little thing.

[visual finch]

So... Scrapbeak

In his lair there's big eggs... what are those?

[jovial basin]

Eggs

[visual finch]

[visual finch]

Can't

[noble scarab]

those may be how scrapbeak reproduces

or "respawns"

all the bosses come from various sources, meatheads become butchers, spiders arise from corpse piles, and assassins come from corrupted hunters

they're all just copies of the original but its thought that they arise from other monsters

[hasty raven]

I brought up those scrapbeak eggs before

And that's the conclusion we reached back then too

[hasty raven]

please provide an alternate explanation

[wintry dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/davie504-checkmate-chess-gif-15254912

[hasty raven]

ok

so your explanation is 'there is none plus you're dumb'

[halcyon osprey]

What a turn of events

[hasty raven]

what have I done to deserve this

[plucky crane]

I did some digging and a really popular group of animals to keep as an exotic pet were birds from the ratite family. So emus, rhea, and the like. It's possible that since some of these eggs can be found in barns or buildings (oftentimes in hay), a farmer or individual purchased some to try and hatch. Veeeeery unlikely since the time period is a bit off, but that's the one thing that I think I can dig up.

Hopefully that gives a little different perspective on the presence of the big eggs haha.

[hasty raven]

the thing is that the eggs are crow eggs

[icy brook]

Perhaps it’s just an Easter egg

[dense nacelle]

Those are easter eggs

They are the reproduction method for the next boss to be added

which, like Dead by Daylight, is going to be a movie monster

in this case, Crites from the movie Critters

[hasty raven]

impossible....

absurd....

[dense nacelle]

compelling...

[hasty raven]

intriguing...

[amber abyss]

bro this movie scared the living fuck out of me as a kid

[dense nacelle]

Killer Clowns From Outer Space is going through licensing negotiations as well

so be prepared

supposedly the nose shots are gonna be tough

[glossy falcon]

let's keep it lore related please

[earnest jungle]

I know I’m a couple months late on this but Huff is dead. During the Summer of 1895 he was assassinated by a lone gunman believed to be in the employ of Lynch.

[hasty raven]

well uhh *was

[molten forge]

Finch replaced him iirc

[sleek merlin]

Can someone tell me, how this whole ,, plague“ started? I’m very curious

[sudden glacier]

demon from another dimension wants to colonize earth

[noble scarab]

More than one demon, this one is just more successful

Maybe not even a demon, it’s an entity

Different groups have different views, demon, god, etc the only certain thing is that it’s considered a Sculptor

[icy brook]

It’s half parasites in the blood half inter dimensional entity corruption, if that helps

I’m actually kind of surprised there isn’t a character or party in the lore that hasn’t attempted to harness the ambient power of the sculptor or other entities as a fuel source, I’d imagine these beings create a ton of energy when in the physical plain

Given that everyone was looking for new means of electrical generation in the Hunt era

[noble scarab]

Step 1: find rift
Step 2: plug toaster into rift
Step 3: ???
Step 4: profit

[stoic leaf]

Are the gunrunner and redshirt buddies now?

[edgy aspen]

Why do you say that?

[edgy aspen]

Aside from the Library, the Monstorium, the Levednary text in store where are you guys getting the lore info?
Seems like even going through most of this info, I'm missing something.

[noble scarab]

That’s about it really

[sleek merlin]

Thats really interesting, thanks buddys!

[sleek merlin]

Maybe you would start to corrupt yourself if you would try to use this energy. I mean this a power from another dimension which the Hunters maybe never fully understand.

[molten forge]

I mean, I'd kind of expect the Researcher to put at least some thesis to work for it

[noble scarab]

We know from the Meathead lore that the absorbing/using the sculptors power via the inoculate creates a super powerful hunter, however it also caused the meathead. So using those kinda things tends to be shunned probably

[stable tundra]

The UAC would like to know your location

[icy brook]

[untold blaze]

The Sculptor probably gives them prosthetics

He’s like the big bad

Yeah

He’s an interdimensional thingamabob if I’m remembering correctly, who’s causing all the monsters in the bayou to exist

Kind of

He ain’t in the dimension of the bayou, so he’s kind of pulling the strings from behind a veil as to say

Kinda

[edgy aspen]

Who is the faction with Bone Doctor and weird sister? Just those two so far? And are they "helping" the spread of the weird shit now?

[noble scarab]

They’re voodooists. Felis is also probably with them. I’m not sure of their goals, maybe someone else is more read up on them

[glad verge]

she is, it says in her bio that she's a colleague of Doctor John

[hasty raven]

The Sculptor is trying to break into our world

[glad verge]

and the revenant was resurrected by bone doctor, don't know why or their connection

[hasty raven]

It caused the corruption that creates the monsters and bosses so that they will help open up a way for it to enter

The Scrapbeak's purpose to the Sculptor is collecting resources to make things out of. It's entirely possible that Scrapbeaks create new prosthetics in case they die and another has to hatch and take its place

[noble scarab]

The revenant was rezed by the Night Speaker, then intercepted/dug out by the Bone Dr. then evidently worked as a free-ish agent cause he was seen working with the reverend

[glad verge]

aight

[noble scarab]

It’s kinda wack tbh. Wish we had more examples of that kind of resurrections

[hidden shadow]

halloween event

time for new ressurected

[pallid shell]

Where do you guys get the lore though ?

[empty owl]

the book of arms, book of monsters, and external sources like the game's website

also old lore entries

[twilit quiver]

legendary hunters also have descriptions with pieces of lore inside of it

[edgy aspen]

Each Trail has a small little tidbit too. It's like a detective story piecing it all together.

[proven vapor]

i like your pfp

[honest minnow]

So I just had an epiphany.

John Moses browning was a hunter.

also going to be going to revisit this in the morning.

[empty owl]

can you cite a source for that?

[uncut cedar]

John Moses browning does not exist in the hunt universe

[icy brook]

He does have a counterpart in Hunt lore

[uncut cedar]

Geoff crown or something

Has a secret friend named king who nobody has ever seen

Is probably El Diablo

Or Cthulhu

Whichever was on call at the time

[icy brook]

It’s too bad we only have one browning design in game

[uncut cedar]

Winnie 1887 was a browning design

Pretty sure it's like that for crown too

So you got 2

[icy brook]

True, I forgot that it was in game

I never use it anyway lol

Non of his good Winchester designs anyways

[uncut cedar]

Oof

I'll be sure to tell him that

[icy brook]

86, 94, or 95 when

[honest burrow]

The lever action shotgun is badass

[uncut cedar]

In that it gives you terrible bowel problems after using it

[honest burrow]

Just wait until the dragons breath and levering buffs come out for it

It’s ridiculous

On the test server

[icy brook]

I’m mostly a fan of his lever rifles, but it’s all to taste

[uncut cedar]

I'm not a fan of anything

Infact I'm more of an anti fan

anything you like, i hate

[icy brook]

Contrarian moment

[empty owl]

including cats?

and pineapples?

gee, what a shame

[uncut cedar]

Pineapples have lied to everyone for centuries

they're not one fruit, but many berries

Cats are exempt, because cats

[empty owl]

so you do share an interest with people

[uncut cedar]

I wrote that before i ate a donut

[empty owl]

a bit contrarian don't you think

[uncut cedar]

my misanthropy has been dissolved

[icy brook]

Humanity restored

[uncut cedar]

woah there partner

never said i was a domestic ape

[honest minnow]

well in the crown and king lore page the hunter describes going on a hunt with a man named moses and his brothers, he also says that Moses was a poet when it came to firearms. John Browning had a large family (father was a Mormon had like five wives) and was known as a savant when it came to firearm designs. they hunted the thing from Ogdon to Eureka. John Moses Browning lived in Ogdon and ran his gun shop there with his family. I know its circumstantial but it's a good theory. I'd love for Browning to be the equipment and weapon guy for the hunters as someone who loves firearms history.

[lyric arrow]

Not sure if it's the same person but the Redneck is called moses afaik

[earnest jungle]

Moses is a Louisiana Local. His chicken farm is up in DeSalle

[lyric arrow]

yeah the desall farm belongs to the redneck

it even say in his bio i think

[honest minnow]

well it was an idea

[potent merlin]

Who is Fyodor Brusilov mentioned in the description of The Polar Star legendary?

[noble scarab]

Far as we know he's nothing more than just a dude mentioned in that one entry

[icy brook]

I guess if we get a hint Moses was designing for Winfield I suppose it would be linked if not confirmed, given Browning was selling designs from 83 onward

I still can’t believe Browning was my age when he designed the high/low wall rifle lol

[restive patrol]

I'm pretty sure the terminus beginning entry mentions how he recommended for a pump action design (the m1897)

[icy brook]

Nice, I don’t have the terminus entries out that far, thanks for sharing

[empty owl]

he's a sea captain who's ship disappeared somewhere in the atlantic and safe to say he and his crew are dead

[cold idol]

Hello there

Boy can't wait to see what cool lore theories you came up with

[cold idol]

Well, he is obviosly named after Georgy Brusilov, leader of one failed expedition

His ship missing might be that he was a member of hunter organisation and expedition was a ruse to move all those russian weapons to louisiana

[rotund ferry]

yo so can anyone tell me why meatheads don’t actually have a head

it’s very clear that at some point they had a head

[hasty raven]

They didn't. The first Meathead was created when someone inoculated into the AHA with whatever rituals and serums they use got pregnant. The stuff that makes someone a Hunter apparently... negatively affected the fetus, and the pregnant Hunter went a little crazy and got insane demon powers before giving birth. What came out was a Meathead, already fully formed, the size of a 6 year old, who then promptly killed a few people and ate the mother (who laughed through the whole thing) before escaping into the bayou

Every subsequent Meathead is a copy of the original, like the Hives and possibly Immolators

[woeful acorn]

This awesome! I also love firearms and their history and came to a similar conclusion after reading one of the entries. Not sure if it’s the same one that you just mentioned

[honest minnow]

I actually work at a gun store so I’ve probably handled every gun in the game.

[icy brook]

Another historical firearms enthusiast

[woeful acorn]

I actually own a few that are in the game

[woeful acorn]

Mostly the American ones. I have no interest in the garbage rod (mosin)

[icy brook]

Also a man of class I see

[honest minnow]

I’ve got a Nagant revolver. I want a Lemat but only black powder exists.

[cold idol]

Behold, a man with no taste

[honest minnow]

Hey it’s fun to shoot.

[woeful acorn]

There are just better guns. And they are just as expensive as a used Winchester or Remington. Then all I have to do is add a cool stock. Then I get a better and more common ammo.

[hasty raven]

My theory is that, while the inoculum 'vaccinates' Hunters against the larval blood parasites, if one were to get pregnant, the parasites are able to infect the fetus and adapt to the inoculum, which the larvae 'feed on' which makes them grow massive and concentrates the power of the corruption, granting the mother supernatural abilities and making her go insane before giving birth to the Meathead. All the leeches covering the Meathead are actually massive, enhanced corruption larvae

I meant to send this way sooner but I was interrupted

[woeful acorn]

Sorry. Gun nuts here

[hasty raven]

Anyway that's my explanation for where the leeches in Meatheads come from. They're the larvae that replace the blood of Grunts, roided up on inoculum

[cold idol]

I doubt every hunt infection is just larvae

I think Sculptor isn't the only threat in the world

[woeful acorn]

^

[cold idol]

By that logic every gun not made today is horribly outdated

And therefore bad

[woeful acorn]

90° bolt throw

Multi priced bolt

*not including extractor

[hasty raven]

Where is this coming from? I didn't imply anything about any other Hunt

[cold idol]

Whatever does multipriced mean?

[cold idol]

Hunters. Hunt as in a world of hunt:showdown.

[hasty raven]

I doubt every even necessarily Hunt involves an infection

[woeful acorn]

Pieced*

And I’m not saying it’s a bad gun. I just don’t like it.

[cold idol]

Then don't call it garbage rod

H-how dare you

[woeful acorn]

By definition: it works reliably and is somewhat powerful.

I just think it’s a piece of garbage

[cold idol]

[woeful acorn]

The c96 is really cool

[hasty raven]

I was just explaining how Meatheads were created. I didn't mean Meatheads are a result of a Hunter getting pregnant just anywhere. After all, wouldn't they would have known well in advance that Hunters getting pregnant would end horribly with how many other Hunts are going on across the world and for how long they have had to been dealt with?

[cold idol]

No, I mean larvae in blood

I don't think it's the cause of infection, but a result of it

[woeful acorn]

That is an interesting point

[cold idol]

And inoculum isn't specificaly larvae vaccine

[hasty raven]

What do you mean a result of it. Like they're just filled with maggots because they're decaying?

[cold idol]

Well, Sculptor's domain is obviosly insects and ash

[hasty raven]

That doesn't explain where the green wasp-things come from that live in Hives and come out of banishing bosses

[cold idol]

So that's why because of his influence there are more of insects and ash

I think moths come out when banishing bosses, not hive bees

[hasty raven]

No, it's hive bees, I've made sure to make note of it

Furthermore, the purpose of Grunts is to metamorphose into other forms (Armored, Meatheads, Hives) upon being cocooned. It would make more sense that the larvae infesting their body facillitate this transformation

Than the corpse just magically reconstituting itself into something else

[cold idol]

I think we'd see more cocoons if they were actually doing that

A lot more

[woeful acorn]

There is an idea we should keep away from the devs

[hasty raven]

Ever seen an assassin compound?

[honest minnow]

I also have a single action army (aka the Caldwell pax) and I’m saving up to get a lever gun as well.

[hasty raven]

All that stuff, and the stuff on Armoreds, are cocoons

The devs confirmed that Grunts metamorphose into other forms, so I'm not making it up

[woeful acorn]

I have a ruger clone of a saa in .45 and a .38.

[hasty raven]

And the cocoon stuff isn't just in Assassin compounds, it's a part of the terrain in some places

[honest minnow]

Mines an uberti.

In 45LC

[cold idol]

Too little of it

And not exactly cocoons

[hasty raven]

Well you're going against the devs' words now

You can even see people that are still cocooned in the stuff in some places

[icy brook]

My take is the same, wretched bolt work and trigger pull, but always functional

[cold idol]

No, it's you who are taking them to the extremes

If every grunt was to turn there wouldnt be so many walking around

[hasty raven]

there's so many walking around because they still need to eat to get the necessary mass...

That's like saying caterpillars shouldn't exist because they should all just metamorphose

[cold idol]

Eat the necessary mass

While chunks of them are missing

[hasty raven]

Exactly..?

Is that supposed to be a gotcha

The devs outright stated that they cocoon and turn into the other monsters

[noble scarab]

Speaking of being roided up I’ve always been a fan of the idea that the hunter serum or ritual causes the hunters to gain more strength and durability than a normal person, similar to the hunters in bloodborne

[hasty raven]

that would make sense

kills man in single punch with Dusters...

Explodes (rotting) heads in one punch

[cold idol]

Possible

But not to anime levels

[noble scarab]

For sure not to anime levels, but more so than your average person

[junior pecan]

This is borderline confirmed when you consider the HP differential in earlier stages of development

[woeful acorn]

Survives a shot to the chest from a 45-70

[icy brook]

You only need one lung in Hunt

[kindred solstice]

Crab gun is the best gun in the game

[raw gust]

this is actually reasonable, though irl it wouldn't be consistent

[kindred solstice]

Legendary hunters feel like they're pay to lose half the time

[wet island]

redshirt agrees but doesnt care

[rain plinth]

I make em so mad they got no swagg

[amber onyx]

So what was the old story of the pearl plantation?

[woeful acorn]

Bet you I could with my work shoe, I just built this a few days ago

[molten forge]

While rare, there are instances of a single punch killing during altercations

And that's without dusters

So them being slightly stronger due to Inoculum would greatly enhance that

[sharp schooner]

Well, in fact they did know. Lore tells us the inoculation of women was taboo in the world of Hunt specifically because women could get pregnant and it was stated somewhere (probably in the meathead entries) that inoculation of a pregnant woman leads to something horrible. The current in-game meathead was born from one such hunter who concealed their pregnancy upon inoculation and then gave birth to it.

And, as also stated in the lore, all other instances of meatheads are replications of the original just like the bosses and the hives etc. The specifics of their creation this way is never (to my knowledge) stated exclusively, but like you said, it is exclusively stated that grunts cocoon in that beehive-like material to become other types of monsters (armoreds being the only visibly obvious evolution). So... believe what we may.

However, have we been told exclusively what other monsters are the grunts able to transform into by cocooning? Haven't read every entry myself, although more than there's left, but I don't recall the lore being clear about that. Just that they do, and that the special zeds are replications à'la sculptor. The rest is speculation as far as I know.

[noble scarab]

We haven't been told, but its assumed they cocoon into all the other types, except for maybe hellhounds

i think immolators are both replicated and created

anyone with enough fiery devotion that is exposed to the corruption can become an immolator

[stoic leaf]

Can hunters create a spark with the snap of their fingers? The animations for the firebombs look like it

[icy brook]

I think they are flicking the match sealed to the bomb but I could be mistaken

[remote sail]

I'm tryna unlock the entries so I can read em my self seems like a legit story

[hasty raven]

The inoculation of women wasn't taboo until they realized what could happen if one got pregnant. A few of the very first Hunters in the Louisiana branch were women

"When our AHA chapter was first founded many, many years ago, there were but few female initiates. Three were initiated, and they thrived as well as any who have chosen to bear such a burden. However, after a time, it was found that one of these initiates was with child. Though we did not know it, this condition in the Initiated is extremely dangerous..."

This seems to imply that the creation of Meatheads through pregnancy in Hunters is something new to the Louisiana 'chapter' of the AHA, and therefore somehow unique to the Sculptor's corruption. They only banned women from joining after realizing this, and later they allowed women back in because they secretly made the inoculum sterilize new Hunters because a pregnant woman joined disguised as a man. They decided sterilizing every Hunter was better so that women could join and that there was no chance someone would get around the restriction

If Meatheads were always a result of pregnant Hunters regardless of the nature of the Hunt, surely somewhere they would have realized this sooner, but instead it states that they only learned of it when the Louisiana incident began

[real hinge]

If anyone is interested in learning more about the spider’s lore my latest Youtube video is up. Channel name - Matterpiller (I will link the video in the content creator group)

[junior pecan]

Unless the innoculum originates around ‘95, and was a response to the louvent.

Honestly its an icky topic but I bet it would’ve been of much greater utility to just perform an abortion procedure sometime in the third trimester.

[hasty raven]

The reason they probably couldn't is because the host mother go super wacko powerful and crazy

She probably wouldn't let them, and they wouldn't be able to force it

[cold idol]

They would probably 100% attempt to abort the child

With the mother

[bold tiger]

Only the first was needed

After all one woman turned into a hive and they all look identical

[hasty raven]

What does that have to do with anything

[bold tiger]

Only one female hunter got pregnant to produce the first meathead, the rest are just like the hives immolators etc

[hasty raven]

I'm saying that they would have been starting to sterilize female Hunters long before the Louisiana incident if pregnancy reacted so badly with the inoculum

The point of the discussion is whether or not Meatheads are unique to the Louisiana incident or not

[bold tiger]

I think the lore just says people were careful, I dunno wrap their heads to prevent a meathead. Either that or female hunters didn't go

[hasty raven]

There was no restriction of female Hunters at the beginning of the Louisiana incident

The Monstrorvm, in an official address from the then-director of the AHA, states that three women were some of the first Hunters to enter the Louisiana chapter of the AHA. One of them got pregnant after being inoculated and produced a Meathead, which led to women being banned. Decades later, the pregnant wife of a Hunter wanted to join her husband's work and so they disguised her as a man and had her inoculated. They decided to just make the inoculum sterilize Hunters altogether to prevent it from happening again, which allowed them to allow women back into their ranks

[bold tiger]

It doesn't say she produced a meathead, just a demon of some sort, no description of leeches.

Each one is different probably

[hasty raven]

tbf they didn't describe it at all

[bold tiger]

Yeah but I guess since they killed it it wasn't a problem anymore

Took 12 hunters out, I wonder how much mr mini meathead would

Actually

They say founded "Many Many years ago"

[hasty raven]

It's possible each was a different result. Either way, doesn't perclude that the pregnancy reaction with the inoculum is heavily implied to be unique to the Louisiana incident

[bold tiger]

I doubt it would be unique since it is the American hunter association

[hasty raven]

It specifies the Louisiana chapter of the AHA though

Hmm, I guess not. It only says 'our chapter'

[bold tiger]

Depending on how much they mean by many who knows

[hasty raven]

Still, it's super unlikely that this branch of the AHA was the first Hunter organization to realize getting pregnant ends horribly across the whole world and through their whole history

[bold tiger]

The writings are usually unclear

Could be that they didn't have the innoculum beforehand

So without demonblood or whatever they wouldn't have problems

Since you can fight the monsters without the innoculum just don't get any of them in you

Which in like 50 years from the game basically anybody could fight them

[hasty raven]

I think it would be a major point to specify the problem began with the introduction of an inoculum and not that the problem began with the new chapter. Besides, some form of immunity is necessary. It's not like a normal disease where you can wear a mask and be fine, it's a spiritual corruption too. Simply being in the affected area would slowly turn you. That's why the AHA was so surprised by the Redneck's resilience, being owed to 'sheer stupidity and stubborness'

Stupidity and stubborness doesn't resist disease, but it'd resist a mind-based corruption

[icy brook]

His resistance may be like something out of Steven King’s the Tommyknockers, where there is a resilience to the physical corruption through some means, as well as strength against the mental degradation

He might have something in his blood in addition to functional idiocy

[tender panther]

yoooo i found the obelisk. so does this make it canon that aliens exist in Hunt Showdown?

[potent merlin]

I reckon it's more or less just an easter egg of... well, the obelisk that they found in Idaho or Arizona... or hol' up where the fuck was it

[sudden glacier]

it was multiple spots

most likely a prank

that or necrons are getting ready to re-take the galaxy a few thousand years early

[molten forge]

Easter eggs in-game don't make things canon, considering there is a giant rubber duck and the DeLorean in other maps too.

[sharp schooner]

Thanks, I stand corrected :)

[sharp schooner]

Although I seem to remember there was some ambiguity in the earlier discussion about how the monsters are created, part of why I brought up that it's never clarified how the "special" grunts like hives and meatheads and immolators are created.

Not to dispute any theory, really, but to make a point that what we have is in large part just theory crafting. What we do know, is that grunts cocoon to become other monsters, and that hives (and other specials? Of this I'm actually not sure if it's ever expressly stated?) are replications of the original one. Nowhere - to my knowledge - is it stated that any other immolator than the original is anything or anyone but a replica of the original, whatever that means... Nor hive nor meathead, and so on. So any connections or hypotheses we make that deviate from established facts, have nothing to do with canon lore, however intriguing...

I think that part of discussion is what Nibblewerfer was referring to? The original creation and replicas thereafter.

[edgy aspen]

Well, given that the sculptor is similar to a Lovecraftian dimensional break kind of thing, the Obelisk isn't far fetched.

[hasty raven]

The fact that the Hives and Meatheads are replicas is heavily implied. The daughter of the original Hive, being interviewed by the AHA, says that 'every Hive has her mother's face', and Huff explains the sudden appearance of a new type of monster that Hunters began calling Meatheads

[rotund ferry]

I thought this was a reference to 2001 a space odyssey

Given the fact they obviously love cinema references

[sudden glacier]

the map would've been in development during the "appearance" of the obelisk irl

[bold tiger]

It's a reference to a more recent triangular metal statue that showed up in the middle of utah or something

[nocturne wharf]

There's similar mirror like obelisks all over the world. Found in most countries, even in backwater ones like mine. It's more of a meme at this point than a reference to anything. And especially not to 2001 since that one was black, not mirror like

[cold idol]

Damn necrons

[sudden glacier]

at least it isn't the Tyranids

[agile sigil]

Sooo… question, the butcher is just a meathead right? So where are his leaches? All dead from the fire he produces or what

[cold idol]

Read his lore pages

He's basically stuffed meathead come to life

[agile sigil]

Ohhhh

I completely forgot those existed!

I’m just now getting back into the game after like a year

Because I got a better pc

And now I can actually play

So

I kinda forgot

But cool thanks!

[cold idol]

"You can’t help but feel the sculptor is working with the devil, or something harsher..."

What's harsher than the devil?

||God?||

[agile fox]

The devil but he‘s a bear with a chainsaw

[tardy vortex]

A very disturbing line of philosophical thinking is that if God is omnipotent then He should not allow evil to happen. So if evil exists is He really omnipotent? One possible solution to this seeming paradox is to say that he (lower-case letter because it's now hypothetical) is omnipotent and evil.

As for what's worse than the devil. Pffft. Two devils. 🙂

A male and a female.

[cold idol]

I tip my fedora to you, one atheist to another

[tardy vortex]

Wait, no. Maybe I believe in an evil god an cheer him / her / it on!

But all the clues are there. You know, all the murdering of people and the throwing of tantrums...

[earnest jungle]

My favorite answer to the Question of Evil is probably the oldest which comes from the book of Job: "Do I look like God to you? How should I know why God does what he does!?!"

[oak nymph]

This is so on topic, wow, fedora bois. XD

[bold tiger]

Wrong channel, though I bet someone could concoct a lore reason.

[oak nymph]

Uh, the hunter injection stuff going wrong, maybe? XD

[bold tiger]

I would say they spent too much time cumulatively in the Bayou

Either that or the hunter decided to run off because they knew they made it one hunt, and scampered off with the equipment to sell and retire on their own.

[plain zenith]

Maybe the "devil" is a higher beeing. If you think about it, the sculptor influence is kinda limited because it is unknown to most of the people. Maybe a higher beeing from this other dimension is ruling the sculptor.

[hasty raven]

It's higher beings all the way down

[empty owl]

it could be that this "devil" is actually a fault in the human condition that made the sculptor's influence more susceptible

i.e. schizophrenic rage and other violent mental illnesses

[icy brook]

Would that make Moses a paragon of human wellness 😳

“It ain’t much but it’s an honest psyche”

[cold idol]

Blessed is the mind too small for doubt

Like our friend @hasty raven's here

[hasty raven]

what

are you God Pretender's alt

[sudden glacier]

I believe it is

[cold idol]

🧐 🧐 🧐

[hasty raven]

yes

[cold idol]

I think you are just too lovable a person

lol

[hasty raven]

Ok

[cold idol]

Come on, I was just joking at your expense

Dont write me off as a hater

[hasty raven]

I don't know where it came from though

[earnest jungle]

Has anyone unlocked the mastery for the Marksman Vetterli?

[cold idol]

Any of the new weapons for that matter

[junior pecan]

I have scottfield 1

[earnest jungle]

I got scottfield 1 and all of the custom ammo for it

[noble scarab]

Anything cool?

[icy brook]

Anything about Hunt’s S&M proxy?

[earnest jungle]

Yeah it was used by a serial killer who is probably a hunter

Scottfield Incendiary

Scottfield FMJ

Scottfiled Mastery 1/2

[earnest jungle]

Have we run into any Anna Lane Croix or Damien Moreau’s in the lore before?

Lore wise the entries we're missing are: Scofield Part 2. Veterlli Marksman, Veterlli Silence, Label Apature, and both of the Bow masteries.

[brittle nest]

Scofield Part 2

[empty owl]

yup, i'm sure that this so called "louisiana slugger" is the one we saw from the harvest trailer

although it would be rather plausible that the slugger himself somehow escaped to the swamps and never to be seen again while waiting for his trial

although it would be odd considering that we're talking about a serial killer turned into a hunter but then again, we have monroe and cain

also talking about serial killers, some of the last halloween event's weapons skins were attributed to a local serial killer

crytek could possibly retcon their existence into being the weapon of the slugger considering that one of the weapons were a romero hatchet

however, i do feel that it could be a different serial killer since the slugger's modus operandi goes around the shotgun slug and that alone

[earnest jungle]

Actually his modus operandi was Full Metal Jacket Slugs.

[jovial basin]

gatorman

[hollow lava]

So im writing a fanfic based in the hunt universe and i have two questions for now, when did it start and how do people become grunts(thru bite or scratch or something else)

[earnest jungle]

The origins of the Louisiana Outbreak aren't clear, nor how exactly it spreads. The uncertainty of what is happening, why it's happening, and how it can be combated is part of the horror of the setting

People can only guess at to who is causing all of this and why.

Some say it's an entity called the sculptor, some say it's the Lord of the Dead, and others still say it's the devil himself.

And how does the darkness spread? Is it spread by the flies and mouths that fill the victim's bodies? Or was that merely a delusion of Doctor Reed?

Could it be Miasma, the polluted air and unhealthy vapors that the Plague Doctor was obsessed with that caused the darkness?

Or perhaps the darkness was always there, hidden away inside of us, just lurking, waiting for something to triger it's emergence.

[junior pecan]

So don’t bother writing on the topic. Take the central themes of interest to you and run with them.

It is worth writing on the themes and ideas of the setting, but not on the setting itself

[earnest jungle]

Ignore Prowler. Absolutely write on the topic. The lack of certainty in why and how that this is happening is perfect for cosmic horror.

[hollow lava]

I have a whole character idea and story based on hunt, and already am writting the first chapter

[icy brook]

Its awesome you’re doing this, Hunt has so much story telling potential

[hollow lava]

I have alot of ideas for the world, everything from corruption to bars and hang out spots for hunters

[hollow lava]

Question, how does one get the dark sight thing and how do the syringes work(sorry for misspeling)

I saw somewhere thaz its a ritual of some kind?

[junior pecan]

Innoculum is a ritual and pharmaceutical practice that immunizes hunters to corruption by means of distilled demon blood. A physical manifestation of some entity is brought forth from the other side by means of ritual sacrifice, ritualistically bound and trapped on our side, then chemically reduced to the innoculum.

[wet sparrow]

Yeah the sheriff performs it with the prisoners who signed up to go hunting

[junior pecan]

Alternatively, just do it secondhand using the blood of someone already innoculated

[wet sparrow]

They drink some blood that tastes like a mouthful of needles

Atleast if you believe the nagant entries

[junior pecan]

There’s only one formal theory as to how it works, but iirc rexli and others have undocumented theories of their own

[hollow lava]

Mhm, and how does the peeps who hire hunters(cant realy spell asosiation) go about this

And how do they hire hunters

[wet sparrow]

They hire whoever is dumb enough to join

[junior pecan]

Circumstance. People show up from all over looking for work, and rumor travels of high paying bounties down south.

[wet sparrow]

Or strong enough

Example