lore-discussion

[molten forge]

So the DeSalle family would be rather influential in general, and if they have ties to the AHA they would very likely be influential in their circles too. If Huff is doing things they don't like, then it wouldn't be too far-fetched to say they want him gone.

On the other hand, they could have been supporters of Huff as well, which would then put them in opposition to Lynch

[ruby current]

That's the only mention of a DeSalle in the entries right? the legendary Sparks

[molten forge]

But their proximity to Jackson, Louisiana definitely means they had some form of a hand in it.

[molten forge]

It specifically talks about the "Elder DeSalle Brother"

Meaning there's more.

[ruby current]

Oh yes

[molten forge]

So it's a family.

[ruby current]

I'm quite amused by the fact that the Jackson in Louisiana actually has a correctional institute. Like, the town isn't that big

and the river running next to it is called Asylum Creek

[molten forge]

My money is still 100% on your theory

And I have changed my name in its honor.

[ruby current]

Also, the new Romero legendary belonging to Monroe has "Property of East Louisiana Parish" written on the side.

[molten forge]

Implying?

[ruby current]

The "county" where Jackson is East Feliciana Parish

It just proves that's exactly the Jackson with the right Asylum haha

[molten forge]

Then that's definitely based on said facility.

[ruby current]

The pillars man, what do they meaaan.

There is a church called Locust Grove in the Natchez area as well...

[molten forge]

We're the Pillar Men.

Locust Grove

Sounds like something that can be tied to Assassin

[ruby current]

It's the location on the side of the legendary golden Vandal

[molten forge]

Oh fuck, really?

[ruby current]

Yupp, it says Locust Grove, 1895

[molten forge]

Honestly this just keeps adding to the weight of Natchez being the location of the third map

[ruby current]

Yeah at the very least some source of inspiration

[molten forge]

Also means they have been teasing the new map for a long-ass time.

[ruby current]

The geography of the area has the classic swampy places like the Bayou map in the game, yet there is hills on the west side more towards where this "Locust Grove" church and where the real Malmaison mansion is

The area is one of the few places there where mining and quarries are in fact a thing

Ahhh also, check this out

[molten forge]

You fucking called it

[ruby current]

I was looking around the other teased pictures, the ones not in the general announcements

there is one with a mine compound, and one with an oil company

the extract from that novel specifically states that these DeSalle had among the minerary deeds stuff related to oil

This stuff is fun. I'm hoping, out of all this, that the two natives teased are from the two different tribes, choctaw and natchez

Natchez feel like the guys that would fit Hunt's lore very well. They were into dark stuff, like ritual human sacrifices/volontary suicides

[molten forge]

Honestly, this has a load of weight for a theory.

I'd say you can drop the tin foil hat on this one, as it has way too many coincidences

[ruby current]

I even went as far as to check for native warpaint

to check if the teased charactes belong to something specific

but nothing so far

[molten forge]

The Pillars Mason, what do they mean?

Pillarius O'Pillar

[ruby current]

That was me this entire time

[molten forge]

Honestly, you could say it was the cornerstone of this whole theory

[ruby current]

Oh oh oh

Choctaw Nation flag has bow and arrow as a symbol.

[molten forge]

And the Natchez one?

[ruby current]

Nah that one has just a weird symbol that looks almost celtic

[molten forge]

Ahh

[ruby current]

But man, they teased this Plantation House, and it appears consistently

like it's super important

[molten forge]

AND it's linked to the quarries

[ruby current]

Natchez is literally THE PLACE of such houses. It should be one of oldest (if not the oldest) town on the Mississippi river

Plus if you cross the bridge on the river you're immediately in Louisiana

What I wonder at this point is: who's saying "HEADING NORTH TO DESALLE"

[molten forge]

It would also be likely that the Natchez people would have knowledge of beings like the Sculptor, given their penchant for rituals

I think it's Lynch saying that

Either Lynch, Hardin or Dr John

Or perhaps even all of them

[ruby current]

not Finch?

[molten forge]

Not sure how Finch ties in to later events

But Lynch has been in the spotlights lately

[ruby current]

I am confused then, I never understood the way it all unfolded

I thought Huff died (presumably) from Lynch and Finch took his place

[molten forge]

Dr John would be a very likely candidate imo

[ruby current]

and then there's that weird thing from Collins about Lynch being banished from the Twins?

[molten forge]

True.

[ruby current]

Actually I now recall

when the Twins deal with Lynch (that I still can't remember what is she supposed to bo? human? demon?)

at the end it says they go to find Finch

[molten forge]

In that case

Could it be the Twins with said message?

We don't have enough information to know who made the message

But Hardin and Dr John (and I suppose the Reverend) are depicted heavily in the trailer, so it could imply it's one or all of them that have the message.

The first two are big players in the AHA.

[ruby current]

Ohohoh found a Natchez tribe reference in the lore :3

[molten forge]

Though that Jackson, Louisiana is directly south of Natchez, it could also imply Lynch, Finch or even Monroe.

[molten forge]

Whot

[ruby current]

Wolves are naturally indigenous to the Americas, and therefore also the domesticated hound. In Antoine-Simon Le Page du Pratz's Historie de la Louisiane, he remarks how the indigenous Natchez people used domesticated dogs a great deal, commonly as beasts of burden to transport trade goods. As with all things, there is a darker past to be discovered. Le Page du PRatz reports on the day he heard of the massacre at the Post des Natchez. After more than a decade of peaceful coexistence, the French commandant had demanded land from the Natchez. In retaliation, "les Français des Natchez ont été tués par les chiens de Sauvages," the French were killed by the Savage's dogs.

Albeit, my French is not what it was, and my ability to translate may be marred by the years. But clearly here, these unleashed dogs savagely massacred the colonists. I can only imagine the braying hounds of hell bearing down on the settlers. Out in the bayou must still live the ancestors of such dogs, when they come back with stories of Hellhounds roaming the woods in vicious packs.

Cerberus comes to mind, the quintessential mythological hound of the underworld. In a cursory examination of my library, I produced a list too lengthy to enumerate here. In overview, the majority of myths emerging across the world depict dogs as the loyal friends and helpers of men, particularly those of Native Americans, always our first port of call.

[molten forge]

Well I'll be damned

[ruby current]

But that is to be expected, of course if they add natives it will be from the local tribes of Louisiana

[molten forge]

True, though it does imply that the Natchez are more deeply involved perhaps

At least when it comes to the hellhounds

Then the town of Natchez also ties in neatly to existing lore, perhaps as the origin of early hellhounds, though that would conflict with the first possible hellhound being Bunny

Thus the Natchez has more intrinsic knowledge of the Sculptor, or the realm the Sculptor originates from.

[ruby current]

Well, they are the "locals", people who have been there for a longer time than the european colonists

we know the "land" has something to do with the whole event, like in Salter's transformation or the Redneck's resistance

[novel saffron]

Wasn't there a mention of a possible hellhound attack occurred during the war? I don't know from where I get this impression, might be making it up

[ruby current]

I started perusing Natchez folklore

check this out

there is a Natchez legend about two twins that fight monsters hahaha

there is also mentions of a giant monstrous snake, again stuff that you find over and over related to the Twins in the book entries

and again, there's the Tie-Snakes

water spirits that live underwater and are feared for their ability to catch humans and drag them underwater (inspiration for water devils?)

[novel saffron]

"These mythical twins, born when their pregnant mother was killed by a monster"

[molten forge]

Wait

Could the Twins be Natchez?

@ruby current

Or are they already named and such?

[ruby current]

I don't see why not

[molten forge]

It could explain why they have "power"

Aka "magic"

Were the twins male and female btw?

Or is it not mentioned

[novel saffron]

Both girls

[ruby current]

I believe they're intended to be males

the ones of the legend I mean

[molten forge]

Slight deviation then

[novel saffron]

I mean this is kind of talked about in the special ammo entries

[molten forge]

Yeah, I'm on the bus atm so I can't bring up much of the lore right now

But either way, then the twins probably aren't the two native americans seen in the trailer

[novel saffron]

Where RN says that Collins (who told the story of the Twins birth in Bad as They Seem) might have taken words from local tribes and used them to its own ends

[ruby current]

ahhh yes

[novel saffron]

So we know there's some kind of correlation there

[molten forge]

Then they still might have correlation to Natchez legends

[ruby current]

Does anybody have the Terminus Handcannon book page somewhere?

[novel saffron]

They're pinned, it's a pdf file with all the entries. You can also find them on the Hunt Wiki

[ruby current]

"The Mother left them before they were born. Internal bleeding. External bleeding. The father left them shortly afterwards. It wasn't the labor that killed her."

[molten forge]

Also @ruby current you mention a lot of stuff with snakes in Natchez legend, there's a few legendaries related to snakes such as Snake Seer and Rattlesnake

[ruby current]

Snake Seer is related to the Twins

[molten forge]

Yeah

And Rattlesnake?

[ruby current]

And basically half of the Twins story is about big snakes haha

Rattlesnake I can't remember honestly

[molten forge]

Snake boss when?

[ruby current]

I think to Russell Chambers

yeah rattlesnake is the nagant, for sure it has to do with the Chambers guy

[molten forge]

Wait

Wasn't there something with tree snakes found in trees in the bayou? @ruby current

Like some trees have people submerged in them, sort of coiled around by what looks to be something leatherish like a snake

There were a few of those around the map

[ruby current]

I can't remember anything of the sort 😦

I'm lloking for the Terminus Handcannon entry

[molten forge]

When I'm home I'll check the maps for a bit

[ruby current]

Cause it's supposed to conclude the "Big Cat" story, which again could be another Natchez legend

[molten forge]

Felis?

[ruby current]

ohhh and this: a giant mythological bird of prey with deadly feathers made of metal... scrapbeak inspiration?

[ruby current]

it's also related to Felis, yes

[molten forge]

Oh that sounds like Scrapbeak yeah

Though crows are not exactly birds of prey

And scrapbeak is more related to crows

[ruby current]

yeah true

[novel saffron]

Rattlesnake is Chambers weapon, Sheriff Hardin mate

[molten forge]

Though Natchez legends do correlate with quite some hunt stuff so far

[dire knoll]

New map is outside Louisiana, yay or nay?

[molten forge]

Just north of Louisiana if Sleepius' theory is correct

Straight north of Jackson, Louisiana, where Huff's Asylum is

In the town of Natchez

Where the DeSalle family owns a lot of stuff

[ruby current]

something I haven't seen discussion about is the scene of the trailer in which wheat fields are burning

maybe that's a new mechanic teased, being able to burn crops and field?

[tall lava]

On the gameplay stream atm

[young skiff]

you beat me to it

[tall lava]

Oh

It says "no stream sniping" and it's on top of the region select

Nevermind

[exotic juniper]

the hwhat

[tall lava]

[young skiff]

lol

[molten forge]

What does it say?

No stream sniping?

Lmao

@ruby current A cropburning mechanic. Now imagine you dealing with immolator in the crops, and someone shoots that fucker

What does the "burnt" role even do

[exotic juniper]

muted

[molten forge]

Ahh, aight

[pastel vine]

Is it worth working for lore is lore worth work ?

[tardy spear]

The lore is good but actually unlocking the entries yourself will take a huge amount of time.

So I'd say no, just look it up.

[neon kernel]

[thin kraken]

I darksight trailer i saw someone looking like black coat is dead. So i assume it was black coat. Is he dead in canon lore or was it just for trailer

?

[kind fractal]

He died to the twins in the lore

but it could be before he was killed?

Or is it just gameplay where it just shows him even though he is alredy dead like half the legendary hunters are dead

[thin kraken]

Half the legendary hunters are already dead??

Wow didn't knew that before

[kind fractal]

most are dead in the lore im pretty sure

[thin kraken]

I really need to start reading the lore

[kind fractal]

In the pinned comments there is a doc containing all the lore

known

[thin kraken]

Thanks

[kind fractal]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit?usp=sharing

I think this is the main doc from there

starts of a list on the characters and if they are alive/dead/missing/etc

[novel saffron]

It's most likely a scene from "Bad as They Seem", as it takes place in, what looks like, a blacksmith workshop in the trailer as well

[kind fractal]

Were the twins still in the balcksmith workshop after they killed black coat

i forgot

[novel saffron]

Yep, they killed him just after the Black Coat kills their uncle

[kind fractal]

I thought somone else killed their uncle

but I read everything and am starting to get the facts confused

too much for ma brain

[novel saffron]

Yeah, understandable it seems impossible to keep up with all the little snippets of different stories 😅

[kind fractal]

The lore of the twins gets all strange with the snake stuff and got a little confused at that

[cloud bobcat]

Btw, from where is Bad as They Seem? In like, where it was released?

[novel saffron]

It's a collection of different weapon masteries

[cloud bobcat]

Oh, cool, thanks

[earnest jungle]

Do we have screen shots of all the trials lore flavor texts?

If not I’m going to go around collecting them

[jagged tide]

Caracass Runner seems to be a complicated fiugure, we have contradicting infos on him. In some texts hes described to be a cold-blooded killer, in other he seems to be quite altruistic (he tried to rescue prisoners from the prison when everything went to hell). He is something like the main shopping-npc for the Hunters: They come to him for equipment (for example Russel Chambers in the nagant-entries). As said he was/is also a smuggler, smuggling stuff in carcasses. The slaugtherhouse was one of his hiding places for his ware, and the trial seems to suggest he killed a meathead there (probably the meathead, that was later found by the taxodermist and turned into the Butcher). He also had a bloodfeud with the Night-of-the-Hunter-cult (one of the many factions in the Bayou, lead by the "Night-Seer") - but it is not clear if he started it (as a cold calculating plotter who tried to kill competitors), or was dragged into it (Martini-Henry entries). Since the Birthplace of the Butcher is closely related to him, and his outfit somehow resembles a few aspects of the Butcher there might be a connection.

acutally: No. Many texts are from Howard Black, but he is NOT the researcher writing down the notes - you can clearly see that in the first Assassin entries, where the researcher is talking about Black. Its a bit confusing, because Black's skin is called "the Researcher". The notes of the researcher in the books seems to write MUCH later, iirc someone deducted that he cant be writing those notes before the 1970s... mby its even present time.

[earnest jungle]

I only just made the connection between Salter’s Pork and the Salter Family.

[jagged tide]

Snake-seer is the weapon of one of the twins, the one who meets the giant snake. Rattlesnake is the weapon of Russle chambers, who got "rescued" by a snake in the desert (Nagant entries) - Harding's reaction and censorship on his remark of an episode between him and Lynch seems to imply, that Harding had some kind of mystical meeting with a snake as well.

[earnest jungle]

Or he just didn’t trust Lynch.

[jagged tide]

Here is some more: The Archaelogist is led to the Bayou by the Hopi-legend of "Destruction of Palatkwapi". Guess what this story is about? The City of Palatkwapi gets destroyed in an apocalyptic flood. 2 silbings stay in the ruined city, abandoned by there parents and get rescued by a giant snake. Funny, eh? There is a lot of motives in the Hunt lore, that are repeating over and over again. One Legendary is "Lioronas heir". Liorona is the evil ghost of a woman who drowned her children. Abandoned silbings, water and snakes are everywhere in the lore. Another repeating motive is patricide/matricide.

[jagged tide]

Might be related to the Bird Lynch summoned in her showdown with the twins as well. Or did she summon ScrapBeak?

[jagged tide]

Would be smart not to trust it/her. XD But he said he had a similar experience as Chambers. And in the execution scene its said, that his eyes were like those of a snake. There might be a relation between Hardin and the snake-spirit.

Especially, since Chambers is one of his henchman.

[earnest jungle]

It wasn’t Hardin who had eyes like a snake it was Hunter

[jagged tide]

Oh! my bad

Quoting most stuff from memory.

[jagged tide]

That would be really nice 🙂 you can find alot of the lore here as well: https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Lore

[novel saffron]

I assumed he was talking about John, his cellmate that he was about to kill, when he describes the eyes

[cloud bobcat]

She didn't really summoned it. More like transformed a corpse briefly

[jagged tide]

Was it a corpse? I thought it was one of those puppets you find all over the Bayou...

[cloud bobcat]

"They met purchase there, and pulled
from the Earth a man held in her clutches like a doll, and seemingly dead."

I believe it's a corpse, but they call it effigy cause of the way she uses it

She revives it and then passes the transformations (?) Of her body to the corpse

As far as I understood it

[jagged tide]

"As the snake sunk its fangs into the bird’s breast, it shrieked, shedding crimson feathers like tear drops, shrinking as it did, until it lay on the ground,** a lifeless ragged little doll man once more**." FFS Collins, a bit more clearly plz! 😉

[rotund ferry]

Can we have a lore about the shitty EU servers please

:D

[cloud bobcat]

Yeah, the whole thing is kinda ambiguous

[rotund ferry]

LMAO

[cloud bobcat]

But I still give more weight to the middle parts, where it says about a dead man

As another argument - have we seen a precedent of transforming non-living things?

[jagged tide]

You might be right. I just always wondered what all those dolls in the Bayou are about, and that episode seemed to be... well not an explanation, but a hint towards them. - thats prbly why I focused on the "doll" part.

[cloud bobcat]

Voodoo dolls probably?

I can't really recall them from the game rn

[jagged tide]

No, more like mannequins but smaller.

[cloud bobcat]

And if Lych is something from the other side, than it will make sense for her to be able to do stuff with living things

[cloud bobcat]

Hm. I will need to take a look then we will come back to the game with mates

[jagged tide]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1755820678479073562/B6E30A6712EEC57B162B9C39D8FF256C5D96391D/

[cloud bobcat]

Oh, this thingies

[jagged tide]

But there are alot more of those. Like.... everywhere!

But might just be eastereggs like the ducks...

[cloud bobcat]

Yeah

I would say more like creepy ambient decorations

[jagged tide]

Just had to think of them when I first read the bad-as-they-seem-story

[cloud bobcat]

Maybe someone more enlightened will shed the light on them

I have zero idea

Apart from them being creepy

[jagged tide]

Yeah. With so little infos on the lore its easy to "see" connections where there arent any.

[cloud bobcat]

Don't show the picture to Sleepy, he will find square pillars in it

[jagged tide]

But I have a theory, that the sculptor is possessing the body of a child... which might be in relation to those dolls...

[jagged tide]

😆

Kay, time for bed. cya around.

[cloud bobcat]

Heading there myself. Nighty nighty

[novel saffron]

The crimson feather bit sounds, yet again, like reference to a Natchez myth, one about birds of prey that would take away kids

[earnest jungle]

I have all of the screenshots plus a chasser

I’ll post them after I finish editing them in an hour or so

[earnest jungle]

Here's the First Batch: Stillwater Bayou

Alain Fish and Son's

Alice Farm

Blanchet Graves

Catfish Grove

Cyprus Huts

Darrow Livestock

Davant Ranch

Healing Waters Church

Pitching Crematorium

Chapel of Madona Noir

Lockbay Docks

Port Reeker

Reynard Mill and Lumber

Scupper Lake

Slaughterhouse

And Stillwater Bend

[earnest jungle]

And Now for Lawson Delta:

Arden Parish

Blanc Brinery

Bradley & Craven Brickworks

C&A Lumber

Fort Carmick

Goddard Docks

Golden Achers

Hemlock and Hide

Iorn Works

Lawson Station

Maw Battery

Nicholls Prison

Saltr's Pork

Sweetbell Flour

Windy Run

Wolfshead Arsenal

And now for the chaser:

[exotic juniper]

how fitting

[earnest jungle]

Also

ITS THE TREES! THE TREES ARE ALIVE THEY’RE BREATHING!

THE TREES ARE POSSESSED BY THE SCULPTOR!

[exotic juniper]

are you just LoreBook.pdf?

[earnest jungle]

Not entirely but I do have lots of free time.

AND I SAW THE TREES TO THE SOUTH OF ARDEN PARISH MOVING!

THE TRUNKS WERE PULSATING LIKE THEY WERE BREATHING IN AND OUT!

[pliant holly]

@earnest jungle Please refrain from the excessive use of caps

[earnest jungle]

The trees are alive.

[oak nymph]

Wait, like in game??

[earnest jungle]

Yes in game.

[oak nymph]

Can you shoot a screenshot? I wanna check that out, that's freaky

[earnest jungle]

I was south of Arden taking cover behind the tree and I saw it’s trunk moving.

When I have the chance I’ll go into trials mode to see if I can find it again

[earnest jungle]

I spent 10 minutes searching to the south of Arden Parish for over 10 minutes but a couldn't find the tree.

Maybe it was just a bug.

Or maybe my eyes were just playing tricks on me

But I swear I saw a tree moving

[pliant moth]

not sure if this has been discussed a ton but has anyone realized the eyes of the male ghillie are bright blue all over? Pretty sure they used to be white and normal like everyone else's. Also been like this for months now

[molten forge]

So the Golden Acres trial talks about the Mountain Man being taken in by a family of brothers. Anyone got a hint as to what family this might be?

[glacial schooner]

is any of this on the wiki

[earnest jungle]

Yes it’s the three brothers in the Springfield Lore.

[molten forge]

So they're not named per se

Just three brothers

[earnest jungle]

No since the two people recounting the story already knew who they were they didn’t write down their names.

They were three brothers and the first three to hunt in trios.

So let us call them the Unholy Trinity.

[molten forge]

I wonder if we'll get some more info on those three with the new map

[earnest jungle]

Two of the brothers killed the third in order to “Break the Oath” and they kept killing their third over and over again to do so.

What they wanted we have no idea but they wanted something and they thought sacrificing their third would get it for them.

However we also now have a good timeline for the Salter Family.

Sees Charlie Salter was a Hunter and had been a Hunter for many years before the Louisiana Outbreak.

He hoped staying away from his family would keep them safe, but in the end Hell got them anyway.

Charlies Salter returns to his family farm too late to save his family and so puts them out of their misery.

He then goes out searching for his brother William to try and protect him but the twins found him first and kill him.

William had been committed twice and had been infected for over half a year.

So if this is true then it appears that the Louisiana incident in fact began in Later 1894.

Regardless Charlie Salter seemingly drops off the face of the earth after his brother’s death.

And we can confirm that Charlie’s arrival in the bayou comes after his brother escapes his second commitment.

William escaped May 13, and Charlie doesn’t arrive until sometime in June or July.

It’s possible Charlie was the traitorous partner whom John Voelkel kills.

But there’s no evidence of that.

I suspect The Elder Salter Brother has an important role to play in all of this, and that is why we have not yet found his last two journal entries.

[ruby current]

The Dolch is squared.

[ruby current]

Good morning people. It's time for your daily dose of tin foil hat stuff, kindly offered to you by Sleepius.

I was looking around Jackson, Louisiana, given that it's one of the few real places mentioned in the lore that we can pinpoint.

The Asylum was an important part of the city, it had a central role in the area

The hospital was created by the Louisiana Legislature in 1847 and commenced operations in 1848. The hospital was originally known as the "State Insane Asylum." The location was chosen because Jackson is situated in an upland well-drained location that is relatively free of disease-bearing mosquitos, which plagued asylums in New Orleans.

Now, this I didn't expect:

Dr. John Welch Jones, a resident of Jackson, was appointed as superintendent in 1874. Jones found the treasury had no funds, the patients had no clothes to wear, and lacked the necessities of life.[4] Jones was forced to dip into his own pocket to provide operating funds for three months. He organized the strongest inmates as farm laborers and had them produce vegetables and field products for consumption in the asylum.

He purchased a brick making machine and had the inmates make bricks.[4] Having produced 3,000,000 bricks of good quality, he was able to persuade the state legislature to appropriate funds for a new building. This was followed by four more buildings.[4]

The capacity of the hospital was increased from 166 to more than 600. The hospital received 130 inmates from New Orleans in one day.[4]

Dr. Jones had a unique story, a war veteran that suffered an incident impairing his vision (he was the only survivor of an explosion that destroyed the boat he was on), and later on took the position of superintendent of the Asylum.

Now check this out:

The New Orleans Civil Sheriff transported more than 80 patients to the Insane Asylum in 1895

Dr. Jones appointed his son, Philip Huff Jones, M. D., to be assistant superintendent.

Later, he retired from his position (making Huff the new superintendent) and became a planter.

The book entry of the Bornheim Match goes as follows:

[cloud bobcat]

Oh. My. God.

Also, who is the Huffington guy, who is killed by Lynch in the twins story?

[ruby current]

Huffington is Huff, with his name changed by Collins

Collins refers to Huff as Huffington

I'm just amazed by the fact that the whole story is based on real characters as well

[cloud bobcat]

Sooo, he was stabbed by Lynch AND shot?

[cloud bobcat]

Yeah, that's super cool imo

[ruby current]

We don't know really

[cloud bobcat]

It seems to me, that twins story version would be more credible, as it told by the "narrator". In which case the gun can be an attempt to frame someone?

[cloud bobcat]

Shame the sheriff isn't named

I found a collection of 19 century Louisiana documents

I'm going on an adventure

Can someone brief me on Hardin? Does he have family and is he alive atm?

[jagged tide]

Holy Fuck! I knew, that Dr.John and Billy Story are historical persons, but this is blowing my mind.

Btw: It was confirmed again, that the lyrics in the songs of port sulphur are canon of the Hunt-lore.

Maybe more of the Legendary Hunters are taken from real life-persons...

[ruby current]

I've also found some stuff about The Phantom.

[devout cedar]

Yes

[cloud bobcat]

At this rate we will need a google doc for the irl related stuff

[ruby current]

His character is based on the "Phantom of the Opera" novel, where the so called "Phantom" is a man afflicted by a facial deformity that makes him look almost like a skull. He wears a mask to cover his face.

The author of the novel was Gaston Leroux. In Hunt, the Phantom's real name is Gus Leroux.

In the Winfield Vandal pages, the Phantom assassinates his father at a theater...

[cloud bobcat]

Well, that one was kinda obvious tbh

[novel saffron]

So I've been doing some snooping around, reading old discussions and stuff like that. One in particular caught my attention because it seemed to never lead anywhere, the "Look into the shade and you'll shall see Simon lying in the 8th circle". In Dante's Inferno, in the 8th circle 3rd pouch, there's Simon Magus famous because he offered St Peter money to acquire the ability to "give the Holy Spirit by laying on of hands"

Might be a nod to the idea that Hunters have to pay a price to acquire the Dark Sight, that when performed in-game even looks a bit like the gesture of laying hands

[cloud bobcat]

From where the lore part was?

May be something about some character trying to "bribe" some entity

[novel saffron]

From Remembering John Hayward Hunter, posted on the Hunt website

"Look into the shade and you'll shall see Simon lying in the 8th circle" is what is written in Voynich on the pictures

[cloud bobcat]

I need to look at it. I'm fairly new to the lore stuff

Btw. Do we know, who the man and the woman were in Twins' encounter with meathead?

Hmmm. M. De La Salle was exploring Louisiana in 1680s

[ruby current]

William Salter and his wife Mary

[cloud bobcat]

Oh, okay, thanks

[ruby current]

I'm still astonished from the fact that Philip Huff Jones was the real Asylum Superintendent at the time. He had a sister named Pearl, who married a wealthy planter of the area (Pearl Plantation House?)

[cloud bobcat]

This theory about plantation name seems solid

Will we see Huff's sister in lore?

It would be interesting

Honestly, lore team are absolute madlads. To piece it all together in the first place

[ruby current]

Huff himself had lands for plantations.

[novel saffron]

Sounds about right, married Mr George Keller according to wikipedia

[ruby current]

I tried looking at the legendaries to find anything that could be related

the Winfield C "Augusta" is named for his wife (which in real life was called Annabelle I believe), it bears the inscription "One of One Thousand"

His Dolch 96 Precision is called "Bedlam Lullaby". It has the name Jessica inlaid on the side, with a date under it that I can't make out since the 3D view has muddy weapons now 😦

[cloud bobcat]

Daughter?

Or a nephew

[ruby current]

I turned "DeSalle's Silence" over and over, but apart from DeSalle written on it there's not much to go on. It has a flower-looking symbol repeated over and over in the metal

It could be seen as a flower I guess, if "heading north to DeSalle" means heading to Mississippi it would even make sense since the state's simbol is a magnolia flower

But meh

[kind fractal]

Im pretty sure there was a thing referencing the inoculation and it is what gave them dark sight since they are injecting distilled demon into their veins

[cloud bobcat]

Yeah, the serum

[ruby current]

I also went to Lawson station and inspected the whole place haha not much to find, I checked the tabs for departures and arrivals, I inspected the locomotives and so on

[cloud bobcat]

I commend your dedication, Sleepy

[ruby current]

It's fun

[cloud bobcat]

Wasn't there a sneak picture of the new map in the station?

Or was it in the promo pic

[ruby current]

I'm not sure

I have found a map piece which marks lawson and includes bigger boundaries than the in game map, showing where they cut off the railroad heading north

[cloud bobcat]

There was like a framed photo somewhere some time ago

[ruby current]

but it's very hard to make out

[ruby current]

ah yes the one with many photographs printed and left on the table

[cloud bobcat]

Yeah this one

[ruby current]

which has the mines, the plantation, the oil company

[cloud bobcat]

Wait, Huff's father is in on all this AHA stuff?

First entry for bornheim has letter from father to son

[molten forge]

I mean the AHA is old iirc

[cloud bobcat]

So Huff inherited AHA leadership as well as asylum?

[ruby current]

Yes

[cloud bobcat]

Interesting

[ruby current]

It is implied that John Welch, Philip Huff's father, was also head of the AHA

[cloud bobcat]

Ok, got it

[cloud bobcat]

Another dumb question: who is Hayden Collins?

[earnest jungle]

No. The think about truth is that there are some truths that can only be conveyed through fiction. Where the spirit of the truth can be presented if not the letter. In this specific case Collins presents the spirit of the truth but not the letter of the truth. Huff was assassinated by an unknown gunman on the orders of Lynch.

[earnest jungle]

We can reasonably expect that any character who was interviewed about the Louisiana Incident survived it. Both Hardin and John Voelkel were interviewed after the Incident and so must have survived it.

[earnest jungle]

Yeah we’re pretty sure Essence of Darkness just made that up.

HOLY SHIT ITS REAL!

[cloud bobcat]

Okay, that makes sense

[cloud bobcat]

Thanks

[earnest jungle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/nmo5xw/hello_fellow_hunters_thanks_to_urachtazs_hints_i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Looks like we’ve found one of the new lore songs or at least its tune

[novel saffron]

I've been trying to solve this easter egg, I got the same 3 tracks they found and I don't know where to go next. Assuming that the dev posted that "3/4" implying there's something that we still have to find

Possibly lyrics, hopefully actually

[cloud bobcat]

Reading through the book of weapons. It looks like somewhere in the swamps there is at least one nagant officer carbine brawler. And I want it.

[devout cedar]

I will post full version of the song on YT today

[earnest jungle]

New Map Teaser

[cloud bobcat]

Gazebo from the trailer?

I would say wedding. Don't think something like birthday would be celebrated like that. Also the "happy day" in the corner

And the sudden nature of whatever happened makes me think about something people related. As infection/plague/whatever takes time.

[earnest jungle]

I’m more interested in the name.

“Seven Sisters Estate”

[ruby current]

North of New Orleans, on the other side of the lake, there is a town called Mandeville

On the shore lies the Seven Sisters Oak, with a gazebo by her side

[cloud bobcat]

How. Just how

Are you so fast, Sleepy?

[kind fractal]

estate of the twins i think they were of 7 children

[ruby current]

In the last scene from the trailer you can see the horses parked below an oak with festive decorations

[cloud bobcat]

Is there some info about the oak name?

[ruby current]

not that I could find

but is seems like the giant oak could be the result of merging of different oaks grouped together+

so maybe the name is related to the fact that there are more trees all together blended

[cloud bobcat]

It was "Doby's oak" before

Because it was on property of mrs Doby

Who was one of the seven sisters

[ruby current]

found it, yes

it is supposed to be the largest oak tree in the US

there is also a book called "Seven Sisters of Algiers"

Algiers is one of the neighborhoods of New Orleans, it's cited in the legendary heavy knife skin "Phoenix of Algiers"

[cloud bobcat]

I'm trying to find something about the Dobies, but no luck yet

I'm hoping there is some connection to be made between them and something we already know

"Another speculation is that the name is a translation of an older Choctaw Indian name that’s now forgotten. The Choctaws were residents of this area for many years before white men arrived and a tree of this size would possibly have been well known and named by them"

Another theory about the name of the oak

[ruby current]

I think it's hard to go off compound names, since they're always gonna be made up

that said, they're still sort of realistic

[earnest jungle]

There is another Seven Sisters that comes to mind

[cloud bobcat]

Yeah, but nothing else really to work with here. And I have a strong desire to dig

[ruby current]

Britain, Norway

[earnest jungle]

Massachusetts

[ruby current]

Ah the colleges

[modest heart]

I doubt it's got anything related to the Pleiades. But I'd be down for The King in Yellow

[earnest jungle]

The Mountains

[ruby current]

There is a Seven Sisters colleges founded by the Durant family in the end of 19th century

in Massachussets

but I honestly think there's nothing to crack really

[cloud bobcat]

Probably yeah

[ruby current]

even at HEADING NORTH TO DESALLE, I believe there's not much we could really find

[novel saffron]

Also if you search up Seven Sisters Estate in New Orleans' garden district, you can see some of them have square pillars

[earnest jungle]

It’s not New Orleans

Not unless this is going to be an “end of the world” update

[ruby current]

yeah I'd scrape New Orleans off

[novel saffron]

I don't think they'll ever bring us to New Orleans, it's too much work and doesn't even match with the level design they go for

[cloud bobcat]

Yeah

I doubt we will even get the town with the asylum

Or something town like

But I can see how all mentioned irl places would fit into compressed down map

[cloud bobcat]

Regarding compound names- the first sneak peek shows reeves quarry. There is a reeves willage west of new Orleans

I can't find anything about possible oil rig locations in the area yet

[ruby current]

The only thing I made out of the gazebo picture is that it's the exact opposite angle of the last scene of the trailer

in the trailer you see the decorations coming towards the camera, in the picture you can see them going away from the gazebo in the top right

we could also assume that it's fairly close to the edge of the map, if the extraction horses in the trailer scene are actually meant to be there

but maybe they're just used to set the scene

[cloud bobcat]

Yep, that's exactly my thoughts

Well

I would say in sneak peek camera is on the opposite side of the tree regarding to trailer

Like that

[earnest jungle]

Also on a completely unrelated topic Jos and Alison were definitely dating.

Hunter and Sinan were also dating and no I will not elaborate on that.

[ruby current]

Yeah you're right

[cloud bobcat]

They definitely were dating in the 18+ way

I'm almost sure, that one of the entries on twins ends with the beginning of sex scene

I have not read about Hunter and Sinan yet

Also, taking into account entries on twins, I wouldn't be surprised if more hunters prefer the connections that can't result in unwanted children

[earnest jungle]

I have no evidence that Sinan and Hunter dated but I ship it

[cloud bobcat]

I will come back to you regarding this ship after reading related entries

[junior pecan]

*Alison

You forgot gator

I dont remember anything about john and sinan but there was that mention of sword fighting hue hue

[junior pecan]

Saber

[earnest jungle]

Yeah that entire dynamic is the entire reason I ship them.

[junior pecan]

He’s muslim

And he believes in ghosts

Thats some serious haram there

[earnest jungle]

And?

[junior pecan]

Nothin, thats it

Just improbable, not a real contention

[cloud bobcat]

Was demon juice that Lynch got with man ropes the serum, that hunters inject to become hunters?

[junior pecan]

Yes

Innoculum

[cloud bobcat]

Thanks

[earnest jungle]

Also Lynch went on a bloody rampage at Brickworks.

Which honestly intrigues me.

[cloud bobcat]

When?

[ruby current]

Have you ever seen or read Vendetta?

[cloud bobcat]

No

[ruby current]

The Hennessy murder and mob lynching are the one and the same that Black recounts in the incipit of the Assassin's pages

Black being there and witnessing the whole thing is another of Hunt's lore connections to real events and personalities

[cloud bobcat]

Damn

I probably would make a google doc about irl connections

There are too many

I want them in one place

[ruby current]

Vincent the Assassin, being there and fleeing from Black, kinda implies he's the murderer of police chief Hennessy

[earnest jungle]

After taking over the AHA Lynch went on a rampage in Brickworks for unclear reasons. I have three possible explanations:
• Lynch wanted something from brickworks and they were in the way.
• Lynch was eliminating old guard hunters who supported Huff and who might have opposed her leadership.
• The Massacre was apart of some kind of Ritual that she believed would grant her greater powers.

[cloud bobcat]

Interesting

[earnest jungle]

Additionally the reason why Italians were targeted during all of this is that before he died Hennessy allegedly answered when asked who shot him “Dagos” (a slur for Italians).

It Vincent Orsica is Italian as his surname implies that could lend towards him being Hennessy’s killer.

[cloud bobcat]

I'm still haven't read most of the stuff, so can't really discuss a lot of things

[ruby current]

Orsica is an Italian surname, yes

I love they tied in stuff like this

Calamity Jane is another example

[earnest jungle]

Interestingly it was Black’s Coverage of the Lynch that got him fired from his job at the paper and may have led to Vincent Choosing to befriend him.

As Vincent was critical of the Mob Violence and the paper was run by one of the ringleaders of the mob.

[earnest jungle]

This has no basis in Cannon but I choose to believe Jane is still alive and Cater just tells people she’s dead as an inside joke.

[ruby current]

I might miss some pieces, Jane is shot by accident right?

But her death is not confirmed, we just know she gets hit

And that was the "tragedy" that struck Carter's show

[earnest jungle]

Jane and Jose were presumably killed in a landslide that was intentionally set by Felis in order to cover up her part in the killing of Red and his Father.

[ruby current]

I'm missing the Handcannon entry :(

[hallow kraken]

I just read the Romero lore, and it says that whatever makes them immune to becoming zombies is a weird mixture of plants. In another entry it’s like demon blood or something right? Which one is the inoculum and why are there two?

[cloud bobcat]

Inoculum is "demon juice" acquired by Lynch, which is used to give hunters their powers

Romero lore I have not read yet

[ruby current]

It follows Glanton for the most part I believe

[cloud bobcat]

Well, I don't know who Glanton is. Because I have not read romero lore yet .-.

I'll finish the book of weapons tomorrow

[earnest jungle]

It’s possible it’s both

“Sampson” did cut out another hunters heart, perhaps for the blood.

[junior pecan]

Blood, glanton’s innoculum has substitute parts

[earnest jungle]

My theory is that Sampson’s incoulum is some kind of home brew used to recycle blood from hunters into an inoculum

[jagged tide]

Glanton is very interesting. He is in the Romero-entries, but also appears in the Assassin and Spider entries. "sins of the son" is his legendary weapon. There is alot of speculation about him. His nameless companion might be his alter ego (shizophrenia) or maybe he... ate him. Weird character. Maybe important, maybe just an extrem example of a hunter (as the researcher notes imply).

[jagged tide]

Yes, that would make sense. Like those siberian shamans who eat psychodelic mushrooms and then keep their own urin to drink some more of the psychodelic stuff... ok, maybe thats a weird example, but you get what I mean: The hard to get, secret ingrediant can also be substituted by the blood of people who took the incolum. Your theory sounds... sound.

[earnest jungle]

His nameless companion was likely a Sampson. A code name for recruiters who seek out prospective hunters.

[jagged tide]

Hmm. Dosent sound convincing to me, srry. Then there wouldnt have been a problem to tell Glanton his "name", right? And the nameless guy didnt realy recruit Glanton. Glanton kinda... followed him home.

[jagged tide]

Are you sure the Brickwood-Trial is about Lynch? It was my first thought as well, but there is little evidence.

[earnest jungle]

Whom else could it be about other than Lynch?

The description matches Lynch to a T, a mysterious women who took over the AHA and left a trail of violence and destruction in her wake.

[jagged tide]

Dont know. Someone new. There is still so little we know about the AHA's development after Huffs death. I thought that Marshall Brewer took over, while Lynch lost her body.

[earnest jungle]

Marshall Brewer wouldn't massacre a group of hunters as apart of a dark ritual

[jagged tide]

true...

[earnest jungle]

Not to mention when Brewer is mentioned she is mentioned by name.

[jagged tide]

yes. But so is Lynch (unless she is the "irish woman" as well)

[earnest jungle]

Lynch is the Irish Women.

Lynch is an Irish name, and the Phantom's description of the Irish Woman matches Collin's description of Lynch to a T.

[jagged tide]

Lynch is an irish name? thx for the info.

[junior owl]

Is it real canon lore what you play in the trials or is it just gameplay

[jagged tide]

afaik its canon to some degree.

But I think for example, that Gird only met 1 Immolater at the Chapel, not 8

and Trevors met 1 Meathead at the slaugtherhouse, etc

[junior owl]

And there's the trial where you kill a lot of metalheads

Mhh yeah Probably right but unsatisfying

[jagged tide]

yes. But its still interesting. I always wondered what happened with Winkler and father Nico, and the trial at Chapel as well as the new trailer (and some other sources) all point into the direction of an Immolater appearing. So there might be some minor hints in each Trial, but unfortunatly never much.

I wish as well we had some CLEAR first hand and not unreliable lore-sources. But it seems we wont get em 😩

[cloud bobcat]

After twins banish Lynch they immediately talk about going to Finch. So it seems to me like he should lead AHA almost immediately after Lynch is defeated by twins

[cloud bobcat]

Thanks for the info. I will check him out tomorrow

[junior pecan]

It was ambiguous as to if they were going to tell him or kill him. Its not obvious who’s on who’s side anywhere

[jagged tide]

Yes, thats what I thought as well. But there is no hint of Finch taking control of the AHA and there are some strong hints leading to Marshall Brewer being the new Boss of the AHA after Huffs death(note, that the "bad as they seem" storyline has been in the game a long time before Marshall Brewer - might be they dropped Finch for Brewer). And there is the "there came a darkness" trailer, which shows the twins at Brewers side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=803IUEgOBfE

[earnest jungle]

I assumed that Nico and Winkler were killed by a hoard of grunts that swarmed the Church while Winkler performed the autopsy of the grunt. But I suppose it is possible that Father Nico was transformed into an Immolator by the loss of the little ones and Winkler's indifference to him and skepticism of the supernatural.

[earnest jungle]

And I'm not sure if those are intended to be the twins or not. You'd think they'ed give the twins their own custom designs.

Speaking of which

I have a new theory as to whom this Hunter is

If this is indeed a legendary hunter, there is only one legendary white shirt that I know of whom is associated with Sheriff Hardin

This may be none other than the one and only Russel Chambers

It could be (and likely is) just a normal white shirt

But I want to believe damn't it! I want to believe!

[junior pecan]

Too old to be writing his pa

Though im pretty sure its a kitbash which means it should be an important character

[earnest jungle]

Who could it be? Finch? Huff?

Perhaps the mysterious L?

Oh and we can narrow down the Location to the Map to this region as the architecture we’ve been shown is French Creole Style.

[tardy spear]

I'm pretty sure Finch is still alive. He's the one that pays our bounties after all. Also dude's immortal, but I guess Lynch was too.

[ruby current]

That much is sure

[ruby current]

I had the same idea haha

[ruby current]

Finch and Huff aren't much fighters anyway

Their place is "among those who organize", J. W. Jones says to Huff in the Bornheim entries

[earnest jungle]

Doesn’t seem that was true though. As Huff is described as being negligent in his containment of the incident.

[ruby current]

Because of his "temper" he took that as "I can do whatever I want, I'm in charge"

more than a real sense of responsibility

[jagged tide]

Well, if there are 2 people with Hardin, thats ofc the first thought. But he NEVER uses a Nagant in the trailer, so I doubt it.

[jagged tide]

Actually I think the Grunt dissected by Winkler turned into an Immolater. I doubt that every Immolater in the Bayou has the same background as Jeremy Byrne. Think about the Meatheads. Therecant be that many children of Hunters. They are copies made by the sculptor. But whats the raw material to build them from? I think its Grunts.

[jagged tide]

The twins, Lynch, Huff, Finch... all the main-chars dont have skins, and prbly never will have. Check out 00:25 thats the knive of the Twins, one wears a hood and one caries a Sledge-hammer. Its the same scene as in "there came a darkness". Those 2 are the twins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8Sx3pSrvlc

[jagged tide]

Wait, Finch is Immortal?

[tardy spear]

Yeah, at least he's pretty sure he is.

It's part of...one of the lore pieces. It's from the perspective of a poet who Finch also thinks is immortal.

[jagged tide]

Cant remember any of that... can you tell me where to find it?
Interesting thing btw:

“No one left to lead the organization now, is there?”
“Not a soul,” Jos replied.
“Then I guess it’s time we found Finch.”

Finch is ofc the obvious choice to lead the organization, but why do they say "not a soul"? Would make sense, if Finch realy is an outerworldly being like Lynch...

[tardy spear]

Probably just because it's a common saying

And Finch doesn't lead the organization, he's just a contact. He helps.

[jagged tide]

I think there are some more critical notes from the Researcher on Huff in the entries of the custom-ammos.

[tardy spear]

And if I remembered which one it was I would have specified, sorry. I don't know.

[jagged tide]

kk, still thx. Gonna look for it.

[cloud bobcat]

Tbh, we have sheriff and reverend, who is kinda at the top in the bayou. So I would not be surprised, if we to get twins at some point. Lynch and other probly not yeah

Also this part from Chambers' letters:
"The Bear hasn't been the same since his wound. Most nights, he stays out, staring up at the moon, even when the clouds are thick. Mad. Thought about handing him over to Finch, there's
not the same bad blood between us as there was with Huff. "
Implies that Finch is in place of Huff

[ruby current]

Yes, Finch is the Head of the AHA after Huff

[spiral lynx]

who are the two person in store page logo?

or are they just random hunter

[cloud bobcat]

Just two nonames, I believe. Also, one of them holds nonexistent Winnie variant

[cloud bobcat]

Yeah, it would make sense that Finch also took over the asylum

[novel saffron]

Isn't that the marksman?

[cloud bobcat]

It is. But it's not the C variant

It's full winnie

And marksman is C

It has no significance, but it bothers me

[cloud bobcat]

Okay, so it says here "Time's caught up". It says similar stuff on the sisters preview. Could it be, that the one heading north is related to sisters?

And we have Slaters like situation

Where one member of the family comes back to his home, that's inside incident zone

...I kinda understand conspiracy theorists now

[cloud bobcat]

Glanton's diary is hilarious

Just the mental image of him hitting himself in the head trying out handcannon and smashing the axe man have been carrying for six years

[ruby current]

Because Glanton is every player that misses a Romero Hatchet shot, stares at the opponent and goes "but wait... there's more!"

raises axe

[cloud bobcat]

Exactly

[cloud bobcat]

"you shall see the 8th circle" is engraved on Lynch's machete. So maybe it has something with her nature and source of her abilities

[novel saffron]

Well, in Dante's Inferno the 8th circle it's home to whoever followed the steps of Simon Magus, trying to get powers through money. Might be referring to her mission to kill the sculptor; implying that he's actually someone who acquired mystical powers through material means (therefore sending him to the 8th circle where he belongs). Pure speculation tho

In the skin description says that "Beneath the stains, engraved markings reveal its original purpose as part of a huge steel printing plate"

[cloud bobcat]

I would assume engraving was made after it was turned into a weapon

Also, I love the implementation of gameplay alterations into lore. Like addition of trios

[cloud bobcat]

Or maybe the mentioning of hell is more of a general implication, that all hunters are damned souls

Eh, it's all too ambiguous

[amber harbor]

by what you are saying the 8th circle is dominated by greed, which is a constant theme among wild west tales, including this one. '

[earnest jungle]

The 8th Circle of Hell is reserved for Frauds, the 3rd Bolgia (with which Simon Magus is found) is reserved for those who committed Simony. Which is using money to acquire Church favors and Powers. Simon Magus specifically tried to buy the power to call down the holy spirit from Saint Peter.

The fourth Bolgia is more interesting.

As it is reserved for Sorcerers.

Fortune Tellers, Diviners, Astrologers, and False Prophets are punished in the Fourth Bolgia.

All and all most Hunters would likely end up in the 8th ciricle

[cloud bobcat]

So, the one heading to relieve Winkler and Nico is William. But we don't know who he is, do we?

[novel saffron]

Yep, but since the only reference to the 8th circle I know of, other than Lynch's machete, is the one where Simon is directly referenced I tried to draw a line between the two

[earnest jungle]

Except there’s no real evidence that Grunts turn into immolators, while there is plenty or evidence priests do.

[cloud bobcat]

r/brandnewsentence

sorry

[exotic juniper]

is there a list of who each Legendary item belonged to?

[novel saffron]

Not really, either it's in the skin description who it belonged to or the description references some other story told somewhere else

[exotic juniper]

damn

i want to compile a list of each legendary Hunter’s items

[cloud bobcat]

Well, it would not be that hard. A lit of legendary's lore you can find in the pinned post

You can make a google doc or table

I'm sure, some people will appreciate it

[split yacht]

Anyone noticed that if you fail quicklplay by way of the time running out you burn up like an immolator? Could be that the immolators are hunters that failed to free their damned souls?

[cloud bobcat]

Wow, That's neat.

[brave nymph]

It's in the trailer, the Priest legendary turns into one

A sinner no less

[jagged tide]

Well, read the Grunt entries. Especially Winkler's last comments.

[jagged tide]

No he dosent. Gird stands in the middle of the Chapel, the Immolater comes from the entrance. We also know this scene kind of from Gird's trial. And Chambers talks about Girds men burning the Chapel a second time.

[earnest jungle]

No it’s very clearly Gird transforming in the trailer. Same model, same church.

[jagged tide]

No, not at all. Just rewatched it.

The scene dosent even give me the idea it COULD be Gird

[earnest jungle]

It very clearly is Ishim Grid it uses the same model

[jagged tide]

what? No. He dosent turn into a Immolater in the trailer. He fights an Immolater. Its the scene from the card and the trial.

[earnest jungle]

You were saying?

Ishim Grid clear as day transforming into an immolator

[jagged tide]

huh... okay. I couldnt get that frame on my player, guess your right. But why did they change the perspective...

[earnest jungle]

More dramatic

[earnest jungle]

So that we’re looking at Ishim Gird head on instead of from behind.

[earnest jungle]

And no Sampson absolutely did recruit Glanton as the first Romero entry implies. The man asked him what he thought about hunting, a clear proposition, and Glanton responded affirmatively.

[jagged tide]

He did? Cant find that part... can you quote it? And what makes you think he is Sampson? Nothing seems to imply that to me tbh.+

[earnest jungle]

Because both Black and Coetzee were recruited by a man named “Samson” I suspect they are two different people because the “Samson” who recruited Coetzee is dead.

Also it’s confirmed here that Samson is a code name

Also Graphical Bug or some kind of Lore Foreshadowing: You make the call.

(This is from over a year ago)

[cloud bobcat]

Nah. He didn't The man just kinda flexes on Glanton about stolen guns and then leaves. "He started walking on down the road and I set about following. He asked me what I was doing. I told him I was a hunter like him. I showed him the Romero. He said that was more a sports mans gun. I told him straight back that there was no finer sport than hunting."

[earnest jungle]

He clearly was trying to get Glanton’s attention and if he didn’t want to recruit him he would have just gotten rid of him.

[cloud bobcat]

I think he just tolerates Glanton

He doesn't recruit him in the style of other Samsons

"This dumb boy is dumb, but I guess he can be useful, so whatever"

That's how I imagine The man's position

I would say, he (The man) has some personal reasons to be in the bayou. Judging by his behaviour in the encounter with spider

[earnest jungle]

Why would he approach him then, why even inoculate him if he saw him as nothing more than a disposable tool?

[cloud bobcat]

I still think he approached him mostly to flex " I gathered then his intention was to make me feel small.".
Why to inoculate him? Well, I wouldn't want my tool to try to eat my brains. "He said, word for word, think of it like a rabies shot, but if you don't take it, it'll be me killing you, not rabies. I saw he was serious"

[earnest jungle]

Throughout the entire Romero entries the man spends the entire time training him to become a hunter he is very clearly a recruiter and approached him and helped him with the gun to get his attention.

He is very clearly a recruiter just based on the fact that he recruited Glanton.

[cloud bobcat]

Again, If you bother to take someone to the bayou, you kinda want them to be useful. That means training them. But it's different from Samson's or Huff's mass conscription. That's why I differentiate them. Recruiting people is not the primary (Or one of the primary) task of The man. He just happen to get Glanton in

[earnest jungle]

He recruited other hunters as well, the men from New York though these recruits did not fair better.

And his recruiting style does not have to mirror the recruiting style of all other Samson’s it’s already been established that all of the Samsons are different people using the same code name.

[cloud bobcat]

I didn't think New York hunters were of The man's group. Just some poor bastards.

They could've worked together, but not at the same level as The man and Glanton

[earnest jungle]

Enough we’ve been arguing in circles over this for almost an hour. Besides the Samson who recruited Coetzee also took a hands-on field-training approach as well. So it’s not at all unreasonable to assume the nameless man who recruited Glanton is one of many nameless men who recruited other hunters under the code name Samson.

I found this in the Band that does the SoundTrack for the Game’s Spotify

[cloud bobcat]

Yeah, I kinda need to sleep too. It all about who we count as "Samson". Was fun discussion tho

See ya around

[manic ivy]

When are we gonna discuss the real lore? Like the weird sister and her love of cherries?

[cloud bobcat]

Just last thing. Checked Coetzee entries and have to agree, that that's a good precedent. And in this case the New York hunters could've been someone alike recruits, that Coetzee and Samson trained

[rain pebble]

where do y'all get this lore?

[jagged tide]

Gird turning into an Immolater as well feels kinda boring... but there's no denying it with that evidence...

[earnest jungle]

Tomorrow I am going to begin the labyrinthine process of updating the TV tropes page of Hunt Showdown.

Keeping that page up to date is as endless and tiring as the general war against the corruption.

[earnest jungle]

The real difficulty is how to categorize things. I think I’m going to group things by faction.

[cloud bobcat]

Mostly from weapon/legendary descriptions. Chek pinned posts here. There are compiled files, so you don't need to farm books ingame

[jagged tide]

You can check out the wiki as well: https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Lore

[vagrant gulch]

😉

[severe mulch]

Scrapbeak lore related, which event do you all think is shown in the Scrapbeak trailer?

It's without a doubt the known American civil war. Could it be the Siege of port hydson ?

But the fort displayed in the trailer is obviously Fort Carmick. If so, that battle supposedly happened in 1862, not 63.

I'm a little confused over this.

[pliant moth]

just feeling slightly cucked

[cloud bobcat]

Btw, did you know about mention of second circle in the trading cards?

[earnest jungle]

No what is it?

[cloud bobcat]

Trading Card-”The Second Circle”-"It's where the truth is revealed to you. And where your descent will start."

[earnest jungle]

Second circle is Lust

So what does Lust have to do with any of this?

[cloud bobcat]

Two things I can connect to lust are meathead being the child of a hunter and romance of one of the twins

[severe mulch]

What romance are you referring to again?

[earnest jungle]

Allison and Jos are doing the pelvis penuckle

[cloud bobcat]

Yep. I'm just bad at names

[severe mulch]

You guys really think they were lovers ?

The only thing indicating towards it is pretty much a "and more".

[earnest jungle]

The Calvary Saber entry has what can only be described as an explicit start to a sex scene

[severe mulch]

Say what now

I literally never perceived it as a sex scene till now. Very nice writing.

[signal heart]

Ok I stopped in here this morning for another reason entirely, but before I get to that, yes, you are correct.

So then on another topic entirely

Saw some folks asking for the lyrics from Dark in New Orleans (the song on the Dark Sight trailer), and I can share the bits that are included in the trailer:

I'm heading south

Take that train

Packed a bag

Slipped away

They say it's dark in New Orleans

They say there's work for a woman like me

I killed a man, and a few more

I shot them down and left their bodies cooling on that old dirt floor

I killed another to get this seat on the train to New Orleans

Three days counting, Specter shine

There's gonna be trouble, just my kind

I'll take this gun to New Orleans, they say there's work for a man like me

Two above, three below

We're counting graves that we have filled

We're counting graves that we will fill

That we will fill with men like me

For the rest, you'll have to wait for the full album release, which (in case you missed it on the socials) will be coming out later this year and will have the full version of that song on it.

[ruby current]

say, Hawthorne

have you been casually enjoying some Greg Iles' books lately?

[ruby current]

thanks for these btw. can't wait for the album, that song is absolute fire.

[signal heart]

I hadn't heard of him until I saw you all chatting about him! But they are on my list now

Though my to read list is quite frankly, frighteningly long...

[cloud bobcat]

What I gather from lyrics is that transport system in Louisiana sucks and you need to go South to then go North

[ruby current]

I'm pretty sure that the canonical name of the Mountain Man's bear is Mr. Wobbles

[cloud bobcat]

Does he talk to the bear? "Hey, Mr. Wobbles, how about we rush this boys with an axe?"

[novel saffron]

Mr. Wobbles why don't you peak just outside cover so they know exactly where I am?

[signal raven]

@novel saffron any news from that musical easter egg with the "3/4" the dev posted ?
What about the one with the symbol in the trailer ? Something new about it ?

We should have a easter egg channel 🙂

[cloud bobcat]

What symbol do you mean? If it's about the letters, than it's voynich and it's decoded and says "heading North to DeSalle"

[novel saffron]

On the hatfish easter egg i didn't see anything new around

[signal raven]

Ok thanks, thought I missed something.

[earnest jungle]

Yeees Confirmation

[earnest jungle]

Perhaps 3/4 clue is a time signature and the song needs to be played at that speed.

[charred spade]

To me it really really sounds like "on that river floor" rather than "on that old dirt floor" and I am afraid I am losing my mind

[lyric quail]

Scrapbeak lore t;;dr?

[cloud bobcat]

Veteran of the war lost legs, got given prosthetics by Plague doctor (iirc), got corrupted, lives in the bayou and collects junk, because social support in 19 century Louisiana sucks

That's mostly from his reveal trailer tho

I didn't read all the lore from mostrum

[lyric quail]

@cloud bobcatThat makes sense and what I gathered from the video, but i wasn;t sure if I was missing osemthing

[cloud bobcat]

Yeah, you can check lore doc in the pinned posts and read his full entries without farming the book in-game.

[earnest jungle]

Scrapbeak was a Veteran turned Junk dealer named Avis Wyndham Sr. He and his son got into a fight in the bayou Jr killed his beloved pet birds and the Scrapbeak snapped and became bird.

Those dead birds we found scattered around the map? Those were Avis’ birds.

[steel topaz]

is there a lorehead here who knows all the lore?

[cloud bobcat]

I would assume Hawthorne knows all, but he wouldn't tell us .-.

(just in case - don't ping him)

[ruby current]

He said he never heard of Iles

I am very suspicious

Hmmm.

[cloud bobcat]

I mean, if it's all a big coincidence, then you can as well go and buy a lottery ticket

[ruby current]

Story of my life hahaha

[hallow kraken]

*casually turns into a bird

Didn’t someone like meld a weird bird head to his skull or something?

[spiral lynx]

what happen to his son?

[earnest jungle]

Currently on trial as a scapegoat for all of the “missing” persons from the bayou

[obsidian mural]

i was just looking at the monster book for the grunt

is the monster book written in the future?

how it is written makes it sound like it could be written in modern day

[icy brook]

That is an intriguing point, however the Darksight Trailer is quite interesting in terms of lore

[earnest jungle]

The book was written between 1895 and 1980.

The Researcher implies at some points implies he’s talked with several hunters personally. While he also treats zombies as a well known concept which places the writing of this text sometime after 1968.

Which would mean John Voelkel was close to 100 when he was interviewed.

[signal heart]

I mean I can see how it sounds like that, but I can confirm I sang on that old dirt floor.
But maybe we're all losing our minds who can say

[signal heart]

I'm a she/her, and also Im not tellin' nosiree what fun would that be 🙂

[signal heart]

Hahaha. As much as I wish my book nerd knowledge included every book ever written, alas. Its an era and area that has fascinated many

[signal heart]

It gives me great pleasure every time I come in here and see you posting something just Totally Getting It. Huzzar

[earnest jungle]

Thank you

[ruby current]

Oh so it IS you singing!! Wow.

Just can't wait for the full song, it strikes perfectly.

[cloud bobcat]

Whooops, sorry.
Of course, but the joke was there and I took it

[charred spade]

Beautiful performance

[timber tapir]

Scrapbeak is sans undertale?

[signal heart]

It is! And thank you 🙂

[signal heart]

Haha, no worries, and who could blame you

[warm orchid]

if you move the letters and add a few and remove a couple you get Sans

[brazen dawn]

Anyone know what the bounty tokens are? Are they solid objects?

[earnest jungle]

Organs

Only things left over from the banishing

[brazen dawn]

Woah really? Like it leaves its heart and lungs behind?

[earnest jungle]

Something like that what the organs are isn’t clear

[rotund ferry]

Could it be a special organ that grows from them being turned into a monster?

[cloud bobcat]

Imagine hauling bounty token and it starts attacking you, just like hands attacked Sheriff's party

[rotund ferry]

Would be one hell of a drinking story, lmao

[cloud bobcat]

Also, I wonder, is there a lore explanation (perhaps untold) to the healthchunk system

[rotund ferry]

I'd imagine it has something to do with each Hunter simply being built different. Using the Legendary Hunters for example, Blackcoat is a big dude, so he would (in lore) probably have like 3 big chunks, but Redshirt is a smaller guy and would probably only 1 big chunk

At least thats what I think, otherwise I don't know enough about the lore to explain much else besides that random guess I made

[cloud bobcat]

I was talking more about loss of them and revive/permadeath. Although it also can be attributed to the body reaching it's limit after eating ten sparks bullets

[brazen dawn]

Maybe the bounty token organ is from here and thats why it does not get banished with the rest of the monster. Maybe its the heart or brain of a human that gets corrupted by the sculpter. Then the rest of the monster bits come from wherever they come from.

[tardy maple]

quick question, is the Sovereign chinese or Japanese?

[cloud bobcat]

Chinese. The whole dlc was released to celebrate Chinese New Year

[tardy maple]

he looks oddly Japanese to me. I like to imagine him with the voice of Takeshi Kitano :p

[cloud bobcat]

Well, Ronin is Japanese

[spiral lynx]

tbh chinese and japanese doesnt look much different

people might mix their architect and culture by mistake

which is not uncommon

especially in old days

[analog dome]

Hey, i'm looking for the game lore. Any advise where i can find a solid db outside of the game ?

[rotund ferry]

You can find all lore entries and the main stories in the Hunt wiki :)

[untold lodge]

I'm trying to unlock all the weapon mastery's so I can binge certain stories since all the weapon families tell their own tale. Any recommendations (prefer no spoilers)?

[rotund ferry]

https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Lore

[ember warren]

None of the weapon ones spring to mind, but the Immolator and Meathead ones are absolutely captivating

[cloud bobcat]

Romero entries are fun. Nagants are great. This ones have full story in them. "Bad as they seem" is pretty interesting, but dispersed between different weapons

[earnest jungle]

Thr Winfield Terminus and Centennial story is quite gripping

[cloud bobcat]

Again, you don't need to unlock them, unless you want to

Most of them are in the pinned docs

[opaque fern]

Oh wow, I just realized there is a lore channel on here! How effin' cool is that? I'm always intrigued by the lore of game/film universes. That's what brings them to life. And I just love the Hunt lore. I also love that each legendary has it's own lore. Something that has already drawn me heavily to the Destiny universe and something I do myself for the lightsabers I build. Exactly my cup of tea and one of the main reasons to keep playing. I want nothing to be blurred out in my lore book 🙂 WELL DONE!

[opaque fern]

I'm still waiting for your albums to be released on vinyl. Any chance?

[ruby current]

oh yeah my gf would absolutely love a vinyl of the OST

[opaque fern]

What he says ☝️

[frail grove]

Aight, who's your favorite legendary hunter, lorewise?

[ruby current]

Lorewise, Sheriff Hardin

By looks I think Llorona's Heir, but I don't have her (yet)

By first person camera (animation and overall feel when playing) Felis.

I wonder what Llorona looks like in 1st person

[exotic juniper]

funny you should say that since he's my favorite all around :)

[hallow kraken]

Is there any lore on the mountain man? He’s my favorite but I haven’t read anything yet

[earnest jungle]

Springfirld

[versed eagle]

Is A.H.A. validated by the government? Or was it an underground association?

[restive drift]

Hunt official (or unofficial) Book, when? Id love to read it

[ruby current]

The name of the bearhead is Mr. Wobbles

It is said the Man talks to him while in battle

[earnest jungle]

The AHA for better or worse (mostly for worse) is completely independent of government oversight.

[untold blaze]

The Hellhound lore page about Bunny is honestly kinda sad

Cause it has this weird sense of foreboding

[stiff gorge]

this is probably an answered question but who or what is the sculptor

[cloud bobcat]

We don't really know as far as I understand

It's ~something~

[stiff gorge]

Just some person or force that’s just causing a bit of trouble

And is it known what happened with huff and the asylum, was it just your standard massacre?

[cloud bobcat]

Huff got assassinated on the orders of Lynch

[stiff gorge]

Ah ok

[cloud bobcat]

And after that Lynch was defeated by twins. So Finch took over the AHA

[bitter skiff]

some sort of otherworldy being/demon/outer god/immaterial force/thing that's resonsible for all the monsters and stuff the AHA is fighting

I think it is implied that it has a physical form of some kind, which people have seen

and it does hang out in a different dimension of some kind

and this is a stretch, but I think that "we probably have a sculptor on our hands" coming from an experienced hunter might be implying that they're a known entity and there may be more of them which the AHA have dealth with before? the incident in new orleans that the game is centered around isn't the first one, another had happened a decade before, maybe a different sculptor? but this could just be the same entitiy showing up again

if you wanna take a deep dive and control+F some stuff this document is really useful, as is everything else in the pins
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit

[glad verge]

From what I've read, is The Black Coat dead?

[oak nymph]

Yup. I believe he was killed by the twins.

[devout cedar]

What a noob

[untold blaze]

Is there any lore on Glanton, besides what was on Sins of the Son?

[cloud bobcat]

Yes, check entries for the romero

You can find them in the lore doc linked above

[untold blaze]

Ah, thank you friend

[cloud bobcat]

Np, they are absolutely hilarious in my opinion

[untold blaze]

I have a gut feeling that “unidentifed leather” is skin

[cloud bobcat]

Hey, I think you should drop your video on a hatfish song here

[devout cedar]

https://youtu.be/m2YJr0fs6AU

Sure

[smoky spruce]

Cant wait to find hatfish in DaSalle

[earnest jungle]

!!!!!!!!!!!

[dire knoll]

I’m so confused by the theme of this map

Half of the pics look like stillwater swamp and some of the others look like a completely new biomw

Didn’t help that the one gameplay shot they teased in darksight looked identical to the last two maps

[patent seal]

Yeah no kidding lol

[earnest jungle]

If I were to hazard a guess where heading somewhere that had been utterly devastated by heavy industry and exploitation

[dire knoll]

Sure but this is just a colour graded swamp

of all the parts of the map the show off why a random tree, a gazebo and the same bridge asset at davant ranch

[stiff gorge]

Would be interesting if there is a huge factory compound to fight in

Something akin to the industrial side of customs in escape from tarkov

[wraith peak]

.

Question: what are these... characters? Sorry if this has been asked before

[glossy falcon]

@wraith peak #lore-discussion message

[wraith peak]

Ah, thankyou

[cloud bobcat]

I would assume it will have some raised areas, because the quarry and the mansion are not likely to be in water. And probably a big river judging by the last teaser and irl locations

I don't think they'll abolish swampy areas completely, but I do believe there will be less of them

[cloud bobcat]

Oil refinery might fit the bill

[stiff gorge]

yeah that too

[earnest jungle]

I’m more interested in the name of the Company: Graf Co Lumber.

On the official website you’ll find a bunch of story articles that give lore on some of the compounds from around the map.

And two names that pop up are the Blanchetts, and Heinrik Graf.

He owns the warehouse and processing plant in Port Reeker, Reynard Mill and Lumber, and had been a customer of Peter Roche

He lost everything in the Crash of 1893, and he became cruel and abusive in his quest to regain his lost wealth.

People were always suspicious of Graf because he preferred to work for the Shadows. All of his properties kept their local names. Perhaps to preserve their character, more likely to conceal just how many properties he owned.

[cloud bobcat]

Good catch

[dawn dove]

Ok i've been wondering. Do we know who exactly from the legendary roster(In lore only not gameplay) is one of the best out of their counterparts?

[cloud bobcat]

What do you mean by "the best?" Hunter qualities? Most of the legendary hunter didn't meet each other. So it's kinda hard to compare

[dawn dove]

Hunter qualities

[cloud bobcat]

Well. I would say that sheriff, reverend and night seer would be at the top as "faction" leaders

[dawn dove]

What makes you say that

[cloud bobcat]

Well, they are leaders of the large groups, who survived in the bayou for a long time

So

That

[dawn dove]

Oh in that case yeah sounds about right

these uh "factions" do we know what they are yet?

[cloud bobcat]

Well, night seer leads "night of the hunt" cult. Reverend has his religious man and sheriff just has solid group of hunters, which consists from former inmates, orphans and just random people. As for they aims, I can't really recall all of that

[dawn dove]

Im going to guess the Reverend wants the bad situation to end

[cloud bobcat]

Sheriff more or less fights against the corruption

[cloud bobcat]

Yeah, pretty much. But with religious motives

[dawn dove]

Sometimes i wish it had a singleplayer mode. Hearing all this makes me want to play it in game

[late thicket]

Hey guys, do you think in the beginning of the new trailer is the induction of a new hunter? The leader of the American Hunters Association and the weird lady who makes the serums are there and you, the new Hunter, is taking the pledge.

[cloud bobcat]

Yes it is. But the one doing the initiation is sheriff Hardin

And the third hunter probably just some no-name

There were theories about him being Collins, but he would've used nagant in this case

[earnest jungle]

Not Collins. I theorized the new Hunter is Chambers because the third man’s character model is subtly distinct from the usual white shirt model. And Chambers is the only named White Shirt Hunter from the Lore.

But it is still very possible it’s just a standard white shirt hunter and the model I compared it to was just less detailed.

But compare

[oak nymph]

It looks pretty close just fancied up for the trailer, hard to tell though

[earnest jungle]

The beard looks whiter, longer, and fuller

[oak nymph]

Might be the lighting from the bottom left corner? I think its definitely possible to be him but its close enough I'm not fully convinced, I guess?

[junior pecan]

Its the beard from leather coat t3 model. The one used in a lot of old promo

Leather cloak, idk how to describe the ratty thing

[earnest jungle]

It’s a shoulder holster

[cloud bobcat]

Messed up the names, sry

[earnest jungle]

A okay

[cloud bobcat]

Was writing that at 3am)

[untold blaze]

Besides glanton, who wore a white shirt to his first kill

[earnest jungle]

I thought glanton was black? Or am I misremembering?

[untold blaze]

I have no clue myself

[earnest jungle]

No it was his clothes that were described as black not his skin in the Assassin Lore

[untold blaze]

Ah, thank you

[ruby current]

I'm confused about how my girl Llorona fits in the whole scheme

I was wondering if there's anything else beside her bio you guys might know of?

[junior pecan]

No, im saying the beard is from a different model

[bronze roost]

The thing is that is shot in the engine and not ingame so its gonna look way prettier and better

[rotund ferry]

I feel it fits solely for Hunt’s grim-dark atmosphere. The story of Llorona is far removed from anything late 1800’s, otherwise, but it suggests that somehow Llorona didn’t manage to drown this one child; thus, Llorona’s air. I feel it fits the atmosphere of this game and nothing else. You could ask that for a few legendaries, like Ronin.

[cloud bobcat]

Well, legend of La Llarona was around in 19 century. Also, the only connection of heir to the legend is that she's also drowning people. So I would assume she's just some Mexican girl killing in style

[ruby current]

Yay

[cloud bobcat]

Also, all the named characters can be divided into two groups: key character (like Hardin, Lynch, etc.) who are involved in what can be considered main story; and all others, who are represented in some bits of lore or in legionaries. This former category doesn't affect the world development this much, but adds a lot of deepness and flavor

[flat snow]

So, alligators are still around in hunts world. Right? I had always assumed water devils had just thinned out their population and they were no longer around, but reading the water devils lore, it seems like they are still around.

Idk if there was another entry in another place which specifies their lack of presence.

[cloud bobcat]

Well, not all the world is affected by the weird stuff. So, alligators are around ~somewhere~

[untold lodge]

Quick question: Do we know when the Researcher is making these notes? I'm aware the game takes place in 1895 but are these notes looking back at the incident from the modern day?

[earnest jungle]

The Researcher Notes are from after the Event ended, likely some time between the 30s and 70s. Because the Researcher clearly has interviewed some of the legendary hunters but talks about Zombie movies in such a way that indicates this is in the late 60s and early 70s.

[toxic garnet]

hey kind of new into the game just wondering when the game is taking place?

[rotund ferry]

1895

[toxic garnet]

thank you

[rotund ferry]

tf is this?

[earnest jungle]

Syringe

[patent seal]

That's what they stuck in your butt when ya got the rabies 👀

[dawn dove]

[rotund ferry]

Just looked hella clean compared to everything else

Butcher main house

[sleek sierra]

Could be hunter serum...

[untold blaze]

Probably is

[bold totem]

Do we know how this whole thing started? Why are there zombies and the bosses? Voodoo? Necromancy? An evil and sadistic God?

[cloud bobcat]

It's unclear™

But the monsters are because of the sculptor, who is, probably, closer to your third option, but, again, we don't fully understand

[bold totem]

Ok.

[grave holly]

Who taught the Hunters how to Banish ?

[glacial portal]

@rotund ferry I’m fairly sure that’s just a regular horse syringe. Those things can get pretty big and were especially common back then when a lot more people had their own horses.

[cloud bobcat]

It seems like this is not the first encounter with supernatural (given the presence of experienced hunters and foreknowledge of sculptors) the invention of banishing ritual was before of the timeframe in which we are now

Basically, some dude long ago and we probably won't know

[split yacht]

Personally i reckon its a biblical plague of sorts. Theres plenty of references to bible entries (revalations specifically), and dante's inferno. It would also the stand to reason that sinners specifically would turn into imolators, which is corroborated by one of the immolator entries (not sure which)

[cloud bobcat]

Hm. I would attribute biblical references more to the fact that most of entries are made by religious people in religious times. But who knows

[whole latch]

okay i'm fairly new to the whole lore, but is there any background regarding the shadow sight? are you born with it or can you learn it?

[untold blaze]

If I recall correctly, you gain Dark Sight due to the Hunters Serum

[cloud bobcat]

You gain darksight after getting injected with inoculum in the process of initiation. The one that AHA used is demon juice provided by Lynch, who herself is probably some supernatural entity, but takes the form of the female hunter. Some entries show that you can prepare inoculum (or something very similar) from some herbs and (probably) blood of monsters/other hunters. There are also speculations about bone doctor being able to use darksight without being injected because he can into Voodoo ™

[amber onyx]

The wiki is not up to date right?

[tall lava]

Which part to be exact?

[devout cedar]

@tall lava The new DLC is missing there

[amber onyx]

Like the book of weapons page

[glad verge]

How did Elisa died?

[paper lichen]

Randoms... why...

The common sense is not included...

[naive salmon]

New to this sections. I was reading the Grunt entries in the monstrum and there are a couple of sections, all caps, that kinda say stuff but don't make sense. Is there a code section or something?

[mint oasis]

what if there were teleport portals and magic in the lore

[rotund ferry]

There is

[timber briar]

Man, I wanna see more of this lore manifest in the game then

The whole bayous cowboy style grit is all well and good, but I'd enjoy Hunt way more if it would start embracing its stranger elements

[sharp schooner]

Supposedly hunters have been able to traverse Sculptor's realm, if I got my facts right. Kinda like the other side in Stranger Things. That could be such a cool element in the game, being able to travel the map in a different realm and return to earth realm at another clue for example

Also there kinda is magic in the lore. The Bone Doctor resurrected the Revenant after he was killed at a poker game. And in game you can have traits that let you revive teammates and snatch clues/bounties by wiggling your fingers in their direction.

[rich nymph]

I thought the indication of magic would be the magic vision you use every game

[rotund ferry]

It kinda is and is not magic

More like corruption and some sort of link to the other side

[rich nymph]

Is pretty magical

[reef berry]

Yoo i got an Question

Who knowes some lore of the ,,Trickshoter"Carter ?

[tall lava]

Carter's based on Buffalo Bill so I don't know if there's much lore about him related to hunt really

[ruby current]

all centennial and terminus entries are told by Carter

[mint oasis]

Do vehicles/hang gliders have a place in the lore

[cloud bobcat]

Trains and coaches do

[rotund ferry]

I'm the best terminus user, that's canon. In all seriousness, what are the full transcripts of scrapbeak?

[cloud bobcat]

You can read it here https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit?usp=sharing

[scarlet fossil]

Do we know who the man with the diamond buttons in the marksman Winfield entry is? It seems an odd detail to mention right before his death