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junior pecan
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The union believed the same stuff.
“I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races “ -Lincoln himself

Combine that with the draft riots and you see the actuality of the situation. It’s a spectrum between john brown and nathan bedford forrest

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Anyone who deserved renown deserved infamy in those days

earnest jungle
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For context that quote is that Lincoln was trying to quell rumors that he was in favor of “amalgamation” (what we would call integration) which lacked political support in the 1850s

junior pecan
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Im aware but the alternative of him speaking truthfully is arguably a lot worse

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Id rather have an honest asshole of a politician than one that lies any day

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And id hope thats a universal thing

earnest jungle
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And discussions of union army policy are hardly relevant to discussions of the politics of the Confederacy.

junior pecan
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Its relevant in the fact that it did not stop them from fielding african american soldiers

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As it did not for the confederate, though urgency certainly did

earnest jungle
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The difference lays that as multiple high ranking Confederates pointed out If slaves were to make good soldiers their entire theory of slavery and white supremacy was wrong. It would mean the entire cause they were fighting for was wrong.

junior pecan
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Ah but then you’re getting into the whole state’s rights shit

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And what the purpose of it all was

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Which depended on who you asked back then and depends on who you ask now

earnest jungle
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No it doesn't. States Rights didn't become a cause for the Civil War until the 1880's and 1890's. Before and during the war the cause of the south was quite clear: slavery and white supremacy. It was the cause for which the Southern Legislatures revolted against the United States, and it was a cause that the average Confederate Soldier fought for enthusiastically. As can be seen from the speeches, letters, journals, and publications made by Confederate Soldiers, Officers, Politicians, and Civilians. All of primary sources from before and during the war point towards slavery being the main cause of secession and thus the war.

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General Longstreet is quoted as having once said: "If it [the war] wasn't about slavery, then I don't know what else it was about."

junior pecan
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No one was contesting slavery anymore, the south had seceded,

earnest jungle
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And the Cause of Secession was slavery.

junior pecan
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Yes

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And again

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Thats transitive

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If you play that card everything is the cause of everything

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It was about slavery

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But it wasnt started over it

earnest jungle
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No Slavery is explicitly the cause they gave for fighting and secession.

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It’s the cause they gave in the Articles of Secession it was the accuse they gave in countless speeches, newspapers, letters, and journals.

junior pecan
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Yes slavery was the cause of seccession

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Directly,

earnest jungle
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Slavery cannot be divorced from the cause of the war.

junior pecan
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Its not being divorced, its secondary

earnest jungle
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No it’s primary.

junior pecan
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Fort sumter was primary

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Fort sumter happened because of the seccession, which happened because of slavery,

earnest jungle
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The seizing of Federal Armories, and Forts leading up to Fort Sumter was Primary.

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Forts and Armories seized to facilitate secession.

junior pecan
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It wasnt to facilitate it was to finalize

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If sumter had not been contested there would not have been a war

earnest jungle
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Is that why they raised an army months before the Union?

junior pecan
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Yes, it is

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To sieze armories and forts

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They werent expansionist

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They had no reason to fight over ideology when they could just secede,

earnest jungle
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Is that why they invaded New Mexico? And Pennsylvania? Because they weren’t expansionist?

junior pecan
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But secession went out the window when sumter kept being a problem

earnest jungle
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The Militias were the ones who seized Federal Forts and Armories and fired on Fort Sumter. They raised an army because they intended to make a fight of secession.

junior pecan
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Wasnt even a militia for sumter iirc

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Military cadets

earnest jungle
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The South Carolina Militia fired on Fort Sumter

junior pecan
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Who was initial, i was always told first cannon fire was independent cadets, followed by military and militia intervention

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This is tangential anyway

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But again, my point is that slavery is not the immediate cause, therefore it isnt the cause, it is a cause

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Just as oxygen is a cause of any war

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Oxygen isnt the cause though

earnest jungle
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Fort Sumter wasn’t the cause of the war it was the pre-text of the war.

junior pecan
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Literally the initial combat and conflict

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It was the start, can we agree on that?

earnest jungle
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No Cause and Pretext are different. Cause is the reason for the war, Pretext is the incident that causes the war.

junior pecan
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Alright, more articulate definitions, i cede that point then

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Perhaps i was operating off of pretext’s definition

earnest jungle
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Let me use a contemporary example. The Pretext for WWI was the Assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand. The Cause of WWI was competition among the European Imperial Powers desire to assert their dominance over each other.

junior pecan
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Agreed and understood, i still stand by my assertion but it is definitely not as strong under these specifications

earnest jungle
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The Cause of a War is the reason why people want to fight, the pretext is the excuse to fight, and the beginning of a war is the first act of the war.

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The Preservation of and expansion of Slavery was the reason the South Wanted to Fight. The Union refusing to surrender Federal Forts was the pretext for the fight. And the firing on Fort Sumter wad the Beginning of the Fight. This would be the most precise explanation for why the Civil War occurred.

tepid chasm
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hmmm I learned something today

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we don't really talk about the civil war here, and when we do its only the foot notes

winged spoke
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so i saw in the fan art chat a drawing of weird sister and some cherries by @primal condor is there anything in the lore about this or was it just something the artist put together?

primal condor
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@winged spoke just a commission

violet ridge
junior pecan
# earnest jungle The Preservation of and expansion of Slavery was the reason the South Wanted to ...

How do they benefit from the expansion of slavery?
I’d argue the forts were not a pretext but a greater cause due to adjacency. You could argue secession is caused by slavery, and therefore all results of secession are then direct results of the cause of slavery, but if you use that logic then it instantly goes to the extremes of all human interaction is caused by the human condition and falls under its pretense, therefore it would be more correct to day the human condition is the cause of the civil war, more so than slavery as slavery is contained within it as secession is contained within slavery

earnest jungle
# junior pecan How do they benefit from the expansion of slavery? I’d argue the forts were not...

Because the Entire Southern Economy depended on slavery. The Plantation class weren’t the only ones who benefited from slave labor. Southern Railroads transported goods processed by slave labor. Southern Factories processed goods produced by slave labor, southern exporters sold goods produced by slave labors. Banks invested in plantations, and profited from the system of slave labor. And every Southerner Believed whether or not they actually benefited from slavery that they did benefit from Slavery.

A common justification for Slavery was that freed slaves would compete with free whites in the labor market. Another common justification was that freed slaves would rise up against whites and take revenge for centuries of oppression. That freed slaves would become violent criminals and savage their wives and daughters. Essentially Southern Aristocrats told poor and middle class whites that if Slaves were freed they would rise up and replace them in the social hierarchy.

These delusional conspiracy theorists convinced many Southern Whites that abolition would be an apocalyptic disaster. They genuinely believed the abolition of slavery would mean the end of civilization as they knew it. Which is why in the aftermath of the Civil War ex-confederates violently opposed civil rights and imposed segregation and Jim Crow on the South.

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It is true most southerners did not in fact benefit from Slavery. But they didn’t need to benefit from slavery, they just had to think they did. And most Southern Whites seemed to have believe they benefited from slavery.

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Not all however did. A good number of Poor Southerners realized that they didn’t benefit from the system of White Supremacy and resisted the Confederacy Throughout the War.

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The Taylor County Rangers of North West Florida for example were an inter racial group of partisans who resisted Confederate presence within their county.

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There were many unionists groups who resented the Confederacy dragging them into the war and resisted Confederate Occupation.

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Often times people forget the South was not nearly as united under the Confederacy as some of its supporters like to pretend.

main latch
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Isn’t Hunt set, in like, the 1890s? The existance of certain Shotguns and the Dolch/Mauser suggest this.

If I can ask, where did this Civil war talk start from.

earnest jungle
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Someone observed a black soldier in a brownish looking uniform

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Which they assumed was a confederate uniform

main latch
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That’s a myth, but continue,

earnest jungle
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It is and I pointed out that it was most likely an Army Uniform from the American Indian Wars.

main latch
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Also, fuck yea, some one else knows of the Taylor County Bois

earnest jungle
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But the conversation shifted into the politics surrounding secession and slavery

main latch
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...

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Ive been reading that

earnest jungle
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I asserted slavery was the primary cause because it was the ultimate cause of the war and the first cause. While Prowler asserted slavery was a secondary cause as the war would not have happened if the Union had evacuated the federally owned forts in the South.

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We were arguing primary in two different senses. I in the sense of ultimate cause he in the sense of immediate cause.

main latch
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Yea nah it would have.
They were seen as such a oppressive thing by the southerners by the point of 1860 that they likely would have been attacked anyway.

Now granted they normally werent that oppressive, objectively speaking, but the South was not known for having Common sense around that time

earnest jungle
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I believe however the Federal Presence was nothing but pretext for the war. And had the North Evacuated the South the South would have found another Pretext for war.

main latch
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Oh most definitely.

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You know what I want?

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If the game is set in Gothic Horrer Land USA

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Why not some trenches left over

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The Civil war was the prototype for Trench warfare, why not have a few lines still around

earnest jungle
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There are in Lawson delta around the fort

main latch
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Bet

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Havnt seen most of the maps yet

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Played two rounds.
Got domed by some dudes
Then got an empty server, soloed the Butcher, and left.

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I would have stayed to kill the spider dude, but i was down to 6 shots in my Springfield and out of Nagant rounds, so decided to go home

earnest jungle
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You can get ammo from chests and supply points

main latch
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Oh this I know

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I did it twice, panicking because I thought I kept hearing Gunshots isn’t he distance

crisp flint
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Even not from a lore perspective, this has been a fascinating read

junior pecan
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The above comment is my main contention, however I cede the expansion argument. i was considering it purely from plantation perspective and not from interconnected business. Not sure it would be enough to start a war, but there is basis for that.

fallow gorge
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I love the lore discussion page, just full of scholars

violet ridge
eternal crystal
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It's really good, best bois in here ❤️

violet ridge
sick spoke
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LAS VEGAS 🙂

lapis parrot
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there is the theory the A.H.A is behind the outbreak

gentle wraith
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where is the best place to actually delve into raw lore info?

rotund ferry
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The source of most of the lore are the book of monsters and book of weapons. If you don't have it all unlocked, you can also find most of the entries in the Hunt wiki.
https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Lore

gentle wraith
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cool thanks 😁

eternal crystal
# gentle wraith cool thanks 😁

Also check the pinned post top right in this channel. Although it's a bit messy, and we have said to fix it so long but have not yet had the time to sit down and change some of the documents, they are still pretty good

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Also in here you will find answers to most questions, the bois in here are good lore bois ❤️

gentle wraith
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pog, thanks😁

final juniper
knotty smelt
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So i had a theory about black coat. He is all about revenge for starters which is explains that it was the uncle who killed his wife and stole the kids. He just finally tracked them down and killed the uncle but before he could explain he was killed.

tired spear
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oh so you mean the dad in the crossbow lore? the one who got killed by his daughters after he killed the uncle who raised them before they were contacted by the AHA?

split yacht
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Disclaimer: I haven’t unlocked all the lore entries yet, and this is a work in progress theory Has anyone considered the biblical angle? My theory is very work in progress, but I think that the 4 bosses could be the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. I can link 2 of the bosses to the horsemen: The butcher could symbolise war, hence the violent name, and scrapbeak is referenced as Death, with a capital D. Add on to that the blatant reference to revelations in the 4th mastery grunt entry, and the fact that pestilence is the first horseman, and could symbolise the plague outbreak itself, and I think there might be a case.

knotty smelt
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@tired spear yes but my theory is he raised them for selfish reasons. He knew they had power. They were born from a hunter mother and father. Why would the father knife his wife for no reason?

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Also why would the father murder the uncle?

tired spear
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he was looking for his daughters iirc
because he knew they had certain affinities

white pasture
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Because they make sweet weapons

rotund ferry
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The Romero already has a shit ton of variants but I think this would still be sick to see

fierce sinew
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The alofs has probably been mentioned, and shot down as a bad idea, over a 1000 times by now.

rotund ferry
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Ah darn

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Sorry I wasn't aware it was a common tallking point

tired spear
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yeah i've seen it a few couple times already
as cool as it is, it's been widely disregarded and considered to be a terrible idea every single time

knotty smelt
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Get that communist loading mechanism outta here. I want the feeling of loading my shotty manually

kind sedge
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anyone deciphered this text yet from one of the new wolf at the door skins?

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junior pecan
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I can do that i think, looks like a sundial or something tho

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No its a lunar cycle

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Cuz wolvz

kind sedge
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yeah phases of the moon. but theres another cycle below that. not sure what that is

junior pecan
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A hell of a lot of text on this thing

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The translation sheet is in pinned messages if i dont finish

kind sedge
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oh sweet! ill work on it too then

junior pecan
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The screenshot is mirrored again i believe

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No it cant be, the text is backwards on the gun

kind sedge
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yeah its backwards.

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the red circle around the lunar cycle is roman numerals

junior pecan
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Lmao first thing i transcribe is CP with an image of a hollow circle

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Terrible

tardy spear
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The FBI don't even exist yet

kind sedge
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I think it correlates directly to the metonic cycle

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that would suggest that while the small wheel is the cycles of the moon throughout the year, the large wheel records that cycle as it repeats over a period of 19 years. Links to greek, babylonian, and hebrew calenders. Ive been able to translate what I think is "evac" and "Anul" on the big wheel but I have no idea what those mean

lapis parrot
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Found some of these around still water bayou

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junior pecan
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Annul is to make something void

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Evacuate is a synonym

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Especially if you trace the words back in time to their old meanings

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On the radium i have “CIRE”

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Low middle

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High middle “SINGU?NEM”

kind sedge
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I know what bother mean as words, confused by the context 🙂

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Ill look up cire. Sounds latin or greek

junior pecan
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? Could he a a lot of things, need another screenshot to crossreference

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And top right is luna ofc

kind sedge
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cire is french word referring to a wax glaze....

junior pecan
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Look into its etymology

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Might have to do with ancient concepts of lunar surface?

kind sedge
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yeah i am currently

junior pecan
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Im reminded of the “moon is cheese” stuff

kind sedge
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from the latin cera, meaning wax. as in the moon waxes and wanes

junior pecan
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Thats probably it

kind sedge
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which would mean the big wheel is probably just more lunar cycle stuff. The 19 years of the metonic calender is interesting. do we have anything in the lore with 19 years?

junior pecan
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Bottom row is “L U P U M”

kind sedge
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ahh wolf

junior pecan
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But lupum is separated by letter

kind sedge
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do they have any connection to wolves?

junior pecan
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No, not at all

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But hunters in general do

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Just through this dlc tho

kind sedge
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only references to 19 in the monster manual is a bunch of dates are the 19th and in the assassin lore 19 italians are killed by the assassin

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imma look in the book of weapons next

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nope nothing there either. huh

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there are however a lot of moon references. almost all of bears enteries talk about the moon several times, and at one point a demon is bound by a circle of salt described as filling in a broken full moon

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lupum by the way is the accusative of wolf in latin, making it the object of something. maybe the other side of the gun holds the key? Nope. I checked. Lupum again

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heres the other side of that gun "Wolf at the door"

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there's also an inscription beneath the trigger, but its obscured by the lighting. I was able to make out Alex Re___ s Est

earnest jungle
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I hope this is teasing some kind of wolf-man boss

kind sedge
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thatd be awesome

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Any alexes in the lore? I couldnt find any on the doc

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the new midnight howl skin also says "tear through the night under a full moon" and has more lunar cycle stuff on it

nocturne dome
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The dolch is using a later model of c96

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So double the anachronism or however u spell it

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The barrel should be stepped and grips checkered along with other things

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This is the one in game

atomic crow
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🤔

nocturne dome
atomic crow
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I did, and it makes sense.

nocturne dome
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Oh I guess I just misunderstood the emoji lol

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Woops

icy brook
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They probably just grabbed the most available configuration for a model ref

nocturne dome
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I mean I just posted an image of the system mauser

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I doubt they own an actual c96

swift seal
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single player when

rotund ferry
swift seal
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Ok... story mode when

earnest jungle
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Gentlemen do we have any theories on the lore relevance of Poison Curse? It was featured in the most recent dlc trailer.

oak nymph
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The song?

violet ridge
earnest jungle
robust bear
# nocturne dome So double the anachronism or however u spell it

what time is hunt? 1896? well anyway i highly doubt that Mauser has been somehow bought or smuggled to US the year it was actually manufactured, even if that's possible (theoretically), poor little hunters crawling in the swamps would never see such a beauty

sudden glacier
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"poor"

fallow lintel
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if you recruit an legendary Hunter with lvl 100 the 1st time, you still get the badest trades, why isn´t it just dependet on the level instead in the time how often you recruit hunters. you just main 1 hunter and don´t want to play a new one because of the trades.

willow cargo
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wrong channel I think

hollow jay
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what if.. there were rituals in the game. you had to find a few items around the world in order to perform a ritual to buff the boss making the boss harder to kill but increasing the reward for your bounty?

nocturne dome
junior pecan
hallow kraken
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That makes it easier to get kinda, since it’s been in development for a year but there still wouldn’t be many at all

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Plus how would hunters get hundreds of prototype guns? Who buys them and ships them to a bunch of swamp hillbillies?

rustic hearth
rustic hearth
hallow kraken
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Does he smuggle hundreds in constantly though? His methods seem limited

rustic hearth
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Probably

hallow kraken
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I’ll just ignore because game logic

nocturne dome
junior pecan
nocturne dome
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Well its wrong

split yacht
random lava
# junior pecan I had been told the chinaman dlc pushed it forward in time

that is a misinterpetation of this part: "After facing Nian year after year with brutal, bloody success, these two Legendary Hunters immigrated to the United States in late 1895, in spite of the Geary Act, with help from both Trevors and Huff. Their skills would prove invaluable in the fight against the corruption in Louisiana, as well as the weapons and tools they brought with them. In 1896, the Chinese New Year would begin on the 13th: a bad omen for what would happen that year in Louisiana."

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it still talks about 1896 being in the future not at the present time in the game

split yacht
random lava
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that is not what that is foreshadowing since it clearly states that their help would prove invaluable in the fight against the corruption in Louisiana which is the outbreak

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it is still 1895 in game

split yacht
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The way I read that quote is that the Geary act 1895 and the corruption are two separate points, with one in reference to 1895, and the other in reference to 96. As I’ve said before, the dolch (c96) began its production in 1896, so it must be set then for the dolch to be usable in-game

random lava
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No that is explained as it being a prototype

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it is still 1895 in the game 🙂

nocturne dome
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Same with the auto 5

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Although

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This is what the dolch should look like

split yacht
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Looking at the in game dolch, the only major differences I can see are the colour of the handle, and the overall look of the hammer. The in game hammer has a hole through the middle, whereas the image above doesn’t

nocturne dome
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Stepped barrel, different grip angle I think, different grips the image does have a hole it's just that it's a cone shaped hammer, etc

split yacht
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Yeah, u right, they are different

earnest jungle
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But wait if these two came over with the help of Philip and Huff in late 1895 doesn’t that would mean several events we thought happened in 1895 happened in 1896. If Huff is alive after the summer of 1895 than that means he dies either in the fall the 1895, the winter of 1895-1896, or the spring of 1896 and the summer that Chambers is writing about in his final letter is the summer of 1896.
I wish we knew how long the Louisiana Event lasted

severe mulch
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Does anyone have the complete mastery of scrapbeak?

eternal crystal
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I can't seem to find 3

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Rest is on Wiki

severe mulch
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Much appreciated Bu.

eternal crystal
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No problem, let me know if you need anything!

brave nymph
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@nocturne dome , @split yacht The dolch in game isn't a Masuer, it's an Astra, a Spanish copy of the gun developed in the 30's that's why there's a difference

nocturne dome
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Which astra 😳

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And the astra wasn't really a copy

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Was kinda better than the mauser one

brave nymph
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900 / 901

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You right, the 903 is much better

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Could be based off the weapons produced in China too

nocturne dome
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The ones made in china

severe mulch
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I'll take you on that already. Seems I'm missing the 3rd page for scrabpeak and just realized. Any chance of acquiring that as well? @eternal crystal

eternal crystal
amber harbor
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It should all be in the pinned lore doc

severe mulch
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I find the lore docs to be always incomplete, nor missing things. Not sure if accidental or intentional.

eternal crystal
# severe mulch I'll take you on that already. Seems I'm missing the 3rd page for scrabpeak and ...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit

Google Docs
HUNT:Showdown Lore

Lore Document The purpose of this document is to reduce clutter on #lore-discussion, and to collate the information we have on lore within HUNT:Showdown. Character List Coroner Amos - Mentioned in “desk of a hunter”. Possibly the coroner at Blanchet cemetery Dr. Jones (Philip Huff Jo...

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We need to do a cleanup in the pinned posts

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I have said to do it soon but not had the time, so it's my fault

severe mulch
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At first glance scrabpeak is missing the mastery 2, and immolator is missing the last part of it's mastery regarding the black hand

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These are the docs I'm referring to.

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Regardless. If anyone has the in-game scrabpeak master 3, I'd appreciated it if shared here.

split yacht
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Think I just got mastery 3, I’m finishing up a quickplay then I’ll transcribe it

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Nope I got mastery 2

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Sorry

lyric arrow
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@brave nymph Pretty sure its not an Astra 900.

It is a standard early version of the Mauser C96.
Diffrences to the astra is the stamping directly above the trigger, which is way deeper and shaped diffrently and the step underneath the barrel.

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This is a standard early model mauser C96 which is almost if not exactly what we have ingame

open pike
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So after reading the lore bit for the “Rougarou”, is it safe to assume this may be some foreshadowing of a night map exclusive baddie? Not a boss but another map enemy?

rotund ferry
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The dolch is not an astra, if I'm not mistaken the astra is outside the time era that hunt is based in, the mauser c96 was invented in an accurate time range.

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In the trailer, it says 1895, which is the date, the astra was invented in 1927

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Where as the mauser c96 was invented in 1896

daring scroll
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It is 10000% not an Astra

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I would know

hasty dome
scarlet copper
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it's clearly a mauser, another thing is that one of legendary skin for the dolch is marked with a 1896 signature

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so the game doesn't only take place in 1895, but around this era

nocturne dome
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Which it should be

wind echo
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Whats up with all the abandoned animals throughout the map (dogs, chickens, horses)?

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How long have they been there? Why were they left behind? :((

untold blaze
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They didn’t get corrupted I believe, and were left behind when they’re owners either, died, or got corrupted

nocturne dome
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Idk how they are still alive but it's best not to look too much into it

junior pecan
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Probably being suspended just like the AI

brave nymph
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Does anyone know when the first production run for Mauser were, cause most of them have a angled grip, not the straight down one in game

midnight falcon
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Sorry 1896

nocturne dome
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they had stepped barrels and checkered grips

languid falcon
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Well, you might notice thst the corruption only attacks humans

Sure, grunts eat horse corpses, but beyond that

This “plague” seems to be human centric

Hellhounds could be considered apart of this as “man’s best friend”

urban geode
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The first astra came out in 1928

brave nymph
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@urban geode , We were trying to see what version it was, since on the C96 the grip is angled backwards more so than the one in game

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Cause some of the Chinese Astras have a straighter grip

earnest jungle
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For the Love of G-d and all that is Holy it’s just an anachronistic gun it’s not the end of the world and it’s not that big a deal!

junior pecan
earnest jungle
junior pecan
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Yes they were in people

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No that doesnt count

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If we’re going by that we can stretch this to horses, and chickens, and cage dogs, and crows for all being domesticated

earnest jungle
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The water devils we see in game are at the end of their life cycle not the beginning.

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They start their life cycles as parasites that infect humans and eat their way out of their host once they reach maturity.

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While inside their human hosts they disable their ability to use dark sight

junior pecan
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Yes but they arent water devils at that point

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Just tape worms or some other ingested parasite

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Its the blood that changes them

earnest jungle
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I disagree with you on that point.

junior pecan
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Which reminds me, did bunny bite his owner in the lore?

earnest jungle
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Didn’t get the chance

junior pecan
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I have some vague recollection of that

earnest jungle
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Bunny would wake his owner up by biting his ear but it was most likely the kind of affectionate play bites dogs give.

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I suspect however the Water Devils were Water Devils long before they infect their hosts.

earnest jungle
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Also the Hell Hounds may have been around since 1885 as there are sketches of them in Fort Carmick.

earnest jungle
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Ever since I read the last two entries of the Immolator I have long suspected there is an environmental aspect to the Sculptor’s invasion of our realm.

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I don’t think the Deadzones were picked arbitrarily.

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The Researcher speculated that the location where Reverend Jeremiah was beaten were volatile, likewise some humans especially humans who grew up in the Dead Zones had natural immunities to the Corruption.

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I suspect the desd zones are areas where the energies of the Sculptor’s realm already poor through naturally in limited quantities. Enough that some humans gained a resistance to them, and enough for it to effect some animals and people decades and centuries before this specific incident occurred.

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This would explain Hellhounds being present a decade before the outbreak and for it to create monsters like Nika Felis.

junior pecan
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But yeah, this seems plausible

earnest jungle
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This would also explain why the Dead Zones do not appear to be expanding.

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Think of it like an oasis.

junior pecan
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I already believe in as much rex

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Just with a different angle

earnest jungle
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The desert sand is our world and the water line beneath the sand is the sculptors’s energies. An oasis (dead zone) forms when the sand dips low enough to expose the water line.

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I’m not trying to convince you I’m trying to explain my logic.

junior pecan
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Ah, dont mind me then

earnest jungle
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Within the Deadzones the Sculptor can run riot but it takes time for these dead zones to spread. And I suspect the longer these dead zones are allowed to fester the easier it is for the Sculptor to expand them.

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But it doesn’t spread by expanding the dead zones borders, but by tearing upon knew pockets of the Sculptor’s influence. Which could explain the outbreak going on in Upstate New York.

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When the water line rises it does not first over take the high dunes that surround the oasis, but create new smaller oasis where the sand is lower.

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When I have a minute I’ll draw a diagram to explain what I mean.

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Just as thr water level rising will expose more new oasis before it over takes the whole of the dunes the Sculptor’s influence spreading will create new dead zones before it makes bigger dead zones

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Rather than pushing “outwards” I suspect the sculptor’s realm is pushing “upwards”

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But this assumes the Sculptor is Chthonic in nature.

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The Sculptor’s invasion is not a tidal wave but a well spring.

junior pecan
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Fits with christian association of hell as vaguely downward and heaven vaguely upward. Both are just surrogate directions. Before flight, above and below were mostly inaccessible with exception to special circumstances such as the tower of Babylon. Its only metaphorically up and down

earnest jungle
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Those directions are more than just vague. When the dead die they go downwards as they are buried beneath the ground, while the celestial bodies which have long been held to be gods themselves are upwards.

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The underworld the land of the dead is bellow us and the heavens above us.

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In that same vein the infected descend bellow us into the earth and rise from the earth as monsters.

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I do however believe the Sculptor reigns over the land of the dead.

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Why would the Lord of the Dead help the twins foil his plots if he was the sculptor?

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And what would the Lord of the Dead gain from any of this?

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More subjects? Everyone who lives becomes his subject eventually.

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I think some other Chthonic entity is responsible for this.

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The Devs have said this invasion is driven by hunger, so I suppose the question becomes: what is hungry and what are they eating?

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But now I’m babbling like Tamrat

nocturne dome
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There isn't just one sculptor

earnest jungle
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Question for any wandering Devs who see this: Is the information in these pictures still cannon? I doubt it but you never know.

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languid falcon
tardy spear
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Some hunters ate maggoty meat, and then exploded into worms

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Like "worms from every orifice" exploded

earnest jungle
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The question is however: were those worms Water Devil’s before or after they chowed down on their hunter hosts?

tardy spear
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I'm guessing that they weren't devils before, they were the maggots that are in most Grunts and other corpses. Once they were in the hunters Sculptor went "hey that's neat" and made a devil out of it.

reef wind
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Why do hunters kill each other if they are all part of the American Hunters Association. And why does AHA allow hunters to kill each other. I thought the point of the whole association was to kill evil supernatural things to help out humans. If AHA wanted they could just make it a rule to not kill other hunters or their membership would be revoked. So why even allow it. It doesn't make any sense on why they would be okay with their own members dying and killing each other.

from a story perspective it would make more sense if they were all rogue hunters or private contractors destroying the competition.

rotund ferry
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The way I see it, it's sort of an "what happens in the Bayou, stays in the Bayou" thing. And who is gonna go into the zombie-infested swamp to check whether those other hunters really died to zombies or gunshots?

proud kayak
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The hunters are probably blinded with wanting a reward that they will do anything to get a bounty for it

reef wind
# rotund ferry The way I see it, it's sort of an "what happens in the Bayou, stays in the Bayou...

Well that's assuming everyone but the bounty extraction always dies. It would be a very awkward conversation seeing someone who tried killing you in the Bayou back at the association and be like "I didn't mean anything by it". Also I always assumed that the extraction wagons and boats had drivers inside which would question why there were so many different gun shots and why only a few returned. It's a bit hard to believe that every returning hunter would stay quiet about it to the point AHA would have no clue.

reef wind
wind echo
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Wasn't the director of the AHA assassinated? I get the impression the organization is in chaos.

tardy spear
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All of the leaders of the AHA are either dead or banished to shadow dimensions. The organization is actively collapsing.

earnest jungle
tardy spear
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The AHA never had much authority over its own members to begin with. They provided no training and no equipment, everything was left up to each hunter individually. Sometimes they formed groups that equipped and trained each toher, most times it was just "here's your demon ritual, no go die in the swamp"

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Very seldom did hunters that fought each other in the hunting grounds run into each other elsewhere, and a lot of the time it went poorly (as mentioned in that one dude's journal about how Hunters would use his home as a rest station).

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From what I understand, the AHA's direction over its members began and ended at "here's where you need to go, here's who can sell you gear, here's what we'll pay for a bounty."

reef wind
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"They provided no training and no equipment" If that's true then how do you explain the AHA special ammo boxes, that look like owo, left for the hunters by delivery carriages/boats?

rustic hearth
junior pecan
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The boxes are probably manufactured by V or compiled by trevors and marked then shipped to whoever will buy them

tardy spear
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From what I understand those were actually setup by Lynch. One is mentioned in the entry where she gives Phantom his arm.

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@reef wind also the best answer is "gameplay probably" but it looks like those caravans were all destroyed, so it's likely they were equipment brought in by other hunters, then abandoned when they all, you know, fuckin' died. Equipment made by AHA-affiliated dudes would be marked with the symbol for them. And like I said, while the AHA doesn't have any centralized structure really, the various people in important positions did have their own teams that they would have geared up and prepared. Lynch, Huff and Trevors were all mentioned to have their own goons.

light solar
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Is there a lore reason we dont have FUCKEN ALIGATORS, I grew up in north florida and those Sum'bitches are everywhere and I want to fight one and/or use one to rob a gas station

deep quest
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water devils

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but it also says some species escaped them

tardy spear
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Alligators canonically are still alive in the bayou

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It says so very specifically. I'm starting to think that they did this in order to keep people annoyed.

glacial shale
tardy spear
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g8r

nocturne dome
languid falcon
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Two hunters ate some questionable meat

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Didnt feel so good

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Went to lay down on the beach, eventually driven by screamin pain into the water

hasty dome
amber harbor
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The aha really wants the bounties as they use them to prolong life, so they really can't afford to choose who delivers. So what if you murdered half the server? Youll probably get a bounty on your head internally, but theyll still pay out the bounty token . You must also remember that demon vaccines are a pretty niche thing, so hunters are ppl who thought themselves already damned or had a good enough motivation to warrant being sent to hell in their belief system.
The pvp is player driven as Rexli said. Sure you could be peaceful but if you try that in game, youll most likely be shot dead

junior pecan
amber harbor
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I recall it being mentioned in some entry, not sure where though

junior pecan
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Its some of the newer ones, maybe vandal? But thats just an abstract interpretation, it could be a lot of different things going on

winged spoke
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question: when we choose to play as a legendary hunter and we die as them, how are we able to play as them again? is it similar to how the bosses come back, being copies the Sculptor made and all?

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i.e. was there one legendary hunter who was killed and now we just play as copies of them?

junior pecan
stoic turtle
junior pecan
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Nah, some of them are already dead

stoic turtle
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Also, if the hunters really are getting reincarnated that means they must have a use to the sculptor

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Except redneck

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Da fuck redneck doin

fierce sinew
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Trying to find canon and the timeline in gameplay systems is a fool's errand. Not every mechanic will have corresponding lore, some suspension of disbelief is necessary.

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Also I think at this point it's safe to say blackcoat is canonically dead. The game takes place in a mix of 1895/6, and I'm pretty sure he died before 96.

tardy spear
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Black Coat is very much dead. We don't play legendary hunters in canon. Why would the Prodigal Daughter be on the same team as the Archaeologist, who she's trying to kill? Why would Black be out in the swamps when he was asked not to so he didn't get killed (since, you know, he's like 90% of the reason we know how to fight the sculptor). It's just a cool thing that lets us see the hunters from the lore, it's not supposed to be canonical.

winged spoke
tardy spear
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Not BlackCoat, Black.

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Harold Black I think is his full name?

winged spoke
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ohhh yes Mr. Black. i read it too fast lol

stoic turtle
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Would be cool if he was an actual fleshed out character

untold blaze
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I love how lore wise the Bone Doctor just kinda has his own little posse of a sort

tardy spear
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He's doin' his thing

sour oracle
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Are there any lore hints on how the plague spread in the bayou?

split yacht
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The hive and later grunt entries to me suggest that flies lived inside human hosts, then changed them. In the case of hives it’s very blunt when it says insects flew into a living host and snapped her in two, and as for grunts, it’s a bit more hazy, suggesting they are ‘not dead, but life that should not be’ and that you can hear buzzing coming from them. Idk for sure tho.

sour oracle
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Thanks for the references. Yea I mean grunts can outrun a hunter haha. They seem somewhat vital and not dead. Gonna check out the entries.

lofty geode
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@fallen relic Great idea

fiery sun
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What's up with the weapons book entries for custom ammo? It seems to be about AHA members and associates rather than the ammo.

nocturne dome
paper knot
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are the servers up yet?

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oh no wrong topic

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sorry guys

tardy spear
forest condor
severe mulch
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Is anyone able to share part 3 of Scrabpeaks mastery?

amber harbor
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This one?

gentle yarrow
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Not the right chat, try the off topic channel

fierce sinew
tardy spear
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I always assumed the game took place after the whole schism where the entire leadership of the AHA died, which would mean that Black Coat was super dead.

fierce sinew
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I think the game is supposed to just generally represent the period where Louisiana was having big problems, both a little bit before the AHA mostly collapsed and afterward.

winged spoke
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has someone made a timeline of all major events in the game?

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or as close as we can get

nocturne dome
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Devs have confirmed it isnt

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And it's pretty obvious it isnt

earnest jungle
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I don't think the in game corresponds to any specific point in the timeline

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What we encounter in game is cannon, but the hunts themselves are not canon if that makes any sense.

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It's canon in the sense that there was a butcher, there was a spider, there were grunts etc. etc.

nocturne dome
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Devs have said it's 1895

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Lore says it's 1895

tardy spear
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Ha, this guy gets his lore from the devs!

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Real men get their lore from defunct message boards acting as a front for the Russian government.

rotund ferry
earnest jungle
# nocturne dome Devs have said it's 1895

But when in 1895? Early spring, late autumn? Winter? If it’s autumn than the Black Coat should be dead, if it’s early spring the Scrapbeak shouldn’t be here yet. I don’t think the in game hunts correspond to any specific point in the timeline but more or less represent all hunts across the timeline.

sour oracle
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gonna keep reading I guess

tardy spear
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There's very little that talks about the sculptor directly, you've gotta infer things by reading all the other entries.

amber harbor
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@severe mulch I added stuff to the lore doc, you can take a look, see whats missing

junior pecan
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Pretty much nothing on sculptor himself

rotund ferry
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is there an explanation behind the Plague? at all? like its origin, is it bloodborne or mystical i have so many questions

junior pecan
rotund ferry
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Fuuuuck

junior pecan
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Ditto

fierce sinew
junior pecan
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I think that was a misinterpretation, its somewhat ambiguous

fierce sinew
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"According to the zodiac, 1896 was the year of the Fire Monkey, and these fusees were named for the year of their debut in the Bayou." Not really that ambiguous.

junior pecan
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I stand very corrected

nocturne dome
fierce sinew
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In that case there's conflicting statements.

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But really the game just represents the whole event, not a specific year, like most multiplayer games.

nocturne dome
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Or the fire monkeys got in the bayou in 1895 for the upcoming 1896 year

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:/

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No the game is specifically 1895

fierce sinew
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Except for the part where Chinese New Year is in February.

nocturne dome
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Yes the upcoming year

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Shipping times in 1895 from China to Louisiana are insane

fierce sinew
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"these fusees were named for the year of their debut in the Bayou"

earnest jungle
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This is why I’m advocating for a “the in game hunts aren’t set in a specific point in time but are representative of the whole timeline approach.”

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Because there’s no way for this game to actually be set in a specific point in the timeline without breaking the lore.

fierce sinew
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Exactly

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When they started the game and there wasn't as much lore, it was possible but now it just isn't.

earnest jungle
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The inclusion of the Black Coat means the game must be set before the AHA goes to shit, but all of the infighting seems to indicate this takes place after the AHA goes to shit.

fierce sinew
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I mean more simply the inclusion of the Black Coat means it's before AHA went to shit but the Fire Monkeys mean it's after. There's no way to reconcile the timeline properly with in game stuff.

earnest jungle
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So the approach I take is: if it shows up in game that means at some point it showed up in the bayou during the Louisiana Incident

fierce sinew
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Just like there's no way to reconcile Germans armed with BARs in the Battle of the Somme in Battlefield 1.

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It's generally representative, not specifically accurate.

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Cause it's a multiplayer game.

worn yoke
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Or to keep the WWI comparison, Beyond the Wire

fierce sinew
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It is, and Hunt is also an arcade game. Point is multiplayer games requires suspension of disbelief and play loose with time periods.

junior pecan
junior pecan
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Well, god we’re getting into vision again

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*-0.5

worn yoke
fierce sinew
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It could be argued it's as arcadey, but that's not really a lore discussion.

worn yoke
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Then again, minus all the fucking scopes in hunt, it's a lot more grounded weapon-wise than BF1

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No it really cant

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Weapon wise the guns all work well minus the Avto, that shits just stupid

fierce sinew
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Lack of variable ads times, swap speeds, movement speeds, extremely basic ballistics, how effective jump spam/crouchspam/headducking is and so on. Hunt isn't a sim, it's just as arcadey as CoD or battlefield, just in a different way.

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And that's fine.

junior pecan
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Black women of the reich and all that

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Thats V though, i cant remember if there was anything similar in I

tardy spear
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So how about that lore gentlemen

narrow flicker
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So could the new map be located in Asia? In the new map teaser It talks about new environs and widening the horizon and in spirit of nian dlc it states that the North star wants to learn something that would help in the fight on her home turf. It might also introduce new monsters

trim rover
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I don’t think they’d go somewhere so foreign....it would make all the weapons make no sense at all really.

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Though, I’d be down for them to add an Arisaka

narrow flicker
trim rover
narrow flicker
cold badger
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In the sequel we will see Australian Hunter Association

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Hellkangaroos replace hellhounds

earnest jungle
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I suspect the new map is going to be somewhere outside of Louisiana but inside of the United States and I have a couple possible locations from least to most likely:

• Oregon/Washington: The Legendary Rifle Goldrush references Locust Grove Oregon a mining camp located on the Columbia River and the New Map is going to be a mining camp located by a river/lake.

• New York State: in the Christmas Lore it was revealed that there is a growing incident in New York. New York also has a history of mining and quarrying.

West Virginia: In both 1876 and 1887 there were incidents in the Monongahela Forest. Nika Felis the Monongahela Wild Cat killed four people for as of yet unclear reasons. And the region has a long history of supernatural incidents according to the locals. And West Virginia is famous for its mines and quarries.

trim rover
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I’m hoping for maybe the classic ‘Wild West’ look

rotund ferry
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Hey can someone who understands the lore a bit better than I do explain why every hunter has dark sight? And what exactly is dark sight

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Powers leaked from the opening from the sculptor? Or did the sculptor accidentally bestow it on the hunters?

severe mulch
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Just checked the hunt docks. Appreciate your hard work brother @amber harbor . Now I can finally get started with this new boss.

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Also, mind sharing what makes you suspect the map locations? @earnest jungle

earnest jungle
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We know the new map is a mining area and that it’s mountainous which rules out Louisiana

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So it has to be somewhere where there’s both mountains and mines.

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I suspect it will be somewhere in the Appalachia

severe mulch
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Really. How do we know that?

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Have the devs shared information over the new maps?

amber harbor
severe mulch
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That's the old serum though, isn't it?

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New one does not have side effects such as the old which is provided by lynch. Hence why females are allowed within the hunters association nowadays.

untold blaze
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What is the Syrum made out of anyway?

severe mulch
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Lwa juices

untold blaze
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pardon?

severe mulch
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Or atleast the old one is. We know lynch used a still alive body to attract a lwa. After the lwa is within the body, she would then distill it in to the serum.

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So in other words, Lwa juices.

junior pecan
junior pecan
# untold blaze *pardon?*

Distilled organic matter of a cross-dimensional entity. See below for the only theory ive heard so far.

untold blaze
junior pecan
# rotund ferry Powers leaked from the opening from the sculptor? Or did the sculptor accidental...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RQLkkZ3kSmtl9yG7zmkFiguyxOzuMkung-VXjtKKcY8/edit

Google Docs
Function of the AHA Inoculum

Although many rituals and spiritual practices are known to us in the lore, their functioning principles (sometimes referred to as soul physics) are unknown. An analysis of the ability known as “Dark Sight” combined with a few plausible and even likely assumptions has given me possible insight int...

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Thats my theory. It covers some other things as well. I think rexli or somebody else had the idea that it just gave humans the immaterial perceptions of non-humans

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I need to invent a word for this

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Vacian

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Coining it

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Vac=empty, ian=relating or belonging to

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So now i dont have to keep struggling to spell immaterial

untold blaze
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I like that theory

north knoll
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Is there a good source for lore about punt: touchdown? I see lots of snippets, but am looking for a larger body of information

untold blaze
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Ingame Books

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Are a great source of lore

dapper slate
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The lore comes from the weapon and monster encyclopedias

nocturne dome
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Idc about that but from a gameplay perspective

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I'd rather have a mauser 1893/95

severe mulch
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I'm seeing a lot of grammatical errors in the docs regarding scrapbeak. Normally it doesn't even matter, but I want to make sure other errors are not present. Do you perhaps have the complete scrabpeak mastery at hand so I can check it? @amber harbor

amber harbor
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I had the pictures from this channel and ran it through a png to text converter, didnt reall check anything

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I'll look for them and reply i guess

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4th

severe mulch
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WOuld be much appreciated.

amber harbor
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5

severe mulch
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Waiting for 3,4 and 5 then.

trim rover
junior pecan
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Definitely

cold badger
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i don't want an Arisaka because balancewise it would be exactly the same as the mosin

junior pecan
cold badger
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lebel has 10 shots though

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mosin and arisaka are both 5 shot bolt rifles that operate more or less idenitcally

junior pecan
cold badger
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yeah lebel has 25 year reload

rustic hearth
tulip quarry
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lore wise, couldn't the hunters be charged for murder for murdering each other in the Bayou?

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the goal was to banish the monsters residing there not each other too

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just a thought I had murdering a Whiteshirt wading trough Scupper Lake yesterday pepelaugh

rotund ferry
tulip quarry
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right, like any sane person would go investigating in there

quick bear
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Though, lore-wise, murder in the bayou is surely less common than it is in-game, right?

restive storm
# quick bear Though, lore-wise, murder in the bayou is surely *less common* than it is in-gam...

there is no concrete lore on that. we only know people started killing each other relatively soon, sometimes cause its easier to get money that way othertimes cause the veterans started to like it, the Tier3s dont dress that way cause they wanna be mistaken for a bush by the butcher after all. we can only assume that there is a bunch of killing considering the amount of whiteshirts the AHA just throws into the bayou

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after that its speculateing

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tier3s/veterans are probably in a way million dollar men to the AHA so surely they are somewhat protective of them and would probably smell a fish if a super experienced guy would go missing all of the sudden and another team happened to be in the area at the same time brought back tokens and "didnt hear or see anyone else"

junior pecan
earnest jungle
tardy spear
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The scrapbeak lore isn't the Hunters being put on trial, it's Scrapbeak's son.

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Unless there was some reference I missed.

earnest jungle
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Avis Jr is able to afford legal representation he absolutely shouldn’t be able to and is keenly aware of the AHA’s activities.

junior pecan
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I had presumed it was just an attorney

earnest jungle
junior pecan
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Could just be ferry fees in and out of stillwater and lawson

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Or he could be a guide, but does that count as a hunter?

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Strelok vs Red so to speak. Similar but not the same

earnest jungle
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“I don’t know how on this green Earth you got the money together to pay my fees”

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Either he’s a guide or a hinter either way the AHA is paying for his defense. And besides a public defender would have just told him to take a plea deal.

junior pecan
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If hes a hunter then AHA technically isnt paying for his defense, theyre paying for bounties. And if hes a guide AHA isnt paying him, hunters are

earnest jungle
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The point of who is paying for the defense is besides the point, what matters is this indicates that the courts are aware of the killings in the Bayou.

junior pecan
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Agreed, just wanted to emphasize

nocturne dome
cold badger
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ok

sonic berry
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i want in on the plague doctor lore. but i am guessing their isnt a lot yet since he is new.

earnest jungle
#

The plague doctor appears to be connected to the Scrapbeak in someway but how I do not know.

sonic berry
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Well From what can be seen from the trailer and his out fit if you look close you can see it was the plague doctor who made scrap beak into who he was. poor soul that fella. But why. and other thing did the doctor do to him that made him into a crazy monster instead of well.. trying to return back to humanity

tardy spear
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The plague doctor only gave him his legs after he got them blasted off in the war, we don't know if he had anything to do with the transformation afterwards.

fierce sinew
#

Also I'm going to be that guy and say that maybe they just used the plague doctor in that trailer because they didn't want to make a brand new skin for that, so they just took a decently appropriate one they already had, and we aren't supposed to assume it's the same person.

tardy spear
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That sounds perfectly logical, I am going to choose not to believe it.

summer pilot
#

If you guys/gals don’t mind explain to me the lore of the AHA organization?

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*Association

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I’m really interested in learning this game

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I love playing it and love to know more

junior pecan
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There is none of note

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Association in name alone, loose confederation of posse’s that surround particularly successful and entrepreneurial hunters.
Phillip Huff Jones is supposed to be in charge, but its not clear if he was elected to or inherited the position.

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For some reason Lynch was disappointed in his handling of the Louvent, and instead of bringing this up with the elite class of hunters and deposing him either electorally or by force, she just had him killed and threw everything into chaos

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So no, we have no real lore on them. We dont know what it does, we dont know how it works, we dont know anything

flat snow
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Hello, does anyone know what the material is called that we find on clues and in boss lair?

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Like, does it even have a name?

rustic hearth
flat snow
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So, there is a material around clues. What is the clue itself made of. The same material can be found around the map here and there. I’m curious if this material has a name, given its prominence in hunts world.

image0.jpg
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It’s otherworldly.

rustic hearth
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Probably something from the sculptors realm

untold blaze
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Kind of looks like chitin

flat snow
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And like, there is different types of material, like with this interesting mesh.

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And I assume these are some type of egg?

junior pecan
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But its not exclusive to it

flat snow
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interesting

junior pecan
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We usually called it chitin but it does appear more papery, like wasp nests

rustic hearth
untold blaze
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And the stuff on the armored is the same stuff around the clues I think

tardy spear
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It was also mentioned in a QnA a long while back that the clues themselves are little holes in reality the boss leaves behind.

untold blaze
junior pecan
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Defunct qna?

earnest jungle
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Based on some of the old lore on the websites the clues are in fact holes connect our realm and the sculptor’s realm.

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December 18 2017

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This is the post in question.

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The clues are tears in our realty they burn where we would bleed and when you tear one open it feels like you’re being engulfed by hellish fire.

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And in lore and in early versions of the game when you opened a clue you would very briefly see through the eyes of the boss monster and that’s how you figured out where it was

untold blaze
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That honestly sounds like a really cool system, the whole seeing through the eyes of the boss

hallow kraken
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Yeah, why don’t we have that anymore?

earnest jungle
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It was removed because it was deemed that the feature left you too vulnerable during the time when the vision occurs. Frankly I think they should bring it back because not only is it cool but it’s well worth the risk.

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For experienced hunters it will tip them off quicker as to where the boss is and potentially may reveal if other hunters have already found the boss.

edgy carbon
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If the system was not working as it should, then yeah, it should be changed

earnest jungle
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Praise the lore gods we’re getting more lore!!!

untold blaze
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Hell Yeah!

violet ridge
junior pecan
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Anything about that new writer

earnest jungle
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We’re getting a Centenial Sniper, The Rival and Specter are getting penny shot, the Terminus and C&K are getting slugs, the Uppercut is getting explosive, and the Sparks is getting FMJ.

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All that means more Lore entries in the book of weapons.

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1 full page and seven lore snippets.

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And I am really excited for the latter because the researchers notes have the benefit of hindsight.

junior pecan
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Meh, minimal stuff

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We’ll see how it is

earnest jungle
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That minimal stuff can have great significance for the lore. The Researcher’s Notes has been used to clarify questions and point us towards overlooked aspects of the lore

violet ridge
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I only choose to support the lore people if they name those orange eggs after me

sacred token
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I am pretty sure this has been talked about before, but I am curious, are the bosses we are fighting unique? Like, in the lore, are these 4 bosses 1 of a kind or are there many of each?

fierce sinew
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One of the lore entries for the spider I think talks about them being surprised that it came back after they killed it.

stoic turtle
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Would be cool to see some of the lore behind perks

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Like, what exactly do perks like bloodless do to a hunter’s body?

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Or like bulwark, for instance

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Does it cause any physiology changes?

untold blaze
earnest jungle
sacred token
untold blaze
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Yeah, because eventually you’d end up with an eldritch abomination

deep quest
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i think it’d be cool to have an ada shell legendary skin

glacial schooner
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What factions are there aside from Night of the Hunt?

earnest jungle
ornate rose
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What kind of music gender was trending in Louisiana swamps in 1890?

earnest jungle
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And I imagine Jazz, Folk, and Bluegrass or their primordial ancestors.

ornate rose
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My cellphone miss correction ssorry

ornate rose
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👍

vast dune
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It would be v cool imo gameplay-wise aswell to be able to recognize what perks people are running by the 'mutations'

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It would be funny af seeing let's say Hornskin + Salveskin + Gator legs

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I think we might get a weird looking reptilian a'la X-men 😆

twin turtle
earnest jungle
twin turtle
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The official hunt

dapper ibex
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Prison shank

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He has cuffs on

rotund ferry
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Asylum escapee

earnest jungle
dapper ibex
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I mean that better be a legendary knife skin

junior pecan
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Thank GOD, more monetisation

earnest jungle
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That’s Capitalism baby. Unless your profits are increasing exponentially forever you’re failing.

edgy carbon
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What's the cabin? I've seen it been mentioned in the gun entries and some docs which talk about it being in the place where hunters get their contracts

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Aparently it's some weaponsmith's place to hide.

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(Or that's what I understood)

junior pecan
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Finch’s cabin, he doles out rewards for bounties and other contracts

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He’s a doctor of some sort iirc

rustic hearth
stoic turtle
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I has quession

Which of the legendary hunters are most likely to be stoners (if they knew weed existed)

deep quest
stoic turtle
oak nymph
earnest jungle
oak nymph
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Well, not at cost but that is a part of it, it is a game with consistent updates and all that cost money. Making profit also isn't bad and they've hardly been unfair. Any and all content updates that effect gameplay are free. Only cosmetic DLCs to bring in money and that seems like a fair way to make money off the game by making it totally and completely optional

earnest jungle
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I’m sure it is the goal of the Devs to make a great and fun game they wouldn’t be in this industry if they didn’t want to make video games. But the Devs answer to the CEOs, who answers to the Shareholders. And they are not in it for the art of making video games they’re in it to make more money.

charred spade
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And they don't exist in the lore 👀

oak nymph
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Yeah, that's fair. I think its just important to recognise that its not all bad and I feel like the games been pretty fair. I agree that if they start throwing in like, lootboxes or something, yeah, screw that. But as long as its free updates and transparently offered prices, seems fair to me. And far, sorry, Leviatha. XD

I did mean to ask though, I missed thoughts on the Poison song. Did anyone ever come up with a solid guess on who it was? My going guess was Prodigal Daughter but wasn't super confident in that

earnest jungle
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I suspect it’s Lynch

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She has very femme-fatale feel like the subject of the song.

tulip quarry
wet sparrow
untold blaze
dapper slate
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Whats the deal with charlie salter?

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I’ve seen part of his story in the crown and king encyclopedia but i only have one entry

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Is he related to the other salter?

earnest jungle
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Charlie Salter is the older Brother of William Salter and has come to Louisiana to find his brother and bring him home. But finds his brother too little too late.

visual aurora
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I hope I don't bother or anything but I've been in a Hunt fever again lately so why not check out the lore, I thought. It's just that all those organisations, "cults" I guess, names, have no meaning to me yet. I just want to ask, can someone here tell me the best place to start with the "research"? Should I just follow the pinged messages, is the a forum or something, are there good videos? Feel free to ping me!

amber harbor
amber harbor
visual aurora
desert oxide
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Went back a ways, and couldn't find anything in chat. Has it been discussed Who all The Prodigal Daughter (Sarah Burton) Wants to kill?
I know her Sparks Rifle (The Reckoning) has 3 bullets in it each with a name:
Elise - Presumably the Hunter known as The Archaeologist (Elise Austin)
Elwood - ?
Richard - ?
and Two empty slots
This matches up with the rifles description of 5 Bullets with 5 names, Assuming 2 have been used already.
In the DLC photos in the store there is a name on a wanted poster: Baker Davies (although it also shows a photo of soldiers with 5 of them circled, which would rule out Elise (as she is female) so unsure how reliable the DLC art is in determining if he is a viable target or not)
Stands to reason, he was one of the 2 already used bullets if its a good source.
Leaves 1 used shot unaccounted for still, and I haven't found anything on a Richard, or Elwood

The rifle has the name "Anna" Engraved on it, and I presume again that this is her mothers name, as the rifle is called The Reckoning and not Anna

The possibility is Low, although still possible, that "The Revenant" is one of her targets, due to how he died ("Shot unceremoniously at a poker game").

Anyone find any evidence or writings as to her other targets beyond Elise? Or evidence as to who has been eliminated?

amber harbor
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Elwood Finch is the guy who pays out bounties and there was something about his wife being dead iirc

dapper ibex
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Is there a reason behind the hunters dark sight?

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Also how don’t we get infected

junior pecan
# dapper ibex Is there a reason behind the hunters dark sight?

Only theories

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RQLkkZ3kSmtl9yG7zmkFiguyxOzuMkung-VXjtKKcY8/edit

Google Docs
Function of the AHA Inoculum

Although many rituals and spiritual practices are known to us in the lore, their functioning principles (sometimes referred to as soul physics) are unknown. An analysis of the ability known as “Dark Sight” combined with a few plausible and even likely assumptions has given me possible insight int...

dapper ibex
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Oh

edgy carbon
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They said they are planning on realising more info about it in the future

shy portal
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what do you think the ultimate goal of the sculptor is? what does it want? trying to make a dnd game need info

junior pecan
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Which is like, defunct via absence. If it were legit it would have more evidence, no sane writer would just sit on it.

fiery tartan
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why there is no aligators in the swamps

inland flicker
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eaten by water devils

fiery tartan
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makes sense

earnest jungle
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Actually according to the Water Devil Lore. Alligators are among the only animals that have been hardy enough to survive the outbreak.

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The reason why there are no Alligators is likely an example of story and gameplay segregation.

junior pecan
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Or was that a mandela effect

dapper slate
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What was wrong with willie salter?

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I understand that he had mental issues but is this related to an illness or something more supernatural?

earnest jungle
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It’s possible he was possessed by the Sculptor

tardy spear
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He was crazy, the sculptor enhanced the crazy

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He was schitzophrenic specifically

willow cargo
solar monolith
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Got a Question, and I hope it hasn't been answered already, but what's up with the Legendary Hunters when they die In game? are they Not canonical(Don't know if that's the right word for it) or is there some kind of wizardry going on?

amber onyx
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Do we have any notice of “The Sundering"?

molten forge
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Legendary hunters dying is not canon afaik @solar monolith

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Especially since you can get multiple of the same hunters in one match

rotund ferry
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Technically legendary hunters/weapons are unique, which is why initially you were unable to buy multiple of the same legendary weapon at the same time. It's a classic clash of lore vs gameplay

solar monolith
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gotcha

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thank ya

earnest jungle
small abyss
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Absolutely love the lore in this game, great job devs!

untold blaze
random kernel
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any good youtube video that explains why the bayou is the way it is?

patent seal
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I wish, I dont think anyone really covers it.

shy portal
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#newyoutubeideas

vast dune
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Does the Civil War era ballad referenced in Death Letter's Legendary Skin description actually exist?
I tried to google it but could not find anything thonkhunt .

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'Death is not a man, death is a bird' thonkhunt

earnest jungle
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I think the song is “Bullet’s Lullaby”

vast dune
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The lyrics seem to have nothing in common with the writings on the gun

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There's also Death Letter Blues but it's also not related lyrically

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and it's not a civil war ballad

tardy spear
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Considering the writer was said to have become a Hunter, I'mma say they made it up.

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I say, thirteen hours after the question was asked.

modern glen
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Reading a bit of lore, I've wondered, what are the other groups of Hunters that compete with the AHA ?

vast dune
# tardy spear Considering the writer was said to have become a Hunter, I'mma say they made it ...

Death Letter blues by Son House is creepy af anyways tho, good find thanks to that skin ;D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdgrQoZHnNY

YouTube
GtrWorkShp
Son House "Death Letter Blues"

Delta blues great Eddie "Son" House performs his classic "Death Letter Blues." From the Vestapol DVD "Legends of Country Blues Guitar, Vol. One." More info at https://stefan-grossmans-guitar-workshop.webflow.io/stefan-grossmans-guitar-workshop-online-store#!/Legends-of-Country-Blues-Guitar-Guitar-Volume-1/p/131764846

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sly pivot
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What is "The Sculptor"?

amber harbor
sly pivot
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I see. So did it sculpt the bosses, too? Or just the smaller grunts and hives and stuff scattered around the map?

edgy carbon
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You can find for example how the Hive was created if you read her entries

severe mulch
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Can anyone share pictures of the complete mastery of Scrabpeak ?

rotund ferry
severe mulch
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It's incomplete. @rotund ferry

rotund ferry
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It's not complete yet unfortuantely

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ye

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Just realized myself, my bad

severe mulch
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I'm aware of that. And so I am asking if anyone in here has the pictures of Scrabpeak.

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Whoever has the in game pictures of Scrapbeak, I'd appreciate it if you'd send them to me via DM. Thank you guys and keep up the good work.

signal heart
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Heya good morning!
Was just having a chat on reddit about Hunt story and music genre labels...was curious was you all think about that. What genre do you think of them as? Genre questions tend to be a bit fiddly, so I was curious to hear more thoughts on it.

(and the reddit convo is here, if you are interested https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/nfcxg8/what_is_the_musicart_style_called/)

reddit
r/HuntShowdown - What is the music/art style called?

5 votes and 10 comments so far on Reddit

junior pecan
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If i had to invent a term it would be sub-lovecraftian. Otherwise, weird west with a somber tone

junior pecan
molten forge
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Can the architectural choices in the building and/or surrounding indicate a possible build date for the plantation house?

Considering that square pillars seem to be used in plantation houses as an architectural choice but aren't particularly common in comparison to round pillars.

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rotund ferry
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If you really want to go down the rabbit hole, maybe make a request on r/AskHistorians on Reddit.

modest heart
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I can't find anything particularly useful on this myself. It generally seems like plantation houses like this were built in the early 1800s

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Doesn't seem to be anything special about the shape of the columns though

ruby current
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I have scoured the internet and the notes

modest heart
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A lot of the properties seem to have been owned as plantations for quite a while before the big house was built.

ruby current
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squared columns in private architecture, if not linked to any particular religious or cultural features, are mostly to be associated with wanting to recreate exotic aesthetics

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so, given the "colonial" context, I would say that style screams of "early stage"

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possibly, one of the first plantation houses to be built

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so if the choice is intentionally based on that, whoever designed that wants you to know that is a really old building

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even for the setting of Hunt

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spooky and haunted by groonts.

molten forge
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Considering it mentions old money, that could very well be.

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And could very well be a hint to other things

ruby current
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well "do they deserve mourning"... screams of slavery

rotund ferry
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lawson delta has the scars of the civil war still all over the map, so it certainly fits the theme

modest heart
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Partial source of the funding for the AHA? It's not clear if the owners survived or not

ruby current
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some nasty things happened in there I tell ya. can't wait to read about it in entries

molten forge
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I wonder if we get more lore through journals

earnest jungle
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We knew two things about this map: It has a quarry and a wealthy slave owning family lived there.

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From that I feel confident that the family was involved in industrial slavery

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In the American South Industrial Slavery was rare but it did happen.

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And as the South Industrialized after the Civil War it only increased.

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Though the 13th Amendment prohibited slavery, it allowed slavery to be used as a punishment for a crime.

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A loop hole that was employed across the south to keep people enslaved.

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Southern Courts would railroad Black People into prison where the wardens would lease the prisoners out to plantations, mines, farms, railroads, and factories.

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John Henry himself was such a convict laborer.

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The historical John Henry At the age of 19 he was sentenced to 10 years in prison for drum roll shop-lifting. Where he was then leased out with other prisoners building tunnels in West Virginia.

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Though the real John Henry never raced a steam drill there is a grain of truth to that legend. Steam drills at the time were dangerous and inefficient when compared to human workers.

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As is the truth that such a race would have been fatal. Steam drills kicked up fine particulates that damaged the lungs. Which is most likely what killed the real John Henry.

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This also frequently caused the drills to break down so they were almost always inevitably replaced with a manual labor work crew.

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But I digress

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It’s also possible that the Plantation may have used Peonage or simply ignored the ban of slavery entirely.

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While both Slavery and Peonage were illegal in the United States after 1865, some people chose to just ignore the law outright especially after reconstruction ended.

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Lure in miners and quarry workers with the prospect of work, and then entrap them using debt by forcing them to buy all of their gear and supplies from the company store. Then keeping the miners in perpetual debt by “miscalculating” how much money they owe the company.

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After all most poor unskilled laborers were either illiterate or semiliterate and would be unable to challenge the bosses “miscalculations.”

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And if the area is fairly isolated and the only law around is in bed with the company you can get away with even more egregious abuses.

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How’s the old song go:
You load 16 tons and what do you get
Another day older and deeper in debt
St Peter don’t you call me cause I can’t go
I owe my soul to the company store

dusky thunder
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so they are adding a completely new map?? Like a third one?

lyric arrow
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Yeah, if all goes well it will be there in 4-5 weeks tops

dusky thunder
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damn

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thats sick

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IMO the maps never seem repetitive anyway though

exotic juniper
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question: why spider

calm fractal
earnest jungle
# exotic juniper question: why spider

The Sculptor has a but motif and the Spider’s purpose is speculated to be eliminating those creations of the sculptor that are no longer useful, have been corrupted, or just been lost control of.

exotic juniper
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huh

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neat

tiny sleet
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Here's a few questions and I do apologise if it's answered some where in this feed or I have missed it in the Lore documents.

Does anyone know whats going on with the surrounding areas? South Louisiana has three major cities (if you include Lafayette which is on the banks of the Atchafalaya, which is Bayou heaven lol), two of which include the states capital Baton Rouge and New Orleans arguably it's most famous city, not to mention Morgan city and Houma, all of which are further south.

What's going on with these places? Is life some-what normal? Are they abandoned? I imagine a "plague" of this kind would be unavoidable to the local populous disrupting their way of life in all kinds of unimaginable ways.

In an AMA it was said that there was a possible government cover up and referenced the San Francisco Bubonic plague out break of 1900 - 1904 in which the governor covered up the outbreak to protect business and the reputation of the state (obviously I'm over-simplifying this event), however that was a small outbreak resulting in 121 cases in which 119 died (although i'm sure the numbers are botched) but it had major implications resulting in Chinese boycotts and among other notable events within the state.

I don't believe I would be wrong to argue this event seems much much harder to ignore.

Is Louisiana (especially the south) abandoned; maybe pockets of isolated communities?

Orrrr... Should I just be grateful that this is a really awesome game that the devs have taken the time to sprinkle in bits of lore to make it unique and those kinda question don't really matter too much?

minor peak
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There's no government cover-up afaik

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I'm not sure but the AHA made sure to cover-up the incident and isolate the area

tiny sleet
# minor peak There's no government cover-up afaik

Q: Is the association secret or somewhat widely known? Wouldn't it be easier to deal with the
incidents via mobilising the whole U.S military instead of making mercenary groups?

A: There's a widely known hunter's association, but that's a front. Who says the powers at be
want the situation resolved asap - or even believe there is a crisis? Look at the government
response to the Bubonic Plague in San Francisco around the same time.

Well you've just said someone covered it up, maybe the AHA and I feel this answer given by a dev might imply that it could go higher when saying 'The powers at be'. Which then bring me too my question, Isolate what area? how big and how does this affect the surrounding cities?

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If it affects the surrounding area at all that is.

minor peak
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From what I wrote in my guide's lore (The source was from this channel but I dont remember when since its dated pre 2019)
"Since the 1600s, Hunters have been sent into areas to hunt down bounties in the form of giant monsters. They operate under a very loosely structured organization called the AHA (American Hunters Association) which calls on Hunters in times of crisis. The AHA does not have any guidelines or much structure, and just serves to give rewards for successfully handing in bounties. Other than that, they do not have much power over what the Hunters do. This led many Hunters to form pairs and go after the bounties together. There are multiple factions / organizations of Hunters that are loyal to different leaders such as the Bone Doctor and his voudou influence, or the Reverend and his Christian influence. As it stands now though, the AHA is in shambles."

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so idk, hawthorne is best to answer this :P

tiny sleet
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Its cool man, yeah, I'm already aware of the state of the AHA and things like that from reading up on the lore but I'm more interested in how the world operates around it and wasn't sure if i missed something maybe, but I appreciate you taking the time to answer dude, There might be no definitive answer. It just has me very interested you know?

minor peak
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No, I understand, dw ^^

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I believe AHA is good at covering up and the world doesnt know whats happening

tiny sleet
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Riiiiight, so potentially... This could be a small isolated area or areas within rural Louisiana and it doesn't affect anyone outside on a large scale. That's interesting.

minor peak
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Possibly, ye. And, it's not the first time they isolate an incident considering "Since the 1600s, Hunters have been sent into areas to hunt down bounties in the form of giant monsters" statement

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If nobody knew about these incidents since 1600, I'm sure nobody knows about them so far yet but how they isolate them from public eye (to avoid unwanted attention from authorities, etc) is a mystery

amber harbor
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the rest of the world is doing part of the work themselves as killergreece said. There was an old newspaper article which said that this supernatural plague was something linked to poverty, something 'us civilised men' couldn't get

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there was a scene in Russels letters iirc where they kept watch on the events border and killed the wandering grunts and the like but they kept coming in bigger numbers

tiny sleet
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Okay, so with this info we begin to rule out a possible post apocalyptic southern Louisiana, leaning more towards the idea of a independent agency/association that that may or may not operate with government knowledge that works to mysteriously isolate small industrial and residential areas without the attention from local authorities or possibly the government in complete secret for the last nearly 300 years?

Is this what we are saying?

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cause I'm on board, but i has me gripped

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it*

amber harbor
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the "apocalypse" is localised, rest of the world is ok. I think of hunters as kind of witchers but dominated by greed

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this event is larger, because i think it encompasses entire villages.

tiny sleet
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yeah i figured it was a Witcher type narrative.

But this bring me back to my original question lol...
Isolate what area? how big and how does this affect the surrounding cities?
If it affects the surrounding area at all that is.

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questionsssss* sorry

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These question may not be answered yet which is totally cool. Its online multiplayer game not a TV show or Book. I just find the entire thing beautiful unique it its own way and it leaves me ( and I imagine, many of us) wanting to know more.

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beautifully*

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More specifically in my case... How the world operates (both in marco and micro regards) around this agency/association and the "events" it covers up.

amber harbor
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all i can do is speculate since i dont know enough to give you a real answer

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better let sbdy else answer this

tiny sleet
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To be completely fair to you bro, I think you and Good Moon have given the best answer the current info will allow for without speculation as you said, I think some of the unique aspects comes from its mystery. So I do believe I may have the answer I was looking for which sadly for now I think is 'No answer, Only speculation', if that makes sense? So thanks for answering, dude.

amber harbor
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Thank YOU for asking questions! I love seeing new ppl get hyped for the world of hunt, and I'm glad I can help.

The event zone is really malleable since they need the freedom to add new maps. Since the third one seems exotic, it might be that tears in the veil between worlds act as epicenters for separate zones, all part of the same event.
The devs said they want to focus on Louisiana, so no desert/tundra map

earnest jungle
# tiny sleet Here's a few questions and I do apologise if it's answered some where in this fe...

  1. As far as the surrounding areas know Southern Louisiana has been swept by a particularly nasty influenza epidemic, though even the Government of Louisiana appears hesitant to admit that.

  2. The Affected areas called “Dead Zones” or the “Hunting Grounds” are pretty much abandoned. Either you go out while the getting was good or you stayed. If you stayed one of three things happened: you died, you became a grunt, or you joined the hunt. Some locals have gained a natural resistance and even immunity to the sculptor’s influence due to living within the afflicted areas their entire lives. Which adds evidence for my theory that the dead zones were areas where the boundary between our world and the Sculptor’s world was already thin.

So as far as anyone in Louisiana knows what’s going on in the Bayou is just a particularly nasty flue outbreak and all of the rumors about monsters are just typical tall tales. Though it seems people are becoming suspicious that something is happening what with all of the missing persons and gunshots.

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The way I conceptualize this outbreak is, think of a water table that’s slowly getting bigger. As the water level rises its going to flood the lowest elevation areas first. The areas where it’s easiest to break through. But as it rises higher and higher it’s going to flood more and more areas. So far we’re at the point where the water is creating ponds and pools but give it time and it will create an ocean.

tiny sleet
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Hey Rexli, thanks for replying. I'm afraid I'm having trouble following your theory as it create far more questions for me than it answers.

As stated in my first post, Southern Louisiana is a massive area and holds its two major cities both Baton Rouge and New Orleans not to mention every town/parish, city and village that lies further south. Potentially this 'particularly nasty influenza epidemic' as you put it, may have killed or displaced half a million people which would have been massive deal at the time, especially in the surrounding states as people would migrate to get away. In only 24 years the Spanish flu would be discovered in Kansas and sweep across the world killing 50,000,000 people and from our own recent experience these virus's are hard to contain in major cities that operate trade. This isn't to mention that thousands of these displaced people which now have moved into different states to get away from the virus, would have seen their loved ones turn to zombies and I feel this wouldn't be disregarded by local media, also the Louisiana government resides in Baton Rouge so it would have also been evacuated making the pandemic hard to deny.

The other thing is that a Bayou isn't one place, Louisiana is full of bayou's from as far north as Arkansas all the way south to the Gulf of Mexico and obviously west to east as well. So when people are hearing gunshots and going missing in the Bayou, there are lots of bayou's in southern Louisiana again making me come back to many of my original questions.

I could keep going but I don't want to look like I'm picking plot holes because i'm not, I love what the dev's are doing with hunts narrative.

I like the way you conceptualise the outbreak. If this information has come from something you've read and I've missed it, please post the links in the feed, as it seems very different to what both Good Moon and Kebab Ronin were saying about the world and how it operates.

earnest jungle
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When we’re talking about Southern Louisiana we mean the southern most stretch of land around the coast.

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The Outbreak has yet to spread far enough North to affect either New Orleans or Baton Rouge.

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I think you are severely over estimating just how much land is actually being effected by the outbreak.

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Though the Outbreak is dangerous it is not dangerous because of the area of land in which it is spreading but in its longevity.

tiny sleet
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No worries man thanks for reply, could you put the links up where you read this, or refer to the lore documents I might have missed.

earnest jungle
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Specifically the Outbreak appears to be affecting the Land South of New Orleans and possible parts of upstate New York.

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It’s small pockets now but the longer those pockets are left to fester the worse it will get.

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The Outbreak is large enough that people in the Major cities of Southern Louisiana have heard of it, but small enough that the Louisiana Government is trying to suppress news of it as it has yet to reach major population centers.

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These Lore Documents come from the Old Lore and are dubious cannon.

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For example the Louisiana Event Scrapbook Contains the first mentions of Lynch and the Sculptor which are cannon.

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However the lore has since gone in a different direction. With a lot less focus on real historical figures.

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And much of it contains lore hooks that have since been abandoned.

hallow kraken
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Ok, I have a question. Is the sculptor an actual physical “person” or is it just an entity? Is there any possible way for hunters to kill it?

earnest jungle
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We have no idea

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It appears to be intangible

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But again old lore

tiny sleet
earnest jungle
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How much the Government knows isn’t clear

tiny sleet
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Okay, cheers man thank you!

earnest jungle
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There’s evidence that seems to indicate they are covering up the outbreak and evidence to suggest they have no idea what’s happening.

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For example if the Government is coordinating with the AHA why is one of their guide’s being prosecuted for the missing person’s cases.

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And why did Marshall Brewer have to resign from her office to join the Hunt?

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The best Explanation I think is that the Government isn’t covering up a Demonic Outbreak. They’re covering up what they think is some kind of Plague Outbreak of either Yellow Fever or Influenza.

waxen stone
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Do we have any lore or information about this new guy? The committed

spring sinew
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Is there any lore reason why teammates are outlined in blue and the dots are physical objects in the world for our sights only?

rustic hearth
exotic juniper
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so what exactly happened to the (obviously) human dude inside scrapbeak? when you kill him you see just a human guy with a prosthetic leg, so why is he carrying around a billion pounds of bullshit and trying to kill people?

rustic hearth
north sphinx
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I keep seeing mentions of the sculptor and every time i get a scrap of info on them its vague as hell, what is a sculptor? Just a vague being who influences the creation of monsters like a plague?

rustic hearth
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@north sphinx yeah pretty much. The little we know about him is pretty much all small scraps or information from old outdated/retconned lore.

harsh gale
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lore behind spinning cylinder after reloading?

ruby current
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hunters are cool dudes who do cool stuff.

icy brook
flat elk
junior pecan
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Just another instance of devs making a nonsense decision

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From both a balancing and causal standpoint

icy brook
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Not to be pedantic, but they did address it in a stream as a way to justify lining up a loaded cylinder

junior pecan
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The previous system already made causal sense. This new system implies they spin it the exact distance necessary every time

icy brook
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Yes

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I personally don’t mind it

sweet peak
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Do you think think tier 1's wear bright colors because they're new and don't know what to do exactly, and the tier 3's are mostly wearing blacks, browns, and greens, since they've been at it for so long they know what to wear to blend in with the environment?

scarlet lily
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yea

pliant agate
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What is the rednecks lore

ashen barn
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"YEW DAMN ZAMBIE BASTERDS GIT OFF MAH LAND YIP YIP YEEEEEEEEE" -redneck, probably

pliant agate
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Sounds about right

rugged fjord
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What is my lore?

fiery sun
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do you recommend unlocking the book entries yourself or just reading them online?

rotund ferry
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It's up to you tbh. I read most of them online since I keep prestiging and won't have all of them unlocked for a looong time.

earnest jungle
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The Red Necks Lore is actually very significant. Combined with my the Lore from the Immolator, and Timothy Stone’s Lore it indicates that the land itself is connected to the Louisiana Outbreak.

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The Red Neck, Nora neé Evans, and William Salter, all posses a limited natural resistance to the sculptor’s influence.

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In the Case of the Red Neck and Salter that resistance appears to be a result of living in the Bayou where the outbreaks occurred for much of their lives.

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The Immolator Lore furthermore confirms that the reason for the Transformation of Reverend Jeremiah was that he was tortured in a highly volatile area charged with the Sculptor’s energies.

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What this tells us is that there exists natural rifts between our world and the sculptor’s. Areas where their presence, influence, and power can be felt. Enough to be felt and possibly build up a natural resistance to over years of exposure.

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Which also lends support for my “wellspring” theory. Like a spring erupting from an aquifer, the water will breakthrough the thinest easiest ground to penetrate first. This coupled with the early negligence of Huff is why the Outbreak spread so quickly but has yet to overrun the whole of Southern Louisiana. The Deadzones are soft ground surrounded by bed rock, and it’s going to take time to erode that bedrock.

lilac dirge
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where can i read up on the lore?

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@lilac dirge Look in the pinned comments in this channel

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There you should find the basics

lilac dirge
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okay

oak nymph
earnest jungle
oak nymph
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Gotcha, I couldn't remember anything about him past the Brother's keeper lore

signal heart
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t-minus one hour
you're going to want to see this one
👀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S19T_j1CFSQ

YouTube
Hunt: Showdown
Hunt: Showdown I Dark Sight Trailer

Won’t be long now, not long at all. Time’s caught up. You wouldn’t believe what I had to do to get here. Or maybe you would.

I met others on the road, and they sure understood.
All heading to the same place, to meet a man named Finch.

Word of advice: if you follow, mind what you do at that fork in the road. Mistake like that you can only ma...

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Won’t be long now, not long at all. Time’s caught up. You wouldn’t believe what I had to do to get here. Or maybe you would.

I met others on the road, and they sure understood.
All heading to the same place, to meet a man named Finch.

Word of advice: if you follow, mind what you do at that fork in the road. Mistake like that you can only make once.

tall lava
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Revenant when he got shot

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eternal crystal
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There is letters scattered in the trailer

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It shows up in certain scenes

tall lava
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Yeah started doing them

wise sluice
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New map is New Orleans?

amber onyx
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Did we see the crossroads in that trailer?

tall lava
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Half way through the trailer, so far it spells out READING

exotic hill
frank iris
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I screenshotted some of the parts

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can send it here

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lemme know if that's what you meant

eternal crystal
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For sure

frank iris
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watching in 0.25

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haha

eternal crystal
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If we could possibly mark them with time stamp, as it could be linked with numbers as well, not always spelled straight forward

exotic hill
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we think about "heading" instead of reading

frank iris
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hmm

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I'll try to get them all

tall lava
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I went though it and all I got was READING NOHTHODALLE

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Probably missed some

devout cedar
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Heading North? Kappa

hybrid trench
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im currently collecting all screenshots of the symbols themselves in order with timestamps

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will post in a bit

lyric wigeon
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thx mate

hybrid trench
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np

frank iris
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ok

exotic hill
tall lava
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Oh yeah R and H are super close in voynich

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So it's heading instead yeah

earnest jungle
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Heading North

rotund ferry
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Heading North O'Dalle?

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Last bit possibly being a name?

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1:H
2:E
3:A
4:D
5:I
6:N
7:G
8:N
9:O
10:R
11.1: H
11:T
12:O
13:E
14:S
15:A
16:L
17:L
18:E

eternal crystal
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Amazing work guys

tall lava
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Heading north to desalle?

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Since I got D in there as well

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And we both probably missed T in north

hybrid trench
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i have all the pics now

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in order

exotic hill
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H E A D I N G N O R T H T O D E S A L L E

lunar anvil
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yall fast

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lol

hybrid trench
rotund ferry
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There is a town/city called Des Allemands close to New Orleans, bot deleted my wikipedia link lol

exotic hill
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So our Guess is "heading north to desalle"

rotund ferry
hybrid trench
rotund ferry
glossy falcon
# rotund ferry There is a town/city called Des Allemands close to New Orleans, bot deleted my w...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Des_Allemands,_Louisiana

Des Allemands, Louisiana

Des Allemands is an unincorporated community and census-designated place (CDP) in Lafourche and St. Charles parishes in the southeastern part of the U.S. state of Louisiana. The population was 2,505 at the 2010 census. The town, known as the "Catfish Capital of the Universe", is along the Bayou des Allemands, which is the boundary of Lafourche a...

hybrid trench
devout cedar
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Des Allemands, Louisiana
"The Germans"

What rachtaPhantomLUL

hybrid trench
uncut brook
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I though I'm the only one trying to find every symbol.

sage basin
hybrid trench
lyric wigeon
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maybe TODESALLE is german vor DEATH HALL.

rotund ferry
hybrid trench
earnest jungle
hybrid trench
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sorry for the spam but there are all of the pics w/ timestamps that i gathered, feel free to @me if yall find some that i missed

hybrid trench
molten forge