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#lore-discussion
forest condor
urban burrow
Thanks hearn
urban burrow
I would love a spitter of some form would be fun to pllay with
fleet plover
Bye
tired mural
so many
forest condor
Not here...not here
undone sky
Proxy I don't think a spitter would crush her bones
urban burrow
yeah i know but wishful thinking....I think its a gator which i like
forest condor
Digestive acids and mucus, she was in something's stomach
noble vine
@urban burrow atually german jokes often arent as brutal as in other countries. At least as i know
undone sky
But at the same time I don't think she would have survived being chuwed by a gator
forest condor
Maybe the butcher is a she and it's the story of reaching her from being the butcher
noble vine
maybe she was affected a bit and could survive because of that?
forest condor
Before someone else take up the mantel
tired mural
I told a friend I was half German, and he went on for 40 minutes with German jokes he had up his sleeve
urban burrow
@noble vine Yeah you are pretty right, they are just more stereotypical...I live in frankfurt for 6 years, many people i met there were very nice
tired mural
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
urban burrow
(The jokes are more stereotypical)
noble vine
we have to be. We had a certain..... past...
forest condor
HANS, GET THE FLAMMENWERFER
undone sky
π
noble vine
the one who werfs flammen?
forest condor
Ja
noble vine
tired mural
@noble vine excuse me, what is this
noble vine
i think we went a little to off topic...
forest condor
Lol
tired mural
why does it say ark suvival
undone sky
Do you know how to say road bump in German?
forest condor
No
noble vine
does it?
tired mural
oh no
forest condor
Stop it
undone sky
Belgium
noble vine
XDDDD
tired mural
π―
noble vine
to ze spinne and ze metger?
tired mural
well, I mean he doesn't
undone sky
Let's come up with Hunt jokes
tired mural
because that is definitely not felix
noble vine
can we move to off topic?
forest condor
Ja
undone sky
Yeah
grand plaza
Das lore ist sehr gut
tired mural
pretty sure she was monched
noble vine
das ist mein junge fΓΌr gods sake
random lava
tired mural
pretty sure it was also that one hunter's daughter
congrats @random lava you missed the whole thing
random lava
and im better for it
grand plaza
ich sprechen nicht deutsch so gut, so excuse mich
forest condor
We danced around intense socio political issues
tired mural
one of the devs just left us hanging with his hunt: showdown vore lore snippet he was writing
sinful trout
@random lava lol
Alrighty. I just want to put this out there for all of our lore hunters!!! #lore-discussion if you have any questions at all even though the ama is over. Dont be afraid to ask @slim hatch @minor peak and myself questions that relate to the lore. Weve all put a lot of time and effort into figuring it out and we have a general understanding. So if you have any questions (obviously we cant answer some bc we dont know) feel free! Dont let the itch you have for lore go unscratched!
random lava
and*
random lava
i've found multiple things actually 
sinful trout
Hahaha
noble vine
whoops
sinful trout
Happy? @random lava
noble vine
es tut mir leid...
noble vine
XD
noble vine
i will doπ sorry for meming
long grotto
No we need a deep single player to dive into all this properly π
noble vine
my sillyness actually gave me an idea: do the entities act global, or are there others in different regions of the world?
sinful trout
Put it this way
Entities come
Fuck up shit
And likely are banished by orginizations
noble vine
rappers in a nutshell
sinful trout
There have been pockets of hunt activity all over the world
noble vine
with the same entities?
noble vine
sinful trout
There are multiple entities at play in Louisiana event alone
Multiple hunting orginizations as well
noble vine
so its possible that every entitie acts global or that some of them are only in a certain place
sinful trout
I highly doubt theyre global
If they were what would stop them from affecting the entire world
noble vine
maybe they need more power. Doesnt mean that they dont act global. Just that they dont have a super high influence
sinful trout
I think it would be more believable if when they showed up only had the power to affevt a certain area.
noble vine
that would suggest that they have a kind of a physicality
sinful trout
How so?
sinful trout
Still wrong chat @undone wave
@undone wave ama is over
@noble vine im pumped for all the info coming on salter
He seems to have infiltrated the asylum and yoinked some docs
Maybe!
sinful trout
Hurrah for nix. He is our saviour. May he dash on the wings of angels πΆπΆπΆ 3 HUZZAHS for nixateeeeeeek our man surely is the beeeeeeest πΆπΆπΆπ΅
random lava
let's keep it ontopic
noble vine
β€
sinful trout
Q: What happens to the hunters when they die? Will they be "damned"? and what does "damned" in this context mean?
Q: Are the damned souls in quickplay hunters that already died then? And the Wellspring is a chance for them to resurrect?
A: Yes! Hunters get a chance at salvation - but Damned is sort of evocative
So can we assume that these hunters that are revived are from the previous hunt yet?
I think this q explains enough
noble vine
it sure does! It would be interesting tho if every hunter gets this chance and why
forest condor
@sinful trout glad you forgot me π₯
noble vine
??
noble vine
tell us!
forest condor
A notbot's memory is good
chilly zealot
did i miss the thing?
frigid copper
I guess so
raven sage
here is a solid piece of lore here: "zombies do the big slaps and it hurts"
rapid shore
Hey all. I'm currently looking forward to this on Xbox and was hoping to dive into the lore before the game is out. Is there a PDF document (or any document for that matter) that's been put together that has ALL the lore info we know (thus far)? I was hoping to stay away from the monster manual since I wanted to experience that myself but not sure if I can avoid it now. Just really want to know the general concept of everything, if that's possible. I've looked into the pinned messages from today's AMA and I really enjoyed it!
restive drift
Since monsters "live" in relative peace among them, and the possibility that bosses are actually hiding from us on their lairs... Maybe the real villains are the hunters? Or maybe we all have our minds distorted and in the reality attacking inocent people...
???
sinful trout
@rapid shore in hardcore theres a ton of lore docs that are pinned. Check out the evo lore presentation, arpys loose lore doc and the "beastiary" not the "monstorvum" if you cant find any of these let me know
@restive drift like the episode of black mirror? "Roaches" is that what you mean? Interesting concept but think of it this way.
Demons from another dimension come to our realm because they hunger for something we have (presumed to be souls) the demon (which we call the sculptor) then males minions to do the "farming" from there the aha sends hunters out. Suddenly the boss contract has a bunch of hunters out to kill it... What would you do in that situation? Me? Id hide as well
restive drift
Got interested to knowing more about this... Maybe monters are actually no so evil, maybe are victims...
sinful trout
Precisely. The boss is targeted by hunters because its been terrorizing and murdering. It then hides sonit is not killed. No different than how a murderer hides from local law enforcement. The murderer is not the victim
restive drift
Of course a murderer is not the victim... I just thinking about the plot twist... π
And actually we didnt saw them killing anyone... π€
restive drift
Maybe another thing is the responsible?
sinful trout
The literal piles of bodies with meathook marks on them
restive drift
Yeah...
Hunters have distorted minds? We are becoming monsters too after so many dark sight exposure?
Just, kidding, I think u have reason
sinful trout
You do havea point dontget me wrong
Like i said
Its a neat concept
Have you seen black mirrors "roaches" episode?
Check it out. It touches on a lot of things youve talked about.
@restive drift but yeah, WELCOME TO LORE!!! come check it all out! Glad to have ya. Pinned messages everywhere!
#lore-discussion IF YOU MISSED OUT ON QNA BE SURE TO CHECK OUT THE PINNED MESSAGES WHERE A LOT (and i mean a LOT( OF QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED. HELPS TO SAVE YA TIME
rapid shore
Thank you @sinful trout
restive drift
THANKS @sinful trout I was just wondering, maybe Butcher, for example, just defended himself, and somehow thrive up "enemy" waves against him ... Just to retreats to actual "lair"... He just hide theres, with no interest in get out to hunt the Hunters... Maybe now he just wants that leave him alone...
Anf thanks for the tip, I will watch this episode you mentioned
sinful trout
Is it possible that the sculptor is just scared and retaliated against the people who saw the monstrosity that they saw, just for the butcher to be forced to defend himself and hide away? Yeah its totally possible. However its quite unlikely due to the fact that the entire area of stillwater was decimated. All towns void of life, all towns with piles of bodies
No problem man! @restive drift anything to scratch a fellow lore hunters itch!
restive drift
The fact that Bosses dont leaving their Lairs being Lore related, not just a gameplay balancing limitation is what itches me...
noble vine
so there must be a reason why the sculptor makes bosses... If they dont mean to kill but defend themselves.
Also, a reason of the entities coming is "hunger". But why do the afflicted people end as monsters?
Some questions for the next ama
cunning juniper
Is there any plan to have the lore book rewritten by an English speaker? Currently, pasting passages (like the one about the Assassin) into readability checkers show that the writing is a 12th grade level. Sentences like this βBefore its arrival, the entity's major aspects were certainly formidable combatants, though designed for other purposes.β From the Assassin passage make absolutely no sense.
Seems like a rough draft, Iβm just curios if it is.
forest condor
The book is written from the point of view of a historian in the late 20th century, I don't think it's supposed to be a published version, hence the mistakes. As well as that a good deal of the exerpt are from newspaper clippings found around the map
amber harbor
the response to the hive question was interesting
makes me assume the interviewed person was affected in some way by the hive mind
earnest jungle
I think the bounties hide because the hunters can send them to hell. And I doubt hell is a pleasant place even for monsters. The bounties donβt appear to be mindless beasts. Perhaps even they fear the fires of hell.
sinful trout
@restive drift they said this on the topic of bosses and why they hide
"When hunters are away the bosses come out to play"
The terrorize the towns when hunters arent around
@random lava thanks! π
twilit torrent
can bosses sense if hunters are in the area?
weary cypress
So how is it possible with 1 vs 2 and both are dead and one resurrects and kills me?
I heard the 1st die by spider so I rushed the other and shot and killed him. his buddy gets back up and kills me!
got to love the cheaters
not
weary cypress
make solo mode a thing. tired of going against duo's. yes people have had this conversation before just please do it devs.
tri or quads would be cool too
zealous lion
they should rather make it that the what ever the value of the bounty is split between what ever the size of the party.
that way there is an insentive for going at it alone . sobigger squads easier to win but less bounty alone and all the mula is yours.
after all I never saw bounty hunters work in squads.
paper sparrow
Q: Where do retired hunters go? If the whole world is overrun with evil, where do they βretireβ for a peaceful last years of their life.
anyone who could maybe dig some lore up for me?
paper sparrow
the lore clearly explains that it started in texas and that the whole world is overrun with this evil
literally, where were you when devs had the lore qna
main quail
WHat did the devs say
About world being overrun
That there are incidents or the plague affects the whole world
main quail
Entity is boss?
random lava
There is also something about the AHA keeping these incidents quiet. Would be impossible if the world was overrun
paper sparrow
Yeah
I was mistaken
When i went up the chat, thought my answer was from a dev
But it was some random
random lava
Maybe next time don't be so passive aggressive in your response π
paper sparrow
I wasnt aggressive
I just speak like that all the time
And type like that lmao
Wasnt trying to sound rude
sinful trout
ive been thinking about this for a while
and what if we have it backwards kind of
everytime we poke and prod about weather its a disease or a curse we get a very undefinitive answer
what if they werent just messing with us
what if it is a curse, that spreads like a disease
@random lava hey baaaaaabe, wanna remove all the qna pins now?
sinful trout
awwwwwwwww shit
@late tinsel Q: Are there any lore aspects to the sight boost mentioned or is it purely gameplay mechanic?
If yes whatβs the story behind it?
Answer: There is a story behind the dark sight. (known among hunters also as The Sight. Sinan used to call it Spirit Eye) We will reveal how this works very soon.
Found it
late tinsel
random lava
@sinful trout I can't atm I'll do when I have some time. Or maybe @proper cradle could
proper cradle
languid bough
@sinful trout : "ive been thinking about this for a while
and what if we have it backwards kind of
everytime we poke and prod about weather its a disease or a curse we get a very undefinitive answer
what if they werent just messing with us
what if it is a curse, that spreads like a disease"
If I remember dev said it's something with a mix of the two, or at least a some component of each, so it make sense. A magical force (so a curse if it's a bad one) with a diseas way of spreading. Contact? Weather? Blood? We are close to something
proper cradle
@sinful trout @random lava done
random lava
π
languid bough
Since they also said the DS is a kinda magical, science thing, we could say it work the same way. It use a "magical" force, something that don't come from our world but follow some logic. A sort of science of the other world
sinful trout
@proper cradle thanks daddy
proper cradle
nimble cairn
rotund ferry
sinful trout
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit?usp=sharing This is a doc to remove clutter and allow for more pins, this is a doc we will send people who are looking to learn more about the lore.
@proper cradle mind pinning this? you can also remove all pins in this chat except for the one telling ppeople theycan ask questions
please?
sinful trout
hahaha
and yeah you can remove all pins except for this one too please
Alrighty. I just want to put this out there for all of our lore hunters!!! #lore-discussion if you have any questions at all even though the ama is over. Dont be afraid to ask @slim hatch @minor peak and myself questions that relate to the lore. Weve all put a lot of time and effort into figuring it out and we have a general understanding. So if you have any questions (obviously we cant answer some bc we dont know) feel free! Dont let the itch you have for lore go unscratched!
noble vine
i think you forgot arpy again
sinful trout
nope!
thats the original pin above. i posted it again so that when we wipe all of the pins we can just have those 2 up
sinful trout
alrighty people test servers up
we need to prioritize
@slim hatch once you get in let me know if your grunt progress is still up
limpid crane
I realize this is a dumb question but I can't find viable information online and I'm relatively new here. What is the Sculptor? I keep seeing it referenced in the archived AMA
sinful trout
so
the sculptor is merely just a name we made up for one of the entities that started the louisianna event
entity being a demon from another realm
limpid crane
It seems like people describe it as being the thing that makes a lot of the zombies and monsters?
(I also see people referencing "aspects" with regards to it so I guess there are some rules to what it can make?)
limpid crane
Thanks. As someone getting in some of the lore is hard to pin down
limpid crane
Thanks, good to know
sinful trout
that first pinned doc holds the most info
sinful trout
welp someone made a suggestion and i cant find it
slim hatch
@sinful trout Is test still up? Sorry I've been out all day haven't had time to look into test?
sinful trout
It is yes
slim hatch
Okay I'll check but i won't be playing tonight
@sinful trout Checked it's locked again
sinful trout
Damn. We need the grunt entries
Spider is also available
Grunt for nico and winkler
Spider for reed
languid bough
And water devils to really know what this thing isΒΈ
slim hatch
Water Devils are real pain in the ass to unlock due to being DMG sponge.
languid bough
Yeah I know. I'll try to do the entry of them when the patch go live
slim hatch
I think it's easier to wait until it's live.
sinful trout
2 shots from caldwell rival fuck em up
sinful trout
@languid bough water devils were confirmed as 150+ bloodworms in a hive mind
@signal heart @rotund ferry just making sure, has the above lore changed? Or is that still the case
However yeah, id love to see "the story of the many tentacled beast of the swamps"
oh shit the char doc
ill go update
sinful trout
also for anybody who wrote any of the previous docs. i hope i wasnt stepping on anybodys toes by making the big one. just got tired of jumping back and forth between docs trying to find something. also makes transcribing a millino times easier for me
slim hatch
Separation was one of our main approaches so I think essentially everyone involved in those. Because separation of concerns is essentially a law of problem solving aka self-contained solutions based on topics or other common denominators
Combining QnAβs would be valid
But slamming it all together is sloppy
Ex: you have your bills, your medical papers and your legal papers, all of them documents but them all into one folder is bad approach as now you need to dig through unrelated papers to find that one legal paper between medical and bills
- those pins that got spammed up during QnAβs should be transcribed and deleted
Over all Iβm dissatisfied with the AMA absolute chaos mess and loads of over-head now. Old approach was better, compile doc send off get answers. Clean and simple
AMA had people asking shit that is known the moment you open any hunter lore piece
Gain of lore hunters? 1 maybe 2 not worth it if you ask me
And i mainly still see same names so net gain for us is π
paper sparrow
What does AHA dtand for
languid bough
American Hunter Association
slim hatch
EDIT: Now that i got to PC, if there is a general collection along side separated pieces that's fine.
Yeah the full collection of QnA's is good
Seriously!?
paper sparrow
I wonder how the hunters got their jobs, and how it can be such a loose job, organization because i mean hunter kill eachother, they all work for the same company but the AHA is still succesfully keeping it secret from the rest of the world.
And what happens when they do retire
languid bough
@slim hatch do people have write access and someone is trolling us?
slim hatch
Yeah i think so should be open access.
At least versions in #lore-discussion-hardcore are always write 100%
Regular Lore is yes and no depends.
sinful trout
@slim hatch my bad. As i said it was a rough draft and everything was pulp bulk formatted into the same format for qna and shoved into questions doc. And whileni like the idea of having spereate docs. Witha document outline it males it one hell of a lot easier to find shit and not have to a. Scroll through pins, b scroll through certain docs (while not even being sure its there) and c. It makes it easier to open the doc. Go "find in page" and get what youre looking for
As i said. Didnt mean to step on toes. But this is the best approach. The doc is still writer only for meanwhile as i said it is still heavily prototyped. And will be open access to all after this
For now, however. Suggesting and commdnting is open:)
slim hatch
Well Maq in one of our talks pointed out that with the recent release of Lore we should go for wiki.
In the past we did consider going wiki but at the time info was so sparse that it was not viable to do it, but given the recent release and book of weapons being on the way, i think we need to reconsider Wiki.
Because by now it is indeed quite a lot and as such wiki might be more convenient to go for but that means we need to go through everything we know so far
And start moving it over to wiki
languid bough
Wiki is a good idea, it shouldn't be too difficult to set up and it will be easier to search for something.
sinful trout
Of course if someone wants to do that theyre more than welcome. I will continue to work on the lore doc as making a prokect outline is essentially the same as a wiki, with sub sections and sub sub sections. Im just afraid that with a wiki there will be so many topics with an entire page that contain nothing.
@paper sparrow its been implied that retired hunters are killed
@slim hatch also... Net gain of lore readers is substantial. Not sure how active youve been last couple days. But ive gotten messages from 5 people looking to know more. Not to mention @paper sparrow @limpid crane @nimble cairn @restive drift
So thats 9...
For just me alone
slim hatch
I've been generally pretty busy
languid bough
I can help writing stuff if needed.
slim hatch
Well if you want to take the wiki would be awesome.
sinful trout
@slim hatch theres been a ton of new guys. Its been great
slim hatch
I can help with sorting out data but as I said being overloaded I'll mainly stick to for now unlocking the lore QnA's and Character list
sinful trout
Yeah. I just got wisdom teeth out. So i should be good to get another spider entry out
night sphinx
i read about duck with arms and legs. never seen it in game. is this a joke or I missed a big thing?))
night sphinx
ΠΎΠΊ))
slim hatch
@sinful trout It's not gone, there is still a window you can look into and see it
sinful trout
Well the current version is gone
Obviously you can go into pre ious versions
Let e rephrase. The one in the full lore doc is gone
Because thats the easiest thing for me to edit
paper sparrow
@sinful trout It has never been implied that they die, they do survive, that is why you retire them.
paper sparrow
Literally you are the first person to say they die.
sinful trout
It is to be noted that when we asked a lore master about A.H.A being a moral organization and weather or not they kill expired hunters, he had this to say:
βwell. What do YOU think. I think one thing is very clear so far, Hunt is not a romantic story. People do things because of their motivations. This includes monsters.β
At this point they were prompted with another question. If the A.H.A is willing to have hunters kill civilians who are cursed. What's to stop them from ending expired hunters with a bullet to the head? At which point they responded with:
βThat is a very good question, you ARE on the right trackβ
paper sparrow
βExpired huntersβ
sinful trout
We were reffering ti retired
sinful trout
Fasih?
paper sparrow
His name is white in the picture you sent
sinful trout
Fasih was the lead lore develloper
sinful trout
...
paper sparrow
Iβve never been told by anyone but you they die
sinful trout
I never said did,
I said it was implied.
You do realize that him being gone so that info being irrelevant would LITTERALLY mean us dumping everything we have on hunt lore currently right?
All old documents
All old qnas
All old pieces
Useless
paper sparrow
Even with that, it would be very stupid and no logic what so ever, with a hunter who retires he gets killed
You retire to not risk your life hunting anymore.
sinful trout
Yes but look at it from the orginizations point of view
"youve been hunting monsters for years. You hold so many secrets that could shatter the worlds image."
3 options.
Let them go spread the horrifying tales, WITH PROOF AT THIS POINT.
send them to the asylum
Kill them
Which requires the least amount of resources
@paper sparrow as he said. Hunt is not a romantic story. Its grim and full of dark corners that most people wouldnt want to know whats around them
Is it possible that hunters retire and live happily ever after?
Yes
Is it plausible?
With hunts grim state? No
languid bough
@slim hatch I'll see what I can do
plucky maple
Where can I find the recent Q&A?
slim hatch
@plucky maple Pins
plucky maple
Kinda new to Discord. Where donilon find them on mobile version?
languid bough
You should have ... On the top right of your screen. Tap on it and then you should have "pin messages"
slim hatch
@plucky maple Okay on phone sec i'll just take screenshots I've my phone near me
Click on #lore-discussion at the very top 2nd image menu will pop up
At the bottom there is Pinned Messages
Click on that one
And it will show you pins
forest condor
I believe so, I'm pretty sure that's in one of the docs under transcribes posters or something like that
sinful trout
Its possible
rotund ferry
Uh oh @signal heart , they're asking questions about Fasih
signal heart
@rotund ferry cue my editing music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W33kv-ZAxzE
signal heart
So noticed you all talking about how one of the lore writers you sometimes spoke with is no longer...with us.
But he still lives on in the gameβHearn and I have been here that whole time too, just not on the Discord as much. Don't worry about us changing everything all around on you. We tried to make sure to address the few things we've noticed being discussed here that have changed (during the AMA), and we will continue to do so. Remember, because weβre in Early Access, a lot of aspects of the game are still evolving - and that includes lore.
languid bough
Thanks for your answer
sinful trout
@rotund ferry @signal heart sorry! I tried to sideswipe it
nimble cairn
@sinful trout are there more hunters bio to read?
sinful trout
How do you mean?
nimble cairn
like baker davis
sinful trout
De servus diaboli is scog's manuscript. And we have bunnys owner
As well as haywards letter
nimble cairn
oh thanks
forest condor
And don't forget the imfamous words of the writers are large,. "soon"
:p
But with some answers it kinda opens up new questions, do the bosses come back to wherever they died?
nimble cairn
kindred zinc
quick favor to ask, if anyone has finished any of the sections in the monstrorvm can you screen cap and send me the pages?
slim hatch
@kindred zinc read #lore-discussion-hardcore all Iβve unlocked are there
wispy dome
Hey guys
How do the caged dogs survive without food
Whose feeding them??
I only want hunt showdown lore specialist
Its an important question
rotund ferry
Hey Anglish Friend's but i'm French, Salut y'a des français sur ce discord officiel ?
slim hatch
@wispy dome Look at the dogs, evaluate their condition, tell me if they are fed.
forest condor
@wispy dome they probably can grab a grunt or to when they get close, maybe get lucky with a crow, but essence is right, they are fairly malnourished
@desert dome check the pinned messages in this chat, I'd also suggest reading the lore pieces on the site, and all questions are welcome (except ones about ducks)
desert dome
I didn't know the spider was actually a human
forest condor
Yeah, it's a human morphed by an entity we call "the sculpter"
Same with the butcher
Everything but the water devils And the hellhound's are "human"
(and the sound traps ofc)
desert dome
I was reading the lore google doc
damn there was a lot of characters, incidents and stuff I didn't even know existed
forest condor
It's really interesting, we recently got a QnA with some devs that brought a lot of stuff to light
plucky maple
Where is there actual reference to this sculptor and these portals?
In-game or on official website?
sinful trout
@plucky maple hey there! sculptor is a name weve come up with for one of the entities at play in the louisianna event! (entity being a creature/demon from a different realm) portals are referenced in the qna, clues being unstable portals i.e possible to close.
plucky maple
So "sculptor" isn't official name? We just assumed a single entity was at fault and Word of God confirmed?
sinful trout
no we know for a fact there are multiple entities at play
plucky maple
Clues being portals doesn't make sense from gameplay perspective.
I did read the q&a
sinful trout
if you read (i think its the petella note) in game it calls the demon a sculptor
sinful trout
its in the in game book
also, clues are portals to the other realm. why the boss is able to make them is unknown.
and earlier in the hunt devellopment, when you got access tot he 3rd clue. you were able to "Connect" to the boss, and see through its eyes
theres a lore entry related to this
let me see if i can dig it up
however the "connecting" was disabled later in devellopment because it was too risky during gameplay as you were an easy target while connecting and it made camping even more atrocious
sinful trout
its in the lore doc under monstorvum
its transcribed, and copy/pasteable
1st pinned doc
sinful trout
yeah
plucky maple
Oh wait no.
sinful trout
the louisianna event book
plucky maple
You mean the little in-game thing
sinful trout
mm
plucky maple
Go vote for my idea to include lore collectibles in the actual game
sinful trout
like destinys ghost shells?
forest condor
I'd disagree with that approach, only because it favours luck and would leave people with incomplete lore snippits, I love the way they're doing it rn
I like that the books have guaranteed goals and don't rely on rng to dictate a collectable spawn
kindred zinc
@sinful trout ty fir sections I'm planning on doing a couple reading vids that's why I want full entrys but that's a good start
sinful trout
those are full sheets
if i were you id check out the lore doc... slightly more orginized
do oyu have any pages we dont?
river aurora
So with above, I guess that makes another canonical hunter.
Along with Sinan the Gun Poet and the Sinners.
And John Hayward Hunter
river aurora
river aurora
That guy in the bounty poster.
river aurora
Correctus.
sinful trout
we also have ada shell
river aurora
Who's Ada?
river aurora
Ah neat, I haven't played much of the CTB/TS so I haven't read all of the monster documents.
river aurora
Also, going on a completely different track of lore. I noticed something with the steam badges regarding the game.
sinful trout
go ahead
river aurora
Okay so;
Level 1: Bloodless | Couldn't find a meaning regarding that.
Level 2: Inner Circle | I'm speculating that it's a reference to the AHA organisation since according to the lore documents you have to be invited in. And It'd be in theory, an inner circle.
Level 3: Manhunter | Clear reference to the T3 hunter's since a wikia page on the Hunt Showdown wiki refers to the tiers as Apprentice, Cowboy and Manhunter for T1, T2 and T3 respectively.
Level 5: Magna Veritas | Latin for The Great Truth, speculating it had to do with the true deck.
But the big one which puzzles me is level 4, which is called Citizen of Den.
I tried googling for anything regarding that, but I couldn't find anything regarding the word Den.
sinful trout
i do believe citizen of den was from a page
the hunt wiki refers to t3s as manhunters?
river aurora
Mind sending a source? I must read this.
I need that knowledge so my dummy thicc brain can clap both halves really loudly.
sinful trout
i dont remember who pointed it out
river aurora
oof
sinful trout
mind linking the wiki? preferably the page where it refers to t3 hunters as manhunters
river aurora
https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Hunter
Hunters are available in three tiers: Apprentice, Cowboy, and Manhunter. Each tier has a distinct appearance and pre-equipped gear. The higher the tier, the more expensive the recruit.
sinful trout
sigh
written by Raylan
not sure who it is
but i doubt its a dev
so its probably dismissable
river aurora
I think so.
But then in theory, I mean. He's partially right. The T1 hunters do have a sort of amateur/greenhorn/apprentice look to them.
Just by the smallest degree. S'all
sinful trout
well yes
it was actually confirmed LOOOOOOONG ago by a dev that t1s initially dont have ds
but like i said
that was long ago
like when i first got into the lore
river aurora
So regarding that statement.
The T1's weren't intended to have the Dark Sight, or by the time in Hunt Showdown, they've been introduced and just gained the abilities to do such?
I'd say it'd be suicide to go into the Bayou without the Dark Sight.
Well maybe not suicide, but highly hindering
earnest jungle
Could be theyβd pair up a green horn who didnβt have dark sight with a hunter who did have dark sight to test their metal. Or alternatively the AHA just throws hunters into the deep end and let them sink or swim.
slim hatch
Well as much as is known, initiation into Hunter ranks is the process of gaining the DS.
Aka T1 hunters the greenies at least seem to have survived that and from there on well... How long they live is up to them and their luck. Hunters seem to usually form strong bonds with their partner aka, most hunters have same partner until death. Have yet to actually see a hunter who lost a partner and got a new one.
Ironically it seems to kinda also match the players, most have stable partners for hunting.
sinful trout
yeah, it seems that every committed hunt player has a "duo"
rotund ferry
I mean I cant speak from experience but if I was going on a hunt id have to be with somebody I trust who has my back
sinful trout
holy shit youre back
storm pumice
can someone explain what the true deck is?
does it have anything to do with the bounty cards that we get after the end of a match?
please and thank you
forest condor
So far all we know about it is that it is a deck of tarot cards that has great power
It was said that a hunter used it to forsee his death
Iirc he drew a card with the tower on it and became terrified
rotund ferry
@sinful trout shhhhhhh
sinful trout
lol
warm sequoia
what are tarot cards?
forest condor
They're used to supposedly tell the future @warm sequoia
There's several types and a combination of them can mean different things
warm sequoia
epic
rotund ferry
Used by gypsies
cloud mortar
Originally it was just a medieval card game, not unlike games played with common playing cards
At some point the idea came about that tarot cards were actually linked to the ancient Egyptian "Book of Thoth"
sinful trout
Who knew, thots have a place in huntverse
late ice
median goblet
I just started reading about the lore and stuff. Do you have all the information (since the start until now) somewhere?? Or do I need to read all messages in this channel?
burnt storm
Check out pinned messages (:
median goblet
Ohh thanks xD
forest condor
@median goblet glad to have you join in, most of the basics are covered in these articles https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/tagged/story#stickynav . these are the official story pieces on their websites. (most of )the rest are covered in the other docs including @sinful trout doc that covers a lot of the loose stuff so you don't have to search every nook and cranny. Happy hunting : )
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit?usp=sharing here's the doc. it covers characters, loose tidbits,newspaper articles and loose exerpts from around the map as well as a QnA with some of the Lore Devs
our main focus right now is connecting the book of monsters into what we already know and theorize,
median goblet
I'll read everything and see if I can help with anything afterwards. Thanks a lot!
forest condor
so in the lore ama announcement I think we get a look at the images of books to come
one of those is the monstorum tho
iirc
languid bough
We know they will do an equipement book with a desctription of all of our arsenal
forest condor
yep
median goblet
The other will be the Tarot Book
Or something like that right??
If I recall correctly they had something about a Book for the tarot cards in their old roadmap
It was in the Long term though
forest condor
i think the true deck is going to play a role
@slim hatch what was the third book called before the roadmap was removed? i know book of monsters and weapons
slim hatch
Book of Monsters, Book of Weapons and I'll be honest I don't remember the name of the 3rd one either
Was thinking about it a few days ago myself
forest condor
welp, i'll ask around, want me to @ you if i find it?
median goblet
Yes!
sinful trout
@forest condor i thoight it was the book of tales (or was it stories)
forest condor
I think that was it
rotund ferry
Book of Tools?
forest condor
Maybe
plucky maple
Book of Nagant pistol variants?
tight fulcrum
Does horrors of the gilded age tie into showdown at all?
rotund ferry
@tight fulcrum are you referring to what the game was originally supposed to be?
burnt storm
In what way? @tight fulcrum
We don't really know lore of horrors of the gilded age
It's a game doesn't exist in the end
red token
It's been a while since I pulled my deck
but the meanings are really conceptual
Tower means some kind of challenge
Death means change
The Fool means someone new and unskilled
The Heirophant is a master at their peak
Lot's of different interpretations
the purpose of the deck is to sharpen the power of the reader, not to provide the picture itself
cold carbon
So... going by the real life calibers of the "realistic" guns, compact, medium and long ammo would roughly correspond to .38, .45, and 7.62x54mmR munitions?
worn yoke
@cold carbon those would be the modern equivalents
There were a lot of smaller/different cartridges. 38spc wasn't invented at that time iirc
45LC would be the "medium" ammo
forest condor
the winchester 1873 was chambered in 44-40
this is what we can reasonably assume is the generic size for the compact ammunition
this is the ammunition used by the nagant pistol and it's respective variants, 7.62x38mmR
similar looks and size places it in the compact category
nimble cairn
worn yoke
The 1873 was chambered in a bunch of things, but definitely not 44-40 in game. Thatd be more powerful than modern.45acp
The 7.62x38 nagant round is more akin to modern .380acp, or .32 auto
.32-20 would be more realistic for the in-game winfield
forest condor
that was the original round it was chambered for, BUT we can assume it uses a form of .45 colt since it shares a bullet model for both the winfield and the caldwell pistol
worn yoke
However I'm not familiar with pistols chambering it, so we'd need to find a cartridge with that ballistic profile that both pistols and carbines fired
forest condor
.45 colt
worn yoke
45LC would be the medium bullet not the compact
.45lc is a big boye round
No way you could safely shoot it out of a cartridge conversion black pwoder gun, either
forest condor
it's not that large
it's big but not that big
especially when compared to the 10.4mm swiss
which is the medium round
next to the 7.63Γ25mm Mauser
which is also a medium bullet (for balance assumably so the vetterli should be the only one we look at)
worn yoke
Well medium ammo has a ballistic profile just spicier than .45acp so you could shoehorn .45lc into the same category as 41 swiss
I consider the medium cartridge things on par with modern, spicy pistol loadings. 7.63 Mauser is a bit under where 9mm is at, but it's in the ballpark
forest condor
that would be the compact ammo though, seeing as in modern terms we have compact (small caliber in pistol and smgs 9MM .45 ACP 50 AE (that's a joke)) intermediate cartridges ( 5.56x45 or 5.45x39) and rifle calibers (30-06, 7.62x54)
worn yoke
Well in the late 1800s the division would be more like a small pistol caliber, a large pistol round, and a rifle round
dry frigate
Hey, just want to let you know that I was out in Lawson Delta and found some Letters about the Civil War and maybe a connection to the Lore in general. I made a video about it, here's the link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xGpdxc11ks
amber harbor
Did anyone look into the papers during the hunt timeframe?
forest condor
@dry frigate I don't believe we've found most of what's in that video, thank you very much for finding those lore bits
earnest jungle
I feel like the Winfield should be a medium caliber as both the Winchester and Peacemaker could be chambered in the same cartridge (44-40) and none of the Winchester rifles were chambered in .38 Center fire (which the Colt Navy uses)
However the Upercut uses far to large a caliber. Although admittedly I donβt know how a 454 compares to a 7.62 Russian
However the Coldwell revolvers were custom made for the AHA so itβs possible ALL the weapons in game were custom ordered by the AHA and uses different Calibers than their historical counterparts
forest condor
they weren't we know they conversion pistols ARE conversions of the basic caldwell pax
so i guess the winfield shoots a smaller bullet then the pax
rotund ferry
I thought that the lever actions were chambered in .45 Long Colt, since that was an extremely common lever action cartridge
earnest jungle
The Conversion Pistol looks nothing like the Pax and is clearly based off the Colt Navy which was originally used Cap and Ball and was latter converted into a cartridge firing pistol after the civil war.
forest condor
sorry my bad, it was the army/navy variants
amber harbor
Found this link for checking newspapers from the time, based on a lead from the Q&A
forest condor
was that a lead or just a suggestion?
is anything just a suggestion with them?
full fog
what if the sculptors are actually people instead of some entities?
cuz we know there are multiple
forest condor
we know there are different types of entities, so far the only onjes mentioned were the sculpter and the poltergiest
worn yoke
Wait poltergeist? That's news to me
Man I can't wait for the lore to get fleshed out more.
forest condor
It was mentioned in some of the lore texts on their site
It's not in play for our incident tho
rotund ferry
What is the lore for hunt showdown? (only the basic lore, I don't want to have to make someone write for hours upon end)
cold carbon
So uh... found that picture, and both the compact and medium ammo type's boxes are labelled as .44 caliber.
Medium probably is either longer, or has a higher grain count for the powder.
sinful trout
@rotund ferry sorry im getting to you so late. If you check the pinned posts, youll find a document named hunt lore. Thats almost everything we have so far!
@cold carbon last time i checked it was just asset reuse
rotund ferry
thanks!
forest condor
@sinful trout btw i opened a general questions support ticket to see if I could get my hands on the first newsletter for the juci lore bits
at the prompting of the marvelous Fab
red token
So, do we know why one of the articles in the Louisiana Event book has 1977 written on it?
The one about street art
I figure that the Lawson Delta event eventually becomes the Louisiana Event, because whatever this eldritch shit is spreads outside of it.
So in 1977 it's still a known quantity
we're essentially reliving the hunts that happened in the past
while the actual plot is sometime in the mid-90s
forest condor
Most of what we are seeing in uncovered by a modernish historian guy basically, it's being compiled by a dude in (what we assume) is late 1900s
forest condor
@sinful trout they changed Bunny from an italian mastiff into a German Shepard
why would they do that
slim hatch
@cold carbon @sinful trout Late for the party, original texture was from Hunt Gilded Age, which indeed was an asset re-use it has been changed in 5.0 if i recall correctly
gleaming pawn
Wb essence
sinful trout
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1TOjh_4ARyhWgoygGbl7wEilDFqfJUJHmhD_ViL_rA/edit?usp=sharing
THIS IS AN EDITABLE LINK FOR THE MONSTORVUM
slim hatch
Guys Co-incidence or not? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winfield_Scott
Not even sure who we can ask about it π
Considering in-Game Winfield is Winchester
I think it's a bit of a technical question rather than lore
random lava
Dennis might know
random lava
π
vagrant glacier
Question, did the Hunters throw away any of their faith to become a Hunter? I have a really good headcanon story of a preacher that's a Hunter
river aurora
Not really. It's described that a bunch known as the Sinners where unironically faithful.
Just Nihilistic and accepting of the fact that they where all damned.
Which at least Sinan was, since J.W.H's journey entry confirms he gets 86'd and takes a dirt nap.
slim hatch
@vagrant glacier No there are religious hunters and even religious branches of hunters
But to say precisely how many of them are or aren't is very hard.
Also verified with Dennis Winfield Scott wasn't the inspiration for name Winfield
vagrant glacier
Gotcha. I was planning on writing a bit of a story about a preacher who is a hunter but feels conflicted since he is always dealing with "Demonic" stuff and taking the lives of other hunters
forest condor
@vagrant glacier most hunters rationalize it in their own ways, would be interesting to see your thoughts and story ideas on that. Feel free to @ any of us here for any questions regarding lore
vagrant glacier
I would be more then happy too! I have a 12 hour guard shift tonight so I'll write up a bit of it while I'm bored out of my skull
forest condor
Enjoy the shift as much as you can. And remember. All will fall under the gaze of the emperor. Those that don't shall be purged in holy fire
slim hatch
@vagrant glacier What Arpy said spot on also in #fanart I actually posted a story written by a buddy of mine. You can read if you're curious.
rotund ferry
I wanna see more young lookin fellas in the Hunt. I know back then there wasnt a limit on age at all of the sort when it came to the back when times during 1895-1900 so there should be "In realistic terms" Men that are looking at their age of 20s to even early 18s in the hunt now yeah?
twilit torrent
you can put it as a suggestion in #game-ideas @rotund ferry
rotund ferry
thats honestly not a bad idea can also fit in with the lore as well
plucky maple
Don't think lore discussions are for ideas
rotund ferry
My bad
forest condor
lore has a place in ideas
slim hatch
Lore belongs in Ideas but ideas donβt belong in the lore as we arenβt writers.
forest condor
Oh shit, I thought this was ideas discussion last night, yeah ideas belong there but if you want consultation on if it would fit in the lore this is a good spot
noble vine
@dry frigate uhm i peeped into your video from a week ago. Could you write your discoverys in here too? could help a lot
dry frigate
I already posted a link when the video came out, it must be somewhere wayyyy up in the chat. If need be, I will post it again of course but only if more people ask for it. I don't want to come over as the guy who yells: "Hey, look what I found!", you know?
forest condor
as long as it leads somewhere it's all good
also, would you happen to have taken screenshots of the drawings?
noble vine
i know what you meanπ . but it will surely help!
forest condor
@hexed schooner wanna talk about the sculpter?
hexed schooner
sure. I don't know too much about it but it has been mentioned in a few of the lore things I've read.
dry frigate
Ok then, as requested here's the link again.
Unfortunately I don't have any screenshots, but I can tell you where exactly you can find the letters
twilit torrent
nice that your branching out into the lore section of the game as well, keep up the good work
noble vine
π π π
forest condor
@hexed schooner sorry I didn't respond last night I was doin some things. So about the sculpter. What we know at this point is that the sculpter is an entity from a different plane, weather that is a different dimension or otherwise is currently unconfirmed. According to the recent QnA the sculpter and other entities are interested in our world based on greed and according to the grunt lore in the book of monsters it's turning the population into forms capable of being possessed (might not be the most accurate term) in some way
Now where it comes to your idea
We have no information on how the AHA's dealt with entities in the past, we know about a poltergeist that was defeated but now how. We also don't know if the sculpter even has a physical presence making him vunerable to our weapons
(What I'm assuming as of now is that the sculpter has very rare moments of physical manifestation if any at all when afflicting the populace but that topic hasn't been discussed so take this part in parentheses with a grain of salt)
modern grove
Where's a good starting point for this game?
To learn about the lore I mean. It seems difficult to get a general idea.
slim hatch
Pins in here and #lore-discussion-hardcore
forest condor
@modern grove varrun has a pin with a good deal of misc stuff. The website also has a good deal of decent reads, and the monstorum doc is a necessary read because that's going to be the highlight of our discussion here for a while
Don't forget the QnAs and the rest, QnA is much much more important than it sounds
sinful trout
@modern grove yeah check the lore doc! Has all qna,s, monstorvum, transcribed posters, and itty bita
earnest jungle
Yo I unlocked the lore for the spider do you want me to post it?
Well unlocked the first two parts of the spider's lore
I'm going to hunt so I'm going to just post it
languid bough
I think the first half of most of the monster are already unlock and available in lore hardcore. But thanks for the help. The only execption is water devil
earnest jungle
Oh I have the water devil give me a minute or two and Iβll post it
Wait sorry I only have the first part of the water devil never mind
earnest jungle
K
languid bough
Grunt 4, Hellhoud 3, Armored 3, Hive 3, Butcher 2, Meathead 2, Immolator 2, Assassin 2
No spider?
forest condor
We didn't have spider because it wasn't on test
languid bough
I'm working on it too, but it's not easy. I have the first two spider if you want them
Oh already here.
sinful trout
Ill transcribe at some point today
We have one entry in spider i thought
Yeah we have spider 1 @languid bough
languid bough
Oh. I could have give you the second entry but it's too late now. Out of town for the next 5 days
forest condor
Oof that sucks
grizzled burrow
Does anyone have a a good general summary of the lore
modern grove
Any lore reasons why there aren't any female hunters? I know it wasn't really a common profession back then for women to be apart of but from the letters that the one Hunter wrote to his daughter it seemed like she was going to take up the mantle as well, from the wording.
burnt storm
The reason is that female hunters aren't ready yet π
But they should come in the future
We'll have to wait for the roadmap update to know for sure
forest condor
@modern grove they're coming eventually, also the daughter of a hunter is expressly mentioned in the lore
modern grove
Okay, cool! And yeah Arpy, that's what I said π
forest condor
Oops I just read that again lol
modern grove
Also, he implies that her joining is eventual. Does that mean that Hunters are typically a bloodline?
forest condor
We don't know yet, reading into it has only created conflict on what it really means
modern grove
Gah, I love this game so much. The fucking lore is awesome
Like, it is very scarce the actual information we have but it all feels like it has actual answers, and not just 'ambigious'.
forest condor
I know right? It's awesome, glad to have a new lore geek
slim hatch
- Bloodlines were often mentioned in early lore, haven't been mentioned much since.
- There is plenty of lore just need to read.
- I should be sleeping
grizzled burrow
I'd imagine, you dont exactly leave a business like that once anyone in your family is in it, maybe darksight is genetic too
forest condor
We believe it's not, we know there's a ritual for at least the first time someone gets it
It's probably not passed down through blood though
But again, we don't fully know
hexed schooner
I've been ploughing through the enemies as quickly as I can to learn as much as I can about the lore. It's certainly evolved quite a bit from when it first started. It started out as some weird hybrid of cholera and possession and now a lot of it is being explained much more in depth that I really love.
sinful trout
If anyone has any entries that we dont have in the monstorvum please send them my way so i can transcribe them
forest condor
Il @hexed schooner if you get anything we don't have feel free to post it up here
hexed schooner
You bet. I'm a novel writer and the whole setting has just captured my imagination from the very start when I first heard of it. With it being fleshed out more now, it's definitely been great
forest condor
Oh yeah, I can't wait for the book of weapons, now that's the shit I can get behind lol
But this is gonna be great for the next few months
hexed schooner
For sure. it's really fleshing out quite a bit and giving some flavour ^^
forest condor
Yeet
rotund ferry
do we know who wrote the monstrorym or any of the books for that matter?
modern grove
The Monstrvm seems like it was written by Philip Huff Jones but most of the info was given to him by other hunters. I think a few are mentioned
slim hatch
Book of monsters is a collection
Not even a fact itβs actual single piece
Authors vary based on topics
modern grove
Same with the Louisiana Incidient
sinful trout
yeah the monstorvum was written by a collection of people. ex: tamrat scagnamillio, dr winkler, modern day researcher etc
forest condor
It seems to be compiled by a single person though, maybe the same guy who compiled the LA incident book
sinful trout
that would be modern day researcher i do believe. because before evey topic he makes a comment
slim hatch
It may as well just be a gameplay mechanic to sort related topics.
sinful trout
@slim hatch im confused... You think the narration at the beginning of every topic in a Lore book is a gameplay mechanic?
I think im missing something
sinful trout
Ooooh so you think the fact that the monstorvum as a book is a mechanic
And that it is in lore a bunch of files scattered
sinful trout
I still doubt that. Dont get me wrong. Its plausible. But highly improbable. I would say that it was conpiled into the monstorvum book by someone far in ahas future as a sort of history book
slim hatch
As we donβt have references to it as such to exist and or who compiled it
Also not fully here meeting starting
So talk laying
Later *
forest condor
Basically everything in game is just a game mechanic until some sort of lore is written on it, the grunts are just hitboxes until the lore is shown that flushes them out, the fact that they'd go to the legnths of having a book with exerpts from a "modern" day guy is fairly compelling to say there's a larger purpose than just a mechanic
amber harbor
Would be cool to get some sort of in game bonus for collecting all entries of a monster
Even tho collecting papers in-game might be more immersive, some documents may not have been written during the hunts we play in, such as the introductions by the researcher
burnt orchid
Bonus = avtomat obrez
forest condor
Yes please
burnt orchid
775
forest condor
That needs to be $1776
sinful trout
i mean, in all fairness. its just a carbine uppecut. with a scope and some melee attatchments. it has reduced damage from the sniper, so in reality... it would be kinda garbage. yes, it has adaptive melee to whatever youre fighting. but in its purest form. its garbage
forest condor
Semi automatic uppercut with a scope
forest condor
Hmmm u rite
sinful trout
making it still a single action revolver. with a silencer, reducing its damage severely
forest condor
Oops my bad π
sinful trout
WEVE GOTTEN OFF TRACK
hexed schooner
So there is talk of an asylum. Any info on that?
sinful trout
that is a structure that is seemingly controlled by aha
forest condor
We also know that some documents have been stolen but so far there's nothing on their retrieval
jaunty python
What year are the events of Hunt Showdown based in?
burnt storm
1895
earnest jungle
If I were to take a stab at this the Asylum is how the AHA deals with witnesses. It was laughably easy to have someone committed back then and frighteningly difficult to get them out. All it took was the signature of two doctors to get you in. But took eight doctors to get you out.
And it would be very easy to convince a doctor that the person ranting about walking corpses, giant spiders, and other monsters is having a psychotic episode.
forest condor
@earnest jungle one of the theories is it's a base of operations and a stageing ground for fighting off the entities
Because we do know that there are many important documents there
Although the idea that they take care of people there has been floating around for a while
vestal saddle
You have probably already thought of this but how about finding pieces of hunter journals through out the map that give us more lore, either about the event out break or the original hunters exploration itself? Could make for interesting side objectives.
slim hatch
When I hunt I hunt, when i look for lore I'm not hunting. Other players won't care that you're looking for lore they don't even care when you're trying to reproduce a bug so my position is "NO".
forest condor
@vestal saddle I'd have to agree with essence, adding collectables would hurt the process of finding lore and put people on uneaven grounds
And they DO have a system for showing lore in game, letters and posters show a great number of things about the area
sinful trout
@vestal saddle as a third opinion, this might be a long one.
as a very long term gamer ive played tons of games. many of them with obscure lore thats very fun to get into.(Bloodborne, dark souls, Destiny etc) the notable one in that list would be destiny. as most other titles have an easy way of showing lore either through items or in game cards.
but destiny.
there have been so many people during year one who begged for an in game grimoire. all of us vets from the first who hated going online to access the database. and the simple database was locked through very obscure locations, (where sometimes if you werent the right class, good luck getting there) and to top it all off. all of these obscure lore notes? were singular pieces to seperate puzzels.
nearly impossible to decipher. Pick up one dead ghost? oh look dredgeden yor. love to learn more about him, next ghost? heres some flavour text for a warlock. the problem with in game lootable lore notes, is that if you pick up a page here and there. theres no guarantee that theyre the same journal.
hunt takes a unique approach to this, almost like the same thing with witcher. (the more times you kill something, the better you learn how to kill it) but in this case, you learn the history behind it. the SHEER JUICY LORE
and as a hardcore lover of lore. this game has to rate in my top 5 for most Complex, yet satisfying lore. before the monstorvum, it was just a fucking book that we all stared at and pieced and pieced and pieced until we looked like a conspiracy theorist about vaccinations causing autism. nearly none of the connections from this book made sense. so we looked elsewhere. and because of that we made different connections back to the book. all of the sudden the book wasnt just another piece of lore
it was a FUCKING GLOSSARY
time over time we refferred back to petella note or the abdulaziz letter, these were considered as fact. they gave us a sheer baseline. connect that with the pices we found outside of the game? and we had ourselves a beautiful, (disgustingly human spider made) web.
and the best part about it?
it didnt affect our gameplay at all. when we went for a hunt? we went for a hunt.
we didnt look for little notes to take back out of the game, actually some of us looked but it was annoying and tedious dying every seven seconds, and mind you we found awesome stuff. but if there were little notes that we had to find to interact with to take it out of the game. it would become less of a sidebar thing. and more of a main thing. now when we hunt? yes, we keep our eyes out for cool lore stuff. but mainly, we hunt and enjoy ourselves.
so that is my rant as to why i dont think in game pick ups are a good idea,
runic dust
I have a question ... Maybe stupid but.
Why is there a "HARDCORE" lore discussion channel ? I mean, is that only for "Badass Lore Discusser" ? Or is there any other reason ?
amber harbor
@runic dust it was supposed to act like a filter for dumb theories which would end up being tsken as fact. But because of the recent lore drought it died
Now it's used to dump lore pics and files
sinful trout
Basically there wasnt enough lore for it to be viable. Yeah before it was a place for experienced non memers to have genuone conversations without being interrupted by trolls. Something changed and now its just a picture dump
@runic dust
sinful trout
@forest condor its interesting that the new spider entry seems to imply that the girl was a part of the spider "it was the girls eye, leering out a fold in the spiders flesh"
Mainly because it says flesh and not jaws. The only was i can see an eye ending up on the spider wedged inside a fold is either
A. The girl became part of the spider,
B. The spider cuddled the eye until it got stuck
forest condor
It could be that he saw the spider's eyes and became guilty from the events before
A stressed mind plays many tricks
sinful trout
Yeah its possible he only saw it as a hallucination
But the way he describes the experience. It sounds genuine
forest condor
well, he did say he was remembering the child when he fought the spider
sinful trout
he said he remembered her face.
amber harbor
So was Dr Reed voodoo related?
Seeing as the hunter says the spider isn't one of his 'creations'
forest condor
We should probably wait for the full spider pieces to be released, no reason to speculate too much until we know if it's proven or not
forest condor
Not to kill the spider so many times I start to relate to it
noble vine
I found this weird statue. Dunno if its gonna help, but maybe its interesting
round mountain
yeah
forest condor
2spoky4me
forest condor
No, I'm gonna work on it with zeb tonight
sinful trout
im torn. should each journal entry in the monstorvum have its own page? or should i keep each monsters lore as a continual thing?
i need community feedback for this
forest condor
Have a page for each monster with express breaker between the parts, maybe a long horizontal line
sinful trout
for the stuff that goes on for multiple pages though that would be a mess
i made sure all paaragraphs are on the same page.
that should clean it up
almost done. outline is finished the tweaking
should be easier to locate stuff now
forest condor
Yeah, use page breaks to cleanly break paragraphs
sinful trout
alrighty, monstorvum doc is updated as well
sinful trout
deus ye vult et
@earnest jungle did you unlock more spider? or anything we dont have rn?
sinful trout
noleg reed
earnest jungle
I've had finals this past week so I wasn't able to play as much as I've wanted
sinful trout
gotcha. ivbe checked the online wiki. it seems we have more than it does π¦
forest condor
Oof
sinful trout
@slim hatch have you gotten any more entries of the monstrorvm
slim hatch
Will check when Iβve time been pretty busy
sinful trout
@forest condor thinking back, why would he feel guilt if he saw the girls eye on the spider?
He didnt kill any of them, he only vuried them
forest condor
Maybe he felt guilty for not being there earlier, it seems reeds been doing some morally questionable things
slim hatch
Got pt2 of spider unlocked too
forest condor
Actually, looking back I think I did kill 5 spiders
amber harbor
I got spider pt 2 for free somehow
stiff vector
It's a bug. But you didn't get it for free tho
amber harbor
do pre 6.0 kills count?
stiff vector
No. But hives
forest condor
okay that's weird
forest condor
I just need good enough (imperial guardsmen turn around)
forest condor
That's one we need, I think last two on hive and armored, immolator can't be more than the first two
And screw water devil's amirite
slim hatch
I've 2 x water devils
It's harder to unlock
On Live because of other hunters
And my partner has been pain in the ass recently so he doesn't let me farm when we do map wipe
sinful trout
alrighty folks, we need as of right now
Grunt #5
Assasin #3
Butcher #3
Waterdevil #3
Hellhound #4
Meathead #3
Immolator #3
Hive #4
Armored #4
Spider #3
also would like to point out a passage in spider #2
"we never again found the grave id dug"
This seems to imply that whoever built the spider actually dug up and used part of a DEAD corpse.
sick epoch
I have spider 3
sinful trout
awesome!
sick epoch
I think
sinful trout
send it my way and ill transcribe it and throw er in!
sick epoch
How would you like it sent?
sinful trout
through disc works
sick epoch
Kk
forest condor
post da image BOII
sick epoch
Working on it
forest condor
i was jokdng take your time
sick epoch
forest condor
grr
sinful trout
if anikay is right, and it truely is doc 3. then that means we have a page missing
forest condor
maybbe they fudged up again
sinful trout
idk
forest condor
dsng, typing in vr sucks
sinful trout
there is obviously a page missing by the sound of the first page then transition to the second. its almost as if were missing a million pieces
HOLY SHIT
forest condor
ohhyhh
sinful trout
I CHECKED THE BLURRED VERSION OF SECTION 4 NA DHTATS WHAT ANIKAY SENT ME
HE HAS 3 AND 4
@sick epoch
forest condor
oh
sinful trout
send em up