#lore-discussion

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zealous palm
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But they're not zombies, even in the Vodou sense, because those are slaves to the bokor that reanimated them

keen mirage
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Depends on what mythology you take. Revenants are pretty much a stable all over. In in Greek folklore, you have undead that return if they've sinned or died a wrongful death.

granite shard
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They’re zombies in the modern sense of the word

zealous palm
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I meant the word itself zombie comes from Vodou and Yoruba

granite shard
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And it’s become a catch all for undead

zealous palm
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Yeah

granite shard
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And in a sense they also were similar to that traditional meaning of zombie with the way lynch resurrected them

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They now have their own will again but originally were there for her will

zealous palm
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Okay, that does make them closer, because in Vodou zombies can regain their own agency, but it's often from an external force and rare.

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Though iirc, if you feed one salt that can break the spell over them

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Salt, good for what (magically) ails ya

strange bane
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That Trailer was fantastic

noble scarab
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I’d imagine its like the rest of the trailers, just non canon

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Very good trailer tho

real cedar
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It's a sure thing that the other guy is the Statesman, but it's harder to tell exactly who this is. Jesse Buchanan: Rookie seems the closest fit especially with the mix of bandolier straps and holster straps, but it's not as definitive as I'd like.

orchid tangle
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god DAMN finally

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that ending makes me happy

granite shard
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But yeah I think a mix of canon and not canon

keen mirage
real cedar
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Or has he?

keen mirage
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He has. Unless he is to do so soon.

real cedar
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They like to play fast and loose with the tiered hunters so I don't worry about it too much

orchid tangle
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I think it's jesse

If they wanted to do a generic soldier place in they coulda just used the generic ones they used for the scrapbeak trailer

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the left is absolutely without a doubt the statesman though

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even though he sounds a bit different

real cedar
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Like Justin Pierce just got shot dead but chances are he'll show up in some trailer in October

orchid tangle
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no shot they plan to never do anything with turncoat ever again

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infernal pact cope

real cedar
# orchid tangle no shot they plan to never do anything with turncoat ever again

It's very possible. When's the last time you heard from The Gunslinger? She came out two DLCs prior to Turncoat and they've just never done anything with her, she might as well have been shot dead in a trailer back in 2022. Similar for BB hunters like Grotesque, Sea Wolf & Wight Raven, Servant of the Void, etc. Hunt is filled with these throwaway hunters, they might as well actually throw them away now and then.

orchid tangle
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idk I feel like the turncoat is just a pretty enjoyed hunter by people while on the flipside I've seen maybe like 3 grotesques in my life

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I could be wrong of course

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they do play fast and loose now but if they planned to do it permanently they can't do it forever less they run out of people to kill

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oh I just saw the lady of the night appearance at the end

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that feels a bit abrupt hahaha

real cedar
# orchid tangle they do play fast and loose now but if they planned to do it permanently they ca...

Agreed, it's better that they plan for these deaths when making the characters, which fits with 5/6 deaths being from this event, kinda like how they were ready to kill off The Fool or the Judge based on how players chose. There's still 150+ hunters they can invent friends for and then axe now and again, and they surely won't be making a habit out of it.
Plus they can always retcon it later cause trailers are the least reliable lore, and it's only through the absence of contradiction that they can hold any amount of truth.

orchid tangle
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I miss the judge

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at least I get 3 seconds of statesman content and more hints at the Lt Col coming

real cedar
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He better be the center of a whole ass event this summer and not just a story challenge in May

orchid tangle
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true

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I know we have plenty but I would enjoy some more army weapon skins

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mainly because they have a thing for giving it to weapons that have never seen US service ever so I would like some fixing in that

manic lichen
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Pretty sure trailers doesn't count anymore.
Otherwise everyone in Web of the Empress, except the Empress, would be dead too.

gilded umbra
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That’s what I was thinking. Whenever we see a hunter die in a trailer, someone potentially came along later and revived them.

real cedar
# manic lichen Pretty sure trailers doesn't count anymore. Otherwise everyone in Web of the Em...

It feels a little different with Devil's Trail cause they're playing it pretty straight with storytelling and a narrative seems to be progressing via the events depicted. Web of the Empress was a snapshot of random Hunter life with no story and was used to showcase the new hunters and features for the first time so of course they're not really dead yet.
If they never depict the scouts and turncoat gang again, I'm willing to believe they intended for em to die.

manic lichen
orchid tangle
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I feel like it's a wait and see kinda thing. I can see it go any way really

real cedar
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We might be forced to if Crytek is willing to change up how they treat trailers now and then and we only have our analysis of each one to go on.
Stormseer was mentioned later to be working with the Turncoat Gang alongside Head Taker so it seems like she survived, and Death Mask similarly gets paired with the Death Pact so he could come back at any time if Crytek wants.

manic lichen
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Yeah, like we know from Chary that, under the right circumstances, you can really resist a shit ton of punishment.
And we also know from Tide of Shadows that Death Cheat is actually a thing in this world.

orchid tangle
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this isn't anything important but I think it's funny the meridian turncoat gang is shown off in this way because this shot with men hunting other men down in the wilderness with the red sunny backdrop is how I was envisioning like half the scenes in blood meridian

gilded umbra
zenith perch
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Based off the conversation from earlier, I doubt anyone from the trailer is dead. Think of the Desolation trailer for example, Beekeeper died in the trailer but was alive for the actual event

topaz light
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I agree with Rai though, these trailers have been very different to all the other trailers.

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Obvious story themed/focused

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Except for the weird dlc advertisement at the end

granite shard
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I think a big thing too is there's no actual confirmation of death

zenith perch
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Did anyone get a screenshot if her new army

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If

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Of

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Jesus autocorrect

topaz light
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She gets a new army skin? 😔

zenith perch
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Yeh

topaz light
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Didn't pay attention

zenith perch
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One of my favorite guns

topaz light
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Unfortunate choice

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I'll be glad for you then

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Hope it's nice looking

zenith perch
topaz light
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I'm officer team

drowsy copper
granite shard
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I like narmy

zenith perch
topaz light
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No harmy

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(It's not true anymore)

drowsy copper
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kinda similar to lilith new army but with some red cloth wrapped around

hexed sandal
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any huge updates to the lore?

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Like are there still two innoculaions or is it completely retconned?

real cedar
# hexed sandal Like are there still two innoculaions or is it completely retconned?

There's 2.5+ inoculations currently. The historical AHA one, the Lynch one, whatever tainted version of the Lynch serum The Cook made up, and then potentially new inoculations revealed by Wyatt Preston in exchange for his life, but those have not been brought to light, just mentioned as treasure to be gained.
As for other big lore changes:

  • The non-AHA aligned military now has some awareness of the incursion (Devil's Trail)
  • A first-hand description of what it looks like when the Sculptor corrupts something was discovered (Brute lore)
    We're still more or less stuck on Scorched Earth as far as the core narrative goes but there's small hints suggesting something could happen (chances are nothing happens though)
hexed sandal
real cedar
# hexed sandal the historical one being the plant one? can you tell me more about that one?

It's been in use for an unknown amount of time within the AHA, and is known to contain groundsel, hackberry, devil's snare (datura), and something that makes the concoction taste like iron - previously we thought it was blood or even a hunter's heart, but it seems like introducing human flesh to the inoculation corrupts it so maybe not. Groundsel is poisonous, hackberry is safe, but datura is the key. It's historically been used to induce hallucinations and visions of an occult or religious nature, so it makes sense that it would serve as a key to unlocking Dark Sight.

orchid tangle
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I really do hope whitlaw brings some sort of outside tension to the story, I feel like he has the ability to bring in more behind the scenes lore with the backers and such since the military and backers who roughly would be the people to talk to when it comes to the incursions would be less crazy than other factions in the game, and would give a big possibility for civil conversation and lore drops

real cedar
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The serum itself is corruptive to a degree, as women who take it then get pregnant would have their blood latch onto the fetus and transform it into a monster, which happened twice; once long enough ago to cause the ban on women joining the AHA, and again with the birth of the Meathead.

hexed sandal
real cedar
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Yup

hexed sandal
# real cedar Yup

Huh so i guess that solves the thingy then, it never made sense that the Christian hunters would take her version considering it seems like that one is flat out contrary to everything they stand for.

but the OG version could fit lore wise

real cedar
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It's not too well explained but it seems like people didn't really know what Lynch was doing. She sold her human sacrifice demon-juice serum to Huff who distributed it to the hunters. Somehow the information got out of course cause Hayden Collins heard about it then wrote about it (maybe Lynch told the Twins and they told him and he filled in the blanks of what wasn't described) but Sofia and Hardin talk about it in Desolation's Wake and neither seem to concretely know what she did, beyond that she created it and was later revealed to be a witch, so the serum can't be trusted.

hexed sandal
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prob has something to do with hers and the sculpers realm if i had to gues

zenith perch
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Completely crackpot theory, but what if that's Lilith's revolver or the same style as hers

real cedar
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Could be the same style, hard to tell for sure, but it's looking like a pax trueshot

orchid tangle
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even though lilith escaped the cult it was my understanding that the symbol on all of liliths stuff was the cults symbol

real cedar
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The red ribbon going around it suggests it's a new style in a similar rich theme

orchid tangle
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goes deeper than just connected to her?

zenith perch
real cedar
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It could be, I'm terrible at judging barrel lengths

zenith perch
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I was thinking it would be wild if Lilith got a second skin

real cedar
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If she did it would be from a BP rather than someone else's DLC

zenith perch
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True

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Lilith is one of my favorite hunters

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She's cool

real cedar
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Ye it's definitely a Narmy now that I'm looking for the details

orchid tangle
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I kinda liked the idea on prexisting hunters getting an outfit swap secondary skin for colorado

not something I'd recommend devs spend their time on but something I personally enjoyed the thought of

spiral mica
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So, we all agree the recent trailer probably isn't canon, right?

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I mean, basically everyone from the current event kills each other.

fickle sluice
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I just sit here, being excited that we finally get some semblence of a bigger world. It was a matter of time until the "public" would and should have cought wind of the incursion. I am curious to see how they handle the army being involved without blowing it wide open

drowsy copper
granite shard
real dove
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Ooooo

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Are... Are PSB part of the corruption then

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👀

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Love the bit about her killing lewis

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So he's not cain

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Myth debunked

ashen mortar
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but she didnt kill lewis?

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it says she never met him

real dove
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oh the patron

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sorry

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i read that as her killing him- lewis brother- not the patron

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mb

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cain myth still avaliable

ashen mortar
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so do we think the band is port sulphur?

real dove
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i do. they have a bunch of stuff at the saloon

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also, i dont know if we have any other bands mentioned in the lore

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Rai would know more

noble scarab
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I can’t recall any other mentioned bands, none like the PSB anyway

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But thank you crytek for not killing my Cain headcanon

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I wonder if she’s supposed to know eddy davies/the spirited

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He also kept the bar there awhile

ashen mortar
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what cain headcannon?

real dove
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That Cain is the younger desalle brother

ashen mortar
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were can i read up on this?

zenith perch
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the dlc looks so good

real cedar
# ashen mortar so do we think the band is port sulphur?

100%, PSB witnessing Lewis Saloon turn into a bunch of grunts as they played has been mentioned a couple times now. Once in a loading tip,

During a live performance one humid July night, the Port Sulphur Band appeared at a local saloon, only to witness the entire audience’s gruesome transformation before their very eyes. No one knows if any of them actually made it out alive…
and then Lewis Saloon has a picture of the band on the wall, which is also referenced by their old spotify bio:
The year is 1895. A group of haggard traveling musicians, newly arrived in Lawson Delta, have been forced to face horrors they could not have imagined. Stories and hints of what they faced there have made their way into the songs the Port Sulphur Band wrote. Only two would make it out alive, a photograph in the ruins of what once might have been a saloon the only evidence they were ever there at all.
And lastly parts of the exclusive letter that came with the physical album on vinyl:
I walk among the survivors and am greeted with a smile. If only they could see my insides, rotten and worm-ridden. I hunger only for flesh, but for now I can still ignore the voices. Instead, I transcribe their stories and their threats and put them to music. Instead, I incite the crowds to devour each other before my eyes, feeding off of their hunger and violence and need. I will them to bite and tear into flesh, the thick watery pustule of an eye popping between yellowed teeth, long strings of skin peeled from spidery limbs with broken, dirty fingernails. The wild, empty look in their eyes as they begin to scream. They do not seem to know that they are the ones performing. The darkness passes through me, and into them. I could not close the door, even if I wanted to. Is it I who am the fool? Or is it them?

real dove
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psb event whennnnnnnnnnnnn

prime tundra
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Sunshine is here. So fingers crossed it comes with a guitar melee weapon

analog pendant
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Do we know what Hail Mary did to get excommunicated, as is mentioned by the description of the Revelation (Quad Derr)?

spiral mica
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She killed a man, and a few more. She shot them down, and left their bodies cooling on the old dirt floor.

prime tundra
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That'll do it.

bitter basin
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does every hunter play a role in the entirety of Hunt Showdown lore or only some do

real cedar
bitter basin
real cedar
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A lot of the conflict comes from the day to day order that has to be maintained while searching for a way to accomplish the big goals. Most hunters are just here for pay and thrills rather than dedication to ending the crisis, so half of the focus goes to keeping these killers in line.

bitter basin
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thanks alot

gilded umbra
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The Sculptor works in mysterious ways.

analog pendant
gilded umbra
real cedar
gilded umbra
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Hunt 2 could be in a more modern setting but I was just thinking maybe they could go back to medieval times.

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But then again, with Hunger releasing soon maybe not a medieval setting but possibly 1926.

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The Roaring Twenties had jazz and maybe we could have a Marilyn Monroe type of hunter.

noble scarab
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I think the slow cowboy guns are what makes hunt work

analog pendant
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Literally

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Once we get more Atvomat-esque guns, the magic fades into a supernatural period COD or Tarkov

gilded umbra
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Ok then, Hunt: Showdown 1796 with muskets. HntBigSad

prime tundra
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It's tough because I want to see more of the mystical side of things. But having it kinda behind the veil is one of the best parts of hunt.

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Like where's the line before hunt becomes Hunt Shadow Wizard Money Gang.

mint wind
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@real cedar booh, may I suggest the addition of the new spyglass effect for its update history ? Now it will show the carts on the compass, it was added for the DT event :>

real cedar
mint wind
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Oof.

real cedar
tranquil tusk
real cedar
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Hunger is still looking good for lore, the missives the devs are putting out are intense and rather in depth, kinda like Hunt's early stuff before they changed writing teams twice.

smoky basalt
tranquil tusk
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I'm hoping it's good. But, the core gameplay still seems to be around collecting random junk to progress your character.

I keep hoping the extraction shooter genre will move away from trash collection toward other drivers of pvp action. But, everyone making games in the genre still seem to think the core mechanic has to be scavenging.

Except for Hunt. Which is why, even after 8+ years, Hunt is still a hidden gem.

gilded umbra
loud steeple
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Yeah that’s why hunt is so great. You don’t need to spend 3000 hours every wipe no lifing the game to be competitive

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You have access to pretty much the same gear as everyone else from day 1

distant solar
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So…as someone who’s never played where should I start with the lore?👀

gilded umbra
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@real cedar is the most qualified person to answer that question. 📚

real cedar
# distant solar So…as someone who’s never played where should I start with the lore?👀

HazmatFTW on youtube has some good introductory videos to get the core idea and tone, and then videos on any specifics you might be interested in.
To get into the text lore itself, you can either use the Compendium (in the pinned messages of this channel) or the wiki (https://huntshowdown.wiki.gg/wiki/Lore)
In either case, going down the list starting from the Louisiana Incident then the Book of Monsters then Book of Weapons works the best. That sets up the world and background in more or less the chronological order they were released in, then the event stories begin to move the plot forward. Online blogs add in some extra details here and there and mainly work to fill out the world a bit more so they can be read whenever.

Hunt: Showdown 1896 Wiki

The Lore of Hunt: Showdown 1896 takes place at the end of the Gilded Age, where a mysterious Corruption has overtaken a Louisiana bayou outside New Orleans and later a Colorado mining town in the mountains. While the story happens in the 1890s, the lore itself is epistolary, told through recorded documents...

analog pendant
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Got to #bug-reports-pc or somewhere instead of saying this in like every accessible chat😭

gilded umbra
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In the Bayou cruelty is common like the sounds of crickets

subtle crystal
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I need a lore dump of the Bandit and Highwayman, can anyone help?

strange bane
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The Bandit~Hungry for wealth, fame, and glory, the gang called the Blackhand Bandits were notorious–until the day when the money went missing and guns were pointed. Only one walked away from the bloodbath: The Bandit. Once he’d spent the blood-money, he joined the Turncoat Gang for more.

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The Highwayman~ Wit Ottaway has distant memories of an honest life. He made his name as a highwayman, until he robbed someone he shouldn’t have and learned something he couldn’t forget. This mistake chased him until The Turncoat gunned it down, and now he repays him with a life debt.

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Then there is their respective equipment

strange bane
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No trouble at all , the Wiki helped me assure there were no errors admittedly haha

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Fantastic lore for the Turncoat gang

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Vibes abound

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They make a decent foil and contrast with the other key players this event (One Who Flies , Red Raven, the Cook)

subtle crystal
strange bane
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The Firebreather was once a part of the Turncoat Gang, until some unfortunate circumstances occurred involving another member by the Moniker of Head Taker

upbeat kiln
supple horizon
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Black Coat gang > Turncoat Gang

strange bane
strange pecan
upbeat kiln
strange pecan
strange bane
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You know the Prescient Night predicted all this

strange pecan
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You're not gonna believe this; she killed 16 Hunters in Lower DeSalle! Broad was an interior decorator!

Her salloon looked like shit..

upbeat kiln
strange bane
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How bout that Backer’s face when he saw the Sword

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“We’re with the Backers!”

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Whatever happened to John Victor? The strong, silent type

dull sandal
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Who's the night speaker

gilded umbra
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The Night Seer?

granite shard
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Iirc the night speaker is who made the revenant

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We don’t really know anything on them beyond that

noble scarab
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presumably night cult related too^

granite shard
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Yup!

dull sandal
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Is there any good lore channel besides the guy who talks with the most obnoxiously raspy voice ever

analog pendant
granite shard
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There’s not really a big lore scene on YouTube or anything unfortunately

dull sandal
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There's so much I don't know but want to

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Like who's in what pacts

granite shard
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The pacts are pretty fluid

dull sandal
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Oh

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Are there not like strict members besides a few? I remember when we could like pick a side

granite shard
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People tend to flit from pact to pact depending on what’s going on in the story. Like reaper was part of the infernal pact in Devil’s moon, but as of tide of corruption he abandoned the infernal pact for the death pact

dull sandal
granite shard
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Yup!

dull sandal
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So entity from dbd

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What's dark sight? Is that what we take that makes us immune to the influence of it

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Like is that included in cosmic negation

granite shard
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There’s an inoculation that hunters take that immunizes them to the corruption

dull sandal
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Such as the rev

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Or was he just a dead dude

granite shard
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So the revenant is different from the grunts

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He’s more of an actual zombie who was raised from the dead, not infected

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But there is a hunter who took the inoculation after being infected! He’s one of the twitch drop hunters, appropriately named the infected lol

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The inoculation has slowed things down and helped him out

dull sandal
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Oh

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I see

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So

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The bosses

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Who give us the bounties?

granite shard
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It used to be the American hunters association, but they fell apart and now it’s these rich guys called the backers

dull sandal
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I see

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So all the hunters have immunity via the injection?

granite shard
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I do gotta go to bed now, but if you check the pinned messages, there’s links to two documents that compile all of the lore from the game!

granite shard
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(Also if anyone else is online they can answer your questions, but alas I am sleepy lol)

spiral mica
loud steeple
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I thought all hunters have the inoculation

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That’s what gives them dark sight

spiral mica
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I think the inoculation that gives them dark sight and the immunity to the corruption are two different things.

dull sandal
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What's up with the bosses? Do they like come back or is it canon that once they die they're dead

spiral mica
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William Moses was held up inside his farm for days until the AHA stumbled across him during a hunt. There's also that guy from the Haymaker mastery who was definitely uninoculated and was traveling through the Bayou, found Assassin, and was offered a spot among the hunters yet denied the proposition and went back north where he came from.

spiral mica
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Each boss has different origins, but the circumstances for their continued existence remains the same.

dull sandal
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I see

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Is it the same with hunters? Or do they die for good

spiral mica
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Some hunters are currently deceased for good, others have come back, and some we don't really know for sure.

dull sandal
loud steeple
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The gameplay doesn’t really make sense lore wise

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In the lore each hunter has one life

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The drowned ones came back from the dead once iirc

spiral mica
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In previous events we've seen traits described as being used by certain characters throughout the story. One particular example was Cardinal rain using remedy to heal an injured Chary.

dull sandal
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So traits r canon?

spiral mica
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But Basilino is also partially correct. Some of the gameplay aspects do not align or translate very well with the narrative.

spiral mica
# dull sandal So traits r canon?

I think they're canon to a certain degree, but magically bringing hunters back from the dead would probably be regarded as a rare occurrence.

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Bad Hand and the drowned pact hunters are a few examples of dead hunters who've genuinely cheated death.

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I'm not sure about other hunters like Death mask, Infected, and Ochenkov. They're like partially grunt or something. I don't entirely understand how it works.

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Oh and False saint is another hunter who I think has definitely come back from the dead a few times iirc

loud steeple
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The infected is just halfway to being a grunt

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Death mask was a grunt and was somehow brought back by the Corvids

gilded umbra
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The lore of Hunt is deeper than a sea floor traveled by mantis. 🦐

dull sandal
upbeat kiln
dull sandal
upbeat kiln
dull sandal
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I think it's cool, it sounds like Shohreh Aghdashloo

gilded umbra
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🔥 Inferno 🔥

vivid crystal
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who lit the fires?

dull sandal
noble scarab
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Stuff just kinda happens now, no lore explanation needed

prime tundra
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ITS THE SCULPTOR AND THE CORRUPTION

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The sparks of madness made manifest. (Or something idk.)

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Maybe the Welder Brother's were playing with matches.

dull sandal
analog pendant
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Hellborn started the fire🗣️

It’s been burning since he done got turned

Hellborn started the fire🗣️

No we didn’t light it but we’ll try an’ survive it

spiral mica
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I always found it ironic that the infernal pact never started either of the previous infernos.

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And this time we don't really get an explanation as to who or what started it, but Hellborn suddenly appearing in the Bayou is probably the best assumption.

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Also, because Hellborn has suddenly appeared in the Bayou it's also a good assumption that the Sculptor has probably begun making copies of him now.

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But like Tib said earlier, everything kind of just occurs now. There isn't really any larger narrative anymore.

fallen knoll
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I mean there a bunch of laterns immolators hellborn any of that could've started the fire

fallen knoll
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my favorit theory is some idiot try to summon a sculpcter crreation but failing miserably

manic lichen
gilded umbra
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The flames dance and seduce you while potentially being the lovely cause of your agonizing demise 🔥

balmy flint
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Why don't Waterdevils eat the ducks?

gilded umbra
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I’m not sure, but I think a Water Devil Bomb would be cool. Throw it in water and then they would activate and attack. 🪱

dull sandal
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So what all do we know about the pacts

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I'm a bit confused on them

real cedar
# dull sandal So what all do we know about the pacts

The pacts are loose organizations (except in the case of the Drowned which are four people only) of ideology and motive that began to spring up around the time the AHA fell apart and lost control of the situation.
There has been multiple eras of pacts, so people have moved between them over time. Here they are more or less in chronological order:

Infernal Pact: AHA loyalists (who followed the fraud Mr. Chary) and those who fight the corruption for the sake of greed & power
Lunar Pact: Ideologists that want to prevent further corruption and stop the Infernal pact's power grab
Grounded Pact: Neutral parties and those who fight as a matter of survival, their bayou homeland is corrupted
Smuggler Pact: Those who fight for the sake of greed and looting treasure
Primal Pact: Those who fight for the thrill of the Hunt and to remain under natural law rather than live under the burden of civilization
Death Pact: Those who fight to uncover the secrets of the Sculptor and ultimately put an end to the metaphysical issue of the dead rising.
Demented Pact: Those who fight as an act of worship to the Sculptor, and want to ascend to become monsters themselves
Drowned Pact: Zombie-like people brought back to life by the witch Lynch, who ended Desolation and now protect the Bayou
Lawful Pact: Those who fight to maintain order, either to bring back civilization or to punish lawbreakers within the Hunter community
Wilderness Pact: Those who fight as a matter of survival to protect their homeland, but this time in Colorado.

The Pacts still exist in lore, but their use in gameplay ended in 2024.

dull sandal
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Being em back

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I want em

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Wasn't there something with the death pact a while ago?

real cedar
dull sandal
real cedar
# dull sandal What was that about?

It was about Crytek wanting to have players do a PvP contest HUL
The lore is very thin there and for some reason Sofia (more or less the leader of the Death Pact) fights her own pact on the side of the undead.

dull sandal
real cedar
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In game

dull sandal
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But also lead undead?

real cedar
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🤷 If we take that to be part of her character, yeah.
The lore is pretty loose these days so if something isn't confirmed elsewhere then it can be taken with a grain of salt

dull sandal
real cedar
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They haven't said so as far as I know but they haven't done a "Hunters are locked into pacts and can't get event traits from other pacts" thing since Harvest of Ghosts. Everything after that was freeform traits and murder circus troupes which are just trait dispensers.

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We also haven't heard any pact doing anything narratively since Scorched Earth, just these little descriptors from weapon skins and such

dull sandal
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Restriction is fun

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Because it's change that brings difficulties without making you worse to say

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Just a different approach

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Also I'm a dork and wanna know what pact my characters would be in and the interactions they gave n whatnot

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Y'all can probably tell off the name I treat characters as more than thet

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Shits cool as hell

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I wanna know what the big bird followers would do

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Especially because theres so many different pacts and the lines are blurry

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Almost like sects if like religions

dull sandal
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What are the sealed hoard things

hoary jungle
# dull sandal Restriction is fun

The fact that the lore is suffering is a tragedy, but the issue with the pacts gameplay-wise was that they seemed to struggle balancing them well. There was pretty much always one clear option to pick. On occasion, there might have been a second pact that had a really good perk that was worth 1 person on your team having, but mostly everyone took the same pacts.

If they could somehow bring the pacts back and make them harder choices, that would be cool!

granite shard
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guy doesn't seem to have a great grasp on hunt's lore, but this was cool to see pop up in my recommended feed! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RirVCRJK5eQ

In This video, I analyze the many monsters in Hunt Showdown

Support me here!!
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro
0:39 OP
1:32 The Basics
3:38 Content Warning!
3:54 The Hellhound
7:14 The Grunt
10:48 The Armored
13:35 The Immolator
19:16 The Hive
25:10 The Meathead
30:38 The Brute
34:33 The Firebreather
39:34 Afterword...

▶ Play video
spiral mica
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I got that video too. It's actually a pretty good watch.

granite shard
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nice! I just started it and am planning on watching more of it in a bit

gilded umbra
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He’s right, Hunt is one of the greatest PvP First Person Shooters ever made. 💯

gilded umbra
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Headshots from Highroad Livery: Silencer are the final movement of an exquisite symphony HuntHeadshot

gilded umbra
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Is the Bone Doctor part of the Death Pact?

granite shard
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not to my knowledge, but he was part of the lunar pact

analog pendant
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Pacts? I remember when they were importantSadHunter

spiral mica
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iirc he was partnered with Lunar pact, but not actually an official member. He told them how to burn some kind of herb (I forgot the name) and that helped them harm Chary during one of the event stories from the moon trilogy.

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I think I've mentioned it once or twice here before, but I've always found it ironic that Infernal pact never once started one of the infernos. The first time around it was the Lunar pact, the second is unspecified, but it's believed to be because of Rotjaw banishing from tide of shadows, and the current inferno is probably because of Hellborn or the fire breathers.

granite shard
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Also iirc the infernal pact was also burning shit, the archeologist was fairly pissed at both groups for wrecking the bayou

pulsar hill
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i hope they nuke the bayou so i can play lawson instead

real cedar
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Has anyone else caught some easter eggs in the Inferno? I found what I think is a reference to Terminator 2, on the eastern road from Slaughterhouse to Healing Waters.

noble scarab
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theres the ghost rider + horse on desalle, nearing church if i remember

spiral mica
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There's also the flaming skull at first testimonial

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But I think that Terminator 2 one is new. I've never seen it before

gilded umbra
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There is no fate but what we make.

zenith perch
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what pact do you guys think Mary is in after the lunar pact

spiral mica
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Maybe death pact with wormbite?

odd monolith
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What are pacts?

real cedar
# odd monolith What are pacts?

Pacts were a part of older event structures. Players would pledge their hunter to a pact via boxes found at supply points, and then gain an event trait from it, and be able to later purchase a second event trait specific to that pact. Some legendary hunters came pre-pledged to pacts, and there were lore connections describing what the pacts were doing / what they were fighting over in event stories.
The pacts began with Devil's Moon in 2022 and ended with Harvest of Ghosts in 2024, though Murder Circus had troupes which were almost like pacts but not. Over time, less importance was placed on pledging to a pact and they more or less became boxes that gave an event trait and you could mix and match as you like.

brazen root
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Lorewise, after the AHA dissolved, Hunters were gathering in pacts based on shared causes

spiral mica
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Even before the AHA collapsed it wasn't uncommon for some hunters to organize themselves into groups like the Sinners and Night of the Hunters. Isaac Powell was initiated into the hunt by a small, unnamed group of militamen, and before the infernal pact even had a name they were just referred to as "Chary's lot."

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Some of those groups may have not had the word "pact" in their name, but that's still basically what they were/are.

gilded umbra
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Are there any hunters in-game that belonged to the Sinners pact?

granite shard
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the viper was part of the sinners, I think they've left them as of the end of serpent's moon

noble scarab
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Odd we never got a more direct or prominent sinners hunter

real cedar
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Likely because the Sinners as a concept is from the first writing team and mainly exists as trivia rather than a real identifiable group, the other writers likely don't want to do much with em cause it's not really a concept they can fully control start to finish.

spiral mica
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Well, at least there's that bow and springfield skin in the game that proves they existed as part of the narrative at one point.

regal trout
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Is it still canon that every legendary gets the serum?

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I'm trying to think how Monroe or Cain got it

noble scarab
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Monroe is at least sane enough sometimes to be civil and work with other hunters so he likely received it when he joined the AHA

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Cain may just running off a more natural immunity

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Or he did the skull taker thing and stole it from some other hunter and somehow figured out how to inject himself

digital meadow
regal trout
real dove
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Questionable about the mind thing

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They def are special lil bunch

keen mirage
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My headcanon is that the Demented started to form even before Tide of Shadows, they just became more prominent after the Flood of '93. We already know Morigan and Midian worshipped the Scrapbeak in another cult, before they killed them and moved to the Bayou. So Butcher's Cleaver was more than likely already a Hunter that became psychotic after years and years of boar hunting, or whitnessed a Butcher transformation that fed his delusions.

At least 2-4 representatives have some twisted obsessions with their "patron". Butcher's Cleaver was a boar hunter. The Cowl had a fascination with beetles. Then they either took to hunting as a means to ascend after learning of the AHA. And it's not uncommon of the AHA to recruit any sort of scum and allow in-branch fighting, so long the bounties keep being collected.

frank crescent
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i wish them made novels on this

spiral mica
steep willow
zealous palm
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What culture is Skull Taker from?

real cedar
# zealous palm What culture is Skull Taker from?

Unknown. The symbol on the skull is icelandic/norse but he's got dark skin - idk if its pigment or painted tho - and his bio describes him travelling the world so he could be from anywhere.
The closest culture that fits is a bootleg 1896 version of the alien Yautja from the Predator franchise.

zealous palm
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I thought the symbol was nordic

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But yeah, Hunt Yautja XD

prime tundra
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It was first found in the Huld Manuscript in 1860

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So even then, he's got that sorta mystery vibe.
He's a "head hunter" which as an archetype doesn't narrow things down either.

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But yeah the way finders compass is from Iceland at least (but it's one of those might be just some dudes art they attribute to the ancestors of a culture they fetishize)

frank crescent
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about time to make some novels for this

graceful cedar
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i legit just want books based based in this world, would love them

prime tundra
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I know I have a tentative outline for a short story.

Like they have a lot they can do.

frank crescent
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indeed . hope they get them or non official ones

brazen root
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Just the general idea of a group of misfits heading out into the swamp to hunt a monster, potentially meeting other misfits on the way is a perfect setup for a story

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Whether it's a novel, short story, movie, tv show, whatever

prime tundra
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And you can definitely play up the fun or go for more horror

Or everyone's favorite "people can be the real monsters"

zenith perch
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How do you guys feel about charms?

gilded umbra
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I like them and use them, especially the Mythic and Twitch Drop charms.

zenith perch
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I missed out on the daughter of decay one but I'm not sure if it was even worth it to begin with

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Kinda sucks cause I like daughter of decay and would have liked to have the charm

spiral mica
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The only reason I missed out on the garden of the witch one was because an event point code expired before the actual event was over which was very silly.

upbeat kiln
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@granite shard can you nuke this? 😄

tawny moss
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Hi guys, I don't get it, what's the point for the cowl to kill the assasin, what's the point for Midian and/or Morrigan to kill scrapbeak etc. Is there a lore explanation for this?

gilded umbra
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Maybe to harness their power? 🤔

spiral mica
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I don't recall it explicitly saying Midian and Morrigan attempting to kill Scrapbeak, but I know Cowl has encountered the assassin on several occasions and each time has recieved injuries.

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Cowl's whole character seems to be aimed at harnessing and focusing chaos in some elaborate attempt to come out on top of the situation.

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I also know that there seems to be some perception that these monsters that the sculptor keeps making and resurrecting are "impure" and groups like the Night of the Hunter slay them and paint their clothing and equipment and their blood as some sort of sacrifice or offering.

real cedar
zenith perch
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What do yall think of the beware the shadow recolors

spiral mica
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I'm not particularly fond of the color yellow, but I think they're fine.

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It kind of bums me out because it's a reminder of what I missed out on before, but at the same time it is what it is.

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If you're a fan of running Teche then these new skins definitely match him.

rare dirge
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I just like how they are handling it I’m so glad they are not just outright rereleasing old exclusive skins but rather giving recolours so that if you like the skins you can still get them but allows the people who got it originally to keep the originals

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Plus the potential to expand on the lore

noble scarab
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the weapon recolors are nice, particularly the winnies

rare dirge
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I don’t like the off green on some of the things but generally they all look pretty nice

zenith perch
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I wonder if they'll do the Scrapbeak event

rare dirge
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I bet they will go back and do them all

zenith perch
zenith perch
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I hope they redo it

rare dirge
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I missed both light the shadow and scrapbeak events so those items and mainly those 4 hunters is some of the only stuff I’m missing in the entire game

zenith perch
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I want the bomblance and medkit

rare dirge
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Yeah

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Those are some of the best items

zenith perch
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I'll go back to being a Morrigan main with the bomblance

rare dirge
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Hopefully the recolour still captures the feel in a good way the colours on the light the shadow stuff is kinda gross on some of them but others show some good potential

gilded umbra
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Bomblance is the most brilliant and unique weapon in the game. Bomblance

zenith perch
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I have the bomblance I took off of someone

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Never prestiging

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It's my trophy

rare dirge
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Actually I really like the saw blade launcher from the circus due to how it kinda captures that feel

rare dirge
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Yeah but that’s based off of an actual gun

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They just made it

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Like useable

zenith perch
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Lmao

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Yeah

rare dirge
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Since if I remember the lemat like exploded in peoples hands a lot

zenith perch
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Also was a blackpowder gun

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Shot lead balls

rare dirge
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Yeah sounds kinda gross ngl

zenith perch
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Realistically you'd only have your 9 rounds and that's it

rare dirge
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Plus the shotgun shell

zenith perch
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No more using that gun for the rest of your hunt

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True

rare dirge
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Pretty much

zenith perch
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Ok

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What's yalls favorite weapon charms?

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I only really use four

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The new owl one, eye gouger, boreal point, and the arrowhead one

rare dirge
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I hardly ever equip them unless I have one that matches the skin I use but I like the clock bonus charm from whatever event that was and the poker chips one and finally prob the serpents moon memorial and snake eater

noble scarab
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the blood bullet, the whistle, the new owl one, the jaw one, the hay effigy

zenith perch
zenith perch
rare dirge
zenith perch
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Doesn't really fit her imo

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The gold I mean

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I think it'd be cool if it was like a bloody piece of wheat or something

rare dirge
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True

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Still kinda works

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I’m pretty sure I have that one but I don’t pay attention to my charms enough to know

zenith perch
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So I use that ram horn fragment one and mother's gift for daughter of decay if I use a charm with her

noble scarab
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i really only put them on certain guns and they have to not flop around too much

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that one winnie skin with the dream catcher and a charm is impossible to use

rare dirge
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Some of them are a detriment to the gun itself too like the rival has the strings cover part of the sight on it

zenith perch
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I feel like these too fit DoD better

rare dirge
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I love that horn piece one a lot too tbh

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I run that on a few skins

noble scarab
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the horn one goes with perchta for me

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and the wolfs bane lebel

zenith perch
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I like the lore for Mother's Prize, talking about nature gone wrong and unnatural

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The rock one

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Sounds so cool to me

upbeat kayak
zenith perch
zenith perch
prime tundra
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The Rosary on Uppercut (due to the fitting animation)

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And the pocket watch (I use it on conversion because when I hit the grips it feels like I'm trying to get the time going again)

spiral mica
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Marred murex holds a special place in my heart because I have fond memories of my family at the beach looking for seashells.

analog pendant
real dove
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the one about her cat?

analog pendant
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Yerp

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Sorry for the late reply😭

gilded umbra
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I like how that weapon charm looks in a night map. 🗺️

feral fog
drowsy copper
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whats master of treasury's lore

real cedar
real cedar
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Ohh this guy. That little blurb is the entirety of his lore, we don't ever hear from him in other contexts. The 'true deck' was an early idea for in-game tarot cards that got scrapped, the current in-game tarot cards can be considered their evolution.

drowsy copper
real cedar
# drowsy copper who are the sinners? also ive read that sinners sinew (bow skin) has a writing o...

The sinners are a group of middle eastern Hunters that believe they are damned to hell no matter what they do, so they may as well face hell on earth and do good before being condemned, and live without hesitation or conscience. The Viper is the only playable Hunter that is or was a part of the group, while John Hayward and Sinan are mentioned in text lore in 'Remembering John Hayward Hunter', 'Journal of John Hayward', and 'Armored Mastery'.
The writing is on the side of the bow.

spiral mica
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What does the writing on the bow translate to?

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Some kind of prayer?

mint wind
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It says ||"yo mama"||

drowsy copper
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Who is the last sinner

gilded umbra
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Us HntBigSad

topaz tree
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i want a model of the bandit without his face covered please 3d artists

spiral mica
spiral mica
zenith perch
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do yall think that Rd Raven and One Who Flies would be part of the Demented Pact?

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Along with The Cook?

spiral mica
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Probably not because they're not out to kill monsters to gain the sculptor's favor and achieve ascension/metamorphosis.

vestal forge
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Is there any good way to listen to the lore?

granite shard
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if you go on the website, the lore from the events is all voiced. unfortunately, the monster & weapon lore is not voiced

real cedar
ocean mist
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Lmao so the funniest thought came into mind after this last DLC hunter Lady Lewis

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What happens if Port Sulphur Band is like the root cause of all this they are the badies

fickle sluice
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I would link it, but I can't seem to find the option to search for a thread in the mobile app

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Found it

vague frigate
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Is the “red shirt gang” a thing in the lore or is it just a community thing?

real cedar
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just a community thing

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Red Shirt the hunter acts alone, but he was inspired in part by the people who before skins were a thing would play Tier 1-2 hunters and be loud rather than the typical sneaky Tier 3 camo'd hunters

frail summit
real cedar
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👀 I was hoping the teasing was correct! We're getting a military themed event this summer

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The motto is Virescit Vulnere Virtus, meaning 'Courage grows strong at a wound' or 'Virtue flourishes with misfortune'. It's the same phrase Dire Wolf has on his hand.

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The 26th Regiment is a good touch too, the standing US Army only had 25 infantry regiments at the time (the real 26th was created in 1901) so this could be considered a regiment lost to time, a shadow regiment, or another example of alt-history.

keen mirage
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Hmmm

quaint pawn
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I hope it turns into a bigger storyline and isn't just another one-event-gimmick

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I mean, an entire army regiment could def have some bigger impact, right?

real cedar
spiral mica
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It was cool of them to tease this on Memorial Day.

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I also didn't know dire wolf had that phrase tattooed on his hand. Does that imply he has a background with the military, or is it just a coincidence that he uses the same phrase?

worldly stone
gilded umbra
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I don’t recognize that location.

loud quartz
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but also could be maw battery

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down the docks

gilded umbra
gilded umbra
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That trailer is still so awesome.

pulsar hill
gilded umbra
sinful bloom
orchid tangle
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I've said plenty of times a military themed event is my dream but I never saw it happening, i was excited enough for the scouts and took that as my gift, but I guess I get even more so happy

worldly stone
pulsar hill
worldly stone
real cedar
# spiral mica I also didn't know dire wolf had that phrase tattooed on his hand. Does that imp...

If there's a connection, it's more that they're developing the military to connect with dire wolf than the other way around. The wolf hunting symbol on the regiment's flag is two similarities which is prob too much coincidence.
Irl, the motto only connects to scottish clans and military, no clear US military so I'm definitely thinking they took it from Dire Wolf to expand the world using a loose thread from an old hunter

gilded umbra
frail summit
naive yarrow
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So, as i see, Pale Judge is a good guy in Hunt?

orchid tangle
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the better of two evils at best for his story

spiral mica
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Not sure if I'd call him a "good" guy, but he seems like a valuable friend to have provided you're on his side.

upbeat kayak
stuck folio
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Nah this is gonna be fucking sick of they pull
Off the military thing right

fickle sluice
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There's not really such a thing as a "good guy" in Hunt. Most people are a mix of ruthless, greedy, power hungry and or mad. There's not really 'hero' material

granite shard
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closest thing is my son

noble scarab
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Our boy kev. He’d be a good candidate for an updated legacy skin

granite shard
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dog my credit card is coming OUT when that shit drops

gilded umbra
strange bane
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Kevin Linus! Yeehaw

split badger
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Thinking about this historically you gotta imagine a lot of the hunters in the bayou are ex-confederate soldiers trying to make some money after they lost everything in the war

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The brutal reality of war is the losing side often inherits ashes

real cedar
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The ones still spry enough in their 40s/50s perhaps, but we'll likely never see them in game

split badger
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Yeah

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Either way being a monster hunter in the bayou still a far better deal than mass poaching buffalo lmao

granite shard
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children of former confederate soldiers maybe, but civil war vets would be in their early 50s on the younger side of things, with most probs being in their 60s as of 1895

split badger
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Yeah

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Well there was some guys that fought as young as like 16 in the war

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Mostly in the militias

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Believe authors like Mark Twain spoke about it

split badger
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Some stagecoach or train robber

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I guarantee you figures like Teddy Roosevelt would absolutely LOVE their trip to the bayou lmao

granite shard
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I guess my point mostly is that while yeah the game takes place in the south in the 1800s, there's a pretty large gap in time between the civil war and hunt's stuff where vets of the civil war are largely just too old to make up the bulk of the hunters

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in the hunter roster, the first character to be that sort of explicit civil war representation was the daughter of a woman who was involved in stuff in the war (and then in terms of monsters, scrapbeak came from a civil war vet who had an adult son)

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the effects of the civil war and reconstruction likely had an influence on people who ended in some bad situations due to it, but by the mid-late 1890s, civil war vets likely don't make up a significant portion of the people involved in the hunt

split badger
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Yeah fair enough

gilded umbra
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Salute to Sgt Bridgewater 🫡

spiral mica
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If Bridgewater doesn't play a major narrative role in any upcoming event or story challenge I'm going to be disappointed.

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I don't want a repeat of Mountain man and scorched earth.

stuck folio
#

Bloodborne crossover🥺

granite shard
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only if we get micolash as a hunter

zenith perch
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Eileen the Crow

stuck folio
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DONT SPEAK HIS NAME

stuck folio
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100%

granite shard
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micolash is incredibly funny I love that guy

stuck folio
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Main yharnam hunter set as well

stuck folio
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With poison knives

granite shard
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if you stay close he doesn't do stars

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just figure out his herding pattern and stay close to him and wake that man up

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ezpz

stuck folio
granite shard
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he was the base game boss I was looking forward to the most he's so silly

stuck folio
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Amelia gotta be my fav base game

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Limb breaks are 10/10 satisfaction

granite shard
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amelia's pretty good

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there's a group that makes models for 3d printing that focuses on soulsborne stuff I sub to, their june model is vicar amelia and I'm looking forward to that release

stuck folio
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I think the lores could definitely tie in together if they did some work with it

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And they both have hunters

granite shard
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lol

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They also have a spider with a human head

strange bane
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A hunter must hunt

stuck folio
stuck folio
granite shard
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I’d honestly be fine w collabs in hunt if they were like little AUs

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“This isn’t in the main canon, but it X was in the bayou, this is what it would look like”

granite shard
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As opposed to how it works now where post Malone has interacted with many important lore characters

stuck folio
spiral mica
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You can pair bomblance with hunters like Skinflint and Infected and pretend you're Gehrman.

upbeat kayak
misty hemlock
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God I love Morrigan and Midian so much

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They're so gross and nasty and I love them

hexed palm
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Is there a lore reason the Royal Phantom’s prosthetic is on the opposite arm of the normal Phantom’s? I couldn’t find anything, am I missing something?

upbeat kiln
drowsy copper
stuck folio
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Turncoat as well imo

stuck folio
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Especially the whole military thing is gonna be sick

gilded umbra
#

The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions ♨️

granite shard
#

that trailer's great

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not super thrilled abt it looking like they're adding a full auto thing :/

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any clue what that last bit could be teasing?

gilded umbra
granite shard
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for reference

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also the whole trailer lol

sinful bloom
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or the valve has something to do with it

gilded umbra
granite shard
#

could be cool, for the valve maybe it'll have something to do w gas stuff? since we had so much fire this past event

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could be a way to set a wall of fire or something

real dove
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Add this here too

granite shard
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god I was already not thrilled about the ned kelly skin

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this is even worse with him just literally being ned kelly lol

sinful bloom
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so me getting to p100 was a waste PlsNO Mood

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givin john away in a story Mood

real dove
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Doubt

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Maybe a diff version of him

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Younger john

sinful bloom
# real dove Younger john

i shall wait and see alpa but i am curious to know the lore behind the endin scene mainly what the H on the machine is about.

real dove
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Same

granite shard
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helicopter, obviously

real dove
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Do we assume Ned kelly in the hunt universe won his fight against the law then

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Or has he not yet had his death fight

sinful bloom
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cause we at least know that someone had betray the group since no can get that close with bein an enemy but another thing is whats assassin doing in a a cage in the base and the remark from gas mask now everyone is fed

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OH LORD OF LORE BESTOW US THOU WISDOM

real cedar
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@coarse lion Literal Ned Kelly is coming to the bayou, Smalls may dislike it but I know the #1 Kellyhead is gonna appreciate it 💪

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I like that the Devil's Trail got paved, great event name

sinful bloom
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i am enjoyin what crytek has been puttin out recently even if the lores not much its better then the card trilogy

pearl abyss
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so I said this in main, but I feel like i got a point. hunter have been shown to make their own factions ever since the AHA seems to gone crazed. we got lawman keeping order, cults, bandits. hell the pacts are basically groups like the smugglers

real cedar
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The military might become its own faction, though the trailer makes it seem like they went in high and mighty, got humbled, and whoever survives and sticks around might just become as ruthless as the other hunters, or maybe become part of the Lawful pact.
I hope they put some good lore to this, the military coming in feels like a great point to really kickstart the narrative again and they've been teasing bigger ideas like Ironshod Bandit's story challenge talking about maybe new leadership is in order.

pearl abyss
terse plaza
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Surprised they didn't fudge Kelly's name a bit, but I ain't complaining.

pearl abyss
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from the book I meam

granite shard
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they should have

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like I don't love the annie oakley thing but at least they took her and then made a character as opposed to just literally ned kelly

terse plaza
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100% a fan of lookalikes like Carter.

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Iconic, if you will.

real cedar
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As usual, here's the skins hinted at:

  • Officer skin (likely skin set)
  • Cavalry Saber skin
  • Yet another Uppercut? Conversion? (not skin set, Ned Kelly DLC)
  • Uppercut Precision skin? Might be weird lighting on a regular, or it could be a skin set version of Intrinsic Sin?
fickle sluice
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I like that they gave Whitlaw some actual saber fencing moves

terse plaza
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As befits an officer, rather outclassed his opponent. Dude was not keeping up with the horror montage but a Hunter swinging a sword is something he's trained for.

fickle sluice
terse plaza
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I dug that the hunter was more clearly using the basic move set, so to speak. Whitlaw was flexing with that footwork.

fickle sluice
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It's one of the few trailers that had me go 'Damn.' aloud.

terse plaza
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Scorched Earth was a glitch fiesta, but I haven't forgiven them for not giving Skull Taker his due montage of clowning on low tier hunters for his dlc promo.

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I wanted to see a poor sod hit a bear trap and get sniped.

gilded umbra
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RIP Leo Nunez 🪦

real cedar
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I didn't notice the gasmask guy's name at this starting blurb:

Two military scouts have vanished in Louisiana and Colorado. Concerned, Commander Whitlaw attempts to launch a rescue mission, but his request is declined by the military. Defiant, he forms the rogue 26th Regiment. Backed by a mysterious figure known as the Desolation's Delegate, The 26th Regiment marches into the Incursion Zone confident in their training and firepower.

Desolation's Delegate is a very promising name for lore HatEyes

terse plaza
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I rather suspect it could be a rerelease of the Statesman?

spiral mica
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Dang they already dropped the new event trailer while the current one is still going on?

terse plaza
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I perhaps am misreading it as the uh financial backer.

spiral mica
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Also, why is Ned Kelly even here?

terse plaza
spiral mica
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Another example of historic fiction I guess, but I'll take it over something like Ghostface or Post Malone.

terse plaza
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I feel like they might've dropped the ball by not inuniversing a similar but distinct (tm) ironclad. Maybe they thought he was a little obscure for the normies without a real name to search?

thick sierra
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ned kelly is aussie highschool history

real cedar
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The blogpost description makes it seem like people are supposed to have an inkling that he's a big deal.
He's basically the one big cowboy legend of Australia

thick sierra
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primary school even

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hes massive here

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I can go see his armour in person at the musuem of melb

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This is like having bonnie and clyde or something

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ned kelly also somewhat of a national bogan hero

real cedar
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Oh shit 😂 how did I not notice til now

noble scarab
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Buddies were getting their ass handed to them in the trailer

real cedar
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The Foxhound arrives with a full set of specialized Legendary Skins, working to harness the power and nightmares of Mother Nature.
Is there any chance that this is very loosely Metal Gear related? Foxhound is a thing in that series right?

noble scarab
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It’d be nice if all the former military hunters would get a shout out or a mention, something. Let them teach the new guys how the bayou works

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We needed a shot of an army guy stabbing an immolator too

terse plaza
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Oh nooo...

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I dunno how big Kelly is outside his home turf, I guess. Niche knowledge out here, but... reckon between a Hardin and a Bill Cody.

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Uncontested as THE aussie outlaw.

strange bane
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That Trailer is phenomenal, cinematic as all get out

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Interested and excited to see all the new lore

upbeat kayak
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Idk tho

real cedar
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It's possible that the Delegate is a lore-only character as well, to show up in a following event like Whitlaw did

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If so, then we don't have the name of one of the two subordinates

granite shard
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the return of chary, obviously

unique frost
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the imgur gallery of all my old translations by manually ciphering the Dev's voynich Script many months ago

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some old translations

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The circular text reads as such : Darker days are to come.

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The letters translate into AHA
American Hunter's Association. Those three letters might be their symbol or they just like abbreviating their Associations name in Voynich Script.

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The blurring letters each have a certain time frame in which they blur out

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I checked the way each letter disappears with the timing
It's togetHer salvAtion damnAtion dIe aloNe
TOGETHER SALVATION
Damnation Die Alone...

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Now for the text hidden within the websites code in correlation to each picture

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The infection takes hold. It takes a human host and from there the darkness spreads. Here it appears to be the form of a woman, something I can’t see is emerging from the body.

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I was bored during those days trying to get a good copy of the images from the preview photos so I though of grabbing the coding link for it

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Found text hidden in the code as such.

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@mellow jetty I require your assistance.

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Those old preview photos you found before.

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Where are they...

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new bones to sort...

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Gonna need my pc at home to translate this bugger cuz my cheat sheet is there.

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Although I hope someone translates it before me so I don't have to do all the work.

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I misplaced all the haitian creole translations in the old discord. I'll look for them later.

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Actually...

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so as to not spoil the surprise for Deso, DADDYCOOL, and Mister Bri Bri. I'll remove the first picture I posted, revealing the language used.

queen sparrow
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cool. thanks karen

unique frost
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Lots more of my old work to compile and a puzzle I can;t find the time to finish. XD

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Don't thank me just yet. I have yet to finish everything

queen sparrow
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I am thanking you for what you are doing so far, its awesome of you to help out

unique frost
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HUGS Glad I could help

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Here is the desk photo used in the coding.

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The video used in the coding as a preview footage banner.

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I'll post the close up images I had of the old monsters.

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and make some new close up footage for the spider and other beasties shown in the steam trailer.

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I can finally get a better look at the Speedy Spooder Spoop.

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I forget where this was but here : VIRESCIT VULNERE VIRTUS
Courage becomes greater through a wound!

unique frost
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The text is Voynich Script.

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I had to manually Cipher each letter, because the text the preview use has a random cipher, sometimes -4 or +5 in terms of alphabetical movement.

lusty veldt
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Thanks Karen, I’d started making my own but this helps immensely. Gonna take another look at puzzle 3 again tonight

unique frost
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You're very welcome.

old kite
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Mornin fellow puzzle solvers

lethal finch
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This is hella awesome. Definitely sets us all up. You mentioned wanting something translated, Karen?

unique frost
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No no, not something I need translated.

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Rather I'd love it if one of you did it before me.

lethal finch
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Assuming that it’s the image of the paper from the desk... any tips on understanding Voynich?

wispy otter
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What's up people? I see we got a channel made @lethal finch

lethal finch
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Sah dude. Karen had a bunch of stuff from a previous Discord that they dropped in for us. Check that out above. Puts us all hella deep

wispy otter
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Ahah nice. I'll dig in.

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Wow. That's amazing work @unique frost

lethal finch
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Mentioned something that they hoped someone might translate if you can start on that. Confused the hell out of me

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It’s using the Voynich I believe

unique frost
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Yes! you did it! ❤

lethal finch
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How does one simply translate though? It came out to random letters. I’d imagine one might go up so many letters following

hushed zinc
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excellent job @unique frost

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are you related to crytek or just a lore fan?

lusty veldt
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@lethal finch part of the fun is figuring it out for yourself! Googling substitution ciphers is likely a good start

unique frost
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I wish I was related to Crytek.

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I am just a lore fan though~! ❤

hushed zinc
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@unique frost be sure to send my some lore things if your time is stressed

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will be more the glad to decipher

unique frost
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I'll try when I get home.

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All the cheat sheets and translation compilations are there. at college atm. XD

hushed zinc
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xD

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enjoy

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i remember the giant lore book i had regarding crysis

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there were so much hidden lore in that game

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god i loved it

unique frost
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❤ XD

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@lusty veldt Nein

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Google translate does not have voynich as a registered language

lethal finch
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Hey hey, anything new translated or still on the page on the hunter’s desk?

inland anvil
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So what do you guys think is happening outside the lousiana swamps? Like is the corruption spreading there as well, do they have isolated that whole swamp area etc

hollow flame
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I think just Louisiana is shitty

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Much like in real life

rough night
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HAH

hollow flame
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The devs just visited LA and said "hey, I could make a game out of this"

rough night
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Resident Evil 7 also has Louisiana as location

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And I bet a lot of other zombie/disease like games have Louisiana as their location

hushed zinc
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wtf is going with louisiana

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lol

rough night
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Video games set in Louisiana according to Wikipedia:

Alone in the Dark (1992 video game)
The House of the Dead: Overkill
Nancy Drew: Legend of the Crystal Skull
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 14
Resident Evil 7: Biohazard
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist

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Well, if Tiger Woods is set in Louisiana, then that really must be a dark place

queen sparrow
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wow, thats one hell of a list.

tropic dawn
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Yep

queen sparrow
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sounds like my kind of place to visit 😛

tropic dawn
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lol

low ice
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we are heavily influenced by Tiger Woods

tropic dawn
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@queen sparrow why XD

queen sparrow
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well I like horror stuff, and seeing as how so much is set there, maybe...just maybe I will get lucky and we'll have a zombie outbreak while I am there 😛

tropic dawn
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I like horror games but I hate horror ironically.

queen sparrow
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so not into zombie movies or anything like that?

tropic dawn
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nah

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Games

hushed zinc
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give me a sniper rifle and a tower

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and im good for a zmobie outbreak

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and a bottle to take a leak

tropic dawn
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@hushed zinc and limited ammo HAHAHA

rough night
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@low ice I thought I saw some hints of it in the E3 video

hushed zinc
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@tropic dawn you underestimate my powerrrr

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what if im on an ammo tower ;P

low ice
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Toger Woods right?

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yeah

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it's in the video

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if you look carefully

tropic dawn
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@hushed zinc but still limited ammunition.

low ice
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this is about golf

tropic dawn
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Yes

low ice
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specifically the Golf War

hushed zinc
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golf is the new frontier

rough night
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I once tried a Golf lesson. Couldn't get past the banishing demons part of it. Way too much pressure

tropic dawn
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@low ice fail to hit the golf ball every swing.

queen sparrow
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@rough night HAHAHAHA

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I have no idea why I find that so funny

low ice
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I know right?

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the banishing is the most difficult part of golf

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let me try to find a song about Golf

rough night
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Look at Tiger Woods mate, he tried banishing a Swedish demon for years

tropic dawn
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@low ice just take the golf club and throw it done ^^

low ice
tropic dawn
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@low ice LOL

low ice
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ok so

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since you don't know me

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yet

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I have to say

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some of the things I say or do might be misleading

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or inaccurate

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for instance

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when I say "Here... let me exclusively announce a new monster for HUNT!!!!"

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know that it's not to be taken seriously

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ok?

queen sparrow
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you and your pirate metal 😉

low ice
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Arrrrrr!!!

queen sparrow
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careful or I will run over to your desk and shout my barbosa impression at you

low ice
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hahahaah

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shiver me timbers!!!

queen sparrow
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hahaha

hushed zinc
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just answer me this

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are you guys legit sitting couple of desks apart

low ice
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hahaha

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quite the opposite

queen sparrow
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well, its a bit further than that. I would need to walk about 30 seconds to get to Fasih

hushed zinc
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for the love of god take a picture of the studio

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im dying to see how it looks like

low ice
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which part? it's a GIAAAAANT studio

queen sparrow
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^

low ice
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but multiple dogs

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so it's not safe

queen sparrow
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yes! we have doggo's

hushed zinc
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just do a picture of your area

queen sparrow
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they are AWESOME

hushed zinc
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im dying to see how a crytek studio looks like

mellow jetty
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Very nice

queen sparrow
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hmm, we'll see

mellow jetty
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Take a sneaky picture of Fasih and doggo's

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Its friday

low ice
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hmmmm

queen sparrow
hushed zinc
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SO CUTE

low ice
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hahaha

queen sparrow
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if you click ont he link you will see 3 other photos

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also this would prob be better in off topic lol

low ice
mellow jetty
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I saw those, new pictures!

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Fresh one! I demand

low ice
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and this is Narrative Design corner

hushed zinc
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is that your desk fasih?

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niceeee

mellow jetty
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Oke, that looks decent 😄

rough night
hushed zinc
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@rough night ITS TIME TO STOP

inland anvil
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it is beautiful

rough night
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I can do much better though, but time is not on my side

low ice
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I do like Calamari though

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it's... delicious

rough night
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oh my

rotund ferry
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Is there not a puzzle channel on this server??

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@mellow jetty

mellow jetty
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Nop

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You'll have to ask @elfin laurel to make one after she returns from Twitchcon cuz Idont have power to do it.

rotund ferry
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It's all good! I was trying to find where @unique frost might be lurking haha.

unique frost
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lol

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had to mute the channel while studying yesterday

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so many pings

tropic dawn
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lol

hushed zinc
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@unique frost im gonna try to brightup the background picks from fan art

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if ill see anything will msg you

unique frost
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Oh~! Thank you Darling. I'm glad you trust me with these things. XD

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I don't think what I did is super impressive though. XD I jsut tried my best because a certain old community manager challenged me.

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@mellow jetty Where has Volty gone I wonder...

hushed zinc
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haha lol

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you got any idea what s the deal with the butterfly?

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in the last pic maq sent?

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@low ice is it lore related or just some random animel?

low ice
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😃

mortal cradle
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Looks like a cicada

low ice
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we don't have random animals

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it is VERY lore related

hushed zinc
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ok so it has a meaning

mortal cradle
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Or locust like

hushed zinc
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ONWORDS TO THE LORE

low ice
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good catch

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it was one of the more obscure things we hid in plain sight

hushed zinc
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what will a cicada have to do with a monster?

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hmmm

thorn zephyr
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->

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<-<

low ice
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onwards lore people !!! 😄

hushed zinc
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im intrigued >.>

low ice
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that's the intention

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😃

hushed zinc
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@unique frost were there any mentions of cicadas or locust of any sort in the pictures you deciphered?

thorn zephyr
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"Cicadas have been featured in literature since the time of Homer's Iliad, and as motifs in art from the Chinese Shang dynasty. They have been used in myths and folklore to represent carefree living and immortality."

hushed zinc
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@thorn zephyr damm son

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thats interesting

mortal cradle
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There is a monster like thing that was human and body is now a hive

hushed zinc
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this is heading in a direction im very interested

thorn zephyr
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moar copy paste

mortal cradle
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Sooooo it probably spews those cicadas

thorn zephyr
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ewww

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but wait

mortal cradle
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Makes me think of momma from re7

thorn zephyr
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"Cicadas feed on sap; they do not bite or sting in a true sense, but may occasionally mistake a person's arm for a plant limb and attempt to feed."

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Not sure its the basis of a creepy hive monster 😄

mortal cradle
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These cicadas are the spawns of satan

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Lol

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Idk

thorn zephyr
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obvs

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"Cicadas are featured in the well-known protest song "Como La Cigarra" ("Like the Cicada") written by the Argentinian poet and composer, María Elena Walsh. In the song, the cicada is a symbol of survival and defiance against death. "

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cicadas are p deep, never knew until now

mortal cradle
hushed zinc
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The cicada is an ancient polyvalent symbol: resounding themes are resurrection, immortality, spiritual realization and spiritual ecstasy. For the ancient Greeks and Romans they sang in intoxicated ecstasy and were sacred to Apollo and cognate with the dionysiac bacchae and maenad.

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im getting a vibe that the monsters were humen based

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like somtihng happend

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and cicadas were used to transfer it or atleasthad a part in it?

thorn zephyr
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spooky o.o

mortal cradle
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Could be

thorn zephyr
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Oh i hope not, cicadas are chill lil bugs

mortal cradle
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O hell no

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They are loud red fucking eyes they gotta die

thorn zephyr
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nuh uh

hushed zinc
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i bet @low ice i just sitting and reading the comments and laughing his ass on how far out we are

thorn zephyr
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I know

hushed zinc
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@mortal cradle amen brother

thorn zephyr
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how much you wanna bet

low ice
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not laughing

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grinning

thorn zephyr
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It was sarcasm

mortal cradle
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Lol

thorn zephyr
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And cicadas dont mean shit

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😄

hushed zinc
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well atleast we know they have a meaning

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they wouldnt make a giant ass poster

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for no reason

low ice
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things without meaning are probably accidental

thorn zephyr
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I hope xd

low ice
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but there IS a consistent setting and world story

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and we're trying to make sure nothing's random

thorn zephyr
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Thats great

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I love me some lore

hushed zinc
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absoulutly

mortal cradle
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I can already feel the immersion soaking in

hushed zinc
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im more interested in whats the main idea here because if we find patient 0 or the core of the matter

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we can expand alot from there

mortal cradle
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Probably is no end game. We are part of a secret society doing gods work

hushed zinc
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ive been thinking about it

mortal cradle
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Bag 1 bad bitch another takes its place

hushed zinc
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if were casting things to hell

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whats the deal with heaven?

thorn zephyr
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"The specimen is in an extremely detiorated condition. The skin seems to have developed an unusual layer of chitonic crust making it exceedingly difficult to go ahead with a proper incision. A different form of the same creature perhaps?"

hushed zinc
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mutation?

thorn zephyr
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s p o o k

hushed zinc
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He knew he would die that night. He's in hell now.

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if you get bitten

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you die?

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maybe?

mortal cradle
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Hmmm

thorn zephyr
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ooh

hushed zinc
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the last sentence in realy weird

mortal cradle
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Or have to find item during hunt to cure ut?

hushed zinc
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Hes in hell now

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like he knew

thorn zephyr
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i like the desk, interesting o:

hushed zinc
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maybe if you get killed by a creature