lore-discussion

[manic lichen]

Also I cannot find any photo proof of this btw.
Only thing I can find is this.

[granite shard]

the organic shapes of the leaves and stuff I could see help breaking up the inorganic straight lines and disguise a human head, and having the overgrown netting would allow for areas where you could potentially start sniping from behind while being somewhat hidden (while maybe others still were reinforced w metal as an area for harder cover)

[real cedar]

There's probably no visual records of it, just textual

[manic lichen]

Well, paintings/drawings should be around

[real cedar]

There's so much shit out there that nobody bothered drawing a picture of, or preserving if there were few images made. Scottish hunters trading hunting tips in person and no artist thinking it's cool enough to keep an image of for decades is pretty likely

[tall lava]

Idk to me it just looks like hunters piling random shit on a tower and it looking just fine as something that belongs

Not like they added digital camo to it or something

Just random nets and stuff

[real cedar]

The random nets do seem a bit odd

[manic lichen]

Yeah, but even the first recorded war (the second Boer War) have plenty of pictures taken, still can't find any.

Tho did find this

[real cedar]

You wouldn't see those hung around a building without the intention to climb them or hang stuff off them (or just store them for fishermen) especially the way they're draped on the roof and the sandbags

So I can see how that might just push it over the line for some people

[manic lichen]

I mean, even with me disliking the concept, I assume it is meant to weave the brances into them for the camouflage.

[hallow void]

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[orchid tangle]

is it not the one next to alice farm and healing waters? I'd have to see how close the water is but I thought it was just another version of that tower

[wraith lance]

I always find these pictures of horses being lifted off of ships so cute for some reason lol

[real cedar]

Nope, the only watchtower that isn't on a hill or incline of some kind is the one outside Weeping Stone Mill. There's much more reeds between the water and the tower at Healing Waters as well.

[orchid tangle]

I see

I'm also remembering now there's a tree immediately on the bank of the water that'd be present in that screenshot

because I used it like a week ago to kill an entire trio that lacked object permanence on me

[gilded umbra]

This reminds me of Metal Gear Solid: The Phantom Pain when you send your horse back to the base. 🐎

[spiral mica]

It reminds me of that one gif used in memes where a helicopter airlifts the horse away

https://tenor.com/view/horse-fly-gif-19308575

[digital sparrow]

It is, because it's not universal morse code, there are small pauses
Used this sheet btw

[real cedar]

I can only hear the pause on the final R half the time, what a trash system

[digital sparrow]

Ahahah download the video and put it in slow motion you should hear it clearly

[real dove]

Yeah, same. At 1.5 speed it's really clear

[mint wind]

1.5 is faster :>

[small ether]

So what's the consensus on the morse code? Did we land on FIRE BREATHER?

[granite shard]

it's what makes the most sense

[hoary jungle]

Yeah. It’s the only one that makes sense, especially given the FI RE BR EA TH we had gotten from clues already. It’s just another clue giving two more letters

[small ether]

I bet today we get something more solid

hopefully fire breathing hell hounds

[granite shard]

please god no

[hoary jungle]

And when you kill the last one in a pack, it explodes and gives you a Max Ammo!

[granite shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eal8DtBDiFs

[small ether]

oh hell yeah

[granite shard]

damn that inoculation fucked them up lol

[small ether]

ngl that chef looks a little goofy

[granite shard]

yeah not huge on the chef

other two are cool tho

[small ether]

yeah I love the other two!

[granite shard]

wish there'd be an actual narrative alongside this

bc that's a great concept

[real cedar]

A new story
no story tho

[granite shard]

how it's felt for the past year and a half with events

[pearl abyss]

I miss the lore honestly. I love it

[real cedar]

Also new timeline shift

This sets Scorched Earth back before June

[tranquil tusk]

Yeah. I enjoyed unlocking the story on the event page in game. I never follow the lore anymore.

[real cedar]

Or in June, considering Shade appears in the trailer

[granite shard]

I miss the lore so much

is this an existing guy?

[pearl abyss]

kinda hard to without the pages. like what are we fighting for? are we just still crazed hunters fighting for 3.50?

[real dove]

is it shade?

[real cedar]

Shade doesn't have gloves

[granite shard]

I don't recognize these gloves so new guy right?

also another new guy

[pearl abyss]

is it bad i kinda want have more lore with the ronin? he just been my special dude since i first got into Hunt lol

[granite shard]

oh also stuff on the firebreather

[real cedar]

Vandal Bullseye skin for the first time since 2021

[pearl abyss]

oh great, even worse then the base guys who burn me alive lol

[granite shard]

lmao yup

[small ether]

doesn't sound all that different than immolators

[granite shard]

the shooting fire from a distance is the distinction there

[pearl abyss]

I think these ones will be unable to swing on you if I saw the video right. these ones shooting

[real cedar]

And if these guys are grunt variants then they're slower and weaker than immos

[small ether]

immo-lite

[pearl abyss]

likely biggest issue will be them shooting you with flames

[granite shard]

The blurb specifies bursting into flames w slash melee damage but not shooting

[real cedar]

or blunt

[granite shard]

Oh yeah I’m just thinking different from immos

[pearl abyss]

ah my bad. looked like it was shooting my bad

[granite shard]

No worries

[small ether]

I thought for sure they'd reveal the inferno wild card with this event

Maybe they will add that partway through the event? like how the bileweavers returned halfway through the last event

[loud quartz]

in the last seconds of the trailer you can hear the hellborn in the bayou maps.
dennis said in an interview that it would fit if the hellborn is coming to the other maps with the inferno. so we get inferno. maybe mid event or at the start

[real cedar]

Outside of the potential implications of putting a date on the trailer and showing Shade, this guy seems like the most interesting thing in the trailer. For now I'm calling him The General. I don't think he'll show up in the event, but they've clearly got plans for him since they made a character model and everything. Maybe he's a big player in the next arc/trilogy?

Oh derp

It's TO Lt. Col Whitlaw, not from

So that's Whitlaw

[gilded umbra]

The Devil is in the details. 😈

[real cedar]

Not too many skins revealed, but still some slightly hidden ones like the new chain pistol. Seems like Levinson's style is very welder-ish, but with household items rather than raw metal.

[loud quartz]

also new big knife ig

[real cedar]

That's just the base knife with some grime on it

[loud quartz]

well

[granite shard]

That throwing axe lmfao

[real cedar]

Just throw the whole cutlery drawer at em

[zenith perch]

Trialer looks so cool

Love the two new main hunters

[tranquil tusk]

They keep showing big knives in the trailers (Spider lady had a big knife), but not giving us a new big knife skin.

Makes me sad because i love the big knife. It's like a pocket machete.

[granite shard]

it's nice to see them take a step back from the godawful plains warden last year and reference actual people with the Anishinaabe nations instead of just. johnny depp tonto

he was genuinely one of the worst hunters they've ever released. from the lore to the design, awful

[loud quartz]

the skins really look nice in the trailer, agree. especially some nice hunters!

[craggy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-ryan-reynolds-the-right-idea-guy-point-gif-4474048

[tranquil tusk]

He was truly ridiculous. Which is why I like him. They just took him too seriously. Should have made him a mystical cursed warrior or something.

I'm still waiting to see if they ever roll the dice on making a skinwalker hunter skin.

[granite shard]

they didn't take him seriously enough lol he's a walking stereotype

like it's actually insane how they went from doing research and working with actual indigenous nations in the louisiana area to him

[tranquil tusk]

There's a lot of walking stereotypes in the game. And there are some well researched hunters in the game that were taken seriously. It's a mix of serious and silly.

Sometimes the mix works. Sometimes it doesn't. Guess it just depends on the player.

[granite shard]

when it's negative stereotypes that perpetuate harmful myths about groups, that's a problem. his entire lore is about how he's the last of his people which is a trope in media many indigenous people have talked about doing actual harm to them bc it paints indigenous cultures as things of the past

hunt had made a big deal about how they wanted to treat indigenous americans with respect back during the light the shadows leadup so the plains warden was just. not great

[tranquil tusk]

Negative stereotypes about groups? Like this guy?

[real cedar]

By their Chevrons, Red Raven is a sergeant and One Who Flies is a corporal. Interestingly, the yellow means they're with the cavalry rather than the red-outlined chevrons of the Indian scouts & soldiers.

[granite shard]

you mean the fact that he's potrayed as nothing but a big dumb fat man? yeah it sucks and they had briefly changed his descriptoin to not be like that, and then reverted it to his original which sucked

[real cedar]

Really it seems like the mistake was in talking big about the research and respect when they clearly weren't planning on continuing that with every skin they make

If they hadn't said that, then it would just be 'yea they did good here and sucked here'

[granite shard]

yeah

like ultimately that's the biggest problem point there, they set a standard of research and respect that they did not keep up with

[real cedar]

Rather, I think they inflated themselves for the sake of the one event. A standard would require at least a bit of consistent application

[granite shard]

but at the same time too, for non-american cultures they tend to also do a bit of research into the hunters and base them off of specific cultural things and aspects

like I was showing hayali to a turkish friend of mine when we were speculating abt emre overwatch's voice actor being the guy who voices hayali (and it is the same guy!) and he was THRILLED to see all of the small details there that he didn't think non-turkish people would add

like hunt generally has done a really strong job of representing different cultures and stuff so those misses really stand out in a negative way

[tranquil tusk]

I disagree. I know some self-identifying "rednecks" who absolutely love that skin because of the silly stereotype.

Sometimes it's just fun to have fun with something silly.

But, I will concede that there are groups that are touchy about their heritage being used in certain ways, and rightfully so.

[granite shard]

like plains warden is just kinda indicative of the problem that's popped up with more recent hunt stuff where it's felt like there's been less thought put into the world and stuff of the game, which is what happens when you gut a narrative team lmao

[tranquil tusk]

Every time I see an argument about cultural representation, I think about a story that a latino friend of mine told me:

I guess at one point, Warner Brothers was talking about removing Speedy Gonzalez cartoons because they felt they were culturally insensitive.

My friend told me that they decided to keep the character because they got massive negative feedback to the idea from the latino community because they loved Speedy.

Not saying that the story is an argument for or against other conversations about cultural representation. I just think it's interesting to think about.

[granite shard]

In this case, indigenous Americans have talked a lot about this sort of stereotype

[real cedar]

Activists or regular people?

[granite shard]

Both? I’ve seen activists talking about it but also just like normal people online

One of my friends is indigenous and has talked abt this stuff in the past and so I’ve just paid more attention to what indigenous people say abt stuff

Like the big thing is the lack of actual nation identity being a problem

[real cedar]

I put a lot more worth in what normal people like n' dislike after having some experiences with activists going in weird directions advocating for my own people so yeah if regulars dislike Plains Warden then it's more understandable

[granite shard]

My friend’s ojibwe so I’m actually curious to see what her thoughts on the new hunters are since the ojibwe are part of the anishinaabe umbrella, but her reaction to the plains warden was just a general euch lol

[tranquil tusk]

Lol. I also have an Ojibwe friend who I just asked about this. 😆

I sent him screenshots from the DLC page on steam. Waiting to hear back.

Luckily, he has played Hunt, so he understands the lore and vibe of the game.

If nothing else, it's an interesting conversation on how to mix cultural accuracy with a supernatural game that likes to lace a bit of humor into its horror.

[tranquil tusk]

Honestly though, I don't think an occasional ridiculous flub would be as big an issue if there were just more first nation skins for it to get lost in.

If there was a native gamer just coming into Hunt for the first time, their options for a native hunter skin are what? The Arcane Archeologist, Teche Wraith, and the Plains Warden?

Teche Wraith might be culturally accurate, i have no idea. But, the Arcane Archeologist is the only one wearing modern clothing, and the Plains Warden is the only one with any kind of hard to see coloration.

We just need more First Nation hunter skins that are always available so that a silly one will just be another option instead of one of the only options.

Which is why I really like the new ones coming in the new event. I'm guessing they will only be available in the battlepass. But, I'm hoping they will be blood bond or free storyline.

[granite shard]

archeologist isn't indigenous, she's a white woman

[real cedar]

They'll be exclusive to the BP for a year but then become available for anyone to buy

[granite shard]

very welcome change

recolors are also now on the table of old mythic hunters too, so the tide of shadows hunters and light the shadows hunters could be recolored at some point

if they even continue to do recolors, they've been kinda quiet on it ever since we got the gator bois

forever sad I forgot to finish light the shadow back in the day and didn't get all of the skins

[tranquil tusk]

She always seemed like she was native but raised in white society, or mixed race, and wanted to reconnect with her heritage.

But, I guess "white lady who wants to find an academic niche" is also a plausible back story.

[granite shard]

oh reminds me that felis is mixed race indigenous actually

that was confirmed awhile back when she got a voice actress, she tweeted something abt it bc she's mixed race and was talking abt it being cool to voice a character like her

one of those things that feel like it was probably not part of the initial plan of her character and they just kinda went with it later on haha

cool seeing mixed race rep tho, I think that puts her and lonely howl as the only two to canonically be mixed race

[tranquil tusk]

I forgot all about Felis. She used to be a very popular pick back in the day. At least until we got more hunters that were hard to see.

Would be nice if there were more minority hunters whose personalities were more than just their culture.

Right now, it's mainly just white and black hunters that get real weird.

Kinda makes sense though, since they were probably the most common races found in towns of that era. 🤔

[strange bane]

That new trailer was incredible, absolute cinema

All the new Hunters look great and unique

[real cedar]

I love The Highwayman, more classical western hunters is great to see

[strange bane]

Personal favorite is the chain pistol toting fellow

Is that the Highwayman?

What a moniker

[real cedar]

I believe so. There's two of them, The Bandit and Highwayman. The latter describes "learned unforgotten secrets" and the guy in the video has a seeing eye on his hat so that makes me think it's him.

I was sure that they were done with the Turncoat Gang after giving him a full trio with Stormseer and Head Taker, it's pretty cool to see it grow even bigger so soon. They're like a crime pact now.

[spiral mica]

This event is setting up to be a good one. The narrative behind it sounds really intriguing, but it's a shame we won't have anything beyond that initial summary.

[granite shard]

yeah the blurb feels like it's just a summary of the trailer than anything

[orchid tangle]

why must they tease me so

they're like... mercenaries that wear union uniform as a trophy? I guess they could be proper union but they have a native flair going on and they chose a very interesting year timeline to mix those two groups

[real cedar]

They're freelance scouts to justify the flair but they're working for the military itself

[orchid tangle]

I mean I'll take it

[real cedar]

So it's official that non-Backer military leaders have some info on the Incursion

[orchid tangle]

I was never gonna get a soldier in an unaltered uniform that's just not the hunt way

[real cedar]

Though it only goes as high as a Lt. Col

[orchid tangle]

I mean if they know higher people definitely know

[real cedar]

Chances are he gets shut down by people who were already in the know and then heads into the incursion himself next event

[spiral mica]

Well, it does say they're former US military scouts and that they're gathering intelligence for their military employers. I think that could mean a couple of things, like maybe a group of backers also aligned with the US Government. I mean, it'd be difficult to believe that the US Government wasn't involved somehow.

[orchid tangle]

I wouldn't be surprised if high ranking military veterans became backers or something

there could also be a general sickles type deal where they're a rich politician that is just allowed to become an officer for their own gain

[granite shard]

could also see him showing up this event as a DLC hunter

[real cedar]

Despite the giant cast of legendary hunters, the incursions are surprisingly still meant to be a secret as far as the lore goes. Dunno how the backers keep a lid on it after the AHA collapsed but so far they did

[spiral mica]

The spoils of war do make people rich, and I could definitely see a US military/government affiliated backer also taking advantage of an otherwise unusual situation.

[orchid tangle]

I mean it's kinda impressive how much stuff stayed under the radar back in old years

like I could see it like people in that town next to mammons could know of the incursion (or some people that live there) but whenever they tell the story or whatever it sounds like craziness to the people who don't know/live there

[spiral mica]

Well, if the US Government was involved somehow I'd bet they'd want to keep it a secret too. It wouldn't surprise me if they've just been observing things from a distance and letting third parties like the backers take over operations so long as things remain tight lipped.

[orchid tangle]

tbh I wanted the army intervention because I was thinking like well the AHA is collapsed and now it's just a bunch of masked freaks running around killing each other in a monster land so old rich dudes can do occult experiments

[spiral mica]

Do we have a total count of every named character, hunter, and individual from the lore who is at the very least aware of the incursions and everything happening with the sculptor? I wouldn't think that number of people is beyond 200 or so maybe even less than that?

200 or so people compared to the total population of America in the late 19th century would still imply a very small amount of people are actually aware of the situations in Louisiana and Colorado.

[zenith perch]

I think Red Raven might be a new main for me

[strange bane]

Those two were designed incredibly well

[zenith perch]

We we also get a raven skull charm I might actually use charms again

-# I missed the charm from Tide of Corruption and I regret not getting it to this day

I also love the changes to game that are coming

Makes it feel like you're actually hunting

[orchid tangle]

okay I read the story that eases my confusion a bit
they're veterans that then went freelance

I was like why the fuck are mercenaries given official uniforms

[gilded umbra]

When I saw the trailer this morning I thought of the movie Windtalkers from 2002.

[real cedar]

The neck break on the table is also a classic, I'm trying to think of which action movie I remember it from specifically. Ballerina (2025) had a variation of it.

[orchid tangle]

have we seen all the new hunters? I only noticed four

[spiral mica]

So far I've only recognized 4 from the trailer.

Maybe a 5th, but I'm not sure

[orchid tangle]

there is a 5th I just don't know if he's in the trailer

maybe they learned not to showcase a dude like 2 months before he actually drops

[real cedar]

The Bandit is missing from the trailer, and Lt. Col Whitlaw has a character model but seemingly won't be appearing in this event

[loud quartz]

isnt bandit the cahin pistol guy?

[real cedar]

I suspect that's The Highwayman, but it could be. Either way, one of those two didn't show up

[orchid tangle]

really can't tell between the highway man and bandit

[loud quartz]

i mean we do see 5 different skins in the trailer

[orchid tangle]

mainly because that's the same fucking thing

[orchid tangle]

all I saw was the two scouts, chef, and coated dude

who is the 5th?

the col is probably not a skin

[real cedar]

Ye but the 5th is Whitlaw who definitely is not the bandit

[loud quartz]

the last guy at the table

[orchid tangle]

as much as I'd love him to be

or maybe he could be who knows

papi redneck was showcased in the same light and then showed up

[loud quartz]

aah

[real cedar]

He'll be a skin at some point cause they've never showcased a character model and then gone on to never utilize them in game

[loud quartz]

only when they use old outdated hunter models in the trailers

[orchid tangle]

wdym I don't have a copy pasted lulu labeled "bone mason: young"

[tranquil tusk]

I thought the old skin of the dude in the top hat and brown coat who speared the dude with a bayonet was the Bandit. Figured they were bringing back a tier 3 Hunter from the old days.

[orchid tangle]

I think it can go either way on bandit and highwayman because that's basically the same damn thing

I think it said one of them was more loyal to turncoat I'd probably bet on them since he's wearing his coat in the same fashion

I too put all my trust in a person literally named turncoat

[earnest jungle]

YOOOOO Are these guys Turncoat's old squadmates?

Like turncoat is a deserter from a mercenary/filibuster/military outfit and these guys are also pmc/military adjacent and this new monster was part of his gang

Also wonder if they have any connection to Alison: whose Winfield Ranger the Last Gust has a dream catcher on it which also has its origins among Anishinaabe before becoming a symbol of the Pan Indian Movement of the 60s and 70s.

The new trailer’s got me pumped and all my synapses are firing so I will be seeing connections and patterns that aren’t there

[vagrant pagoda]

did i understand the trailer right that these two are army scouts who were injected later and then went a bit mad?

have they gone mad? I'm not sure i interpreted the end of the trailer properly

[granite shard]

Yeah they went mad

The Reddit post has a summary of the trailer’s story

[loud quartz]

is that a thing that happens to all hunters, making everyone mad in the bayou, or is it just that one time in the trailer and special stuff cooked by the chef?

[vagrant pagoda]

exactly what i was going to ask

If it's a result of the injection, it could be why so many skins are so edge

[loud quartz]

and cain is just a normal guy living his dream in the bayou

[granite shard]

It’s specifically the cook’s inoculation

He seemed to cook up his own version of it

[vagrant pagoda]

clearly

[vagrant pagoda]

was the fool making his own version too?

[granite shard]

Wouldn’t be surprised, but I don’t believe it was said

[loud quartz]

would be cool if this could become a new gameplay thing in the future

[vagrant pagoda]

to be honest, i do forget about the injection

i'd love gameplay stuff but i have no idea what it could be

[fickle sluice]

I find it quite funny that the two scouts think going full Solo won't raise any suspicion. "Uh, everything's under control. Situation normal. ... We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?"

[fickle sluice]

I find the result interesting. Iirc the injection that Lynch improved protected the hunter from the corruption but did come at a cost over time. It seems the cook replicated the inoculation but in a way less refined way. Which is not surprising considering what Level Lynch was on

[rocky mango]

this is the first time i have seen the hunter initiation ritual, does this mean this vaccine is what is making the hunters crazy and sometimes nonverbal

[granite shard]

seems to be a unique case for these two stemming from the cook's fucked up version of the inoculation

[rocky mango]

well then whats up with cain, is he innoculated or is he just like that normally

and like, who tf gave Monroe the stim

theres gotta be like a group giving them to the crazies

[granite shard]

these people were not necessarily the most sane to begin with, so yeah he's just like that

[rocky mango]

too insane to be killed by a gun... damn

i do feel bad for monroe

maybe they add a dark tribute for him where hes just like a normal dude

give him a full head of hair

[fickle sluice]

At some point the AHA also did not give a fuck anymore. If you were mad and/or greedy enough to sign up to go hunt a monster for cash, they'd take you. I guess that's how people like Monroe got in. Some were surely lured in by the likes of Chary who wanted disposable tools. Others seem to be in for the consequence free murder

And when Lynch could teach Hardin, and the AHA themselves had enough RnD to solve the whole Meathead situation, it seems plausible to me that gangs of weirdos start fiddling around with the inoculation or get set up by the benefactors.

[noble scarab]

Monroe is more sane than we give him credit for I think

The one depiction of him and Cain as drooling savages from ToC aside

[vagrant pagoda]

Oh I like Monroe

Is he legit mental? I just thought he was every day mental

[rocky mango]

hes still wearing his straitjacket, not normal

[real cedar]

Yeah he's 100% mental but still surviving despite that. They don't explain what condition he has but generally the most important one would be trauma as he got vivisected as part of the Jackson Asylum experiments to turn people into slave-soldiers for the Hunt.

[vagrant pagoda]

It could be his comfort straight jacket

[vagrant pagoda]

Jesus

[orchid tangle]

tasked failed successfully it'd seem

[tired torrent]

Is the auto 4 realistic to exist?

[loud steeple]

It’s conceivable that someone could have cut down a browning auto 5 but it would not be an easy task to put a new cap on the magazine tube

[proper olive]

Got to ask is giggles alive and the circus members?

[spiral mica]

God, I hope not. All that talk of destroying the circus once and for all only for it to once again show up for a third time. Surely that isn't going to happen though, right?

[orchid tangle]

the event themes tend to be trilogies...

[analog pendant]

I remember those days too…

[proper olive]

I mean 3 cash registers was gold

[spiral mica]

Sometimes 2, but yeah, the one good positive thing about the circus events is how much loot they handed out to players.

[loud steeple]

I just want them to put the flame rifle into the scarce weapon box rotation

[real cedar]

They better not, the weapon boxes are already so rare, I don't want to get the chance to open one and find it's just a flame rifle.
Give it a secondary loot spot so there's a chance to pick up the lesser scarce weapons and a chance to pick up the good ones

[spiral mica]

Flame rifle is kind of mid, yeah.

At least when compared to the other scarce weapons which are incredibly strong in comparison.

It's more or less just a really great tool for killing monster AI and bosses. It's usefulness against players is moderate at best since it does burn bars pretty well, but most players aren't going to stand around and wait for all their bars to completely burn off.

[harsh plaza]

i feel that is great as a utility weapon in teams

allttho id rather use the hand crossbow

anyway

what is the sculptor really

all i know about it is that its the thing that make the monsters

[proper olive]

I just realized everyone wanted to destroy the circus even giggles did not know that

[real cedar]

It's some kind of eldritch cosmic horror from another dimension. It doesn't have a physical form as far as we know, but its sphere of influence is the boundaries of the incursion, which is spread by the corruption carried within monsters. Within the incursion, it can either twist and corrupt things (like how the Fire Breather got twisted as the guy was dying from fire), remake what it's already corrupted (bringing back monsters or boss targets), or just sit back and enjoy the stories that unfold. It seems to have a thing for stories and secrets - especially those of cruelty and pain - as the tales of the bayou become statues made by it in the Land of the Dead. It has a connection to insects, as most of the monsters it creates are associated with that.
It's a very, very old entity, at least if its herald the murmurstone is to be believed. The ancient romans in England utilized the corruption for their own ends back in their time.

[proper olive]

Hey rai I got to ask is it possible for the sculpter to control the circus now sense it disappeared and may be in the land of the dead

[real cedar]

I've got no clue 😂 the circus doesn't make much sense in the grand scheme of things. The source of its corruption may not actually be related to the sculptor at all, and the way it acts as a mobile incursion is unprecedented.

[proper olive]

Ah ok got to ask

[proper olive]

Also the land of the dead that’s where the sculpter live

[harsh plaza]

Interesting

[analog pendant]

Will never not Love the fire effects and explosions at night

[orchid tangle]

I just woke up so sorry if it's obviously someone else or has already been spoken of but is that the colonel in the little youtube short? I thought he was rhe only soldier who was given the gloves

[real cedar]

I didn't see any hunters with gloves in the short

[orchid tangle]

incredible
it was the very first thing I watched after waking up and all I registered was this dudes sleeves and bandages 💔

[zenith perch]

What if we get lore pages back guys

[granite shard]

Would be great but I don’t expect to

The lore blurb was basically a summary of the trailer

[real cedar]

Still, there's ideas being floated that could one day be followed up on rather than lost to time

[granite shard]

We can hope

[sinful bloom]

still waitin for rai to be added to the lore

[real cedar]

We're all in the lore already, as the unnamed modern researcher who collects this lore and tries to parse it

[sinful bloom]

your too kind rai just to kind

[orchid tangle]

personally I was put into the lore as kill buyer

[distant void]

Does anyone know where to find text on the lore? I watched/listen to HazmatFTW on YouTube but I was hoping for something to read.

[real cedar]

Oh boy do I!
All the lore-related text surrounding Hunt has been compiled into a Compendium, the link to which is in the pinned messages of this channel.
Alternatively, the same lore has also been ported over to the wiki: https://huntshowdown.wiki.gg/wiki/Lore

[spiral mica]

I hope they decide to do unlockable lore challenges for the fire breathers like they did with the bileweavers.

[real cedar]

Hopefully on a smaller number 😅 there surely won't be 50+ firebreathers killed per match

[zenith perch]

I hope pacts come back

I want the Demented Pact back

[orchid tangle]

I had hopes infernal pact would make an appearance this event after their recent mentions

but it would appear not

the last thing devils advocate has canonically done remains to be crawling on the floor pretending to be rotjaw

[timber parcel]

That’s why he’s the GOAT

[zenith perch]

I have taken to playing as Cain and making caveman noises at people

lore accurate

[zenith perch]

i forgot about that

Red Raven and One Who Flies are the perfect candidates for new Demented Pact members

The scribe graces us with knowledge

speak Rai Actiene so that I may record it

[real cedar]

Idk if they're truly demented or not. They're corrupted, but so are the welders, and even Private Eye wanders close to dangerous nihilism in her description of why she keeps hunting despite being called back to New York

Demented requires a bit of belief and worship with the sculptor, or at least following a strong leader with that belief. With that gone, most crazies are free to just be crazy alone or with any other pact

[zenith perch]

stop putting ripping apart my dreams!!!

[real cedar]

Anything's possible of course, Butcher's Cleaver and Beekeeper are still out there so the pact could one day come bac

[zenith perch]

bro

imagine if this is the event that they come back

[zealous palm]

He did what now?

[real dove]

Yes

It's so good

[gilded umbra]

Hunting is the game and every kill is a home run. ⚾

[vagrant pagoda]

we have an overt Assassin skin

A bile weaver? Spider? Skin

Are there a butcher or a scrap beak skin?

[tall lava]

https://huntshowdown.wiki.gg/wiki/Hunters/Butcher's_Cleaver
https://huntshowdown.wiki.gg/wiki/Hunters/Scourge:_Midian
https://huntshowdown.wiki.gg/wiki/Hunters/Scourge:_Morrigan

[zenith perch]

Morrigan and Midian are so cool

[vagrant pagoda]

Ah man, why isn’t that in regular rotation?!

The paid and season pass from the bile weavers event, are they the spider and bile weaver?

Is there anyone else missing?

[noble scarab]

The empress is our spider hunter

Though I think she could’ve been better

Her massive web crown is kinda goofy

[orchid tangle]

I think private eye is just a normal person. The amount of people who just get annoyed at their job to the point they'd rather jut kill people is probably a high number

[vagrant pagoda]

So are we missing the bike weavers then?

What about Rotjaw and Flambo? Do they have cultists?

Oh, could the Ghoul be a regular zombie friend then?

[noble scarab]

Empress does double duty and is our bile weaver hunter and then we have at about 10 hunters associated with rotjaw in some way

No cultists for the hellborn

[zenith perch]

Maybe for this event when inferno comes

[noble scarab]

Now would be a good time for a reskin of our firefighter guy, can’t remember his name

[gilded umbra]

Burnt Marshall 🔥

[vagrant pagoda]

I was thinking of Reptile and friends, but I wasn’t sure if they’re rotjaw or just gator vibes

Like Lonely Howl, wolves or hellhounds if you get me

[noble scarab]

The Reptilians are all decently tied into hunting rot jaw to the point where it’s an obsession so I count them

Them aside we have Gar

[real dove]

I live in hope we see enola return in lore

[spiral mica]

If we do she better not be separated from Rotjaw again.

[proper olive]

Ohhh valen I need help

[spiral mica]

Yes?

[proper olive]

Which boss is the saddest lore wise

[noble scarab]

either spider or rotjaw, spider is a melted corpse conglomerate and rotjaw just wants to be with her friend in the land of the dead

[analog pendant]

Rottie, without a doubt

[vagrant pagoda]

I think that’s the distinction for me

Cowl worships Assassin, whereas the Reptilians are hunting Rotjaw

[analog pendant]

Rottie’s just a scared pet/animal, separated from someone she loves/who loves her, and she’s being hunted for something she has no real control over,(correct me if I’m wrong!!), she’s just scared and trying to find her home

[tranquil tusk]

I vaguely remember a couple dudes in welding masks who were really into fire that got released around the same time as Hellborn. 🤔

[loud steeple]

That was garden of the witch which was two updates later. Wasn’t hellborn realeased with the 1896 launch

[tranquil tusk]

That sounds right. I couldn't remember the timeline.

[fickle sluice]

Don't spend all your sympathy on Rotjaw. The grunts are in a similar - arguably even worse - situation. All grunts are people, fully aware of what is happening around them and to them. And fully aware of what they are doing. They just have no choice. They are trapped within their own decaying bodies forced to helplessly witness the atrocities that they inflict on the world and the world has inflicted upon them. How many grunts did you stab in the face absent-mindedly on your way from A to B? Imagine being forced to be bent over a dead body, feasting on its flesh alongside two other poor souls just to get killed by a hunter to whom you are nothing more than a nuisance - just to be reconstituted by the sculptor and thrown back into the meat grinder.

I don't recall ever reading anything about how this works for other types of corrupted, but I'd wager it's not so different for any other enemy in the game.

[neat juniper]

i just wonder if sculptor's reconstructure retains memories from every grunt life, or only up to the point of being turned

[fickle sluice]

One would hope it's only up to the point where they have been turned. That would be horrible enough already.

[tranquil tusk]

Every time i set a grunt on fire and hear it's terrible screams of agonizing pain, i smile because i know I'm freeing them from a horrible prison of flesh.

This is also why i smile whenever i hear a hunter's death scream. Because i know that i have released them from the laggy server prison that they were thrust into.

[tired torrent]

Why doesnt the sculptor actually fight the hunters? Like if a boss get banished the sculptor sure knows that that happened, he could send things to the lair or even create sone right there

[spiral mica]

For a couple of reasons:
Firstly, Sculptor's influence and power is limited to specific areas which are described as incursion zones. It's already exhibiting a ton of power already.
The Sculptor also doesn't need to do anything or send anything to the lairs when hunters banish the targets because other hunters come eventually to fight those hunters. It all culminates in a surreal orchestra of bloodshed and corruption, and that culmination is ultimately what the Sculptor feeds on.
And finally, the Sculptor is called the Sculptor for a reason. It'll just make additional copies of the targets that have been slain, and thus the hunting cycle continues.

[tired torrent]

Has his intentions been explained already?

[spiral mica]

No, not really, but people assume it's intentions, whatever they might be are malicious in nature.

It feeds off the sin and corruption of mankind, and there was no shortage of it during the late 19th century.

[upbeat kiln]

I don't know how much Crytek has deviated from the Sculptor created by the original writers. But in the original setting, the Sculptor is incomprehensibly large. Far beyond what the human mind can understand. It is not an actual physical monster, but rather a spiritual entity of unfathomable size. A creature so vast it exists between the layers of dimensions in reality.

[spiral mica]

At one point it was believed that there were several different sculptors each possessing and exhibiting their own unique flavors of corruption. I imagine this concept was a lot like the outer gods from Elden ring. These sort of cosmic deities that exhibit different attributes and essentially act as forces of nature. Their influence is evidently a surrogate comfort for the suffering that is experienced throughout life.

[tired torrent]

Yeah i do been feeling like Crytek just deviated from actually fighting the corruption and sculptor, feels like now the story is just about the children in the park instead of who built it

I always wanted to know, what are the bounties? It's a shard or something with energy?

[spiral mica]

It probably feels that way because we've lost any semblance of a direct narrative. Now we just get minor tidbits and pieces of what ideally should be a larger story being told.

But despite this hiccup in the established narrative the sculptor is still very much relevant in the lore.

[spiral mica]

I remember someone else asking that same question a little bit ago, and Rai had the best answer for it.

I think the most common description/idea is that they're literally these tiny token-like coins that you can physically grab and flip between your fingers. There's also the possibility that they're what hunters use those vials that can be seen on the chest pouches that some hunter skins have. (i.e Blackcoat)

[tired torrent]

And like, they sell these bounties?

[spiral mica]

Yeah, to powerful backers now, and at one point to the AHA.

Which were probably still just more powerful backers.

It's important to point out that many of these hunters are either crazy or desperate enough to do this line of work in the first place. There's even examples of would-be hunters backing out of the job because they aren't crazy or desperate enough to do it.

The Haymaker mastery has some guy head down to Louisiana eventually leading him to encounter the assassin and then a group of hunters offer him a position upon banishing the target. He promptly declined the offer and swiftly headed back home.

The moral of the story is that hunting isn't meant for just anyone.

[tired torrent]

Well, and for what those bounties are used?

[gilded umbra]

I use to play a pen and paper roleplaying game many years ago called Beyond The Supernatural. There was a creature in the rule book that was an entity that didn't have a corporeal form. It would be interesting to see a glimpse of The Sculptor in a premonition or a vision, maybe in a trailer for an event. Or maybe a new AI Grunt that has a "Sculptor Aura" like a very faint, strange outline around its body.

[spiral mica]

The backers are using them for occult experiments. We can only imagine what some of these experiments must be like, but considering hunt's environment and atmosphere it's probably nothing lighthearted that's for sure.

The perpetual cycle goes like this
Sculptor > corruption > boss targets > hunters go out and hunt > banish target > bring bounty to backers > backers use bounties in their experiments > sculptor feeds off the human corruption and the cycle repeats.

Though, because the events of hunt are actually told from a prequel perspective the cycle isn't so perpetual as far as we know. Not too many people even knew what was going on in these areas to begin with. Just the AHA, backers, hunters, and a few outside observers (presumably the US government.)

[tranquil tusk]

I still want to see the Catholic Church get involved and send some "investigators" in to check things out.

Maybe we could finally get some crusader sword skins.

[spiral mica]

I doubt the Vatican and Catholic church is super aware of the situation at all, and if they are they're probably hesitant to get involved and prefer to observe from afar like what the US government is presumably doing. However, we do have many religiously affiliated hunters like Worm bite, Hail Mary, Ishim Gird, the penitent, and the sinners.

[vagrant pagoda]

Hardcore Magnus Archives vibes, I’m into it

[fickle sluice]

Iirc the bounties are similar to an organ, an actual, physical part of the bosses.

[fickle sluice]

We did get a glimpse of that during Scorched Earth. Victims were stuffed with bounty tokens, forced into way too small cylinders and fired down old oil wells to make them flow again. It kinda worked. And I understood that to be the origin of the Hellborne as well.

[spiral mica]

Yeah, and even though that's not the only example of occult experimentation in Hunt I do believe it's the only one attributed to the backers.

[vagrant pagoda]

not quite a lore question

But is there a suggested reading/listening list for adjacent books or stories?

Thinks that have similar themes and vibes

Someone suggested Blood Meridian due to the Judge the other day, and i'm tempted to follow that path

[left summit]

Blood Meridian is a good read.

[strange pecan]

Blood Meridian is a given. It's very graphic and explores the darkest aspects of the American frontier pre civil-war. One of McCormac's best works. More contemporary horror than weird west but still excellent.

Strange Accounts from the American Frontier. Anthology novel by Travis Weaver (u/StrangeAccounts on Reddit). Influenced by american folk horror and the weird west genre. Super fun and creative.

Merkabah Rider by Edward M. Erdelac. Extremely weird west but also very cool and well written.

Golgatha, a series of novels by RS Belcher. Weird west with a lot of pretty gruesome horror elements. It's more "traditional fantasy horror" when compared to Blood Meridian, which grounds itself in history, but still good.

[vagrant pagoda]

fantastic! thank you!

Got a birthday followed by a holiday dictated by a baby and 15 hours on a ferry, so lot of reading time

[strange pecan]

No problem. I enjoy this genre a lot so i've read a bunch. If you want a summary for these stories or my thoughts you can always drop a dm.

[real cedar]

New DLC coming soon:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4261920/Hunt_Showdown_1896__The_Madness_of_Montresor/
Oddly it has a public DLC page but no social media announcement yet, maybe it's coming later today or tomorrow. It almost feels like sharing it is sharing leaks, maybe they made the DLC public too early?

Steam

Hunt: Showdown 1896 - The Madness of Montresor

This DLC contains one Hunter, two Weapons, and one Tool:

- Montresor (Hunter)

- Palazzo’s Pride (Krag Silencer)…

Release Date

Coming soon

[granite shard]

lmao

[real cedar]

It's inspired by the Cask of Amontillado, another of the 19th century Literature Larpers 💪

[granite shard]

cask of amontillado'd him

[real cedar]

The story is pretty funny, imagine some guy going crazy for revenge, all like "Remember when I was telling you about that old Stephen King novel Misery? GUESS WHAT?"

Though that was only 39 years ago rather than Cask's 50 but it's funny to think about how contemporary the story would be at the time

[granite shard]

"hey you remember that movie saw? would you like to play a game?"

[noble scarab]

That’s a disgusting assortment of guns

[zenith perch]

that skin looks so good

[real cedar]

The Venice guy is a little too princely for the bayou but the guns themselves are nicely detailed, I like em.

Nagant was also hurting for a new skin after 2.5 years

[gilded umbra]

https://youtu.be/YQImMnvy3vE?si=UEYH5vwU_v8anzOW

Shiver Me Timbers 🏴‍☠️

[granite shard]

nice to see us getting trailers for DLC again

[zenith perch]

assassin's creed in the bayou

[strange bane]

That trailer’s quality was immaculate

What an interesting fellow

[real cedar]

It's cool to see the older style return where we get gameplay footage interwoven with cinematics

[strange bane]

Agreed, I love when they do that

[real cedar]

I prefer full cinematics cause they get to tell grander stories and flex their creativity but I can see why it's not feasible for every DLC to go that way

[granite shard]

yeah

[strange bane]

Valid

[granite shard]

just having something is just nice bc it felt so empty having just the still images for the hunters for so long

[zenith perch]

we kinda got the trade off for cool trailers for events

[strange bane]

Both are great in my humble opinion

[faint nimbus]

Something else I’m excited about is that the weapon skins don’t look agnostic, they’re actually different from one another

[real cedar]

That's a good point, it's back in the old style in multiple ways

[zenith perch]

the krag is similar to the statesman skins imo

you can use some of those to substitute

[strange bane]

I thought the trailer for the Kid was done really well, that was so long ago now. Been 4 years already! Wow

[zenith perch]

this is gonna sound weird, but I hope that Morrigan and Midian get a skin bundle like some other hunters have gotten, namely Buckshot and Snare

i like their skin style and wish it was on some more weapons

[faint nimbus]

Buckshot and snare are the richest hunters ever with how many weapon skins they had

I wish other hunters or factions had the same amount of skins, lol I wish the drowned hunters had more skins or even a medkit

[fickle sluice]

Oh how I wished that Krag was regular... That would have been a sure buy just for the Krag.

[strange bane]

I noticed the “M” inscription on the side of Palazzo’s Pride , looks exactly the same as the “M” inscriptions on some of the legendary weapons from back during Desolation’s Wake. Not to mention the use of the music from then as well, love “An Acquired Taste” by PSB

If I ain’t wrong, I reckon that may imply a connection of sorts

[real cedar]

Yup it's a reused asset, idk if there's any possible connection between the two bios though

[strange bane]

I like it still

I see connections even if they aren’t intentional ( My hope is they are)

I normally am not the most keen on opulently dressed Hunters, however I am keen on the design of this chap

[orchid tangle]

I have the same thoughts I had for scaramuccia for him. If he didn't have the mask I would play him a lot but since he does I probably wont play him at all personally but I still think the design is great

[strange bane]

Fair and valid

[tranquil tusk]

I wish he had a half mask just covering his eyes and nose. But, still in the masquerade style.

[real cedar]

Bauta masks are iconic enough to the Venetian scene that it feels right to use it, especially to differentiate from Scaramuccia and The Phantom.

[vagrant pagoda]

I do love that Italian thread that goes through the game

No idea where it comes from mind

[real cedar]

First view of The Bandit, these two are BB store hunters

Progression hunters are evolving past Veteran 😮

[noble scarab]

Crytek will do anything but give us more tiered hunters back

[real cedar]

I think we are getting the outfits back rather than new people, like Leon Ulitsky: Eluder might be that poncho fellow from the trailer

Ah it is the poncho pair we saw in the trailer

[vagrant pagoda]

Oh I like them

[loud quartz]

they look awesome, cant wait to spend 2000 fucking bbs on them 😭

[strange bane]

This all looks awesome

[strange bane]

True and real haha

[real cedar]

Lulu 2.0 DLC dropping next month and Light the Shadow hunters returning as part of the Legends Return initative 😮

Weird that they didn't want to put those images up in the stream when they just decided to throw it out there anyway

[granite shard]

huh wouldn't mind an updated lulu hunter

would be cool to have a form of her regularly available as dlc

[real cedar]

I don't think it's actually her, just another buxom gunslinger from Lewis' Saloon

[granite shard]

[spiral mica]

I definitely see the "cowboy" crowd of people enjoying the bandit and highwayman skins for sure.

[real cedar]

though let me double check

Almost the same choker but not quite, hard to say definitively

Leaning towards probably not

[granite shard]

she does have a significantly larger chest than lulu does so potentially different people lol

lulu's kinda a board

[real cedar]

Maybe they did the Keira Knightley treatment on her

[spiral mica]

Did they specify only the light the shadow hunters specifically or does that also include weapon and tool skins like tomahawk and wayfinder?

[real cedar]

That image is all they've said

[granite shard]

if it's like the gator bois it's probs everthing

[spiral mica]

That's what I'm hoping for

[real cedar]

In the stream they just said 'keep tuned for new info :)' when asked about old battlepass rewards returning

[granite shard]

different name tho so it might just be the hunters

[real cedar]

Maybe Legends Return was just the name for the gator bois and there's no distinct term for old skins returning

each one is treated as a small thing of its own

Ye cause they used the name for gator merch

[granite shard]

huh interesting

how long until they run out of words to pairr with legends 😂

[spiral mica]

That's actually gharial merch ☝️🤓

[real cedar]

🤓 ☝️ Gharial comes from the hindi घड़ियाल which is used for all gators and crocodilians

[spiral mica]

I should have known Rai would out "☝️🤓 " me. 😔

[wispy flax]

Light the Shadow

[orchid tangle]

don't they have mythic status?

[granite shard]

probs recolors

going off of the legacy name

[orchid tangle]

true

[spiral mica]

Imagine if they did just temporarily bring back every mythic item from the battle pass for a bundle purchase.

I'd buy it just for the conversion pistol skin

[orchid tangle]

I really like the exile

I kinda wish the skins we got in the pass were more army themed when it came to the trackers skins, even moreso if they're bringing back light the shadow stuff

I will patiently wait for my lt col

[zenith perch]

Maybe I can finally get the scrapbeak bomblance eventually

[faint nimbus]

I do hope the redesigns are more than just inverted colors

[gilded umbra]

I bought the Hunt version from Steam years ago that came with Sgt Bridgewater, Sophia and Teche Wraith.

[zealous palm]

What hunters are confirmed cannibals?

[loud steeple]

what a question

[mint wind]

The Cook.

[short patio]

Cain ?

[real cedar]

Daniel Glanton and William Salter, though they're both story characters rather than hunters. It's surprisingly not something that came up too much in the world of legendary hunters.

[mint wind]

The witnesses were found on a plate, the responsible nowhere to be found.

[noble scarab]

The old serum was made from hearts, but it wasn’t so much eaten

And there was that one guy in the Berthier lore feeding his wife corrupted flesh, but I don’t remember if she progressed to hunters

[spiral mica]

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but wasn't William Salter's cannibalism out of desperation rather than malicious intent? Or am I thinking of a different character from the narrative?

[real cedar]

I don't think the old serum was made from hearts after all, now that we're seeing The Cook cutting up a person and that being the key problem with the Scout's inoculation. Or maybe it confirms that Glanton's serum was similarly abnormal and may have contributed to his demeanor. We at least know they all contain blood or something similar enough based on Russel Chamber's description.

[real cedar]

You might be thinking of a different character, Salter was just crazy.

[noble scarab]

I wonder if it matters based on how infected/corrupted the hunter was at the time of the serum being made

[mint wind]

Hold on, I didn't catch this : who the hell is Daniel Glanton ?

[zenith perch]

Do we know the boosted hunters yet?

[real cedar]

The oldest Blood Meridian reference.

Theft, mutilation, fratricide, cannibalism; nothing was beneath him, as it would turn out. It's speculated that there was something more of the Sculptor in Glanton than in others.
https://huntshowdown.wiki.gg/wiki/Lore/Journal_of_Daniel_Glanton

[mint wind]

:D

Love me some BM references :)

[real cedar]

Surprisingly no, I'm starting to suspect there may not even be boosted hunters from the roster screens I saw from some streamers. The early indications aren't there this time.

[zenith perch]

Interesting

[real cedar]

Like these guys ought to have their little red arrows but there's nothing this time.
Perhaps they're responding to some feedback about feeling too restricted with needing to play the right hunters, or maybe they just didn't activate the event boost mechanic on the test servers? Hopefully the event point economy is boosted a nudge to accommodate

[zenith perch]

It sucks how Red Raven is at the end of the bp

DAMN YOU CRYTEK

MAKING ME HAVE TO WORK ON THE BP

[spiral mica]

You've got to grind before you can shine

[orchid tangle]

at least I get my forage cap at tier 1

[rare dirge]

The hunters this time around are pretty cool I know people been asking for a chef character for a while now

I’m curious to hear all their stories I really liked the animation they made for this event trailer

[gilded umbra]

And I even jokingly said, “How about a chef hunter that cooks other hunters”. 🤠

[rare dirge]

Hunter soup mmmmmm

[gilded umbra]

Hunter Gumbo 🍲

[zenith perch]

has anyone show any of the new stuff in the store?

[spiral mica]

I'm pretty sure we've only seen what was featured in the dev stream so far, but I could be wrong.

[real cedar]

None of the youtuber breakdowns i watched showcased the BB store stuff sadly

[grizzled zenith]

Same here, didn’t see anything

[wispy hill]

Has anyone else noticed next to the Dolorian between Blanc Brinery and Golden Acres on Lawson Delta. There is a package from Jay Gatsby doc was getting parts send back in time by Gatsby apperently xD

[real cedar]

The Gatsby package is a separate easter egg that can be found in many areas, like the easternmost room of Blanc Brinery

[spiral mica]

There's a few Back to the Future easter eggs on Lawson delta.

There's a trashcan in Lawson station with the sports almanac in it.

[gilded umbra]

Great Scott! 👨🏼‍🔬

[vagrant pagoda]

26 years earlier

If it was Jay Gats it could be just the actual dude

[vagrant pagoda]

reading Rotjaw's mastery

I'm assuming Queen doesnt age, or she's guessing the days wrong? because this has her last entry of dayas (28,900) at like, 80 years

[real cedar]

The Land of the Dead is nearly timeless. People try to make sense of the passage of time by their sleep and probably making scratches on something, or they just go mad and stop counting, but either way it seems like people can spend a long long time in there without much time passing in the real world.

[vagrant pagoda]

is that where the Sculptor vibes or is it another realm thats connected to him?

[real cedar]

It seems deeply connected to him, but it's hard to say that's where the Sculptor lives as it doesn't have a physical body that we're aware of. It does build statues of stories that happened in the Incursions so it might be fair to say it's the Sculptor's domain.

[vagrant pagoda]

i'm assuming the sculptor is some cthuluaean esque monstrosity who's physical form is so vast that we wouldn't filly comprehend it but it also has avatar's or shards with which it interacts?

[granite shard]

I think the land of the dead is getting corrupted by the sculptor to an extent

[real cedar]

Something like that, yeah. I usually refer to it as a cosmic horror or eldritch entity.

[vagrant pagoda]

so he's separate again?

so Rotjaw would then be Queen's alligator that she took to the Land of the Dead who was then taken back to our realm?

Was Rotjaw corrupted by the Sculptor before or after that then?

or was Rotjaw a corruption by the sculptor from the egg?

[real cedar]

The point at which Rotjaw entered the Sculptor's control for sure would be after it entered the Louisiana Bayou and was killed by Cardinal Rain & Gar. It was affected by the Land of the Dead from when it was first an egg, but the Sculptor may not necessarily have complete control over that land, there's other things going on there like whatever the Lord of the Dead is doing, and Lynch.

[vagrant pagoda]

i've not got that far as yet, reading the wiki in the order it's presented, trying to do a couple a day

So i'm finishing up armoureds now and probably be done until tonight

But i'm digging that there's more than just one source of power, variety is the spice of a good cults diet

[real cedar]

Ahh I see, yeah the second half of Rotjaw's story is told in the Tide of Shadows event story

and then Tide of Desolation is where we get some of the more concrete info about the Land of the Dead and the Sculptor

[vagrant pagoda]

oooh

the doubled edged blade of hiding the lore in stuff like weapon entries and the like

On the upside, there's so much of it, it really deepens everything

On the downside there's so much of it, it's a nightmare to catch up

[real cedar]

I say concrete but honestly I still have a hard time wrapping my head around it, it's all very metaphysical and vague since we're only witnessing it through the eyes of characters that hardly understand what's going on

[vagrant pagoda]

that's the best kind of cult

no one quite know's what's going on but everyone is convinced they do and they're right

[supple smelt]

Has anyone showed off the blood bond skins coming with the update?

[loud quartz]

they showed a new maynard and maynard silencer skin

[spiral mica]

They also showcased the Bandit and Highwayman hunter skins during the dev stream. They're this event's blood bond hunter skin additions.

[supple smelt]

Screenshots? 🥺

[loud quartz]

idk, maybe check the rachtaz stream on yt, the first one, maybe he showes them at the start

[spiral mica]

You can see everything we know that is coming in the dev stream over on the Hunt YouTube channel.

[loud quartz]

they did not show the store skins

[real cedar]

Statesman style maynard silencer skin, I just happened to be watching Vombuz show it off rn

[supple smelt]

Damn

Pretty nice

Guess that’s the new skin theme they’ll repeat 30 times

[real cedar]

Man I hope so

If that's the skin theme of the Lawful Pact or something I'll be happy

The Death Pact has a solid style too

[orchid tangle]

omg

yay

[spiral mica]

Weapon skins no, hunter skins yes. That's why I specified everything we know that is coming since there's stuff they didn't showcase during the dev stream. (i.e blood bond weapon skins.)

[clear mortar]

Not sure if this is the right chat to ask this but does anyone know what Billy Story's hand tattoos mean? Or what they are?

[mint wind]

Wait, he's already dead ??!

[real dove]

the outlaw that became the first firebreather, yes

[mint wind]

Ok I misread.

I thought the Statesman was KIA.

Which would honestly makes him a lot lamer.

[clear mortar]

Do you think we're gonna get anymore hunters based on the tarot cards ? I feel like the magician is the most likely

[zenith perch]

I wish the maynard didn't have the sniper scope

[orchid tangle]

he's already robbed of being cool everytime he's mentioned </3

his debut event he spends his entire time tied up complaining
then people casually kill his pet elephant
now people are casually stealing his weapons

do something bro

[mint wind]

Kinda works for him tho, might be safe to say he's one of the sanest hunters out there. He's just cruel and not really toughened up like the rest.

Might be the reason why he brings golden weapons in the bayou.

[orchid tangle]

they presented him way more skilled in his teaser trailer is my disappointment in it

[spiral mica]

I presented a suggestion for the Maynard carbine. Basically it would be a scopeless variant of the maynard with a shorter 21 inch barrel. Because of the shorter barrel length it would have slightly worse spread and significantly inferior range than the full sized Maynard sniper. The benefit would be having a maynard without a scope while also maintaining decent enough spread and good enough range for close to mid range fights. It would still retain all of the ammo types currently avaliable for the other two maynard variants.

[gilded umbra]

Desalle is an equally beautiful and dangerous place.

[devout summit]

I mean use the Springfield or sparks rifle bro so many rifles with iron sights but I guess an iron sight variant to the Maynard would actually be pretty cool

[mint wind]

And it’s the third unlock >:)

[strange pecan]

Is this the only new weapon skin in the store?

[primal condor]

no theres the chain pistol skin too like showcased in the promo art for highwayman and bandit, more i havent seen even on partner streams

[strange pecan]

Chain pistol, maynard and 2 hunters so far

Im guessing theres 1 or 2 more weapon skins

[delicate ferry]

Alright.....I ask this every time a new song comes out

...Did we get lyrics for "Bring the fire"
are we getting lyrics for the new song that is going to drop?

down in the king snake mine, we bring the fire.
(quick and dirty transcription for 'bring the fire', pretty easy going this time around)
Down in the king snake mine, we bring the fire.
I have found the devil there, down in the fire.
He says he got a deal, down in the fire.
His words were hot and sweet, his words were fire.
he comes going to set me free, free from the fire.
I let the devil out, out of the fire.
I let the devil out, Out of the fire.
Now devil walks with me, I am the fire.
I am his hands I see, We bring the fire.
I let the devil out, I am fire.
Who let the devil out?
Just bring the fire.
Just bring the fire.
His words were hot and sweet, his words were fire.
He gonna set me free, free from the fire.
I let the devil out, out of the fire.
I let the devil out, out of the fire.
I let the devil out, out of the fire.
I let the devil out, out of the fire.
I let the devil out, out of the fire.
I let the devil out, out of the fire.
I let the devil out, out of the fire.
I let the devil out, out of the fire.

[fickle sluice]

Is Chary back?

[granite shard]

that would be pog

[fickle sluice]

I mean, he'd be one of the few who know where the graven path used to be

[spiral mica]

With the next event around the corner and new pieces of narrative being dropped I had a question regarding the Turncoat's gang... what altercation or developments led to Turncoat and Headtaker becoming allies? Last thing I remember is that Headtaker was trying to kill Turncoat, but now it appears they're pals? Clearly I must've missed something.

That, or the context I'm missing is a piece of the puzzle that hasn't been released yet.

I'm wondering if their sudden positive development in their relationship is similar to what happened between Reptilian and Skinned?

[noble scarab]

I don’t think they’ve said

[strange bane]

Mayhaps he was pursuing the bounty placed on Mister Jansen for what happened at Red Cask Gulch? He was blamed for being a Turncoat even though he fought to the last breath and was swept away by a flood , sparing him

I could be reading into it too much, but Turncoat isn’t really a Turncoat per se. The how of him and Mister Head Taker coming to good terms is still any one’s guess

[real cedar]

Weirdly, they basically had the same conversation that The Reptilian and The Skinned had. It was like poetry

[real cedar]

Can't say I was expecting these as the finalists

[analog pendant]

I like the Neos Nelia the best

[orchid tangle]

damn no veteran

[spiral mica]

Not sure if I'd call that poetry or lazy writing, but I guess the fact that they're buddies now is what matters.

[fickle sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/george-lucas-its-like-poetry-it-rhymes-poetry-gif-19259245

[real cedar]

Sloth gets it

[orchid tangle]

burning someons partner alive makes for the best bonds ❤️

[fickle sluice]

I'm sorry, I couldn't let that chance go to waste

[spiral mica]

Tell that to Shade.

[noble scarab]

How’d we end up with entirely ugly skins

[gilded umbra]

Red Clay Skull baseball bat looks wicked. ⚾️

[spiral mica]

I'm a little disappointed nothing from that Raptor guy got picked.

But I'll probably be rooting for the Berthier skin because the bayonet variant only has a single one and it's mythic lol

[gilded umbra]

Berthier is such a great rifle.

[spiral mica]

I personally don't care at all for it, but I do feel bad for the people that use it. It's a second-rate pick at best, and definitely needed a buff to make it more desirable. It's also the bolt action rifle with the most mythic variants which is pretty cool.

[dusty gate]

I like the berth for irons and velocity. Also audio is cool

[tranquil tusk]

You didn't expect crytek to pick the busiest and most over the top skins?

I thought the shillelagh skin for the bat looked great. But, it wasn't insanely over the top. So, i knew it didn't have a prayer.

[real dove]

I dont think many of the picks are over the top

if anything they are kinda low compared to others

[grizzled zenith]

Agreed!

The bat looks fine though.

The Shillelagh would have been great or the catholic one

Btw, tomorrow the Rosary charm from the GotW BP should be up for sale 😄

Hype

Mary Burgess ftw*

Old Testament + Shadow Rosary

Would a Lemat with a French Cross (Lorraine) with Fleur-de-lis on the barrel be lore-accurate? Maybe combined with a chasseur de bois hunter?

[grizzled zenith]

Talking about skins, will the night tyrant uppercut be up for sale tomorrow?

With the blessing animation I mean

[real dove]

Dunno.

[grizzled zenith]

Okidoki

[real dove]

I don't track when stuff comes out/if does

😅

[grizzled zenith]

Just hyped haha

[real dove]

Yeah looks like a good event

[grizzled zenith]

I missed a year of events because of health reasons

[real dove]

aw, sorry to hear

the BP becoming buyable is huge

[grizzled zenith]

Yes, super happy

I dislike FOMO, especially when it’s not a person’s ‘fault’

Is their any specific lore that I can read about the Reverend and Mary aside from the Hunt Wiki?

My friend was saying the nun is apparently lesbian?

[real cedar]

It may not necessarily be available tomorrow, but it should become available some time during the course of the event. They've been putting out bundles of the weapons in waves.

[grizzled zenith]

Like the Vertebrae one I asked you about in january, sweet 🙂

[real cedar]

The wiki links to the two stories she's involved in, Serpent Moon and Journal of Circe Elias.
https://huntshowdown.wiki.gg/wiki/Lore/Journal_of_Circe_Elias

[grizzled zenith]

Alright, something to read before bed, thanks a lot 😉

[real cedar]

The latter is where her relationship gets detailed.
Similar connections are available to browse for the Reverend but they're more sparse mentions

[grizzled zenith]

My friend and I roleplay as Reverend + Nun duo

Had a great game two weeks ago in Blanchett

“You dare defile the House of the Lord?”

😂

We survived, but we sadly broke some of the Ten Commandments. Oops.

Alright, thanks again and gn!

[spiral mica]

iirc Hunt has at least 3(?) religiously affiliated hunters with the reverend, hail Mary, and worm bite.

wait I'm forgetting penitent I think

Also, night mother has a wooden cross hanging from her waist.

[real dove]

Depends on if you limit it to just Christianity

If not, that circle gets a lot wider 😅

[spiral mica]

True, and I think those 4 hunters I previously named all belong to different denominations.

[real dove]

Likely

[spiral mica]

Do we know of any Islamic hunters?

I know there's that group called the Sinners, but aren't they a collection of Jewish, Islamic, and Christian hunters?

Or are they just a collection of Islamic hunters?

[real dove]

I believe one was named

Unable to check the compendium rn

I would think hayali, as they are turkish

Likely also the Viper

My understanding of the sinners is that they're middle eastern but dunno if that's just me recalling that wrong

[tranquil tusk]

The Egyptian hunter in the white robes with the blue sash could be muslim. But, doesn't appear to be a defining feature, like the Reverend.

[real dove]

Oh shroud!

[spiral mica]

Oh yeah I didn't think about Shroud. The pistol she has strapped to her waist appears to be some kind of Moukahla flintlock too so she could be Islamic.

[drowsy copper]

Well her lore says that she’s Egyptian tied to the pharanoic era and Islam to Egypt thousands years later

But her name tells something else nafisa elhami is a Muslim name

[delicate ferry]

Lord have mercy....I love the new songs. But I'm struggling with 'the only god', Lotta words that my brain is like "wait....what is she saying?"

[strange pecan]

Worm Bite, Hail Mary, Penitent and Reverend are pretty clearly Christian. Worm Bite is an undertaker, Hail Mary is a nun. They're likely catholic.

The Ronin wears buddhist beads on his wrist, so he's likely either a buddhist or a zen-buddhist.

The Vaquero and Dame of the Dead are affiliated with the Mexican Day of the Dead which has a religious affiliation in the way of venerating Santa Muerte.

We can assume the native hunters are tied to native shamanism or native folk religion, great spirit etc. It varies wildly from tribe to tribe.

Rangda's Shadow is larping as Rangda; the demon queen of Bali in Balinese Mythology (Indonesia). Cultural folk religion.

Hayali wears clothing and armor based off of what was worn during the Ottoman Empire which is very much a thing in the years Hunt takes place. The Ottomans were muslim (with some countries remaining christian, such as Bulgaria, as an act of rebellion).

Zhong Kui, The Sovereign, Dead Blessing and North Star have affiliation with Chinese Folk Religion based off of their weapon skins and bios.

The Fang Shearer is likely affiliated with ancient south american rituals that use animal bones to connect with spirits and deities.

Crossroads Walker, The Night Mother and the Bone Doctor are affiliated with Voodoo. Very prevalent in the Louisiana area. Could also be Hoodoo but i'm not too knowledgable in either.

[primal condor]

add penitent to the catholic branch, considering he uses a roman cat-o-nine-tails. and flagellation mainly was a catholic penance!

[noble scarab]

We have a we Sinner hunters around too, which were Muslim

The viper, for instance

[strange pecan]

He is.

[grizzled zenith]

Hail Mary and The Penitent are definitely Roman Catholic. Source: Roman Catholic. 😂

[real cedar]

We even know which church The Penitent went to, Saint Francis Seraph in Cincinnati.

[hollow pollen]

are new fire grunts were hunters in the past?

[granite shard]

He was a member of the turncoat’s gang

[hollow pollen]

where can I read more about them?

[granite shard]

currently? just the skin descriptions in game

in the future we'll probs get stuff on the site

[real cedar]

Presumably the Firebreather will get a book of monsters entry detailing the turncoat gang story a bit more

[real dove]

i thought the lore bit we got for the FB was likely the entry

[real cedar]

That's only a tiny blurb, we got the full 5 chapter thing for the last two additions

[real dove]

prolly in time

[real cedar]

One big thing to celebrate: old Event hunters like Stormseer are boosted cause it makes narrative sense! 🥳 they usually avoid that

Is Head Taker boosted? I don't have him so I can't check. I'd assume so

[trail ether]

Is there a lore reason why people don't know where the extract points are?

[real cedar]

Nope, it's just a gameplay thing. Similarly, there's no lore reason why picking up a bounty token or using a tarot card informs Hunters of where random wagons and boats are chilling.

An easy assumption to make is that a lot of these Hunters are just winging it and know that drivers provide extract services regularly enough to rely on but may not necessarily know where they safely parked.

[trail ether]

That could just be magic

[real cedar]

It's pretty contrived magic if it is

[trail ether]

So there is no lore reason they are stupid 😭

[real cedar]

Yup

[trail ether]

I guess they could add some flavour text about safe spots for the carriage or boat shifting around all the time

And they only become apparent after the hunters go in

[real cedar]

Yeah I could see that getting mentioned in a story

[vagrant pagoda]

Surely, in theory, the whole edge of the map is extract points?

The carriages are just extract mechanics?

[spiral mica]

Thanks for the info!

[faint nimbus]

I’m a little confused is the story they’re trying to tell with the scouts that they aren’t handling the inoculation well and going crazy or that they are handling it a little too well and are just tearing stuff up

[real cedar]

The incoulation was made wrong intentionally by The Cook and now the scouts are partially Corrupted. Similar to how The Welders went a bit crazy despite their normal inoculation cause they spent too long working with corrupted metal and getting it in their system.

[pearl abyss]

seeing Leon and Joan getting lore is so cool to me tbh. Like makes it feel like everyone a character in this crazed story

[noble scarab]

unless im mistaken crytek has once again removed the lore blurb from our hunters

once you have obtained a hunter there doesnt seem to be a way to view their lore

i take that back, it now lives in the recruit screen

[pearl abyss]

no you can see them

opps

[fickle sluice]

What are we making of "The only god" lyrics?

[real cedar]

It's pretty good, it feels like a Hunter's creed in some ways. Maybe it's related to the Scout's corruption, Red Raven's bloodlust and One Who Flies' nihilism.

[split escarp]

Does the corruption have to spread out from the containment zone like a real disease does?

[real cedar]

It seems like that's how it works, yeah. Some of the early lore like Sheriff Hardin's bio talked about how there was desperate efforts to stop the spread of Corruption and contain it to the bayou. Nowadays that doesn't get brought up as much but it's still the assumption that the Incursions spread physically but are kept in check by Hunters.

If corruption pops up somewhere new and distant, it's considered a different Incursion that has a new origin, like the rituals and experiments that went down in Mammon's Gulch that seemingly brought the Sculptor there

[split escarp]

That would add to my theory that the corruption is a sentient disease

[full sail]

It would be pretty easy to set up lore for why the extracts are hidden. Perhaps something stirs in the corruption right now that prevents Hunters from being told the extract locations pre-hunt because it would make it dangerous for the extract drivers.

Like maybe with Red Raven and One Who Flies are so corrupted by their inoculation that they are shooting extract drivers and so they have to stay hidden until the last second.

[real dove]

I wouldn't mind if it was like hunters used to get some info going into the area but with the fall of the AHA n such, they have to rely on the towers as reliable places to find the places they need

[real cedar]

That's a pretty simple explanation and reinforces the changes that happened over time. Solid headcanon.

[zenith perch]

I have been loving the expansion to Death Pact weapons

And gear

[real cedar]

They even got a player profile frame in the BP, though they're not actually a part of the event 🤔 kinda like the infernal pact stuff last event, it's like mysterious filler

I want the Lawful Pact to have a theme

[gilded umbra]

Besides the lovely Sophia, who are the members of the Death Pact?

I want to know which hunters should use those new weapons.

[granite shard]

wormbite/bone mason/mama maye/reaper

[gilded umbra]

Excellent, thank you.

[granite shard]

mama maye was more of a secondary sort of member with wormbite/bone mason/reaper being more primary members

[analog pendant]

Is Mama alive like in the traditional sense like Joan Damon and Mama just happens to be kinda “Ghosty” or is Mama alive in the reanimated sense of a Drowned like Rat or Kid?

[real cedar]

She's just creepy and murderous, I don't think there's anything supernatural going on

[analog pendant]

Ah so she’s a weirdo, gotchu

Much appreciated as always, Rai-Rai

[zenith perch]

Also Dame of the Dead, Angel of Death, Lilith, and the undead sheriff I forgot the name of

Death Mask

[spiral mica]

Corvid and Bile are also members.

[real cedar]

Idk about members, they were helpful once in Desolation's Wake

Oh nope they are, 'Our new kin'

[granite shard]

oh cool I couldn't really remember if they were part of the pact or sofia and wormbite just went to them in DW

[gilded umbra]

The profile frame for the Death Pact looks awesome. And the Battle Pass and lore surrounding the new event is exquisite.

[spiral mica]

I'd like a Primal pact profile frame with strips of reptile scales hanging off the corners and edges.

But ideally they should make one for every pact we've had thus far.

[zenith perch]

Us Demented Pact fans are starving

Also Headsman is a Death Pact member potentially

[spiral mica]

He'd fit the vibe they've got going.

I think the biggest pact with the most members is either death or grounded. The smallest is probably Drowned.

[zenith perch]

going off that death pact vs death pact thing they did awhile ago, I think death pact has the most

[split escarp]

Why do some hunters dress the way they do?

[loud quartz]

cause ✨fancy✨

[subtle crystal]

Any cool lore tidbits about The Reverend/Hail Mary? (My fav hunters)

[earnest jungle]

Circe and Hail Mary used to date

They're one of a couple confirmed queer hunters along with the Mountain Man, Lulu, Sophia, The Ronin, The Viper, Gar, along with several characters that have yet to appear in game.

(Alvise Seiko, Alison Davis, Jos McGowan, Hayden Collins, "Jonas," Elliot Schneider,)

[subtle crystal]

Oh that’s cool as hell

I gotta get someone to run Circe with me when I use Hail Mary then lol

[clear mortar]

What hunters are in the smugglers pact??

[granite shard]

Rat/carcass gunrunner/cage head guy whose name I forget

The tos mythic dude

[strange bane]

Wayward Helmsman

His morals were also very wayward

[clear mortar]

Is pappy redneck part of smugglers?

Also in your guys opinion from a lore and personal stand point, what's your favourite pact?

[spiral mica]

I don't believe Pappy redneck was part of any pact, but his son, redneck was part of lunar during devils moon.

The 4 main smuggler pact hunters were Helmsmam, deckhand, rat, and carcass gunrunner.

[gilded umbra]

Pappy Redneck is a member of the Moonshine Pact. 🥃

[strange bane]

I enjoyed the Lunar Pact and Later the Drowned Pact the most based on vibes and lore, however the Grounded and Death Pacts are also solid

[lucid marten]

Are the bandit and the highwayman the same person but at different ages? been reading their description but noticed that while highwayman has a name and the bandit doesn't mention one at all. it wouldn't be first skin to do that so i'm just guessing.

[spiral mica]

Pretty sure they're different people with different origins.

One of them owes Turncoat a life debt and the other joined his gang because he wanted to advance his fortune and glory further.

[tired torrent]

How does the phantom has a mechanical arm?

[granite shard]

magic

the witch lynch gave it to him

[analog pendant]

Would Love to see more hunt-ified prosthetics

[spiral mica]

I could imagine Phantom retrofitting different weapons and tools onto his prosthetic arm.

[tranquil tusk]

The new song Bring the Fire by Port Sulphur Band makes me think that Kingsnake Mine has an underground coal fire burning.

If that's true, it could be a reason why the area is isolated and became a target for an incursion by the Sculptor.

[zenith perch]

what secondary do you guys think fits The Cook?

[gilded umbra]

Machete 👨‍🍳

[zenith perch]

Hmmm

[orchid tangle]

you can make it simpler if you wanted to using his army past. Idk when he was enlisted but the army has issued the equivalent to the games scottfield, pax, and conversion throughout the years to 1896 so any of them in theory could fit him as if he just kept his

[zenith perch]

I was also thinking that one bloody Romero Hatchet skin

[analog pendant]

The Mumur Butcher throwing axe skin for the hatchets from… that one event that gave us the fire Marshal and the butcher skin…

[zenith perch]

He already has his throwing axe

Maybe the Death Letter or Scourge nagant officer brawlers could work

[zenith perch]

Maybe the Bloodshot hand crossbow is a good fit too. Idk I think I am over thinking a little

[tranquil tusk]

Well, in the trailer, his lunch woke up on a table. So, maybe a baseball bat?

[rancid blaze]

hello is it possible to know who broke a branch or did the devs forget it in the tracking update ?

[random marsh]

Does anyone know the names of these two hunters and how to get them?:)

[analog pendant]

Seem to be some of the older veteran hunters you could buy, not available at the moment

[noble scarab]

Post Malone from last event is basically the guy on the left

We also have a similar hunter minus the skull as a prestige reward I think

Buddy on the left is now vaguely Otis Blackwell

[random marsh]

Okay thanks, my friend @proven fox was wondering where to find more lore about hunt? Where would the best place for her to find some be?

[analog pendant]

Would recommend videos by HazmatFTW, we also have the lore compendiums made by the wonderful scribe, Rai

Because of Google Doc's character limitations, the Hunt Showdown Lore Compendium had to be split into two documents. The Secondary Compendium features all Weapon Descriptions, all Legendary Skin blurbs, every Easter Egg found so far, all Port Sulphur Band songs, and a full timeline of events. More features may be added in the future as they are introduced in the Lore.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q97ki-3qfYpYz6g9SkRZIwTPn5jKSnIBlYoZsWxHSm8/edit?usp=sharing

This Compendium of Lore features every Book of Monsters entry, every Book of Weapons entry collected into stories, every Legendary Hunter bio, every Event Story, every online blog post, every poster and letter in the maps, every story-related Legendary Skin blurb, links for better reading, and some extra observations such as real life connections and translations. It regularly gets updated as more lore is added to the game.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rKddGsDAJjaijR5uK1gefOipscWTXeFy8Ry0vF-oTY/edit?usp=sharing

This is all Rai’s work, I’m just passing it along

I take no credit what so ever

[random marsh]

Awesome thanks for that! There you go @proven fox all the lore you can ask for there!!

[proven fox]

Oh wow, thank you so much!

[real dove]

Feel free to ask stuff in #lore-discussion too

Oh

Lol

I'm so good at reading

Your honor in my defense I thought I was in console chat

[real dove]

Shhhh

[real cedar]

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOO

[real dove]

LORELORELORE

[strange bane]

LETS GOOOO

[gilded umbra]

Every lore entry is a lesson.

[zenith perch]

THE BUTCHERS CLEAVER AND BEEKEEPER LIVE

[granite shard]

Curious to see if we get more lore entries for the event

[gilded umbra]

It’s interesting how the scouts basically, eventually said, “It’s ok now, everything is fine”.

[orchid tangle]

I just gotta wonder what the colonel was thinking reading the last two reports, I interpret the way he reads it out loud to himself in the trailer as making sure he's reading it right since it's so obviously BS

[gilded umbra]

Yeah, based on their previous entries he must know they’re being disingenuous.

[gilded umbra]

I can feel the measured and subdued tension from the Colonel just by the way he read their entries from that trailer.

[strange pecan]

This is like the biggest red flag ever lol

''Zombies everywhere it's a fucking nightmare out here''

''Actually nvm''

[real cedar]

Looking at it objectively, if you sent a pair of scouts out to look into some random rumor and they were like "Yeah dude the dead are walking, we took drugs and see blue fireflies and fight big monsters, people are killing each other all over, send in the whole damn army... ahh nvm man we good" and those scouts were unreachable from then on, the reasonable thing would be to distrust the intentions of the scouts. It sounds like an excuse to go AWOL, though in this case they're not even military, just former military mercenaries. Easily written off.
Even so, chances are they'd send another scout with more strict instructions.

Or maybe Whitlaw will just make the trip himself 👀

[gilded umbra]

I was thinking the same thing. What if the conflicting entries makes him curious. We’re headed for something interesting.

[orchid tangle]

if messages I was receiving went from "send LOTS of reinforcements" to "nope everything is fine!!!" I would be putting a lottttt more time and energy into the area

[analog pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/doubletake-gif-20683599

[fickle sluice]

It's the Solo gambit

https://tenor.com/view/funny-starwars-fine-doinggood-gif-6154055

[gilded umbra]

Is the Twitch drop hunter The Infected a member of the Death Pact?

[spiral mica]

As far as I'm aware he hasn't been affiliated with any of the pacts.

That being said, he does seem like a suitable choice for the death pact. He's certainly dressed the part, and he's in a similar situation as death mask who is a death pact hunter.

[sinful bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/sassy-tyra-banks-yas-gurl-snap-gif-15300460874647317020

infected is his own man he dont need no pact

[clear mortar]

I think all twitch drop hunters aren't affiliated with any pacts due to them only being available at certain times and cause you can only get them from twitch

[dusty gate]

New twitch drops?

[strange bane]

Unsure, I reckon mayhaps Head Taker was the most recent new addition?

Am excited to see what they do in the future however, all the Twitch Drops Hunters were immaculately designed

[viscid sinew]

What are bounty tokens in-lore? Is it a boss head?

[granite shard]

Some small part of the boss, like a knuckle bone or something. It’s not really been specified exactly beyond being small enough for someone to fidget with

[real cedar]

So far the clues about tokens are

• Small enough / long enough to roll across someone's fingers or ingest
• Sturdy enough to be stored in bulk inside barrels
• Each token is unique to each boss/wild target, The Statesman was curious about what Rotjaw's token looked like
• The token is picked up after banishment, whether that means it's the one piece of a boss that doesn't disintegrate, or it could mean it's an esoteric distillation of the whole boss into a tiny form

[real dove]

turns out the tokens are just dnd minifigs

[upbeat kiln]

https://youtu.be/9fZQU_z96RY

[smoky anchor]

The new lore for the firebreather is amazing. Perfectly sets up the coming Inferno event

[vivid thunder]

I love the lore but I feel like this is the laziest way of telling it. Wish they give us some sort of a campaign like spartan ops short stories that let us experience the world. I also wish they add the gun book and monstrum back into the game. To my understanding the files are there just hidden from player access.

[real cedar]

Doing a campaign would require the whole development studio to get distracted from the live service game and build levels and challenges and stories for the sake of a single player version of the game that few people would ever dedicate time to. They tried before with Trials and gave up on it for lack of interest.

I definitely wish they could focus more on the stories but as it stands it's like two people in the entire studio that actually work on these narratives.

And even that got pushed back down compared to the book of monsters/weapons and event story days

[vivid thunder]

Trials felt more like an advanced how to play the game. I feel like they wouldn’t need much of team for a spartan ops style short stories.

They have this grand world but it feels flat empty and hallow because they never put it on screen.

[granite shard]

we don't need an overwatch pve situation to happen with hunt lol

what would be cool is if they could do comics and stuff, or even get voice actors to read the stories again

[real cedar]

It would take
-Narrative designers
-Level designers (the number of which depends on if they're cordoning off parts of the main map or building new ones)
-Gameplay designers
-UI designers
-QA
-Animators, cinematic artists, and voice actors if cutscenes are part of the short stories
All of which would otherwise be working on the next big Hunt map, the next Hunt gameplay content, or the next cinematic trailer for upcoming events/DLCs/whatever

Comparatively, the stories we get as is take
-Narrative designers
-UI designers if they actually want to put the story back in the game

[vivid thunder]

I don’t want that either in spartan ops they took small maps put objective had some cut scenes and some dialogue that came incremently it doesn’t have to be much. The opening to it could be the world so far talking through the rise of the hunters association, the hostile take over, different key events, and then each event could have a single quick story to give it shape. It make these characters feel alive and have personalities.

My thing is this game has potential in that area but it’s starting to fall in that same category as halo and cod where it’s all multiplayer with little to no substance.

[real cedar]

In an ideal world I'd definitely want that to happen as well, it's just I think Crytek doesn't have the vision/drive/whatever to budget their employees well enough to both continue providing content for the live service and also do enough to enrich the narrative.
Just enriching the narrative even through online stories feels like it's not likely to happen these days. The core story has been stuck in one spot since 2024 when they essentially gave up on the lore for a while.

[analog pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dropped-this-algorand-jake-peralta-king-algorithm-gif-13079469556838504924

[spiral mica]

There sure are a lot of similarities between the immolator and fire breather.

[carmine marsh]

one of them just ate at toco bell

[fallen knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/little-pills-mintmake-cute-animated-gif-3356542978717657575

[gilded umbra]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/s/M803DmN1Pu

This is an interesting idea I encountered on Reddit.

[fallen knoll]

fascinating idea but that would make the whole everything else was normal after the game be questionable interesting idea though

but yet again would make the hunters less scary

sorry seems i forgotten how to read

thought he was talking about a map

[gilded umbra]

Well, I saw someone here once say it would be cool if we could see The Land Of The Dead. Maybe instead of a weather condition it could be a new map. 🗺️

[fallen knoll]

maybe a future nuke test site

[gilded umbra]

Ash Bloom kind of reminded me of an alternate plane of existence since it was like being in a nightmare.

[fallen knoll]

and the clues seem more like a portal maybe a hunt version of upside down

[gilded umbra]

Exactly 👍🏼

Hunt has so much potential for strange maps and new weird weather.

[fallen knoll]

and monsters but guess they have the players be the bigger threat

[gilded umbra]

Yeah, in Hunt the hunters are the real monsters.

[spiral mica]

I remember when ash bloom initially dropped people assumed everything was going to be burnt and smoldering like how it is at miner's folly on mammon's, but then it just turned out to be thicker fog with ambient noise and a unique skybox.

rain is cool because it actually has visual effects like ripples in the water and rain dripping from the rooftops, but ash bloom was kind of a disappointment.

Most people would prefer it if it never returned. Meanwhile, everyone would like to see the serpent moon come back.

[noble scarab]

speak for yourself^ i liked ash bloom minus the random footstep noises

serpent moon was just ok, another night map with a bit more green tinged visivility

[noble scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/the-grinch-audacity-outrage-angry-mad-gif-27203802

A crypto scam? On our hunt discord?

[granite shard]

Such an uncommon occurrence

[fallen knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-wth-confused-huh-what-gif-6154003038879814

im not sure whats going on

[orchid tangle]

any public server with more than about three people in it will get compromised accounts joining it 24/7 that will typically post screenshots in the form of a guide that will scam you/compromise your account, they post these images in EVERY channel but this server has it automated to be deleted (the little white glow will still show up for others so you can tell when one tried something by seeing every channel light up but no new messages)

once your account is compromised it will also start joining servers to be malicious and post these screenshots or DM people

it is the closest thing humanity will have to a zombie plague

[noble scarab]

I chanced to see it posted and deleted

[fallen knoll]

thank you for the explaination

[analog pendant]

The sculpter knows no bounds

[analog pendant]

[gilded umbra]

This magnificently vile concoction was brewed with "special" ingredients 👨‍🍳

[spiral mica]

Meh, I like the Necrosis and plague skins way better

[gilded umbra]

That is my Necrosis. And fortunately for me it has the exact same effect.

Besides, the Bone Broth has more “flavor”. 🍖

[fallen knoll]

well guess im going across the map

[subtle crystal]

What are ur guys favorite weapon skin lore? I got some BBs to spend and I wanna have a cool lore skin

[gilded umbra]

I like to use signature weapons with their corresponding hunters.

[real dove]

LANCE SKINS

what was the question

[real cedar]

The Polar Star nagant precision, it has some cool connections to irl history both in the real Polar Star ship, the style connected to a gun the Tsar Nicholas II was given, and the Cyrillic on the weapon referring to past polar expeditions and port cities and an archipelago around the North Sea

[short halo]

You guys ever think lynch will get a skin

I really like how Ambrose hazen is weaved into her inner workings

[orchid tangle]

I don't think lynch will

I could maybe see a reality where chary might get something

[manic lichen]

Isn't Lynch dead at this point?

[short halo]

Many people in the lore are dead and are still skins

If I'm correct

I'm pretty sure i am but

Yk itd be cool to see

[manic lichen]

Well, they died later down the line.

[short halo]

Yet they're still playable so I think it's a good opportunity

Just a thought

I'm happy playing Ambrose regardless

[manic lichen]

No wait, maybe I am thinking about someone else

Yeah I am nvm, Lynch should be about

[short halo]

Yeah

It would be cool to see

Especially with her mentioned appearance and aura in Ambrose hazen s description and other lire

Lore

[real dove]

Honestly I'd prefer she remains in the shadows

OR

As a witch boss

I'm still hoping someday we get a chary vs lynch

She steals his powers and becomes an ai, he becomes a normal hunter and we get him as a skin

Starring Kevin and the crew

[spiral mica]

I feel like Lynch would be a close resemblance to that witch concept from the horrors of the gilded age prototype from 2017.

[gilded umbra]

🪘 🎶 Pound me the witch drums, the witch drums pound me the witch drums 🎶 🪘

[fickle sluice]

Please no Lynch-Witch-Boss. That would be too much of a Kessel Run moment to be fun for me. Being able to slap Lynch with a shovel or blowing her up with a sticky would just not do her justice

[gilded umbra]

🪘 🎶 Found me the witch drums, the witch drums better pray for Hell and not hallelujah 🎶 🪘

[real cedar]

At this point the time to do anything gameplay wise with Lynch has passed, she's been built up too long that nothing could satisfy.
I think she'd do well as a witch boss after failing to ascend to become like the Sculptor but the current narrative wouldn't be able to make that fulfilling. If we had gotten a lynch trilogy like the Tides that built up to her being added + her tarot cards, it could've been worthwhile.

[fickle sluice]

The things crytek has shown-off would be perfect for something as dangerous as Lynch. I'd imagine something with these elements: weather condition, special compound, boss. A trilogy.

Part 1: New AI that relate to the other bosses like the bile-weavers relate to the spider. Spike-flinging ranged-AI for the assassin for example. We as the community are tasked with investigating the source of these new dangers.

Part 2: New weather condition that shrouds the maps like the Ashbloom but overtunes the AI during the dark periods, turning even grunts into real dangers. They could provide a certain currency that gives big rewards. Hell, just use the event tokens for that. Wanna farm them big time? Go out during the storm of madness. Turns out, Lynch is preparing her come back and we'd have to prevent her from establishing a beachhead while looking for means to defeat her.

Part 3: A new form of special compound, a crater in the landscape akin to how the clues look, where a powerful new boss roams. A witch that is a lot more difficult to kill than any other boss or wild target but also provides much greater rewards. Lynch has managed to come back, but she's been weakened to the point where she can be beaten. Even if it means to rely on the research Chary and Finch have left behind (could provide a new Scarce Weapon)

That would be something I could get behind, if we really need to see Lynch

Alas, I know it is but a dream.

[granite shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng9ekqvVv54

this is sick

I can't tell if this is the statesman or not

looks like him but the hair seems grayer in this image

[kind siren]

its him 100%

[noble scarab]

Another recolor maybe

[granite shard]

Yeah maybe

[noble scarab]

Weren’t we teased a recolor of our other mythic Native American skins too?

[granite shard]

I’m not sure

[noble scarab]

I think it was on the event page, I’ll try and find it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/350202864242655234/1481364738549092584/Twitter_1920x1080_5.jpg?ex=69d74d2c&is=69d5fbac&hm=d022a734a8b68ac09111987212024796e864b56b32f4ab9aa4bde45560966ab5&

The legacy chronicles

[granite shard]

oh right

tbh the statesman isn't one of the hunters I'm rushing to get a recolor for

looking forward to the indigenous hunters tho bc I didn't finish light the shadow back in the day

[manic lichen]

Am I forgetting someone or haven't heard or seen a "Whitlaw" yet?

[granite shard]

he was mentioned in the event trailer

the guy the scouts were reporting to

[loud quartz]

Wasn't he also seen in the trailer?

[granite shard]

not in any great detail, I think we saw his back and maybe his profile as he read the letter

[loud quartz]

Yeah just a bit of him. Guess that guy comes with next second mid event update if they didn't show him in the latest trailrr

[zenith perch]

THAT TRAILER WAS SO COOL

[granite shard]

it was super well done

I do wish tho that we'd get more consistent stories instead of high budget cinematics like this

now that overwatch's got one, when's the hunt webtoon dropping

[manic lichen]

Something I am not completely sure about is who is dead or alive after this trailer.

[granite shard]

haha yeah

the highwayman was too pretty to be allowed to live

[keen mirage]

Most likely everyone. Turncoat and his people died + the two scouts, but Hunters can technically revive each other with voodoo.

And the turncoat has 2 more people in his gang. The Headhunter and another one. So technically they can still bring them back.

[sinful warren]

Lore Necro doesn't work like the one in-game afaik

Whenever a Hunter gets revived, they pretty much become undead looking

The revenant, Kevin or the drowned skins

[granite shard]

I mean we don't know how dead dead they are

they got shot and are on the ground but they're theoretically able to be revived

[sinful warren]

The chef sliced one of them so idk

But we will see if they all just walk fine in a new trailer

[keen mirage]

Kevin and the drowned are revenants though, brought back by the moon and Lynch respectively

[granite shard]

I mean yeah he got sliced but it's not an immediate death thing

[sinful warren]

Also Highwayman kinda shot both scouts in the head

[keen mirage]

Maybe it has to do with how quickly somebody dies.

[sinful warren]

Also chef cooked his neck

[zealous palm]

Both One Who Flies and Red Raven got shot in the head....

[keen mirage]

Because the Rat took days to be brought back, same for the Kid.

[sinful warren]

Got the pun?

[sinful warren]

Would have to see

Personally I wish they all just didn't die like that

But if they did, it is what it is

[zealous palm]

If they are dead dead, isnt this the quickest they killed new characters?

Like, they've only been around for like a month

[granite shard]

Hunt doesn’t really commit to killing characters

[keen mirage]

Well we've seen many get mangled or near dead and many get brought back.

[granite shard]

They’re likely still alive

Yeah

[zealous palm]

Ah, comic book/soap opera deaths

[keen mirage]

Even the drowned somehow turned back to humans by the end of Tide of Desolation

[sinful warren]

Lillith got killed in the web of the Empress trailer, so prob no

Oh nvm

[keen mirage]

The only Dead dead Hunters are the two clowns from Murder Circus and Lafitte, though Lafitte became the equivalent of Charon for the land of the dead.

[real cedar]

Not quite, Lafitte's soul burned up so he's gone completely

[keen mirage]

There's a bit of a contradiction between his description and the lore

[granite shard]

Nah they’re still gross

[keen mirage]

So maybe it was his corpse that burned?

[granite shard]

Sofia muses abt how the drowned’s smell lingers in desolation’s wake

[gilded umbra]

Main characters dying like an episode of Game of Thrones.

[keen mirage]

Idk, the Rat says she feels her skin warm and that a mosquito draws blood in the Epilogue.

[granite shard]

So they’re still aquatic zombies lol

[keen mirage]

Funny thing is that zombie is and also isn't the right term. Essentially they're revenants, brought by voodoo back. Just as how the og Revenant was brought back by the Bone Doctor

[granite shard]

I think an earlier Sofia entry also references them still being gross too

[keen mirage]

Eh, idk at this point.

[gilded umbra]

He looks like an older version of The Statesman. 🎩

[granite shard]

More implies them being aquatic zombies than not

[keen mirage]

Supposedly they are. It's that small detail in ToD that makes it like so.

Also, what did cause the Ashbloom in ToD? Was it the Infernal fires or the passage to the Land opening?

[real cedar]

Lynch said we four Drowned hold all the bayou's sins now. I don't feel much different than before though. Rain feels cool. Bullets cause pain, and pain reminds me I'm alive, or alive enough. A mosquito finds the sunlight warm on my cheek and drinks. I wonder what desolate plain it feels itself upon as the shadow of my hand covers it.

So they're pretty well off as far as undead goes, as gross as they seem on the outside

[keen mirage]

So they only look like zombies, kinda.

[zealous palm]

I mean, zombies originated from Vodou...

[granite shard]

Look and smell like them lol