lore-discussion

[faint nimbus]

Good to see the concubine mentioned

(ignore psychoghost)

[granite shard]

impossible

[spiral mica]

I wonder if Alaz and Scaled Ward would compliment each other's weapons since they both seem to have a sort of affinity for coins.

Scaled Ward has a coin as a charm, and a Berthier with coins embedded into it. Alaz has her Kukri knife and Sparks rifle which also has coins embedded into them.

[faint nimbus]

Full coin loadout to flex on the bayou

[spiral mica]

Coin collector duo

They're probably really good at finding the little hunt dollar and blood bond pouches.

[faint nimbus]

Honestly on first glance I thought this charm was just a hunt dollar

It does have a unique design though can’t tell what type of coin it is

[spiral mica]

There seems to be some kind of face on it. Likely the face of that goddess of protection that the description mentions.

[sinful bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/you-are-the-best-ted-gif-21368055

[proper olive]

Hey is the fool dead or alive

[analog pendant]

My understanding is that the judge was the one that died, meaning that the fool runs free, but I need my lore homies to fact check me

[gilded umbra]

He almost killed me yesterday so he’s still alive.

[delicate ferry]

Here is my attempt to transcribe the new song, Feel free to listen in and tell me your take on it.

Port Sulphur Band – Web of the Empress
(unofficial fan transcription by ear)

They told me not to wait,
They told me don't pretend.
They told me it was fate,
Then left me there for dead.

They told me I was free,
Then said to raise the dead.
They told me I could leave,
But what would break must bend.

For I am the night, cry of the Sworn.
You are the silence, I am the song.
This grave is a cradle, and I am no pawn.
I am sunset, and this is the dawn.

The Spider takes a queen,
A game you've never played.
I save a breath for you,
And leave you there for dead.

You taught me how to kill,
And I showed you how to die.
Now just your blood will spill,
For what won't break will rise.

We are the night, cry of the song.
You are the silence, and we are the song.
This grave is a cradle, and I am no pawn.
We are sunset, and this is the dawn.

This grave is a cradle!
And I am no pawn!
We are sunset!
And this is the dawn!

This grave is a cradle!!
And I am no pawn!!
We are sunset!!
And this is the dawn!!

This grave is a cradle...

[upbeat kiln]

🙁

[real cedar]

Really solid 💪
The one line I think is different is "I save a breath for you" is "I say a prayer for you"

[fickle sluice]

Not sure if it isn't "Cry of the Swan"

[real cedar]

One of those accent lines that'll probably be impossible to determine until proper lyrics are given

[fickle sluice]

Could be a weird translation from a non-native speaker. I can see how someone who's a german native speaker and not all that familiar with the terminology could confuse Crosshair and (Iron) Sights

[empty basin]

@upbeat kiln another great video by the way! Haven't been excited to try a new event like this in awhile, definitely looking amazing for the Halloween season!

[upbeat kiln]

Glad you liked it ❤️ looking forward to covering all the lore 😄

[upbeat kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moUpDGfb1xQ

It's up :))

[real cedar]

Oh duh

Cry of the swarm, not sworn or swan

It's about the bileweavers so of course it'd be swarm

[spiral mica]

Kind of funny since spiders don't swarm they cluster.

[smoky anchor]

i don't think i've seen more than 1 spider in the same room

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all

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[strange bane]

Love your name partner, Pennyshot is a beast to use

[noble scarab]

I think baby spiders are more likely to swarm, and only certain communal species

I know I’ve seen videos of tarantula babies dog piling a very unfortunate cricket

[last summit]

seems like "taught me how to kill, showed you how to die" is a recurring lyric

[delicate ferry]

Now that I'm listening to it again after a long ass nap, It might be swarm, just might.

[proud night]

not exactly but it doesnt really make sense to use crosshairs in this context either since the marathon doesnt have a scope. unless maybe its metaphorical.

[earnest jungle]

God is mocking me; waking me up in the middle of the night only for the update to have been delayed two hours

[real cedar]

Holy shit

Hm I can't upload images right now but Death Mask's lore is more metal than I ever expected

[real cedar]

Former lawman Joshua Merkley fell to the Corruption - until the Corvids found his shambling body. He awoke in agony, but could grasp a gun again. Trapped between life and death, he captures grunts for more experiments and seeks a truer cure

The Corvids nearly cured a grunt, that's huge!

He's also part of the Death Pact, the new Mako skin mentions them. Cool to see they're still around and recruiting.

[real dove]

Makes sense

I wonder if the infected and him are buds

Former grunt and almost grunt

Drinking buddies

[zenith perch]

death pact are my favorite next to demented

[spiral mica]

Considering his brush with death and semi-return to life the Death pact seems like a fitting choice for him.

[granite shard]

corvids were also tied to the death pact so yeah that makes sense

[noble scarab]

We got a lot of new immortal/undead/both folks this go round

Well at least 2

Him and the hanged man

[real cedar]

Not necessarily immortal, just haven't died correctly

Empress also falls in that category

[noble scarab]

We’ve got those 3, bad hand, the infected, the 3 drowned, the Egyptian lady

I’m sure I’m forgetting some too

[zenith perch]

Angel of Death maybe

though its been awhile since I read her lore

[real cedar]

She's got the eyes so yeah I assume she's been resurrected

"Born in the darkness of the same sunken crypt where she was once buried alive,..."

[granite shard]

I don't think the infected is undead I think he's just slowly turning into a grunt

iirc he got the innoculation as he was turning so it slowed down the process

[real cedar]

Yeah he's just a dead man walking rather than a DEAD man walking

[real cedar]

Interesting.
Hidden away in the event details page is the names for each of the skin sets in the event:
Spinner's Apparatus set, Luck of the Draw set, and Samhain's Blessings set

[pearl abyss]

Why do i feel like they be the types to learn how to save grunts only to forget to write it down and forget how to do it again

[real cedar]

They'd be the type to kidnap and infect people with corruption just to turn them back and see how well they can perfect their process

And in that focus they'd definitely neglect to share their discovery with Hunters

[zenith perch]

The Mako skins are so good

[pearl abyss]

i can 100% see the other hunts, main the resercher, foaming at the mouth when he learns about it and finds out they forgot how to do it because they got shitfaced

alright since tarot cards seem to actally be magical in nature does that mean tarot card reading can be seen as a beloved skill for hunters?

[real cedar]

Idk about beloved. Each of the characters known specifically for tarot reading have been distrusted for one reason or another. Lynch, Pale Judge, and now The Hanged Man

[pearl abyss]

fair point. although imagine being the cops that had to hang the hanged man only to see he won't fucking die. at that point beat him with sticks as he hanging

[zenith perch]

Love how the demented have xp boosts

Demented stay winning

[strange bane]

Good morning Y’all! Let’s get tangled in some webs today lol

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hex-josh-brolin-thats-right-yes-yeah-gif-20996254

[spiral mica]

I think the majority of players will be looking not to get tangled in any webs.

[strange bane]

Haha, yeah I was trying my hand at some good ole irony

[earnest jungle]

We are so back

[real cedar]

Gives legendary hunter quotes
Can't play legendary hunters in soul survivor
What did they mean by this?

[granite shard]

when you pick the equipment type, that legendary hunter knocks you unconscious and you wake up in the bayou

[visual finch]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-margin-awake-marginskyrim-gif-20155428

[orchid tangle]

death mask doesn't even seem like a bad guy damn
trailer made him look like a fucking demon hunting people

[strange bane]

Death Mask goes very hard

[analog pendant]

Lil’ freaky😳😏

[vague frigate]

Maybe the tarot cards don’t predict the future they alter it

[vague frigate]

They’d probably just leave him up lol

When I was a kid my dad told me a story of a man they sentenced to “hang until dead”

Man hung for 11 minutes kicking and choking because the rope failed to break his neck

nobody was allowed to interfere

can’t remember if it was in Texas or Arkansas

Knowing things probably Arkansas cus of hanging judge Parker

[earnest jungle]

How old is/was your dad?

The last Public Hanging in Texas was in 1923 and the last Public hanging in Arkansas was in think in 1913

The last last public execution in the US was in 1936

[vague frigate]

not that old lol

he probably wasn’t there

I didn’t have internet at that time so all news old or new I got came from ear shot

[left summit]

I wonder what connection between nightseer and stormseer if any.

[granite shard]

none at the moment, strangely enough

[real cedar]

The markings on her jacket are the same as on the Night Seer, the row of eyes, the triangle in a circle.
Just grabbed some screenshots of the voynich written on her back, It's good enough to translate.

[granite shard]

anything interesting with that?

[real cedar]

"Lightning strikes as many times as you let it"

[noble scarab]

Kinda neat she was hunting with the turncoat at the time

And also that the banishing storm can have some physical effects

She’s lucky to have not gotten turned into something like the hellborn

[left summit]

Could she be the hunter who owns the lighting lebel?

Not on atm so I'm not sure the actual name for it.

[real cedar]

No, that belongs to the twitch streamer Geef. The gun used to be called Spring Chicken, now it's The Gallus Arm.

[left summit]

Oh ok didn't know that thank you.

[real cedar]

Watching the new Crytek documentary vid, I see they've got some Denix replicas in the office 💪 good taste

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all

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[real cedar]

Another interesting early prototype. Rifts were once hidden from sight, and you needed special tools to find them

I guess this is from the transition period between Horrors of the Gilded Age and Hunt Showdown when the witch was still on the table

[noble scarab]

#bring back the witch

[real cedar]

The Blood Sampler might be part of the reason all the earliest Tier 1-3s had vials on their bandoliers

In the dev room, chicken coops are labeled as KFC 😂

Oh man, pieces of the game bible

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-eyes-search-gif-10260318

This was definitely early on as the old water devil is still there

[fallow gorge]

Oh man this is an actually sick mechanic

[spiral mica]

There's an achievement for burning chicken coops called "Louisiana fried chicken."

[upbeat kiln]

That's so interesting. Fasih once explained to me that when he created the original narrative, his vision for how the player would view the world within the story of Hunt, was as if it was seen through one of those old pieces of glass for photography. Murky and distorted.

[earnest jungle]

There’s just something so genuinely fascinating to me when it comes to reading about scraped games/game mechanics.

It kinda feels like that at some point Hunt was going to be a lot like what HUNGER is aiming at especially when you look at the old road maps and scrapped stuff.

There was going to be crafting mechanics and hunter customization sort of like what we eventually got with Hunter Progression.

And the hammer-jack multitool implied a far more complex locking system and world interactivity than what presently exists.

It kind of makes me wish I could peer into an alternate universe where Hunt was a co-op action-adventure game just to see what it would have been like.

(Also I would pay out the ass for a Hunt spinoff that's a co-op/single-player story focused game)

[earnest jungle]

This map is funny given the Mountains of De Salle are evidently supposed to be in Southern Louisiana

Also I know suppsect that the original Fourth Boss from the 2018 Road Map was going to be the ghost witch which ultiamtely became scrapbeak

[strange bane]

That Documentary is immaculate!

So interesting seeing all the roots of the game laid bare

The cup overflowed with passion for sure

[earnest jungle]

Based on the boss concept art I’d place this at circa 2018/2019

Assassin was released in May of 2019 and both it and Boss Target 4 were on the road map for December 2018

Really really makes me want a witch/ghost boss.

[fossil tide]

If one legendary Hunter had to be chosen for the protagonist role in Hunt, who should it be?

Not sure if this is the right channel to ask this

[vagrant escarp]

Otis Blackwell methinks

[real cedar]

Otis Blackwell is basically tailor-made to be a poster boy for the game but I also think he doesn't have much character, the whole trio is more standing in for the players.
Sheriff Hardin has the right mix of being connected to everything, having an understandable progression from normal guy to Hunter which helps the audience delve into the world, having a proactive personality that causes drama, and having flaws he can either grow from or succumb to. You could easily turn him into a Jack Bauer type protagonist. Secondary main characters would be Harold Black, Felis, John Victor, Sofia.

[fossil tide]

If he wasn't Post Malone, The Deposed King would have a lot of potential imo. He already comes with his own cast of characters with Hyena, Desert Rose, Crossroads Walker, and the clowns, as well as having a connection to the Helios Stone.

[fossil tide]

Hardin is a great choice! Wish I had more to offer for discussing Hardin as a protagonist, but that is a great line of thought

[earnest jungle]

To be fair Hardin is also a much older and more established character

[real cedar]

True but I don't think they intend to do anything with the Blackwell trio aside from use them in promotional material

[earnest jungle]

Sure but they were also introduced at a time when narrative was actively being removed from the game

[fossil tide]

The Blackwell Trio do have the advantage that, because there isn't much to work off of them yet, they can be taken into any direction

In terms of arcs and characterization

[orchid tangle]

I think it'd be easy to like someone like hex breaker as the protagonist... if he got more lore anyway

[real cedar]

Looks like the two hunters we saw are going to be DLCs

[granite shard]

wonder if the order of the two dlc hunters is going to be the order in which they release

death's day feels like it needs to be an oct release

[real cedar]

Seems you were right, Dame of the Dead has a wishlist up right now

[granite shard]

OOOH

[real cedar]

New DLC! 🥳
It's just Vaquero's skins again

[granite shard]

SOFIA'S SISTER

[real cedar]

Oh it's another Prodigal Son

[granite shard]

yeah it's still a little like ??? how did sofia not know antonia survived but I think it messes w the crux of the story less than the prodigal son

like I guess there could have just been another body there that she thought was antonia and so the two can have a really sweet reunion and then bring up that question

[real cedar]

Oh no 😂 the DLC story is for the other character

They put Lilith's story on Antonia's page

[granite shard]

omg oh no

hopefully it gets fixed soon bc I wanna see my girl's lore

okay there we go

okay so it seems that sofia must have known her sister was alive then but I guess the rest of her family being murdered was still enough

[real cedar]

Seems like if Sofia hadn't had her visions she might've had the same realization that there was a body missing

[granite shard]

yeah

still shoehorned in but I think this is less egregious than the prodigal son bc it doesn't really fundamentally reshape sofia's story in the way he did to the prodigal daughter

also I think the fact that she has more of a unique look compared to him helps

TPS is just "the prodigal daughter. but a man" whereas dame of the dead feels more like her own thing with visual callbacks to sofia (skull makeup and red trim)

[real cedar]

It's definitely harder to stand out when the core theme is a uniform, ye

[granite shard]

I think I do wish that if they were gonna copy a weapon theme they'd go more in line w sofia's weapons for that familial connection

but I guess sofia got one of the vaquero's things awhile back

[real cedar]

It feels weird though that she's more insane than Sofia is, hunting through the swamps in a dress and full makeup and crown compared to Sofia's cowboy outfit with a veil and blackened eyes + scar to make the skull motif

[granite shard]

tbf she seems to get off on murder less

sofia's visually more tame but boy howdy did she enjoy cutting up those men a bit too much

[gilded umbra]

They are both snipers which is congruent. 🎯

They must’ve practiced shooting cans together in their backyard as adolescents.

[real cedar]

Antonia' story makes it sound like she just picked up a gun and learned to be a gunslinger on the way to the bayou, another miracle prodigy to go with the other 50

[gilded umbra]

They should make their father a hunter, similar to Pappy Redneck named Papi Chulo. 🪅

[granite shard]

I'd rather not have any more surprise alive sofia family members lol

she's already in for a rude enough awakening that her tattoo is wrong

[gilded umbra]

When I was a kid, it used to blow my mind how they’d do that in Marvel comics. I would take the death of a character so seriously and then they would sometimes return like nothing ever happened.

[analog pendant]

It feels very wow-factor-y

[earnest jungle]

Also like if four people murdered my family and then I had a vision of hell breaking loose and the spectral shade of death appeared before me and commanded me to rid the world of their evil I too would drop everything and run (If death was also a woman in my vision)

[spiral mica]

If I received a vision of Santa Muerte I'd want Mariachi playing in the background.

[analog pendant]

I like of thinking of La Muerte from the Book of Life

https://tenor.com/view/la-muerte-book-of-life-catrina-gif-7128374604401431515

[proud night]

🤤

[brazen root]

thank god

[zenith perch]

I want to have the Empress already

[strange bane]

Good Evening Y’all.

https://tenor.com/view/dracula-1931-bela-lugosi-black-and-white-horror-gif-10603075847256064464

[delicate ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/king-gizzard-king-gizzard-and-the-lizard-wizard-joey-walker-walky-jake-gator-gif-26972513

[bold ruin]

Ok so I’m reading over the Hanged man’s lore and god damn this guys seen every event, insanely cool design as well

Can’t be that good at getting away with crimes though seeing as he’s been sentenced to death 9 times lol

[analog pendant]

I’d say it balances out well bc of how good he is at not dying lmao

[dire drift]

Does the Empress have any connection with the Spider boss target? I thought we‘d be getting a spider boss in the bileweaver‘s nest after watching the trailer. It doesn’t feel very dangerous right now

[real dove]

no

the spider boss is a bunch of corpses fused together

the bilespoods are mutated real spiders iirc

[zenith perch]

Maybe the ritual gutting was at the hands of the demented?

[supple smelt]

@visual finch scammerino

[real dove]

👀

[strange bane]

Good afternoon Y’all

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[candid dock]

Tarot cards are permanent content?

[real cedar]

No word on that yet. The whole tarot mechanics are pretty involved, especially the locked extraction which relies on it, so I expect them to persist into future events but we just don't know.

[earnest jungle]

Could be but; unfortunately without more information on the ritual itself and to what end it was performed it’s impossible to say which faction is responsible.

Human Sacrifice is par for the course when it comes to occult dealings.

We can probably rule out some groups though.

If the first two verses of Web of the Empress are anything to go by the ritual may have had something to do with necromancy in which case we can safely rule out the death pact as that goes against everything they stand for.

They told me don't pretend
They told me it was fate
Then left me there for dead

They told me I was free
Then said to raise the dead
They told me I could leave
But what would break must bend```

Wyatt Preston’s Business Cabal have been known to perform human sacrifices, as have the Demented, Mr. Chary’s Infernal Pact, and the Lynch-Huff-Finch Triumvirate of the AHA.

The Night of the Hunt Cult is an edge case because their initiation rite entails ritual killing involves some form of head hunting.

[earnest jungle]

I cite it as an edge case because i’m not sure if the ritual is meant to harness the power of the spent life or merely prove the strength and worth of the initiate

[heady locust]

Where is this?
It's not on any map

[real dove]

they have (afaik) a few of these that are former locations and stuff from test/concept art

[spiral mica]

I've tried to find some sort of meaningful connection between Empress, spider boss, and the Demented pact, but because she doesn't really have any significant connection with the spider boss target, and since there's no mention of her actually being affiliated with them I'm going to assume she's something else entirely.

Plus, as Rai mentioned previously, the Demented pact don't exactly even need a Spider affiliated hunter since the Centipede seems to already embody the Spider in a metaphorical sense with how Spider breaks from the Sculptor's norm by being a arachnid as opposed to a insect, the Centipede breaks away from the Demented by embodying a Centipede instead of a Spider. As Rai put it; "They're both analogous to their kin, but also separate from them."

[gilded umbra]

I thought someone convinced The Centipede to leave the Demented pact for the Primal pact, or was it the other way around?

[real cedar]

Felis convinced her to leave, yeah

[granite shard]

That’s the case yeah, felis did

Damn rai beat me

[gilded umbra]

When I first read the bio of The Centipede, I thought she would morph into a new boss. It alludes to her becoming something.

[spiral mica]

I think that part of her bio just alludes to her breaking away from the Demented and joining the Primal. It's seemingly another metaphor for her journey instead of insinuating that she'd become something like a new boss. Although, I've had people speculate in the past that she was a tease at a potentially new centipede-themed boss target. This was mostly because Desolation's wake was immediately after the tides trilogy which introduced both the Demented as a group and the numerous hunters themed after boss targets in the game.

But none of that is to suggest I'd be opposed to a centipede-themed wild target or boss. I just don't think that's what was being conveyed in Centipede's bio.

[gilded umbra]

Yeah, that makes sense. She’s just getting more in touch with her primal nature. But a huge corrupted centipede boss would be incredible.

[gilded umbra]

Right, a new wild target would be even better.

I’m curious as to why we don’t have snakes in the game. Besides the Viper situation there’s no snakes. I think I saw someone here say they all ran away or were destroyed somehow.

[spiral mica]

I forgot exactly where I saw it suggested and it honestly could've been in this channel, but someone was talking about a wild target that hides in plain sight like inside one of the sound traps like the cows and horses. Imagine if some sort of parasitic centipede monstrosity burrowed it's way into the corpse of one of the horses or cows and upon interacting with it that initiates the fight with the wild target.

[dawn veldt]

Question does the game give in depth lore about why hunters only go in a pair of twos and why their considered fighting each other

[real cedar]

Yes, there's a whole story on the Rule of Two and how it was broken: https://huntshowdown.wiki.gg/wiki/Lore/REDACTED_Letter
As for why they fight each other, it's not as concretely explained but basically everyone wants the bounty and there isn't enough to go around so the psychos who are willing to fight monsters are often willing to kill people for them. That became the norm so most people shoot first rather than trust the other guy might not be a psycho.

[dawn veldt]

So is the rule of two like in star wars

[gilded umbra]

I was just thinking that, it reminds me of Sith.

[brittle patrol]

i´ve heard the game was designed for duo´s and the three player option was added later. It might explain why there are two bounty tokens.

i can imagine bounty hunting attracting people who are generally violent, opportunistic and willing to put lifes at stake for money. Also what happens in the bayou stays in the bayou....

[earnest jungle]

Felis and Centipede sitting in a swamp

K I S S I N G

[bold ruin]

Honestly idk how popular this opinion is but I love the demented pact and wanna see more of them in events, it’s kinda cool seeing the REALLY evil group even among the ranks of the hunters

[strange bane]

I got a jolt of emotion from finding this just now ^

[granite shard]

huh which hunter's hands are these? https://x.com/HuntShowdown/status/1972300266025459755

Hunt: Showdown (@HuntShowdown)

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X · Sep 28, 2025, 2:00 PM

I don't instantly recognize them but it might be a hunter I rarely play

[mint wind]

Look like Vincent ?

[real cedar]

I also had that feeling when I saw their hands

[mint wind]

Vincent Hayes, the dude on the right of the loading screen.

[real cedar]

Yup that's right

I just didn't remember the bracelet

He likes his side by sides it seems, in the 1896 Launch Trailer he used a Rival 78

[granite shard]

Oh cool

I don’t think I’ve ever run him haha

[real cedar]

I like how they're pretty consistent with the personalities of these three even in random promo images

[granite shard]

I don’t think I’ve ever run any of that trio tbh

[mint wind]

Otis is quite often used to me.

[noble scarab]

I like them, I just wish they had a hunter animation for them

[real cedar]

Kinda crazy that we haven't had a Mosin Bayonet skin since 2019, and a Mosin Sniper skin since 2020. Both finally got something new.
That's probably the biggest strength of the new agnostic skin style.

Oh damn, Avtomat also hadn't had one since 2020

[noble scarab]

The previous mosin bayonet skin was a trials reward too before 1896

[spiral mica]

I was hoping for some Maynard skins, but it is nice that they gave new skins to weapons that hadn't gotten them in a while.

[mint wind]

There's also no skin in the shop for the Vetterli deadeye.

[strange bane]

Good Evening Y’all

[dawn veldt]

Which pact is considered truly evil

[strange bane]

I would say Infernal , but to some degree there aren’t any true good natured hunters save a select group

Or two

Lol

[spiral mica]

I'd say Demented or Infernal too, but it honestly depends on your perspective or interpretation of things.

[dawn veldt]

Evil in terms on killing your own followers for failing a hunt

And does the game explain who the Empress is in the Empress of the web event

[mint wind]

Demented.

Infernal is evil because of Chary, but then only Chary is the really evil one there.

[strange bane]

Good morning Y’all!

I know this is a foolish question, but how much of a chance do Y’all reckon I have of getting the Union Suit if I max dark tribute daily for months? Surely doing it more evens odds somehow right? Haha

Sisyphus moment

[loud steeple]

Basically zero but not quite

[dawn veldt]

Will the game explain who the Empress is in the web of the empress event

[noble scarab]

Back when it was just bad hand as a drop I think it was below 1%

So with bad hand and 2 versions of union suit then I bet it’s lower than that

[dawn veldt]

Is it canon that lunar pact is at war with the infernal pact

[real cedar]

Her bio and the descriptions from her guns have explained as much as they're going to tell, I think.

The Lunar Pact was at war with the Infernal pact but that was back in 1895, nowadays both pacts have faded into the background as Chary is gone and Kevin is following Circe and Mary around as they start to hunt for Lynch.

[dawn veldt]

Isn't lynch the witch that killed the witch hunter family or is that old lore

[real cedar]

Yup, that's correct.

[dawn veldt]

Isn't the witch hunter have a ally in hexbreaker or something like that

[real cedar]

Yeah, she put out a call for help in her crusade and Hexbreaker answered

[dawn veldt]

I'm surprised sheriff Hardin didn't answer he hates Lynch

[real cedar]

Seems like he's more focused on leading the Lawful pact and discovering more about the Backers, he kinda shrugged when Sofia talked about the threat Lynch poses.

[dawn veldt]

Wasn't their a private eye and her partner supposed to "aid" sheriff Hardin

[real cedar]

They worked together for a time, yeah. Idk what Private Eye is up to in 1896 though

[dawn veldt]

Last I check she's part of the infernal pact with the burnt hazmat guy

Now is smuggler pact really the greediest and backstabby pact currently

[real cedar]

Definitely

[dawn veldt]

Why does the helmsman hate the rat

[real cedar]

It's never really explained, I think he's just a jerk

[dawn veldt]

Is the drowned pact at war with smugglers pact

[real cedar]

Not in the same way as Lawful vs Demented or Infernal vs Lunar, the Drowned just massacred the Smugglers for revenge. The new batch of Smugglers don't have any beef with the Drowned.

[dawn veldt]

Does death pact have beef with any others

[real cedar]

Just the Sculptor.

[granite shard]

they were going against the infernal pact in tide of corruption

at the moment tho doesn't seem like anything in particular

[dawn veldt]

Look I been out of the lore since rotjaw was introduced who I believe the alligator had sad lore

Do y'all believe lunar pact goal is righteous

[real cedar]

More or less, the Infernal pact doesn't have good goals but I also don't trust the Moon, the whole thing is weird

[granite shard]

I think the moon isn't super trustworthy but kevin himself is genuinely trying to do his best and the people fighting alongside him seem to generally on the "why the fuck are you trying to kill a fourteen year old child" side of things in regards to that conflict

[noble scarab]

The lunar pact did use something like the blood of innocent people as part of their rituals to weaken chary as I recall

[real cedar]

Not that I recall, it was just burning sage

[granite shard]

yeah to smoke chary out the bone doctor was making that

oleander soaked in the blood of an innocent iirc

[real cedar]

Was there blood involved?

[granite shard]

the weird sister wrote a letter about it

[noble scarab]

As smalls said I think they mixed it with the oleander to burn

It’s the stuff that let kev stick his hands into charys skull

[real cedar]

Ah ye now I'm re-reading

I wonder if Kevin gave his blood for it

[dawn veldt]

Which pact does lynch follower or is she just another pawn for chary

[noble scarab]

Lynch is her own thing

[real cedar]

Technically she created the Drowned Pact but she doesn't follow it, they were just pawns in her games

[granite shard]

wait no I'm wrong, the witch hunter wrote the letter detailing that, the weird sister just delivered it

[dawn veldt]

Like the unlucky gambler who was brought back to live by voodoo leader

[noble scarab]

Bad hand was rezzed by the night cult most likely

The trailer just used the bone doc as a stand in

[dawn veldt]

Why is Hardin considered cynical and sadistic

[real cedar]

Cause he is

[upbeat kiln]

"It's all going to end in a coffin, isn't it kid?"

[loud steeple]

He kills hunters once they are no longer useful to him

People he has hired

Iirc

[earnest jungle]

Imagine beefing with a middle schooler as a grown adult

Couldn’t be my goat Lynch

[granite shard]

I think she's beefing with sixteen years olds so like

she's not doing much better

[earnest jungle]

I really hope we get the twins as legendary hunters

[real dove]

SAME

Lunch as boss

Twins as hunters

Chary as a Kevin akin hunter who's been stripped of his powers

And now is forced to slog with the rest of them

Bonus if we get undead finch puppeted by lynch

[granite shard]

I don't really need chary to be stripped of his powers tbh

[real dove]

I want it tyvm

Eheheheh

Yes we have Kevin, I just think it would be fun

[granite shard]

like ultimately we have kevin who's playable who's at a level past most hunters so there's a gameplay-story segregation moment there

and chary I think would be fine with the same

like lynch is different just by virture of her not even being a human, but ultimately chary's human

[real dove]

Sure. But I think team chary vs team lynch would be cool, with lynch eventually becoming a fucked up monster under the sculptors control after she gobbled up too much power

Oh agred

Even if we got undead chary beaten by the moon then chary trying to recover his powers as 2 versions

I just very much don't want to see lynch as a hunter

[granite shard]

I just think undead people look kinda gross and I'd rather see proper chary

[real dove]

Fair. Bro has died a few times lol

Other is if the moon takes over him

[granite shard]

but also not in the same way as the other hunters, I think a lot of his appeal to me comes from the fact that he would look put together and polished enough but just a little bit off

[real dove]

Brands him and turns him into her puppet

[granite shard]

actively do not want that lol

[real dove]

Uncanny valley chary

[dawn veldt]

Is it canon that the reptilian killed his partner over a hunt

[tall vigil]

Giggity

[real cedar]

He killed his mentor when the alligators fled the bayou and they weren't getting money anymore

[dawn veldt]

Didn't his mentor son throw away the grudge when rotjaw attacked

[gilded umbra]

The trailer for the Cold Blooded DLC is still one of the best: https://youtu.be/7UG6uwhG5dI?si=kTi5KGH7DeSpXxQM

[earnest jungle]

I kind of want more stuff with Black Coat explaining his connection to the Twins, if he actually died, it that was just a mistake/exageration/creative liberty made by collins

Plot Holes/Continuity Errors/Retcons are not mistakes they are writing opportunities waiting for someone to take

[real dove]

Ngl I like the fact it's all up in the air. Imo it's fairly clear that collins just made some stuff up but I like not knowing

[dawn veldt]

How evil is the plague doctor and researcher

[restive temple]

So what’s the jist of the problem Ik we going monster hunting but why

[earnest jungle]

That’s the million dollar question now isn’t it: why is this happen?

The short answer is we don’t know; we know what’s happening and how it’s happening to an extent but the why of it is elusive.

It leaches into our world where the veil between realms is thin

Bubbling up as well springs and burning through the earth as flame burns parchment; twisting all it touches into monstrous forms

But what it wants and why?

Nobody knows

Perhaps it’s just a child making monsters out of human clay; perhaps it’s just a hungry beast that l wants to devour the world

It’s got a taste for suffering though: it’s drawn to it like as a bear is drawn to the scent of honey.

[proud night]

yeah basically eldritch entity infects creatures with the corruption and twists them into horrible monstrosities. kill big ones for money.

[upbeat kiln]

@tired spear - can you impale that guy?

alright he is already gone lol

[strange bane]

Good afternoon Y’all

[dire drift]

Is there a place to catch up on most Hunt lore? I know there’s a compendium doc but that is so much text and I don’t know where to start. Is there an overview video or audiobook or something?
I’m mainly interested in the „main story“ and everything that happened in the events

[granite shard]

honestly if you're interested in the events, the tides trilogy/desolation's wake/scorched earth should all have compilations of the audio version of the story on youtube

I think lore videos are cool but imo it's best to get started by going through yourself

I think another great idea is figuring out hunters you want to know more about and seeing if they have any relevant lore bits, bc a lot of them have book of weapon entries

[dire drift]

Thanks, I’ll do that. The events are on the official site…? but the Judgement of the fool is missing (or I searched in the wrong place?) or is there a specific collection of audios on YouTube?

[granite shard]

judgement of the fool unfortunately does not have event lore

[noble scarab]

Not true, it has 3 whole paragraphs

Which is currently more than both the garden and web events

[spiral mica]

Tbf the Harvest, garden, and circus events were during a time where we were in a bit of a lore drought.

Web event is still pretty early

[granite shard]

event lore*

*in the way established in the moon and tides trilogies

lol

my hope is that next year we get proper event lore again

[spiral mica]

I think we're all hoping for a return to event lore for sure. 🙏

[dawn veldt]

What was the worse event in y'all opinion

[granite shard]

The murder circus in terms of skins and stuff

[spiral mica]

I'd agree on it being the Murder circus. The skins were pretty meh for me and the theme and lore wasn't nearly as great as some of the other stuff we've gotten.

As for the best event I'd probably say it was Tide of Shadows or maybe Scorched Earth because of the new map and everything.

Desolation's wake was also pretty good and honestly the whole tide trilogy was great, but shadows was definitely my favorite.

I wasn't really around for much of the moon trilogy. As far as I can remember serpent and devil were alright.

[granite shard]

Devil’s moon was awesome

[spiral mica]

Anything from traitor moon and before is before my time with the game.

[granite shard]

Serpent was a slog imo

It had cool ideas but was hard to get through

Tide of corruption had my favorite story

[spiral mica]

Yeah, I remember serpents being pretty slow to complete. I think I played more during devils than serpent, but I didn't really start playing until tide of shadows.

It'd honestly be hard for me to pick a favorite story out of the tide trilogy since they all tie together. I also really liked the desolation wake story.

[noble scarab]

Traitors moon was the most meh

Not counting murder circus

[granite shard]

It didn’t really have a unique gimmick to it

Forever regret not finishing light the shadow

[noble scarab]

I enjoyed the snakes in serpents moon

I think another light the shadow style pass would be fun

Pick a path and switch it up once done

[granite shard]

Yeah

[spiral mica]

I wonder if there's someone out there who has played all the events and could make a definitive tier list?

[noble scarab]

I’ve played all but the first Halloween and Christmas ones

And the original twitch drops that had Billy

[gilded umbra]

I unlocked Billy Story from the challenges so technically he should be Mythic and not a Twitch drop.

[dawn veldt]

Besides death pact are there any other pacts that share the same goal to defeat the sculptor

[noble scarab]

Pretty much everyone but the demented

Some might have a more round about way of doing it tho. And chary wants to basically become the sculptor or something like it, which is technically working to defeat it, just in a backwards way

[mint wind]

Imo it was Harvest of Ghost. Although I ́d say it’s the worst event so far. Problematic stuff was added then.

[noble scarab]

Revive bolt

https://tenor.com/view/non-canon-dc-worldwide-gif-25576546

[mint wind]

And Maynard Silencer + Auto-4.

[real dove]

Revive bolt rnip

The others are here to stay :/

[mint wind]

I still don't feel like the MaySil is that problematic (either you nerf yourself by playing it optimally or you nerf yourself by playing in a more meta way and by the time the sniper weapon actually become annoying the silencer part was already not much of an issue anymore), although I think it would be good if the weapon became an Auto-3 instead.

[loud steeple]

It’s problematic in the same way (imo) traps are problematic. You make the fight very one sided and can dish out damage without it being returned

Until they spot you that is

[real cedar]

Oh shit, I think Port Sulphur Band is coming out with a new album in December

[granite shard]

👁️ 👁️

[real cedar]

There's a bunch of songs I've never heard of in the lore section, and the description on those says

"Beneath the Apple Tree"
Written by Port Sulphur Band
Publication December 10, 1896```
While the description for The Devil's Match songs is Vol 3, December 9 1895, and Sinner's Songbook songs Vol 2, December 10 1894

And the Hunt OST songs Vol 1, August 27th, 1894

[granite shard]

honestly it would make sense that we'd be getting a new album bc we've had quite a few songs release

I'm still curious to see what will be coming in the hunter page on the lore section

bc I think that's the last thing we're waiting for

[real cedar]

I'm surprised how many new ones there are:
Another Haunting
Beneath the Apple Tree
Bite the Bullet Part 1
Bite the Bullet Part 2
Devil's Door
Follow Me to Hell
Kiss the Ring
Three Lost Souls

[zenith perch]

Fire names

[dense stag]

For update 2.6/new event maybe?

[real cedar]

December 10th is when this event ends so it might be when the next one begins.
I wonder if one of those songs is the anthem for the next event and we just don't know it. If I had to take a random guess I'd say Kiss the Ring

[zenith perch]

I know they probably wont, but I really hope that the lairs and other event locations stay. Like change the loot around so you dont need pledge marks for them. Make them like a really supped up supply cart.

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all

[strange bane]

Good morning Y’all!

[mint wind]

Heyllo.

[noble scarab]

DLC is out

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3713760/Hunt_Showdown_1896__Deaths_Day/

Steam

Hunt: Showdown 1896 - Death's Day

This DLC contains one Hunter, two Weapon Skins, and one Consumable Skin:

- Dame of the Dead (Hunter)…

Price

$9.99

▶ Play video

Kinda wish we got the other dlc lady first

[granite shard]

I think bc she’s day of the dead themed they had to get her out first

[noble scarab]

True, I guess they’ll drop the other hunter closer to the end of the event which would be past the day of the dead

They could’ve also just released her for the dead of the dead

[granite shard]

I'd much rather her be a year round DLC than a time limited day of the dead hunter tho

[noble scarab]

Yea fair enough

[analog pendant]

Y’all remember when we used to get trailers for the DLCs? Pepperridge farms remembers

Lmao

[granite shard]

my guess is they've shifted the animation effort to the event trailers as opposed to the DLC trailers

does make me sad tho bc I miss the big trailers

[earnest jungle]

Same

[gilded umbra]

Is there an explanation in lore for this unfortunate situation?

[mint wind]

I guess someone died or was dying there, and got consumed by bugs in the process.

[zenith perch]

Yall think that The Hanged Man is buddies with Monroe and the Demented?

[loud steeple]

I think Monroe probably kills anyone that talks to him for more than 15 minutes

[zenith perch]

He was able to get along with Cain and the rest of the Demented

[noble scarab]

Monroe had a hunting partner for a bit too if I recall

[gilded umbra]

I was curious because it looks like a long tentacle wrapped around the torso. 🤔

[mint wind]

Nah it's just a regular hive mesh.

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all.

[loud steeple]

Good evening

[spiral mica]

I know trailers rarely indicate anything being canon, but if the most recent event trailer is anything to go by Hanged Man and Death Mask seem like good pals. Hanged Man's appearance does strike me as something Demented, but so does Empress's and I don't believe she has anything to do with Demented aside from the whole "she's our spider-themed hunter."

[thorn vector]

What what do you guys think Grover Cleveland is doing during the events of Hunt: Showdown

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all

https://tenor.com/view/john-marston-john-marston-smoking-john-marston-smoking-gif-26323964

[gilded umbra]

John Marston has 6 MMR.

[noble scarab]

Him and Arthur both

[strange bane]

Depends on if he’s had his deadeye tonics recently, or smokes

But I certainly agree partners

[loud steeple]

John’s 5

Arthur’s 6

[noble scarab]

Dutch is a 1

[brazen root]

It saddens me to say that Micah is a 6*

[loud steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/huntshowdown-gif-26584341

Sean

[earnest jungle]

This is how Armored are made (jk)

[earnest jungle]

Preventing the Free Silver movement from destroying the economy by flooding the market with over valued silver.

[thorn vector]

How will this affect the hunt dollar exchange rate

[earnest jungle]

The silver dollars are significantly overvalued compared to gold; they ate patently not worth the metal they’re minted with.

If you exchange a silver dollars for a gold dollar you would have effectively doubled your money due to the price of gold vs silver

[strange bane]

Good morning Y’all

https://tenor.com/view/john-marston-gif-27506472

[sour oasis]

If I recall correctly Devil’s Advocate has been dead as a doornail since Tides of Corruption?

[left summit]

In terms of being actually dead or just not around?

[sour oasis]

Being actually dead

Because I remember on an account I used to have I asked about that and I heard he was whacked

[real dove]

We aren't sure about any of the infernal team

But likely not dead

Unless I recall corruption wrong

[left summit]

Yes he died in an ambush during the infernal event by the Infernal Pact by the Death Pact if I recall correctly.

So canon wise yes he's dead unless they bring him back like they did with Rat and Kid.

[real dove]

He's not mentioned to have died

It's vague

Yeah they shot the shit outta everyone

But da isn't mentioned by name to have died so

[left summit]

Let me grab the source real quick.

[sour oasis]

I hope he didn’t straight up die, that’d suck

Such a cool character design and gone with the wind

Have any of the Infernal team been mentioned since this event or have they been somewhat absent from the lore?

[granite shard]

the lore has largely been absent

but I would be surprised if they're dead

they seem hesitant to fully kill off legendary hunters

[left summit]

Alpacalix is correct it never outright said he died but it was implied in a way.

[sour oasis]

He probably got more holes than Swiss cheese, but he ain’t 200% dead

[left summit]

look at Black Hand and Kevin, Rat and Kid they were brought back from the dead.

So never say never.

[real dove]

shrug they normally kill off whiteshirts and let the legends go. Possible they are still around. We will see as lore continues to return

SInce DA is technically an Xmas hunter, maybe in the winter

(i hope)

(I love my ADHD boy)

[sour oasis]

I love him, I’ve mained him since I ground my rear off for his Krampus LARP

[sour oasis]

Also what happened to the monster manual and stuff, I’ve been out of the loop for like 2-3 years

I remember playing when it was around and I’ve been getting back in and that things absent and I am sad

[noble scarab]

crytek said no more lore during the 1896 update

they have since put the lore on the website

[sour oasis]

Please tell me you’re joking

[noble scarab]

i wish i was

[sour oasis]

It’s so fucking over dude

It’s so fucking over

[noble scarab]

they have since walked that back a bit, we get lore back on the website and next year we might start to get event stories again

[sour oasis]

Good, thank fucking God

That’s such a lobotomite decision to basically screw over the lorehogs section of the community

[noble scarab]

and Rai keeps all the published stuff in a compendium that is pinned here

[sour oasis]

God bless him

God, i miss thé days of folk scrabbling lore together from random bits of disoriented notes

[noble scarab]

our boy HazmatFTW also has much of the lore summarized or dramatically read on his youtube page

[sour oasis]

I need to rewatch his videos, I have an unfortunate amount of this game’s lore crammed into my brain

I used to read the lore pages between matches to help feel less pissed

[noble scarab]

we got new stuff for the bear, which was pretty good, then approx 3 paragraphs for the judge vs fool event that was (IMO) not so good

[sour oasis]

I completely zoned out for that one, ignoring the fact that I wasn’t playing

I just didn’t like the hunter designs for that one, somewhere between a 16 year olds Deviantart OC, a slipknot album and Dark Knight Joker

[noble scarab]

we got the jonkler

[sour oasis]

I liked the Judge, but fucking nobody actually read the book

I never watched the Wendigoon video, i took my time to read Blood Meridian, did I find out about it from the video? Yes. Did I go buy it like two minutes into the video? Yes

[noble scarab]

the judge is at best a vague reference to Blood Meridian, buddy isnt terribly similar

sadly

[sour oasis]

It’s similar in design lowkey but I agree wholeheartedly

Saw the design and was like “oh, that’s neat”

Then saw the joker dude and he reminded me of AHS and I kinda clocked out from there

[noble scarab]

i like his outfits at least

the mask is a bit much

[sour oasis]

Outfits lowkey drippy, mask’s cringe

honestly his whole entourage is cringe

I don’t know why but it just sets off the part of my noggin that gives me the same disgust that edgy OC’s draw with shit skill does

[noble scarab]

yea there's something about it

[sour oasis]

It’s trying too hard

That’s what’s about it, it’s trying waaaaaaaay too hard

Subtlety is key, it’s like if Turncoat was waving a confederate flag

It’s telling, not showing

Speaking of which, Turncoat’s absolutely a confederate veteran

Lots of former Confederates fled West after the ACW

[noble scarab]

A few of the former tiered hunters probably were as well, they had the coats at least

[sour oasis]

Based, glad to see Hunt isn’t ignoring the Southern Soldiers

I’ll keep running DA, but as a history major I think it’s neat

https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864

Cause I know that one “hired” (former Tier 3) hunter with the eyepatch is absolutely a confederate Vet, he’s got the old Cavalry hat

If you don’t rock a dual Lemat and Cavalry saber on him what on God’s green earth are you doing

[zenith perch]

I forgot how much drip Shade: Drifter has.

I was excited for his lore from the Scorched Earth trailer

[orchid tangle]

and then we got nothing

https://tenor.com/view/no-disappointed-smh-shake-my-head-oh-brother-gif-11563007531601506052

[spiral mica]

I liked Scorched earth, but man if it wasn't disappointing in some areas. We didn't really get a full picture on what was going on at Grizzly lodge (though we can certainly assume.) We didn't get more lore on Thomas Bridge nor did we get him as a narrator for the Wilderness pact. Certain hunters like Shade, Shroud, and Gouge weren't even mentioned in the event story.

There wasn't much emphasis on the whole Bee and Pig side of things and at the end of it all Hayali kind of just dips to somewhere. None of the other pacts were mentioned much despite most of them seemingly having made their way to Colorado except for the Drowned who stayed behind in Louisiana to make sure everything was fine.

Plus, it didn't help that when Scorched earth was over thats when our little lore drought began. It wasn't until recently that we finally started to recieve some lore again.

[gilded umbra]

Does The Hanged Man belong to The Death Pact?

[strange bane]

When do y’alk reckon we will get another Twitch Drops? Lol

[strange bane]

No clue, I assume he may be pact - ose intolerant

Ba dum tiss

[real cedar]

Late October seems likely, they've done a twitch drops in the fall season every year since 2021. November 24th, Oct 12th, and Oct 25th x2 were the past start dates.

[strange bane]

Good Evening Y’all

https://tenor.com/view/john-marston-john-marston-smoking-john-marston-smoking-gif-26323964

Deadeye Tonic consumed

[zenith perch]

I see him as demented personally

Like Monroe

[sturdy ridge]

Guessing he's Grounded and more of an observer figure for now, at least it's implied with his connection to the tarots and how he was warned about the Empress

[crimson dock]

are the revenant and turncoat associated with any pact?

[granite shard]

revenant was tied to the infernal pact and turncoat was tied to grounded, both in devil's moon

neither of them have had an active role in any narrative, they were just part of pact bundles

(turncoat also popped up in the group silhouette in the trailer for the pact)

luna/dire wolf, lonely howl, infected, archeologist, ronin, reptillian, perchta, billy story, black coat, phantom, carcass gunrunner, cain, plague doctor, seventh son, and teche wraith I believe are all the hunters there

[crimson dock]

Thank you!

[granite shard]

of course!

that group silhouette was really nice to have in that trailer since it let us see where different event and blood bond hunters went since they weren't included in the DLC bundles

shows how fluid the pacts were too since black coat was later tied to the infernal pact after initially being with the grounded

[noble scarab]

Infernal probably paid better

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all

https://tenor.com/view/rdr-red-dead-redemption-rdr2-john-marston-hello-chat-gif-25842888

[analog pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/spazcat-nibby-kissy-spaz-cat-sleepy-cat-gif-13233844682902189881

[haughty haven]

Do the zombies have any kind of motivation e.g. eating brains? Or are they just completely mindless and motivationless

[spiral mica]

It's been a minute since I've read the full grunt lore, but apparently they're fully conscious people unable to control their own actions.

[sour oasis]

I’m 90% sure that’s it

[noble scarab]

They’re conscious and sometimes carry things from their previous existence like the torches or cleavers

They also are copied over and over again, presumably being forced to relive their deaths and rotting existence

[fickle sluice]

Yeah they are fully aware of what's happening to them and what they are doing to others but they have zero agency in this and are basically trapped inside their own rotting bodies. They are probably perpetually in pain from the decomposition and missing parts and in terror because of the horrific things they are driven to do. Imagine having to feast on decaying horse flesh just to get absent-mindedly decapitated by a passing hunter who is probably unaware of your plight

The nature of grunts is one of if not the bleakest and most horrifying part of Hunt's lore to me.

[brittle patrol]

Is the zombies not attacking eachother just game-technical or is there another explanation for that?

[mint wind]

They're smarter than the basic zombie, hence why the game refers to them as "grunts". They're just looking out to feed on the living.

[brittle patrol]

is that because fresh meat is more delicous and nutricious or does the sculptor made them target the living?

[noble scarab]

The sculptor does it

They’re kinda alive but in a different way, their insides are fueled by weird bug corruption juice

[brittle patrol]

I was rather surprised the game refering to them as grunts. i assumed it had to do with them being the most common monster around. Maybe some kind of jargon used by Hunters

[noble scarab]

Grunt kinda means the lowest level employees or soldiers

So it makes sense

[brittle patrol]

so they are not technically undead?

[noble scarab]

Yes and no

They died but are revived by the sculptor

They have blood and a beating heart that is this new circular organ that pumps the insect blood juice through them

It also contributes to their flammability

[brittle patrol]

a beating heart is often associated with being alive.

[fickle sluice]

the maggots you see when you kill them are not just there because it looks gnarly

[noble scarab]

You can also stop the process somehow and reverse it

The new death mask hunter was a grunt but he was brought back

[brittle patrol]

oh, i never thought about that

[loud steeple]

Doesn’t the Hunter innoculation prevent gruntification

[noble scarab]

The infected also manages to stave off the infection/conversion

[brittle patrol]

beautiful word 🧟

[noble scarab]

It helps, but we’ve seen it doesn’t always grant 100% protection

[fickle sluice]

yeah, but that seems to be neither pleasent nor easy to do

[noble scarab]

Most likely it’s not

The corvids do seem to create enemies tho so he might have other motivations

[brittle patrol]

many of the monsters seem to be associated with bugs. Hives, Grunts, Assassin, Meathead. Armored seem to be covered in chitin

also the beetles and the new spider creatures represent this bug-idea

[noble scarab]

The sculptor is an insectoid lovecraftian abomination

[fickle sluice]

IIRC the beetles at first were something that happened in the wild and were later bred

[fickle sluice]

I thought we never really got an explanation of what the sculptor "really" is.

[noble scarab]

We don’t but that’s about as close as we can get

[fickle sluice]

it certainly is a reasonable assumption

[noble scarab]

It’s also got that azathoth blind idiot god thing going on

It’s lucky the aha is corrupt and incompetent

[fickle sluice]

it's been a while since I forced Horrible Phobias Lovecraft upon myself. Please elaborate

[noble scarab]

Forgive me I just copied this from Google, Azathoth is a mindless, uncaring entity that is unaware of its own existence or the universe it has created

The sculptor is similar in that it doesn’t have any direction or intent

It is vaguely attracted to horrific acts or corruption but once its there it just fills the target full of its corruption or worms or whatever then fucks off

It also can’t really create new things, it can only copy or corrupt

[vague frigate]

Why is the kid and the tren coat fighting in promo materal and some trailers

i missed old events so i am not sure of the lore of them

[fickle sluice]

@noble scarab Okay, now I get whhat you mean. Yeah, kinda

[noble scarab]

Just to show off the hunters and event stuff, I don’t think they’ve ever had a solid reason to fight

[vague frigate]

ah so no in universe rivalry or anything?

[noble scarab]

Don’t think so

They were featured mostly in the traitors moon event which focused on chary and our boy kev

Rai would likely know for sure but I believe the turncoat only has the 1 lore mention in this current event, hunting with the storm seer lady

Otherwise I can’t recall him being featured anywhere outside of promos

[real cedar]

Yeah, the early event stuff with Traitor's Moon didn't have hunter-focused lore, they were just set dressing.

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all

https://tenor.com/view/red-dead-redemption-john-marston-hello-boys-hi-boys-video-games-gif-17839126

[zenith perch]

Howdy

[zenith perch]

I unlocked the Empress now, but I am not sure how I feel about her weapons anymore

[dense stag]

Do you smart lore guys have any idea about the upcoming Port Sulphur Band album titles? Many new songs and somehow connected to previous events as far as I understand (Beneath the Apple Tree - The Orchard of the Hanged Man)? I think its fair to assume that the event with 2.6 will arrive at 10th or 11th of December

[noble scarab]

We talked about it a bit ago when they announced the new album

And some of those song lyrics might be on the website

[dense stag]

Got a link by any chance to the messages? Missed it

[noble scarab]

Let me try and find it

[dense stag]

Tysm!

[noble scarab]

#lore-discussion message

Starts here, there’s not too much

[dense stag]

Thanks!

[acoustic whale]

what's sculptor's main goal

to take over the world?

[brazen root]

to reach one million monthly listeners on spotify

[spiral mica]

Sculptor probably would be a talented musician.

[acoustic whale]

is he a beatles fan though

[strange bane]

Good Evening Y’all

[warm lagoon]

yes, this is canon

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all

[strange bane]

Hope everyone has a great weekend, happy Friday Y’all ! Cheers

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-morgan-arthur-morgan-drinking-lenny-summers-arthur-morgan-lenny-gif-10267207909658537716

[clear mortar]

I have a question can you guys give me some legendary hunters that are apart of the AHA ?

[real dove]

Hardin and Marshal were off the top of my head

[granite shard]

Marshall brewer and the researcher

The witch hunter was mainly tied to the New York branch

[real dove]

hex was too right

same faction

[granite shard]

Yeah

[real dove]

technically most of the OG hunters are AHA

in some way

trying to recall who else has been named

where is Rai

carcass gunrunner got them guns

skinflint kept a ledger but not sure he's part of them

[clear mortar]

Are there any legendary hunters who aren't apart of any faction/pact/group ?

Ones that are completely solo?

[real dove]

Hm. Maybe the Captain, he was pretty hated by all but he was technically in a faction

the revenant hasnt been officically in a pact, minus the trailer for infernal

[clear mortar]

is there any recent hunters part of the aha

[real dove]

no, as the AHA collapsed with finch

at least the version we knew in NOLA

theres other organizations out there

like the gulch moneybags

who sponsored the statesman and hardin

[gilded umbra]

Bourbon Street DLC when? 🍹

[spiral mica]

Weren't Private Eye and Hawksaw Jack also part of the New York branch?

Or maybe they were just detectives in New York I can't really remember.

[granite shard]

I think they were just detectives but I could be wrong

[loud steeple]

I seem to recall them being from New York as well

[noble scarab]

They were not Pinkertons

[real cedar]

Recent hunters that are both not mentioned to be in a group and seem unlikely to join any groups:
Skull Taker, Angel of Death, Servant of the Void, Crossroads Walker, Plains Warden
Technically Ghost Face too but I try to pretend he doesn't exist.

[sour oasis]

I pretend he and the whole Post Malone thing don’t exist

[granite shard]

Mood

[strange bane]

Good morning Y’all

[visual finch]

I don't want to appear rude my friend, but there's no need to greet every time you come down in lore, if your whole contribution to the channel will be that. Feel free to greet the day in #off-topic, that's more than welcome 🙂

[strange bane]

I love the lore channel, thought since everyone would talk about anything lore related and sometimes chat about other stuff that a simple greeting would not only be welcomed but not go against any rules. I did not realize that I was not only breaking rules but getting on everyone’s nerves, my apologies

Will stop sending stuff here if it isn’t lore related, for the last time cheers to the best channel

insert comment about Ghost Face here

I have discussed other stuff here and even made a discovery, however that don’t matter lol

[visual finch]

thanks

[strange bane]

People would even reply and react, however I assume someone came to you or you find it offensive or a breach of rules

My apologies, will stop wasting vital channel time on non lore

Now, on to something else. What are the lore implications of the Hunters who actually supported each other during the main events? Like, the popular thing to do was take a side and kill everyone in-betwixt. Would the non pact hunters fall under that umbrella? The ones who just wanted to support each other and got killed for it or maybe survived?

[tall lava]

Chill, all we're asking is that the channel remains for lore discussion as the name implies instead of a place for people to just come say hi and not much else

This really isn't that big of a deal

[strange bane]

Fair enough

I didn’t think I was breaking rules at all, and even would bring any lore questions or discussions I had here

[visual finch]

If you feel you need to discuss this, feel free to dm @light quail

[strange bane]

I feel my musings will be ignored in other chats lol , so I will go back to simply observing

Alright, apologies

Favorite legendary hunter?

[visual finch]

Butcher's Cleaver

[strange bane]

Mine are Corvid Bile, Drowned Kid, Hanged Man, Union Suit, and Black Coat

Among others. Hard to choose, the devs outdo themselves on the designs and lore

I know I am a bit of an outsider here, am just a humble console player and I don’t have a bunch of fancy tags on my name so I will stay in my place. Lol cheers and sorry

Butcher’s Cleaver is awesome, very demented and fitting of the faction he led

I wish they were more clear on wether he was dead or not lol

Some things aren’t meant to be explained though

[visual finch]

I think he was, devoured, but i can't recall where it happened

[strange bane]

He was devoured by bees , executed by the Scourge Midian and Morrigan

I just said what I said because of the “Pig” Demented character from Scorched Earth

Look…he actually reads the lore lol

[visual finch]

Wasn't it by the Cowl?

[strange bane]

But is a cool character, used to do impressions of his voice from the trailer of him talking lol

It was all three if I remember correctly. Cowl was there , Scourge made him take the knee

I could be wrong. Has been a year or so lol

But yeh, didn’t mean to offend you specifically or make you feel the need to execute me butchers cleaver style lol

Will stop with that, I can tell I have a losing hand

Once greetings make it into lore I will be back

[strange bane]

Hey look , I’m back up here poking my head out already! Do Y’all reckon Death Mask is another scenario like Prodigal Son? Will he actually try to get revenge on the Corvids or will they talk it out? This is lore ! Lol bonus:
h o w d y

https://tenor.com/view/john-marston-john-marston-smoking-john-marston-smoking-gif-26323964

[noble scarab]

Justice for syndi, but I bet it’ll be a bit before we get any resolution, however I’m happy to see that the birds are actually doing something

Hopefully we get a reference to the OG plague doc too

[strange bane]

My thought process is that we might get a resolution if and when they bring back Plague Doc updated, like they did with the Skinner and Scaled Warrior

Maybe have some hints to it in his lore

I will be supplying my daily greetings in the off topic now , cheers Tib and chat lol

What other hunters are Y’all excited to see return updated? Similar to Scaled Warrior/ The Skinner

I’m most hyped to see how they update the vibes of Plague Doc and the False Saint , Kevin mah boah

If that even is going to happen, if it ain’t I’m manifesting it

We want full moon Kevin or healed moon kevin

There are people in this chat who would pay for him no hesitation lol

[spiral mica]

Do we know the name of Skinned's father? And can anyone tell me if Skinned's father was the aforementioned mentor/partner that Reptilian murdered out of greed? I forgot if that was ever confirmed or not.

[granite shard]

I can’t remember if we know his name but yeah he was the reptilians mentor slash partner

[clear mortar]

Does Worm Bite work for anyone? Like is he apart of the aha ?

[real cedar]

Skinned's father is Frank Gravel, it's mentioned in the DLC blurb

[real cedar]

He's aligned with the Death Pact, and before that he seemed to work inside the incursion as an undertaker, as he crudely wrote his own moniker over an undertaker's business sign in Stillwater Bend. No idea whether he started this business before or after the corruption spread. He might've been recruited by the AHA, or he might've found his way into the Hunter's community some other way.

[clear mortar]

I also have a request for anyone that is willing to help/just wants to show off there lore knowledge
Can someone whose willing name all the legendary hunters in the game that are apart/associated with the AHA?

[clear mortar]

Ahhhhhhhh ok thanks

[noble scarab]

I mean the aha is dead

[real cedar]

Almost all Hunters introduced before 2023 or so can be considered associated with the AHA, as they were recruited by the association and sold their bounties to the AHA's administrator, Finch. The Bloodlines trailer showcases this fairly well - though videos aren't perfectly canon - it depicts most hunters having an AHA file. Basically anyone that could be called a capital H Hunter was an AHA Hunter, until the organization broke down and people became independent operators.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oNZd6DW8Ac

As for Hunters with properly known connections to the AHA (I'm only going on memory & bios so I might miss some that had confirmation in Book of Weapon stories):
John Victor: Prestigious agent of the AHA that recruited and trained Hunters.
The Black Coat: associate of AHA member Lynch, member of Infernal Pact (ran by AHA administrator Orwell Chary)
Carcass Gunrunner: had dealings with everyone, including AHA
The Bone Doctor, The Reverend, The Night Seer, Sheriff Hardin: Early leaders of the first factions when the AHA began to split apart. Hardin was trained by Lynch.
Marshall Brewer: Joined the AHA to investigate its inner circle.
The Researcher: Did early research on the corruption for the AHA
Redneck: Confirmed recruited by the AHA
The Skinflint, Devil's Advocate: Infernal Pact members
Norther Star & The Sovereign: Recruited by AHA Director Huff and smuggled in by Carcass Gunrunner
The Reptilian: Confirmed recruited by the AHA, including a documented recruitment trial.
Sofia: Confirmed initiated by the AHA
The Witch Hunter: New York AHA member
Hawkshaw Jack & Private Eye: Infernal Pact members, also worked with Sheriff Hardin
The Prescient: Worked with a shadowy sect of the AHA
The Penitent: Confirmed recruited by AHA
Burnt Marshall: Infernal Pact member
You can also assume the people associated with these characters were by proxy associated with the AHA.

[spiral mica]

Alright thanks. I couldn't remember for sure.

[spiral mica]

Also thanks for the name. I couldn't remember that either.

[strange bane]

Anyone ever wonder what the corvids look like underneath the mask?

[gilded umbra]

Maybe they’re deformed from being exposed to their own experiments. 🧪

[strange bane]

I like that interpretation

I wanted to think they either looked like that, or just human but very hollow. Thousand yard stare and all

Pale, deathly so

Pale enough to reflect in moonlight or sunlight

To the point they cover themselves up completely so as to better blend in

[worthy fern]

Jane did…

[icy violet]

Are there any monsters in other part of the world in Hunt universe? Considering that monsters exist in every culture.

[worthy fern]

Not that we know, the lore is that an entity known as “the sculptor” has released The Corruption in Louisiana in 1895, which turned people and animals into monsters. The Corruption is being contained and sort of kept under wraps by the US government, so it stands to reason if it’s happening elsewhere in the world it’ll also be being covered up

[icy violet]

So there is a possibility that other part of the world also has their own Hunt: Showdown. It would be interesting to see other part of the world mentioned in the lore in the future. Doesn't have to show it explicitly, just something we can ready.

[worthy fern]

If they did, it would probably be small references like hunters coming from other corruption spots to help Louisiana, but I suspect crytek don’t want to expand the lore much, a major factor of the story is how small and tightly controlled this whole event is

[granite shard]

Other regions have their own things going on

North Star and the sovereign had been fighting monsters in China and specifically came to help out in the US to see if there were any techniques they could take back to China to help out there

There had also been things happening elsewhere in the past— in tide of corruption Mr chary learns abt this using the murmurstone

[icy violet]

Sad that Crytek doesn't want to expand the lore much. The Hunt universe could work with how many monsters we have in real life.

[real cedar]

The cool thing is that Crytek has largely avoided using real myths for their monsters. There's rumors in the lore of thunderbirds, teche snakes, demons, will-o-the-wisps, but the main things we know to be real are witches and British black shucks, and the only thing the game is willing to show is the sculptor's corruption. It helps Hunt have a strong identity.

[spiral mica]

I think the hunt mythos definitely has real myths, stories, and monsters that inspire it, and there's of course all the mentions of them in the descriptions, but I also agree that, by in large, the writers have done an exceptionally great job at distinguishing everything. As Rai said it really helps serve the unique identity that Hunt has as a game.

[gilded umbra]

Crytek: please make a narrated story for the next event. The story for Scorched Earth was amazing. Thanks.

[strange bane]

Agreed!!!

[spiral mica]

I think Scorched Earth could've been handled differently personally. I don't think it was outright bad, but there were some things I think that could've been done better.

If their approach to a narrated event story is more like what we saw during the tide trilogy and desolation's wake then we'll be in good hands.

[gilded umbra]

I mentioned the story for Scorched Earth because it was the last time a narrated story was made. But overall I think it was great. What about it do you think could’ve been better? I just think it should’ve been a little bit longer.

[clear mortar]

So which pacts and characters are actively trying to stop the corruption?

[real cedar]

Of the pacts, the Death Pact, Drowned Pact, and Lawful Pact take the most aggressive stances against the corruption. The Death pact does it in a more subtle way by focusing on the background paranormal sources like the Sculptor and Lynch, while the Lawful Pact is the most heavy-handed in trying to physically contain and destroy the Sculptor's creations, as well as maintain order among the Hunters. The Drowned Pact is quite small but they're also supernaturally strong and are the main group that stayed behind to maintain containment of the Bayou while others went to Colorado.

Other pacts that work towards stopping the corruption include the Grounded Pact (they don't take sides in infighting but they still want to defeat corruption either as a matter of payment or for their homes) the Wilderness Pact (they're just the Grounded Pact for Colorado, and are allied with the Lawful Pact with some conditions), and the Primal Pact (they care more about the Hunt itself than solving the problem but by nature of Hunting they help the cause).

The two pacts that aren't exactly stopping the corruption are the Demented Pact and the Smugglers Pact. The Demented worship the sculptor and Hunt as a way of destroying lesser creations, in the hope that the Sculptor will elevate them if they prove their worth. If given the chance to finish things for good, they would not take it. Similarly, the Smugglers are looking for profit from the Hunt. They're almost like the Primal in that they are reducing numbers but since their only goal is profit, they may just continue the Hunt indefinitely as a way to sell bounty tokens.

The Lunar Pact and the Infernal Pact don't seem to exist anymore. Chary and the AHA are gone so no Infernal, and the Lunar Pact only existed to stop Chary from hurting the Moon so they've dissolved into the other pacts.

[keen mirage]

What do you mean by "the AHA are gone"? I'm lagging a bit behind in the lore, since I stopped for a bit and picked the game back up during the last event.

[real cedar]

Devil's Moon Chapter 14 and Tide of Corruption tell the tale of the AHA fracturing under the weight of the pact infighting, and finally being dissolved with the death of Finch and the banishment of Chary. It seems to be implied in the custom ammo notes from a researcher in the future looking back at this time that the AHA reforms at some point, but currently there's no true leadership among the Hunter's community and someone else besides the AHA stepped in to keep paying bounties, the mysterious Backers.

I was kinda in denial about it for a while but the online archive's summary of Desolation's Wake makes it pretty final:
Sherriff Hardin welcomes The Statesman, who is connected to the mysterious Backers who have come forward to pay bounties following the death of Finch and the AHA.

[noble scarab]

there cant be too many of the smugglers left running around, between the drowned tearing them apart and what feels like a reduced amount of goods being thrown around

[real cedar]

They popped their head back up for Harvest of Ghosts with Pappy Redneck, Kendoka, and Carcass Gunrunner being new members. They haven't actually shown up in the story yet but they could still be a thing in the future.
Between the backers paying bounties and Preston giving the location of several backer caches, there's probably still a good amount of treasure to be gained.

[noble scarab]

i honestly forgot about harvest of ghosts mentioning them

[keen mirage]

By the way, which of the legendary hunters are dead in the lore, excluding Dorothy, Revenant and the Judge?

[noble scarab]

kendoka and pappy redneck seem like such random additions to that pact tho

[real cedar]

Kendoka's only lore is that he stole treasure from a warlord and went overseas with it, so it seems like he's naturally greedy

Pappy Redneck is a moonshiner so he might be on the business side of smuggling rather than the treasure hunting side

[noble scarab]

we see his special barrels all over each map, but who knows whats asset reuse and whats meant to be there

[keen mirage]

Maybe he decided to both smuggle moonshine and if possible, even snatch some bounty along the way.

[noble scarab]

captain laffite is dead on various levels and likely not able to come back, maybe billy (but he could be back or not dead at all), gar is chilling in the land of the dead, and thats about it

everyone else could come back

most of the infernal pact was shot up at the end of desolation, but that doesn't mean much

[strange bane]

What happened to Billy?

[real cedar]

Billy Story might be the guy that Sofia killed in one of her Book of Weapons stories, but he might not be. There wasn't any defining characteristics besides the name present

I'm hesitant to believe it cause idk if Crytek wants one of their playable hunters to be a gang rapist

[granite shard]

I asked abt it once but the response was just “NDA unfortunately” so there might have been plans to follow up on that at some point

But that was a couple of writing team shuffles ago

[keen mirage]

Do we even know if the Judge will come back though? Because if so, Redmartin making him carve himself to death would just be pointless, since he'll return, pissed.

Likewise, the Judge killing him would be pointless, unless neither took the serum. But then he wouldn't be able to hide in the deadzone, as I get it.

[noble scarab]

the whole judge vs fool thing was kinda pointless lore wise

and will likely not have any impact on the larger story going forward

[strange bane]

So billy was fully named there ? Or he was just a guy named Billy? Lol

Thank you Rai

[noble scarab]

it just said Billy in that passage

Billy and his gang

which sounds like Billy, but also it could just not be him

lots of Billys out there

[keen mirage]

It was a nice concept, but with the way the Hunters work, it is pointless indeed. It's a perpetual cat and mouse game, over who gets to cripple the other worse.

[sour oasis]

So it was filler effectively

[noble scarab]

You could say that about the last few events lol

[clear mortar]

So which playable hunters are fully dead in the lore? Besides like the judge ?

[real cedar]

Captain Laffite and Gar. There's some other MIA from the massacre at the end of Tide of Corruption but nothing definitive.

[clear mortar]

Also what's the story with the death mask hunter ?

And the hanged man ?

[noble scarab]

Death mask was dead and zombified but he got better, and the hanged man is immune to hanging, but they keep trying

[clear mortar]

Who are they associated with ?

[real cedar]

Death Mask is part of the Death Pact as well as associated with the Corvids, and Hanged Man is on his own, the leader of a nameless pact the same way the Fool and Judge were leading their own groups.

[limpid bobcat]

the rat and the kid, as they got ""drowned"", but that depends of your definition of the word dead

black coat got killed in the past but the narrator was unreliable and apparently he's still alive

[noble scarab]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3713770/Hunt_Showdown_1896__Cry_of_the_Caged_Bird/

Steam

Hunt: Showdown 1896 - Cry of the Caged Bird

This DLC contains one Hunter, two Weapon Skins, and one Consumable Skin:

- Lilith (Hunter)

- Nightjar’s Swoop (Krag)…

Release Date

Oct 20, 2025

▶ Play video

DLC listing for the new goth cowgirl

She’s involved with the pale judge

Or was I guess

[spiral mica]

Gar and Drowned Rat welcome her with open arms.

[vocal terrace]

Y’all notice it calls her a familiar face? Is that not like referring to her being an existing character or something?

And if so who?

[noble scarab]

She was in the event trailer

And was popular in that, so I bet it’s referring to that

[orchid tangle]

yeah thats how I took it

[loud steeple]

Yeah It’s probably just because people have been asking non stop when her dlc is coming out for the last month

[keen mirage]

Who was in the Fool's gang? We know Silver Spur, Ambrose and the Sheriff were with the Judge, but I don't remember anyone siding with the Fool, aside from Dorothy (I don't get why, he killed her anyway).

[orchid tangle]

in promo art he was teamed up with... gourge? is that their name?

huh

interesting blocked word, he looks like the armor of thorns dude from dark souls

[noble scarab]

The lady corvid too as I recall

[strange bane]

I know he’s rather edgy and Joker Esque, but I enjoy the mad hatter aesthetic of Doc Redmartin. Also appreciate the vibe of bringing established characters to the light and making them playable

Mayhaps he is foreshadowing that they are thinking of doing that for some more established characters?

I reckon they also kind of did that with Captain Lafitte

[real cedar]

Lafitte was introduced with Tide of Shadows and then revealed halfway through Tide of Corruption so I imagine the character concept was already in the production pipeline when the ToS story was written.

[orchid tangle]

liliths backstory is almost verbatim what my first dnd character was lol

[gilded umbra]

It’s a natural 20. 🎲

[zenith perch]

Honestly kinda same too, I think I have a new main

[remote dust]

Anybody here who makes H:S ocs?

[loud steeple]

You’re better off checking in #902704506884751381

[remote dust]

Thanks! Also, there is one thing I'm uncertain of

Are all the hunters cursed? And that's how they have the ability to sort of wield magic and use dark sight?

[loud steeple]

I’m no lore expert but they all get an inoculation before they can be hunters that afaik gives them the dark sight powers and stops them from turning into zombies

Could be totally wrong though there are far more qualified people in this channel that will probably correct me

[remote dust]

It was a black looking liquid wasn't it?

Either case, thank you

That clarifies it enough for me for now

[loud steeple]

Yeah it’s in some of the game trailers

[remote dust]

I only know it from the Rise Up Dead Man video where there were lyrics

If I may gun-tism a tiny bit

I will say I love how the game shined a light on the Colt Open Top

Or the Conversion revolver in-game

Most games that use Colts made before the 1873 defer to the 1851 Navy, or less often the revolvers that came right before or right after it

But not many games show the Open Top, which is fair enough, they were a stop gap meant to use up unused frames while a new cartridge firing revolver was being developed

It's my favorite because of that

And it has a look that makes it iconic, especially the Uppercut

Like this fella is peak

[remote dust]

And only 7,000 were made

[orchid tangle]

crytek is either really good with their gun stuff or complete dogshit rarely an inbetween

[remote dust]

😔 Truly a shame. Thank you for informing me of this, Femboy with a Henry Rifle

[remote dust]

My impression so far has been positive

The 73 Infantry is such a vibe

[orchid tangle]

they at least write up some lore if they're out of place

like the avto/huot shouldn't exist in this time period so they made it so some mad gun dude created it which is fine

[remote dust]

That is very accurate for most novel gun designs

[orchid tangle]

what really confused me was when they acknowledged putting the scopes directly over bullet ejectors was silly, fixed it like once and then right back to doing it

[remote dust]

I mean look into Samuel Colt's life

[remote dust]

Oh man...

Which gun was that a problem on?

[orchid tangle]

there's a decent few let me see if theres like an image list of all scoped weapons

some don't have the issue like the lebel

mosin has it

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Not the moist nugget

You know actually

Odd how we don't have a Winchester 1895 in game

Or really what I mean is

It could make sense

[orchid tangle]

there has been a lot of people asking for it

[remote dust]

A lever action mosin

[orchid tangle]

people would say we don't need it because we have the mako but eh this game is already one where everything is viable

I feel like weapon additions are for preference and diversity at this point

which I LOVE

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I have my own dream weapon but it ain't no rifle

[orchid tangle]

so I don't see the need to put an idea down because another gun fills the roll

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Remington 1875

Yes it looks like a Pax but it could have its own niche

Hear me out

If you haven't emptied the cylinder when you want to reload, you load it normally

But for an empty cylinder, you swap them like it was possible on the historical ones

[orchid tangle]

we haven't had a new pistol tree in a long long time and I've been begging for one

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😔

The longarm selection is amazing

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the 1875 is the obvious pick but since they've already made up their own weapons before I'd love a one slot 2 barrel long ammo derringer
derringers like that exist but I don't think any did in this time

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And yeah the handguns are great but more is always gooder

You know a pepperbox based on a Colt frame would be funny

Anachronistic, but I believe Pietta makes them

It looks so goofy

(Also whoever manages to graft a longer frame onto it could make a functioning uppercut)

[orchid tangle]

everyone wants to live out their tuco gun shop scene

[loud steeple]

Such a good movie

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You say that but imagine the visual of a hunter bashing his gun apart to fit the cylinder of a revolver he looted from another guy onto his

[loud steeple]

I wish there had been more westerns with both Lee van cleef and Eastwood

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They had great screen chemistry in the two Dollars movies they were in

Both as allies and enemies

Biblically accurate Carter

[loud steeple]

Van cleef was only in the 2nd one

for a few dollars more

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He was in the 3rd too

He was Angel Eyes

[loud steeple]

I guess it is technically a trilogy

I usually think of the good the bad and the ugly as standalone

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It's probably because of the time shift

The first two are like

1870s-1880s

While TGTBTU is firmly early 1860s because of the Civil War setting

[orchid tangle]

I mean they're using colt saas in the first movie and there is a grave yard section with post civil war dates so yeah I'm one to say goodbadugly is standalone and they just reused the outfit at the end.

and it wouldn't make much sense for clint to have to go out of his way for bounty money after gbu

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he did it for the love of the game

[strange bane]

If they add this my joy will be uncontrollable

Shade Drifter with a Remington 1875 would slap hard

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-nod-clint-eastwood-clint-eastwood-intergalactic-clint-eastwood-hat-tip-clint-eastwood-blondie-gif-17544056042525888525

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Bonus if you can throw the empty cylinders at enemies

[analog pendant]

Oo Oo, and they act like decoys

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And then you see the other hunter fall for it

And you miss your headshot because you can't lead a target and then fumble your next one and then POW! you're dead

We also really need a Pax Americana

I think if they need to, Crytek could introduce guns like that with hunters who are not so subtly based on real figures

Like "Definitely Not Buffalo Bill" Carter

[strange bane]

Wouldn’t the True Shot be an Americana stand in?

Or am I mistaken

[remote dust]

I didn't know it existed

Yeah

Or if they add Not Doc Holliday, he comes with Colt Thunderers

[orchid tangle]

carter is already the fill in for buffalo bill so I doubt they'd do another like him
i really want a killer miller or boone helm hunter but nobody except me knows who they are

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No I know but I mean that they'd have suspiciously similar names to their counterparts

[strange bane]

America’s first serial killer would be a fitting addition to Hunt’s Motley crew

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H.H Holmes

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tbf I think it's probably best to avoid adding nods to actual real life serial killers

[strange bane]

Fair enough

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One hunter I'd love to see is one based on Wild Bill Hickok

[strange bane]

Wild Bill would be cool asf

[remote dust]

Wild Bob Hickins

Or some similar thing

[strange bane]

Haha

Yeah I wasn’t necessarily saying it wouldn’t be problematic, more so that most of the cast are killers themselves

[orchid tangle]

wild bill stories are hilarious
dude apparently took down a bunch of confederate veterans with a knife that got the jump on him

shit like that is why I think hunt shoulda stuck with the thought process that every hunt match is just one account of the same hunt told wildly different by each person

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Arizona Ranger

It's just a rip of Marty Robbins from the album cover

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He was also apparently not one for the stage

[strange bane]

Better to keep it in house and lore connected, with light references such as Carter and the Annie Oakley Legendary Hunter

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During a show he did with Buffalo Bill's WW show, he apparently hid behind scenery and shot at the stage lights

[strange bane]

They actually brought Boone Helm to justice on my birthday, holy smokes

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You know, there are revived dead hunters right?

[strange bane]

Will be very interesting seeing where the lore goes from here. Upwards and outwards

Yes

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You could, potentially, have Wild Bill in that guise since he was killed in '76

Holding the spooky card hand

[strange bane]

I always took Carter as Wild Bill stand in? I ain’t up to snuff on all my history

[remote dust]

He's Buffalo Bill's stand in

[strange bane]

Ah

Similar but separate fellas

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Different Bills

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Drip

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Wild Bill would have so many cosmetic options

Buckskins, suits, hats

He was a diva

[strange bane]

Don’t forget the Moccasins

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Moccasins, yes!

[strange bane]

Premium ostrich , three payments

New boot goofin

https://tenor.com/view/reno911-gif-4851667

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By the way

Where are the non-bayou maps located?