lore-discussion

[midnight zodiac]

What was the overall drive of the Primal Pact? They're a sort of unusual one - it seems to me like they're just sort of hunters who are devoted to the hunt itself. The other ones are easier to place for me.
Lunar: Resist the infernal pact's drive to achieve Chary's objectives, protect the moon.
Infernal: Mercenary AHA loyalists and Chary who seek to gain some form of control over the corruption for personal gain largely. Also seem sort of apocalyptic, with their fascination on things burning away on the other side of things.
Grounded: Resist the influence and spread of the corruption.
Smuggler: Plunder the absolute shit out of the Delphine and implicitly other things arising from the Land of the Dead. I don't think they're overall too picky.
Death: Gain insight into why everyone's having trouble staying dead. Also a resistance pact to Infernal.
Law: Bring all of these other silly bastards to heel - and stop people from doing human sacrifices to advance all of this zombie bs, ffs.

[real cedar]

Primal is the inverse of the Lawful, civilization vs natural law. They reflect the type of Hunter that came into the incursions either for freedom away from society or for the desire to hunt the most dangerous things.

[spiral mica]

Wilderness and Grounded have always felt the same to me, but maybe the explanation for that is simply something like "Grounded is Wilderness but in the Bayou and Wilderness is Grounded but in the mountains."

Wilderness is also similar to the Primal in the sense that they're reluctant to accept the advances of a more industrial and civilized world.

But a key separation between the Wilderness and Primal seems to be that the Wilderness mostly want their lands and themselves to be left alone, and the Primal are actively seeking forms of freedom and the thrill and accomplishment of a good hunt.

[brazen root]

wilderness pact just want to live in a nice hunting lodge in the woods without any noise or racket

Primal pact wants to eat mud

[real cedar]

All the new blurbs from the update

[noble scarab]

So they’re all friends again now

And that seems contradictory about the first rotjaw kill but I can’t recall if it was specified elsewhere

[granite shard]

The gar banished her but I don’t think it said who got the actual kill

Smh the gar coming in to steal the banish to deny the other team the regen

[real cedar]

The very first Rotjaw kill was Cardinal Rain & Gar.
The Reptilian wanted to kill Rotjaw but hesitated the first time he came across her, so Scaled Warrior and him competing the next time around seems legit

[granite shard]

Did the cardinal rain get the kill on her? I thought her final chapter ended more with her confirming rotjaw was the thing causing the rain stuff and then narrowly avoiding getting chomped by her

Okay yeah rereading the cardinal rain weakened rotjaw and the gar banished. We don’t ever really see a specific kill moment

[latent rivet]

Is it me or does the lore change on some hunters?

[real cedar]

The lore did change on all the Progression & Prestige Hunters and the Tier 1-3 BB Hunters added in Update 2.0

[latent rivet]

Why?

[real cedar]

No official reason given but I have to imagine it's because they were too plainly written, the blurbs weren't interesting. The new ones are more connected to the maps and other lore.
Oliver Whitman for instance was just described as a chef that's good with knives. Now he's described as a rat that scavenged the remains of shootouts and found the creepy basement in Mammon's Gulch, where he made a coat out of the many rat corpses that were hanging inside.

[woeful ferry]

I’m torn between liking that change or not.

[granite shard]

I like it a lot but I really really disliked the original ones

[noble scarab]

A lot of the original ones were just “x person likes murder therefore hunt”

[granite shard]

Yeah

Felt like they just were crunched for time and had to put out whatever

[strange bane]

Good afternoon Y’all

[spiral mica]

I always assumed it was a sort of group effort deal where Cardinal Rain weakened it, Scaled Ward dealt the killing blow, and Gar banished.

Since the different groups were all wanting to hunt Rotjaw for different reasons.

So in a way they all get a piece of that pie.

[granite shard]

And the smuggler pact contributed nothing 😂😂

[orchid tangle]

the cool guys I think look cool always do nothing 😔

[gilded umbra]

I like to use The Wayward Helmsman, he looks insane.

[orchid tangle]

I love the helmsman I just hate the mask

they were doing a lot of cage faces for some reason (3)

[strange bane]

I really dig the Corvids. Such a bloodborne vibe

Meridian Turncoat and The Kid are sick too, both versions. My most coveted skin is Union Suit lol

[gilded umbra]

Which one, the red one or the white one?

[strange bane]

Either is fine lol, I love them both

[gilded umbra]

I’m hoping to get Bad Hand. 🃏

[strange bane]

Send it! Hopefully you do

[analog pendant]

Syndi

[strange bane]

Yes? Sorry!

[real cedar]

Hell yeah, Hazmat got his own announcement 💪

[upbeat kiln]

Everyone is just so sweet :)) it's too much

[real cedar]

It's well deserved with how much work you've put into the game and lore

[noble scarab]

Congrats!

[mint wind]

Hazmat weapon skin ingame when.

[gilded umbra]

Hunter with a rebreather when?

[analog pendant]

Hazmat is what/who got me loving the lore

[neat juniper]

Do we not count a fire Marshall? Or who was it with a mask

[analog pendant]

Fire Marshall is our stand-in like Rexnor with Sea Wolf

That’s how I see it anyways

[strange bane]

Congratulations Hazmat! You’re the goat man! Haha

Also good evening and cheers all!

He really is our lore representative now, mad respect!

[real cedar]

Nice improvement to the community event system by allowing a free hunter on each side.
I wasn't expecting Dorothy Alice to be on both sides of the conflict, interesting

[steel plaza]

And it is my beloved Oliver! They listened! (Or their brains started working again)

[manic lichen]

Did... did we get a new writer?

[manic lichen]

Alice be like:

[real cedar]

Probably, ye. I heard that with Crysis 4 getting put in cold storage all the devs working on it got shifted back over to Hunt, including some narrative designers who used to work on Hunt full time like Nicolette Stewart. Idk if that's perfectly accurate but between some of the blurbs we've been getting recently and the Brute story, it definitely seems like a different writer than the one(s) that handled Harvest of Ghosts -> Garden of the Witch.

[manic lichen]

Yeah, sadly it feels like a dip in quality :/

[brazen root]

Feels like there are a bunch of devs at crytek that are passionate about crysis but they didn't get enough attention from their crysis 4 teaser so they were forced to work on their cash cow hunt lmao

[strange bane]

Good afternoon y’all!

[real dove]

How so?

We've gotten all the og lore writers back (at least those that haven't left or been let go :c ) from the crysis stuff

We definitely don't get as much cryptic lore. Lot more straight forwards

[manic lichen]

Dunno it just seems off.

[granite shard]

I mean it’s a small somewhat standalone story for the most part where the writers probably hadn’t been involved from the ground floor with planning

Like we’ll see what happens from here in terms of if we see larger stories, but for now this is a good start in terms of actually getting some form of narrative content again

[spiral mica]

I think it's also important to remember that for a good chunk of time there we weren't really getting anything at all. These things often take time to plan and prepare for and since we just got a lot of these people back I doubt they have anything ready to pull the metaphorical trigger on just yet.

[granite shard]

Yeah

I think the earliest we could see a solid event narrative pop up will be next year’s event cycle since narrative will likely have been able to have more of a hand in the planning there

That’s just me making guesses based on how I think game development cycles work based on dev timelines I see in other games, but stuff usually gets planned out really far in advance

[brazen root]

I want to hear more about the benefactors

Hope they get around to continuing that thread

[strange bane]

Good afternoon y’all

[analog pendant]

Howdy hey

[bold phoenix]

Is nun on your avatar drinking gay juice?

[analog pendant]

Very observant

[bold phoenix]

Is that a syringe in her other hand?

And wasn't she already lesbian?

I've read her letter to Circe Elias

[analog pendant]

That would be a cigarette, and she wasn’t made a lesbian, she already was

So the lesbian wine is more just an on the nose poke at her

[strange bane]

Good morning y’all

[strange bane]

Yes I stayed up all night and sent that lol, good afternoon lore hunters

[upbeat kiln]

Hey, everyone. I was just wondering; what are the shots in Hunt: Showdown?
Vitality, regen, antidote? Do we know what they are? Composition? Distillation method? Origin?

[granite shard]

Restoration and stamina

[real cedar]

The only bits of info are from the Book of Weapons entries, and the description of a stamina shot's effect in Bad As They Seem
Here's all the entries, the normal versions mostly have the exact same info as the weak version in each one:

The medication commonly known as a vitality shot is a syringe-administered medical treatment commonly used in hospitals and by army medics to increase the vitality of patients suffering from extreme fatigue and other injuries. Patients administered with a vitality shot report feeling "completely invincible"for a short period of time. Before the shot was perfected by doctors at the Penn Medical School, a prototype labeled "small" or "weak"was tested. Because of the low dosage it contained, it had little effect on patients. It did, however, provide proof of concept and allow the doctors running the project to continue in the direction that would eventually result in the completed vitality shot.

Stamina shots, generally, are commonly used in hospitals to increase the endurance capabilities of patients suffering from extreme fatigue by stimulating the nervous system and raising dopamine levels. However, when injected into the blood of a healthy adult, the shot can also induce manic euphoria. The weak variant of this medical aid is less prone to side effects, though is recommended only for use in extreme cases.

[granite shard]

There’s no standard recipe known to my knowledge but a few skins have mentions as to what their owners put in them

Iirc the viper’s antidote shot mentions some of their snake’s venom, and then Santa’s stamina shot mentions reindeer adrenaline or something

[neat juniper]

The who's what now mentions what?

[real cedar]

An antidote shot is administered to a patient in the case of chemical (medicinal overdose) or natural (plant, animal venom) poisoning. Depending on the severity of the poisoning, a weak- or standard-strength shot can be used. The lower dosage is always recommendable, in order to avoid possible side effects, but must be weighed against the probability of patient death.

WEAK REGENERATION SHOT. (See also, FIELD MEDICINE, STIMULANTS). A syringe-administered stimulant which has been diluted from its original potency. Colloquially, this gives the effect of "regeneration", as it takes longer for the full benefits of the shot to be felt. However, it's unclear if it actually could regenerate flesh, or if the effects were rather less dramatic.

REGENERATION SHOT. (See also, FIELD MEDICINE, STIMULANTS). A syringe-administered stimulant which offers immediate relief, claiming to affect the body's natural healing processes and spurring them into overdrive. This makes the effects of the injection less instantaneous than other types of vitality injections, with the benefit of being potent over time.

[upbeat kiln]

gtfo

reindeer adrenaline??? lol

that literally made me laugh out loud

[neat juniper]

STOLEN ADRENALINE????

😭 steals adrenaline from your blood

[upbeat kiln]

Hm. But we have no idea what the contents are?

[granite shard]

Here’s some other stam mentions

Based on this I think there’s really no standard recipe for any of these and that a bunch of different people have figured out their own ways of doing things

[upbeat kiln]

I remember Mr. Chary injecting Mary Ochenkov with something. Was that the antidote shots? He concocted something from Hives, right?

He even had recipes iirc

[granite shard]

And yeah I remembered correctly. Honestly snake venom in an antidote shot makes a lot of sense since that’s how you make antivenom irl

[upbeat kiln]

Yeah that makes sense

[granite shard]

Some regen shot stuff, the second one is 🤢🤢

[real cedar]

They don't say exactly what the contents are, but maybe some research into 1800s medicine will find something comparable. Manic euphoria and beating fatigue sounds like an amphetamine of some kind for instance.

[upbeat kiln]

I'm pretty sure Rexli said something along those lines once too

[granite shard]

Thinking of Mary, her blood was straight up used in a vitality shot lmao

[upbeat kiln]

Regular Mary -> Blood Ritual -> Hunter Mary -> Exposed To Hunting Grounds -> Chary's Ritual -> Chary's Experimentation -> Healing Blood

I guess we accredit all side-effects to Mr. Chary and his expertise then

since no other hunter has healing blood

[noble scarab]

Hunter hearts are one of the ingredients for the previous serum

Could tie into vit shots too

[spiral mica]

I'm still wondering if the description for that "Tetanus shot" is referencing the Demented pact or if it's using the word demented in a regular context implying that the hunters using it are demented but don't necessarily belong to the Demented pact.

[noble scarab]

Maybe both?

Demented hunters are more or less still around

[spiral mica]

I've mentioned it before, but I feel like considering everything they've been through the bulk of their ranks would be completely gone by this point.

You'd of course probably have isolated cases like Cowl, Scarecrow, and the Scrapbeak duo, but most of those Demented hunters would probably be dead. Both the Death and Infernal pacts swept through them like a hot knife through butter in tides of corruption, and then Hardin and his Lawful started purging any they came across in desolation's wake. Other pacts like the Grounded and Wilderness also opposed them too.

[granite shard]

I think they’re probably just like a really annoying weed

Hard to fully get rid of the demented when you have to already have a tenuous grip on sanity to be willing to be a hunter

[strange bane]

Good afternoon y’all!

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all!

[strange bane]

After a year of sleeping like a night creature…..Good morning Hunters! Haha

[shell quest]

Mornin

[strange bane]

Long may the sun shine!

[strange bane]

Good morning Hunters!

It’s almost High Noon….

[analog pendant]

The highest

[spiral mica]

So I've just unlocked the Tusk skin for the Springfield 1866 and I was wondering if the writing on the side of it is Voynich and if so what does it say?

[analog pendant]

Kinda wish Tusk was a bayonet skin with like a sharp bone (tusk)

[spiral mica]

If they do another set of agnostic skins for a future event they could do something like that. I think we've only still got the one bayonet skin from tides of corruption.

It's a really cool skin too so I honestly wouldn't mind a set of event skins themed around it.

[noble scarab]

We’ve got quite a few skins that only exist on one variant

Or guns that only have 1 skin

[gilded umbra]

I tried to post a link to Hazmat’s latest lore video. It’s impressive, as usual.

[granite shard]

Embeds are currently turned off due to server problems

[spiral mica]

Was anyone able to give info on this or nah?

[analog pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-ball-nah-no-nope-gif-12343468

[real dove]

its in the compendium

Rai has skins in the second one

[analog pendant]

Hunt Voynich?

[bold ruin]

Ok so question for you lot, favourite pact so far? Doesn’t have to be a recent one, just one you’ve enjoyed for the lore behind em

For me it’s gotta be demented pact, they’re creepy bastards and I love em for it

[vague frigate]

are the drowned a pack?

[bold ruin]

I think so!

[neat juniper]

Vibes based? I enjoyed mariners, they had a nice water theme
Coolness based? Demented were absolutely cooking

[granite shard]

Lunar pact

[real dove]

the alphabet that is on weapons hunters and the special ammo box

the OG is voynich, but the version in the game isnt the same as the original voynich

[granite shard]

that's just incorrect

like even if we're just looking at tide of desolation, the grounded, death, drowned, and primal pacts all came together to fix the land of the dead problem

[granite shard]

they weren't stopping the demented there

yes the demented were also attempting to do stuff in the land of the dead, and so there was conflict

but their main goal was to come together to ungoof the land of the dead

[real dove]

?

Did we read the same lore

no, we didnt

[bold ruin]

Hell yea they were cooking

[analog pendant]

Beating syndi to the howdy y’all

[strange bane]

Ahaha!

It’s High Noon Hunters, howdy howdy

[heady locust]

This little happy baby face doodle on the cross in the church

[strange bane]

Good morning and howdy!

[shrewd forge]

Looking for 2 players to make a trio

[real dove]

!lfg

[lucid temple]

Be sure to check out our LFG (looking for group) channels to find a partner:
For PC: #na , #eu, #asia, #oceania, #south-america
For consoles #looking-for-group-console & #looking-for-group-xbox
Regional LFG channels: #ru-поиск-игроков & #br-procurando-grupo

[strange bane]

It’s High Noon somewhere. Howdy Y’all!

[vague frigate]

then yea drowned is my fav

the whole captian and crew thing making deals with the rat and kid to save their souls from damnatuin like davey jones

and scuttled glory is the best ski in the gam

[strange bane]

Honestly I agree completely. Drowned are the coolest pact, such a strong and well defined aesthetic. Plus their lore is some of the coolest in game

[noble scarab]

Where’s the love for my death and grounded pacts?

[granite shard]

I will always love my beloved death pact

[noble scarab]

Wormbite, Sophia, the bone mason

I like to think the infected is in there too

Then grounded has got Cardinal Rain and presumably most of the other natives

[spiral mica]

I feel like some of the indigenous hunters would be split between Grounded and Wilderness which isn't saying much considering they're very similar pacts in terms of motives.

[granite shard]

tbh I'd like to see them brought into pacts outside of like "we are connected with the land" pacts

since that really is a common stereotype of indigenous people and I'd like to see hunt move a little past that and give these guys other motivations

[quartz narwhal]

Such as..?

[granite shard]

Maybe mr chary promised the exile some information on the people who ousted her family from their homes and she joined the infernal pact, or the third son befriended the researcher due to book stuff so when it came time to go to Colorado he hung out with him and assisted the lawful pact

[analog pendant]

Smalls🤗🫶🏻

[granite shard]

Hey!

There’s a lot of different directions that could be taken with the characters and motivations for them

[analog pendant]

Aviation pact and introduce planes💀

[granite shard]

Haha there’s a few years until we start seeing that

Gotta give the wright brothers time to work

[noble scarab]

hell you could say some of them could fit into primal given how they fight

[analog pendant]

Wright brothers skin just casually dropping big Dyno bundles over mammon’s💀😂

[spiral mica]

As a fan of the Primal pact myself I could see the kind of indigenous hunter who is determined to get revenge on someone who wronged them in one way or another. It would essentially be the kind of setup for a story that utilizes the archetype of a hunter gaining a sense of freedom from their past trauma through the act of vengeance while simultaneously quenching their desire to hunt something exceedingly fearsome and dangerous such as a mighty and personal adversary.

However, a big criticism I'd have for a story like that would be the fact that Hunt doesn't exactly have a shortage of revenge stories where a hunter was in some way wronged in the past and is now out for revenge and that being a major reason as to why they joined the hunt.

And even though I do enjoy the archetype of the indigenous hunter who is both connected and pledged to protecting the land I do agree with the sentiment that hunters of an indigenous background could be established and incorporated into different narratives besides that one.

[granite shard]

I just think with the greater context of how the indigenous hunters have been kinda pushed into the grounded pact across the game’s history (and. Just gestures vaguely at everything surrounding the plains warden) I’d just personally like to see crytek step away from any sort of primal/wilderness/grounded affiliation for them and explore a different direction

Like I fully see the appeal you see in that sort of primal story and think it could be neat to explore

But I just would rather see them go a different route w a few characters before going that direction haha

(I say this as if pacts are coming back. I’d love to see them return but it doesn’t seem likely)

[bold ruin]

Death and grounded are genuinely sick, but i just love the demented more, kinda cool just having some utterly batshit crazy hunters (more than regular hunters)

[half marsh]

is black coat by any chance inspired by william blake from the film dead man

feels like a very unique look to be coincidence

[granite shard]

wouldn't be surprised. quite a few hunters seem to be visual references to movie characters

[mint wind]

Mortimer

[half marsh]

i swear the first time i saw the uppercut precision colonel mortimer is what came to mind

somehow that movie introduced me to revolvers with stocks as a concept

[real dove]

NO MORTIMER

Piggy fren 😭

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all.

[analog pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/pillsbury-doughboy-poke-poking-cute-gif-16694531

[analog pendant]

So this week’s 48bb discount is for the Black Wight Machete, the machete talks about the infamous Hunter, Lynch, is this Lynch the same as the AHA director, Lynch? Or just total coinky dink?

[noble scarab]

It’s the same Lynch but she wasn’t a director for the AHA

Just a major player/manipulator

[analog pendant]

Ooo

[acoustic whale]

is the lore even a thing still?

or it's just character lore

[noble scarab]

yes and no

the last "long" entry we got was for the bear

otherwise its just character snippets and whatever they're doing for the fool/judge

and post malone, cant forget post malone

[granite shard]

it's likely they're warming up for bigger stuff after this trilogy wraps up

gives them around a year to develop a plan and whatnot

[acoustic whale]

never

[earnest jungle]

Based on how Crytek has followed up on that event it sure seems like they wish we'd forget that event

[brazen root]

Hopium

[granite shard]

Not really? They have writers back on the team and they’re not going to be paying them to do nothing but occasional hunter bios

[brazen root]

Hmm

The fact that they're calling this a trilogy at all probably is a good sign but I'm scared

I'm tired of this practically episodic lore, i hope they will follow up on existing plot threads, maybe tie these new ones into the existing narrative 😔

[granite shard]

I think the overlying lore thread for this trilogy will be the relative lack of lore

[brazen root]

The hunters were just on a vacation

To tahiti or something

[real dove]

Tbf we are getting lore with the event comp stuff

But def expecting more coming since it feels like they are pulling back into lore

Why else make Haz a partner? No offense but that's also his whole thing

I think we're going to see lore coming back here in more force

[earnest jungle]

Adding onto what Tib said Lynch was never officially the leader of any iteration of the AHA but she was the “man behind the man” as it were during Huff’s direction of the AHA. Collins certainly portrays her that way in his account of the Louisiana Event.

[spiral mica]

I'm actually not immediately aware of any indigenous hunter who belonged to the Primal pact which is why I suggested the earlier story idea, but I do know that most of them have been Grounded and Wilderness affiliated. Another potential alternative route I could see them exploring with a indigenous hunter that isn't Grounded, Wilderness or even Primal would be some kind of Lawful indigenous hunter who for some reason or another was interested in the prospects of a more industrial and civilized world. Maybe this kind of individual was simply curious or maybe they decided to become accustomed to the new climate and conditions that followed?

[stoic ore]

Well, I imagine being a weird woodsman with no proper fortified hold, reliable source of food, or knowledge of the infection gets rather difficult for a Hunter, so I can see why they’d want to check out the industrialist side of Humanity.

[strange bane]

Good afternoon Y’all!

[analog pendant]

Oo! thanks for the clarification and lore!

Hi syndi!

[regal trout]

Is Lynch the one who's inhuman?

Or hinted to be

Snake imagery is big with her

[noble scarab]

per Collins (dude who wrote Bad as they seem, a mostly fiction dime novel) she was never human, she just took the form of a little girl. during battle with the twins she transformed into a spider-thing and crawled down a clue. in non dime novel stories shes clarified to be a witch, an inhuman being, wearing the skin of Circe's little sister

[regal trout]

Interesting

Ah, yeah

That explains why black widow is her gun

[limber bough]

Hello fellow lore enjoyers, Im coming here with a lore question(and a few sub-questions) about the origins of the corruption. Ive seen The "murmurstone" and the "heliostone" come up in the lore a few times. From what I understand these are relics of some sorts, originating from the sculptor. Now, Do these stones, spread the corruption them selves, with some kind of an aura, or are they simply relics. Did they exist in the bayou from the start, or were they introduced later. And finally, Did the corruption it self start from the sculptors influence alone ? or did these stones have something to do with it ? I know its alot of questions, but ill appriciate of someone could explain. cant find much online. ❤️ thanks

[mint wind]

There ́s no heliostone :)

[real cedar]

The stones don't have anything to do with the creation of Incursions in Louisiana and Colorado. The Sculptor's presence does that alone (as far as the AHA knows), and at the time of initial infections, the Murmurstone was in the Land of the Dead in 1894 and disappeared somewhere in 1896 so it could not have any impact on the corruption's origin. It was only present in the Bayou during Tide of Shadows and Tide of Corruption, a pretty short period of weeks to months.

The Heliostone itself is more of a mystery. By naming convention, appearance, and properties one could assume it was created by the Sculptor but there's not enough information and the line about a small man giving the stone opens the possibility it could be another entity like the Lord of the Dead. The stone has similar corruption-manifesting properties as the Sculptor's presence does (or it might have no properties, Desert Rose seems to think it's a red herring and that the real corruption was the greed we made along the way) but it seems to be entirely localized to a small area around the stone, which travels with the Murder Circus. Overall the Heliostone is better off ignored in the grand storyline of Hunt. I'm 90% certain it won't get referenced ever again, like a story arc in a comic book that just didn't work out.

[noble scarab]

Chary could’ve been even more of a clown, and he’d had gotten his own passage to the land of the dead, if only he’d joined the circus

I do still wish the concept was a bit better, the idea was fun, a horror circus fits hunt

[mint wind]

Lil bits of Darin lore.

[gilded umbra]

Hardons Floating Office Of Justice

[real cedar]

That last line on the first image is from an old show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSRKOhcxnow

Both of those posters have quite a few little jokes in them

[strange bane]

Good morning Y’all! Howdy

[upbeat kiln]

Someone told me that Bunny is labelled in-game as an Italian Mastiff, not a German Shepherd. And I was so sure that the person was wrong, so I looked up the old lore on the old wiki, Hellhound Mastery 2, and it says German Sherperd, but on the "Lost dog" poster that is within the game, she is labelled as an Italian Mastiff instead, and there is a picture of the Hellhound. They even changed the original text from Mastery 2 to say Italian Mastiff on the poster.

I wonder why they changed that?

[brazen root]

Probably for the same reason there's crow/raven confusion

[real cedar]

They might've written the story before the final round of models were made. The earlier concept art is a little different, it was less obviously a specific breed, the ears especially look ragged and broken rather than clipped and indicative of a mastiff.
It is odd though that they've never bothered to correct themselves, even as the lore entries made it onto the website and some typos were fixed and Huff's time knot closed.

The earliest hellhound concepts especially

[mint wind]

I'd prefer so much if they removed the glow from their eye sockets during daytime.

[noble scarab]

The dog on the bunny skin looks more like a German Shepard as well

[real cedar]

The image on the skin is just the Greyhound trait art used as an engraving, the one with a human head

[noble scarab]

I’ve never actually looked at it closer, that’s interesting

[upbeat kiln]

I guess that makes sense yeah

[spiral mica]

Oh wow I actually never realized this before.

Truly you learn something new everyday with this game.

Another thing I learned recently that I couldn't believe I didn't notice sooner was that Biatatá has vitiligo.

[granite shard]

the vitiligo in her design is soooo good

really just amps it up another level

[spiral mica]

I have a mild case of it myself on my hands, feet, and a few other spots across my body. I was honestly dumbfounded I didn't notice we had a hunter in the game that also has it.

[strange bane]

Got Billy Story, am hyped

[short patio]

Hellhound ? Thats looks like e helllrat

[bold ruin]

So I gotta ask, what the fuck is skull taker on? Did bro just wake up one day and decide to choose violence against everyone and everything lmao

[brittle patrol]

The last one made me laugh ''kokuxmilsch, wat is dat denn''

[brittle patrol]

i find that one particulary scary!

[noble scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-chad-bitcoin-bitaroo-laser-rays-until100k-gif-23257130

[strange bane]

It’s High Noon…..cheers Y’all!

[strange bane]

Love how unabashedly chad like the prestige 7 hunter is if his claims are true. Zachary Jones lol

No monster is too big for Zachary Jones. He claims to have once taken on twin Meatheads with nothing but an axe, a blindfold, and a belly full of liquor. Whenever insecure Hunters call his bluff with a gunfight, though, they always die regretting it.

^his lore blurb

[noble scarab]

The old trials blurbs were full of that kind of thing

I bet Rai has those in the compendium

[strange bane]

Hell yee

I miss those

[spiral mica]

My headcanon is that him and Lonely Howl are best buds.

[ashen helm]

So guys, what is the concensus on sherrif hardin again? I followed this game on and off since 2019 and ive heard some lore videos about him doing some real heinous stuff, child soldiers and such. Wanna ask, was this retconned, or was this like, propaganda info by that newspaper guy that writes all sorts of bs? Or is hardin really just a psycho bastard?

[real cedar]

Yeah he is just that uncaring, similar to generals in WWI that threw soldiers into meatgrinders for another half mile of gained ground. The orphan train one was an interview transcript with Hardin himself rather than a second hand source so it's very legit.
Hardin is extremely mission oriented and wants to preserve his idea of order at any cost. Conscripting prisoners, child soldiers, torturing captives for info and executing half-turned people, he treats the incursion as total war. The one good thing that can be said about him is that it did get results where they were needed - containing the corruption - even as it wasn't enough to solve the problem.

[ashen helm]

I cant remember, were they orphans though or just rando kids?

[real cedar]

Orphans specifically from the Orphan Train Movement, which relocated around 200,000 children from east coast cities into midwest and southern rural areas that were short on farming labor.

[ashen helm]

ah well its much less worse then

based in fact

kidding, really not since i remember the lore video saying that some kids came back and he shot them anyway, but yeah the ww1 general comparison makes sense now, thanks ❤️

nah i thought he just kidnapped children or something, i mean that would be different kinds of fucked up that would just drive me away from even wanting to play the character.

I want to have a really well rounded roster, one of each "archetype" from the bayou... i was thinking my lineup would be>
-Hawkshaw Jack, detective from new york, the outsider, sort of using advanced weapons like semi auto pistols and silencers and gadgeted weapons
-Hardin, as the hardened local, peacekeeper, very western style guy in equipment
-Waldmann, as someone who just comes for the hunt of it i guess.
And later someone tribal-ish

Do you have any info on the waldmann by the way? Did he do anything like, lore significant or interesting so i can get more immersed in the character maybe? @real cedar

[real cedar]

He's pretty insignificant but from his small descriptions and legendary skins he's a Germanic hunter that has an interest in woodworking. His one claim to fame is hunting a legendary pure white doe with antlers, and massacring half a village to claim the kill.
The concept art shows off his tattoos pretty well. Aside from the snake and deer there's an icelandic sigil related to King Fjölnir and associated with wisdom.

[ashen helm]

I mean, pretty damn cool. Actually perfect that he has no big ties in the lore, i like my roster to be diverse, i dont want to play the protagonist all the time... usually in fact.

Now i just gotta decide between jack and wormbite, both have the exact aesthetic i want, just with way different lore, but i think ill stick to jack as my "outsider" guy

[gilded umbra]

Pale Death, with impartial foot, knocks at the huts of the poor and the towers of kings ☠️

[mint wind]

Say, would it be fair to say it’s Lynch who ́s also singing in Make Them Bleed ?

[gilded umbra]

That is a very interesting assessment.

[spiral mica]

I've always held the assumption that it's possible that certain hunters or characters are the people singing the PSB songs in the lore.

But I find it hard to discern which specific hunter is singing which particular song. I'd have to go back and listen to the lyrics in Make Them Bleed to see if I think Lynch is supposedly the one singing it.

[earnest jungle]

No. The Hunt Soundtrack is diegetic: the songs and the people who sing them exist within the fiction of the game as Hunters and singers who survived the fall of DeSalle

Some of their songs maybe about Lynch or from her perspective.

But there’s no reason to believe Lynch is singing any of them.

[mint wind]

What if she just lurked there :>

[strange bane]

Good morning Y’all!

[analog pendant]

Hey Syndi!

[noble scarab]

I’m surprised the PSB (in world) is able to get all this info to make their songs with

Obviously they have to be to make the whole thing work but it’s rare we get a mention of them in lore

[regal trout]

I feel like LH has lost his humanity enough to basically see respect for strong hunters but still only see them as Prey

It's interesting his mother and father still find it worth hunting him down

Also interesting he still wears their signet ring

[granite shard]

dire wolf/luna wolf are his mom and dad

[regal trout]

Ah, I thought dire was his brother

Just due to him looking younger than Luna

[granite shard]

honestly I feel like luna looks younger than dire 😂

[regal trout]

Fair lol

The ring itself is interesting to me

Perhaps he still feels some connection to them, despite his loss of humanity

[granite shard]

back during devil's moon there had been a little lore entry on the website about luna and dire wolf hunting lonely howl down with the assistance of frau perchta

and its conclusion was basically "either he comes back into the family or we kill him"

[regal trout]

I wonder how he'd feel about Iron Bark actually, or how Luna and Dire would

[granite shard]

seems they probably got him back into the family

[regal trout]

Interesting

[granite shard]

yeah it was never really followed up on

give me a moment and I can find a link!

https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/devil-s-moon-dusk-cries-perchta-while-dawn-whispers

they had put one of those out for each pact -- here's the lunar pact's one https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/devil-s-moon-la-luz-mala-herald-the-moon

and then interestingly I'm going back through the infernal pact one and I forgot abt this-- the devil's advocate's name (henry trapp) was one bought from the skinflint https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/devil-s-moon-the-return-of-the-skinflint-and-devil-s-advocate

[regal trout]

That makes sense

They're both Christmas themed

[granite shard]

yeah, I just think it's interesting that he bought his identity!

[regal trout]

I've always wanted skinflint to have a decoy skin that's just him throwing a bag of silver dollars lol

Literally just throwing money

[spiral mica]

He's one of their own, and I also find it interesting that Lonely howl seems to still hold some sort of connection to his family.

[spiral mica]

Lonely howl and Felis were together in desolation's wake and Iron Bark decided to betray them.

[spiral mica]

I actually suggested the idea earlier, but although Iron Bark isn't a indigenous hunter he is someone who sought the prospects of a more industrial and civilized world. I don't really know if he outright joins the Lawful, but it's apparent that he made some sort of deal or arrangement to benefit himself.

[regal trout]

He's raised by wolves, and assuredly values survival among all else

[analog pendant]

Don’t you just hate when your parents give you that ultimatum? 🙄

[granite shard]

haha

[noble scarab]

Ah fuck not again

[gilded umbra]

A complicated parental relationship.

[spiral mica]

I really wish we got a continuation or at the very least a better conclusion to that story with the Frisk family and Frau Perchta.

Obviously Lonely howl doesn't go back to his parents, nor is he killed by them because we see him alongside Felis and the Primal in desolation's wake.

But it would still be nice to know what actually happens in between that time period with them.

Maybe Howl somehow convinced his parents to back off and let him do his own thing for a bit?

[gilded umbra]

Hunt: Showdown 1896 needs some graphic novels. 📚

[strange bane]

Good afternoon fellow strugglers

[analog pendant]

Prefer schnugglers🤭

[bold ruin]

Honestly I can see that happening yeah!!!

I do think that Penitent and the reverend would fight together, probably wouldn’t get on too well at all but would have a kinda mutual understanding?

[analog pendant]

Beating Syndi, howdy hey cowpokes

[strange bane]

Good morning Hunters

[torn light]

[vapid monolith]

Post Malone is key to all this.

[hot owl]

Post Malone cause the zombia stuff

[heady schooner]

I want to know more about Post Malone

[strange bane]

Good morning you beautiful individuals

I will be watching the sun, glimmering like a magnificent father

If only I could be so grossly incandescent

[heady schooner]

Old letters speak of Post Malone strumming a banjo at Lawson Station, his song pulling hives from the rafters like a curse.

[hot owl]

I found a note speaking of Post Malone doing a dance, a corpse shuffle if you will, which matches the shamble of the ghouls we see today

[analog pendant]

I like your pfp

[analog pendant]

And to you, syndi! 🧡

[hot owl]

Thank you

[spiral mica]

What's funny is this actually happened sorta

The circus got corrupted because he accepted the Heliostone from an unknown stranger.

[hot owl]

We need Pre Malone lore too

[mint wind]

No.

[brittle patrol]

me and my buddy have been hunting him for a while now. It is not everyday you get to see a famous celebrity in the wild

Maybe this version is pre-malone and the other one post-

By the way, is there a lore-connection between Ursa Mortis and the new bear?

[granite shard]

no

there's a noted similarity in appearance between the two but other than that they're separate

https://www.huntshowdown.com/lore/tagged/monsters/brute

[brittle patrol]

i do appreciate that new big bad bushbear. I forgot about it's name

I do wonder. Did the sculptor motivated the man to create the brute or did the sculptor got attracted by his evil act?

[granite shard]

More likely attracted by his evil

The sculptor seems drawn to the cruelty and greed of people

[brittle patrol]

i do feel the sculptor has a twisted sense of justice

Grahm scaring the young hunter and the sculptor scaring Grahm

on a side-note, in the movie Midsommar, someone gets sewn into a bear as well.

[heady schooner]

At Blanchett Graves, there’s a half-buried journal page: “Post Malone swore the rot sang back to him — said he could hear it echo in the swamp water."

[hot owl]

P.M.E and P.M.E
Pre Malone Era and the Post Malone Era.

[heady schooner]

Survivors of Catfish Grove recall Post Malone walking barefoot through the mud, leaving behind footprints that smoked like ash.

[analog pendant]

You guys are really deep in the post Malone sauce, eh?

[heady schooner]

Post Malone collaborated with The Weeknd on the hit song “One Right Now.”
The Weeknd starred in the film Uncut Gems, directed by Josh and Benny Safdie.
Josh Safdie directed Good Time, which featured Robert Pattinson.
Robert Pattinson starred in The Lighthouse, directed by Robert Eggers.
Robert Eggers directed The Witch, which featured Anya Taylor-Joy.
Anya Taylor-Joy starred in The Queen’s Gambit, produced by Scott Frank.
Scott Frank wrote the screenplay for Little Women, which starred Florence Pugh.
Florence Pugh starred in Midsommar, directed by Ari Aster.

[heady schooner]

just a little postin'

[hot owl]

Post Malone is the key of all this. He's the load bearing file of Hunt: Showdown 1896™

[spiral mica]

You got any screenshots?

[earnest jungle]

I'm still convinced that Ursa Mortis is the orphaned black bear cubs

[heady schooner]

“A letter pulled from the swamp says: ‘Ursa Mortis howled, and I heard a chorus in the growl — not one beast, but many, crying out for their father, the one they call Post Malone.’”

[vapid monolith]

yall gotta be kidding me with this. the events over and i keep seeing ish like this in game.

[heady schooner]

Personally, I love it. I hope they do a Cardi B or Machine Gun Kelly cross-over event next.

[brittle patrol]

it´s crazy how it all interconnects! This cannot be coincidence 🤯

[plucky valve]

Hello, is there anywhere a good source about hunt lore so far, that would describe the situation in bayou?

[real cedar]

The Compendium in the pinned messages of this channel has all of Hunt's lore in a pair of docs to read through. For a more narrative-based source on Hunt lore that describes the situation in their own words, check out HazmatFTW on youtube, he has a good series that covers most topics.

[plucky valve]

Thank you! 🙂

[analog pendant]

This like the equivalent of one of your idols shouting out another one of your idols

[real dove]

Mortis was the cubs, merged into one

Brutus is the dude sewn into the bearskin

[strange bane]

Howdy y’all

[strange bane]

Good morning

[noble scarab]

The new dev survey breakdown teases the next event, the new event compound is spider themed evidently

[granite shard]

oh?

[real cedar]

Hm, not quite what I was expecting for the final entry of the tarot trilogy but I suppose it does fit with Halloween.
Will it be another side story, or finally a continuation?

[heady schooner]

More Post Lore?

https://tenor.com/view/x3-gif-24301743

I really hope they expand on how he created the Brutes

If he has the power to create Brutes & Meatheads then I wonder what else he created

[spiral mica]

Maybe we'll finally get that long anticipated Spider themed hunter that people wanted.

[upbeat kiln]

Hm.. A spider-themed hunter, you say?

I think I might have a name for that guy

[spiral mica]

Pacullidae Metacentric? (PM for short.)

[upbeat kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/jj-jameson-jonah-jameson-spider-man-stick-it-gif-24350289

[gilded umbra]

Lynch should be the spider themed hunter. 🕷️

[strange bane]

Honestly, Genius

Would be threatening asf

[noble scarab]

I mean in BATS, Lynch does turn into a spider-creature, so maybe

But a spider themed hunter would be good too

So long as it’s themed after our spider and not something like Elise from league

[strange bane]

Agreed

[real dove]

huh

post has nothing to do with the brutes

Post is likely never showing up in lore again

since they seem pretty eager to get away from that era

[heady schooner]

then explain this

[real dove]

thats mortis

the two headed bear

not brutus

Mortis was the bears in the circus. Brutus, the single headed bear we see roaming, is not in any way connected to them outside of a mention at the similarity.

[real dove]

Explained :)

[real dove]

yes

As i said

half man half bear

the brute

Mortis is the twin bear cubs

would you like a diagram?

[heady schooner]

Well you don't have to be condescending

[real dove]

I am not, I'm trying to explain why Brutus isnt connected to lore, as you requested

[heady schooner]

So this bit about the Blanchett Groves journal is canon, then?

[real dove]

That PM found twin bear cubs? yes

they grew up and then got mashed together into Ursa Mortis

these guys

Brutus is a man who was sewn into a bear skin

two different creatures/origins

[heady schooner]

so that's definitely not something I photoshopped from this image?

[real dove]

I read the first half and not the rest since I was trying to explain the lore to someone who seemed to not understand it. My bad :)

[heady schooner]

Nah I just like making up lore about Post Malone's involvement in Hunt

and will continue to do so

[real dove]

Out of curiosity, why?

[heady schooner]

Because people like to fellate the lore of this game while trying to distance itself from putting Post Malone in lmao

[real dove]

To be fair, pretty much everyone in the lore community was unhappy about him

[heady schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/lighthouse-the-lighthouse-wake-laugh-wake-laughing-gif-5252594120951449508

[brazen root]

There are rumors that the sculptor walks the earth disguised as a man

I think we all know who

[heady schooner]

True.. it would make sense..

[sinful bloom]

We all know post is the sculptor

[sinful bloom]

What if it is true think bout it alps

[real dove]

No

I will not

[sinful bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/post-malone-drink-cheers-gif-7100341334379566706

[mint wind]

His name doesn’t belong in Hunt.

I could see his face being present, but not the painful reminder that this is a frickin 2024 collab.

[sinful bloom]

[brazen root]

post malone was just a very common name in 1896

[strange bane]

Lmao

Good morning Hunters

May your malones be posted

[spiral mica]

My Malone is posted in an elevated postition as often as postsible.

[noble scarab]

She posts on my Malone until it shows down?

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon lore Hunters

[analog pendant]

And you, syndi

[digital barn]

I actually googled how he himself came up with the name, because of the discussion here and appearntly he typed his real name into a rapper name generator on the internet.

So maybe he just went to a witch lady or something since the Internet was not a thing, he needed a cool circus director name and she threw her witch craft bones to read him a name and that came up.
The bones don't lie.

[strange bane]

Good morning/ early afternoon Y’all. Cheers

[acoustic whale]

this

[brittle patrol]

it doesn´t seem out of character for someone like a circus director to have an exotic/unusual name. The sculptor already seems to mess with the fabric of reality by creating supernatural horrors, Maybe there´s overlap between the world of hunt, some kind of hell-dimension and possibly our contemporary reality. (I remember Stephen King's ''Dark Tower'' series where the world of the gunslinger is connected to different points of time on earth. )

[strange bane]

Who do y’all think they will add next legendary hunter wise for a real world outlaw inspired character?

Am interested to see as Annie Oakley was done very well

[orchid tangle]

idk if there is much to go off for real world outlaws that are popular enough to add
It'd probably be jesse james or something

if I got to choose either levi boone helm, elfego baca, or jim killer miller

[earnest jungle]

John Wesly Hardin

[strange bane]

Hell yeah

[noble scarab]

I want another generic man in black type of hunter

We had a tier 2 that fit that perfectly but he got eaten by the 1896 update and crytek hasn’t seen fit to restore him

I miss a lot of the tier 2s actually

Justice for our lost hunters

[vague frigate]

WE NEED GENERIC HUNTERS

[digital barn]

I LOVED that one! Where do I sign a petition to bring him back? I'd give Crytek money if I have to. Does that work?

One was called "James Justice" or something like that and I was actually a little sad when he got killed.

found the screenshot!

[brazen root]

he has another hat but Leon Ulitsky has this face, doesn't he?

[vapid monolith]

Leon Utilsky of the glitched hairline

game been around so long but never fix this

[gilded umbra]

Leon looks focused and serious.

[brittle patrol]

in his old lore he was a ''strikebreaker'' some profession i dont hear about anymore. I feel the old lore was more centered around past crimes and/or occupations. I get the idea the current lore is more relatable to the ingame experience.

[gilded umbra]

A breaker of people on strike. 🪧

[brittle patrol]

i wonder if such thing is even legal these days

[gilded umbra]

“Hey, shut up and get back to work!”

[brittle patrol]

i assume if that don't work, they pull the guns

[gilded umbra]

It seems like a controversial profession but he looks like he enjoyed his job. I like how his third unlocked appearance matches the green camouflaged weapons.

[brittle patrol]

the third one often seems the stealthiest

My favorite skin of those hunters is Mercy Zener tier 2. I like her long coat and eyepatch.

I hope they will re-introduce some of the old hunter skins with a specific name and lore.

I particulary wish to see Cletus back. He's the guy who gets shot in the tutorial. I've heard some people call him ''Bayou Luigui'' because of his green outfit and moustache.

Apparently Vinson Hayes fights against strike-breakers. Is this also new lore? I don't remember Vinson, Otis and Caithlyn's lore for some reason.

[real cedar]

It's newer, yeah. When those three dropped in 2.0 there was no way to see their bio, it took until a more recent UI update for them to get lore.

[brittle patrol]

ah, now i understand. Strange they didn´t have a story at first, they seem such iconic trio.

[digital barn]

I took the time and read through the Hunters who have Tiers Lore/Summary things and really like how they progress with their Tier.

I remember one "changed" after witnessing something in a hut on Mammon's Gulch.

or finding something there? I need to read them again.

I am wondering who comes up with those. Do the Map Designers already have bits of lore in their mind when designing a compound? To give the whole thing a more "living" feeling?

[brazen root]

Absolutely, you can see it in a lot of the compounds. La Plata really stuck out to me, it's a whole functioning mining operation

And that hut you're thinking of is the one with the rat sacrifice basement hah, its on the map

[real cedar]

They definitely do think of underlying stories, but for the hunters I believe it's the other way around, they mold the stories to fit the maps. Like how another Hunter mentions the mannequins around Stillwater and Lawson.

[sinful bloom]

Oh LORD OF LORE I MUST ASK THEE TO DEPART THEE KNOWLEDGE ONTO MEEE
Is the pumpkin on harvest is it like a parasite the sculptor made or something entirely different

[real cedar]

It could be something the Sculptor made intentionally, or it could just be a side effect of corruption on random gourds. It seems to have some relation to the lore blurb from Halloween 2021, also called The Harvest:

Hunters have reported feeling strange around the gourds that have popped up around the Hunt. They're said to draw you in and whisper delights into your ear. The yellow pumpkins beg to be destroyed; to be trampled and shot and sliced until they are nothing but feed for crows. Some have come back feeling strange after encountering those yellow pumpkins, that their odd, sweet scent makes them lose themselves in joy and pleasure and when they wake up hours may have gone by. The AHA originally wanted Hunters to avoid pumpkins at all costs but more began to grow and the Hunt became perilous. So, there is only one thing to do: Get rid of them all as quickly as possible.

Ultimately Harvest's blurbs and trailer are kinda gibberish without much substance so all we have to go on about him is that he shed his old identity, wears a pumpkin that seemingly makes him go crazy, and uses Lynch's knife in Midnight's intro animation, which could be relevant or it could be random chance that skin was chosen.

[sinful bloom]

Gotcha

[brittle patrol]

@digital barn @brazen root I like how his extraordinary coat is made out of rats and apparently linked to that basement! According to his old lore, Oliver Whitman was a cook who stabbed his superior. I wonder if his connection to rats is a reference to the ratatouile movie.

The collection of rats stood out to me, especially the big one. I believe this was a different location, but forgot where precisely. I have yet to check out that basement you talked about.

[real cedar]

The rodent of unusual size cabin is on the northern edge of Lawson Delta, to the east of the railroad track. There's a guaranteed axe spawn just below the rat corpse

[brazen root]

There are two rodent cabins?

[brittle patrol]

Thanks for sharing this information!

[brittle patrol]

Apparently! There's also a location where a rat is nailed to a wall. I wonder what the meaning of these creatures is within the world of hunt

[brazen root]

Clearly teasing the upcoming giant rat boss

[brittle patrol]

I would love that!

[spiral mica]

I think the best example of this sort of thing is the whole graven path thing that you can find underneath king snake mine on desalle. It used to glow blue and red in and out of dark site, but ever since desalle came back I don't think it does that anymore.

[brittle patrol]

Some lyrics of Port Sulphur's ''Rabbit in the Mine'' say: '''He says he found the answer, way down in Kingsnake mine''

[spiral mica]

Yeah, I remember it was a pretty big deal back during the tides event, but it hasn't really been brought up since then.

Last I remember hearing about it was the drowned pact guarding it or something.

[brittle patrol]

Any theories what may be there?

[spiral mica]

Well, we know the graven path was just a portal to the land of the dead. Besides that everything else is just conjecture.

We know pretty much next to nothing about it.

[brittle patrol]

It sounds very significant. I hope they explore this portal further. I'd love to see at least a glimpse of the land of the dead through an ingame portal.

[noble scarab]

Pre-graven path it was also where chary experimented on people, mostly Mary ochenkov

[brazen root]

Didn't they close the path

[upbeat kiln]

https://youtu.be/A6aV5R2bFGI

[real cedar]

New Lore entry! 👀
New Hazmat video! 🥳
It's a good day

Oh shit

I'm only reading chapter 1 so far but I think this story is using Burnt Marshall as its protagonist. We have a name for him now.

[brazen root]

Wow, random lore drop

[real cedar]

Nevermind, Damon is Delacroix's first name, who just happened to be at the same Peshtigo fire as a boy that Burnt Marshall was. It was a pretty big fire after all, killed a lot of people but not literally everyone.

[granite shard]

Direct link for the hellborn https://www.huntshowdown.com/lore/tagged/monsters/hellborn

[real cedar]

Another interesting observation: This is the first time the Modern Researcher has had their notes described physically. It's always just been "Researcher's Insight into X, Undated" but this time they mention what paper it's on.

Oh wait, this isn't the Modern Researcher

It's Harold Black

That's why it's on the back of the hand sketch, that's the Hunter XP envelope which iirc can also be seen in Black's satchel.

[mint wind]

So we're still good on Damon Delacroix ? Would be a shame if the SE lore was wasted.

First thing I noticed in this was the fact that the name Delacroix was never brought up.

[real cedar]

Chapter 3 confirms it's Delacroix.
"You'll need this to push it deeper Mr. Delacroix." The Boss put a thorny branch in Damon's hand, helped guide it into the miner's throat

[mint wind]

Pfiouh.

[brazen root]

But who tf is Jasper Priest

Also, is this entire text just a meta way for the returning writers to roast the lore from the lore drought and rewrite it their own way

[granite shard]

jasper priest is the in-universe author of the story, similar to hayden collins

[real cedar]

Jasper Priest is the pseudonym for Vincent Clemens, a priest turned dime novelist that wrote "Reverend Jeremiah and the Black Hand", which described the Immolator's origin. He also appeared in the final chapter of Scorched Earth, suggesting he started following the Hunters as Collins did.

[brazen root]

Oh interesting, so we have seen them before

[real cedar]

Chapter 15 of Scorched Earth is from the same novel as this new hellborn lore, Tortured Peaks

If Harold Black really is the guy writing the introduction to this new lore, it appears to confirm that the Corruption lasts at least another year, as Tortured Peaks was rejected in July 1897 and the researcher mentions returning to Mammon's Gulch and continuing to watch the Hellborn as it's currently active.

[brazen root]

The hellborn blurbs during scotched earth were the researcher's notes, do you imagine those blurbs are from the work he is about to do in 1897+? Those blurbs specifically don't look like they're dated, but i believe the rest of scorched earth approximately is, right?

[real cedar]

Scorched Earth is loosely dated to August 1896, but that could easily be overwritten in the future as the only source is the margins of a newspaper from a teaser image on social media. The Researcher very likely survives the whole incursions ordeal, as his wax cylinder recordings were added to the Phonogrammarchiv in Vienna in 1899. Presumably by him, though it could be someone else who collected his research.

[brazen root]

Okay I'm reading through the scorched earth texts and it looks like the researcher was told the version of the Delacroix/Hellborn event he knows during the time the scorched earth events played out

The major difference between the two retellings of the event seems to be that Priest says Delacroix and his boss were conducting the rituals to appease an ancient evil, Witcher style, while the researcher thinks they were doing it to replenish the oil

Other than that the retellings seem pretty much the same

[real cedar]

The Boss is saying shit about appeasing the mountain, but the end result in Jasper Priest's retelling is also that oil flows. Seems like Delacroix was being kept in the dark about the nature of the rituals just as much as the identities of the sacrificed.

[brazen root]

If Jasper is an unreliable narrator, the name Damon might be an invention

[brazen root]

Very possible

[real cedar]

He most certainly is an unreliable narrator, as nobody but Delacroix and Wyatt Preston were in some of these scenes - Preston might've been very very specific when he spilled his guts to Marshal Brewer and others though - but we also have Jesse Buchanan, Delacroix's army buddy, as a source for his real name. It could still be an invention like Huff -> Huffington, but I don't have reason to doubt the name currently, especially not when his confirmed last name is also used.

[brazen root]

Ok yeah in chapter 15 that you mentioned, even Jasper says that "the fool" Preston turned to the rituals when the oil ran dry

[brazen root]

Oo, do we hear about the name from Buchanan?

[real cedar]

Nope, I'm just assuming it's possible as Buchanan's story mentions how he came to Mammon's Gulch to track him down. That would be another source for Jasper Priest to get the name and Peshtigo fire background from.

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon lore hunters

[brittle patrol]

Good Night Lore-ologist!

[sinful bloom]

Theoretically we have corrupted fruit that can corrupt people is what I'm hearing

[real cedar]

Theoretically, yeah, though it likely won't ever show up in the lore outside of Halloween

[noble scarab]

Nice, more hellborn lore

Also Rai, dunno if it’s just me but your google drive link to the compendium is not working

It just times out, at least on mobile

[earnest jungle]

Huh so the the Peshtigo fire was just one of several fires that broke out simultaneously on October 8th 1871 known collectively as the Great Michigan Fires.

And the comet is most likely meant to be a fragment of Biela's Comet which had been proposed as a possible explanation for the fires in 1883

Now this theory is incredibly implausible as meteorites are in fact cold to the touch by the time they reach the earth’s surface but this is Hunt Showdown and the meteorite fragments are clearly supernatural in nature

Which is now making me wonder:

In the universe of Hunt Showdown is this what inspires The Colour Out of Space.

Oh god the fanfic ideas are coming to me now

Hunt Showdown meets the Call of Cthulhu

Yo Lovecraft was born in 1890 we could have a six year old Lovecraft in the game…. Oh god we could have a six year old Lovecraft in the game shudders

[real cedar]

Hm, I'll try it out on my own phone real quick. It might just be that the compendium is too beefy for phones?

Nope, it opened up fine on mine so idk what the problem could be. Not much of a mobile user.

[gilded umbra]

This game has the best lore. 📚

[strange bane]

I readied up with two alices earlier lol, was perfect

[noble scarab]

Dunno, thanks for checking though

[sinful bloom]

Never say never rai

[plucky valve]

Howdy Partners, I have question, does anyone know if there were additional bits of lore around Burnt Marshal? I haven't watched events videos, but I would love to know more about him 🙂 and Peshtigo fire.

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all

[plucky valve]

:tips hat:

[strange bane]

Yeah I don’t recall off the top of my head, but I remember Burnt Marshall being in the infernal pact under Mr Chary back during Devil’s Moon. May have joined because of his life long fascination with flames, as the inferno was what originally brought him to the Bayou. I could be wrong lol

Very cool character

[plucky valve]

Yup, I've just found that on Wiki there is a good doc on Tide of Corruption, but I haven't watched any new trailers after 2023, and I am interested if they tried to smuggle something in there 🙂

Would be nice if they would expand on lore of some of the characters more.

[strange bane]

The Peshtigo Fire was a real event in 1871, considered by some to be the deadliest ever recorded in history

Agreed!!

[plucky valve]

And I love that in Wiki they mention the Comet gossip.

What have fallen? Some Colour Out of Space ? 🙂

[strange bane]

Yeah!! Lol the comet breaking apart is what is said to have caused the fire. Maybe in hunt lore canon he went insane from witnessing the space rock and the fire, not just the fire. Is interesting lol

We getting Eldritch up in here

[plucky valve]

Some lovecraftian Beeings would really fit into hunt, and I think threy are public domain from what I was last checking 😄

Would be interesting to have new category of threats in Bayou 🙂 Boss, by which you are Going mad!

See Echoes of other Huters, for example.

Or play with sound cues

[plucky valve]

Weren't we almost already there? 😄

Piece from Chapter Two: Butcher's Cleaver:

The rough tongue of the Murmurstone cracks and breaks and secrets come out. They rush my hearing with heat and promises—and oh. Strike a match and stick it inside too. Push its flame to the center of my mind and let it hum of hymns and the snapping of so many spines the world just stops.

[strange bane]

Yeah….haha WHEN THE WORLD’s SKULL SPLITS OPEN….WE WILL DRANK FROM IT!

Loved that whole butchers cleaver story lmao

[plucky valve]

same, same ! + I must admit voice acting is as good as I have remembered!

LOL 😄

I brought out their favorite object: the Split Piglet, so small and dead. So filled with maggots and feral blood-milk. Mosquitoes drank its splendor and flew with fat bellies to feed themselves to beetles hungry in the rafters.

[strange bane]

I went around as Butchers Cleaver during that event alot doing impressions of him from the trailer. I play on console so most don’t even know about the lore over here. So I’ve always been that one lore nerd going around acting like the characters I play event to event. Most laugh at me lol but some appreciate it and ask me about the lore. I represent console players in the lore channel and I represent the lore channel on console! Lmaoooo

[plucky valve]

I love to have "Lore" accurate loadouts, and sometime RP them 🙂
Most fun one is as well Butchers Cleave with Murmustone blades 😄
Or Miko with Her Katana and Bow 😄

[strange bane]

This event, when I play as either Fool variant I do a joker esque voice with my natural southern accent. I go around with recovery shots and med kits, so if my team goes down I tell them “Here , the new and improved miracle all cure from Doc Redmartin! Perfectly reputable, I updated the recipe.” Then I heal em and give a jonkler laugh

Same! Haha I may be one of the only console players who likes to run lore accurate stuff lol

Keeping the lore alive one nerdy RP filled match at a time

Working the RP in to gameplay is even more peak, like playing as plague doc/corvids or doc redmartin and actually healing people and giving them recovery shots when they go down

Corvids are more lival to trap compounds up than heal you though. Lmao they don’t have an actual doctorate, says so in their trip wire lore

Yapping aside, Good Afternoon lore enjoyers. Wrap this day up in a poncho and have a cigar with it

[plucky valve]

:tips hat: See ya around partner!

[strange bane]

Tips hat back Cheers muchacho. Time to grind for Prestige 100 and Union Suit. One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Boulder.

[plucky valve]

Awesome piece:

Insanity was in for a season, but I knew that all seasons burn at their end.

[brittle patrol]

i appreciate folks being in character. Adds to the vibe.

[strange bane]

Agreed! Haha

I have maybe run into one or two hunters in the last year that were in character. Back 2 years or so ago there were way more people on console roleplaying lol. This past year I’ve ran into the same fella playing as the Researcher and doing a voice like him too.

Then there was a Midian main player who used to grace console hunt with his presence, always loudly declaring he was the disciple of Scrap Beak before throwing concertina bombs and charging in. Lol good times

Don’t see much of him anymore, hope he is well

[brittle patrol]

It warms my heart to hear that scrapbeak has a fanbase

[strange bane]

I like doing a thick hillbilly accent for the Kid and running nothing but revolvers. I do a geriatric old man when playing pappy redneck lmao

When running black coat, I do a variation of the COPS theme song in voip. “Black coat black coat, bing shabba doo. What will you do when you step in poopoo?”

Haha

Am a goofy fella but I have fun with it. Grinding this game is fun and rewarding

[brittle patrol]

it makes encountering the characters a more unique experience. Their ingame voices all sound the same.

[strange bane]

Oh honorable mention, but with Billy Story I do my Billy the Butcher impression from gangs of new york. Gets the randoms hyped as all get out LMAOO

[brittle patrol]

i have not seen that movie yet, only fragments but his performance seems iconic

[strange bane]

I do a speech on top of a crate billy style, “This day will be remembered. Not in shame but pride, as we will paint this beautiful soil with the spilled blood of our foolish adversaries.”

They then proceed to charge behind me with a quickness of motion lol

[brittle patrol]

i like it when people at least communicate but love it when people have fun doing it

[strange bane]

This game is easily the most fun I’ve had in a multiplayer game since the good old days of Minecraft and Halo or Dark Souks pvp lol

Hunt will be engraved in my memories even after I’m gone. People that miss me will find me in the game

What form I will take , idk. A hunter who is outnumbered after his team abandons him, suddenly is hitting all his shots and hears an enemy go down to a stealthy black coat. He turns and the black coat is gone, leaving a death cheat behind

From Dead Syndicate with love

Lol

But there will be many more good afternoons before that

My apologies for spam Y’all , cheers haha

[brittle patrol]

it's okay. It's wonderful to see people being passionate about the game

[strange bane]

My fellow cultured individual

raises mug

cheers lol

[brittle patrol]

i don't vibe with much shooters but hunt has such unique setting and characters and i like the community that surounds this game.

[strange bane]

I love the little barbute guy in your pfp

Pink Knight

[brittle patrol]

apparently his name is meta-knight. I like him because he waits for the player to grab the sword and fight him in a fair duel

One of my favorite things to do is trying to negotatiate with people around the boss lair. ''Drop your weapons now!, this doesnt need to end in violence''

Or just invite them to come in because there's coffee

[strange bane]

I know Meta Knight! I didn’t realize that was him lol

Awesome

[brittle patrol]

this is probably a very old version of him

i don´t remember him being named either

[analog pendant]

My brethren of loreeeeee!

[gilded umbra]

I always roleplay in VOIP as well. I only play solo so in my most recent hunt as Gar, I stumbled upon The Witch Hunter at a compound in Mammon’s Gulch. She was solo, injured and fleeing from an Armored so without hesitation I dropped her with a swift Poison Arrow from my Hunting Bow. I said to her as she fell, “Every death is a lesson” which I always say whenever I kill a hunter. I quickly looted her body and then said to her, “I’m going to let you live Witch Hunter, remember this moment.” I spared her from burning and traps, I guess I was feeling merciful at that moment. So I left her lying there and I retreated into a nearby structure. I then heard her rise and kill a few grunts so I hid in an elevator and remained quiet and still. Evidently she heard me enter the building; her aggression and curiosity got the best of her because I immediately saw her slowly crouch walking as she entered the room I was hiding in. I quietly readied another Poison Arrow and waited until she turned and faced my direction with her signature rifle. The moment she saw me, I could almost hear her mind telling her hand to instruct her finger to pull the trigger so I released my arrow and hit her center mass. She fell, but this time we both knew she would not rise. I said to her again, “Every death is a lesson” as I grabbed a nearby lantern and threw it on her body, engulfing her in flames. I was hoping for her to respond but I guess our encounter left her speechless. Moments like these make playing Hunt an unpredictable adventure.

[brittle patrol]

you know how to make things memorable, especially talking to enemies you might never see again, that's some dedication.

[gilded umbra]

Yeah, and that happened during Thundershower so the atmosphere was creepy and eerie. Someone said on my Steam profile a few days ago, “You might be good, I’m not gonna lie but you’re cringe as fuck”. I thanked them for the compliment.

[brittle patrol]

last game i heard some folks talking, pressing the ''wrong'' alt. It does add some realism overhearing those conversations.

doing things that are outside of the ordinary can easily enter someone's cringe-territory

[gilded umbra]

As if that word would actually offended me in the context of playing this game. It was an honor to be insulted that way.

[brittle patrol]

it's often used as an insult but in the end of the day it's no general fact, just someone's personal aversion

or maybe a guilty pleasure perhaps

[gilded umbra]

I was being chased by a trio as I was running to the extraction with the bounty token last week and one of them kept saying, “Hey don’t run, we won’t hurt you…”. Now that was cringe, in the best possible way. I could tell he was lying because they were still shooting at me but the wordplay was adding to the suspense for sure. I barely made it out alive but it was so fun I couldn’t stop laughing.

[noble scarab]

I turned off my VOIP because too many people were just mic spamming, and screaming obscenities

I do miss having it on sometimes, sometimes you could negotiate or team up or something

[brittle patrol]

most interactions with the enemy are not very fun. Only one time we had an enemy team asking us to put the weapons down and let them through with the bounty.

i told them not to worry, the weapons are just part of the costume

[brazen root]

You know what they say

Don't kill the part of you that is cringe

Kill the part that cringes

[real cedar]

Oh no

New teaser means the next event is starting around the first week of October

[sinful bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-22712908

Looks like a face hugger gotta be honest

[brazen root]

Long awaited rat boss ??

[granite shard]

the giant rat that makes all of the rules?

[brazen root]

Creaking in the walls and floor? obviously they're full or rats and/or mice, it's coming

[granite shard]

https://tenor.com/view/fea-giant-rat-gif-25069354

[brazen root]

Trying to figure out what we're actually seeing

Kinda looks like a footprint of sorts with a really big toe

The edges look like a mix of bent metal and whatever the corruption growth is that we see around clues, beetle hives, boss lairs, etc

[real cedar]

Messing with the brightness doesn't reveal much more info. It reminds me of the papery hives built up around the maps but the design also looks a little more biological and shell-like rather than created by insects. The surrounding bit also looks thorny bones. Maybe the exposed "heart" of a creature?

The two other clues we have are the hints in the most recent blogpost:
"Without spoiling too much, we do have a new 17th compound in the works, which we are crawling with excitement to reveal to you…keep an eye out on the web for more info…."
And the event epilogue that we weren't supposed to see yet, but sometimes shows up because of bugs:
"Fortunes have misaligned. Prophecies have missed their targets–dropped dead–rotted.
Something whispers through fate to each Hunter. A promise of misread omens. A rumble from below ground. An empress soon to rise."

[brazen root]

Is the upcoming 17th compound a fucking underground lair with a giant queen insect enemy / mini boss

[real cedar]

I don't think it's going to be underground, rather this thing is coming up to meet us. The Prescient's story in this event is also all about listening to something underground:

True Exile: "Banished sight reveals what eyes can’t see. The Prescient can feel skulls gathering beneath mud. When they rise to feast on moonlight, her bones crack. Something whispers, chatters, whines, and clicks along her skull. This rifle frees her from each effigy’s curse mark."
Blind Justice: ""The Prescient pressed the barrel of this Terminus into the soil. She makes of it a lightning rod. Holding it, she feels great shifts underground. Ley lines snapping. Effigies congealing from old blood. The nature of a justice beyond sight lies just beneath her feet."

It all pretty much amounts to "Something is coming"

[dense stag]

Maybe its a boss clue for a new boss?

Like an actual clue

[real cedar]

Like a wild target trace, yeah that could be legit

[dense stag]

Yeah

[real cedar]

Keep an eye on the banners on Twitter, Reddit, and Facebook. Last time they started teasing the next event, they updated the banners with small little hints. Since an event is going on, they probably won't update until the 17th, but who knows.

[strange bane]

Good morning Hunters! We clearly got some new stuff to brew over lol

https://tenor.com/view/doc-holliday-gif-22401260

tips hat

[brazen root]

Good idea

[brazen root]

Hmhmhm interdasting

[dusky fossil]

What am i looking at what is this

[real cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-osborn-the-amazing-spider-man-2-dane-dehaan-question-question-of-the-day-gif-2306144765068389181

[spiral mica]

The whole "Empress soon to rise" portion of that piece of event epilogue feels very Lynch to me. Also, I don't know if anyone else has made the connection, but the image provided from announcements seems to share some similarities with the Murmurstone from the tide of corruption event which also just so happened to be a Halloween event too.

[real cedar]

Idk, both the murmurstone and the heliostone were both very obviously face-like, while this thing is much more biologically obscure

If they wanted to continue the infinity stones collection it'd probably look more like a head sculpted out of some weird shit

I just know there's some biological thing that bears the most resemblance to that image but I just can't remember what it is.

[granite shard]

similar to a fucked up beetle belly I think

[gilded umbra]

That new tease is quite interesting. 🤔

[noble scarab]

It’s got that chitinous or mushroom-y look to it, or similar to the armored/hive weird papery thing

[gilded umbra]

When I first saw it I thought it was an eye. 👁️

[spiral mica]

This is what I was initially thinking. Like some sort of insect husk.

That's why my mind immediately jumped to how the Murmurstone looked.

There's also locations on the maps where you can find that sort of corruption on the buildings and towers. Maybe this 17th compound will be covered in the stuff?

And maybe something primarily insectoid in appearance will roam the compound like the bear did in the murder circus event?

[burnt stag]

I’m not really into hunt’s lore, but are there any theories on the latest update (“floors creaking” one)

[gilded umbra]

Scroll up, they were speculating about it earlier. ⬆️

[remote schooner]

really hoping that the devs finally add a way for us to interact with the chapters lore. Like a shooting range type of thing but make it at a Hunter camp, where you can see how the Hunters prepare to go back into the Bayou/Mountains and stock up on supplies and talk with fellow researchers or organizations.

[sinful bloom]

Could that be a heart? Maybe the sculptor heart

[rotund ferry]

starting w the basis of lore with hazmats 12 hour youtube playlist rn haha

[spiral mica]

Honestly not a bad idea. A little Saloon, bar, warehouse or something else where groups of hunters assemble to prepare for their next job would actually be a really cool addition to the game in my opinion. I'm picturing it being something like the SES hubs from Helldivers 2 which also acts as a sort of base of operations where players manage their loadouts and interact with their fellow teammates.

[remote schooner]

Unfortunately I doubt managing loadouts and interacting with teammates would further the speedy process of equipping your gear and loading into a match. I think it would serve best as a standalone “gun range” type of setting. Perhaps even keep some NPCs or something that the player can interact with to receive some additional immersion or connection to the lore. I just think it would give some extra depth to the game’s sense of competitive gameplay

[spiral mica]

Yeah, I also do like the idea of interactable NPCs in a environment like that. It reminds me of Victor from the tutorial showing us the basics of being a hunter.

[acoustic whale]

what do you guys think of hunt's lore direction?

[gilded umbra]

It seems to be getting back to its former greatness.

[acoustic whale]

nice

hope so too

[brittle patrol]

I would like to see the John Victor character back outside of the tutorial. He was a memorable presence and great introduction to the game.

[karmic swift]

what's the lore in a nuthsell?

i assumed some salem witch trials happened and boom world go crazy

[orchid tangle]

there's a god like entity shaping things into monsters in specific areas and every group that tries to deal with it is terrible at their job and people just murder each other

this trailer is the tldr of the game https://youtu.be/803IUEgOBfE

[real dove]

He is a hunter in game you can get

If that helps lol

[orchid tangle]

yeah you just gotta prestige 100 times

shrimple

[brittle patrol]

becoming like John Victor sounds like the definition of prestige

I also wonder about the motivations of the sculptor. Is it a sadistic entity who enjoys seeing humans suffer and inflict harm upon eachother or does it want to teach humanity a lesson by showing that the real monster was humans all along?

[upbeat kiln]

It doesn't have the capacity to be sadistic. It has minimal, if any intelligence at all. It is an entity that feeds on suffering and malice.

[brittle patrol]

it literally requires it to survive and exist?

[upbeat kiln]

There is a bit of an "egg or the chicken"-deal going on with the Sculptor. It seems as though "we" might have created it through the things that happened at Pelican Island Prison.

Or attracted it, rather. Is probably a better word.

[brittle patrol]

ive heard there had been experiments on prisoners. I find it an interesting situation how evil tends to create new forms of evil. How their criminal past might become an excuse to inflict evil upon them. I have yet to read more about the situation on pelican island.

the chicken&egg is an interesting comparison. It also reminds me of the ourouboros symbol for some reason

[brazen root]

Kind of a cool thematic link that mostly corrupted and broken people try to fight the corruption and it only corrupts and breaks then more

[fiery egret]

Just something random was the judge supposed to be reminiscent of Judge Holden from blood Meridian

[granite shard]

Yes

[brittle patrol]

His appearance and title seem inspired by him. He also reminds me of Anton Chigurch because he let's his judgement depend on drawing Tarot cards like the movie character uses a coin-toss to determine one's fate.

[brazen root]

Damn, anton chigurh hunter when

[acoustic whale]

i'd main him forever

[brazen root]

Same

[upbeat kiln]

Hey, nerds ❤️

I have a bit of a conundrum for all of you - and I'm looking for some theories.

The question is quite simple, yet the answer might not be:

How do people become hunters?

Context for the question: In the early days of Hunt, the "path", so to speak, was established in certain secretive steps. Were you a loner, a drifter, or a person who hung on the edges of society, you would occasionally be found in public places by a "drafter" or "recruiter" called Samson. These guys were all different people, but working under the same name. Samson would be link between potential hunters and the American Hunters Association, essentially their source of manpower, if you disregard train orphans or Sheriff Hardin's Convicts (TM). These people would then through the AHA receive the inoculation, be sworn to secrecy, as well as receive the ability to accept contracts, making them able to participate in the hunt.

But.. that was before. What about now?

The AHA has collapsed, which means there are now several broken or missing parts of the "user journey" for a person to become a hunter.

1. How do people even know about the hunting grounds?
2. How do they get there?

But more importantly than any other question;

3. Where are people getting their inoculation from - and how do they even know they need it?

[mint wind]

Preston background indicates that there are still some people interested in the boss tokens, so there might be some less apparent organizations fueling the Hunt again.

[granite shard]

People still get drawn by Kevin’s letters

In the video posted to bilibili for zhuge liu, she came to the US due to Kevin’s letter

[real cedar]

For Question 1&2:
Without the AHA guiding and recruiting them, Hunters have been kinda half-assing their way into the Incursions. If you take a look at the Hunters that have arrived since Preston was run out of town and specifically didn't know other Hunters before or already lived in the area, you get a general idea of how people get here:
Silver Spur & Skull Taker: Had a vision of Mammon's Gulch and followed it
Plains Warden, Kendoka: Just happened across it while wandering and saw opportunity
Bloody Red, Ghost Face, Servant of the Void, Harvest, Thorn Wreath: Just appeared one day (These types are the least likely to be involved in storylines so they're safe to be ignored)
Zhuge Liu: Answered the call for Hunters

For Question 3:
Statesman is part of the barebones system that keeps the bounties flowing, and the Welders + Witches show that there's still an auxiliary branch of people supporting the Hunt even without the AHA so that would explain how knowledge of the inoculation is imparted onto new arrivals.
For those who somehow wander right into the Hunting grounds, Journal of Micah Mitchell mentions how two random hunters had a syringe and the knowledge to perform the rites necessary to induct a Hunter on the spot, and Skull Taker similarly gets inoculated by stealing a syringe from a Hunter in the field. Seems enough of them just carry it on them, and those who don't just shoot someone on sight may instead recruit them.

Overall the AHA created enough of a surviving Hunter's community that they've become self-sufficient in recruiting new members, and new arrivals show up the same way they always have, drifting in or answering a distant call. It may also be that the Lawful pact is part of the barebones system now, since they got a great deal of wealth and knowledge - including a new way to create the inoculation - from interrogating Preston. If the storyline restarts, they might be reforming the AHA while investigating the Backers.

[noble scarab]

We also know there are other organizations or families; the witch hunter family, and the various monasteries in China that are likely to be in the know regarding the incursions and probably have ties to the AHA

There’s also surviving members of the some of the AHA branches, like the NY branch and at one point there was supposedly a western branch too that may or may not be canon right now. The voodoo community also is likely aware of the hunt and may even benefit from tokens or other hunt related materials

[noble scarab]

To be fair they were half assing it before, now it’s just maybe .25 assing it

[upbeat kiln]

Ah. The letters of Kevin. I had forgotten all about them!

It's an interesting idea about the whole ritual becoming a self-evident understanding within that closed underworld of hunters.

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all! Tips hat

I really dig the way Union Suit came to the Bayou. Just walked there in his pajamas

Lmao

[granite shard]

sofia also makes mention of lynch's serum being in everyone's veins as of desolation's wake so I'd honestly imagine that her recipe is probably known

[strange bane]

Another interesting case of a hunter joining the hunt without inoculating is the Redneck. Dude resisted the sculptor with good ole smoking

Also foolhardiness. Haha

Really cool how Kevin chose the Redneck for the Lunar Pact.

[real dove]

i wonder if they still get the innoc

"we dont care, you will get i"

t

[strange bane]

Lol probably so

The Infected is cool as well, I wonder if he took it and it’s the only thing keeping him alive? Or he didn’t take it and resists naturally

[real dove]

he took it

pretty sure thats in his lore

he was gonna be a grunt until innoc

i may recall that wrong

prolly in Rai's compendium

[granite shard]

I believe that's correct

[noble scarab]

Buddy is about halfway to grunt

It’s implied he’s gonna eventually go full zombie I think

We have a couple of hunters that are just dead, so I wonder if they ever even had the serum

I guess maybe only the Egyptian lady could have not gotten it

She seemed to have come to the hunt pre-cursed

[spiral mica]

Is it actually ever specified how many letters Kevin sent out, or at the very least do we have a list of all the current hunters who received one?
Right now all I can think of is Luz Mala, Zhuge Liu, and I think Alaz.

[granite shard]

Bone mason

He sent out a bunch throughout the world

[spiral mica]

So ideally there could still be hunters that have yet to receive these letters that we haven't heard from yet?

Honestly it's kind of funny how Kevin was out here handing out letters to would-be hunters like he's inviting characters to Super Smash Bros.

[noble scarab]

its been like a year or so since kev sent those out

it takes time for mail and for traveling so i guess we could have new hunters coming in from that for awhile yet

[strange bane]

Good evening Hunters. Tips Glass

https://tenor.com/view/anime-drink-gif-14121547894600611259

[gilded umbra]

Damnit Kevin

[short patio]

The letters of corruption

[regal trout]

So are legendaries who aren't sanctioned by the AHA implied to have gotten the serum by other means?

Or is it non canon

Like, Cain or Monroe for example

[gilded umbra]

This video is pure awesomeness. I remember it well. Thanks for posting it.

[strange bane]

Good morning Y’all!

[strange bane]

May the most foolish or Judgey among us do our best to win! Lol

[noble scarab]

I have both of those skins already so I have no dog in that fight

[livid relic]

Snowy weather confirmed 🤔 ?

[spiral mica]

I think that's been there since the map first came out.

Eventually I do hope we get a snowy weather condition, but I don't think it'll be any time soon.

[analog pendant]

We may dream🥹

[sturdy cliff]

odd question but does anyone know how the hunters are tying the steel ring to their guns that they hang charms off of

like I want to assume it's a cow hitch but it doesn't exactly look like one?

[sinful bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/welder-happy-work-fun-gif-25821496

This is how I presume

[sturdy cliff]

Probably

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all

[sinful bloom]

trust

[strange bane]

Does the Researcher have any legendary equipment/weapons? wanting to do a lore accurate build lol

Google failed me

[real cedar]

Harold Black has absolutely nothing, he was one of the earliest DLC characters and they didn't have accompanying equipment back then. Kinda surprising he hasn't gotten any BB items after all this time for how often he shows up.

[whole sinew]

Ay. Sorry I kniw this is the wrong channel. But everywhere else seems dead. But how do I get bloodbonds? Or whatever currency you need to buy new hunters?

[real cedar]

The closest might be the Berthier 1892 Marksman, as he was the writer for that mastery

[real cedar]

You either buy them, or complete the weekly challenges to get 50 BBs each week.

[whole sinew]

Ohhhhhh. Wait so what's the point of getting a bounty?

[strange bane]

Thanks Rai! You’re a real one Mister Scribe.

[real cedar]

Bounty gives big cash rewards to pay for more loadouts

[strange bane]

Crazy he never got any

You can also find small blood bond pouches in game like hunt dollar pouches

[whole sinew]

Ohhhh okay thx thx. I actually kinda like that. Feels like it doesn't drive the competitivity out more than it needs to lol

[analog pendant]

I Love the lore accurate builds, I have a lulu, a so-so Sofia, a Felis, a Hail Mary, and a so-so bloody red

[strange bane]

I hope you all are having a great evening

Cheers

[gilded umbra]

Cheers 🍻

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all.

[analog pendant]

Howdy hey, key meister

Keg

[upbeat kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSL2B_o85vA&ab_channel=Hunt%3AShowdown

@real cedar

Tarot cards are so back, bro

[granite shard]

oh man this looks sick

[zenith karma]

Here we go!!

[real dove]

HELL YEAH TAROT CARDS

[real cedar]

Wow, this is a blast from the past

If the True Deck is actually coming back after being shelved for 6 years, maybe we really are getting Lynch back too

That hand is a new hunter as well

[real dove]

Lmao

[upbeat kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-nerd-yelling-insult-gif-7884166

[real cedar]

💪 🤓

[brazen root]

the tower is covered in webs

[upbeat kiln]

nice catch!

[brazen root]

i will redirect that compliment to #hunt-general message

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all! I can see we’re eating decent today

[analog pendant]

Hey hey

[strange bane]

I appreciate you all

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-gif-gif-13325142117509609444

[zenith karma]

What’s the true deck about ? Kind of new to lore

[strange bane]

So, just a theory for now. But the Chariot card was pulled in a way that implies we might get the ability to block extract? If so, huge news. Still incredible aesthetics regardless

[zenith karma]

More than likely probably since when he pulled it horses went off which would make sense

[strange bane]

Incredible

My birth cards are the tower and the chariot so it’s interesting to see the thumbnail and the chariot in that order lol

Anyone born around the same time is probably gonna get an event buff lmao

Jk jk

[real cedar]

The true deck was something mentioned on the Hunt Showdown website back in early access:
Whenever I touch the True Deck I feel like my memories are bleeding. My blood remembers the truth. It stops leaving my body. But I know the cards are not real. The cards are not real… The cards are not real… The cards re not real…
as well as in one of the earliest pieces of lore around the same time, the Louisiana Case File.
TOMORROW MORNING WE SHALL BE ON OR WAY TO NEW ORLAN IF GOD WILLS IT. THERE WE SHALL FIND AND SLAY A SOUTHERN DJINN OF THIRST AND FILTH. ITS HUSK SHALL BE SOLD TO THE TRIBE OF AMERIKAN HUNTERS IN EXCHANGE FOR FORTY CARDS OF THE TRUE DECK.
After these two instances, it doesn't get mentioned by name anymore, though the character Lynch gets further mentions of using tarot cards.

It was all planned to be connected to a game feature mentioned in the roadmap back in 2018, a bullet point simply called 'Tarot Cards' back when they used to have roadmaps. That idea was abandoned up until now.

[zenith karma]

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-hat-tip-how-are-you-hello-goodbye-gif-22206160

Thank you kind sir

Wasn’t lynch mentioned recently on one of the charms I’m pretty sure?

[real cedar]

The most recent mention of her was in Ambrose Hazen's biography, where he used to perform errands for her then discovers some hidden truth that terrifies him. Before that, she was talked about in the Desolation's Wake event, as Hunters are concerned about her being a witch - especially The Witch Hunter who has a blood vendetta against her - and what she might be doing in the background.

[zenith karma]

Pretty funny tho how one of lore mentions husk doesn’t that kind of describe the recent image we had? I’m really excited to see more! Also what was in the boxes or was it never mentioned again?

[real cedar]

It's kept as a mystery, to imply she was doing some real screwed up shit

[zenith karma]

Gotcha makes sense

[real cedar]

Lynch is behind a lot of weird stuff. She created the hive bombs, she created the Drowned Rat and Drowned Kid and Captain Laffite by resurrecting them. She's sacrificed people to demons just to use ropes made of human skin to capture said demons and grind them down into the inoculations Hunters use to be immune to Corruption. She's been out of the story for a while now, trapped in the Land of the Dead, but I've been going crazy seeing all the tiny connection that might be heralding her return. Harvest: Midnight's intro animation uses her knife, and the whole Tarot trilogy feels so connected to her.

[zenith karma]

Sooo the empress that we’ve had mentioned before in garden of the witch and the end of event text. Would that imply her maybe or someone else?

[zenith karma]

That’s so cool! Harvest is my favorite hunter lol

[real cedar]

It's very possible that's her, yeah. Her card is the Red King in the Incidental Tarot deck that she uses but it could just as well be the Empress in the True Deck.

The line from Let Us Prey that mentions the Six of Swords alongside the Empress is also important, as the Six of Swords was a card she pulled in an early story, among other cards.

[zenith karma]

I was about to mention that lol

Pretty sure the end of event text for judgement of the fool says empress soon to rise or something like that I can’t remember

[real cedar]

Fortunes have misaligned. Prophecies have missed their targets–dropped dead–rotted. Something whispers through fate to each Hunter. A promise of misread omens. A rumble from below ground. An empress soon to rise.

[strange bane]

Rumble from below?…those words were used recently no?

[real cedar]

In the image teaser about a creak, and in the Prescient's new skin blurbs, True Exile and Blind Justice

[strange bane]

Yoooo

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[real cedar]

Literally me 😂

[strange bane]

We going mad to knowledge beyond our comprehension today lads

We making it outta the land of the dead with this one

[zenith karma]

Love it tho!

[strange bane]

I genuinely will get a fear reaction seeing lynch in game lol

Such a crazy villainess

Straight flayed hunters

[zenith karma]

Haha hopefully she looks terrifying

[strange bane]

Created the drowned as Mister Rai mentioned

[real cedar]

If she does get put in the game, hopefully she's a boss and there's a story of her hubris catching up and her getting devoured by the Sculptor. I don't want to see her as a Hunter, that's too lowly

[zenith karma]

Do you think it’s possible to be a boss? This event?

[granite shard]

I feel like they tend to talk bosses up a lot more but it would be cool if this essentially serves as a prequel to a big lynch focused story next year

ending 2026 with lynch as a boss would be sick as hell

[radiant tulip]

did the jesse buchana lore change? i swear the description use to read something along the lines of "...no longer a street thug"

[real cedar]

Yes, all of the Tier 1-3 hunter bios changed to be more connected to the lore and game world.

[radiant tulip]

ah i see thank you

[real cedar]

We've only gotten the first image and teaser so far, around this same time for the Murder Circus we didn't know the Ursa Mortis existed yet, and similarly for Scorched Earth it took up until the trailer 2 weeks before the event for a new monster to be revealed, and then we got more teasers about what it was.
I'm certain the teaser image we just got is biological of some kind, and the webbed up towers also point towards that. It could be our usual Spider getting enhanced and rampaging for the event, or it could be something new.

[granite shard]

that's fair but I feel like a boss is a lot bigger to tease than something that's on kinda meathead tier

like rotjaw had so much buildup

the reptillian questline was all buildup for her so I feel like a new boss would be on that tier or above

[real cedar]

Eh, Hellborn didn't get that. Mammon's Gulch and 1896 got that buildup instead with Desolation's Wake teasing it. Scrapbeak also only got his event as an introduction. How they treat each addition evolves over the years so it's up in the air how much importance each addition gets.

[granite shard]

Hellborn was part of the whole new map thing tho

Maybe I’m wrong but this doesn’t have boss teaser vibes

[sinful bloom]

@granite shard hellborn isn't a boss tho

[granite shard]

wild target is basically a miniboss

[real cedar]

Wild Target, Boss Target, same difference. It gives a bounty so it's a boss

[granite shard]

there's also no way lynch would be a wild target, she would be a full boss for sure

[sinful bloom]

It's just special AI

[granite shard]

what is any boss but a special ai lol

[sinful bloom]

I can't one shot other bosses with BDB

[granite shard]

yes you can

I do that all the time when I don't want to deal with them

[sinful bloom]

So you with one throwable item can kill a boss

[granite shard]

yes

[sinful bloom]

Which item

[granite shard]

the big dynamite bundle?

[sinful bloom]

Which boss

[granite shard]

all of them?

[real cedar]

mainly works on butcher and scrapbeak, spider and assassin are more annoying to try and kill that way

[granite shard]

yeah it's harder on SB and assassin but it's easier now that throwables explode on contact w lamps and stuff

[sinful bloom]

Honestly if I can see how assassin is done in one shot Ill take it

[granite shard]

like if you just throw it onto a lamp when the assassin or the spider is next to you, you might go down yourself but you can just have your buddies rez you and get your health back

[sinful bloom]

I see

Lynch is spider bam

[exotic cradle]

This hunter is currently not available for recruitment in the game.

[zenith karma]

That’s Leon ulitsky I’m pretty sure

[real cedar]

same clothes but he's the new version

Hmm yeah it does look more blue, hard to say

[zenith karma]

Ahh I gotcha u

Do you think old t1 to t3s would come back scribe?

[real cedar]

They used old hunters in the Judgement of the Fool trailer, so random uses such as this teaser don't mean anything yet

[zenith karma]

I mean I hope the do cuz the lore on them I liked a lot

How they had different story’s etc

[noble scarab]

We speculated on the old hunters coming back last time and crytek came out and said no

So I wouldn’t get my hopes up

As much as we we want them back

[zenith karma]

I mean not to get into anything but why add them in the shots just builds false hope imo

[brazen root]

I gotta say, I think tarot is lame as shit, the bottom of the barrel of mysticism, but I'm guessing the hunt team are cooking up something cool

[real cedar]

The problem is that it's overdone these days after a century of fiction. It was more legit at the time

[brazen root]

It very much could be overexposure, yeah

[noble scarab]

As far as mystical systems go it’s pretty tame and likely to appeal to more people

[brazen root]

I'd probably feel the same about like, hermetic alchemy or something if it was as popularized as tarot

[noble scarab]

Crytek could have us out here gutting chickens and reading entrails or using the goetia

[real cedar]

It's a close third I'd say, behind astrology.

[brazen root]

I wonder if astrology actually takes the number one spot

[real cedar]

Maybe in general, but not as much in fiction I think

[brazen root]

Probably not

[sinful bloom]

I main it would be cool if they did something like blood sacrifice like cut ur hand bam something happens the tarot cards seems cool but man it's just my taste

Also yes we have some sorts of magic but nothing hinted at magic cards unless I have missed something

[dense stag]

You mentioned ropes: in the teaser, the right hand of the hunter is covered in ropes. Might be Lynch? No idea about the lore in general tho

[real cedar]

The ropes in the lore were thick strands of human flesh dried and then entwined, this new Hunter's ropes just looks like regular hemp rope. Also, when the hunter gets hit, it's a male grunt, so it definitely can't be Lynch.

[dense stag]

Got you, thanks!

[sinful bloom]

NVM should've read the full thing from LOL

[strange bane]

Good Afternoon Y’all

[gilded umbra]

Wormbite Was Here 🪱

[granite shard]

One of the most delightful map update things

Wish they did more like that tbh

[gilded umbra]

I’m also noticing little added details like more luggage at Lawson Station. 🧳 🚉

[fickle sluice]

#lore-discussion message

I knew it! Or at least I am confident that I might have been right lol

[real dove]

Orchard of the Hanged Man would be cool

And yeah, match with the mechanic of the songs

[real dove]

Welp

👀

[zenith karma]

Um the new trailer is straight fire

So excited

[spiral mica]

Yeah I just watched it. I'm glad I don't have Arachnophobia.

[gilded umbra]

Spiders have 6 MMR. 🕷️

[real cedar]

Welp we were both right. Not a boss, but it is a creature

[granite shard]

New creature is cool!

[gilded umbra]

I wonder if it will have minions like the Meathead has leeches. 🤔

[mint wind]

The creachur

[brazen root]

Wait, so is it echoes of a nightmare or web of the empress

[real cedar]

From what little we saw, it looks like they're pod creatures that might serve as obstacles that you don't want to wake up as they'll swarm you.

[real cedar]

Web of the Empress got the big title splash screen so it's definitely that.

[gilded umbra]

This event is going to be crawling with awesomeness. 🕷️

[last summit]

i do 😵‍💫

[granite shard]

I’m thinking of that one apex map

[brazen root]

And i bet the empress is a tarot card rightt