lore-discussion

[earnest jungle]

YOU HEARD THE FEMBOY! PUT IT ALL ON THE NUMBER SIX!

[warm lagoon]

done

[earnest jungle]

On a side note

[earnest jungle]

I do think it would be interesting if they introduced like interactable world weapons like gatling guns, or cannons with limited ammunition and locked in a fixed position around the map.

though I'm not sure how balanced that would be

[noble scarab]

Probably balanced but the target areas would become ghost towns

[earnest jungle]

That could be balanced by randomizing the spawning locations.

[noble scarab]

It would contribute to game sense and knowledge over time

[earnest jungle]

that is fair

and it would probably only worsen the chances of games descending into stalemates

[noble scarab]

X area is a possible area for a Gatling, be careful walking there

It’s like common double spawns

[earnest jungle]

Returning to the lore what's your take on the Brute

[noble scarab]

I like the brute and the attached story

It’s a return to form as far as lore goes

Hopefully we see grahm as a hunter one day or get some closure on him

[earnest jungle]

I feel like the inclusion of the references to previous stories serves a double purpose.

Narratively it characterizes Graham as someone in the know; a veteran who is intimately familiar with the Hunt.

But it’s also a nod to us the audience; an indication that the author is familiar with the narrative of Hunt Showdown demonstrated with allusions to stories told only in the book of monsters and book of weapons.

[noble scarab]

Like rai mentioned it also confirms some of our dime novel stories

[earnest jungle]

Confirms at least these are not stories Collins pulled from thin air.

(This is just me being my usual conservative self)

[real dove]

Tbf we've had prof his stories aren't fake

Just fluffed

It seems

[real cedar]

Proof the characters involved aren't fake at least, idk if the Twins really did mythological trials for the Lord of the Dead or that Lynch pulled a homunculus out of the ground to fight a giant snake, so in the same way a visceral human sacrifice could've been one of his fluffs

[granite shard]

It’s be funny if the most outlandish tales (mythological trials) were true and the most mundane (black coat’s death) were false

[earnest jungle]

Lol exactly

Lynch and Brewer’s homoerotic ritual sacrifice happened word for word as described but actually it occurred under a willow tree not a cypress tree.

[spiral mica]

What was that piece of older lore that suggested the existence of Dragons?

[real cedar]

Rittmeister German Letter from the Louisiana Case files

[spiral mica]

Yeeeeah that's the one!

The whole idea of Dragons gets me into the idea of vampires and Dracula. I'm honestly surprised they did a circus clown event before anything vampire related.

[real cedar]

Glad they backed off from that idea rather than let an early throwaway line become bedrock foundation tbh. Hunt works so well without myths and cryptids

[spiral mica]

Yeah, and that's also a fair assessment as well. Hunt is very cool for its rather unique take on zombies and everything like that.

I do like the subtle references to myths and cryptids in Hunt, but I'm not really sure if I'd want a whole event or wild target themed around something like that like I see some people asking for.

If I had a dollar for every time someone mentioned a Wendigo wild target I could probably revive and fund the entire lore narrative in Hunt myself.

[noble scarab]

i still think we should've gotten a werewolf of some kind by now

between the Rougarou legends and the seeming focus on wolves and the moon we had at the outset of traitors moon

[spiral mica]

Like I said I think stuff like Rougarou is a nice reference in the form of a weapon skin, but I don't really think I'd want to see the actual myth as a wild target or anything like that.

It does kinda bum me out that we don't have wolf hellhounds on Mammon's gulch though.

But I'm glad we're getting the bear back without all the circus stuff on it. I hope we'll get the opportunity to fight the bear at grizzly lodge because that would be so fitting.

[earnest jungle]

I would like to see Hunt's take on stuff like werewolves, dragons, and vampires.

[grave dagger]

I can see vampies, and werewolves. But Dragons is wild.

[earnest jungle]

In the way that the Butcher is Hunt's take on a Frankenstein and the Spider is Hunt's take on giant spiders

[earnest jungle]

I actually did have an idea for a "Dragon"

Based on the Indus Worm: a sort of gigantic water devil like thing

[grave dagger]

If you can pull this off I will be surprised.

Okay, so you don't mean like a winged beast of fire.

[earnest jungle]

I mean we could give it wings: but I was kind of like imagining some kind of abominable combination of this.

[grave dagger]

Bayou shai halud

[earnest jungle]

We could combine it with like a wyvern/jersy devil type deal

I was thinking some kind of bug-man fused thing and it's wings could be like horibly malformed human arms spider/brute/ursa mortis style.

[grave dagger]

Odd, but interesting

[earnest jungle]

Oh god an idea: some kind of horrible parastic wasp that infested a human host and turned them into this larvae/demon/dragon thing

[grave dagger]

If the West virginia thing got any traction, Moth man might be a cool thing, or something similar. There own brand of moth man.

[earnest jungle]

They could pay tribute to the real Owlman by having it to be an unusually large snowy owl mutated into some horrific monstrosity

[grave dagger]

Plenty of potential.

[earnest jungle]

Wait no

I have an even better idea

They could do something with the greatest of all the American cryptids

THE LOVELAND FROG MAN!

[grave dagger]

See, frog boss would be dope.

[earnest jungle]

A poision wildcard bounty

[grave dagger]

I'm off to bed.

[earnest jungle]

Give it a fucked up back like the suriname toad

[grave dagger]

I was gonna sleep, without that image in my had.

[earnest jungle]

those are it's eggs

[grave dagger]

I......I know this...

[earnest jungle]

They sink into their back and then the babbies live under her skin

[grave dagger]

And then when they're big they pop out from their back hole homes, yes I KNOW

[earnest jungle]

😄

[livid crypt]

Saw a vid where those "kids" swam out and back again through those holes

It's certainly an interesting thing

[fast rover]

@real dove is "Graham" the Fool ? @versed adder wants to know

[granite shard]

Nope, different guy

[fast rover]

[granite shard]

Seems to be a brand new character

[fast rover]

Thank yooou

[granite shard]

🫡

[primal quest]

Question about lore someone might be able to answer, with the post Malone event afterwards what happened to the troupes?

[mint wind]

Don’t know, don’t care, move on from this painful hiatus for good.

[real cedar]

The circus packed up and somehow entered the Land of the Dead (a previously near impossible feat that took great sacrifice trivialized to comic book warping with a magic rock) and whoever was in the other troupes realized with the circus gone they didn't have to act silly anymore.

[primal quest]

So are they just roaming or are they joining pacts?

[granite shard]

there haven't been any pacts for awhile so just roaming

[mint wind]

They just did stuff.

[noble scarab]

But also the rock was possibly not magic after all

[real cedar]

That's even worse to consider. The circus enters and exits the land of the dead at will with the power of friendship

[noble scarab]

Post Malone aside you’d think the sane and not corrupted AHA members (all ~2 of them) wouldn’t want a traveling incursion

Seems like that’d be a major breech of the whole secrecy thing and a liability because it spreads the infection around

They should be motivated to remove the circus from existence

[real cedar]

They'd be more worried if the Circus existed in any real narrative fashion but it's effectively a Christmas Special spinoff in the grand scheme of things

[noble scarab]

They’re meta aware that it was barely canon

[granite shard]

Annoying that there’s so much shit that references it tho

I think they were like trying to super justify it in lore to make it be like “see guys there’s a reason for post Malone to be here!”

But all that ended up doing was make it just. Extra relevant

[grave dagger]

I'm sort of indifferent to the PM event. But I'm leaning slightly more on the side of it "It didn't fuggn' happen"

[real cedar]

Chances are that's how the narrative will go forward with Harvest of Ghosts and Murder Circus.
Garden of the Witch has the chance to be relevant by referencing the welders and witches as backline support in later stories but those other two events will likely leave their hunters in the dust, with the exception of connected Hunters being used in group scenes like Weird Sister & Night Mother or Carter & Desert Rose.

[noble scarab]

Night Mother is such an underrated addition

She fits with the theme and has a cool background and hunter animation

[real cedar]

https://x.com/HuntShowdown/status/1931033345900859753

Hunt: Showdown (@HuntShowdown)

“Justice? Retribution? Revenge? Come, throw it all away with me. Throw the law into the fire.” - The Fool

X · Jun 6, 2025, 5:00 PM

Gee bill, two posts in one day?

[real dove]

Redaction

👀

[earnest jungle]

It would appear it’s both actually

[real dove]

Date isn't official and was accidentally posted but isn't corect

They aren't locked in

[strange bane]

Woooo the fool looks wicked

[real cedar]

Damn, and here I was all proud of my accurate guess weeks ago 😅

[real dove]

In a VC with the CMs rn so can confirm say it isn't locked locked in rn

[brazen root]

yeah interesting

[real cedar]

Guess it'll be properly announced when it's really locked in rather than in a footnote

[real dove]

Yeah 😅

Sorry

Classic issue

We're hoping to get a more official post

[strange bane]

I really dig the design of the fool, excited as all hell for this event

[real dove]

Yeah! They looks dope

[strange bane]

Last time I was this hyped was probably tide of desolation

I was glued to that lore and vibe lol

Cheers guys, lore channel best channel

[real dove]

Hoping to hear more on the lore side

[strange bane]

Y’all keep my love for the game alive daily , always excited to see what the wizened council has to say

Mad lore scribes

Remember the Judge is just a man. Don’t let him catch you unawares!!! Haha

I won’t let turncoat or the kid near outhouses this event

[fast rover]

bowp

Alpa I'm excited and I really like the vibe

I prefer this vibe of crazy vs Post Malone vibe of crazy

@warm lagoon where you at

[warm lagoon]

here, reading chat and doing research

[brazen root]

@real cedar so

[granite shard]

please god more lore 🙏

[brazen root]

based on that video

[fast rover]

Shits fucked

[brazen root]

and on the fact that the judge was from colorado

mayhaps

just maybe

the judge is on a personal revenge mission after the silly mode joker burned down the courthouse lmfao

cant tell if the video takes place in desalle or if they're just reusing assets tho 🤔

[manic lichen]

Most likely DeSalle

[real cedar]

It would fit with what we've seen so far. Doc Redmartin makes problems up in Colorado, gets bonked by Judge, doubles down, burns the courthouse, leaves to go back to Louisiana, Pale Judge follows with a vengance

[brazen root]

it very much could be taking place like right here

but idk if that is canonical or not

or just a convenience thing

[noble scarab]

Previously it was a bank

Could’ve been reworked or just reused in a trailer

[real cedar]

DeSalle is standing in for the Judge's courthouse in that scene I believe, the previous teaser showed the same building but extended. Just like the Conspirator's trial taking place in DeSalle but actually taking place on an island in the Atlantic

[brazen root]

hah i think they just revealed another desalle change with this trailer

the trees above have been made yellow lmao

[real cedar]

Yeah I think I noticed some of that in the Pelican Island Prison comparison

They're leaning more on the autumn vibe

[brazen root]

yup

[granite shard]

which is pog honestly

[brazen root]

how tf does the jonkler manage to speak with that mask

[real cedar]

It's something you learn. Jim Carrey learned how to enunciate properly while wearing huge teeth for The Mask

[real dove]

Bro I love the goldenness of desalle

I can't wait

[noble scarab]

I liked that each map was roughly a season

[brazen root]

hmmmm

[gilded umbra]

I miss that place. 🤠

[brazen root]

same, looking forward to the reunion soon

[gilded umbra]

It would make sense if Stillwater Bayou is foggy often.

[real cedar]

So on the one hand, these multiple teasers could be telling the story in place of Lore.
On the other hand, they've got a VA for the Judge AND The Fool, unlike the last couple events that only had one VA for narration. If they've got the voices, perhaps they've got a story to voice.

[orchid tangle]

I'm never being nice to crytek again

[gilded umbra]

I like this rivalry of The Judge versus The Fool. I think it could have a nice narrated story.

[noble scarab]

Wooo free scam ^ @real dove or someone please take care of that

[orchid tangle]

feel like I just have to imagine the fool is thinking his dialogue in the trailer since nobody could speak that clearly with that getup so he just looks like a dude randomly posing around to any onlookers

[earnest jungle]

Returning to the timeline question of the Judgement of the Fool I think it goes something like this: Judge Winneford puts Doc Redmartin on trial sometime prior to 1894. What happens next isn't clear but at some point a mob of Redmartin's victims disfigure and transform him into the Fool; who then returns and burns Judge Winneford's court house to the ground transforming him into The Pale Judge. The Pale Judge chases Redmartin out of Colorado and across the country seeking revenge. By 1894 The Pale Judge is searching for him in Louisiana; accompanied by Ezekiel Stringfellow the two track him down to Lewis Saloon in lower DeSalle only for The Fool to once again escape. At some point The Fool arrives in Stillwater Bayou where he is given shelter by Dorothy Alice.

Actually a thought occurs to me.

[orchid tangle]

shoutout to Dorothy for seeing a guy with a disfigured face, torn clothes, and a big dynamite bundle strapped to his back and deciding she should hide him in her family property

[earnest jungle]

Silver Spur initially contracted TB sometime around 1891, and an unknown amount of time later he receives a vision of Mammon's Gulch oveerrun with monsters inspiring him to become a Hunter.

It's possible then that the incursion in Mammon's Gulch-like other deadzones-did not simply come out of nowhere in 1896 but was silently festering beneath the surface and as early as 1891.

Perhaps then Doc Redmartin was-like Avis Wyndham Jr after him-was offered up as a scapegoat for what was going on in Louisiana.

A Snake Oil Salesman poisoning people with his cure-alls driving them to violent madness would be a very convinent way to cover up a sudden increase in mutilated bodies and violent shambling zombies.

[noble scarab]

Wouldn’t redmartin have started out in Desalle in order for him to lose his winnie to the bar keeper?

[earnest jungle]

Not necessarily

[supple smelt]

HOLY SHIT NEW TWITCH DROPS?

finally

it better not be 2 new charms

[real cedar]

It looks like at minimum a new charm and a new Pax skin

It's vaguely similar to Certain Victory in the filigree but the design on the cylinder is new

[granite shard]

had a dream last night that there was a press release talking abt the runtime of dialogue for characters in judgement of the fool

If only

[brazen root]

lmfao

[granite shard]

it was set up like:
The Fool - 400 minutes
The Pale Judge - 10 minute
Sofia - 4 minutes (for some reason?)
The Phantom - 0 minutes (why was he there? I specifically remember them just having a bunch of characters listed with 0 minutes)

[strange bane]

Let’s hope that’s a sign lol

[gilded umbra]

Dreams are a manifestation of our own thoughts, an omen, or a combination of both.

[brazen root]

what in the world was the fool monologuing about

[granite shard]

I didn't get to find out

I mostly just pogged out over sofia getting voice acting again

my priorities are real, especially in dreams

[earnest jungle]

https://x.com/huntshowdown/status/1931727839172186619?s=46&t=zC9Tb8v5tufbP2PHKXyeWw

Hunt: Showdown (@HuntShowdown)

They fled here once, thinking it was safe.

Now it’s just another place where the past lingers...and something else waits.

The Fool's Hideout: A new location tied to old sins.

X · Jun 8, 2025, 2:59 PM

More evidence backing up my theory that this began in Mammon’s Gulch

[gilded umbra]

Interesting 🤔

[supple smelt]

Guy on the left out of frame has the sleeves from the earlier teaser p sure

The fool’s sleeves are different

Eh maybe not

[granite shard]

fingies are the same for the fool in the two teasers-- I think we're getting two skins

[earnest jungle]

That’s what I was thinking: One for the Fool, one for Doc Red Martin, one for the judge, and then one for Alice

[real cedar]

Guy on the left is The Spirited

[earnest jungle]

Hell yeah

[noble scarab]

What is going on in the bottom right? It’s glowing, which is giving event totem vibes

Maybe just fire but the colors a bit weird

[real cedar]

Might just be ambient fire like some supply points have, ye

Oh shit

[real cedar]

I think this is depicting the Fool's Hideout. That spot normally doesn't exist in the map, right? And there's text on the supply wagon in the background

[glossy karma]

Something like the circus tent?

[supple smelt]

ah yeah it might be a circus like thing

cause they probably got good feedback on that

[orchid tangle]

I had a dream last night that after a few days of aim training I went to do a solo hunt match and managed to miss 3 shots on a hunter infront of me who was walking in a straight like and hit 3 shots that didn't kill.
all my dreams are just minor inconveniences nowadays

[tiny apex]

Why are Hive mothers white women? Don’t want to offend anyone but according to the lore and original account all her children were “colored”. You would think she was as well.

[real cedar]

There's two of them. The white dress is Mrs. Shell, while the red dress one is a second Hive

[tiny apex]

Oohh that’s a nice detail

Also it’s mega freaky seeing the right one T pose

[neat juniper]

Imagine you wake up and there she is

[tiny apex]

I found a other mention of Grahm

Same spelling

Nvm grahms dead

[quaint pawn]

could still work right? brute could've been made in the past

[real cedar]

Nah, Grahm the veteran Hunter wouldn't quit to become a land surveyor

[quaint pawn]

okay true

would be funny though, some psychopath hunter just randomly quitting to do a random fairly peaceful job

[tiny apex]

Surveying mamons gulch incursion maybe

But yeah

Weird to reuse a name that seems so important

[gilded umbra]

The Sculptor works in mysterious ways.

[real cedar]

It happens sometimes, Alison Davis from Bad as they Seem and Eddie Davis the bartender

[smoky anchor]

So…..uhh….you know the corruption or whatever it’s called…..does it instantly turn everyone into zombies/armoured/etc? I ask this cuz the horses are all wounded laying on the ground, and they can’t be down there that long before dying

or do these events come in bursts over weeks, like the preacher turning into an immo, the mother turning into a hive, the water losing all its wildlife to the water devils

[noble scarab]

It depends

[earnest jungle]

It sweeps through areas like a sickness; a spiritual plague that kills then resurrects it's hosts as shambling vectors of corruption. Sometimes it takes months, sometimes it takes day but always it takes. Little by little then all at once corruption takes hold.

[real dove]

dunno about spiritual

and it doesnt kill

its akin to cordyceps really

for grunts at least

they have locked in syndrome

per the grunt lore

[earnest jungle]

Based on the interview with Mrs. Florence Frank and John Vokel I do think it's reasonable to conclude that in some cases the corruption does kill its host.

Although maybe I'm just reading into things; I assume the Flu that she and Ariel D'aunoy mention is a euphemism for the corruption John does talk about hunters burrying the dead only to kill them again.

And Dr Winkler expressed concerns over whether or not the grunt he was disecting was truly dead and mentions that the heart of the grunt continues to pulse and it's body twitch even after it's seeming death,

So perhaps "kill" then is the wrong word.

They're not alive but neither are they dead.

They're something else that should not be.

[uneven island]

I have a real question when are we gonna get more lore about the sculptor or the blood cult that was in the game from the start? (the night seer and the acolyte

[real cedar]

Chances are slim for the Night of the Hunter to get more lore - though not impossible, as we last heard in Update 2.0 about Nadia Orville trying to understand what comes next after their prophesized apocalypse failed to happen.
The Sculptor will get more lore here and there over time since it's a part of most things going on. The new Brute lore that just dropped gave us a small insight into what it looks like when the Sculptor takes possession of a new creature for the first time.

[uneven island]

true true ... i guess just some more in game stuff would be nice like another hunter skin for the cult or more gun skins that belong to the cult and were still waiting on that spider (the boss) themed hunter

[upbeat kiln]

https://youtu.be/27L_7C4eHhc

[real cedar]

Yoooo a legit Crytek collab 💪
So does that mean this is all canon lore?

[upbeat kiln]

Yes ❤️

[real cedar]

Welp, time to start transcribing 😂

[upbeat kiln]

Ah. Hold your horses. Haha it's still my interpretation of the lore. So it's Crytek's lore but my words

[real cedar]

Ahh gotcha 👍

[granite shard]

Good to hear that there’s a story then!

[real cedar]

It's like oh shit a new Hazmat video to watch!
But then, oh shit he got the lore from somewhere and I don't want to spoil myself

[strange bane]

Hazmat the Goat!!! Yeehaw

[upbeat kiln]

Can someone nuke him? 🙂

[supple smelt]

my god, you’ve gone red

[granite shard]

I sure have

[supple smelt]

allergies amirite

[granite shard]

real

to think all this started bc I was like "idk maybe if I'm orange people will stop questioning basic lore things like "sometimes there's unreliable narrators" as much"

(in case you're wondering, it doesn't stop. it never stops)

[supple smelt]

Wdym? When someone puts things to paper they’re always telling the truth

The only solution is becoming a dev, then instead of not believing you they’ll just think you’re stupid and wrong

[granite shard]

nods nods, this is a reasonable answer

[tiny apex]

aren't all the narrators unreliable?

Mosto fi t is the Researcher saing here's wht I'veh eard followed by some recordings or some journals from random people or known hunters

[granite shard]

Yes exactly lol

[real cedar]

Yeah that's the nature of epistolary storytelling, but some characters in Hunt are especially unreliable narrators

[strange bane]

Hazmat , man I genuinely appreciate you holy moly lol

[granite shard]

There’s things you can generally take at face value (the event stories largely are that way, aside from Devil’s moon which was done in a more “traditional” hunt storytelling way that imo led to it being the weakest of the moon trilogy) and then stuff that’s more questionable

[strange bane]

I’ll stop glazing, cheers all have a great day/evening

[tiny apex]

I think the most reliable nerrerator is probably the asylum dr notes and the AHA or AMA? Soething like that

[spiral mica]

Do we know if there is an ETA for that ghost of Blanchett Graves dlc that was announced on the 1st? Or are we thinking a release time is likely closer to this upcoming event?
I ask because I could've sworn I read somewhere they were revealing it a few days later, but it's been a week now.

[earnest jungle]

Holy shit man you’ve hit the big leagues now I’m so proud of you

[granite shard]

Probably sometime around the event launch. Not sure exactly tho

[real cedar]

We should see it appear on the steam store as upcoming soon

Though for the last while DLCs have been dropping in the last week of the month so who knows

[spiral mica]

Yeah, I can only find the announcement on the discord from the 1st and it just says coming soon.

It also doesn't reveal anything beyond her dusters, and that it's a woman.

I just didn't know if there was anything else besides that little bit of info we have.

[real cedar]

Nothing yet. They do the weapon teaser, then they showcase the whole thing on Steam, then it releases.

[spiral mica]

Makes sense. I'm assuming you're also right about it releasing much later in the month.

[real cedar]

Hopefully it drops alongside the event and we're just blasted with content between the update, event, twitch drops, and DLC

[tiny apex]

the song drops in 9 days I think

will they not drop at the same time?

[spiral mica]

I'm also hoping we're getting more than just a pax skin and a charm for the twitch drops. I've already got most of the previous twitch drop stuff so I'd like something new.

I think last twitch drops I was even getting a bunch of stuff that wasn't originally twitch drop content because I already had pretty much everything.

[granite shard]

I miss twitch drop hunters

[tiny apex]

Is the lore that they twitch a lot?

[spiral mica]

Kill buyer definitely does

[tiny apex]

Why do a bunch of people have things on their names?

[real cedar]

Things?

[upbeat kiln]

you're so sweet ❤️

[earnest jungle]

Tags you mean?

[tiny apex]

oh are they official server tags?

like | Student of Scognamiglio and Rotjaw Appreciator what are those

[earnest jungle]

Oh those are just self given titles

[real cedar]

They're like Hunter titles in a way Idk who started it but people just put those titles in for fun

[tiny apex]

Now i fit in

[real cedar]

Doing some more research on that right now, so far it's looking like the most common schedule is to drop the teaser image 2 weeks ahead, and then the steam wishlist 1 week before, with some exceptions where the wishlist was like 2-5 days before or the teaser was just a day or two before the wishlist.
They also sometimes do Steam wishlist 2 weeks before, like the last two DLC. So around the 18th is possible, or it could be around the 25th. We should get the steam wishlist pretty soon either way.

[tiny apex]

I hope we get a skin for the Dulch 96 Bullseye

[real cedar]

There's a fair few weapons out there that dropped a year or more ago and still need a non-Event skin. Dolch Bullseye, the Marathon family, Berthier Riposte, Infantry 73L family, Springfield Bayonet, LeMat Marksman, Scottfield Precision, Railroad Hammer.
Poor things are half forgotten 😔 that's how it goes when you're lower pick rate

Cenny Trauma is finally getting its first non-event skin, crazy that it's skin #4. Centennial is so popular.

[orchid tangle]

I hope we get a bow skin we need one rn

[spiral mica]

Thanks for this info. I'm wondering if during that 2 week period we might get a non-dlc blood bond hunter announced as well, and then subsequently released a little after the event itself like we saw with Pappy Redneck and Desert Rose.

Although we didn't get anything like that last event, but my assumption stems from the idea that this upcoming event will be much larger than the previous one.

[real cedar]

I'm under the assumption that those were mistakes of some kind. Giving a BB hunter a weapon skin in the battlepass but them not showing up just doesn't seem like an intentional thing, despite it happening twice

[spiral mica]

True, and I remember pointing out how strange it was that Bloody Red was depicted with a spear skin in her promotional material, and then just recently we finally got it.

I do think this event will be a lot bigger than Garden of the Witch though since we're getting back Desalle, rain, and the bear. I feel like it'll be in similar size to Harvest of Ghosts since during that event we got fog and Stillwater back, but not quite as large as Murder circus was.

My biggest hope is that they'll put a little more emphasis on the lore narrative side of things this time around, but I still don't see them bringing back event stories unfortunately.

[real cedar]

Idk whether the story is in the game or if they'll just put it on the website like the Brute lore, but there is 100% an event story of some kind. Hazmat just put out a 10min summary of it today, he got early access.

[granite shard]

Thank god for that honestly

Sad if it’s not in game but I’ll be glad to have a narrative return

[noble scarab]

Where was it mentioned about the rain? I didn’t think it was confirmed for this event

[orchid tangle]

a full size chapter lore about the fool, pale judge, and whatever weirdness they're bound to cause would be amazing imo

iirc the point of the ursa lore in short was like doing big evil actions can result in corruption in it. Judging by the fools actions thus far he could definitely make that happen a lot more

[spiral mica]

I saw he posted something, but I haven't watched it yet. I'll have to go ahead and tune in.

[real cedar]

I'll watch it once I've read the story, I don't want to spoil myself before the event

[spiral mica]

Now that you say it I'll probably do that instead. I'm really curious what they do for this event.

[orchid tangle]

so docs not the only one disfiguring himself? or another skin of him

def isn't one of the three hunters we've heard about

and his hair kinda matches

[real cedar]

I can't tell if that's a new Ranger 73 Talon or if it's just Death's Breath

[granite shard]

Probably another skin of him

I’d imagine that’s the yellow jacket with pinstripes we saw in that one image

[real cedar]

Damn, they referenced Daredevil Born Again

New Auto-4 Shorty skin

[granite shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HThYAlBxOV8

[real cedar]

That Sparks Sniper we saw in a previous image is confirmed to be an agnostic skin set

[upbeat kiln]

Haha, so as I wanted to say earlier, though I wasn't sure if I was at liberty to. The event lore I posted is only the setup to the event @real cedar ❤️ What happened prior to the event, I mean.

[orchid tangle]

theres another BM reference when the judge goes on the guy in the cell

in the book the glanton gang gets into a shootout in a tavern and a man tries to slash at the judge. He simply grabs his head against a wall and the guy just kinda dies

[real cedar]

Could be, but it's also nearly identical to something Kingpin does in Daredevil S4, same pacing to it even

[granite shard]

"I'm not hiding in madness, I'm reveling in it" lmfao

[orchid tangle]

could be either, or both

hunt judge gives me more kingpin vibes

[real cedar]

I think this is just The Redmartin, but interesting that The Fool has it back

[granite shard]

my beautiful wife silver spur moment

we're just gonna ignore this because he's fine, he's just taking a quick nap

[orchid tangle]

you will all know the pain I experienced with private eye in tide of corruption

[granite shard]

nah he's fine

he's taking a nap

[real cedar]

Haymaker fanning confirmed by the press release. One of Catalyst's effects on other traits is:
Fanning – Enables fanning with certain two-slot pistols.

[granite shard]

ooh press release?

eyes emoji

[real cedar]

https://www.crytek.com/news/date-judgement-of-the-fool

So not all precision pistols are getting fanning it seems

[granite shard]

thanks!

[mint wind]

Maybe the scope ones won't.

But I'd be curious to see it for the Nagant, Scotty and Uppercut ones.

[granite shard]

huh is there no kiteskin for it?

I guess it just says "some" so there might be a few more effects

[real cedar]

If not, then the kiteskin teaser was just a cutting room floor thing and that's why it only showed up on an instagram reel for a day

[granite shard]

feels weird to walk back on that so late in the game if you're making teasers and what not for it

[orchid tangle]

I think it just means dolch and that stuff

[real cedar]

Yeah, could be

[orchid tangle]

when I have to make a random teaser because I'm bored

[granite shard]

also looks like no new guns this event?

honestly good

[real cedar]

Some will take it as a minus but yeah if they need more time to make a proper new addition that isn't the Mosin match or chukonu then it's all good

[granite shard]

yeah like I'd rather they take the time to cook and have something that fills a niche that needed filled rather than just putting stuff out due to obligation

I feel like they learned that w the custom ammo after that went too crazy, and after the womp womp mosin match/etc we're getting there w guns lol

[strange bane]

Is the guy on the right end the sheriff without his hat? That back silhouette looks familiar

[tired spear]

several hunters have that same holster afaik

but the fact that he has a coat indicates that it might actually be the sheriff, yeah$

[real cedar]

It's just the same coat + holsters, a lot of the OG Legendary Hunters used stock assets from the tiered hunters

Looks like the Sheriff's coat is more brown though

[granite shard]

doesn't seem to have the same boots so yeah probs a tier 2 hunter

[tired spear]

oh yeah didn't see the boots

[strange bane]

Cool cool thanks hunters

Trailer looks absolutely wicked

Love the heavy stakes of it , the vibe feels like a return to form for hunt. It feels surreal

[granite shard]

I'm back to worrying abt there being an actual story for the event tho

I think that might be too pessimistic of me but Fear

[strange bane]

And I’m sure silver spur is napping. He’s getting too old for this shite. Hahs

Haha*

Prepare for the worst hope for the best

[granite shard]

he ran out of breath since he still actively has TB

gotta sit down and take a breather

[strange bane]

Yep. It’s drip or drown and he’s floating

[supple smelt]

This trailer was 99% story and 0% gameplay

I have a good feeling for lore heads

[supple smelt]

https://preview.redd.it/skfe103klb951.jpg?auto=webp&s=dd030e64cb76330355017246d041a71bdf63092e

[noble scarab]

I kinda hope we get lore separately to keep the masses happy. Either in a blog post or page somewhat near the event page

Reddit will lose its shit again if it’s in the battle pass

Then suddenly lore is bad again

[supple smelt]

shame I have no one to play with this event

seems like the first good one in a while

[real dove]

I think we will

Separately

We got the brute into

Info

[spiral mica]

Wait, actually?

[real cedar]

The way the Judge kills the whiteshirt in the cell is pretty close to the head squish that kingpin does, ye

[earnest jungle]

Quick someone get me some narcan cause I’m about to OD on the lore

[supple smelt]

kingpin x judge holden

[earnest jungle]

God there’s something almost perverse about having a Judge Holden Expy be motivated by the murder of his daughter if you know anything about Blood Meridian or the real Judge Holden

I do wonder then if Doc Redmartin was framed

Or if this is leaning into the interpretation that it was the kid all along who was responsible for all the missing childreb

[granite shard]

honestly I think that it's possible that the visual stuff is all there is and they've just gone and made their own characters from there

[earnest jungle]

That’s fair

[granite shard]

that's my hope at least. I don't really have any sort of personal connection to blood meridian so I find it a lot more appealing to have them just go their own route w the story

give the visuals for the people who wanted that nod, give an original story for everything else

[supple smelt]

oh yeah no, no one is implying they are the same characters

they just look similar

[granite shard]

yeah, I'm just saying for people looking for narrative parallels lol

I'm seeing people on reddit already getting kinda mad that he doesn't seem to be a one-to-one for holden

[supple smelt]

like Billy story looks like Daniel day Lewis from gangs of New York but has nothing in common

[granite shard]

(welcome to reddit lmao)

[supple smelt]

uhhh… that would also be a reason why many people would want him excluded

allowing people to play a nonce doesn’t bode well

[earnest jungle]

I wasn’t trying to say they are the same character

[granite shard]

yeah not saying you are (that's a redditor thing), more so that you're looking for narrative parallels that might not be there w the interpretation of the kid thing

[earnest jungle]

Visually the Pale Judge is based on/an allusion to Judge Holden from Blood Meridian who in turn was based on a historical figure.

And because I am immensely fun at parties I always have to point out when fictionalized versions of historical figures are departing from their historical basis

[spiral mica]

Oh you're right! I guess I was right about Judge feeling like Wilson Fisk lol

[tiny apex]

where is mammon's gultch state wise?

[granite shard]

colorado

[orchid tangle]

Holden would fucking hate this judge going off about the law protecting people lmao

[earnest jungle]

He would certainly like the version of him that exists now

The version that just murders people based on a presumption of guilt and tarrot cards

Wait

I just noticed something

His daughter in the flashback is blond; but the grown woman he finds wearing her necklace is a brunette.

[orchid tangle]

he would certainly liked what he turned into yes

I feel this judge would try to act above him though and feel that he's still above holdens viewpoints

[orchid tangle]

might just be the fuckass lighting from that sfcreenshot

[earnest jungle]

No the girl in the flashback is very clearly blond and woman he finds is very clearly a brunette.

It could be a natural change though: I was blond as a baby before becoming brunette as I grew

[orchid tangle]

I had the same

probably just thought nobody would notice care

like how the kid was reused as.. I think reapers??? son

lulu is younger grandma

[granite shard]

Yeah I assumed it was something to do w how a lot of blonde people turn brunette w age

Alternatively the cure all was brown hair dye

[earnest jungle]

The other thing I noticed is that the woman is lying in a puddle of blood but has no obvious injuries on her face or chest.

[orchid tangle]

I just assumed the cure all she had was some sort of poison and made her vomit out blood like some tarantino type weirdness

that's the reason I feel judge blames the fool. Or maybe it was just supposed to heal whatever wound she had and just didn't do anything

[earnest jungle]

All good explanations

But part of me wonders if the fool might actually be innocent

He’s certainly not innocent innocent but he might not be the one who killed the Judge’s Daughter

On a side note I like how The Pale Judge’s Pose includes former convicts much like Sheriff Hardin’s

[granite shard]

I don’t think he directly killed her, I think it’s an indirect kill w the cure all

I think he probably knew his cure all was bullshit but not that it would kill someone

[orchid tangle]

I feel like I'm not seeing this hunter right I swear the sovereign is in this group with judge and silver spur but I cannot imagine why he'd be there

[granite shard]

Who are you seeing that you think is the sovereign?

[orchid tangle]

it's this guy but I don't think it can be him because I think this dude has one of those bandolier shoulder things and the soverign doesn't have one and I think his sleeves are too long but something about the hair and color scheme threw me off the first few times I looked at it

[earnest jungle]

It's hard to tell

[granite shard]

I think that’s probably the t2 we saw from behind but he does look like he has the sovereign’s bun at this resolution

[earnest jungle]

He does kind of look like him but it's probably just a T2 hunter

[pearl abyss]

do you think Hunt have like pre hunt rituals, work outs or anything they do before entering the bayou or whatever?

[granite shard]

I’m sure some do

[pearl abyss]

like the priest guy would like pray with that nun girl while someone like holden and maybe the judge do some planning and prepping, redshirt fucking getting drunk before each hunt. He balling

[earnest jungle]

Probably not: nuns are Catholics and Ishim Gird is most likely a Protestant.

[spiral mica]

True, but just because Ishim Gird is a Protestant and Mary Burgess is a Catholic doesn't mean they couldn't pray together.

It's sort of like how even though Brewer and Hardin have a very different idea of justice they can still work together towards a common goal.

Or the more recent Bruja and welders situation where even though they have different methods they're still perfectly capable of working together.

[spiral mica]

I will say it's funny you mention a hunter getting drunk before hunting though because I recall during the desolation's wake story the union suit stumbling out of the woods while Hardin and Felis were trying to negotiate. He ended up shooting possibly by accident which prompted both sides to begin firing at each other. Needless to say, and to also quote engineer from tf2 being drunk on the battlefield ain't no way to be.

[tired spear]

and? i was almost platinum blonde when i was a kid, now my hair is pretty dark brown

[visual finch]

Same

[tired spear]

Omg amon with blonde hair

Now that is something I struggle to imagine

[real cedar]

Pretty alright

[granite shard]

a little bummed that it's the reaper but a woman

but like. at least we finally got a DLC that doesn't include a masc person for the first time in two years lol

[real cedar]

The face is a little Call of Duty Ghosts, minus the line going up the forehead

[mossy sorrel]

Oooo fuck, nah I LIKE that

Gives me For Honour Peacekeeper vibes too

https://tenor.com/view/for-honor-peacekeeper-idle-looking-gif-13711707883870257615

[real cedar]

Another interesting tidbit: The first DLC agnostic skin. They're tripling down on the black gothic skin style. Ghostface, Night Tyrant uppercuts, Sparks in the next event, and this.

[mossy sorrel]

She's also dual wielding sparks pistols which is incredibly based

[granite shard]

I wonder if the night tyrant will be a dlc/bb hunter in the future

I hope they chill on the night tryant skins at some point tho. I don't mind the aesthetic but we've been getting a lot of them haha

(saying that I adore the dusters, I just hope this aesthetic doesn't get overplayed)

[noble scarab]

She’s a bit edgy

Glad to have another sparks silencer pistol tho

[real cedar]

I haven't read the story yet but I think it explains Night Tyrant as being related to her. Here's the blurbs:

And the story proper

[granite shard]

haha yeah was abt to go post the story, it doesn't really give too much more abt her as a person, just more of as a ghost story

I feel like it's a matter of time until we see the night tyrant as a hunter based on this tho

[real cedar]

Maybe in 3 years when they want to connect an old hunter to something more

[granite shard]

lmfao

[real cedar]

Personally I hope the Night Tyrant remains a myth. That it's connected to both her and Ghostface and both talk of murderous curses is kinda compelling.

[mint wind]

also NT is kinda bound to the Circus too...

[real cedar]

How so?

[mint wind]

In frenchie, but you'll notice the Circus mentionned, and in the middle the Heliostone.

[real cedar]

Isn't that from Crossroads Walker's DLC blurb? I see Scruggs

[mint wind]

Took it from Dead Man's Cut page.

The Night Tyrant is called Jeremiah Scruggs.

[real cedar]

I thought his name was Crossroads Walker. Night Tyrant was first mentioned in Garden of the Witch, and only connects backwards to Ghostface by the detailing on the stock of the uppercut precision and the frontier 73 silencer

[mint wind]

Wha

Have I been mistaking since the beginning.

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19495369

[real cedar]

I've been there the skins are in a similar black gothic style but the designs don't match so its a standalone thing.

[mint wind]

So who tf is the Night Tyrant now.

am lost

[granite shard]

guy who owned guns and had a connection to the angel of death lol

[real cedar]

He's a mystery character for now, either a myth or something else as of yet described

[mint wind]

Ok ok

[real cedar]

Anyway it seems like the DLC is gonna come out either the 17th or 18th. They're semi-regular in putting out the wishlist exactly a week before it drops, and DLCs always come out on Tuesday-Thursday. They've done day-before-event DLCs before though so I won't discount that possibility.

[real cedar]

That's a good gag. DeSalle coming back so make a bundle with Second Chance

[spiral mica]

Lol I thought she looked like the Black prior hero skin with the crown of thorns.

I'm a little disappointed she wasn't a bride, but I still think the female reaper vibes she's got going is cool.

[orchid tangle]

oooo

I was about to skip on the dlc cuz reaper again but black drilling skin

[real cedar]

The melted wax skull on top of black bandages is a pretty cool design, albeit kinda edgy for Hunt

[granite shard]

Wait I just realized there’s not a sparks sniper in her dlc pack

So I guess that’s gonna be a BP gun?

Man they’re really going hard on this theme

[kindred solstice]

Looks like her skins are the same ones from Ghost Face, no?

[granite shard]

Yeah

[real cedar]

Yup, BP agnostic skin pack, Sniper and either regular or silencer were shown in the background of the trailer

[real cedar]

Ye, same tyrant on the throne inlaid into the stock

[kindred solstice]

Really going hard on the agnostic skins now.. kinda crazy to have 2 full DLC's of the same one

[real cedar]

It must've proved really popular. It is a very nice design after all, I don't like the Ghostface DLC but the weapons alone nearly save it

[granite shard]

Honestly the weapons tempted me to that DLC but I wanted to vote w my wallet on how I felt abt collabs

So it is nice to have the opportunity to get some of the theme

I just hope they don’t overplay it

[kindred solstice]

Yeah, I got mine from a Twitch giveaway lmao. They look good, but there's just so many of them now. I get the agnostic skins thing, but it's kind of a shame that we only had 2 new skin styles for the entire event last time

[granite shard]

Yeahhhh I hope this is something they maybe figure out a better balance for in the future

We are getting more skins than ever but I think I preferred when they had fewer skins that were more unique

[kindred solstice]

Yeah, I'd have to agree... I like the idea, but it feels like too much to me

Especially for the BP

Feel like the agnostic ones should be reserved for BB skins or something

[granite shard]

I guess it's kinda how battle passes work honestly

they all require padding

[kindred solstice]

Yeah, I guess

[granite shard]

it used to be ammo types and lore chapters working as that padding but now they've walked back on adding a bunch of custom ammo (and it seems like we might not even be getting guns this time) so they gotta replace it w something else

[kindred solstice]

True enough

[real cedar]

It's good for the guns that are less popular, they finally get a skin when otherwise they'd keep getting looked over cause of pickrate

[granite shard]

yeah, I think I'd mind less if they were newer themes and maybe didn't take up multiple BP entires

but again that defeats the purpose of battle pass padding haha

I think the agnostic skins are at least better than things like namecards and whatnot

[kindred solstice]

Maybe we'll get three new skin types this time. Then it would feel better

Yeah for sure

[granite shard]

I also wish they'd all come with different lore blurbs but alas

I'm curious to see just how long the BP is for this event since it's going on for so long

[kindred solstice]

Yeah, same. My guess is that it'll still likely be about the same. Hopefully not with slower progression, but we'll see

[granite shard]

yeah we'll see

[kindred solstice]

People already complain about how hard they are to complete, so maybe they're just giving it more time

[granite shard]

hopefully the event running for so long also gives the devs a chance to take their time cooking whatever comes next so they don't have to do any crazy crunch or anything

[kindred solstice]

Hopefully 🙏

[smoky anchor]

same, i was expecting a ghostly bride

[gilded umbra]

This next event will be more like a season.

[granite shard]

what made you guys think bride btw?

[earnest jungle]

Mostly wishful thinking from our good friend Alpacalix

There was little to suggest she would have a bridge theme other than her gender and her connection to Blanchet Graves a Gothic Cathedral.

Which to be fair "Wight in a Wedding Dress" is a well tread ghostly archetype

[granite shard]

yeah I guess mostly since it's a mausoleum/graveyard sort of area I would have thought more widow than anything if it was gonna be related to marriage stuff

I wish she had ghostly white hair tho that was my big hope haha

[earnest jungle]

same

[noble scarab]

Does the big white skull wax/paint count

[earnest jungle]

I would but I'm a big fan of the aesthetic of masked women so I'm kinda biased

https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864

[spiral mica]

I figured bride mostly because it's been mentioned in the past, and Alpacalix suggested the idea.

[noble scarab]

I guess depending on the lighting she might be hard to see too

[granite shard]

I think the white mask will make her pretty obvious

[noble scarab]

Previous headsman like

[granite shard]

Tho ig there’s the back of her head

[noble scarab]

The shot on the steam page might just be bad lighting or a weird render but it makes the face look duller

The one in the bio

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/370142302196334593/1382410743479144498/image.png?ex=684b0dd5&is=6849bc55&hm=6d26e83204b8d018259c77c0b8b0fdf750e0b0761fd2ed631aa7edbdc04515c2&

[real cedar]

Lobby lighting

[noble scarab]

That’d do it

[real cedar]

The pale hood + mantle seems like it'll help with avoiding blending in, and it's tighter against the head than other hoods so it should also mitigate breaking up the silhouette.
Overall it's a good skin I think, we'll see if that changes in practice though

[spiral mica]

In the promotional art for her it almost looks like there is a hint of really dark blue in her outfit.

Her eyes also look like they're glowing blue

[real cedar]

They've got that nocturnal animal sheen to them, pretty spooky

[spiral mica]

It looks like that eso trailer from 2014

Are there any hunters in the game currently that have any glowing or luminescent features on them? I'd assume probably not because stuff like that could give away your position in an actual match.

I know some weapons glow in the dark like the Zorngeist.

[real cedar]

Not that I can think of

[minor sigil]

do any of the battlepass guys have any current relevance? at least to where the current story takes place

[zenith perch]

That new dlc is made for me

[orchid tangle]

theres not much current story going we're hoping this starts it back up

What we know is the judge is from mammons gulch but is down in the bayou hunting the fool

all the teasers hint show of desalle but the fool is supposed to be hiding out in alice farms (even though he has his own hideout poi soooo)

[minor sigil]

Also, is he supposed to be legally distinct judge Holden?

[orchid tangle]

he is definitely a reference to judge holden but that's about it

in the trailer he kills someone by holding their head to a wall which is also something holden does in the book

but that's about it

holden is a scalp hunter who pretends to talk about law and stuff but he's no real lawful judge

[real cedar]

Nope, most event hunters participate in self-contained stories and then get forgotten in the larger storyline. The Demented event hunters like Butcher's Cleaver and Beekeeper also appeared in a second event story but aren't seen elsewhere yet.
The old bloodbond hunters like Sheriff Hardin, Felis, Marshall Brewer, and DLC hunters like The Researcher, Sofia, etc. are the ones seen participating in the larger story, probably cause that way people actually see who the story is about.

[gilded umbra]

Butcher’s Cleaver and The Beekeeper are still alive or is that currently unknown?

[cloud ravine]

Butcher cleaver more than likely dead beekeeper is alive I think

Or someone might be copying the the butcher cleaver

[earnest jungle]

It's complicated

The butcher's cleaver was subjected to execution by Scaphism in the autumn of 1895 but is then seen alive again in Mammon's Gulch in 1896.

[granite shard]

we might see an explanation at some point now that we're seemingly getting lore again

[earnest jungle]

But we also might already have all the explanation we need.

The tide of Desolation was created by the Death Pact and Infeneral Pacts unintentionally tearing open a rift between the Lands of the Living and the Dead.

It’s possible then that while the door was still open the Butcher’s cleaver managed to escape.

Alternatively he might simply have survived his execution

Scaphism is a slow and prolonged form of execution.

If the Conspirator could survive being burned at the stake it’s not implausible The Butcher’s Cleaver survived his own death.

[gilded umbra]

An excellent explanation, thank you.

[real cedar]

That new giveaway is making me go 🤔
Is Sofia considered a witch hunter or is that a typo?

[real dove]

OH NO

REEEEEE

[granite shard]

LMAO

Gg

[real dove]

theyll never let me close to the giveaway buttom

n

fmkl

[real cedar]

[granite shard]

I sure wonder who put together the giveaway this time

[real dove]

Well uh... it's a lore test, yeah

congrats you passed

gold star

[spiral mica]

She did use silver blood bullets to destroy a supernatural artifact so it's entirely possible lol

[orchid tangle]

defo just a typo even if theres a hint she deals in with hunting they wouldn't say "the witch hunter herself"

[real dove]

its a typo

as the one who made it

[earnest jungle]

Shaking my head

[grave dagger]

I need a vampire hunter...

[spiral mica]

I think a vampire-themed hunter would be cool, but I'm starting to second guess my desire for an entire event themed around the vampire mythos.

Mostly based on what Rai said about Hunt doing good without the addition of the more iconic myths and cryptids.

Hunt has it's own identity and it works without needing Wendigo, Lycanthropy, or vampirism.

[grave dagger]

I would agree, but it's also fun to suggest the black goo that seeps from the ground and leeched its way into the water could become the catalyst for something like those creatures.

Such as the grunts, they're zombies effectively.

Albeit the zombies are essentially kept alive by bugs, how I understand it.

[noble scarab]

Old hunters more or less confirmed to not be in the update

[orchid tangle]

I really don't get this type of thought process crytek has of just deciding not to add things/hesistant about adding things that are a direct benefit tot he game

they are literally in the game perfectly fine for people who kept theirs from before 1896

and funnily enough hunters that we have in the game purposefully are broken all the damn time

[mint wind]

A bit unsure about this statement. It sounds a bit like when mods told us the 18th wasn’t the right date for the event.

[orchid tangle]

wasn't it more like it wasn't locked in

[spiral mica]

What I gather from this is they mistakeably used older models for the promotional material which has given people the wrong impression that we're actually getting some of these older hunter models in the game as part of this upcoming update.

They also say that they don't know if any other hunter will or won't be returning for the update, and that some of the models used in the promo material aren't currently in the game, but I also see that as possibly meaning that although they aren't returning this update or even next update they could potentially return in future updates.

But regardless of this information I'm still under the impression that this upcoming update and event will be a good one.

[mint wind]

There has been too many old hunters showcased for not having any back, considering how the furst batch was positively received.

[orchid tangle]

I just want this guy to be a real hunter

just a dude in a shirt, hat, and round glasses

[smoky anchor]

isn’t he sorta already in the game

[orchid tangle]

other than white dude with a beard

no

[spiral mica]

Oh I think we'll definitely get some of them back for sure, but not all of them. Like Nixatek said some stuff used older models that aren't currently in the game and it doesn't mean they're returning in the next update.

[noble scarab]

I too hope the message is just a misunderstanding from one party or another

[brazen root]

yea, they would be a very welcome addition to the hunter progression system, but i suppose adding a progression requires a bit of work still, since they want all three tiers to look like the same person

and a lot of the old ones could and should be used as additional free hunter models imo, i really dislike that we only have like 4 lol

[orchid tangle]

honestly if that's the reason they need to chill out
People want these hunters, most huners look samey anyway, all of them use the same two voices, some legendary huners use free hunter bases

I'm almost tempted to believe in the conspiracy they just removed them so people would be more willing to buy legendary huners but ehh

[brazen root]

hah

[manic lichen]

WE GOT LORE BACK BABEY!

[real cedar]

It only took almost a year 😩

But this means that the Blackwell Trio will have lore now

[granite shard]

Thank Christ

[real cedar]

Also the agnostic skin pack is working as intended again.
We get a skin for a gun that hasn't had a new one since June 2020

[noble scarab]

The talon had 2? Skins before, right. Night terror and the skin contest one

[granite shard]

lore for the new hunters

[noble scarab]

So he is the jonkler

Glad we can duo up as the jonkler and Harley Quinn

Now we just need Batman

[granite shard]

I wish that they had it starting in desalle and ending in mammon's gulch instead of the other way around

since the tie to the spirited puts this in desalle

[manic lichen]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGGydriSQtP/?hl=en
I am not sorry

danhentschel

🚨ACTIVATING CHUCKLER MODE🚨

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[real cedar]

I had a dream last night that Crytek announce a second new AI for this update, baby gators that waddle along shorelines and bite your ankles or something.

[granite shard]

I want that now

[real cedar]

I'm seeing 4 skin types this time around. The Judge's Auto-4 / Officer style, The Fool's Redmartin style on the other Ranger 73 skins, a skin type for the LeMat, Terminus, and whatever else, and the Night Tyrant's Sparks set.

The officer hasn't had a skin since 2022, and the officer carbine deadeye since 2021. Good additions 👍

On the top of the Auto-5 "Pallida mors aequo pulsat pede pauperum tabernas regumque turres" - "Pale Death, with impartial foot, knocks at the cottages of the poor and the palaces of kings", a quote from Horace.

[brazen root]

New sparks pistol dlc skin also has a silenced variant

Its great

[real cedar]

Very cool to see that it can be used in DLCs along with Events.
I wonder if it's gonna affect the price of the DLC at all 🤔

Also, Tonya Wegman's lore changed. Previously her bio was:
Daddy left Tonya Wegman behind for her own good when he went a-Hunting. But Daddy was old, and he vanished into the swamps. After too many unanswered letters, she went looking for him and quickly proved herself a better Hunter than he ever was.

[granite shard]

interesting-- that goes along w the brute's lore

I wonder if they're gonna change the lore for that one hunter who's referred to as the angel of death now that we have a legendary being called that

[real cedar]

Perhaps, but calling her that is still appropriate since it's a specific type of serial killer

[granite shard]

yeah, just a little odd to have two hunters with the same nickname lol

[real cedar]

Either way it means I oughta go over all the Tier1-3 hunters and check if there are more changes

[granite shard]

godspeed 🫡

[real cedar]

New Throwing Spear

[faint nimbus]

It seems the main skin theme this season is based on silver spur’s weapons

With him being in the cinematic trailer I wonder what his relation to the judge is

[noble scarab]

Bounty hunter

At least in the trailers

[mint wind]

No lore in between tho.

[granite shard]

Makes sense to me that the judge could have hired him to track down redmartin

Wow if there’s lore for the event with voice acting we could get silver spur chapters

[noble scarab]

Wonder if all the new silver spur themed guns get the gun-skull-nut sack thing glued to it

[granite shard]

Probs just judge and fool but imagine

[noble scarab]

I like his mako skin minus that thing on the front of the lever guard

[real cedar]

Looks like it's reminiscent but slightly different, the ivory and skull being the main similarities. Kinda like how Crossroads Walker's black gothic style is close to the Night Tyrant skin set but still its own thing.

[spiral mica]

I'm hoping this time around if there are any event point codes they'll stay valid until after the event had concluded 🙏

[noble scarab]

With how long this event is, we shouldn’t need codes to get it done in time

I don’t think they’ve released the point breakdown yet tho

[real cedar]

Hopefully, unless they've massively nerfed weekly challenge points on top of it going down to four challenges per week

[spiral mica]

True, I don't think it'll be necessary, but im just saying if it is it'd be a really nice feature to have.

[noble scarab]

We get 10 points max per match

I’m glad we do have people like rachta that monitor all of the hunt social medias that can help get word out for those codes

God forbid crytek have good social media management

[real cedar]

If they haven't changed anything, it should be 18,000 points up for grabs from Dark Tribute (90 x 200), and then 4250-4750 points per week if they haven't touched challenge points beyond losing one challenge (meaning 51000 - 57000 points total over 12 weeks). That seems to go against their past style of having weeklies not cover the whole BP, but then they've never done a 3 month event before and the video says "more time to finish" so who knows.

[strange bane]

The hype is real

[spiral mica]

Is there a reason they decided to remove a challenge?

[real cedar]

None stated. There's going to be more info with other changes in 2.4 but we'll see whether it actually explains anything

[orchid tangle]

3 months for 38 tiers
ighttt

[earnest jungle]

They could always just change it to Angel of Mercy which means the same thibg.

[real cedar]

Ah, the Black Votive skin in the new DLC isn't agnostic after all, it was a mistake in their marketing that's since been fixed

They fixed it so hastily there's a little save icon up in the left corner

Oh and an FPS counter in the right

[spiral mica]

It just occurred to me that all the agnostic skins for this event will be Redmartin and Silver spur themed which is really nice because those are clean designs.

[real cedar]

Even when little mistakes happen like that it seems fine cause they're good at resolving it swiftly

[noble scarab]

I think we get more night tyrant too

[spiral mica]

That new spear skin looks like it'll take after the Silver spur side of things.

[real cedar]

The tools and consumables are doing their own thing I think, the knuckle knife and regen shot don't look too similar to any of the skin sets

[orchid tangle]

I worked too hard for my fifty laurels to quit it now 💔

[spiral mica]

Either way it'll be nice to get my hands on a spear skin finally. I really like that red one that was originally seen in Bloody red's promo material, but it's never 40% off or more in the store so I don't buy it.

[noble scarab]

What was the last tomahawk skin

[real cedar]

Tide of Corruption, the Murmurblade

[noble scarab]

Ah yes the cleaver that does axe things

Before that’d it’d have been the reaper’s axes or calling bird

[real cedar]

I like that idea, I hope they do it more with different enough models. Like Corvus and Arlington Grave

or Last Word being a "knife"

[noble scarab]

Unless they’ve fixed it a lot of those replacement skins use the shadow model for the original

It’s funny to see when you use the saber

[real cedar]

🤔 I wonder if the Night Tyrant Sparks Pistol is in the BP then if it's not in the DLC? We know for a fact the model exists now so surely it's gotta pop up somewhere

There's probably a complaint to be made if it really is the case, you're getting 4/5 of a skin set from an event but then the 5th is kept separate in a DLC for some unknown reason.

[orchid tangle]

even if they fixed it I'm gonna wait for steam discussion page or reddit posts saying they're taking shit from us

[real cedar]

I'm just hoping it'll all be consistent, if it is 4 Sparks skins under 1 name and then the 5th under a different name with different lore, it's just strange

Having the cutoff point be that the event skin set is all big rifles and the sparks pistol disappears to pop up somewhere else would be closer to consistent

I figured it out

You can't have the Sparks Pistol Silencer in the same skin set cause Crypt Seal: Pistol Silencer is a stupid name

and you can't shorten it to Silencer like some other variants can cause there's already a Crypt Seal: Silencer

[lavish citrus]

Does anyone know when the hunter lore is going back on the website?

[real dove]

Nop

[supple smelt]

@orchid tangle

Think you got what you wanted in the end

This is the guy’s sleeves from that one screenshot

[orchid tangle]

it's good but another worse mask for me
I think masks were a last minute change made by big hunt to fuck with me

[real cedar]

Huh, he looks a lot less mutilated than I expected. They just cut off his lips and left it there, pretty considerate for a lynch mob

Why does he even need the cheek spreaders 🤔

[orchid tangle]

honestly it looks like he still kinda has lips it's just super stretched

[granite shard]

Doctor dbd vibe

[real cedar]

It'd make sense if his skin got super loosened up and he put those in to keep smiling but idk how exactly an angry mob manages to accomplish that

[orchid tangle]

this is a clear teaser we're getting rotjaw lightning bombs

[orchid tangle]

if I got to choose bayou punishments I'd just leave everyone tied up defenseless in areas demented pact people or the like are often spotted

[zenith perch]

im confused, they look the same?

[real cedar]

Ye, the DLC image previously showed one sparks pistol silencer next to a regular sparks pistol but they updated it as it was giving the wrong idea that a sparks pistol was available in the product.
So now we get to wonder where the pistol went.

[zenith perch]

ooh

[real cedar]

🤔 I probably shouldn't be sharing images they chose to delete. Half the time I get bonked for it

[zenith perch]

maybe they designed both before deciding which one to use cause the regular sparks pistol was some skins already

[real cedar]

They've designed the whole set of Night Tyrant Sparks skins, at least 3 more are in the upcoming BP, regular sniper and silencer

So I guess the Sparks Pistol was part of designing the full set but may not have made it into the BP, or it has and we just haven't seen it yet

[zenith perch]

ah

im also happy the silver spur is getting more weapons

cause I like to run all the gear a hunter has

and running two long ammo weapons can be eh for me at times

[real cedar]

They're very close to silver spur style with the ivory and skull but I think they belong to the Pale Judge

[zenith perch]

potato tomato

[real cedar]

the designs aren't identical as they usually are with copying styles, even the skull is off

but they match aesthetically which is the big part

[zenith perch]

close enough for me

marlin and nagant will go hard for me

even the browning and nagant

im a shitlord cause I use flechette with the auto 5

[real cedar]

Uppercut P fanning + Auto 4 flechette is gonna be something, gotta bring extra ammo boxes for sure

[zenith perch]

I forgot about the new fanning

[mint wind]

The issue I'm seeing rising with the agnostic skins is that we're having overall way less visual variety in events...

[orchid tangle]

I'm fine with agnostic skins but the two designs we're getting this event we already have. Rai has pointed out the silver spur one is a bit different but it's def still in the same thought process, brighter colors with skulls
but still it's kinda annoying to see the redmartin gun get a bunch of new additions since it's pretty old, even if it makes sense thematically... Though I do think it's odd he gives it to spirited just to take it right back most likely after killing him judging by that one teaser

[mint wind]

What I mean is, if you check ToS, the hammer, drilling, Narmy and Haymaker skins were all different ; in ToC, the Uppercuts, Bornheim and crossbow were different ; in ToD, the Dolchs, drillings and axe were different ; and in DW, the 2 Statesman makos were very different.
But now, even if some people like it, I feel like we're losing a lot of visual variety for the weapons, it's just 1 theme for a handful of guns, and they'll all be the same. It was kind of like that already for SE with the Trophy taker's skins, it was kind of at its worse in GotW.

[orchid tangle]

that is true you'll be out of luck if you don't like the theme

that's what I liked about ToD, they were going into both themes of the "civilized" shootist theme and the other side played into more primal voodoo type stuff, while still (decently) keeping all the skins unique

luckily this events themes appeal to my interests so obviously it's all okay

[mint wind]

I might also take it, because I'm quite sure I'll finish it... but truth be told, I was never a fan of the agnostic concept, and I much preffered skins unique for specific weapons.

[orchid tangle]

I like agnostic just wish they shared the same tier or we got more different skins to make up for it

which I feel like shouldn't be too much work because its the same design on the same gun with just some parts put on or taken off but oh well

[tiny apex]

Isn't this like literally hawkshaw Jack?

[orchid tangle]

every single thing other than being men is in a different style

[dreamy glen]

I've read through the entire primary compendium in two days and now dream of Hunt: Showdown. Assistance requested /lh

[granite shard]

Unfortunately it’s terminal

Welcome to the brainworms 🫡

[neat juniper]

I remember how I had a dream about fist fighting meatheads few years ago
They cornered me 😔

I also remember how this December my brain used hunt showdown as a basis world for a dream about tackling my feeling of being stuck in life

This is a good video game

[real cedar]

[neat juniper]

Rai the orange

[granite shard]

the two most regular oranges in lore were turned red so it's apparently necessary for the balance of things to promote another to orange

[real cedar]

We're slowly conquering lore discussion

[granite shard]

eventually the lore channel will only have colorful names

[neat juniper]

Which is the next unfortunate soul to be tainted

[neat juniper]

Well I mean, if they keep removing lore from ingame, then ye, only dedicated individuals will pool here

[granite shard]

[upbeat kiln]

it even has a little glowy outline - that looks so cool! 😄

[noble scarab]

I mean there’s only so many of us here

[empty basin]

I come here more than anywhere else to find out what's going on with Hunt, haven't been playing much but still like to stop in here for the scoop

[spiral mica]

Congrats on the orange lol

[mint wind]

So true :)

[real dove]

Ehehehehe

We have absorbed another

[mint wind]

With a tiny straw.

[real cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016

[tiny apex]

what does orange mean in lore?

[mint wind]

Scurvy has yet to come to Hunt.

[spiral mica]

Actually that brings up a good question. We know the inoculation that hunters have protects them from the incursion zones, but do we know if it can protect against other forms of disease, bacteria, and viruses? Silver Spur comes to mind as he has tuberculosis which would seemingly kill him eventually, but perhaps the inoculation has slowed or even halted it?

[tiny apex]

pretty sure I've shot that guy before that probably killed him faster than the tuberculosis

[upbeat kiln]

is this the Delphine?

[real dove]

My understanding is that it's not

Since she was used to make the totems and shit

[upbeat kiln]

ah I see

[real dove]

:/ would be cool tho

I remember using a scope to look for a name

[mint wind]

Might just be one more destroyed steamboat.

[brazen root]

i think that's the borealis

[spiral mica]

That is diabolical, but you're absolutely right.

[signal lotus]

Are Meridian Turncoat and Steel Eyed the same person?

[real cedar]

Nope, Turncoat is Wim Jansen and Steel Eyed is Red Descot.

[signal lotus]

They have the same hair and glasses

[tiny apex]

I remember someone saying hunters use different peoples aliases all the time. It’s entirely possible it IS the same human pretending to be two different people

[spiral mica]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks they look same-ish.

I always thought they'd make a great duo.

[orchid tangle]

steel eyed loves his wild west tricks he'd never stoop to a semi automatic pistol

[strange bane]

“No smoking in the commode” lol

[signal lotus]

Is the hornback related to the reptillian?

[signal lotus]

literally same hair, same glasses lol

[granite shard]

They work together, nothing indicates them being related tho

[signal lotus]

I didn't mean like family just

like that yeah, work together

nvm not exactly the same

[gilded umbra]

https://youtu.be/N4lBuEcpgQo?si=o1s65QoYS-6e6wZe

[real cedar]

Ooh, these events are called the Tarot Trilogy

[brazen root]

tarot trilogy hah

[real cedar]

So there's another Tarot event coming next... PLEASE LET IT BE LYNCH

[supple smelt]

whos lynch

[real cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/malcom-in-the-middle-gif-812079018943521515

[supple smelt]

oh is he one of the aha founders

[real cedar]

Lynch is a white-haired witch that is one of the main antagonists of the lore. She killed the Witch Hunter's sister and wears her skin, and has attained enough power that she's halfway to being a cursed monster, she can only exist in the land of the dead or in corrupted lands now. Before she was revealed to be a Witch, she was one of the original Hunters working with the AHA, and she performed human sacrifices to summon demons/eldritch entities, capture and kill them, and use their essence to create the inoculation that all Hunters use.

[supple smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/telepurte-pingu-noot-noot-gif-25837050

[spiral mica]

They're not related, but during previous events they were part of the same group. Her bio reveals that she's a sort of seamstress by trade turning alligator pelts into clothing.

[signal lotus]

[spiral mica]

Its a double-edged sword on one hand she dresses like a alligator, but on the other hand she endorses poaching.

[real cedar]

🤔 The event totems are specifically called Orwellian effigies again, back from Traitor's Moon. Is it a lazy rehash, or is there some deeper meaning?

[noble scarab]

They haven’t mentioned chary or the moon

Yet

Dorothy Alice

[granite shard]

ah. alice in wonderland

that's... sure

[real cedar]

Here, this is better

[granite shard]

YELLS

I GOTTA DRAW THIS

the devs are trying to get me to shut the fuck up abt varre elden ring by tempting me with lesbians

[real dove]

SCHUBERT

[mint wind]

Also Alice Madness Returns.

[granite shard]

Looks like another case of “do not take trailers as 100% lore accurate” lol

Oh nice more Sofia content

Truly the pride month battle pass

KEVIN REFERENCE

Okay Orwellian might be intentional then if they’re bringing Kevin up (even if just in a charm)

OH ANOTHER MOON TRILOGY THING — the viper & Mary ochenkov

Charms don’t necessarily mean anything but…

[spiral mica]

I recall poking fun at the idea of Alice after the Bloody Red released. I guess my idea came to fruition.

Can't really say I'm surprised though. I honestly felt like it was only a matter of time for that one.

[spiral mica]

Weird, so does this mean Redmartin isn't indirectly responsible for killing Judge's daughter?

[real cedar]

Second form of Dorothy Alice. First one is called Dream

[spiral mica]

I didn't realize it was the girl from the trailer. Her hair is blonde in dream, but black in nightmare.

[real cedar]

Its not, the dress is different

[spiral mica]

Different outfit maybe? Also I can't tell, but does she have stich marks on her neck since her head was cut off?

Ah wait nevermind. It can't be the same person at all because the names are different. Lola is apparently the name of Judge's daughter.

[real cedar]

And Dorothy's backstory is related to Alice Farm, not Mammon's Gulch

[spiral mica]

Yeah, I see it all now lol

[real cedar]

More references to Moon trilogy hunters. It feels like a hint but at the same time it's so vague that it could easily be meaningless if not followed up on.

[granite shard]

The women’s day post did mention wanting to do more w the prescient

So either that was teasing this or they have greater plans

[earnest jungle]

she also may or may not be Marshal Brewers ex-girlfriend

[real cedar]

More Prescient, more underground rumbling. Something is definitely coming.

[earnest jungle]

Could mean that someone desecrated his daughter’s corpse after her death

Where are y’all getting these screenshots?

[real cedar]

I think that's Hayden being Hayden and using Brewer's image for the otherwise nondescript Marshals. Lynch's rituals involve human sacrifice so it can't be Brewer. The story even describes the sacrifice being eaten by the entity.

[earnest jungle]

LET ME HAVE THIS MAN!

[real cedar]

[earnest jungle]

So much has been taken from me

From this game

Let me have homoerotic knife play between Marshal Brewer and Lynch

[spiral mica]

It's funny you mention that because I was actually thinking that to be a possibility myself. Now I'm trying to figure out why a group of bandits would want to desecrate a corpse?
The simple use of the word bandit leads me to believe that it was a random act rather than a planned one. It doesn't mention any person or group specifically which could imply they're not important in the grand scheme of things.

[real cedar]

Oh that's a first. Agnostic Skins aren't guaranteed to share the same lore.

[spiral mica]

All the callbacks to the moon trilogy are pretty cool

[real cedar]

The Statesman and the Pale Judge run in the same circles.
Also, the Statesman is LOADED. I wonder if it was one of James Buchanan's elephants, or some other gift?

[earnest jungle]

Eugh the Demented truly have earned their name

Also we got a nod to the Headsman and the Welders

I’m not sure if this makes the timeline clearer or muddier?

[spiral mica]

Oh good. I had my speculations that Statesman and Judge knew each other in some regard, but I'm glad there's an item that confirms it.

[earnest jungle]

Cause like if the Judge has already passed judgment on the fool why is he still chasing him?

I honestly feel like the two skins should have had their stories reversed

[real cedar]

The townsfolk are the ones that mutilated The Fool while he was a fugitive from justice. Once the Judge found him, he pulled The Fool tarot card which prevented the desired execution. So The Fool was given that mask and branded an outlaw instead.

[spiral mica]

The fact that it's referred to as "Tetanus" is fitting because most of the weapons belonging to Demented hunters are coated in rust. The most notable one being the Murmurblade which was rusted by the blood of Butcher's Cleaver.

[orchid tangle]

is that an on hunter derringer?????

instant main

[spiral mica]

So we're getting 5 new hunters this event not including the Ghost of Blanchett Graves dlc is that correct?

[granite shard]

Yup

[earnest jungle]

Judge (1) Alice (2) Fool (2) Ghost (1): we're getting six new hunters and half of them are girls 😄

[spiral mica]

I'm always happy to have more additions to the game, but no hunter particularly strikes my fancy this event. I think the Ghost lady is cool, but the last thing I need is another dlc lol

[supple smelt]

No new tiered hunters?

I thought they’d add some considering the screenshots

[granite shard]

Damn was beaten to the explanation lmao

[orchid tangle]

and I doubt they'd make up whole new ones

[supple smelt]

damn… some hunters that I wanted back in those screens

I feel like for some reason the final judge skin looks a bit goofier than how I imagined him looking purely from this

[orchid tangle]

I miss these guys sm

[supple smelt]

Bayou Luigi 💔

[spiral mica]

That guy in the top right was in the event trailer, but as I was watching the trailer I came to the realization that he was probably one of those skins that Nixatek was referring to.

[orchid tangle]

yep

[spiral mica]

One thing I'd still like to know is when they said some models aren't currently in the game and not coming back next update is that referring to the upcoming 2.4 update or future updates after that?

[orchid tangle]

anythings possible but we had to fight for any lore inclusion anywhere

so

I think they're on the path of just kinda removing shit for no reason

[brazen root]

I believe they said during the Q&A today that they're constantly in the process of adding more of the old hunter appearances back

I think it was in the context of a question about getting more progression hunters

[spiral mica]

I know the most recent set of tier hunters have lore attributed to them, but I think this is less about including lore and more about including hunter skins that were otherwise previously in the game before the 1896 update. Plus, it's not like they're still actively removing stuff like this from the game anymore they just have yet to reintroduce these features back into the game. The addition of lore to new tier hunter skins would certainly be a nice addition, but what I really want at the end of the day is all these different hunter appearances back in the game again.

[orchid tangle]

I'd rather just get real lore honestly instead of "piece of shit wants to justify being a piece of shit by going to the bayou"

I'd be a bit more understanding if the skins were broken

but they're there

they work

they work ebtter than some intended in the game hunters

[spiral mica]

Sure, and like I said the lore is nice, but I'd be more privy to the idea of getting the actual hunter skins first, and then just having them add lore to their bios later on if that's what it'll take to get these hunter skins back into the game quicker.

[orchid tangle]

I agree

[spiral mica]

Except the thing is they're not there. Nixatek did say some of the newly featured stuff isn't actually in the game currently nor is it coming in the next update. I'm also less inclined to judge them on taking so long with reintroducing all these missing skins from the game because firstly I'm not a game developer so I couldn't possibly know how long stuff like this could take or what exactly is happening behind the scenes, and secondly they're still focusing on fixing notable bugs, disconnecting during a match, and adding quality of life changes to stuff like the menus and UI which are all things that definitely should be at the forefront of their attention.

[orchid tangle]

there is a lot of hunters that are gone that people still have from not prestiging, most that I've asked say they do also work in game, unless they just lied

[spiral mica]

If they could somehow cut some corners by reincorporating these missing hunter skins as early as possible and then just adding the lore to their bios later on I think that would be all the better. I'm fine with waiting on lore if it means we can get other features at a faster rate. If I had to highlight at least one complaint I have it would probably be the lack of certainty that we are indeed eventually going to get these missing hunter skins back with the addition of lore in their bios.

Like, I'd at least like to know it's coming that way I know it'll be worth the wait.

But with all that said and done it's actually huge that we're finally getting the ability to read the bios of hunters we already own again this patch.

[orchid tangle]

I jsut think it's completely silly that things got removed at all
I don't give you a cool new toy but in the process take away half of your other toys

[spiral mica]

I mean, yeah, I think it was rather unfortunate that many things got removed too, but like I said earlier I'm not a game developer so I have no clue how these things work or what could possibly be happening behind the scenes. I know the switch to 1896 was pretty rough, and not without issues, but I genuinely believe that things are getting better now.

Or I guess it would be more appropriate to say I want to believe that things are getting better now since there's just a lot I don't know regarding the development process.

[zenith perch]

Does anyone have pictures of the blood bond stiff

Stuff

[real cedar]

https://youtu.be/oLtitFFmRdc?feature=shared&t=813
This'll showcase the new bloodbond stuff except Dorothy Alice

[zenith perch]

That Marathon has the same style as the voodoo guy

[real cedar]

Yeah, probably has similar themes

[zenith perch]

Perfect weapons for the new dlc huntress

Do we also know whose gonna be event boosted

[real cedar]

Some of them, yeah. You can see em in some of the videos that showcase the new hunters in the grid view. I saw Trappers, Corvids, The Conspirator, Drowned Rat, Prodigal Son, The Bone Mason, Hawkshaw Jack, and surprisingly Silver Spur does not have an event boost despite being the Judge's henchman.

[zenith perch]

Drowned Rat?

Interesting

[real cedar]

In other news, I found more instances of changed lore. Previously, her bio was
Antonia Higuera was the only child of a wealthy rancher. She had to be tougher than the men who wanted to steal her inheritance. Betrayed by the one man she trusted, she left her home and sought solace in the violence of the Hunt.

And most importantly!

Blackwell lore!

After 10 months I finally get a fulfill a promise to this one guy who wanted to know more about Caitlynn Hammond lmao

[orchid tangle]

my grandma

[spiral mica]

Wasn't John Victor also born and raised in Louisiana?

[brazen root]

Protagonist vibes

[supple smelt]

has anyone seen the Dorothy Alice hunters

[supple smelt]

Fuller view

[orchid tangle]

I hate the nightmare bio sm man

[neat juniper]

Aw man, my imagination is no more :(
Guess I'll go kill people :)

[orchid tangle]

my (x) is no more guess I'll go kill people is too many hunters

but this one especially shines as like a middle school creepypasta

[supple smelt]

nothing especially bad about this one in comparison to everything else

Half the hunters are “he’s such a good mercenary… he kills his enemies swiftly… you never want to face him…”

[orchid tangle]

this one especially just feels random and edgy to me idk

girl who liked reading books is left alone in the bayou but those books trained her to survive demons and the most messed up humans imaginable but then one dude changes her entire world view to be evil and "possessed" is so strange to me

[neat juniper]

Ye

We had a good thing going with Alice in wonderland reference

Why put this nightmare into it
Makes no sense

[orchid tangle]

I think the alice madness crossover fell through and they had to come up with this last second

I think both of her skins look cool it's just the lore feels so bad imo when we don't have actual lore so all we have to go off is single paragraphs for everyone

[neat juniper]

Ye

Like AT LEAST make the downfall more epic than just

"That guy did it to her"

[orchid tangle]

I also can't help but feel they based some of her off this concept hunter with the dress design and the doll tied to her waist

which if that assumption is correct I'm gonna be sad cuz I always wanted simply this hunter

[granite shard]

I think her lore is better than her design. idk she has the same problem as red hood to me

in that her face is just too pretty

like she has the same big eyes as red hood

[orchid tangle]

they're def trying to make her seem like "unaffected" by the corruption in that first skin

she just looks like a normal girl you'd see in a town

but then whats the point of the second hunter gbhrh

[granite shard]

alice madness returns reference

[orchid tangle]

I recently picked up those games so... good timing ig

[granite shard]

good event lore can do a lot for underwhelming characters tho so I'm hoping that whatever her role is in the story that it ends up helping her out

[orchid tangle]

I hope they expand on it cuz I don't see how a girl who survives the bayou on her own is going strong all on her own with no real experience and then suddenly is just completely ruined by this one dude

I guess a snakeoils guy has to be charismatic but at what point of living in the bayou do you just shoot any freak you see come near you

[granite shard]

probably when you seem to have already snapped lol

like reading the dream description it sounds to me like she already lost her mind a bit with the tea party thing

[orchid tangle]

maybe she's just real lucky with the hunters she comes across

[granite shard]

I think she was probably killing them

anyway point being I think her backstory seems fine if a little generic and will probably be helped out by whatever her role in the event story is

[orchid tangle]

I'd have a tea party with sofia, lulu, brewer, the trappers, hex breaker, probably the kid though he'd find a way to ruin it

anyone else is coming with me in the big dynamite

[zenith perch]

we have event lore?

[granite shard]

I'm just hoping that they don't go full harley quinn with her since the fool's a whole joker thing

the way they talked about stuff in the dev stream yesterday makes it seem like we're getting event lore yeah

[zenith perch]

ah cause theres no lore in the bp

[orchid tangle]

I mean the brute stuff alone is more lore than we've gotten in awhile

so it's already been a step in the right direction

[supple smelt]

what does this mean?

oh is that a movie or something

[tired spear]

it's a game!

a fantastic game, even

The followup to American McGee's Alice

[supple smelt]

she almost looks like she had plastic surgery or something lol

[granite shard]

YEAH

SHE DOES

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