#lore-discussion

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real cedar
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It doesn't fit the lore too well either for just some guy to be getting recreated over and over by the sculptor

orchid tangle
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I don't want that either

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I want body horror hunter

neat juniper
supple smelt
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I need to be injected with teasers like the fool injected people with his special juice

granite shard
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hm

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can we try that again, a different way

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I'm not a fan of that one

supple smelt
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I’m not sure it’s in the budget

real dove
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Can't wait to see what else is changed/added

granite shard
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bird jail my beloved

real cedar
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So that's why it took 10 months, if layouts are changing that drastically. Entire new buildings and entire new elevated areas

real dove
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Yup. Makes sense

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likely the last map they were working on and if peli is an indication, likely some major changes

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looks like it got a facelift too

supple smelt
real cedar
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Hard to say exactly whether work was overlapping on it or sequential

supple smelt
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A bit of both most likely but they’re not doing 3 at once

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Unless their mapping team is way bigger than we all imagine lol

real dove
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yeah, cant be sure but doing all 3 at once seems silly

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dedicate to 1 at a time

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makes more sense to me but ja, who knows

real cedar
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I'd guess that pre-production of other map reworks was overlapping with the level designers actually changing the maps

supple smelt
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I’m not sure much pre production would go into this other than a designer giving notes

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But I’d imagine level designers also do the manual work in most cases

brazen root
real dove
brazen root
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The lack of cover in the uphill section surrounding it was my number 1 issue with the place

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Thank god

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This looks so good

granite shard
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I love bird jail so much

brazen root
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Looks like there's a massive opening in the side of the main building too

supple smelt
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A million new entrances too

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Wish I still had my group to play with when it comes out

mint wind
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Let's be mindful that this might be the change highlight, we still don't know if other compounds have been improved this drastically.

supple smelt
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even if they haven’t I think this was by far the worst compound to play in

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The only one I think an improvement could be good for would be that one giant barn place

brazen root
mint wind
real cedar
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Ash Creek could use some reworking, other than that I think most of DeSalle's compounds are solid

supple smelt
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Desalle is the most modern map so you’d expect it to take the least tweaking

brazen root
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Ass cheeks lumber as i used to call it

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The exterior area could use some more cover

real cedar
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Most of the Lumber themed compounds are a step down, funny enough

real dove
real cedar
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Sometimes you have an idea for a compound that seems legit but then doesn't work out when given to the players, like Gas Works

supple smelt
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I think gas works isn’t too annoying to fight in but often turns into the two towers fighting

real cedar
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That's the main problem, it funnels players into two core options for tackling the compound, the others aren't as viable. Like the underground tunnels might as well not exist

mint wind
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Gasworks is imo a missed opportunity to bring back double lair - compounds.

supple smelt
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My least favourite compound is the new rail yard place

mint wind
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Terminus ?

supple smelt
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ye

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Never had a fun fight there I feel like

mint wind
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Kinda disagree, the lair is open enough to make people willing to fight head on even if there's still the boss.

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The only compound I'm not a huge fan of would be the only farm there, but only because Hunt already has so many farms... Mammon still have the most well-thought compounds in general imo.

noble scarab
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Fingers crossed they did some work inside pelican too, the bottom was a cluster fuck and the top had weird sight lines, only directly across or down to parts of below

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If someone was holding the bottom with a shotgun and you didn’t have a full loadout of explosives there wasn’t much you could do

spiral mica
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DeSalle is going to be peak now

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Prison looks so incredible now

gilded umbra
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Definitely 👍🏼

earnest jungle
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So my library hold for Blood Meridian finally came up and: the first appearance of Judge Holden sure is something else

orchid tangle
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I've been rereading it since I last read it liek freshman year high school

fast rover
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@real dove he's read stuff and needs to know COOL details 😎

tiny apex
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What Hunter has the coolest lore?

granite shard
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it depends. I think for me it's ultimately the witch hunter

real cedar
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GUESS WHO'S BACK

granite shard
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"Something’s out there.
It feels familiar at first glance, but there's something off. The shape. The silence. The way it moves.
Whatever it is, keep your distance."

real cedar
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Since it took this long, surely they've de-circused it?

granite shard
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is it the bear? I don't recognize the shape but that's the only sort of AI I could think of that they added and removed

lucid anvil
granite shard
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okay yeah bear. probably decircused

real cedar
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The arm is 1000% the bear

lucid anvil
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Loved the bear, didn’t love that event so much

granite shard
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honestly I liked the non-post malone stuff

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and I liked the gatcha machine I just didn't like the david branding on it lol

lucid anvil
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At least it did for me.

earnest jungle
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I’m not sure it’s the bear but wait actually it might be the bear

granite shard
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the bear's really the only big mob they've added and taken away

earnest jungle
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At the end of Blood Meridian there’s a dancing bear that the judge kills after the kid compares him to it unfavorably

real cedar
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Scrawny arm and ropes on the snout, it's definitely Ursa Mortis

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Looks like the head spikes are gone maybe?

earnest jungle
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My other thought was that it was some kind of new exploding/fire mob what with the burning photograph

granite shard
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I'm with rai on it being the bear tbh

loud steeple
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The hand looks too human

granite shard
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eh, look at the leftmost arm

real dove
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MY BABY

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@visual finch we're going bear patting

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I hope

mint wind
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Bearby

real dove
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I have missed my belov

real cedar
granite shard
visual finch
brazen root
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So have we seen that thing before

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Okay yeah the bear did have funny arms

glossy karma
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Five bucks says bear will be a DeSalle exclusive Wild Target, and they're planning a fourth one for one of the other two maps

real cedar
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It'd be cool to have overlapping wild targets, like Rotjaw could spawn in all the Louisiana maps while some other wild target is DeSalle only or Lawson only

acoustic whale
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do people care about wild targets even?

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i'd rather they spend time on adding a new boss

granite shard
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also do we know if she's gonna be a wild target?

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she was basically meatman tier in the circus

acoustic whale
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she?

granite shard
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the bear

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I think having another meatman tier mob would make more sense, esp since the spear's niche got pushed towards the big AI wrecker category

orchid tangle
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I want her to spawn completely randomly with 0 indication where she is, that'd keep up a scare factor for a decent bit

granite shard
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dude imagine just hitting a bramble bush as you're running through the woods

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and suddenly she's chasing you down

orchid tangle
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I want it because the only time this game has made me jump is when I'm running through water to get distance on an enemy and fucking princess charges out of a bush directly infront of me

spiral mica
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I'd like the idea of the bear being a wild target on all the maps.

noble scarab
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The Bear would’ve been a good exclusive target for Colorado

spiral mica
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Yeah, I agree. I've also said this before, but I wish a lot of the monster appearances changed for Mammon's gulch. Instead of meatheads we'd have meatbears with leeches or something. Hellhounds could've been these really furry looking zombie wolves instead of the Italian mastiff looking hellhounds in the Bayou. Grunts would be wearing warmer clothing for the mountains.

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I think this kind of change to the monsters appearances would've helped the different identity that Mammon's gulch has from the Bayou as a map. It would've solidified the idea that we're definitely in a new and different place from the Bayou.

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It would basically be the Hunt Showdown equivalent of Dorothy Gale from The Wizard of Oz saying "we're not in Kansas anymore."

real cedar
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I could see it happen for the grunts and maybe the hives but the lore doesn't really support non-mastiff hellhounds and animal meatheads

spiral mica
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I mean, I could see a possibility where the Sculptor takes a couple of grizzly bears and fills them with leeches or the incursion affecting a pack of wolves. Really anything that could justify the monsters on Mammon's gulch appearing differently than the monsters seen in the Bayou.

glossy karma
orchid tangle
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whats the reason for non mastiff hounds

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is it like a hive thing where sculptor is just copy and pasting one example

real cedar
mint wind
granite shard
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Since we have that book of weapons entry where bunny had been referred to as a German shepherd

real cedar
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Maybe that's just an example of an unreliable narrator. I kinda assumed it was Crytek's mistake the way it gets disputed in two other spots but perhaps it's intentional, like Micah Mitchell's journal being the wrong year.
The counterargument of course is how do you get your own dogs breed that wrong, or how do you not know what year it is.

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But yeah they could easily put the work in to explain huge variants, they just haven't yet and I don't expect em to until Lore is firmly back in their focus

orchid tangle
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I'm still having contrasting emotions about lore
this event feels like... if we're gonna ever get chapters again it'll be here, but they JUST axed a bunch of people idk how that becomes a priority again

real cedar
orchid tangle
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this is true

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I might buy through the pass if they do chapters so I can get a video up of it first day for people

but if I really like the unlocks I might want to grind legit because I'm one of the 12 people who likes working for thigns I already bought

real cedar
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Events are the one time we have some real nice progression in Hunt, it is pretty nice to have stuff to work for

orchid tangle
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I hope you're right in that doc has two skins for one before he goes crazy and one after. Not like they haven't done that before

glossy karma
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Who's a good YouTuber for learning basic Hunt lore (like who/what the heck the sculptor is)?

real cedar
real dove
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isnt bare dude

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bear

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2 dude

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?>

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i thought they were hes in a description

icy locust
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yeah, this was before he mutated

real dove
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lollllllllllllll

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do they still jiggle tho

icy locust
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yes

real dove
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vgood

icy locust
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I've got a theory

real dove
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needs more arm

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add arm

icy locust
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yes

real dove
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got foot

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foot not arm tho

real cedar
real dove
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i swear they called them twin bear brothers

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but maybe crazy

real cedar
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Maybe on the gramophone in the circus?

real dove
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nah it was a post

brazen root
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A post malone?

supple smelt
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any post malones today?

topaz mirage
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I have a theory....

gilded umbra
real cedar
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Bah, the new post today is just the bilibili Darin one, and the bilibili one today is just the moses poultry one from a few days ago

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I'm still expecting the event's name to drop this week, maybe it's further away than I thought

granite shard
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surprising that none of the teasers have had like

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any new weapons in them

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usually that feels like what they start with? maybe they're acknowleding that people are kinda tired of the new weapon focus so they're putting eyes on the more interesting part of the update

real cedar
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Might be just another few variants this time and since DeSalle and Ursa are coming back that's much bigger

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Or maybe no new weapons, who knows

gilded umbra
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No, there’s something more to the latest post today. “Something waits in the wreckage” and it ain’t no mouse. 🐁

mint wind
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Squeak

spiral mica
# topaz mirage I have a theory....

I'm assuming your sudden return is because of Desalle? Hoping for the return of the UFO at Kingsnake mine? I'll admit it'll be fun to see all the little references, and Easter eggs on Desalle again.

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I think everyone can agree that they've missed this map.

topaz mirage
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I agree with this, but no comment on the alien stuff

gilded umbra
supple smelt
spiral mica
noble scarab
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The big ass cowboy pumpkin

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And during the inferno, ghost rider

gilded umbra
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I found a big fish wearing a hat. 🎩

mint wind
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iirc the Ghost Rider one is always there.

orchid tangle
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starting to doubt...

orchid tangle
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and it'll double because newer players

supple smelt
acoustic whale
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is the new desalle pic in announcements edited in a way?

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looks very high rez

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ingame engine can't be this clear

loud steeple
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All the trailer style pictures with hunters in them are way higher res than is attainable:

rugged harbor
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I think they’re trying to showcase that they’re bringing back more of the other Hunter models

loud steeple
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Oh true didn’t notice that

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I like the evolving hunters

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Gives me something to do

gilded umbra
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And my graphics on PS5 are very close to that because of my HDR settings and 4K TV. 📺

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PC (Max Settings)

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PS5 (Calibrated HDR)

orchid tangle
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idk if this was posted yet but from the CCP

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I'm sure theres some translation weirdness here so idk waht they mean by version?

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like name of the event? name of some new equipment?

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june 6 tho

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I can't imagine they're dropping the event on june 6 cuz no trailer yet and that's not a wednesday so maybe that's when the trailer drops

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game fest is also june 6 soo

supple smelt
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June 6 is just the giveaway I think

mint wind
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The chinese CMs are wild lel.

orchid tangle
real dove
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OOO

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Pearl has changed too

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Pearl my beloved

granite shard
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really love them replacing some of the "generic" structures (white houses/shacks) with more unique ones

real dove
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Agreed

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New upper floor entrance with that flooring break

granite shard
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yeah I like that

mint wind
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It's funny, before I didn't think much of the white shack. Now I'm glad it's gone.

spiral mica
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I see a new topside entrance from the front there, and the removal of those bushes on the outside of the wall, but it looks like there's going to be additional cover once you actually get into the compound.

noble scarab
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Pearl was already impossible to defend now it’s worse lol

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Somehow I found it both hard to defend and hard to push

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I think it’s my least favorite desalle compound

loud steeple
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Upper Desalle is the correct answer

spiral mica
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Maybe with these new changes they're suggesting the idea of players attacking from the front instead of the usual rotate and strike from behind that most players would do.

green pollen
gilded umbra
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Pearl Plantation looks great. I can’t wait to die there. HntBigSad

upbeat kiln
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Was there a story attached to Garden of the Witch?

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I can't seem to find any in the library of the great Rai

granite shard
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Not really

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It was like harvest of ghosts where they had a narrative blurb in the press kit but I wouldn’t say it was a story as much as a justification for the skins

upbeat kiln
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ah I see

granite shard
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It was basically the welders use machinery and technology and the brujas use nature and stuff and they had to work together to fight a new onslaught of corruption

upbeat kiln
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Was there conflict before the cooperation?

granite shard
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It really wasn’t gone into that deeply haha. Here’s all of the blurbs abt the “story” from the different press releases

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It says they were at odds but nothing really specified

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Ultimately it’s why I’m still honestly not expecting a narrative for the upcoming event. These sounded like they could lead into something and we didn’t even get a blog during gotw lol

spiral mica
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So judging by the screenshots they shared so far I'm guessing that Pelican, Moses and Pearl are the compounds they worked on the most.

noble scarab
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I hope the middle-ish fishery one got a bit of a work

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That one was basically a rectangle with walls and not much room to move in or out

earnest jungle
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While this is probably just flavor text I dig how it meshes with the Researcher's Speculations that the torturous human experiments performed by Warden Jabez on the inmates rather than being a symptom of the corruption is what drew the corruption to DeSale in the first place.

gilded umbra
earnest jungle
granite shard
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I feel like it’s just like harvest of ghosts

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They just had something short to give a narrative justification

noble scarab
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Harvest of ghosts had a narrative justification?

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Or a narrative at all? Lmao

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It had fun ideas tho, at least in regards to the seemingly evil pumpkin entity

loud steeple
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Wasn’t harvest of ghosts when they removed lore

real dove
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Mhm

noble scarab
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Yea it was the first to not have chapters

real dove
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Tho tbf

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The lore in scorched felt like Hellboy lore

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And not really event lore

noble scarab
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It was the hellborns book of monsters chapters

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With some stuff for the backers mixed in

granite shard
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Harvest of ghosts had this whole thing abt pumpkin boy weaponizing darksight

earnest jungle
granite shard
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No, that’s kinda what I’m talking abt lol

earnest jungle
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Feels like a wasted opportunity to have introduced more offensive combat traits that used dark sight.

granite shard
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These events have had small narrative blurbs in press releases that seem to set up a bigger story

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And then nothing

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Which is my fear for this upcoming event

earnest jungle
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Which is fair

real cedar
orchid tangle
granite shard
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Looks like the next DLC

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OH MY GOD

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AFTER TWO YEARS

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A woman

mint wind
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Finally

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Woman.

granite shard
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Now it’s time to go two years before the next one

spiral mica
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Now the real question is if a mask conceals her face.

supple smelt
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it's only been a year and.... 6 DLC

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lmao the last solo female hunter was actually 2 years ago

granite shard
supple smelt
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the only other two were bundled

granite shard
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Yeah

supple smelt
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before that they had almost 6 female hunters in a row

granite shard
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They were still broken up w me tho

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Men*

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Like it was three and then a man

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Iirc

spiral mica
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Also, don't the uppercut skins from garden of the witch mention Blanchett graves?

granite shard
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Never a streak like this

supple smelt
granite shard
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Yeah, three, scaramuccia, and then three

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As opposed to every single DLC for two years containing a man lmao

supple smelt
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it is funny, I wonder what that looks like for BB hunters

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or BP ones

granite shard
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I know we’ve had a few events where no women were launched

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I put together a doc awhile back of the ratio

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It was pretty bad

spiral mica
supple smelt
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post malone's BP didn't have any, just giggles and the circus lady as BB hunters

spiral mica
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Harvest of Ghosts didn't have any either in the BP.

supple smelt
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it's funny that there's been such a long streak without any DLC ones cause in-game I feel like it probably is 50/50 male/female

supple smelt
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and whenever a female skin releases I feel like I see it 10x more often than new male hunter skins

granite shard
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Okay this was around the harvest of ghost release that I put this together

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I think right before

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Time frame was after bone mason through probably silver spur’s launch

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The ratio got way skewed towards men lol

supple smelt
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I wish we could still see every hunter even ones that can't be obtained anymore in the menu

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I liked going over old event skins

spiral mica
spiral mica
granite shard
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On a cynical level, them selling better is probably why they’re more often sold as BB hunters— especially ones w multiple versions

spiral mica
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Now we just can't see certain things we don't own, and we also can't read the description of hunters we own.

supple smelt
supple smelt
granite shard
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The BB gain in game is so negligible that you’re likely going to put however much money down into the game

supple smelt
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what's the real point of splitting things into DLCs vs bundles atp, they charge more for BB stuff anyways lol

granite shard
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Shrug emoji

real cedar
# granite shard https://x.com/HuntShowdown/status/1929191275342819392

Now this is an interesting ass DLC.
The Ghost was first referenced in Interview with Fenella Cleve, the Vetterli Marksman mastery
What I mean is, that it was then I noticed the strange things that weren't hunters, or the rot. Did you ever hear the old stories about the Pearl Plantation?

If they're connecting that deep, why not do a second connection? What if it's Fiona, mad with grief over what Lewis DeSalle did to her husband and all those men?

real dove
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God don't get my hopes up

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Rn I'm hoping it's a bride

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But callback would be dope

orchid tangle
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Damn smalls can finally rest

orchid tangle
granite shard
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😂😂😂

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Hunt doesn’t really do pride month stuff (shame, I feel like they could at least do subtle pride charms of like bundles of feathers in more natural versions the different flag colors) but this is a pride month release and therefore she should be a lesbian

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In this essay I—

orchid tangle
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"The 'The Ghost of Blanchett Graves' DLC has been postponed! We are terribly sorry for the inconvenience but in place of it we'll be releasing our next partnership DLC 'Freddy Fazbear's® Wrath'"

granite shard
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Lmfaoooooooo

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William afton went BACK IN TIME and he’s springing a trap on all the hunters

orchid tangle
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Can't wait for those dusters I've had the nutcracker for so long

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Wait I switched to knuckle knife what am I talking about

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Why nowwww

granite shard
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I’m abt to move back to my beloved dusters with these

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They look fantastic

noble scarab
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Yall don’t just abuse the throwing axes?

granite shard
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I need something to fuck up immos

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Using the butt of my gun is too stamina intensive pensive_cowboy

noble scarab
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I think the only times I’ve been fucked over by it or wishing I had a blunt weapon I’ve been able to use chokes

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It is annoying tho

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But I can’t give up the axe utility

orchid tangle
noble scarab
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Love a good aesthetics load out

granite shard
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I also generally keep throwing axes on me

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I have them instead of fusees or a flare gun

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I hate instaburn shit so I avoid it even if it’s objectively the better play

orchid tangle
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My fourth tool slot is reserved for derringers

granite shard
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King

noble scarab
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I go axes, medkit, flares/flaregun, chokes

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Sometimes I sub out for traps

granite shard
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I hate traps with my entire being

loud steeple
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Valid

noble scarab
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I at least don’t trap extracts like some people

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And with my luck I always spawn on the opposite side of the map as the boss and don’t get a chance to set them up

orchid tangle
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I don't take traps as I cannot trust my friends

real cedar
granite shard
orchid tangle
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that too

granite shard
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If there is a trap I will run into it

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Bc they get put in the areas people like to go

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However

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i am people

orchid tangle
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one of my friends loves poison hand crossbow

granite shard
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i like to go there

orchid tangle
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that was a nightmare when there was that glitch where poison clouds kinda went invisible at certain angles

granite shard
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Oh god

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Tho for me I used to always run an antidote shot

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So that wouldn’t be as much of a concern

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Nowadays I bring a milk shot w me so poison is scarier

orchid tangle
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I've almost always ran 4 weak vit shots because I'm too lazy to make consumable loadouts
I was too lazy to even make strong vit shot loadouts for later in prestiges

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I should start bringing milk shots though

granite shard
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I usually do 2 big regen, 1 stam, and 1 milk

orchid tangle
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yep yep always 4 shots and I'll use whatever explosives I find off of corpses

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god I love injecting myself with mystery shots

granite shard
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Me w shots

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There’s a reason I’m always broke

orchid tangle
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part of me misses random 3 traits for hunters so I could waste all my frest prestige money on private eyes trying to get one without hundred hands

loud steeple
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I misss the 3 randoms traits because I would just play what worked with them

earnest jungle
earnest jungle
real cedar
earnest jungle
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I have three theories for who this Ghost of Blanchet Graves is going to be:
Theory One (The boring one): The Ghost is a totally new hunter with no previous connections to the lore
Theory Two (The Cool One): The Ghost is going to be a reference/allusion/expy of an existing character/fanart/concept art/Hunt the Gilded Age
Theory Three (The Really cool one): The Ghost is going to be a lore character: namely the Widow Blanchett or someone connected to her.

spiral mica
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Was anyone able to confirm if those uppercut skins from Garden of the witch have anything to do with her?

real cedar
spiral mica
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Alright this is good info to know, thanks. I like idea that it could be a bride.

real dove
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Don't hold your breath on it

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I just like the idea too

earnest jungle
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Discovered some concept art on Art Station for Hunt Showdown that includes unused assets for tarot cards
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/lV4yVo

ArtStation

Creatures have overrun our world, and their flesh is the hunters bounty in a tense match-based, first person bounty hunt from CRYTEK. In a team of two hunters you have to track and kill creatures. The bounties are high, but so are the risks.

Since the redesign of the game we started developing a symbolic picture language for the traits. That w...

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Presumably these were going to be for the True Deck and it just makese me wonder how that was going to work from a gameplay and story perspective.

supple smelt
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Teaser for today?

earnest jungle
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Well they're six years old so I doubt that

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The Tarot of the True Deck got scrapped back during Beta

spiral mica
tiny apex
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So what is the lore of the game and where does it take place? Is there a reason has to be there?

sinful warren
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Lore files pinned in the channel.

brazen root
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rai about to drop a book

real cedar
# tiny apex So what is the lore of the game and where does it take place? Is there a reason ...

There was some early ideas for why it had to be the Louisiana bayou but those ultimately got scrapped.
What remains is that the Sculptor manifests wherever it can, spreading pockets of corruption called Incursions, the two currently are southeast of New Orleans in the bayou and west of Colorado Springs in the mountains.
It's not explained exactly how or why incursions begin, but some theories suggest humans can bring the corruption by tampering with the occult - such as what happened in Colorado with rich people using monster bounties in alchemical experiments - or excessive cruelty. It spreads like an infection, so that's why Hunters are paid well to kill monsters and collect their bounties.

orchid tangle
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I need a modern day hunt universe where it's just youtubers making clickbaity stuff about "infinte money strategies" and it's just that lore entry about people farming spider over and over again but now it's a youtuber recommending shitty ammo brands and being sponsored by some company making "ethical" knock off lynch juice

orchid tangle
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waow

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so the ursa return is it's like child?

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I mean it's gonna be a reskin obviously

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but it seems like it's supposed to be different in lore

earnest jungle
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Dorothy Alice has piqued my interest

orchid tangle
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I'm so glad they confirmed the fool is body horror and not a mask

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though my first thought of him being hidden in alice farms is how it's one of the few compounds I never want to defend in because of how many holes it has to look through

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just hide him in one of the bushes to the right of the compound

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ez pz

vocal canopy
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there are even users with the F word in theyr name

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what is wrong here ?

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find the error

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i wont say it twice

granite shard
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I forget who mentioned the tarot theme but seems intentional—

hazy sage
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Lynch as a kid was using Tarot too

granite shard
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I am going to assume this is unrelated to lynch for now

noble scarab
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They’ve been pushing the tarot theme by way of the last events song and the new focus on the UI that should have an recap using the tarot-style cards

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Plus it’s always been part of the hunt vibe

granite shard
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Yeah

hazy sage
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The original Meathead was found dead by an amatuer taxidermist, and later revived by the strike of lightning

eternal hazel
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Any info on this Ada Ruth Shell

hazy sage
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`Interview with Ada Ruth Shell
Interviewer. “AHA member"
Date: Retracted
Typewritten, questions omitted(...), 8.5" x 11"
1/4

Mama always said not to let my mouth hang open, or a spider'd crawl in. Didn't believe her at the time, but after she went, I never forgot it. I was 13 the day it happened. I know because it was my birthday. Nothing to celebrate. Barely any food to speak of. And Mama so sad. Mama'd a babe that'd died that same year, and Papa'd followed it up to Heaven. Her life was hard and getting harder. Seven kids living, four under the ground, and nobody to help keep us in mutton.

We had one room and a leaky roof, all of us sleeping where we could. No happy memories there. Only found out I was pregnant after we'd all been brought in to the asylum. Doctor told me. I told him well then Praise Jesus, cause I'm the Virgin Mary, and he shook his head. But I wasn't lying. I had never had relations. When they cut the baby out of me, I wasn't supposed to see, but I did. It was strange, and hard, and dead, like a piece of old, chewed-up wood. Don't have any living children.
`

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`Patient Record

Name:
Ada Ruth Shell (female, colored, 13 years)
Edward Shell (male, colored, 9 years)
Henry Shell (male, colored, 9 years)
Grace Shell (female, colored, 8 years)
Samuel Shell (male, colored, 5 years)
`

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`Admitted: July 19, 8:00

Admittance notes: Five children admitted together. Siblings. Two did not survive incident. Neighbor delivered to Dr. F., reported strange behavior.

Ada Ruth Shell - Will not speak. Crying, but sits quietly. No outward signs of physical injury. 3 months pregnant.

Edward Shell - Restless, pacing. Pupils dilated, vacant gaze. Multiple lacerations on the left arm. Will not speak.

Henry Shell - Restless, in constant motion. Multiple lacerations on the left side of the face. Will not speak.

Grace Shell - Clings to intake nurse. Will not speak but makes shrill noises, as an infant crying. Attempted to suckle though clearly long past the age of weaning. Hair and face caked in blood and possibly feces. Agitated. Refused bath. Given sedative.`

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Okay so appearntly she lost an arm trying to take down her mother too

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iirc, the bugs that make up the Hive swarm forced thier way insde her and were building a nest inside her before she managed to kill her mother, this was later removed surgically

eternal hazel
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Sheesh…

supple smelt
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Chat this update may be further away than I thought

real cedar
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Ha I thought the song might be teasing it

orchid tangle
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Damn

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Phone notification showed me this much and cut off

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What a hype scam

real cedar
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It's pretty normal for them to announce the name but not annouce the date. If it's anything like previous events, that means it's two weeks away, June 18th. Next week the trailer will drop giving the date.

supple smelt
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The Pale Judge – A regular judge in Mammon's Gulch turned fallen lawman, he traded his gavel for a gun and a deck of tarot cards. He dishes out sentences on behalf of fate itself, and he's here to deal the final verdict to The Fool.

real cedar
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If he's a Mammon's Gulch judge, why have 1894 on the poster 🤔

granite shard
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also redmartin's a desalle guy lol

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guess they just felt forced to continue referencing mammon's gulch

supple smelt
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Wasn’t that already after he had become a little rogue in theory

real cedar
# supple smelt wdym?

The first video teaser where the Judge put a bounty on The Fool has "1894" at the bottom of the poster that Silver Spur holds up.
If it's 1894, what does a Colorado Judge care about a Louisiana crime?

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Mammon's Gulch only turned in 1896

supple smelt
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good question actually

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Can’t wait to never find out

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I wonder if they’ll continue with vague allusions to a story or whether it’ll actually be written this time

granite shard
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my expectation is that we get the same as harvest of ghosts/garden of the witch

supple smelt
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Cause this time it’s actually semi written though

granite shard
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my hope is that we get an actual narrative on the site or something

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I don't think we're going to get anything in the BP or in game again unfortunately

supple smelt
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Harvest of Ghosts was vaguely “witches vs welders oooooh spoooky rivalry”

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sorry

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Wrong event

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Garden of the witch

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I don’t remember anything even alluding to a story in harvest

real cedar
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Garden of the Witch had the backstory of them being auxiliary support Hunters that got corrupted so that was enough to launch a narrative off of

granite shard
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harvest was set up as an unlikely trio going against pumpkinhead who was weaponizing darksight

real cedar
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Man imagine what a cool narrative there could be if they wanted to go that way. Doc Redmartin narrating in the past what happened to him, the Pale Judge narrating in the present the hunt for the Fool

supple smelt
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Could be very cool

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But will likely be nothing other than a few battlepass skins

orchid tangle
granite shard
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O

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wow had my hand on the wrong part of the keyboard lol

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I'm not convinced there's going to be an event narrative*

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I could be wrong but idk

real cedar
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I'll always dare to hope 💪 I think we're getting lore this time

granite shard
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🫡

strange bane
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Hope and faith , hope and faith

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I will remain hopeful

gilded umbra
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Judgement Of The Fool 1HuntCheer

zealous yacht
gilded umbra
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I hope they bring back Thundershower. 🌧️

zealous yacht
brazen root
granite shard
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maybe in 94 he got in trouble in mammon's gulch and then it was only in 96 that the judge tracked him all the way down in desalle?

real cedar
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The bounty lists DeSalle specifically, maybe that could be where the poster was printed

granite shard
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ugh the perils of marketing vs narrative strike again I guess

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lol

real cedar
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If it's just marketing then perhaps 1894 is a typo. Otherwise I'd assume it's narrative

gilded umbra
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Is it possible the weather conditions will return with different events? The same way they were initially introduced? They seem to be intertwined with the lore of the previous events.

noble scarab
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We don’t know when they’ll be back

gilded umbra
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Obviously, but I was speculating. Those weather conditions originally rolled out with events so it seems more than plausible that’s how they will return. And they were part of the lore of the events themselves so I am just wondering if they will return the same way.

real cedar
orchid tangle
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they're just gonna rerun tide of shadows

quaint pawn
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Probably has been said before but it's way to funny to me that the opening lines of let us prey just straight up had the event name lol

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"The garden of the witch, the judgement of the fool"

granite shard
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Ikr

earnest jungle
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I look forward to the next Events: "Footstpes on the Path," and "Someone's Following You"

granite shard
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It makes me wonder if there’s hints for anything else in there tho

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Maybe something to keep an eye out for with whatever song they make for this event

real dove
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I wondered when the name was going to be noticed in the song 👀

orchid tangle
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I think smalls was right about the werewolf show crossover then because the line "I'm howling at the moon" in make them bleed

granite shard
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teen wolf crossover let's go

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I'll get to play as my beloved chris argent

orchid tangle
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I'd honestly kill for some generic monster hunter... uh hunters...

like just a dude in a suit with some wooden stakes in his belt for vampires.

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like the witch hunter I don't think has a single bad outfit looking at her concept arts

granite shard
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I feel like the hex breaker hits that monster hunter aesthetic pretty well

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he's basically van helsing lol

orchid tangle
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I like hex

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though I will blame his addition for the reason they got the idea for chu ko nu

granite shard
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how so?

orchid tangle
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I never watched those movies but his character apparently uses a repeating crossbow and people wanted it hard after his addition or took it as a teaser for one coming.

what I'm really saying is I'm just salty we haven't gotten a new pistol family in a long time

granite shard
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honestly I think zhuge liu was probably more to blame for the chu ko nu

noble scarab
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Van helsings crossbow was different

granite shard
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they were probaby looking into stuff for the cn audience and saw that

noble scarab
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And not hand cranked like that, nor would it have been compatible with explosive bolts

orchid tangle
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supposedly

noble scarab
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I would’ve preferred his style of one compared to what we got, or something like the ironside but for the crossbow

orchid tangle
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I mean is it a real weapon

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I doubt they'd just take a weapon made from another IP

noble scarab
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They take characters from other ips, why not a crossbow

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Plus we could get some more weird guns

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Tho we saw how that could’ve gone with posts sawblade launcher

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So maybe not

orchid tangle
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fun world was probably an easier IP to get than a universal studios one

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though I've been liking the real 1800s people additions

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give me general sickles next it fits all the terrible plays I make

smoky anchor
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Got spikes n padding on him

orchid tangle
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couldn't pay me to use that guy

smoky anchor
orchid tangle
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they wasted that name on him he's just trying to find his poor lost dog

smoky anchor
orchid tangle
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his armor is dumb as hell

smoky anchor
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Nahhhh

spiral mica
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I thought the Beast hunter's whole story was him trying to weaponize Hellhounds? He also had nightmares about monsters or something too.

smoky anchor
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Looks cool af wym

spiral mica
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Honestly it never made sense why he fell in with the Demented pact if he was actively trying to tame the results of an incursion and had fears about monsters.

earnest jungle
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Speaking of Crossovers I have a bunch of ideas for crossovers:
Hunt x Hunger
Hunt x Call of Juarez
Hunt x Undead Nightmare
Hunt x Preist
Hunt x Evil West
Hunt x Hard West
Hunt x Weird West
Hunt x West of Dead
Hunt x Deadlands

Any of which would fit the Tone and aesthetic of Hunt Showdown far more than god damn Ghost Face and Post Malone

orchid tangle
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and is clearly bad at it

spiral mica
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I know a lot of people think his mask makes him look like robocop, but it's actually a real thing called a splatter mask. They were primarily used by tank operators during the first world war. They're basically just a way to protect your eyes from debris and shrapnel getting launched into your face.

granite shard
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I think his mission to tame the hellhounds already as a general act of madness

orchid tangle
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it makes it look... implanted into him

real cedar
spiral mica
earnest jungle
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I think these two would make excellent inspirations for hunters

smoky anchor
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The one on the right it’s sorta already in the game

spiral mica
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I'm not so sure about the second image. Haven't there been discussions in here before about plate armored hunters not really being a good idea in the game?

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I mean, some of the hunters we've got now are a little bit armored especially the recent welder hunters, but I don't think I'd want one wearing an entire plated chest piece like that. It feels out of place for the game.

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The first image reminds me of Kid with the poncho but older and not drowned.

real cedar
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If it's just a cuirass it can almost work as an eccentricity, that guy in the pic clearly can rock it, but yeah it doesn't fit quite right with Hunt.
I dare not delve too much into that topic, last time I did it summoned Ghostface 😅

smoky anchor
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It think it 100% fits

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Closer to hunt than the welders imo

spiral mica
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I recall the Viking hunters being criticized a lot because 1. they look more like cosplayers instead of Vikings and 2. Vikings don't really fit the theme of hunt.

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I feel like a plated hunter would also receive a similar level of criticism.

real cedar
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Breastplates were used in the Civil War now and then so it's not out of the question, but tonally it's off as it belongs more to Napoleonic era and earlier
The same way you can say yeah sure a guy with tattoos that styles himself as a warrior of old is not out of the question, but cmon it's a viking larper.

spiral mica
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I get breastplates were used during the Civil war and first world war periods, but I'm more so critical of the idea of some kind of knightly themed hunter. I'm fine with all the Ned Kelly stuff, but I just wouldn't want a fully plated hunter that looks like a knight or something too fantasy related.

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Those Viking hunters already give me fantasy character renaissance fair vibes and I do not like it at all.

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The male Viking hunter even has the brand of sacrifice from Berserk on his upper back just below the neck, and although I'm a huge Berserk fan and think the reference is cool it also feels totally out of place in the Hunt setting.

earnest jungle
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This is the full skin so like it’s just the old breastplate

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It’s not like a full knight thing

noble scarab
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i mean the vikings we got are closer to modern cosplayers than even the 1890s themed cosplayers theyre trying to be

fickle sluice
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There's a lot of issues with the hunt vikings. And they are the same issues that most of the modern pseudoviking aesthetic has.

brazen root
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Hollywood vikings

fickle sluice
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With all the icky connotations and misconceptions

supple smelt
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there needs to be a word for vikingaboos

fickle sluice
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I have one, but that paints with too broad a brush and is unkind to people who are merely enthusiastic and not politically problematic

granite shard
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lmao

supple smelt
earnest jungle
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Can’t even say the words lol

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Neo-Pagans who consider themselves to be the inheritors of a certain infamous Mid Century German Nationalist Party responsible for the murder of tens of millions of people in one of the bloodiest global conflicts in human history

real cedar
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Interesting, another video teaser but not the trailer

noble scarab
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We get to see the judge tho, I like his coat

supple smelt
visual finch
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First person that came to my mind seeing the judge is Vincent D'Onofrio

noble scarab
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Not all norse neo pagans fall into that category

real cedar
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The head movements at the start, ye

earnest jungle
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But they do exists and they certainly make life difficult for everyone.

noble scarab
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But the people you see running around with the 3 triangles and winged othalas certainly do

earnest jungle
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A bigger problem within the Neo-Pagan movement is the appropriation of Central Asian, African, Polynesian, and Native American religious practices.

real cedar
earnest jungle
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Especially when drawing from closed ethno-religious groups who genuinely have been persecuted in ways modern Euro-American Neo-Pagans just aren’t

visual finch
earnest jungle
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And there is an inherent clash between those two goals because Christianity is the dominant religion in Europe and Christianity is by its very nature a very syncretic religion

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Not a lot really changed when Germanic and Norse Peoples converted. Certain practices certainly stopped but many were just brought into their new Christian Religion. Temples became Churches; pagan festivals were overlaid on Christian festivals. Like the funny thing about Yule is that Christmas wasn’t so much overlaid on Yule as Yule was overlaid on Christmas. Yule was celebrated in February and at the time Christmas was a very minor religious holiday defined mostly by your land lord/king throwing a big party with lots of booze and meat so you’d be less likely to revolt.

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And much of what we know about Germanic Pagan Religions come from Christian Sources and a lot of those stories appear to have already been Christianized.

noble scarab
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The monk that wrote down a lot of the Icelandic Norse stories was going off of long gone material as well

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Or poorly recorded oral traditions, I can’t quite recall

earnest jungle
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Like even as a child I noticed there was an odd amount of similarity between the Ragnarok Narrative and the Apocalypse Narrative of the Book of Revelations.

noble scarab
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Baldr is Jesus

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More or less

earnest jungle
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And while that could have its origins in the Proto-Indo European Religious origins of both faiths; I’m very skeptical of that because the Book of Revelations is very much a story of the time it was written.

supple smelt
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The one diehard Norse Pagan I know of is uhhh… let’s just say what you’d expect of one

noble scarab
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They got a couple Celtic pantheon members that way too, lugh was jesused and Brigid turned into a saint

earnest jungle
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It was a coded message to Christians living in Asia Minor encouraging them to resits Roman Repression and Assimilation.

noble scarab
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Revelations was John tripping balls in cave and writing about nero I think

earnest jungle
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Basically yeah: using fantastical and apocalyptic language to disguise what is basically a message to Roman Christians to become ungovernable and resist Roman Rule

supple smelt
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what’s funny is most religions didn’t tend to be exclusive in the ancient world, it was often the case that people believed in the existence of other pantheon’s gods but that they had no bearing over where they lived

earnest jungle
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Then the Roman Emperors figured out that maybe having a centralized religion might be useful to their empire and the rest is history.

supple smelt
earnest jungle
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The Catholic Church was basically a creation of the Roman Emperors who figured out that since repression and conversion wasn’t working they should try Rehabilitation and Assimilation.

supple smelt
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It’s later editions that attribute them to apostles etc and attribute stories to certain people

earnest jungle
supple smelt
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It’s interesting that there is no original Bible or anything to source from, so you can’t truly know whether what’s down on paper is an edited thing or not

earnest jungle
fickle sluice
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Certainly not the kind of lore discussion I expected to come back to. But very interesting

supple smelt
earnest jungle
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The Christian Hell is largely a result of translation.

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Three different underworlds merged into one because the Latin Vulgate Bible used the same word of Hades, Gahanna, and Tartarous: Infernus.

supple smelt
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My favourite result of translation or reinterpretation is that Goliath is initially just a tall man that eventually turns into a giant titan of a human being

lone maple
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Hey gamers, let's avoid discussing religion

earnest jungle
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Okay

supple smelt
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okay, will the fool be Daredevil?

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Hell’s Kitchen map when???

earnest jungle
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Lol

lone maple
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Feel free to discuss outside the server, if you would like to continue

supple smelt
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Something feels not quite right when you pair a hunt model with a voice and animation lol

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Almost looks like an SFM thing sometimes

earnest jungle
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I figured we were going on public school rules were we can talk about religion in a historical and anthropological context as it relates to the game but even there we kinda got away from the original topic.

real dove
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It usually devolves into stuff we don't want

earnest jungle
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So yeah the problem with the Vikings is they’re anachronistic. They look more like what people today imagine vikings looked like and not what people in the 1890s would have looked like

real dove
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Better to keep it to dms

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:)

earnest jungle
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Fair

real dove
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Das all

supple smelt
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Imagine american larpers in 1896 in period accurate larpking garb

earnest jungle
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And neither is really what Medieval Scandinavians would have likely looked like

supple smelt
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Horned helmet larpers would be so funny

real dove
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God no

earnest jungle
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It would be

real dove
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The chick with her mop hair is enough

earnest jungle
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Operatic Vikings

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Wagner’s Operas existed in 1895

supple smelt
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okay but now it’s both anachronistic to actual Vikings and what people in 1896 thought Vikings looked like based off popular depictions from the period

granite shard
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Man I need to watch the new video but I’m fighting w a dumb computer at work fuckedupcat fuckedupcat fuckedupcat

earnest jungle
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Imagine a team of people dressed like this running straight at tou

supple smelt
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have her be tied to scaramuccia

earnest jungle
supple smelt
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I feel like both Scandinavians being reverent of their Viking past and/or Americans larping as them is a very new cultural thing anyhow

earnest jungle
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The image of a hunter in tights and stained dirtied opera costume sprinting through the swamps with a spear just tickles me sideways

supple smelt
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like I already can’t imagine scandi larpers in the US in the 50s let alone the 1890s

earnest jungle
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Actually it wouldn’t be

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Now that I think about it

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The two would be hella eccentric but not necessarily anachronistic

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The Völkisch has its origins in the 19th century.

supple smelt
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I wonder how much thought went into their inclusion other than “it’d be cool to have Vikings”

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What’s their lore like

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if there is much

earnest jungle
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It’s very dumb

earnest jungle
noble scarab
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They’re brother and sister and they’re larping and they fight over their gun as I recall

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But rexli or rai will have the full vision

earnest jungle
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Yeah that’s basically it

supple smelt
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Incredible larp, can’t believe it will go on to influence all post 90s Vikings

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truly trend setters

earnest jungle
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Which to be fair; conceptually a pair of weirdos getting very into pre-christian Norse/Germanic/Celtic religion is not out of place for the time.

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Neo-Paganism as it currently exists has its origins in the 19th century.

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The Unification of Germany inspired a similar revival in the cultural interest of Ancient Germany as the Italian Unification inspired a revival in the cultural interest or Rome.

supple smelt
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It’s more the way they larp, they’re literally characters from the show Vikings

earnest jungle
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Exactly

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The problem is not that Viking larpers are out of place for the 1890s the problem is the style of larp

supple smelt
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which would be much more of a neat/funny thing to see

earnest jungle
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So yeah the Viking twins could have existed in the 1890s… and probably would have had truly reprehensible politics.

noble scarab
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I bet most hunters have reprehensible politics

earnest jungle
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This revival was inherently tied to German Unification and the desire to create a unified German National Identity and we all know how that ended…

earnest jungle
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I would not care to ask Hardin and Statesman their opinions on Civil Rights

real dove
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Fam

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Let's not

earnest jungle
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Sorry

earnest jungle
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Like I feel conflicted on this because as a history minor I believe historical fiction and fiction set in a historical setting has some responsibility to not misrepresent the material conditions of the period; but, I also know not everyone wants to have a discussion on “the unfortunate political realities of the 19th century” when Hunt has at best vaguely alluded to them.

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It’s easy for me to get caught up and taken away with my own special interests while forgetting not everyone shares those interests

real dove
noble scarab
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Hunts kinda got the deadlands thing going on

earnest jungle
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For better and worse yeah

supple smelt
real dove
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You heat it up slowly

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It's a joke

noble scarab
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This kills the frog

real dove
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To be fair

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If someone was pouring steaks cooked just right down on me

granite shard
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unrelated but I did finally get a chance to watch the little trailer and them casting a VA for the judge does give me more hope that they could do something for a story here

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I'm still not expecting anything

real dove
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Agreed

granite shard
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but hopefully

real dove
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I think maybe a blog post

supple smelt
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didn’t Mr hunt down the freeman union guy have a VA

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what’s his name

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Otis?

tulip kindle
noble scarab
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All 3 “main” hunters had a VA

supple smelt
noble scarab
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Mmm phone autocorrect

real dove
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👀

supple smelt
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They’ve got to have like 3 voice actors total

noble scarab
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They had more or are able to hire them when wanted

supple smelt
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Probably freelance yeah

noble scarab
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For the acted lore entries and trailers

granite shard
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yeah they contract with a casting director to get VAs for these things

noble scarab
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I think the guy that did hayali did a post on Reddit or something

glossy karma
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Voice acting seems so fun

orchid tangle
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Everytime I go on a trail ride hunt teasers drop

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Maybe I need to do it more

fickle sluice
gilded umbra
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That teaser trailer was impressive. 1HuntCheer

cloud ravine
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Hey y’all I need to ask something dumb

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So rn we have the courruption contained right

fickle sluice
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I mean...

upbeat kiln
cloud ravine
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Thanks

orchid tangle
fickle sluice
real cedar
orchid tangle
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most of the tier hunters look old enough to at least be alive during the war

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it's not like he coulda served in uniform anyway

real cedar
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Ye I remember you talking about that part, I'm just thinking whether they could actually have any connection or if it's just clothing to them

orchid tangle
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I just don't think it's something they should promote at all without at least giving it context, nobody is gonna really think he just decided to wear the coat of his oppressors because he liked it.

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like Jesse is a thief which can put some doubt on his service

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this guys a no face, not like he most tier 2s are in the game anymore anyway though

real cedar
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I don't think they're promoting it at all when it seems like you're the only one who's noticed, and most of the time even the people who are looking for it think there's zero confederate stuff anywhere.
Trying to put a lore spin on why that character model exists is just fanwank ultimately

orchid tangle
granite shard
orchid tangle
granite shard
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and I think that it's not them treading into bad territory but more of this is a game made by europeans

real cedar
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Could be a case of pinterest mislabeling a picture of a civil war uniform as the digital artists are searching reference pics

granite shard
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yeah

orchid tangle
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it 100% wasn't intentional

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I just know CMs have spoken about having history people and I'm tired of these inaccurate things popping up in media

granite shard
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they have history people but also sometimes things just slip through the cracks

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esp w a lot of these early tiered hunter designs, that's a lot of stuff at once where they needed to reference american military garb vaguely of the time period but also have all of the hunters look different enough from each other

gilded umbra
orchid tangle
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I think they either didn't pay attention to the uniforms they were adding or believe in some lost cause weirdness

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and that doesn't make them bad

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but I do think the hunter was a mistake and I think they should change his design if they readd that one

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OR

gilded umbra
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Right of course, but accuracy is important.

orchid tangle
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make him a real hunter and say the coat was a trophy from a killed rebel

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I don't think it was pandering or anything

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like smalls says it's not even an american company and the civil war isn't in focus of hunt they just didn't know most likely

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I'm just salty because they've claimed to have history people working on and they've been passive aggressive before about criticism to it

gilded umbra
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He could even have a stolen confederate bandana tied around his wrist but maybe that would be visually controversial.

spiral mica
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😂

earnest jungle
# orchid tangle most of the tier hunters look old enough to at least be alive during the war

Old enough to have been alive during and old enough to have served in the civil war are very very different. Someone who was old enough to serve in the Civil War would be in their early 50s at youngest in the 1895 at youngest. Occam's razor would indicate that the simplest explanation of these uniforms is that they are of hunters who served more recently in the national guard/armed forces than the civil war

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It also just could have been intended to be a khaki uniform

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It could also be a war trophy he took to show off that he killed a confederate soldier in combat

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Or he may have been an enslave laborer or teamster who was given a uniform sometime during or after the war.

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Or hell he could have been one of the like 200 Black Virginians recruited into the Confederate Army in the last week of the civil war that never saw combat

orchid tangle
acoustic whale
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we want more post malone lore

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who agrees

gilded umbra
modern violet
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wouldn't be cool if we get a field/compound boss that is a group of hunters that is challenging to kill?

real cedar
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Perhaps if they did something about a botched inoculation causing corruption and only gave them world weapons.
AI that can shoot back are real troublesome for games like this cause even if you code it to avoid aiming for the head a stray bullet can still instakill which is just no fun for anyone

modern violet
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Ah I guess you are right

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I am thinking too much about tarkov

brazen root
gilded umbra
small pelican
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Question: What is the Lore to Mr. Orwell Chary. Is he dead? Is he alive? Has he been stopped or does he already plan his next move? What happend to him? What happend to the lads that tried to Stop/kill him?

granite shard
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he could potentially come back but right now he got dusted after sofia shot the murmurstone and he's in a little hellscape in the land of the dead getting his ass beat by the moon now

noble scarab
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Local man fights moon

upbeat kiln
granite shard
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oh pog

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it'd be nice if they went back and did this for the hellborn but his lore probably got put into scorched earth

brazen root
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actual written book of monsters lore holy

granite shard
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lynch moment

lofty quarry
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In the most recent teaser, wasn't this one of the breakables during Traitor's moon? What's it doing in Desalle?

granite shard
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damn I'm really here for this monster entry

upbeat kiln
mint wind
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Yo that lore is messed up lel.

granite shard
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I hope they write new weapon lore

mint wind
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||Local hunter sews newbie into bear fur, newbie turns into undead bear, only 1 head but a guy inside||

real cedar
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The image itself also seems to show a new Sparks Sniper. Might be from the Ghost of Blanchett Graves DLC by the style of it

granite shard
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what's the full image?

real cedar
granite shard
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oh pog yeah

real cedar
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Oh right there's also an image on the lore

granite shard
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also prob the fool's hands

real cedar
supple smelt
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Sparks looks to be in a similar style to the ghostface stuff and uppercut from last event

upbeat kiln
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Almost as fast as Crytek

real cedar
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Oh shit, the stillwater doll easter eggs have lore now

gilded umbra
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Who is the hunter shooting at the Brute?

real cedar
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Monroe

gilded umbra
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I thought it was him. His knife is cool. 🔪

brazen root
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thats way too fast

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slow down

real cedar
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🤔 Now that's some odd lore. This is the first time we get a direct description of the Sculptor taking action

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It also puts further creedence on the theories that Pelican Island Prison was either the source of the Louisiana corruption, or perhaps at least the source of DeSalle's spreading. Wanton cruelty seems to be what allows the Sculptor in

upbeat kiln
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I think this is one the most interesting entries we've had in a long time

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We don't have a lot to go by in terms of the Sculptor being active in its corruption of beings or matter, and I think this ties so well into the presumptions we have made over the years

real dove
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OH SHIT LORE

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I'm late

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But HELL YEAH PEEPS WERE SO BACK

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I was wondering if mountain man was the guy until he sewed the dude into the skin

gilded umbra
tiny apex
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I still don’t understand the lore of hunt, is the Sculptor a necromancer?

earnest jungle
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HALLELUJAH

ocean linden
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Sculptor is an eldritch entity

real cedar
# tiny apex I still don’t understand the lore of hunt, is the Sculptor a necromancer?

More of an eldritch horror. It doesn't have a physical form that anyone really knows of, it's more like an intelligent force that can only work within corrupted areas. Like if magnetism had a will.
The Sculptor takes the souls of those who die, get corrupted, or otherwise interest it, and either reshapes it into something of its liking (Like the Spider and Brute) or just copies its twisted form and remakes it over and over.

earnest jungle
real cedar
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Another interesting thing to note from that story - the Inoculation isn't worth much when you're touched directly by the Sculptor. It might prevent the infection or deterioration but if the Sculptor wants to, it can just take you.

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The Modern Researcher also makes a good point on what attracts the Sculptor. It's not just cruelty, it's creation. The Butcher, the Hellborn, Jabez's experiments with Ego-Dissolution, Scrapbeak, they're all sculpting things already. So even the nastiest people in the Bayou like Glanton and Salter wouldn't be able to catch its attention as they just mutilate and destroy.

earnest jungle
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THE LORE LIVES

tiny apex
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So what is dark sight? What are the powers hunters have in lore ?

supple smelt
supple smelt
real cedar
# tiny apex So what is dark sight? What are the powers hunters have in lore ?

Dark Sight is a power gained from the Inoculation, which itself is part science, part ritual magic. Every Hunter is required to take it if they want to survive traveling in the Incursion.
The old inoculation was made from plants including Datura, which was historically used to induce occult visions. The new inoculation is made from the essence of captured eldritch entities that are drawn in using human sacrifice and bound in ropes made of human skin. There might be a third inoculation on the horizon though, we'll see.
Dark Sight lets Hunters see more, connect with the rends in the world, and training with it seems to allow them to manipulate life force and for whatever reason teleport and use telekinesis (This never shows up in lore so maybe it's just gameplay)

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In lore, Dark Sight leads Hunters to rifts (clues) and breaking open those clues let them peer through the hole and see through the eyes of the Target they're hunting.

tiny apex
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The infected zombies are what? People without inoculation caught up in the incursion?

real cedar
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Yeah, that's why you see prisoner grunts at prisons, miner grunts in the mines, etc. There are some that are unique individuals that the sculptor copies as well, such as the Doctor Grunt.

mint wind
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@real dove not too sad that Ursa design is now only for memories ? Since the Brute doesn't have 2 heads...

real cedar
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The real sad part is we don't have a name for the Brute

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The whiteshirt inside didn't get identified 😔

spiral mica
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Glad the bear looks normal now

noble scarab
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Rip unidentified white shirt

plucky lynx
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who is Grahm? bru

spiral mica
plucky lynx
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my first thought too lmfao

spiral mica
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Oh wait

real cedar
plucky lynx
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ahh okay

strange bane
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Burned man is shiloh i think

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Jefferson

spiral mica
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Is it Ishim?

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The priest skin?

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I can't remember his name

strange bane
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Could be wrong

real cedar
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Maybe he'll show up somewhere later, in another story or as a skin

spiral mica
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Nvm his name is Grid or Gird or something I think

strange bane
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Priest is Ibrahim or something yeah

real cedar
spiral mica
strange bane
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Oh yeh

spiral mica
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Maybe it is Joshua then lol

noble scarab
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This still gives us some confusing notes, especially about desalle. If someone was cutting up hunters and feeding them to people in the saloon it couldn’t have been fully corrupted like we see in game, at least at that point

spiral mica
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1911 in hunt?

strange bane
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Would be busted

spiral mica
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Thing would get dumdum too

strange bane
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Sheeesh

spiral mica
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1911 hollow points are very popular

strange bane
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Time for dual wielding 1911s , dante style

spiral mica
strange bane
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The tryhards will quake in fear until they adopt it into their ever present meta

strange bane
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Lol

spiral mica
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Dante jumpscare

real cedar
strange bane
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Nah nero would use the Haymaker

noble scarab
spiral mica
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Going back to the new bear look I'm really happy they've de-circused it. It would've looked really weird and out of place with all the circus junk still hanging from it.

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You can actually see more of the bear itself which is cool. There's details I notice that I didn't notice during the circus event.

real cedar
spiral mica
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Like, it looks like it has even more extra arms than I thought.

prime current
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Lore wise

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Asset wise probably

spiral mica
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Yeah, that's what I meant.

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It's the same asset without the circus stuff on it.

prime current
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Hm

noble scarab
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And missing an (external) head

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It’s still got 2 heads tho

prime current
noble scarab
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I wonder what buddy was going for by putting him in there

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Just cruelty?

real cedar
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Just some fun, yeah

elfin spoke
real cedar
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A 6* veteran Rat playing with his food

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Poor whiteshirt didn't realize you can't trust people that trap supply points

elfin spoke
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What's interesting to me is that Grahm seems to be quiet the prolific hunter. Was there from the beginning and worked with a couple other famous hunters

noble scarab
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That’s what vigilant is for

real cedar
noble scarab
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He knew about lynch making skin ropes

real cedar
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I did overlook that. While he doesn't directly attribute it to Lynch, it's still an outside source confirming the details of one of Hayden Collins' stories.

elfin spoke
earnest jungle
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Okay I’ve got a lot to say but it will all have to wait until I get home

cloud ravine
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I have a funny lore idea

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A boss with the ban hammer xD

gilded umbra
orchid tangle
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this journal is so fucking goosd

warm lagoon
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researcher is such a G

neat juniper
earnest jungle
gilded umbra
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I miss that saloon in DeSalle.

earnest jungle
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DeSalle and Mammon's Gulch both still have a small dwindling civilian population just based on what we've seen; it's just they don't appear in game because they don't need to.

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If you want a Narrative Explanation; whatever civilian population exists in dead zones actively hides from hunters because they're very justafiably affraid they'll be murdered if found.

gilded umbra
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That makes sense. They’re all hiding from us.

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Thank you for that explanation.

earnest jungle
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And logically we know there must be some kind of civilian population because we know there are people who are affiliated with but not actual members of the AHA serving as guides to lead people into and out of the deadzones. Avis Wyndham Jr was one such individual.

gilded umbra
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I hope there is a spoken word story with the next event. Those were always really cool.

earnest jungle
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Traditionally the voice acting in event trailers has been taken from the narration of the event storyline; but that hasn't been the case in a while now.

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To return to the Brute however, I have a lot of thoughts to share.

gilded umbra
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Please do, the lore is one of the best parts of the game to me.

earnest jungle
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The brute was initially speculated to be the offspring of Ursus Mortis; but these entries make me think it was the other way around. Ursus Mortis had been a pair of orphaned bear cubs taken in by the murder Circus. I think the Mother Bear killed by "Graham" and the Whiteshirt was the mother of those orphaned cubs.

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As for this "Graham" figure; I am at a bit of a loss. The Journal paints a vivid picture of a seasoned veteran hunter with a sadistic streak a mile long. He's been around long enough to have known of Hannah Kinnley, The Salter Brothers, and Lynch; was at one point a fur trapper in Colorado; and wears a bear skin coat with a cowl made from it's skull.

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There is off the top of my head one figure who meets the description of all of these descriptions: Thomas Bridger.

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However I have my doubts that "Grham" is a pseudonym for Thomas Bridger

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For starters Bridger doesn't wear a bearskin coat he wears a Bearskin cloak.

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And additionally Graham's sadisim is out of character for Thomas Bridger.

real cedar
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Bridger is missing the sadistic streak part, unless he's very very good at acting. The REDACTED Letters paint him as frightened when he was helping sadists, and the Trappers view him as a surrogate father, a helpful person

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It would be quite a twist that he's got some secret hobbies though

earnest jungle
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As I said Graham's personality seems at odds with how Thomas Bridger has previously been characterized... but another possibility exists...

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The Flavor text for the legendary Shotgun Eulogy was named in honor of one of Thomas' lovers/rivals-an enemy with benefits if you will-whose name has never been revealed from a life he has long since left behind.

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We were never given a name for this-eventually-deceased lover; but part of me wonders if Graham may have been this man.

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I will admit the evidence is tenuous: they're both trappers who have been to Colorado, wear bearskin clothes, and they're both old enough to be Veternas of the Hunt

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And if my boyfriend stitched some dumb kid into a bearskin for shits and giggles creating some horific monster I too would call him Bastard.

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My final theory is that Graham maybe a pseudonym for another infamous veteran with a massive sadistic streak; who was an associate of Lynch: and that's Danie Glanton.

real cedar
earnest jungle
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Hunters were known to opperate under false names and identities; Timothy Stone made a career out of selling the papers and identities of dead hunters to living hunters so they could travel freely.

earnest jungle
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I'll see if I can find a picture of Urusus Mortis walking on all fours: that should be able to help us determine whether They're a Blackbear or Grizzly.

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Blackbears and Grizzlies have a different profile: black bears have a higher hind quarters than grizzlies and a prominent shoulder hump. As far as I can tell Ursa Mortis doesn't seem to have a shoulder hump but it's hard to tell in the videos I've found of people fighitng it

real cedar
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Claw shape doesn't help either cause a corrupted bear can have long ass spooky claws without it meaning much, hard to be sure especially when the Brute reuses assets.

earnest jungle
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A possible explanation is that Ursa Mortis didn't really have a specific species outside of "Demon Bear" when being created. And of course this is a European Game Studio so this could be another "Europeans are not especially familiar with American ecosystems and geography" along with the Mountains of Southern Louisiana

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So far Art Station has turned up nothing for Ursa Mortis but I'll keep digging

warm lagoon
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some nat geo stuff going on here

real cedar
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Pawprint is the same, seems more black bear on both but idk

earnest jungle
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Snout wise The Brute and the Right head of the Ursa Mortis appear to have a straight profile more like a black bear's but the left head looks more dished like a grizzly bear.

real cedar
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Definitely seems like they're the species Ursus daemonium

earnest jungle
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Hell maybe Ursa Mortis is a hybrid: though that would only raise further questions given the historic range of the American Brown Bear

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The pointed ears of the poster seem to resemble that of a black bear but if Im being honest the stance of both bears resemble more of a grizzly.

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Perhaps this is a "Mrs. Margaret's Beast Taming Show" scenario where the circus is deliberately trying to trick the audience into believing the bears they're seeing are grizzlies.

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Speaking of which.

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If they bring back the Murder Circus I propse they replace Post Malone with "Mrs. Margaret" from RDR2

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She fits the tone of Hunt a lot better than Postie did I do declare.

noble scarab
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Arthur as a hunter when

earnest jungle
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lol

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In all seriousness I really wish they'ed give us more explicitly queer hunters now that narrative aspects of the game. The Viper and Gar and Iron Bark are the only explicitly trans/nb hunters we have

real dove
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You need lore to flesh that out tho

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I guess we have blurbs

earnest jungle
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They could do something with the rookie progression hunters

real dove
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Ja. If we get more

granite shard
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And Sofia

earnest jungle
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Those hunters tend to get longer stories

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Right Sofia is agender; though that never really gets much of a mention in the game.

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Though admittedly neither does Gar’s transness get much attention

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And trans people did exist in the period. One of Custer’s soldiers was married to a Mexican-American Transwoman who worked as an Army nurse named Mrs. Nash.

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And Albert Cashier was a veteran of the US civil War and a Trans Man

real dove
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We have multiple trans hunters, not as if they aren't aware

earnest jungle
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I know I just want more

real dove
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I think we have to get out of an era and see where this new one goes

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Give them time- looking like we might be getting lore back and that's a solid win for now. Who knows what's coming now that things are going in a new direction

earnest jungle
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I’ve said it before but I would pay good money for an official Hunt Showdown Book/Comic/Graphic novel

real dove
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Agreed

warm lagoon
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I would too

tiny apex
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Water devils are parasites that’s terrifying

earnest jungle
orchid tangle
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what'd I do

earnest jungle
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You made that joke and now suddenly we're getting lore about a living human being stuffed into a bear suit

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You are the reason we got this lore

orchid tangle
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uhh uhhhhhh
the new event shall contain a nitro express revolver, a maxim gun, and we are adding body armor

earnest jungle
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Quick now give us next week's loto numbers

orchid tangle
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I think 6