lore-discussion

[spiral mica]

I'd argue Lonely howl has more honor than you think. Iron bark sold the primal pact out to lawless.

Gn Gorb

[mint wind]

Something I don't really get : who were the Bee and Pig from Hayali story ? Beekeeper should be dead in the LoD and Cleaver should have been executed between ToC and ToD.

[granite shard]

Yup that’s the question everyone has lol

I can see the beekeeper still being alive since she had to write her final journal entry

But BC is uhhhhh

Yea

[noble scarab]

Welcome to hunt lore, where death means nothing and time isn’t real

[neat juniper]

Now here's question
How this connects us to dragon ball verse?

[green pollen]

GOKU KILLED BLACKCOAT!

PUT IT IN THE LORE

NOW!

[woven berry]

So random question, who all is dead?

Like Bad Hand, Butcher's Cleaver, The Kid, and The Rat are all dead in cannon

Anyone else?

Like Finch and Mr. Charry as well but they aren't playable

[granite shard]

Butcher’s cleaver is maybe alive based on hayali referring to bee and pig

I think the skinned has a good chance at being dead— the gar stabbed him through the lungs w a bomb lance

[woven berry]

Hayali's entire play is just really hard to read

[granite shard]

The gar is dead

I think hayali could be fucking around w the names he gave them tbh

[woven berry]

Oh yeah, we saw her in the land of the dead

[granite shard]

Butcher’s cleaver seemed pretty dead dead in tide of desolation but who knows

Kid/rat/bad hand I don’t consider dead dead since they’re undead

[woven berry]

Yeah, he got executed right at the start lol

[woven berry]

Yeah but that's still dead

Imma countit

[granite shard]

Eh, they’re about as dead as anyone else in the bayou these days

The captain’s double dead

[woven berry]

Okay so
Bad Hand, Kid, Rat, Skinned, Gar, Butcher's Cleaver

[granite shard]

Thirteenth mate is also a zombie so

[woven berry]

Yeah but we never knew him when he was alive

So I don't count him

[granite shard]

The most solidly dead rn are gar and captain lafite

[woven berry]

There is a chance that Bee Keeper is dead

Last we heard from her was that extremly cryptic scene in the land of the dead

Where she was prob tripping balls or something

[granite shard]

Bee keeper had to write her journal

I think she’s alive

[woven berry]

Fair enough

Also, did the grave digger ever recover

[granite shard]

Kevin has died and resurrected a few times

[woven berry]

becuse didn't he have a heart attack from the spine alter at the start of Desolation's Wake or something?

[granite shard]

Not a heart attack, more he was just driven mad by the land of the dead

[woven berry]

Yeah but did he recover? I don't think he died but we haven't heard from him since

[granite shard]

He’s still around

[woven berry]

Also is the Statesman Preston?

The current event is mostly about Preston and how he eccidentally evoked Hellborn trying to get more oil

Is the Statesman Preston?

[granite shard]

No

They’re two separate people

[woven berry]

Okay, I wasn't sure

I am guessing Statesman went back to politics after Desolation's Wake

Also, what is going on with Hayali

Like he did some stuff in the current event and it's alluded to by researcher that he was hanging with some demented

But what did he actually do other than kidnap Researcher for some reason

[granite shard]

He was hanging out around the bayou and stumbled across the two demented people (maybe butcher’s cleaver and beekeeper or he just called them bee and pig bc he’s silly) and went along with them in order to not be murdered

[woven berry]

He is based on shadow puppet players from the Ottoman Empire so I doubt the animals he assigned ment too much

[granite shard]

And then hung out w them for a while longer to gather story stuff, then when they came across the researcher he saw that as a convenient out and managed to get the two of them to fuck off while getting a new story out of the researcher

[woven berry]

Other than maybe personality

[woven berry]

That makes sence

We know he was in Mammon's because he was messing with the incense in that one scene towards the end

[granite shard]

Basically he was just a silly guy trying to not get murdered lmao

[woven berry]

Sounds about right for his chaotic ass

[spiral mica]

Didn't beekeeper turn into a monster?

at the end of tide of desolation

[granite shard]

There was a big bug monster she watched the drowned pact fight against, but she did not specifically turn into it

Presumably she stayed human and lived bc she wrote in her journal summarizing stuff

[spiral mica]

aw I was hoping she was writing her last journal entry as some kind of giant grotesque bug thing

kinda like those memes with the tarantula typing on a computer about how great spiders are

[grave dagger]

I need a spider themed hunter...

[spiral mica]

so what's the full story between Hacksaw jack and Private eye?

All I really know is they're both detectives from New York and Private eye commissioned a pair of ornate scottfields as a symbol of their friendship which was supposedly eventually stained in blood.

not sure if there's anything beyond that or if that's just it

[real cedar]

Hawkshaw is corrupt and worked with the Pelican Island Prison to cover their crimes. It's a little unclear but it sounds like he either died or never returned to New York after the Prison massacre. He worked with Mr. Chary and the Infernal Pact.
Candice began working with Hardin when she arrived in New Orleans, and managed to get an in with the AHA which she wants to investigate. She was eventually asked to return to New York by the detective agency but she ignored it in favor of more bloodshed. She stuck with her partner and joined the Infernal Pact working with Mr. Chary.

[spiral mica]

So there's a chance they're both dead from the shootout between the Death pact and Infernal pact during tide of corruption?

[real cedar]

Yeah, they both were at the shootout so maybe they're dead now. If we never hear from then again then it's a fair guess

Ah I keep having to read closer to get the full details, these events are messy sometimes. Private Eye was for sure at the shootout, Hawkshaw was on the steamboat earlier working on preparations but wasn't described in the last chapter.

[spiral mica]

I see I didn't remember it mentioning about Hawksaw on the steamboat

[real cedar]

Ah nah I was wrong again

I hate making sense of the events 😂

[spiral mica]

They're pretty vague yeah

[real cedar]

It's so dense with information, every sentence is giving like three new facts

[spiral mica]

kinda reminds me of fromsoft games like Elden ring

dense with info but vague and up for interpretation

[real cedar]

So Hawkshaw was with the rest of the Infernal pact working for Chary in preparation for the ritual but he didn't get described at the shootout

he coulda been there still

[spiral mica]

That's what I was thinking too

I'm sure he survived Pelican prison and made it all the way to tide of corruption

but now he could be dead

[mint wind]

Isn't the Beekeper last entry her... actually giving birth to the monster the Drowned faced ?
I recall she was desappointed in her daughter, and wanted to have another child, and this one popped out (and got impaled).

[spiral mica]

I thought she turned into the monster not gave birth to it

Although it wouldn't be the first time something gave birth to something horrific in the lore

[magic basin]

Is the guy who discovered the Stalker Beetles alive?

[spiral mica]

I recall reading in Rai's collection that he lives

But I'm sure Rai can give you a more accurate answer

[real cedar]

There's only the one online blog about the guy and it doesn't end with his death so presumably he lived for a while longer. He later gets credited with the species' taxonomical name in the Book of Weapons so he wasn't forgotten at least.

[spiral mica]

woah so he's like a ✨Zoologist✨ and ✨Historian✨

[night rover]

When this happens in the middle of a fight, I want to slam my face into my desk

[green pollen]

Hawkshaw, more like Hawk Tua.

[granite shard]

Mods ban this guy

😂😂😂💖💖💖

[green pollen]

This is the only time i'll ever do it, you won't hear a zip of tua from my lips any more

[granite shard]

You’re on thin ice…

You might say you’re being watched like a… like a hawk…

[noble scarab]

☠️

[granite shard]

[visual finch]

[tiny plover]

Nah she's just there to bare witness. She's just some lunatic stanning the Devil kinda beat.

[tiny plover]

She and the rest of the hunters got pooped out of the Land of the Dead.

Even a bunch of hunters who had died waaay prior, like the Butcher's Cleaver, came back. Revived from Scuptor mumbo jumbo. Statues.

[spiral mica]

oh interesting

so maybe the bee and pig mentioned in the event really is beekeeper and butcher's cleaver

[chrome tree]

Regarding dead hunters, I am pretty sure Black Coat is also dead for a long while

[real dove]

how so?

[granite shard]

Tbh we don’t know if people were revived. I think Hayali’s narration there’s a chance that he’s fucking around w the names he assigned and they’re not the beekeeper & butcher’s cleaver

[chrome tree]

In the old book of weapons there was a story called “bad as they seem”. It was a story about two girls who got their mother and later their adoptive uncle killed by someone. They became hunters to get revenge. They later tracked the killer down and killed him. The reveal was that he was black coat and was their real father who abandoned them after their birth.

[granite shard]

That was a fictionalized retelling of the lives of the twins. If you read the researcher’s notes, a lot of them talk abt questioning the validity of things in the text, and how it should be taken as both the gospel truth and also a complete lie until you get something that verifies on way or the other

So based on the black coat being alive in tide of corruption, we can assume that him being killed by the twins was made up by Collins

It’s likely he was their shitty deadbeat father, and they did have some sort of confrontation, but them killing him was an exaggeration made for the sake of a good story

[chrome tree]

Oh okay, I remember being confused about finding black coat in the event lore. Tbh, I think the people who write event lore did not read old material, because it is scartered all over the place. As a result we have a lot of inconsistencies like that

[granite shard]

That’s likely not the case, I think it’s more likely that they saw an opportunity with an unreliable narrator to be able to use a popular character more than immediately killing him off

Especially with the way that we’ve had old story threads starting to be picked up by the exact people writing the event lore, I think it’s very unlikely that they’ve not read the material

[mint wind]

Do we have more infos about the twins tho ?

[granite shard]

Nothing big as of late, but in the mako entry we did hear that Hail Mary was in touch w Jos and they were exchanging letters and whatnot

[chrome tree]

Idk, beekeeper and butchers cleaver coming back only makes me believe they are not very invested in keeping consistency. Of course we can argue that in Hayali’s story it is not them, but why confuse the players so much. It is heavily alluded it is them imo. Maybe they got revived like everyone else does 😄
edit: beekeeper maybe alive, but cleaver definately died previously

[granite shard]

Okay but there’s also no way the people writing the scorched earth’s event lore also didn’t read the tide of desolation event lore

Because they’re the same people who wrote both

There was a narrative choice there, and if we continue getting event lore going forward we’ll likely get stuff expanded more upon

But like for the black coat, it’s a very clever use of an already questioned in universe text to get more utilization out of a popular character

[chrome tree]

Is this confirmed? First two chapters of Moon Trilogy had very different storytelling than in third chapter Devils Moon. I assumed someone left crytek and someone else took over lore part, hence the heavy shift on storytelling style within the same trilogy of events. Idk, I am not hating on it, I enjoy reading all the eventslore, but it is difficult to put everything into their place, I just assume it is because of different writers. I may be wrong though

[granite shard]

The moon trilogy was likely experimental because all three events shifted in how story was being told. Devil’s moon was the most different from the other event stories but it was more in line with “traditional” hunt story delivery.

But sometime between before tide of shadows most/all of the prior writing team shifted over to another crytek project and a new, smaller team took over

The moon trilogy was written by one team and the tides trilogy was written by another. If something came out after June 2023 it was written by the newer team, and that includes the increased connection to the older storylines

I just think that being quick to blame things on incompetence or a lack of knowledge is just a dangerous way of thinking when it comes to an art form like story telling. Especially longer form story telling where things get revealed in chunks spread out across months

[real dove]

exactly

[chrome tree]

I disagree that it is dangerous to think this way about a lore of a live service videogame. Hunt is primarily a videogame, and I guess the writers have to adapt towards what the devs want to put out. What I mean, I doubt that the writers come up with new bosses or wildcard contracts, map weather or trait ideas first. It is conceived by game devs, and the story is then written for it to match the theme of the mechanics and new content. Furthermore, Crytek is a company, and in companies there are always a rotation of workers. We have seen lead game designers change, and Hunt moving in a bit different direction than it was in beta/early stages. When lore does not make a lot of consistency, it is natural to link it to these reasons. And I don’t think I qualify for being quick to blame, I am playing the game and am invested in the lore for 3 and a half years now

[granite shard]

there are mechanics that are expanded upon in the lore that they're likely having to work around per game development stuff, but things like "Hayali comes across two demented pact members he calls Bee and Pig" and "The Black Coat is alive" are purposeful choices by the narrative team. That is not something directed down to go along with gameplay, that's a choice being made for story telling purposes.

Teams do change. I said that the writing team changed, but not to the point where it would have been a new team who hadn't read the prior Tides lore for Scorched Earth. That is why I'm saying this was a purposeful narrative choice and why I think chalking it up to incompetence/lack of knowledge isn't great. I don't know if we're going to see a continuation of the storyline established in Scorched Earth due to layoffs in the recent months, but there was likely a plan in place to expand upon what Hayali established (either solidifying yes, that was the beekeeper & butcher's cleaver and here is why they're around, or by going "he's a storyteller who was making shit up, here's who he met") because Butcher's Cleaver dying was something the people who wrote Scorched Earth also wrote.

Even if that was a directive from above, that they needed to bring Butcher's Cleaver back, there was more than likely going to be an in-universe explanation for what happened. We got the start of a story arc with Scorched Earth, part of this is we just have to wait to see what exactly is coming next.

after tide of desolation I had felt really frustrated by the lack of any sort of conclusion, and then a few weeks later desolation's wake was announced and we got the wrap up that I was hoping for. it's not a far stretch to imagine that there are/were plans for something similar in the future

[chrome tree]

Fair points, sad to hear about layoffs, didn’t know about that

[spiral mica]

I just wanted to point out here that they also have a habit of introducing characters into the lore and then immediately killing them off in the following events. Gar was featured in tide of shadows and was confirmed to be dead in tide or corruption. Skinned was also featured and killed off too.

Other hunters like Burnt marshall and Helmsman I'm unsure about but could possibly be dead

It's possible that Burnt marshall perished with the rest of the infernal pact after their encounter with the death pact and according to both the tide of desolation event story and the description of the depth charge skin it's possible drowned rat may have killed Helmsman

[real dove]

Well, to be fair, they need to kinda explain why a non-returning hunter goes away

so

easy to just kill them

[spiral mica]

Yeah I mean this is their IP and these are their characters so as far as I'm concerned they can do whatever they want with them

And because of the environment and nature of storytelling this game has they can pretty much also revive any hunter they so choose

Gar could come back as a drowned or something else entirely because she banished with rotjaw and we know banished targets can return through the sculptor's influence

There's almost as many hunters that have died and come back as there are hunters that have died and remained dead

[granite shard]

The drowned hunters were specifically resurrected by Lynch to bring sacrifices into the land of the dead, it doesn’t seem like something that happens via the sculptor’s influence

[spiral mica]

Yeah and didn't you also say at some point that all the death pact members were deceased but returned?

[granite shard]

The tide of corruption lore implied that people weren’t staying dead (death pact camping a body waiting for the person to come back alive) but we haven’t really seen an actual character come back that way

The death pact seemed to have been prevented from fully dying and entering the land of the dead

Death/the lord of the dead didn’t let them stay dead

[spiral mica]

Yeah so that wouldn't be sculptor either that'd just be death itself preventing the reaping

But I'm saying there exists many hunters that have been deceased but return

Not necessarily that it's because of the Sculptor

[granite shard]

I’m just trying to minimize confusion based on specific language lol. The drowned are a specific sort of undead and it’s unlikely that we’ll see more of them

[spiral mica]

Yeah maybe but you never know. If they ever decide to bring back Drowned for a future event it's entirely possible we could get more Drowned members.

I do think it's cool that we're seeing completely different types of undead separated from the sculptor type of undead

Not even in the sense of like "oh this type of undead is special because it can do this" but like a completely new type of undead

[noble scarab]

We’ve got the drowned, the corrupted/grunts, the living previously dead hunters, a voodoo zombie, and I feel like I’m missing a few

Surprised we don’t have a Frankensteins monster hunter yet

Could be a fun project for the plague docs

[granite shard]

I feel like mary ochenkov is close in terms of like

Mad science

But yeah not dead body parts smooshed together

[noble scarab]

Plus whatever our Egyptian hunter is

Is she a mummy of sorts?

[granite shard]

More like affected by mummy curse

[noble scarab]

It’d be fun to see a hunter revived by or associated with a non sculptor related force

The old lore talked about other entities that could presumably do that type of thing

[granite shard]

Yeah I think the closest to that is gonna be Kevin

Since he’s died at least once and the moon rezzed him

[noble scarab]

We love our skill challenged moon boy

[granite shard]

Amen

[spiral mica]

I hope Kevin and the moon returns for the upcoming Halloween event

[real cedar]

New song releasing on October 13th 🥳

I'm assuming it's going to be the theme of Harvest of Ghosts

[granite shard]

yeah I think we should see the next event a few days before it

since iirc the last song dropped on spotify a few days after this event

[real cedar]

That would mean they're basically going straight into the next event with no break, not even a week of normal Hunt.
I think it's the opposite this time around, song is getting released then the event comes later

[granite shard]

They’ve talked before abt wanting events to be more of seasons, which is why I’m leaning more towards it starts immediately

Plus Halloween event needs to leave time for Halloween

[spiral mica]

I hope they keep up with the more intense theme they've been going with the music

[amber harbor]

killer art

[spiral mica]

Make them Bleed gets my blood pumping perfect before a firefight

[frank bobcat]

The mummy lady "shroud" seemingly can't die

[frank bobcat]

Bee and pig 😌

[rugged harbor]

New lore, they invented this basic word document font in 1896

[real cedar]

Huh, I was surprised to learn Sans Serif dates back to 1816

[fast yacht]

Is hawkshaw Jack dead in canon, I keep reading about how he’s separated and disappears on stuff regarding his partner but I don’t know if anything actually alludes to what happened to him

[spiral mica]

It's possible he was killed in the tide of corruption story during the shootout between the infernal pact and death pact. We don't exactly know for sure.

[rotund ferry]

I love the fact that Hardin isn't a hypocrite, I always hate the "Result >>> Mean + Logical" characters because they're done like shit, but Hardin is a rare case that's actually good written and his "result" is really effective (just ask yourself why the booster shots are still as meta as today, Vitality Shots, Stamina Shots, Regen Shots)

Unlike most Archetype of these characters, His circumstance is very understandable despite how fucked it is, he's actually sane and effective in what he did.

I mean, having a walking doomdays clock of demons on Humanity is surely a helluva pressure, and the most of the moral method requires times.

[lucid anvil]

Is this the new event name?

[real cedar]

I'm assuming so, since they replaced Scorched Earth with that name in some of the current Battle Pass text, the progression and upgrade tabs.

[lucid anvil]

Did they? Huh. I don’t know how i didn’t see that XD

[lucid anvil]

Huh… I doubt that’s deliberate.

Though it is unsurprising

[real cedar]

Yeah it's definitely an oversight

[noble scarab]

Fingers crossed well see a skin for the new carbine

But also the last event didn’t leave an obvious direction for the story, so I’m curious what they’ll do

We still don’t know what new monster was chopping people in half

[worthy abyss]

Anyone find how the Prodigal Son’s guns don’t make much sense? His Drilling marked with “1869” seems kinda weird

[granite shard]

confirmed event title

https://x.com/HuntShowdown/status/1842233229606076819

Hunt: Showdown (@HuntShowdown) on X

Shotguns have always been the go-to weapon for close range, but with limited shots they can often leave a Hunter wanting more.

To solve this, a few of the more crafty Hunters out there decided to reinforce the stock of their Rival 78s, making them pack even more of a

Twitter · Oct 4, 2024, 4:00 PM

[noble scarab]

It just got a trauma version tho??

That’s gotta be for the hand cannon version

[granite shard]

Yeah

100%

I feel like it’s weird overlap and I’d rather see like the terminus get a mace

But nice confirmation of the event

[noble scarab]

That terminus skin that has a bear trap stuck on it would make a good mace

[real dove]

100% read that as "A stick with a bear trap on it would be a good mace"

which

it would

but in my head pictured someone running around with a long wooden pole with a bear trap at the end

[spiral mica]

Rival is getting all the blunt

[lucid anvil]

XD

[noble scarab]

New bat skin

[real dove]

new spear variation, cant throw it but you can poke people

[rare dirge]

You think this is gonna be like an event event? Or like a seasonal event?

Like by event event I mean with a battle pass and stuff

[granite shard]

event event

I think at this point we should expect to be having battle pass events running pretty much all the time-- they've expressed that desire in the past and now that we've made this shift to the new engine/relaunch of the game we'll probably see that happening

[rare dirge]

Yeah I guess that makes sense

I wasn’t personally expecting one so soon after this one

[granite shard]

ofc this is just speculation on my part but it's looking likely based on prior comments and new weapons w event name already being teased lol

[rare dirge]

I kinda like giving them the downtime though because it gives them more time to get better content to us (at least that’s why I personally like the downtime)

[clear glacier]

That does strike me as weird actually I don't think the Terminus has any notable melee variants

though I don't use the weapon too often so I'm unsure

[granite shard]

yeah I believe it only has the base gun and then a handcannon

[rare dirge]

Yeah I don’t think the terminus has any melee variants

[clear glacier]

Auto 5 and Terminus are the 2 sgs that have basically no variants afaik

though the auto5 definitely doesn't need one

It'd be nice to get a terminus mace or trauma

[granite shard]

the slate has a single variant as well

[clear glacier]

It's pretty difficult for the slate to have any variants in my view

[granite shard]

(it is a melee variant so the clown & cringe and terminus are the only shotguns w/o a melee variant)

[clear glacier]

I don't think you can just shorten its tube outright either

[granite shard]

yeah I'm not really a gun person so idk, but I think it would be cool to see them get creative

I think rn w how strong the terminus is w the shotgun buffs and levering, a slate variant would be my most desired

[clear glacier]

yea

you think they're gonna keep the funny golden cash registers for the next event lmao

[spiral mica]

What about throwable bear traps like that one scene from PREY

https://youtu.be/zivSHcXsKOU?si=MmE2Kj3YnDM1J1sf

[clear glacier]

Dear LORD NOT THE THROWABLES

[tired spear]

howso?

because Hunt's weaponry development timeline is kinda all over the place, one could assume that the drilling express, being a german gun, would already have adopted metallic cartridges and standard 12 gauge shells, whereas american guns have fallen behind significantly

and thus 1869 is not entirely unreasonable

unless of course you're mentioning the fact that he's supposed to be 17-20yo

[worthy abyss]

That too

Mfer was serving as an embryo

[tired spear]

yeah kek

but yeah that's the weird part right

cuz when did he serve again?

civil war?

[worthy abyss]

Post Civil War

His mom was a spy during the Civil-War though

[tired spear]

nonetheless, it makes no sense that he'd have access to a drilling-express when the average joe was fitted with at best a Henry rifle, or a rolling block, or a springfield 1847 musketoon

[worthy abyss]

*Springfield 1866

[tired spear]

the 1866 wasn't a civil war gun tho

[worthy abyss]

Post Civil War gun

[tired spear]

i mean yes

but still

[worthy abyss]

I think I confused you

[tired spear]

makes no sense that a drilling express, which is an exotic german hunting rifle, would ever find its way to the american military

[worthy abyss]

And for that, you must die

[tired spear]

especially as early as 1869

[worthy abyss]

Same with the Scottfield

[tired spear]

mhm

[green pollen]

I think a swift version or whatever it’s called with slam fire would be cool

[clear glacier]

scary.... wouldnt that just be a better auto5

[tired spear]

Not really no, the auto-5 is really scary because you can actually aim while firing

Whereas aiming while slamfirimg is possible but it'd throw your aim everywhere

And it's still a tad slower

[worthy abyss]

Slate Swift variant? So you just want a John Wick reload?

[noble scarab]

I’d love to see a Stephen king gunslinger reload tbh

[spiral mica]

The slate ripose has heat shielding on it like you'd be able to slamfire it

It's also possible to slamfire the marathon

Not sure about the Specter though

The only guns that don't fit the time period are the cyclone and avtomat but all the others appear to be fine

The drilling is inaccurate because it's not a double barrel shotgun with a rifle underbarrel and there never was a Lemat Mk. 2. That being said hunt showdown fits into the alternative history genre like call of duty or battlefield games so fantasy guns based on historical design aren't really any issue to me.

[real cedar]

An actual honest to god new handwritten note? In Mammon's Gulch of all places?
I'm surprised nobody posted it yet, the top tower of La Plata Mine is a popular spot. It looks like a paper passed back and forth between father and son during the dad's work shift deep in the mines.

Son: Is it cold in the cave?
Father: No son, thanks to your prayers its nice and warm
Son: I'm happ happy all of your friends are with you I miss my friends
Father: I'll be out soon and we'll go make some new friends I promise
Son: No! I forgave them all for biting me, Fat Father!

[real dove]

I forgave them all for biting me*

nice

maybe theres more we have missed then

[real cedar]

If it's anything like the DeSalle letters, there could be more paper in the mine somewhere. Plenty of unpopular tunnels that get overlooked.

[real dove]

ja

[spiral mica]

Actually found this the other day and meant to post it but my screenshot is way more blurry

[clear glacier]

oh thats fair

[spiral mica]

Not sure what happened to them but maybe the son turned since he mentioned getting bitten? Or maybe he's referring to the abundance of rats found in mammon's gulch. You can even find some rats in a loose pile off to side of La Plata mine.

I'm also confused why the son drew lines through words he was spelling correctly, like he started writing them and just decided to stop and rewrite the same word.

[real cedar]

Improper handwriting would be my guess, also to illustrate more of a difference between the two voices

[spiral mica]

Perhaps, it's also odd that this note is clearer than most of the other ones found in mammon's gulch and it's all the way up in a tower at La Plata. Just seems like a really odd place for such a thing.

When I first encountered it I really couldn't get a good look at it since that spot isn't ideal during fights and I was in fact in the middle of one. Thanks for the clearer screenshot.

[real cedar]

We were also technically in the middle of a fight but they were far off and not pushing at all. I even read the whole thing aloud to my randoms

[spiral mica]

Ha! What'd they think?

Are they as focused with the game's lore as you are?

[real cedar]

One figured a wendigo got the son for sure

[spiral mica]

How'd they figure that?

I figure maybe grunts or something got him because of the mention of biting

Although I have heard even more talk of Wendigo since the new map has been out

[real cedar]

The one guy has a big hope that a wendigo will get added eventually, must be a big Until Dawn fan.
I tried to let him down easy, explain why exactly it'll never happen, but his hopes are ironclad

[spiral mica]

Until Dawn is cool and honestly a more accurate representation for the actual Wendigo but I also really like the eldritch deer aesthetic for the Wendigo. An otherworldly creature with massive antlers and an exposed skull.

I would like more bosses like Rotjaw, simplistic animalistic design with a supernatural twist. I was a little bummed out when we got Hellborn instead of some kind of zombified grunt bear or mountain lion which would fit in perfectly with Mammon's gulch.

[real dove]

I would love horror deer

But I know folks would just call it a Wendigo

[spiral mica]

Probably better to call it a skinwalker or skinchanger or something instead of a Wendigo honestly

[real dove]

Anything close to a Wendigo is gonna get called that tho

[spiral mica]

Wendigo are basically just people who've given into cannibalism for the winter. Nothing really supernatural about them but the legends have been exaggerated over the years.

[real dove]

They belong to the Tribes

And as such imo don't belong in the game

I'd be happy with a fucked up we

werewolf

Since it's just a general monster now

And could be fitted to the idea of human at the base

That all but RJ of the bosses have

[spiral mica]

Something with Lycanthropy could be cool yeah

[real dove]

And I'd argue RJ is in some form fused with enola, since she has displayed traits in lore that aren't normal for a gator

Also a witch

(lynch)

[spiral mica]

From my understanding Enola has a strong connection with Rotjaw but Rotjaw herself is something entirely different and unique. Now it's just another part of the sculptors machinations.

I remember the devs saying somewhere that only three wild targets were planned and so far we have two. I know there's probably an endless potential for numerous wild targets but I don't exactly want the game to be flooded with them or else they may not feel as special or unique when you come across them.

[real dove]

Moreso the gator has a dog akin connection with the child

She's described to act as if she misses enola

[lucid anvil]

Do Desalle letters relate to other map locations?

[green pollen]

I’m not at my computer rn but can anyone confirm if the skins they added that have plants strapped to them are corn husks or not?

[real cedar]

Just Lower Desalle and Pearl Plantation, where they're found

[lucid anvil]

Ah, gotcha I see

[warm quartz]

Still waiting on that Hunt dating simulator

[spiral mica]

For real? I get dead by daylight got one but probably not for hunt

[undone jasper]

Man, a Hunt TTRPG would be so dope

[real cedar]

Scorched Earth Epilogue. It seems the journal Marshall Brewer stole from Preston and handed off to Hardin is the next important plot point.

[mint wind]

Preston you fucking idiot.

[warm quartz]

Felis smut repository

Hardin is in hot water now as every hunter rushes to reclaim it

[chrome tree]

I've heard someone over here have a huge compiled document of hunt's lore. Does someone still have a link for that?

[real cedar]

Yup, it's in the pinned comments in this channel.

[chrome tree]

Thanks!

[granite shard]

new survey-- has some questions abt the event lore https://x.com/HuntShowdown/status/1843305346963587300

Hunt: Showdown (@HuntShowdown) on X

Scorched Earth has come to an end!

With it comes another feedback survey. This is your chance to let us know your thoughts on the event including what you liked and, didn't like.

So click the following link and let us know:
https://t.co/z8rrCsmHlF

Twitter · Oct 7, 2024, 3:00 PM

(how much you read, if you liked it, etc) probably worth putting something positive down since the future's in a really tenuous position

[spiral sluice]

I always forget to check the lore then the event is over and they remove it from the game. Wish they'd just put the audio logs in a menu or make me able to listen to them while playing

From what I gathered some oil baron dug too deep and it awakened Hellborn but beyond that not really sure what happens

[frigid violet]

Yeah, the lore is way too flimsy. You don't get to read the rest if you didn't unlock it all during the event. You don't get to follow past lore. It's all very low-impact.

And we also lost all the lore from the three books before the relaunch, it's only compiled externally.

[real dove]

I mean, we have it and I'm sure they have it

[fast rover]

Lore me up

Put the lore in my brain

[granite shard]

Imagine a feature in the game

Where lore is available to unlock and be read whenever

We can call it the library

[spiral sluice]

I'd like that. I think they could also add some lore trinkets to find that explain the story of each compound and what happened there

[real dove]

I just want

The Researcher's Desk

and it's got the lorebooks and event books and shit

could even get little decorations for the events so it looks like RN is reading about the current event

odk

idk

[granite shard]

It’s just so frustrated they wholesale removed the library instead of tinkering w it

Like it had low engagement rates bc it never fully advertised to the player just what it was doing or how best to go about it if you wanted to read specific storylines

[real dove]

not to mention good luck tracking the story you are reading

across all the masteries n such

[granite shard]

Yeah

[burnt wolf]

CRAP I FORGOT TO READ THE LAST FEW ENTRIES. Is there a way I can catch up??

[frigid violet]

Check the pinned google doc

[real dove]

it's also on youtube

[burnt wolf]

Oh wow, I didn't think of that. Awesome. This dude mr wendigo recorded playing each entry. Thank you!

[real dove]

There's a few of them! You're welcome!

Usually someone posts the BP lore within a week, so can usually be found pretty quick

[fast rover]

@real dove is there a particular youtube lore guy, me and my friend want to know more

[real dove]

I'm sure there are plenty of smaller ones, but the main one I know is HazmatFTW.

[fast rover]

Maybe a little pinned comment in here could be cool for the google doc if there is one

[real dove]

I tend to read the lore over watching stuff 😅

[fast rover]

[real dove]

We dont do promotion, so I can't pin any specific lore youtuber

[fast rover]

[granite shard]

one of these days I'll stop being lazy and make my lore videos

put my insanity to use

[real dove]

doit

[granite shard]

in the compendium, do we have links to the event lore videos?

bc that might be a good addition for rai to make

the voice acting gives so much life to them

[burnt wolf]

wait so how did preston leave colorado on the train if he previously had directed brewer to blow up the trestle bridge

[clear glacier]

hes preston

[burnt wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-sounds-good-jim-halpert-the-office-good-point-gif-24321852

[real cedar]

Yeah, there's a small link to the full audio log at the beginning of each event story, then more specific links in the earlier Devil's Moon story where only some chapters had audio.

[granite shard]

Yay!

[copper mango]

My account is banned, I've played for 1000 hours, own half the dlc, and have a kd of only 1, but why is my complaint never addressed?

[fallow gorge]

Mods, get him out of lore chat

[regal wolf]

what did you get banned for weirdo?

[empty basin]

Maybe they can write the death cheat exploit into the lore with a similar feel to the breaking of the rule of 2 stuff

[real cedar]

Man I hope not, some stuff oughta stay gameified and otherwise incredibly rare in lore if acknowledged at all

So far, anyone in the lore who cheats death is worse off for it, horribly so.

You can hardly call them human, the ones who come back.

[burnt wolf]

It's kinda hard to track but I think I already know the answer. Preston is not a playable/visible character in the game, correct? Just like Lynch, Finch, Huff, and Chary?

There's so many legendaries now and their descriptions aren't visible anymore, so it's kinda hard to figure it out. Doesn't seem like the Hunt wiki legendary hunters is updated anymore either

[granite shard]

yeah you're correct

the wiki is currently being moved to a new site

with plans to have more updated and easier to track pages

[burnt wolf]

Damn, for a while I thought the Statesman was Preston, but I kinda put it together the other night that he isn't. So what are they alluding to in regards to his rich benefactors?

[granite shard]

it's not stated outright, but it's very heavily implied that preston and his crew are the rich benefactors

they had been buying up the bounty tokens and preston knows where even more things are

[burnt wolf]

Man I love this lore so much... just wish it was more coherently available. Thank you for the explanations!

[empty basin]

Hopefully some good lore will help with the new weapon...

[burnt wolf]

I will keep my opinions about that thing to myself and continue to focus on the lore

[empty basin]

Ok I will follow your example

[granite shard]

yeah same, it really sucks how it's all been removed from the game :/

[empty basin]

I mostly meant some good lore behind something can turn it acceptable, from wtf to oh ok I get it lol

[spiral mica]

Some AHA technician really took one look at a bomb lance and said "does it come in compact?"

[real cedar]

It's much closer to the real bomb lance, though still a wacky spring-loaded launcher rather than a simple gunpowder and percussion cap hand cannon

[spiral mica]

True and there's actually lots of harpoon gun designs that were around during the time

[clear glacier]

what in the martini henry

[burnt wolf]

it's a Greener rifle. they used Martinis as a base

they were made famous because they used one in Jaws but they didn't come out until the 60s so it would be far too anachronistic for even Hunt. sad to say the bomb lance unfortunately makes more sense in the game

[spiral mica]

Shark boss when?

[real dove]

hunt becomes raft

[spiral mica]

Or Subnautica

[green pollen]

I got better: alligator gar

Also rotjaw should be able to leave the water and go on land, and her current mechanics should be for a different more aquatic boss

[real cedar]

She's too big to go on land, the pathfinding and animations would get very awkward with all the trees and slopes around

[real dove]

be cool if she could launch out of the water onto shore some

and then slides back in

since rn she only really triggers in the water

[regal wolf]

has anyone gone thru and cataloged these notes in game? Some are hard to read.

[real dove]

@real cedar probably has but worth asking

[real cedar]

Yes, I've done what I can to read them with a spyglass and documented them in the Compendium in the pinned comments of this channel, under In-Game Lore -> Transcribed Letters. Some words are guesswork, especially in that second image.
Most are half-completed and don't really relate to anything lore-specific, except that third image which is part of a larger story that takes place in DeSalle. It shouldn't have shown up in Mammon's gulch at all, I hope they fix that down the line.

Anyway, is the guy on the Twitch Drops announcement new? Or is that Union Suit?

[real dove]

Onion

Hat beard and the shoulder thingy are the same

[amber harbor]

Is he blind or is the white eye just a stylistic choice?

[real cedar]

He might be, it's hard to tell cause there's so few closeups of him online. This image also makes him look blinded in that eye.

[rare dirge]

Been wanting him so bad I might actually have a shot these twitch drops

That’s only if they gonna be giving a 100% chance for him if you own every hunter though

[granite shard]

I think bad hand was, so I wouldn't see a reason why he wouldn't be

[rare dirge]

That’s what I’m thinking

[granite shard]

I feel like this means we might be getting a new dark tribute hunter w next week's event

[rare dirge]

…

[granite shard]

the monkey's paw is gonna curl in after all of my moaning abt the lack of new female hunters and it's gonna be a woman

[rare dirge]

As much as that would be cool I don’t think I could handle chasing another tribute hunter

[granite shard]

I don't really want more DT hunters, I'm only fine w BH and US bc I don't like them

I don't want there to be a dark tribute hunter I actually like bc then I'll never get them and be sad 😂

[rare dirge]

I pulled the bad hand about a year ago and they put the union suit in like just a few months later

I was free and then after not adding a new tribute hunter for years they drop some random one

Was tragic

[granite shard]

lmao rip

I'm hoping there's not a new one, but I feel like since both of the DT hunters will be available in the drops we'll get a new one

tbh I'd just rather we get a new twitch drop hunter than anything

[rare dirge]

It’s been a while since we got a new one

[granite shard]

yeah, umpire's bane last halloween

[rare dirge]

Yeah I hope the twitch drop after this one they add a new twitch drop hunter

[granite shard]

my kingdom for a woman

doing the stats the other day was really

[rare dirge]

I like the passion you have for it I agree that it should 110% be another women for the next new twitch drop hunter

Lulu is still one of my favourite hunters personally

[granite shard]

yeah her design is great

I think like I'm so loud abt it bc prior to last june, the split between genders was really even

and then the ratio just fell way off

for no clear reason?

not really a lore discussion thing ig but

[noble scarab]

With how they do hunters now, ie no more 2 in 1 hunters, each variant is a separate thing, do we technically have 3 dark tribute hunters? 2 of union suit and 1 bad hand

Also hope they reroll the set of legendaries you can get for having all the drops

[spiral mica]

If she launched out of the water like this that'd be so cool

[granite shard]

has anyone gotten union suit since the update? I feel like you'd just get the two variants at once but who knows

[noble scarab]

I can’t recall seeing anyone get him, and I know I haven’t gotten him

I don’t think I’ve ever even seen him in game

[spiral mica]

found this picture on the first floor of the hotel in miner's folly, does anyone know if this is new or reused asset?

[warm quartz]

Reused assest and concept art

[rare dirge]

You get both at once

And there was people getting union suit the day he came out

[granite shard]

Sick, yeah I figured people have gotten him but wasn’t sure if anyone in the chat had lol

[warm quartz]

Well, there were people who got spanish guy even BEFORE he came out, so

[rare dirge]

Ah yeah i only know of spooky having him very few hunt discord people have the union suit

[granite shard]

Yeah he’s still pretty uncommon, tho that’ll change in a bit lol

[rare dirge]

Actually can’t remember if it was spooky I know it was one of the mods got him and showed him to me

[spiral mica]

I wonder how old this concept art is, it reminds me of what I'd assume the land of the dead would look like if we could get a look inside the graven path

[real cedar]

I believe it's from 2017 or so, pre-release concept art kinda stuff. I've seen it as an in-game painting since forever.

couldn't find it in a quick search on artstation though

[sinful warren]

@granite shard @rare dirge You only get one style due to the current system

I had to contact CS so they could give me the other style

[rare dirge]

Wait fr???

Shoot that sucks

[sinful warren]

Yeah, same happened to snowy and King

Idk if they may fix it next update tho

[rare dirge]

Wonder if the same will happen with these twitch drops

[sinful warren]

Prob in one of those fixes, idk

[sinful warren]

Most likely will if they don't fix it.

[rare dirge]

Damn

I’m still so sad I haven’t gotten him from tribute I’m gonna have to get him from these drops instead

[sinful warren]

I will get money instead

[rare dirge]

You guys did get the other style after contacting though right?

[rare dirge]

You even gonna watch these drops then?

[sinful warren]

I do

I get the Boxes and money, I don't mind

I just let the stream in the background

[rare dirge]

Fair enough

[magic basin]

My niece asked if the Sculptor was from Florida. Is it lore accurate to tell her yes?

[spiral mica]

Hard to believe I'm now just noticing it

[lean willow]

I love diving deep into lore and backstory when I can.
I'm wondering where I should start with researching Hunt's Lore. Any pointers?

[granite shard]

check out the link in this pinned message! #lore-discussion message

it's a whole google doc that has most of the lore in it

the link in the post above it also has most of the rest of the lore

[lean willow]

Thank you

[granite shard]

of course!

hopefully they bring this stuff back into the game at some point

[lean willow]

I hope so. I was devastated when I saw that it was all gone 😭

[granite shard]

Same

It’s one of my absolute favorite parts of the game and part of why hunt has had such a strong impact on me

[misty kindle]

plastic bottle? is that accurate and much more important: IST DA PFAND DRAUF???

[orchid tangle]

not commercially but plastic was around yeah

[granite shard]

The plastic bottle here is likely more one of the Easter eggs than meant to be like “a normal hunter was drinking from a readily available plastic bottle” sort of thing

[short patio]

Its more like an easteregg

[hoary moat]

Galalith, sometimes called milk stone is a plastic material existing since the 1890's, PVC existed, and so did Parkesine which is a plant based plastic. Bakelite wasn't invented until 1907 but formaldehyde polymerization was possible with several different materials including many resin chains.

It does look like a modern bottle though and there is a non-zero chance its from some asset they forgot to remove.

[real cedar]

It definitely doesn't feel like an easter egg to me since it's a low quality texture just laying on the floor in a high traffic area

[green pollen]

Arrowhead spring water before 2 map re works?

Bazinga!

[tired spear]

i never actually realized that Felis was wearing the same clothing as Clint Eastwood, heck, even her cape is also a poncho

[tired spear]

or it's a wink at Game of Thrones.

[granite shard]

omg you're so right

[warm quartz]

What

Oh yeah, most hunters are wearing hats

It is team fortress 2 reference

[real cedar]

So a pumpkin guy has to fight a wolf girl, a kendo samurai, and a fortune teller?
For once I hope this event doesn't have lore cause man that's just throwing shit at the wall. Is it like a Tiny Tina situation where Redneck's Daughter is telling a goofy halloween story to her fellow Hunters?

[noble scarab]

The hunters look nice at least

Can’t be much more nonsensical than the moon trilogy

[real cedar]

Moon Trilogy felt coherent in the sense of hunter additions cause it had Kevin and Chary as the throughline to make a bunch of wildy different hunters care about the main plot and take sides.
Having wildly different hunters have some kind of personal blood fued with Jack O'Hunter is strange, idk how they're going to explain it. Did they all come to the hunt, randomly become buddies, then face the Pumpking before?

[green pollen]

Noticed a Winfield 1876 marksman, the bomb launcher, a whipper (auto 5 shorty)

[real cedar]

I wonder who this storyteller guy is? The text on his forehead says CAPTAINELVY I think

[orchid tangle]

I feel like I'm gonna have a really unpopular opinion with this event, and it might just be because I inflate my standards too high because halloween is my favorite day of the year. But this event feels kinda random...

the pumpkin guy looks like butchers cleaver to me with a pumpkin now instead of a pig mask, the wolf girl is just luna wolf but now with an actual wolf hood, the kendo guy is cool but I feel like we've had the same hunter with a caged mask in recent times. The weapons other than bomblance feel off and that new trap feel off. crown and king shorty, centennial shorty marksman(?), idk I feel like they had all ahnds on deck for the engine for the most part there wasn't much planning time for this one, which is fine.

All I hope is the gun skins relate to the event, then it's all good in my books

[real cedar]

I'm with you 100%. Judging from this and Scorched Earth, the skins are afterthoughts atm, stuff that could've been DLCs or random BB store additions at another time but currently they don't have a strong idea for story-related hunters so they get dropped in to fill the gaps.

[orchid tangle]

just pray he isn't a one and done deal

can totally see him being the "crazy old man" you see warning people at the beginning of slasher movies and he's just to fit that stereotype... or maybe not, a lot of detail into a character for a hunt trailer for that

[real cedar]

It might be he's just a floating head texture, probably reused for the eye part

The forehead bit is really perplexing, a quick search only turns up a WW2 guy nicknamed Captain Elvy who tattoo'd his whole body

[orchid tangle]

well, since I'm still busy with uni I'm probably buying through this pass again, I'll try to get the chapters up day 1. Maybe this guy has some importance there, though last event the chapters felt more like just entries for hellborn, so idk how they'll go about it this time

[granite shard]

tbh I think like for last event it wasn't that they had ideas for story related hunters and more that there seems to be a more external pressure for other stuff

(external being like suits)

[spiral mica]

I wish there was alternative versions of Vaquero, Concubine and Bridgewater where they wore their hats

instead they just hang off the back of their necks

[real cedar]

I wonder if the bit where wolfgirl takes off the hood is part of the game or just for the trailer?

I'd assume the latter

[tiny plover]

I was talking to my brother about it. Im willing to bet its more Prophecy Mumbo Jumbo for the dialog. Its probably more likely that they will stand in his way by circumstance, but it was "foretold" or whatever.

That and like, Im assuming the lore for the event is very One-Shot esque? Not super important to moving anything forward

Its da shpooky holloween event, not the next chapter in the main story. Doesnt really Need to be cohesive

If they DO try to shoehorn the main story in, in anything outside of hints and foreshadowing or whatever, Id be surprised

[real cedar]

Yeah, if it's just a one-shot then I guess it can do whatever, and maybe it reveals something interesting about the world as it goes along. Previous halloweens never had story after all, Tide of Corruption just happened to overlap with halloween by timing.

[tiny plover]

Mm. Never had a big event for Headsman or the_ Gardening Ghost _

That being said, She did become like, a real character later down the line. I think she was babysitting the Navigator while he was a plank of wood?

Granted, I think its established all of the hunters are kinda sorta real. Gets a bit weird with people like Bad Hand and Revenant though.

Or like, allegedly maybe canonically dead hunters

Or Santa Claus.

[noble scarab]

It’d be a stretch but the lore could revolve around things happening in the gulch as normal, with mentions of the random spooky^tm hunters

[real cedar]

If it wasn't for the narration I'd assume they'd just ignore the hunters again just like Shroud and Shade weren't part of Scorched Earth

[noble scarab]

Or maybe it’s another dime novel

[warm quartz]

This guy has a pumpkin on his head

I think it's safe to assume it's an one-off

From other skins, I think only fortune teller is interesting

That New Orleans energy

I don't care for weeabo and yet another wolf girl

[real cedar]

The wolf girl I think is going to be the most popular, it just looks like a nice skin that people would use year round

[spiral mica]

It might be her hunter animation

The guy with the Kendo mask looks really cool

Glad to see more Japanese hunters

[tiny plover]

Im a fan of the variations we're getting on Harvest so far. The Shirtless ropes look is sick

[spiral mica]

I was wondering if The Ronin or Miko would be featured in any event so maybe this one is it

[tiny plover]

Cant wait to see his big pumkin head become my favorite headshot magnet

[spiral mica]

Pumpkin guy looks a little goofy was assuming he's some kind of demented hunter it's not out of place

[tiny plover]

Im not in love with his Open Mouth mask. Little Batman esque for me

but his final versions with the full pumkin clean that up, so eh

[spiral mica]

I'm sure he'll be fine

I was skeptical about hunters themed after the bosses but turns out it was no big deal

He likely won't be a problem hunter like Cain or Headsman was I can tell you that much

[noble scarab]

Give us our spider hunter crytek

[real dove]

Pumpkin guy is my least fav, wolf girl obv my fav

praying we get a lance skin

also lore

[noble scarab]

Tho I guess we have enough for a trio with the scrappers + cowl/butchers cleaver

[real dove]

kinda feels like they are setting up some kind of story?

[granite shard]

kendo guy is my personal least fave

I think he just looks kinda dull

[real dove]

yeah, but dull beats goofy imo

[granite shard]

like he could just be an irl kendo guy, nothing abt his look sets him in the hunt world

[real dove]

pumpkin just looks gooft

[real cedar]

Yeah, they could've gone much harder with a samurai character

[granite shard]

pumpkin looks goofy but he's at least like visibly part of the hunt world

[tiny plover]

Not quite granny bones goofy but

[real dove]

granny is great

[tiny plover]

Similar vibes. Diffrent ends of the spectrum though, I think lol

[real dove]

shes not goofy

he gives me killbuyer vibes

and the whippy guy

with the bag on his head

[tiny plover]

You can not tell you me you would take Granny with a Baseball bat seriously as she clubs your head in.
Lovely, lovely woman, but vaguely out of place. Doesnt stop her though.

[real dove]

i take her more serious than toilet seat man

[tiny plover]

Ok fair.

[real dove]

but its just a matter of opinion

I'm guessing we'll get demented pact

[tiny plover]

It is the correct one but thats besides the point lol

[real dove]

if pumpkin isnt demented i'll be shocked

[tiny plover]

Doesnt scream Lawbringer to you? /s

[real dove]

you right, mine is the correct opinion

[zenith perch]

Maybe now I can regularly run an Auto-5

[real dove]

lol

Maybe

Maybe he's hardins new boyfren

lol

Dunno the other 2 tho

[tiny plover]

Haha, just kidding... Unless

[real dove]

3

sorr

seer

kendo

and wolf

maybe primal/frontiers?

[noble scarab]

They said new pacts

[real dove]

oh, do they?

missed that

herg

[tiny plover]

Im really willing to be they're just 3 bozos who will stumble into his path one way or another, but stranger parties have banded together in the hunt I guess

[real dove]

I hope they are in the story

since

[zenith perch]

CRYTEK GIVE ME A SPIDER THEMED HUNTER AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[real dove]

the trailer made it sound as such

[tiny plover]

Unless Harvest's ultimate goal is like... Godhood type shit. Lynch-esque bullshittery

[noble scarab]

One of the news things said new pact traits, I assumed that meant new pacts, but who knows

[real dove]

ah

we've gotten a slew of new pact traits so who knows

I still think demented will be back

[noble scarab]

I could see death pact coming back

Maybe grounded

[tiny plover]

Maybe some Warrior Pact with the Kendo dude? Grounded is a good fit

[real dove]

death, under seer?

would be cool

[zenith perch]

New traits flr demented

For

[noble scarab]

Death/grounded; demented;new third pact maybe?, maybe primal?

[tiny plover]

No Speedboost

Unless they give it to primal. Or Grounded for that matter. Honestly any of them could have it.

Lawbringer and Death are the only bad fits for the speedboost

[real dove]

I doubt we will get primal tbh

thinking about it

weve had primal and primal jr the last 2 events

[zenith perch]

CRYTEK GIVE ME BERSERKER AS A BUYABLE TRAIT AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[tiny plover]

I meeaann we got Trailblazer which is like.. primal lite

[noble scarab]

Berserker would make a good scarce trait

No real need for it to be a burn

[real dove]

Grounded would make sense

but idk

[tiny plover]

Dude Im still waiting for them to Buck Up and make Remedy a buyable trait at like 15 points. For like 2 years now, ever since they first introduced it

[real dove]

hard to tell

[tiny plover]

But they're SCARED

[noble scarab]

There’s still a lot of hunters that we need to have some lore from

Lots of good event pov options

[granite shard]

I want the phantom So Bad

[noble scarab]

Or maybe written lore if we get that back

Ever

[granite shard]

at least there's been a sharp increase of people being like "uh where's the lore"

[noble scarab]

Perchta, redneck (and or his daughter) redshirt, Scaramuccia, bridgewater, any of the twitch hunters, teche wraith, etc

I’d love a chapter from the infected, mans half zombie, he’d make a great death pact member

[faint nimbus]

This event is very confusing for me skin wise, the main pumpkin hunter has seemingly 3 versions likely different time periods but there’s 3 other hunters at least one of which also has a seperate version unless the unmasked wolf girl was just for the trailer

[willow parcel]

in the trailer the narator have "captrinelvy" as a tatoo, any ideas what it refer to ?

[real cedar]

Far as I can tell, this is the only thing Captain Elvy refers to. The old guy also has 'Cap' on his cheek.

[green pollen]

I enjoy the idea of the bomb launcher but the two shortys seem a little out of place. I’d much rather a fully different version of a weapon (like a Romero compared to the Romero Alamo) or a new gun entirely

[willow parcel]

i'm not sur of the L letter maybe an other name + the military grunt make me think of something army related. but on that end i'm confused as far as i remer 1 star in pre 1900 US army is the major rank no ?

[warm quartz]

People are using Lulu all year round, the gullible sheep are easily lead astray

[real dove]

What do you mean?

[warm quartz]

That people will play the prettiest girl they see

They are blind to the sheer perfection of Hardin's mustache

[thick nova]

quite random question but in game, the lights that are electric are not like the ones we have today right? anyone knows what are these made? they look like a bit 'radioactive'

[granite shard]

Edison lightbulbs became available towards the beginning of the 1880s I believe

So they’re probs them

[thick nova]

let's see, thanks!!

[spiral mica]

my running theory right now is that wolf girl is either primal, grounded or wilderness although I'm leaning more towards grounded because they've always put Luna wolf and Dire wolf in with grounded pact and then you've got Lonely howl which is confirmed primal. There's also the possibility that this new wolf girl hunter is completely isolated from the current wolf hunters.

I almost wanna say she could be Primal because the trailer mentions her having the soul of a wolf, seems pretty primalish to me like Gar being referred to as a literal "fish lady"

I hope that Seer that claims to know Harvest's secret name is Lunar pact because it's a pact that deserves to return

It's actually the only pact from Devil's moon that hasn't returned yet

[noble scarab]

The iron mask guy was mentioned as being freed by felis, so possibly primal himself, plus primal was one of the pacts that left for Colorado

[spiral mica]

Yep although Grotesque feels more like Demented to me

[real dove]

Agreed

[noble scarab]

By all accounts he probably is demented, just odd that they had felis free him rather than any other demented hunter

Tho felis is good at un-dementing hunters, based on centipede

[real dove]

She's got a thing for rescuing hunters

Yeah

[noble scarab]

Which does anyone ever run centipede? Can’t say I’ve seen her any

[faint nimbus]

I run centipede simply for the fact that she has the most themed weapon skins out of any hunter

[zenith perch]

what hunters do you think would use Lynch's weapons? or what pact would have access to them?

[faint nimbus]

imo hunters like the witch hunter and more occulty hunters fit the vibe. I also use the knife with silver spur I could see death pact using Lynch’s stuff

[granite shard]

I think the death pact is more unlikely to use her stuff bc they’re already asking how fucked they are w her inoculation in their veins

I think Hardin is more likely bc he doesn’t give a shit

[clear glacier]

will the darkbombs be a new part of our kit 👀

[zenith perch]

yall think demented would use her stuff?

[noble scarab]

I think the demented wouldn’t know who she is

They’d take her guns, lick them up and down and think nothing of it

[spiral mica]

Felis has a lot of connections to hunters

Felis gifted a Berthier to Daughter of decay

She gifted(?) dusters to Reptilian

She has a supposed connection to Doctor John and by extension Weird Sister
She rescued and recruited Centipede in Desolation's wake and is aligned with Lonely howl (and Iron bark before he betrays.)

[granite shard]

She’s the bone doctor’s adopted daughter essentially, or at least that’s what some stuff had implied

[spiral mica]

Oh now I haven't heard that before that's interesting

Doctor John would probably be a cool dad

Doctor John needs to be a narrator for an event at some point

And he should be voiced by Keith David

https://tenor.com/view/princess-and-the-frog-dr-facilier-shadow-man-disney-shake-hands-gif-17859528

[dawn marten]

anyone have a link that talks about all of the lore in the game up to the current event?

[amber harbor]

Personally I think it might be a tease for the new game mode, which might have lore along the levels of soul survivor

[amber harbor]

See Rais documents in pinned messages, they have all event lore and the old books, hunter and dlc descriptions etc

[dawn marten]

Thank you

[real cedar]

So the story seems to be that secrets about Dark Sight and the like are being uncovered thanks to Preston's information, and this new Pact of Omens is creating weird new things with it that the Wilderness Pact wants to destroy, while the Smugglers - or at least the second version of the smugglers after the first got ripped apart - just want new treasures cause they're greedy.
Omens seems like it could be a combination of Demented refugees and Night of the Hunter, suggested by Dire Divination's blurb.

[real dove]

I'm here for it

If they are loring out daeksight

That's awesome

[gray vault]

HazmatFTW’s videos are really good doubt anyone’s caught up to the event yet

Question was already answered my bad, also I was wrong anyway

[orchid tangle]

I'm finding it funny actually. I do like this basic story so far actually, and I'm excited to ready the chapters, but imagine all you know about Harvest was what was written down here, and when you see the guy it's just a buff dude with a pumpkin on his head.

[real cedar]

It's a real Diogenes moment.
"There's an avatar of Dark Sight creating new mystical contraptions? I must go to him and learn of his forbidden secrets!"

"Sup."

[noble scarab]

Wonder how many variants of him we’ll get

We saw at least 4 in the trailer

Our poor ui is gonna be so cluttered

[real cedar]

There were 4? I only saw the three versions. If it weren't for the different pumpkins on left and center I'd assume only 2 variants

[noble scarab]

Those 3 + the open face shirtless one

[real cedar]

I think it's the same guy as right, the face is just in shadow

Same scratches on the pumpkin over the left eye

best seen here

[noble scarab]

Yea I see what you mean

It’s too dark crytek, we can’t see shit

[spiral mica]

Bummed we're not getting Lunar pact but these sound great

[noble scarab]

Also I can’t imagine wearing a pumpkin, those are heavy and would rot quickly

Plus he’s probably seeing less out of that than the blind lady is

[spiral mica]

The smell is what would bother me

[noble scarab]

I am allergic to raw pumpkin, my face would burn off

[green pollen]

I love the fact we’re getting more items that are either weirdo non-steampunk machinery or corruption based item. I would love if we got more items that used stuff from the corruption, like a shotgun load or something. Even just more skins based on the corruption, like that mosin nagant made from the corrupted Cypress trees

[spiral mica]

The smell is what would bother me

[orchid tangle]

this should be the case for half the hunters hahaha

bit different now that Colorados out but man wearing all these heavy coats and masks in the bayou would suck so much

I'm pretty stubborn on my fashion, a black wool coat usually no matter the temperature, that alone in Indiana sucks, I can't imagine doing it down in the south whilst also in a constant cardio workout

[granite shard]

huge indiana reference

the people wearing leather in the bayou I think would do the worst

[faint nimbus]

Is this face supposed to be harvest in his final stage? Or is it just a cinematic flair for the trailer? It kind of reminds me of the face on the cover of drowning waters

[magic basin]

Normally I'd say something about the 1890s being considerably cooler than now, but I hail from the swampy part of Texas and I don't believe it was ever comfortable to live there.

I was hoping for a return of Infernal with all the burn changes

[granite shard]

tbh for both infernal and lunar they're really specific pacts tied to mr chary and kevin so I don't think we'll see them returning unless those two return to the narrative

[faint nimbus]

I think the same could be said about drowned pact since the tides trilogy is over

[granite shard]

yeah, agreed

[real cedar]

Hopefully we never see the Lunar pact again cause that would mean we have to pay attention to the moon shit again 😅

[faint nimbus]

No more Delphine no more mariner

If the moon pacts ever come back I want the traitors moon theme back too

[granite shard]

death isn't as tied to sofia as lunar/infernal/drowned are to their pact leaders but I'd be surprised to see it be led by anyone but sofia

[rare dirge]

Mr chary hadn’t made an appearance in a while eh?

No way we don’t see him again at some point

[real cedar]

His last appearance was pretty final imo, didn't seem like the narrative would have him return for any good reason

[magic basin]

He lives in the magic spitoon now right?

[real dove]

Lol

[real cedar]

He got sucked into the Land of the Dead and the Moon is beating him up

[real dove]

He was getting beat up by the moon

Ah Rai is faster

[rare dirge]

I’m surprised we didn’t get him as a hunter at any point

[real dove]

I still hope

We are lynch come back as a boss

[magic basin]

What's the spittoon lore?

[real dove]

And chary does a redemption arc to help deal with her

[rare dirge]

Chary’s final appearance never seemed final to me idk

[real dove]

Agreed

[rare dirge]

Just seemed like he got written out for now

[real dove]

I think he'll be back

But to be seent

He seemed like a key player and getting beat up by the moon doesn't seem like enough

[granite shard]

yeah it seemed like a "he's getting fucked over for now but will be back when we're done w the lynch arc" thing

[rare dirge]

I was just about to say it didn’t feel like a satisfying conclusion to him

[real cedar]

"No," he replied. "I'm afraid I'll never get to touch it again."```

[granite shard]

since imo he and lynch generally hold a similar narrative role

[real dove]

Eh

He was getting thanosed

[real cedar]

I think if he does make another appearance it'll be in the land of the dead, unlike Lynch who can travel with the corruption

[rare dirge]

We had the kid and the rat come back from crazier

[real dove]

The rat eap

Especially

[magic basin]

Most long running stories keep a defeated big bad in their pocket for a return at some point for dramatic purposes. Ironic or otherwise.

[granite shard]

I think chary has been in and left the land of the dead before tho?

he mentions having cut himself up and sieved himself through a rift

imo what will happen is he comes back in a different, more powerful form for his troubles

[real dove]

He got in once on accident with the fire

[rare dirge]

Well the BIG bad seems to be the sculptor but I feel like we won’t know more about it untill way later

[real dove]

I think he cut himself up to get in for the talkrock

And got back that way

[real cedar]

New Bounty Clash image. Is that a new Katana skin or just one of the old ones?

[granite shard]

I think new

god the kendo mask looks so bleh

I get that it's a look but it just doesn't give the guy any character

[orchid tangle]

we've gotten a lot of "caged" faces in recent times

my biggest annoyance was on helmsman like come on man whyyyy

[real cedar]

It really is a strange thing to go for.
We got a Ronin with callbacks to the Satsuma Rebellion, a Shrine Maiden, how do we round out the trio? Do we grab an armored samurai? a Zen priest?
Nope, a guy who likes to do Kendo.

[orchid tangle]

or I shouldn't say a lot... just... we never got them, then suddenly they became a slight trend

[granite shard]

There’s also just not like anything abt him that feels like it really sets him in the world too

He’s like the vaquero in that sense

He’s just some dude

[orchid tangle]

it's just a sport. I wanted to get into it for some time while doing fencing because I liked that so much, iirc you have to be barefoot for kendo, which it wouldn't be the first barefoot hunter ofc but I feel so bad for them each time one is released

[restive patrol]

also, Meiji Soldier? Its so strange, would've been cool to see all three aspects of Japan's history represented in a trio, but nope

[granite shard]

But don’t you love the idea of running barefoot in the swamp

[real dove]

Lol

[granite shard]

Mmmm tetanus

[real dove]

Become that dude looking for the 20foot python

[orchid tangle]

I'd quite literally prefer to be shot through the head by someones rival than step on like a frog barefoot

[real dove]

Yoinking snakes

[faint nimbus]

All the barefoot hunters have a special trait that allows their feet to take extra damage

[granite shard]

Lmao love that guy

[orchid tangle]

surprised that guys not dead yet

[real dove]

Same

[granite shard]

But man like the kendo guy’s mask is just so uninteresting

[real dove]

I do not mess with venomous snakes

I will mess with most things

But not wanting a swamp at night

[granite shard]

Like there’s zero personality to it bc it’s a stock standard kendo mask

[orchid tangle]

theres not a lot of cool dangerous wildlife where I live

[real dove]

Another mask dude for the collection

[granite shard]

He’d be better off w the mask tied to his belt with a unique face

[faint nimbus]

I just hope for lores sake the kendo guy ties in with the ronin and the shrine maiden and he’s not just another loner

[granite shard]

Bc that’s the one positive thing abt the vaquero— his face at least has character even tho his outfit is relatively uninspired

[orchid tangle]

I mean just like Rai pointed out why not like a samurai or something this is a Kendo dude, it's just a sport it's not like an actual fighting thing. mans is NOT prepared for a explosive crossbow trio

[amber harbor]

He'll come back a flying enemy since he said he'll never touch the ground again

[noble scarab]

Local man afraid of clouds

[real cedar]

Maybe if the weapon masteries ever return he'll appear in Part 3 of Alvise Seiko's story, since that never got finished.

[magic basin]

Honestly, I think it would be hilarious if Kendo guy turns out to be a weeb joke.

Like, just a white dude who's way to into his own idea of Japanese warrior stuff

[clear glacier]

an armoured samurai hunter would be something I'd run all day I love that shit

[icy brook]

The seer skin looks the most thematic and interesting of the featured three

[clear glacier]

I actually want to see like
a completely fucking anachronistic knight hunter in hunt with half gear 16th century armour

[clear glacier]

ea we havent really had a lot of arabic hunters iirc
he looks arabian but i cant be for sure

[icy brook]

It’s been too long to not have the Marie Laveau reference come back

It’s just too perfect

[clear glacier]

i need me a hunter who looks like this 🔥

[real cedar]

Knights really have no place in Hunt. I'd say Samurai as well, as much as it seems right it wouldn't fit. Both represent different ages that are past. Thematically they don't belong in the greedy, bloodthirsty industrial Hunt.

[clear glacier]

yeah that's what im saying
they're completely anachronistic but they would be really cool

[faint nimbus]

I don’t think armored hunters of any kind would fit hunt personally like the whole Ned Kelly, samurai pan armour things everyone wants just ain’t what hunters are like

[clear glacier]

i could also argue that some of the other skins r anachronistic, but they just somehow fit hunt as well

[granite shard]

A knight would be as frustrating as the Vikings are to me

[real cedar]

I was about to say the same ^

[clear glacier]

all fair all fair
'tis just my opi

I get where y'all are coming from though but it'd be nice to see some more variety

[orchid tangle]

I'll only accept knights if they have codpieces

[granite shard]

Just bc we have some anachronistic skins doesn’t mean it’s a thing they should keep doing imo

[clear glacier]

I'm mostly missing my Tier 2-3 hunters

[granite shard]

I miss the random names

[clear glacier]

those guys had a lot of character for mere unnamed grunts

[clear glacier]

YEAH

[clear glacier]

and this speaks volumes imo

i really wish they got added back because

im a little sick? of seeing the same 4 guys

[granite shard]

It’s part of why I’ve not prestiged— I still have some fun names in my roster

[clear glacier]

Holy shit. You just like me fr

[orchid tangle]

I've really wanted a berdan sharpshooter veteran. They were union soldiers with green uniforms that mainly used sparks rifles, and the accuracy requirements to even get considered is pretty damn good. If I have to get shot over 300m away I at least want it to make sense

[clear glacier]

considering the new weapon i hope we got one of these too

im very sad they removed the randomnamed t2-3 hunters and i really hope they bring em back

[icy brook]

The Maynard was an off the wall pick

[orchid tangle]

I might main it if it's the actual maynard carbine

[icy brook]

I’m thinking it will be some kind of specialized sniping rifle given it needs a cap after the cartridge reload

Unless it’s getting the MKII treatment

[restive patrol]

given they specifically mentioned a "two-stage reload", It'll likely be the percussion cap version

[icy brook]

^

Cool addition, seems like a gimmick

[lucid anvil]

New skin.

[real cedar]

Looking at it a second time, idk if it's a skin or just the shadows

[lucid anvil]

Suppose it could be, but look at the handle. Those seem like white marks to me at least.

[subtle owl]

Nonono thats def the lighting, it'd be more of a pale blue if it were white stripes, right???

[lucid anvil]

Wait…

Might not actually have a skin on it

Wrapping looks frayed.

[orchid tangle]

oh my

that'd be an insta main for me

idc how bad it'd be compared to other stuff

[icy brook]

I’m somewhat partial to the sharps sniper myself

[modest light]

so im making a hunt showdown story i got it on google docs in school

the story is about a postal service and newspaper in the bayou

pretty much shows why there are clues and boss enemies became alike

[clear glacier]

yo that sounds awesome keep us updated

[spiral mica]

I think the only time a "armored" hunter would work if it was like this

I could see something in reference to Ned Kelly working more as opposed to a ww1-esque shock trooper

Wayward helmsman is already kind of armored too

[clear glacier]

I would fucking run this guy too this shit is awesome

[placid sundial]

everyones a furry edgelord, its easy to write another "im crazy" guy as a crusader trying to fight evil

hell, we got a pumpkin head guy cause pumpkins

crusader gaming

[real cedar]

That's exactly why a knight should never happen. Every skin addition that's on the borderline widens the gap of what themes are acceptable to bend.
We got Plague Doctor so why not Headsman so why not Viking so why not Crusader so why not Conquistador so why not Aztec so why not Roman Centurion and now we're Fortnight gaming where anything can be put in if you throw a coat of Hunt occultism paint over it.
We got Cain so why not Krampus so why not Perchta so why not Santa so why not Pumpkin man so why not Stingy Jack so why not a guy that hunts the Easter Bunny.
We got Umpire's Bane so why not a Kendo guy so why not a Boxer so why not a Football player so why not a Hockey player.

I'm not even saying that most of these skins were wrong to put in. Like 2-3 'why nots' can be fine in most of these chains cause naturally you want to find new things to add but at some point you look at a skin and sigh, going "why is this in the game?".

[placid sundial]

ah i get you then. though, its too late to go back on the type of skins available. its still within a certain "theme" so best we can do is just hope they keep staying away from cartoony shit or excessive shit like old centurion or boring ass colonizers

[real cedar]

Yeah, the gate's been opened to plenty of strange things but I hope they at least try to stay within the 19th century so it feels mostly consistent with the spirit of the age

[placid sundial]

should be fine tbh, there are some cheesy ones but they havent been excessive

ah shit, we're totally gonna get a samurai eventually though

[real cedar]

It's pretty likely, yeah. At first I was all for it then I realized they've already done the best thing possible for the samurai with the Ronin, representing the death of the samurai and the end of their age rather than pretending like they lived on in full glory with proper armor and all that.

[placid sundial]

yea, it was good

[green pollen]

This is the most real thing I’ve ever seen in this channel

[upbeat kiln]

Absolutely nailed it, Rai.

[spiral mica]

He usually does

I for one do not like the viking hunters and do not want a traditional European knight wearing full plate. Leave that kind of stuff for games like For honor or Chivalry.

[granite shard]

I’m really afraid we’re gonna get one entirely because it’s one of the most requested hunters

It’s just so frustrating bc fanservice isn’t inherently a bad thing but it can quickly go too far

Imo that’s part of why lore is necessary— when they strip the vast majority of it from the game then they can start drifting further and further away from the core and just go “idk it’s cool, go for it”

[spiral mica]

I completely agree, you need a nice blend of let's do this because it's cool but also let's make it fit into the setting we've created and have it make sense.

[warm quartz]

aww, van helsing and silver spur are friends

[real cedar]

"Ooh what's that?"
"Wait wait don't tou-"

[warm quartz]

"Oh yeah they added C4 last patch"

[warm quartz]

While knight hunter would be silly, knight themed could be interesting

Being hunter is a very old profession and hunters supposedly have very long bloodlines

So it wouldn't be weird for a hunter to possess a piece of armor from his ancestor/inherited in a usual hunt way

And he can even be cowboy themed, like Ray McCall from Call of Juarez

[green pollen]

I think shmangled homemade armor like those bank robbers would be nice, and fit into the weird wacky creations like the sticky bomb or the bomb lance

But also Vikings, samurai’s, and fucking Santa is taking it a bit too far

[real dove]

samurais existed during the cowboy era

the vikings could have been done better imo

[green pollen]

I mean yeah, but I feel like they coulda been tweaked just a tad for the southern setting

[green pollen]

Def coulda been done better, just feels like they were added to have something to go with the spear. I do appreciate how they’re not wearing Viking subzero clothes tho

[spiral mica]

Yep, The Satsuma Rebellion lasted until 1877. It is also known as The Seinan War which Ronin is a veteran of.

[warm quartz]

It's crazy to imagine that cowboys, samurais and pirates existed at the same time once

[topaz light]

Pirates aren't that weird tbh, they still exist today just different ships and weapons and methods

Vikings is early middle ages, while knights is somewhat of the high middle ages many years later when most of Europe is Christianised.
Samurais and vikings are often confused about what age they belonged to.

[lucid anvil]

Yeah… that could be an interesting way to do it. Decent opportunity to flesh out what hunters were like before the AHA, too I think. Straight up knight in armour would be…. A bad idea, even if I would love it. But knight themed… maybe a gauntlet or two, the odd bit of old battered armour while still primarily retaining the cowboy aesthetic…

Could work pretty well, actually. But they’d have to be carful with it, less we end up with more Vikings

[real cedar]

I think doing it more like the Witch Hunter would be a better way to flesh out historical Hunter groups. Calling back to previous centuries in history and purpose but with marginal affects to how they dress since they're still a 19th century person. A traditional arming sword on the hip and some medieval heraldry on a cloak would do better than wearing plate greaves into the Hunt.

I wonder if there's a good way to do a tabard? 🤔

[lucid anvil]

To be fair, this is a really good point. Which is why I’m mostly against having knights in the game, even if I would absolutely love it. One of the things I always appreciated about Hunt is the internal consistency with the skins and such, which imo has been degraded by things like the Vikings. There’s a certain point where you go too far and start to fray the fabric of the setting. It’s why games like CoD are an absolute joke to me.

Rule of cool is absolutely a thing, but it can go too far. When the setting you’ve established starts to loose its identity, you damage the very thing that makes the product attractive in the first place, imo

[lucid anvil]

Agreed, honestly. If they did have armour it would have to be very minor. The idea of a descendant of a noble house retaining the history of their family into the modern day fits better than just a full on knight anyway.

Thematically works better too. Sorta a solemnness to it. Last of their kind, the fading of the light and such.

[subtle owl]

The whimsical skins always take me out of the awesome handcrafted lore ^^;, I hope they add John Wick next /j

[acoustic whale]

Jack black hunter too pls

[real cedar]

"I... am Mr. Chary"

[green pollen]

Jack black hunter custom voice lines by jack black himself

Of him just grunting and screaming

[spiral mica]

Awkwafina as a talking stalker beetle

[rugged harbor]

New hunter voiced by Chris Pratt

[inner dust]

Question: Is there an "Open Source" Lore wiki or so? A friend of mine really loves the Hunt vibes but wouldn't touch this sort of game with a pair of prongs if his life depended on it. So he doesn't want to spend money on the game but would love to read more about the lore. Is there any way to do that?

[real dove]

Compendium

Glad rain isn't charging for it lol

Dammit phone

RAI

[real cedar]

There is a compendium of lore in the pinned comments of this channel for full reading. A proper open source wiki is the fandom one, but that's very outdated. A new wiki will be coming in the near future.

[real dove]

There's YouTubers who also do lore

[clear glacier]

I was thinking more so of a singular helmet instead of a full set (a sallet would work pretty well) but combining a lot of the aesthetics of shit like the T3 hunters with all their worn ramshackle gear n whatnot

[clear glacier]

Could also agree here; I would totally run a hunter with a sword and cloak that'd be awesome

would also fit very well if you were running the mot juste cav saber

[spiral mica]

anyone else find these crates of unassembled dolches and winfields next to Davant Ranch?

[warm quartz]

Where do you see dolches?

[real dove]

Smaller box on the right

[warm quartz]

I'm just going to assume it is since the guy plays on russian blocked youtube video settings

[fickle sluice]

I said it once and I'll say it again: I'd love to get a comment on the vision for hunt. Not only gameplay-wise but also lore-wise. The old "where do you see yourself in three years" question. Would be interesting to know what kind of path the writers have in mind for the game. At least we'd know if we'd have to fear another set of vikings

[green pollen]

I want those Viking fucking GONE. Give me a Cuban or some shit

[clear glacier]

for better clarity

[regal wolf]

Defintely would be nice. I feel like there was a vision at one point but maybe they lost sight due to development. During early access when lore was easily found in the home screen. I remember there being an ad for an inhaler. I always figured this is what started the change of people into grunts. So many grunts in the game sound like they are having an asthma attack. Any truth to this? Have the developers of this game connected anything? If not is that why it was removed from the game ui because they are reworking the lore.

[regal wolf]

The lore is being read from a modern day perspective. Makes me think that a few seasons from now or if there is a Hunt two it will take place in Modern times because who ever was doing research realizes shit was bad in the past and it was stopped or prevented and now they need to do it again.

[real cedar]

The origin of the infection has continued to be obscured with a few proposed theories but nothing concrete. Rawlings is never brought up again in other lore though.

[regal wolf]

whos rawlings

[real cedar]

The guy who advertised the vapor inhaler in the early lore

[regal wolf]

in your google doc for the lore I dont see the ads just the wording are you not allowed to post the ads themselves?

[real cedar]

I keep the whole doc text based so it's easier to search through for keywords

Here's the ad anyway

[zenith perch]

I have asthma

Seems like good medicine to me

I sure hope nothing bad happens to me once I inhale the medicine

[granite shard]

It’s unlikely that we’ll ever get past the early 1900s (if we even reach that) in the main game of hunt. Likely the only way a more modern setting would come into the picture would be from a spinoff

[iron estuary]

i assumed you guys are joking about the inhaler

[zenith perch]

Hunt 2077

Wake the fuck up Hunter. We got a bayou to burn.

https://tenor.com/view/trailer-johnny-silver-hand-keanu-reeves-cyberpunk2077-wake-up-samurai-gif-26400744

[granite shard]

lol

[zenith perch]

Or or

Rise up dead man. We got a bayou to burn.

https://tenor.com/view/trailer-johnny-silver-hand-keanu-reeves-cyberpunk2077-wake-up-samurai-gif-26400744

[granite shard]

I do think to an extent it would be neat to see how the world would react to the sculptor in modern times but it would be an entirely different game that would struggle to stand out

[iron estuary]

five bucks say the devs are scrolling this thread laughing their asses off and will end up choosing one of the fan-theories to make canon

[zenith perch]

Could be something like F.E.A.R.

[noble scarab]

World War One era hunt would be fun

[zenith perch]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[iron estuary]

i dont mind the vikings at all. their description even implies they are cosplayers

[granite shard]

honestly a purely PvE hunt game w a more modern incursion from the sculptor could be really neat on a narrative level

[iron estuary]

swedaboos, basically

[granite shard]

but my general opinion is I want hunt to stay before WWI

since guns advanced so fast in that era and beyond

[iron estuary]

also there is tons of norse symbolism in the games artstyle

[real cedar]

Yeah, it won't be the same type of theme once it goes beyond the gilded age

[granite shard]

yeah

[regal wolf]

what makes you say that?

[granite shard]

why we won't get past the early 1900s, or that we won't see a modern setting?

[regal wolf]

I believe that.

[real dove]

in that case

Lynch as boss

Twins as hunters

uh

[granite shard]

we likely won't get past the early 1900s one because it's taken six years to advance a single year in the timeline, two because hunt's core identity is tied around the gilded age & weapons within it and that would go away if you progress too far into the 1900s

[regal wolf]

both

[real dove]

sofia and lulu get married

[granite shard]

and we won't see anything modern because we've had the contemporary researcher from basically the beginning with zero indication that there's a story to progress there

[real dove]

DA is alive and well and runs around with a RJ mask and is friends with The Phantom

[granite shard]

the contemporary researcher just really only serves as a setting device to explain why we have this collection of letters, journals, etc, and also to provide commentary and thoughts on the various things we're looking at

like pointing out how collins can be unreliable when looking through his material

[green pollen]

Oh okay nvm then

[iron estuary]

i did some digging, I got curious since even the waldmann, ostensibly a bavarian/austrian redneck, has some vikings tats

thats a dreamstaff, meant to guide your way through sleep

the compendium says his arbor grenade has "some kind of rune" on top of it

its the letter M in a variation of the younger futhark called "short twig"