lore-discussion

[warm quartz]

Hardin already was "essentially a sheriff"

What jurisdiction can he possibly have in colorado?

[real dove]

Yeah, I had whimper but the missing m had me struggling but that was what made the most sense too

[frigid needle]

"If defeated the Hellborn will release a deafening screech and drop a Bounty Token & Burn Token with no banish time, so players will need to act fast once he is downed."

Do we know what that Burn Token is?

As in, was it mentioned ever before?

[real dove]

nope

new mechanic

will rotjaw get a drowned token O.o

[granite shard]

possible that it's a typo

and meant to be a burn trait

[real dove]

tru

[granite shard]

either that or maybe something you can exchange for a burn trait of your choice after extracting

[real dove]

O.o

Pls give rj one, that would bump up the desire to go after her by a lot

[granite shard]

yeah I think the no banish time plus burn trait would be great for her

[real dove]

low key think we wont see her on the new map out the gate

i think hellboy is going to be the wild boss until the other maps return but could be wrong

[granite shard]

very possible

[amber harbor]

Maybe its like the Baron in LOL, you get a buff to fire or something, idk

[real dove]

what was the ... BLazeborn!

you get blazeborn if you kill him lol

[granite shard]

I think blazeborn could be interesting as a scarce trait

[visual finch]

god i hope not

[real dove]

Giving the roamers a token to let you get a burn trait would be a really great incentive

[granite shard]

I think dropping a random burn trait would ultimately be the best call

since if it's a token everyone's just gonna be picking the strongest ones lol

[visual finch]

Oh that for sure

I think i suggested it back when Rotjaw was introduced

and blazeborn would thematically be the most accurate choice for the new dude, but i hope blazeborn never return, from a gameplay point of view it was atrocious

[real dove]

could tie them to pacts- rotjaw to drowned and hellboy to infernal. but agreed, having them drop a random burn trait would be the best

[granite shard]

tbh infernal is a lot more than just fire, like there's that connection to mr chary

but I'm really excited for it to drop whatever related to a burn trait bc god that gives you 9000% the reason to fight it over rotjaw

[real dove]

true. moreso you could link burn-related traits to firelordozai

[visual finch]

I will not fight Rotjaw anyway

she's a princess

I'll protect her

[granite shard]

🫡

[real dove]

be really funny if they added a pacifist mode for her. have to like, sneak up and not disturb her and wait 10min or something and she gives you the token and stuff

[real cedar]

https://fixvx.com/HuntShowdown/status/1821954821349376146

the video is just PCgamer's trailer but the description is new

[orchid tangle]

gotta drag the corpse of the girl who owned rotjaw or whatever to her to make peace

seems in line with crytek universe

[real dove]

Enola? shes still alive in the LOD (unless she got washed out) so maybe theyll get reunited

[granite shard]

tbh she might be dead

I don't think there was a massive tragedy to open a portal, so she might have just fully died

[real dove]

I figured she and gar were still there

with lynch

[granite shard]

yeah I think she's just dead, otherwise she prob could have managed to find a way back to the land of the living

tbh same w the gar-- she died and was thinking "okay maybe I can do a death cheat" but she didn't manage to get back

[orchid tangle]

I'd rather be dead than chill with lynch forever probably

[real dove]

mmmm. lowkey hope not, for RJ's sake lol, but would explain gar's dissappearing

[icy brook]

The Hellborn looks good, it’s definitely more interesting than I first thought, I’m not yet sure how it fits into the lore

[frozen drift]

I'm guessing they're the one involved with the trapper duo?

[real cedar]

Harold Black coming back and touring around with a powerful local man gives me hope that it's gonna be similar to the old Book of Monsters lore, real research going on and connecting to the general area a bit more than any of the old events where it was all hunters all the time

[frozen drift]

the black coat?

[real cedar]

The Researcher

[frozen drift]

ah

[native marlin]

The past few events they look at unused skins and try to bring them back into the spotlight, which I find cool

[frozen drift]

I'm guessing this new hellborn is the thing from the trapper's backstory?

[native marlin]

Like the researcher? The rat? Basically completely ignored for so long

[frozen drift]

shame she got got.

[granite shard]

it's not really said. a few people theorize it is, I think the thing from the trapper's backstory was a human since the timeline would be pretty far out from the corruption

[native marlin]

Yea it kinda is, but I mean hey, shes actually important in the lore now, so that's kinda cool!

[vague crescent]

Do we have any lore with all three of the “plague doctors” together? IE the plague doctor himself as well as bile and brood?

[native marlin]

Yes, book of weapons somewhere

I genuinely can't remember the gun for the life of me, but it talks about experiments and how they're coming to join him in the hunt

It's the marathon I think?

YES IT IS

[vague crescent]

Thank you!

I’m very curious to see how they interact and where they stand precisely

[native marlin]

Np! And me too, I just hope the books and stuff come back in some form, bc I know its archived, but its yet another game you need an external source to read stuff

[tropic briar]

Any good lore videos in particular?

[native marlin]

Other people would know better then me, but hazmat ftw has some good lore stuff

[real dove]

Hazmatftw is the only lore YouTuber I know of. I'm sure there are others if you look, and we are pretty good at summarizing stuff too

[tiny plover]

He's gonna have some good material to work with in the near future I hope

[tiny plover]

I also love the voice they gave Mountian Dad

[warm quartz]

I've noticed more Hunt lore videos popping up

[high stone]

Checking out this Hellborn thing hmmm

You guys are right I think, I like Mountain Man’s voice

[warm quartz]

Hope this time they'll stop reading details about what it's written on

That's just stupid

Imagine writing a diary and starting each chapter with "I'm writing this in a diary, 5.5. inches in size, with my scrawny handwriting"

It's like they just point voice actors onto txt file and command "read"

[high stone]

The voice actors, for the read-aloud lore?

I’m realizing I like the newer, two word combo boss naming style (Scrapbeak, Rotjaw, Hellborn) a lot less than the original, singular naming style (The Spider, Butcher, Assassin)

It’s hard to put my finger on it, the new style feels like Ninjas Turtles characters or something, or very “video gamey”…

[fast flare]

I did this to work on the lore, it's all the pages from the weapon and monster books, there's also every Hunt guns and hunters skin, events page and things we can find on the website

[real cedar]

https://x.com/HuntShowdown/status/1822301891411197980

Hunt: Showdown (@HuntShowdown) on X

Miner's Folly is the perfect example of what to expect when it comes to Mammon's Gulch.

Once bustling and full of life, it's been reduced to a charred echo of its former self. The ruins still smolder in the aftermath of whatever carved its way through the now dead streets.

Twitter · Aug 10, 2024, 4:00 PM

The description implies the Hellborn burned down Miner's Folly, interesting.

[empty basin]

I'm excited to explore the ruined town. Will probably get headshot sniped while sight seeing quite a bit when map 1st drops

[real cedar]

From my own experience with meathead farming it's more like being run down by a trio cause they happened to see or hear you nearby near the start of the match. after the first 4 min you can explore greyed out sections at your leisure.
Could be different with the big elevation changes though.

[empty basin]

Yeah I'm curious how it plays out, I hope the bullet drop helps as much as the dev's seem to think it will because there were some spots that really looked like a sniper's... Dream, lol

[warm quartz]

Yes

[native marlin]

this looks great! question: is there the random loading screens from previous events? bc some of them had some really cool lore!

[fast flare]

No I don't have this

And it's all in french!

[pale sparrow]

Am I wierd or does anyone else do lore-appropriate loadouts? For instance, I farmed a ton of solo blueprint farming yesterday. My hunter was the Researcher. And my loadout supported stealth and observation. It is kind of amazing how many different playstyles this game can support.

[native marlin]

thats cool!! dont see a lot of french resources, and thats fair, i always wished that i SC'd them, but i never thought about it in the moment

[real cedar]

I had to go through several hours of old streams from each event but I believe I've collected them all into the compendium.
I also should've SC'd them, I started doing that in-game but not for the streams

[fast flare]

I made a first video on the lore and I'm working on a second part, i'm fascinated by all of this, i have found lots of things by reading the lore

[pale sparrow]

Any word on the future of the Book of Monsters?

[real cedar]

Only word is that it'll be replaced by some other progression system at a later date, no word on what will happen to the lore though.

[fast flare]

I'm sad they remove the books

I spend so much time unlocking the 400+ pages

[native marlin]

me too, only thing i dont have is rotjaw bc shes bugged

im more sad that the lore in them is moved to an external source, bc so many people will never see them

[fast flare]

Rotjaw is hard to unlock but the intersting part is with Enola

[real cedar]

Yeah, starting off the new era of Hunt without all the lore is a serious shame, all these new players won't even know to look for more

[native marlin]

most people dont care much, but its sad to think people who are invested in the world, go "huh theres like only worldbuilding in the skins"

and yea! i think im 8 off the last entry, and have done enough, but if she goes under the water as you kill her, you dont get the "kill" accolade, so no clean sweep

[pale sparrow]

Agreed

[pale sparrow]

The atmosphere and lore are what keep me attached to Hunt vs other similar games.

[granite shard]

Same

[native marlin]

i get this, im not the same, but it definately helps build the world up, which is really cool

[vague crescent]

For plenty of people it doesn’t matter what you do, they won’t care about the lore. I don’t mind digging around a little bit to get the whole story myself

[granite shard]

I think that the obfuscation of the lore made it significantly harder to get invested into which really sucks

[native marlin]

its not that its impossible, its just harder, which is sad, like so many people might not even know it exists

[granite shard]

Imo just having a “learn more about this hunter by using these guns” indicators somewhere would have been amazing

[vague crescent]

Though the thought of “Hunt:a Hideo Kojima game” amuses me with the thought of hour long cutscenes where characters just talk

[real cedar]

100%. The hope of course is that Hunt provides a strong hook to pull in those that could care about the lore but just haven't looked close enough.
I started playing in late 2020 and I only truly started really reading the lore in late 2023

[torn light]

That would be pretty cool

[native marlin]

I'd have loved this, not only for the lore, but bc I also love to run lore accurate loadouts and this would help me remember who runs what

[granite shard]

Yeah it would have been sick

Esp a way to easily link weapon skins to hunters too

Back in June when I did my pride month challenge I had to like run through all of the skins to see which hunters they were related to so I could make sure I had all of my bases covered lol

[real cedar]

The closest thing we get to that in-game at the moment has been the bundle sales that periodically appear in the game's news feed

[native marlin]

Yea! Theres def some that are tied, it's just kinda, not super connected? Like you go "oh lulu basset I know her" but you kinda have to put 2 and 2 together yourself

[native marlin]

I remember when I was doing lore loadouts I spent FOREVER trying to remember what guns were night acolytes, I ended up having to go through them all so I feel your pain

[granite shard]

I’m particularly insane when it comes to memorizing lore stuff for hunt so thankfully I was able to remember most guns but god going through to make sure I didn’t miss anything was Pain

[native marlin]

honestly thats a super cool thing to remember, my memmory is so bad i have trouble even remembering the year of hunt sometimes, which is atrocious

[orchid tangle]

I need more guns
Private eye only gets a basic scottfield

that is a really really painful lore accurate loadout

[native marlin]

i may be mistaken but lulu gets what? a bornheim and a scottfield brawler and derringer? its a bit painful

[orchid tangle]

the derringer is billys
though I'm pretty sure theres some story about billy dying in some situation with lulu, so maybe a trophy she owns now

[granite shard]

Yeah sofia kills probably billy when he’s attempting to assault lulu

Seven sights might be Lulu’s

And she has her knife

[native marlin]

yea, there was def a relation thing, im not an expert, but im more just saying she really doesnt get a big gun, which makes sense bc she has guns she can keep on her, like most people

oh? i didnt know seven sights was lulus

[granite shard]

It was part of her original twitch drop campaign!

[native marlin]

its true! but i usually like to know its theirs if it mentions them yknow?

[granite shard]

Yeah I get you

I desperately want to see the mako the witch hunter was carving that details her relationship w Hail Mary as a skin

Her gun skins are my favorites for the officer/berthier deadeye

[orchid tangle]

I wanaa see the reactions to those details in some museum 100 years down the line when (assumingly) nobody is fighting in the bayou anymore

[native marlin]

id suggest this tbh, ill upvote it that sounds awesome

[granite shard]

Someone decoding the Mako: “oh this is about sex what the fuck”

[orchid tangle]

hopefully we get some fun lore gun skins, we know we're getting a ton of new hunters so I'm sure tons of guns too

my favorite random gun customization from ye old times was civil war soldiers putting coffee grinders in their rifles stocks

[native marlin]

that is a neat thing, i like weird little gun accessories like this

[high stone]

I think the paper dimensions are mostly noted when the material is something found later by a researcher…those miscellanae might help the researcher place that page into the correct sequence of a journal later, or determine the correct date of the script

[warm quartz]

But it doesn't have to be read out

We're supposed to be listening to hunter's inner thoughts

Not them reading whatever researcher digged up on them

[vague crescent]

@high stone bruh I so read that as “that mescaline might help” and for a moment there I was like “well I suppose altered states would maybe help”

[high stone]

I can’t remember how they were presented, were they always the same? Were some supposed to be the authors voice or something?

[high stone]

I mean, maybe some people!

[fast yacht]

ew what

[warm quartz]

I think it wasn't Billy Story

[real cedar]

All we know is Sofia killed a guy named Billy.
It'd be a pretty weird thing to do with one of the more exclusive hunters.

[native marlin]

i mean i know they both beat a guy to death together

and i know there was the twitch drops campaign which i think shows lulu killing billy, but idk if thats cannon

[granite shard]

They’ve killed multiple people together it’s great

[native marlin]

it really is

[granite shard]

At one point they seduce a nun by murdering a bishop in front of her

[real dove]

We do have multiple hunters/characters with duplicate names, so it is possible it's not story

[native marlin]

lulu and sofia are my fav hunters, i love all thier lore books

[granite shard]

I think billy is a reasonable assumption since we haven’t seen another billy, but it’s up in the air until we get more proof

[native marlin]

this is true

[granite shard]

Same 🙏🙏🙏

Sofia my beloved

[native marlin]

it made me so happy to see them focused in the last few events

[real dove]

Sameee

[granite shard]

REAL

[native marlin]

everytime i got to their letters i was like YESSSSSS

[granite shard]

I lost my mind when sofia got voice acting lmao

[native marlin]

SAME

it was so well casted

[granite shard]

She did SUCH a great job

[warm quartz]

It's like the death of serious lore

[native marlin]

i liked the writing, obv lulu and sofia arent the best people, most people in the bayou arent

[granite shard]

Honestly one of my favorite elements of them is how like they’re bad people but have come out as some of the most like “focus on the bigger issue please” of the hunters

[native marlin]

sofia is a big example of this for sure

[granite shard]

Idk I love when stories explore how bad people can still do good

[native marlin]

100%

[granite shard]

Yeah, Lulu’s been sitting back and not really helping w that lol

[native marlin]

i dont even know what wouldve happened if sofia didnt stop chery, but it was probably atrocious

shes just there to read and send letters

[granite shard]

One of the writers had posed the idea that lulu and Sofia had kinda adopted Kevin so my thought is she’s just been hanging back watching Kevin lol

[real cedar]

Sofia is kinda three-sided, isn't she?
She has the original plotline about making a deal with Death against the mysterious four
She has the Sofia & Lulu murder spree
and then the Death Pact where she isn't trigger happy at all and instead wants to find the truth of the matter
Was the Bishop meant to be one of the Four or something?

[granite shard]

So the murder spree was connected to the four I believe

At least connected to the pact

[native marlin]

im adopting this theory tysm

[granite shard]

The bishop might have been part of it, I forget if she did any of the occult symbol stuff on him like she did at the big shootout

[real cedar]

Ahh yeah you're right, I was thinking the shootout was caused by Glover dying and the ranch boss getting up in arms about it, now I'm seeing it's more like Sofia was hunting him

[granite shard]

Yeah, idk if she was going after him as part of the four or just as part of her general pact w death

Maybe we’ll eventually learn more abt anyone who’s chasing after the people who killed their family 😂😂😂

[real cedar]

At this point you could staff a whole new pact with them 😂 "The Unresolved"

[native marlin]

next event, their pact trait is if people pick them enough, their lore gets new additions

[real cedar]

Let's see who's still hurting:
-Marshal Brewer is looking for the evil in the AHA's inner circle
-The Arcane Archaeologist is following a vision
-Prodigal Daughter still has three bullets to go
-Witch Hunter has her prize fight with Lynch coming up
-The Frisk family has shit to go through cause of Lonely Howl
-The Prescient and Night Seer are dueling for a prophecy
-Thirteenth Mate is seeking some unspecified revenge but he's got bigger issues now
-The Conspirator has yet to complete the Gunpowder Plot (lazy Brit tbh)
-Buckshot & Snare have to uncover the truth about the fire - this one might actually get resolved
-Vaquero has one name left on his revenge list

[native marlin]

prodigal got kinda robbed tbh

i was SO hoping shed shoot finch right before he got got

one single sparks shot from far away

[real cedar]

It's gonna be really awkward when she finds out what he is and realizes the bullet won't be enough

[native marlin]

see now that wouldve been an interesting time

well placed sparks shot, right to the head, she thinks hes done but he just kept going

i know him and chary are SOMETHING, but i never fully undertood what

[real cedar]

Finch calls himself immortal, and since he got thrown in the water with oleander leaves that suggests Chary was the same kind of immortal as Finch since the Lunar Pact used that trick on him too.

[native marlin]

for sure, finch just seems like he doesnt have the showy powers chary has, or maybe he just didnt show them off

[real cedar]

It's all the same brand of occultism I think. Finch did do a little bit in making the blood-bolt

[orchid tangle]

well ofc, sparks only does 149

[native marlin]

ok this got me

[native marlin]

for sure, otherwise he wouldnt know about it, but chary also knew that he knew, likely they did stuff together when they were more friendly

[warm quartz]

I think Sofia is working for death and does whatever he tells her to do for a chance at revenge

[real dove]

The whole thing of Death Pact is they they have an issue with death though

[warm quartz]

Bone Mason wants her son back

Reaper probably doesn't want to devolve into whatever is possessing him

Sofia wants revenge for her family

Worm guy probably likes to dig people

[real dove]

All the members have some kind of issue with Death, yes. More like Anti-Death pact really

Worm Bite doesn't like that the folks aren't staying dead iirc

[warm quartz]

Didn't they talk with him or something?

[real dove]

to be honest, I dont really recall. It was Tode of Corruption they first came around, but don't 100% recall what each of their issues were

[warm quartz]

I'm rereading it now

[real cedar]

The one line I really remember is that Death brought them back when it shouldn't have

[warm quartz]

Doesn't seem like they met the lord of the dead

[real cedar]

It's very odd to start the Death pact with "We would rather stay dead. Why Death has chosen us to come back to life, we don't know, but we are disgusted by its uncertain hand. We want answers. We demand punishment." when none of the members are known to have died. What are they talking about?

[real dove]

I wonder if we are missing something- if perhaps the hunters are more aware they die over and over only to be brought back to fight again more than what appears in the lore

That line is extra odd since yeah, none have died that we are aware of. They all have issues/connections with death, but haven't died that I know of... Kinda hoping we see them again

[real cedar]

I caught something while looking over the videos again. The red chevrons HAVE TO mean that the hunter is event boosted since Mountain Man has one. Further, it also means Marshal Brewer is coming back as part of the Lawful Pact.
Though, The Researcher not having one is kinda throwing me. He's the only guy we know for sure is part of a pact yet he's not boosted?

Still, here's the full list of hunters with that icon. They all seem to fit the pacts pretty well:

Sea Wolf & Wight Raven - Wilderness Pact maybe
Buckshot & Snare - Wilderness Pact
Mountie - Lawful Pact
The Cowl - Demented Pact
Scourge: Midian - Demented Pact
Two new masked hunters - Demented Pact
Marshal Brewer - Lawful Pact
Sheriff Hardin - Lawful Pact
Carter - Lawful Pact maybe

[warm quartz]

Into says "The Researcher AND Lawful pact"

[real cedar]

Ahhh that explains it

[warm quartz]

He doesn't strike me as a lawful type, but I assume Hardin mooks took over the swamp, forcing everyone to work together

Or at least to not fight each other

Except Felis and her furry squad, who jumped to Colorado

[real cedar]

I guess yeah if he's pure research he doesn't have time for sub-factions, he's just AHA.

If every Pact is going to have five boosted members, then that means Poncho is Lawful and Mummy is Demented

[warm quartz]

Carter has some history with Felis, actually

[real cedar]

Could be interesting to see them opposed if Felis shows up again. Carter doesn't seem like much of a wilderness guy

[kind thunder]

So why are we hunting and killing Rotjaw again? She just kinda wants to be left alone right? Doesn't seem like she poses much threat

[kind thunder]

I refuse to believe that my beloved Carter is associated with that wretched thing

[warm quartz]

I fear it's true

He recites what appear to be Felis' origin story

[kind thunder]

My heart burns, this is terrible news

I will make up for it by smiting every felis main I come across

[real cedar]

She produces a bounty token so there's big money involved in hunting her for average Hunters.
Other Hunters do it for the thrill of big game, and then there's the whole part where she's perpetually remade as part of the Sculptor's spreading corruption so any waters she gets put in are unsafe.

[kind thunder]

I feel bad for her, she literally just wants to be left tf alone

She's as much a victim as any of the other creatures in the bayou

Also, never forget kids, Assassin is canonically gay and I'm not even joking

[real cedar]

He is?

[kind thunder]

Yeah dude he disobeyed the sculptor to save a reporter that was marked for death

because he liked em

[warm quartz]

Where did you get it from?

I think he's just bad at aiming

[real cedar]

The Sculptor doesn't really mark things for death as far as we know

[kind thunder]

It was part of event lore but I listened to the re-readin by hazmat

He disguised himself as just a really tall dude and talked to said reporter at I believe it was a bar?

Like several times

they were friends, and assassin went out of his way to not kill him

To me, that's all the confirmation I need, assassin gay as hell (not that there's anything wrong w/ that)

[real cedar]

That's headcanonically but sure 😂

[kind thunder]

We can at least confirm they were homies

Assassin was chill w/ him

[real cedar]

Yeah, Vincent really turned the Researcher's life around

[kind thunder]

That makes me wonder what kind of hold the sculptor must have over the assassin, who is fully sapient and perfectly capable of defying the sculptor's wishes

I'm guessing that was more of an awkward talk with the boss type thing like "oops sorry I totally missed him"

winks in lack of eyeballs

[real cedar]

I 100% don't think the Sculptor wanted Harold Black dead, the knife throw was just cause he was chasing Vincent

[kind thunder]

Tbh I think the sculptor would want anyone digging too deep into the corruption dead unless it had a very specific use for them, at best it was probably ambivalent

I cannot imagine a timeline in which the sculptor wouldn't have preferred Harold Black died

Iirc harold was also digging into government ineptitude that allowed the plague to spread early on, yea? Which the sculptor wouldn't have wanted him to do

[warm quartz]

The fact that sculptor created the assassin implies to some degree that he wants certain people dead

[kind thunder]

Yeah, the assassin also acts as a scout and can leave the "zone" as it were

[real cedar]

At the time, Harold Black didn't know a thing about the corruption, he was just reporting on a political lynching related to a dead police chief. It would be years before he learned about what was happening.
As far as control, the general vibe I get is that the Sculptor takes possession of these things' souls, toys with them a bit to fit a need, then sets them loose within the zone that has been corrupted, and those entities follow their nature.

[warm quartz]

Also I doubt Harold had that kind of relationship with Vincent, since we read his private musings and he fail to mention anything of the sort

[kind thunder]

It can be one sided

it takes a powerful emotion to disobey orders from a deity, yknow

Therefore, assassin LGBTQ

Idk if you can call an amorphous horde of bugs that can shapeshift into whatever trans but it's kinda in that ballpark right?

(I'm mostly kidding plz don't lynch me)

[real cedar]

Polygamist maybe? Since it's all the bugs in agreement on a relationship

[kind thunder]

Damn that's a good point

I hadn't thought about that

So assassin is a gay trans polygamist

Or would non binary be more fitting

Oh boy the cockroach emote after the trans and gay flag is maybe not the best choice

[warm quartz]

He is literally a bunch of cockroaches

[kind thunder]

beetles*

I know you what you mean but it's not good for optics yknow

[warm quartz]

tis alright I added the strong arm emoji so it cancels out the cockroach one

And all of us know what we're talking about here

Anyhow, you might be as shocked as I am, but apparently having friends is not gay

It's just unseemly

[kind thunder]

Nahh, they were more than just friends

Assassin had a shrine fr fr

Dude's still sad ab the one that got away

Vincent big sad that Harold almost saw him without makeup

[warm quartz]

Anyhow, can I tell you guys how much I hate vaquero skin

I expected cool looking mexican guy

And got some humanlike swollen homunculus

Photos clearly showed his good side

His clothes and style are all great

But his head is just too wide

His weapon skins look great too, but decision to use skull shaped beads vexes me greatly

"I kill people for a living so I'll put these funny little skull shaped beads on my stuff that would be great for a laugh"

Is there some meaning or tradition behind such beads?

[kind thunder]

That's swelling from alcoholism.

I don't like the beads on his skins though, straight up ruins the aesthetic for me. I fucking hate charms and dangly things

[warm quartz]

And decision to use two revolvers, with the main gun being lower caliber just untoward

[warm quartz]

Hunters fight the supernatural, so it's only natural they pact a lot of charms

[real cedar]

It's just generally connected to Day of the Dead. It could be they depict lost souls dear to him, or it could be lives he took.
From quick research, skull beads seem to be more of a buddhist thing when it comes to genuine symbolism, so in this case it's more decoration than meaning.

[eternal hazel]

Malmmon’s Gulch is somehow in Colorado

Oh god….its spreading

[lucid anvil]

AT LEAST HE HAS HAIR FOR YOU

[eternal hazel]

are the bounty monsters the same being/person or its a random person turning into these beings?

[real dove]

It's a copy/paste thing going on for a lot of them. Grunts may be technically different in the world but due to models, are also mostly copy/pasted. But basically the sculptor sees something it likes and starts cloning it and outfitting each clone with a fragment of the "soul" of the original

[eternal hazel]

The cycle repeats itself

[orchid tangle]

poor hives daughter

[real dove]

yeah. sound like (to me) that we kill grunts/hives/etc and the body goes back into the ground (theres a few places that say the ground is thick with bodies under the surface) and the sculptor then uses that as a clay to reform new AI

[amber harbor]

What places?

[real dove]

Chapter 8 of TM, chary is sinking bodies into the ground, as well as Sparks Silenced where lynch reaches into the ground and pulls out a corpse. i wanna say there are more but dont want to reread everyhitng rn

[noble scarab]

There’s lots of spots where the ground is 90% bodies, like the overhang/bridge next to pelican

[real dove]

sorry, just 2 for now

[amber harbor]

Np, I was just wondering cuz it sounds like a metal af image but I didnt hear about it before, ty

[real dove]

and as well, if hunters have been killing hundresd of ai over and over, bodies have to be coming from somewhere/go somewhere as well... but just the 2 places I knew it had been mentioned

chary is kinda eh, since hes putting them in 1 place

but lynch just putting her hands in the ground and finding flesh is more interesting. it's part of BATS tho, so could be just extra fluff

[empty basin]

Wonder if we will get a good skin for the choke bomb since the event is heavily fire related

[sinful warren]

Would be nice, but chokes already have so many skins

Gimme fusees skin

[empty basin]

I haven't found one to buy that I like yet... been trying to get skins for all my regular loadout item's... Who knows maybe my normal loadout will change with the new map

[real cedar]

I don't think bodies are just hanging out down there, it's more that moving through the earth is part of the occultism that Chary and Lynch use. The Machete mastery has her pull a machete out of the ground the same way she pulls the man-doll.

[real dove]

true. but between the amount of bodies that the hunters are making, the "plague" and the war, i think it would be safe to say there are a fair number in the mud

[real cedar]

Yeah

[vague crescent]

At least 5

Maybe as many as 7 or more

[real dove]

Lol

Odds are good

[high stone]

Originally each Bounty (boss) monster was supposed to be one person that had transformed, and only one instance ever that was found, killed and banished. The writers didn’t like how that felt different from the “player experience”, and retconned the idea to be “the bounty monsters are being re-created somehow, and hunted over and over” (see the April 9th 2019 Dev Q&A in Rai’s wonderful pinned Lore Compendium)

The “reproduced” idea works better with some monster designs (Spider) than others (Scrapbeak), but you can see why they would want to make that change

I don’t think that happens with “lesser” monsters though, those are probably all supposed to be infected and transforming individual people (Crytek can’t put thousands of character skin variants in the game to reflect that, though)

[real dove]

Maybe that's what I'm pulling from. Could be either tbh, there's not exactly thousands of people living in those areas either

[high stone]

The mud sculpting idea presents so many awkward rabbit hole type questions, that it doesn’t plausibly seem like the thing Crytek was trying to show in game. I think Magnus only ever talked about “infection”, too.. But I mean, questions like: Why aren’t there a million Armoreds or Immolators only? Or all meatheads and Hellhounds? If it can make up creatures, why aren’t there a bunch of mud men, or crazier monsters in the swamps? As for the number of Grunts, it’s so there’s AI there for players to shoot each match

I know everyone’s talked about it before in here already, too

So, sorry to rehash

[real dove]

Well, the meathead originally was the baby of a hunter

There aren't other cases

I think it's rather the sculptor can't keep more than x number of ai of that type/power at a time

[vague crescent]

It’s also possible the sculptor has rules to follow we aren’t aware of. As part of their master plan perhaps certain types of certain monsters in certain areas is necessary and they simple don’t care about diversity of their creations. We shouldn’t assume a human like intelligence

[high stone]

Yeaahh but you guys are creating a whole bunch of layers of arbitrary rules to explain the necessary mechanics that have to happen when playing a video game more than once hahaha

[real dove]

i think its a cool concept, not rules. Matter of opinion on it

[granite shard]

That’s the hard part of lore for games I feel

[real dove]

"why do we see the same handful of asi over and over" well...

vs oh its just video game logic

[orchid tangle]

I would hope sculptor has rules just because if it's straight up a god that can do whatever the tension is gone imo and nothing can be done.
needs a fighting chance to be interesting

[granite shard]

Like trying to find the balance between making the lore feel applicable to the game and also not over complicating it for the sake of explaining everything

[real dove]

yes

[granite shard]

I think we’re seeing a sort of limit to its power— my theory is that the reason Louisiana is calming down as Colorado is picking up is that the sculptor can’t keep the full force up in two big areas

[real dove]

if they could just summon 500 scrapbeaks or armored or whatever, they would have

yeah

[high stone]

Where does Sonic the Hedgehog go when he dies?

[real cedar]

Sonic doesn't die, duh

[high stone]

Haha

[real dove]

It's just a matter of preference. You prefer it differently than i do. neither is right or wrong

[high stone]

I wonder what the reason is for the revolvers sticking to the sides of Hunters legs instead of inside their holster….telekinesis?

[orchid tangle]

man I wanted fucking custom holsters instead of charms

[high stone]

Fuck yeah

[real cedar]

It's the eternal watsonian vs doylist fight, trying to either point out or explain away imperfections in media from two different perspectives

[granite shard]

doylist for life 🙏

[high stone]

I guess? i think it’s a little more than preference, I think there is more evidence for one version, but I understand Alpaca really likes her idea haha

[orchid tangle]

it's 2024 knowing story driven media I'm betting on every match is another multiverse timeline with a different scrapbeak/butcher/whatever

[real dove]

I wasnt aware we had evidence

but yes, I do

[granite shard]

dear god the day hunt touches the idea of a multiverse is the day I pass away

[orchid tangle]

if I get to make my own version I'm gonna say every match is your hunters "story" of how they were the true one to kill the "one and only" bounty because thats in line with actual 1800s gunfighter stories
"who killed johnny ringo" idk 7 fucking people have including himself
and for the matches you die... uhhhh don't ask my version is still the correct one

[real cedar]

Funny thing, they nearly went with that idea back at the beginning

[high stone]

The devs actually mention how they dropped that perspective in that QA I talked about above

[orchid tangle]

damn

I was just throwing my first idea out

cyrtek should hire me I wont ruin anything

[real cedar]

Every match was going to be a retelling of a single story but they decided nothing else in the game really reinforced that storyteller perspective so they axed it

[real dove]

I mean going off the QnAs there is a whole bit that does back up what i believe

And...this is an addition tot he answer about the "one boss or multiple bosses thing"...to get into details following what Hearn just said. The first occurrence of each boss, which is what you are reading about in the Book of Monsters, involved one person being “turned,” and that original person/their soul/whatever you want to call that remains tied to that form, tormented in a kind of purgatory, doomed to respawn in the same hellish form again and again and again. Does that make it “just one” or multiples? I would argue its multiples, as its respawning, but the soul used in its creation is stuck in there each time. So there is a binding element that connects all Butchers/Spiders/Grunts etc, but technically, it’s a new creature each time. New creature same recipe.”

each time you make a cake its a different cake, but when you follow a chocolate cake recipe you get a chocolate cake... why not with AI

but the QnAs are also verrrrrrrrry old so

[orchid tangle]

do you think if they have a shred of humanity left to think they just get annoyed when they see the same hunter that knows how to expertly kill them show up

[real dove]

sounds like the grunts at least have locked in syndrome, so might be seen as a blessing in disguise but also, can you exist across so many copies of yourself and die over and over without going insane?

[orchid tangle]

they're locked in till its the person running from me or chasing me then they let them pass without trouble

[high stone]

Oh yeah! I missed the “Grunts” part from Hawthorne before (since that question and answer is about Bosses) That’s so bizarre that they wanted to make it the same person(‘s soul) over and over, when it could just be different new people “turning” into the same type of monster. And not figure out HOW they’re respawning!

I don’t understand the urge to over explain (and over complicate) things like that. Grunts, for instance: I could easily assume they wandered into the same map i’ve just played from some other afflicted zone nearby, while I was away….

I think it’s a classic “one hand not knowing what the other hand is doing” in game dev

Look at the monster stories - why write the Meatheads and Butchers origin stories as singular monsters when you know they’ll appear many times? (Are there THAT many pregnant Hunters??)

[real dove]

I just dont see it as complicating it. more as just a cool way to explain the same AI. but shall have to agree to disagree on that i think

[high stone]

It feels like the writers stepping on the toes of the game artists who created the maps and monsters with a certain narrative direction in mind- like a progressive infection tied in with the poisonous wasps, and also somehow generating these bosses)…

[high stone]

Yeah I guess so, I don’t think I’ll agree that it’s a good solution in Hunt’s case

[high stone]

Haha gotta make sure those Doylist things don’t screw up the Watsonian ideas

[real cedar]

And also that the Watsonian ideas are strong enough to fit with Doylist goals. It's a real balancing act.

Video games are often a lot more Doylist cause there's more outside pressures and less structure than a single author, creating more irl concessions for things rather than having an in-universe explanation for each part of the story

I suppose Hunt's version would be Blackian and Crytekish

[high stone]

Yeah, balancing the (hopefully not too disparate) tastes of a creative team, demands of committee design, and executive meddling/idiocy is tough…finding elegant solutions without tripping over yourself is a great idea

[zenith perch]

I wonder why Midian is part of the Event, and Morrigan isn't

(I'm a Morrigan main, I hope she's not dead)

[orchid tangle]

they kinda just randomly select hunters for event boosts

we've had BP hunters not included in their pacts before

[zenith perch]

True

[livid aurora]

Guys, who has lore notes open in the weapon book for Dolch Dead Eye, Coldwell Marathon (2nd knowledge) and Swift, Mako (2nd knowledge) and Fang? Post screenshots here please

[real dove]

If you look in the pins, there is a document with all the lore from all the BOW and much more :)

#lore-discussion message

[empty basin]

So is the lore behind the server's being down for 48hrs just travel time for all the Hunter's, or does anyone have a better idea?

And do we know if we keep the bayou shooting range or do we get something different? I remember them saying they are adding moving targets and other things to the shooting range but wonder if it'll stay the same setting

[keen scroll]

I heard they weren't adding moving targets.

[empty basin]

Oh damn ok I thought I heard that in a dev video but I could totally be misremembering and it wss something about bullet drop instead

[wary glacier]

Now that the library will be got rid from the game, where can we find everything related to the lore?

[real cedar]

The pinned comments in this channel have a pair of compendiums you can find all the lore in. Deadeye Bro's complete recreation of the Library is especially well done.

[wary glacier]

I saw it, thanks. But when they will update stuff or add lore where will it be found?

[real cedar]

They've said that the Library will get replaced with a different weapon and monster progression system but didn't say whether the lore would be reconnected to it.
At the moment, they've pushed some new lore onto social media with images you can read through, though it's more teaser than substance. The update will have the event lore, and I expect the Hunt website to have one or two new stories to read through.

We won't see what the new progression system is until October 7th at the very earliest, and more likely later than that.

[wary glacier]

Awesome, thanks for the answer! 😆

[unique ibex]

Do the runes/symbols used in the game have a proper meaning or did they just pick cool looking ones?

[real dove]

It's a language known as Voynich

Though the hunt one is not the same as the original

The one we use is pinned to this channel :)

[acoustic whale]

rings a bell

from the voynich manuscript

[real dove]

yep. it's also on the wiki under the lore section iirc

I just use the one pinned here when working on translations. Rai also has done a LOT and there are a lot of translations for weapons/lore bit on the Compendium, also pinned.

[real cedar]

Sometimes the voynich is meaningless, and sometimes there are other symbols more inspired by heremticism and alchemical symbols without actually representing anything. A recent example is the big symbols on Vaquero's sombrero.

[acoustic whale]

that's cool

didn't even know you guys went this deep lol

[amber harbor]

They actually used two different cyphers for the voynich, they have the hunt one and the V101 font (but only for the Charred Soul Rival skin)

[real cedar]

V101 also gets used for Enigma, Swamp Peach, and the text on the shooting range dummies. A third alphabet, Extensible Voynich Alphabet got used for Reaper's Arm and at least one other skin I'm forgetting

[granite shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyAgAa7faE0

egyptian themed antidote shot/hive bomb, so yeah the shroud's egyptian!

I wanna know more abt themmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

two days

[real cedar]

Also explains the Shade's two different ponchos from the trailer, this guy's gonna have a real fun story

[granite shard]

yeah I'm excited

[orchid tangle]

whenever they make hive bomb skins they come out fantastic

[zenith perch]

I wanna know about these guys

[warm quartz]

Wish they made normal egyptian hunter and not another prodigal daughter expy

Prodigal daughter and her consequences have been disasterous for Hunt: Showdown

[real dove]

Her popularity?

[warm quartz]

No, stupid metal mask

[zenith perch]

We need a headbutt perk

[real dove]

She's been a top selling DLC for as long as I've been playing, I think a lot of folks think she is cool. I will agree, I think the masks have been a bit overdone, but some are much more "original" than others in my opinion.

[zenith perch]

Imagine getting headbutt by Morrigan or the new Grotesque guys

[warm quartz]

It's okay for some hunters to have full face masks

[real dove]

I want to see their dynamic

2 known demented pairs, I'm curious what they could do with them

[zenith perch]

I'm happy we have a new chain pistol

[warm quartz]

But now we get 3 hunters with same overdone attire style in one update

[zenith perch]

Also, I hope we get a Spider hunter

[warm quartz]

I'm glad they added smith carbine

Another classic cowboy gun

[zenith perch]

[warm quartz]

It seems they are moving away from gilded age and fully leaning into cowboy shootin tootin wild west theme

[zenith perch]

I wonder how the Egyptian stuff fits in with the pacts

Doesn't seem Demented to me

[real cedar]

The Egyptian theme really feels like a DLC they decided to throw into the event rather than stay standalone

[zenith perch]

Maybe The Shroud is part of The Sinners faction

Like Viper

[granite shard]

that would be neat actually

I'd like to see the sinners fleshed out more

[zenith perch]

Yeah cause The Sinners are Djinn hunters

Maybe a complete subversion and The Shroud is Lawful

[granite shard]

ooooh

[zenith perch]

Like a "I've seen this before" type character

https://tenor.com/view/skips-ive-seen-this-before-gif-16986963320381168083

[zenith perch]

They have a few weapon skins. The Nitro one, the two Mosin Obrez ones, and the Martini Deadeye one

[granite shard]

yeah but I want to see more people associated w them lol

[zenith perch]

And Pioneer's Blood, the Vetterli

[zenith perch]

Hopefully we get more of them

I like the vibe they have where they're fully devoted to the hunt and their only reward is death and damnation

I hope one day we get Chary, Lynch, Jos and Fina as hunters

[granite shard]

🙏

[orchid tangle]

I reall want a lot of lore hunters I'm just scared they wont look as cool as I imagine them

[zenith perch]

And Glanton

[granite shard]

I think crytek is afraid of what will happen if I get a canon chary look tho

number one chary enjoyer smalls2233

[zenith perch]

Another Assassin themed hunter maybe

Glanton and Assassin have it out for each other

I wonder what Jos and Fina are doing and if the Serpent is evil or not

[real cedar]

Mining towns drying up is part of the end of the gilded age, and the Researcher showing up to study the Hellborn might be some of the first real science we've gotten in years which is an important theme. Then there's the railroads focus, the oil baron and potential political corruption of the backers. It's all quite squarely in gilded age themes.

[zenith perch]

Original game was called Hunt: Horrors of the Gilded Age

HANG ON

In one of the promotions images wasn't The Shroud fighting against Hellborn with Shade?

[granite shard]

yeah, but that's not necessarily canon

[real cedar]

Yeah, but that's a promotional image, it doesn't mean much until it does

[granite shard]

sometimes event promo stuff doesn't line up one to one w canon

[zenith perch]

Thought I was onto something

So Shade as Wilderness or Lawful

Thoughts?

[real cedar]

I want to say Lawful cause it neatly sorts the pacts into 5 hunters each, but him using a nitro in the trailer then wielding the legendary skin nitro in the promo image makes me think he's Wilderness cause the skin has the same assets as the Trappers.

[zenith perch]

Yeah, and the poncho kinda fits the vibe

[granite shard]

wilderness would be interesting

I wonder if the trappers were originally supposed to be BP and they got swapped w shade

[granite shard]

I'm also wondering if we'll get content creators doing BP overview videos like we've gotten the past few events

usually they go through all of the tiers so you can get a glimpse of the various lore chapter summaries. I'm guessing we're still getting those based on the event summary blog post

[tired torrent]

Is there some ytb channel that tells the story of all events?

[real dove]

Hazmatftw has stuff, you can find the full event stories on a few channels if you look those up

[warm quartz]

I can't help but notice that he's fanning scottfield precision in the preview

[spiral mica]

Does anyone know what time of year the new map is in?

I've been to Colorado a few times now and my assumption is that it's sometime between June and October since any other time of the year would have a lot of snow up in the mountains

[orchid tangle]

august apparently

[real dove]

ngl I really hope that isnt meant to be the actual time

since we lose like, 1/2 of 1896 immediately lol

[spiral mica]

That makes sense I guess

I was just up in Leadville visiting some friends and the visuals featured in the new map fit perfectly with the actual environment

[orchid tangle]

they just wanna damn well make sure it's around summer time so people can't beg for snow storm, even if nearing the end of the season

[real dove]

I want it to be spring tbh

so we have, like, the whole year of events

and not this frantic end of summer fall winter stuff

[orchid tangle]

need that just right temperature too so characters outfits can make sense

3/4ths of these guys have to be so happy to get out of a Louisiana swamp and into a mountain

[real dove]

i mean, it stays cool enough that most of them would now actually make sense

but i dont think they care

since they been sweating it out lol

[orchid tangle]

I wear a black wool coat everyday and you do just start to not care but then theres that one moment where a sweat bead drops into your eye

I just know it'd happen right as I'm aiming at someone

[high stone]

Good thing?

[warm quartz]

Well, gilded age was the original theme

[high stone]

Oh I thought that was a Spencer, I didn’t look closely

[high stone]

Right, it is

[warm quartz]

It is Spencer, for some reason I called it smith carbine

[high stone]

Ohh ok

Moving more into Cowboy Zone feels like it’s caused by the result of some focus group mentality…it will surely lassoo the cowboy crowd

At least there’s finally a Gasworks!

It would have been fun to have a small gasworks in Lawson Delta, or Desalle

more industrial feeling, for the tail end of the Gilded Age

[spiral mica]

I was going to say since the map came out in August maybe we'll get a snowy version for whatever event happens in December and January?

Some kind of Midwinter event I'd reckon

[high stone]

Maybe more industrial buildings would quiet the “UHH MY GUY, tHere’s literally a HUot gun in the gAme, it’s FANTASY” people

[orchid tangle]

we'll see how the chapters are this event, I do prefer the western stuff more overall, but as long as the chapters are still voodoo stuff I'll be good with it

[spiral mica]

I personally feel like a focus on the cryptid aspect of the north american west would be a cool addition to hunt

I don't really care much what they end up focusing on. It can be voodoo, cryptid, supernatural paranormal, cosmic eldritch horror or even extraterrestrials if they really wanted to. Whatever they end up going for I know I'll probably enjoy it all the same

[orchid tangle]

I just wanna know what happened to charys crew after the death pact attacked, lots of cool characters shot down in a singular sentence, surely they aren't actually dead dead

[real cedar]

I hope they're not that Laissez-faire about additions. They've done well so far not to go for low hanging fruit like cryptids and instead build up their own style of monsters.

[spiral mica]

I'd like to know what happened to Reptilian and his ward

from my understanding hornback and skinned are currently deceased

Gar is most certainly dead

but the primal pact seems to be mostly intact if the previous event is anything to go off of

[orchid tangle]

I study cryptids and cultural/urban legends hard so I'm glad hunt doesn't delve into them cuz I know itll be inaccurate somehow and I'll freak out because it's my niche topic

[spiral mica]

There's lots of room for interpretation when it comes to folklore and urban legends so they could end up doing something entirely new and unique as opposed to a simple wendigo or lycan which is what I keep hearing people want

mothman is another one I hear a lot about too

imagine how funny it would be if we got gnomes in hunt lol

[empty basin]

If we are going West, "more cowboy" fits... Hope it can still have that creepy feel of LA setting

[orchid tangle]

I just like the idea of them doing fucked up animals

horses can be made creepy looking I'd like a monster version of a horse for a boss

[spiral mica]

or a giant bear

bears are quite scary when they're disturbed during their hibernation period

[orchid tangle]

I know skinwalkers are another thing people want which urks me since they're just shapeshifters with some basic "witchy" powers, they're not gonna tank a bullet, they're just a human that can be a squirrel sometimes

[real cedar]

Hell, skinwalkers are already in the game if rumors about Felis are to be believed

[spiral mica]

I feel like the term skinwalker is pretty comprehensive idea for a cryptid

interpretation can vary from person to person

[orchid tangle]

mothman would be cool it's just not location accurate, not like hunts known for being accurate to it's content though so whatever

actually no I take that back a flying boss would be worse than spider running for 3/4ths the fight

[empty basin]

Yeah I don't want that either

[spiral mica]

I would say it could work if they focused on that animal aspect and somehow tie that in with some sort of migration action

before Rotjaw the lore said the water devils caused the alligators to flee the bayou

they probably went further down south or east to the Florida everglades

[orchid tangle]

rotjaw is our princess but she's also just kinda... an alligator
I want more creepy designs ffor things

hellborn is looking cool, I like the fire throwing

[empty basin]

Idk Rotjaw is fitting, it is a native animal but has the supernatural tie and lore behind it

[spiral mica]

Hellborn is cool but we kind of already had a fire theme with the butcher but it's too early to tell what it'll actually be aside from the obvious fire theme

[real cedar]

One potential legend to borrow from for perhaps a story or just an offhand reference could be the tommyknockers, it's a legend that came from England to Colorado based on miner's superstitions about noises in the mine and disappearing tools. The English version is more of a fae/gnome kinda thing while the American version is more of a ghost. Both share the idea that the miners have to respect them and heed their warnings.

[orchid tangle]

I'm just interested in how it'll work, it looked like they were shooting it without much happening, a single sharp object making him go burny seems a bit too harsh, but something like him doing it at half health like rotjaw also seems harsh, but surely he does it at some point

I love old miner and luberjack stories

[spiral mica]

It's so astonishing to me how fatigued workers probably going crazy from being down in the mines for way too long would come up with such superstitious reasons as to why their tools are disappearing and why they're hearing bumps in the dark

[orchid tangle]

I wish notdeer was treated like a scary legend and not just a lumberjack story, but I think it's nice and vague and creepy... Something like it in hunt would be cool and fitting

[empty basin]

Guess on how gnome combat would look?

[spiral mica]

but from a modern standpoint you can't really blame them because they just didn't know and it was already pretty unknown territory what with "boom towns" being popularized around this time and the American west still being a frontier

[empty basin]

Would it be fast and jump or throw the stolen miner tools at you

[orchid tangle]

a lot of legends seem understandable when looking back with a modern standpoint to older fools who didn't know much

unicorns are rhinos, sea serpents are oarfish, etc

[spiral mica]

It could knock over lanterns and start small fires like we see with the headlamp grunts

catching players off guard

[orchid tangle]

all fun and games till it does it on your body the moment you go down

[spiral mica]

ambient noises like footsteps and rocks falling onto hard surfaces

[spiral mica]

yeah that would be part of the hazard imagine getting burned out by something that isn't even a player

[empty basin]

Leaves oil slicks and eventually throws tools at lamp causing it to spread

[orchid tangle]

worse than dying to horse kick

[spiral mica]

which is technically possible if a headlamp grunt or lantern grunt goes off right on top of your corpse

[spiral mica]

or getting downed by a door

[warm quartz]

Bears are always scary

[spiral mica]

absolutely

[warm quartz]

But they're most dangerous when they're mothers around their young

[spiral mica]

the saying don't poke the bear can also be literal

[warm quartz]

Then they just maul you because they don't appreciate your vibe

[spiral mica]

the only thing scarier than a bear is a mountain lion

I'd argue that mountain lions are possibly scarier since they can camouflage exceptionally well

they also stalk their prey by sneaking around

you usually don't see them until it's too late

[orchid tangle]

big cats alone are freaky with the noises they make

I remember staying at my dads when I was young, my room didn't have any curtains and he lived surrounded by woods, so I'd be laying in bed and the bobcats screaming in the forests always sound like humans screaming, freaked young me out when in reality it's just cats communicating in the woods

[spiral mica]

oh for sure

one late night while hammock camping in the trees I heard what sounded like a young woman screaming bloody murder but it was in fact just a mountain lion

[orchid tangle]

the forests trolls

[spiral mica]

if I hadn't known better I would've investigated to try and help the supposed woman

[orchid tangle]

ofc the scariest noise of the woods actually being silence though

[spiral mica]

yes I've heard that as well

when even the birds and crickets stop and everything is dead silent

people I've talked to about that usually register it as something supernatural that is occurring or is about to occur

I try to maintain a rational mind and not be superstitious but there are some things that are very difficult to explain

[orchid tangle]

I usually just assume a predator is nearby, for supernatural stuff sometimes I'll go out at night on forest trails to walk, theres this stupid meme about songs to run to and someone says "I run to zombies noises, screams, and voice recordings of people saying 'come here little boy'" and I thought it was funny and copied it, really fucks with you at night and makes it look like I'm seeing figures that obviously aren't actually around, good fun once back at the car and no longer paranoid though

[high stone]

Not sure how I feel about Hellborn yet, something about it looks a little like fortnite/gears of war crossover beast…it’s name, too…

[orchid tangle]

it does seem more "action" than anything if that makes sense

has to be better than rotjaw tho

[high stone]

Yeah…is it true there’s no banishment countdown for it?

[orchid tangle]

I dunno anything about that, but that might make sense, I mean it already looks like something you wouldn't dare touch unless the lobby is cleared

it's in that big ass open field and it's an immolator of all things... the one enemy you can weaponize against other hunters

[high stone]

I wonder what the yellow glop is

[real cedar]

If I translated the anatomy sketch image correctly, it's spit that resembles lava-like gel

[high stone]

Hmm

[real cedar]

The core of the creature seems to be based on the lungs. I wonder if there's meant to be any connection to black lung or silicosis. Like the Hellborn when he was human was involved with whatever ritual shit they were doing and breathed it in just like miners do.

[rugged iron]

@orchid tangle

To track down Hellborn, Hunters will need to activate Dark Sight and listen for the creature's signature raging howls. Be prepared - the moment you come across him, Hellborn will unleash an onslaught of fiery attacks, forcing players will need to evade raining fireballs, keep their cool and not become an ash heap….

If defeated the Hellborn will release a deafening screech and drop a Bounty Token & Burn Token with no banish time, so players will need to act fast once he is downed.
https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/unleashing-the-flames-introducing-hellborn-our-newest-wild-target

[orchid tangle]

I wonder if the big burned up black zone moves around for him or it's just that one area and hes only been shown there for theme reasons

[empty basin]

I'm sure the fight will let half the map know where you are anyway

[spiral mica]

yeah I notice there's an emphasis on raging howls and a deafening screech

I wonder if his screeching is louder than scrapbeak

[high stone]

I wonder if the “Veins” part in the researcher drawing is referencing veins of ore? Remember that other thing @real dove was mentioning….Grunts drinking molten ore or something? There might be a connection there…but still…what the hell?

[real cedar]

Unless something else comes out that explains it better, I'm starting to lean more towards the translation being reins instead, since that fits with the Sculptor possession lore, using a piece of the soul to create and control a copy of the flesh

[high stone]

Ahh ok

[real cedar]

It's the biggest downside of Voynich, those edge cases where either version of a near-identical letter could work

[high stone]

I mean, that stuff does look like hot metal that Hellborn is throwing (up?)

[real cedar]

True, maybe that's part of the ritual that was performed? I gotta go read the line again

"Miners sipping molten metal until their jaws burned off."

[high stone]

Is that fella eating all the metal down there

Hmm, he does have that split jaw

[real cedar]

That's a really good lead, yeah

[brazen root]

Aw man

They really conjured the hellborn trying to find more gold in the ground

[vague crescent]

I think its important to remember that whilst cougars are scary for their stealth, they kill you first. Bears do not care if you are alive and fighting back or playing dead, or actually dead. They will just start eating, and will likely do so whilst you are alive. An undead zombie bear, is likely even nastier.

[granite shard]

I’m hoping this isn’t the case but I have a slight fear that the event lore could be whatever was going to be used in the book of monsters for the hellborn

[orchid tangle]

surely we have to get some sort of felis and hardin catchup while mountain man is the third voice hunting hellborn

[granite shard]

I hope so

I think I'll feel better when I solidly see what's going on with the event lore instead of being in this sort of limbo

[amber harbor]

I read this at first and thought you were saying they were going to explain removing the books as "the Hellborn burnt them all"

[zenith perch]

I'm betting on it now

Shade is Wilderness

Shroud is Lawful

[steady umbra]

big cats are terrifying in every way. there's a reason ancient humans revered bears somewhat (terrifying beasts, but have many human characteristics) but saw big cats as demons of the night.

[real dove]

They also scream, at least the mountain lions that live in that area do.

[steady umbra]

yeah, their vocalizations are pretty scary too.

only animals that genuinely scare me are polar bears and big cats, but luckily ive never been in polar bear territory

was kinda hoping we'd get some more mountain-ish themed enemies with this update but remains to be seen ig

[real dove]

yeah. I too hope for some different AI

esp if we get a few maps in this area

[empty basin]

I could see a mountain cat as a good new AI enemy. As it stands the only AI mob that still makes me say "oh shit, better go another way" is a group of hellhounds, so a single fast moving, bleed causing mountain cat in the hills of Colorado would be a fitting enemy in the new map. And good catch on the drinking molten metal / Hellborn fire ball tie in.

[granite shard]

oh god a mountain cat that stalks people

that would be wild

[empty basin]

And it's loud screaming when it attacks could easily let other hunters know you are nearby and probably bleeding

[real dove]

I still want some fucked up/mutated elk

wall of antlers and glowing eyes

[empty basin]

And a demonic elk call could be creepy

[real dove]

mountain lions would be also super cool

yes

Honestly would have loved to see elk over cows for the noisetrap

but alas, cow. it's okay tho, I love cow

[icy brook]

I’ve been asking for a pig sound trap for years

Just a pig, nothing more nothing less

[real dove]

pig would make sense

would hurt to hear them yelling though

the dogs barking/chickens i can stand cause they are just freaking out some (in my head)

maybe in time theyll add elk. I think we will see the cows appear in the other maps, so making the elk for just 1 map doesnt make a lot of sense

so likely any AI will be made to also eventually appear in the LA maps

[empty basin]

If the corrupted grunts will eat the horses, they for sure would munch on pig or cow
But I think cow and pig could go with the LA maps, and I agree that would be a smart assumption that it would have to be able to fit CO and LA

[real dove]

Yeah. I will hold hope that maybe- whitetail are found in both regions and could be used but arent as cool as big elk

[icy brook]

Deer of some kind would be thematic, but don’t really make a noise when struggling like horses

Cows would be fun though

[real dove]

yeah

I will be surprised if we dont see the cows/bats come to the other maps, but will have to see once they are brought back

[icy brook]

I would like more interactive stuff like bells and elevators in the new map, there is great lore potential there

[real dove]

! we could see a bull of some kind as a roamer

dunno why I just thought of it

find him in fields around places, could have a loaded in fence area for cover that he spawns with. could be neat

[high stone]

I wonder how loud the bats will be…you can hear them IRL from like 10-15 yards away but it has to be completely quiet….bats aren’t really known for making noise…

[granite shard]

it would be interesting if it was mainly heard in the tunnels

like if the sound amplified in there specifically

[granite shard]

to be fair they've very known for making noise... just not the type humans normally hear 😂

[orchid tangle]

all the abandoned buildings would be a field day for bats on the other maps

[high stone]

Lol that’s very fair

[orchid tangle]

if I was a bat and saw heritage pork it'd be like seeing a grand mansion

[granite shard]

rabies has been introduced to hunt

[high stone]

Vultures would be a great audio/visual trap…they can croak when they take off, and circle the area for awhile, maybe even land again in the same spot. They’re everywhere, too!

[granite shard]

could be an interesting anti-camping mechanic

dead by daylight has crows appear on survivors if they just stand and do nothing/hide for too long, so something like that w vultures would be interesting

[high stone]

The bosses when they find this channel:

[rugged harbor]

Do you think with the new carbine they’ll make sure to add the “Specter Arms” makers mark to it?

[icy brook]

I’d suppose so

They did the same with the Colt Lightning

[real cedar]

New trailer on the Steam store, features Otis Blackwell and his still unnamed partners

[real dove]

ITS SO GOOD

[granite shard]

Yeah it’s fantastic

Facial animations

[real cedar]

There's a high chance someone is going to try jumping on Scrappy cause of it and die 😂

[restive patrol]

https://videogames.si.com/features/hunt-showdown-1896-interview?utm_source=reddit.com Confirmation that we are not returning to the bayou anytime soon (potentially having different states instead of a continuation of Colorado) + the addition of at least one new mob to the standard AI roster soon. Curious to see how they spin the lore to accommodate

[real cedar]

Interesting, potential new ways of extinguishing flames is on the drawing board.
I'm guessing they'll try a serpent-like trait that lets you extinguish hunters (with the added bonus that you can extinguish enemies, a commonly requested feature) which would be great against flareguns but naturally wouldn't solve firebombs and lanterns, giving them a strength once more.

Though the lore considerations for such a trait would be something. The game has already pushed dark sight so far, from just seeing things and touching the supernatural to raising the downed, stealing life from the dead, and then potentially pyrokinesis

[restive patrol]

yea . . . I personally would prefer a call back to more nuanced dark sight abilities rather than making it even more fantastical as it helped ground the game even more.

[real cedar]

Definitely. They added Shadow Leap as a regular scarce trait and have yet to mention it in lore, just a little explanation of how exactly people can physically teleport using occult steroids would be nice.

[granite shard]

The shadow leap video explains it a bit

[real cedar]

Oh I didn't realize those videos had lore in them, I passed em over as simple teasers

[granite shard]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=83AYh_1HBik

[real cedar]

Moving between worlds... that's kinda huge lore wise

[granite shard]

I think in tide of desolation it happened specifically bc the land of the dead was so fucked

But yeah I think that’s prob the best sort of grounded in universe answer we could get for it

[real cedar]

Perhaps it's like breaking the surface but not being able to swim any deeper than a foot, metaphysically speaking

[granite shard]

I’d love to see the explanation for death cheat tbh

Like we have the gar referencing cheating death

But last we saw she’s fully in the land of the dead snoozing on rotjaw and it doesn’t seem like she’s coming back

[sleek sphinx]

Looks like a new channel getting into hunt lore (haven’t watched so idk if its good)

https://youtu.be/UbBYdIuJLSs?si=h9VLQU0cKA6DDw6t

Oh wait nvm they’ve done stuff before

[real cedar]

Since they're not going back to Louisiana as the interview said, I wonder where else they'll go? 2nd Colorado map, or just skip straight to bouncing around the country? Pacific Northwest would be a solid biome.
Think they'll ever go international? I think it'd be too odd.

[rotund ferry]

Not going back as in the story is pretty much done there? We're getting the remastered maps I heard.

Pacific Northwest would be solid, but I'd love to see a high desert map. Snow map would be great also

[native marlin]

snow map >>>>>>

[real cedar]

Not going back in the sense of releasing more bayou maps is what the interview meant, no word on if we'll have stories take place in the bayou anymore.

[rotund ferry]

Oh cool, thanks!

[high stone]

Godammit

[empty basin]

Trailer was awesome!!! Enjoyed the effects when hitting a clue, the boss fight was great, man good job on that who ever made it!

[high stone]

Graphics look amazing of course! Ngl I started laughing when he parkoured on top of ScrapBeak for the old Legolas vs. Cave Troll manuever

Everyone seems pretty light hearted about the horrors

[real cedar]

This game has needed a proper mascot for years, maybe that trio is it. They get to represent the average Hunt gamer and get put on all the promotional material

[high stone]

It did need one?

[real cedar]

For marketing ,yeah. Anytime you need to put a face to a game. For instance, Crytek made this video a while back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcRWhqjW7-Y
To represent their games, they get Nomad, Marius... and random Tier 2 Hunter. Though I do notice it's the same girl that they put in the trio

[high stone]

Oh yeah

But we have a perfectly good Henry Monroe just sitting here

[real cedar]

The EASTER EGG HUNT has begun!
I'll be putting all discoveries in spoilers, first where it is, then a second spoiler for what it is.

[real dove]

werd

I wanna be there helping to find em >:(

silly job

[real cedar]

Easter Egg: ||Behind the waterfall in the southeast corner of the map|| ||Dead guy with a cowboy hat, a lamp, and a picture frame||
Easter Egg: ||Next to a pond in the northwest corner of the map, south-southwest of Blackthorn Stockyard|| ||Grunt Bob Ross has returned!||

[real cedar]

Uh... how do you read the bios of hunters you own???

[granite shard]

I was trying to find that too

[tiny plover]

Wait are you in rai?

[granite shard]

It doesn’t look like there’s a way?

Yeah update’s out

[real cedar]

Jesus christ this is awful

[granite shard]

Event lore is researcher/brewer/snare/hayali

The UI might be the worst thing they’ve done

[tiny plover]

Man I cant fuckin do timezones

[green pollen]

If they release more mountain maps, I hope they kinda fear their identity more towards mountain-gothic or somethin cause the southern gothic doesn’t apply no more

[tiny plover]

Give it time, it was Ass before, it'll be ass agian till you're used to it

[tiny plover]

Cowboy game :)

(Dont start thematic nuance dorks)

[granite shard]

Dude it’s really bad

if you load into the game or go to the home screen the default is not finding a match, but buying bundles

and there's SO much scrolling involved for everything

[tiny plover]

What about the funny tab

[granite shard]

I recorded this to send to friends for marshall brewer's voice and the fact that you can only read a little bit of the lore at a time before scrolling is insane

and there's still no ability to scrub through the audio timeline

[tiny plover]

Bruh

[granite shard]

her voice is amazing tho

[tiny plover]

They are going Hard with the VA work

[granite shard]

reminds me of sadie rdr2 I think

[tiny plover]

Really like mountain man and the new trio

[granite shard]

but that could also be bc I'm infected w rdr2 brainworms rn

[real cedar]

Even the grid search for your hunters sucks cause you go into grid mode, select a hunter, then press esc and instead of taking you back out of the loadout section like it says it will, it takes you out of grid view and you have to press it twice

[tiny plover]

Muscle memoryyyy, we'll get there (he says without seeing it yet)

[granite shard]

it's not just muscle memory dude

it's just bad UI

[real cedar]

You'll memorize the extra clicks eventually, but it's bad UX to expect players to have to

[granite shard]

hm you can only get 6 BP levels/week w the new challenge system

that's less than what it used to be yeah?

[upbeat kiln]

It's a recurring theme with Crytek unfortunately.

[tiny plover]

Im trying to think, it was at least 3-5

It was 1500 for some right, than 1000..? I cant remember...

[granite shard]

1500, 750x2, 1000x3

[real cedar]

Well at least you can read the blurbs for all your owned weapon skins, they didn't screw EVERYTHING up

[real dove]

It looks hella busy from what I've seen. Currently just going off other posted UIs tho

Even the dev videos it looks super busy

but alas

[real cedar]

Not only is it busy, it's so wasteful with its space. That event story up above is a great example. maybe 30% of the screen is actually being used there.

[granite shard]

Yeah like the old event UI was honestly perfect

[real cedar]

I'm gonna be in so much pain transcribing the story 💀

[granite shard]

You mean you don’t enjoy seeing two sentences at once?

[real cedar]

Like I might as well type it out rather than use image to text

[real cedar]

So are hunters pre-pledged or just boosted? The UI isn't very informative on what exactly the red arrows mean

[granite shard]

I’m not sure, I haven’t hopped into an actual not soul survivor match yet

[tiny plover]

If they were pledged wouldnt it say which pact?

Gotta be the boost..?

[real cedar]

Ah yeah it's the boost, you can only see it once you've recrutied the hunter

[granite shard]

God I want lists back so bad

I just had to equip a load out and

[tiny plover]

They have preloadouts still

[granite shard]

yes but it sucks to scroll through lol

you can see like two things at once

I want vertical lists back

[real cedar]

You can only use the first three loadouts if you don't want to add more clicks to your UX

[tiny plover]

They definitely need to add Menu keybinds so people can flip through tabs out they like

[granite shard]

If they just give the option to do vertical lists it would be better

Like there’s grid view, a list view would also be great

[tiny plover]

But idk guys, I know Im easy to please but... shrug? Ive been exploring and its just diffrent.

Is it Great? Meh, nah. But idk, other than them still not learning that scrolling through lists is peak, seems fine

Diffrent, wack in some ways, but like

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[granite shard]

I mean the issue is that the UI was already not great

And now they’ve made it clunkier without really solving any of the big issues it had before

[tiny plover]

Mm mm

[real cedar]

The hunter bio issue is enough for me to say it's a terrible UI. The event story just adds to it, and altogether it makes me angry that they removed the Library when before I was more accepting of that change. Lore is getting killed

[tiny plover]

My niceaties being said, the fact that it opens on the News Tab is Yucky. Like in theory I get it, in Practice "News" for hunt is Ads.

No. Yuck. Bad.

[tiny plover]

Having to go into the hunter store to read shit hurt

But they're focusing on expanding the world with Videos. All the VA work they've done on new trailers is evident of that

Its so weird

Two steps forward, a stumble and a half back

[real cedar]

We got so many new hunters between the bloodline ones and the prestige ones and none of them have bios.
John Victor doesn't have a bio!

[tiny plover]

Do you have vic? I cant read him apparently, think its hidden like dark tribute skins

[real cedar]

No, I'm not anywhere close to getting him

You can't read bios of skins you own, and you can't view hunters that you don't buy, such as prestige/bloodline skins and missed events. So they effectively don't have bios

[tiny plover]

Ohhhh ok so ONlY purchaseable hunters are visable here. And if you cant buy them, you cant see lore so...

God I wanna read/ shoot shit in general too but it is FERAL out there right now. Like Im gonna get myself in trouble if I butt in type energy

I just wanna talk about the new funny guns...

And the FUCKING PACT PERKS HOLY SHIT SUREFOOT

[real cedar]

For the new lore we do get, Grotesque is clearly inspired by Man in the Iron Mask, and Shade is definitely inspired by Clint Eastwood

[tiny plover]

Glad to get another Poncho Hunter. Hunt severly lacks in that department

Dunno how I feel about his 3rd eye glasses lol. And Im a big fan of the concept of 3rd eyes

Bro needs shades for his Darksight

[real cedar]

Oh ho ho ho they missed one in their blurb renaming.

Oh they've missed a few here and there. A really odd one is the Kid's pistols. Ash got fixed but Ember still says Caldwell Conversion Pistol

[tiny plover]

In shooting range rn doing some testing. They added the missing guns, thats nice

Also center cross hair is FUCKED

Like snap aiming is so weird with it on after being so used to lowered

[real cedar]

Yeah I was noticing that too, I wanted to play with centered but the aim animation just feels wrong

[tiny plover]

Its because our muscle memory is telling us to snap a certain way. Like up, to compensate for the lowered stance.

Like I can see how it can be good, but I think using it would be harder than I first thought lol

[real cedar]

Aww man

Searching for Winfield in the arsenal gives no results

[tiny plover]

Ok this is the last not lore thing Ill say before I transfer to an appropriate channel (this is gernerally the most civil tab and my happy place on the server lmao)

The new guns got me feeling a certain kind of way.

Like the kinda ways Id get banned for in describing in explicit detail.

New rifle is sick, new scopes are neat. Beartraps are a thing, thats cool

I mean dude the Carbine is a fucking Stock Loader Im so happy with it so far and I havent even shot a guy with it

[orchid tangle]

I'm thinking of buying through this pass since I move into uni in just a few days and will be extremely busy... Whats the general consensus on posting all the chapters on youtube? It always seems like people wait a bit for people to do their own thing for the most part, does it matter or can I just insta do it for people

[tiny plover]

I mean theres a lot of people who dont care about earning it. So to youtube is one thing.

But personally I like to try and earn the lore myself. Like if someone I know is posting shit, like one of the lore junkies, Ill just steer clear for a bit

[real cedar]

Go for it, plenty of people might be interested in reading the story without having to grind for weeks.
If you do it, make sure to scroll through the story on camera so we can read it as well (and I can transcribe it)

[tiny plover]

The two sides of autism

[real dove]

I'm likely to do the same

[orchid tangle]

I might just record it now because my friend thought this would be come out in 3 hours sharp and is still eeping so I have time to kill before getting into matches

[tiny plover]

Right? Did they say why it dropped earlier? Thought I got the timezone diffrences right...

[orchid tangle]

is there no spencer skin? :(

[real cedar]

I got so distracted by my rage that I forgot to update:
Easter Egg (first spoiler location, second spoiler content): ||A cabin close to the edge of the map, southeast of Terminus Railyard|| ||In the basement is a barred door. Breaking down the door reveals an occult altar as well as a shitton of dead rats littering the room and hanging from the ceiling. A human corpse is in a cage to the side.||

[orchid tangle]

why'd they make the chapter script scroller like 4x smaller

[real cedar]

Because they only care about console players that play from their couch 10ft away from the screen

I'm not even going to play today, just gonna update the compendium with what I can, cool off for a day, then try out the gameplay tomorrow. I'd 100% suck at the game if I tried to play while this peeved.

[orchid tangle]

bro sometimes they read the first little paragraph and sometimes they don't it's making my scrolling look so fucked

[tiny plover]

I tried going into update discussion. What a fucking mistake this is The Safe Haven.

At least its critisism and not blatent Churlish Whining.

[orchid tangle]

I'm very close to that lol

[tiny plover]

Let me run a bounty hunt game or two and Ill get back to you lol.

Soul survior works fine, hell, im getting 60fps relative to old hunt's 40. Maybe Im lucky agian this update.

[orchid tangle]

I haven't had a match yet, I'm sure gameplay is great

it's just trying to navigate these menus

[zenith perch]

Her voice is so good

[zenith perch]

Hayali is demented then?

[granite shard]

I’m assuming so

[orchid tangle]

hayali kills some demented

unless I wasn't paying attention correctly idk ngl a lot of these chapters aren't that great imo
the context we get on bounties is great tho

[zenith perch]

Anyone got any screen shots of gouge or shank? Their lore too?

[tiny plover]

Of course felis let them out btw

Actually cant help herself from "helping" lmao

[zenith perch]

Oh it's the same guy?

That's disappointing

[real cedar]

The skins are extremely similar too, not just thematically the same but like spot-the-difference identical

[zenith perch]

What's the full list of all the pact hunters if anyone's got that

[real dove]

I was gonna say, they actually look the same

:/

[zenith perch]

I was expecting a Morrigan/Midian kinda thing

[real dove]

same

We've had so many paired hunters lately

[orchid tangle]

I recorded everything gonna upload it in a bit... uhmm || we figure out who and how hellborn is and came about, and what those people do with bounty tokens which I think is really interesting... everything else feels like a lot of nothing happening, but maybe it'll be something big for people who care more about the lore ||

[real cedar]

There's no pre-pledged hunters this time, just event boosted:

Sea Wolf & Wight Raven
Buckshot & Snare
The Mountain Man
Mountie
The Cowl
Scourge: Midian & Morrigan
Grotesque: Gouge & Shank
Marshal Brewer
Sheriff Hardin
Carter
Vaquero
Shade: Drifter & High Noon
The Shroud

[zenith perch]

So Morrigan is event boosted?

[real cedar]

Yup, the previous UI that showed only one of the scourge as boosted was just incomplete

[zenith perch]

HELL YEAH

Morrigan is my favorite next to Gar

[real dove]

I love my bird queen

[zenith perch]

Midian and Morrigan have survived for three events

[zenith perch]

Best birds

Actually not a lot of Scourge mains

[real dove]

His goofy hair weirds me out

[zenith perch]

It's feathers

[real dove]

my buddy uses him but ngl that's the only time I see it

is it? I always throught it was his hair with the mask

[zenith perch]

Morrigan is just better looking tho

[zenith perch]

Yeah, it's feathers not hair

[real dove]

huh, will have to look when im home

still goofy, sorry 😅

[zenith perch]

Fair

How does the battlepass look? Good stuff?

[granite shard]

BP is good

You get fewer levels through challenges but you get more points per game

[zenith perch]

Pact charms look cool?

[orchid tangle]

I do think the skin selection is weird
no skin from the rival trauma but one for the normal rival

like why

[real cedar]

The charms are kinda good this time around, the blurbs connect to some of the old hunters like Redneck and Marshal Brewer

[real cedar]

Did any of the new additions get skins?

[orchid tangle]

doesn't look like it

not through the BP anyway it's all just old guns

like I'm sure people would've preferred a skin for the spencer over a railroad hammer...

[zenith perch]

Rival trauma!?!?

[zenith perch]

What's the demented one look like

[zenith perch]

AMAZING

Imagine poison shells for shotguns

[real cedar]

A small animal skull part of a ritual to summon the Sculptor

[zenith perch]

That's sounds fucking amazing

Right replace Eye Gouger as my favorite charm

Might

[tiny plover]

Actually baffeling when you think about it, especially with the whole "most of the demented pack beefing it in the LotD" part

[zenith perch]

They're built different

[tiny plover]

New charms look great, hope people use them. Ive always liked charms. On some guns /charm combos its a lil bulky, but there are good ones too. Like the coin, or cardinal

[zenith perch]

I hope Gar returns one day

[tiny plover]

Still chillin with Lynch I fink

And Mama Rot

[zenith perch]

I missed Arget Crown cause I got burnt out from ToC and I felt really bad for missing it until I saw it in game

It's so bulky and ugly looking

[tiny plover]

Mmm. I liked the scarab. They've always lightly touched Egypt and the surrounding regions for pieces and ideas for Hunt

Cool to see them dive into the aestetic more

[zenith perch]

The Sinners have always been a part of the lore, i hope they become a bigger part

Cause in the beta lore, they all came to Louisiana to hunt an "American Djinn" in the bayou

[tiny plover]

I hope so. I feel like Crytek shys away from religious groups in hunt in the past few years. Which I get, but its a shame that you have to wall on egg shells around the topic

When was the last Warrior of Christ ass hunter? Or a voodoo inspired hunter?

[zenith perch]

The Penitent

[real dove]

They've done a hard turn from the religious stuff

[zenith perch]

That's the last one I remember

[tiny plover]

He barely counts, feel like he leans more on the Crazy Guy aestetic than anything

He doesnt fight for Jesus or whatever, he fights to punish himself

[zenith perch]

Demented are kinda religious cukr vibe

Cult

[zenith perch]

True

[tiny plover]

Yeeeah but like Made Up Orignal Cult stuffs

[zenith perch]

Hunt being review bombed cause of the UI

People review bomb over anything

[tiny plover]

Which sucks because it feels like a pretty logical conclusion for someone to come to in 1896.

Demons are real? Crusade time. I mean ffs people TODAY in the USA ALONE still call for fucking holy wars

[real cedar]

Man this is weird. They went back and edited a bunch of the old skins blurbs to change weapon names but then this new skin The Motherlode is still calling it the Winfield M1876 Centennial.

[zenith perch]

Insert DEUS VULT memes

[tiny plover]

"Uuugh, I hate having to navigate with my keyboard "

[tiny plover]

The Gold one yeah?

[real cedar]

Ye

[tiny plover]

Saw some guy with it, thought it was a bugged vandel at first

Looks great

[zenith perch]

Is the chain pistol a BP weapon or BB weapon

[tiny plover]

Bb, the spikey bois stuff is all bb

[zenith perch]

Watching Psychoghost stream and 1896 looks so good

[tiny plover]

Bp is egypt and tracker, with a lil demented thrown in i think

[zenith perch]

Damb, hope it's not too far in

Is The Shroud a demented after all do you guys think?

[tiny plover]

Dude they put the carbine at 15 they know wtf they're doing there lul

[tiny plover]

Hard to say unless he shows up in the lore later. Havent even gotten 1 yet.

[zenith perch]

🫡

[tiny plover]

But no? Maybe? Im betting on neutral party

[real cedar]

The description doesn't seem like it, I think she's just cursed with undeath

[zenith perch]

Keep me posted cause I'm interested

Stuck at work

I'm foaming at the mouth guys

[tiny plover]

Oh im getting shade and drifter mixed up

[zenith perch]

I need hunt showdown in my veins

I've never been more addicted to the game before

[tiny plover]

Hope you dont have issues. My Junker seems to be running it ok, better than old hunt even

[zenith perch]

A lot of the people complaining it seems don't meet the specs

[zenith perch]

Interesting

[zenith perch]

Death really likes cursing people with undeath

[tiny plover]

The Lord Of Death, an Eldrich Being Beyond Human Comprehension:

"Its just a funny lil prank, relax "

[real cedar]

This time it was the Pharaohs who did it, for robbing their tombs in order to sell relics to foreign Egyptologists

[tiny plover]

Wait

Does that confirm Egyptian gods exist? Or at least some facet of them?

[real cedar]

Nah, just that curses do

[tiny plover]

Cursed based on Egyptian religious beliefs
Plus, we already know from Wake, Stories Hold Power

Im tellin ya, we are dreaming these demons into existance, WH40K style

[zenith perch]

Hunt is in the Warhammer universe

Also watched a video on the BP, stuff looks really good

[high stone]

Does it have a swift reload? One of the cool things about Spencers is they were used with a “blakeslee box”, which is just filled with ammo tubes for swift reload

[granite shard]

No variants rn

[tiny plover]

Its got Krag reload

Bullets in between the fingers

It looks sick

Also medium ammo for context

Works with Iron Eye

[high stone]

Too bad, it’s kind of always a “swift”

[tiny plover]

Sorta kinda? Irl sure but in game? Its more like you just take out the ram rod rather than it being a magazine tube

[restive patrol]

https://steamusercontent-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2394312384368221932/962982DC1FBE16D4A4FCAD9701AA8E75066C4D7F/ Here's a full video showcase of the spencer for visual context

[high stone]

Thanks!

[orchid tangle]

crytek would rather die than add the gun like that when they can make a swift version later

[high stone]

Haha yeah

[high stone]

Oh yeah that’s the mag tube

[zenith perch]

That looks so good

[high stone]

What kind of damage?

[real cedar]

Oh man there's actual hieroglyphics on the hive bomb skin 💀 there's no way it actually translates to something, surely

[restive patrol]

145

[zenith perch]

For medium ammo!?

[high stone]

Sounds about right, I thought it would be a heavy medium with poor range

[restive patrol]

Yep

[high stone]

Yeah why not just large? Wow

Thx for the info!

[icy brook]

I think medium is a good place for any of the original Spencer cartridges

[high stone]

Yeah, they’re heavy, but not as much propellant

[icy brook]

A .56 diameter projectile with a max load of 56 grains isn’t going to be screeching fast by any means

[high stone]

Kind of a weird mix as far as Hunt ammo categories would be concerned

[orchid tangle]

I'm just annoyed we got another scope above bullet ejector gun

[high stone]

That is baffling

Oh well

Looking forward to that lore dump video!

[orchid tangle]

I'll have it up today if nobody beats me to it

[granite shard]

uh