lore-discussion

[rare dirge]

I agree

Very dapper

[tiny plover]

We do like the big trech coats / overcoats

[rare dirge]

Oversized clothing >>>>

[rotund ferry]

I would love to see some colabs with other games

I mean look at these things.

[granite shard]

aw RIP just a rando

still a cool design

[tiny plover]

Its ok, insider tips are red herrings in disguise. She's actually Super plot relevant and Rach is throwing us off the sent for Crytek

[granite shard]

Haha totally

[tiny plover]

The Price of Notoriety..

[clever thistle]

Has there been any lore surrounding Steel Eyed besides the snippet we get from his bio?

From how little I see him being played or talked about in general it seems almost everyone has forgotten about him

[random lava]

maybe I lied and it's secretly the next main character at the end of desolation's wake

who knows

[devout cedar]

Exactly, that's the Nixatek I know

[topaz pivot]

Does anyone know what requirements the game will ask for when they release engine 5?

[tiny plover]

Sows misinformation as easily as they breathe

[noble scarab]

He’s not been mentioned besides his snippet and his pistols description

[warm quartz]

This guy doesn't look like a maniac

He even sensibly bring double trueshots

[slim star]

Wasn’t one of the “stories” in the land of the dead involving Hardin leading children out of a train to fight?

Last trailer we see a train and hardin, just saying

[uneven swallow]

any relation to the steel eye, the most meta piece of equipment in game

[tiny plover]

No like, thats something Hardin 100% did. Like, he's already done it. People just used trains a lot in the 1800s

[uneven swallow]

We should be using them more now too

[tiny plover]

Unironically yes

[warm quartz]

I think he was just sitting there hoping the train would be full of orphans

[humble ridge]

In the Desolation's Wake Teaser we can see The Pearl skin for Caldwell conversion. In description it reads: "In honor of Pearl Hart: outlaw, criminal, and stagecoach robber."

She was a Canadian-born outlaw of the American Old West

Could it be a hint?

[tiny plover]

I've heard worse connections certainly

[tiny plover]

Oh for like a day an a half I thought you meant the guy I was talking too, ie indirectly jabbing him by calling him a pedo lol

And not the confirmed Child Soldier Groomer in-game

[slim star]

[silver cargo]

Wait, did any Salter brothers survive the events of HUNT ?

[slim star]

I think Charlie? Not sure if he’s dead yet though-

[prisma flare]

say how many hunters are cannonically dead? aside from like black coat, and the two drowned guys

[granite shard]

The black coat is not dead

[granite shard]

This is the status of everyone I made from towards the beginning of tide of desolation

Kevin’s also in one of the died and came back tiers— the moon won’t let him die fully

The gar also feels more fully dead at this point

[rotund ferry]

infernal fellas got ambushed at the end yeah, no confirmed deaths though

[granite shard]

He’s not dead in the way people tend to think he is

But yeah I wouldn’t be surprised to see that they all died there

[rotund ferry]

dw, he’s the black coat, he’ll figure it out

[prisma flare]

I thought he was killed by the two kids? Huh

[granite shard]

The story where they did that isn’t entirely accurate and is noted in lore to be exaggerated by the author

[warm quartz]

Why is Killian presumed dead again?

[granite shard]

The gar stabs him through the lungs with a bomb lance at the end of tide of shadows

Feels like a fairly deathly blow to me but it’s not confirmed

[warm quartz]

So? Everyone stabs everyone in hunt

It's how they communicate in this line of work

[celest temple]

Ok I have a question

Is the Scarecrow, currently, the only hunter that actively and intentionally supports the Sculptor?

[tiny plover]

Nah, most of the demented pack support the Sculptor is some way or another. The Scarecrow is real direct, where as many of the other members of the pact are in it for more of a selfish desire, usually something to the effect of becoming a new demi-god type being

Butcher before he got killed, the Cowl, the Bee Keeper, and Id argue the Scapebeak siblings but Im not 100% just because they havent spoken a lot or been given the oppertunity to indirectly show their intents

But thats just legendries. In theory, there are dozens of other hunters committed to supporting the Sculptor. Heck, Im entirely leaving out the Night Seer's Doomsday Cult, which isnt the same but is closer to the Demented on the fuckin Political Aliment Chart of hunt than other groups

[tiny plover]

Smalls, do we have a collection of all the old lore from prior events on the wiki or is it still beans?

I know individual schmucks take photo collections, but I dont think we have a public, centralized source

IE: Half the reason a lore channel is useful lol

[granite shard]

Everything through tide of corruption is on the wiki, I’d imagine that tide of desolation is there now but I haven’t checked yet

Tide of desolation is on the wiki now

[tiny plover]

Yeah I just checked. Guess my Beans Bias stemmed from Past Me being lazy and wanting succinct lore summaries and not, yknow, reading pngs for hours to get caught up. But Im missing too much now to not dive back into old event lore I skipped before I became a bona fide Lore Fiend

Shame there's nothing from Scap's event, thought there was lore drops then but I cant remember

[celest temple]

Good to know, thank you

So the Scarecrow is the most direct in support for the Sculptor, correct?

Also how many of the aforementioned Sculptor supporters actually acknowledge the existence of the Sculptor?

[tiny plover]

Hard to say. Earlier in the Story, Id say most folks that are supporting the Sculptor are doing so unwittingly. He'll, Id make the same argument for people actively supporting him since the corruption tends to make you go crazy. The intentional support of people knowledgeable in the Other Side and whatnot came later, with the nature of corruption and the Big Names in play (Sculptor, God of the Dead, the Moon, etc) being better understood by locals who were already there and by Professional Magic Nerds that would travel to the Bayou over time.

Technically, Louisiana isn't the only place dealing with Other World's Bullshit, its just EXTRA bad in the Buyou at the time. So in theory, in a global sense among hunters and magic practitioners, he's acknowledged, but thats reaching without a source

I wouldn't go so far as to say he's the most direct, but in his own personal lore, he's definitely stated as one of the more direct peoples. That being said, is he more direct than the dorks Cosplaying as the monsters they hunt? Idk.

Like, Kevin and the Moon? Tight, directly linked, Moon has him on Speed Dial. Scarecrow and the Sculptor would be more like... some kid Uber-stanning influencers by buying their shitty energy drinks. But replace energy drinks with The End of the World as we know it.

Like, we get it, they're cool, but relax, the Sculptor doesnt know your name Simp.

[celest temple]

Lmfao

Well I think I'd be a simp for the Sculptor too if I was spared by him

Maybe we'll get more lore later one, possibly with the Scarecrow being one of the Sculptor's main lackeys

Though at that point the Scarecrow would just be Scourge from the Transformers Beast Wars movie, and the Sculptor would just be Unicron

At that point, the Scarecrow would just be the bottom bitch who does all the Sculptor's bidding and then is like "I did it" and the Sculptor is like "yeah, you did, prepare to be devoured now"

Idk I'd still root for the Scarecrow

Gotta love a cool villain

Ok I got another question

Where does the Revenant align?

[tiny plover]

Uh, Good

He's good

[celest temple]

AHA? Moon Cult? Mr. Chary's ... group? Bone Doctor's doom cult? Avengers? Justice League? League of Evil? Masters of the Universe?

[tiny plover]

He was raised by the Witch Doctor and his Voodoo cult, which seemingly is one of the better pacts when it comes to who is "The Good Guys"

[celest temple]

Ah gotcha

[tiny plover]

Nah nah, Bone Doctor is voodoo, Night Seer is the Doom cult

[celest temple]

Ah I see

So he's like Unaligned Good?

[tiny plover]

But yeah, Sculptor is this big bad, eldritch being beyond human comprehension. Its like praying to Cthulhu, he doesnt fucking care all that much, even if your on his side. You are beneth him sorta beat.

[tiny plover]

Havent seen any lore about him in a while but yeah. Sorta like the Drowned People, his whole thing is redemption, to "Make the Best of a Bad Hand" to quote the game

[celest temple]

So are the Private Eye, Hackshaw Jack, Sheriff Hardin, Marshall Brewer, and the Mountie all part of a lawman group?

[tiny plover]

No..? Kinda..? They've associated a bunch because of their professions (Dont know about Mountie, havent read on him enough yet), but for the most part they kinda dont like one another. Hardin trusts no one, and is generally a bastard despite the good he does. Brewer is a little better, but saint she is not. Private Eye is closer associated with Hardin and is generally better than her mentor, and Hackshaw is kinda just, around? Like, he's popped up once or twice but for the most part he's aloof, doing his own shit.

[celest temple]

Gotcha

[tiny plover]

Like, the Law brought them all here. Life and the nature of the buyou tended to get in the way

[celest temple]

It'd be cool if they formed their own faction, like a faction of Lawbringers

[tiny plover]

That and as a rule, most Hunters are psychopaths or just jerks, even the 'good' ones. Not all, but many if not most

Thats the problem though, they cant agree all that much on like, methods or... ethics

[celest temple]

I see

Understandable

Ok

Is the black coat dead?

I heard somewhere that he was killed

[tiny plover]

Yesn't? Like, for a while we thought he was dead but then he reappeeared

[slow pebble]

Who knows man death means nothing in this game's universe

[celest temple]

True lol

[slow pebble]

There's like no tension in these lore dumps

who cares lol just necro

[celest temple]

Is the Black Coat Sofia's father?

[tiny plover]

Yeah with zombies, litches, and people deadass wandering into the land of the dead and comming back out

Na na

Black Coat is the father of the twins, lore relivent actors from the base game's lore

He killed their mom

Allegedly.

Probably.

[celest temple]

So who are the twins? Are they legendary Hunters?

[tiny plover]

Nah, like many lore people that seem cool, no skin

Just vaguly important people crytek put in the backround to potentially be used later sorta beat

[celest temple]

Gotcha

So there is a possibility that we could see them at some point

Probably in a dlc or something

[granite shard]

he was ressurected by "the night speaker"

someone we haven't seen anywhere else yet but seems connected to the night seer's cult

[granite shard]

the black coat was killed off in Bad As They Seem which is an in-universe fictionalized retelling of the lives of the twins. various researchers notes mention that not everything in BATS is reliable and often questions the source. the black coat showing up again in tide of corruption shows that his death was likely an exaggeration by the author

[tiny plover]

Wait wait wait, hold on, have I been reading revent's lore wrong this whole time? Thought he was Voodoo related. I mean, par for the course but goddamn.

[granite shard]

as for his status after tide of corruption... he could have died in the big shoot out in the end but nothing was confirmed

[granite shard]

there's a trailer that has the bone doctor involved in his resurrection but that was likely just a stand in for his resurrection. his lore doesn't mention the bone doctor at all

during devil's moon his DLC was also included in the bundle for the infernal pact, whereas the bone doctor's group all was in the lunar pact bundle so it's a potential that his alignment is with the night seer's cult but we haven't rly gotten much of him

[tiny plover]

Ahh, smart smart. And I think you're right about the trailer bit, sort of a personal Mandela eff.

[tiny plover]

Hopefully. Ive been waiting for a Lynch skin for ages. Disadvantage or no, a Lynch skin with her White hair would look sick. I think the only white haired hunters are either old or Daughter of Decay, but she has like, moldy dreads I think

Like, ya hype her up for 6 years, but no skin? Come maaaannn

[tiny plover]

BATS was written by Hardin, no? Or am I confusing the author with the Immolator's Dime Novel author

Under a pen name right?

[granite shard]

collins has not been confirmed to be hardin

[tiny plover]

mm

Must be misremembering another thing then. I think he has done some writing under a pseudonym in universe.

Key word being Think

[warm quartz]

Why would you even think that?

[tiny plover]

Im stupid.

Primarily.

[warm quartz]

Does Hardin seem like a guy who secretly writes fanfics about his friends?

[tiny plover]

But I vaguly remebering hearing it from somewhere

Yes.

Unironically.

Its his greatest shame

Moreso than the Child Crusade

[warm quartz]

Doubt he even feels bad about that

John "Whack a child with a mallet" Hardin

John "Late term abortion" Hardin

John "7 years equals 7 ounces of lead" Hardin

[tiny plover]

Thus my point stands, lol. Besides, while most of the fanfic writers Ive met arent completely emotionally devoid sociopaths, I wouldnt put it past all of them....

Actually depending on the Fanfics Id borderline be surprized if they were anything but a sociopath lol

[amber harbor]

You mean Hayden Collins?

[tiny plover]

Hold on, pulling up wiki to double check my facts instead of just, yknow, shooting shit halfass-ly

[tiny plover]

Yeah thats his name. Combing through wiki for more info on him, but not seeing much other than the name.

Which leads, yknow, nowhere.

[amber harbor]

He also appears in the Water Devil masteries, he sends the letters

[tiny plover]

Bit of a pretty obvious Pen Name if it is the Sheriff. Probably just a local?? Hard to say.

[amber harbor]

I looked in this doc

Has almost everything in one place so you can Ctrl+F it

[tiny plover]

Ooh, good resource, thanks.

[tiny plover]

Is this an active doc being updated or just from 2019 and before

[amber harbor]

I think most recent was the middle tides event

Doesnt have the katana and the like

But I'm the one who updates it, so I guess better get to it

[tiny plover]

Lol, thank you kindly for your service then. Think Im still going to grind out the new notes legit, run a couple Duel Dolch Deadeye + Katana builds to force grind xp, but if I get lazy I know where to turn

Throw it in the channel again for others if you get around to it for the newer folks

Thanks in advance ❤️

[amber harbor]

It's in the pinned comments

But it got buried a long time ago

[tiny plover]

Dude, people dont know how to open tabs and pinned comments on any media, let alone discord

ie me. That people is me.

But thank you for letting me know lol

[warm quartz]

It's so outdated it's insulting

[real dove]

Don't be a jerk. Not everyone has time to keep up with stuff. Howabout you put in the suggestions to fix it instead of ripping on the one person who keeps it updated?

[warm quartz]

Nobody keeps it updated

[rotund ferry]

its time for crytek to hire a "lore specialist"

their only job is to analyse lore with the community and put together a massive wiki/book/journal

[warm quartz]

Come now, we goobers do that for free

[rare dirge]

We as the lore discussion channel should make a good effort to update the wiki

At some point

[rotund ferry]

r/huntlore when

[warm quartz]

When there's enough lore

And a few urelated stories

With different tone and setting

[warm quartz]

What's the irl counterpart?

[icy brook]

An original production Marlin 1895

But the lever is incorrect

[rotund ferry]

which part is incorrect, i’m not exactly seeing it

[icy brook]

The lever should be more square, the lever in the model is closer to the modern production 95s

[rare dirge]

Pretty sick either way

Spitzer would be a VERY funny ammo type to allow in this gun

I’m secretly hoping they do that

[icy brook]

So you can chain detonate and explode

[rotund ferry]

ah that makes sense, i was looking at images then realised those are modern replicas and such

does it function much differently or is it just the shape

[icy brook]

Yeah the modern production Marlins are junk, I’m sure a fanboy will swoop in to white knight mere seconds after me hitting send

Just the shape of the lever

[rotund ferry]

fair fair, wonder why they went with the new design

maybe they thought it would be better for levering? idk

[icy brook]

Probably to look more like Marlin’s big loop shit

[rotund ferry]

it does make it stand out

it was the first thing most people probably looked at

the big lever

[empty basin]

Bigger lever loop for wearing gloves maybe?

Is there any lore on why the waterdevils leave the ducks alone? Just curious, asked in general the other day and was told "No one Fs with the duck's." Ok, based, but is there any reason in the lore?

[icy brook]

I’m being pedantic but I am excited for it, new guns are good, it makes Mako a new company in the lore

[rare dirge]

Maybe the energy used to energy gained from ducks ain’t worth it especially since the ducks could…. Just fly away… so they probably know they won’t be able to catch them off guard and even if they do it’s probably not very filling

[empty basin]

Not worth munching on a small duck when an unsuspecting hunter is right around the bend, eh? Good call, thank you for the response

[icy brook]

It’s good hunt uses sporting rifles that usually get overshadowed by military rifles in other games

[rare dirge]

Most hunters don’t come from a military background most are just cowboys or just random citizens sometimes a hunting rifle is all they would realistically have

[icy brook]

^

[empty basin]

Truth to the idea it's better to arm yourself with what you know and are comfortable with. Imagine some 1890's cowboy or farm hand, without some serious training something like the automat mosin would be out of their realm, and in a bayou setting would easily lead to fouling, jamming, getting them killed

[clever thistle]

fuck no

spitzer is broken as is.

[high stone]

They might need to hire someone to re-write the lore before they can get that far

(I kinda have my fingers crossed they’ll reset all the lore, and match the tone of 2018 Hunt, when they do the engine update )

[neon pelican]

lol idc about the lore of this game, i just like shooting people and running their pockets

[high stone]

In Lore Discussion?

[warm quartz]

It was a joke about tube magazines

Where spitzer's sharp ending would rest peacefully against next bullet's primer, ready to have an explosive intercourse

[clever thistle]

i let my hatred for spitzer override my social hint detection

its so over

[rare dirge]

oh.... uhhhh

yeahhh

thats what i meant

it wasnt because the idea of a hitscan winfeild was funny or anything

no lets go with the smart gun knowledge joke

[vivid crystal]

stick

[noble scarab]

Stick lore

[tiny plover]

Next Hunt MacGuffin: Da STICK

Very Important to the plot. For uh, reasons.

[rocky bloom]

Splintered baseball bat Named after the streamer Hermit

[vivid crystal]

The squealing stick

[tiny plover]

The Moaning Murder Rod

I tried to make a peepus joke and automod blocked me. This is fair and acceptable.

Im forever grateful it gives me another chance to edit my horrid messages, give me a second to reconsider my actions and doesnt outright ban me, lol

[visual finch]

👀

There is always time

[tiny plover]

Amon Plz

Dont bait me into doing a silly

I beg I beg

[visual finch]

[tiny plover]

New event Trailer just dropped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV56-FEGtx0

Sheriff's VA, assuming thats him and not the Tailcoat man, is so good

[frozen portal]

is the new guy from AHA?

[tiny plover]

Also looks like the Mysterious Benefactors are done fucking around and actually arming the Hunters and the Law

[tiny plover]

I dont think we even know if he's specifically AHA? Might just be a representative of the people who buy bounty tokens

Which arent nessisarily the same people

[frozen portal]

hardin said something like "they we're always watching" and "whyd they sent him"

so hes from a known faction in the game that watches in the background

but theres very small chance hes from AHA because new guy's english

[tiny plover]

Why I tend to lean on the Mysterious Benefactors angle

[frozen portal]

i think he spoke in one of the lore entries last event

[tiny plover]

Briefly yeah, to daughter of decay

[granite shard]

tbh I don't know if this is tailcoat guy

they might be two different people

[tiny plover]

He also knew about her family, which is like... how commen knowledge is that??

[granite shard]

I wasn't expecting hardin to sound like that but it works really well for him

[tiny plover]

But Smalls, he's wearing a tail coat. People cant wear the same clothes Smalls. You know that

Also yeah his voice rocks

Southern Gentleman style

[frozen portal]

imagine if hunters in game have different voices instead of the generic male hurt female hurt sound

[granite shard]

is that a tailcoat tho? it feels more like a long coat

[tiny plover]

Isnt a tailcoat defined by just having the two little triangle style flaps on the back??

Hold on

[granite shard]

tailcoats I've always thought of as having the front shorter and the back longer

this is what comes to mind for me when I think tailcoat

[tiny plover]

Yeah just longer, though it was specifically those with the pointed tails

[granite shard]

he could be tailcoat guy but I think he might be someone new

[frozen portal]

tea = english = new guy

[tiny plover]

Seems like a tailcoat to me

Hard to tell though

[tiny plover]

At the very least he's quite dapper.

QUITE dapper.

[frozen portal]

it looks like something that hardin wears but with peak lapels

[granite shard]

yeah

I WANT TO KNOW WHO SHE IS THO

[frozen portal]

maybe hunters are busy hunting other hunters (KDA/MMR boosting) instead of extracting bounties, the buyers are getting impatient because less bounties = higher price in the market so theyre sending the new guy to hunt

[granite shard]

HELLO???? WHO ARE YOU MA'AM????

[untold lodge]

Desolations Wake is setting up for the new map. New guy puts down what looks like a map then leaves the house. Hardin goes over to look at it.

[tiny plover]

Someone needs to compare the clearest section of the maps presented in the trailer to the maps we already have

Id do it but Im not at my comp

[tiny plover]

Beekeeper's Daughter...? Complete shot in the dark

The only reason I say that is because of the thorns, which isnt even bug related, but nature themed

That and I think the beekeeper is black...? Not exactly easy to tell

[granite shard]

yeah the beekeeper is black

[tiny plover]

Ok I was looking at her model and of fucking course all her skin is covered she's a beekeeper

But yeah 85% sure

[granite shard]

her voice actress is black I'm fairly certain

I don't think this is the beekeeper's daughter, but she could be

[tiny plover]

Now, lets be clear. Is this profiling. Yes.

But what is lore searching if not a long series of profilings

Yknow.

Smalls back me up haha

Haha...

haa.....

For legal and ethical purposes this was sarcasm

[warped finch]

Sure...

[untold lodge]

ok so the map he puts down in this shot is Lawson, specifically Prison, Sweetbell, Parish and Windy Run. Is Nicholls Prison where Hardin got some of his recruits? It'd explain the deputy badges

[tiny plover]

Yeah that matches up. Shame, was hopping for DeSalle trials

[warped finch]

David said they are not doing trials anymore

[untold lodge]

I remember the community manager played with RatchaZ once and was asked about trials. He said its never happening. The work required vs the demand isnt worth it

[tiny plover]

Fair enough, but that doesnt mean I dont want it unfortunately. 😦

Wish it did but

[untold lodge]

I still joke about waiting for Nightmare Mode. It was on the roadmap when Hunt was in early access. Got quietly removed a few months later and the devs never talked about it

[warped finch]

There used to be Crafting and Tarot Cards on that roadmap XD

Ahhh the good ol' days

[rare dirge]

Bro

March 6th

So soon

[pine blade]

What nightmare mode?

[rare dirge]

How are they getting these events out so soon

[untold lodge]

They never gave any information about it. It was just on the roadmap then got removed one day. Just an idea the devs had then scrapped

[strange bane]

They are some chads

I’ve been digging the story they tell lore wise thus far, the setting is so unique. Can’t wait for Desolations Wake

Cheers all

[pine blade]

If I can speculate
It must be the mode where AI's are harder but a lot of people where crying during nightime since they are afraid of ghost, they give up the idea of making the game harder

[strange bane]

I would personally be okay with a separate mode for horror focused play

But that’s just me haha

[untold lodge]

Maybe. If I had to base it on other games that have a "hardcore" mode it probably meant no HUD and AI did more dmg.

[pine blade]

They made the decision to make this game appeal to newer players and keep it alive so I can't really argue with that part
We need more players 🤣

[strange bane]

I can’t argue at all lol

It’s my favorite game multiplayer wise

Imo , best on console and most unique. It welcomes everyone and every play style. Yeh the meta is there and KD pearl clutchers are there but it’s still incredible

Plus some people are more competitive, so hell still valid in it’s own right

[tiny plover]

If I had to compare it to anything, it'd be tf2. Interesting world/characters, decent game loop, and a healthy amount of variability to make sure theres some playstyle for anyone

[strange bane]

Based

Tf2 is so classix

Integral

[tiny plover]

You can Sweat, you can Meme, you can make friends, you can BM each other all game just to get hit with a GG on your steam profile

[strange bane]

Haha

[tiny plover]

Its all there

[strange bane]

Exactly

Never left , just was brought back again and again

Like an immortal essence of beautiful game design

[untold lodge]

Back to the lore. Is there anywhere I can read a summary of Tide of Desolation? I've read it but I don't really get what happened. All 3 pacts went to the land of the dead and only the drowned got transported back out by Finch. That right?

[royal shadow]

is there any place i can find all the lore entries from previous events?

[strange bane]

Its left ambiguous

And yes sir phantom

YouTube, there are a few people whom uploaded them

Spoiler warning!!!

[royal shadow]

thank you very much :)

[strange bane]

Ofc

We love casting spells

[tiny plover]

There's also the Wiki if you just want to read yourself

[strange bane]

Based and real

[royal shadow]

oh i didn't think they uploaded all of them there

[tiny plover]

Its transcription is.. ok

[royal shadow]

then i'll just read them myself

i prefer it tbf

[tiny plover]

not 100% but like. 98.5% accurate

[strange bane]

Right but I want to believe that more people than the drowned survived

[tiny plover]

I think everyone got out, anyone still alive anyway. Drowned, Crazy folks, all of em

How else would the beekeeper have gotten her stories out about events that were happening in real time?

Was she writing them mid battle? lol

[strange bane]

Captain Laffite’s fate was either an almost heroic end or am ambiguous rebirth

Haha fair

[untold lodge]

I just remember FInch mentioning the moon and I thought. Don't you tease my Crytek, if my boy Kevin is coming back you say it to my face

[strange bane]

I wish

I wish Kevin would come back

He smiled

Redneck gritted his teeth

[tiny plover]

Im sure he'll be back.. takes a hit from the copium tanks

Just like Lynch came back...

[strange bane]

Lmaooooo

[tiny plover]

Yeah..

[strange bane]

The copium of my tank is but a memory of a fume

[untold lodge]

Oh right Lynch thats who I meant, Finch is the leader that chary drowned? got the names mixed up

[strange bane]

Right right right

[tiny plover]

Also I dont know per say who sent them back. I've read it a couple times, but it sorta just happened after the God-Thing being born was killed. Coulda been Finch, Lynch, the rules of the Land of the Dead itself, its not super clear

[untold lodge]

I was kinda bumbed out that beekeeper was another random crazy lady. I hoped she was the daughter of the first Hive, wouldve been a nice callback to book of monsters

[strange bane]

Finch got blamed for rotjaws arrival and the outbreak of the sculptor in Louisiana

[tiny plover]

Then Chery got a hold of him and I think Gojoed him

Banished to The Hole

[strange bane]

Indeed

[tiny plover]

Yep, even though it was just Mr.Chery being tricky

[strange bane]

Exactly

[tiny plover]

But I think Finch is Immortal? Theres mentions of it in the book

So in theroy he could come back, just gotta... fish him out I guess..?

[strange bane]

Would take a hell of a bait

[tiny plover]

Same, I was really sad when they made her the Protag of the Crazy People in the last event. In hindsight, many of the narrators from previous events we not the Top Dog of their respective pact. But she's just kinda... some lady? I mean, the LOD event clearly showed some Bug God thing being made, so that connects, but other than that...?

Like, why not just make the Cowl the narrator for the Crazies, he's the Big Bad alledgedly

Like the Butcher's Cleaver before him

[strange bane]

Yep yep

Midian and Morrgan executed cleaver

Love birds of doom

[untold lodge]

I'm really surprised they didn't bring in the Bone Doctor. Felis gets a cameo but you'd think the guy that made a zombie was interested in the LOD

[strange bane]

I thought so too

[tiny plover]

Like I said, looking back, I think of Fire Marshal. Cool skin, interesting lore, but not that important. Story doesnt really get wrapped up. And thats bc Mr.Cherry is the important one

[strange bane]

Morrigan*

He croaked right?

[tiny plover]

Reduced to a backround character

[strange bane]

Mr chary? Aint he in the moon now

[tiny plover]

Maybe? Unclear, he's probably still kicking, in this world or the next. Probably wrestling with the moon RN

[strange bane]

Don’t that mean our boy Kevin gets revenge rn ? As we speak lol

[tiny plover]

Thats assuming the Moon Wins...

[strange bane]

Haha

[tiny plover]

And if they needed a fucking 14 year old to save them...

Idk man

[strange bane]

Well y’all know where my bet is

[tiny plover]

Fair as

[untold lodge]

I thought he was in the LOD. The way I read it, mr chary is in over his head and his hunger for power left him chasing things he could never achieve

[strange bane]

Fair point

I see you both as right tbh

Im just a rabbit in the mine

[tiny plover]

Thats the idea, but that doesnt mean he's out of the picture. Just like Lynch can have some sway over the normal world, Im sure he'll find some way to kick back at the hunters that screwed with his plans

Or just go straight to punching the moon

One or the other

[untold lodge]

man the moon trilogy really got shafted in terms of lore. Crytek just went "the moon is sentient. Anyways look at this rain!"

[tiny plover]

Yeah....

[strange bane]

Haha

[tiny plover]

The problems with waiting 5 years to add a fucking Alligator to a Louisianan Swamp

lmao

[strange bane]

Lmaoooo

[tiny plover]

Silly silly germans

Oh fuck ZEP DONT

I BEG

[strange bane]

?

Bad , what hast thine done

[tiny plover]

Phew

[strange bane]

Is it 4 spam? Or

We love lore lore lore

We lore all the time

#hunt lore

[tiny plover]

DMed you about it

Just taking precautions lol

[mystic grotto]

It would be great if we could get some more visual lore. The new trailer isn’t really doing anything.

[tiny plover]

I mean, its just a trailer. If you reveled everything, whats the point?

Half the fun for some people is speculation

[rare dirge]

With lore discussion

I wonder if it’s really speculation

People here are pretty on the nose

[tiny plover]

Depends. I think you saw my "Ghost Girl" take when she was just behind a wooden frame. Some speculations are... weaker than others lol

[rare dirge]

Well if it wasn’t for nitpicking and whatnot

We wouldn’t have the on the nose speculations

[tiny plover]

Gotta ask all the questions before you start asking the right ones I suppose

Or at least be open to em

[rare dirge]

Mhm

[warm quartz]

Horny chick

They've gone down the rabbit hole of fanservice

I told you all that this would happen when they released monroe

But you didn't listen

Nice to finally see Hardin with his signature LeMat in Hunt media

[rare dirge]

A chick with a lot of horns on her*

Prickly chick even

Pokey chick?

Anything but that

[warm quartz]

These days they have a word for everything

Even a chick with a prick

00:32 quote shows us that Hardin has negative introspection

[rare dirge]

No I just mean like when you say “horny chick” I can PROMISE you NOBODY is thinking about a woman with a bunch of horns on her

[last summit]

so uh sorry if it's a dumb question but the lore is confusing

mr. chary IS dead now right

[warm quartz]

Unlikely

He's magic

[last summit]

HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

[warm quartz]

Probably taking the fight to the clouds right now

[rare dirge]

No he is fighting the moon or something

Not dead

I’m sure

[last summit]

my bad, it seemed implied from the beginning of ToD but i could be misremembering

[rare dirge]

Well that wasn’t him dying

We heard about someone hearing him laughing fighting the moon or something

We got no clue but we are pretty sure he ain’t dead and gone

[last summit]

i need to get better at reading comprehension lol, my bad

[warm quartz]

I think "THEY" are the goverment

I don't want another oh so MyStErIoUs group behind the event owooo so spooky

[strange garnet]

They probably ment the AHA

[warm quartz]

The head of AHA was in Louisiana all along

But I guess that makes sense

[granite shard]

probably from a northern branch of the AHA

like the branch the witch hunter had been associated with prior to going down to LA

[amber harbor]

Maybe Nora? The gal Lynch tried to recruit by murdering someone? I think she was a nurse or something? (??)

[amber harbor]

Well he is in the land of the dead , so you COULD say he's dead, in a way

But he's still kicking around

[rare dirge]

That’s why I said “dead AND gone” he is heard in the land of the dead but honestly knowing chary and this games lore even if he is dead right now bro will come back

“I always come back” sounding mf

[amber harbor]

At this point i'd like to see him more as a cockroach character. Like the event is happening and suddently we find him doing random stuff in the background, he hisses at us about taking down the moon and then he scurries away till next event

[rare dirge]

Sounds funny as hell

[empty basin]

I was also wondering if it was a Texas Ranger or US Marshal type of thing with the lawman showing up with an arsenal, and it showing the multiple deputy/sheriff/marshall badge's in the trailer.

Excited to find out what happens. I'm going to have to watch YT video's on it like everything else, lol. Didn't get all the pages unlocked last event so the video's around helped out.

[boreal hornet]

insert skeletor meme here

[green robin]

Any word on if this new guy is possibly associated with the AHA in wider america? IF I understood correctly the louisiana branch has been dismantled, the last nail in the coffin with finch's death. Could this be the big wigs stepping back in? Will we seem some AHA hunters like the witch hunter rolling in?

[amber harbor]

Maybe madame Lauveau?

[noble scarab]

seems like hes hardin's boss somehow

maybe someone from the goverment

[rotund ferry]

probably not his boss, more-so the guy who runs the region

keeps everyone in check type of fella

i imagine hardin was appointed by someone else

[earnest jungle]

I’m guessing he’s a representative of the Investors or some shit

[rotund ferry]

he does seem like the rich type

[amber harbor]

Crazy theory: maybe these mysterious benefactors are themselves otherworldly beings? Like the anti-sculptors. And the new hunter is the anti-Chary(bit of a stretch)

[rotund ferry]

brought a ton of weapons as said in the trailer

[rotund ferry]

honestly i can see the counterpart to chary

he does seem like he’s more the type to just get shit done and not mess around

[amber harbor]

He strikes me as the kind of rich guy who isn't afraid to get his hands dirty and has hunted before, albeit he's rustier now

[earnest jungle]

I think he has some kind of connection to Lynch or the Lord of the Dead

He did intervene on behalf of the Drowned and had extensive knowledge of Maeve’s familial trauma

[tiny plover]

I mean its not exactly all stated clearly or with alot of evidence to point you in the right direction. Thats why we have the channel lol. No stupid questions, promiss. I ask all those for ya

[tiny plover]

I mean hell, with all the haints coming from the other side to do... seemingly whatever, it wouldnt be a surprise. Lynch, Chery (Maybe? Probably just a normal human who got Super into Evil Magic), the Snake, da Moon, literally any other 'demon' because seemingly they're easier to get up here than you'd think, etc etc.

Its not too crazy say other Paranormal Actors are in play, and may even be the one's pulling strings and making sure things run smoothly.

I mean fuck, what the hell does the average Bourgeoisie Fat Cat need with the Boss tokens we sell them?? What do they do with them??? Is it like... adrenochrome type shit? Or do they have a vested interest because they come from the same place?

[tiny plover]

Thats the thing though. While he was hyper specific, how well did he really know? Like, did he know through paranormal means, or is her story more well known than you'd think?

I mean, they're called Legendary Hunters for a reason, you'd think the surface level story would be out there among other hunters and associates.

It is odd that he knew about the Drowned pact's intentions, so perhaps some connection to Lynch like ya said. But more than anything, he spoke on behalf of Da Money, because thats what his bosses give a shit about.

But like, Lynch could give a fuck about Money. Whats the connection? Same as before with the Old AHA and Huff, the end of corruption?

And how the fuck did they even contact her? Did she contact them? Curious to see where that relationship leads, if its there to begin with

[amber harbor]

Leaning towards she contacted them/happened to be around and got the idea to use them

She's 100% got ulterior motives

Getting the pieces into place

[tiny plover]

Oh for sure, always has and always will. Literally almost all of her actions prove that and continue to do so lol

She is incorrigible. Genuinely doesnt learn her lesson because she's some eldritch deity "Beyond human comprehension" Yet at every turn she gets fucked over by people she underestimates.

Or the bombs that she underestimates...

Like Im convinced the main reason she came to the Land of the Living in the first place is because she knows the only way to get anything done is to have boots on the ground, quite literally.

Leave ANYTHING to these stinking meat bags and they fuck it up. lmao

Points at Mr. Chery

Points at Rotjaw

Points at the Demented

Points at Huff (Though she did take care of that problem...)

[high stone]

Think the Duke or whatever will be a legendary skin?

[timid pecan]

Any theories on what the black stuff hanging from the ceiling over the Sheriff means?

[high stone]

I bet it’s some Netflix-Horror style goop

bad goop

Could be anything though, it’s not clear?

[noble scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress2-tf2engineer-use-a-gun-and-if-that-dont-work-gif-17911768

remeber the default reaction to anything in the AHA is guns, and more guns, and if that doesnt solve it, get more guns

[tiny plover]

Hey, killed a newborn god-thing with that strategy. Well, a boat loaded with bombs, but same concept.

[noble scarab]

yea fair enough

[high stone]

What was this? (god-thing)

[tiny plover]

The big bug god thing being born at the climax of last event lore. Some new boss or god or horrible super demon

Got blown up by an angry ghost boat full of bombs

[high stone]

Huh!

[amber harbor]

Maybe she's done this before, failed, and now she tries to speedrun back to success and keeps messing up along the way

Like when you almost beat a boss but then you die to the minions before the lair

[last summit]

thank you

[warm quartz]

I actually like the new guy

Not some masked edgy ghost 6969 katana swipe badass

[empty basin]

I think it all looks good. Hyped for it. Hope it plays good too.

[warm quartz]

I think it's just grass

You know, fennel and what not

[steady umbra]

which one? did i miss it in the trailer

[tiny plover]

The tophat guy, normal, fancy dressed 1895 man

Not some weirdo covered in moster guts and bones lol

[high stone]

Tbf he is VERY fancy, he looks like he’s going to a Presentation Of The Debutantes, not maybe stomping brackish mud and pig carcass

[amber harbor]

Looks like he owns Pearl Plantation

[empty basin]

Any body have any guesses where this dapper marshal is coming from on the train with an arsenal?

[tiny plover]

I remember someone yesterday pointed out that on one of the maps displayed in the trailer, one of the ones on the bottom of the stack and partially covered, saw "-delphia." Mayhaps Philadelphia, PA?

They keep mentioning the North, which could also refer to the NE Branch of the AHA, or at least the people who buy our bounties in the region.
That being said, it looking like all the North talk is referring to Canada, bc we think the next map could be in Québec

Which now that Im thinking about it, the Mountie is a fucking red herring and the new map is ACTUALLY in the NE United States

Found the elphia photo:

Credit to Anton V: #hunt-general message

[tiny plover]

Or at the bare minimum, the AHA gets their maps printed in Philly lol

^ Linked for more photos on map

[empty basin]

Ok I like that! Well I mean it sounds plausible to me, but with me being kinda new I don't know any of the lore outside Louisiana, so I didn't have a clue where he would be coming from so any guess was good, but the Mountie and all make sense.

[clever thistle]

my gut tells me this map will be more colorado-esque than anything...

[empty basin]

I think the North in the sense of speaking in the time period could still easily be the state's that were in the union during the civil war.

40yrs later something that big would still have an impact on dialect, especially if from a southern state. I'm guessing the voice in the trailer is supposed to be Hayden or we could have tried to gather some ideas from the accent

[tiny plover]

The north Im refering to was the line at the end of the last event. Something something "A mosquito flies North." Its why its not a super strong connection to our Fancy Man. Could be talking about him, the new Map, who knows?

But thats a great point on the dialect thing. North is realative, especially only a couple decades after the Civil War

[empty basin]

They could reuse a lot of mine asset's if they did a Colorado map.

[native brook]

My friends have been asking this but what is the clues that bosses leave behind?

[slim star]

The clues are connections to the other side/dimension from which the influence of the sculptor originates I believe, basically points in which the corruption has broken through and can be used as an insight into the energy of the other world?

Originally, this was then used to see what the bosses saw- through that connection and aura of malevolent energy in darksight- to then locate the bosses

Then they took that away because as cool as that was, it only took one clue for an experienced player to know exactly what compound the boss was in

So lore wise they still do I would assume but gameplay wise it was simplified

[tiny plover]

Ey Yo, New Skin + Lore: <@&905480058754445393>

Heir to the Fawkes mission, Francis was burnt at the stake for crimes of an explosive nature. On that day though, he did not die. Instead, marred by the flames, he strode on with glorious purpose, to fulfill his family name through deadly application of gunpowder.

Wait wait... Do they mean Fawkes, and in Guy Fawkes..? Late 1500s Guy Fawkes...?

Are we getting a Guy Fawkes themed, Annanamoose ass skin?

[restive patrol]

Someone descended from the Guy Fawkes, cause the description says "Heir to the Fawkes mission" and "fulfill his family name"

[tiny plover]

Yeah, certainly more likely than a 300 Year old half-burnt corpse lol

[rotund ferry]

if crytek is making shit up then yeah

fair

but if its true to history then it'll be the francis fella from the 1600's

[warm quartz]

Yeah, a guy who's famous for blowing stuff with gunpowder

At least trying to

[warm quartz]

I sure hope not

[tiny plover]

Nah listen listen, Crytek makes a funny Annamooose skin, Hackers Spend 10 buckss to get it for the meme, easier round em up for bans

Its brilliant.

A little bit of trolling

[warm quartz]

My body is not built for so much cringe

[clever thistle]

SO TRUE

the mask has been hijacked by wannabes and is so cringe to see people use unironically now

[livid cave]

crazy to think that at one point it was kinda menacing

[earnest jungle]

I don’t know why but whenever I see the Guy Fawkes mask I just have this intense visceral reaction of disgust to it. I have no idea why. I have nothing against the movements that have adopted it; or the people who adopted it. But I just see that specific mask and I go “oooooooh I don’t like that.”

[tiny plover]

Spiders-kind of disgusted? Cringe radiation disgusted? Or more like, cognito hazard disgusted.

[earnest jungle]

It’s more like a “I don’t like this painting; it’s smug aura mocks me. IT’S EVIL!” Kind of disgust

[tiny plover]

Ahhh, Clown Disgust, I see. (Not to be confused by Clown fear.)

[livid cave]

(Or clown lust)

though they can often overlap

[hard jasper]

The new Headsman looks like he has the Gator Eye charm drawn on his left shoulder, and the writing on his robes gives me real Night of The Hunter vibes

Think this change isn't just for gameplay purposes, but it'll also give him some more (very much deserved) lore?

[tiny plover]

He certainly fits a lil better in Hunt's roster. Arguably he was fine before as just another eccentric weirdo, but the Eldritch touch is real nice.

Hard to say if they'll give him more lore. There's only so much story to go around with as many pre-existing characters they have, let alone the new one's they intend to add. Like, I remember talking to someone who really wanted them to expand on Coal Bearer's lore. But, to what end? The dude is just a holiday Santa-reference skin. He doesnt NEED to be lore relevant, he's just neat.

That being said, if at some point they just said "Yeah he's with the Night Seer and his Doom cult," I'd have no complaints. We'll, no, Id bitch and go "Who cares about this dork the world is ending, let me hear from Kevin or Sherif Hadin, someone important," if they went TOO in depth, but other than that it'd be cool

[high stone]

Wish they didn’t put the rune writing stuff on him… I kinda liked it better when he seemed like a weird Frankenstein monster gone rogue

It was a nice detail that only the Night of The Hunter cultists had the writing

[green pollen]

I feel like if they had his forehead also be black to match his eye masker and hood the skin would be perfect

[high stone]

Yeah, the contrast on his mask is a little weird, too

It also made sense that the NotH people had the runes, since it seems like a much more superficial and superstitious, (and maybe bullshit) type of magical protection. Since they could be self righteous frauds, and it serves as an ‘advertisement’ of their knowledge and abilities, the idea matches pretty well (unless Isaac Powell being a potential fraud changed with any of the Nu Lore, idk)

[rare dirge]

Well the contrast on his head is for gameplay reasons

People complained about not being able to tell where his head is sometimes

Gotta keep the contrast everywhere

[high stone]

Yeah, the direction they’ve taken of making everyone’s face lighter/contrasted is pretty noticeable…not sure why it was something worth complaining over or changing…their are lots of other ways to find someone…

Crytek should make a game type where everyone has a black and white target on their face with a red clown nose, everyone uses the same Caldwell Conversion, and everyone sprints around on level ground in an open arena, no where to hide…pure skill…pure twitch

“The game THE PLAYERS want!!”

[rare dirge]

id rather a pax

gimmie a different pistol

[high stone]

You’re right…maybe uppercut? Best dam/pen/rang/taste/smell/cost/etc/etc

[tiny plover]

Flare pistols only, infinite ammo

[high stone]

Anyway, maybe the good ‘ol days are gone, bring on the Bayonetta, V for Vendetta and Bloodborne cross-over skins

(I’ll drop it, since this isn’t lore)

[rare dirge]

Gimmie anything but a base Caldwell pistol

[granite shard]

narrator sofia again

I win

also felis & hardin

[real dove]

FELIS

[untold lodge]

Bio for the new guy

[tiny plover]

MAKING THE MOTHER OF ALL OMLETS JACK

He's a fucking senetor

(Not actually but I will joke about it regardless bc Revengence Posting)

[tiny plover]

Test server's up with the lore already?

[granite shard]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=TlX2o-RpqITbs-aB&v=yV5iNNyAKV8&feature=youtu.be

[high stone]

Metalgear?

[granite shard]

he goes through the BP, you just have to pause to read the summaries

[tiny plover]

yus

[high stone]

Gotcha

[tiny plover]

Ahh, I was gushing to my brother about C&K Frechette, stopped before the actual lore/event novelties parts

[high stone]

Is there another Plague Doctor guy, but with a hood now?………

Oh…and a hat??

[tiny plover]

Two-for-one skin. Lady and a dude, like the scrapbeak skin(s)

Playing on the "Mad Doctor doing experiments on paranormal disease" beat again. Dont hate it, but... GIMME THE LORE

foams at the mouth

rejects water

WHO ARE THEY WHY ARE THEY HERE? DO THEY KNOW THE OTHER ONE

tackles huge dent into the drywall

I NEED ANSWERS

[high stone]

Eh, idk

I think I’ve seen that guy passing information to the Galactic Empire on Tatooine…

[real dove]

gal, the female is the hood

would be fun if they did a spiderman meme with the OG plague doc

need a trio team to make it happen when the event launches

[high stone]

Fun meme

[young violet]

I wanted to ask if there is any explanation for this silver obelisk located on the side of the map.

[rocky bloom]

it's an Easter egg like these two 👽

[rocky bloom]

Idaho Monolith Easter egg

[warm quartz]

As if we needed any confirmation

It's now confirmed: Redneck fucks

[rare dirge]

Oh my god I wanted to talk about this

The implications of this

How did bro score ANYBODY let alone enough to the point to have a CHILD

plus I know for a FACT that ain’t his genes showing she had to have gotten most of it from her mother

So how did bro do it

[warm quartz]

Are we talking about the same local sex icon?

[rare dirge]

Can’t even say good personality bro actually was so stupid the sculptor couldn’t corrupt him

[rare dirge]

If you are talking about the redneck then yes

[warm quartz]

Then I don't understand your question

Unless it's ironic

Any girl would be lucky to have him

[warm quartz]

Plus his shlong must be enormous

[tiny plover]

Hey may be dumb but he's pure of heart. That's what really matters in the end.
He's Hung Like A Horse

Beat me to it, had to learn strikethrough formatting lmao

[rare dirge]

HAS to be something like that

I hope this becomes something like the wolf pack family

I gotta see the mother

[warm quartz]

I like the new Van Helsing skin

Wonder if it's event skin or is it here to stay

Damn, and I'm gonna miss the first month of the event

First event that I'm really excited about

[restive patrol]

they stopped doing event exclusive bb store hunters. The only event exclusive ones are the Statesman and the Centipede

you can tell by seeing if the legendary hunter portrait has the event colored background, rather than the regular gold one.

[slow pebble]

this man FUCKS

[warm quartz]

That's what I said!

It's insulting that we have to explain these simple truths

[high stone]

The Centipede models face looks great, pretty cool

Colonel Sanders when?

[high stone]

She looks cool too (even if she’s a little like Wendy, from Wendy’s )

[rotund ferry]

you havent seen his potato growing skills

[high stone]

Who would be the last part of the trio with the Moses father daughter duo?

[wicked sapphire]

Ya got granny too. Grandma, Daddy, daughter rednecks

[empty basin]

Yeah that would be a good trio

Guess would depend on the backstory they go with really, but they could do some good one's with that

[high stone]

Right! Bone Mason’s a good one

[warm quartz]

She is one of the "looks witchery but stinks something fierce" type of hunters

I think Statesman is the only event skin I truly like

Van Helsing is cool but eh

And how many crow beak characters do we need?

[high stone]

Yeah..the Plague Doctor was the perfect version of a plague doctor guy for Hunt…

[rotund ferry]

new plague doctors in the upcoming update are way better than the old one

[high stone]

The new ones, and especially Hex Breaker and the Statesman look ridiculous, like Capcom characters - overly stylized, overly accessorized with jewelry and shiny layered leather and silvery buckles…

[high stone]

The first one was more subtle and serious, and matched Hunt’s 1895 setting better - he looks more like an esoteric occult scientist, sensible protective gear, etc…

It really feels like a P-13/ R rating difference

[rotund ferry]

there’s many hunters that fit that description already though lol

it’s hunt, the setting is of fantasy, not realism

also these plague doctors look more like the actual real plague doctors we had in the past

the old one looks way out of place

[high stone]

This is incorrect, it’s more of a realistic horror/ historical fiction

heavy Southern Gothic influence

[rotund ferry]

yes because all the AI is very realistic

[high stone]

Centuries earlier

[rotund ferry]

but we never had plague doctors that looked anything like the old one

so these new ones at least are more historically accurate than the other

[high stone]

This is why the original was a smart way to please the gamers who kept requesting a plague doctor (???), and match the tone and setting of Hunt

[rotund ferry]

now you’re just confusing me because you’re making it sound like these are good additions

[high stone]

Yeah… in medieval europe??

[rotund ferry]

when your original messages make it out that you don’t like them

[rotund ferry]

yes because hunt is so well known for only having american hunters

[high stone]

No, medieval is the key word…the plague doctors looked like that centuries earlier…

[rotund ferry]

ok but what i’m saying is the old plague doctor

there was nothing that resembled him

at all

it’s just made up

you keep talking about realism and there’s nothing realistic about the plague doctor

[high stone]

This is why the original was a smart way (smart character design) to please the gamers who kept requesting a plague doctor (???), and match the tone and setting of Hunt

It is made up, it matches the historical fiction, of Hunt

[rotund ferry]

except the new ones please people more

from what i’ve seen of the responses

so like at this point, idk what you’re even trying to argue

like there’s no substance to what you’re saying, it’s just that you don’t like them

and that’s about it

[high stone]

I’ll agree with you that gamers will probably pay to get these more

[high stone]

So, I think you’re not understanding what I’m saying about the character design not matching tone and setting. Hunt is in 1895, and real life plague doctors are from the 1600s. The original plague doctor skin matches the idea of Hunt Showdown more closely than the new skins, which look like “the idea of a 17th century plague doctor filtered through the aesthetic sense of the 2004 Van Helsing movie”.

[icy brook]

I like how Crytek just gives people what they want, like the beetle inspect and plague doctor skins

[high stone]

Fun, still a slippery slope…eventually the game will transform into something very different from the interesting idea it started with…it’s a slow, incremental drift

[worthy nova]

If you listen to everything a fanbase asks for, you’re going to lose the clear voice of a project…
It’s that phrase “a camel is a horse, designed by committee”

[icy brook]

I mean Hunt has departed from its pre EA form a long time ago, mostly through fleshing out the maps and systems, especially adding spammy weapons upon community request, it’s going to change as a live service

[high stone]

I should say that I really LIKE the original plague doctor skin, it was a nice surprise

[high stone]

Sure, but the target of the visual tone can be independent from live services, features additions and all of that

[icy brook]

^

Some of the skins hit, others miss the tone, it’s going to happen with the upkeep in dlc and unlock hunters

[worthy nova]

Crytek considering feedback is good, but if you’re a fan, you have to know that not all of our suggestions fit together well, or will feel right

[icy brook]

Not every skin can be a Bridgewater

[high stone]

Haha Bridgewater is not bad, he still looks kinda looks like he just got off his horse after fighting Lakota 1200 miles away

[icy brook]

That’s the point, “taking on reservation pacification actions”

[warm quartz]

Don't talk shit about camels

I WILL spit on you

I like bridgewater a lot

Good simple skin

Good simple lore

[high stone]

Lol, I like Bridgewater’s Honor, but I’ll admit that he feels like the “copy occupation from another setting, paste in Bayou” thing that started around then (Mountie might be the most recent example)

[empty basin]

That could go along with what "type" of people the AHA are looking for maybe

[clever thistle]

dog the aha mustr have such low standards if theyre recruiting escaped convicted asylum inmates 💀

[worthy nova]

I think Heavy Knife means, it’s like if a Hunter characters’s background is a ballet dancer: they would prob switch for trousers and a duster rather than tights, etc. Some skins feel like “they were a construction worker, thats why they hunt in tool belt and hard hat”

[high stone]

Lol, I wonder if Monroe was an unofficial AHA initiate…like he received the serum as part of resurrection/ zombification experiments under Huff, at Jackson

“Professional Pugilist Wallace Turnbley was a promising prize fighter, but one too many hits gave him dark visions of the terror in the swamps - anyway, that’s why he never takes off his boxing gloves.”

[clever thistle]

love the word pugilist

Pugilist was almost a trait in Hunt

used the same art icon as martialist

glad it never made it into the main game tho

[high stone]

I remember that!

[empty basin]

The sheriff was the one putting the people from prison and kids from orphanages out in the dead zone, I didn't know if it was under AHA rule or just his own idea to fight the corruption.

And the lines really blur further in the asylum I feel like lol

At least that is my understanding, I could be wrong or looking at it through a foggy lense

[warm quartz]

I think in railroad hammer lore it tells us that prsion work gangs kept building railroads even during the outbreak

When everyone knew there are zombies about

[empty basin]

"Quotas must be met, undead or not"

[jovial gazelle]

Been trying to poke into the lyrics of An Acquired Taste as usually PSB has their songs tied to events in some fashion.

This song seems to imply both of a theatre performance, and that of a card game gone wrong in regards to, if I had to guess, a tragic love affair?

Of course, this is what I hear, so I won't say my lyrics are 100%.

Not the time or place. 
But if it’s an illusion, 
There’s no stakes. 
I’ll deal the cads and look your way
Oh, queen of spades. 
Fold your hand, 
we’ll turn the page. 
Write the first line, 
This ink won’t fade. 
This story always starts this way; 
The first note plays. 
Now, blood is…
Splattered on the stage. 
Every act must end this way; 
The final scene, the howl of pain. 
Night follows day.```

[warm quartz]

I remember there was something about space so I didn't try to get into lyrics

[warm quartz]

What caliber does maco use?

Whenever I google marlin 1894 it says it uses .44 magnum and .44 mangnum page says it was developed during 1950s

[empty basin]

Maybe 45-70 since it's long ammo.

That's some buffalo ammo.

[restive patrol]

the mako is the Marlin 1895 (the original one, not the modern reproduction). It uses .45-70. Not a lot of info is available on the og Marlin 1895, but here's a site with a small snippet about it https://1895gunner.com/bulletpoints/bulletpoints-11.html

[warm quartz]

🤔

Did confederates celebrate July 4th?

I took redneck for a, you guessed it, redneck

And new big dynamite skin says he made fireworks for July

And I read a book about 4th of July during american civil war and evil confederades didn't want anyone to celebrate it

[granite shard]

I’m pleased this event’s wrapping up some of the loose ends from ToD

Makes a lot of my frustrations with it go away

[tropic falcon]

Alright, time to read the lore to see what is her place in all of this

[acoustic whale]

so we still don't know much about the sculptor?

[tropic falcon]

I just got to the last tier pf the pass, give some time to read and see if it has anything

[warm quartz]

Just as I thought, she is cringe

And her weapon skins suck ass compared to The Statesman's

[raw gust]

The council has designated you: cringe.

[rare dirge]

She is pretty cool

I like her hair

[earnest jungle]

I like her a lot

and I want her and Felis to kiss

[green pollen]

Typical

[real dove]

I like that Felis has a fren who isn't weird sis

love that we are getting more ladies. But also... female DLC when

[warm quartz]

We have plenty ladies as it is

[granite shard]

we had 7 female hunters release after the bone mason and 21 male hunters (including the upcoming son of gunpowder & prodigal son)

[granite shard]

she's also friends w the daughter of decay!

[real dove]

RIGHT

i adore DoD

Her little stick antlers annoyed me when she first dropped, but she's really grown on me

like a corpse full of turnips

[high stone]

What’s wrong with Marshall Brewer?

[real dove]

?

I don't recall saying anything was wrong with her

[high stone]

Jk…what kind of female DLC?

[real dove]

There was a dope Widow concept i saw a while back. I'd love to see a gothic woman akin to maye but without the hat.

[high stone]

I kinda wish Witch Hunter had the dual outfit thing, and better/more items

[pure sun]

every hunter should have a male/female version tbh

[real dove]

eh, i like the individualness

dgmw, I like the birbs

but takes away (imo) from the character if they are twinned

interested to see if P son is gonna be a ned kelly like folks be screaming about, but also really hoping it's not just a male version of prog. daughter

we got 21 dudes last year to 7 girlies

tide of corruption had no new womens at all

@granite shard noted it, don't wanna steal credit

just a pretty big diff in numbers

[high stone]

Whoa, where’d they mention a Prodigal Son?

[granite shard]

in the description of hunters who get event bonuses

"The Prodigal Son" was one listed and is assumed to be the next DLC hunter after the son of gunpowder one

unless that's the same person, but his description doesn't sound like it fits the prodigal thing

[rare dirge]

There’s a good chance the prodigal son is the upcoming one

Could be next months DLC but seems unlikely that they would release a event related hunter so late into the event

[granite shard]

yeah maybe, we'll see

I just hope that after whoever the prodigal son is we get a female DLC hunter

[rare dirge]

Oh yeah thinking about it the past like 4 have been males LOL

(Including this upcoming one)

And the last female was bundled with a male

[granite shard]

yeah, the last female DLC (without a man in it) was the bone mason.

[rare dirge]

Speaking of that I gotta say hunt does a good job of being like actually diverse in like a normal way

[granite shard]

it really does, I think that's what makes the fact that we've gotten so few women recently really show to me

[rare dirge]

I never really payed attention to it personally but now that you pointed it out it has been pretty weighted

Plus we got some female hunters with events and just for BBs

[granite shard]

yeah, I did the math tho recently

19 released male hunters (with 1 or 2 coming in DLC depending on if the son of gunpowder and prodigal son are different people) and 7 female hunters released after the bone mason

8 actually I think

(cardinal rain, gar, morrigan, beekeeper, drowned rat, centipede, brood, redneck's daughter)

like is it the biggest deal in the world? nah but man it still kinda sucks that we've gotten so many more male hunters released lol

[rare dirge]

Yeah

I mean to be fair though for 1895 I’m sure we would see a lot more males overall

Though the AHA doesn’t care who joins just more fodder for the sculptor

[granite shard]

yeah but it's also a version of 1895 where there's zombies and demons so going based on reality is kinda a moot point imo

[rare dirge]

I guess

Though I do like thinking that outside the bayou the world is in a similar state but a lot of people go to the AHA because nobody there discriminates over stupid things like race and gender and sexuality

People fight but it’s over ideals of the world and not like anything like that

[granite shard]

I really like the uppercut precision lore where the implication is that gay marriage is legal in at the very least new york

since it's a guy writing to his husband lol

[rare dirge]

I’m sure the ripple of the AHA not being discriminatory would effect the worlds overall tolerance due to the “common enemy” thing or the “bigger picture” thing

[high stone]

Yeah, I thought this too, it’s not a completely alternate reality, it’s like Dracula..the same 1890s, but there’s Dracula…

[rare dirge]

I mean think about the world wars even with the “don’t ask don’t tell” thing and the prominent bullying within troops many gay relationships and other things thrived in the army

Because y’know people didn’t care

Or at least less people cared

[high stone]

What’s the most far out thing you think would be acceptable to add to Hunt?

[granite shard]

tbh that's a really wild thing to say after the context for that is "realism shouldn't stop them from adding more female hunters to the game"

but like treating your question in good faith, literal werewolves

I think a monster based on a werewolf would be neat but I don't think someone shifting between human and werewolf would fit the game

[high stone]

No, adding more women doesn’t hurt the plausibility I don’t think, but people like to use that argument - “Well there’s already Zombies…”

[granite shard]

I think you just need to look at the context that "there's already zombies" is being said in lol

[high stone]

Yeah…the “more males than females” thing?

[granite shard]

yes

[high stone]

I saw that

Just saying I see that reasoning a lot..that because there are several fictional elements in the story, reality is completely out the window

So i was curious how far most people go

(I have No Problem whatsoever with more women characters) 👍

[worthy nova]

I thought the ‘Louisiana incident’, AHA, and sculptor stuff were all secret, not widely known

I assumed it was our reality, it was just an historical secret

[rare dirge]

no

everyone knows about the aha and stuff

they have stations around the world and try to recruit people around the world

[worthy nova]

The AHA isn’t a secret society? I know they recruit around the globe, but I figured it was pretty hush-hush. There were a bunch of transatlantic secret and paranormal societies back then…

[earnest jungle]

Ever Since Scrapbeak they’ve begun moving away from the AHA being an actual secret and instead portraying them as more of an open secret.

Aided and abetted by the willful ignorance of the public who would rather pretend what’s happening in the bayou isn’t

Part of this coincides with Hunts move away from Historical Fiction and towards something more akin to Historical Fantasy

A move I wholeheartedly support for the record.

Back when Hunt was first in development they loved using historical domain characters like Philip Huff Jones, John Weasley Hardin, Marie Laveau, Doctor Jean Montanet.

And then at some point they discovered the heroic leader of the AHA was a member of the White League and took part in a white supremacist insurrection that sought to topple the Reconstruction Era Government and reinstate white supremacy in Louisiana.

At which point they started to lean more into the Fiction than the History. Because you don’t have to worry about threading the needle of writing fiction and history.

[severe sleet]

Who are the new characters and why are they in the bayou

[worthy nova]

Oh, interesting. Who was the former AHA leader?

[earnest jungle]

Philip Huff Jones

Superintendent of the East Louisiana State Hospital

Ragging white supremacist

His assassination ignited the current faction war and paved the way for Chary’s rise to power.

[high stone]

Ohh, was Huff Jones a heroic leader?

[worthy nova]

Oh! Huff, gotcha. Was he a white supremacist IRL? Or that was Hunt lore?

(Thanks for laying this out!)

[earnest jungle]

IRL

[earnest jungle]

Though the Armored lore alludes to discrimination within the AHA so actually both

[high stone]

That’s too bad they moved away from Huff because of his horrible views, that could’ve part of a fun villain turn

[earnest jungle]

He actually does pop up here and there and of course much of the story is a direct product of his incompetence

And it’s also a distinct possibility the writer knew from the start about Huff’s history in the white league I mostly just assumed they learned this later because the source I found that in was in my opinion obscure

[high stone]

Is Huff Jones a fictional analogue of John Welch Jones??

[earnest jungle]

No that was Huff’s father

Both in the game and real world

[high stone]

I remember this now

If the “fantasy” elements are the ones I’m thinking of, I don’t love them - I wish it had stayed closer to historical horror fiction

[obtuse timber]

Is the centipede someone we have seen before?

[icy brook]

I think she was in a movie 🤔

[restive patrol]

I really hate when people say that cause that just implies that internal consistency within a universe does not matter, when imo, it does, as it helps ground the universe and helps more viewers/readers suspend their disbelief and add a sense of authenticity and more believability to the world-building, promoting them to be able to connect everything and make sense within the rules of the fictional universe. Cause if there was no internal consistency, then we might as well have hunters casting fireballs at their enemies or using AR-15s in 1895.

People keep confusing internal consistency as being "It has to be 100% realistic"

[obtuse timber]

Does anyone know who the backer of the peacekeepers is?

[strange garnet]

I'm guess whoever the Statesman serves

[warm quartz]

I don't like the way Hardin's VA reads things

Is it common to read your own name as w hardin?

And emotion is missing

It's a problem for all of Hunt's VA

[warm quartz]

Probably AHA's inner circle

I hope so

I'm tired of them bringing on more players

[warm quartz]

There can be only so many "dark and enigmatic societies with mysterious intentions"

[warm quartz]

Huff was always a negative characters, I do not know where you got heroic part

[empty basin]

I haven't gotten anything more than the statesman was sent by whoever wants the bounties we are hunting in the bayou, and he is also there to get bounties, at least their location is the first thing he asks Hardin. Someone in here already called that before the event. But I only got to level 9 so haven't gotten many lore entries yet...

[warm quartz]

Centipedie guns skins are a single skin slammed across several guns

For Stateman skins it works because you can't go wrong with engravings

[slow pebble]

It is incredibly cringy that they use the gameplay terms like "Boss Target" as if they are actual dialogue a person would say. The dialogue in this game was never really good but the writing is in the toilet atm

[livid cave]

I haven't got caught up on the lore can you send me a ss of where they bring it up

[warm quartz]

Hardin is cool

Felis FEARS the Hardin

She fears the Mallet of Law

[real dove]

They make it clear so that new players know what they are after. Same for using the full name of hunters over just their first name/Last name/etc. What would you call the boss target if you were writing it so that people still knew what the characters are after? @slow pebble

[granite shard]

once again I would like to put the reminder that I stated that in response to a disparate ratio of male and female characters added post bone mason (19-8), and how "realism" shouldn't stop them from including more female characters because the inclusion of zombies has already meant that they are stepping from the bounds of reality set up in 1895.

[granite shard]

agreed. the event lore is meant to be accessible to players of all levels of familiarity with hunt lore so it requires that they use the terminology utilized in game so people are able to immediately pinpoint what's being talked about

[real dove]

Agreed. I don't get the head in the sand argument of "it's not realistic to have a DRASTICALLY different number of female hunters to male hunters" when we are fighting a fused pile of corpses and a man who becomes bugs. I don't care so much if it's equal equal. However, it's not even CLOSE. We had an event with ZERO new female hunters, and the last female only DLC was in May! But back to the "It'S NoT ReAlIsTiCcccCCCcC" bro wut. Who cares. How does the female and male ratio being made a bit closer break realism for you?

[slow pebble]

In universe you could name them plenty of things, as simple as something like big monster to using the name the Researcher gave them. This was all already established.

Making it clear to new players is not the job of the lore, theres a literal manual ingame they should start advertising if they want to teach players the terminology of Hunt.

[real dove]

Lore should be understandable to everyone

Not just people familiar with the game

[slow pebble]

You don't name the antagonist of a story "The Antagonist"

[real dove]

But you do name the Boss Target that you are hunting the Boss target, as apposed to a Wild Target or normal Targets for quests/dailies/etc.

That's what they are called IN THE GAME

[slow pebble]

Then what is the point of writing lore that takes place in the game. People unfamiliar with the game will get used to it over time and organically learn more about it as they play and read stuff.

[real dove]

clearly that's what the hunters in the lore call them

[slow pebble]

Even monster hunter has more normal names for their big targets, they could even name them something like "Monster Target" or anything in that sense, it's the "boss" part that makes no sense because literally in no circumstance would you name something that unless a character is literally aware of videogame terms in universe

What reason do they have to call it a "Boss"

Wild Target makes sense since it isn't stuck inside a building

[real dove]

The events (imo) are written for everyone. That's why they are very specific and clear in how they are written- yeah, maybe a bit less puzzley and hokey but that's so any one player who maybe does or doesnt give a fuck about the lore can understand the event and why it's happening. A day to day player isn't going to go rummaging around in the BOW- that, to me, is for us lore goblins. That's why the BOW is more cryptic and uses hunter's first names/last names/etc.

They call is boss as they think the Boss targets are the bosses of the AI around them, at least to my understanding

[slow pebble]

The events are written for everyone and when you write something for everyone you take away a lot of artistic integrity until you have nothing left but a literal exposition dump with no nuance

Whats even interesting about that

When i started i knew nothing and i had a lot of fun figuring stuff out

Thats kind of the magic of lore from scattered info

If you dont want to bother finding out by yourself theres a large group of people doing the work for you already.

[real dove]

We're still getting that though. BOW gets major updates with each new weapon we get. It's just that the events aren't handled that way.

[slow pebble]

So events are written poorly as a result

Because they are just exposition dumps

[real dove]

I disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion

[icy brook]

The events blurbs are just that, short blurbs

But at least they coherently are moving the story along

And adding lore to previous hunters, so a net positive imo but they aren’t written very well on the whole

When are we getting a Chinese New Year event, or really any event with the Chinese hunters all pledged to one pact

[tiny plover]

Are you telling me Redneck is even more based than first realized? Mother of god...

[tiny plover]

Still and forever will be waiting for a rural 19th century china map. Imagine fighting hunters in a rice paddy, or all the world building that could be done by expanding beyond Louisiana?

[real dove]

Give it time. We could very well see a Hunt that takes place globally (in game) where the sculptor spreads well past the south/wherever we are going next

[acoustic whale]

mexico

[real dove]

I'd appreciate a western map, ngl. give it buttes and stuff to add cover, not just open terrain

[icy brook]

CO

[dusky bay]

I agree the written lore bits are uneven but some of it is real good

[high stone]

cough

[sullen iron]

Can anyone explain what happened in the tide trilogy- I don't understand most of it

?

They lost me by the end of Corruption

[high stone]

The thing I keep thinking is how the design of most of the monsters (kind of up until Scrapbeak) are really strengthened and depend on the setting - without the hot, gross southern swamp, and ghosts of Reconstruction and religious fear in American culture in the 19th century, Hunt: Showdown could lose a lot of it’s identity in another setting….the challenge is finding common threads in the story…but that’s difficult with the broken consistency we’ve had the last few years

I wish the Louisiana incident would have a satisfying conclusion, if they insist on moving on…and develop some background to make any of the new settings interesting

(And I know it’s to sell the games to national flag wavers who don’t “get” Hunt, but want to feel represented, and visible…)

[real dove]

I'm kinda on the same page here- I'd enjoy seeing other maps, but I also LOVE the southern gothic style of hunt. Like all the hunters across the world are travelling to NOLA to get a shot at the riches and glory there. The old wooden buildings and fields and the plantation house are all so good. I'm interested in the maybe/maybe not new colorado map, but I hope it still feels like what we have now

[sullen iron]

What about a map in New orleans proper?

[high stone]

Yeah, it’s just too bad they’d have to drop the gross wet monsters, like water devils and meatheads…not sure how the zombies would be doing when they freeze over in the rockies, either

[high stone]

Might be neat, but blows the “hidden in the swamps” idea….may as well put it in Washington DC

[sullen iron]

Yeah

I'm not familliar with the geography of the region but where could be a decent contender for the new map

If they are feeling spicy they could have us hunt in the land of the dead at some point

But it seems a bit far fetched

[high stone]

They probably need to make some small “Death Match” maps, without AI, that seems to be what alot of kids prefer anyway

[sullen iron]

Part of hunt's identity is the pvevp

[high stone]

Yeah I know… a lot of people seem like they’re focused on the PvP with Cowboy Guns only, and could care less about setting/story immersion (not me!) So! I dunno.

[sullen iron]

We'll have to wait and see the map

[sullen iron]

Btw what's your opinion about the latest lore?

Some of it fell kinda flat for me

[high stone]

Honestly a good port/waterfront map with a heavy swamp section (like, mangroves, boats,etc.) and maybe some cult/mad science/ monster lair structures would great to tie it up…but alot of this stuff is kind of already in the first two maps, to smaller scales?

[high stone]

Yeah I’m not a fan, it’s meaningless mush

[sullen iron]

I mean what the hell were the statues about?

Like the weapons book and the monster guide have cool lore thats fun

How have they lost the ability to write good lore

In the span of a few years

[high stone]

I couldn’t tell you, haha

Yeah some of the Monster Book lore is pretty good

[empty basin]

Man bummer to hear that it isn't great, was really looking forward to some good story and lore this event. Was bummed we weren't getting any new questline stuff that could tell us something as well.

[granite shard]

I mean you should read and make an opinion for yourself. I’ve really enjoyed what we’ve gotten so far

[empty basin]

I will for sure, I'm happy we get any since pvp is obviously the main of the game, I'm just one of those people that really enjoy the time and setting and finding characters you can relate to in the story

[granite shard]

Yeah I really enjoy finding more out abt the characters

[empty basin]

I guess relate to is a strong word considering the setting lol maybe sympathize with or understand their actions is better😅

[granite shard]

That’s one of my favorite parts of the event lore is just finding out more abt like. How they react to things in the world & their relationships with other characters

Like reaper’s interactions w the bone mason in tide of corruption were so endearing to me

Humanized him beyond just “he has dementia and kills people”

[empty basin]

I agree, it makes me much more invested, even when gameplay wise it means nothing

[high stone]

I think I would be invested if they didn’t seem like cartoon characters

Reaper and Bone Mason are two pretty good examples actually

Granny can run.

[noble scarab]

The statues were the sculptor somehow “studying” events from the lore. Outside of that it helped to tell us what stories crytek considers canon

[warm quartz]

Good thing Sofia is the narrator for this event and not Lulu

[noble scarab]

Given that BATS and the moon trilogy aren’t really canon

[warm quartz]

Lulu's letters would probably be stained in saliva

Adressed to Sophia and just say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joOMW0DL39Q

[high stone]

What the hell

[warm quartz]

He's progressive redneck

A real man of tomorrow

[warm quartz]

Did you not read scottfield lore?

[high stone]

I just feel bad for all the original game artists, their backs must be killing them…

[high stone]

I believe you, just didnt expect the pussyboss video

[granite shard]

Both of those are things that should be taken as things that likely happened until something else in canon contradicts them

[tiny plover]

Smalls. Then tell me this.

Where's our boy

[granite shard]

Kevin?