#lore-discussion

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rotund ferry
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Except Gar

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Well even Gar wanted to bloat her until she couldn't move

patent sleet
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I wonder if Gar and Enola(?) are safe after the battle at the Mound.

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It's unknown if all statues were destroyed, or just the ones nearest the Mound.

rotund ferry
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Gar most certainly died while trying to protect(?) Rotjaw in Tide of shadows after the battle over the Delphine's wreck

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Butcher's Cleaver claims he witnessed her banishing atop Rotjaw's belly in the black fire you usually see when a target banishes

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But that also doesn't necessarily mean she's staying dead since resurrection is commonplace in the lore

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I'm also curious to know if those statues that are mentioned being in the land of the dead are actual statues with trapped souls in them, similar to Chary's clay soul traps we saw in Devil's moon

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Which could mean the souls of Rotjaw, Enola and Gar were all trapped in the land of the dead but freed after the mound battle

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It's all speculation on my part but it seems plausible

granite shard
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I think the rat muses in how you can turn into one of the statues after some time in the lotd

rare dirge
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She thinks you do but most of the statues are of stories and not actual people trapped in there right?

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The story of rotjaw and gar is there with the statue of the both of them

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Some story’s of sherif harden

patent sleet
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I could have sworn the literal, living Gar and Enola were curled up asleep in a statue of Rotjaw. It was in a Drowned Rat chapter. Lynch said she was keeping a promise.

rotund ferry
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That was a whole statue

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It was Lynch sitting on top of Rotjaw with her mouth open and Enola and Gar were curled up together inside a "cradle of teeth"

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It was a Sculptor of them but not actually them

patent sleet
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OK, I'll reread it later.

rotund ferry
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Somebody should honestly draw it, visually it'd be a great background for a desktop

warm quartz
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I now think Sculptor doesn't want to take over the world, but watch hunters fight each other so he can get more statues aka stories

tall vigil
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Look, you can judge me all you want, but when she flips over in her death animation, all I wanna do is give that tummy some rubs.

granite shard
tall vigil
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That and fun, gay dating fanfics.

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And cool gloomy atmosphere.

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WHERE’S MY HUNT DATING SIM, CRYTEK?

rotund ferry
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So despite the fact that it is a dead zombified alligator, yes I'd also give it belly rubs

wicked osprey
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heck yea bruther HuntChad

rotund ferry
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I don't see why Crytek couldn't make one for Hunt Showdown

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We also have plenty of talented artists who'd probably be more than happy to do the art work for such a project

wicked osprey
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would romance rotjaw

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👍

jovial mist
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who will win.. 2 slugs to the chest or one half charged chest shot with knuckles..

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the knuckles it seems

wicked osprey
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LORE ACCURATE ^^^^^

frozen portal
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whose the most powerful hunter, lore-wise and why is it redneck

slow pebble
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Probably any of the ones that kind of can't die

jovial mist
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kill guy 3 times..

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begs me to stop

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i stop..

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shoots me in the back

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some people really are bitter

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im not mad.. im man enough to show charity..
i know what its like to just get owned over and over with no effort

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i know it sucks out the joy of the game.

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but to then get a vengence kill when your back is turned.. pathetic

icy brook
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Lore accurate betrayal

jovial mist
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i mean. its just sad.. he begged.. pleaded for his life

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i could never be so sad.

icy brook
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Concertina bomb and walk away

unreal yoke
jovial mist
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started?

rotund ferry
unreal yoke
haughty light
high stone
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I would love some more lore about the beginnings of the plague, how the Governor and AHA agents handle it, etc….how everything ended up in the state it is, in Stillwater and Lawson, Desalle….

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Lots of collection/safety cages placed around, barricades erected…how’d all that happen? It would be awesome to have a great story behind it

rotund ferry
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Well we know the U.S. Government probably set up a quarantine zone around the state of Louisiana

neat juniper
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We most certainly could use an event that allows us to glipmse in those times

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Just imagine the lore potential

real dove
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The Louisiana event, mostly/possibly fully redacted, has a newspaper chunk about how the gov is like lmao what plague? that's a poor person problem.

silver cargo
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were the journals of charlie salter 3 and 4 ever released?

real dove
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? Dude died to the twins sometime in Summer of 1895

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Sometime not long after he kills mary, the twins walk into his cabin and kill him

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going off BATS and the journals

neat juniper
night cliff
rotund ferry
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Regions like DeSalle, Stillwater and Lawson were all populated and bustling with folk. Now those very same regions are filled with the undead and other abominable creatures, a ghost town to the living but a horde for the dead

real dove
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oof my bad

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forgot we have several salters running about

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well, minus one

severe sleet
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How did the kid become a drowned

granite shard
# severe sleet How did the kid become a drowned

he was killed by the butcher's cleaver in tide of corruption (tied up & got his head blown off by a shotgun blast) and in the land of the dead he (alongside the other drowned) made a deal with Lynch to come back

severe sleet
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Ah alrighty

rotund ferry
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A really one-sided deal

rare dirge
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I think it’s a fire deal personally

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Gets to come back to life?

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And lynch lied to them anyways right? So they now just get to live for doing nothing

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Idk this story was a lot more confusing

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Im still not fully sure what happend

high stone
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I bet a lot of it was done by the army, coordinated by the Governor…wonder what happened to those Army guys, though

granite shard
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I think they were meant to bring a bunch of people into the land of the dead to feed to the big monster

rare dirge
high stone
granite shard
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The individual arcs got generally wrapped (DoD made peace w her past, beekeeper ascended, the drowned seemingly achieved what they wanted) but the underlying story didn’t have a clear conclusion

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Is how I see it

high stone
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For this current Event?

granite shard
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Yeah

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Like I think they needed a conclusion written outside of the perspective of the DoD/beekeeper/rat

rotund ferry
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I still can't tell if Beekeeper turned into a giant monster and that's what they mean by "ascended"

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Like the Demented's whole gimmick was revering the Sculptor and his work but wanting to become something more themselves

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So did Beekeeper achieve this level of "sapience?"

patent sleet
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I think the Beekeeper and the monster the Sculptor was cooking both got blown to smithereens. The Delphine was aimed right at it.

granite shard
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Yeah I think at the very least she became monster food

high stone
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Hmm…sometimes it really does sound like some chatgpt stuff

rotund ferry
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I mean it makes sense too!

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the noises in the ash bloom! all the flies buzzing around you!

granite shard
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tbf w how annoying the spider is

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I do not want a flying wild target 😂

real dove
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nah. I'd expect to get a burrowing insect wild boss

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as cool as a flier would be, would be super shitty to fight

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watches spider crawl around the cannery or iron works yeah, please no fliers

granite shard
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burrowing insect would also just be land rotjaw lol

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I think a really aggressive target would be neat, one that's constantly putting pressure on you

real dove
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yeah, but they have to break up the fights somehow lol. I'd love a WB that created its own lair of sorts- a insect one that makes a hive

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be a pain to code for im sure

neat juniper
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what if
what if a flier, but flies around all over the map, you shoot it down in some compound and it makes a lair there and stops being a flier

real dove
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that'd be cool

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still kinda a pain

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but if like, you sticky it/lance it/do enough damage/hit a weakpoint etc that drops it, that'd be cool

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so you do have a reasonable shot at bringing it down

alpine ferry
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Will the other pacts return in the next tide?

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Like Infernal, Lunar

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Or maybe even the Primals or Smugglers from the tide of shadows

real dove
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Doubt we will get another tide, the do events in threes

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so likely it'll be a new trio of something else

alpine ferry
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We had 3 moons then, right?

real dove
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but likely we will see them return

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yes

alpine ferry
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Serpent, Devil, and which?

real dove
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traitor, serpent, devil

alpine ferry
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Hm

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What do you think will be next?

real dove
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if the next map moves us from the swamps, dunno

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storm of darkness lmao

alpine ferry
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Storm might be a idea

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Maybe wasteland?

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Or if the developers decide we might get even other name of desolation

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For example in Spanish desierto

real dove
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yeah, dunno

alpine ferry
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Maybe they will consider the first event being called „Desierto a la demonio”

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Maybe some Mexican like hunters might be added

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What do you say?

real dove
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moon trilogy, tide trilogy, dunno. there could be almost anything as the next set

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rumor mill says a more mountainy area

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Plague trilogy

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Plague of crows, plague of rot, plague of the common cold

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lmao

alpine ferry
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Maybe not a plague

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Maybe a ground?

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Or a highland?

real dove
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just spitballing lol, thinking of something that could be used 3x times as the event title

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not sure what you mean

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plague as in a disease

alpine ferry
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Ye ye

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Highland of Crows?

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Idk

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Rotting Ground?

real dove
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The Rot Trilogy

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Rotting Earth, Festering Woods, Plagued Beasts dunoo

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could be anything lol. assuming we will get snow, and maybe fire?

alpine ferry
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Fire?

real dove
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new map drops likely the first event

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Yeah, we got fire with devil and fire with corruption

alpine ferry
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Caverns then?

real dove
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mountain region would def have caves

alpine ferry
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Highland map would be complicated

real dove
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yeah, idk. Been playing a lotta Far Cry 5 with the BF, and would love to see those kinda mountains in hunt

alpine ferry
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Makes sense

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Wastelands maybe

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Would be interesting

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Or maybe a Pit?

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Oh and a question

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How were the pacts born?

real dove
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born?

alpine ferry
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How were they created

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Were there any special reasons?

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Behind their lore of course

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Idk, for example Demented pact, how come did they start worshipping the Sculptor?

real dove
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The pacts got started when a group of hunters got together due to having a common enemy or theme to them- Lunar were created as they all didnt like what chary was doing

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demented got started when Butcher and crew banded up, worshiping the sculptor. afaik there's not like, a starting point, more like the cleaver and crew slowly got more followers (bird crew for example) as other folks who aren't exactly right in the head realized they shared aspects with that pact

alpine ferry
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What about the infernal?

real dove
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Honestly, It

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's been a long time since the first infernal that I dont really recall what they were about. Infernal has afaik always been chary's group

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Infernal 1 was Devil moon, and was Chary's group. Infernal 2 was TOC

granite shard
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infernal started as a mixture of people who were loyalists to the AHA and those loyal to Chary specifically

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it's likely that by Tide of Corruption it was more just chary's followers

rotund ferry
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Is Chary still AHA as of this event?

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Or did he die again or something

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He turned to ash

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A literal cloud of ash

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Guess we know why he's afraid of clouds

tall vigil
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Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy, honestly.

granite shard
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he'll likely be back in the next trilogy

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he doesn't seem dead dead

tall vigil
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Honestly, I’m a little sick of all the resurrection. It’s a very common thing in the story, and the gameplay of course, but it gets tough to keep up with.

granite shard
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tbh I'm fine with the ones that have happened since they were mostly all set up as the character wasn't staying dead

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the rat's the only one that came back I was surprised by

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but like w the kid, him being pretty explicitly sucked into the land of the dead had me like "oh he's relevant next event"

tall vigil
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That’s another thing I need to catch up on. So, what IS the afterlife in Hunt? There’s references to damnation and the Land of the Dead and wherever the Hell the Sculptor comes from.

Is it like a Rick Riordan thing, where every mythology is right simultaneously, or what?

granite shard
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I don't think it's done rly anything to confirm any sort of mythology, more of set up its own

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I think that characters are using language familiar with them to describe what they see, as opposed to there being a christian hell or stuff like that, if that makes sense

tall vigil
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Yeah, that’s what I figured as well. It’s human interpretation of whatever it is they’re seeing. But then you get people, I guess, interacting with interpretations you wouldn’t expect them to have?

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Like, the Kid doesn’t seem like he’d believe in the Mexican Land of the Dead, and yet, there he is.

granite shard
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yea I don't think it's the mexican land of the dead

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I do wish the experiences people had in the LotD were more personalized. We got a hint of that with the chapter where everyone saw their own apparition as it passed them

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but I wish that overall the theming was less nautical

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it fits the thirteenth mate and the captain, but imagine if the kid was more fire and ash, while the rat was more... idk, but something related to her own personal struggles

tall vigil
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Agreed. It all feels so… Inconsistent.

granite shard
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I think it's consistent with what it's presenting, but a missed opportunity

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it's an interesting land of stasis, which I think the statues do capitalize. the whole concept of eventually you'll just fade and become a statue after wandering in the endless swamp. it's not necessarily Hell in the sense that it's there to punish you, but at the same time it seems maddening to be there for any stretch of time

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I'd love to learn more of just like. the straight up facts of it, but hunt doesn't tend to give those lol

severe sleet
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So which characters are canonically dead

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Or hunters

tall spade
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What happend last event?

tall spade
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And some hunters drown

severe sleet
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Ah alrighty

tall spade
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@severe sleet Kidding. I catch up on this page. https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Lore#Event_Stories

Hunt: Showdown Wiki
Lore

Different lore entries can be found in game, on the official page and official social media. The game developers have also provided additional information in lore AMA sessions on Discord.

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I read all the way back to Tide of Shadows last night. Now I understand what I saw down in Kingsnake Mine this event.

warm quartz
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They pop back up like whack-a-moles

lunar sky
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Did my boy carcass die 😭

granite shard
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carcass is seemingly alive rn

lunar sky
severe sleet
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Mr chary

lunar sky
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Bro too buff to die

granite shard
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chary's dead-ish right now but not likely to stay dead

warm quartz
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He singlehandedly beat racism

granite shard
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billy story is presumably dead but that hasn't been confirmed

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butcher's cleaver is pretty dead

severe sleet
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Night seer

granite shard
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no he's alive

lunar sky
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Good to know my favorite hunters are canonically alive

granite shard
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this is what i made at the beginning of the event

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to keep track

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beekeeper is presumably dead now as well

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captain lafitte also seems to be gone for good

severe sleet
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I was gonna for a while but I returned to the bayou, and why is there a Crocodile!!!! Did reptilian finally change

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Gone*

lunar sky
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So anyone not on that list is alive and well?

granite shard
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yeah

lunar sky
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Thank you

warm quartz
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How's Killian dead?

granite shard
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stabbed through the ribs by the gar at the end of tide of shadows

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it's possible he survived but he's likely out

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the gar is also in a murky status rn where she seems to be in the land of the dead napping in the rotjaw statue's mouth w enola

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but w the name drop of death cheat I think she'll be back

severe sleet
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Anyone know the gun lore for hunt

real dove
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like... how they have weapons?

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need some more context on that question lol. lotta guns with a lotta lore

rotund ferry
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Okay no that's a lie

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most of the guns in hunt though are real and if you take the history of the people who actually invented them but replace their name like Caldwell instead of Colt then it's just the same lore

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So in the year 1911 a man by the name of John Moses Browning will go onto make the Caldwell M1911 semi automatic pistol and one of America's most prevalent handguns.

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God...

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Literally calling it the "Caldwell" M1911 pistol is cursed

severe sleet
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Sawed off nitro let's gooooo

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Gonna break some arms

severe sleet
real dove
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dunno actually. some of the leg weapons have explanations for why they are how they are, but Im not a weapons expert to answer this.

tropic falcon
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Most of them come from ingenuity of the hunters

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Why put an axe handle on a drilling? Cuz it becomes an even more versatile weapon

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Why knuckle duster on a revolver? Cuz its easier to punch a guy with the gun you already have at hand

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That said some DO have story, at the top of my head I think the guns dealer fella, carcass dealer or something, made the carabine out of an agent revolver once he had his arm broken I think

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But maybe Im delirious I have to read the lore again XD

earnest jungle
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Little late to the party; but It seems we got confirmation that Enola, and Gar are in fact the same in chapter 12?

granite shard
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I don’t think so

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I think it’s their connection to rotjaw

earnest jungle
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well they're both seen in the statue of Rotjaw and Lynch says it's the fullfilment of a promise she made

granite shard
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I think that it might also be her fulfilling it by bringing Enola to the statue of RJ

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Like they’re both together

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I heard that the gar was intended to be transfem and that’s what her backstory is referring to, which is why I don’t think that her and Enola are meant to be the same

earnest jungle
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Ooohooooh

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A transfem hunter you say?

granite shard
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Yea

earnest jungle
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I didn’t know I could love Gar more

granite shard
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Ikr

earnest jungle
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Okay I've listened to the full story and I think I understand most of what happened.

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When hunters use altars and shit a piece of ourselves is taken to the land of the dead by the sculptor and gathered in that mound thing

granite shard
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I just wish there was a conclusion fuckedupcat fuckedupcat

earnest jungle
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Gestating inside the mound is some great big sculptor-larvae-bug thing that the bee keeper wants as a surrogate child, lynch wants to turn into a living weapon against the sculptor, and is ultimately killed by the drowned saving the Bayou from the devastation of the tide of desolation and returning them to life.

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In the process Captain Laffite merges with the Delffine and attones for having abandoned her in the storm of 1893

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Presumably saving the bayou but not necessarily the land of the dead.

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Also the moon might be the sculptor(?)

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That would explain why Linus is described as a quote-un-quote False Saint, and the connections between the sculptor and the moon and why Chary is waging a war on the moon.

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But the sculptor has been described also as a bug on the moon, and the moon and sculptor are described as being at war (?)

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Also you've mixed up your lesbians*. Lulu and Sofia don't show up in Serpent's Moon you're thinking of the Nun and the Witch Hunter; those are the two who adopted Kevin.

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*(Mary and Circe are not cannonically gay this is just my HC)

granite shard
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The entire lunar pact adopted Kevin tho lbr

earnest jungle
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fr fr fr

granite shard
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I really like the idea of like

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He’s kinda worshipped by a lot of the non legendary hunter lunar pact

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Hence the whole false saint thing

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But the legendaries just see him as the kid he is

granite shard
earnest jungle
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It's why I'm reading over the lore in an attempt to find diffinitive proof one way or the other.

granite shard
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Either the first traitor’s moon chapter or the prequel to it mentions something abt the moon as an entity

earnest jungle
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In Devil's Moon Chapter 8 Charry says "No child can stop us, no moon, no Sculptor. Our dear Mary’s transformation has proven it. This is the power we needed, and it shall only grow from here!" which points towards them being seperate entities

granite shard
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It seems to have a presence in the lotd, since she’s throwing hands w chary lol

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I think in the end the drowned also do take in the sins of the bayou since the rat muses on how she doesn’t feel much different from before or w/e

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And I think they go back to being more living than undead since a mosquito lands on her cheek and drinks some of her blood

earnest jungle
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Okay Jellico describes the land of the dead as "a deadland underwater... ...ruled by an insect on the moon with a brain among the stars and a body as hollow as air." In Chapter Eight of Tide of Corruption

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And on a side note LYNCH FOUNDED THE FUCKING KNIGHTS TEMPLARS!

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That is assuming that the witch refered to in Chapter 11 of that same event is in fact Lynch

granite shard
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Lmao lynch is the gaslight gatekeep girlboss queen

earnest jungle
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If I understand things correctly the Sculptor is not the moon but lives on the moon, and Chary tried to use the moon's power to fight the Sculptor but has only suceeded in making the moon vulnerable to the sculptor.

granite shard
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That could be it. I’m not certain the sculptor is the one that rules the land of the dead. It certainly has influence on it but there’s also other things that could be in charge

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I’d totally believe chary made the moon more vulnerable to it lol

earnest jungle
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The Lord of the Dead certainly seems a distinct though ambivalent entity

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But does the lord of the dead rule the land of the dead or the just the dead themselves

granite shard
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I wonder if it’s something beyond all of them tbh

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Like the moon/lord of the dead might be on one tier of power

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Then the sculptor

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And then whatever rules the land of the dead, but it’s almost beyond caring on all that stuff

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Thinking of the “brain in the stars” but

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Bit*

real dove
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My understanding was that the sculptor is using the moon as a mirror, and that the moon is fighting back by reflecting the plague to only louisiana

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i thought there was some part of SM or TM that mentions this, but will have to go look back to find it

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Def curious to see if we find out what/who the Lord of the Dead is

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and also tailcoat man. Unless he is explained and I'm jsut dum

mint wind
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What if Lynch/the Demented monster/The Lord of the Dead become a new boss 👀

warm quartz
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🤯

rotund ferry
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Either Lynch or Beekeeper is new wild target

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We still have two confirmed wild targets to recieve and I'll be damned if one of them isn't a giant bug or Lycan

real dove
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both both both

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lemme track a WW boss via claw marks on the trees

night cliff
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I think more wild targets are still far away
With the new map and everything else getting closer

mint wind
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So many people died in the story tho, the Cleaver and the Helmsman :(

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Also LaFitte

granite shard
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I wonder if they're gonna do an alternating release schedule of like, a map one year, and then a year or two years of new targets/actual bosses

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I don't think we'll ever get yearly maps, but one big release a year makes sense

real dove
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probably. I'd not be shocked if we DID get another boss (roaming) next year

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but not shocked if we only get map

rotund ferry
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Oh well, as long as Burnt Marshall and Lloroma stay fine

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Oh and Sgt. Bridgewater too

granite shard
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burnt marshall and llorona's heir might be dead lol

mint wind
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The Rat apparently killed him along with a bunch of other Smugglers.

granite shard
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they're in the murky "the death pact shot up the infernal pact's event" status

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the rat ripped apart some people but the helmsman wasn't named as a ripped apart person

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so he's in a murky spot

rotund ferry
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Remember Infernal pact has a large following

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I'm confident they survived and made it out

granite shard
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I mean it's not impossible that they're alive, it's just also very possible that they died

rotund ferry
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Nah not possible at all

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They lived for sure

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100% alive

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Can't tell me other wise

mint wind
granite shard
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Like, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s dead but it’s a distinct possibility he’s alive

agile fable
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The helmsman was with two other smugglers those are the ones the rat and captain ripped apart

silver cargo
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I got to the final chapter and I didn't understand an effin thing

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are the drowned restored, or were they just spat back out in the bayou as they were?

granite shard
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pretty sure they were restored

lucid anvil
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Is the devils advocate dead? I’m not sure. I remember he was alive last event right?

granite shard
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could be alive, could be dead

lucid anvil
mint wind
icy brook
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https://youtu.be/K7OAGegA1Hs?si=CQzi2kjX7J_PxDat

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WiseFish
The Dark Mysterious Origins Of Hunt Showdown | The Louisiana Event ...

The origins of Hunt Showdown is extremely cryptic and mysterious with only some clippings off articles giving us a rough idea. So in this episode we look into what could have been the the event known as the Louisiana Event and how that influenced the Hunt Showdown universe.

More Lore Videos: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrsgkJKXTSoi9PIcA...

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A great explanation of old lore

rotund ferry
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Nah he alive too

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Nothing happened to Infernal buddies

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They all still kickin'

vivid crystal
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is Sheriff Hardin still around?

granite shard
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yes

plain cloud
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what is the lore for prices going up way back?

paper zodiac
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inflation

rotund ferry
mild marten
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Volcanic pistols maybe? happycat

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Basically a levering pistol xD

wicked osprey
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pls give

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i want

thick sierra
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they should make a ttrpg out of this

alpine ferry
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About the Frisk family. There is Leonel Frisk (Lonely Howl), Remus Frisk (Dire Wolf) and Felicia Frisk (Luna Wolf).
First question - Is Lionel son to both or is Remus brother to him?
Second question - Why did Lionel fled his family to Bayou?
Third question - Why did Remus and Felicia follow him?

granite shard
alpine ferry
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Thank you

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Quite unique lore behind such family

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Lonely Howl my favorite anyways

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out of all legendary hunters

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his DLC is on top anyways

warm quartz
alpine ferry
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I like this detail

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Whats wrong with it?

warm quartz
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It just looks silly

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Like mountain man's floppy head

warm quartz
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What's up with bloodlines trailer

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It was trailer to nothing

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And has dates all jumbled

vivid crystal
upbeat kiln
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Does anyone have an insight into why Doctor Huff Jones tried to assassinate Sheriff Hardin? The only "lead" I can find, is that it had something to do with Lynch.

mint wind
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Maybe Hardin was being troublesome 🤷‍♂️

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He's one of the few good souls of Hunt.

upbeat kiln
mint wind
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That's already something ig. Compared to the Cleaver or Billy...

granite shard
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tbh I think he's a lot more like

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standard lawful evil

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he's really willing to just totally fuck people over to get his own power

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like framing that guy as a serial killer so he could become sheriff

mint wind
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Tho ever since the outbreak, most of what we had was him trying to help people.

granite shard
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he did send a bunch of children to their death

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to the point where it's memorialized in the land of the dead

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idk, I think he's an interestingly complex character where he does a lot of really bad things, while ostensibly doing things for the "greater good"

rare dirge
upbeat kiln
granite shard
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lmao

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he was just feeling a little silly that day

upbeat kiln
real dove
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baseball bat stuff if I recall

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He framed the Bane

granite shard
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not the bane

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the diamond killer

real dove
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Oh

granite shard
real dove
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right. But still baseball

granite shard
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yup!

real dove
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oop just saw

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diamond killer, umpire bane, eh, sportsball dudes

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lol

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just gonna say... football was invented in 1869

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not dressed the same as now obv, but... could have more sportsballs

granite shard
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the parallels he paints between hardin & the previous corrupt sheriff I think are interesting

real dove
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hardin is a big player with the AHA i suspect. He's who links Private Eye in, the kids, etc... wonder if weathers was sending the vagrants out just as hardin did the kids, or if he was just a murderer who got off on killing the easily missed

granite shard
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I think things only really kicked off in 93 so I think weathers was just regular corrupt

real dove
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fair, and dunno if id call killing people corruption lol

rotund ferry
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You wnat the funniest Hunt lore convo I ever had.

upbeat kiln
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I can't find the journal of Candice - what entry is that in? I thought it was one of the Scottfields

night cliff
noble scarab
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she had a more recent one too, with one of the krags i think

upbeat kiln
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Thank you, guys ❤️

dusky bay
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re the blue light from the gameplay stream: is that a map change at kingsnake?

granite shard
dusky bay
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right, but is it actually in the map?

granite shard
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yes

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it came with the new event

dusky bay
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sweet

granite shard
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like the big trees and burnt wheat

dusky bay
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i started playing again during the event, so idk anything

real dove
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@upbeat kiln

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swear she's got the cent blunt as well.

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Trauma!

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She's got an entry in the trauma.

rotund ferry
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Also @upbeat kiln I love your hunt lore videos.have you considered doing one on the events of Darktide.

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As for my funniest hunt lore discussion well A fellow hunbt player said team RWBy wouild do well in the world of hunt dhowdown.

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I said hell no then I told them to look up how hives are created then look up the origin of Meatheads.

upbeat kiln
granite shard
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fuckedupcat one day we'll get something to easily reference what hunters have lore where

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like I've memorized where to find my favorites but half the time when I try and remember what hunters had things where it just is me going to the wiki and clicking through each gun until I find what I'm looking for

zenith perch
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So what Hunters that we can play as do yall think are definitely Witches/Warlocks

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So far I think it's: Gar, Beekeeper, the Night Seer, and maybe Bone Doctor but I don't really count him

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Cause Voodoo is its own thing

vivid crystal
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is there any lore reason as to why we have a time limit in our matches?

upbeat kiln
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Except for those who can

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lol

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It's not very consistent

vivid crystal
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I thought it was something like that, I get some people are simply constructed alternatively

lucid anvil
rotund ferry
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I'm assuming there's a whole lot of corruption through the Graven path

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a ton of hunters went in and only a few came out alive

real dove
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We've got several versions of the innoc, tho seems rn the one we are getting is the demon version from Lynch. There are records of folks being more immune (redneck) but in the end spend too much time in the corrupted region you're gonna get got one way or the other.

torpid light
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Is there any Lore explanation about the water in the game ? We have shipyards, docks and other ship related stuff. It would be ok, if these facilities produced only boats and yachts, but on De-Sale we have a quite big steamboat, but the water level in the area isnt higher than a waist. Is there some kind of supernatural drought happened in the game lore ?

rare dirge
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CANDIAN HUNTER

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I BEEN WAITIN

restive patrol
# rare dirge CANDIAN HUNTER

prob going to come with a centennial skin, given the Royal Mounted Police bought 750 around that time. https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/83/1020/northwest-mounted-police-winchester-model-1876-carbine. I really hope that they are wearing the red coat, but not holding my breath.

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rare dirge
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these guys were pretty sick

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im hoping for the redcoat

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too iconic not to imo

warm quartz
rare dirge
warm quartz
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How come we get canadians before we get a texas ranger

rare dirge
night cliff
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What? a Canadian hunter?!
I’m Very happy you will finally get on, Silver!

real dove
night cliff
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I could very well be wrong but I think there was mentioned somewhere that something caused the water to not flow as much as it used to.

I do think that Darin’s shipyard looks a bit misplaced tho

mint wind
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So would Port Reeker too tbh.

real dove
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yeah. both a fairly land locked all things considered

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Darins makes less sense as there's a waterfall one way, and bridges the other. Assuming ships build there would have to go past bolden to get out

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reeker idk all together

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assuming that the water there has been lower for a long time, but also the church. Dunno. It doesn;t make sense as a "port" in the traditional sense

mint wind
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That's also just game limitations. You shouldn't be able to walk like that in the bayou's waters, it's too deep and dangerous to begin with.

real dove
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yeah, as I said above

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Cant really have it being swim sim

mint wind
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It is what it is.

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Darin is indeed quite weird, but Stillwater's feedback told the devs players do not want more vast areas of water.

real dove
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yarp. mostly guessing we dont see logic with the port and darin for gameplay

mint wind
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So there's just a big one in front of the building and then that's it.

real dove
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Darin and bolden could swap

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not that they will

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but would be more like the fishery

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in terms of locical placement.

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ah it's 7 am and im sleepy. logical

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Darin was once a very profitable shipyard

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lore wise

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but like... where the boats go>

mint wind
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Well on that same note, why do you have so many people at Lawson's station where the only thing close to a town there is the parish. You even have a prison and 3 military buildings.

real dove
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I'd hazard the station is there because of the prison, not that I have any more to back it up

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lore

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But also afaik there is no rail between

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dunno. Convenience stop

mint wind
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The amount of luggages suggest you'd have just people going there to visit. But there isn't anything to visit lol.

real dove
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yeah, thought the same thing

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if it was close to a mill or such for transport that's make sense

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sweetwater

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god i cant recall what it's purpose it

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is

mint wind
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Even if it's quite hard to not see, we're still overthinking it XD

real dove
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oh for sure

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they mad a bunch of locations for the game

mint wind
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Sweetbell ? That's just a water mill, no ?

real dove
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yes, but mills served a purpose

mint wind
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Press wheat ig.

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There isn't much to it at least to my poor knowledge.

real dove
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ground wheat/corn etc, would track to have a way to sell that/transport elsewhere

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easier to use water to grind then manual/animals

mint wind
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To the parish maybe.

real dove
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still

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lmao

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overthinking

mint wind
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yeah lol

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At least Godard and the DeSalle parts make big sense.

grave minnow
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There you go now everything makes sense

real dove
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lol I was actually gonna offer this as an explanation earlier but then the truck rolled in and had to go check it

grave minnow
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We have to make our little hunt world believable...LOL

rotund ferry
topaz light
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The old map has changed a lot

rotund ferry
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Tell me Louisiana is French without telling me Louisiana is French.

green pollen
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Not lore but new gun variation idea

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rotund ferry
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Nagant officer hatchet?

green pollen
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Fuck it yeah sure

high stone
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Haha - I think there aren’t more medium size ‘reverse’ combo weapon styles because you might end up pointing the muzzle at yourself while swinging them

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I think they SHOULD add brawler variants for the vandals/shorty lever guns, put some knuckle studs on the lever loop

knotty yew
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what is the drowned pact exactly?

rotund ferry
# knotty yew what is the drowned pact exactly?

"Unleashed from the Land of the Dead, The Drowned pact roams the Bayou. They are plagued with bloat and the curses of sunken ships. Each Drowned struggles to save their fate from sinking once more." DrownedPact

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direct quote from the event information

reef quail
warm quartz
river socket
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What’s this book

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warm quartz
river socket
warm quartz
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What's the name of Reptilian's Ward ritual scarring?

river socket
thick sierra
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How and why did funny fur coat man die?

real dove
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which one

granite shard
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Billy story had his throat slit by sofia (presumably)
Black coat’s not dead

rotund ferry
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Black coat was dead but came back during tide of corruption

real dove
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?

granite shard
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he was not dead

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there's nothing that states he came back from the dead within ToC and seems more like BATS exaggerated his confrontation w the twins

rotund ferry
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He was never dead to begin with then?

granite shard
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yes

real dove
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yes

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BATS cannot be taken as hard fact

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I have no doubt he and twins had a fight

rotund ferry
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Oh wow interesting

granite shard
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there are several researchers notes that mention how BATS should be taken both as utter nonsense and the gospel truth

real dove
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but it's looking like he was not killed in that interaction (or lynch raised him after they killed him)

rotund ferry
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Black coat be like

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granite shard
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BATS seems to be a situation where you should take everything in it as fact, until it's contradicted somewhere

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and then go w the contradiction as the truth

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which imo is a cool way of handling the way lore is presented through different sources

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where not all are reliable

real dove
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imo we got a nod from the devs with the statues of what lore is real and what lore isnt

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with the statues in the LOD

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"real"

granite shard
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yeah

real dove
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and new lorebook will also help i hope

rotund ferry
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I hope if LOD becomes a map we get those statues around the map

real dove
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same

granite shard
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I doubt we're getting a lotd map any time soon

rotund ferry
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I'd love to see the Rotjaw with Enola and Gar in her mouth

rotund ferry
real dove
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duo team and go fight her 😉

rocky yoke
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how long would it take someone to write out a summary of the lore that i could read in under 20 minutes

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like start to finish i know basically 0 lore

high stone
granite shard
high stone
# river socket What’s this book

I always thought this was a cultist gospel - and that they would build more on some weird occultist beliefs/practices that were connected to some people (like Huff-Jones) and maybe members of the AHA, and directly related to the strange events in HUNT….this was before the lore became completely schizophrenic…the books have been there since Hunt started, IIRC…at least since i’ve been playing, anyway

high stone
river socket
sudden arch
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Lynch will be the witch. @ me when this is true

sudden arch
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Hellhounds are mastiffs

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Being a woman in the bayou is shit tier, either die becoming a hive, or give birth and die to meatheads

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Lynch is a cool woman who is like a gray jedi, gets cool powers since birth from the evil shit but hates the evil shit. Disappeared

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American Hunter Association are like these old monster hunters that came in to stop the evil. In over their heads, mostly defunct.

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Everyone is an unreliable narrator so the rest barely matters.

dusky bay
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What do we know about the sculptor so far? I read the ToC entries from this event, but I'm not even sure if he literally sculpts stuff or if he petrifies people or some shit

high stone
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I think they only mention it a few times? It’s very vague, really no extra context, “…might be dealing with a Sculptor” … we can grasp at straws, but I’m guessing it has never been planned out

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The name makes it sound like it was just a filler detail in the flavor content of the original lore entries - I doubt it was ever meant to be taken this seriously by fans, haha

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I see someone made a TV Tropes entry for it, people are really running away with it!

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“We the demented, vow to let the Sculptor make of us the Sculpted..” ???

thick sierra
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why did sophia kill billy story

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he was based

granite shard
real dove
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@rocky yoke Dunno about what the folk above posted. Bunny was a german shepherd per the lore, who likely became the first hellhound. The hellhounds we have aren't really based on sheepers tho either in body, but the OG was a german sheepy named Bunny (for his ears).
The Sculptor is an otherworldly being that is most def NOT the moon. Moon is a totally dif spirit who is actively trying to limit the sculptor's powers to Louisiana. IMO the sculptor is a cthulu style monster that can not actually be defeated- just put back into the hell box until it's powerful enough to get out once more. Old hunt lore has multiple over the centuries, this one is bug based, hence the chitin on armored, leeches, hives, etc...
The Hunter Association is a global group that fight back against the supernatural. The American Branch had several regions- the Louisiana one has gone belly up with the death of Finch and Huff, and the pacts separating the hunters out. The innoc they took also makes them super bloodthirsty, so doubt that helped.
Women in the swamps do get the worst, but we do have female grunts and Hunters. The Innoc sterilizes you- the meathead came from a hunter that didnt get it, got knocked up, and gave birth to the meathead. AFAIK that's the only meathead- the rest are replicas sculpted by the sculptor, who doesnt really appear to make new shit but instead copy and pastes things it likes.

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@granite shard lmk if there's any errors in that, angry wrote it

thick sierra
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nvm not based

warm quartz
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She is evil

sudden arch
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How so

sudden arch
real dove
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the boss was created by a human

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it's literally in his lore. he was rezzed in a lightning storm

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all creatures are copies of 1 original being

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Bunny, the german shepherd turned hellhound, was the OG hellhound. The rest are copies. The Meathead was the child of a hunter. The waterdevils are probably the only non-copy i can think of- they undoubtedly can and have spread from their origin

warm quartz
mint wind
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So the only non repeated creatures would be the water devils, the ghouls and the hives ?

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To some extent (all creatures ended up being copied).

real dove
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Hives could also be copies. the OG one was the mother of... ada? in the hive lore. But the kid also had a hive growing in her, so could be something that is homegrown

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yeah

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most everything is likely copy pasted now

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from the flesh clay under the earth. I'm not an expert, just not agreeing with dude above

mint wind
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I do think many women became hives during the outbreak. A handful became Armoreds, only one notable Immolator and Meathead.

real dove
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As many creatures as we kill- even in the lore they express frustration about killing things over and over with no end to the monsters- I'd think the sculptor is pasting as fast as we kill

mint wind
real dove
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agreed. I suspect most stuff is really from 1 og creature, that the sculpty went "this is mine now" and farted out a bunch of knockoffs

mint wind
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The sculptor be like :

thick sierra
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bro thinks he's him but hes just a bug on the moon doing cosmic plagiarism

real dove
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lol

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posted before, but basically how i feel about sculpty

high stone
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I don’t think any of the enemies are “copies”….I think enjoying the game just requires the smallest suspension of disbelief..all the enemy types are part of the game mechanics and design, and it’s impossible to have each instance be unique

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It doesn’t seem like a stretch to me to think that the hive transformation happened to lots of women..

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Maybe they should change the lore? The meathead story never felt like a satisfying explanation

halcyon thistle
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Looks like they've added the new Mountie hunter to the upcoming DLC page on Steam

earnest jungle
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And said hunter has revealed that the Cult of the Demented has spread as far North as Canada… either that or this is yet another example of Europeans not understanding that the North America is really really big

halcyon thistle
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Right, I thought that part was particularly interesting. Perhaps that's a hint that the new map may be based in the North? Additionally, has this John Victor fellow appeared elsewhere in the lore?

granite shard
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I think it's possible that things have spread-- people have come to the hunt from across the US and have also run away from the hunt

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what gun had the guy going fuck this shit I'm out?

earnest jungle
granite shard
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I wonder if like, people leaving has had an impact

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like they might be innoculated but they still carry some form of the corruption w them

earnest jungle
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While John Victor is not a major character he has a nack for being in the orbit of major characters in the story.

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He was one of the first hunters to encounter the Spider and believes he was personally responsible for creating it.

granite shard
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every time he comes up, I'm always struck by how goofy a name John Victor is

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two first name having dumbass 😂

earnest jungle
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I think his actual name is John Voelkel

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And he just anglicized Voelkel to Victor when he immigrated

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He also has some kind of history with Lynch and risked life and limb to try and warn the Twins that Lynch was not to be trusted

granite shard
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maybe? I thought the hunter in the tutorial was him

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and he sounded pretty natively southern

earnest jungle
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That’s right

granite shard
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guess he could have immigrated as a baby and his parents had to change their name

earnest jungle
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Or it could be a John Wayne situation

granite shard
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also this is off topic from john victor but I wonder if the mountie's gonna get tied up w the night of the hunter cult

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mostly due to the writing on his coat and he also had infernal pact trait art on his wall

real dove
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was rereading some of the stuff to find the bit about "this is the first form of blahblahblah (Bunny gun has it for the hellhounds)" and apparently the Twins had a connection to the NOTH cult

earnest jungle
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He’s also on top of being the character who guides the player through the Tutorial the guy who narrated the Tide of Corruption trailer I think.

real dove
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in the john Victor Mosin stuff

granite shard
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tide of corruption trailer I think is a different voice actor

real dove
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at the least, they had a sheet with the NOTH logo

granite shard
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george something has done a lot of the trailer voice overs

rare dirge
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AAAAAAAAAAA

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WOOOOO

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YPPIIEE

real dove
rare dirge
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also whoever said the cent was prob gonna be the skin that comes with him was right

real dove
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don't think it's a case of them not knowing that the US is wayyyy bigger than the EU

granite shard
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the next map will probably either be canada or northern US

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riding distance from where a mountie would be

earnest jungle
real dove
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sure

granite shard
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maybe the alberta area?

rare dirge
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you would NOT want the alberta area

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its for sure gonna be US somewhere

granite shard
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why not alberta? lol

rare dirge
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too cold

granite shard
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luckily when playing hunt showdown I do not have to be impacted by the map's weather 😂

rare dirge
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peak winter cain would unironically keel over and die within minutes of getting there

granite shard
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good

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I have a friend who actually just moved to calgary like last night

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their family lives there and they're like "yea cost of living is cheaper than toronto so"

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but yea I feel like alberta would be cool bc mountains and cold so it would be a totally new sort of biome for hunt

rare dirge
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i live in edmonton

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too cold

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not many hunters would actually be good in the clothin they in

green pollen
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If they had it be all foresty and cold, somewhere in the Appalachians would fit since it’s still in the south

real dove
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i mean, desalle doesn't exactly scream "Louisiana"

green pollen
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I’ve been wondering where desalle exactly is since I don’t know if the ground is like that anywhere in Louisiana

granite shard
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it's supposedly south of new orleans

real dove
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lmao

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south of ner orleans is swamp

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def not rocks

granite shard
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lmao yea

green pollen
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Like muddy swamp too

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I was thinking somewhere in Texas, but if it’s supposed to be south of New Orleans then idk

real dove
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texas i could see

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that would make way more sense

granite shard
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I'm glad it doesn't visually look like south of new orleans bc it's such a nice visual difference but yea it's silly that it's supposed to be there

green pollen
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Odd

real dove
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maybe in Hunt the Appa Mountains are below New Orleans

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I think some of the locations being off stuff is due to them possibly not originally having plans for a "story"

green pollen
real dove
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lol

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neither does having desalle below new oleans

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yes

green pollen
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Also, why does Lawson delta still have so much civil war stuff lying around. I understand the fort and trenches and stuff but entire cannons just strewn about

real dove
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yet

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here we are

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Oh! They explained that one. They just straight up didnt have time to clean it all up apparently. I think it's in one of the location lore bits

green pollen
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Oh, neat!

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I’m trying to look for a location in Texas that fits the rocky yet bald crypressy look of de salle

real dove
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gl

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fort car was essentially abandoned. likely it wasn't worth the effort to reclaim/move the cannons, but also I'm sure they liked the idea of having the cannons/balls/etc still there 25 years after the CW

green pollen
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Yeah

granite shard
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ok desalle might be north of NO. I thought one of the book of weapons bits mentioned it being south of NO but the teasers for desalle said to head north to it

real dove
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way north

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cause

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ocean

green pollen
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Yeah

earnest jungle
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All you really need to do to make a cannon inoperable is to shove a metal spike into the touch hole and it’s now impossible to fire

earnest jungle
granite shard
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let me see if I can't find what I had been looking at that made it seem south of it

earnest jungle
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In the Song Dark in New Orleans the Port Sulfur band says they’re heading South to New Orleans.

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And in in the lore for The Port Sulfur Band they were in DeSalle when the town fell to the Sculptor and they fought their way out.

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In the DeSalle saloon you can actually see a picture of the band.

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This is also what the “Two above; three below” lyric references. As the band lost three of its two members in their escape from DeSalle

granite shard
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I feel like I had been looking at something else, but it might have been the lemat carbine lore that made me put desalle south of NO, or at least them being pretty close together since sister sophie angeline mentions one of the shootout victims being placed in at the gates

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so like they're close enough for lulu & sofia to transport the body & the news to spread within a week

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lulu and sofia off seducing a nun while hardin's investigating their murder spree lmao

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(I say within a week bc the desalle shootout is dated sometime around the last week of June 95 based on the scottfield swift lore for reference)

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earnest jungle
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It’s worth noting that they found the Journal at the Convent in New Orleans.

granite shard
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yeah, my assumption there was this first entry was all there, and then the ironside half of the lore was elsewhere in the bayou

earnest jungle
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It’s a distinct possibility that the Journal was written elsewhere and then taken to the Convent at some later point.

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After all if Sophie-Angeline was stationed in New Orleans she would already know the Bishop coming to visit her is her abuser because New Orleans is the seat of Diocese of New Orleans.

earnest jungle
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New Orleans doesn’t have a bishop

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As it is the seat of the archdiocese it doesn’t have a bishop it has an Archbishop.

granite shard
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could it not be a bishop from another area?

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despite being raised catholic I do not know much abt like. how bishops work

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I was going to make a chess joke abt their movement but I forget if they're the diagonal or straight forward ones

earnest jungle
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Bishops move diagonally.

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And the way the Catholic Theocracy works is that areas where Catholics live are divided into territories that are overseen by Archbishops and those areas are then subdivided into smaller areas overseen by Bishops and those areas are subdivided into parishes which are based around churches who have Priests and Deacons

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We could also be over thinking this.

granite shard
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very possible lol

earnest jungle
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The gun fight at DeSalle killed two people and entailed the post mortem mutilation of the dead after which one of the only two survivors - himself a prominent ranch owner - disappeared. That would be national news even in 1895.

granite shard
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but I do have to wonder how much stuff would have been getting suppresed by that point

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in regards to that's pretty much right before tide of shadows happened, so desalle was already getting hit by sculptor stuff

earnest jungle
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A massacre like what happened would have been impossible to suppress

granite shard
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I want to know at what point desalle became a dead zone

earnest jungle
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I think we might just have to chalk this up to gameplay and story segregation.

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Because while the maps we play in are devoid of civilians the lore itself seems to portray DeSalle as at the very least being semi populated as late as July of 1895.

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Does anyone know where the first part of the interview with Fenelle Cleve is?

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The second and thirst are in Vetterli lore but I don’t remember where the first part is

earnest jungle
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Found it!

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By the by the lore entry for the Lebel Aperture is missing so some one who knows how to edit wikis should add it

granite shard
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oh cool, I was trying to find what guns released around the time of the silenced vetterli and wasn't having any luck

earnest jungle
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Okay here’s what I got: as with other regions of Louisiana the corruption in DeSalle started slowly in the 1890s and then snowballed out of control in 1894 and 95.

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As in Lawson and Stillwater the corruption was identified as a disease but while those communities responded with quarantines and evacuations DeSalle responded by ignoring the problem.

real dove
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Is there any link for desalle being fall to the other two being (assume) spring/summer?

earnest jungle
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The environment for one

real dove
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Wasn't sure if there was a written lore reason

earnest jungle
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The Trees in DeSalle are all in their autumn colors which was part of the reason I thought the time line was finally advancing and dismayed by the know the Moon Trilogy and the first chapter of the Tides Trilogy tied the timeline into.

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But we’re not getting into the fact that 1895 sequence of Tide of Shadows simultaneously takes place before, during, and after Devil’s Moon and As Bad as They Seem

real dove
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Bad as they seem definitely takes place during the moons and tides

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Which is fine because it's not an event or anything

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The moons don't take place during the tides, Lisa is not as I can tell

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Tides are fall. Mom s are summer

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Moons

earnest jungle
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Tide of Shadows takes place in July

granite shard
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I've been thinking abt the timeline recently

real dove
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Need to go to PC lmao, can't type on phone for shit

earnest jungle
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Because that’s when Rotjaw first appears

granite shard
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and I do think that it's possible for the moon events to have started before BATS

real dove
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Rotjaw appears, yes, but the event actually happens after

granite shard
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or at least just after huff was killed

earnest jungle
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Chary rose to power after Huff was killed

real dove
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Or the culmination

granite shard
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like, finch brings chary into the AHA sometime before huff's death

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and so he has time to build rapport between him and hunters, and then after huff's death the schism starts

real dove
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Herg I need my timeline

granite shard
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so it could be a short time between huff's death and traitor's moon

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I still think the timeline there is kinda fucky bc kevin chases after chary for at least a month

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if they push huff's death to jan/feb 95 I think things would work better

real dove
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The mortar practice going on out here is wild. Sounds like someone keeps slamming a dumpster down. Bleh.

earnest jungle
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To explain my frustrations. In Traitors Moon it is established that Chary is the new Administrator of the American Hunters Association. Which means Traitor’s moon must take place after Lynch killed him. Serpents moon takes place several weeks after that, and Devil’s moon an indeterminate time after that.

real dove
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Issue is, huff was alive until May at least

earnest jungle
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The problem is Huff was killed sometime after June of 1895

real dove
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June?

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His last written latter is may

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We have the letter from his son, sure

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But

granite shard
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I mean I totally get your frustration w the timeline bc I think it's really fucky rn too

real dove
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He could very well be dead and son didn't know yet

granite shard
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they retconned the cascade mountain stuff for an unknown reason w the wayfarer, and the teche wraith's name for apparently cultural reasons, so I don't think them going back and changing dates for huff would be that bad

real dove
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Agreed

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Hoping the lore book will help

granite shard
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are we confirmed to be getting a lore book?

real dove
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Bats def occurs over all the events

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Dunno

granite shard
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like in game book of lore not an actual published lore book lol

real dove
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I'm assuy

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Yea

granite shard
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(tho that would slap)

real dove
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Assuming

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I hope we get one in game

earnest jungle
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The letter still proves Huff is a alive

real dove
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?

granite shard
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but I feel like what happened was they had like Flavor Lore set up early on and weren't planning on hunt running this long, but suddenly it's a pretty successful game and now they're having to expand things more but they had been wanting to keep things to '95 (with the plan to expand into '96 w a big thing like the map) and kinda got fucked w timeline stuff bc of that

real dove
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I could write a letter to Lincoln rn, would that prove he's still alive?

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Yeah, agreed

earnest jungle
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The letter details Victor Caldwell’s sniper attack on the compound that attack occurred June 27th 1895

granite shard
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is that the one signed "-P"?

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if so, there's been speculation that letters signed -P are from huff's son

earnest jungle
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Yes that one

real dove
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Yes

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-p is son

granite shard
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not confirmed, but potentially

earnest jungle
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It’s labeled “Correspondence Phillip Huff Jones”

granite shard
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idk he died somewhere between may and june 95

earnest jungle
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Meaning Huff has to be either the author or recipient of the letter

real dove
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The son is named after dad, right

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There's other letters of son writing to dad

earnest jungle
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If it’s the son (if the son is even a character) then it would be Philip Huff Jones Jr.

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There are two possibilities either Huff is writing to his Father; or it is Huff’s son writing to him either case indicates Huff was alive as later as June 1895

granite shard
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it's unclear if it's Huff Sr to his dad, or Huff Jr to Sr

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idk, I think they just need to push dates back

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I know some people would be mad abt a retcon that big but I think that it would be beneficial to the story as a whole to do a review of old lore and adjust timeline stuff to have things make sense going forward

earnest jungle
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At this point I’m willing to write off everything before Autumn of 1895 as happening in a time knot

real dove
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BORNHEIM MASTERY

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oop

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on pc now

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it has jones takintg to son

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talking

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jesus

granite shard
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do you just... have caps lock on by default on your pc 😂

real dove
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herg

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i was playing palworld

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or lethal comp

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p[rolly lethal and got excited

granite shard
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haha

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finch and chary probably joined the hunt at the same time in may

real dove
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i'd guess chary has been sniffing around for a while

granite shard
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so I think there is something to be said for TM happening within a month of huff's death

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Chary was brought into the hunt by finch

real dove
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finch joined the ranks of drs at the asylum in april

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or may

granite shard
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they had a whole dinner thing where finch brought chary in-- it's what chary recreated in his dramatic thing in ToC

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it's may

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real dove
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right

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finch first mentioned in april mb

granite shard
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but yeah shrug emoji I think they just need to push back the huff timeline stuff into late 94/early 95

real dove
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sorry for smol

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i took all the actuyal,. real dates i could find and put them in order

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got spelling is so hard

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Huff is dead sometime after may 21st, when his lasat letter is written

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tmoon happens in june, but could be earlier if he's not in charge yet perse

granite shard
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I feel like moon/tides together don't have an issue (moon could be may-june, and tides July-Nov) but the huff stuff just needs to be adjusted

real dove
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going off the dates, that's what I wrote up. def can be wrong

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idgaf about bats

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in terms of timeline

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the twins are running around doing who knows what

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with the actual events, that's the best i can fit them

granite shard
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most of BATS I don't care abt, it's mostly the collapse of the AHA due to huff's death that matters to me

real dove
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yeah

granite shard
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like, that does make it frustrating to figure out how things fit together since huff's death is what allows chary to rise to power but it doesn't feel like we really have a long enough time for that and the moon trilogy to happen

real dove
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i suspect chary was already doing stuff before huffs death

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only suspect since he came with winter solstice

granite shard
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idk, it's the sort of thing where they just need to come out and give more dates

real dove
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mhm

warm quartz
real dove
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yeah. i hope they drop in a lorebook, bring back the louisiana event book, but add in events and everything else, then add researcher notes and whatever else

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but at the same time, retcon/change dates to make sense

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i do think chary was active prior to huff's death

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just as finch was in the aha and the area before he joined the docs

earnest jungle
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If Huff is dead in May why would his son write a letter to a dead man

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Anyway you slice it Huff was alive in June 1895

warm quartz
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New hunter lore mentions Victor John

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And says Victor John talks in peoples' heads

green pollen
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Is there a way we could make a map of the corruption zone at least in Louisiana?

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Like, we know the zone is north of the zone but also had some oddities such as civil war junk and rocky hills.

dusky bay
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damn, 1895 was a packed year

rotund ferry
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I never noticed this before but the Polar star has something in Russian written on the cylinder and a map on the stock. Does anyone know what it says in Russian and what the map is?

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green pollen
high stone
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Yeah, it starts getting rockier, with more bluffs along the major rivers in northern Arkansas…I don’t think you see anything closer to DeSalle until much farther north, like Illinois

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Oh well

still quest
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So it's up near the Ozarks?

rotund ferry
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Ozarks is Missouri

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they start in Arkansas and stretch upward into Missouri

high stone
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I remember discussions about it when Desalle was introduced… there’s a parish “LaSalle” in LA, but the terrain doesnt really match, and there’s a 17th French explorer, “Cavelier de La Salle”, who surveyed the Mississippi river… so maybe it’s somewhere up the mississippi? It probably doesn’t reference any real place.

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Maybe it’s just supposed to help transition us, for when the next Rocky map comes out

earnest jungle
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It’s actually a perfect example of how we as fans can often overthink our theories about the game and see symbolism and significance where there is none.

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I personally remember reading up about architectural styles and geography to try to get a figure on where DeSalle could be located…

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And the devs then just flst out say they wanted to play around with creating a map with an old west feel but weren’t ready to leave Louisiana yet. So despite being set in a mountainous region this is still supposed to be Louisiana

mint wind
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It's the mountains of Louisiana.

high stone
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It seems like many of the players only comprehend the game as “Cowboy stuff…you know, Gun, Hat..”

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And Crytek willl cater to that paying wild west crowd more and more, because those players don’t respond as well to the Southern Gothic/ Victorian horror stuff, which is too bad

green pollen
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God i hope they don't cater to much. I love the southern gothic feel. If they are going to move however, midwest goth would be a nice step in direction.

granite shard
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Honestly the misconception that hunt is supposed to be more western as opposed to more southern gothic is frustrating

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Like I enjoy the mix of western archetype characters alongside the more occult for sure but when people go “they’re forgetting their cowboy game roots” it’s so 🙄🙄🙄

real dove
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Hunt takes place in an era cowboys weren't really a thing anymore- esp in the south. Out in the actual west, yeah you'd still have em, but they weren't needed anymore (barb wire replaced em). I love the gothic feel of hunt. If Rockstar made a red dead open world supernatural game where you hunt and kill monsters same as hunt (with pvp, obv), I'd lose my mind. give me southern gothic witcher.

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but yeah, I get that the folks on the covers are "cowboys" but a lot of the OG art starred doc john too

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bone doc*

green pollen
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especially with this new map apparently being more north, we may be forced to go into a different gothic

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it's so hard to find good shooter games set during the 1890s, but i liked this one so much just cause of a unique location. Beside from red dead, when are you ever fighting in the gulf coast?

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never!

real dove
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yarp

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i'd be hype to see a northeast break map with a big city too

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we know there was an aha post in NYC

rotund ferry
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Apparently there was a full blown incident in New York iirc

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But it was contained I believe

real dove
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witch hunter was part of it

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dont recall much besides the AHA post was wiped out and she came here

green pollen
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I would actually fucking hate to fight in New York City. Too many windows, too many tight spaces…

proud scaffold
green pollen
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Exactly

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Unless they do something like L4D2 and board off a bunch of rooms and windows to make a small map

real dove
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I'd love a city map, larger version of Desalle but not as open building wise, agreed on the window stuff being annoying

woeful ferry
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I’ve been making a list of factions in Hunt both in game and in lore there any I’m missing?

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rotund ferry
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But yeah Witch hunter being a part of that lil' incident makes sense since she's from New England(?) iirc

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Or maybe Salem Massachusetts would make more sense

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But I thought I read somewhere she was from New England

mental flame
# woeful ferry I’ve been making a list of factions in Hunt both in game and in lore there any I...

There is also just the Voodoo community (Doc John, Weird Sister, etc). They have been assigned the Pacts (which kind of more so lean me in the direction of thinking the Pacts are more a game mechanic than anything else).

If the Pacts aren't Canonical We have a few factions of Former AHA, AHA Seperatists, Voodoo Community, The Lawmen (Hardin and his brood).

Then there are the minor 'factions'.
The easterners, don't know if they have a 'name' but their defining trait is being Asian. (Ronin and them)
The Frisk Siblings (Lonely Howl (Leonel), Remis, and their sister who I can't find the name of).
You've got the Dockhands.
Perchta Frau (Dusk and Dawn.)
amongst others.

But for the real factions I think we've got far fewer actual numbers. Mostly (lorewise) seems like random scattered bands fighting to earn a name and/or bring order to the Bayou. EDIT: and members of said bands shift as power shifts and collapse.

woeful ferry
woeful vigil
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Any youtubers that do videos about the lore you recommend?

woeful ferry
mental flame
# woeful ferry I hope we get pacts passed on the already establish factions someday, I like the...

See I think that's kind of the thing. The Pacts are just temporary truces amidst the various new things The Sculptor throws at the Bayou.

Big fire comes in and start giving people the power of some of the boss monsters? Better get the Fire resistant guy who can imbue that power to you on your side.

Need to make sure someone is dead and stays dead? Better get the guys who can see the dead through walls to keep em down.

The pacts are lore friendly but I doubt they're factions in their own right. Enemy of my Enemy is my friend type of stuff. That's why someone like Claeg who is KNOWN to only feel human when someone elses blood is on him otherwise he's a savage monster can stand side by side with the Weird Sister who is by lore a Voodoo healer. These two are drastically different and otherwise would never work together but they both have something to gain from the pact so yea...

I would also prefer an event to just have the AHA, Seperatists, Lawmen, etc as pacts though. But meh don't really know what perks the Lawmen could give xD

woeful ferry
mental flame
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Yep. Demented is an actual problem as they're hunters falling to The Sculptor and his influence. So the others put aside their differences to fight back. Cause NO ONE (with a clear mind) wants The Sculptor to have more power.

woeful ferry
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Which includes beast hunter, me and my friends don’t get the beast hunter on why he joined the demented pact. We all thought he wanted to just take the hellhounds but Monroe and came I can get

mental flame
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Yea... Beast Hunter is an enigma... the best I can figure is it's about the hounds... but maybe there is something more to him than meets the eye.

Also I need to ammend myself it wasn't weird sister in Death Pact... it was Deaths Herald. She and Claeg work a little better together... but still Claeg working with ANYONE is shocking... he's kind of... messed up.

woeful ferry
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I think when it come to Claeg I think he has something in him that just takes control of him with him knowing either something mental or something spiritual either way I think when I went with the death pact it was to find answers to what was controlling him and making him forget and kill or maybe he wanted to close deaths door because he felt he deserved death for killing his friend

mental flame
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Yea. Wish we had a little more lore about individual hunters. But we have SO MANY at this point it's impossible to flesh them all out.

woeful ferry
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I agree! Just for the next event give us more lore bits about the hunters, I wanna know what killbuyers favourite food, I wanna know what sheriff Hardin does in his off time, hell I wanna see a journal entry from Monroe and see how crazy he really is lol

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Now that I think of it, it’s probably better to keep us in the dark about some of the hunters, because I still wanna make theories about the hunters and they may or may not do

mental flame
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Yea. Too much information is a problem just as too little haha. It rides that line as it is so I dunno which way i'd prefer to fall so keeping it as is, is perfectly fine.

warm quartz
rotund ferry
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Wbt russian?

warm quartz
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Wait a bit, I'll mark it

warm quartz
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It's one fucked up trip

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Judging by the order on the cylinder

fast flare
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Hello, I don't understand what the community means when she talk about things that are canon or not

warm quartz
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@rotund ferry Новая земля - New Zemlya - New Land is an island, not a city

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It's marked as 3

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Also waterway here wasn't a thing at the time

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But still the trip doesnt really make sense

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You can read about irl Brusilov Expedition on wikipedia, but it was too different and the guy has a different name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brusilov_expedition

Brusilov expedition

The Brusilov expedition (Russian: Экспедиция Брусилова) was a Russian maritime expedition to the Arctic led by Captain Georgy Brusilov, which set out in 1912 to explore and map a route from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific via a northeast passage known as the Northern Sea Route. The expedition was ill-planned and ill-executed by Brusilov, and d...

fast flare
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It's probably just an astronomy reference

warm quartz
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Well, Ursa constellations kinda look like that, but they are different

rotund ferry
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@warm quartz thank you for all the information you provided! 🙏

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I'll have to read it over when I have some time

granite shard
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New blog post that gives some more details abt the drowned rat/kid

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Nothing super new but a nice summary on them

rare dirge
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This summary was nice

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The most interesting part and the part I’m surprised nobody pointed out is the fact we got confirmation the alters being created in tide of shadows story is made by the demented pact

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Like the one the rat was put on

granite shard
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Yeah the implication was there (the guy who was leading them was implied to be the butcher’s cleaver) but it’s nice seeing hard confirmation

rare dirge
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We love confirmation

granite shard
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I wonder what the rat was doing before the kid died since there was a like four month time span between her death and turner’s

rare dirge
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Y’know

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Dead people things

granite shard
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I guess the land of the dead’s relationship to time is weird so like

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Might not have been too long there

warm quartz
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Wonder why Turner was investigating her death

granite shard
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I feel like he was investigating the altars and stuff

rare dirge
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They knew eachother somewhat already

granite shard
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Like she was killed on one but also they were just set up everywhere

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But yeah they could have been friendly too

rare dirge
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They were both in the traitors moon event as the “event” hunters

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I know there wasn’t like established story back then

granite shard
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They were on opposing sides of DM based on bundles (she was I think infernal pact and he was lunar pact)

rare dirge
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I don’t think either were in a pact

granite shard
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There were pact bundles

rare dirge
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Ah bundles for buying

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Not like actually pledged in game

granite shard
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And the grounded pact trailer from DM had all of the hunters that were in the grounded bundle in it, so presumably the bundles all tied to allegiances in lore

rare dirge
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Some semblance of it at least

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I think they at least knew eachother

granite shard
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Yeah

rare dirge
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So when the kid found out she died from some wacky ass alter his silly ass went poking around

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Silly guy

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Also the new DLC got me really conflicted on what hunters I wanna be using now