#lore-discussion

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real dove
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main argument would be that they kill the same poor bastard hunter in almost all of them, but could just be they have his model and it's easier/cheaper to use him over and over than put another hunter in there

hasty raven
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I just took that as reusing models since the tier 1 hunters are supposed to be random nobodies

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They notably never kill legendary hunters in the trailers unless it's something like Revanent or Black Coat

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Oh and also, in the Dark Sight trailer, Hardin is teamed up with two tier 1 hunters, and then in the Private Eye/Hawkshaw trailer, those same hunters but as tier 2s are still accompanying him

real dove
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Fair. Honestly, Haven't watched a DLC trailer in ages, just the event ones, and they never have anything in them (IMO) that is super interesting to the lore outside of the devil moon showing the hunters in each pact

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Could still just be reusing assets tho. They clearly have a few high res hunters they rinse and reuse for each trailer

hasty raven
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It was clear continuity, I think that was intentional

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In that specific instance

real dove
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fair. not sure it means anything really tho, since they're just nameless bodies with him. Unless they've named the hunters they keep reusing?

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Kinda miss the days we only had 3 "factions" lol

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was easier when it was Lawmen, Voodoo, and Night Hunter Cult lol

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and it was obvious what you belonged to. I hope the next event makes it clearer what's going on with the AHA and finch- if he's been able to kinda pull it together some. Someone is still paying out for bounties

real dove
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Also, I wonder if Chary's powers are reduced since he's not getting blood sacrifices now?

white pasture
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@amber harbor Yes but it's an act of magic not inherent in hunters. They also regen on their own to a great degree. And can of course become "undead"

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@real dove what faction are the Christian types?

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I thought Night Hunters were the voodoo faction

real dove
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Naw, voodoo are bone doc and co, night seer and Co are night hunter cult

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I guess that was a forth section, I kinda tossed them into lawman since we really have what, the rev and Mary?

white pasture
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Night Hunters have Veve all over their equipment don't they?

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I'd imagine most aren't really aligned with any and some more directly involved with the AHA itself.

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Professor and such

white pasture
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I believe it also stated the factions didn't really come into power until after the AHA fell apart (kinda contradictes itself on this event) the infection overwhelmed the resistance and the zone became entirely uninhabited. I thought the original timeline was the AHA had broken down and its role was simply farming the energy from the tokens with an endless stream of desperate Hunters. Certainly no organized plan to end the corruption and simply containing it, farming it for energy and studying it. Most of the Legendaries and lore characters are experimenting and using the situation to gain power.

But most of the events state there are multiple organized efforts going on requiring lots of people and resources.

rotund ferry
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@white pasture here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYnCa0Pjz4o

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Night of the Hunter is a doomsday cult sort of like the real life "Aum Shinrikyo."

white pasture
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Yeah, but the symbols they all sport always assumed it was voodoo

rotund ferry
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Being a modernized civilized individual I believe those symbols they brandish are actually just batshit insane ramblings without any real authentication

white pasture
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I think its that Voynich script and generic occult shit

alpine finch
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Yo, so is wayward helmsman guy from the pelican or whatever that ghost ship thing is called?

red spear
rotund ferry
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That's the theory anyways

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We still don't actually know who the Captain is

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but considering how the Captain is described as "land-worn" and "cowardly" it's safe to assume that the Captain that Wayward is working for and the Captain of the Delphine are one in the same

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The same Captain also knew about the Delphine and the cargo she was carrying too

untold blaze
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What is that thing that the Delphine’s carrying anyways, isn’t it some weird eldritch bug head or some shit?

red spear
zenith plinth
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Oonga boonga, fire

untold blaze
untold blaze
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Is Gar canonically like dead dead

red spear
untold blaze
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So good chance she’s gonna come back, albeit prolly sad as fuck

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Cause she failed to take her throne atop the gator

rotund ferry
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She wanted to ride it but Cardinal Rain—basically her enemy #1 beat her to it

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Cardinal Rain also stopped the rain

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I also don't believe Cardinal Rain is dead despite her direct encounter with Rotjaw

untold blaze
white pasture
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What a dumb "story"

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Dozens of never before heard of concepts,characters and events none of them fleshed out.

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Be cooler if the event culminated in revealing Rotjaw. Clues and such lead up to it and have some type of elements in the lore be present in the Bayou. First two weeks of event is map of rain and a strange glow that culminates in a weird explosion with the wreckage of the Delpine suddenly in the Bayou and evidence of something monstrous breaking free. Maybe even a growl and a splash.

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Have bodies of the dead in the lore scattered around.

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Have pact aligned corpses around to give some sense of immersion. Event is investigating the strange storm and ship. Have i game lore that you need to find to progress the story.

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Have all this be optional so people can play normal servers and those for "lore mode" for the event.

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Love they started to integrate the RP elements into the game proper.

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Have legendaries be NPC's that don't really fight but play out events.

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Corpse of The Rat is found in a ritual site, journals found in wreckage of the Delphine.

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Bring this game to God tier

white pasture
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The infection existed before and after this event. It says "Hunters if the era called them Grunts" so different eras called them different things.

Corpse animated and controlled by something else.

lavish mist
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we like fortnite we like fortnite

real dove
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You could say there was kinda a lead up to rotjaw- lots of hype with hornback, skinned quest, reptilian stuff, etc... even the last moon event had gator stuff. Maps had gator skulls, we had rotjaw prints in the mud.... but I agree, it would be cool to see some of the characters actually show up in the swamp, or have other variations of their skins that further the lore. Have grunt versions of hunters wandering around- can make them different enough for actual hunters to still be obvious. We have so many freaking hunters, most feel forgotten about now. I was and am happy to see the return of the reptilian and what looks (hopefully) like a future event with the wolf family, and I do feel like this event makes somewhat more sense- I know what happened, I know who all is involved, and I know how it ended. Hoping Lynch returns and we find out Gar is Enola cause I still think they got merged somehow

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Tho, I get with how grunts are made, why you'd nver see hunter corpses wandering about

white pasture
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Not all Hunters resist the corruption via the same methods. And they do become corrupted. All it takes is for a Hunter to die and it's corpse would be susceptible to becoming undead. We have several Hunters in lore and a few in game actively infected. To say nothing of the T3 Hunters decaying from exposure.

real dove
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Not disagreeing, but the reason we DONT see grunt hunters is that when they die, they get absorbed into the sculptor's "clay", and get molded into a normal grunt.

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or whatever they want to make

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was how they explained why we have identical copies of the grunts/enemies/bosses/etc. sculptor copy pastes

hasty raven
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The Sculptor summoning a million unnamed tailors to craft the exact same clothes for its infected

rotund ferry
real dove
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Yeah. Quite a few of us on here really wish they'd go rainbow six and stop adding new hunters and instead build lore on the ones we have. add more skins- inferno crew should have gotten inferno skins, rat/skinned/etc hunters should get some kind of wounded/undead skin, give us some that are haggard from being in the swamps, lunar crew could have gotten some kinda lunar skin... all to say there are a lot of things skin wise they could go off. Limit the hunters coming in to every once in a while, if at all. Sure, you can argue that some hunters come to the swamp and don't really make a splash lore wise... but also, I'm SO TIRED of scrolling through 150 pages of hunters just to find the few i main.

slate grotto
real dove
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true, but I maintain adding new skins to existing hunters as a way to add lore makes logical sense, my hatred of the current system is a side to it

green pollen
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Quick question but would there still be an okay population of gators in the bayou even with the water devils or are gators just like super rare now

red spear
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The water devils ran the gators out of the Bayou entirely

wraith cove
white pasture
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Blood trails, destructible clothing, scars from previous fights

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Notches in weapons representing kills

ionic citrus
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Expanding lore through variant skins is something I havent considered but it's definitely something I'd want

white pasture
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Expand the lore by having hidden journals and incorporating into maps.

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Show the remains of the fire, ritual sacrifice, Charys "lab" in king snake.

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A letter on a dead courier written by "Kevin" (so stupid).

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I mean you have a shit writer at the helm nothing you can do about that but at least incorporate some of the events.

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Granted they are gonna milk us with endless battle pass events so get a bit cluttered but still.

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They have created a feedback loop of endless nonsense events that we must pay cash to partake in. And they are extremely low quality. Even the guns are mostly reused skins.

untold blaze
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I like how Gars a canon Lance main (:

rotund ferry
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Reptilian and skinned too

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I personally really like skinned's bomblance "Nola's screw" but skinned himself is meh

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I won't say I hate skinned though he's still got redeeming qualities like the animated gator skull on his chest lol

rotund ferry
untold blaze
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I hope to god we do

rotund ferry
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One with a bunch of netting and barnacles on it and stuff

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Maybe a bomb Lance that looks like a giant crab claw or with a scrimshaw picture or a gar fish on it

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I have some pretty good ideas for a sea themed bomb lance

untold blaze
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I’m happy as long as we have another Lance skin tbh

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I wasn’t the hugest fan of Nola’s screw, cause it’s blade reminds me of the knife I use when building models and didn’t feel like a true Lance blade to me at least

rotund ferry
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I like Nola's screw just because of how clean and simple it looks

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like it definitely looks like something you could build if you had the materials and knowhow

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also

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if they ever decide to bring back the Plague doctor hunter they should also include the scrapbeak bomb lance skin

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I think it was called "The Shriek" or something

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or the "Shrike" like the bird

untold blaze
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Shrike

rotund ferry
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Scrapbeak is a bird and he does scream loud so it could be either names 😅

untold blaze
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It was Shrike, I love that Lance skin

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Goes perfectly with Devils Advocate

rotund ferry
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Yeah!

untold blaze
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Kind of like how the Lance Crossroads skin goes quite well with Gar imo

real dove
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i hopew they bring it back

rotund ferry
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I always love to pair charms and weapons with hunters that I think work good with them

real dove
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i horde them

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have several collected shrikes

untold blaze
real dove
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but it would be neat to be able to buy it

rotund ferry
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I think the bonus charm for this event is great

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the little goat horn fragment

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I want to put it on one of Frau Perchta's guns

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since she dresses as a goat deity/demon

untold blaze
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I want to get that charm so bad, but I know I don’t got the time to get my grubby mitts on it

rotund ferry
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It would look good on her Lemat I think

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I run this charm on Lonely Howl's Pax claw because Leonel Frisk is a cold-blooded killer

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I think the "Cardinal Icarus" charm works well with the new Uppermat skin from the event

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I believe this Uppermat is also used by Cardinal Rain so the bundle of Cardinal feathers strung on the gun feels natural for her

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I run blood bullet on Sgt. Bridgewater's Caldwell NA

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Because Bridgewater believes in the fight and he fights to live

untold blaze
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I like that

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Smart placement

granite shard
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oh sick, iron bark appears to be NB

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they're referred to w only "they/them" in the lore in the DLC page

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love that

white pasture
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The Shrike is the best bomblance for sure

red spear
granite shard
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I'm curious to see if they'd get along or not actually

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they have a really interesting relationship potential going for sure

red spear
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I'd be really sad if they're shunned. Or that be the plot arc in some way. They're seen as an outcast and slowly being accepted into the family

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Give me the Frisks, Perchta, Iron Bark a la Partridge family pls

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oh god, now I can't stop thinking about some sitcom where Luna and Dire wolf start a throuple with Reptilian and with all their kids they become the Bayou Bunch. What is wrong with me

granite shard
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lmao

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iconic

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I think hunt probably wouldn't go in the direction of them being brought into a familial relationship, but I could still totally see them being brought into the wolf pack

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(I am not a found family lover but I am forever fond of the lunar pact being a found family)

rotund ferry
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Is there any lore at all to the legendary hunter Wormbite?

noble scarab
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So our new Iron Bark, how do we think they learned how to use guns, talk, and find their way into the AHA?

rotund ferry
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I'm finding it increasingly suspicious that we're getting all this canine related material in hunt suddenly

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first we get a twitch drop charm that appears to be the jaw of a canine

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then the Moorhound legendary hunter makes its debut

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and now we've got this Iron bark guy

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what is crytek cooking? 🤔

slim star
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Hazmat’s Werewolf

rotund ferry
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I just realized the new bonus charm "Ewe's horn" mentions that it was taken from the side of a wolf

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subtle blaze
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We need more melee weapons from stone age and map, so new dlc will be perfect.

white pasture
granite shard
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I doubt it's so they can reuse assets. it's more likely that they're working to a canine boss

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the wolf family was also heavily involved in the grounded pact lore this time around

rotund ferry
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yeah I think they're hinting at a wolf themed event with a canine boss

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they confirmed we'd be getting up to 3 of these wild targets

granite shard
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I wonder when the release timeframe would be for it

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probably next year

rotund ferry
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Yeah I'd assume if everything goes right the estimated release for the next event and wild target is next year

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Hopefully we get an event sooner than that but it probably won't be to debut another wild target

green pollen
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at least with rotjaw it stays to the water, imagine being chased by a canine boss that can just kinda go anywhere

granite shard
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I doubt land based wild targets would chase outside of the boss lair

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they'd prob have a max chasing range, like how you can't really lure a meathead out of the compound it spawns in

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(source: tried moving meatheads into other compounds during the "kill meatheads in XYZ compounds" quest in the scaled ward questlines and it did not work lmao)

noble scarab
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I swear traitors moon was meant to be werewolf related. The early teasers and wolf related dlc, plus the turncoat

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It feels like crytek wasn’t able to finish their idea or changed their minds last minute, which resulted in the disjointed and non cohesive event we got

mellow mantle
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So, there is new wolf themed hero

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Who is apparently a teen

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With a grey beard

rotund ferry
white pasture
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Was supposed to be the wolf clan folks being front and center...then didn't.

rotund ferry
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at least they still use scrapped ideas

white pasture
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Yeah, they sold the core content of the event instead of incorporating it into it...

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And didn't adjust the narrative all that much after removing it so it didn't make much sense.

rotund ferry
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The only things that weren't incorporated into the event was the two grounded hunters "Cardinal rain" and "Fang shearer" and the wax dynamite skin

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The numerous new skins that can be bought with blood bonds also weren't directly included in the event progression either

white pasture
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wrong event

rotund ferry
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ah

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makes sense I thought you were talking about Tides

white pasture
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Naw the other one who clearly showed the 3 wolf Hunters being critical. It was obvious they were intended to be rewards

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As they fine tuned the gouging of events and BB's

granite shard
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I doubt that they made an entire event trilogy and storyline in a rushed way of scrapping another storyline

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Production of game stuff takes way too long for that

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It was probably just an unfortunate coincidence that they probably should have predicted but hadn’t

hollow charm
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PRAISE BE CRYTEK

white pasture
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Yeah man, bet it took them least 7 months to write 1000 words of hurf blurf

granite shard
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I get you didn't like them but I do not think they're poorly written or incoherent

white pasture
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Why would you "get that" I asserted its poorly written incoherent crap. Not that I didnt like it

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Because objectively it is poorly written crap

granite shard
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lmao it's not objectively, it's subjectively

white pasture
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No, as a function of basic structure of writing its objectively poorly written. This isn't an opinion of the content of the fiction, its a critique of the basic mechanics. It's not an opinion.

It's inane trash with characterizations on par with a poorly written comic book. THAT is an opinion.

white pasture
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As a matter of fact a Hunt comic book now exists for comparison haha

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To say nothing some of the best written characters I know of are in comics.

granite shard
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It is literally an opinion, but I’m not going to argue further on this point

white pasture
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Is it an opinion a trilogy of events and narrative has no conclusion?

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Characters come from nowhere, set up to have later importance and then play no part in the story?

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That the established precedence for the setting are no longer relevant and directly contradicted?

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It's an opinion on how you feel about these things but they do objectively exist.

granite shard
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Man you are unpleasant to have a discussion with. No matter what I say is going to change your mind, and nothing I say will change yours.

I enjoyed the moon trilogy, I liked the story it told and the characters is brought in, and the direction it took the lore

earnest jungle
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There’s a reason I ignore them, the fact that they’re using the term objective to describe a subjective evaluation is just more evidence I’m justified to do so.

zealous palm
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So, maybe I'm looking too much into it

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But

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The Bone Doctor

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Bonne in French means "Good"

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So... "The Good Doctor?"

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... that sounded more clever in my head

earnest jungle
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Th Bonne Doctor was a real dude

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I assume it’s some kind of reference to the historical figure of Doctor John.

white pasture
mellow mantle
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Why do they hate The Rat?

mellow mantle
misty sigil
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If you are looking for a very traditional three-act story with a conclusion then yes, these stories might be very disappointing. I kinda get your need for cohesive canon but this is Hunt we are talking about.

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It's about some mysterious cowboy shenanigans in the bayou told from multiple, highly unreliable narrators and sources. Stories may come to nothing, might even be complete fabrications and the narrator's goals are usually left nebulous.

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I don't have much of a problem with it most of the time. Though i wished they would lean more into it so people can stop to force a timeline onto this incoherent narrative. I just try to get some cool vibes out of these stories cause that's all they seem to be here for.

earnest jungle
# white pasture One can like trash writing thats fine. But it is in fact trash for a legion of r...

“Objectively good/bad writing” is a contradiction in terms. If a quality is objective it means it is something that exists independently of the subject that observes it. Objective qualities are quantitative qualities, and you will note that “Good/bad writing” is not a quantitative because it is an evaluation and thus is qualitative. And qualitative traits are inherently subjective because they cannot exist independently of the subject who observed the object.

You’re enjoyment or lack of enjoyment of a work of art does not exist independently of yourself. To pretend it does is to deny your subjectivity and engage in bad faith.

What’s more it undermines the credibility of your criticism, the mark of a good critic is the confidence to own their subjectivity. Only a critic who lacks confidence in their own criticism denies the inherent subjectivity to saying “I don’t like this thing.”

white pasture
# earnest jungle “Objectively good/bad writing” is a contradiction in terms. If a quality is obje...

Tell me someone has never taken a writing or critical thinking class in their life. "The mark of a good critic is the confidence to their own subjectivity", The mark of a good critic is objective analysis supporting their evaluation of the material, the complete and total opposite. You simply dont understand that one can critically evaluate something independent of their opinion of content...

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Critical and objective feedback is how writers evolve in skill and technique ffs.

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Critical evaluation of writing is taught from elementary school onward FFS.

silent pond
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Mind you, I'm a semi-professional writer, and you're not necessarily wrong, but you're just really fucking rude about it.

rotund ferry
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How does one get dark sigbt

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Sight

rotund ferry
noble scarab
white pasture
white pasture
white pasture
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Many have access to said abilities without it.

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AHA been around centuries, predating Lynch.

noble scarab
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my brother in christ we've only seen Lynch's serum, whatever mixture of herbs and blood the old serum was, and innate resistance that will eventually fail

white pasture
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Lynch's corrupts the soul and rots the bodies of Hunters. It was so Hardin could produce Hunters as fodder.

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It's why T3 are rotting

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She even mentioned it while performing the ritual (trading one form of corruption for another than delayed the effects).

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And the history of the inocculum is referenced in the lore, its evolution and refinement.

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But the REAL Hubtet (Legendaries and T3) are inherently superior. Hardin was trained by Lynch and used her syrum was used to mass produce his fodder.

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But just interaction with portals and banishment is a corruptible and addictive.

icy brook
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Bear in mind some hunters don’t need the inocculum to survive in the dead zone or at least aren’t confirmed to have received it, ie Chitimacha/Teche hunters and Moses

high stone
white pasture
white pasture
high stone
ripe isle
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get rid of rain in this game, its so loud. it sounds like a man is pissing directly into my ear, i cant turn it down however as it will turn down gunshots, get rid of it, now. thank you.

high stone
ripe isle
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no i put in all channels to get my point across

high stone
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Mod?

hasty raven
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You're a loser

high stone
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(The rain is great by the way, the hard rain as an occasional challenge is the point)

ripe isle
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nuh uh

gritty wyvern
gritty wyvern
gritty wyvern
ripe isle
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nuh uh

hasty raven
# ripe isle nuh uh

Quit whining about the most interesting and dynamic gameplay element added in years. God forbid there's any variety or nuance from game to game

high stone
# gritty wyvern I agree

Seems like the Competitive Gamer pilled guys just wish everyone had equal gear, traits, etc. so you could have dead-evenly matched street shootout/duals….pretty much everything in Hunt has an advantage/disadvantage that you’re supposed to weigh to help you win

hasty raven
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play counterstrike or something

ripe isle
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like instead of adding noisy ass rain, add an exo suit or slide cancelling

gritty wyvern
hasty raven
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aaaand the troll is obvious

gritty wyvern
ripe isle
rotund ferry
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Guys does the game have crossplay between consoles?

gritty wyvern
gritty wyvern
high stone
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Any mods??

rotund ferry
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Wha

ripe isle
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okay okay genuine question

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how do i actually turn it off

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like jokes aside

gritty wyvern
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Just click on the normal contracts

rotund ferry
gritty wyvern
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Yea basically

rotund ferry
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Tf

gritty wyvern
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Idk it’s dumb

rotund ferry
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And i assume that u cant play with pc players

gritty wyvern
ripe isle
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thank u for the info

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have a wonderful day

rotund ferry
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Thats gay

gritty wyvern
gritty wyvern
rotund ferry
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Im on xbox and my boyfriends are on ps google said that crossplay exists but u cant play with eachother so i was confused

lavish mist
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boyfriends

white pasture
real dove
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I like the rain, i do wish they'd cut the odds of getting it to be the same as any other map now that we're several weeks in. I hope they make a dynamic fog map that's similar in concept. maybe we'll get one with the next roaming boss. dynamic fog + WW roaming boss lol. There's so much stuff pointing to that being the next roamer, super hyped

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They had a slip about rotjaw/gator boss right? I thought we knew she was coming before she was actually announced

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besides the clues about gators

granite shard
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I don't think they had said anything but there had been people getting into file stuff I think

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the focus on the reptilian I think was one of the only official hints towards the first wild target being a gator

real dove
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chuh. just was curious. There were def a ton of reptilian stuff that kinda gave it away, i just recall that being a confirmation, that it was already common knowledge that we were getting a gator before then

granite shard
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yeah I think the surprise was a little bit spoiled there 😂

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prayer circle for werewolf wild target tho

real dove
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Probably would be too hard to pull off... but be cool if we got an inferno map where the fire slowly spreads and condenses the players to the boss locations

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agreed

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I've watched that fan made trailer for a WW a few times

granite shard
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I've been thinking abt how I'd want a werewolf target to look

upbeat kiln
granite shard
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and I think it being like a half transformed person, not a wolf but no longer really looking human, would be super cool

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like their jaw is elongated, but not quite a muzzle, their nose is still fully human

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just looking painful

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like a clear attempt at turning a person to a wolf, but it not working

white pasture
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The Bear from Annialation

real dove
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Be neat for sure. Like it's the result of chary/lynch trying to create another monster? The version i made for my DND game is akin to that, with a heavy metal collar and cuffs/chains, but rotted like the hellhounds, with glowing eyes. The howl is more akin to a scream than a true howl.

white pasture
granite shard
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the body horror of the spider is just so peak and I'd just overall love to see hunt doing more like it

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I do rly like the variety of design tho, like from the spider's horror to rotjaw being a big baby

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it's nice that the devs don't seem like they feel locked towards making the bosses just be one specific sort of thing

white pasture
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Or have the Sculptor randomly take direct control of one AI and all of a sudden it can outrun a Hunter, vault, does meat head damage and let's an ear piercing screech the entire time.

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Happens instantly no warning and escape is the primary defense.

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Or how about we go beyond bosses and make them events.

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Sky glows green wind so strong it forces one to walk if caught outdoors.

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All AI does insane running and dashing everywhere. After that phase damage from rain and random lightning kills anyone caught outside.

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On rare occasions during these events a special mob can spawn randomly inside an underground structure.

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Shadow and claws is all you see as is can teleport shadow to shadow

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Illumination (flashlights), flash bombs, flares

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Only effective means to survive it. Nobody knows what it is, sometimes it leaves corpses behind with journals detailing hundreds of years of torture.

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What it I'd and is doing is slowly revealed as Hunters find lore in game.

slim star
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The body horror of the spider is honestly reflected in most of the other monsters in the game, seriously the lore is way, way, WAY grim when read into.

From gameplay it’s just weird zombies but then you open up that cursed_knowledge book and Jesus, what kinda person decides on the Hive’s Backstory and is like “yup, that happens to little girls too.”

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A game or cutscene depicting half of what the lore says would easily be one of the most gruesome and horrifying examples on the current market imo

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(This isn’t criticism I adore how terrifying it is!)

real dove
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Yeah. I guess we have the widow as an example of what chary can do... so I kinda hope Lynch makes the WW with the help of the Wolf clan

white pasture
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Lynch flayed and tortured random anyone to make the vaccine...

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flayed all flesh off their body barring their face and tortured them for days...

real dove
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I still think she fused Enola and Gar, so what if she fuses a hellhound and a human together, into this massive undead agonized monster? My version utilizes flames (it is a HELL hound) but I'd be cool with it just being damage like scrapbeak.

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dunno how they'd slow the fight down in an open area the way rotjaw does by diving

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I'm sure we will get a burrowing monster evertually, would be a logical ground version of rotjaw's diving into th water

white pasture
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Does it matter, there is no internally consistent lore or rules.

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anyone can do anything. Likely be a meathead but REALLY big and like purple

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drops fat loots

real dove
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flying would do the same thing, could still be damageable, but hard to hit. some kind of vulture or bat... I don't really want another nighttime only boss tho. Or owl/hawk. Owl boss would be neat, akin to the whispersmith trait.

white pasture
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that would require effort and nonexistent mechanics

real dove
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? and rotjaw had existing mechanics? each new boss has to get it's own mechanics written regardless

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Big ass insect would also make sense

white pasture
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Rotjaw its the most simplistic script one could imagine.

upbeat kiln
real dove
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oh, didn't know they had monkey enemies. that feels... weird for hunt tho ngl

upbeat kiln
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Though the flying one could open of a world of unspeakable abomination as well. That morbid ingenuity could really get going on that front 😄

upbeat kiln
real dove
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truth! They'd have to have some kind of mechanic to make sure that the fight is kinda drawn out... I am not the biggest fan of waiting on rotjaw to poke her snoot up or baiting her out, but it didnt take very long for my buddy and I to figure out how to kill her quick (minus the sleeping large dynamite trick). Which is why I figure we'll get something similar that digs/flies. Or is just fast as fuck boy.

upbeat kiln
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ah yes.. the horrors of Keemstar

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what a monster lol

real dove
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be interesting fo sho

upbeat kiln
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digging is a pretty cool idea too

real dove
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couple keemstar boss with the fire map or a heavy fog, help break line of sight...

real dove
# upbeat kiln digging is a pretty cool idea too

Makes sense to me, be a logical way to slow down a fight. you follow little dug out spots to find the boss... find them in corn fields and fields. Or a scarecrow boss found in fields. so many possibilities

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could see the return of the creatures they drew for the original water devils, but as diggers. might be a bit sandworm tho

red spear
granite shard
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a monster made of mud could be neat too

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instead of digging it literally forms itself out of the ground

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could be interesting too if it would form spots in the area that slow you down, kinda how rotjaw shoots out her puddles

red spear
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Someone had mentioned long ago the idea of a ghoul boss. Something more demon-like that only shows up near church compounds.

red spear
real dove
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fair. We do have a lot of poison weak monsters. id think a ground based monster would not be weak to poison. I was thinking it would be insectile. Giant worm/centipede. or water devil ish, where it has an AOE attack where parts of it come out of the ground.

red spear
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An insect kind of boss could have a nice variety of both ground and flying attacks too

real dove
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True, tho I kinda hope if that gets made, it's just one or the other

red spear
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Burrows and flies

real dove
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make them 2 dif bosses

granite shard
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implementing everyone's favorite mechanic from the spider, hide and seek

real dove
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ugh.

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lol

granite shard
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I think that's my main concern abt a boss that burrows or flies

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the most frustrating part of fights w the assassin and the spider are when they're just running away from you in the compound

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a flying boss would be really neat but they'd need to do something to balance that sort of frustrating mechanic

real dove
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true. I was thinking something kinda like rotjaw- it has a little animation of it moving around in the field under ground- it takes reduced damage while below ground. It would be attracted to players moving.

granite shard
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being able to ground and stun it I think could help

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like that boss in tears of the kingdom

red spear
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I prefer hide and seek with spider over assassin tho. You have a better chance of fighting in the building with spider. Assassin is just annoying af

granite shard
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oh I vastly prefer the assassin since I can stunlock him 😂

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my friends and I slam him with hammers like we're those guys making mochi

real dove
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I dislike them both lol. I have no desire to deal with another boss like them. Flying boss to me would have a circling pattern before diving down- you could have it impact the ground and stay there for a second (which is why I kinda hope it would be owl based) before flying back up.

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with the chance of dodging the attack and stunning the boss. if you get hit, it would knock you prone like princess does

red spear
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Or you just unload a lot of poison cross bolts and let assassin take care of itself

white pasture
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Yeah, how about we fight the Moon! Big chunks will fall off and destroy certain compounds and from the fiery depths large portals will offer entry to select teams of Hunters. You can bring 5 Hunters (for each player entering) each, the gear they can carry and a finite amount of ammunition and tools into the Land of the Dead. Basically a rogue lite style mode of play, while victory and extraction is possible its very unlikely but you are awarded with unique skins based upon the weapons you scavenged and the occult energies the weapons warping equipment you brought in.

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This will be a quarterly event/.tournament style. The team that collects a certain total of whatever first wins and returns to the Bayou. Maybe even have the hunter models have unique scars/skins who went.

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top 1% of each tier win anything.

vernal forge
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Hi, how do players resurrect? I kill them and they get back up afterwards, is there a special trait for that?

real dove
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Necromancer. Solos can self revive

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FYI, #game-questions is the place to ask stuff like this 🙂 Unless you want to lore behind necromancer!

vernal forge
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Ok thank you Alphacalix!

real dove
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Npnp 🙂 Good Huntings!

slim star
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Is there lore behind dark sight, and if so- are there documented cases of any dark sight being utilized outside of the bayou or- exactly what the orange means? For example I understand it’s for other hunters when in the bayou but lore wise is it a new skill the hunters possess or what?

upbeat kiln
upbeat kiln
slim star
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Interesting, I ask because sometimes my friends and I leave with darksight and we always wonder… what happens to that last two seconds or so that we bring with us?

I mean anything that comes out of the bayou tends to lead to further spread of the infection so, could that happen with darksight or such. Thanks!

noble scarab
slim star
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Fair enough, must just come with having the bounty at that moment

real dove
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Yeah, I always believed that you get darksight from the innoc, and that while we DO have Hunters with natural immunity, once they join the AHA aka join the roster they get the innoc regardless, and thus gain all the powers that come with, including DS. The orange from bounties is enhanced DS gained from the power of the bounty, but too many uses wears out the power... but you can regain limited amounts of that power from the downed souls of other Hunters. The event trait that effects it is similar, but less powerful (reduced range/can't pinpoint), and is given for offering tokens to the correct pledge... may be incorrect but that was my understanding of how it works

silver tapir
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which legendary hunters are canocially dead? i know Killian is dead, and i think Rat, and i feel like i remember hearing something about Black Coat also being dead, but who else?

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this isn't counting hunters who died and came back(Revenant, Gar, Kevin,)

granite shard
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black coat's dead as of "bad as they seem" it's implied billy story is dead in one of the scottfield masteries (I think precision) but it's not 100% confirmed that it's him, but based on context clues it's fairly safe to assume him

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killian could maybe survive but I think he's dead, rat's for sure dead

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I don't think anyone else has died yet

silver tapir
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oh, thanks

rotund ferry
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Some hunters have died but come back too

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Bad hand is one example of this

opaque elk
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who else really tho

rotund ferry
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Mary Ochenkov and Bennett Hudson

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Mary Ochenkov died as a result of Chary's experiments. She is now a supernatural weapon in the form of a juiced-up grunt.

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And as for Bennett Hudson he is experiencing or rather suffering from necrosis caused by the infection. Like he's half-dead.

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I almost forgot that Kevin Linus has also died and been resurrected.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72gJ9Cu3X4A&list=PLsKEs3FIMwi2Mm5EhqSvOLwmgU03TyP4V&index=16

YouTube
Hunt: Showdown
Frau Perchta | Devil's Moon | Hunt: Showdown

The myths of midwinter recall a time of reckoning: gifts for the good, retribution for the bad. ⚖

The reckoners, few and far between, have been softened by time. ⏳

But not Perchta, from ancient alpine valleys, where punishments are dealt with a blade at dusk, and trees gifted with rotten garlands at dawn. 👹


Get...
▶ Play video
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if this trailer is anything to go off of and if traits are also lore friendly then Frau Perchta has also died and come back.

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I'm leaning more toward the fact that traits are part of the lore since this latest event's story heavily focused on the existence of them.

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so that'd be 5 hunters total that have died and come back in some way shape or form

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not necessarily "alive" but among the living

high stone
hasty raven
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How did I never see that trailer

granite shard
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It’s such a sick trailer

river socket
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What kind of bugs is the assassin made of? They look like roaches but I can’t find anything

slim star
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I saw some form of centipede and worm, but I believe it’s a mix up of various bugs known and unknown when viewing gameplay in the lair and via in game books

white pasture
white pasture
# slim star Interesting, I ask because sometimes my friends and I leave with darksight and w...

Its extremely powerful and valuable and is what we get paid for. Who buys it and for what purposes is unknown but it's supernatural power of some type. Many Hunters are trained to use various forms of supernatural means to resist the influence of the Sculptor and the inoculation does not make one immune. Many Hunters if not all actively dying. The inoculation made by Lynch isn't immunity and is inherently corrupting itself. Using the clues and other dark sight related occult feats is magic. Necreo,serpent a abilities that one is chanting and making hang gestures is magic. Tainting ones self with the demon blood in the inoculations tries to use another supernatural power to protect from the influence of another but it's still corrupting.

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It's how often ones goes into the Bayou, their natural abilities and chance that determines how long they live before turning.

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Hunters turning into Grunts at a slower pace is in the lore. Timothy Stone series details an example.

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Salter is another. The inoculation as used by Lynches time appears to be to pump out Hunters who won't instantly die in the Bayou and are used as fodder.

slim star
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Charlie salter’s story was rough

white pasture
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The whole bloodline mechanic and lore and the inclusion of the Tarot got sidelined. Bloodline and I know there are a few references to it in the lore seem to imply the inoculation one takes is derived or includes the blood of another Hunter.

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That's what a bloodline is/was. But it also seems the OG trained Hunters are mostly gone and the current bloodlines are corrupt

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Many of the shots you take in game make reference to being derived from shit in the Bayou.

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Tarot is mentioned repeatedly in the early lore. And the mission summary "cards" certainly have that style.

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Think I read they were supposed to modify something in the match. Likely similar to challenges or adjust some aspect of the round. Maybe even like pacts. Id love to see the more powerful traits have negatives.

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Necro makes it so you only receive 75% healing from kits etc.

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Fanning creates increased ADS sway. And others to have synergy. Greyhound,Lightfoot and gator legs allow one to run atop deep water for 10m but you can't stop

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Bullet grabber and one of the weapon specs decreases reload time.

amber harbor
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Maybe dark sight is something like screaming in the underworld to feel what resonates back

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And bounties are like megaphones

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And in that case, the orange color could be the specific demon blood used in the inoculum

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I'm thinking glass vibrating in response to an opera singer

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In that case, I can see bounties being sought after as a way to amplify rituals

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Since they get left behind after banishment, they could be a kind of tether between worlds also

amber harbor
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So hunters see other hunters, but maybe they could be dialed in to find other stuff

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It could also mean that there could be more 'perceptive' hunters, who would be able to more easily sense hunters without the need for the amplifier (bounties), thus Instinct pact trait

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Maybe they use another inoculum?

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That last one is a genuine question, how do pacts differ, what even are they? Is it by which leader/ideas you follow, training, inoculum, or something else?

noble scarab
white pasture
# amber harbor Maybe they use another inoculum?

I don't think it's Hunters specifically we can see with darksight it's a sensitivity to energies in general. Hunters are actively supernatural beings. Just how everything with darksight can detect the energies involved in banishing, locating bosses and where the token is.

It's a 6th sense that can be refined, but is boosted by tokens and Hunters glow like torches. But you can refine it to detect poison, to draw in energy to regen, to detect traps, traits.

Think of it as Astral perception and being able to perceive these forces is the first step in manipulating them.

real dove
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Lynch's innoc used demon blood, and unless they yoinked the lore on it, that's what made it more potent, and IMO, why hunters holding a bounty are able to "see"- darksight is what you see when you close your eyes- other hunters- they have demon bits floating around in them too, but aren't demons or have become something else entirely, which is why they are orange and not blue like bounties/clues/rifts... Your own hands glow orange too. The innoc clearly opens you up to abilities beyond what mankind is normally able to access, I'd be interested in knowing lore wise if the previous version that was not as potent / naturally resistant hunters (Redneck) had access to darksight... tho I believe they all get innocced with the newer formula as soon as they join the AHA, which is why everyone has the same base powers. To me, the traits are kinda a mashup of "skill" (load gun faster, fan, staying in scope, switch between weapons silently, silent killer, etc..." and mutators on the powers given by the innoc- (Darksight shows traps, bleed out slower, resistance to fire, etc...)

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sorry for book

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Be cool if there was a differentiator between the skill traits and the occult ones- tho from a logical make the token recognizable/easy to spot in game i get why they are treated the same

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As for the event traits... I assume the shrines and the pacts under them take advantage of some kind of... supernatural power/gods/beings/etc to influence the skills learned by trading in event tokens. Not sure I really get what the pacts are trading to, or what is given the boons. Also odd all altars are found together at the wagons, but again, could just be ease of game mechanic over having specific areas for specific pacts.

slim star
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Im pretty sure all aha sanctioned hunters get innocc’d with the newer formula since after the (let’s just call it the Meathead Situation 👁👁) it was determined that a newer standardized formula would be utilized on hunters from that point forward to prevent, unfortunate meathead spawns, as one can read in the pages of the meathead section.

I understood that book section as now hunters that are aha sanction’d take a standard formula of serum. Whether this is the same as Lynch’s or modified I can’t tell the timeline on what formula existed when or what the purported differences are other than specifically neutering/birth control in the case of “new formula” vs “old formula”.

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It could be that the old formula was Lynch’s original cocktail but again, hard to say.

white pasture
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Bloodlines and the inoculation have history behind them as a core AHA practice. Lynch has only been active with the AHA as far as we know a handful of years.

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Seems like she was the AHA occult expert and was constantly trying experimenting on ways to combat the Sculptor.

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So even if she is simply using the same formula she couldn't be the original creator. I think she is using her influence to use a serum that corrupts because it's easier and makes even a peon someone who can go fight.

rotund ferry
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Does each state in the US have a branch of the AHA and are all of them just as morally corrupt and empty as the one in Louisiana?

white pasture
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AHA, Louisiana Chapter im not sure how old they are, but given its in Louisiana and it involves money,mercenaries and supernatural power being traded id imagine its more common than not Why is it allowed to occur?

white pasture
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The AHA is essentially faceless and seem more interested in using this event. It's mentioned this isn't the first paying bounty Hunt in the USA. Doesn't appear to be all that rare. I think this event is bring exacerbated by incompetence/sabotage, the corruption from The Sculptor and Lynch and the various insane leaders of the AHA. Seems like there is a finite limit to how long one can resist it. The properly trained and initiated Hunters while still tainted can control it. There I'd a lot more supernatural shit going on. Show weakness, or don't have some form of supernatural protection or innate resistance and you will die of the plague. Unlucky few can resist turning while still living but it's all but inevitable.

A cool event would be am AHA elite team come in and clean house. Flesh out it's structure a bit.

regal trout
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The AHA iirc kinda informally disbanded after Chary died

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At least the branch in Louisiana

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It's just various factions vying for power now

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So, I know the sculptor replicates most of the mobs, are even the grunts replicated? As in, clones of a few different people

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Iirc I know that basically only one Meathead ever existed naturally, and every other meathead is just a clone

hasty raven
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I don't think grunts are clones because I think grunts are what are used as a base to replicate the special monsters

green pollen
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I feel like most of the monsters probably would be cloned besides from the hellhounds and the grunts

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and maybe the hives

white pasture
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They are clones It's stated that's why they are identical

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Everything is cloned and warped from an original

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Hives for sure all clones...

silent pond
white pasture
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As identified by the daughter.

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Some awful writer tried to imply Scrappy collects all the non-organics that are used on cloning

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So dumb

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The Sculptor may not be able to create but it certainly plays a direct role in the origins of many things.

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Or it's just the area itself is so saturated in occult energy those events are just opportunities it uses.

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AHA after Chary was under new leadership again in direct contradiction to the lore.

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Apparently anyone can show up and run the infrastructure of a highly secretive organization who has yet to directly flex.

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New lore seems to pretend it still functions when the entire time period of the game is "nobody is in charge but we still get paid".

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Even occultism trying to end the world or blatantly evil villains.

noble scarab
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Finch was always the one paying the bounties out, after Huff died and Chary fucked off he just kept doing that and was the de facto leader of the AHA for a bit

white pasture
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Grunts are more of a by product of the plague leaving so many dark corrupted corpses around

noble scarab
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But all that happened in the span of a few months, and the timeline is all fucked up so we don’t know for sure

white pasture
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On whose behalf? Finch came to Lousianna on the random. Who collects the occult energy and for what?

noble scarab
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Finch was invited down by Huff, he took a position with Huff’s hospital and began to run an outpost

white pasture
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On whose behalf did he EVER run these services he was politically connected and had an ole boys network but nearly all are ignorant going in.

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Huff is the one who came on the random on the ship?

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To treat illness as a failed doctor yeah?

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Like he isnt AHA management deployed to address the problem

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And the knowledge that is "openly" known is extremeley rudimentary and often being discovered as the events unfold.

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Where are the lore experts from previous events? No mention is ever made and the historians going back also imply barely any records remained after nor did they understand what was occuring,

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And Veteren Hunters who have done this before exist. Not Hardin, Harold Black, and the rest of the AHA aligned associates. But people who have done and documented this shit way before yet much vital information is intentionally being held back.

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AHA is farming the area of resource and learning how to utilize the methods they are witnessing. Which is opening the front to being corrupted by the Sculptor.

rotund ferry
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Ok what if

crystal ether
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Boobs

rotund ferry
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Hunt showdown takes place in USA

crystal ether
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It already does

rotund ferry
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And

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Hear me out

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It’s the 20th century

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Also

crystal ether
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Too many automatic weapons

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Too many vehicles

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Too many rpgs

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Go play cod zombies

rotund ferry
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What

crystal ether
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20th century

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Is 1900s right

rotund ferry
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Yes

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Huntington showington takes place in like 1901

crystal ether
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1898

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Or 1899

rotund ferry
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Or

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1527

crystal ether
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Why

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Nothin but flint locks

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Cool idea

rotund ferry
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They should make a cod zombies

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But muskets

crystal ether
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Id pay 50$ for that

rotund ferry
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Same

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There should be a team deatch match in hunt

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Like

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4v4 on one compound

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Or 6v6

crystal ether
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But with only melee weapons

rotund ferry
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Real

crystal ether
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And sparks pistol

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But no ammo box

rotund ferry
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No

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One single romerro shot

crystal ether
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Nooo

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They'd get one tao

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Tap

rotund ferry
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Hmmmm

crystal ether
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Mm

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Hmmm

rotund ferry
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1 quad derringer

crystal ether
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Ok ok

rotund ferry
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With no spare ammo

crystal ether
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Yes

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I agree

rotund ferry
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Perfect

crystal ether
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Make it like

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Weepiv

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Weeping

rotund ferry
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What

crystal ether
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Stone mill

rotund ferry
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Yes

crystal ether
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One of my favorite compound legit

rotund ferry
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No prison compounds

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And maybe the western town one

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I forgot the name

crystal ether
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Lower desalle

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?

unique estuary
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Lower desalle
@crystal ether too many buildings

rotund ferry
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Yes

rotund ferry
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It is basically a town

mellow mantle
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What's this hat called?

e7038e3217e9647849243476393b9af10ae9ff44fa7cf9e8.png
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Is it capotain?

white pasture
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Fedora, kinda

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For some reason I think of Australia haha

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Akubra

tired spear
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hunt showdown is actually set in 1895-96

mellow mantle
white pasture
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It is the maker but its also synonymous with that style Outback hat.

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Crocodile dundee be rocking one

hardy cargo
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So I had never seen the Contract of Retention of Services thing you can sometimes get in the Black Market and I'm struggling with the stuff at the bottom. The cursive I can't zoom in on as it pixelates but I can make out most of it but as for signatures I'm really lost. When I searched the discord for this there was only 1 result so I'm here now seeing if anyone can help me figure it out. I really doubt it's specific to who you get it from but this is from The Night Acolyte for Marshal Brewer.

I'll type what I can make out and anything I don't really know I'll italicize.

"The client is not liable for risks undertaken by the supplier, while risks are still formally acknowledged. This contract is not limited to a set timeframe, while death naturally offers the option to negotiate for release."

I'm least confident in acknowledged as it could be encouraged? That's kind of odd though? I don't know. I still have no idea what the signatures are though even with the faded stamps or two blades under the client signature I have no idea. I might just be sleepy and stupid though.

Contract_of_Retention_of_Services.PNG
white pasture
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its dumb....

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yeah

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entire black market shit is dumb

hardy cargo
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I guess so but I barely go over there anyway, this was just something totally new to me so I wanted to see if anyone knew anything. Guess the signatures are just scribbles and not something interesting?

zinc depot
real dove
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The Witness is O Chary---

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Aka our lovely friend My Chary

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Will have to look the other 2 up in game, hard to translate them with the screen shot. Reads to me that the supplier is the hunter in question, so IDK if that signature means anything, would have to examine next to a different contract. Unsure who the client is... J something, I'd guess Huff but the second scribble doesnt really line up with that

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It's def encouraged and not acknowledged as well, missing the K. hope that helps some. I think I have a screen shot of one of these as well to refer to for my DnD game

hardy cargo
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Thank you! I ended up falling asleep. That’s actually why I screenshot it too! I was surprised and then thought I could totally use it for my game lol

real dove
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No worries! I enjoy this stuff, and while most my crew don't catch all the little nods to the game I have in there, I enjoy them 🙂

vernal stag
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Big lore dumps with the patch today. I'm working on the drilling pages now. It's a sequel to the meathead lore!

granite shard
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Oh????

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Hell yeah, I can’t wait to see

white pasture
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Yes, he goes to college then drops out drawn inevitably back to his humble roots.

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A gripping epic

real dove
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oh yeah I forgot we get those with the event ending!

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more lore ❣️

granite shard
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I wonder if the new army swift will continue on the stuff from the prison guard in the new army’s entry or if it’s gonna be something else

real dove
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I just blocked him, got tired of the negging

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I'm hoping. Haven't ran with the new guns at all (charging folks in the rain with the bomblance was too much fun) so boutta run the swift and drilling all the time (RIP my HDs lol)

granite shard
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I usually run the regular new army over the swift since I'm a terminal reloader but I'm abt to start being a swift girlie

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get me a ticket for the eras tour, I'm a swiftie now

real dove
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good luck lol

white pasture
white pasture
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The new lore is not written by the original team. Hence the stark drop of quality. Be excited about whatever you want but impose your lack of standards or ignorance of the this drop of quality onto me.

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Seriously. What kind of person "fake blocks" people hahaha

white pasture
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As an aside there is a Hunt comic out now

amber harbor
white pasture
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Maybe I'm wrong. I swore I saw an official announcement but all I can find are very well done fan stuff

amber harbor
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There was a graphic novel type comic that was anounced, realistic, black & white. Haven't heard anything about it. By SocialPiker iirc. Was looking forward to it

vernal stag
real dove
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Would love to read them ASAP lol but I get it if it's easier to get em all and load them up together

granite shard
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man, candice has gotten a lot of book of weapon entries

real dove
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I wonder if she's gonna star in an event... If we see the return of the "law" pact if you would

vernal stag
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Here's the new army

newarmyswift1.jpg
white pasture
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Man...the...writting...

vernal stag
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For all the new ammo entries, they didn't italicize them like all the others. Literally unreadable.

opaque elk
white pasture
noble scarab
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I kinda like the idea of the Hunt just making everyone more bloodthirsty or corrupt as it goes on, that part kinda checks out. However didn’t Hacksaw basically peace out once they arrived in the bayou? One of the last entries that talked about him, maybe the slate, said he was missing or something

earnest jungle
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This appears to be a prequel

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Scratch that

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This is set in 1895 not 94

rotund ferry
white pasture
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Refers to her superior and mentor as Jack. Attempts at characterization with a groan inducing passage. And concludes with, just kidding I wanna murder people lawl.

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Let's compare that entry to an older journal formated source.

granite shard
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I know Jack fucked off and left Candice with Hardin

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Six months is a decently long amount of time, so they could get back together in it

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I’m not a huge fan of the two of them (mainly bc they’re pinkertons 🤢) but I’m interested to see where this goes

white pasture
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Don't care about either card board character with a dangling plot that goes nowhere.

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For one they are from NYC there is a similar event occuring in NYC at the same time. Active Hunters fighting it. They are just a couple more generic archetypes, representing factions and plot elements that aren't fleshed out to even possibly BE compelling.

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Wtf would Pinkertons be needed to join the AHA? Blood worshipping cultists have no problems getting in FFS. And if undercover why are they dressed like secret agents?

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Does the chick care so deeply for her mentor she has chosen to stay in lateral hell to find him? Or just go murder more people?

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That entire entry says absolutely nothing beyond the struggles of female thug/assassin during less enlightened times. And she is a cardboard cut out of a person.

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Guess thats what happens when you pump out themed DLC with zero attempt to make any of make sense let alone be interesting.

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Oh wolf clan is here, play no part in a event obviously supposed to be centered on then. Newp. Just a few more DLC chars who play no role.

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Ohhhhh xsnake guy event. An assassin Chary hired to kill Kevin. Except Chary literally ripped Kevin apart for hours/days and he didn't die. Also killed him all sorts of other ways. As someone very familiar with the powers at play sure doesn't make any sense.

real dove
granite shard
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I’m fine w them not being tied to the event since I think the next time we’ll get continuation of the events from it/characters will be w the next entry in the tide trilogy

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I’d like to see the prodigal daughter finally get a book of weapons entry

real dove
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Oh that would be neat! She's got a bullet for Finch...

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could see chary trying to get up with her to kill him

granite shard
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Oh does she really?

real dove
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And true, they prolly won't tie lore into the events, now that I think about it

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Yeah, on her gun, you can see "Elwood" on one of the casings... could be another elwood but what are the odds

granite shard
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Oooh yeah

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That makes sense

real dove
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sorry, tie game lore to the events, entries/etc

granite shard
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No worries! I got what you mean

real dove
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but yeah, be cool to see her come back... she's a fav of one of my crew

granite shard
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I wonder wtf finch was doing, killing her mom

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Yeah aside from lulu & sofia (bc insane lesbian rights) she’s prob my favorite of the girls

real dove
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whoa wut blocked content? how? what part was bad? the smooth? or the brain?

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huh. odd. regardess, I dig her too, lean more to felis but she's got a cool background/look

granite shard
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😂😂 wild

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There’s so many cool legendaries. I wish hunt would do like what Overwatch does and release stand-alone short stories that elaborate further on characters

real dove
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same. I still hope they will eventually stop adding new hunters and instead add new skins for current hunters, akin to rainbow 6, but somehow I doubt they will. The thing we had a while back with interviews with hunters was super neat, maybe they'll do more on that... or release some kind of records keeper that keeps clippings and such on hunters

granite shard
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I’d LOVE to see like “after however long in the bayou” variants for hunters

real dove
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but that's a really dead horse we all keep beating

upbeat kiln
granite shard
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When the infected was being teased, I was hoping that it was like

real dove
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Ha i think all of ours are

granite shard
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Billy revenant style

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Since it was going along w the Billy and the stalker beetle stuff

real dove
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Yeah. I'd love to see pact skins, even just for the main head of the pacts... Be neat to see some of the BB hunters with infected or otherwise messed up skins... etc. Or see a Cain that someone managed to actually get in a bath

granite shard
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He’d die if that happened

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😂😂

real dove
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Next event: Bath of Cain

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you gotta coax him outta the mud and spray him down with water guns

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melee weapons are scrub brushes and bars of soap

granite shard
#

sdfasdkj

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felis and weird sister also

real dove
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lol most the crew could do with a bath

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the idea of just clocking Cain in the jaw with a bar of soap made into knuckles amuses me immensely

granite shard
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it's super effective

real dove
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instant KO

visual finch
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Black Coat is the smellies hunter change my mind

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with that coat in the Bayou

real dove
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Billy too... you're probably not wrong

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Wet dog smell

visual finch
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Good point

real dove
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moldy wet coats... couple that with what looks like a lack of soap and hygiene... pretty much all the fur wearers are gonna have a bad time

visual finch
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Au De Bayou

noble scarab
real dove
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LOL yes. I kinda want a Duck Hunter crossed with PWS game starring our dirtiest Hunters as the ducks....

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Who would be the cleanest ie the one washing them all down?

visual finch
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Well Cain has already been powerwashed 1HuntLUL

noble scarab
real dove
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yeah, he made the most sense to me too

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was trying to think if we had some other "clean freak" hunter but no-one came to mind

noble scarab
real dove
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Firehose that man

noble scarab
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I bet the Pinkertons and law enforcement are decently clean.

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Maybe some of the church hunters, godliness being next to cleanliness and all

real dove
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I was envisioning a really tired and fed up hunter yelling at all the other ones running around all dirty just going "TRUST ME, YOU WILL SMELL BETTER" and they're all "NOOOOO"

visual finch
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And The Flagellant, well..

real dove
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Lonely is doing sad puppy eyes, reptilian is laying in the mud hissing, cain is in the bushes obv, felis is in a tree with weird sister....

noble scarab
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The flagellant probably thinks bacterial infection adds to his penance

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I’d imagine most people are nose blind to it all. Everything down there is rotting. They talk about marching through the pluff mud and heron bones. All of the rotting corpses, plus whatever a meathead smells like.

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Fuck whatever initiation the AHA does the real initiation is getting dunked in the swamp for the first time.

real dove
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You're probably right... I work in a rather rank profession, and yeah, it takes about a week for folks to become desensatized to smells, unless its really bad

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or they just don't make it lol. but true, they probably just don't even notice it anymore

visual finch
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yeah same

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I worked for a year-ish in a slaugherhouse and the first week was weird

real dove
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and if you're coming to deal with the situation in louisiana, odds are you are already used to it all

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Oh? How so?

visual finch
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I kept smelling meat on my clothes even after a shower, but my gf insisted that she didn't perceive it

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So it was enbedded in my nostrils

real dove
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Ah. At least it was limited to just you tho... I work with hogs and there are days that no amount of scrubbing and soap makes the smells go away

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and the bf will tell me lol

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Have a very good idea of what a meathead smells like tho 🙂

visual finch
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hogs are cute

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Reading the lore of the meathead i don't even want to imagine the smell

real dove
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I love my girlies, it's like having 3000 dogs that scream at you for attention, food, or just cause they like screaming lol

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and the bablies

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lil hams ❤️

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but yeah, its... potent

visual finch
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I've been to many live show and festivals, i guess it's similar 1HuntLUL

white pasture
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3000 dogs your being friendly towards so you can eat them? Reminds me of high-school

foggy sundial
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You cannot be serious

white pasture
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Oh no I worked in Highschool raising eating dogs.

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Man, those smells

granite shard
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the witch hunter probably smells the least bad

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maybe the phantom

white pasture
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But not as bad as those working in slaughter houses...

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Trust

slim star
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Nervous >discussion of which hunter smells more<

granite shard
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it's the really important tier list: which hunter would you hate being forced to sit next to on the carriage ride into the bayou the least

foggy sundial
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The remmnant

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I might have gotten his name mixed up with the game remmnant

earnest jungle
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I’m pretty sure that dude infected with the plague is the one who smells the worst guys body is clearly rotting

foggy sundial
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Even worse he learned about ace body spray

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I’ll just go with the typo and work off it

real dove
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Eh, diseased flesh/ pus kinda has a sickly sweet scent over a true rotting body

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I think the furry guys would reek to high hell... all that sweat and BO, combined with all the nasty shit the coats would absorb... bleh

visual finch
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Monroe smell of freshly cutted grass and lavander

real dove
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Granny smells of fresh cookies and blood

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Oh yeah, she's another furry... and she likes to decorate with guts...

pearl abyss
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odd lore question, out of all the 5 bouty counting the rotjaw who is the likely easiest one to kill for the hunters? I always thought butcher because just chuck a sticky at him and your done usally

real dove
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Butcher fo sho

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He's the least threatening, runs at you instead of hiding in the walls, doesn't collect all the resources in the compound, and isn't out in the open... and can be easily killed with melee

upbeat kiln
pearl abyss
upbeat kiln
pearl abyss
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that's fair. i can see why scrapbeak would be 2nd or more easy to kill in lore. just chuck a sticky and that be fine

noble scarab
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New trailer, and I think that’s a new hunter model too, looks like a mix of tier 2s

rotund ferry
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The new boss?

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Possibly chests?

upbeat kiln
amber harbor
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Maybe finally hunter customisation?

slim star
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They found the treasure, oh boy the curse is free

mellow mantle
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What was the point of the whole pact looking for a treasure if two random shmucks found it

slim star
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Honest common 1 star tier 2 hunter W

white pasture
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Rotjaw is also the least valuable and provides the least compensation.

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Assassin isn't restricted to the Bayou and actively Hunts those viewed as threats. Spider actively avoids fighting if possible. Butcher is who would show up when wide spread violence is required.

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Assassin, gonna be the most dangerous. It's purpose is to kill specific humanoid threats to the Sculptors designs. Can or could appear human and can enter cities and such.

grizzled pilot
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Im pretty sure assasin is confined to the bayou just like the rest of the bosses
Since what we see in Harold's journals is a process of transformation - from a man to the boss he is in the game
Or at least that's how l understood it

mellow mantle
grizzled pilot
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Mb😔

real dove
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I'd say he's trapped now, since the sculptor has claimed him and he's a shell - a fragmented shell- of his former self

slim star
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At the end of it all, the sculptor is just the manifestation of evil that inherent to humanity- calling it rn unless the writers wanna wuss out

pearl abyss
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i wonder a bit now about the hunters, do they have like their own rank of best hunter to worst? Like top three hunters of the month or fucking hunter of the month?

white pasture
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They are bounty Hunters one would imagine those that claim the most are well known. Basically life or death competitive sport.

white pasture
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He could have been a bug monster to begin with and the Sculptor corrupted him. But the things from the otherworldly are sentient and have plans.

vernal stag
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Got the drilling lore together

drilling1.jpg drilling2.jpg
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Railroad Hammer (maybe by cain's brother?!?!)

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untold blaze
vernal stag
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Slate Riposte. Short story about a dlc hunter from 4 years ago.

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white pasture
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Sweet thanks

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I just read all the lore related entries for the "moon" trilogy and it literally unintelligible. So does Linus get his heart ripped out in King Snake Mine? Because that doesn't make sense. Chary\Nightseer flee, seal mine with dynamite, everyone trapped with Ochkenov (sp). Next relevant entry in the next event Kevin clawing Chary's skull and gets heart ripped out by her. Chary twirls away.

Wtf happened in the mine when everyone is trapped by Chary with her in the mine?

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Same people appear to be present. Events have to separated by some time. But nothing about the confrontation in the Mine? The culmination of the Event? The author likewise describes The Viper as "hulking" and "massive" when they are anything but.

rotund ferry
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Hunt has demonstrated it's inspiration from the Christian religion numerous times over

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I think Abel being a legendary hunter mirroring Cain would be a cool idea

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Adam and Eve also had a third child named Seth

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so Cain possibly has 2 brothers

white pasture
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If Cain had a brother he could be name anything. Biblical names were/are common reality is only one required here.

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Though Cain was a Salter?

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Think his shotgun uses the bones of his brother as well.

hasty cliff
rocky bloom
untold lodge
# white pasture I just read all the lore related entries for the "moon" trilogy and it literally...

No they make it out of Kingsnake, don't ask how they just did and Kevin dies again. The whole point of Devils Moon is they realize Chary is also invincible and need him to breathe in certain smoke to lose his powers (hence the wildfire time of day). Then they finally catch him, he's about to die and the Widow shows up and Kevin dies. It's basically a repeat of Serpent moon which is why as an ending to a trilogy it's awful.

white pasture
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And the beginning and the end, but seriously there is no material covering the events directly following the Serpent moon? Ignoring the premise of Chary being "invincible". Part of the entire setting is the mortality of even the best and most powerful.

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Just wanted to confirm it makes zero fucking sense.

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Like they didn't even storyboard the 3 events. Crytek should make the next three Starwars movies.

untold lodge
white pasture
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But thats what is always was it was just well written and compelling.

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The Fluff for why Trios were introduced is interesting, why matches have time limits is interesting.

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What soul survivor is was interesting the fleshed out the world.

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Now an actual ongoing narrative is literally incoherent nonsense.

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The new creative team is mimicking what they believe is what made the Hunt lore compelling.

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non-linear, disjointed, dark, difficult to parse.

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But with none of the writing ability or knowledge to understand you cant do that with in-game story arcs...

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Narratives that literally must be paid for

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I mean they know Chary isn't invincible to begin with. He gets shot and wounded/harmed soon after his introduction...

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Which is also another huge tone change. Doesn't matter what it is, how quickly it regenerates, Hunters kill shit that does both all the time.

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You blow it apart, immobilize it by destroying its limbs, burn it to ashes, use magic.

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But not Chary whose primary "invincibility" was he could dodge bullets. Any other time he takes injury but can regenerate the same as nearly everyone else.

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Hope they fire the new head writing or whatever the title is.

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Creative design, because they are not good at their job

granite shard
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Ooh I’m glad to see llorona’s heir getting some lore

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She has one of my favorite hunter designs

lost dew
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So, in the tide of shadows lore, i think the last one, Gar refers to the Skinned as "the Reptilian and his kin." Are we to believe that Killian just has a good enough relationship with the guy that killed his dad to want to work with him and his "kids"? Or am I maybe misinterpreting something?

silver tapir
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Gar refers to Reptilian, Hornback, and Scaled Ward, not Killian. she kills Killian as he is trying to confront Reptilian

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or that's at least how i read it

untold blaze
lost dew
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Wait but Scaled Ward wasn't mentioned there at all, so I think thats why I was confused

rotund ferry
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Gar, Reptillian, Scaled Ward and Skinned were all in Primal

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Daughter of decay, Cardinal rain, fang shearer and teche wraith were all in grounded

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and carcass gunrunner, deckhand, rat and helmsman were all in smugglers

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the way the story had it sound though is that Reptillian, Scaled ward, skinned and hornback were in primal but seperate from Gar

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my understanding is that the only reason Reptillian and Skinned were working together rather than killing each other is because they had a shared goal

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but once that shared goal was reached the bloodshed was back on and they would be trying to kill each other again

white pasture
real dove
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tracks, common enemy/goal temp cancelled fued, but once it's reached, they are back at it again

lost dew
white pasture
# lost dew Is he?

Cardinal rain is denigrating their skills and corruption as she follows behind.

lost dew
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I thought that was with Gar, on her first chapter

white pasture
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Thought it was Gar commenting on the Wards lack of skill and ability?

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"His children are easily followed, that Ward and the hornbacked on. They're clumsy. They move with the steps of drunk fairies and leave their filth like crumbs.
I can lick a beetle and tell of their direction. That is the filth they leave behind."

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So o vios

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So yeah, Ward included...

lost dew
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Yea yea, you said it was Cardinal Rain though, hence the confusion

white pasture
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I read them all in a sitting scrolling either way Ward present and mentioned. Dont try to make sense of any of it. It's not that "level" of story telling.

#

its literally "mystery box" gimmicks instead of few thousand coherent words

white pasture
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Moral of the story randoms thrown into an unexplained scnernio with no stakes, with no ultimate goal, defined conflict that makes any sense with a no resolution. Fresh on the back of a nonsensical trilogy that makes the new Starwars look like Shakespeare.

#

Whose the lead writers name?

white pasture
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And the while drowning them thing, think authors got confused and now she IS the spirit instead of just using the name.

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They should have also made Circe the sister to Hannnah (meat head midwife) since it fits so tight already without introduction another set of weird shit

slow pebble
lost dew
# slow pebble Yeah the story is a mess

It's a shame, I got so excited when I found out one of my favorite legendaries was kinda important in the new event only to find out the actual story makes little to no sense

rotund ferry
#

let's calm down

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I can still find some enjoyment out of Hunt's writing

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but the Star wars sequel trilogy? God...

vernal stag
#

Uppermat story lore. I think this is the best one of the new pages.

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slim star
noble scarab
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oh shit, he could be infected

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heading out of the bayou like that

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but also that once again retcons and shits all over the "one hour time limit" thing

slim star
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says “down in louisiana” so may live north of louisiana, which Colorado is

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There’s not a lot here, but there could be a thread of something if they wanted to expand

vernal stag
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Small mention of that in one of the ammo entries.

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rotund ferry
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It's weird how he didn't immediately turn by going deeper into the swamp

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Maybe a natural immunity? or maybe he is infected and is ground zero for an outbreak in Colorado

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I like how he just ditches his Uppermat which is logically the only thing you should do with that gun

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I half expected the hunter crew that came in to help him with Assassin to just kill him and take his Uppermat or at least mug him

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It was nice of them to offer him a spot among the hunters but clearly he didn't have that final bit of courage needed to do it

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Even though he's not a hunter this Micah Mitchell fella must have incredible sneaking skills if he made it out of the Bayou and all the way back up north to Colorado without the firepower of his Uppermat

upbeat kiln
#

William Salter spent weeks, if not months, in the infected parts of the bayous and had a slow decline into insanity. However, he recovered after leaving the dead zone - only took a few days in both cases as documented by the patient journals written by Finch at the Jackson Asylum. I don't think you stay infected if you leave the "sphere" of influence. I think it's a slow decay that only gets worse the longer you remain within its corrupting touch, until you finally hit the point of no return.

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Then again, he did have direct contact with the Assassin and its bugs. That might have sealed the deal.

tired spear
real dove
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Love the new story, that's hilarious. Dude is not about it

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Bayou Boogeyman lol. Love "The dead walk the earth as if Hell is full" great line

granite shard
#

this man fucked around and found out

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it would be cool if this is part of the lead up to the next map, but at the same time I think it would be even funnier if this guy went fuck this shit I'm out he just gets the fuck out of dodge and doesn't have to deal w it again

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I like that the assassin is now both the researcher's ex and also the bayou boogeyman. iconic

real dove
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I love the idea that this guy went naw dawg I dont fuck with that and left. I imagine he walked back to whereever he came from with both hands up high, giving everything the bird

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I prefer to not gargle beetles thanks

granite shard
#

cousin jonah is about to learn that some rumors shouldn't be shared

granite shard
real dove
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lololol

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could you not: a break up letter from Harold Black to the Assassin

granite shard
#

dslkf

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"I really thought we had something special but you were just using me to find people to kill and also are a sentient mass of bugs ):"

real dove
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While I enjoyed crawling in the sheets with you, you took that to a new meaning and I'm not about that

granite shard
#

FLKSADKL

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harold in the clinic trying to talk in vague terms about his ex partner while getting tested

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"I mean. yeah I guess I should get tested for bugs. Viral and, you know, actual bugs"

real dove
#

The poor nurse trying so hard to ignore the roach crawling outta his ass while she takes her swabs....

granite shard
#

laksdf I just recoiled

real dove
#

it's a VACUUM in there ladies and gentlemen

slow pebble
granite shard
#

and after all of this, the researcher still isn't the grossest hunter that nurse has come across

real dove
#

nope. still not sure who would win the prize. May be one of the weirdest things tho for her.

slow pebble
#

Contained storylines are good but the fact that they have a foundation then a giant gap that doesn't connect to anything currently happening (or even the moon trilogy, which might as well just be retconned at this point), and then they just write themselves into a corner is unorganized.

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So they go ''fuck it'' and just take the story into a 180 and tell something completely different without properly tying up loose ends or even making it naturally flow into whatever they write next.

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Shit just happens and characters the lobotomite fans gawk over do.. things?

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Most of it is so inconsequential its kind of funny.

real dove
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Better yet her face when other hunters show up with bugs in various fun locations...

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"These hunters and their weird bug fetishes"

granite shard
#

😂😂

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The game of “did the assassin seduce another hunter or did they just fight him”

real dove
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Lol- if bounty, they fought him... but if no bounty... HatEyes

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but i got 3rd partied mhm SURE

rotund ferry
granite shard
#

I'm curious abt how the zone works

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and what would happen if a person was infected in one zone and then went into another area dealing w the same sort of infection

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since it's implied that similar things are happening elsewhere in the world

upbeat kiln
real dove
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They all need more lore 😦 I'd assume that once they take the innoc, they can no longer really "leave" the region, drawn perpetually to the hunt/bounty/rifts

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Step out of the infected zone, sure, but actually leave and go elsewhere not so much. unless this is proof of that, and hunters can overcome that and leave... of coarse this could have been some random who though he could do what so many could not and promptly shoved foot in mouth, or rather beetles

red spear
real dove
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Yeah. With her stuff I'd think that most of the hunters can't leave- once the innoc is injected, you're bound to the Hunt, whether you like it or not. It explains why hunters DGAF about killing each other over working together too- sure, it's first come first serve, but when you add the addiction aspect from the innoc, you get a bunch of deranged killers. Sure, we've got more level minded hunters in the crowd, but I wonder if under all that they're just as blood thirsty as the rest. Would make it weird to have the next map be states away from the current maps tho... i guess you could argue that if the sculptor's influence has spread, and thus they'd go to the new location in order to get that high. Dunno, I'm kinda on the fence about having a map really far from the region, in a totally different state

noble scarab
#

Before the sculptor we do have examples of Hunters in other areas, moving from place to place with no issue. The Asian hunters, and Charlie Salter for example. So I think you can move to new hunting grounds but you probably can’t get rid of the bloodlust or maybe you’re more drawn towards it

livid crypt
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So far as I've understood this Innoculation Hunters take it damns their soul? I saw the whole part with what happens when they investigate the clues in the lore (Or what it implies what happens), and what the whole Salvation part in QP/Soul survivor is all about. So is every single Hunter in this game bound for "Hell" when they die?

Sidenote: If that's the case, was Charys whole deal that he was planning on simply overflowing Hell with hunters and do a coup? 😂

noble scarab
rotund ferry
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But since she's basically a super grunt I'm assuming she's too far gone

white pasture
white pasture
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But one involving plants and herbs and shit is mentioned. As is the "serum" changing over time. Seems like Lynch's serum is to Mass produce Hunters.

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Though the serum being tainted with demonic/darkness is almost always mentioned even pre Lynch

slim star
#

The hunters could also just like… say no, the sculptor can’t legally corrupt your soul leading to your damnation and violation of your humanity if you don’t consent

white pasture
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Most just die and their corpses used.

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Then again you see, corpses that obviously committed suicide or died some way other than violence and aren't grunts.

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Seems like REAL Hunters use a variety of means to resist it and are have knowledge and defenses against it. But the lore is conflicting. I mean Hunters are supposed to insta die If in the.bayou longer than 1hr (now 45mins) that's lore.

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But many of the stories imply differently.

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But the named Hunters often have access and knowledge of the occult that predates this specific event. And we know New York is having an active incursion at the same time.

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And the Cascades and somewhere in Asia?

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The Timothy Stone event/story speaks of Hunters not part of the AHA that the AHA actively destroyed.

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I THINK how its supposed to work is OG Hunters are from bloodlines dating to someone was special. And blood of someone from those bloodlines was used to create new Hunters. After a long screening/vetting process.

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But there is all manner of occult ritual involved in this transaction. Like the Rule of Two.

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And then what occured to allow Trios.

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Lynch mentions she sells the syrum she males to Huff calling him an idiot and seems like it's not something they can make on their own.

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Think Romero Hatchet lore has guy using serum based on plants, Hardin uses one that's drank not injected (he was also trained by Lynch to make these things and summoning demons isn't mentioned...).

white pasture
vernal stag
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What's next? Are you goign to say it's unrealistic that the american military isn't getting involved?

white pasture
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I'm saying you can't travel across the land without knowing said land and purchasing supplies hahah

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I'll just go South West for a month im sure I'll find it eventually...

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He actively ignores all possible means of finding out where he is going and why. beyond cousin Cletus saying a monster be a lurking in another state...

upbeat kiln
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white pasture
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What other accounts is there that shows leaving the area won't stop the corruption? I can't think of any of the top of my head.

white pasture
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Female, in the Timothy Stone series. And just by that context its shown that proximity doesn't change the disease. Salter had moments of lucidity within the Bayou while commiting heinous acts.

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You have various researching trying to find ways to treat this illness i think proximity would be easily ruled out. We know when you bring corrupted corpses outside the zone they remain virulent, (armored Harold Black)

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And Salter was coherent for a bunch of the murders he commited.

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That and Hunters certainly believe they are damned, proximity and interaction gonna speed it up of course.

upbeat kiln
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red spear
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So it could be that the tales of Timothy Stone were fiction based on a real person (real in the game universe)

upbeat kiln
red spear
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The lunae diaboli, yes, but the wax recording of Timothy Stone I'd gander is real

upbeat kiln
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not trying to be rude lol I'm genuinely curious

red spear
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The battlepass chapters in Devil's Moon were a mix of snippets from Lunae diaboli and what appear to be documentation of real events. My thought s were that lunae diaboli was a theatric retelling of real events that happened. Hence how we have a fictional story about Kevin Linus but also real letters he wrote being sent to real hunters internationally

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The thing is, like several people have mentioned before; the timeline is completely messed up. That's why BATS, the Moon Saga, and potentially the Tide of Shadows and what follows, are as far as I'm concerned only messed up because none of it happened. That's why it can all coexist at the same time. I think it's that whole "it was all a dream"-rug pull.

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I could be wrong of course. It's just my guess

red spear
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God I hope they don't go down the dream route. I'd be so disappointed

upbeat kiln
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I'll have to go back and check dates in Devil's Moon. Especially since the new documents with Micah were dated 1893 iirc

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I also need to look back at BATS for dates. It's all just getting too confusing

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I don't have the game readily available to boot up, but is there anywhere in the BATS chapters that says it takes place in 1895?

white pasture
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white pasture
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Simple logic dictates once infested by the disease leaving the area fixes it. Maybe you wont be raised as a possessed Grunt but youll still die

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Grunts and other Bayou creatures are constantly trying to expand being stopped with force.

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And I dont believe the Hospital as a original point of corruption yet it ran rampant in it.

red spear
real dove
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I think it's plausable, provided that it all happens back to back to back... but need to check dates to make sure on the events. Tide of Shadows, provided it takes place during hurricane season, would be late july-september, so there is time in there for the moons to have happened before ToS started. plus most of the lead up of ToS- getting Princess/RotJaw, destruction of delphine, etc happened prior to the actual event, we're dealing with the aftermath

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"this has roots in reality and the core events did happen, but we are now getting retellings of it that have been embellished as fiction

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like we can see that kevin did exist, and the fight against chary did happen from the letters recovered

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but did mary pop his heart like a balloon? probably not

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I think that's one of my favorite things abt hunt lore personally, I like that it's this non-linear story told in a way that makes you have to sit down and figure out what's real vs what's fiction. it really does nail that "researcher coming in well after the fact" vibe to me

real dove
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True, but I do think they could clarify a bit the timeline on stuff. Sure, we can have multiple things going on at once- delphine goes down while the devil moon happens- but I do think they could make reference to the previous event some to show how shit is going down some

granite shard
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oh they absolutely need to clarify the timeline lol

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they need to push the lore into 1896, and push other stuff back to like 1894 rn

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and tbh I don't think that's an impossible task, or even one a lot of people would notice. I would say people who post in this channel pay more attention to the lore than like. 99.5% of hunt players, so saying huff died in 1894 would be a pretty minor change all things considered

real dove
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Truth. Wouldn't be hard either, just release it as a clarification- found newspaper or something IDK. hell, even if they said hey, we're gonna go back and change dates to make the story/events make more sense, sorry, thanks for not rioting I'd be cool with it

granite shard
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yeah!

real dove
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Be like yeah dawg, change them dates

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Then implement a lore book, so that 1) they can actually keep track of the lore in a way that makes sense time wise, and 2) so we can examine lore all the time

granite shard
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like I think what could work would be
Late 1893: twins kill black coat
Early 1894: twins build up notoriety and lynch enters the scene
Mid 1894: lynch kills huff
late 1894: chary rises to prominence in the AHA
dec 1894-march 1895: the trials and tribulations of the poorest little meow meow (kevin)
june 1895: tide of shadows

real dove
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would work. They could tighten it up some, have the moon events all happen spring/summer of 94, with ToS happening fall of 94

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assuming the moons are back to back full moons

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would need to push lynch and twins forward some tho

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but still. would be cool if they said, hey, we realize some of this stuff makes no sense, we're gonna go in and fix dates, bear with us. I agree, 99% of folks wouldnt even know the change

granite shard
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I'm guessing that the tide trilogy will take us through the end of 1895

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so map 4 is in 1896

real dove
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mmmm. shall see. still not big fan of a map happening away from the infected region, was hoping for a big city map, but still in the gothic south. shall see i guess.

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little less swamp, little more farmland, maybe some kinda mountains tho there are none in Louisiana, closest are in Arkansas/texas... so if they put the next map there, saying yeah, it's spreading, I'd bee cool with it

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unless this is a totally new sculptor

granite shard
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I like the idea of it expanding the infected region

real dove
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Yeah. Zero issue with that- the sculptor has taken advantage of all the infighting to grow stronger. Lynch shows up again cause she has beef with the sculptor and hates that the AHA is doing flip all about it. Brings in her boo Enola/Gar to fight on her side cause she's about that girl power

granite shard
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so I was going back through the ToS lore

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I don't think lynch shoved enola into the gar, but I do think that the cardinal rain was seeing through her in her first entry

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real dove
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man, it would be cool if during the heavy rain, if you catch her on the banks, she's drinking the rain

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I enjoy catching her on the banks normally, sleepy quiet girly

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but seeing her snapping at the rain, that'd be cute AF

livid crypt
real dove
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Oh yeah. For sure, be hella cute.

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Okay. So I'm going out on the biggest limb with this theoretical timeline I've concocted. And it works out by rearranging the order in which the Moon trilogy and Tide of Shadows happens and assuming the events of BATS and Tide of Shadows slightly overlap. It's messy, I apologize for the crap formatting, I'm running on like 4 hours of sleep.

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(Part 1)
No concrete idea of range of time for events of BATS except when Huff dies (Huff determined to still be alive as late as June 29, 1895)

  • Possible range of BATS before his death could be months, even a year or more
  • In chapter 4 Lynch speaks of the infection as if it’s a relatively new problem, hence the starts of BATS could be as early as 1893
  • Lynch to Huff: “Haven’t you sent enough people to their grave this week?” could be referencing Caldwell killing Finch’s men? And said to him right before slitting his throat (last dated entry involving Huff) which would mean Huff died in early July 1895
  • This allows for possibility that Chary was already a member of AHA in a smaller, less notable, capacity and expanding his influence and power over months or even years (Elise Austin’s journal entry in Devil’s Moon would back this theory by stating Chary worked his way up the ladder)

Tide of Shadows:

  • There is absolutely no talk of the AHA actually being dismantled, it could still be intact at this time; unless someone can find a document to prove otherwise
  • Lynch approached Enola shortly after her fight with Jos and Fin in July
  • Finch enters scene May 2, 1895 per Huff’s correspondence letters (intended to work at Louisiana Asylum for 6 months starting end of May)
  • Finch could be working with Smugglers the same way he worked with the patients at the asylum
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(Part 2)
Rounding back to Elise Austin’s document she talks about the Infernal and Lunar pacts, and at the time we only had the context of three pacts in Devil’s Moon

  • The pacts in Tide of Shadows are relatively small; only a handful of people per pact mentioned; so they are manageable and not much of a threat to the AHA; but by Devil’s Moon Timothy Stone is talking about hundreds of hunter’s names being in his ledger meaning the pacts are growing exponentially within the span of months

Moon Trilogy: There are no dates on any documentation to establish when the trilogy happened except the Louisiana Lady’s Periodical dated 1903

  • So I am theorizing strictly on dates when it was a full moon

Traitor’s Moon chapter 1: States Chary is new admin (we’ll assume appointed relatively soon after Huff’s death in July)

Traitor’s Moon chapter 5: Kevin witnessed Chary sacrifice people over several full moons which would take us out of the summer of 1895

  • If we want to line this up with the Auld lang syne chapter in Devil’s Moon (coincidentally, or not(?), it was a full moon on December 31st 1895) and say each event of the trilogy happened with each previous full moon, that would mean Kevin shot Chary in Traitor’s Moon on November 2, 1895)
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If there are documents that would disprove any of this please tell me and please link them because I'd like to start compiling evidence for a timeline

real dove
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seems solid to me. good work!

restive patrol
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So sad that they retconned that