#lore-discussion

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humble ridge
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Springfield M1892 Krag Bayonet mastery

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Springfield M1892 Krag Sniper mastery

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hasty raven
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Water Devil mamas

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how sweet

granite shard
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Oh shit is lynch finally coming back into relevance???

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God rotjaw is such a baby I love her so much

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How am I supposed to kill her when she’s just a sweet girl who loves her friend!!!

red spear
granite shard
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CRIES

red spear
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Crytek pls this hurts too much

granite shard
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🥺🥺🥺

red spear
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#saveprincess1895

granite shard
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I’m the number 1 Kevin liker and rotjaw supporter

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If rotjaw has zero fans it means I’m dead

red spear
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Mama Bear protecc mode activates

granite shard
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😂😂😂

red spear
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And that's definitely got to be Lynch! I'm scared what is going to happen to Enola in the next mastery chapter

granite shard
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Ikr

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I’m super pumped to see what she’s gonna start doing

mellow mantle
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Guys guys

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Can you get me this picture in better resolution?

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It's last offer on black market

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Back street deals or something

celest notch
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I tried to enhance the pic, this as good as it gets

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mellow mantle
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Hm

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Apparently it depends on the size of hunter's name

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Because it looks okay for Marshal Brewer

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Still cant read the cursive though

celest notch
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The bearer of this contract, hereby referred to as client, may issue to the relevant party, hereby referred to as supplier, requests for the provision of services, assistance and blood. The manners and limitations of such requests may confer to or exceed conventions, in so far that certain protections issued under state and federal law have, willingly or not, been suspended.
Services could therefore include (but are not limited to) assault, homicide, assassination, and wholesale slaughter. Remuneration to the supplier for services rendered remains at the client's discretion, where obligation has been formally withheld.

Yeah I know you're asking for the cursive part, that'll require my pc, cause my phone is not cooperating either

mellow mantle
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Thanks anyway

celest notch
# mellow mantle Thanks anyway

The client is not liable for risks undertaken by the supplies, while risks are still formally
encouraged. This contract is not limited to a set timeframe, while death naturally offers
the option to negotiate for release

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Xd

mellow mantle
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What's urgeliate?

celest notch
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Lmfao

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Negotiate

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My phone auto correct is a bit dumb

mellow mantle
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OK, thanks

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Mountain Man energy

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earnest jungle
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LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH!!

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I don’t know if it’s her but a woman with silvery hair showing up in the land of the dead sure as shit sounds like her

granite shard
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yeah that's her

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I think all references to the woman with white hair is her

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so like obvi bad as they seem, the stuff directly about her, this, and I think the phantom's lore

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I wonder if she'll become a force opposing chary

earnest jungle
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If Lynch is back in the Bayou that’s bad news for everyone

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Previously I assumed it was Charry who was experimenting on Princess, but that is no longer a sound assumption if Lynch has taken an interest in Princess or Enola

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I’m not even sure everything she did in the demon summoning ritual was strictly necessary I’m pretty sure she was just torturing that guy for her own sadistic amusement

zinc depot
# mellow mantle Still cant read the cursive though

The client is not liable for risks undertaken by the supplier, while risks are still formally encouraged. This contract is not limited to a set timeframe, while death naturally offers the option to negotiate for release.

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oh someone else got ya with a reply first, whoops

earnest jungle
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I do wonder if we’re ever going to see Lynch in game

white pasture
earnest jungle
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The False Saint skin opened up the door to Lore Characters becoming in playable hunters but I wonder if Lynch would be better as a hunter or as a bounty target

white pasture
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Was there lore before the event about him?

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or not made for the event leading up to it

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Several lore characters are playable as is

earnest jungle
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Linus was a central character in the Moon trilogy

white pasture
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Yeah, but I mean before that there wasnt any lore about him.

earnest jungle
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No

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He was not a lore character in that sense then

white pasture
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Professor, Black Coat a many others are lore characters

earnest jungle
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I think Black Coat was a hunter before he was lore character.

granite shard
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Kevin started as lore before getting a hunter skin

earnest jungle
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I can’t remember did legendary hunters come out before or after the book of weapons was introduced

granite shard
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I don’t think any others started as lore yet

white pasture
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I mean the Twins were certainly lore since the first dagger skin is theirs

granite shard
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I want to see lynch and the twins getting hunter skins

white pasture
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Professor wasnt in lore before skin?

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I mean it says his name in his bio.

tidal matrix
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What's the reverends lore

granite shard
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He was a pretty early legendary wasn’t he?

white pasture
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Had a church everyone died etc etc

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Im not sure only played couple years

tidal matrix
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What about hail mary

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Their my go to skins

granite shard
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So the lore stuff might have come after he was introduced, idk tho since I only started playing a few months before desalle

white pasture
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its years older than that

granite shard
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Hail Mary was excommunicated for an unknown reason and is trying to get brought back into the church basically

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Chary got her to hunt down Kevin by saying he was like satan spawn basically but she ended up going on his side after seeing him and realizing that he’s a poor little meow meow

white pasture
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Other names are mentioned in lore but not specifically attached the Hunters.

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Guess Hardin is one.

lunar sky
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What happened to lynch, did she disappear?

white pasture
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Banished by twins, who then closed all portals to wherever she went

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Snake god of some type told them what Lynch was and intended.

lunar sky
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Booooo that sucks

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Lynch skin when HUL

rotund ferry
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Well since we got a Kevin and Ochenkov skin it'd be possible to get a Lynch and Chary skin

upbeat kiln
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And just like that.. My girl has returned.

upbeat kiln
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@humble ridge You are keeping me on the edge of my seat here. When is part 4? 😄

upbeat kiln
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@earnest jungle How is Lynch in the Land of the Dead? I thought the entire reason she sent the twins there, was because she couldn't enter that place herself?

humble ridge
real dove
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Ahhhhh heck yeah she's BACK

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thank the gods, was really worried they'd tossed her out Viper style

granite shard
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Has anyone finished the BP to get all of the lore bits?

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I’m curious to see if the Delphine ties into the twins stealing something from the land of the dead, since it’s a weapons smuggling boat

earnest jungle
real dove
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How far have most folks gotten in the BP? I screen shot 1-4 of the lore bits, mean to upload but need to cut them down some/merge them into one long screen shot instead of a bunch of screenshots

icy brook
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A man of class

real dove
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?

humble ridge
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I don't know why you mentioned BP, but I have 7 event lore chapters unlocked

hasty raven
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Should have asked that guy who already had Gar I matched with the other day

real dove
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Eh, was just repeating the above use, guess event lore bits makes more sense. Wish I could afford to just buy out the whole thing lol.

silent pond
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I love the fact that this lore summary is entirely true

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Eldritch xerox machine

earnest jungle
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And that of the two the Sculptor is worse

silent pond
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In the lyrics of one of the songs, it's also stated that hunters do in fact worship The Christian Devil, in their battle against the Sculptor

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Both god and the devil, rather

red spear
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I'd say the wording 'rough equivalent' gives it a pass as a joke

red spear
silent pond
silent pond
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Can't remember the name of the song

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There's End Will Come which has the lyrics:
"One foot in hell, one sacred ground"

And there's Rise up Dead Man which iirc has the lyrics "Father, Devil let the gunshots ring" implying a prayer to both figures

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I might be wrong on the second one but that's what it sounds like she's saying to me

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On second listening, she's actually saying Fought the devil, which makes significantly less sense

red spear
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It looks like the verse before 'One foot in hell' is 'Ain't no grave can hold me down'

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So maybe it's saying this person is destined for hell, but their grave is in a church graveyard which is holy ground?

silent pond
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So my entire point is completely kaput. Fantastic.

red spear
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Hey, that's half the fun of speculating the lore here. Sometimes we're wrong, sometimes right, it's all good!

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And I think a lot of it is so vague that multiple interpretations can be correct

silent pond
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It REALLY doesn't help that with the singers accent, it does in fact sound like she was saying "father, devil" instead of "fought the devil"

red spear
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Honestly, I could see the devil or at least some major influences from hell wanting to help defeat the sculptor

earnest jungle
silent pond
earnest jungle
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Sorry

red spear
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Based on the biome differences of the land of the undead it seems to follow a similar pattern to purgatory and hell based on the descriptions between BATS and the Rotjaw lore

silent pond
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Personally, I can think of quite a few reasons as to why the devil himself or other conflated deities would want to kick the sculptor's ass

red spear
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And perchance one step further with where Kevin meets his parents after dying to Mary. Bright world of light that seems to go on forever

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earnest jungle
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I will say Hunters are a diverse group, most of them interpret the Louisiana event through a Christian lens and so syncretize the Sculptor with the Devil.

red spear
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Yeah, if the souls of the creatures hunters keep killing are being reused, I could see that

earnest jungle
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A lot of them also feel flat out abandoned by god.

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Sinner’s Blues contains the lyrics:
I'll be a sinner, all of my days
I'll be a sinner, all of my days
I ain't waitin' for Jesus, he's left us alone

red spear
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Is there anywhere that talks directly about how the energy of the boss bounties is used by the AHA? Or I guess now the new the pacts?

silent pond
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Ok, so, I've got a question; If earth is abandoned by the Christian God, does that mean that people who realize this would naturally turn to worshipping everything else? Be it the Sculptor, Satan, or other major deities like the Moon

red spear
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But I think others still believe in the Christian god to correct what's happening, aka the Reverend and Hail Mary

earnest jungle
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And the connection between the Sculptor and the Devil is not unfounded

red spear
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The new regen shot legendary that references the Reverend says it contains holy water, so clearly he's still siding with Jesus and the holy spirit

silent pond
earnest jungle
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The Clues that you investigate are rifts into the Sculptor’s realm and according to the older lore the air coming from them is hot and reeks of fire and brimstone.

silent pond
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Sorry, technically in this, Satan wouldn't be Satan all things considered. He'd just be called Lucifer, considering Satan translates to The Enemy

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And as far as I and certainly most hunters are concerned... The Sculptor is the closest thing to The Enemy

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Does that make sense?

earnest jungle
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Yeah but the point I was trying to make is it’s not for nothing hunters assume the Sculptor is the devil.

silent pond
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Fair enough

earnest jungle
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When you investigate clues you are thrust into the Sculptor’s realm and it is a fiery dimension of eternal pain and torment

silent pond
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So what you're saying is that there's a chance my theory is correct, and that not only has god abandoned us, but Satan/The Devil/Lucifer isn't in power. The Sculptor is

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That's bleak

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Somehow even bleaker than normal in the setting

earnest jungle
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My point is that in the Hunt Universe people interpret the cosmic horrors they encounter through the lenses of their religion, and religion has in turn been influenced by encounters with those same cosmic horrors.

silent pond
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Ah

earnest jungle
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Making it difficult tondetermine whether the Sculptor is the Devil and the Sculptor’s realm is hell, or the Christian Devil and hell were inspired by Christians encountering the sculptor and his realm.

red spear
silent pond
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I will say that, naturally, I think my theory makes a lot of sense, because, y'know, it's my theory. Everyone has their theories, and that's the fun part of all this

earnest jungle
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Whether the Christian God and Devil even exist is a matter up for debate both in universe and out.

silent pond
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I used to be Christian so I know a fair bit about Christian theology.
Mind if I explain something real quick?

earnest jungle
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The AHA’s researchers have been pretty evenly divided between people who whole heartedly believe in the occult and people who are skeptical of the occult.

silent pond
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Basically, god has literally abandoned us, left us to our own devices. This isn't much of a matter of debate, it's outright fact for a few sects of Christians. It's why we haven't seen any actual miracles for thousands of years (if you believe).
However, the Holy Spirit, thanks to Christ, is within everyone according to Christianity. That is what protects us.

So, even if god does exist in Hunt and has abandoned us in that timeline as well, there's still good cause to worship him, considering a part of him is within all of us.

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However, this is only if you believe in the holy spirit and this specific interpretation of it

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Sorry if that was increasingly off topic, I tried to tie it back into Hunt in the end.

earnest jungle
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Oh I’m fascinated by the various sects of Christianity and their theology.

red spear
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This is why I'm trying to teach myself more about Hinduism because a big tenant of theirs is to seek out others' knowledge and understanding of their respective faiths

silent pond
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Weirdly enough St. Nicholas is also considered the patron saint of sailors, which is probably how I confused him and Peter

red spear
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silent pond
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I'd say by this games interpretation it'd be less demons and more entities of varying amounts of malevolence and benevolence

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Wdyt?

red spear
# silent pond Wdyt?

Gah! I'm so terrible trying to give nuanced answers on the fly! Especially when talking religion in the context of this game 😅

silent pond
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Fair enough lol, I don't blame you

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This all got me thinking about the Old Testament and I want a Swarm of Locusts event or something

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That'd be so cool

red spear
silent pond
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Wait we already have that

red spear
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I honestly was way off when predicting the current trilogy being water that's influenced by the land of the dead. I thought it would be more of another deity that's more water based that is pissed with the way the pacts of the moon trilogy were dealing with things a la inferno

silent pond
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Yeah, same. I wasn't around for Inferno (regrettably) but I was theorizing that they would be inherently connected

red spear
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But I like this direction. The fact they're bringing back Lynch in this trilogy has me super excited

silent pond
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Same. I was disappointed when Lynch just sorta fucked off to wherever she came from in As Bad As They Seem

red spear
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silent pond
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I kinda want the water to turn bloodred at some point during the tides trilogy

red spear
silent pond
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They already have something similar in some areas. I think one of the slaughterhouses/pig farms has a bunch of waste-deep gore you can wade through

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But it would be significantly cooler if it was just a slightly brackish (as in; unpleasant) crimson

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silent pond
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Just raining blood while you're getting chased around by other hunters and grunts

silent pond
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Does anyone know if there's lore for Worm Bite anywhere? He's my favorite legendary hunter.

real dove
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Hey, just curious and not wanting to but in but... We know there are/have been previous sculptors. Are they all one and the same? Or akin to the riders of hell?

silent pond
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I'm fairly certain, at this point, that the Sculptor is a single being, but tbh anything could change that assertion. I'm open to learning

red spear
silent pond
red spear
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I don't think there's anything else on him except his bio in game

silent pond
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Damn. He's such a cool concept though. A grave digger that didn't quit his job, even after his... Patients? started rising back up

noble scarab
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it seems theres a handfull of hunters that kept tending things in the bayou after the infection started

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him, mama maye, and maybe a few others

silent pond
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Which is honestly the most respectable thing a hunter can have as a motivation. Just trying to keep some sense of normalcy in what is effectively hell on earth

vernal stag
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noble scarab
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in old lore there was the idea of "sculptors" as they identified this being as a particualy bad one

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new lore they just call it The Sculptor, its unclear if this is a direct retcon or if the Hunters just decided that this one was bad enough to be granted the title over all other entities that might do similar things

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also you have Lynch, who could possibly have been in the same class of being as the Sculptor, however she seems vastly more intelligent. the sculptor seems like a blind-idiot type entity that is merely forcing its way into the world, we never really see any intelligence from it

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the sculptor just sees something shiny or malleable and copies/pastes it

silent pond
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I was thinking that the Sculptor could be the Canaanite Baal, less commonly known as Beelzebub (the Lord of Flies)

noble scarab
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I think it’s been called that somewhere already

silent pond
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Really? Point me in the direction and I'll take a look

noble scarab
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An entry from one of the religious groups I think

silent pond
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The Canaanites are a pretty biblically prevalent group so I'm not surprised

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Also, I just discovered something that might vindicate my point about hunters worshipping both god and the devil.
"I called on the devil, and I called on the divine, I'll bring my sins to Jesus, tell him it was a rabbit in the mine"
From Port Sulphur band's song, Rabbit in the Mine

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Or something, idk. Just came across those lyrics and it finally clicked as to why i thought what I thought

red spear
# noble scarab the sculptor just sees something shiny or malleable and copies/pastes it

I don't know, I wouldn't call it a blind idiot type entirely. It's simplistic copy/paste tactic has created internal warring against hunters. It's directly and indirectly caused the death of hundreds (probably closer to thousands) of people, innocent citizens and hunters alike. And all the while it gets to sit back while an entire state's infrastructure implodes and organizations founded to fight things like it collapse on themselves.

noble scarab
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How much of the infighting is it directly responsible for tho? Most of it comes from greed or belief.

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Really it just shows that both parties are wholly incompetent.

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silent pond
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The Sculptor as we know it is an inherently malevolent entity

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Of course it reaps the rewards of hunters trying and failing to stop it

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I feel like that's the conclusion anyone with enough hindsight could come across.

red spear
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I'm just trying to argue that it's not a stupid means to get to that result. It's a work smart, not hard approach

silent pond
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Fair enough

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And I find myself agreeing

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There's a certain intelligence behind how it acts and effects things

red spear
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I've got a hunch. The grounded pact has now made an appearance in two events. And it's been stated the main actors like the Archeologist aren't allowing things like the necrotic rain or infernos get in their way of defeating the Sculptor. So I have to wonder, if there is a trilogy after this one if it's more focused on the corrupted earth itself, the "roots" of the problem if you will.

real dove
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Fair. I was curious, I remembered reading something in a letter akin to "we have a sculptor on our hands" that made me think they've had versions before.

noble scarab
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thats in the old lore

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unlcear if its no longer canon

upbeat kiln
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that particular piece

real dove
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Ah lame

upbeat kiln
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it was removed as well I think

real dove
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Makes sense then

silent pond
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Which sucks because I like the idea of there being multiple entities that were called the Sculptor, due to acting in similar ways

real dove
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Same. Multiple demons/beings of evil that pop up through the ages...

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This one is a plague one, disease and insects...

red spear
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Yeah, like the others just couldn't get their plans to stick as well as the one affecting Louisiana

upbeat kiln
real dove
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Yeah. Lame they cancelled that. Opens up other games or maps or modes

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Whatever you wanna call it.

red spear
real dove
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True.

noble scarab
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there are other monsters and things around to deal with, as well as other infections that may or may not be the sculptors doing

red spear
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So I wouldn't give up hope

noble scarab
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though there have been past infections, one in the cascades, one in NY, and one in the 1700s in the bayou, but those have all been dealt with

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i think the Nian in China may even be considered part of the Sculptor, but I'd hope not

red spear
icy brook
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Has anyone determined the function of Rotjaw as a boss? besides of course being water based muscle

real dove
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Eh, I'm not that worried about it for gameplay stuff, I don't mind the low number of maps/regions much, tho I do hope we get a big ass city akin to Denis in RDR2. moreso preferred the idea of there being other creatures under the sculptor banner that infect and corrupt in different ways, vs oh look it's hell come to earth and the devil is the bad guy

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icy brook
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I don’t have the whole picture of the event lore, but I wonder if the original just arrived by happenstance to the dead zone via the Delphine and Sculptor just liked the creature

red spear
real dove
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Do we know Gar's name?

noble scarab
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There's a decent chance Gar is the lady from the rotjaw lore

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enola maybe

real dove
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Okay neat I thought so

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If the og gar drowned... And lynch shoved enola inside

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Which is why she looks dead

red spear
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I think her bio said it's Maeve?

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Imma check

real dove
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Isn't that the daughter of decay?

noble scarab
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there is a name mentioned

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can't recall it tho

red spear
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Yeah, I might be remembering wrong

real dove
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Herg, I'll be sad if that's not true, she talks about riding the gator as a throne and damn if it doesn't kinda sound like enola riding princess in the deadlands

icy brook
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I’m really glad Lynch is back, I’m not too far along in the event because life stuff, but where is she referenced?

hasty raven
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Mastery

red spear
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It could still be her. Just with some amnesia or possessing Gar in some way, but has that gut instinct to find her princess

upbeat kiln
red spear
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Maux. That's Gar's name

real dove
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BATS, right? For lunch and the twins?

noble scarab
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lunch

real dove
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Oop

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Sorry, on my phone

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Usually on PC when on here

red spear
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Oh, her bio says carries the will of those many teeth onto land. Didn't Enola say she could feel teeth growing in her skull or something?

noble scarab
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no the autocorrect doest that all the time lmao

real dove
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I will be very excited if Far is Enola in some fprm

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Jesus. Form.

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Gar.

red spear
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Enola does say Lynch tells her she and Princess will be changed

real dove
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It makes so much sense the last prize of the event is Enola

red spear
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Did.... did we all just crack the code??

real dove
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Albeit changed, and not recalling her past

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I'm willing to put money down they are the same

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Lol

red spear
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Put money down by buying the rest of the battlepass LMAO

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jk

real dove
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I killed my own BB stock buying it myself, you're on your own lol

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But yeah, I talked with my duo partner the first night that Gar looks dead. Plus she's got 'reborn" in her bio

upbeat kiln
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Can we please have Lynch kill the Sculptor and destabilize the entire region, plunging the world into even darker chaos?

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I think my girl deserves the spotlight for a while now

real dove
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Agreed. I'm glad she's back. Maybe we'll get the twins too, coming to bring her down.

red spear
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@granite shard we may have to add a third member to our 'protecc at all costs' group

real dove
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?

upbeat kiln
red spear
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Super protective of Kevin and Princess. Might have to add Gar/Enola if the theory is right

granite shard
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Oh you think the gar is Enola?

real dove
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Oh gotcha

granite shard
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I don’t think they’re the same person, I’m thinking Enola will be like Kevin

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And we’ll get her in another event

red spear
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The wording in the Rotjaw mastery pages and Gar's bio are adding up to Gar and Enola being the same

granite shard
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Oh?

red spear
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But I could be wrong

granite shard
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It would be interesting if they were the same

red spear
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Enola talks about feeling teeth growing in her skull, right? Gar's bio says she carries the will of those many teeth onto land

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And that she was 'reborn' and that Lynch told Enola she would be changed forever if she wanted Princess back, AND that Gar yearns to ride the back of Rotjaw as her throne (the queen)

granite shard
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I guess what makes me hesitant to think they’re one and the same is that the gar ultimately wants to be the one to like be the apex predator whereas Enola just kinda loves princess

real dove
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Agreed. I will be shocked if it's not revealed the og gar 'maux'. Too many things that line up from what I've read so far. We know Enola is in the land of the dead, so could Lynch offer to revive her... But the process requiring a body and twisting the mind of the one revived?

granite shard
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Who wants to speedrun finishing up the rotjaw mastery so we can find out 😂😂😂

real dove
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Oop Tiny beat me to it

red spear
real dove
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Lol I'm eyeballing my monies and considering buying it out

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Just to know

granite shard
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I don’t think you could buy out the RJ mastery

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Just the BO

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BP*

real dove
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Unless it's the final rotjaw part that explains what happened

granite shard
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Yeah it’s her stuff that seems to be chronicling Enola

red spear
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So maybe like two souls intertwined? So that Maux still holds pieces of herself and her own consciousness, but now has this gut instinct to find Rotjaw like Enola does?

real dove
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Could be. Split personality/combined consciousness?

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Ugh. Someone unlock the final rotjaw lore and feed it to us hahaha

red spear
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@humble ridge over here no lifing their way through the many Rotjaw kills to get us this knowledge 😂

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You're doing the lord's work

real dove
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Truth!

humble ridge
hasty raven
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gah damn

white pasture
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He's easy to farm

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Couple explosives before aggro instantly dies

real dove
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She, Princess is a she.

white pasture
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Dont gender my alligator

celest notch
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Is a she tho

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Confirmed

white pasture
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We share a bond and he spoke in depth about his preference of gender.

celest notch
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Bruh...

white pasture
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dude, let it be what it wants to be

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how far has Rotjaw lore been revealed so far?

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anyone complete it?

red spear
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But... Crytek devs have explicitly used she and her when referring to Rotjaw

celest notch
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There's no way they aren't trolling

red spear
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Half the time they say things in this channel I have to wonder that lol

celest notch
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That makes 2 of us

white pasture
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Rotjaw is allowed to identify however he wants. Crytek doesn't own him!

noble beacon
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Crytek indeed does own her

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It’s all in section 24 A of article 206 XY90

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And they state that if Rotjaw deviates from her intended hired purpose they will take the code responsible for said dianosaurs existence and put it in a fish tank full of clown fish

tall spade
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What is the object on the Fang Shearer's belt? It looks like a circle with wire netting, like perhaps some sor of unfamiliar fish trap or a cooking screen?

white pasture
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Trap, some type of snare

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net

hasty raven
#

I haven't seen it but it sounds like you're describing a dreamcatcher

white pasture
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looks like one but appears to be large and functional

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guy is also a hunter/trapper

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Yeah a snare trap

candid helm
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i h ave a theory about the next biome

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i think it might be by the ocean

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with shipwrecks

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coastal marshes

white pasture
#

outter space

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Land of the Dead

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Win a match that opens a gate and your next match is in Land of Dead

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so requires two consecutive wins to reap the rewards.

real dove
#

I'd love if they had a wildcard where the land of the dead is corrupting the earth

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get to see sections of it. also be super neat if they had the delphine roaming the outside of the maps on the water areas, blowing it's horn akin to when we extract with teams incoming

earnest jungle
icy brook
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I have a sneaking suspicion the next map will or may include less waterlogged areas

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Which does make me wonder if rotjaw will be significantly easier to find

rotund ferry
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Usually the drought happens before the rainfall

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Next map might be snow

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I keep seeing people say they want something like this

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silent pond
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If the next map is snow, people will finally have a half decent reason to use the phantom. His cape and mask blend in perfectly

rotund ferry
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Same with Revenant

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I've joked about this in the past but if we get a snow map we should get a white version of the headsman

silent pond
rotund ferry
rotund ferry
silent pond
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A lot of people don't necessarily fully realize it but the Headsman is basically dressed up as an old timey sniper, sniper's hood included

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Of course I doubt that's intentional but it's interesting regardless

rotund ferry
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Hes also more historically accurate in terms of actual plague doctors than the actual plague doctor skin we have

silent pond
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Yeah, pretty much. There were actual cases of beak masked plague doctors though.

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One was notably apart of Italy's Black Death experience. Forgot his name but I did research on the topic in highschool

rotund ferry
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Wow funnily enough I chose the black death as a research topic in school too

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I even wrote a short fictional story about this vampire masquerading as a plague doctor offering a "cure."

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It took place during the height of the bubonic plague in Europe and I had intended to expand on it but lost interest and motivation and never did

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I also took a lot of reference from Michael Kirkbride and his interpretation of what a vampire is 😅

gusty relic
rotund ferry
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Simo Häyhä is my spirit animal 😂😂

gusty relic
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It literally be like that in the bayou 😅

rotund ferry
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Yeah if you notice one little detail out of place it's already too late for you

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💀 💥 🔫

gusty relic
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I have blown mags of Avto into bushes cuz they moved funny. We ain’t playin 🤣

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I guess my name finally updated 3 days later wtf 👀

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Why is the gun emote a squirt gun!? 🤣

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When did that happen lmao

silent pond
rotund ferry
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Yeah it has

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Because guns are bad

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Discord should be 18+ with some of the stuff that floats around but apparently guns is where we draw the line

humble ridge
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Rotjaw mastery 4

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granite shard
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“Not with that girl controlling it from the shore”

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So looks like enola’s found her bestie

rotund ferry
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Is that girl possibly Gar?

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The Germanic little mermaid

red spear
granite shard
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I feel like the fact that she’s controlling rotjaw is pointing to her not being the far

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Gar even lol

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I could be wrong but yeah I think they’re not one and the same

red spear
#

The last third of the entry could maybe still hold some truth to the theory. But, it's not as strong in my mind as it was yesterday

granite shard
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The gar’s lore does include a mention of that Algiers ice

real dove
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SHall see

granite shard
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Yeah I’m curious

red spear
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This entry is also making me learn new things. I am today years old when learning Algiers is a neighborhood in New Orleans

real dove
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I still think they are one and the same

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did not know, neat

red spear
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But why an ice repair company?

real dove
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how the frick do you repair ice

granite shard
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No clue, esp since they’re doing electrical repairs it seems

red spear
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I know they needed to use modern refrigeration techniques, but I thought that was closer to the first decade of the 20th century

real dove
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wait... could this just be from before rotjaw was stolen?

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Ah nvm reread

granite shard
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I’m not sure since I think that gator is RJ

real dove
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Yeah, was just thinking it was from someone trying to get rotjaw prior to the delphine

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But on second read, doesn't sound like it

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"the Relic"

granite shard
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Gotcha

real dove
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Could be her capture tho, before they crossed with her back to this plane, when the duo were still together

rotund ferry
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I'm crushing over Gar

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She likes reptiles and is goth

silent pond
rotund ferry
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Well so is Ochenkov and I like her

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and tbh whose to say the injection doesn't actually kill every hunter and just revives them

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reviving your hunter has a lore explanation

red spear
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I wish they'd put a timestamp on that invoice to help me out

real dove
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lol

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Yeah, I had to do similar research when making the hunt dnd campaign my crew is running. do not want to consider refrigeration

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would be cool to have a time stamp

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cause I suspect this is either before rotjaw is moved, or when she is moved.

red spear
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Like, the only talk of electric refrigeration I can find is for modern homes. I can't find anything related to commercial use. And it's all dated past 1900

real dove
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but there is no mention of this guy on thhe frist ship log

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first

red spear
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Yeah, I went back to check if that Carmichael woman was in the first lore entry for the event

real dove
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I hope the lore explains

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they have power, sure

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and rotjaw has electricity

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use her as a fuelless generator

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i get that

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I gotta look at the charms, maybe one of them is the "relic"?

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i suspect it's something to do with Lynch or Chary... would think Lynch since she's come back

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but idk about the fridge connection

red spear
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The only thought I have that can tie undead gator to ice is the fact huge slabs of ice were used to preserve bodies in morgues. But that's it.... it's a stretch to say the least lol

real dove
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huh. yeah, idk. I know they would ship ice down for $$$ in sawdust traincars and shit

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extent of my knowledge

red spear
# real dove use her as a fuelless generator

Actually I could see that. If refrigeration machines relied on a lot of power or hard to obtain refrigerants it only makes sense a man who is part of a bleeding edge technological industry would see this new energy source as a money maker

real dove
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and fall prey to someone whispering in his ears

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or... something

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part of me thinks this is her origin story, how she got the metal on her

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not the delphine

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well, "origin story"

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i guess we have the actual story

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moreso this explains why she's coated in metal

red spear
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Definitely. The entry makes it sound like this Dellowit guy thought he'd be the new Edison using this supernatural gator to create a whole new source of energy

real dove
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instead they let her channel the electricity generated by rot or such

red spear
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I'm going to take a closer look at the metal on her the next time I play

real dove
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I really hope they drop her model someday

earnest jungle
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While home and consumer use of refrigeration starts to pick up in the 20th century, Meat Packers and other industries related to food production started using refrigerators during the late 19th century.

silent pond
red spear
silent pond
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Meat packers would kickstart much of refrigeration out of necessity

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It's how we got cold storage, for the most part

real dove
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Gotcha. So this dude is looking to our sweet toofy girl as a power source

red spear
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It seems that way. Because I'm sure it wasn't cheap to keep things cold artificially back then

earnest jungle
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I would assume that since Dellowit mentions the cage around Rotjaw this comes from After the Delphine returned to the land of the living and whomever experimented on Rotjaw conducted their experiments

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Perhaps the “Relic” mentioned here is the strange whispering cargo the Delphine was transporting

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Perhaps the Relic is none other than Lynch herself

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It is obvious at this point to learn Rotjaw’s story we will need both her Book of Monster Entries and the Tide if Shadows story lore

red spear
earnest jungle
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Thinking more Dellowit was on the Delphine when it traveled to the land of the dead

red spear
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Like this whole entry just smacks of greed for fame and/or fortune

earnest jungle
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I’m going to boot up the game and take a look at the story entries again

red spear
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Wait! They are on the Delphine! I didn't reread the first entry

earnest jungle
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I knew the names sounded familiar

red spear
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I think I glossed over and only looked at the crew names

real dove
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Oh shit okay cool then yeah lines up

red spear
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Oh damn, so they knew. The passengers knew all along what they were bringing into the land of the dead (the relic) and what they'd come out with

silent pond
earnest jungle
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The Delphine did not intentionally sail into the land of the dead

icy brook
#

^

earnest jungle
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They were transporting cargo and passengers when a Hurricane struck

real dove
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Unless this guy made some shit happen to get them there?

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Clearly he was after her, and knew about her

earnest jungle
#

I have noticed a pattern in the events that proceed voyages into the land of the dead: the first is a hurricane, the second is mass death.

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Enola sailed into the land of the dead after being splattered with the guts of a sailor who was killed when English ships began firing upon each other in confusion during the war of 1812

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The Delphine sailed into the land of the dead after colliding with a circus tent that was washed into the river along with its occupants and performers inside

red spear
#

Passengers: Rest unknown is sus. I'd love to see if we get another white haired cameo

earnest jungle
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Given who’s on the crew I assume they’re smugglers

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Perhaps the AHA hired the Delphine to transport some kind of occult cargo

rotund ferry
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Nice I'll add it to the list

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silent pond
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Why would the AHA hire a vessel that's transporting shit besides occult artifacts? In case things go wrong it's a hell of a lot more sus when there's a bunch of dead passengers alongside occult shit washing ashore

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Just a genuine question I have cause it doesn't make much sense to me

red spear
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At this point I'm not going to speculate anymore until I unlock the fourth BP entry which I'm hoping is tonight

rotund ferry
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The more I find out about the AHA the more I realize how much in common they have with another nefarious group of bad people in history whose name I can say

oak wraith
#

The new character has a license plate with the date 1885 as part of his armor.... the first plate wasn't issued to 1902-1903???? is he a time traveler? and if so why only go back 15-20 years

silent pond
opaque elk
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The first ever license plate to be issued was I believe in 1893 in France or some shit tho lol

real dove
#

It's a ship name plate, not a car one I'm fairly sure

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Will have to look again to be absolutely sure

earnest jungle
#

Importing guns legally is difficult

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And they’ve alienated a lot of the domestic suppliers

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Not to mention they’re bringing in Hunters from across the county and across the globe

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Some of whom will not be able to legally enter Louisiana

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Either because they’re wanted criminals or because they’re not white enough to be allowed entry into the United States because of Nativist Immigration policies

icy brook
#

Ye olde Chinese Exclusion Act

severe sleet
#

Does anyone know the story about the wolves in the bayou

hasty raven
#

You mean the wolf family or actual wolves

real dove
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If you mean the Frisks (Luna, Dire, Lonely), basically Lonely Wolf tried to kill daddy dearest and failed, running to the swamps to not get his butt kicked. Luna (mom) and Dire (dad) followed. The Devil's moon saw the addition of Frau Pertcha, and depending on dawn/dusk mode she might bring them back together or kill Lonely.

granite shard
#

I think it's also safe to assume that they came to an understanding too since cardinal rain's first entry in the BP lore mentions the wolf family, and all three had been grounded pact last event

real dove
#

Sweet! Would be really neat if they actually spelled that out and didn't make it so freaking cryptic. I was really kinda hoping that lonely would get messed up by pertcha and become the next wandering boss as a hell werewolf. But glad the family is back together. I didn't catch that they're all grounded. missing things all over ugh.

rotund ferry
granite shard
rotund ferry
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Honestly Grounded pact is cool it's just a bunch of native Americans, a family of wolves, people who want to preserve the wild and a lady from the Alps that likes to dress like a goat/germanic myth

granite shard
#

and dire wolf was locked into grounded (since BB hunters weren't in those bundles)

rotund ferry
#

Dire and Luna wolf were both Grounded locked hunters during devils moon but the lonely wolf was not

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But it's safe to assume lorewise lonely wolf is Grounded because of his connection to Perchta

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I don't know if that's canon lore though

real dove
#

Yeah, I remember pulling luna out of cold storage for that event. I just didn't know we had confirmation that he's not lonely anymore

rotund ferry
#

In my head canon the Frisk's are a happy family of murderers again

rotund ferry
real dove
#

I know lol

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Said the same somewhere up above. meant that we know for sure that Lonely is back with the fam

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I hope they confirm it then

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Be super cool if we got a WW wandering boss and the event centers around them teaming up to bring it down

rotund ferry
#

Lonely's got it in his head that he needed to be this Alpha wolf and that he needed to kill the "Alpha" of the family to achieve this

real dove
#

yarp.

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calm down child, dad can't go forever

rotund ferry
#

I can only imagine how his mother felt

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Probably heartbroken that her son felt the need to be isolated and alone

real dove
#

idk, they all seem kinda feral, though she seems the most sane from the devil moon post

rotund ferry
#

I don't think it's specified anywhere that Dire wolf abused his son or anything like that

real dove
#

Definitely seemed to want to get her son back tho

rotund ferry
real dove
#

not wrong

rotund ferry
#

Occultism, religious extremists, killers etc

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They're all pretty feral in that regard

ocean linden
rotund ferry
real dove
#

Nope! lol. I remember stuggling and giving up on trying to get people to realize dire is dad

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lol

rotund ferry
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Be cool if Leonel Frisk had a brother though

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Or a sister

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Then it'd be a spitting image of my family

real dove
#

true. wolf families are usually pretty big

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also be neat lol

rotund ferry
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Ofc my dad is like a dog that barks all the time, my mom is a grizzly you do NOT want to poke, I'm a lazy sloth and my sister is a cat that always has it's claws out

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We're a family of mixed mammals

real dove
#

I like the themed groups we're getting now, and the pacts. more fun to hunt with my buddies knowing our hunters all are buds too

rotund ferry
#

The primal pact is dope

real dove
#

agreed. I want some more wolfy guys/gals, lonely and felis are my favs, love the skulls

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it's expanded far from the OG "law, voodoo, night hunters" collective

rotund ferry
#

Primal pact is a bunch of gator men and a water lady who may or may not have the ability to control Rotjaw and other stuff from the land of the dead

real dove
#

is hornback not also primal?

rotund ferry
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Nah I don't think her and Reptilian are on good terms

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Neither was skinned and Reptilian until they ended up putting their differences aside

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So who really knows

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Hornback is not in any pact though gameplay wise but lore wise I'm not sure

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I feel like she'd be more smuggler

real dove
#

Huh, I need to note who is in what pact, didn't look hard at the primal one as I figured all the scaley folks were there

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was happy to see gunrunner and rat get some love

rotund ferry
#

Skinned, Ward, Reptile and Gar are all in Primal pact

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Gar is probably the leader of Primal pact too

real dove
#

yeah, se talks about wanting to be queen

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kinda like how enola does...

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gonna leave that really dead horse alone tho

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def think she's in charge, or at least is by the end

rotund ferry
#

I feel like Gar is essentially this water deity that has conduit control over certain entities from the land of the dead including Rotjaw

real dove
#

Dunno. I really think she is Enola, and that the OG gar drowned and got revived (kinda) by lynch, but she can't remember the 80 years spent in LotD, only some of the bits of riding Princess, teeth, being queen, etc... won't know until someone gets to the end tho. I doubt she has control over things from the land of the dead now, as I'm sure RotJaw is just as happy to kill her as she is to kill anyone else wandering around her waters. Ugh. Sorely tempted to buy it out and just unravel it all lol

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but I don't wanna speculate much more on it, until there's some actual facts n shit lol

rotund ferry
#

Her hunter description also mentions her as "Maux" so maybe her full name was "Enola Maux?" Now she simply goes by Gar now.

real dove
#

maybe? I looked it up, Enola is just "alone" spelled backwards and means solitary, and Maux means ill.

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And we've got another player/object in the ring with this "Relic"

rotund ferry
#

We do a little memery

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granite shard
#

in the first gar lore bit from the event it mentions how the reptillian is super stealthy

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but his "children" aren't and it calls out the scaled ward & the hornback

rotund ferry
#

Does it mention skinned at all?

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A part of me assumed they'd all be primal

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I don't know where I got it in my head that hornback wasn't

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Maybe someone who told me

granite shard
#

nah but he's locked into the primal pact

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so we can assume he's there too

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I think the reptilian's polycule came to an agreement to put aside the wanting to kill each other for long enough to kill rotjaw 😂

rotund ferry
#

I wonder why they want to kill Rotjaw in the first place

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I mean I get why Grounded and Lunar might want to

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And smuggler would do it for the bounty

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But Primal wanting to kill it sounds weird

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Since Gar might be controlling it

real dove
#

They want the power she has, right? I thought there whole thing wasn't killing... it was control

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from the blurb on the even page

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event

river socket
#

I figured the primals wanna kill it simply because they want to be top of the food chain

icy brook
#

^

rotund ferry
#

Well knowing my experience with bomb lances a bunch of people dressing up like aquatic predators wielding bomb lances is definitely something up there on top of the food chain

real dove
#

Do love me a bomblance

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can see the terror in their eyes as they miss with the shotgun

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delicious

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and the new frag bolt? so good.

river socket
real dove
#

it either goes really really well, or im eating mud near instantly

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i hope they give us a waxed sticky. in the actual tool it's a waxed stick. tired of getting RJ on the end of her snooter and not in her mouf

rotund ferry
#

The new bomb lance skin we got for the skinned questline is probably my favorite

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I love the red

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It pairs nicely with the Lord's prayer uppercut skin

real dove
#

same! still holding out to get the scrapbeak ones

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have a small collection of them

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looted off other hunters

rotund ferry
#

The scrapbeak one is nice too but I like the simplicity of the skinned one

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Scrapbeak one goes well with Devil's advocate hunter

real dove
#

the screw? I like the red and the hoo

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hook

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i like em both. been running the screw all this week, may not blend in well but it's too sexy to leave

rotund ferry
#

Yeah it's something's screw

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I can't remember the name but it's my go-to bomb lance skin

river socket
#

Somebody say bomb lance?

rotund ferry
#

YES

river socket
#

Mmmmmm yes

real dove
#

Nola's screw

river socket
#

Getting a direct shot with one

real dove
#

YES

river socket
#

I wish I was playing right now

real dove
#

chef's kiss

rotund ferry
real dove
#

Pretty sure Nola

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99%

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Yeah, it's Nola

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New Orleans, Louisiana Screw lol

rotund ferry
#

I think that was what the skinned's boat was called before it got wrecked

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And when he salvaged what he could he made that bomb lance

real dove
#

Gotcha. I figured it was a nod to NOLA

rotund ferry
#

It's probably what he named his boat after

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New Orleans, Louisiana

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And then in typical hunt bullshittery the boat was destroyed because everything wants to shit on Louisiana

granite shard
#

can't have shit in lousiana

foggy sundial
#

When I first fought rotjaw I was saying oh dude look it’s like lightning in the water, then I read the first chapter in the Monstrum, I’m a shrimpleton

rotund ferry
#

It's sorta like lightning I guess

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Wamasu moment

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If I had a dollar for everytime I had to fight a giant reptilian monster that can conduct electricity in a swamp I'd have $2.

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It's not a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

real dove
#

lol was running around blackwood not too long ago killing those things. I wonder if we'll see weapons and such that use a similar power...? Or a more traditional boss.

rotund ferry
#

I have yet to even start blackwood

#

Last I played elder scrolls Elsweyr just dropped and I didn't even play through that

#

I think my eso+ is still subbed too

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I haven't played in like over a year now

#

I just can't bring myself to jump back into that grind

real dove
#

Fair, they just dropped Necrom. Should cancel the ESO if not using it tho, like 150 a year down the drain. So many BB you could buy!

#

live your life tho lol

#

am the only one of my OG crew that still plays, and really only in hope someday they'll wanna pick it back up and I'll be able to throw money and gear at em to catch em up... anyway. ESO isn't hunt. Belongs in the land of Off Topic.

#

The twins only ever saw the land of the dead ruled by the Lord of the dead, right? Been looking for more mentions of it to see if it's the same area rotjaw/enola are in/from

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or rather, get a better idea of what it looks like there

red spear
# real dove The twins only ever saw the land of the dead ruled by the Lord of the dead, righ...

The Legendary hunter from the Myth of the Moors dlc has also traveled to the underworld to kill hellhounds. I don't think they're the same kind of dogs Jos and Fin fought to obtain the first weapon, but given it had fiery glowing eyes, I wonder if it was also located near the hall of fire. I've been HC'ing that the land of the dead has its own unique set of biomes and how to enter and exit each one differs.

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But my question would be can you traverse from one to another within the land of the dead and how

noble scarab
#

The land of the dead might be like a nightmare version of our world, where the sea just turns into whatever the Delphine sailed into, it’d also kinda support what we’re read about in terms of what the hunters go through when they take a clue

rotund ferry
#

That last part feels familiar

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"Just as still waters turn foul, stagnation leads to decay. Warriors must remain ever drifting."

spare mason
#

Is it safe to say that the only reason we have foreign weapons in the bayou is because of the carcass gunrunner?

strong oyster
#

Sorry is it still a theory or is it known that the captain from the diaries in the event is the same captain as the wayward helmsman? Been thinking about it as I've read more and more chapters of the event and they both kinda line up?

spare mason
rotund ferry
#

The wayward helmsman has his own entry in the story but I'm not sure if he is or isn't the captain of the Delphine

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Leaning more toward he is

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His character animation has him stumbling in like a drunken bastard, and in the first story entry of the event, the one that mentions the passenger logs exclaims that the captain is "excited about the storm" and the person talking quotes "I'd be happy too if my job was drinking in deck all morning."

#

Now evidently it could be any sailor or captain he's talking about because sailors love their liquor

strong oyster
rotund ferry
#

Yeah I'm on board with the wayward being captain of the Delphine

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But I can't really be shore of it

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But I'm glad people are seaing it my way

lunar sky
rotund ferry
#

My pun was 🥁

#

Yours was 🎺

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Needs improvement lol

lunar sky
#

Indeed

river socket
#

Gar lore. Fish lady gives me lovecraftian vibes. I need lore

silent pond
#

I want Worm Bite lore God damn it. He's so cooool and ✨ mysterious✨

Why is a fucking gravedigger still in the bayou, when he could literally relocate anywhere else.
Why is he still doing his actual job + taking extra precautions (namely putting bullets in corpses that try to get back up)?

I need to know!

upbeat kiln
#

Grave danger!

silent pond
#

Good job

gilded harness
rotund ferry
#

church bells play during his animation and he wears a small crucifix

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there's a few hunters we don't know much about

#

like Shrine maiden and what her connection with Ronin is

twilit panther
upbeat kiln
rotund ferry
#

I'd go Sekiro on some mfs

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or Tsushima

#

whichever you prefer but I like them both

#

Nioh too

#

Nioh is good

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This is like the holy trinity of Japanese themed video games

earnest jungle
#

I knew the Port Sulfur Band did a new song for the event

#

Since all their songs exist in universe what relation do y’all think this has to Rotjaw

red spear
earnest jungle
#

I would

red spear
#

There's a couple verses that are confusing or vague that I'm sure will be cleared up as more BP chapters are unlocked

red spear
#

But, I think it's the same captain he's working with when fighting Rotjaw

river socket
slow pebble
rotund ferry
#

I lack critical information

gilded harness
pearl abyss
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I do wonder a bit on the ideas of the different pacts. Like I'm with team smugglers but that's mainly because I do would wanan help save the bayou but if I could get some cash with it why not. I wonder if they have anymore deeper means then what we know already

river socket
pearl abyss
river socket
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Gator mommy ftw

river socket
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And Gar.

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There’s nothing wrong with me I promise

silent pond
river socket
silent pond
river socket
rotund ferry
river socket
rotund ferry
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I'm pretty sure some people in places like India and Africa would disagree with you there

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Fun fact: if you intentionally starve a 20ft Crocodile it will actively hunt human life and decimate an entire third world village

red spear
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I must know what happened to my precious sea cows

river socket
hasty raven
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untold ecological devestation

river socket
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New Manatee Hunter/Boss

red spear
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We'll be fighting the Sculptor till the sea cows come home! I'm sorry I'll let myself out...

red spear
# river socket New Manatee Hunter/Boss

It would be kinda cool for one of the next Tide events to bring up a hunter who is championing for the waters of the Bayou and the critters that live in it. Could have that Siren aesthetic since manatees are classified as Sirenia

earnest jungle
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Dolphins and Gators are animals, neither is good and neither is evil.

zinc depot
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dolphins are definitely evil, the fact that they're animals doesn't exclude them from all morality.

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or well, dolphins definitely have the capacity for evil, and i'm sure some are

hasty raven
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Dolphins are definitely one of the few animals capable of morality

hasty raven
red spear
hasty raven
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Whatever you're into, I guess

zinc depot
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kinda the vibe i get from gar

red spear
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I meant it as a "yes, and" to ecologist hunter. Because why not both

empty owl
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i thought we already have that

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mama maye fits the bill

rotund ferry
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I guess Beast hunter is kind of like an Ecologist

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well more so a Zoologist

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but he only studies one type of animal

icy brook
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The Researcher watching this conversation transpire

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We already have a hunter skin with his master’s degree

severe sleet
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Alright so what was wrong with the moon and why is Kevin "false saint" involved

grizzled pilot
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Everything was wrong with the moom and should be forgotten

  • Chary was doing some rituals on ppl that the moon found distasteful and made kevin aka some random kid a dark souls protagonist so he can stop Chary
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Or something like that

gentle matrix
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Hey I have a couple questions and would like some clarifications: Is the infection just Louisiana or are there other places but Louisiana is just special/more severe?

grizzled pilot
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The latter

gentle matrix
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ok thanks

granite shard
# severe sleet Alright so what was wrong with the moon and why is Kevin "false saint" involved

Mr chary was doing magical experiments on people that by and large led to them dying until Ochenkov’s widow survived (and came back wrong).

This was all in Kevin’s front yard, he was watching afraid to say anything since he was living alone (parents died) & chary was terrifying. Unfortunately chary knew he was there and was like “hey kid want to do some experimentation w me. We’re saving the bayou” so Kevin reluctantly helped out until chary was like “ok time for you to enter the magic death circle”

So Kevin enters the magic death circle and is consumed by flames, at which point the moon is like “yo, what he’s doing is literally killing me and is evil. You’re a good kid, go kill him”

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So Kevin tries killing chary, and fails, and they’re in this game of cat and mouse for a while. Eventually chary does something that leads to Kevin being filled w snakes, and pulls all but two out of him, and is abt to kill Kevin when Kevin escapes

Kevin’s then hiding in a shack like wow this sucks I hate all of this when chary sends the witch hunter, Hail Mary, and the viper after him (promised all three different things & said Kevin’s evil)

They see Kevin and are like “wow that’s a kid” but still try and kill him bc everyone trusts the AHA. Snakes show up and then they fight that & the viper does some weird shit where they take the last snake (I think one of Kevin’s snakes? It’s been a bit since I read the SM lore) and have it bite them and they’re like “Aw shit Kevin’s not evil he’s a little drowned cat and chary’s evil”

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And then they do lunar pact shit and light the bayou on fire

frank bobcat
hasty raven
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What

rotund ferry
earnest jungle
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Chapter Seven reveals the Cargo of the Delphine: Guns, Elicit Goods, and something that whispers.

frank bobcat
# hasty raven What

Dolphins are horrible, I will not link to the evidence, but content warning it's unpleasant

hasty raven
granite stump
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huh, so Finch and Chary are just directly beefing now

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I'm assuming from Chapter 9 and 10 that the tie in with the Cane shows that Finch infact ISNT responsible for Rotjaw coming, and it was infact Chary doing evil things

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and now he's trying to trick the wolf pack (all the wolf based hunters i assume) into thinking it's Finch when it wasn't?

granite shard
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Can you post screencaps?

granite stump
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i... don't think so?

rotund ferry
granite stump
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ah. if you did it i'm sure it's fin

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first two are from Chapter 10

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both times they mention a Cane very specifically

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this'll be interesting

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Finch potentially finally coming out of hiding?

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IF a Finch and Chary battle is due

granite shard
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It would be interesting to see finch get more involved

granite stump
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Finch hunter when

granite shard
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Seeing as he just kinda let chary take charge of the AHA

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And wreck it again lol

granite stump
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well I mean he got fucked up by the twins iirc

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like

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had to ditch his body and hide in the land of the dead or some shit

granite shard
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Lynch got fucked up by them

granite stump
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oh shit right Lynch

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not Finch

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wait

granite shard
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Finch took control of the AHA after the twins stuff happened since lynch killed huff

granite stump
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right yeah

granite shard
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Too many names 😂

granite stump
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got the names jumbled

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to many names similar to birds

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Lynch was the chick

granite shard
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Doesn’t help that lynch and finch sound similar

granite stump
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who made the Black serum

granite shard
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Yeah, she’s been brought up in lore again

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She’s in the land of the dead and is bringing Enola back to the world to see princess (rotjaw) again

granite stump
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ok now who's enola

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I'm only on capter 10 xD

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OH WAIT

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NEVERMIND

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just clicked once I reread princess xD

granite shard
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This patch has been huge for the lore side of things

granite stump
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oh yeah 100%

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and it's another Trio set of events

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meaning there's gonna be a LOOOOT

rotund ferry
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The lore gets a bit more confusing now

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I guess confusing is the wrong word

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Rather it is getting more complicated to follow properly

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A lot is happening and it's all splintered

granite shard
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I think the hunt lore is generally hard to follow since most of it is gated behind weapon progression

rotund ferry
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I'm confused when it says "present" day and the date is 1895 but guns like the Dolch is '96

granite shard
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It’s an interesting way of providing the info but also… pls it’s so hard to find sometimes

rotund ferry
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Not all of them easy to remember

granite stump
granite shard
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I’m trying to figure out the timeline of the moon trilogy to this latest one

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Since this is summer 1895

granite stump
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Carcass Gunrunner steals prototype weapons @rotund ferry

granite shard
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Was the moon trilogy winter/spring 1895?

granite stump
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i don't think they ever specified?

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they haven't exactly moved the date yet

granite shard
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Yeah I don’t think they did

granite stump
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they're are plans too

rotund ferry
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There's a date 1904 in Devil's moon

granite shard
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That’s not the time it happened

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The lore is presented as a later researcher compiling documents

granite stump
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somewhere 40 years into the future btw

granite shard
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That’s supposed to be like “wow, years after the moon stuff, things kinda became urban legends”

rotund ferry
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Yeah so present day 1904 looking back on documentation from 1895

granite stump
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"the hunters of this era called them grunts, we think they might have been what we consider the modern day zombie"

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ah, i love the grunt monstrum

granite stump
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wayyy further

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like

granite shard
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Prob more like either 1950s-modern day

granite stump
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1940's

rotund ferry
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So 40 yrs in the future from 1895 would be ww2

granite stump
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yep

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big giveaway is the "Hunters from this ERA"

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indicating it's been a LOOOONG TIME

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it also indicates there are still hunters too

rotund ferry
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Imagine if the researcher prospective is actually some German scientist or archeologist researching into the occult similar to how Call of duty zombies story plays out

granite stump
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which zombies we talking about

rotund ferry
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I've made subtle connections to games like resident evil and cod zombies and to hung

granite stump
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cause anything past Bo2 is god awful

rotund ferry
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I think hunt even features a cod zombies Easter egg

rotund ferry
granite stump
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the good timeline

rotund ferry
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Since those are mainly the only ones I've played

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I also played exo zombies from advanced warfare which was actually super fun but it has nothing to do with the Canon timeline of cod zombies

granite stump
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but yeah I like how hunt has done it's lore

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everything that's happened in the past and all the matches we play are like stories being told to a younger generation or something like that

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alongside the research journals from black

earnest jungle
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Trying to keep the time line straight has proven very difficult.

granite shard
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I wish they had a like lore compendium where things would be put after you unlock them in an easier to read format

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Like “read all the lore about this person”

rotund ferry
granite shard
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And also include event lore since after the event ends you have to go to the wiki to read it

granite shard
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Like it exists for a book and there is no effort from the devs to make it actually make sense or continue 😂

rotund ferry
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Zelda lore is the story equivalent to Bethesda game studio spaghetti coding

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But its still so good

granite stump
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slenderman lore is good 💀

earnest jungle
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The main problem is with trying to make the Lynch-Arc mesh with the Chary-Kevin Arc

rotund ferry
granite stump
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wasn't even that

granite shard
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I think I’d be fine saying the lynch stuff happened in 94

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And the Kevin stuff started late 94 and ended mid 95

granite stump
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nothing else

granite shard
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Then the bayou recovers for like a month or two before rotjaw

rotund ferry
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Most of ancient mythology is a very captivating subject

granite shard
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Imo it would make the most sense to push the game into 96 now, but that will prob happen by next year

granite stump
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I've heard they wanna push it up to the 1900's

granite shard
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Prob

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They seem to have a clearer idea on how they want the story to progress now

granite stump
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as the dev's said "it's been 1895 for 5 years"

granite shard
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Like in the past, it felt like a lot of disjointed ideas

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And now they’re finally bringing them all together

rotund ferry
earnest jungle
granite shard
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I know a lot of people didn’t love the moon stuff but I think it was rly important for actually pulling the greater pool of legendary hunters into the story

granite shard
granite stump
granite shard
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Like there needs to be time for the AHA to splinter after huff and for chary to gain prominence

cursive phoenix
rotund ferry
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Deep occult lore

granite shard
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And then for all of the Kevin stuff to happen

earnest jungle
rotund ferry
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Really wish we had a standalone monster hunter hunt themed game

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Like imagine how cool that would be if we had a Witcher 3 styled hunt game

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Simply a hunter doing hunter things

earnest jungle
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Actually no it is outright impossible for Huff to have died any time prior to the Summer of 1895

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Because Huff was alive when William Salter escaped for the second time in the spring/summer of 1895.

granite shard
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Just make rotjaw enter the bayou in 96

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Idk why timelines seem to be the hardest things for games to figure out

granite stump
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what if we are in the winter time NOW?

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during rotjaw

granite shard
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I don’t think it would work

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Bc you still need huff dying -> chary’s rise to prominence-> little Kevin Linus’s big adventure

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Like at earliest I could see this working it would be jan 96

earnest jungle
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Hurricane Season starts in Autumn according to the Russel Chambers lore

granite shard
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I’m also curious to see the timeline for desalle falling

earnest jungle
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But unfortunately the Russel Chambers Lore and the Voelkel Lore tell us the Lynch-Twins show down also happened in the Autumn

earnest jungle
granite shard
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Okay, so then I wonder abt Lulu’s lore since it had her and Sofia tearing up desalle and it seemed inhabited still then

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Like I would assume it would be closer to 95 since they also joined the hunt

earnest jungle
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The Vetterli lore indicates that DeSalle fell the same year a Blizzard hit Louisiana

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The only blizzard that hit Louisiana in the 19th century was in February of 1894

granite shard
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It’s possible that there could be one that hit later on since it’s not a one historical relation

granite stump
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iirc they are working on a snow map

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or something along those lines

granite shard
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I don’t think they said snow specifically but yeah I think the implication is there

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Desalle as a map visually is so funny to me bc like… that’s not Louisiana

granite stump
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hushhh

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it is

granite shard
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Lmao

red spear
red spear
granite stump
keen moss
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Interesting. Kind of a bummer that the game is set in 95. Would be great for a potential snow map. So close😋

granite stump
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plus they intend on having the date change soon

red spear
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I'll have to reread the Chambers lore, because hurricanes can definitely happen in Autumn, but the start of hurricane season is June 1st

keen moss
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Yeah, I didn’t hear anything specific either, but David mentioned they are working on a new biome that is NOT set in Louisiana though

granite stump
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which also indicates in the lore that The Sculptor is spreading

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rapidly

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if in only 12 month's it's spread across god knows how much of Louisiana and into a NEW STATE

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or the more likely scenario

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The Sculptor found another pocket of influence it could use in another state

keen moss
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If it’s not a snow biome, any ideas what other possibilities it could be?

granite stump
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well we already have forest/swampy biome

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then good ole' fashion western biome

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Industrialized?

keen moss
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Mountain mine city?

granite stump
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it's either gonna be a city esque biome or snowy

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cause I don't think they'll do any deep forests

keen moss
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What about a dockyard? That would be cool. Something with a lot of elevation and maybe some ships we could board?

granite stump
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too small

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dockyards aren't really that big

red spear
keen moss
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It could be a big one haha

granite stump
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plus it'd be to linear and... not very distinctive?

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if the entire map was a port that is

keen moss
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Or perhaps not just a dockyard but the whole city, lighthouse included with a little bay where docks stretch from either end

granite stump
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if there was a segment that was a city port then THAT'D be interesting

red spear
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Even if they do stay within the context of New Orleans or an urban setting, you can play up the biome representing winter with the way the vegetation looks

keen moss
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I’m imagining something like the Italian coast with steep cliffs so it wouldn’t be flat, but set into mountainside almost with docks stretching outward

granite stump
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that's for sure

red spear
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This would be super cool

keen moss
granite stump
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which america has very few of

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especially not around Louisiana

keen moss
red spear
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I'd hope if they introduce snow it's a wildcard that can affect all of the maps

granite stump
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I figure the maps probably gonna have a more green focus

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like the new England territories

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vermont, new york, new hampshire ETC ETC

earnest jungle
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Returning to fall of DeSalle. The basic timeline seems to be: things start to go to shit in the Spring of 1894 and deteriorate over the summer. Despite this people largely ignore the outbreak.

Then in August of 1894 a riot breaks out in Pelican Prison and the rioters successfully take over the prison and begin executing the guards.

Despite the efforts of Hawkshaw jack the experiments conducted in Pelican Island Prison become public knowledge.

This lore further confirms that Huff could not have been killed in the Summer of 1894 because Jabez, the warden of Pelican Island Prison, writes to Huff in August of 1894

keen moss
granite stump
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i... don't think they wanna delve into that territory of occult xD

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i'm fairly certain they've purposefully steered well and clear of ghosts

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though it does sound interesting

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aside from the whole Kevin's mother waking his ass up thing

earnest jungle
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Based on everything I’ve read the Devil’s Moon Trilogy either took place entirely within the last four months of 1895 or took place over the course of 1896.

red spear
keen moss
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I’m imaging haunted wails as I enter the compound

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Are ghosts even player interactable or just cosmetic and used for the locking doors and shifting corridors mechanic?

wraith cove
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So is the fang shearer mentioned in any of the event chapters or whats his deal

restive patrol
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So just noticed the drilling is basically just a copy and paste of the Luftwaffe Drilling, just with the barrels switched out for the rifle rounds and underbarrel shotgun. The least Crytek could have done was change the markings on the top strap (https://youtu.be/ANdKiodm5W0?t=627), as it has the exact same caliber marking of "9.3x74mmr", a round not developed until 1900. It also contradicts the rounds' head stamps, clearly seen as 40-60 WCF. I am curious though how they will describe its origins in the Book of Weapons when the event is over or will they opt for a generic explanation of the archetype of "combination guns", similar to how most of the melee weapon entries are.

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real dove
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I'm behind on reading over this.... Chary is back? he would be hiding out in the land of the dead

rotund ferry
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The one we have in the actual game is vice versa

granite stump
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M30 drillings where 2 12 gauge barrels + a high caliber lower barrel

granite stump
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now chary is trying to get the wolf pack (group of hunters) to kill the current AHA leader Finch

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by saying he was the one who let Rotjaw out

real dove
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Ahhhh

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Gross. Hope they don't turn