lore-discussion

[opal garnet]

Does second one have gator skin on his hands?

[opal garnet]

As in freakish deformity

Not some elaborate gloves

Yep, same on his chest

[noble scarab]

It’s scarring. I know there is a tribe in Africa that practices that type of ritual scarring, just not sure which one it is

[opal garnet]

Ridiculous

This is obviously Killer Croc style skin condition

It's hunters we are dealing with after all

[regal trout]

Isn't it a Caiman?

Er hmm

Guess they don't have snoots that skinny

[real dove]

nah, snoot still too skinny

[regal trout]

Yee

[real dove]

my guess is a Gharial

[regal trout]

I don't know enough about my gators

Also yeah on his arms it definitely looks like ritualistic scarring, a pretty common practice in a lot of cultures

On the hooded hunter

[cold wind]

its a borzoi

[regal trout]

Pfft

[real dove]

LOL

lemmedoitforyouuuuuuu

[cold wind]

the great borzoi hunters of louisiana

[real dove]

Yeah, i think that's african? or maybe I'm thinking of Wakanda lad

[real dove]

for sure

[regal trout]

As that one guy mentioned

Gharial is definitely the culprit

[real dove]

i think there are others with that kind of long ass snoot, but that was the first to crop up when i googled it

[regal trout]

Aye

[real dove]

be cool if we got a collection of folks wearing gators/crocs from all over

could do a caiman kinda south american guy wearing the head like mountain man and his bear

[regal trout]

I'm curious how they got in contact with the reptilian

[real dove]

may be too close to the reptilian tho

same

[regal trout]

Like, if it was before or after he lost his marbles

[real dove]

Clearly he's taken one of them under his wing

tail?

[regal trout]

Maybe they went to hunt gators elsewhere

Gharials are native to India I think

[edgy aspen]

Or two under his wing? Two of the upcoming Hunters you can see in the Test servers reference Reptilian as a mentor?

[real dove]

ooh, didn't know that

[edgy aspen]

One as the son of a previous mentor?

[real dove]

interesting

[regal trout]

The one Reptilian killed?

[edgy aspen]

Yeah, the questline Hunter Killian Ward is the son, the female in red gator skin and the other questline Hunter I believe both reference Reptiallian as a mentor.

[regal trout]

Hmm

I wonder how they're gonna explain the (rumored) gator boss since canonically all the gators fled

Which is what drove Reptilian insane in the first place

[real dove]

keith is wrapped up in the middle of the next stuff... wonder if we are going to get "packs" with gators being 1, the wolves being another...

they had stuff with mama wolf and pertcha in the last event that didn't seem to come to a close

[regal trout]

Momma and brother wolf are just here to hunt Lonely Howl since he's off his rocker right

[edgy aspen]

I suppose an option is the gator boss lured or summoned away the gators and one of the wildcard effects both a new boss and new AI. Like gators quietly lurking close to water and attack us bush wookies. 😉

Yeah, that's the wolf trio.

[real dove]

undead gator summoned forth by gator boy... then give us a werewolf (there is a actual legend about a werewolf in louisiana) as the next roamer

be cool to track him with howling

but I'd like to see another water enemy besides the butthole ticklers... and gators make such a cool hissing sound... would be pant-ending to be crouching in some reeds and then just hear that next to you

sorry, this isn't really much of a lore discussion hm

[untold blaze]

It’s good, its interesting to read after the fact

[rotund ferry]

It's a form of scarification through branding that tribes like the Dinka utilize as a form of clan identification. Other times it's used to measure a period in someone's life or just as beautification.

In this case it's probably used for clan identification

[regal trout]

Maybe a tally count?

Scarring after every successful hunt

[rotund ferry]

Yeah they're most definitely croc & gator hunters like Keith

So it could be tallys

Kinda like Killmonger from Black Panther

https://tenor.com/view/michael-b-jordan-stare-wakanda-forever-gif-11864516

Each scar represents a kill

[flat elk]

https://tenor.com/view/crocodile-stealthy-sneaky-stealth-sneak-gif-21311525

[clear mortar]

So can someone explain the revenant and infected hunters?

[empty owl]

the revenant was brought back from the dead by doctor john and was previously known as the bad hand. The infected is a hunter that is as the name suggest infected with the plague, but he somehow manages to survive and thrive or is in a state of constant pain

the infected is possibly on the early onset of turning into a grunt

[opal garnet]

Revenant is some voodoo zombie unrelated to bayo's grunts

Infected guy is just that, infected

Judging by Orville's adventures, hunters are very much susceptible to zombie bites and such

His problem is that he is turning into zombie slooooowly

Well, into bayo grunt

[noble scarab]

The infected tried to stave off the infection with binding rituals and by tying off infected limbs

[lunar sky]

Well so does that mean it’s lore accurate to have people shooting all the time in the bayou to not get bit?

[untold blaze]

I feel like an additional threat with zombie bites besides the obvious voodoo infection, and despite hunters increased resistance to disease, would be well, disease

[rotund ferry]

So I guess the revenant is technically immune to the infection because he's already a voodoo zombie

[untold blaze]

Yeah

But that doesn’t make him immune to bodily trauma

[rotund ferry]

The infected appears to be turning into a grunt very slowly but it could be that the infection is actually the only thing keeping him alive but he is in a constant state of pain because of it

At that point I'd say just kill me because living like that wouldn't really be living at all

The infected must still have unfinished business in the Bayou

I know he can also pop limbs back into place so that's nifty

[untold blaze]

I imagine he’s in sort of a state of necrosis where only really the fringes of where it’s decayed hurt and that’s gotta be more of an ache

Cause I’ve had part of my knee necrotise before, and for a bit it actually has feeling

But a week or so in you can’t feel shit, so he can’t feel his blackened arm at least, and it’s a miracle he can wiggle it’s fingers, due to probably severe nerve and tissue damage

[rotund ferry]

Yeah being undead is fucking wild

Better pull out Dawnbreaker because a new hand touches the beacon

[lavish mist]

azura, let my chimer go!

[tired spear]

@spiral lynx looking forward to your explanation

unless..... you're not gonna do it in DMs, are you?

[spiral lynx]

a broom is a destiny lies for those who dare disturb the will of the #off-topic

[austere hearth]

I thinks off topic was out of topic, but its official

[spiral lynx]

it is an official out of topic

[neat juniper]

It's so off-topic that you can't use hunt word there

[neat juniper]

Anyway, where exactly did you read about cabal?

[tired spear]

i suppose it's something within the french translation of the hunt store description

[neat juniper]

Ye that really sounds like it

That's why i am asking to clarify

[tired spear]

actually i looked up the french steam store page and didn't see anything such

so i'm back to being confused x)

[austere hearth]

I have use the IA for more information ... but i dont exactly this therm "The cabal"

Find *

[tired spear]

the AI? which AI?

ChatGPT?

[austere hearth]

Yes

[tired spear]

oh that's why

the info in there is inaccurate

[austere hearth]

I try to find exactly thé history of the game

[tired spear]

it has no access to the internet

this channel here is the best place to learn lore

[neat juniper]

Basically america in 1890's, big eldritch enemy invades our world
Cowboys fight it

[austere hearth]

Thats why im here for know more

[tired spear]

I'd suggest you read the journal of william salters, which you can find in the pins

it's a great place to start imo

I'd also recommend HazmatTV's videos but they're in english and his voice is not the easiest to understand for non-english folk

[austere hearth]

You have a like for me of Hazmaz i can find more information and try to understand more.

It seeem thats how you become better

[tired spear]

this document sums up basically everything known afaik

[austere hearth]

Wow

A beautifull doc

[neat juniper]

Indeed

[austere hearth]

Thanks you very much 💪

Where are you from ?

[rancid jewel]

Oh yeah Hazmat is the goat

[upbeat kiln]

I never thought of that haha Maybe I should get Microsoft Sam to narrate it instead? 😄

[rancid jewel]

microsoft sam bayou roflcopter

[tired spear]

Lmfao

antoinefromafar happy noises

[clear mortar]

If an alligator boss does come to the game how do yous think it will be explain lore wise ?

[silver yacht]

Props something along the lines of the Reptilian brought one to the bayou because man is dumb, and then the sculptur decide that it was free real estate. idk

[granite shard]

could also be like the spider

not an actual gator but a bunch of people made into one

[icy brook]

That would be horrifying yet highly fitting for Hunt

And wouldn’t need water in the boss lair to make sense

[opal garnet]

He probably brought it to impress his new gf

[cyan zealot]

Do we know if the gator boss is gonna be the wild bounty

[opal garnet]

We know nothing until it releases

Only that it's probably going to be an alligator

[cyan zealot]

Okay

[tired spear]

have you seen the concept that was posted a while back in the fanart channel, with a gator merged with water devils? that'd be cool, and not too difficult to explain lore-wise

#fanart message

this one

[granite shard]

Oooh I hadn’t

That’s sick

[opal garnet]

Looks cool

But I bet reptilian's gf could take him

[clear mortar]

That gator water devil mix is cool asf

[upbeat kiln]

omg that is amazing!

[clear mortar]

I gotta quick question so whats the story behind like the different pacts?? And y are certain legendary hunters part of them

[granite shard]

so a basic summary is:
infernal pact: "yes mr chary is cool and right and we should commit human sacrifice and do occult things because it either makes us money, furthers our own goals, or we just like killing people"
lunar pact: "we have to stop mr chary at any cost, he's killing the moon and that will lead to bad things. if we burn this stuff in the bayou it will weaken chary enough for us to kill him"
grounded pact: "what the fuck are both of you doing? you, stop murdering people. you, stop burning the bayou this is literally going to be an ecological & anthropological disaster. what on earth is wrong with the both of you????"

[clear mortar]

Awesome

Thank you

[granite shard]

there had been bundles of the DLC hunters that showed what pacts they were in, and then during the event there were other hunters that were locked into different pacts

[clear mortar]

Are there still some hunters not in any pacts??

[granite shard]

off the top of my head
infernal: skinflint, devil's advocate, ochenkov's widow, the pinkertons, llorona's heir, the rat, night seer, night acolyte, the researcher (he's the one I'm most confused abt for being infernal)
lunar: lulu, sofia, prodigal daughter, false saint, redneck, sergeant bridgewater, the kid, the concubine, the witch hunter, weird sister, bone doctor, the prescient, we can assume hail mary & the viper from the lore
grounded: the archeologist, frau perchta, lonely howl, luna wolf, dire wolf, carcass gunrunner, phantom, third son, wayfinder, teche wraith, monroe, billy story, black coat (both billy and black coat are technically dead at this point in the lore tho, sofia killed billy in the scottfield precision lore and black coat was killed by the twins)

I think all of the hunters are tied to pacts technically, though the newcomers aren't

[misty sigil]

Grounded pact is the faction for outsiders in general. Hunters that just keep on hunting like before.

[granite shard]

we can assume the blood bond & event hunters were involved in pacts but they weren't in any bundles so we don't know exactly where they belong

[clear mortar]

Wait is turncoat in a pact?

[granite shard]

oh yeah he's grounded

the frau perchta trailer showed silhouettes of everyone in the grounded pact I think

[rotund ferry]

Well anyone who wasn't already Inferno or Lunar

[granite shard]

there's also the fact that people were tied up to frau perchta that got them involved w grounded

[rotund ferry]

But seeing as how broken the Grounded pact perks were I think its safe to say that if certain hunters weren't pre-pledged that every player would've picked Grounded 😂

[granite shard]

there was a lore bit on the site that was abt luna & dire wolf going to frau perchta bc she would help them either reconnect or kill lonely howl

[rotund ferry]

Well in pagan myth Frau Perchta is a witch

Sometimes witches and necromancy is a thing

https://tenor.com/view/undertaker-still-alive-back-from-the-dead-gif-14592821

[clear mortar]

There's so much cool stuff I missed with this game

I only got into it recently

[granite shard]

yeah I love the lore lol

and I think it's nice to have the pacts bc now we get to see another common line between the hunters

just remembered that north star and sovereign are both infernal, which was another one I wasn't expecting

I was thinking either grounded or lunar for them before seeing the bundles

(dead blessing and zhong kui are lunar)

[clear mortar]

Yous think if billy and black coat are both technically dead they will add like undead skins for them ??

Kinda like a reverse revenant/redhead

*redhand

[granite shard]

I’m not sure, it could be neat tho

[clear mortar]

This games lore is kinda wild tho

[granite shard]

very

I really like the direction they've gone with the lore for lulu and sofia and hope to see more hunters getting continuations to their lore in the book of weapons (lulu & sofia had a first batch of lore in the scottfield variants, and then they've gotten some again in the lemat carbine/martini henry ironside stuff that followed up on what happened in the scottfield lore)

[clear mortar]

I hope worm bite has good lore

Like I things they're going for a grave digger vibe with him that I like alot

[cold wind]

yee i like his drip too, somethin y would actually wear in a dirty swamp

[opal garnet]

I don't think that Billy which was killed by Sophia and Lulu was Billy Story

[untold blaze]

I agree

I like their lore, it’s wholesome and makes me happy

[granite shard]

idk man, I don't think they'd use a name of a legendary hunter like that without anything making them fully distinct. By just having "Billy" and it happening in the middle of a hunt, I think the implication is that it's supposed to be billy story

[granite shard]

idk abt wholesome but it is the sapphic love story I require in my life. them seducing a nun by killing a man in front of her is iconic

[icy brook]

Super epic, do you have a source my man?

[rotund ferry]

@icy brook got it from this guy

[untold blaze]

I agree wholeheartedly, I absolutely love sapphic love stories as well. And they seduced a nun by icing a dude?

[granite shard]

YES it’s amazing

[untold blaze]

That’s absolutely fucked but I love it

Also, isn’t that nun chick the same like, Nun hunter we’ve got?

Cause she was seen in her trailer with a LeMat, and the lovers gave her a LeMat

[edgy aspen]

The story above, where did this come from? Who is the other woman, Lulu?
Shootout at DeSalle is Lulu killing the harrasser?

[untold blaze]

To answer in order, I don’t know, yes and probably

[clear mortar]

Been grinding hunt all day

[granite shard]

The nun in this is different from the nun hunter. That’s Mary Burgess and this is Sophie-Angeline

[clear mortar]

My man Turncoat doin me well

But probs gonna drop him for worm bite

[granite shard]

The other woman is lulu, yeah, and the shootout is from the scottfield, I think swift, lore. Her and Sofia killed a bunch of people in desalle

[clear mortar]

Y did they kill them?

What they do

[granite shard]

Lulu is just kinda into violence whereas sofia is doing a ritual murder thing

(The murder near the saloon referenced is how lulu and Sofia met. They beat a man to death with his scottfield brawler while lulu was internally monologuing abt how cute sofia is)

[clear mortar]

Very cool

Also I read the description of a crossbow skin that talked about other worldly snakes yous think that could be something they add??

[edgy aspen]

There are multiple references to snakes in Lynch's.

[untold blaze]

So their basically batshit crazy lesbians

[granite shard]

Yes exactly

Girlbosses

[edgy aspen]

Where else do I find any lore on Sofia?

[untold blaze]

Indeed

[untold blaze]

I second this, like, is there a reason she’s batshit crazy?

[granite shard]

Yeah, the DLC page for her has her background!

[untold blaze]

That’s badass, thank you

[granite shard]

No prob!

[rotund ferry]

gaslighting girlbosses

[tired spear]

"unnaturally orange face framed by sickly blonde hair"
I. Um. Uuuh - that reminds me of someone 👀 💦

[visual finch]

[oak crag]

I saw this upcoming legendary skin, and the description got me curious. The other two new legendaries (fire bomb and romero) are clear references to existing hunters. But who, or what, might this one be referring to?

Maybe Scaramuccia? He is certainly eccentric, and the style (although not the color) fits him. It could also be about an upcoming hunter (not yet revealed) or the whole gator thing ("...stranger things would wash to shore.")

Any thoughts on this? I could be way overthinking it, I'm new to the game and especially the lore, so I'm sure I'm missing something here.

[opal garnet]

Some legendary weapons aren't related to any legendary hunters

[oak crag]

I am aware, but the other two that they showcased are, so I figured there's a pattern

[granite shard]

there's absolutely no resemblance to any politician or public figure there

totally not

[real dove]

how big are the hands?

[granite shard]

small

[real dove]

🤔

[granite shard]

[earnest jungle]

No that would be Mary Burgess

And I realized someone already pointed that out sorry

They’re not the only lesbian couple either Jos and Alison were also a couple though we haven’t heard much about them lately

[rotund ferry]

18 naked Cowgirls in the showers at Ram Ranch!

[untold blaze]

No need to apologize my dude, we’re all human here, so it’s natural to make mistakes

[untold blaze]

Who’s Jos and Alison?

[earnest jungle]

Jos is the twin sister of Fina and the daughter of the Black Coat who murdered their mother upon their birth, and murdered their uncle when he came back to finish the job and kill them.

The Twins were then recruited into the AHA by a hunter named Lynch.

Lynch is a complicated figure whom we both know a lot about and very little about.

[rotund ferry]

More victims of Lynch's unrestricted degeneracy

[earnest jungle]

We know who Lynch is: a sadistic amoral hinter with a personal grudge against the Sculptor (the creator of all the monsters in the bayou) But what she is that we can only guess at.

[rotund ferry]

Lynch do not put infectious parasitic insects into that masonry jar

[untold blaze]

Wait, Lynch invented the hive bomb?

[earnest jungle]

Yep

[untold blaze]

Oh god, what did she do to them

[rotund ferry]

Whether she invented it or not isn't for me to say but she did have a fondness of putting things in jars

[rotund ferry]

She put them into a jar

[granite shard]

https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Bad_As_They_Seem

[untold blaze]

Did she do anything major besides that and recruit the twins?

[granite shard]

this is the story the info on them is from

[rotund ferry]

Not that I know of no

[granite shard]

lynch killed huff

[untold blaze]

Hot damn

[granite shard]

I think she recruited the phantom but I'm not 100% on that

[earnest jungle]

The Short version is she planned to use them as human sacrifices for a ritual that would have allowed her to take on the Sculptor One on One. But a giant snake spirit and the God of the Dead himself tipped them off to Lynch’s plan and so they killed and/or banished her from our realm.

[untold blaze]

Lynch would’ve whiffed the 1v1 if she whiffed fighting two siblings tbh

[earnest jungle]

Oh and the sanke typed them off by swallowing and then regurgitating Fina causing snake scales to break out all over her skinZ

[rotund ferry]

I try to learn as little as possible about the individual known as Lynch because when I do I'm usually met with utter disgust and disappointment

[granite shard]

I think lynch is really interesting

what's also interesting about her too is that basically all we know comes from the in game author hayden collins

[earnest jungle]

Oh she also single handled triggered the faction war that had utterly gutted the AHA.

[untold blaze]

So what your saying is that Lynch is basically just something sent from somewhere else to fuck over the Sculptor and the other gods of the bayou ain’t happy about it

[granite shard]

so we're kinda left to wonder how much is fictionalized and how much is real

[untold blaze]

Jesus, how in the fresh hell did she manage that?

[granite shard]

killed huff

[untold blaze]

Oh yeah

[earnest jungle]

She had Philip Huff Jones murdered by a twitch streamer

[granite shard]

I'd be interested to see her come back in the upcoming lore trilogy

[untold blaze]

I don’t get how that causes various cults and book thumpers to aggroe against each other

[granite shard]

I think it's bc the AHA was already really loosely tied together

and huff had been holding it all together, and then suddenly a power vacuum emerged with his death

[untold blaze]

Oooooh

[granite shard]

so mr chary was able to step into that and start manipulating things

[earnest jungle]

This is the man believed to have killed Huff on Lynch’s orders.

[granite shard]

bad as they seem has her directly killing huff (huffington=huff)

[untold blaze]

God, lore for this game gets weirder and weirder the more I check

[granite shard]

so it could be her either setting up that dude as a fall guy or the fictionalization of the story in lore

[untold blaze]

Who’s Nellie?

[earnest jungle]

Bad as They Seem should be understood as a fictionalized of real events. With certain details embellished for dramatic story telling.

[granite shard]

agreed, but I think it's still entirely possible that she still was the one to kill him and set up another to take the blame

[earnest jungle]

Nellie was a patient of Doctor Huff who was a candidate for his personal army of mentally ill patients whose conditions have been exasperated by the corruption.

Most of this Army was wiped out in a sniper attack by Victor Caldwell who was either alienated from Huff’s cause within minutes of first meeting the man, or who was against Huff from the start.

[untold blaze]

what the fuck

[granite shard]

and she later on stole the weapon lynch was looking for from her. I think there's an implication in bats that she's becoming a hive, or in some way corrupted by the sculptor

[untold blaze]

I hope we see Nellie as a hunter eventually

[granite shard]

I'd like to see any of these guys as hunters 😂

[untold blaze]

Likewise

[granite shard]

alison is the one I'm most interested in seeing a hunter model for in a pure design standpoint, since she's supposed to be pretty fucked up looking

[untold blaze]

I’ve got to get to class, talk to y’all later!

[granite shard]

have fun!

[earnest jungle]

Yeah Huff is a real piece of shit, in 1874 the real Philip Huff Jones was a member of the White League and participated in a white supremacists insurrection against the Reconstruction Era Government.

And the Armored Entries confirm that Black Hunters face discrimination in the awarding of Contracts.

[granite shard]

the lore for dead blessing (I think her at least) mentions the anti-chinese discrimination at the time as well

I really enjoy hunt's acknowledgement of the discrimination at the time

[rotund ferry]

It's ironic that the worst people in the world are also the most interesting

I wonder if there's a word for that

[real dove]

Probably a german one

lol

[rotund ferry]

What makes you say that?

I mean it's true there's a lot of rather lengthy German words but why German specifically?

[real dove]

they do a neat thing where they take whole phrases and combine them into single words

wasn't even looking at history with that one, had a tour guide explain it a few months ago. it's proabably something that translates to "terrible interesting people" for us, but spoken as one word to them

Schadenfreude is pleasure at someone else's pain (be a cool gun name) so surely there is a word for the interest humans have for the villains of our stories

[rotund ferry]

Yeah that's how you get words like
Streichholzschächtelchen

Or
Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragunsgesetz

Ich spreche Deutsch Ja!

German is such a beautiful language

The other day I learned how to spell Capybara

Wasserschwein

Wasserschwein chillest animal in the world

[rotund ferry]

Yes there's a similar set of rules in Japanese where singular Kanji can mean a phrase or entire sentence

One of my favorite in German though is Waldeinsamkeit

Which translates to "the feeling of being alone in the woods" or "woodland solitude"

[real dove]

Word that's super cool. I just found it super interesting talking to him about the different cool parts of that language. We may have y'all in the American South but y'all took words smashing to a whole another level lol

Is that water pig?

[opal garnet]

Considering he just stood and let them kill him, he wasn't there to kill twins

[real dove]

Are there other 'demigods' outside of Fina, Lynch, Chary, and Kevin? Technically they all live die live die repeat, but was curious if there were others with powers way past the normal hunter

[rotund ferry]

Revenant probably

Dr. John is definitely hiding some kind of ultra voodoo instinct power

Frau Perchta too

Not sure if the trailer is anything to go off of but she seems to be able to raise other hunters from the dead like Dr. John and the Moon and Sculptor

[real dove]

Hm, I figured she just really liked decorating trees. I had revvy down, but he doesn't seem special outside of his restoration of life. Makes sense for John to have some special powers, since he may have kicked this whole thing off... Just curious since we have literally dodge a bullet Chary and lynch definitely has some whack powers in reserve

[untold blaze]

Wait, so how in tarnation was Victor Caldwell able to just Chris Kyle an army of the mentally Ill?

[earnest jungle]

Supernatural shenanigans of some kind

A Hunter by the name of Cotozee rushed the snipper nest only to find an armored inside and Caldwell gone

[untold blaze]

Is this in like a lore article? Because that sounds awesome

And if so, then please give it to me my friend

[empty owl]

it is

its under the sparks sniper article. I'm not entirely sure which one is the part that leander's featured in but it should be under the vetterli lore

come to think of it, i think the handcannon that caused huff's army and huff himself to be injured sounds like something that VC would do to weaken huff's posse

considering what happened to them once he finally arrived in louisiana

[clear mortar]

Is there any steel eyed lore ?

[untold blaze]

Wait, so was Victor Caldwell just raging a one man guerrilla warfare thing against huff?

[noble scarab]

At one point VC sent them a sabotaged batch of chain conversion pistols that did a number on the AHA, not sure if it was the insane posse tho

[empty owl]

apparently so, to what end we don't know

[untold blaze]

Dudes an absolute badass

[empty owl]

funny thing is, he was never caught

he just vanished

[vernal stag]

No solid lore, but the style of glasses is supposed to be "civil war sniper" glasses, but from what I've read, it's an urban legend and marksmen in the civil war didn't actually wear those. Plus his name is steel eyed, so I guess the idea is that he's a war vet sniper.

[empty owl]

there's also somebody named red in one of the newer lore pages

could be him?

[clear mortar]

Gotta love steel eyed

[opal garnet]

This "army" was like 11 people who never even held guns before

[opal garnet]

You mean steel eyes the spyglass?

[granite shard]

the legendary hunter from twitch drops from like a year ago

[untold blaze]

Fair, but still, eleven folks with guns is enough to kick someone’s ass

[real dove]

idk, maybe not if they have my aiming skills lol

[opal garnet]

He was sniping them

[clear mortar]

Nah the cool hunter guy

[untold blaze]

Like, actual long distance sniping

Or Vertelli Deadeye from a hundred feet away sniping

[earnest jungle]

Yeah Red is dead Felis killed him and stuffed his body into a hollowed out tree presumably after relapsing.

[earnest jungle]

Long distance sniper attack with a Sparks Sniper.

[untold blaze]

Holy shit

[clear mortar]

Wonder if worm bite owns or worked at the undertakers in Desalle

[untold blaze]

I feel bad for him

Dude just wanted to be friends with Felis and got murked, and stuffed into a tree for it

[rotund ferry]

Red is dead?!

https://tenor.com/view/red-dead-redemption-rdr2-rdr-john-marston-gif-23340984

[opal garnet]

When did the cowboy folk move on from single action revolvers?

Game is set in around 1895

[rotund ferry]

Outlaws and Cowboys started using double actions around 1877. Same time Colt started producing double actions and by early 20th century they completely replaced single actions

1895 is when semi automatic pistols started becoming more popular

[icy brook]

Single action pistols were popular well into the 1920s and 30s because they were so cheap, familiar to the public, easy to work on, and accurate

[rotund ferry]

Fastest easiest manufacturing in the west!

[opal garnet]

Whatever does accurate mean

What makes a gun inaccurate

I doubt that gun that shoots backwards would get manufactured

[icy brook]

Single action triggers are superior to double action, even when a double action is on full cock

Generally speaking

[rotund ferry]

Shoot an AR15 at a target that's more than 400 meters and then do the same with an AK47.
That's what makes a gun inaccurate.

[neat juniper]

Any gun can shoot backwards if you fuck up enough

[loud steeple]

How much deviation it has when you fire it. Factors such as rifling, barrel length, caliber, and trigger pull strength can all affect accuracy

The main reason double actions are seen as inferior accuracy wise is due to the extra trigger pull strength because you’re cocking back the hammer and releasing it each time you pull the trigger instead of just releasing it such as on a single action

[buoyant peak]

ill strongly disagree with all the shittalk on double action triggers

if you cant hit your target with a double action trigger that is most likely a personal skill issue and you need more trigger time

or you are the cheap/stupid and picked up garbage like a nagant

[loud steeple]

The characters lore wise are in life or death fights and trying to pop off rounds as fast as possible

Regardless of single shot accuracy your hand would get fatigued from prolonged use of an old da revolver which would probably affect accuracy

[buoyant peak]

either way someone tries to slice it there is a reason armies went with double action when it was available, double action triggers just make better martial revolver

[clear mortar]

I can't remember if I asked before but is there any lore for the infected ???

[opal garnet]

Don't talk shit about nagant

It was so good they had to nerf it for plebs

This why you now have two versions of it in hunt

[buoyant peak]

im talking about the actual nagant

the nagant has a garbage trigger since the russian govt was being stupid during procurement

[opal garnet]

I too am talking about actual nagant

[buoyant peak]

yeah actual nagant is bad

gateloading, convuluted, horid trigger

its just bad

[opal garnet]

What's wrong with gateloading?

How is it convuluted?

And trigger's only problem is that it's hard to pull by baby hands

[opal garnet]

😮‍💨

It was made for russian army to replace S&W model 3 aka Scottfield

They decided to go with gate loading because top break revolvers were considered less reliable

Plus it was impossible to make top-break revolvers gas sealed

It's "convuluted" construction is actually very simple and famously doesn't require high maintenance

It being gas-sealed makes it more reliable, you can clear barrel from dirt by firing a shot (You shouldn't do this though)

It's weakest part was the spring, but only because it was designed to take like 3000 shots

But it too didn't require high maintenance, unless you were firing those 3000 shots you shouldn't worry about it losing tension

There are also a few interesting facts about it

At the time of hunt, bullet cases for it was made really thick, so they didn't blow out of proportion when shot

And they were heavy, so you could just spin the cylinder afterwards and they would fall out on their own

That is not the case for soviet ammunition, those are thin and require you to use that ejector rod

Another fact is that it's gas-sealed system made it possible for it to be fired out of pocket without burning your hand, something widely used by criminal elements

So it's safe to assume that hunters use that widely

All in all, it's "convuluted" system made it actually more accurate

[buoyant peak]

The gas seal as far as i remember was to push extra velocity out of it first and foremost, this is an interesting feature but it is made heavier, more complex, and has a famously horid trigger pull because of the gas seal system. There is a reason the thing wasnt exactly copied. Also gateloading is clunky and slow especially since the ejection rod is as it is. Swing out cylinders are just more user friendly hence why you see modern revolver being primarily swing out. Also the trigger being as heavy, long, and clunky as it is, is a problem since a handgun suffers alot from a bad trigger. They also went

It might be a cost effective revolver but it just isnt good when you compare with other options around (in game)

[opal garnet]

Well, in game Nagant Officer is on the stronger side

Gateloading is sure inferior to magazine replacement, but at the time popular new york reloading style made it irrelevant

[buoyant peak]

Nagant officer is okay i prefer new army since the officer recoil feels floaty

Weirdly enough officer hv feels better than officer

[opal garnet]

I too prefer new army because why do you need muzzle velocity if you pulled out a pistol

But you should apologize to irl nagant

[ocean turtle]

is this lore accurate?

[clear mortar]

Has the first born stalker beetle been shown?

Like do we know what it looks like?

[rotund ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/hunt-showdown-hunt-boucher-wtf-wtf-move-gif-15870536

[neat juniper]

Me when my momma reminds that i used to learn dancing in infancy

[visual finch]

Keep it actually lore related, y'all 👀

[rotund ferry]

Apparently it's lore accurate that hives have the dump truck

[clear mortar]

So who brought the revenant back from the dead

[loud steeple]

The bone doctor

[clear mortar]

Y did the bone doctor bring him back?

[loud steeple]

He was experimenting and happened to revive him I’m pretty sure

The lore is quite vague

[rotund ferry]

Steven Senegal

The bone doctor himself

King of Voodoo

Dr. JOHN

[rotund ferry]

As for why he brought him back he was testing that hot ass zaza 🥵 🔥

J doc and the gang be smokin that G pack

[edgy aspen]

Rollin' full on Vitality stack,
Laying down that Mosin smack.

[noble scarab]

Technically it was the night cult, but the bone doc had something to do with it

[sharp thicket]

can i get a lore summerization

[fallen sequoia]

everyone gangsta until the Butcher started bhopping

[empty owl]

can't wait for the butcher to start twerking and deals psychological damage/debuff to hunters ngl

[loud steeple]

From my understanding: Some weird dude/entity called the sculptor started a viral outbreak (the infection) in Louisiana that corrupts everything it touches. Also some big bois (the bosses) popped up, some through human intervention, like the butcher, and some directly because of the sculptor, like the spider, and are being used to spread the infection. The AHA (American Hunter’s Association) was created, and gets edgy cowboys to come over, injects them with magic juice to let them see large sources of the corruption (the bosses), and sends them out to kill said sources and bring proof back for money. Recent lore has been about a war between those who want to profit from the infection (Chary and his followers) and those who just want the infection gone period (most hunters, Kevin Linus being the recent figurehead) over protection of the moon (apparently it has magical powers too).

[opal garnet]

AHA existed long before that

And it's just american branch of worldwide hunter association

[spiral gate]

“Fearsome monsters.. Exotic creatures... Vast riches... Hidden treasures... Evil enclaves... Unexplored lands... The word “unknown” holds magic. And some incredible people are drawn to that magic. They are known... as Hunters!”

[noble scarab]

TLDR a blind idiot Cthulhu and a bunch of supernatural ye ye gun toting hunters got into a scuffle

[clear mortar]

Wait wait when someone said black coat had be killed by the twins like who are the twins???

[granite shard]

the twins are his daughters, seen in the Bad as they Seem story in the book of weapons https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Bad_As_They_Seem

[clear mortar]

He got killed by his own daughters????

[granite shard]

yeah

he killed their mom

[clear mortar]

Why'd he do that

[opal garnet]

Why wouldn't you

[upbeat kiln]

A well thought out argument always tickles me in the right places

[clear mortar]

Black coat a cold ass mfer

[untold blaze]

Wait, so it Monroe the only one who survived Victor Caldwell’s sniper assault upon Huffs army of the mentally Ill and deranged?

[empty owl]

monroe is an escaped patient from the jackson bedlam house, he was huff's prisoner and torture doll

nobody survived the sniper assault, the exception being leander coetzee and huff himself i think

[untold blaze]

Poor lad

I feel bad for Monroe

[noble scarab]

monroe out here getting vivisected

[untold blaze]

Dudes based, just tanking that

[rotund ferry]

So somebody did survive the sniper assault

[empty owl]

i did said exception

[earnest jungle]

I think it was written somewhere that Monroe escaped during the sniper attack.

[clear mortar]

So I have to ask is there any lore about the infected????

[untold blaze]

Hell yeah, go funky bald brain damaged dude

[opal garnet]

What war was Bridgewater fighting in?

[restive patrol]

the American-Indian Wars, he's a buffalo soldier

[nimble finch]

WHat is bridge water?

[opal garnet]

Sergeant Bridgewater, DLC legendary hunter

[opal garnet]

But which one

I checked and the only one I could find at that time was something where like 10 people died in a shootout

Crow uprising

[restive patrol]

It's not really a war in the traditional sense, more like a protracted conflict with the natives, that increased heavily during the period of western expansion post civil-war, comprised of either settler disputes (Texas-Indian Wars) or Army incursions against natives (Some examples being Battle of the Greasy Grass, Red Cloud's War) or hell even allied natives vs other natives if you are going back to the colonial period, with this all of course eventually resulting in native relegation to reservations and the disarmament of most native resistance. And besides, it is noted that Bridgewater has since retired from being a buffalo soldier as his store description notes how he gave up being an officially sanctioned Sergeant when he heard about the Sculptor's corruption of Louisiana as he sought to "fight what seemed to be a good fight"

[empty owl]

didn’t bridgewater became disillusioned by the military after what happened during the american-indian war?

[icy brook]

Yeah the Indian Wars in the west were pretty brutal, everyone talks about the Little Bighorn, but there was so much more to it than just that

[real dove]

Pretty sure all we have on him is what he came with when he dropped. Got infected with swamp plague, joined the hunters as a way to not become a grunt, lives on the edge of becoming grunt- hence the hand resetting he does when you load him up.

Is there a doc with all the hunters broken down with known lore about them?

[empty owl]

sadly no, we only have the bio to go off of and the occasional bits and pieces from the book of weapons

there are a couple of youtube videos that hazmat made but i can’t really say anything about them, but i heard they’re a good watch

[real dove]

Yeah, I've watched a good chunk of them. Tempted to make one, but there's already so many lore docs out there don't need to add to the clutter lol

[upbeat kiln]

I highly recommend Hazmat 😄

[frigid lance]

yo! your vids rock homie thank you for what you do

[upbeat kiln]

Thank you so much! I love your name 😄 ❤️

[real dove]

Do we know Dr. Reed's first name?

Dr. A. Reed is in his notes, just curious if we had the whole thing or just A

[clear mortar]

Is there any lore between Billy and the stalker beetles?

[bronze arch]

@clear mortar did they smach

no

[clear mortar]

Beetle

Billy Beetle

[noble scarab]

no, billy is probably dead by the time they discovered them tbh

[spark pasture]

So, the Dark Sight trailer shows Doctor John helping the Revenant out of his grave. But in the later backstory it says it was "The Night Speaker" - a member of the Night of the Hunt cult - who showed him the way back to the world of living. So, it's possible that the Night of the Hunt hooked on the Revenant as a new member but Doc John got there first and snatched him?

[opal garnet]

Trailer might not be cannon

There's a trailer where we see Reverend and Revenant fighting side by side

[noble scarab]

could be that the bone doc helped dig him up and now he's just a dead man for hire

we also see the barman in desalle get him his gun back

we also do see a mix of canon and non canon scenes in that trailer, so who knows

[clear mortar]

Wait so whos the night speaker?

[opal garnet]

Legendary Hunter that you can by with BBs

He is a leader of doomsday cult, night of the hunter

During the moon debacle he sided with Mr. Chary

Apparently, he plans to do something nefarious to his own cultists for personal gain

[clear mortar]

Ohhhh him

Okay so more important question right

Why does the moon play a significant role in some parts of the story?

[sturdy cliff]

Because the moon is a mirror of sorts, merely a reflection of life and light, now corrupted by the evil influence of Louisianans

I mean mega satan

[opal garnet]

Because moon controls the tides

And it's pretty wet in the bayo

[still lantern]

Is it true that the immolators are lesser loa spirits ?

[sturdy cliff]

I really doubt you'd find a definitive answer

[clear mortar]

Thought immolaters were just lik religious people

[opal garnet]

Most likely not, it is unlikely lousianna outbreak is tied to voodoo stuff

At least wholly

I sure wouldn't want to mess with voodoo, that shit's real

OK, wtf

Does reptilian also get a boyfriend?

What a good year to be reptilian

Christmas just doesn't stop on giving

Since he is the greedy one, my guess is that the event is him trying to gather all the boyfriends and girlfriends in lousiana

Like pokemon

[clear mortar]

Its probably to early to ask but y are they putting gator traps if all the gator were eaten/driven out by the corruption and mainly the water devils???

[opal garnet]

That is the mystery

[verbal rock]

Because with the tracks, it seems they’re not all gone exactly

[red spear]

My bet is the Sculptor got their hands on some of the unlucky ones that didn't make it out and are turning them, similar to what they did to the hellhounds

[verbal rock]

It’s definitely teasing there is some kind of gator presence

In what capacity we’ll see

[clear mortar]

Excited for the potential of an alligator boss

[sturdy cliff]

zealous people if the entries are anything to go by. Which, a few of them harp on the person being infected/'sculpted' being in part responsible for how they end up

[solemn eagle]

What if the reptilian is releasing the gators into the swamp

[rotund ferry]

First immolator was a Priest overtaken by anger or something

Other immolators are just hunters who didn't save their souls in time during quickplay

[tired spear]

gators got chased and basically genocided by water devils iirc

unless the sculptor decides that gators would make a fun addition to his monstrorum; there's no real reason for the devils not to eat any re-introduced gators

[tired spear]

really? i thought that just like hives and meatheads, they were merely clones of the original, replicated by the sculptor

[clear mortar]

I've seen the idea that gators r being brought to the bayou to feed something bigger

[rotund ferry]

This is probably the actual lore for it

I've never actually taken the time to read some of the lore so I have just developed this headcanon

It makes sense that immolators are just hunters from quickplay though 😂

[tired spear]

I mean yeah, either immolators or just regular grunts.
There was a q&a where they said that some hunters could turn into grunts

[noble scarab]

The infected is one such hunter

[rotund ferry]

I hope they bring the infected back

I'd like to get him

Steel eye too

The concept of a lone survivor staving off a life threatening infection whilst fighting off the very monsters you'll soon become is cool and has a lot of potential as a story

Inspecting the infected's appearance it looks like he's got an arm and a leg tied off similarly to how pioneers and immigrants would tie off the wound where a rattlesnake bit to supposedly slow down the spread of the venom

[clear mortar]

Love the infected , Billy and steel eyed

And I don't have any of them

[opal garnet]

Reptilian tried to steal everyone's favorite waifu Felis

[real dove]

like... just picked her up and ran off into the swamp?

He should know better than to try to mess with women wearing the skulls of dangerous critters

[opal garnet]

Who do you think those traps are for

Probably put in some cat food and she crawled inside

[real dove]

The mental image of felis sitting in a cage yowling and hissing is a great one

I was picturing her slung over his shoulder first

[vernal stag]

Looks like Somber Gale is referring to a period of multiple big storms that hit Louisiana in 1893. This specific one is most likely https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1893_Cheniere_Caminada_hurricane

[rotund ferry]

Jaguars bite the back of Caiman's heads to kill them instantly

Felis is a cat and Reptilian is just a slightly bigger Caiman

I think Reptilian wants Felis to dominate him

[opal garnet]

I dunno, he made a duster out of her cheek

[real dove]

He would be the type to prefer to lay there and do very little... Dang cold blooded bastards

[clear mortar]

what

[rotund ferry]

What

[opal garnet]

Read new duster skin description

[empty owl]

don't think he made them

i think the ward made them

[earnest jungle]

No the Dusters are made from the Monongahela Cougar and Felis either gave them to him or killed her and took them from her

[empty owl]

knowing that felis can turn into a mountain lion, safe to say she’s a hard one to take down just saying

[upbeat kiln]

That might just be a rumour though 😄

[empty owl]

true, considering carter and what not

[opal garnet]

Found another interesting piece of lore

This is interesting, because we all see moons, Lynch, Mr. Chary openly manipulate hunters

How many of them know who they are working for?

Also I already hate upcoming hunter

Weebs ruin everything

Don't we already have enough waifus for them

Whoooah she has a demon mask she's sooooo coooooool

Can we get a cowboy for a change?

[rotund ferry]

No

Ancient Japanese larp is always cool

[rotund ferry]

You pointed out earlier that these dusters were made out of Felis's cheek but I'm pretty sure they were a either a gift from a friend or a trophy from a vanquished foe like the description says

Either Felis and Reptilian encountered each other during a hunt as adversaries or they have been on hunts together as allies

The item's description goes both ways

[sturdy cliff]

We got a few cowboys with the update

I'm just glad it's not a bush hunter

Another bow and throwing skin though

Lol, lmao

[rotund ferry]

Bows are cool

So is this new Japanese hunter

I do think the Hornback hunter is cool

Kinda has that cowboy outlaw look

We're getting a lot of hunters in such a short time

At some point there's gonna be more hunters in hunt showdown than there are characters in other games

[opal garnet]

Wake me up when they make katana skin for the saber

[real dove]

I'd love to see variations on the hunters we already have, rather than more hunters. Flesh out some stories, add some lore.

[real dove]

That would be cool

[late vortex]

Approximately when does Hunt take place?

[opal garnet]

1896

[late vortex]

Thanks

[rotund ferry]

Between 1896 and 1904

Technically 1896-1916 since the game features a hand held machine gun

[upbeat kiln]

This :))

[clear mortar]

I agree with this

[loud steeple]

Nothing has ever said beyond 1904/5 and they just attribute avto to the “craftiness of hunters”. And of course because screw balance who needs that

[rotund ferry]

Yeah bud I was just humoring the idea that a hand held machine gun existed pre 1916

I'm well aware of when the game takes place and why the Avtomat exists

The guns in hunt are based on non-fictional firearms but still elaborate on a fictional nature

Guns like the lemat Mk 2 never existed

[wraith cove]

1902 but still wild

[sturdy cliff]

they exist in my heart

[empty owl]

1902 on steroids, crack, and psychedelics

[left socket]

someone send me the best vide explaining the lore ?

[coral trellis]

So im pretty sure that Daughter of decay is Pagan.
Judging by her clothes, and her story about sacrificing blood for crops, and other survival needs.
And the Louisiana has a long history of Pagan teachings and voodoo, Natives, and a whole bunch of stuff so it would make sense.
Her legendarys also show she is definitely not from civilisation.
Her knife is made from Antlers, her bow was made by hand. The only other thing was a rifle gifted to her by another legendary Hunter Felis.
In her crytek store description it says "so she placed dried seeds on her cold fingers and prayed they brought her mother bounty in a world beyond."
I'm trying to figure out this belief is from, If anyone can find some more clues let me know.
But im fairly certain she is Pagan to some degree, it doesn't say it in any of her lore texts, but I believe it's heavily hinted.

[fallen sequoia]

MORE!!! MORE WAIFUS!!!!!

[rotund ferry]

I think quite a few hunters would be considered Pagan

Frau Perchta is a good example

[coral trellis]

Well definition of pagan, is just the belief of a different god.
I'm thinking Daughter believes in Celtic, or maybe Norse, hell even Monotheistic

Probably Monotheistic judging by her obsession over corrupt soil

[coral trellis]

I forgot she existed tbh

She scary tho ngl

[rotund ferry]

She's German or Austrian so makes sense

Fairy tale from France: a Beast falls in love with a beautiful woman

Fairy tale from Germany: "Alright my children, get into the oven so I can eat you!"

I get Hansel and Gretel teaches the life lesson of not to trust every stranger you meet but damn that's a creepy way of teaching it

Also Slenderman is technically a Germanic myth before it was an internet sensation

[coral trellis]

Wouldn't surprise me

[rotund ferry]

"Der Grossmann"

or Großmann if you can manage the Ezsett

[small fjord]

@rotund ferry the LeMat did exist. You can buy one now.

[rotund ferry]

The one we have in game is way different from the one we have in real life

The biggest difference between them is that there never was any slug or buckshot rounds in a cartridge for the LeMat

[tropic falcon]

?

It was capable of shooting buckshot

Thats the thing that made it stand out XD

I even think they had to make smaller caliber for hos ammo or something idk

[rotund ferry]

Not in a cartridge and the way the hammer operates and switches firing modes is also completely fictional

And I meant grapeshot not buckshot*

[tropic falcon]

XD alright. I can't say for sure since i ain't no gun expert, just an aficionado

Buuuut

The hammer WAS like that XD

Ypu flicked a lever that forced the hammer to hit either one of the 9 revolver rounds or the center cartridge XD

Then i'll hear that the carabine is fictional or the baby lemat

But i dunno

Perhaps this is fictional

[tropic falcon]

That i certainly can't say for sure, i remember it being a .60 smoothbore barrel

But then it got a downgrade

[rotund ferry]

My knowledge of the LeMat revolver is based off of a model I personally fired during my time at a shooting range in Colorado Springs but for all I know it could've been a piece that was tinkered with. It did not feature the "flick hammer" as you call it. Also what is "XD."

[tropic falcon]

Ah we must remember that the lemat is old like 1860 old

So there are different versions

The original even had a ramrod on its side that you used to load both chambers

But yeah it probably was tinkered with

Cuz the whole selling point of the lemat was that it was a revolver with a 9-shot cylinder around a "secondary" barrel that served as a low range shotgun

[tropic falcon]

Or a modern version of the weapon

[fallow gorge]

Lemat carabine is indeed a real life gun

[tropic falcon]

Yes it is

Really love how it looks

Shame i've yet to get slugs Xd

[stoic sun]

Why is the Webley Mk VI Revolver not ingame

Designed in 1887, used until the 1970’s

[earnest jungle]

There was in fact a cartridge version of the gun and it was but ugly.

And there was a real life break action LeMatt, but it was a prop gun from the 50s or 60s

[left socket]

yooo i have one of those

[tired spear]

that's actually the cartridge version of the lemat carbine

there's a percussion cap variant, which is the one we have in the game (minus the break-action)

[rotund ferry]

Probably still being used somewhere to this day

[rotund ferry]

Very cool

One of the few times the French were able to produce a firearm

[lavish mist]

luv lemat

all my homies love it too

[mint flicker]

So… is worm bite a “good guy”?

I don’t fully understand his hunter description.

[opal garnet]

None of them are good guys

He is probably isn't after money

That makes him "gooder" than most

[mint flicker]

True

There are though Seer , who are not for money, but are for… apocalypse?)

[cunning basalt]

Why is scrapbeak so durable even though its just a guy with a bird fetish

[mint flicker]

He was modified by Huff, if I remember correctly. And he Carrie’s a lot of shiet on his back, that’s why he receives less damage from behind.

[clear mortar]

Whos huff?

Or what does he do?

[cunning basalt]

Phillip HUFF Jones is the director of the American hunters association and superintendent of a mental asylum i think

He's dead by the events of the game because he got assassinated and there was no self revive back then

[clear mortar]

Ah

[opal garnet]

Humanity really was less before self revive was invented

[cunning basalt]

yes

[left socket]

not irl

[cunning basalt]

What is the concoction that gives people darksight called?

[spark pasture]

Just a correction from some discussion days ago: the one who showed the Revenant the way to the living world, this "Night Speaker", is not the Isaac Powell (the Night Seer), but a member of his cult Night of the Hunt. The Martini-Henry entries tells a bit about them. Among other things, it describes how members must leave the past behind and adopt new names - the Night Listener, Night Speaker, Night Seer, etc.

Thought this was a cool piece of info. Maybe we see other members in the future, as new legendary hunters.

[wraith cove]

@cunning basalt demon blood if im not mistaken

Tldr if i remember correctly is lynch started juicing up demons and gave it it too huff to give to aha

And some hunter just have it naturally

[upbeat kiln]

There was the old and quite inefficient version that the AHA used to utilize. It was comprised of various herbs cooked into a thick molasses which was then injected. This proved rather unreliable in terms of safeguarding women though.

The entity Lynch then later introduced the AHA to a new serum. This was, allegedly, done through a sacrificial ritual where people were skinned alive to summon a faceless demon. Lynch would then kill this demon, distil its blood and put the content into syringes.

[rotund ferry]

"Skinned alive" and "faceless demon?"

Guys I think Lynch killed the Slenderman

Bottled up his blood, provided it to the AHA and called it day

[mint flicker]

WIt, I thought the voodoo doctor was the one who brought the revenant back to life

[rotund ferry]

He is

He's thinking of a different black guy who is a Messiah

He's partially right though

Basically Doctor John brought the Bad hand back to life thus making him the Revenant and now the Revenant formally known as the Bad hand had relations with the Night of the Hunt doomsday cult.

Now the Night of the Hunt and the Revenant are Infernal Pact hunters for Mr. Chary

[opal garnet]

Lynch Gamer Girl Bathwater

[rotund ferry]

K bud you fucked up

[spark pasture]

See, this is the mystery. The only place I see where Doc John (The Bone Doctor) brings the Revenant back is in the Darksight trailer. The lore text for the Revenant says it was brought back by The Night Speaker (one of Isaac Powell's followers). I have two theories for this:

1. The Darksight trailer has a mistake and it should have been one of Isaac Powell's followers to take Revenant from the grave or
2. The Night Speaker only showed the path back to life to the Revenant, perhaps with the intent of recruiting him, but Doctor John got there first.

[upbeat kiln]

What did you bring upon this cursed earth

[loud steeple]

Most trailers aren’t known to be cannon

[clear mortar]

Why does Billy story have a blue book

[opal garnet]

Undisclosed

[clear mortar]

Bro a menace

[opal garnet]

No, it's purely for "wooooow we don't know lore must be soooo deeeep"

[clear mortar]

But of all characters to have something like that specifically called out i wouldn't think Billy

[bold tangle]

how long has this been here?

(It’s in the upper floor of the fish store in lower desalle)

[lunar sky]

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-i-need-it-spongebob-gif-11796572

Idk but is their lore on how hunters take gunshots mostly unaffected not at all hindered

[noble scarab]

The hunter serum makes them vaguely supernatural, granting them the ability to take a nitro to the forehead and still stand back up

[lunar sky]

So they’ll get to stay intact and revived after getting “killed” if they took the serum

[opal garnet]

Not cannon

Just gameplay

[zealous blade]

Heard someone mention that the serum makes them slightly more resilient, but part of it is also just gameplay obviously

I think it was one of Hazmats vids?

[opal garnet]

I don't watch lore videos

I just read lore

And smut fanfics

Mostly smut fanfics

Only smut fanfics

[loud steeple]

Are meatheads the only non-hunter entity that uses traits? Also who is scattering traits around the map

[sturdy cliff]

source?

also I don't think its meatheads using traits so much as something in them being able to be utilized by hunters

scrapbeak drops them as well

[red spear]

Where are you finding these? Asking for a friend

[loud steeple]

Scrapbeak drops them because he found them in the compound. Lore wise. He just collects whatever is in the compound, which generally happens to be a trait

Meatheads have poison sense, and there’s no lore reason for them to pick up traits like scrapbeak

[sturdy cliff]

I doubt they're picking it up and its just something inside of them instead

[rotund ferry]

It wouldn't surprise me if traits were just some other mystical voodoo bs that Doctor John had a hand in

In fact I'm noticing a reoccurring theme that voodoo magic is to blame for a lot of stuff

[real dove]

I have a hard time imagining that a hunter would leave other hunters traits to find though

could be some other entity leaving them to help hunters against the Sculptor... or a way for the Sculptor to further corrupt the Hunters? Unless there is lore on that front that I dont know of

[rotund ferry]

I'm curious to know what and where this "sword that began to sing" is and why The Miko doesn't have it as part of her weaponry

[clear mortar]

I just want more western styled characters man

[obsidian scroll]

this is not voodoo swamp vibes at all

[noble scarab]

Worm bite is pretty western tbh

and gator lady, at least in hat

[coral trellis]

Right?
Like its her entire reason she's here.

Is it on her character model at least?

[coral trellis]

Well there's plenty of voodoo.

-Bone doc
-weird sis
-Revenent
-the moon cult people
Ect...

[rotund ferry]

Not at all

She must've left it back at home in Japan

It's her whole reason for being here in Louisana and it's literally her whole character synopsis

And yet I see no sword on her character model or a part of her arsenal

She just carries around Kuni and a Yumi (it's too small to be a Yumi but that's what it would be)

[lunar sky]

She left it on the boat 🤣

[coral trellis]

Maybe it's in Louisiana?
That wouldn't make sense, but it says she followed the melody. Meaning it was coming from here?

But the sword was given to her

Crytek plz

Where is the sword

[lunar sky]

Fr

[coral trellis]

"She wields"
So she does in fact have it. And use it.

So where is it.

[rotund ferry]

It's the Katana Saber skin we're missing

Crytek is hiding it

[real dove]

someone go rifle through their pockets and get it for us

[sturdy cliff]

someone burned out all the bodies

(they were scared of necro)

[loud steeple]

They’ll put it on the machete if anything and no one will use it

[rotund ferry]

Who is this headstone for?

[coral trellis]

Jacob Ortiz.
I tells you

[empty owl]

considering that the ronin was mentioned one too many times in her bio, maybe he took it?

katana melee weapon tease?

[noble scarab]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/icd4t3/jacob_ortiz_sullivan_grave_solved/ see here for some ideas, but tldr we don't know

[empty owl]

maybe its just an easter egg or something that crytek added

who knows really

[rotund ferry]

Ronin has a Wakizashi not a Katana

So I don't think he has it

maybe we'll get another Japanese inspired hunter

preferably one with a more military background

[empty owl]

possibly, sure is odd for a hunter to mention a weapon of theirs and not have it featured in any capacity

[rotund ferry]

Ronin and Miko seem to be Samurai inspired but by 1896 the battle of Shiroyama has already taken place so Japan is no longer Feudal

[rancid hornet]

It's too small to be a Daikyu. It's 100% a Hankyu, which is what they even call it.

[rancid hornet]

Ronin has a Tanto.

[empty owl]

^

[rancid hornet]

If we're going size wise; a katana would be a saber, a wakizashi would be a machete.

[rotund ferry]

The shape doesn't really feel Tanto to me but for the sake of size I guess it would be

[rancid hornet]

But it's a classic example of what a tanto would look like?

[rotund ferry]

and a Hankyu still has the grip closer to the base of the bow but at that point they'd just have to add another weapon into the game

[rancid hornet]

It's not asymmetrical, but that's just the limits of the preexisting model.

[rotund ferry]

yeah it's based on model not the actual weapon itself

I think it'd be cool if we saw more Japanese firearms from the Meiji period

[rancid hornet]

Also, side note, Ronin has a military background

[rotund ferry]

or at least skins based on them

[rotund ferry]

Yeah I should've specified that I'm talking about more hunters with a military appearance

[rancid hornet]

Eh. While the Murata would be interesting, it's very lesser known.

[icy brook]

^

[rancid hornet]

Also, do you want Meiji era uniforms? Because those are suuuuper boring.

[rotund ferry]

wait how is Meiji era boring?

[icy brook]

Kropatschek but make it Japanese

[rancid hornet]

The uniforms of the army are boring.

[rotund ferry]

weird I can't post any images

basically something from the russo-japanese war would be cool to see

and before you say anything about the year according to lore there have been dates as far as 1904

[icy brook]

America hit its prime it terms of uniform during the Hunt era, Span Am war uniforms go hard

That’s why I play Bridgewater so much

[rancid hornet]

The plain blue uniform with gold trim and a red collar?

Dark blue/black.

[rotund ferry]

sometimes gold sometimes red but yes

that uniform goes hard

It's so simple and clean

[rancid hornet]

Eh. It's very same-y for a lot of the areas in the world at that time period, which is why I said they're boring.

While, I agree that it would be nice to see, I'm a fan of them going with the more traditional style outfits for the Japanese hunters.

[rotund ferry]

traditional is good but so is more modern

I'd like to see a mix of both

[rancid hornet]

Like the Chinese hunters.

Big fan of The Sovereign.

I can't tell if Zhong Kui is Chinese or Korean though

[empty owl]

fairly certain he's chinese

alongside dead blessing

[rotund ferry]

I think all 4 of them are Chinese

[empty owl]

exactly

[rancid hornet]

I lean that way too, the garb is just similar enough that I can't tell for sure. His name does come from Chinese Taoist mythology though

[rotund ferry]

Yeah Zhong Kui DLC features the machete skin "blood orchid" which describes it as "a deadly machete-like Dao blade with red cloth hung from its hilt"

[rancid hornet]

I would use that skin more...

...if the machete was good

[rotund ferry]

If it weren't a Machete yeah

lol

[rancid hornet]

Most people would disagree, but I think they should put the saber on the machete tree.

It would make sense.

[rotund ferry]

Just up the damage on it so people actually use it

I never see anyone use machete but we got cool skins like Dao and Arlington grave

feels like such a waste

[white pasture]

the wight is the coolest

lorewiwse as well

[verbal rock]

I was hoping that if we were to get another Japanese legendary, it’d had been a Naginata turned bomblance

But the bow is pretty nice I guess

[empty owl]

my personal pick would be the arlington

[verbal rock]

The Arlington?

[empty owl]

arlington grave

the machete skin

[verbal rock]

Oh

Fair enough

I’m stupid and forgot

[rotund ferry]

It's basically a Saber just half of it is missing

[verbal rock]

It’s a really nice skin

But it’s the fucking machete

[empty owl]

its a saber with it's blade snapped in half and barbed wires covering its grip

[rotund ferry]

And somehow still classed as a machete

It's weird because in the trailer for Bridgewater everyone thought Arlington grave would've been a knife skin because he had all 3 equipped

[clear mortar]

wished there was more western themed hunters yano like a prospector, southern gentleman and like another hillbilly or something

[cedar kestrel]

Is Mr Chary the sculptor?

[untold blaze]

No

[hot vault]

more cowboys

what the fuck

[earnest jungle]

Oh for the love of God:
Carter, Brewer, Hardin, Sofia, Steel Eyed, Kid, Black Coat, Gunslinger, Mountain Man, Rat Revenant, Spirited, Turncoat, Teche Spirit, 3rd Wraith, Wayfarer, and The Exile. There’s no shortage of Legendary Hunters that fit the aesthetics of the wild west. In the fact I dare say the vast majority of the Legendary Hunters fit the aesthetics of a western. Don’t be babies cause we’re getting a second Japanese character.

[rotund ferry]

I will say more western hunters would be nice but I honestly don't mind the other stuff too much

Obviously it's 1896 in Louisana United States so the American influence is gonna be strong but this is also around the time where cultural mixture really started to pop off especially when you've got major world changing events on the horizon

We did just get Wormbite and Hornback which sorta fit a Wild west aesthetic

[high stone]

Hmm..did my comment get deleted?

More Gilded Age / Progressive Era style hunters would be nice…yeah, less 1880s ‘Wild West’ tropey stuff

Spooky swampland

[rotund ferry]

I would love a Teddy Roosevelt hunter

[high stone]

I like the army outfits too, too bad the game isnt a few years later

(+1 to Bridgewater being cool)

[rotund ferry]

maybe a hunter like this

Look they've all got Krags

[high stone]

Maybe, at least with some of the surplus gear… not sure if those are wool coats but it gets pretty hot down there

[rotund ferry]

they look like wool yeah but we've got hunters with entire fur coats so I don't see an issue

late 1890s to early 1900s USMC uniforms were pure drip

[high stone]

Haha I always feel bad for the fur coat guys, not sure they should continue

Yeah, more brimmed hats that aren’t cattleman hats would be welcome I think

[rotund ferry]

Ranger style

[tired spear]

Look, all I want from my cowboy game is cowboy hats. And we're not getting that many lately.
I mean, in southern US, cowboy hats were high fashion until the 1910s, it makes sense to have them

[high stone]

Hehe

[clear mortar]

Y in the helll is there a ten minute slowdown in general?

Bro what happened

[lyric arrow]

A bit confused as to why you chose to ask that in lore discussion... But in short, servers went down for maintenance and the Community chose chaos over behaving

wanted to lift it again - community chose more chaos - so it stayed longer

[clear mortar]

Where else u want me to ask? General with the slowdown

[lyric arrow]

Latest update discussion is typically where people go next... or gamequestions, or even offtopic - altho that gets you broomed

[rotund ferry]

It's still high fashion in some parts of the US and has been for a century now

ie ranchers and farmers wear them

[hushed kiln]

Buster Scruggs as a legendary hunter? I would love that.

[opal garnet]

Primus gang as legendary hunters

https://tenor.com/view/omw-on-my-way-headingout-gif-6229326

[cedar kestrel]

Western best

Though if they are pulling from Asia they could also pull from other continents and countries for the timeline and maybe come up with something interesting

I wish this game had a more expanded lore

[opal garnet]

Yes

Nice avatar by the way

It's not that we want western character, we want cowboy characters

Like the gunslinger and the kid

[cedar kestrel]

Black coat and turncoat are westerny too

But yeah, give us someone like Angel Eyes or Tuco

[restive patrol]

Tuco's prob deceased, given that The Rat's lore, strongly suggests she's the daughter of Tuco from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

[rotund ferry]

I don't think Crytek is gonna go down the whole established IP route and introduce characters from other media into the game

but I do see them adding more historical references to real life gunslingers, cowboys, outlaws etc

for example we've got Billy the kid

[high stone]

I’m a big ol’ broken record on this, but I think it would be *great* if the character and world design skewed toward Gilded Age USA weirdness and away from what gamers think cowboys look like..1895 is getting late for ‘Cowboy’ stuff anyway…Frederic Remington even has an 1895 painting called ‘The Fall of The Cowboy’ because the era of the untamed west has come to a close…

Gamers can get a rehashed Red Dead shooter somewhere else, the creepy gilded-age Lovecraft stuff Hunt already has is too good to give up.

A lot of the stylistic influences are aped from other things too - The Black Coat is basically just James Delaney from “Taboo”…which is in England in the early 1800’s, pretty un-western

But the show has an awesome creepy supernatural atmosphere, so it was borrowed for Hunt

..hey, isn’t this “Lore Discussion”?

(I would love it if Crytek cleaned out and tightened up the story they HAVE in Louisiana, before they start adding adventures in other places…but I think that’s not likely, either.)

Also kind of debatable whether “The Kid” is Billy the Kid, or a reference to the protagonist in “Blood Meridian”, since there are a few other B. Meridian references in Hunt

Serious question for other Hunt players though - do you guys NOT enjoy the Louisiana bayou/ voodoo/backwoods swamp setting?

Would you just prefer a PVP with dusty towns (like lower/upper desalle), mesas, deserts?

[lunar sky]

I love that idea or the old guy who got camped for his gold

[high stone]

Lol

[amber minnow]

I think the Bayou is a pretty unique setting for western setting. At least, I haven't seen it yet.
It's usually the Arizona desert or far west Texas (in the desert).

But I also wouldn't be opposed to some sort of TDM game mode in desalle

[red spear]

I personally love that it's set in Louisiana. I was born and raised in a similarly swampy area of Florida so it feels a bit like home. But, I could see how reusing the same biome would start to feel repetitive. That's why I'm loving the introduction of wildcards (I would love to see inferno map added back in, plus maybe a tropical storm/hurricane sort of condition) to make players readjust their playstyle. And perhaps having more of an urban New Orleans map would be a nice addition.

[amber minnow]

Same to this. I'm from south eastern Texas and currently in Florida. I can practically smell the moss

[high stone]

Yeah, I like the wildcard environment changes a lot.

My point is really just that the Bayou and 1895 setting is really tonally distinct from just “Cowboy Western”

[red spear]

Just a cursory search, but a snow wildcard could also happen. There was a snow storm in New Orleans in 1895

[high stone]

Even if there are leftover hats, weapons and gear that are associated with the Wild West

That’s true, big blizzard that year

[high stone]

So adding more “Cowboy” stuff really dilutes the tone of Hunt that is so well done

Lots of great Gilded Age stuff out there

More “Bram Stoker’s Dracula” and H.P. Lovecraft, less “Tombstone” and “Deadwood”.

If you’re going to put in Scruggs, may as well add Yosemite Sam too.

[red spear]

If they were to add more "cowboy" characters I'd want to see it done in the style of gunslinger or Turncoat in terms of backstory: people who had their glory days in the west and are either on the run from something or looking for "greener pastures"

[high stone]

Sure - I’m thinking more of the way they look…I like both of those characters, Turncoat is a great cross between a gunfighter and a monster hunter, like he’s prepared to deal with stomping around in all filth in the swamps.

[high stone]

I’m also saying, Hunt is not “Western”, it’s Southern Gothic/Gilded Age Horror…I have a strong suspicion that many players understand and prefer a Cowboy shootout theme more, from exposure to games like Red Dead and popular older movies, and REALLY want the game to change into an E-Sports ready Cowboy TDM.

[noble scarab]

Fist full of frags is the cowboy tdm game

But I mean hunts original concept was literally called Horrors of the Gilded Age

[amber minnow]

Well hey cool, learn something new I guess.

[high stone]

That’s true too! Thankfully Crytek shifted it from the corny steampunk adolescent appeal in “Horrors of the Gilded Age”, to the more mature horror in “Hunt.”

[amber minnow]

Are there any books or comics for Hunt?

[red spear]

I don't believe there are. Some good fan-made material tho

[tall spade]

So I'm a little confused by the story arch from what happened to Kevin to the Questline and the Reptilian Legendary Hunter making moves. Is there some source of the lore I've missed?

The Hornback is aligned with the Reptilian, and the Scaled Ward is hunting the Reptilian is what I've picked up.

[tall spade]

On reflection, is the lore all just one big graph theory problem to solve? Each [Name] has a [Legendary Hunter Title] who did a trial at [Location] and is affiliated with [Group] and owns weapons [Weapons Name 1] and [Weapon Name 2].

Then we map every sentence, every clue, into various nodes to connect the dots? 🙂

[high stone]

Haha, I would think more along the lines of “I only have this short X amount of time to write this game content, let’s get’r done.” 🙃

[tall spade]

Well, graphing this in software would actually find the contradictions, if any.

[high stone]

Interesting!

That would be cool to see

[cunning pollen]

I feel like crytec aint doin enough with the night of the hunter

They seem like a real easy bad guy to have fun with

Especially since all your favorite streamers and youtubers are a part of the cult

[rotund ferry]

So they're not really bad guys or at least in the sense that they're no more morally questionable than anyone else in Hunt but they are a very weird group of people

Basically worshipping the same monsters they hunt and kill

Or at least I think that's their whole gig

Maybe it's the blood of the monsters they cherish because they use it decorate their clothing and weaponry

All I really know is they hunt like any other hunter does but they have this doomsday cultist motive that drives their need to hunt and not just the reward

I also know that they're in league with Mr. Chary and Mr. Chary ain't exactly on great terms with the Sculptor and the Sculptor is supposedly responsible for the infection which in turn is responsible for the monsters that the Night of the Hunt is focused on

So I think it's safe to assume that the Night of the Hunt doesn't worship the Sculptor or it's creations like some sort of God but rather they acknowledge the power of it and seek to obtain and learn from it... by killing the monsters and siphoning their blood

Basically butcher piggy blood is holy blood!

🩸 🛐

[cunning pollen]

I always just figured that they wanted to hasten the corruption by killing as many hunters as they could so they could siphon more power

[narrow ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/buldak-watermelon-monkey-kiyo-vapor-gif-19425964

[rotund ferry]

I think it's like this but instead of hunters it's the monsters and bosses

[analog wedge]

whats the resson for the emulator ?

bec i was lookin at a vid and they where going on as that it wasnt from the creator of the rest of em

[real dove]

immolator was born from a peacher who got his skulls stamped in and was reborn with holy fire to kill the bastards who killed him (if I recall correctly)

so angery he self combusted

[high stone]

I think they’re a Doomsday cult ( Christian?), Powell, the Night Seer, claims he has visions of the Apocalypse and thinks the blood of the creatures will protect him and his followers when the world ends.

The Prescient (I think?) used to be a part of the cult and claims Powell is lying, and she sees things he doesn’t

I think they’re a good villain group too! Definitely not the only ones in the game, but they could be a great side antagonist organization

[real dove]

Yeah, she was the one making the noodle baskets for Chary/Isaac until she found out what they were doing and teamed up with kev and crew during Serpent Moon.

[high stone]

Oh, right! I like the Night of the Hunters…kind of wish they would revise Chary, Kevin and the moon business out of existence lol

I found out recently that “Kevin” is German slang for “Stupid Person”.

So it’s even more of a mystery why Crytek would name him that

(Seems like it was an unpopular name in the 1880-90s USA too, though that probably makes little difference)

[high stone]

I should also always say that my criticism comes from a place of love for Hunt

[red spear]

ngl I'm fine with the introduction of the Moon lore with Chary and Kevin (tho I'm def biased bc I'm dating a Kevin 😅 ) but the execution wasn't...great? If I have to do an Olympian's worth of mental gymnastics to get the story to make sense I need to ask myself if it's just bad writing.

The story as a whole has a lot of potential, and I have to wonder if the "penny dreadful" style of writing for Traitor and Serpent Moon should be chalked up to being chapters of Simon Moore's Lunae Diaboli. And I think the Archeologist said it best in Devil's Moon "They’re turning history to a black void. An abyss into which many will lose their minds delving into." Like, yeah. I feel like I'm losing my dang mind sifting through fragmented documentation. Or maybe I'm throwing the writers too many bones idk

[opal garnet]

Red dead redemption is too set in gilded age

[high stone]

This is true, but distinctly presented as a Texas/Mexico “Wild West” flavor in setting, costume, etc.

[high stone]

I think it’s just poor writing, and I get the feeling the writers were given the job of duct taping some bad ideas together to achieve some narrative bridge - having Kevin send letters out to other distant Hunters, maybe so they could have maps in other places (Japan? More western Rockies?) since there’s probably a paying market from some fans there

The structure, ideas, and dialogue are pretty bewildering though…I think the idea with Legendary Hunters was that they had appeared at some point with their own part to play in the overall storyline, and you could play as them in a session like it was an experience of those events…not that everyone would show up and form teams like they’re characters in a Pro Wrestling championship

It is bonkers, almost just a cluster of meaningless details and events

[opal garnet]

Sadly there is no lore

[tranquil wave]

you think the assassin plays video games

[mint basalt]

…assassins creed

Im sorry

He built himself cosplay hidden blades too

[high stone]

Victor getting in some fishing in Animal Crossing before he has to slaughter intruding Hunters

[cunning basalt]

the reason why revives can bring us back to life after we get our heads blown off by a nitro express is because of magic?

[noble scarab]

yes