lore-discussion

[fossil flame]

don't think he's blind to them, he just writes it off as collateral damage in order to reach his goals

[earnest jungle]

He has a complete disregard for human suffering and is quite possibly exacerbating the Outbreak with his rituals

He is like someone took the worst traits of Philip Huff Jones and Lynch and put them into one person.

[fossil flame]

i mean chary just transformed half the bayou into a human soul harvesting plant

[opaque jetty]

i like it, efficient

[celest notch]

Gets the job done

[rotund ferry]

I have a question folks

What language is hunt showdown lore based things like .. idk.. spotify serpent moon theres some book with weird language words and letters

Or some weird letters over map in game

[loud steeple]

It’s probably the language the aha uses

[neat juniper]

english

[north spear]

So question and I hope this can be answered with lore. How do hunters collect the Hive bombs?

[rotund ferry]

Ye but i heard its also voynich or sum

[noble scarab]

its called Vonich, based off of the IRL voynich manuscript, which was a medieval tome that was up until recently untranslated. the hunt version has a defined alphabet and is more or less translatable if you feel like looking it up

[high stone]

Whoa, cool!

[high stone]

I imagine someone collects an “occupied” piece of poison wasp hive while using protective gear, and places it in a jar

[sinful warren]

Time to read all the Lore stuff

[small abyss]

@noble scarab so if lunar pact is the good guys and infernal is the bad are the grounded guys just neutral?

[spiral lynx]

what is this thing that we suck it and gets 6 event points

[small abyss]

Lol poor wording

[weary jay]

its called a Soul Trap

[spiral lynx]

whats a story behind it and why do we suck it

[loud steeple]

First of all the verb in question would be reave.
Secondly I also want to know why we suck the statues

[neat juniper]

Corrects a mistake
Makes same mistake again
Refuses to elaborate
Leaves

[celest notch]

No

[sinful warren]

Late, already did

[neat juniper]

What is there?

[sinful warren]

Just read stuff about the event, some hunters lore

Yet Im still missing what happened to Chary

[noble scarab]

Grounded hunters are more focused on the Hunt itself, they don’t care for the moon or Chary, they just want to hunt

[noble scarab]

Nothing. Nothing happened to him, in the event that was supposed to kill him off, crytek just kinda forgot to do it

[celest notch]

Well he gives us rewards daily, they can't kill him

[frigid bone]

Chary noped out when the lunar pact went after him.
He conveniently left the instructions for the ritual behind.

[neat juniper]

conveniently

[small abyss]

The redneck is lunar and a hero

[scarlet spire]

what are the goals of the other pacts?

[neat juniper]

Lunar take down chary
Inferno take down moon

That is roughly

[scarlet spire]

gru from despicable me is of the infernal pact?

i think i know what side im joining

[neat juniper]

So is vector

[scarlet spire]

even better

what is chary's goal then? is he infernal or more of an independent?

[neat juniper]

Chary's goal is more like become god gain power eat hot chip

And it just so happens that easiest way is to kill moon

[celest notch]

wait i thought what chary was doing was to take down the sculptor

[neat juniper]

I mean

I might be wrong

[scarlet spire]

why does infernal want moon gone?

[neat juniper]

Any experts with confidence in chat?

[scarlet spire]

if their goals arent exactly aligned with chary, that is

[noble scarab]

Chary is using the moon somehow , his inferno pact guys just follow him cause he’s rich and powerful

[sinful warren]

[celest notch]

im pretty sure chary just wants to deal with the sculptor, sadly the way he found to way to gain power is by draining the moon, which the lunar people dont like

[noble scarab]

Chary seems to seek a way to become one of these entities, and I think he’s just using the sculptor as an excuse to gain power

Like yea guys I’ll destroy the sculptor once I’m a god

[celest notch]

hey, hes getting the job done

[scarlet spire]

im a simple combat axe enjoyer. all this picking sides is too much for me. grounded it is.

[high stone]

Happy New Year fellows!

May the servers be popular, and responsive

[noble scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/auld-lang-syne-happy-new-year-scottish-new-year-scotland-bagpipes-gif-24291707

[hollow grotto]

guys real question, in the lore page about water devils the page says devils attack anything on the water, but sometimes i see ducks sitting on top of water devils. Would really love an attention to detail D: bruh

[neat juniper]

That's easy to solve
Ducks are something of waterdevils themselves

Everything according to lore

Vile beasts they are

[rose cape]

the ducks have a pact with the water devils

dating back to 1850

[gusty oak]

I call them murder ducks in game... they sound awful!

[noble scarab]

Presumably ducks would be able to more or less escape water devils, but that probably doesn’t translate into gameplay

They’d probably get a duck or two from each flock but the majority would fly

[high stone]

Yeah I always assumed the ducks, like the crows, landed recently from somewhere else and will try to GTFO if a water devil starts coming at them

[rotund ferry]

Really good connection here but Hunt showdown's Mr. Chary is exactly like Elden ring's Dung eater

[empty owl]

i’ve always imagined mr. chary looking like the skinflint in a way, old and neatly dressed but having that sinister and otherworldly undertone

[spiral lynx]

What is the moon and why chary want to destroy it

[ripe inlet]

chary dont want to destroy moon. He want to steal moons power.

[spiral lynx]

what is moon and what is its power

[rotund ferry]

Because Mr. Chary is evil

[timber cobalt]

has anyone heard anything about the proposed ghoul npc

[untold blaze]

It’s a milf

It’s basically just a magic dudette I think

I dunno dude, it’s five in the morning

[lavish mist]

awooga ghoulf mommy

[neat juniper]

Wrong chat
Delete this

[lavish mist]

🤤

[neat juniper]

I tried

[ripe inlet]

we dont know.

[spiral lynx]

fuck

[tacit tulip]

I made the mistake of trying to listen very carefully to the sounds coming from inside the Soul Traps, disturbing and saddening, one audio source what sounds like deep sobbing, and the other more of demonic growling. Has anyone been able to do a deeper dive on the audio and gain any actual dialogue or lore stuff from what's going on in there (inside a soul trap)?

[noble scarab]

We know from the lore pieces that Chary has condemned people to suffer for eternity in there, supposedly even if we destroy it

[rotund ferry]

Again Chary and dung eater are exactly the same

[rotund ferry]

If you're progressing the event I think it's chapter 6 but Skinflint talks about how Mr. Chary performs the ritual to create the soul traps

It's mildly disturbing

Essentially stakes are driven through the eyes of a victim in a very Vlad Tepes esc action to keep the victim in place, then specially prepared clay is used to encase the previously defiled bodies where it then solidifies and after a few days the clay structure forms a giant slit down the back where a mysterious but most likely bloody substance oozes from within. Seemingly the victim in question is alive for the duration of the process.

[spiral lynx]

Okay now i want to kill chary

[celest notch]

Too bad, he's gone

[spiral lynx]

I will find him

[rotund ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-intensifies-gif-14242619

He's evaded Kevin Linus and the gang for quite a bit now

Pretty sure Doctor John and Ozal are also adversaries of Mr. Chary

[celest notch]

Everyone from the lunar Pact is hunting him down so he just dipped

[spiral lynx]

So when we suck the soul trap, do we help the soul or we fuck them up?

[noble scarab]

i think we just fuck them up more

chary has already damned them to eternal torment somehow, and reaving or harvesting souls sounds like we're just further collecting or trapping them

[earnest jungle]

Seeing as it was Doctor John who informed on how to kill Chary I doubt that

[tawdry fable]

Rah

[noble scarab]

I think you two are agreeing with each other Rexli, unless I'm reading that wrong. Dr John is an adversary of Chary and his pact

[celest notch]

Wait, so is the inferno just charys people burning stuff down?

[noble scarab]

other way around, its the lunar people burning herbs and blood to help kill chary

[celest notch]

Funny enough infernal got the fire stuff

[noble scarab]

i suppose thats why they're immune to fire

[celest notch]

Lunar people: burn em to the ground
Chary's chad:

[rotund ferry]

You do know what the word "adversary" means right?

[earnest jungle]

Sorry I misread adversary and advisory

[rotund ferry]

Doctor John, Ozol and Kevin Linus oppose Mr. Chary and what he's doing yeah

Although individual groups like the Blood cult know as "Night of the hunter" are completely on board with Mr. Chary's vision of the world

[wraith cove]

Who the fuck is ozol

[jagged thistle]

Ira Ozols, The Prescient

[spiral lynx]

I like how all of them look like they want to commit bad shit

But good thing they oppose chary

[spiral lynx]

Wait a minute, 'way to kill chary'?

You tellin me that little shit cant be killed with just avtomat?

[celest notch]

Yeah let's say he's been getting powerful

[rotund ferry]

Every villain gotta do that "I can't be killed by conventional means" trope

[noble scarab]

Last time around our boy kev tried to shoot Chary but he can move faster than a bullet, however the moon upped kev’s aimbot, and he shot chary in the leg, but even so Chary still just ran away like the Saturday morning cartoon villain he is

They found out that burning specially prepared herbs somehow weakens him, and kev almost killed him, but ochenkov ripped kevs heart out instead, so Chary peaced out

[neat juniper]

Now here's the real deal

Does chary qualify to be scooby doo villain

[noble scarab]

No, he’s not trying to hide what he’s doing, and he doesn’t wear a mask to be revealed

We need an edit of that meme but for Chary and his gang

https://tenor.com/view/me-and-the-boys-meme-applause-the-boys-gif-14360872

[neat juniper]

Ok but!
'Supernatural'? - sure
Ochenkov's widow has a mask? - check
Doesn't actually kill anybody? -not of anyone important as far as we know

[noble scarab]

Fair enough

[neat juniper]

And are you sure he doesn't try to hide what he's doing?
As we see it from the pov of kevin who has to tell everyone the secret actual bad stuff chary is doing

[noble scarab]

I think if anyone asked him he’d just straight up say he’s trying to steal the moon to kill the sculptor or something

Now he might leave parts out, like how that’ll hurt everyone, or how he burns people alive to make stronger guns

[neat juniper]

Good point, good point

[upbeat kiln]

Man.. If Kevin had a dog.. this whole analogy would have been perfect

[neat juniper]

Do we know everything about kevin

Did he absolutely never say he misses his dog that he left at home with his ma and pa

[rotund ferry]

Mr. Chary has killed a lot of people

[neat juniper]

Did he kill any of main characters?

[rotund ferry]

Those clay structures you loot are essentially defiled corpses

[neat juniper]

You can't prove it

It's all hearsay

We have only seen him reanimate ochenkov and steal kevin's heart many times

[rotund ferry]

Perhaps but one could argue that Mr. Chary not killing anybody is hearsay

[neat juniper]

That's opposite of killing

[neat juniper]

Good point
But you can't make someone not acting a hearsay if there is also no proof of them acting

[upbeat kiln]

The Smooth Operator of the Bayous

[rotund ferry]

Well Kevin sorta can't die and neither can Mrs. Ochenkov

[upbeat kiln]

Mr. Steal Your Heart

[noble scarab]

Mr pull moon snakes out of you

[rotund ferry]

Hunt showdown is post-umbrella corp resident evil

Think about it all the drugs we take as players all the mentions of experiments

All the monsters

It just makes sense

[neat juniper]

Hmmmmm

[rotund ferry]

Hell one of the resident evil games even takes place in Louisiana

[neat juniper]

Ok
No no it does make sense

Ye

[noble scarab]

But yea there’s no stakes in these events, sure they show Chary supposedly doing bad things to people, but we don’t know them and have no connection, we can be like damn he’s kinda fucked, but oh well. Now imagine if he hoisted Redshirt, or Cain up for one of those soul traps

We’d have more of a reaction and a want to get revenge

As opposed to hearing from kev, who we also barely know, that hey this guys bad

[neat juniper]

If he does that i will personally hack crytek and insert myself as next hunter just to kill chary

For legal reasons that threat is a joke

i would never hack crytek

[wraith cove]

Isnt black coat dead lore wise

[neat juniper]

He is

Or at least that's what we were told

He always could've faked his own death and made everyone believe in it

[wraith cove]

Are their any other dead ones i know their was that whole thing w carter a while back that he supposedly survived

[neat juniper]

Researcher might be
But i am not sure about that one

[wraith cove]

Carter secretly had grounded necro before the event even happened

Also whats felis deal in the bayou she just fuckin around? I know carters supposed to be hunting her

[neat juniper]

Felis supposedly is working for aha

[rotund ferry]

Nah Felis has connections to Doctor John

Why does the AHA logo look like UWU?

[noble scarab]

As of now only Black Coat and Billy are dead, aside from the Revenant

Felis is just out being a bayou cat girl

[neat juniper]

Noted
Don't wear a coat in Louisiana and you'll not die

[rotund ferry]

Turncoat ain't dead

[noble scarab]

Not yet 😈

[rotund ferry]

Also which one is Billy again?

He the kid in the green Poncho?

[noble scarab]

This guy

Eye patch, big fur coat

[rotund ferry]

Doesn't black coat wear a fur coat too?

[noble scarab]

He does, his is black tho

[rotund ferry]

Guess they were on a team together and got wiped

Rip fur coat dudes

[noble scarab]

Blackcoat got killed by the Twins cause he killed their father-uncle and their mother

Billy got killed by Sofia cause he was trying to assault Lulu on a hunt

[rotund ferry]

The Wolf twins?

Leonel & Remus Frisk?

It'd make sense that a man in a big black fur coat would be killed by two wolf hunting siblings

[noble scarab]

It’s Fin and Jos from the older lore/Bad as they seem

[rotund ferry]

Interesting

When you said "killed their mother" my mind immediately jumped to Mama Frisk and her boys

What a lovely family too I bet they all howel at the full moon together

Ironically though Remus and Mama Frisk are pledged to Grounded pact and not lunar

[noble scarab]

They’re just there to hunt

Fuck the moon and Chary, all my homies hate the moon and Chary

[wraith cove]

Wonder if the sculptors just sat their like bruh how tf did they weaponize the moon this sucks

[rotund ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-no-moon-obi-wan-kenobi-starwars-death-star-gif-10170550

[real dove]

They are hunting their son, Leonel, as far as I know, so would be weird if they were all on the same team. Lonely lad tried to kill dearest dad and then got his booty kicked and thus headed to the swamp to carve out some space for himself. Unless I read that all wrong lol

[rotund ferry]

Well I see no dad so I guess Leonel succeeded and I'd assume Remus and Mama Frisk are trying to take revenge

Although that story is kinda lame

Be cooler if they were all together in the hunt

The whole lone wolf theme is kinda edgy and tropey

[real dove]

Ah, I always thought Remus (Dire) was dad, not brother, so that's on me. Agreed, I like the idea of a whole family hunting together. We've got so many loners already, be fun to have more trios that are canonically together

[rotund ferry]

My headcanon is that the Frisks are a happy little wolf pack and both Remus and Leonel are Mama's boys 😊

[spiral lynx]

would be more interesting to have a sicko in a family in this sick world

would be even cooler if leonel just want to kill everyone, caught chary in the crossfire and accidentally become a hero

boom 11/10 writing

[spiral lynx]

who is the kid and the nun mentioned in lunar pact event page?

[untold blaze]

The kid is the dude with the whole Billy the Kid getup

And the Nun is that Nun dudette

The one that isn’t a dlc I think

[rotund ferry]

Hail Mary

Her name is Mary Burgess don't forget it

2nd best female skin in the game ong

1st is Prodigal and 3rd is witch hunter

4th and 5th are Llonel heir and gunslinger

Top 5 girlboss skins in hunt

[noble scarab]

how you gonna disrespect lulu and Sophia like that?

[fallen sequoia]

Felis is just chilling

[tardy citrus]

What happened to the mountain man’s hand?

[rotund ferry]

LMAO that's a good one

Sofia is fine I guess I like the whole day of the dead thing she's got going

[celest notch]

Lulu is good, Sofia is meh

Good thing about Sofia is vetterli skin

[spiral lynx]

so the kid is lunar pact?

[noble scarab]

The kid isn’t in this event, it’s our boy kev that runs the lunar pact

[spiral lynx]

then where is he now

[noble scarab]

Kev or the kid? Both are off doing hunt things as far as we know

[spiral lynx]

the kid

since hes the one called out for help to kill chary

im assuming he should be with the lunar

but why not

[rotund ferry]

Lulu is an ex prostitute but still dresses like one she's clowning fr and although Sofia isn't my favorite she has cool skins for her guns and day of the dead is swag also Sofia's story is just that classic vendetta against people who've done me wrong kind of thing which is just classic western attitude

[noble scarab]

My brother in Chary, I think you are confused. The kid mentioned in the recent events is Kevin, the false saint. He’s the one that’s been fighting Chary. The Kid dlc that has the poncho and dual caldwells is a different person and hasn’t been evolved any in these events except in traitors moon as a point booster

[spiral lynx]

i had my suspicion that its not the same the kid, but i was told so

so who is the nun? hail mary?

[grizzled pilot]

Devils advocate

[spiral lynx]

[noble scarab]

Yea the nun is Hail Mary

[spiral lynx]

why is she not tagged as lunar pact

[rotund ferry]

Because she's not lunar?

Kevin Linus (False saint), William Moses (Redneck), Witcher hunter, The concubine, Sgt. Bridgewater are the confirmed pre-pleged lunar hunters that I know of off the top of my head

[neat juniper]

I JUST UNDERSTOOD THAT MY THEORY STANDS TALL
so redneck comes pre-pledged to lunar ye?
Lunars are (theoretically) trying to save the world

And i am fairly certain we didn't see any lore reasons for redneck to be lunar

Or did we?

[noble scarab]

We didn’t

And she’s technically lunar but not a “pre-pledged” Hunter

[spiral lynx]

the one who gather up people to fight for lunar is not a lunar?

thats like saying nixatek is working in crytek office but hes not crytek

[quartz linden]

||What does "auld lang syne" mean?||

question about chapter 15

[rotund ferry]

No Kevin Linus is lunar and he's the one who gathers people to fight for lunar

[noble scarab]

its an old song that is traditionally sung at new years

it means "times long past"

[quartz linden]

Alright, thanks :)

[spiral lynx]

Kevin do that with the nun, it says on the event page

[rotund ferry]

I think you might be confused because personally I have never seen or read anything that indicates that the Nun (Mary Burgess) is recruiting for or belongs to the lunar pact

[spiral lynx]

well what other nuns do we have

[worldly dragon]

the best part of Hunt was when he said "IT'S HUNTIN' TIME" and hunted all over those guys

[upbeat kiln]

no one has ever hunted quite like that

[worldly dragon]

Indeed

[tardy citrus]

I laughed at this longer than I should have

[rotund ferry]

No one:
Mr. Chary & Mrs. Ochenkov in Kingsnake mine:

https://tenor.com/view/outlast-game-scissors-gif-8479647

[worldly dragon]

Me too lmfao

[tired spear]

It's also the title of the last song on the Devil's Match - and that's my yearly lore contribution kek

[quartz linden]

Devils match?

[tired spear]

The latest Port Sulphur Band album

https://youtu.be/2nTg_Uk_S40

[tardy citrus]

I’m gonna say “it’s Huntin time” at the start of every match I play with randoms

[worldly dragon]

Please do

[tall lava]

https://twitter.com/Crytek/status/1611048974965968897

Crytek (@Crytek)

We are thrilled to announce that Richard Dansky, known for contributions to franchises such as Splinter Cell, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, Tom Clancy's The Division, and Far Cry has joined Crytek as Narrative Director for the @HuntShowdown franchise.

Welcome to the team, Richard!

Twitter · Jan 5, 2023, 5:16 PM

[rotund ferry]

Crytek will suit him better than Ubisoft for sure 😂 👏

[icy brook]

The possibility of a coherent story?

[lunar sky]

My reaction to Richard joining crytek

(Loud)

Anyone know why the moon chose Kevin to be its champion

[noble scarab]

i guess kev was there

thats about it

[sinful warren]

So

What's the lore about Necrosis?

[small abyss]

Yes! A good storyline now!

[noble scarab]

Chary fucked about with hive bees and produced the hive bees ProTM MaxTM. They do the same thing as normal bees but in a different jar

but hey the description canonizes our ideas about how the hive poison worked

[sinful warren]

Like the jar in the BP?

[noble scarab]

yea pretty much. there's the normal mason jar thats the default, and then the weird chemistry looking one that chary made

[empty owl]

necrosis' jar looks like something to hold moonshine or scientific chemicals

possibly a beaker of sort

[rotund ferry]

We want it live, so we can see them 😄

[tired spear]

Agreed

[upbeat kiln]

Guys, help me out here. What's the last name of the Bone Doctor? I can't remember

[rose cape]

has anyone heard anything about the proposed ghoul npc

[visual finch]

No, i said a sillies

[timber cobalt]

interesting what ghoul

[real dove]

He's based off the OG Jean Montanet, right?

[upbeat kiln]

Yes. @noble scarab was already so kind to drop some knowledge 😄

[noble scarab]

https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/devil-s-moon-dusk-cries-perchta-while-dawn-whispers

[slate apex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401019644938289153/1060990515555872778/image.png

Is it 1896?

[noble scarab]

yes and no

the maps are solidly set in 1895 in different seasons, with stillwater being spring, lawson being summer, and desalle being fall.

the lore jumps around a lot. its a look back from from a modern day Hunter or researcher for the AHA. so we get a lot of different times around that era.

from 1894-1903

[rotund ferry]

Some could even say that the game is as late as 1911-1916 because of the Avtomat existing

The gun that the Avtomat is based off of is the Joseph Alphonse Huot automatic rifle one of the first ever of it's kind and it made its debut in the Canadian Army during ww1 1916

But since the Avtomat is a mosin conversion and not a Ross rifle the game likely takes place on 1896-1904 when the use of semi automatic and double action revolver pistols began making a popular appearance in the wild west

The game does not take place during the first world War which is confusing because some of the technology in the game would be appropriate for the Era

If we compare the year that the hunt showdown dlc "Spirit of Nian" released which was Feb 11 2021 and we assume that the timeline and events of the current stage of the game are after the year in which the fire monkey fusee came to Louisiana being 1896 it would be approximately 3 years after the zodiac year of the fire monkey meaning the game's canonical year at this time would be 1898.

[tardy citrus]

That’s really cool to know

[small abyss]

Imagine if they game was set in 1868 instead. No automats, flash bombs nitros or other nonsense 🤔

[neat juniper]

Imagine if they game was set in 1868 bc instead.
No guns, bombs colonists or other nonsense 🤔

[rotund ferry]

imagine if the game was set in 2023 where the state of Illinois just banned guns

[buoyant peak]

bruh no way what happened?

[small abyss]

Yes! Way to make sense! Damn colonists!

[rotund ferry]

too many shootings but instead of focusing on the actual problem the administration is focused on gun control

[untold blaze]

They did?!?!?

What the fuck

I’m moving outta here ASAP

[rotund ferry]

I know this isn't the place to discuss it but I should clarify some things

[small abyss]

Probably best to do so in off topic

[rotund ferry]

they didn't ban all guns just semi auto and automatic rifles and if you already own them they won't be taken away from you

[rotund ferry]

not channel wise it's probably not the server to discuss it

[versed wedge]

So the conclusion of the Devil's moon event is that Kevin nearly killed Chary and broke his invulerability spell but died to the Widow and got resurrected again sometime down the line. Chary and Kevin's pact has caused enough ruckus that the AHA formed their own and called for reinforcement. That's it?

[nimble halo]

Wait, we have lore that goes up to 1903?

[noble scarab]

From the event, there’s a newspaper clipping

[noble scarab]

Yea

[nimble halo]

Ah, based. That’s kind of huge as it opens up a lot more new guns that could be brought in to the game

If they are willing to jump 8 years from the “original” start date

[noble scarab]

This is one of the times where it’s a future researcher looking back I believe, so I don’t think the in-game time is 1903 yet

A fellow above figured it was around 1898 or so

[heady tree]

The lore presentation for Devil's Moon is leaps & bounds better than Serpent Moon IMO.

[restive patrol]

Despite all that presented information, Crytek still insists all this is happening in 1895 (Least, based on their process for weapons design https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/zwxoxx/comment/j1z166q/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)

[atomic charm]

Prodigal daughter originally going to be a dude? or am I missing who the character reference is?

[visual finch]

Prodigal son is just an expression in this case

[atomic charm]

Any idea which legendary it refers to?

[visual finch]

I honestly don't know, when playing that the hands of the hunter are from a T1.

[primal jolt]

are there any french hunters? my friend and i want to do a scout and spy from tf2 cosplay team lmfao

alright the rachta z skin has a french last name and a mask close enough

[noble scarab]

It’s not a legendary hunter, it’s William Salter

[tall lava]

Just to avoid any misinformation, it's not a Rachta skin as it was not added for him, he just started using it after it was added 😄

[neat juniper]

doing gorb's work o7

[earnest jungle]

No this is a reference to Charlie Salter the last son of the Salter Family. Charlie left Louisiana to fight the darkness and protect his family from the monsters that lurk in the darkness. But while he was gone his younger brother Charlie was infected with the Sculptor’s corruption and he spread that corruption to the rest of the family.

[earnest jungle]

Sorry my above comment was supposed to be a reply

[rotund ferry]

Or like do we know what they're about

[earnest jungle]

The song are from the Port Sulfur Band who were performing in the Smithfield Saloon when everything went to shit in DeSalle you can actually find a photograph of the band in the Saloon. The two lead vocalists were the only ones who escaped with their lives. After reaching New Orleans they were inducted into the AHA as hunters

[rotund ferry]

Oh sweet. So I assume that's what Its Dark in New Orleans is about

[rose cape]

cant wait for the ghoul perk rework again - hopefully it will stay true to the lore

[rotund ferry]

Ghoul perk rework?

Sounds interesting

That's the perk that gives you health on creature kills

I wonder what else they could do with that

[empty owl]

wait, when have the story mentioned them being inducted into the AHA?

[earnest jungle]

The song It’s Dark in New Orleans is about them traveling to New Orleans to become Hunters

[versed wedge]

Lore wise, Ochenkov's widow should be some form of super zombie Wolverine right? Chary made vital shots from her blood for instance

[foggy sundial]

For some reason I read for instance as, for insurance and I thought the undead have to pay taxes still?

Damn I knew chary was evil he wants us to pay our taxes

[rotund ferry]

Yeah she's basically this ghoulish wolverine

Another one of Chary's mad science experiments gone horribly right

[versed wedge]

Man, image if she was an enemy NPC at full power with huge health and moon-powered guns

[celest notch]

new boss even

[rotund ferry]

In lore then, would she just be unkillable?

What are her lore powers exactly

Also is she like, aware? Or is she just a mindless killer drone

[noble scarab]

she stabs people

and she seems to have free will but follows what chary says because she thinks he'll bring back her husband

that she killed

for him

[empty owl]

she's probably a supernaturally imbued serial killer or at least that's what to go on from the widow's article

[celest notch]

So did the reverend worship "God" or did they have some other entity in the bayous

[noble scarab]

both him and hail mary are "good" Christians

[celest notch]

Isn't the reverend being lunar going against that?

[noble scarab]

not necessarily, they believe kev is sent by god to help them

[celest notch]

So they dont know about the moon speaking to Kevin and shit?

[noble scarab]

probably not

tho i mean kev's died and came back a bunch

might make him holier in their opinion

[versed wedge]

Wonder who is the one calling Kevin the false saint if he's on the side of good

Or at least he thinks he is, poor boy doesn't even have blood on his hands

It is my headcanon that Hunters don't usually die when shot down, the AHA is just too lazy to recover them until this pact businesses forced them to conserve their numbers

Aka death cheat perk, still confiscates your gear and marks though

[noble scarab]

probably chary's guys

[zealous token]

Wouldn't be surprised if somebody under Chary's employ spent time distributing a warning against "The False Saint and his deluded followers" or somesuch

[empty owl]

also the religious imagery that kevin has, although his opening animation does resemble that one famous pose by baphomet though

[neat juniper]

Moon is baphomet confirmed?

[celest notch]

That makes reverend look even worse

[brave seal]

Not sure if this belongs in lore discussion but is the game lovecraftian? It really looks like it with the constant terror, torture and horrors

[grizzled pilot]

Yeah but if cthulhu was a lil dumb

[rotund ferry]

Omg is this a bloodborne reference???

[noble scarab]

No? But bloodborne and hunt have very similar vibes

I wish we could see more crazy bloodborne style weapons tbh

More bomblance, less avto

[rotund ferry]

This was a joke

[untold blaze]

Amen to that

[rotund ferry]

I certainly don't think the entire hunt show down video game is a reference to bloodborne 😂

[rotund ferry]

I'd want to see something like a giant Cleaver or spinning saw blade weapon

[upbeat kiln]

I'm still waiting for my hivebomb trebuchet

and my molotov slingshot

and a bomblance with a chainshot that can ensnare and trap hunters in place

and MY JAVELIN CRYTEK

[noble scarab]

A prototype flamethrower maybe?

Does no damage but burns off bars

[grizzled pilot]

Yeah maybe like the one in bloodborne to go into the medium slot?

[noble scarab]

Exactly

[wispy gulch]

How old is Kevin exactly lore wise?, I didn’t get to participate in traitor moon at all as my pc was in another state and I forgot to read the serpent moon chapters before the event ended (tbh they should have put all the chapters for each event in its own book in the “library” they have that only consists of 3 books but I digress) what I’ve read from the devils moon chapters he seems to not be.. an adult, even though his model looks to be atleast 18 the way he speaks to his parents makes me to believe he’s real young.

[noble scarab]

I think traitors moon said he was a teenager

[neat juniper]

Imagine he is like 6 but getting heart scratched out multiple times does that to people

[noble scarab]

Looked back at traitors moon, he’s 14

[neat juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

^kevin being tortured with no end only at 14 years old

[edgy aspen]

So, I avoided this discussion until I finished the event for story entries. I still don't have a full understanding of t he pacts' motivations. Grounded want's to maintain the status quo, Lunar wants to kill Chary, but INfernal is trying to burn everything down. Is the Infernal group trying to cover Chary's activities? But the burning herbs they are using hinders Chary's abilities?

[rotund ferry]

Lunar pact is actually the one setting fire to everything

Infernal is just trying continue Chary's shenanigans

And Grounded is kinda just there in between it

Ultimately the whole thing is Kevin vs Chary they both just have assets and allies

[edgy aspen]

What is the herb Lunar pact is burning?
Also, is there more info on what the grounded is doing?

[noble scarab]

Grounded people are literally just hunting, they don’t care for either pact, they’re just chilling out and trying to stay out of things. The lunar guys are burning oleander leaves treated with the blood of the innocent

[edgy aspen]

Oh right. Yeaj, thanks aye.

[celest notch]

The ones burning stuff are the lunar people iirc

[primal jolt]

So every hunter is a grounded then??

Or the grounded guys are super cereal about not caring

They formed a club of people who don’t care the most

[noble scarab]

they formed a club

[neat juniper]

So hunters can survive more than your average human, ye
So if hunters have 150 hp, how many hp would average human have

[noble scarab]

50 or so? most people can't shrug off 5.66 rounds

[visual finch]

I'd say something around 75, you can survive a bornheim hit to the chest if it doesn't hit you in any vitals but you'll need hospitalization anyway

[neat juniper]

True, true

[rotund ferry]

Pretty sure your hunter shrugging off 5.56 rounds is just a game mechanic and not actually lore. Some hunters might be more resilient than others but overall each hunter has special abilities but they're not superhuman

[neat juniper]

Nah, we seen that in trailers that aren't gameplay, so it's canon

[upbeat kiln]

They are indeed superhuman. Both in terms of spiritual abilities and healing ability.

[lunar fox]

she's Luz Mala a kid?

i mean in the biography ine the store they said she is, but in game?
She's gonna be smaller or what?

[edgy aspen]

She does look small. Wouldn't a flash bomb be more thematic as the 4th part of the DLC? Or .....
chuckle...... a legendary electric light skin.

[celest notch]

the kid isnt any smaller so

[lunar fox]

yeah but she looks small in the screen

The way she wears the veterli too

i mean

idk

[celest notch]

people lost their shit with cain, i dont think is in their best interest to make a smaller hunter

[lunar fox]

yeah true xd

that's why i ask

and that can be really cheated xd

[celest notch]

they can portrait accurately in the store and such as long as in game it stays the same

maybe she isnt even a kid

[noble scarab]

i mean kev is supposed to be 14

but they wont make a smaller hunter, all the models are roughly the same height & hitbox wise

[neat juniper]

I just like her shininess

[noble scarab]

i like that we're getting more international hunters

could still do with more cowboys tho

[neat juniper]

I CRACKED THE CODE HOW THEY CAN MAKE HER A CHILD AND CONVENTIONAL HITBOX

Apparently on the Patagonia there was a tribe of giants
Tehuelche

At least according to Wikipedia

Well not exactly giants, but they were rather tall people

[rotund ferry]

nerfed him twice if I remember correctly

I don't think I've ever recalled a video game nerfing a skin

[rough ridge]

she looks like a little nightmares gnome

[lunar fox]

bruh true xd

[edgy aspen]

Daughter of decay looks tall, but in gane she's standard.

[ripe inlet]

I think every chacter has same hit box and height.

[visual finch]

correct.

[pastel vine]

can somebody explain the story of hunt showdown because no matter how much lore for monsters I get it doesn’t even explain how they monsters came to be it just talks about random nonsense

[noble scarab]

TLDR Cthulhu turned people into monsters

[celest notch]

basically ^ you can check out hazmatftw on youtube if you want heavy details

[vernal stag]

Evil corruption from a big bad evil being. Hunters get "initiated" into the hunt by injecting some dark magic voodoo stuff into themselves. This injection resists them from turning into monsters and allows them to use dark sight. However, it's not flawless and you can turn into a monster too, which is the lore reason that you can only be in a map for 45 minutes.

[pastel vine]

does the lore ever say who this big bad evil being is ?

[waxen stone]

All hunters have identical hitboxes.
They have one "hunter hitbox" they apply on all hunters.

[warped sluice]

There's a lot of references to an entity called the Sculptor who seems to have an association with insects.

[rotund ferry]

I wouldn't say insects in particular but just creepy crawlies in general

Hives with flies, meatheads with leeches etc

[pastel vine]

So this sculptor entity is it the being behind all the evil?

[neat juniper]

More or less so

[pastel vine]

I see so are the game developers ever going to let us fight the sculptor or stop the evil or are we destined to just keep fighting ?

[neat juniper]

We do know not of that

For them to decide

[noble scarab]

It’s been taken care of by the modern day

We just don’t know how

[neat juniper]

Wait have we got that confirmed??!

Did i miss smthn

[noble scarab]

All of the lore is from the POV of a modern researcher

[neat juniper]

Oh cool, pogchamp

[rotund ferry]

So the Civil War is Canon material in Hunt Showdown

Which means the assassination of the 16th US President Abraham Lincoln also took place

What are the possibilities that the Sculptor resurrects Abraham Lincoln to finish his second term in office?

Also back then it was more than 2 terms for a US president so he could've done up to 3 or 4 if my highschool government knowledge is to be believed

[edgy aspen]

I don't think there is any cases of ressurections of those who have long been dead. Revives occur for Hunters who have undergone AHA trails, or completed/survived the innoculations and then there is Kevin's and Mary Ochenkov's cases with Mr. Chary.

[noble scarab]

Kev gets moon rezzed, Mary might’ve not ever really died, the infected is half a grunt, the revenant is voodoo rezzed somehow

Hunters can be rezzed for a short time after they died

So if Lincoln had been a hunter, and had gotten immediately rezzed, sure, but he was not

[rotund ferry]

Well that's unfortunate but what about grunts and meat heads and stuff? They look like they've been dead awhile

[neat juniper]

Grunts never died, they are still alive just rotting
They are not in control and might even have previous body host's mind still in them suffering
Meat heads were born this way, we don't judge
Armoreds were never alive, if i remember correctly
Hives are well, just a body being used by hive mind also possibly still alive

[edgy aspen]

Hives were pregnant women, and their babies became the hive that took over the bodie.
Immolators, I have no idea. I haven't read their lore.

[celest notch]

Aren't immolators quite literally hell spawns?

I remember their lore mentioning biblical parallel

[edgy aspen]

Oh right, the lore talks a out how an Immolator errupted in the Preacher's parish and that's part of the reason why he hunts.

[celest notch]

Armoreds were alive, iirc they were a regular grunt, but further modified by the sculptor to protect clues

[rotund ferry]

Jesus christ what the fuck

That's like some alien face hugger shit right there

In the aliens comic the face hugger forcefully aborts the baby of a pregnant woman that it latches onto to make room for the alien baby instead

The Xenomorph is literally the definition of non-consensual actions

I love how the monsters in Hunt are so cryptid but also parasitic like something out of a resident evil game

They're so alien and unique from other things you could compare it to though

I guess it's just easier to make the connection to another game or genre because of how unique the creatures really are

[little vigil]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[edgy aspen]

Yeah, the lore of this game is terrific.
The new Hunter La Luz mala is super awesome.

[rotund ferry]

It's both horrific and terrifying but that's what makes it terrific

[feral remnant]

What legendary hunter screams I'm regal and I know it?

[vernal stag]

It was my interpretation that immolators are like grunts or armoreds in that they could have been grunts, but something about them got the sculptor to change them in a different way. In their case, people who had lots of rage and anger.

[restive patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga34IHKdVMU some of this may be non-canon, as they did a retcon of portions of the lore around 1.0 release. This is from early access.

[celest notch]

is this where bad hand died?

[feral remnant]

Most likely

[empty owl]

yup, it is confirmed that the desalle saloon is where the bad hand died and lost his uppercut, which in turn was repossessed by eddie davies (the bartender)

[celest notch]

theres your answer

[wispy gulch]

What’s the lore on quickplay?

[upbeat kiln]

Too much exposure to the corruption leaves the hunters damned - deteriorating and slowly falling apart physically and mentally. The wellspring is the only thing that can save them from damnation. But the wellsprings only have enough spiritual energy to save one hunter from this fate. That's why they fight over it

[upbeat kiln]

According to the lore source, which isn't very credible. The immolator is Jeremiah Byrne, a reverend that through some unknown force, erupted into flames through relentless anger. This story is not reliable though.

[wispy gulch]

Noice

[lunar fox]

ive see before

[still quest]

The first immolation was a priest who was being tortured by the local black hand for speaking out against them. They took him into the swamp to do it, so I assume his rage combined with the sculptor’s influence to make him combust.

[rotund ferry]

Immolators make me want to rip and tear until it is done

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-archvile-gif-19817628

[vernal stag]

Here's a lore blog about it https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/a-communique-for-all-hunters

[devout cedar]

Luz Mala comes pre-pledged in Lunar Pact same as Kevin for example.. Do we know why?

[devout cedar]

Ye idk what is that supposed to mean There is no mention of her in the Event lore

or at least I didnt ntice

[glossy falcon]

wonder if we'll get a lore post or something about her on release date idk outside of whatever her bio means lol

[noble scarab]

Her bio is pretty convoluted tbh

I’m sure it’s the same as the last time we got an event hunter as dlc, no mention of them, they’re just there

[empty owl]

considering that kevin did send some letters to call the help of more hunters internationally, i think she's definitely one of them

or they added the pact as an afterthought, could be both

[celest notch]

Her choke bombs looks so cool

[wraith cove]

In her steam page thing it talks about her following some sort of light that leads her to places and things sort of as a guide through life if i remember correctly during the last event it said something about mr chary getting some sort of glowing orb of light after doing a ritual maybe it has connection somewhere

[rotund ferry]

Reminds me of Aztec death whistle

[rotund ferry]

Just realized the new lady on the block is from Argentina (or Chile)

[versed wedge]

There's a couple of chapters that just sprouts a ton of names of dead people, I assume that some are hunters and used to indicate who took part in the event

[final nimbus]

Is there any place with a collection of all the canon lore bits so far? I want to get into the Hunt lore, but I find it hard to make sure I start the right place/get the full story

[celest notch]

Youtube, hazmatftw got amazing content

[final nimbus]

Awesome! Thanks, man! ❤️

[upbeat kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-you-aww-golden-girls-blanche-devereaux-shy-gif-23876713

[celest notch]

im a huge fan, seen all the videos

[ionic aspen]

What is the deal with that ufo and The monolith easter eggs? Any lore there?

[low radish]

UFO is a UFO, Monolith is a reference to a real world event.

[ionic aspen]

Real world event? Never heard of that one.... Must've slipped my eyes

[upbeat kiln]

I thought the Monolith was a reference to 2001: A Space Odyssey

[celest notch]

could be

[rotund ferry]

There's Aliens in Hunt 👽

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-the-book-of-boba-fett-cad-bane-the-clone-wars-the-bad-batch-gif-24749547

[noble scarab]

its a 2001: A Space Odyssey reference, and the "real" life reference was when a similar monolith was found in the desert in I think Utah, it was some kind of strange performance art peice

I think that was during the pandemic

[untold blaze]

It was

I remember when it happened

[empty owl]

there’s also a crashed UFO near one of the desalle extract too, sooo

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-always-sunny-gif-26054360

[rotund ferry]

The actual Monolith in Utah is actually just an unfinished statue

[steep raven]

Where is PSB?

[primal jolt]

im confused about the lore, how is the archaeologist infernal but from the lore entry she seems to hate the people burning down history?

[celest notch]

infernal arent burning anything

[primal jolt]

judging by the things you use infernal pact perks for, im assuming the infernals are

actually

anti fire?

[celest notch]

lunars are the ones burning stuff down

[primal jolt]

the lunars are burning stuff for their oreander or whatever, the infernals are making the effigies

ok i think i got it thank ya

bit of a paradoxical name lol

[celest notch]

yah

[noble scarab]

Archaeologist is grounded tho?

[celest notch]

she is indeed grounded, i didnt even notice lmao

[primal jolt]

yea i noticed that after lmao

i was looking at the wrong icon on her portrait

[rotund ferry]

🔥 Basically Chary and the Infernal gang are doing nefarious things like covering people in clay, driving stakes in their eyes and reaping their souls. Also making a wild western paranormal wolverine lady and additionally other vile experiments.
🌙 Meanwhile Kevin and his Lunar posse are trying to stop Chary and his evil-doers by burning him out using the magical lean weed flower so they can bypass his invulnerability and ultimately kill him thus ending his reign of terror in Louisiana.
⚖️ The Grounded folk don't much care about the turf war but are caught in the middle of it and while they're probably well aware that Chary is a dubious la creatura they aren't exactly sure of Kevin's intentions either.

That basically sums up the event pacts

[rotund ferry]

When will they do a friggin singleplayer
? Just 4 hours of narrative with a few set pieces then at the end you smash out a boss and retire away from the bayou. C'mon man

[neat juniper]

I like smashing bosses

[celest notch]

you like what

[rotund ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/sassy-gif-25178355

[spiral lynx]

I really want to know what the hell is the moon

Doesnt look like its the thing that appear in the sky at night

[rotund ferry]

The moon is an entity

[silver oak]

so is the actual moon an entity or is it something else

[celest notch]

It seems, she's spoke to kevin

[noble scarab]

The moon is fuckable, it’s canon

[celest notch]

[rotund ferry]

I'm getting ptsd flashbacks from when the internet did stuff to a black hole

[celest notch]

I have no knowledge about this and would like to keep it that way

[noble scarab]

We gotta get hazmat to do a dramatic reading of that lore doc

[lunar sky]

Rip hold on

[lunar sky]

What the moon saw when she saw Kevin

[lunar sky]

But how’d he get to the moon

[celest notch]

He went on a trip in our favorite rocket ship

[rotund ferry]

Are you from the moon? Because your beauty is out of this world.

[lunar sky]

How I imagine it went 🤣

[noble scarab]

Evidently the moon went to him

[lunar sky]

So did it turn into a human 🤣

[noble scarab]

Yes?

It doesn’t specify

https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/The_Traitor's_Moon_Knows_No_Loyalty

The link

[lunar sky]

Ah so it turned into an avatar like being like star lords dad

Contex starlords father turned into a human (he was a sentient planet)

[steep monolith]

Literally me rn.

[lunar sky]

Are you alright?

[steep monolith]

Hell no

[verbal monolith]

he's fine 🙂

[steep monolith]

It ends tonight

[lunar sky]

Why not do you want to talk about it

[steep monolith]

Yes please

Can you help me?

[lunar sky]

I’m not a certified psychologist but I’ll try

[primal jolt]

so kevin linus is actually being told what to do by the sculptor right

[steep monolith]

Why can't I be happy?

[lunar sky]

Let’s go to off topic so we don’t violate rules

[lunar sky]

I think he was corrupted after almost dying i think so yeah your right

[primal jolt]

i mean, he's being told to oppose mr chary by any means necessary, a guy who wants to kill the sculptor, he is routinely resurrected (the sculptor makes clones), and his name is literally "false saint", implying he is not talking to the divine as he seems

also of course the pacts weakened the AHA

[celest notch]

I don't even know anymore, he's probably talking to the moon fr

[rotund ferry]

It's just one big conflict between so many different people and groups at this point

[spiral lynx]

This is very enjoyable read for me

How did i miss this shit

[neat juniper]

Bald

[spiral lynx]

like this?

[neat juniper]

No that's bold

[spiral lynx]

Damn

[spiral lynx]

the end of that moon lore gave me goosebumps

well i'd still side with lunar

i dont wanna die getting stakes through me eyeballs and got crumbed in some random clay

i wanna die because female entity luring me into the water and got sucked into oblivion

with all the horses and shit

[neat juniper]

Mood

[rotund ferry]

Again getting HUGE flashbacks from 2018 black hole chan

[fringe musk]

Can someone explain the event story? Iv just got to chapter 15 I thought this was the end for Kevin but ||Mr chary didn't die||

[rotund ferry]

||Neither of them actually die. Mrs. Ochenkov protected Chary when she falcon punched Kevin's heart after Chary's invulnerability had been compromised and as for Kevin he keeps getting resurrected by the Sculptor because the Moon and the Sculptor are in cahoots possibly.||

[untold blaze]

So from what I’m seeing from what y’all said, this is just gonna keep going on for an uncomfortably long amount of time?

[rotund ferry]

Imagine a fight between a Honey badger and a Wolverine but they both have regeneration and that's basically what you got

[untold blaze]

Oh, so it basically never ends

It’s just two hyper aggressive creatures throwing hands, sleeping, then continuing to throw hands

[rotund ferry]

||Well it could end, Kevin was close to killing Chary if Mrs. Ochenkov hadn't intervened than things would've been different but the conflict continues because both adversaries are still alive and fighting||

[untold blaze]

Okay, so it’s gonna continue into another event so that they can keep making money offa this storyline

[rotund ferry]

||And if the Sculptor was somehow removed from the equation than Kevin might lose his ability to be revived but he still has that connection to the Moon.||

[untold blaze]

||so basically it’s gonna keep going forever until the sculptor dies or it stops making the devs money||

[tardy citrus]

Claeg Grey is a man?

[noble scarab]

That’s the reaper, right? If so yes

[tardy citrus]

Whoa

[celest notch]

The edge lord

[tardy citrus]

Thought it was a woman

💀

[celest notch]

nah, its a dude

claeg grey

[lusty flume]

Man punched a zombie and just went

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-heck-james-franco-the-interview-wait-gif-5394301

[tardy citrus]

?

[lusty flume]

I assumed you bought the skin and found it was man when you meleed and heard man grunt lmao

[tardy citrus]

Ohhhh

I just read the announcement that it was on sale and saw it refer to him as “he”

[tardy citrus]

That would be a wacky interaction

[celest notch]

lmfao this would be hilarious

[rotund ferry]

I don't think it has to do with the devs wanting to make money I think it's more about never ending conflict because yknow then we wouldn't have a game if there was no conflict

[edgy aspen]

Serpent Moon question: Chapter 4. Mr. Chary is pulling small snakes from Kevin's wounds. The lore describes the snakes looking like maggots.
We know from grunts that they have black maggots inside them.

So how did snakes come to be inside Kevin? Is this a new form of corruption, a form that is advanced from the standard grunt style infestation?

Did Chary have some hand in Kevin having snakes in him (From Traitor's Moon event)?

[sinful warren]

What is the lore of the reaper tho

Like, his connection with Lulu

[noble scarab]

He doesn’t have any relationship to lulu, crytek just reused assets in his trailer

[sinful warren]

Oh

Wait, you sure? Theres like a lot of

Lulu's pictures too

[neat juniper]

Yes, that's what we call skill issue

[sinful warren]

Uh uh?

[edgy aspen]

In some of the Liber de Monstrorvm, Tatram mentions, "When I rode with the Sinners."
Who are the Sinners? The Night Acolyte and Night Seer?

[noble scarab]

The sinners are Muslim hunters, I think the only legendary one we have is the viper, the night cult is different, they were actually feuding with the sinners for a time

[edgy aspen]

Oh. So in Serpents moon, that is why Night Seer says to the Viper something like, "We and the Sinners have fought in the past but it is time to put aside our differences."
So, what is the "vision" that the Night Accolyte "sees" that is later refuted by Prescient in Serpent moon.
She says that she realizes his [Night Seer] vision is a lie.

[noble scarab]

The night seer says he wants to stop the apocalypse but he seems to instead actually be causing it

[celest notch]

why?

hes with chary, chary wants to kill sculptor

the world is like shit because of the sculptor

chary is still the "good guy"

just with weird ways

[neat juniper]

We don't know if chary wants to kill sculptor or is using scupltor as an excuse

[celest notch]

i mean the sculpture is still the big issue

excuse or not hes the only one trying

kevin is just simping, probably for the sculptor for all we know

[lunar sky]

I’d simp for the sculptor too, if it gave me a immolator gf, I feel like Kevin got corrupted by the sculptor

[deft terrace]

Hey is it true that hunters take a shot that keeps them from becoming Grunts, which is why every mission has a time limit?

[primal jolt]

it seems like he talks about killing the sculptor even in contexts he doesnt need to lie

like when the only person present is a zombie that cant think anymore

anyway yea im in the camp thinking kevin thinks hes talking to "the moon" but actually its just the sculptor

[fair pecan]

Huh, good point.

How do we know the Moon is a good entity and not the sculptor in disguise?

[visual finch]

Yes, it's me El Signor Sculptore

That's actually a good point tho

i'm slowly catching up with all the lore

[celest notch]

I'll keep saying it, the sculptor is posing as the moon so he can get help from the simps

[noble scarab]

Yes they do, but it’s not exactly the reason for the time limit, and we have at least 2 grunt-ified hunters

Hazmatftw does a great breakdown of it in some of his videos

[sinful warren]

Mr Chary!?

[neat juniper]

Look, man's going through uncertain times
Struggles with identity, all that

[sinful warren]

Uh?

[neat juniper]

Can't judge a chary for being blurry

[sinful warren]

Shudup. Let me be hyped

[neat juniper]

Bald

[cosmic coral]

Can someone explain the connection between the moon and snakes?

[edgy aspen]

In the final chapter of the Serpent's moon story, is the horrible scream Circe, Ozol and Viper hear that of the effigy we're seeing in Devil's moon?

@cosmic coral, Charry had killed Kevin and was cutting him open and pulling snakes out of him. Charry, IIRC, had performed the ritual on Kevin prior. So, the only connection we can see is that the Moon favors Kevin and goves him some powers. The extracted snakes are likened to the black maggots that are found amongst the grunts.
So, depending on how you interpret if the Moon "speaking" to Kevin and a few others is just the Sculptor doing more shannanigans and releasing snakes.
There is also that Charry took one of those Snakes and gave it/imposed it on the Viper who now has a symbiotic relationship with it.
Ibelieve in more of the Serpent's moon story, it says that with changed state of the moon, new breed of snakes have appeared in the Bayou.

[cosmic coral]

Pretty sure that was Mary Ochenkov, considering Kevin's "she's here" comment

[edgy aspen]

Didn't Kevin agree to the ritual toward the end of Traitor's moon?

Wait, .....is Mr. Charry is a traitor o the sculptor?

[noble scarab]

Traitors moon is an arbitrary name and has no bearing on anything, it could be assumed that chary is some kind of traitor to the Hunt but just barely

[grizzled pilot]

The first snakes were born from the moon like the big one that ate jos or maybe fin l can never remember which is which

[celest notch]

kevin is also a kid, he has no idea whats going on truly he just wanted the money

[cosmic coral]

Fin

[rotund ferry]

The snakes are similar to the black leeches you see in the infected creatures but they are different from them entirely. It's likely that the Sculptor the one responsible for introducing the infection to Louisiana is also in league with the Moon.

[limpid bobcat]

so is chary finally dead or not?

final chapter doesn't say much

[noble scarab]

hes not

[celest notch]

He's gone

Gone ≠ dead

[untold blaze]

He’s lurched off to both lick his wounds, and figure out how to kill Kevin

[celest notch]

He was using the moon to power up, but now that Kevin's simping is a bit hard

[untold blaze]

Yeah, the moon lost her favorite twitch sub

[cold idol]

Can you send all the chapters?

[versed wedge]

Disturbing thought but is the Widow a hunter? Be sure if she isn't, that means she isn't sterile and in the hands of Mr. Chary...

[cold idol]

Yes, in Moon Event it says before taking part in Chary's rituals she had ventured into Lousiana many times

[versed wedge]

Whew, don't want another Meathead incident but this time with a Wolverine zombie mum

[limpid bobcat]

I mean, they are available on the wiki, but if you want to I can DM them later

[minor scarab]

i just finished the event and honestly i dont think i undertsood half of the story

[celest notch]

Kevin simp, chary gone, very simple

[minor scarab]

uhhh okay

[cold idol]

What about the twins though

We have Kevin as legendary hunter

Where are the local troublemakers

[celest notch]

Who knows

For all we know the moon is the sculptor in disguise trying to get Kevin to get rid of chary

That's a hell of a good question, who's reviving the hunters, where's this death cheat come from

[rotund ferry]

The Sculptor is obviously not an entity with good intentions but neither is Chary for that matter

I wouldn't say lunar is pve focused, with indomitable + vigor you can get shot and take cover and be at full health again

Chary is humanoid but not human in the sense that he is mortal because he does have invulnerability which is why lunar pact is burning that special flower

Chary tries to seduce hunters into joining him against Kevin and the Sculptor

Kevin recruits hunters on a more personal level ||like he did with Luz Mala when he wrote her the letter asking her to come to Louisiana||

the only hunter he experimented on was Mrs. Ochenkov

and I think Mrs. Ochenkov actually consented to it thinking it would bring her a step closer to seeing her husband again

well in the event story it says he gathers "captives" to make the clay effigies so it's entirely possible that some of those captives he talks about are indeed hunters

some of hunt lore is concrete but I notice a lot of speculation which makes it fun

reminds me of souls games lore

Well characters like Devil's Advocate and Skinflint are all in service to Mr. Chary but they weren't experimented on

That would be souls lore

souls lore is best learned when playing the game and paying attention to the world around you

that's what hunt has too

like reading on the back of the Necrosis skin for the event etc

I would say Mrs. Ochenkov is probably Mr. Chary's best fighter that he has at his disposal. She can tear a man's heart right from the chest and she is essentially a walking paranormal-cryptid wolverine woman

not sure about all that but I know souls lore doesn't present itself forward like other games might. You have to actually pay attention and speculate with whatever is going on

but I'm not really trying to talk about souls lore here I was just merely making a comparison to the nature of which it's games present it's story to hunt

what is your first language?

I will say Elden ring has nothing to do with dark souls except for game mechanics it's story and world are completely separate from Elden rings

just like Sekiro and Bloodborne

but I think the way hunt presents it's story and lore is very similar to how fromsoft does it

but yeah as for hunt I think overall each Pact isn't necessarily "good" or "evil" per say but in fact they're each individual groups with their own agenda which could potentially benefit others but not necessarily everyone so if Mr. Chary gets his way it wouldn't be good for anyone but if Kevin and the Moon got their way it might also be equally as bad for people

[celest notch]

If the sculptor is the moon the lunar aren't hero

[rotund ferry]

I think that the agenda of the Pacts reflects how real people approach situations like nobody in history starts off as a villain or a hero but through choices and actions they ascend or descend to that type of label. It can go both ways too like a villain can do something good occasionally but still be coined a villain and a hero can do something bad at times but still be recognized as a hero. In this case what we know of Kevin Linus is that he is attempting to put a halt to Mr. Chary and his group who are currently perceived as bad and Kevin and his group is seen as the good guys for trying to stop them. Grounded is kind of in the middle of it.

[celest notch]

You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain, that is literally chary rn

[rotund ferry]

It doesn't people are only human and you can't always determine or put a price of villainy or heroics

people do what comes natural to them and sometimes that's right or wrong

I think Chary is doing what he thinks is right and Kevin is doing what he thinks is right

[celest notch]

Like I'm not justifying chary nor calling him a Good guy, but with second intentions or not he's still trying to get rid of the sculptor

Do you know these ways? Why is no one doing them

[rotund ferry]

Mr. Chary and Kevin are both individuals with a purpose and a goal but whether or not whose goal is correct is subjective

[celest notch]

For all we know lunar is doing the sculptors will

[rotund ferry]

so yeah that would be biased because Lunar pact presents itself as righteous and good intentions but Lunar is working for Kevin and Kevin is working for the Moon and the Moon likely has connections with the Sculptor who is in fact the entity who introduced the infection to Louisiana and therefore perceived as bad

wait how is that Nihilism?

[celest notch]

Lunar is not working against the sculptors they just want to get rid of chary, which strengths the theory that the moon is the sculptor

[rotund ferry]

Okay I get what you're saying here but unfortunately that's not how the real world works, sometimes people have to get their hands dirty in order for other people to come out clean

preserving peace comes at a price and freedom is not free you have to fight for it

[celest notch]

Sometimes there's no "good way" out

This isn't a Disney movie

Rather be blind and alive

Well ok, chary dies, or stops doing what he does, who stops the sculptor

[rotund ferry]

I feel like this conversation is slowly degrading from hunt lore and just to basic philosophical rambling so I'm gonna leave it here

have a good day guys

[celest notch]

And who else is doing something

It sure ain't Kevin. Ffs he accepted the ritual just cause he wanted the money

Of course is up to the devs...

They are the ones making the story 💀

Indeed, until then, we work with what we've got

[grizzled pilot]

There was quite a few already and all of them were pretty inhumane bout the whole thing

Crytek has that weird thing where they dont follow up on really good lore for the sake of pushing out new skins and it kinda annoys me

[celest notch]

One problem at a time, once chary stops the sculptor we can worry about chary, as of right now the sculptor is the immediate threat

Bruh

Every single character can have a rise up moment

Ok

[rotund ferry]

Yeah wish lore was more clear

[grizzled pilot]

Imo its pretty clear cuz it moves in chapters
At every given time there is only a handful of relevant characters and the rest just doesnt exist

[rotund ferry]

By clear I mean it's being read-able in game all the time, like why does story needs to be only read-able in battle passes

[celest notch]

Can't you find the stuff on the wiki?

[rotund ferry]

Wiki is out-dated people say, and it's just much confusing to read like that, it would be great if this game had a story book in-game, like weapon & monster books.

[grizzled pilot]

Yeah no reason for lore to be time limited

[rotund ferry]

Agreed

[grizzled pilot]

Not that it makes any diffrence for me

[rotund ferry]

Well as a new player, it made difference for me.

[rotund ocean]

I think these are actually updated correctly

[rotund ferry]

Like had to learn old battle passes to learn current battle pass better

[grizzled pilot]

Besides all the good lore is in the game all the time so l dont really care bout the events

[rotund ocean]

We have the books already! Why isn't past lore in a fourth book

[rotund ferry]

Agreed

[worn trout]

For me, it's the McChicken. The best fast food sandwich. I even ask for extra McChicken sauce packets and the staff is so friendly and more than willing to oblige. One time I asked for McChicken sauce packets and they gave me three. I said, "Wow, three for free!" and the nice friendly McDonald's worker laughed and said, "I'm going to call you 3-for-free!".

Now the staff greets me with "hey it's 3-for-free!" and ALWAYS give me three packets. It's such a fun and cool atmosphere at my local McDonald's restaurant, I go there at least 3 times a week for lunch and a large iced coffee with milk instead of cream, 1-2 times for breakfast on the weekend, and maybe once for dinner when I'm in a rush but want a great meal that is affordable, fast, and can match my daily nutritional needs.

I even dip my fries in McChicken sauce, it's delicious! What a great restaurant.

[upbeat kiln]

This.. times a million

[junior pecan]

All they would have to do to fix that would be to orient the lore towards a broader faction consisting of many noteworthy characters, and then, over time, focus their attention on individual characters, aligning that focus with a new associated DLC or BB cosmetic.

That generates hype for new characters, adds further depth, and justifies the addition of a larger and larger roster of DLC to the playerbase.

Then perhaps conclude that faction’s storyline with a seasonal event offering variants of the DLC so as to reuse assets and also further flesh out legitimized characters.

People who bought the DLC can grind the event if they really like particular characters, and those who didn’t buy it can get later access to the same character in a different form.

Everyone wins, investors included.

[edgy aspen]

Not advanicng lore to push out skins? What is an example of this? Because there is lore that is expanded upon that brings the skins.
Devil's advocate, Viper, Prescient, Circe, Hail Mary, Mary Ochenov, False Prophet, La Luz Mala, all these skins and their gear are in line with the last three events. Sgt. Bridgewater, Hippie Lady, Percha and Wicker lady are the non-event/lore linked skins.
The Bartender and Bad Hand were skins that added extra info to some side characters.
I mean, we could have more lore progression on Lynch, the twins, but then there is the risk that push the events towards a climax that ends up limiting the game without progressibg the time line.
In the last two years since I've been playing, it seems like the majority of DlCs, events and skins all tie themselves into existing lore for the most part.
What are story lines that have gone cold?

[noble scarab]

all of the old lore basically no longer exists

and those characters were shoehorned into the event, rather than made for the events

devils advocate was a standalone christmas skin, Circe was a dlc, Hail Mary was just a rando bloodbonds hunter, La Luz Mala barely has lore and in no way interacts with the event besides being for bonus points

the last event that actually featured the relevant hunters was the native american event

[junior pecan]

Those examples ‘advance the lore’ in the sense that there is information describing them, but they fail to ‘advance the lore’ in the sense that they do not interlink with other elements. They’ve all got tidbits of lore to go with them, and most are mentioned, but never really expanded upon. Really its an issue of duration.

As for dead storylines, good lord, every last thing in ABATS.

[edgy aspen]

ABATS?

[junior pecan]

As Bad As They Seem. The ~second state of the lore for this game. Comprised of most of the Book of Weapons at the time of release.

Was never elaborated upon, just left ambiguous and ambiguously reliable.

[rotund ferry]

https://youtu.be/KoL1GTcRvvg

[celest notch]

man their trailers never disappoint

[rotund ferry]

They really don't

[edgy aspen]

So read through the story of Jos and Fin and Lynch again after now having info from The Moon trilogy.
What if its not one sculptor, but multiple sculptors? One seems to use snakes (Jos, Fin, Charry) and other elements of the sculptor's work is fighting against snakes.
What if it two or more scptor like enitities using humans to fight their battles for supremacy of their flavor of corruption?

[noble scarab]

There are other entities, not necessarily other sculptors tho

Lynch herself is one of these entities and she was pissed the sculptor was trying to take her place

My theory is that chary is a human trying to become one of these entities

[edgy aspen]

What? The Sculptor trying to take her place?

[noble scarab]

Kinda like an Omni man situation, she wanted to invade our world, not it

[drowsy canopy]

Lynch strikes me as totally different beast then the Sculptor... she has far less powers and seems to mostly accomplish her goals with old fashioned manipulation, guile, and gun-slinging skill... If she is an entity of some sorts she is of a different breed to whatever the sculptor is... maybe instead she is simply a 'witch'. Some occultist who has lived so long through hunter blood magic to effectively be classified as a entity of special interest.

[noble scarab]

i think somewhere in BATS it specifically tells us shes otherworldly

[restive patrol]

Its already confirmed there are other entities that exist as in the old Lousiana Event Book (that was removed but is available online, with some of it remaining canon), the AHA had dealth with a "Poltergeist" in 86.

https://huntshowdown-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Louisiana_Incident_-_Pellella_Note

https://huntshowdown-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Louisiana_Incident

[junior pecan]

Retconned iirc

[restive patrol]

Apologies but source? Cause as far as I know, parts of it are still canon (like the one Sinners note), but overall, which ones, we are not sure.

[junior pecan]

No source, same situation as the first iterations, made by old writers that aren’t around anymore, nor was it expanded upon, only removed.

Though the uh, what the hell was it called, Nian entity in china? That stuff is much more recent and proves your point.

[noble scarab]

I think it’s been slowly retconned to be only the sculptor

Sadly

[potent merlin]

I liked that theory posted by I can't remember, but it went like; Lynch is from the same dimension that the Sculptor is. Suggesting they're both of the same "race" but differ in strength, as the Sculptor needs pawns, and just maybe, Lynch ain't as powerful as the big S.
Quite like the idea that Lynch is such a petty pain in the ass that she/it followed the Sculptor's tracks to our world just to be there to mess with his plans out of spite.

Also, is anyone working on a summary of the lore we know isn't retconned etc?

[rotund ferry]

https://youtu.be/KoL1GTcRvvg

In this cinematic it seems like the gray body parts of keving can be controlled by this moon entity

This moon entity seems evil, Kevin probably doesn't know he's working for a evil entitiy and this moon entitiy probably manipulating & using Kevin, after all this moon entitiy choose Kevin when he was a kid so perhaps this moon entity was expecting something like this, if moon entity thinked like childs are more easy to manipulate therefore choosing a kid as his/her ''champion'' in other words her manipulation ''doll'' maybe this moon entitiy knows things about human world a lot maybe this moon entity could be a human as well.

Like this moon entity had so many other hunter choices to choose, but she choosed Kevin in the end.

Kevin being named as ''false saint'' maybe means that the entity Kevin helps isn't a good entity.

Also it would be cool to have older kevin skins, like before his body changed to it's current form

So I'm not sure who's gonna stop this evil moon being, maybe Kevin eventually understand's that he's being manipulated therefore change sides and fight against this moon being

Also since this event kinda showing that these characters making very big moves, like maybe Kevin gonna save these sick lands? And then what happens? Is this just a end story for hunt showdown?

I know this is a old game and I hope it'll stay here longer cuz I just started 😅.

https://youtu.be/z7lZYXKcaOE

Even the teaser name of this event(If I'm not wrong) saying ''it will all end soon'

So if the story of the hunt showdown comes to an end, I wonder what will this mean.

Crysis 4 getting closer probably, and I just hope this wouldn't mean we have to say good bye to hunt showdown 😅, but yeah every game must end one day, so what will happen gonna happen I guess 😄

Well from what I can see about the lore of this game, I wouldn't trust Mr Charry and his pact, grounded pact doesn't seem to have a side so probably grounded pact characters won't be the ones saving these sick lands, I think Kevin and his group & lunar pact characters gonna realise moon is actually a evil being, they are gonna leave their lunar pact, and fight against moon, maybe they'll become a team with Mr Charry till they end the moon, then they'll fight each other probably, or Kevin fights moon and Mr Charry at same time

Although if moon can control the half of the Kevin's body since half of the Kevin's body seems corrupted with moon's magic, then Kevin maybe wouldn't stay in story too long and have a early end

So infernal pact seems to be here with evil reasons, grounded pact also seems to be here with self-gains-interests focused and would do anything so grounded pact probably more neutral and can be good or bad, and lunar pact is more of a good side, even if the moon is a evil being I think lunar pact characters will leave lunar pact and keep being good side

[cold idol]

At this point, I think Hunt's lore is just a paper-mache of unrelated stories

To discuss it is the same as discussing Five Nights at Freddy's lore

[polar fable]

Yeah I agree, it would have been cool to keep the lore around the sculptor and some original characters like Lynch, the twins and others, we had the factions like doctor John’s people, reverend’s people, huff’s people and so on. Now I don’t even understand what’s going on, looks like all this stuff is just made up for the sake of events

[edgy aspen]

Given that there are 67 open positions to apply for at Crytek listed for Hunt Showdown, I doubt Hunt is going anywhere soon.

[shy lynx]

guys wich pact should be Lloronas heir?

[rotund ferry]

Grounded

[edgy aspen]

All this lore about Mary Ochenkov being as stro g as 10 men, with a wail that could make you weep and crazy, could Mary Ochenkov be set up to be a new boss?

[rotund ferry]

Then she wouldn't be the strength of 10 men, she'd just be the strength of 3 supernatural drugged up men

I doubt she'll be a boss she's already a hunter and I wouldn't want a hunter as a boss maybe a boss tied to her, like her dearest husband Petr Ochenkov resurrected by the Sculptor and the moon to act as her advisery since she's infernal pact and sided with Mr. Chary

[versed wedge]

Mary's blood are also vital shots, so she should have a ton of HP if she ends up as a boss. I think canonically she's a raving zombie and not really Cognizant enough to hold guns since just ripped out Kevin's heart in the story

[cold idol]

Where was it?

[versed wedge]

The legendary for vitality shot description in this event and the 2nd or 3rd last chapter when Kevin nearly kills Chary

Now that I think about it, it would be hilarious if as an enemy NPC, Mary is just a reskin of a grunt at first glance but hits like a truck and has more HP than an armored.

[cold idol]

She didn't rip out Kevin's heart

She killed her sick husband and brought his heart to Mr.Chary

[versed wedge]

I checked, the part where she sticks her hand through Kevin's spine and popped his heart is Chapter 7 of the current event

[cold idol]

This event isn't Serpent moon? 🤔

Then I didn't read it yet

[rotund ferry]

Spoiler alert ||they didn't end it lol||

[upbeat kiln]

But Kevin did manage to die a lot. So I guess that goes in the win column

[tame jolt]

this event is serpent moon

[rotund ferry]

Kevin just gets resurrected for the millionth time and Ochenkov keeps bailing Chary out of trouble

[spark pasture]

What exactly is the Moon? Was this ever disclosed?

Would love if the game took a Lovecraftian approach and made the moon this eldritch god of unfathomable (for humans) agendas, that happens to be helping humanity now but we're never sure what's the catch or if it's really a good thing. You know, like in Bloodborne.

[edgy aspen]

Isn't that kind of what is in place now?
The moon is speaking to multiple people and driving some insane, while giving others powers and forming cults. Or is it just distributed mass psychosis? 😉

[noble scarab]

We don’t know, pretty much we just know she fucked a dude and then spoke to kev

[rough ridge]

she fucked a dude?

the moon? the moon fucked a dude? the satellite moon that is 2,159 milesmiles long fucked a dude

[noble scarab]

Yes

[noble scarab]

https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/The_Traitor's_Moon_Knows_No_Loyalty

[rough ridge]

i always assumed he was just being mindfucked

i also hate that story, its not very well written

[noble scarab]

no recent lore is close to being well written

[icy brook]

^

[restive patrol]

an understatement even

[rough ridge]

really shitted the bed tbh

[upbeat kiln]

girls just wanna have fun

[neat juniper]

Feminine urge to be a 2159 milesmiles long rock

[upbeat kiln]

did you just fatshame the moon

[neat juniper]

I stated pure facts according to the guy before the guy before me

I plead not guilty

[upbeat kiln]

lol

[rotund ferry]

These moons ain't loyal

[lavish mist]

not gonna lie I’d bang the moon

no hesitation whatsoever

need that lunussy

[rotund ferry]

says the grounded player

[noble scarab]

maidenless moonless behavior

[rotund ferry]

Ranni nor the Moon will have anything to do with you

[rotund ferry]

So is Devil's Advocate a misogynist?

https://youtu.be/z7lZYXKcaOE

At 0:27 he elbows Pvt eye for seemingly no reason 😂

How did I just now notice this wtf?

[noble scarab]

He’s just a bit of a troll I think

Or maybe doesn’t like the Pinkertons

[potent merlin]

based(?)

oh shit lol hadnt noticed that before

[rotund ferry]

Hitting women isn't based

I mean if I hit a woman my dreams of getting pampered by a 7ft tall soft dom mommy tomboy gf are out the window

[potent merlin]

If I had me a madam built like leanbeefpatty to spar with, then im hitting a woman

least she can let me do seeing as she gonna be crushing my head with her thighs later

[rotund ferry]

Very true my friend

But still I'd rather avoid hitting a woman

Especially if she's built like she's gonna execute me by Snu snu

[cold idol]

Scrooge there didn't follow firearms safety protocols

[spark pasture]

Thank you for this. Your post sent me on a journey (of 15min haha) to find all lore pertaining to the three "Moon events". Despite the sometimes cringey writing, I really like the macabre and lovecraftian tones, and wish I had followed from the beginning. Also, after knowing Kevin Linus' background, I came to appreciate unlocking his skin. The boy is badass.

Is it possible to acquire the "Dalai Lama" skin (serpent moon event) now, or sometime in the future? Do they ever become available again?

[noble scarab]

They should become available again, probably for blood bonds

Or a quest line

[cold idol]

They said all skins will be unlockable always

But it's far easier to get them on events

So, Grounded pact is all the people who grew tired of Lunar and Infernal pacts' shit?

As in they don't know that Mr. Chary is the big bad and Kevin is the goodest boy

🤔

Judging by trailer, Redneck is in the Moon pact?

[noble scarab]

Grounded just want to hunt

And yes redneck is in the lunar pact

[rotund ferry]

I'd like to think Redneck only joined lunar because Circe Elias and Alaz are also lunar

[cold idol]

Mary seems to be quite powerful

But what about Kevin?

Now that he's half black, does he have an N-word pass?

[cold idol]

Too bad Dr. John aint going to let his newly found big tiddy goth gf go

[rotund ferry]

his skin is more blue

Kevin Linus is what would happen if Floch Forster and Warrior-poet Vivec had a child

[cold idol]

...

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-john-wayne-get-the-fuck-out-gtfoh-gif-20753227

[rotund ferry]

He's got his dad's skin and his dad's hair

Even the title "False Saint" is fitting since Vivec was one of the false gods of Morrowind

this is canon to me now

[cold idol]

https://tenor.com/view/new-vegas-god-fallout-we-cant-expect-god-to-do-all-the-work-gif-21038212

[lunar sky]

“I survived because the fire inside me burned brighter than the fire around me” is cannon now because of the infernal pact 🤣

[cold idol]

None of you are free of sin

[lunar sky]

Is that the old joke from 8 years ago 🤣

[cold idol]

This isn't a joke, hand over your skin

Anyhow, does anybody have winfield vandal striker lore?

[rotund ferry]

Cain likes sharp things

[noble scarab]

All the Winnie lore is pretty much about lynch and the phantom

I think some of it is BATS as well

Should be on the wiki

[cold idol]

Winnie vandal is missing

[lunar sky]

What skin my nitro express skin that has little lore in it

[clear dagger]

Good Lore

[glad lake]

The lore in this event is a lot lighter then the previous one ngl

[rotund ferry]

wdym light?

[cold idol]

Bad Lore

[glad lake]

Previous event was a lot more narrative heavy whilst this event's lore is mainly newspaper clippings

Also I really didnt like the ending of this event

This is supposed to be the end of the moon saga but Chary being gone is not explained at all

[rotund ferry]

I kind of like the idea of everything in hunt being mysterious, the year is 1891 and technology is rapidly improving. The once wild west is quickly becoming not so wild anymore, however with the introduction of the infection a new frontier has been laid out before us. We are now faced with horrific monstrosities beyond our compression as well as other people looking to take advantage of a bad situation. We use what little information we can gather to delve into these new environments and bring the fight wherever it may lead us.

To me that is what hunt is

[empty mirage]

I like funny 6 iron 🥰

[vernal stag]

I think it was bad form to have the Viper be such a big part of the story last time only for them to disappear.

[glad lake]

Same

Lots of unfinished character arcs

[gritty canopy]

Is there a website, a google doc or something that I need to read as an introduction to the lore?

[neat juniper]

There is youtube channel "hazmat ftw"
Pretty huuuge lore and very good storytelling

[gritty canopy]

Thanks, they seem to have a playlist for new Hunt players too, that's neat. @upbeat kiln I see what you did with the Freeman's stage by the way 😂

[upbeat kiln]

Freeman's stage? 😄

[gritty canopy]

Your banner on Youtube is from a fighting game. And the stage itself "belongs" to a character called Freeman

I thought you did it on purpose since Freeman is a serial killer in that game

[upbeat kiln]

I honestly had no idea. I just thought it was a dope background haha but that adds an unintentional layer of depths to my banner haha

[gritty canopy]

I saw you were listening to metal music when I clicked on your profile, and the character also listens to metal. His special moves are references to metal bands, so that's even more spot on I guess haha

[upbeat kiln]

That's hilarious! And yes. I love metal. I'm enjoying "The Unforgiven" by Metallica this very moment 😄

[pearl abyss]

Imma be real and say the lore of hunt showdown is interesting but I feel like them explaining it more kind of show how poor it is.

[rotund ferry]

So I mentioned earlier how hunt's lore excels at the whole "mysterious new and unknowable frontier" kind of vibe

similar to Subnautica the 1st game was so much more fun for me because I knew absolutely nothing about the world

One you know everything there is about a game and it's lore it kind of falls off the fun factor

[empty owl]

i think its vague on purpose, mostly to keep the allure of the mystery and we’re also dealing with unreliable narrators as well

[noble scarab]

Also the fact that writing quality has fallen off a cliff

[pearl abyss]

big time. With the newest event the writing seems all over the place and with a lore based around nothing really being known where honestly your headcanons can basically be canon for all you know already works better.

[manic imp]

yeah legit 3 things happened in the entirety of this events story

[rotund ferry]

Didn't a writer at Ubisoft just sign on with Crytek for hunt? Not sure what game they would really wrote for but if it's Ubisoft I can probably take a few guesses why the writing has declined

[heady tree]

Agreed. That "conclusion" to the Moon trilogy wasn't very conclusive. As far as I remember Kevin was ripping out Chary's heart but then Mary ripped Kevin's out from behind.

I thought the epistolary type of story telling for Devil's Moon was a lot more enjoyable compared to Serpent Moon but there really wasn't much material... It added to the "atmosphere" but not to the story.

[heady tree]

The requirements for that position were over-the-top. I think Hunt's lore would be better completely overhauled at this point, a fan with good descriptive writing skills and a sense of foreshadowing would probably be better than a video game franchise narrator.