lore-discussion

[tall vigil]

What’s the difference between Voodoo and Hoodoo?

[upbeat kiln]

You never cease to amaze @earnest jungle

[noble scarab]

It’s kinda a regional and cultural difference, with some varying practices. I’m sure Rexli can expand upon that tho

[earnest jungle]

Hoodoo is a lot more decentralized, far more secretive, and is a closed spiritual practice. Not just anyone can practice Hoodoo you need to have come from a family that has practiced Hoodoo because most of these traditions are passed down along generational lines to protect Black communities from white supremacy. It is explicitly a spiritual practice by Black for Black Americans

[tall vigil]

Lit! That’s really interesting. Are there any major or known Hoodoo families?

[earnest jungle]

Again it's not a centralized practice, you learn Hoodoo from your parents and grandparents and from your communities and these communities tend to be pretty secretive due to the oppression of Black Spiritual Traditions.

[icy brook]

Devils moon is going to be quite the lore drop, I have a good feeling about it

[grizzled stream]

Since it's confirmed now that the thing we're trying to kill in Devil's Moon is Chary, I think there might be a possibility that Chary's dealings with the supernatural might have gone wrong and corrupted him into a fifth boss, if he didn't undergo that transformation willingly.

[icy brook]

I’m hoping we finally get the resolution of Kevin Linus’s story

[high stone]

I believe Kevin is returning to his home planet

[thick socket]

The moon.

[still quest]

How long have we been doing his story? I have a feeling that serpents moon wasn’t his first appearance.

[restive patrol]

going to be running on 3 events, he first appeared in the Traitor's Moon event.

[rotund ocean]

Chary was doing his rituals and Kevin was watching in Traitor's Moon. In Serpent's Moon they clashed and ended up in Kingsnake Mine. In this one, the teaser says they figured out how to kill him so hopefully we can move in

[high stone]

Move on*

[opaque jetty]

Is there a website that has lore centralized to catch up?

Oh lots of pins in here, nice

[little lake]

Did anyone ever compile the snake moon lore in a doc?

[noble scarab]

It’s in the lore channel somewhere, I’ll edit my reply with the link once I find it

Traitors moon link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PiIvWOL7xCC2Rjms1GicXh5Ptap8lk0gVXKmEe_iO1A/edit

[little lake]

it oughta get pinned :v

if you find it though, thanks

I missed out on the last one lmao

[neat juniper]

@lone maple
Pin pls

[noble scarab]

The traitors moon one is pinned, but I can’t find one for the serpents moon

I know @upbeat kiln has a series of readings that was the serpents moon lore, or maybe the traitors moon

[icy brook]

Thanks for posting

[foggy sundial]

Devils moon will be us shooting at the moon and killing it because it fucked our husbands

[thick socket]

Moons haunted

[jagged thistle]

*loading an uppercut an heading back to the bayou*

[tardy citrus]

What gun is the uppercut based off of?

[primal jolt]

The revolver 😎

[idle pond]

Walker revolver

[tardy citrus]

Oh😯

[idle pond]

Which is funny because the walker didn't used shell ammo it used black powder and so forth

[tardy citrus]

Are there any other pistols that resemble the uppercut from that time period?

[idle pond]

Not that I can think of

[idle pond]

Here they are

[tardy citrus]

Hmmm

Yeah

I can see the resemblance

That was probably the hardest hitting pistol in its day?

[restive patrol]

was the most powerful handgun in the world until the advent of the .357 magnum in the 1930s

[idle pond]

Og hand cannon

[tardy citrus]

But the hunt one is slightly different in the bullets it fires(black powder)?

[restive patrol]

the hunt one still uses black powder, it's just that it uses metallic cartridges through a cartridge converted cylinder, rather than paper cartridges/loose powder and ball that the walker's were issued with. Problem with converting walkers to cartridge conversions is that the open top design is quite weak, meaning that for it to be able fire cartridges safely, the powder load needs to be downgraded to around .45 colt (medium ammo) or you loose one round in the cylinder to counteract the metal strength lost from boring out the chambers to accept cartridges.

The one ingame is a fictional design that uses .45-70, real world walker cartridge conversions calibers only go up to .45-60 black powder cartridges

[tardy citrus]

Okie

Thank youuuu

I was talked my about this with a friend

But we didn’t really know anything bout it

🙏🙏

[nova timber]

Hello everyone.
Can anybody explain to me who this Mr. Chary is in a few sentences?
Do we even know what he looks like?

[tardy citrus]

I don’t know of any pictures of him

But he was an associate of dr Huff I believe

(Maybe friend?)

And when Huff died he kind of took over the AHA

But he also does some demonic tomfoolery

He takes hunters and gets them to sacrifice when they cherish most

[high stone]

A “magic-boxed” character created for the special game events.

[rotund ferry]

Does anyone know where i can find a base knowledge of the complete lore of the game

[tardy citrus]

HazmatFTW’s YouTube channel

You can find lore on basically everything about the ai and main story as well as serpent moon

[rotund ferry]

Appreciate it

[ocean mist]

Also there is currently a split in the AHA

Chary hasn't been very popular with some people also Serpents moon proved that Chary may not be on the up and up either

So there is a split between the AHA purist (Pro-Huff) and the New Ideology (Pro-Chary) And that is pretty much Crytek giving us a reason why the Hunters kill each other

Also something that isn't explained to us is apparently there are MANY BRANCHES of the AHA and some might actually actively hate each other and are in effect at war with one another

Prime example of this is The Witch Hunter is from the NY Branch of the AHA and apparently they are not on the most friendliest of terms with Chary

In fact all during Serpents Moon her and Hail Mary where actively hunting Chary down to kill his ass

[quartz linden]

So who do we work for? All of the above?

[rotund ferry]

Basically yeah

[high stone]

Unclear

[untold blaze]

Are hunters that are batshit insane like the Devils Advocate, Caine, Reaper, Monroe, etc. Are those ones just independently operating? Or are they allied towards any specific part of the AHA?

[icy brook]

I think all the hunters we would deem crazy are just in the swamp to kill people or eek out a living without doing traditional work

So they’re just free agents

[high stone]

Monroe seems like he’s the sole survivor of a fire (massacre?) at the Asylum in Jackson (LA??) run by Huff Jones jr. He also has a gnarly scar running vertically down his midsection…so between that and having the “gift” of Dark Sight, it seems like he may have been the victim of some experiments in Jackson. He may know some things Huff or his associates don’t want getting out, so he’s probably also a sought after fugitive. He’s probably part of a longer overall story dealing with this whole Louisiana ‘incident’, but I don’t think these guys get together at the country store after a hunt.

If he’s trading in bounty at all, it must be through some shaded contacts who are in the know about the AHA in the area.

I think guys like Devil’s Advocate and Reaper are honestly less legitimate novelty skins made more for the players amusement, and less for an actual story to go along with the game.

Caine could definitely be an HP Lovecraft style “lost-his-fucking mind-and-humanity” character while struggling with the supernatural problems in the swamp, but I bet he’s not walking into an official AHA Lodge to pick up blood bonds and huntbucks either

Probably a lot of stealing, scavenging, and campfires with Henry Monroe and Caine

[untold blaze]

I agree wholeheartedly

Thank you for clarifying though my man

[tardy citrus]

Is the Huff that was the head of the AHA and later killed by Lynch the same as Dr Huff jr?

Or does he have a son?

[noble scarab]

Monroe became a hunter after a failed attempt to take his own life, after years of torture and experiments by huff, he’s probably somewhat sane,
Caine is fully nuts, he’s possibly the youngest Desalle brother,
Devils advocate seemingly just enjoys cosplay and murder
The reaper has his memory issues and psychotic issues
Lone wolf is probably on cain’s level of insane tbh

[noble scarab]

Same person

[noble scarab]

The NY branch of the AHA got screwed over by Huff/Lynch, they got sent a bad batch of the serum which turned them all into zombies

[high stone]

Whoa! This is interesting, where’s this from?

[icy brook]

I believe the Christmas event mentioned it

[high stone]

Hmm

[noble scarab]

https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Accounts_Received_the_Adventures_of_Timothy_Stone_Part_1

[high stone]

Ty Tib!

[regal trout]

So I saw this in a previous thread but

Is it true there's only one meathead and it's just the sculptor cloning it

The only meathead is the one we read about

[tardy citrus]

Ig the variants are just clones that picked up different weapons too then?

[restive patrol]

likely, this video is from the old lore, but I believe most of it is applicable, as it is mentioned in either the spider/grunt lore that grunts act as basic "matter" for the Sculptor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga34IHKdVMU&t=20s

[noble scarab]

Pretty much, yea, there was only the original, but the Sculptor basically turns grunts into them now

[thorn owl]

I heard the Sculptor is a pretty swell guy.

[high stone]

Man, I wish they’d come up with something better

[severe jolt]

someone also shared this with me, but i started off on wiki pages, reading the documents available through the game. Hazmat's videos are good, but I still recommend the diocuments too
https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/d6qhmp/beginners_guide_to_hunts_lore/

[tall vigil]

Gentlemen, we’ve a traitor in our midst!

[upbeat kiln]

Tar and feathers? Or.. Ants and honey?

[tall vigil]

Honey, and chuck ‘em at the nearest Hive!

[neat juniper]

I was about to suggest antidote and leeches

[high stone]

“Y’know I heard the Sculptor is a pretty swell guy..”

[thorn owl]

Hey delete that pic of me, I don't want my personal photos out there.

[primal jolt]

is the sculptor cute?

[neat juniper]

If you squint hard enough he might just stop being one

[icy brook]

https://youtu.be/Z1wOOKTLcl0

It’s nice to see the Krag, what a perfectly unique weapon for the Hunt era, unfortunately the model in game has the mag cut off engaged

[restive patrol]

I mean, didn't the earlier krag iterations have it so the mag cutoff is in the upwards position? This is a model 1892, not the 1898.

[icy brook]

You are correct, my Krag is an 1898 so it operates reverse to a 92

You learn new things every day

Honestly a downward disengage is more intuitive to me

[smoky jay]

Ok just saw the new trailer, which of the three factions canonically supported the first KKK

[visual finch]

There are no mention of it, so my guess is none.

[tardy citrus]

Were the krag and the base Springfield in game actually manufactured by the same company?

Or like Springfield armoury

[smoky jay]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-its-over-over-blade-runner2049-blade-runner-gif-24854081

[visual finch]

We'll have to wait for the Krag lore i think

[tardy citrus]

Ah

[smoky jay]

i dont know the actual lore at all, when does it diverge from the common timeline, post civil war?

[tardy citrus]

Do we know what gun it’s based off of tho?

[visual finch]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krag–Jørgensen my guess

[tardy citrus]

Oh

So

That’s not related to the Springfield

Irl

[visual finch]

The world history is the same as ours, just with an hidden layer of occultism and weird event that - for what we know but i may be wrong - didn't have an actual impact on our history

[tardy citrus]

But In-game it is

[visual finch]

It's the precursor

[smoky jay]

ah i see, thanks for the answer.

[icy brook]

They were both manufactured by American armories as standard issue, so in essence yes

[tardy citrus]

Ohh

Ig yeah

That makes sense

[icy brook]

The Krag replaced the trapdoor rifle we now have in game in 1892, I hope that clears things up

[tardy citrus]

Ye

I didn’t read far enough before

[noble scarab]

Just cause I know it’ll come up later: here’s the hunters in each faction/pact:

Infernal; penitent, reaper, devils advocate, Hardin, night acolyte, night seer, revenant, and Scrooge (can’t recall his name atm) and the currently “unknown” Hunter

Grounded; new hunter, Elise, Teche wraith, the wolf parents, and either the infected or black coat (he should be dead)

Lunar; Circe, new hunter, death’s herald, Lulu, the prescient, Mary,

[restive patrol]

not company, a military arsenal "Springfield". so yes

[primal jolt]

@ripe ravine iirc every boss is a clone based on an original

but someone who knows more than me can dispute

[ripe ravine]

Interesting

[primal jolt]

the original assassin is just a dude whos had magic powers for a long time, that the sculptor thought was cool and decided to make its own copies of

(again i think, could be wrong)

[tardy citrus]

I believe you’re right

The sculptor brings them back

[high stone]

Boo

[tulip dome]

the regular springfield may as well be manufactured by springfield armory company

[neat juniper]

Or by idfk
Texas' toilet paper manufacturer

[hazy sage]

I vibe more with the Moon, but the self-rev on Grounded is gonna be a game changer and probably the most used unless it's got some prequisite for being able to revive yourself

I wonder how the different groups lore will be told though, if at all

[jagged thistle]

the necro trait will be consumed after use it seems

[hazy sage]

Ahhh

[wispy creek]

I'm trying to write a story based on hunts universe, where a hunter is killed in a gunfight along side a boss, but in a freak accident the hunter is the one who goes through the banish ritual instead of the boss

The sculptor, seeing a human is being banished decides to add fuel to the fire and take a part of the hunters soul , but gives them some ability instead

This doesn't need to be crazy lore accurate but I want to give the hunter an interesting but not overpowered ability

The sculptor basically uses the flesh of the boss to make a body for the hunter, giving them this monster like apperance

The bone doctor will play a large role in finding the hunter giving him shelter as the bone doctor could sense the hunters connection with the dark arts

I thought it could be funny if the main characters abilitiy is just actual plot armour

Where the plot armour is his plot armour, he's basically turned into this half human/half armoured so he's incredibly durable and has to take an insane amount of bullets to kill

I've thought of other abilities like clairvoyance or even being able to manipulate the monsters of the Bayou

OH maybe I can give him the abilities of the boss he was banished with

So if he died with the assassin hed be able to go into bug form and stealth attack hunters

That might be the most interesting ability

[lapis thunder]

Go for it, sounds fun!

[upbeat kiln]

That sounds really interesting :))

[wispy creek]

What I would do to hear my story from your voice xD

[jagged thistle]

Interesting fact, the new DLC hunter, Frau Perchta is inspired by a fairytale and legend of the Alps. Where a shapeshifting woman, named Perchta (or sometimes Berchta) sometimes appearing as a beatiful woman (as white as snow) or as an old hag that punishes those who did bad deeds

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perchta

[fickle nexus]

This Perchta is way more creepy than the one in game tho

[jagged thistle]

Grimm's tales are generally WAY more creepy than you think

In Hunt's lore she "only" makes garlands out of innards and strings them about. Could've been way worse

[upbeat kiln]

@ripe sorrel But it's the hive 😄

[ripe sorrel]

I like the hives lore

My favorite is the butcher

Just the idea of a mad man finding a meathead and just thinking to himself hmmmm

Easy money

[jagged thistle]

hmmmm

pig head

make biiig thing

[ripe sorrel]

Yes

Bigger=better

[neat juniper]

Hazmat likes milfs canonically now

[icy brook]

Hazmat lore deepens

[upbeat kiln]

Always was

https://tenor.com/view/kid-eyebrows-eyebrow-flirting-flirt-gif-25851917

[neat juniper]

But now it's canon

[foggy sundial]

What’s your guys favorite boss

Personally scrapbeak cause of his lore just some unfortunate dude

[upbeat kiln]

The spider. It's such a sick and macabre story. And I love it

[tardy citrus]

Scrapbeak too probably, he really feels like a “dammed soul”

[neat juniper]

Mine would be assassin
Because he is underrated scrapbeak basically speaking

[empty owl]

mine would be the butcher because of how hilarious and ironic the taxidermist's death is

[primal jolt]

butcher cause hes chill and easy to kill

[buoyant peak]

does anyone else wanna nibble on felises toes or waht

or am i just insane

(i am clinically insane)

[neat juniper]

you just gave an answer

[high stone]

Do you guys think every time you kill a boss and banish it, that it’s a clone of the original boss, some infinite multiverse re-living of the first time a boss was killed, or that it’s a video game and that’s how it has to happen (to be able to continue playing the video game)

[neat juniper]

Clone
Perfect recreation

[torn schooner]

man a mother nature hunter would be really cool

[untold blaze]

There is one I think

The hippy antler chick with the makeshift ghilli suit

[noble scarab]

we have at least 2 plant related ones, mama maye and the aforementioned owl lady

[torn schooner]

No she believes that the blood should return to the soil

[untold blaze]

Still hippy shit

Closest you’ll get to Mother Nature besides Mama Maye

[torn schooner]

I want someone that strictly kills for Mother Earth it’s be cool

Maybe using vines and dirt as clothing

[empty owl]

daughter of decay has to be the closest

she did buried her family to grow corn

[torn schooner]

Yea but it feels more cannablistic than for the earth

At least to me

[neat juniper]

You are looking at that from wrong perspective
She did not kill her own parents and buried them in garden because she wanted to eat what came of them
She just made a sacrifice to mother nature so mother nature can help her survive

[untold blaze]

She worships Mother Nature in a perverse fashion

Her weapon entries state that she hopes that if she dies and bleeds out, then she hopes her blood will nourish the soul

[quartz linden]

Oh, is Mr Chary gone now?

[heady tree]

It is an Event focused around his life-work... so let's see.

I kind of have the feeling that whatever happens it might tie-in Mr.Chary somehow creating the new Boss creature.

[empty owl]

wherever he is, considering what happened post serpent moon he's definitely up to no good

[foggy sundial]

Nefarious deeds

I can’t wait for Mr chary to be revealed as the president and has been planning all of this just because he thought it would be fun to mess with the bayou

[limpid bobcat]

I wonder what will happen after the moon saga

[limpid bobcat]

he will be

[icy brook]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-squidward-shocked-squidward-tonight-tonight-squidward-shock-gif-23057510

Devil’s moon event when God’s sun walks in

[noble scarab]

i still think it'd have been more interesting and make more narrative sense if Chary had been the head of the whole AHA rather than just somehow slinking into the Louisiana position

[foggy sundial]

“Now Mr Chary as gots to be leader of the AHA” the hillbilly continues this rant until being put into the quiet corner

[thick socket]

Daughter of Decay moment

Banger skin

[jagged thistle]

Daughter of Decay is indeed a banger

I main her

(at least until Perchta drops)

[wispy creek]

based redpilled and quite frankly stronger than any avto player

[umbral hearth]

So can anyone explain to me the lore of hunt ? What actually caused the people to turn into unhinged abominations ?

[wispy creek]

That is a massive massive rabbit hole one can't explain in a discord chat, this handsomely voiced @ HazmatFTW#5608 has amazing videos on hunt lore

https://youtu.be/zd_FajaGiFM

[umbral hearth]

Thanks a lot lad

[plain zenith]

Just in case you're interested, you can find on the fanart channel my Hunt showdown comic's, I've tried to be lore accurate as much as possible, still having some fantasy with what could have happened just before the AHA started crumbling. Let me know if there is some obvious mistake in the lore! #fanart message

[jagged thistle]

Funny goat woman gang

[empty owl]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/905456693738094692/1050080983342395494/yr3rq4amsb4a1.png

nagant hatchet when?

[tardy citrus]

This would be one of the guns ever

👍

[thick socket]

Samesies, banger skin

I hope they bring back the blood bonds with skin DLCs cause god would I instabuy Perchta if it had 1000bb thrown in too

Speaking of blood bonds, what’s their lore? Xd

[noble scarab]

assumedly its an in-universe currency, even used outside of the AHA (if the ad they included for the vapor stuff for the native event is canon)

[jagged thistle]

Dude same, 1000 BBs with a skin would be so good. But I thought they stopped doing that ?

[thick socket]

They stopped with the starter edition iirc? But it’d be so good for them to bring it back this time for the event

[jagged thistle]

Yeah, they even took out the 1000 BBs out of the Legends of the Bayou DLC recently

But we can hope

[humble ridge]

Hi! Did you make any updates so far?

[lunar fox]

I've ask in reddit :

https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/zit4zb/please_reddit_whats_this_weird_intrusment/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[bright cipher]

I replied.

[fossil flame]

No, but thanks for reminding me

[upbeat kiln]

Any biologists here? :))

[visual finch]

This question coming for you create a bit of hype

[foggy sundial]

Biology more like it bleeds it dies it don’t bleed it burns simple as

[stuck sluice]

So, what exactly is the Sculptor? Is he just some eldritch god-like being, or is it more complex than that? And why is he only active in Louisiana?

[noble scarab]

Its some kind of Lovecraftian blind-idiot type being. It is active in more areas than the bayou, it was active in NY, the Cascades, China, and in other scattered locations in the past

[stuck sluice]

Thanks for the info

[restive patrol]

well China and other foreign locations might not be the Sculptor's doing, given that it is established that there are other beings that have other agendas in interfering with the earthly plain (the Poltergeist from the old lore and Lynch)

[noble scarab]

that is also true^

[high stone]

Was there really a divide in lore (old lore/new lore)?

[noble scarab]

yes

[high stone]

How come?

[empty owl]

its not entirely clear where the old lore ended, it kind of just mixes it into the new one and we just accept it as is

[stuck sluice]

So the game could theoretically also take place in other countries. Interesting.

[upbeat kiln]

That was the original idea. It would have been episodes or seasons in different regions

[stuck sluice]

I see. Btw, I watched some of your lore videos. They're very informative.

[vivid garden]

That is so dirty move. I was gonna buy that but I wasn't sure if I gonna get those bb's

[jagged thistle]

It's because BBs are supposedly "too easy to get", they also turned the spawn rate for BB cash registers and BB pouches waaay down. I hope the new challenges or whatever will give BBs like Summons did

[vivid garden]

Yea. I agree totally! Weekly challenges were also nice

[high stone]

Holy shit I actually forgot there used to be BB pouches…

[high stone]

Interesting! Did devs say that explicitly, or do we just see that in references to other events in the lore?

[upbeat kiln]

One of the original developers said that. I did an interview with him. He is not with Crytek anymore :))

[high stone]

Very cool! TY 😊

I’ll have to find your interview…everything they have in the game goes so well in the LA Swamp setting, that it makes me wonder what they would have done differently for other locations

[stuck sluice]

Interestingly, one of the free event charms looks like a wara ningyo (basically the Japanese equivalent of a voodoo doll). Could it be a hint of things to come? (Then again, it could be something else entirely that I don't know about that just looks like a wara ningyo. If you think it's something else, please tell me).

[jade vapor]

Who is the "Mary" description of the legendary new army pistol? Is it Hail Mary?

[upbeat kiln]

Mary Ochenkov

[icy brook]

It might be Mary Ochenkov, who is one of the people Chary tricked into sacrificing a loved one

^^^

[jade vapor]

Very cool. I'll google her name now.

[upbeat kiln]

Exactly what penhux said :))

[dapper leaf]

Maybe that's what it is intended to be but it looks like the cords are not tied in the correct way for wara ningyo

[stuck sluice]

What else could it be? Or is it just an oversight?

[dapper leaf]

Maybe just a oversight. But maybe it was suppose to be a normal voodoo doll because the game is in Louisiana. I don't know what those look like though.

[high stone]

I would guess something closer to Vodun since it's Louisiana 1895, not Japanese centric

the artist could have been inspired by the wara ningyo though! Even though, given the context, that would be a strange choice

[stuck sluice]

Perhaps it's something to do with the Ronin character?

[high stone]

maybe!

Although, I think there is lots of african culture carried over from ex-slaves and immigrants in 1895 Louisiana, so I would go there first...but I don't know for sure! Could be a little Ronin charm.

Lots of cultures make little human shaped figurines as well, so it might just be your hope that it's Japanese

[stuck sluice]

How could you tell? Is it the weeb pfp?!

[high stone]

haha 🤷

[icy brook]

The Krag seems to have an intriguing cartouche on the left side behind the magazine

[restive patrol]

pleasantly surprised they actually included that little detail, now if its the correct military inspector at the time, I can't say, the low resolution does not help

[icy brook]

Stylistically it matches, although the “AMP” of Hunt’s stock does not match any such stamps I’ve found so far

[high stone]

Whoa! Cool

[bold tangle]

It’s also Kevin’s mother Incase you couldn’t find much about her

[jagged thistle]

Mary Ochenkov =/= Kevin's mother

[wispy creek]

Wait what??

I never heard anything about that

[noble scarab]

Mary isn’t kev’s mother, kevs parents were long dead before that even started

[misty iron]

does anyone know if there is a place to read the serpent moon lire?

[vernal stag]

https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Serpent_Moon_Story

[misty iron]

ta

[restive patrol]

bruh really

the Kingsnake mine "creature" was just a tease for a legendary? come on

[foggy sundial]

Have we gotten a look to what the Sulphur band looks like or are they faceless

[jagged thistle]

I was kinda disapointed too, and she doesn't even look that great

[untold blaze]

Exactly what I’m thinking brah, she looks crappy and I was expecting some dope ass snake chimera thing as the new boss

[noble scarab]

There’s a photo on the wall in the saloon in Desalle

[tardy citrus]

What is the king snake mine creature?

[wraith cove]

@tardy citrus this

[tardy citrus]

Oh

They thought she was a monster?

[restive patrol]

given that Crytek teased that they were working on a boss well before Serpent's Moon, it was safe to assume that what they were describing in the last event was the new boss. but turns out no

[noble scarab]

That still begs the question of how those hunters got out of the mine without killing Mary

Unless they just had dynamite on them and blew the mine back open and left before Mary showed up from the depths

Not a great resolution tbh

[tardy citrus]

Step 1) poison bomb a narrow passage. Step 2) concertina bomb. Step 3) fire bomb

She’s need a slashing weapon and antidote shot

😋

[restive patrol]

In general, this "moon trilogy" has been pretty bad and just out there, "Avenger's Civil War" finale, what? We already had something like that before, what happened to all that?

[high stone]

Yep…sucks

Yes, the Moon Lore is really bad

[high stone]

She looks like a sort-of-interesting tertiary character, even though I can’t tell anything about what happened to her based on how she looks

[noble scarab]

It’s very obvious the initial moon event was supposed to be wolf themed, similar to the other Native event, but they just kinda shoved them in as dlc rather than an event

[noble scarab]

We just ignore older lore here, what’s a retcon, who cares about continuity

[high stone]

Haha, I’m not ignoring older Lore. People don’t forget!

[noble scarab]

Bayou time limit, what’s that? How’d Chary become head of the aha? Who knows? Not Crytek

[restive patrol]

no wonder they had to go and hire the main author from the Tom Clancy games, who has 25 years under his belt, the writing and continuity is in shambles

[noble scarab]

It’s very sad tbh early Hunt lore was so good

[high stone]

Oh no, they did

[high stone]

I’m trying to find this Reddit post that actually had a great description of what’s not good about this new Lore - but I think it is kind of important to say that it’s doesn’t seem like a departure or retcon as much as a really weird side quest that is written in a way to make sure it doesn’t conflict with the old lore ( it would be hard to, since there are so little shared story points)

It’s just, so weird, and I can’t see anybody wanting that if they enjoyed what the game has been for the past 3 years

[vernal stag]

They might be able to loop it back around and say that Hayden Collins made Lynch a fictionalized version of Chary, since most of the lore we get about Lynch is through his stories. If they were one in the same, then it could make sense

[noble scarab]

Thats another thing tho, this whole event and the last ones are also dime novels

LUNAR FEVER TAKES OVER NEW ORLEANS- The talk of the town has been the moon this week as fans of Simon Moore flock to the stands for their copy of the Lunae Diaboli periodical. Readers, young and old, have been enraptured by the tall tales of the young champion Kevin as he fights the dastardly Chary and the horrors he's brought to our very own New Orleans that changed the Bayou forever.

[high stone]

The dime novels thing is ALSO another very weird choice…are we supposed to take them seriously? Are they dime novels because we’re supposed to treat the@ as unreliable fiction within the fiction??

[noble scarab]

I think they want us to treat them as unreliable fiction within the fiction

[vernal stag]

Oh man, I hadnt read that from the news update yet. Definitely not a good idea to use that as a framing device or whatever they are trying

[noble scarab]

Right? This means that’s this dude is either a Hunter and is relating true events, as fiction, or that the whole saga is just a made up story

[high stone]

I’m not sure how it’s useful

[noble scarab]

Which doesn’t really work because we have events and things that occur outside the event narrative

[restive patrol]

oh and apparently, what's even stranger, is that one of the chapters, implies Mary survived till 1903, just . . . terrorizing random children? what

like that was the entire chapter, gonna have to ask my friend to take a screenshot of that one

what's even weirder as well, is why is it all of a sudden 1903, we got a time jump or something else?

[high stone]

Oh like it’s not longer a linear narrative that we were present during

Suddenly they have all the info

[restive patrol]

as Hans would say "Zis writing sucks ass" lol

[high stone]

What’s with the Tom Clancy writer thing?

[restive patrol]

apparently they recently hired the main guy who wrote the stories for all of the Tom Clancy Games for Hunt Showdown

so . . . maybe the lore will improve . . . prob not

[high stone]

Like, Splinter Cell, Ghost Recon, etc?

[restive patrol]

yea

[high stone]

Yeah…I bet it will become worse in a certain way

Not looking forward to any more soap opera stuff

[restive patrol]

also why in tf do people know about Hunters and the situation in the bayous? That's supposed to be secretive and no one publically knows, but apparently Crytek just forgot or something.

[high stone]

I hadn’t thought about that yet, but that is fucking crazy

[rose cape]

any updates on the ghoul lore?

[high stone]

What ghouls

[sharp flower]

am i still able to listen to the serpent moon events lore readings?

[noble scarab]

Might be on YouTube

[noble scarab]

There is nothing to it besides the perk in game, someone started a rumor and we get posts like that from time to time

[high stone]

Ahh ok, Ty

[empty owl]

can’t wait for the plot twist that the whole game is a story written by collins, that would be meta…and a lame plot twist

[brittle nest]

What does each pact entail?

[pearl abyss]

I find it both dumb but interesting that the shit happening in the bayou is becoming known but the lore is so confusing and hard to tell that it seems so dumb.

[upbeat kiln]

You're probably right.. And it makes me sad :((

[empty owl]

knowing that its specifically called a tall tale its definitely a dime novel or the such

just hope that its another collins situation instead of the whole story being a fictional thing

[potent merlin]

rip

[frigid bone]

I’m just going to believe that the events of the devil’s moon are real but kept hidden from the public who sees it as just that, tall tales and the writings from a dime store book.

[gleaming narwhal]

A somewhat different lore question: is the uppercut pistol based on something in real life (pistol firing rifle cartridges) or is it made up for the game?

[restive patrol]

#hunt-general message

[gleaming narwhal]

Thanks; however searching for that caliber only yields a modern-day revolver, called the BFG (which kinda looks ugly tbh). So unless I'm mistaken there probably wasn't a real life-equivalent in that era.

[icy brook]

The closest historical analog is the Colt Walker, the uppercut could be explained as a large caliber competition pistol which were popular in the late 19th century, although they were generally single shot like those produced by Sharps or Remington

[silver yacht]

Can somebody explain the idea behind the pledge system lore wise. I guessed as much that the luna and infernal are the good vs bad analogy but what is the lore for the grounded hunters?

[frigid bone]

They don't pick a side. they just want to hunt. a sort of neutral party

[silver yacht]

damn thats deep

[lime bolt]

Hey there. I just need a headsup. A Good Friend if mine and I got in Kind of an Argument and now i do wanna get a definitive answer.

Is the whole game Set in the bayou or Only "stillwater bayou"?

My understanding is, that all maps are Set in "The swampland of louisiana" and with that, all maps are Set in the bayou.
He says, Only "stillwater bayou" is the bayou. The other maps are louisiana, but not the bayou.

[visual finch]

The Bayou is the whole area across the Mississippi Delta in Lousiana, and it's more than 100km wide. That being said, for sure Stillwater and Lawson are for sure in the Bayou, i'm not 100% sure about DeSalle but i'm investigating.

[high stone]

La Salle was a French explorer who traveled the Mississippi River and named Louisiana, so I kind of figured the name at least could be related to him … there are some cliff areas further north along the Mississippi but not really dry canyon land like you see on some of the map boundaries…it could be north of the LA border…but the description on the Hunt site (for when the map was released) says it “brings a ….autumnal theme to the bayou”…might be an over generalization?

Someone on Reddit said there was (initially at least) a store sign in DeSalle that claimed it was south of New Orleans, which also doesn’t make much sense 🤷‍♀️

[noble scarab]

Desalle is supposed to be somewhere within Louisiana but it’s kind of fictionalized terrain

Or is much closer to Texas than the other locations

[small abyss]

@noble scarab there are some smaller areas that look similar to deaalle in Louisiana, but no area of size.

I live here for reference

[hasty raven]

Don't know if it's been brought up here yet, but the canonical pact alignments of most DLC hunters is apparently revealed in the DLC bundles on Steam

Lunar pact hunters

Infernal pact hunters

Grounded pact hunters + Frau Perchta who couldn't fit in the screenshot

wonder why they would force a few legendary hunters into pacts in game but not all of them

damn the Researcher is on Mr. Chary's side? Come on Harold

[high stone]

More fake lore…Black wouldn’t do that!

[hasty raven]

apparently he would

[noble scarab]

Hardin and the detectives are also infernal, makes me think infernal pact hunters are more on the side that doesn’t care what happens so long as there’s results

[wispy creek]

youre exactly right actually

[zealous token]

Or perhaps there’s some cases of “I don’t buy into the Lunar’s claims and think they’re just trying to destroy the AHA (or what’s left of it)”

[short nacelle]

I think Mr. Chary is actually Cain. Now hear me out, not only do both names start with a C but if you read the lore on Cain it actually alludes to the fact that hopefully you wasted your time reading this...

[untold patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/computing-confused-wait-what-wait-a-minute-alan-gif-17278992

[neat juniper]

No actually

We do not know for certain who is cain before his insanity

So it could be mr.chary going back in time using da dark magic

[short nacelle]

bro that's so true

[wraith cove]

Does cain even have any lore in regards to interaction w other hunters

[noble scarab]

He doesn’t as far as I know, he just kills them and makes a hut out of their bones

[sand cedar]

is there somewhere to go read the previous events lore?

[noble scarab]

It’s on the wiki and posted in this channel

HazmatFTW also has a reading of the traitors moon on his YouTube

[molten forge]

Researches isn't Infernal, he's unaligned.

Same with Hardin, detectives are infernal though

iirc Black Coat is likely unaligned since the twins killed him

That said, I am surprised Bone Doctor is unaligned, since Doctor John did inform Kevin Linus on what to do to stop Chary

[icy brook]

^

[high stone]

Phew.. I think @hasty raven was claiming that based on how they were organized in the store? Idk

[high stone]

I’m..uh…taking anything from the lore connected to this with a handful of salt

[hasty raven]

.

I mentioned how most of the legendary hunters are given alignments via the bundles on Steam but only a few aren't restricted in game

[hasty raven]

Bone Doctor is lunar according to the bundles

[high stone]

Within the loose new lore, that makes sense for Dr. John

[proper latch]

I'm surprised skinflint is part of the infernal pact, I would think a scrooge-like would end up in Grounded, or Lunar

[icy brook]

Capitalism at its most chaotic

[hasty raven]

The Skinflint hates the corruption

In his lore from the Blood & Ice event, he murdered a half-infected Hunter whom he had some personal attachment with (I don't remember) because she was partially infected

so I suppose he's one of the ones who just wants results

[molten forge]

The devs did confirm that the legendary hunters that are aligned are aligned for lore reasons.

[high stone]

I don’t doubt that the devs approved all of the event and lore details

[molten forge]

That said, it's also quite likely that Chary's charisma is at play, with quite some deception. Hence why Skinflint and the Detectives are on the infernal side

[icy brook]

Chary is the current head of the AHA chapter, so if these hunters want paid out for their contracts they kind of have to do his bidding

[molten forge]

That too.

[high stone]

When I say take any of this with a handful of salt, I mean that this Chary/Moon saga lore seems like it’s not written with a great understanding of what they want to do with it or where it’s going, and I wouldn’t be that surprised if it’s essentially ignored down the road

[icy brook]

I’m re listening to the two previous event lore pieces, they’re actually pretty decent, and more cohesive than I remember

[high stone]

Hazmat videos?

[icy brook]

Yeah I listened to his for traitor moon

[high stone]

Ah cool, I’ll listen to the latest…cohesion within the new lore makes sense…but the ideas are pretty weird, and wacky…and don’t really align with the stuff built up since 2017 (I guess is my point).

[restive patrol]

if it was self-contained with no background stuff going on, yea, it's cohesive, but when looking at the bigger picture, it's just so abrupt in thematics and no build up to it whatsoever, like "Where did Mr. Chary come from? How did he become AHA lead?", "Why should we care about Kevin?", "Why is the moon alive all of a sudden when it said nothing about the Sculptor?", "What happened to all the previous factions ie Reverend's bunch, Hardin's, etc?"

[icy brook]

Crytek story committee be like 🤷‍♂️

The lore bites are cool as individual story stories but I agree severely lack an over arching narrative

[high stone]

I was looking at a list of top names in 1895 Lousiana, and…’Kevin’ is not high on the list

[restive patrol]

not to mention the random plot threads in the "Moon Trilogy" that are unresolved, like "How did they get out of Kingsnake mine?" "What was the deal with snakes coming out of Kevin?", "Why is Mr. Chary "evil"/ what's his goal"

[high stone]

This is kind of like the original Monster book vs. Weapon book…definitely seems like different writers with different ideas

[high stone]

Ochenkovs widow was being built in the mine, too? And she’s like a Winter Soldier Frankenstein monster? She can just rip hearts out of chests??

[hasty raven]

the snake thing was foreshadowed a while ago

[restive patrol]

and to top it all off, they chose to frame the entire trilogy as freaking dime novels, so who knows what is true or not, or hell, this entire story could be made up

[high stone]

(I’ll keep pointing)

[restive patrol]

yes, I believe in one of the later chapters, she straight up kills Kevin or something and that's that lol

[restive patrol]

does it have plot relevance later on or have any significance? no, especially with his whole "I get my heart ripped out" and for some reason, this time, no snakes appear xd

[high stone]

I think it doesn’t really matter if a snake was mentioned as foreshadowing, the plot points are just like…events in a dream…pulling snakes out of Kevin raises so many questions and makes so little sense in a lucid reality

[restive patrol]

• I'm pretty sure the snake thing was only with Lynch and the twins, no? none of this "pulling snakes out of a human body" with no explanation

[high stone]

I think? I don’t even really care about the Lynch Story since it seemed pretty wild and disconnected from the stuff I was SEEING in the game, anyway

[restive patrol]

fair, and even that one was framed as another dime novel

[high stone]

God damn, it was??

I didn’t know that

[restive patrol]

yea, its by Collins, he's mentioned as the author and his specter compact skin is ingame as well

[high stone]

Ohh ok

[icy brook]

Yeah Bad As They Seem is the title of the novel

I will say some of the power Lynch had must have really existed in universe, given the phantom’s story and prostheses work the way they do

Petition to return Lynch to the lore when

[hasty raven]

the snakes thing was foreshadowed by the Light the Shadow event

and the Archaeologist

[restive patrol]

apologies, but where is it "foreshadowed" in that particular event?

[hasty raven]

Well it wasn't foreshadowed by the event per se, but the Teche Wraith is a reference to it

[restive patrol]

also my main problem with Kevin and his snakes, is it wasn't implied anywhere that he was "blessed" by a particular snake-themed deity/entity.

[restive patrol]

ah I c

[hasty raven]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayou_Teche

this waterway is said to be the imprint of a giant snake that was defeated

furthermore, the Archaelogist was obsessed with the Destruction of Palatkwapi myth, which is a myth in the real world to do with snakes manifesting in the tribe and some sort of snake deity if my memory serves

this all lends to the idea of a a rival snake entity to the Sculptor

I had theorized this back when the Teche Wraith came out

the Sculptor deals in insects/moths, this entity deals with snakes

I'll have to look up the Destruction of Palatkwapi again

anyway, the Archaelogist's obsession with the myth strangely bringing her to the bayou, the myth itself, and the bayou Teche imply that this snake entity had been around in the Americas long before the Sculptor itself

I have not read any of the lore since the Traitor's Moon event so I don't know how it ties to the Moon though

[restive patrol]

and there in lies the problem, snakes are not mentioned in Traitor's Moon at all, hence why I've been saying its so abrupt

[hasty raven]

I see

[restive patrol]

it makes a big deal out of him getting blessed by the Moon, then turns around and says she's "useless" and that now Kevin, all of a sudden, has snakes coming out of him

[hasty raven]

I wonder if I'm the only one who predicted that a snake entity that rivalled the Sculptor was coming

I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the Serpent Moon was a thing, but not enough to come back to the game

I've been out of the loop for a while

[restive patrol]

ah, no wonder

[noble scarab]

Our boy kev has a negative kda

Snakes have been part of things since BATS, one of the twins was even part snake

Speaking of that, where tf are they during all this? They wouldn’t put up with Chary’s nonsense

[hasty raven]

I forgor about that

[high stone]

I hear you…the secondary references to mythical snakes seem like pretty weak support though, at least the way they’re written. (Even the “Sculptor” has always seemed like a placeholder until Narrative could develop the REAL lore)

[restive patrol]

gone, just like Crytek's commitment to continuity and cohesive writing

[noble scarab]

Another victim of “old lore”

[high stone]

Calling something the “Sculptor” is like listing the concept of the thing, instead of a real name for the thing. Like calling things “Grunts”, “Armoreds”, etc.

It’s like you’re looking at board game instructions

[noble scarab]

Originally the entity was classified as a “sculptor” not THE sculptor

As in entity type

[high stone]

Right

[restive patrol]

if I recall, it was changed to "THE sculptor" cause they liked they way it sounded when the community labeled it as that . . .

[high stone]

It’s like Crytek transcribes the game design outline right into the lore/narrative WITHOUT developing it

[noble scarab]

It’s kinda like the game and the lore are two different universes tbh

[high stone]

Haha right

[hasty raven]

well...

it kind of is

you have to remember the way the lore is presented is through recovered documentation or stories told from non-firsthand sources

[noble scarab]

For a long time crytek insisted that the two were was equal

And they would verbally warn you on here for insisting that the year wasn’t 1895

[hasty raven]

I'm not trying to defend any narrative grievances, I don't know the lore well enough to say, I'm just saying

[hasty raven]

Well when it takes place, yeah, but multiple entries in the books state the Louisiana incident was in the past from the perspective of the writer of the entry

[noble scarab]

Of course, but the in-game year is forever 1895 per crytek

They only recently began having dates outside of the 1895 range in lore

Aside from the assumed future readings

Gotta look up which gun entry it is brb: edit it’s the new army, with entries in 1897 from the investigators

[dry basin]

is there any place to read the stories/lore of the past 2 events?

[noble scarab]

It’s on the wiki, numerous places in here, and on YouTube

[proper latch]

Sure its been mentioned but the new tribute pot thing seems to maybe have the special ammo symbols on the side? They are briefly in the light during the animation, unless my eyes deceive me

[noble scarab]

Alright so now that people have had a chance to finish up the event Devil's moon: Spoilers: ||WTF? Half the event was from the whole dime novel thing, then all that happens is our boy Kev dies, AGAIN, only to be rez'ed. We get a mostly useless journal from Elise, then boom the AHA is declared done, thats probably the most significant thing to come from this event. So Kev's back and sending out notice to other Hunters? the whole world? then we get some wonderful Port Sulphur music, which don't get me wrong I love the music, but it really ate into the event story space. And the whole "avengers endgame" thing from the lore stream? Our boy kev got killed again and then that was it, no other fight, no nothing. also we YET AGAIN DIDNT KILL CHARY, on what was supposed to be the end of the moon trilogy, which also we didn't even get to fix the moon? So are we gonna have a forth surprise moon event? ||

[restive patrol]

oh and then the one random entry that is just in 1903 for some damn reason

[wraith cove]

Has the sculpture ever been seen as a physical entity at all or even fought directly

[restive patrol]

never been seen as a physical entity, nor ever fought directly

[wraith cove]

So whats to say its actually one sole entity

How would anyone even know if they had killed him instead of assuming oh its mustve just been another one of the sculptures extra spicy creations

[restive patrol]

all we're trying to do is "contain" the corruption/prevent its incursion into our reality. The sculptor is framed as a other-worldly, Lovecraftian entity that humanity can never hope to physically fight or see without going insane, so all they can do is prevent it from entering reality.

[wraith cove]

Would it be far fethced to say charry could also be from the suspected realm lynch and the sculptor is froms or is he seen as more a normal guy that knows a lot about the occult and how to manipulate it

[restive patrol]

Chary seems to be more of a normal guy that knows a lot about the occult and how to manipulate it (though personally, I'd take anything regarding him and this "moon trilogy" with a grain of salt, given how it doesn't jive well with any pre-established concepts, and likely may get ignored in the future, as it is established that this entire trilogy may just straight up be fiction, given that they set them up as "dime novels")

[wraith cove]

I could easily see them hitting us with a " oh its just a different timeline" sort or thing

Also to add onto how does kev play into anything revolving around the sculptor isnt his whole thing about trying to soly stop charry i dont think it ever stats he even rlly intends to fight the corruption

[upbeat kiln]

My man 😄

[plush pike]

or is it one grounded per hunter

[wild ember]

Lorewise...is there a reason for these ...glass like monolith ? Idk if it's a bug, but it's looking kinda polished

[tired spear]

there's no specific lore reason, but it's an easter egg about those same monoliths that started appearing in the... nevada desert i think? back in 2019 or 2020

https://www.vox.com/culture/22062796/monoliths-utah-california-romania

[vernal stag]

I figured that the avengers civil war quip was eluding to a lot of characters making cameos in the story. But it sounds like that's not the case? I've been looking around but haven't found the whole devil's moon story anywhere yet if you can direct anyone to it.

[vernal stag]

I really don't understand the thought processes behind dropping a whole roster of characters that were reasonably established. There wasn't too much about them nailed down so they could still flex to whatever story they wanted. How do you choose to start over for almost a year of storyline without building on what you already have?

[noble scarab]

Gonna dm you: edit: or not, all I can say is that there’s a text copy on the sub that shall not be named

[noble scarab]

That aside, yea it’s kinda cool to hear from some characters that aren’t ever talked about and it’s good to see that they’re trying to make most of the dlc hunters have a place in the story but ultimately it’s just that. A halfhearted mention.

[icy brook]

I’m assuming employee turnover in the lore department

[noble scarab]

Nothing is accomplished or resolved

At this point they kinda need to just stop with the lore tbh, just say magic swamp zombies and be done with it

[vernal stag]

I was able to look it up with that hint. Thank you, I have pms from other people in this discord turned off because a guy once messaged me through it to whine at me for killing him when I didn't accept his steam friend request.

[noble scarab]

That’s understandable and valid

[rotund ferry]

Anyone have a link to the whole story of devils moon? Is it even worth reading?

[vernal stag]

Having read it now, my feeling is more charitable. Several chapters only seem to be explaining the why and how of the event mechanics, which is fine. The side characters being thrown in are just brief cameos that don't amount to much. If a lot of that ancillary stuff was going to be included, it does seem like maybe they could have extended it to 20 or 25 chapters and let the primary action have extra, linear chapters like serpent's moon was. My interpretation is that ||since there are snippets from the same newspaper talking about the dime novel version of events, as well as news stories about the wildfires (including kevin's death) it tells me the events are true. I think what the writers are going for is spelled out in chapter 12 - the archeologist concludes that the fires and conflict are destroying everything that future researchers need to piece together the story. Since the overall framing of the lore is AHA researchers looking back on the Louisiana Event, it makes sense to me that they might need to rely on fictional versions of events to conclude what happened. Chapter 14 seems to be setup for future events and not an ending to the AHA. Finch is in charge now and will be including other AHA orgs. Chapter 13 is setup for more international hunters.|| Overall, it does seem like they could have cut some fat, or kept the fat in and given us more in general. It's definitely not a finale.

[rotund ferry]

||WHAT HE DOESNT DIE? THATS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR||

[small abyss]

Seems like a good setup to exit louisiana and have maps elsewhere.

[high stone]

I’m thinking the same thing…I wondered if they’re setting up an exit because they see the market potential (community pressure) of shifting the setting to more western states, like the desert ones, the Rockies, etc. It really seems like most people just comprehend “Cowboy PvP”.

I hope that’s not the case since there’s still tons of ‘meat on the bone’ for creepy southern swamp material…and the chance to develop a real backstory with the material they’ve put in the actual game.

But I think Red Dead: Undead Nightmare is a more popular idea

(I think this is a mistake, if I have to say it)

[icy brook]

I’m hopeful the licensed streaming series will save the lore, or just start over and expand on the bare concepts of Hunt

[high stone]

Maybe there’s a chance, I’m not as optimistic

I wouldn’t mind a solidly improved reboot for next gen where they fix all the problems, expand the gameplay a little, and erase the fanfic-style lore in favor of a good story (A second draft, sort of like going from Evil Dead to Evil Dead 2). Hunt: Showdown has always felt like a pre-release version of the real game, just on an extended timeline…so I don’t think it would be TOO strange to do that

But this is more for the feedback channel I guess

[icy brook]

Couldn’t agree more

[wraith cove]

Whos finch again

[rugged lodge]

can any persian translate the words on the eye-piece of the sacrosanct martini deadeye skin ?
it aint arabic because i can't understand it

[small abyss]

I think for the overall health of the game they'll need to expand outside of the swamps. Also seeing a wendigo on a snow capped mountain or a skin walker in the desert would be awesome

Also good example of evil dead 1 and 2. I love those movies.

[high stone]

Oh yeah, I understand your perspective… Even though I think it’s a little misguided…(I also like Evil Dead, but I’m really just using that as an example of redoing a project to make a much improved version suited to the creator’s vision.)

It seems like a lot of players have the inclination to view Hunt as something like a Big Cryptid Hunter or Monster Hunter, : Cryptid Edition, but it’s not. It has a pretty specific variety of monsters based around body horror, infestation, and supernatural damnation, (they align pretty well with a “1980s cinematic H.P. Lovecraft” type of realistic yet stylistic tone.) The choices matter a lot.
Louisiana and New Orleans is also a geographic and cultural hub between the Eastern and Western US, the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean islands..The haunted, oppressive atmosphere of the swamplands in the deep American south serve this monster scheme really well, and the time period (post Civil War, post Reconstruction) is one where The South still suffers from the blight of the war, intense racism, poverty, and is saturated in conservative Christianity - so something like twisted, violated people coming back from the dead - and maybe some bad actors involved in a conspiracy that caused it to happen - is really horrible, and really heavy. The hints of massive change in the 20th century is also threatening to roll over everything, even the old“wounds” of the South - Germ Theory is now accepted, electricity is more and more commonplace..science is advancing, what is and isn’t possible is less certain.

Maybe I should write a longer Reddit post about it, but the setting says a lot that isn’t explicit otherwise.

There could be some other settings but they would have to handled with a lot of thought and care to still feel like Hunt.

[small abyss]

I live in la and was born and raised here. But the occultish nature of hunts lore would be well suited in the northern hemisphere equally as well as it is in the swamp. Also the creatures I named were just examples although wendigos would be terrifying. I think we all can agree we love hunts lore bc its so unique. No need for ghosts and goblins when we have butcher and assassin right lol.

[devout glade]

The lore for this event is supposer disappointing. Like wtf even is the last chapter

||like no conclusive end to Kevin, cherry or the widow and all around the lore isn’t even about the event||

[noble scarab]

We had a poltergeist in old lore, it kicked the aha’s ass. Which goes to show their incompetence I guess.

[empty owl]

we also have that thing that happened in new york, whatever the hell it is

come to think of new york, i have a theory that shortly before the detectives travelled to louisiana they were recruited into the AHA or at least have someone inject them with the "demon blood" substance so they can go into the outbreak zone undeterred, shortly after they entered desalle they were ambushed by a gang/a pack of hunters and hawksaw died as a result, leaving private eye by herself to investigate the ruins of pelican island under the orders from a party possibly interested in learning about the louisiana incident and how it connected to new york. Possibly the government, the new york branch, or a third party that somehow got their hands on info regarding both louisiana and new york.

[wraith cove]

Its not soley a new york bayou thing it happens all over to some degree wether or not its the same corruption from the sculptor or possibly even another entity from the same realm or a completely whole different can of worms is unknown

[earnest jungle]

I don’t think it would be appropriate for the game to feature a Skinwalker because the Skinwalker isn’t some monster that goes bump in the night like a werewolf or bigfoot it’s a monster of such immense cultural and spiritual significance that Navajo will not talk about it with outsiders. And generally Crytek has strived to be respectful of real world cultures and their real world religions.

[untold blaze]

A Wendigo would be dope

I doubt native Americans would be pissed if one of their cryptids in the game, long as we consult them

[high stone]

My point was just that Hunt isn’t really a template to insert whatever Cryptid or Creepypasta that people want to see…it has it’s own tone and style….a novelty monster for a one-off task in a game with a neutral tone like Red Dead is more appropriate (Kill Bigfoot! Find 3 skin walkers!)….

It’s likely that LA swampland has the best conditions, a place that the horribly unnatural Wasp/Worm/Infection/Supernatural combination could boil over into a disaster where lots of Hunters are killing each other in the blighted zones.

I bet the NY Incident and other small events mentioned are connected, but are just small pieces of the puzzle, isolated and kept very quiet, in comparison to the Louisiana problem

Not sure how well infected undead people would do in the cold in Northern states

(There are zero Cryptids in Hunt:Showdown)

[neat juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-sing-se-gif-20976912

[rotund ferry]

Much wordy

I think a parasitic twist on the classic Skinwalker would be kinda cool

But I also think keeping the game original is an important factor in what makes Hunt a good game artistically

But personally I wouldn't mind seeing a Hunt showdown themed Moth man or Wendigo at all but it'd have to be unique

[deep escarp]

Hey uh anyone know where to find Huffington's initiation letter?

[devout glade]

Does anyone know why Kevin looks the way he dose?

[rotund ferry]

Kevin looks like Zetsu from Naruto. I think the artist that created him was a Naruto fan.

[devout glade]

With the way the lore is right now I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if that was true

[high stone]

Yes, much…wordy….indeed

[high stone]

Yeah I think we both agree that Hunt is great because it’s unique (especially among the rest of current games and major studio ‘gaming’ culture)
.
I think Wendigo has also only ever been an antlered skull monster on the recent internet (?)…the real one is pretty much just a malevolent, possessive cannibal spirit

There are lots of interesting possibilities just involving the details of things presented IN the game…I don’t get why people reach for the canned Cryptids

[steel ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/purple-guy-lore-gif-24356620

[rotund ferry]

Absolutely. I don't want hunt to turn into something like dead by daylight where it's just another copyrighted killer and barebone events

Like I said earlier I'd love to a parasitic twist on the classic "Skinwalker" where the entity/creature in question burrows itself into it's victims to assume their appearance but as you get closer you realize that this "thing" is not what it's made out to be. Making it a parasite would fit really well with that infectious almost resident-evil esc aesthetic that hunt seems to have like the pulsating honeycomb on the walls of buildings or the grotesque and revolting appearances on some of the monsters like the meathead and hive.

I think another insectoid boss like spider would be really cool to see. As a kid I always had a fascination with insects because they were the strangest and most alien things you as an individual could see in your very own backyard without having to do something like dive to a deep depth or travel across the world to see something exotic. No to see something truly special and unique all you had to do was to tip a brick over in your grandmother's garden and see all the creepy crawlies wriggling around in their natural environment.

[mossy hull]

I wonder if Kevin’s house is in game and they put the burnt out circle in game as well

[noble scarab]

It isn’t, sad to say

[edgy aspen]

Kevin's house in next map. Lets go.

[rotund ferry]

Didn't they say something on stream today about Grounded hunters being kept if you prestige, as long as they have a pledge mark? Is that true?

only one maxed out hunter away from getting the 5 maxed hunters achievement and I'm approaching prestige time

oh wrong channel

whoops

[mossy hull]

And whatever happens to Chary have it in game too. Scorched ground or something to say this is where it all ended

[tall vigil]

Man, I love the new Frau Perchta, but she’s gotta be sweltering under that fur. In the Louisiana bayou? The humidity?

Frau Perchta finds a nice river to cool off in. She waves her teammates away as she drifts lazily down the current.
“Go on without me,” she says, “I’ll catch up.”

[neat juniper]

Water devils are her friends

[tall vigil]

Unwitting innertubes.

Can’t bite through all her layers.

[neat juniper]

Friendly little water noodles

[upbeat kiln]

How does one get them to be friendly.. I have failed at this several times

[tall vigil]

You’re just not Frau Perchta material. I’m sorry.

[upbeat kiln]

Aww :((

[visual finch]

Just get 4 pledge mark and the trait with grounded pact and you can pet everything

petting water devil

[neat juniper]

Ye

Shadow trait is based

[upbeat kiln]

You've become one with them

Like a Steve Irwin of the Bayous

[visual finch]

YES

[tall vigil]

“Now ‘ere we see what’s known as a Water Devil. Ooh! Watchyer fingahs there; lil’ nippy fellas, aren’t they?”

[visual finch]

Now i kinda want a youtube series of Irwin style documentaries on the creatures of the Bayou

[tall vigil]

“We got ourselves a real gnarly one today; the Hive. Now don’t let’er looks fool you, she’s no harmless old mammy—though the ribby-beehive might’ve tippedch’off before, eh?”

[upbeat kiln]

I can literally hear you channel Steve..

This should absolutely be a thing lol

[tall vigil]

I’m really more doing like, Ted Bear, or a survivalist parody. Old Steve’s just kinda become ubiquitous, y’know?

[rotund ferry]

I will never forgive water devils for driving out the alligators from the bayou

[tall vigil]

I still believe there’s gotta be at least one gator still left somewhere in the swamps.

[visual finch]

If i remember correctly there's a line that suggest that some alligators are still roaming the Bayou

[tall vigil]

Biding his time…

If the extinction of the dinosaurs couldn’t take ‘em out, I don’t think a buncha munchy eels could do it either.

[rotund ferry]

My beloved Keith Cowen

You're right there is one Gator left in the Bayou, and his scales are a testament to his persistence, skill, and treachery

[tall vigil]

That’s interesting to think about though, how the forces of the Sculptor might fare against other climates or indigenous wildlife.
I don’t think there’s much we’ve seen that could take on some of the higher-tier animals to the north.

[neat juniper]

Corruption

[tall vigil]

Like, the Hell’s an Immolator supposed to do against a moose? Ooooh, it’s gonna run real fast and smack ‘em? Gonna try to rip it apart with human nails? It’s a fucking moose.

[rotund ferry]

It'll explode like a creeper

Well not explode but burst into flames

[tall vigil]

And? Moose.

[rotund ferry]

Yeah true

I was gonna say a wolverine or honey badger

I mean

Honey badger don't care

[tall vigil]

Yeah, badgers’ll shrug that off like nothing.

You’ll just make it more mad. Great job.

[visual finch]

Imagine a corrupted Honey Badger instead of a hellhound

[tall vigil]

Leave the country. The territory is lost.

[rotund ferry]

Sad we'll probably never see any sort of alligator like enemy or boss in the game but at least they give us a lore explanation

[tall vigil]

I’m disappointed we’ll never get a moose boss.

[rotund ferry]

Not even escape is an option if these things were roaming

[tall vigil]

Here, let’s have some fun. Bosses vs animals.

[neat juniper]

Who would win
A trillion of lions or a sculptor?

[tall vigil]

The hippo, waiting in the wings.

[neat juniper]

Hippo can't win against trillion of lions

For simple reasons that he can't kill all of them before he expires

[tall vigil]

While true, a trillion is a lot…

I think your standard hippo could get through a startling amount of lions before it goes down. Nowhere near a trillion, but double digits, easy.

[rotund ferry]

Scrapbeak vs a literal grizzly bear

[neat juniper]

That is true

[tall vigil]

Bear. No contest.

[neat juniper]

I am like
Fairly certain that bear won't be able to defeat scrapbeak when scrapbeak had prep time

Just fair one v one it will go to bear

[rotund ferry]

Butcher vs a wild hog

[neat juniper]

Butcher

[tall vigil]

Scrapbeak needs junk to make his wirebombs. Underneath his backpack and whatnot he’s just kind of a guy.

[neat juniper]

Hogs are nothn

[tall vigil]

MMM, that’s a good one.

[neat juniper]

Ye, prep time

[tall vigil]

Hog from where?

[neat juniper]

No regular hog will be able to defeat butcher

For simple reasons that butcher is an enhanced hog

[tall vigil]

We talking like some kinda African Taipei, or a Southern swamp hog, or some monster hog outta Eurasia?

Butcher’s just a Meathead with a pig’s head and inexplicable fire powers. I think a big enough boar could do him in, but with the inclusion of the fire and his hook, I think Butcher takes it in most cases.

Don’t fuck with hogs though, man, they’ll tear you apart like truffles.

[neat juniper]

Well i mean big enough - of course
But we talking average

[neat juniper]

Tru

[tall vigil]

Butcher. I think if the boar could take out the legs, we might have a more even fight, and I think the boar might have the agility advantage.

[neat juniper]

Nah
Butcher has human like features and speed of upper appendages

Hog isn't agile enough to dodge butcher's strikes

Hog might be faster, but not more agile

[tall vigil]

Ehhhh, he’s kinda lumbering and clumsy. He’s not coordinated. A hog can get going when it needs to.

[neat juniper]

Why are we even arguing if we agreed that butcher slams

[neat juniper]

Give us another showdown

[tall vigil]

Spider vs Honey Badger.

[rotund ferry]

Sorry I've gotta go to bed

Catch you around

[neat juniper]

Nah honey badger slams

No worries

[rotund ferry]

Unless that honey badger catches you first

[neat juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-paranoid-gif-4974019

[tall vigil]

Spider’s venom is a non-issue. After that it’s got some pretty good bites, but like… It’s a honey badger, man.

Spider is ostensibly made of people, and boy can a badger do some gnarly stuff to the average human.

[neat juniper]

Ye
Honey badger is like direct counter to a spider

[visual finch]

Honey badger is the direct counter to 90% of life on earth

[neat juniper]

Tru, tru

[tall vigil]

Okay okay, let’s go a little different. How many Armored do you think it would take to bring down an African elephant?

[neat juniper]

Oh that's a good one

Hmmm

Are we talking normal armoreds or concertina ones!

[tall vigil]

Normal, and then we can move to Concertina.

[neat juniper]

Okayyyy

Hmmm
I'd say about 300 will suffice for sure

But how much less we can boil it down to

[tall vigil]

It’s definitely up there. Elephant just has such a high natural defense.

[neat juniper]

Ye

And armoreds don't have any good attack potency

[tall vigil]

They can get some good slashes in, but have you ever felt elephant skin? They shrug off lions and tigers.

[neat juniper]

And i am like fairly certain elephant can just one stomp an armored

[neat juniper]

Ye exactly

[tall vigil]

Don’t forget the tusks either. Crowd control.

[neat juniper]

True, true

So let's be generous and stop at 250 armoreds per elephant

That is my final answer

[tall vigil]

That’s fair. 250 sounds fair.

[neat juniper]

Aight, now concertinas

Anyone knows how good elephants are at regenerating bleed?

[tall vigil]

I think the issue with concertina would be they take away the elephant’s primary attack: the stomp. Elephant can’t stomp them without hurting itself.

[neat juniper]

Ye

I am sure that even 30 concertinas will do the job done

[tall vigil]

Tusks would be good I think, but that’s only in front. Elephant has no protection from behind.

[neat juniper]

But how much more we can boil it down too

[tall vigil]

I’m gonna say 50, just due to the elephant’s natural tankiness and the Armored’s inability to do any real damage on its own, but it’s not gonna be pretty. Elephant’s gonna be shredded afterwards.

[neat juniper]

Well i was more thinking about that afterwards shredding
50 would be overkill in my opinion

5 concertina armoreds slapping elephant's behind will cause it to lose so much blood already

[tall vigil]

Let’s say 30 killed, 50 incapacitated total.

[neat juniper]

Mmmm good point, good point

[tall vigil]

Not necessarily 50 dead, but 50 otherwise wounded.

Alright; fire vs ice.
Butcher vs Polar Bear.

[neat juniper]

No polar bear no argument

Polar bears are op

They can even aim and throw stones if they have high ground

[tall vigil]

You’re joking—

I didn’t know they could do that.

[neat juniper]

YA YEET

[tall vigil]

Alright well have fun up there, Mr. Sculptor! Enjoy all that freezing arctic nothing and whatnot, good luck corrupting all that frozen grass and seals.
We’ll all hang a little further south, prepare the bears, and just uhhh, see how things pan out.

[neat juniper]

:)

[tall vigil]

I’m telling ya, if the AHA will allow some asylum maniac, a literal zombie, and a fat redneck join its ranks, they could use an animal or two.

Set some wild hogs loose in the Bayou, train the local panthers and wildcats. Reintroduce the gators. They’ll clear the problem out in a month.

[neat juniper]

We need a polar bear hunter

[tall vigil]

Poor thing would die of heatstroke—

[neat juniper]

It is what it is

Perhaps it pledged itself to inferno pact

And won't die

[tall vigil]

Teach the bear rituals.

POLAR BEAR WITH THE GROUNDED PERK.

Bear just huffs and goes “I didn’t hear no bell.”

[neat juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/russia-bear-fight-punch-boxing-gif-16044488

[tall vigil]

Meanwhile, the Sculptor sits at their infernal desk, tearing out whatever it has for hair as some Grunt moans a report on how things are going in Louisiana.

“They brought in what? From where?!”

“Nnnaaaaaaaghh..”

“They taught it magic?!”

Y’know what, fuckit, just chuck the Sculptor and its forces into the sea, see how it deals with all that nonsense. It thinks it’s tough up here with all the bears and elephants and crap, we’ve got nothing on the deep ocean.

[neat juniper]

Wouldn't that be a bit too cruel

[tall vigil]

Hey, if it didn’t wanna play, it shouldn’t’ve started kicking up shit in the first place.

[neat juniper]

ong

[tall vigil]

Otherworldly corruptive force my butt; have fun dealing with Cthulhu or whatever’s down there. Just lemme get it on pay-per-view like old school wrestling.

[covert tendon]

So, I have a question for those who probably know more about this games lore than me. Why don't the bosses (scrapbeak, butcher, etc) not leave the Bayou?

[lament barn]

Heck I wanna know why they don't leave the buildings they are in

[covert tendon]

I mean I'm pretty sure that's a game design and not a lore matter but

It could be that since those are their lairs they could have some significant value or at least mean something to what remains from the corruption

Or since the monster compendium describes them as animalistic it could be more about territory

[scarlet stag]

Hello. I just read story of this event and i love it. I want to learn more. Could you give me some sources to read?

[covert tendon]

Personally I'd recommend the actual in-game notes and other bits of story (but of course if you don't have full masteries that's not very complete info), you could also check the fandom wiki on hunt showdown

[rotund ferry]

Scrapbeak does technically leave his hidey hole to scavenge for the same gear and weapons he drops when you damage him

Scrapbeak is what'd we call a class A hoarder

[covert tendon]

Well now that just makes it scarier to know that the crow looking bastard is out there collecting axes like some sort of lumberjack

Also wouldn't that actually be a fair way to capture or ambush him? Like a child, just set down a bunch of shiny stuff on the road into a cage or something and watch him waddle in

[rotund ferry]

Possibly

Not in game ofc but lorewise you could lure scrapbeak with items he might be interested in

[covert tendon]

Then, by my own method of elimination would he be the easiest boss (lorewise) to beat?
Then we would have The Butcher
Then Spider
And finally I think the Assassin I'd the most dangerous since he can make apparitions of himself to distract hunters

[rotund ferry]

Honestly if you have even a basic knowledge of pest control and hunting animals you yourself could probably take out these bosses

Butcher is a malformed mutated pig thing
Scrapbeak is a literal dude with mechanical legs
Spider is like human centipede but a spider and not a centipede
And assassin is like this collection of insects

Assassin out of the 4 would undoubtedly be the most difficult to handle but scrapbeak and spider are easy

Spider is weak to fire and is just a bundle of human body parts fixed into a spider-like appearance and the poison wouldn't be an issue just wear protective clothing so it can't sting or bite you

Butcher isn't weak to fire but has all its meaty bits hanging out and is weak to sharp objects

Scrapbeak is once again just a dude with mechanical legs and can easily be lured into a trap of some kind

Assassin is the one I know least about tbh with my encounters

Ironically though the most difficult boss game wise would be spider because it rushes around the lair and can't always be confronted head on

[covert tendon]

But assuming their in game lore is transported to real life, the "bugs" from the Assassin wouldn't be easy to take down as they are explained to not be bugs and more like devilish beings, hence why they die when you kill their possessed/infected host.

For Spider I actually don't think protective clothing would work or be any effective, because as we can see when it pounces on you it's stingers seem to be waaaay more enlarged than what any protective equipment can give you, you also have to consider the grunts and other marked ones. Since let's say you find a protective equipment big and formidable enough to withstand spiders stabbing and stinging, I'm assuming it would have to be thick (again supposing we are in the timeframe of the game: 1895) and very big sort of like a makeshift juggernaut suit or eod suit but made of leather and other sowing materials. You not only become slower but much more louder, sure small grunts and even the hives can't harm you anymore since you basically have a ton of layers of filling to protect you, but now you have to carry the weight, heat of the protective suit, the ammo for your weapon, your weapon and whatever else equipment you bring and then find the spider somewhere in the damp Bayou hoping you don't trip and fall like a turtle on your back by someone smacking or pouncing you.

You'd basically become the equivalent of a meathead, without the maneuverability. While fighting a foe that as you said, can just skitter frantically around the lair and would be a hell to take down with your limited mobility

[small abyss]

To be fair if the game was truly accurate most hunters would be fat rednecks 😆

[rotund ferry]

Maybe if the game took place in Appalachia Tennessee but it takes place in New Orleans Louisiana

I like how some legendary hunters embrace voodoo culture which even if your only knowledge of Louisiana American history is from the Disney film The princess and the frog was very apparent in the Bayou and Louisiana

And if you're unfamiliar with voodoo culture I would definitely recommend taking a peak at it's history because it's got some of the craziest and wild things in it that almost seem magical almost

The rainbow and the snake is also a good film depicting voodoo culture

During the late 1800's exactly the time period hunt showdown takes place there was a considerable shift in voodoo culture from it's place of origin in Haiti to the good old state of Louisiana so generously gifted to the United States by Napoleon Bonaparte and the French Republic

Even though Hunt showdown is a game featuring a cryptid paranormal phenomenon and an exaggeration of gunslinger culture in the West it still holds a hefty amount of historical accuracy in the lore of the game

[high stone]

I dunno about the Cryptid part, pardner

Rainbow and the Snake is good though!

I just learned about Baron Samedi, the voodoo top hat skull face guy they always caricature for voodoo stuff in the Deep South

Pretty interesting

[high stone]

Why do you say it’s an exaggeration of gunslinger culture?

[small abyss]

Which is mostly fat rednecks

[noble scarab]

To be fair back then most of them had yet to get fat

[icy brook]

We need a legendary hunter who doesn’t go into the dead zone to collect bounties or murder people, but is just there to loot houses and dead hunters

[ionic mist]

Ok, for real, Does Scrapbeak lay eggs? i need a DEV

[fallen sequoia]

No
IT's just a amputee dude dressed in a bird costume

[fallen sequoia]

Hunter of Hunters

Hunt down hunters who had gone crazy from the demon blood

[untold blaze]

That’s some Bloodborne shit and I dig it

Like that one dudette with the crow mask

[fallen sequoia]

She is like a milf or something lol

[untold blaze]

That’s awesome lmao, both a milf and got the plague doctor vibe goin on

[fallen sequoia]

The real question is how have people not commercialized Water Devils yet? Like that right there is like infinite food source lmao.

[untold blaze]

Y’know, I imagine the redneck has been like, deep frying water devils for about the entire time this has been going on in the Bayou

[fallen sequoia]

they are like some kinda fish or eel right?
They are probably edible

[untold blaze]

I think so, I think their like Lamprey’s but extra carnivorous

Their probably not too nutritious but taste pretty solid

[fallen sequoia]

Water Devils are solution for world hunger?

😳

They are like genetically engineered to breed and mature to full size in like 10 seconds

[untold blaze]

They genuinely might be the in lore solution for world hunger, because their like not poisonous or made out of people or anything, so it probably isn’t wrong to eat them

What do you reckon would be the best way to cook them though

Cause you can fry em, deep fry em, stir fry em, broil them, boil them, steam them, sauté them, the list goes on like, forever

[ionic mist]

@fallen sequoia then explain the Eggs!

[fallen sequoia]

IDK man
Prob from the local supermarket

[jagged tide]

Found an Inferno-easter-egg

[high stone]

I think the Monster mastery stuff says they might be some kind of worm

[small abyss]

True

[neat juniper]

I mean
Worms are one of the best types of food out there if it wasn't for their size and, well, our disgust of them

So if there was some mighty brave hunter out there that contrabanded water devils out of bayou and made a restaurant out of them

That sounds pretty good

Especially if he doesn't say what food is made of

[jagged thistle]

If you look closely, you can see Waterdevils are in fact a big "school" of leeches swarming around in a group. So I don't know if they're edible

[untold blaze]

Ye of little faith, anything’s edible if you deep fry it enough

[neat juniper]

Meat is meat
Everything is edible

[untold blaze]

My man 🤝

[neat juniper]

Exactly

[untold blaze]

Hell yeah

[neat juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-trust-chest-pound-brotherhood-gif-17669441

[untold blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/arms-crossed-flex-muscles-gif-14905270

[jagged thistle]

*distant america noises*

[untold blaze]

Damn straight I’m American my dude

[jagged thistle]

My wildly random guess was apparently correct then

[untold blaze]

Spot on my dude

[loud steeple]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ouLAco_qc2E

[untold blaze]

Dude, I just rewatched that movie like, yesterday lmao

[tall vigil]

Man, I’ve eaten roadkill. You can eat anything long as you cook it right. Get some nice hot rolls, butter them up, maybe some mashed potatoes to even out the fried Water Devil.

Dammit, I made myself hungry.

[upbeat kiln]

My god I love your name

[sour edge]

I just checked the bestiary tab and it is so cool. I love it being like a newspaper/investigation

[noble scarab]

eating things from the corruption is how we got water devils in the first place tho

so might not be the best idea

[neat juniper]

It iz what it iz

[high stone]

Haha That’s true…I have a feeliing you can’t eat these worms though

[neat juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

[high stone]

I think there’s a point where bacteria have filled old meat with so much poisonous waste that you can’t even cook it out

Just trash, unfortunately

[untold blaze]

Thank you my dude

[clear holly]

we all know what he’s holding, right?

[noble scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/eels-escalators-eelsand-escalators-spongebob-spongebob-eels-gif-25113876

[rotund ferry]

Yeah 😂

There was just a conversation in here about how you could eat them

[untold blaze]

Mhm

You can cook em in any way humanly possibly

[rotund ferry]

boil 'em

[untold blaze]

Fry em

Deep fry em

Stir fry em

Sauté em

Steam em

Broil em

Turn em into a sandwich

Shrimp cocktail

Popcorn shrimp

Coconut shrimp

That’s about it

[feral swift]

What is the benefit to use pre-pledged hunter? Can't find this info .
Thanks

[untold blaze]

Event point boost

And use the questions channel

Cause this is for lore

[wispy creek]

manmade horrors beyond comprehension

[clear holly]

I‘m hungry now. Where can I get some deep fried water devils?

With cocktail sauce or a nice Aioli.

[untold blaze]

Mmmmm

Lucky, that looks delicous

[covert tendon]

Has this place just turned into a place to put our ideas on how to cook a water devil?

[untold blaze]

Ever since I brought it up a while back I reckon so

I just Bubba’d it lmao

[clear holly]

Sorry. I was letting myself go. Must be the christmas made fixation on food.

[covert tendon]

I don't even think it's bad, it's just odd we went from actual lore discussion to "what would be a good side dish for a water devil main course"

[untold blaze]

No need to apologize man, I getcha

[untold blaze]

I understand what you mean my friend, and it was a wee diddy odd and I admit that my friend

[covert tendon]

But let's be honest, as weird as it is. It's hilarious that people actually came up with serious ideas

[untold blaze]

I agree wholeheartedly lmao

Folks will eat literally anything

Hell, I was thinking, if the flys that the Hive’s produce would be edible

[foggy sundial]

Hives would be an infinite source of food just need to shoot up a antidote shot then bring them towards a fire and free cooked bugs

[spare mason]

Diseased bugs

[foggy sundial]

Or even the beetles the size of teacup chihuahuas

[foggy sundial]

That’s what a city boy would say who is scared to die in the bayou

Kevin Linus is trying to destroy me chary just for a marketing strategy where he sells monster themed food

Beetle bars

[spare mason]

Deep fried devil (water devil)

[foggy sundial]

Grunt ghoulash

[spare mason]

Spider soup

[loud steeple]

Meathead meatballs

[untold blaze]

Those last three are straight up cannibalism lmao

[foggy sundial]

That’s what a city got would say

[rotund ferry]

I'm not eating diseased monsters

The water devil is the only thing I'd even consider in a survival situation

[untold blaze]

I’d gladly eat any of it tbh

[visual finch]

You shouldn't, seeing it's lore

[untold blaze]

Fair point, lmao

[rotund ferry]

Bottom line, just let the gators come back

I'll eat gator any day of the week

[untold blaze]

I’ll gladly eat any of it, cause food is good

Long as it ain’t rotten I’m happy

[fallen sequoia]

He's holding snakes (snacks)

[fallen sequoia]

water devil is like infinite food source
I bet it won't even taste bad it's like eels on crack

[untold blaze]

It probably tastes like gator

Considering that they ate most of the gators in the bayou

And I can confirm that gator, is tasty

[sleek crest]

It is tasty

[restive patrol]

hmmm, maybe new map hint? First mention of any state besides Louisiana with in-game items, rather than any text mentions in the books.

[icy brook]

https://tenor.com/view/naughty-dog-naughty-dog-he-knows-smirk-gif-17855811

Nice

[icy brook]

More Colorado references

[wraith cove]

Hmmmm

[neat juniper]

coleorade reference

[wraith cove]

[neat juniper]

[rotund ferry]

Does the Kid have any lore significance?

Or is he just like, a Blank slate?

[untold blaze]

He’s legit just Billy the Kid

[rotund ferry]

Yes

[untold blaze]

Yes

[primal jolt]

Blank slate?

Custom ammo type for slate??

Blanks 🤩

[high stone]

Leaning into the CowBois

[icy brook]

[valid arrow]

just read Bad As They Seem

reinvigorated my desire to play this game

[tardy citrus]

It’s definitely an interesting story

[valid arrow]

I was not aware of how occult things were in this universe 😅

[noble scarab]

you mean all of the blood, sigils, charms, bones, literal voodoo doctors, monsters, dead men, references to tarot, rituals, and so much more?

[small abyss]

@noble scarab I've saw none of that in my 1.5k hours. You goth kids smh.

[noble scarab]

Swamp Goth^TM

[small abyss]

Really wish someone would make lore videos on hunters

I love the content guys, but its always monsters and the basic stuff.

Or the moon events

[rotund ferry]

Same

I'm curious to know the back story about Prodigal daughter

[valid arrow]

Fin turns into a snake monster then jormangundr erupts from the earth 😭 in game the most i can do is heal 2x with medpacks

But yeah, I guess I was overlooking it

Necromancer n stuff

I like how dnd campaigny it feels, funny that when in hell the worst thing that happens is they get challanged to a contest

[foggy sundial]

The end will be that Mr chary is the DM and Kevin is just a guy who wanted to fuck with the DM

[noble scarab]

Chary is an op-self insert DM-NPC

Kev is a power gaming wizard that’s abusing resurrection

[high stone]

You see a head wearing a Cattleman Hat, you click on it…it’s that simple

[slate apex]

Which traits are canonical and which aren’t?

[high stone]

I’m not sure what you mean

I think they pretty much exist in the gameplay only…I don’t think they’re explained in any stories??

[slate apex]

I just wanted to know for a duo RP thing if any perks would be unavailable due to the lore

[high stone]

Hm, I’m not sure!

[slate apex]

Alrighty

[valid arrow]

in the story they mention both being quiet as cats (lightfoot) and running like a mad hare (adrenaline)

just two i remember of the top of my head

[tall vigil]

I also remember reading that the Bone Doctor, Dr. John, was known for his mystical healing powers—possibly Necromancer?

Someone like the Reptilian definitely has Gator Legs. And skills that let you throw farther, stab with the bow, or remain in iron sights are just normal skills someone could acquire with practice.

[untold blaze]

He was the one that brought the Revenant back to life, so Necro works

[noble scarab]

traits are canon, they just may be expressed differently than in-game

[upbeat kiln]

I fucking love the way you describe things Tib hahaha

[rotund junco]

My brain is still viciously curious about who the voice actors in the wax recordings from the event are

I swear i hear Matthew Mercer

[empty owl]

to me it sounded more like the person who voiced augustus sinclair from the second bioshock game

[humble ridge]

So, Wolfsbane and Blister skins was both released along with wolf themed legendary hunters. Do they connected lore-wise? Or at least thematically?

[fringe lichen]

someone help me solve this problem, for the love of GOD, my ping is very good warzone game without problem, other games without connection problem and only this shit happens, I'm from south america, my ping is great in relation to other games, I've done everything to repair the game about 2000x already

[noble scarab]

thematically

[quartz linden]

Can someone explain Chapter 10?

[noble scarab]

Our boy kev is in some kinda limbo where he meets his family before being rezed again

But that’s also a dime novel entry so it may or may not actually have happened, who knows, not crytek

[small abyss]

@fringe lichen this is lore chat my man, try game questions

[high stone]

I’ve always thought what Dr. John did with the Revenant was something different/ more special than “Necromancer,” since it seems like Revenant was cold and in the ground (and is now bone white!)

Necromancer seems like a psychic/telekinetic revival….the name could be a misnomer/ Hunter slang

Does anyone know what “Night-Speaking” is in the lore? I thought I saw that somewhere…

[untold blaze]

Good point

Dude was well past the “I’m bleeding out in the mud” phase

[noble scarab]

Its a rank in with the Night cult

or i suppose a person

[quartz linden]

Isnt that chapter 11? 10 is the weird song with the text that doesnt fit with the song at all.

[noble scarab]

Is it? I guess I looked at the wrong one. In that case it’s a port sulphur band recording

[real dove]

as far as I know, her mom was a spy in the Civil war working for the union, but seems to have been assassinated/murdered by some folks in the AHA (one of the bullets on her rifle has Elwood carved into it, possibly Elwood finch?) . So she takes up her mom's stuff and heads into the swamp for revenge. not sure what more has been dug up, but I agree, I'd love some deeper hunter lore.

[quartz linden]

But why is the text and song different?

[noble scarab]

Crytek mistake maybe?

[quartz linden]

Seems weird to write a text and then record a song but they are nothing a like haha

[rotund ferry]

Very cool thanks 👍

[foggy spindle]

got a legendary at 2.5k and now one at 5k less go

[neat juniper]

Wrong channel, buddy
But good for you

[foggy spindle]

oh yh my bad lol didnt realise i was in this one

[spiral lynx]

Inferno is bad guys
Lunar good guys
grounded is neutral
do i understand this correctly?

[celest notch]

Sounds more or less right

Actually I don't really think there are good or bad

Just 2 sides

Inferno and lunar dont like each other, they are both good and bad, grounded is just neutral, they don't care

[wraith cove]

I may be mistook but i dont think its ever stated that the moon particularly even cares about the sculptor and corruption it just doesnt like chary

[spiral lynx]

actually thats what i think as well

[foggy sundial]

Yo fuck my chary all my homies hate him, even the fucking moon

[quartz linden]

Alteast Kevin didnt torture a woman to madness like Chery (that we know of)

[upper plinth]

Is there a video on YT or a post anywhere that explains the lore of the events?
I'm so happy to see Kevin as a playable character from the Serpent Moon event.

[opaque jetty]

did u read all the pins?

[noble scarab]

My brother in the AHA, kev is playable

[upper plinth]

What pin?

[noble scarab]

Also check out @upbeat kiln his YouTube is the best for lore

[upper plinth]

Thanks.

[opaque jetty]

pinned posts in this channel

[earnest jungle]

At absolute best Chary is a man who’s so blinded by ambition and his war against the sculptor that he is blind to the consequences of his own actions.

[celest notch]

Just like sheriff