lore-discussion

[ripe inlet]

Some kind a easter egg. You can find this dolls everywhere. Usually creepy spots.

[torn schooner]

Because in the world hunt I can’t trust anyone whose not in my posse. Regardless of affiliation, age, gender or race. We are all out here hunting monsters while also harnessing the power of said monsters. Why in the hell would I trust someone I don’t know and who would know if I kill them?

[craggy comet]

there are different factions operating inside of the AHA, each one of them with different goals and beliefs

[neat juniper]

There are cultists, there are profiteers, there are "the good guys" and they all fighting

[high ridge]

you are not forced to kill other players, you dont "win" by killing them

[neat juniper]

You just gain more wealth

[fair pecan]

you can avoid other players and even team up with them (if they agree too)

[high ridge]

but hey, can you really trust them ?

who knows if they will shoot you as soon as you turn your back to them

[fair pecan]

you can't trust them

[strange gazelle]

Is there any official cannon to the reason Hunters are killing each other or is it just "el oh el git gud and yOu dOnT hAvE tO pVp"?

I love the pvp. Dont get me wrong, just curious as to the reason I'm doing it haha

[neat juniper]

As i've said, they just don't like each other. Some are cultists who adore the bayou, some are lawful people who want to contain it. Unow the drill

Once it's more than 14 people somewhere, there will be war

[strange gazelle]

Still seems silly.

[neat juniper]

Well, being a cultist also seems silly for anyone who isn't aknowledging they are one

So it is what it is, it's all in point of view

Oh and also it's 1900, life wasn't that precious in those times

[strange gazelle]

So no official cannon/lore I'm taking it?

[icy brook]

There are also hunters who are simply in the bayou to kill other people for sport

[neat juniper]

Well i mean, that's the official lore. They just have different desires that contradict one another

And penhux is correct also

All sorts of people enter bayou

[strange gazelle]

xD

[neat juniper]

But only those who are willing to kill another can leave alive

[strange gazelle]

The creators really have everything almost perfect in this game, except for the Hunters killing each other plot hole. Which is pretty significant to the game. If anyone can find something on this topic, please let me know. I find it interesting and curious.

[neat juniper]

[icy brook]

I mean when a solo hunter can fairly easily take out two bosses and extract there isn’t a reason for hunter parties to team up

Other than the protection they offer each other in duos and trios

[grizzled pilot]

Thats just the gameplay
In the lore bosses are a lot more dangerous

[neat juniper]

@upbeat kiln idk am i explaining this poorly to this man, you try, you are a pro in explaining lore

[fair pecan]

Why? I think you're underestimating how easily humans can kill each other. The Bayou is in a lawless state and there is money to make. Doesn't seem silly that bad people would kill the competition without thinking about it.

[grizzled pilot]

Yeah and a lot of those ppl have very real grudges against each other and they might go in there just to settle the and not for the bounty
Also a lot of ppl do team up, there is plenty of factions with diffrent motivations

[neat juniper]

There is for example a lonely howl who is literally canonically a serial killer who just wants to kill people

Well i mean, he is more of a hunter that wants more challenging prey

But it's minor details

[icy brook]

It’s also important to bear in mind most factions and hunters don’t care about eliminating the corruption, it’s just another job for them

[grizzled pilot]

Very good point

You can look at it as a social commentary on modern politcs
Like there is a shit tone of factions that could work together and solve the whole mess but they are too buisy filling their own pockets and indulging their base desires without the big picture in mind
Same goverments ignore lets say global warming and focus on exploiting others for their benefit
Coule be reaching but whatever

[neat juniper]

EXACTLY

It won't change no matter if the big threat is of supernatural means. It's just another way to gain more money

Yea we may all die in the future, but it's problems of future generations

[icy brook]

Whatever the hunters do accomplish it must work, given other events were resolved and able to be covered up

[night sage]

maybe the sculptor was the enemies we made along the way

[craggy comet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=803IUEgOBfE&t=9s

that's the official explanation

[upbeat kiln]

Haha I think you did just fine. The trailer that @craggy comet posted also summarizes just about everything.

[earnest jungle]

Found some new wanted posters

[versed wedge]

You can argue that the sculptor absolutely sucks at the job and the Lunch Hunter serum has over-buffed hunters that demand can't keep up with supplies hence the constant pruning.

Check out the Blackmarket for the legendary hunter contracts, they basically have to murder the competition or they don't get paid.

[jagged tide]

In "bad-as-they-seem" one of the twins is performing a ritual to summon that "Kingsnake". She uses 7 Snakes, a dog, a palm-leave and a length of metal at the coast. Since we now can actually gather snakes during the event, I wonder if there might be some hidden easter-egg, allowing you to repeat this ritual.

I mean, with the cowboy-fish-puzzle hinting towards De-Salle, I could imagine there being some very well hidden gems... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2YJr0fs6AU

[vital seal]

This Game is Fucked up with High pingers and those who Abuse them and Report brings nothing they have to fix this crap faster then a New Boss or Map

[upbeat kiln]

Wrong channel ❤️

[glad verge]

did hatfish move recently? I think I saw that he moved again

[noble scarab]

Yes he did, he should be back in his boat now

Unsure if he totally moved locations tho, but I’ll keep an eye out

[noble scarab]

update, he has just gotten his luggage together

[glad verge]

maybe he's traveling again

[icy brook]

Honestly with the massive calendar duration of the serpent moon even it wouldn’t surprise me if the devs are gearing up for something big

[native grove]

magical shotguns that shoot through rock

from medieval to magic kingdom 🤣

[boreal veldt]

where can i find this mystical being

[noble scarab]

the pond next to heritage pork

[boreal veldt]

thank you thank you

[torn schooner]

Lets make this easy to understand IG. Cultists worship what the sculpture is doing (its more complex tahn that but lets just dumb it down) and the Lawmen hate and want to contain it

[gleaming lodge]

Hunt: Showdown.

[tired spear]

What's the ties of the Daughter of Decay with the current event?

(if there's been any lore explanation for her or the reasons why she's giving the event boost as well)

[noble scarab]

No official reason yet, assumedly it’s just so people that buy the dlc won’t feel screwed out of the event bonus. Lore wise I suppose I could see her being a fan of the moon. Harvest moon and all that

[dull hill]

hi im new to the server just wanted to ask are there any lore topics that are discussed often like insiders (i really love hunt and want to know all about it)

[neat juniper]

So far i noticed a lot of discussions about how this particular legendary hunter is connected to some others, basically inter-person lore. You also can make a lot of jokes about how meatheads are made as a contrast to the normally popular in communities joke saying the thiccest charactet is the hottest, if you know how meatheads are made - you know, aand basically lots of sculptor(the biggest corruption source) why and where and how

Welcome to the bayou, hunter.

[dull hill]

thank u very much... a true Gentleman

[torn schooner]

So is Luna Wolf and Dire Wolf the parents of lonely howl?

[craggy comet]

yep

[torn schooner]

And Lonely Howl killed Dire Wolf and is hiding in the bayou?

[craggy comet]

He tried, and failed

[neat juniper]

We stan the lonely howl, did nothing wrong

[craggy comet]

his parents are still hunting him in the bayou

[neat juniper]

He did nothing wrong nontheless tho

[night sage]

Wait isnt dire wolf his brother?

And the lonely howl killed his father so the mother and brother now hunt him

[craggy comet]

they are father and son

[vivid dagger]

He's just doing what makes him happy, nothing wrong with that

[icy brook]

Here is a “cure all” bottle in situ, this style is highly reminiscent of bottles popular in the Hunt era, and reminded me of the Spirit of Yule skin

[neat juniper]

Or of the last word

[icy brook]

That too lol

[neat juniper]

[topaz mirage]

it was aliens behind the virus

there is conlusive evidence

[neat juniper]

How can you say so and not consider that first aliens were wiped by said virus and then brought it to us while trying to escape?

[wraith cove]

didnt someone a while back say they were making some sort of chart that shows all connections lore wise between characters

[tulip pier]

What's the thingy with GM on the kids right hand

[rotund ferry]

It is called America's Hunter Association, right? The group that the hunters are apart of

[noble scarab]

Yep, the good ol’ AHA

[lunar plume]

So who’s running the association now? The dr. Is dead and lynch is…somewhere, who’s collecting the bounties and calling them out?

[junior pecan]

Elwood Finch continues his quasi quartermaster role, paying for bounties and presumably contracts. Mr Cherry is the new "administrator" whatever the hell that entails.

As of this event, iirc.

[noble scarab]

he became the new administra(i)tor sometime before the traitors moon presumably by just showing up one day and saying he was it

really wish we had some more background on Chary and his rise to power

itd have been so much better if he'd been announced as the head of the whole AHA or if it'd been explained more as to how he persuaded the various factions he was now in charge

[plain rain]

So. In the Louisiana event scrapbook.
Under Rittmeister Letter (Pages 13-14)

He talks about an encounter with a "wind drake".

Does anyone know anything about that? Was this just a random mention of something that never comes back up again since then?

[noble scarab]

sadly most of the Louisiana case book stuff is non-canon now

[plain rain]

Ohhhhhhh. I see. Well that clears that up. When in game. Too busy playing. So while at work, been going through all the lore stuff and saw that part so.

Thanks for the perfect answer!

[noble scarab]

bits and pieces of it still are semi-canon until contradicted, stuff like the dude describing the first encounter with the Sculptor and probably the account from the Sinners coming to Hunt djinn

[empty owl]

i think i remember a piece of lore from one of the martini entries that states "the AHA and powell's cult were close allies, until their goals went against one another" or something among the lines of that

maybe its referring to the event? considering how isaac were discussing plans with chary when chary introduced the viper to him

found it, its under the incendiary rounds

[craggy comet]

this piece, refers to the incident between Nadia (Night Acolyte) and the Jason Trevors (Carcass Gunrunner) where she almost got killed. The cult and the gunrunner used to do business together. Maybe, Chary has offered a better deal to Trevors, just like Nora did when they both tried to take over Timothy's (Skinflint) business. The thing is that all that lore was presented to us way before the creation of Chary, so, until Crytek speaks up, Chary can be used to fill in any gap in the story.

[neat juniper]

Why did sculptor invade us?
Oh it was chary, he summoned sculptor

Why did lonely howl go so deranged that decided to kill a father?
Oh it was chary manipulating

[craggy comet]

According to lonely howl's bio, he just wanted to be the Alpha Wolf of the pack. because of reasons.

[neat juniper]

So it is still possible that our sweet summerchild lonelyhowl was manipulated

Btw chary just unlocked me a swamp peaches skin, so we can blame that on him as well

[empty owl]

he's just tired of being a beta male and wanted to be a chad like his dad lol

[icy brook]

Freud moment

[harsh delta]

Is there a place where I can read more on hunters story? The snippet in "Toggle Bio" at recruit screen is very limited.

[icy brook]

The steam store page for the DLC hunters has additional info, the trials have some, some of the weapon mastery pages have some as well

[harsh delta]

Thanks. So it's largely spread out throughout different entities?

[icy brook]

Yeah it takes some piecing together, the pinned messages might be a good place to start

[craggy comet]

I made a video talking a lit bit about every legendary hunter released so far. It is not in English, but I added subtitles if you want to give it a try
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJh_apeYa9w&t=922s

[torn schooner]

Its very common place for male wolves to fight the alpha male in order to assert dominance and they are a very wolf packish type of group so it makes sense that he would attempt to kill the alpha male to take his place.

He wasn't manipulated (unless crytek says other wise) and he just attacked his father in an attempt to get the alpha spot.

[glad verge]

I don't get the bomblance

how would you hunt with that?

wouldn't it ruin the carcass or is the explosion a fighting thing?

[neat juniper]

You need to hunt only the bosses, and to succesfully hunt them you'll need only a little bit that was left after a banishing ritual, and bomblance was created specifically for the bayou, to ease going through it and all pf those stuffs

[noble scarab]

it previously was a harpoon used for whale fishing. for that you need a projectile, a non-explosive one, but one that has a rope attached, and normally you'd toss it and it'd get caught in the whale. the bomblance is just the more modified cousin

[neat juniper]

Ye, but BOMBlance was modified specifically for bayou

[jolly helm]

Guy i lost my house i blame Mr Chary

[upbeat kiln]

Still waiting for Crytek to give me harpoons or javelins

I wanna

[harsh delta]

Obrigado!

[jolly helm]

YES PLZ

That would be sick as hell!!!

[empty owl]

i'm waiting for crytek to add the sharps carbine

[icy brook]

That would be nice

[icy brook]

La Boeuf moment

[restive patrol]

https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/hunt-showdown-serpent-moon-live-event extra lore on Viper included in this post

including confirmation that in the Hunt Universe, the Order of Assassins barely survived to the late 19th century

[placid girder]

I'd love to see a redcoat skin. Then they could have a triple skin sale with turncoat and the one eye'd bluecoat guy.

[torn schooner]

Does the redcoat have some less than savory lore to it in American history

[noble scarab]

i mean, the whole american revolution thing

then the invasion of 18-something (1812?)

[maiden forge]

Yep 1812

[vivid dagger]

That would have to be a push to find some redcoat guy still alive and with a cause like that alive, in America, especially Louisiana, in 1897.

[placid girder]

They could have a French soldier that stayed in America after actually. "Frenchcoat"

Baggettcoat

Ok they should actually have a chef. That would be amazing. His melee is a sharpened piece of hard bread. It's a machete skin.

[neat juniper]

Isn't that just playable butcher(a.k.a. carcass gunrunner) with extra steps?

[noble scarab]

I think a British big game hunter should be a given

Or you could swing a red coat soldier, just saying a dude found grandpappys old regimental attire and headed to the bayou

[neat juniper]

Tbf, it is both weird and not that there is not that many brits in bayou

Because like, a war and brits would have hard time just chilling in lousiana, but also not really

[torn schooner]

That still probably wouldn't float very well in america.

[noble scarab]

The AHA tolerates confederates, cavemen and other assorted degenerates, so a red coat isn’t out of question imo

[neat juniper]

Well yeah

[simple carbon]

The British had territories around the world why does the read coat have to be apart of the AHA and not part of say the sinners or something

[slow linden]

So the taxidermist who made the butcher, can you find his corpse in the still water bayou map?

[upbeat kiln]

Not that I know of, unfortunately

[slow linden]

The man himself responded

I thought I found a corpse that matched the description since one eye was still there

But it looked like a real eye and not glass

[upbeat kiln]

Haha no way. You got a screenshot? 😄

[slow linden]

Nah I’d have to find it again

[upbeat kiln]

Ah, okay. Where was it?

[slow linden]

Let me pull up a map

I remember seeing a corpse in this area that had one eye still there

But it’s model was the typical zombie grunt with one eye

[upbeat kiln]

Hm.. Yeah.. That's also a long run with the Butcher chasing you lol

[slow linden]

He must of Swallowed a bee or something. Poisoned the whole way there swallowed

That 150m poison sense

[rocky spade]

Are the frisks swedish?

[wraith cove]

something i found out last night thats p cool is the ethyl and jana duel lemats are heavily related to carter

[craggy comet]

they were twins, and famous Carter's show members, who tried to hunt down Felis.

[exotic glen]

Every time someone starts to talk about lore. I just get these memes in my head.

[noble scarab]

tldr spooky shit causes swamp cowboys to shoot each other for money

[exotic glen]

Yeah. Thats all i need to know. If it moves. Kill it.

[exotic glen]

Take what to feedback ?

[earnest jungle]

Not you some guy complaining about the state of the game

[earnest jungle]

Some guy came in to complain about the state of the game on console

[exotic glen]

oh. yee OG message was already deleted i see

[dim oxide]

I'm on ch.8 of the snake event and man it keeps hooking me into stuff

[neat juniper]

Great, great, so our plan is working out splendidly

[bold tiger]

A better description would be cowboys shoot at each other for money in a swamp where spooky shit happens

Pretty much until the last event the shooting at each other was almost entirely divorced from the spooky shit

[neat juniper]

spooky shit did nthn wrong

people kill each other from their own accord

spooky shit just tries to exist

[noble scarab]

spooky shit out here tryin to terraform our dimension

[neat juniper]

And we are here rn trying to actually destroy our dimension with all our factories

Spooky shit is just extra vegan

[opaque jetty]

man I was so excited for the lore and voiceover from event, and it was such a letdown that it wasn't someone with a "wild west" or bayou voice 😦

[noble scarab]

I'd be willing to bet that Hazmat would do a dramatic reading once the event is done

[neat juniper]

@upbeat kiln will ya

[upbeat kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/dicaprio-maybe-gif-20413224

[rotund ferry]

Gonna be honest hunt showdown lore has jumped the shark

Totally lost interest from the event’s storytelling

[rotund ferry]

It’s so hard to take the event story seriously so anything would be an improvement at this point

[glad verge]

I feel the same way, the moon being alive?

[fiery wraith]

Moon being alive is pretty cool actually, they just haven't done much with it

[swift spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/floof-floofy-moon-solana-gif-25247236

[noble scarab]

The whole moon being alive and magic thing kinda came out of nowhere. We have references to certain gods of the sun and moon, as well as Hunters that worship the sun/it’s power, but Hunts lore has never really been so firm with the existence of beings beyond the Sculptor and maybe Lynch

[glad verge]

does Lynch has some kind of power or ability? I hear about him a lot but don't know anything

[noble scarab]

Lynch is an otherworldly entity similar to the Sculptor, at least according to BATS. She’s the one that taught the AHA how to make the new serum with demons blood, and invented many of the more horrid weapons the Hunters use

[glad verge]

oh wow, I thought Lynch was a leader of a cult or something, ok

[thick sierra]

I think that a lot of supernatural settings typically have some kind of big lore, like the big thing about Innistrad is that the moon is also alive, the moon being alive is not exactly uncommon for a horror trope.

Lunar deities are also pretty big cultural concept.

[vivid dagger]

What were the experiments with mood improvements the doctors of the prisons were doing, where inmates would draw with blood on the walls to the point they whittled their finger to bone?

[empty owl]

no clue on that one but apparently its somehow connected to the AHA in some way via the solomon jabez letters

my guess is that its some kind of a prison that the AHA uses as a blacksite or sort

[rotund ferry]

this game got lore tf 💀
thats fire

[earnest adder]

Gang

Who is mr.chary

Please reply to this with an @ so I can see it

[neat juniper]

@earnest adder mr.chary is a manager of AHA(american hunter association) and by manager i mean a higher up but not quite the leader/creator
Mr.chary in his wicked brain ways decides "ooh, yeah that'll be so pog if i learn dark arts"
And so we are here

That's tldr version, of course

[rotund ferry]

”that’ll be so pog if i learn dark arts”

i hope that was his actual quote

[earnest adder]

This has been enlightening, thank you

[neat juniper]

Since actual quote wasn't revealed to us yet, we can make it come true

[modern marsh]

Before Huff was yeeted out of position, were hunters, like, not that much against eachother, or did i just make this up?

[tribal frigate]

Under Huffs leadership the AHA mostly worked together to fight the forces at play here. After his death the AHA began to collapse and the multiple factions within it began fighting each other.

[modern marsh]

So I'm not losing the track, thanks for clarification

[neat juniper]

Is monroe actually mentally sick at the time of the bayou where we play, because he doesn't seem to act like someone sick in all his lore that i can find, he only wanted to escape from a place simular to prison, but with extra sprinkle of torture and commit self delete with a shotgun
And when he failed he even realised that life is worth living and all
So doesn't seem too insane to me

Basically what i am asking, what's the deal with monroe

[jagged tide]

Many of the inhabitants of the Jackson asylum were not mentally ill, but touched by the supernatural - making them interesting for both: AHA-recruits & test-subjects. Why can Monroe fight in the Bayou without being initiated? Because he was touched by the supernatural? Or because he was initiated during his time as a guinea-pig? Maybe he was not a full-blown lunatic but just had some "normal" mental health issues: A breakdown, Borderline-syndrome, smthg like this. Just being mentally sick dosent mean, you cant react "normal" in other situations.

Basically: I have no Idea

[neat juniper]

Ah yes, helped a lot thanks

[winter wigeon]

to necro a slightly older discussion in this channel, a british redcoat hunter could work if he were a soldier from somewhere like south africa

survivor from Rourkes drift maybe

[neat juniper]

Ok this sounds pretty cool

[potent merlin]

I mean to be honest, if you think about it failing to sewer slide with a shotty because it hasn't been maintained drives you to religiously maintain it so that it can kill other people seem a bit off.

[rotund ferry]

So I know the bosses in hunt were once human.... did they have names? Or like anything other then just human?

[noble scarab]

The Butcher was never a human, it was a meathead that got taxidermied. The Spider used to be lots of unnamed people, all put in a mass grave, then melded together by the Sculptor into our beloved skittering, ceiling camping boss, the assassin was a former Hunter, named Vincent, friends with the researcher, Harold Black. Scrapbeak was a Civil War veteran by the name of Avis Wyndham

[rotund ferry]

THANK YOUUUUUUUU I knew atleast 2 of them had names and I didnt know tho butcher got taxidermied

[neat juniper]

Is there a lore explanation on why is there sometimes two bosses at once and sometimes one
And if there is why are their respective territories split

^like do they fight for it, is it just hierarchy, maybe sculptor loves some more than other, unow the drill

[simple carbon]

Iirc they all have there own roles to fill in the corrupted area.

So it could be looked at as who is in the area at the time of this particular hunt

[swift spoke]

Am I crazy or is this Forrest Gump waiting for the bus with his box of chocolates.

[neat juniper]

That is indeed

We just ignore the fact that busses didn't exist at the time

Easter eggs ftw

[upbeat kiln]

Maybe he just wanted to make absolutely sure that he got on the bus in time lol

[neat juniper]

I mean

Wouldn't he be late to wherever he going if he waits for the bus for that long

[upbeat kiln]

But he sure wouldn't be late for the bus

[neat juniper]

The bus is independent, time is running away

What would you chase

Something that will be there eventually or something that can be enjoyed for a little bit

[noble scarab]

The territory is a Hunter thing, it’s probably based on whichever is deemed a bigger threat at the time, thus the bigger bounty

[neat juniper]

Oh that is smart

Thanks

[jagged tide]

Sooooo... Banshee-Boss incoming?

[lunar sky]

I refuse to believe the hunters where only hunting a pigman,a Man spider, magician that could turn into roaches and my uncle that collects too many things like scrap copper. Not speculation just my thoughts

[torn schooner]

[glad verge]

if I'm not wrong we are slowly progressing the story, so the sculpter is corrupting things slowly, maybe?

[noble scarab]

Those are just the big ticket items currently, Hunters have spent a long time hunting other entities and otherworldly forces

The Chinese Hunters deal with their Nian and the Natives in America have been stopping various incursions since they showed up

But the modern AHA in old lore evidently got their ass kicked by a poltergeist

So they may have always been incompetent

[neat juniper]

Hell yeah, that's how we roll
Incompetence all the way 😎

Another question! Is bayou monitored by said AHA, like how hard would it be for random person to just show up in bayou

And also clearly aha and whole supernatural bayou thing isn't officially accepted by govemnt
How that even happened

[noble scarab]

The bayou isn’t closely monitored. There is I believe a quarantine order by the governor, but no one really cares. The AHA works as a sort of secret organization that the govt roughly knows about, kinda like a shittier MiB. They receive funding and things from them, but Huff lied to the officials about how bad the infection is and so the govt overall probably has no idea

[neat juniper]

Lied as in worse or lighter

[noble scarab]

As in “oh it’s nothing we got it covered”

[neat juniper]

So lighter

[noble scarab]

Yea

[neat juniper]

I see i see

Ok now let's diagnose legendary hunters with psychology disorders

[noble scarab]

They all psychopaths

[neat juniper]

Redshirt is fine

Redneck is wee bit stubborn

That's all

Maybe researcher is fine

[noble scarab]

Mostly they’re all just bad people, a few are actually crazy, and like 3 are actually there trying to help

[neat juniper]

It is what it is

Can't spoil an apple tree without few good apples appearing

[tribal frigate]

Redshirt is best shirt

[glad verge]

wasn't the black market supposed to add lore?

[lunar sky]

Sigma poltergeist vs incompetent AHA

[potent merlin]

Define fine, my dude put an actual target on himself because a "lol funny bet" if he survives, he gets deeds to some land in California, sure. But I wouldn't say he is fine in the head, and I hope for his sake that the lands in Cali isn't just a plot big enough for an outhouse 🙏🏻

[upbeat kiln]

That about sums it up lol

[neat juniper]

Well, he didn't put himself in mortal danger just for this bet, he merely made it harder for himself, since he already was a hunter
Which is really not that weird, he doesn't stand out that much knowing of all the whiteshirts that are there

And come on, knowing all of this, he even made it easier for himself to survive since most people instinctively would shoot the target and not above it thus making redshirt slightly less vulnerable to headshots

So we can conclude that redshirt is a mastermind

We think he is just a drunkard who does everything for the bet, but he did survive in bayou prior to the bet

So he made it easier for himself AND if he survives he gets bigger reward
Ma man's a genius who found a way to stop putting himself in a grave danger

[visual finch]

I would have done the same

[neat juniper]

And we know that amon is rather smart

So we can clearly see that redshirt is fine by almost every possible definition

[molten forge]

So with the Viper, I get the feeling it is the snake around his neck that is actually controlling the man.

[neat juniper]

You fool, they are clearly in romantic relationship
We can deduce it at least because first viper tier has no snake, yet still acts the same

[molten forge]

Yeah at first they seem to be somewhat religiously worshipping sneks. Though later on it starts looking like the Viper is becoming less of a personality and more of a vessel. At the third skin it looks like a form of ego death.

[random lava]

viper tier 1 has a snake aswell

[molten forge]

New lore: The snake is NixaSnek

[neat juniper]

That
Isn't entirely Impossible

[molten forge]

But nah, I feel the snake is actually in control, and the progress of the skin is the snake having more and more influence

Stage 1 is somewhat symbiotic, Stage 2 the snake has more influence, stage 3 is ego death for the viper and stage 4 is complete takeover

[upbeat kiln]

Snakerman

I'm trademarking that btw

[molten forge]

Not if I trademark it first
Snakerman ™️

[upbeat kiln]

Wow.. Outplayed.. :/

[neat juniper]

Hey pss, hear me out

(edit your first text to make it look like you trademarked first)

[small abyss]

@upbeat kiln you working on a new lore video covering serpents moon?

I got hooked on your batman voice man. Need more lore videos

[rotund ferry]

fax

[upbeat kiln]

Not yet. Currently on the bosses :))

[small abyss]

Nice

[rotund ferry]

hazmat i love you
been watching your videos while playing minecraft

[upbeat kiln]

Thank you ❤️ Glad you enjoy the content

[sly pewter]

is stanley coal company a coal breaker? a coal breaker was a building where coal was seperated into its useful sizes and where impurities got removed. they were popular in the US, especially Pennsylvania in the 1800s

[earnest jungle]

Yes

The coal is mined at King Snake Mine and then processed at Stanley Coal Company

[jagged heath]

The attention to detail in this game is just astounding and because of that, there is one thing that sticks out to me every time i see it. The American flags in game are the design that wasnt made until 1959. Is there a lore friendly explanation for this or was it just something that was missed?

[random lava]

Can you elaborate? I've looked into this since people said this before but the flags are the correct ones from 1895 which is this one AFAIK

[jagged heath]

It seems the problem might be my inability to count if thats the one in the game. I actually took a beat to count them on the big flag in maw battery while the boss was banishing and I came up with 50. I will try again.

[jagged tide]

So, lets see. Which Legendary-Hunters are actually "good" in the sense, that we know that helping the innocent/purging evil has been their main motivation at some point - instead of greed, bloodlust, revenge or their very own agenda...

The Reverend,
The Prescient,
The Researcher,
The Viper,
The Revenant,
The Exile,
The Wayfarer,
Daughter of Decay,
Steel Eyed,
The Witch Hunter,
Marshall Brewer,
Sgt. Bridgewater,
Hail Mary.

That about right?

[craggy comet]

I'd say only Bridgewater. Maybe Marshall Brewer and the natives americans

[grave depot]

While I am practicing my creative writing, I was wondering if there is any reference sheet I can use that charts the whole hunt showdown lore?

[versed wedge]

The church hunters are in danger of going too far off the deep end and just purging everything, especially if another influence starts tricking them into it

[quiet zodiac]

lore

[neat juniper]

@rotund ferry

[rotund ferry]

Is he also part crab?

[neat juniper]

He may be if we believe hard enough

[rotund ferry]

Let the believing begin!

[tardy citrus]

Uh

This is like half irl lore

[rocky bloom]

[tardy citrus]

But what caliber system is used at the time of hunt

[icy brook]

Imperial for the American civilian and military arms, usually fraction of inches followed by max powder charge for black powder cartridges (ie 50-70, 45-90)

Weapons like the lebel and mosin use millimeters for case and projectile dimensions

(8mm and 7.62×54mmR respectively)

[tardy citrus]

What is the .50-.70 for?

[visual finch]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50-70_Government

[tardy citrus]

It’s diameter is a little over half an inch?

[icy brook]

Yup

[limpid valve]

Thats a very above average bullet

[tardy citrus]

That’s massive

Damn

Ig it’s not as long as a .50 cal

But still

That’s medium ammo?!

[warm flower]

It's probably more about firepower than size.
Black powder cartridges aren't the same deal as modern .50 cals.

We're talking 5 times the power.

[tardy citrus]

Yeah

[warm flower]

The bullet is chunky, though, and the game reflects well on that, imo.
It looks and feels good.

[tardy citrus]

Do

Is the Caldwell pax firing those too?

They are both medium ammo in game

But lord wise

[warm flower]

If it's based on the Peacemaker, it should be using .45 Colt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Colt

Brings about 1/3 - 1/2 of the power of the Springfield rounds into action.

But ammo types are varied and there's not a lot of clean ways to implement them in a game system.

The .45 Schofield, for example - which would be in the game used by the Scotfield - was a shorter cartridge, but also uses the 'medium' ammo pool.

It probably just wouldn't be very fun to have to keep track of every ammo type individually.

[tardy citrus]

Yeah

I like how ammo works in hunt rn

I’d be hell to have to work with a special ammo for every gun

One more question tho

Long ammo

Did they group those together based on bullet length?

Cause I don’t think bullet diameter get much bigger than that Springfield cartridge

[warm flower]

Ye, same deal.

Cartridges back then were basically custom-made to fit the rifle they go in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8×50mmR_Lebel

These are Lebel rounds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62×54mmR

And these are the Russian rounds that go into the Mosin-Nagant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8×50mmR_Mannlicher

And these are the Austrian service cartridges that could also be fitted into the Mosin, even though they're not the same size - some guns are more flexible than others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.92×57mm_Mauser

Germans used their own Mauser rounds for it.

[tardy citrus]

Cool

Yeah

They are much longer

But seem to have a smaller diameter than the Springfield

[wraith cove]

all long ammo is basically some variation of .30cal if im not mistaken

[restive patrol]

https://twitter.com/HuntShowdown/status/1566833666348687360?t=aLeXHXTrSmaUqFJU-nGMZg&s=19

Hunt: Showdown | Serpent Moon Live Event (@HuntShowdown)

Although not much has been stated about their origin and nature, they are described as a strong and resistant species, and the research notes seem to point at an erratic, unified movement - a so called "hivemind behavior” - between the beetles and their keepers.

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Twitter · Sep 5, 2022, 5:00 PM

[bold tiger]

Adding more bugs to the game?

[neat juniper]

Those are technically beetles

https://tenor.com/view/adios-despedida-spanish-beatles-musica-gif-4494672

[glad verge]

I'm too lazy, can someone translate the text in the book?

[bold tiger]

Which one? The stuff just above?

[glad verge]

yeah

[paper ginkgo]

Springfield also uses black powder. Black powder rifles usually have big and slow bullets .

[tardy citrus]

Ah

(Faster than martini lol)

[tardy citrus]

Those aren’t the hive bugs?

I thought they were wasps but could be beetles

[bold tiger]

They are moths or bees, the hives ones that is

Or flies. Those from the tweet are something else

[tardy citrus]

I was gonna say maybe they will crawl towards the player and fire would stop them easily or just run

But looks like they use their wings

[torn schooner]

Im hoping it has to do with the next event id love a bee keeper hunter

[tardy citrus]

Detroit: Become a Hive

[rocky sage]

More damned bugs?

Why

[wraith cove]

tier 3 viper be like

[dull harbor]

From the scale of the drawing, I suspect the new beetle thing will be something between the Hive and the Meathead - where there are a smaller number of larger and mobile beetle things that are persistent like leeches, but a central control unit that you can kill to disperse them all at once.

They've got the spider pretty decent at wall climbing, so five or six puppy sized beetles crawling on compound walls and with the ability to do a flying pounce seems horrifying.

[tardy citrus]

That would be cool

Tougher than leeches

But the central unit is weaker than a meathead

[glossy falcon]

Let's remember this is a Lore channel for the Hunt: Showdown universe.

[tardy citrus]

Lore

Lore

Lore

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-conspiracy-tin-foil-hat-gif-20017163

Hear me out on this one

Reynard Mill

Specifically

The trees in reynard

They are very tall

And thick

Thicker than most trees in the bayou

Yet

There’s no railroad to reynard

Then

Where did they come from

And how did they get there?

Meatheads!

They are the only creature that could carry them there

I bet the sculptor needs wood on a massive scale to create some kind of siege artillery or other wooden weapon of war

Or a Trojan horse

[wraith cove]

[torn schooner]

Are you trying to say the trees got there by meatheads?

Or are you talking about the log piles?

[tardy citrus]

The log piles

I mean

Maybe meatheads carried them

Idk tho

Does the river that flows to reynard come from that massive lake at the edge of the map?

Cause if so I don’t think they could float the logs across that

I’m at school rn tho so I can’t check the map

[visual finch]

[tardy citrus]

Monroe mindset

[noble scarab]

Highly doubt the meatheads had anything to do with the log piles

The location's lore from the wiki states that it was a kind of rushed venture that wasn't really planned well. They probably brought logs in via horse/mule logging

The river also does flow through there, and with higher water it'd be possible for the logs to pass through

I think the water level in-game is lower than it should be for the region, you can see beached boats and places where water previously was (ie mud). Idk if our world's 1895 was a drought year, but in Hunt's world it seems to have been

[tardy citrus]

Meatheads also only have one arm…

I just remembered

[torn schooner]

I mean not only that but do me a favor and look at the logs. They uh... clip into each other. they are just a texture. Its safe to assume that they dont look like that in the lore. Its just the way they look for aesthetic reason.

[tardy citrus]

Yeah

I was mostly joking bout all this

.

.

.

Ok but here me out the immolater and the hive are always together I think they’re dating

[torn schooner]

This is for actual lore discussion please stop

[rotund ferry]

Lore wise isn’t there a limit to how long hunters can (relatively) safely stay in the bayou?

[tardy citrus]

I believe so

Some kind of drug the AHA has

[rotund ferry]

That is not super helpful was kind of hoping for specifics

[rotund ferry]

Yes vitality shots.

[tardy citrus]

Is it not implied hunters take it before they go into the bayou?

[rotund ferry]

They do both.

It keeps them alive. They NEED it.

Once you take one you’re on the hook

[tardy citrus]

Ah

Is there a separate substance that stop people from becoming corrupted?

[rotund ferry]

No it’s just the vita shots. The first one makes you a hunter everything after keeps you breathing

[tardy citrus]

Ah

[rotund ferry]

Not enough info to say whether the healing properties are just for gameplay or are canon

[tardy citrus]

I think it’s just a matter of constitution then for staying in the bayou?

Redneck stayed there for a while without any special substance

[tardy citrus]

Maybe it’s mental

[rotund ferry]

Some people are naturally or spiritually resistant. Redneck has natural resistance, witch hunter and bone doc are spiritually resistant

[tardy citrus]

Ohh

[tardy citrus]

Anyone know the story on Monroe, LeMonner, Huff and the Asylum?

[restive patrol]

I believe in the armored entry, its mentioned that the limit for staying in the hunting grounds is 1 hour.

Specifically "The Journal of Harold Black"

[bold tiger]

That's just a handwave for the match timer.

[bold tiger]

Yes seemingly

Some other lore shows a bit more about the hunter ritual (or whatever it's called) than the bit in the romero lore

[tardy citrus]

Ok yeah, I feel like I heard about that on the subreddit

[bold tiger]

They have some contradictory lore, and almost contradictory lore

[tardy citrus]

Oh

What contradicts?

[upbeat kiln]

The lore is a bit bipolar in terms of that and cant quite make up its mind.

The game itself and one source says 1 hour within the dead zone, which has now been changed to 45 minutes, before any living thing dies. However, there are several parts of the lore that tells stories about people both without and under the influence of inoculations that have spent hours and even days in there, without dying to the corruption.

[tardy citrus]

With the 1 hour before any living thing dies, when you load into a match is it assumed it’s an area that have very recently been corrupted?

Or is it only creatures that the sculpture wants to use

Which is why the chickens r still alive?

[upbeat kiln]

No, I don't think that make sense, as many of the locations such as Healing Waters Church, Nichols Prison and the Slaughter House are used within the lore after the outbreak.

According to human crystal ball and hunt lore connoisseur @earnest jungle , the corruption (IIRC) began in the DeSalle.

[tardy citrus]

Ok

[tardy citrus]

That’s interesting

What about the reasoning behind some creatures still being alive in the bayou?

[upbeat kiln]

You mean like birds, chickens, and horses?

[visual finch]

Well, Lore for the most part are not hard facts, but people reporting stories

That's why there are contradictions

[tardy citrus]

Ye

I thought the sculpture just didn’t care about them

[upbeat kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[rotund ferry]

Man I straight up didn’t even notice it was you

[rotund ferry]

Thank you for the answer

[tardy citrus]

Hehe, sorry if I’m hard to understand, I’m just curious about most living things in the bayou dying after some time while a few others don’t

[upbeat kiln]

Not at all ❤️ The thing is.. we don't know haha

(And I don't think it makes sense) lol

[rotund ferry]

Hunt lore is interesting but it’s got a lot of holes and gaps and generally unsatisfying instances

[noble scarab]

Kinda like the mod reply above. In the context of talking about the time limit, it comes from the AHA’s only trusted source of info on the corruption, so is this guy just making shit up then feeding it to the aha? We know that’s not the case. It just feels kinda unsatisfying to basically be told there is no lore, nothing matters, because we’re back to the old lore idea of each Hunt being a story retold by some crackhead 100 years later

Meanwhile Chary right now is still shoehorned in and feels like a Saturday morning cartoon villain

[upbeat kiln]

lol

[tardy citrus]

Is there anywhere to find any mount of lore beyond in-game and on the wiki?

[neat juniper]

Trailers, teasers and official hunt accounts from time to time

[neat juniper]

Trailers, teasers and official hunt accounts from time to time

Sending again because lag, sorry

Like not lag

Internet off

Ye

I am very bad at being an actual person, sorry

[tardy citrus]

Nonono

It’s fine

Thank youuuu

I do watch the hunt YouTube

But haven’t seen a ton in the way of lore

[noble scarab]

our boy Hazmat does awesome videos

[neat juniper]

Hazmat ftw

Let's all send a virtual kiss to hazmat

💋

[coral niche]

Pearl Plantation, there is the poker table with one chair on the ground and blood behind it, Just found out that's where the hunter "The Bad Hand" got shot and where his character's whole story takes place, pretty cooool,

[tardy citrus]

Oh

That’s cool

I always thought I would have happened at the lower DeSalle bar

[coral niche]

Nah, but it is still a really cool detail, especially for one of my favorite hunters (The Zombie version of The Bad Hand)

[tardy citrus]

Yeah

I’ll keep an eye out for that table next time

[coral niche]

I am not aware of many other details like this in the game, built into the maps, but I love when I do find them.

[tardy citrus]

Like Easter eggs?

[coral niche]

It is in the upstairs of the building,

[coral niche]

Yeah, but only for cannon character lore,

[tardy citrus]

Ohh

Yeah I can’t think of any others

[coral niche]

The piano in Lower Desalle plays the same song that is featured in the trailer for The Kid, :)

[tardy citrus]

Oh ya

I have that song on my Spotify

[rare dirge]

yeahhhhhh the kid

[tardy citrus]

W lyrics tho

[coral niche]

(I drew this person's profile picture, 👀 )

[rare dirge]

and i still like it

its like

me

as the kid

[coral niche]

Fr

[tardy citrus]

Whoa

It’s kinda hard to see so small

But it looks really good

[coral niche]

Thank you, :)

[neat juniper]

Btw it's a fun fact i believe
Musics in scrappy lair always ends with crapbeak's screech

[tardy citrus]

Scrapbeak wanted to sing with them while they were recording

[rotund ferry]

im The Kid (literally me n not u)

[rare dirge]

Nuh uh I’m the kid

[small abyss]

Crapbeak sounds like a boss I dont wanna be near.

[jaunty kiln]

Who is kevin and why does mr chary want him dead?

[fossil flame]

Kevin witnessed multiple of Chary's rituals sacrificing people to the Moon (sort of). When Chary tried to sacrifice Kevin the Moon reached out to Kevin, showing him the horrible things Chary has done and gave him basically superpowers. After that Kevin tried to kill Chary but wasn't very successful doing so

[noble scarab]

“Wasn’t”t very successful” our boy kev died like twice and had fuckin moon snakes pulled out of his guts, all while mr Chary is standing over him laughing like skeletor

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-running-away-run-away-running-away-laughing-laughing-gif-21904123

After which Chary then proceeded to peace out of every confrontation like a 6 star Mosin spitzer player when someone approaches 600m of him

[neat juniper]

Would that canonically mean that chary is a mosin spitzer user

Btw unfair comparison, spitzer users run only if their bullets have to travel 1 second plus to the target, which would mean 800m not 600

[tardy citrus]

Chary the rat keeping that positive kda

[lunar sky]

Didn’t the moon make Kevin her champion or something and give him a chain pistol

[tardy citrus]

Antosha, Ye

He wants to use it for good

But ending mr Chary would be pretty good 👍

[lunar sky]

Yeah me chary big cringe fr he gives me nothing but Springfield compacts

[thick sierra]

ok i laughed

[upbeat kiln]

Can we just get @noble scarab to do the script writing from now on? 🤣

[crystal fjord]

Any youtube videos like a beginners guide to the hunt lore?

[neat juniper]

Hazmat channel

Just watch it all

[crystal fjord]

Thanks ❤️

[flat gyro]

I’d recommend geef, he has a good complete beginners guide

[left oak]

i just jumped into the game and played and failed and failed and failed and failed and failed and

[visual finch]

If you have question about the game i'd suggest #hunt-general or #game-questions, this channel is for the Lore 🙂

[regal trout]

Also the moon's favorite weapon is a chain pistol apparently because that's what she gave Kevin

Imagine getting a weapon from the moon and it's not even an uppercut

Smh

[tardy citrus]

Moon is a 2 star and uses it with fanning

[lunar sky]

Agreed

[junior pecan]

Just popped in to say the teaser is either black coat, or someone reusing his assets.

Oh NVM its a twitch drop thing so the latter. Billy Story most likely

[noble scarab]

its billy, mans finally back

im curious about his beetle friend tho

[loud magnet]

Boss tease by the looks of it. That or he has become as deranged as monroe. Probably both

[inland junco]

just a new look for billy

[tardy citrus]

I know the lore of every sculpted creature in the bayou

Except

The immolator

I know the story of the first immolator

But how are others made?

Rage in there final moments?

[tropic lily]

There's a story bout immolators ??

[lavish mist]

my brother in christ read the book of monsters

[bold tiger]

Same way every other Hive Armored or Meathead are, being cloned by the sculptor after the first.

Only 1 meathead came about, 1 Immolator and 1 Hive originally

And the sculptor just cloned the shit out of them to populate the Bayou

[tardy citrus]

Ye

But hives are women who went into the bayou without the serum or natural resistance?

Idk

But that’s what I thought

Do they each come about in the same way they were originally made?

Or the sculptor can now just pop them into existence?

[bold tiger]

Nope, they all have the same face

[bold tiger]

Yup

Or close to that

I think armoreds might be a bit different? Because in some places they are refered to as armored grunts

Heard somewhere that the AI comes from the eggs I think? But that's probably just speculation

[tardy citrus]

Like cocoons r something

[tardy citrus]

They’re cloned with clothes and different skin tones?

[bold tiger]

Yeah, that might just be crytek originally intending more models

Cause the lore is all made after the fact basically

[upbeat kiln]

This is actually one of the places where I'm also very uncertain about the lore. Because while all the monsters looking alike might be because of cloning from the original "patient zero", or (4th wall breaking as it might be) technical limitations at Crytek, we do have the lore confirming that one of the main reasons the AHA switched to the new serum, created by Lynch, was to avoid the horrible fate for women of potentially giving birth to meatheads as well as becoming hives.

We also know through the lore, that more than one woman can become a Hive, as the daughter of the original Hive was impregnated by the very same type of beehive that killed the mother.

However, this doesn't prevent clones from being the primary method of creation of course. Which would also make more sense considering the overall massive quantity of monsters that continously roam the bayous.

[bold tiger]

Where did it say that the previous serum did not protect against hives. None of the characters there had taken it. The new serum sterilizes hunters is all. The previous one functioned as the only issue was the wife not being sterile

[upbeat kiln]

Maybe I'm remembering it wrong. I haven't read that part of the lore in a long time. That was how I remembered it. I might have to go back and reread it :))

[bold tiger]

Last time I went back in the lore, at least on the discord they mention her having something extracted twice but she gives a different description both times, even though they are describing the same event

Unless the lore is just poorly written there

[upbeat kiln]

Twice? Are we still talking about the hive lore?

[bold tiger]

Yeah

Someone else was thinking they pulled "a larva" and "a chewed up piece of wood" from her, or at least those are the descriptions.

If you check the pins here you'll find the lore

[upbeat kiln]

Yeye. That's the only time I remember them extracting anything from Ada.

[bold tiger]

It's described in 2 different pieces of lore with vaguely contradictory dates and statements

Not even by seperate people either I think.

[tribal shadow]

I miss #lore-discussion-serious

[narrow vigil]

I like to think that the hives having the same face is just because they didnt bother/dont want to/havent had the time to model more of them

[narrow vigil]

Not sure if all of the lore sections are done that way, but a lot of them read like someone studying the whole thing in the future; they arent sure if some of the people named even did exist

So probably a lot conflicting notes and falsified documents and such could make it all unsure. Maybe they pieced the dates and names from comparing handwriting, names, etc and the notes we read are approximations made by the researchers based on half torn, frayed or otherwise unreadable originals

Which makes it all more intriguing to me

[tardy citrus]

I know Huff experimented on asylum inmates but is that the same thing as the massacre only Monroe escaped from?

And when it says Dr LeMonnier couldn’t stop the pinprick that turned him into another experiment

Was that Huff testing a early version of the serum?

[bold tiger]

The notes we read are seemingly originals, or at the very least the top lines of just about every entry show what the stuff was written on

[neat juniper]

I am about really certain that he was infected by william salter when willy was escaping
Willy is the owner of salter's pork and has few bits of his lore scatter around
Somewhat tragic story

[tardy citrus]

Oh

The medley description implies Huff had something to do with it

But idk

Where can I learn about william?

[sinful trout]

The lore-hardcore-discussion?

[sinful trout]

Not exactly armored grunts, their physical limbs are distinctly different (see their tendrilly arms with long boi fingers)
In terms of their actual armor, its chitin thats made from hundreds of thousands of tiny insectoid beetles, scognamillio, harold black and two others were experimenting with the body of one, left it overnight only to return to the armor being mostly gone and the entire lab overrun with beetles.

They burned it to the ground

[bold tiger]

There are some places in the game where they are refered to as armored grunts I mean, who knows if they are actually armored grunts or if they are grunts in the same way an infantry soldier is one

[sinful trout]

Oh 100%, not debating the name. Just noting the physical differences between the two. I.e the hand

[sinful trout]

Funny enough but this is also further elaborated on, crytek did a pr stunt with a twitter account called modern day researcher, where it posed as a guy looking into the past events of the louvent and then slowly losing his sanity.

[sinful trout]

I definitely think the once were grunts. But after a significant change, the sculptor decided to copy it as it was

[sinful trout]

If you want to see the old twitter posts, you have to go to hunt showdowns twitter and search #thisdayin1895
It might not sort them in order, so look at them by date

[narrow vigil]

Alrite thanks 👍❤️

[neat juniper]

There are no real coherent notes that talk about willy, his story is scattered in different masteries and doesn't even have a name unlike "as bad as they seem" which makes it harder to find

[thin spade]

What is Monroes lore?

[neat juniper]

He was somewhat of self initiated hunter with debatably real bad head moments
He was put in asylum
Asylum in 1880's moment
He decided fuck that and escaped
A self-delete attempt
He now hunts with friends and everyone is happy

But that's a tldr

[thin spade]

Is there a place I can read the not tldr?

I'm on phone rn

[neat juniper]

I don't seem to find any one articled

Henry Monroe was admitted to the mental institution involuntarily and has been trying to escape since day one. After the first failed attempt, inmate Monroe drew the attention of Warden Huff. But before he could catch him again, Henry put a shard in his pocket, which would later be his trademark.

Ultimately, Monroe escaped the asylum by snatching Warden Huff’s gun in a moment of confusion. At that time it was already known as “Lock & Keys”. Since then, Henry Monroe has made his way through the bayou as a hunter and fights for survival every day.

That's the most you'll get from me, let's wait for the experts

[thin spade]

Ic ty for your help in me trying to figure out the lore of my crackhead smiley face man

[noble scarab]

its all in on his steam page

but you've got the gist of it. mans was committed for unknown reasons, then was experimented on by Huff, including a vivisection, based on his scarring. There was an escape attempt that he was part of, thats where he got his knife, then later when the asylum fell he escaped fully, taking a guard's romero. He did attempt to end his life, but when the gun didnt work, he decided he would become a Hunter and survive

[tribal shadow]

What is the lore behind trading?

[neat juniper]

Bleeding, leftover brain impulses of a dead person to arms, agonising muscle spasms in said arms, bullets that are actual things and won't go nowhere if your bullet was slightly faster than your opponent's

It's called realism

It's just that hunters are enhanced humans with serum so trading window is much bigger and unow
The fact that dead hunters can rage on someone who killed them and be basically revived even after a huge dynamite bundle explodes under their literal feet helps with detecting trading

[noble scarab]

Hunters are literally supernatural beings, with the most powerful being faster than bullets, and with even the meekest whiteshirt being able to tank point blank nitro rounds, die, get back up, then run 1000m to the extract

[neat juniper]

Ye, that's exactly my point
Trading happens a lot in actual irl wars it's just that it is much harder to spot it because unow
The participants are dead

[sinful trout]

If you mean william salter. We made a document of his journal a long time ago
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ySvcqWQrxiA2DTh2HkNSsH8H7NZcISOV6pS0lBfblxM/edit?usp=drivesdk

As a note; the cabin he mentions is likely Elwood finches cabin, where he trained/housed hunters, and trevors is the legendary hunter: Carcass Gunrunner

[neat juniper]

the expert arrived, hurray

[sinful trout]

Realised that journal isnt pinned though its pretty relevant, @tall lava, help an old friend out?

Please :)))

[sinful trout]

Thanks Nixa! Love the new event themed name lol

[tardy citrus]

This is very nicely put together

Thank youuuu

[rotund ferry]

hey hunters

https://tenor.com/view/hey-hunters-gif-25617600

shit wrong channel sorry (doesnt delete message)

[tardy citrus]

Hey

[placid jacinth]

Guys do you think Scrapbeak is still aware of what he is doing or is he dead and possessed ?

[noble scarab]

I think he’s probably somewhat aware, especially given how the assassin behaves

[narrow vigil]

Possibly aware, some lore tidbits have people keeping journal after getting infected and they slowly succumb

[tardy citrus]

I mean

It’s been over 30 years

Idk

I have some feeling scrapbeak regrets what he’s doing

But no proof

[limpid bobcat]

Any idea as to what this bug might do?

[placid jacinth]

But why he attacks every hunter instead of trying to communicate somehow

[upbeat kiln]

I saw a couple of people on reddit speculating that this might be similar to a drone from R6 Siege. It could be the potential anti-camping mechanic that the devs had been talking about. Something that would like you recon an area before moving into it. This is, of course, purely speculation.

I gotta say that from a lore perspective, I would absolutely love that idea of tapping into creatures through the use of dark sight. That opens up a lot of interesting avenues in the use of dark magic :))

[limpid bobcat]

I also saw that post, but I think that it being a drone just feels off. I don't know what exactly I don't like about it, I may need to think about it

[neat juniper]

afaik it is an anticamping but i highly doubt it'll be a drone

[limpid bobcat]

It might basically just be a deus ex machina to any in-compound engagement

Don't know where someone is? Instead of throwing a decoy, just drone the area. Enemies may not care about the decoy, but scanning is foolproof

Too much utility I think

[upbeat kiln]

It will be exciting to see the end result. Personally, anything that expands on the use of magic or dark sight would be aces in my book :))

[limpid bobcat]

And what would it be? An item found on map? A trait? custom ammo for the crossbow?

[neat juniper]

More magic to the god of magic, amirite

[limpid bobcat]

I've never seen an anti-camp mechanic in a game that was implemented correctly. I'm sceptical when it comes to this idea

[visual finch]

I actually suggested some times ago more magic\voodoo stuff, i think that could be a cool addition. The idea start popping in after they added Serpent and Necromancer, that are basically pure magic.

[graceful jetty]

Just carry a giant bug in your fourth tool slot for scanning a compound

I love it

[upbeat kiln]

Though I agree, vision and knowledge of the enemy's position would pretty much remove the advantage of camping.

[upbeat kiln]

And with the game's rich lore to draw from, there are so many cool traits that could be developed!

[limpid bobcat]

but also would make stealth in general obsolete, depending on how they implement it

I don't see a way how they could implement such a mechanic, without unintentional drawbacks

this game is slow paced and tactical in nature

and that "scan" promotes quick plays

you're found by a scan
either
-you rush quickly to the enemy that scanned you
-you run away
-the enemy goes to you asap, because you wouldn't move that far away from the scanned position in such a short period of time

it can also confirm if there are enemies in general. Not sure if the compound/clue has a shotgun lad waiting to blast your back with lead? pop this bad boy and see for yourself. You could technically do that with decoys, but as I've said, the effect wouldn't be guaranteed, unlike how it would be with the drone

and since it's such a huge advantage, it would be as important to bring as a vitality shot/medkit. You wouldn't see a match without it, and hunt would become a drone fest even bigger than r6s

[limpid bobcat]

in siege it alteast works because the map is small, there is a crapton counters to drones, and attacking, or finding the bomb site would be a pain in the ass

despite all of that, I'm still curious as to what the new mechanic might be

but hopefully not droning

they should add it to test server first, and see if people are fine with that anti camping mechanic

[restive patrol]

https://twitter.com/HuntShowdown/status/1572994387617148929?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet lmao, it is a drone, I personally would have rather had something to deal with sniper players

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[neat juniper]

Not the drone

Oh god

[simple carbon]

I do not like this bug drone at all

[echo wharf]

It'll help campers, in the teaser it even helps the camper against the one pushing.
I see no offensive benefit to this. You either in a long range fight, you already know ish where they are. Same for compounds, if someone is bushcamøing you already wouldn't know.

I assume it'll have maybe 30m range or a timer you can use it, and it'll be a trait, it will also probably make a lot of noise so enemy knows when you use it.
I really dislike the idea of this, but we don't know how it'll work

It'll either be one to pick all the time, or it'll be another magpie

[visual finch]

Please use this channel for lore discussion, not for theory about upcoming mechanics

[neat mica]

might be interesting if it's not so much a tool/consumable as it is a "world item"

as in maybe they are an enemy that you can optionally possess with darksight instead of kill

or harvest them in the wild ala the halflife snark

that way it isn't a given that everyone is gonna be just waltzing into missions with them

[loud magnet]

Could be like looking at stuff through dark sight. You see like 10-15 meters ahead at you and it’s monochrome coloured only (or black and white)

[limpid bobcat]

[red meadow]

Has anyone talked about the Penitent's Steam page lore tab ?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2100450/Hunt_Showdown__The_Penitent/

Because youch.

I feel like it's odd that you don't have access to as much lore in game as there is on there.

[tardy citrus]

Dear lord

So he became addicted to pain after killing his family?

Or he killed them as part of it?

[red meadow]

I honestly have no clue if he killed everyone and felt so remorseful that pain was the only way for him to forget, or that he wasn't able to protect his family and feels haunted by it.

Also have we ever heard of the St. Francis Seraph Church before, or is that a new location ?

[noble scarab]

New location

And I believe his trailer shows him killing his family

[tardy citrus]

I thought in the trailer he was under blanchett

But if it could just be that they don’t yet have the location made

Or just look similar

[red meadow]

Oh I didn't see his trailer yet-

Okay I saw it. Yup, seems like he killed them.

As for the reason behind it, no clue. But again, it's Hunt.

[red meadow]

Makes sense.

[earnest jungle]

The pain addiction was probably a result of him using pain first to try and absolve himself of responsibility for what he’d done and then to forget it.

[icy brook]

https://twitter.com/huntshowdown/status/1572994387617148929?s=46&t=bC-uXviQxfoLAEcgxA-s1w

Hunt: Showdown | Serpent Moon Live Event (@HuntShowdown)

As current findings are relatively new, and scientists have yet to conclude their research, we can only assume that further information will be revealed in the near future regarding this species, and their origins.

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Some of you may find the darksight clip in this tweet a bit intriguing

I’m assuming the teased bugs can act as an out of body drone of some sort

[tropic lily]

Is there any informations about the new Hunter " The Penitent" more detailed that the small text in the buying page on Steam 🧐

[tardy citrus]

Don’t think he’s mentioned anywhere else

So far

[loud magnet]

I’d check characters like monroe or sheriff Hardin etc and see if they’ve had updates regarding him. Ik Hardin is responsible for most of the lunatics being let out of asylums to beat up zombies

[rotund ferry]

What actually happened in hunt showdown general ? Especially in Louissana (dont know how to type it sorry), I heard there was some plague or something, but how it happened, how, for example, was assasin or butcher or scrapbreak created.. or even water demon

[tardy citrus]

Basically bad people helping and releasing bad demonic entities

That then do bad things

Main one is the sculptor

Who created the plague that morphs people and animals into monsters

This plague is in the Louisiana bayou

And an organization called the American Hunters Organization

Now sends people to fight the monsters

Check out his hunt lore videos to know a ton of stuff

[tropic lily]

Well maybe we'll get more informations in the futur. I hope

[upbeat kiln]

Lmao completely forgot about my channel Description 🤣

[tropic lily]

@upbeat kiln I really like your videos, please don't stop 👍 .

[loud magnet]

I’d doubt it. He isn’t part of the main protagonists. He is just a pawn or like the black coat a lunatic for hire that will eventually die in the lore. Unless they plan to have a crazed psycho amongst them. But idk to be honest, all I guess he is another freak having fun killing shit and people

Ik the viper skin is important and revolves around the new teased boss. Along side the characters that got trapped inside of king snake mine. The Kid is also important because moon decided to be in retrograde at the right time and save his ass

[torn schooner]

So what is the lore behind the detectives in all black. Are they siblings? Married? Just partners?

[neat juniper]

They are pinkertones
They are partners
They were like "hmm, we gotta get more money out of people bribing us, let's go to bayou to see what bad things we can profit off there"
There were bad things they couldn't profit off there
I assume the man dies, woman was apprentice
Woman survives but swears revenge on the bayou

That's about it

Experts could tell you more

[loud magnet]

That’s it basically. Think they were slightly romantically involved or like father like figure. Atleast that’s how it’s seemed to me. But was as while since I read their bios etc (do they even have anything besides their bios?)

Part about them being romantically involved is pure speculations. Atleast she liked him enough to take revenge

[tardy citrus]

This is about the detectives like private eye and hacksaw?

[neat juniper]

Yes

[tardy citrus]

Hacksaw dies?

[neat juniper]

He is legally dead

Just like black coat

They are skins you can play as, but they ded

[tardy citrus]

Presumed dead or lore dead?

[neat juniper]

Well, lore said he ded
But lore is from pov of private eye that told us that

[tardy citrus]

Ah

Do we know how?

He died?

[neat juniper]

"taken by bayou"

[tardy citrus]

Oh

[neat juniper]

He might not even be dead dead, just turned into a grunt or smthn like that

[tardy citrus]

Damn

Is this from a steam description r somethin?

[neat juniper]

Bio of private eye

[tardy citrus]

Oh

[neat juniper]

as long as it's lore

[tardy citrus]

Uh

Or should I ask that in game questions?

[neat juniper]

game question would be more applicable

and i don't know the answer anyway

[tardy citrus]

Okie

[rotund ferry]

Are the bugs from assasin possesed that they form in 'Assasin'?

I am really interested in the monsters and these things

[tropic lily]

Check this channel

[tropic lily]

https://youtu.be/edT5B9LlUjM

[rotund ferry]

Ok thx

[tropic lily]

Np

[vivid dagger]

I never learned the lore behind the Phantom legendary, anyone care to enlighten?

[devout cedar]

This is the story behind Phantom in cinematic, story telling style. https://youtu.be/pd0LJD6R6eA?t=34

Here is version without cinematics - https://youtu.be/qNYK251GMdo

[vivid dagger]

Much appreciated!!!

[neat juniper]

Of course rachta would be the one to answer about phantom

[brave steeple]

jojo whats this

just found this on the map

[plucky barn]

What are some other instances of creatures or people being controlled by a hunter. To more fit the beetle into the lore

[plucky barn]

In the cage on the south side of kingsnake?

[brave steeple]

yes

[icy brook]

I never thought Crytek could write in a R6 style drone mechanic into the lore, but here we are

[noble scarab]

I guess we’re just doing a form of possession on the beetle?

[icy brook]

Basically using dark sight to warg into the beetle I suppose

[upbeat kiln]

I love it :))

Lore-wise

I don't know about the gameplay

but lore-wise it opens up so many cool avenues! I think it's awesome

[rotund ferry]

Give me the three eyed crow raven skin please.

[narrow vigil]

Id wager a guess the sculptor cant influence birds, with them just chilling around no care in the world. The beetle probably has a connection/link to sculptor which lets us control it with our demon infusion thingy

[rotund ferry]

I think hunters are closer to demons than angels in this game.

[vague badger]

Well, the Hunters do inject demon blood to gain access to all those voodoo powers

[humble ridge]

Romero 77 Alamo mastery page

[bold tiger]

Im sorru what the fuck?

[humble ridge]

Sparks Pistol mastery page

Lore pages

[bold tiger]

Nice work by the way!

[humble ridge]

ty

[bold tiger]

The new lore is...

Let me find the image I was thinking of

What the A.H.A. thinks peak performance looks like

No wonder that they stop existing some time after the game.

They just go "Hehe a guy with a knife for a hand, He'll never be... DISARMED" and shoot anyone who doesn't laugh

[neat juniper]

but like
he wouldn't
just rip the knifand off

smh

[bold tiger]

Or just have a knife on a holster

that way he could use the dreaded dual wielding

[neat juniper]

holster is ripped off even easier

just implant the knife in a brain

can't disarm without death

profit

[bold tiger]

Just make him into a knife

and give him to another hunter

[neat juniper]

tru

embed fail

[bold tiger]

Curse you discord

[neat juniper]

🔪 new hunter leak

just a knife

straigh up

🔪

[bold tiger]

A hunter in the form of a large knife, made out of other knives

[tame jolt]

okay but like

with the tech back then, its a downgrade to lose the arm for a mechanical apparatus

its better to just... attach something onto it, you know

[bold tiger]

But the A.H.A. seems be made up of people who smear shit on themselves rather than put clothes on in the morning.

[neat juniper]

that's more efficient and cheap

[bold tiger]

I guess, but the thing is you could just ya know, not dismember your own people

[tame jolt]

its gotta be grimy, show that all organizations are flawed! everyone is trash and stupid!

[tame jolt]

i mean, test subjects are test subjects

im just sayin', dont experiment on them with stupid things

experiment with smart things

[bold tiger]

This is like how everything in GTA is a joke, it just get's fucking grating

[tame jolt]

has to be done with enough control that it doesnt devolve into that

[bold tiger]

I would be fine with the AHA making things worse even and prolonging the event

[tame jolt]

i havent explored the lore so im assuming thats not a strong showcase of their competency tho

[bold tiger]

I think next berthier we gonna have lore about them feeding hellhound meat to babies in west virginia as a sleep aid. Then the guys who do that die in the bayou and scrawl bloody notes on walls after trying to find out of they could use grunts as ***********

something horrible and stupid, fill in the *** yourself as I put that there on purpose

[bold tiger]

Every time they show up they have a critical brainpower deficiency

[tame jolt]

well that stinks

[neat juniper]

Lore writers on their way to create most messed up thing for next monster lore

[tame jolt]

hive juices

meathead leech farming for substitution of meat products

juicy with protein

[neat juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/wide-putin-walking-looking-gif-17745710

Embed fail

[bold tiger]

I can hope thats what it actually is

I guess tenor might be having problems?

[tame jolt]

its fine for it to be messed up and fun, its not so fun if you look at their actions and think

"oh come on"

every time

gifs dont work in this channel

[bold tiger]

This one does though?

[neat juniper]

Nope apparently

[bold tiger]

Removed it myself

[neat juniper]

Neat

[tame jolt]

there we go, it only broke temporarily

[bold tiger]

I think its just certain ones

[tame jolt]

or maybe astu cant post because of some fucky shit with his discord roles

game feed and his RU whatever

[bold tiger]

I am unable to post some

[neat juniper]

It's more likely because of the words in some

[bold tiger]

But on lore, it's just stupid when the AHA is supposed to be a big bad but they just fail constantly

[neat juniper]

Aha moment

[bold tiger]

Maybe the AHA is responsible for FMJ, and Slugs

[neat juniper]

Aha is the reason we have campers

[earnest jungle]

They’ve been really upping the Ante with the body horror of late

[bold tiger]

They give hunters lobotomys and implant a rage generator where they frontal lobe used to be.

[tame jolt]

im guessing their lore was just constantly shifting between writers from start to now?

AHA is the source of all our problems

[neat juniper]

AHA stands behind alamo

AHA is the only reason we have that godforbidden thing

[tame jolt]

its a cool gimmick, i g

[bold tiger]

A.H.A. is why hunters can't take the same amount of bullets with the Officer as they can with the normal nagant

[earnest jungle]

Hunt Lore is fairly episodic in nature.

[neat juniper]

i am now just waiting for like hunter who is theoretic and like " AHA IS THE ROOT OF EVIL"

[earnest jungle]

The general gist of the issue is that the AHA is run by a guy named Philip Huff Jones who really doesn’t care about petty things like Ethics and basic human decency.

[bold tiger]

I think the storylines might be written by seperate people, like devs have their own specific stories

[bold tiger]

Or anything, actually he might specifically care about being incompetent and evil

[earnest jungle]

Huff has always been more interested in using the Event to further his occult experimentation and research.

Pelican Prison is essentially an AHA black-site where experiments too unsavory or unethical to be conducted by the East Louisiana State Hospital which is really saying something.

[bold tiger]

Replacing hands with blades gives the blade one less point of leverage

[earnest jungle]

They were specifically investigating weaponized prosthetics I doubt simply slapping a knife on a person’s arm is all they were thinking of

[bold tiger]

I could practically guarantee it's all they were thinking of they're very dumb

Besides doesn't the Phantom have fully operational prosthetics

[tame jolt]

its very simple, attach a blade and a metal rod to where the hand used to be

three points of leverage

you hit like a mother fucker

hell, attach a baseball bat or something

[bold tiger]

Attach that to another rod

[tame jolt]

nah, gets too clunky and heavy

just 3 points is the most rational amount

unless you add voodoo shit to make them stronger

or say, stitch more muscles onto their arm to connect to the body

in a fucked up way

[bold tiger]

Although I'm pretty sure there is some historic use of arm blade replacement, some Aztec guy I think

[tame jolt]

oh hell yea, i wonder if you can attach the arm with wires to the body or some shit

[bold tiger]

Also people don't die of infection in this universe

[tame jolt]

bit of give so it stays well attached and adds more support

fun body horror stuff

(and new ai scare gimmicks, hehehe)

[bold tiger]

Bold of you to assume new AI is coming, and of me to assume it's not as well of course

[tame jolt]

nah, it probably wont, problem is they want something unique that adjusts gameplay in some way

so its not worth the investment just to add a new cool ai that dont do nuthin

[bold tiger]

A new status effect could add a lot

A stun on AI it doesn't kill, maybe electricity

And on players it builds up until it locks them in place for a second. But only have it able to do that when something else could kill

Like a shock bomb and bolts

Have lore about the guy who loved the bayou so much he set up a generator everywhere

then he got hit by lightning or some shit. Boom electric thing

[tame jolt]

poor guy

[bold tiger]

He'd have to be after giving the bayou 100% electrification.

[tame jolt]

if not for him, how else could i deny the defending team audio

[bold tiger]

Or get shot trying to start the generator

[tame jolt]

theyre too cowardly to peek me while i grind that wheel for their eyes to see

[noble scarab]

its astounding how incompetent the AHA is

we've made jokes before, but damn

[icy brook]

Maybe then Hunt live action show will be a The Office style comedy showing how inept the AHA is

Also I hope we get lore into how the hell the stalker beetles work

[ripe inlet]

i did not check sparks pistol and romero alomo's lore but from your reactions i guess it some shitty thing 😄

i bet someone share an ss, i will read it now

i think this new lore means we will get new ai maybe.

[bold tiger]

Maybe but as someone else said it seems kinda redundant

[lavish mist]

next boss

reverse merman

man legs with fish torso that slaps you with his fins

[thorn owl]

I still like the idea of a half man, half catfish. 😆

[bold tiger]

Not even half man

entirely catfish

just flops around the arena damaging you.

[icy brook]

The devs saying to hell with it and add Lovecraft’s Deep Ones

[bold tiger]

Dead throats rattle with hollow pleasure.
Sightless eyes uplifted in confused worship.
Arise pestilence and claim the world in the name of the Elder Gods.

Many faces bear the plague. From deepest pit to highest mount BEWARE UNBELIEVER
For the Hunt is upon us.

[thorn owl]

All I'm saying is, a giant catfish that swallows hunters whole would very much be a Louisiana way to die.

[tardy citrus]

You came up with this or it’s some lore?

[bold tiger]

No and no

but it fits hunt

[tame jolt]

metro exodus?

[bold tiger]

I think so

[tame jolt]

good times, forgettable game tho

[bold tiger]

Entirely BC it was on epic games first (not actually)

[tame jolt]

i g, i didnt have hype for it either way

[tardy citrus]

That it does

[rotund ferry]

I like the idea. The catfish can spawn on reworked compounds near water. Have it completely submersed.

Clearly a lot of events happened in 1895 but does the story continue past that? Meaning are the maps happening concurrently or is there a passage of time?

[visual finch]

Time is a bit fucked up in the Bayou

[devout cedar]

Stalker Beetle

[noble scarab]

Thanks Rachta

[tardy citrus]

It’s reasonable to assume it’s harder for hunters to control more advanced lifeforms the way they control the beetle?

[neat juniper]

and also beetle specifically evolved to be symbiotic

[noble scarab]

its probably not something of earthly origin, unless maybe a normal beetle fell into a clue or was corrupted by the plague

if it had a link to the other-side that explains why Hunters can control them

[narrow vigil]

Sculptor has been pretty fond of insects so far, probably something with his influence doin it or the beetles somehow tapped into it?

[noble scarab]

my bets on its gotta be related

[tardy citrus]

The beetles probably have to do with the sculptor?

I gotta read the journal entry thing

[regal trout]

Sculptor's whole thing is they're just using hunters to basically test stuff

Adding stuff the hunters can use as opposed to trying to kill them can also be used to see how humans react

[tardy citrus]

So it produced the beetle for them?

[lunar sky]

Guys remember when that one time where carcass smuggled guns in body’s or something

[noble scarab]

thats the dudes thing, he smuggles exotic guns inside dead animals

you can even see in in the Dark Sight trailer