#palera1n | r/Jailbreak | Page 118

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:43 AM

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unless they completely change the path

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@rapid spade if u dont mind getting me the file found with that command (or u can find it in filza following directions from the pinned message) so i can investigate further

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:45 AM

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This command?

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:45 AM

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should put the last argument in quotes to avoid shell globbing

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:45 AM

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true

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:45 AM

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rapid spade This command?

yes

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:46 AM

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plutil $(/usr/bin/find /private/var/containers/Shared/SystemGroup -type f -iname "*MobileBluetooth.devices.plist") > devices.plist

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that miiiight work

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oh hey first try

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:48 AM

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nice

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:48 AM

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ya so that command works.

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it makes a plist file wherever you are, just upload that

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:48 AM

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btw as suggested by @silent anchor should add quotes to the *MobileBluetooth part to avoid shell globbing

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:49 AM

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plutil $(/usr/bin/find /private/var/containers/Shared/SystemGroup -type f -iname *MobileBluetooth.devices.plist) > devices.plist

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:49 AM

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edited, confirmed still working

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:49 AM

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In the search bar for root?

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:49 AM

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uuhhh

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search bar?

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where are you

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i said IF you have access to a terminal

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:50 AM

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Filza

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:50 AM

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wont work in filza lol if you dont know what im talking about, dont worry about it. just grab the file manually

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mines just a way to automate it

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:51 AM

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@silent anchor @rapid spade can still find the file using your instructions via filza

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that'd be the easier and more approachable solution for most people i think

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:51 AM

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ya the pinned ones

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:51 AM

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Ill search filza for MobileBluetooth.devices.plist

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:51 AM

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that should find it as well

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:52 AM

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i forget people dont use terminal much lol

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i love bash

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but my server is exclusively cli (and filezilla for ftp but even thats sftp) so i guess thats just what im used to

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:53 AM

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yeh i generally do everything in the command line as well

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:53 AM

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"ill try to dumb it down to one command on the terminal" "whats the terminal?" "oh ya"

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:54 AM

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i jump back and forth between terminal and iTerm. iTerm is pretty nice

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:55 AM

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Did I do it right?

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:55 AM

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yeeee

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:55 AM

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yep

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:55 AM

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Awesome

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:56 AM

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whats the repo for plutil

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i wonder if its even able to be installed in wsl...

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:01 AM

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@rapid spade you said u ran the "fix pairing issues" right? cuz this plist doesnt look like that happened

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:02 AM

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I’ll try it again. Walk me through exactly what I should do for that

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:02 AM

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in the info / pairing screen

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when u hit the action button it should have a choice "Fix Pairing Issues"

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:04 AM

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Just hit it when trying to turn the controller on?

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:04 AM

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no do that now and THEN try connecting again

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it doesnt need the controller to be on or active to make the change its making.

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but after making the change it should pair and stay connected

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Try that

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:14 AM

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feel free to delete those messages after i grab the file since thats a list of your bluetooth devices

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yeap its failing to make the change for some reason. thats super fun @rapid spade what jailbreak are you using out of curiousity?

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:17 AM

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Unc0ver

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Looks like they support 14.3 now. I might be able to upgrade

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Uncover 5.3.1

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:20 AM

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@rapid spade what os are you on currently? i should've asked that too

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:20 AM

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13.5

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Says it in the picture too

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:21 AM

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wondering if theres some weird sandbox thing going on

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but for the time being

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:21 AM

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Should I try a different jailbreak?

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:22 AM

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i also am on uncover nito

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so

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not even the newest version

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:22 AM

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@rapid spade check DM

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@rapid spade nah i was just curious

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trying to look at every variable

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but the nControl app is failing to update that file for some odd reason

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and maybe they missed a patch in an older unc0ver i dont know. sandboxing stuff is tricky

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:24 AM

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actually maybe im wrong

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cuz i did download the updated version of the app, but i dont think i ever ran it, but maybe i did.

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depends on if i updated the app since or before this morning when i woke up

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cuz i woke up and my phone rebooted so had to rejailbreak

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:26 AM

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@silent anchor haha i know the feeling of where your head is at right now

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:26 AM

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lmao i highly doubt that

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unless youre way freakier than i thought you were

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in other news, distillate is kicking in XD

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:28 AM

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lulz

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i mean i did take 10 hits of acid that one time

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although i guess it depends on what freaky context u are talking about

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lol

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guess i gotta get some error checking in there for this stop gap fix so i can at least tell the user it was successful or not. ugh would hate to have to add a setuid tool or XPC service just for this. its weird tho cuz the file is owned by mobile

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however, the nControl app is owned by a strange user number (502) and if things are more stringent that could potentially make a difference

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:32 AM

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Now that I’ve made that change. What do I do next

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:33 AM

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pfft i might be on my way there, but im not gone enough yet to spill my secrets XD

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:34 AM

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@rapid spade killall -9 bluetoothd and then try pairing / connecting again

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:34 AM

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nito we already established they dont got terminal

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:34 AM

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oh right that

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lol

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Yee

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:34 AM

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uhmmmmmmmm

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oh right

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restart bluetooth services in nControl

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lol

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dumb

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(me)

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@rapid spade

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and then try connecting again

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:37 AM

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Nada

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:37 AM

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grab that file again

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post it again

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:37 AM

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@silent anchor i actually sent them a custom file where i made the change myslef

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myself*

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to put in place

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:38 AM

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ah

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:38 AM

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and it didnt work

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oh wait try restarting the services twice

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:38 AM

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you sent them the bin version right?
not the xml1 version?

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:38 AM

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@silent anchor

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yeh

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@rapid spade i forgot we restart bluetoothd twice for some reason to get the change to propagate so try one more time

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restarting one more time and connecting one more time

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:39 AM

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Ok

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:39 AM

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@silent anchor what iOS version are you on again?

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:39 AM

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process goes: pair through ncontrol. wait for it to disconnect, then wait another idk 5 seconds. then go into the device in ncontrol, tap the fix pairing button. wait like 5 seconds. turn on controller, connect through ncontrol

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14.2

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i dont think thats needed btw nito

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just that we didnt kill ncontrol when doing it

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:40 AM

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13.5

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:40 AM

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if i cant find my old phone i think its running 13

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ugh actually no its downstairs and thatrequires pants

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:40 AM

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yeh im not sure when this fix started working and if the os version has anything to do w/ it. grasping at straws right now

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:41 AM

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No luck

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:41 AM

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although 5 months ago is when u originally posted this, u could've even been on 13 still

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:41 AM

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well i was on 13 back when i originally posted the thing

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:41 AM

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yeh

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okay

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:41 AM

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cuz remember

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i JUST updated to 14

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:41 AM

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okay im completely dumbfounded

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:41 AM

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like 3 days ago

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:41 AM

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yeh

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:41 AM

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ok well

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:41 AM

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ughhhhhhh

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:41 AM

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hes gonna have to get newterm or somethign lol

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:41 AM

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📎 com.apple.MobileBluetooth.devices.plist

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:41 AM

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we gotta be able to see whats going on

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:42 AM

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what the fudge

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it changed teh device class back

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:42 AM

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knw it

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:42 AM

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how? why? ugh

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:42 AM

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you sent him the xml1 version didnt you

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:42 AM

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no

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i made the change in xcode i never converted it at all

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yeh the one i sent is definitely in binary

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...

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:43 AM

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let me convert it with

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did you figure it out

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that looks like an "im/this/your an idiot" kind of .....

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:44 AM

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Should I try to update to iOS 14.3?

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:45 AM

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i wouldnt lol

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just hold on

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what controller again?

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the fact he hasnt responded makes me think he found the issue

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whos fault was it nito

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:46 AM

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@rapid spade eh maybe maybe not i dont know yet. im going to send u one more build in a second

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i mean most things are my fault in my experience lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:46 AM

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saaaame

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its always the programmers fault

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:48 AM

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or apples fault

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lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:49 AM

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ya but

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:49 AM

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@rapid spade check DM's

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:49 AM

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they would be the programmers in that case

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:49 AM

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im wondering if nControliOS has mobile:mobile if itll make any difference

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:49 AM

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doubt it

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:49 AM

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for one last try (for now) try the "fix pairing issues" option @rapid spade

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:49 AM

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its not the permissions running ncontrol, its the permissions ncontrol has

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:49 AM

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@silent anchor its failing to edit the file and nControliOS is owned by 502:staff

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which isnt even a thing

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:50 AM

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thats the permissions for running it though

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not the permissions it has

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:50 AM

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checkra1n probably doesnt give a flying fuck

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other jailbreaks might. im just trying everything at this point.

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i doubt itll make any difference, but i dont know that it wont

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:50 AM

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worst case scenario, update and use uncover lol

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um

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:51 AM

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well they are using a unc0ver but just an old one on 13.5 so yeh maybe that has something to do w/ it

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:51 AM

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im preeeetty sure i used uncover when i was on 135

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:51 AM

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but u werent running the fix through nitoTV

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i mean

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nControl

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lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:51 AM

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true ya

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how are you getting root

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wait no

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:51 AM

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and thats where its failing

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:51 AM

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i tried running the command as mob

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omg wait

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:51 AM

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the file is owned by mobile:mobile

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:51 AM

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waitwait

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:51 AM

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BUT it is in a sandboxed location

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:52 AM

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no i get it

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remember how i backed up the file?

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:52 AM

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yeh?

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:52 AM

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i just renamed it

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so the file didnt exist

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which means it had to be regenerated

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by the next thing to use it

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aka ncontrol

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:52 AM

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and?

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:52 AM

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Installing it now

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:52 AM

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which means it generated the file using ncontrols permissions

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but if it already exists, it might be root permissions

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:53 AM

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nah because nControl wont make it from scratch

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and it also didnt have root permissions it had non existant ones

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502:staff

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:53 AM

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but ncontrol was the one to innitially pair the device

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:53 AM

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doesnt matter the pairing is still done through bluetoothd

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:53 AM

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hmm alright

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:53 AM

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cuz i just call the same things apple does from settings

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in the Bluetooth.framework

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:54 AM

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Still won’t connect

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:54 AM

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@rapid spade and u did the 'fix pairing' thing again right?

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i assumed it wouldnt help but i had to rule it out (the owner/permission change)

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if u can safely get to 14.3 then it might be worth a shot. cuz im out of ideas

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:56 AM

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can you grab root permissions in uncover?

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idk how sandboxing works

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:56 AM

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Yes

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:56 AM

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@silent anchor u dont need to for this, but yes

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 2:56 AM

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@burnt river yes

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:56 AM

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maybe you do

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:56 AM

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otherwise cydia wouldnt work

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:56 AM

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worth a shot

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:56 AM

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yeh but thats not a small task to add a setuid tool or XPC service to make the attempt

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i mean its not a HUGE task, but its not as quick & easy as anything else ive cobbled together here as a test

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:57 AM

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just checked, that file is owned by mobile:mobile

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if for some reason his is root:root, that might be it

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:57 AM

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yeh i had already checked that im wondering if the actual PATH to the file is the problem, and not the file itself

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:58 AM

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so you confirmed his is owned by mobile mobile? for the plist

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:58 AM

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yes

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i made certain that when he copied it over that it preserved those original permissions

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:58 AM

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wheres ncontrol stored

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containers?

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:58 AM

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nControl is not sandboxed

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or containerized

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its in /Applications

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im also wondering if i could shoehorn access in by adding missing entitlements to the app or anything. should check the bluetoothd ones and experiment with that. but after i take a break. i need to walk away from this for a tiny bit

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:59 AM

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mines 502 staff too

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wtf

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 2:59 AM

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yeh thats my fault

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my user id on my mac is 502

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long story

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 2:59 AM

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lmao

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:00 AM

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but yeh changing that didnt help anything, i wasnt confident that it would

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but i had to rule it out

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 3:00 AM

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Just let me know what to do. I’m going to try to update to iOS 14.3

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:00 AM

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ya updating should make it work regardless

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but were kinda just throwing ideas back and forth

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:00 AM

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@rapid spade thats your best bet. hopefully its just a weird unc0ver issue

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anyhow, going to take a break and watch some tv and just relax for a tiny bit. mentally spent on this right now

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 3:01 AM

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Should I use uncover for the next jailbreak?

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:01 AM

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uncover best yus

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:01 AM

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@rapid spade yeh the newer version should work fine

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:01 AM

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screw tetherd jailbreaks

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 3:01 AM

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I just downloaded the newest update from uncover

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:01 AM

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@silent anchor dont hate i still use checkra1n on 99.99% of my devices lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:02 AM

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i be hating

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especially since im a windows gal

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well

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eh im debating swapping to linux. but still

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:02 AM

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yehhhhh windows support has been a bear lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:02 AM

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i only have linux installed on my secondary laptop, and running it means i have to turn off eufi mode

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so its a pain

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:02 AM

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pretty sure they are still working on it tho

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:02 AM

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so i dont bother

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tbh if i was them i wouldnt bother

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the window has more or less closed

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:03 AM

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ive been lazy with the checkra1n wire/slack updates.

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i mean not really

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its still applicable to tons of devices that still get updates

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:03 AM

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ya but those devices have better solutions now

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aka uncover

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:03 AM

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and ppl still want a windows version, its just a huge PITA

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better is a relative term

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installing ipas is still a huge pain in the ass

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even for seasoned devs lol

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plus 14.4 isnt covered etc

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not everyone can get to 14.3

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:05 AM

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what do you mean

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altstore plus altserver, then reprovision

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ez

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:05 AM

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i dont use alt anything

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not a fan

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and reprovision doesnt always work. and hes discontinued updating the project so one more annoying change by apple and that goes the way of the dodo

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:06 AM

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ya but as of now it still works lol

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 3:07 AM

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I missed my chance to upgrade to 14.3

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:07 AM

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i save blobs like every month or two

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:07 AM

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@rapid spade i was afraid of that

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:07 AM

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wait did they unsign 14.3

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lmao

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:07 AM

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probably

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 3:07 AM

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Yes

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:07 AM

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i think they did that a while ago

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i was thinking u saved blobs or something @rapid spade

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damn

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 3:08 AM

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It’s only 14.4 and 14.4.1

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:08 AM

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yah i knew 14.3 wasnt signed anymore which is why i said "if u can safely get to 14.3"

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ugh

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:08 AM

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everyone should save blobs lol

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:08 AM

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ill try and troubleshoot more later, i need a break and probably some food again

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yeh im not as good about it as i used to be

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 3:09 AM

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I don’t know how. I should look into it

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:09 AM

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i dont have one for 14.4 yet but i think i have all the other 14.x

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:09 AM

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but then again i dont buy devices that arent vuln to checkra1n so i dont really NEED to play that game anymore

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:09 AM

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oh ya i need to redownload tsssaver

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:09 AM

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anyhow, bbl @rapid spade ill try and help more tomorrow. im kind of spent on this for the night

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 3:10 AM

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Sounds good

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 3:10 AM

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same i can literally feel myself becoming useless lol

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oop i think i corrupted my nonce

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 4:22 AM

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guys I was gone for the day

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whatd I miss

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 4:25 AM

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@boreal fable check your DMs

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 4:38 AM

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looks like we found the solution

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 5:36 AM

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🙂

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and im adding a few more niceties to the app and then pushing a new release

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Screen_Shot_2021-03-08_at_10.37.17_PM.png

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to make it easier to share that bluetooth file and log files without mucking around w/ filza or the terminal

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 5:44 AM

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Woo

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 5:47 AM

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and last, but most certainly not least

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Screen_Shot_2021-03-08_at_10.46.48_PM.png

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it will report back whether or not the file editing was successful

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which isnt exactly a solution but is at least more informative

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AND DS5 support is fixed

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 5:48 AM

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Yay

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I forgot what I was doing twice already

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 5:49 AM

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it was exactly what i thought it was and thanks to @boreal fable helping me test out my theory and then then the resulting solution got it all sorted

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okay 1.8.0-1 is now live for tvOS and iOS

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🙂

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updated the wiki for once too

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https://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/NControl

NControl

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okay NOW im done for the day lol.

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can someone with admin privledges make it possible for me to at least pin messages? /cc @verbal galleon

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 6:03 AM

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Manage messages is the thing to pin

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And also delete messages

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 6:03 AM

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ah

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derp

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ty

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 6:04 AM

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Still worth asking

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 6:04 AM

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okay i dont see manage messages, and how would deleting a message change pinning it? lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 6:04 AM

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The permission

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Xd

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You don't have that permission

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But that's the one that's needed

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 6:05 AM

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ah i see what u mean now

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got it

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 6:05 AM

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Lmao

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 6:05 AM

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i mean realistically speaking i should be a mod or whatever on my own channel for a tweak that i write lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 6:05 AM

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Did you get thc too XD

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 6:05 AM

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im practically always high lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 6:05 AM

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Ye that's why I said still worth asking

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I had a big surgery semi recently so I haven't been able to get high, so my tolerance is low. Yay actually.

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 6:16 AM

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lol nice

verbal galleon Mar 9, 2021, 11:53 AM

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burnt river https://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/NControl

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 3:57 PM

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@rapid spade check DMs

wraith ferry Mar 9, 2021, 7:08 PM

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@burnt river is there any way to get you to work on dual-wielded joycons as one controller? Maybe funding to get you joycons?

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 7:22 PM

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@wraith ferry if someone wants to buy me the joycons/grip/charging stuff ill give it another shot

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i cant make any promises tho. my expectations are low.

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i still have to rearchitect nControl pretty heavily to even conceptually support that.

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and joycons are weird, the data sent from the joysticks isnt very granular at all. to make them work as actual joysticks rather than a dpad is something i have no clue about.

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i dont know if nintendo sends some kind of special command to denote its in this different mode to get more useful data.

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and i actually dont need BOTH joycons, i have a blue one, just need red, charger & grip

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its crazy how expensibe they are, imo its not even a good controller 🤣

wraith ferry Mar 9, 2021, 7:46 PM

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burnt river and i actually dont need BOTH joycons, i have a blue one, just need red, charger...

I don't think a charger exists

wraith ferry Mar 9, 2021, 7:46 PM

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burnt river its crazy how expensibe they are, imo its not even a good controller 🤣

Tru, I just wish I could use them with my phone as if it were a switch

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I thought about using an Arduino to convert the data to ps4-style packets

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 7:49 PM

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ofc chargers exist

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how else would u charge them? 🤣

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its just tough because nintendo does everything weird

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theres this SPI data the pro sends for calibration and parsing it is a nightmare

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and dont get me started on the absurd wiimote pairing process that kept me from supporting those

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speaking of chargers they are the cheapest part 🤣

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ill even buy the charging grip. but i cant find a reasonably priced single joycon

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not spending $50 on one joycon

limpid ruin Mar 9, 2021, 8:00 PM

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Well that is half the price of a pair

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 8:01 PM

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where? the pair of official ones is like $70 everywhere i look

limpid ruin Mar 9, 2021, 8:01 PM

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Canada it's about $100

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 8:01 PM

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which is crack rock smoking on nintendos part

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one of them isnt even worth $20

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imo

limpid ruin Mar 9, 2021, 8:02 PM

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But yeah if a pair is $70 $50 is just a robbery

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 8:02 PM

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yeh i couldnt find a single cheaper than that

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from cursory searches

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and fuuuuuuuuuck that

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hard pass on “sharing” this “deal” 🤣

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limpid ruin Mar 9, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Could check out sites like Craigslist

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Might be a good deal on one or a pair on there

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 8:09 PM

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burnt river i dont know if nintendo sends some kind of special command to denote its in this...

My theory is it just sends raw data and the switch itself processes it after

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Would make it easier to update switch firmware and still have things work and third party controller support would be easier that way

wraith ferry Mar 9, 2021, 8:21 PM

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@burnt river seems like the new update didn't fix the dualsense connection issue I have

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It still disconnects after .5s

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 8:30 PM

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@wraith ferry u need to fix pairing issues on EVERY controller individually

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its not a universal wholesale thing

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its certainly not ideal and i could prob automate it in some way but i just wanted to get some kind of solution out

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 8:35 PM

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silent anchor My theory is it just sends raw data and the switch itself processes it after

i can see the data sent

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its about what switch sends to it

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and not owning a switch i cant determine that

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 8:36 PM

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I own one so

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And it's hacked

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So let me know you know

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I can even open the ssh and just let you connect to it if you want

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 8:37 PM

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yeh i honestly dont even know how to capture data from it if i did own one

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hardware isnt my specialty

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 8:49 PM

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Switch has been hacked long enough that you can probably find documentation on how the controllers work

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 8:53 PM

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@silent anchor ive read em all, and since hardware isnt my thing, ive taken those docs as far as they can take me

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Well open offer. I got a wide open switch if you wanna test stuff

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 8:54 PM

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appreciate it

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ill let u know

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 8:54 PM

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❤️

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 8:54 PM

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https://github.com/dekuNukem/Nintendo_Switch_Reverse_Engineering also these are most exhaustive docs

GitHub

dekuNukem/Nintendo_Switch_Reverse_Engineering

A look at inner workings of Joycon and Nintendo Switch - dekuNukem/Nintendo_Switch_Reverse_Engineering

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tbh i think this pairing issue needs to be highest priority until properly sorted

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 9:32 PM

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@silent anchor one thing u could still help with is doing more research into this issue with me (the connecting / pairing one)

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 9:32 PM

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Ye

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What devices does it not work with I wonder if I can find an old phone and just open up ssh and let you connect

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 9:40 PM

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@silent anchor so its all devices apple doesnt approve what i would like to do is have you grepping a system log for any feedback from 'bluetoothd' when it connects and disconnects

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@silent anchor the reason this is useful is this is how i found other places to hook/patch when i first diagnosed the problem

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 9:41 PM

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What's the ios version of journalctl

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 9:41 PM

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they are very log happy, and strings they print out when it disconnects could be useful to pinpoint what is happening

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i dont even know what jounralctl is lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 9:42 PM

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silent anchor What's the ios version of journalctl

idevicesyslog

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Lol the kernel logs basically for Linux

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 9:42 PM

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silent anchor idevicesyslog

Tanks ❤️

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though that's not on device

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connect to computer and do it there

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 9:42 PM

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ah

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 9:42 PM

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Uhh anything I can use through ssh?

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on device I don't remember how to get it except through sysdiagnose

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 9:42 PM

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there MIGHT be a way to view syslog on device now

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 9:42 PM

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press both volume buttons + power button at the same time

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it will capture a sysdiagnose that may take like up to 10 mins

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do this after triggering the issue

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and it should be somewhere in /var/mobile/Library/Logs/CrashReporter

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a better way probably exists for jailbroken devices

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 9:43 PM

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@silent anchor nothing crashes

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its just bluetoothd smacking it down

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 9:43 PM

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burnt river <@456226577798135808> nothing crashes

yeah but sysdiagnose is saved to the same place as crash logs

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just has to be manually triggered

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 9:43 PM

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so a log of that in real time is going to be the most useful thing

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specifically grepping 'bluetoothd'

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 9:44 PM

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Looks like sys diagnose is on device

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yeah but it's not realtime

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Wheres bluetoothd

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 9:46 PM

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/usr/sbin @silent anchor but u dont need to focus on where its located

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its logs go same place as every other log does which u can get at with idevicesyslog

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but for instance when it disconnects for me it says Rejecting unapproved game controller device

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which allowed me to find the functions to hook to circumvent those checks

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i assume it says something different when the cache check is what is invalidating it

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 9:47 PM

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Wheres idevicesyslog

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 9:47 PM

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its part of libimobiledevice

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so if u have that installed, you'll have it

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and itll be on your comp not on your device

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still trying to find out if there is something on device that will log out oslog

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 9:48 PM

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Unable to locate package Libimobiledevice

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Ah it's utils

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Wait what

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No device found. My dude you're running on the device

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 9:50 PM

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apt-get install net.limneos.oslog

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on device should get you os_log on device

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 9:50 PM

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God damn ok um

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Does grep work live

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 9:52 PM

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yeh it spits out alot so you'll have to start it test it and exit pretty quick to catch any helpful logs it might spit out

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yep

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and if u wanna grep JUST bluetoothd

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oslog | grep "bluetoothd(" should do the trick

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 9:53 PM

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Alright got it

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 9:53 PM

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so yeh either undo that change to your switch controller and connect again

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or find another controller to test

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either should be fine

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while grepping that log

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 9:54 PM

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Ya I'll Judy do the unpair thing one sec

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 9:54 PM

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cool ty

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 9:58 PM

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Ok got it

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Pfft wow I ran it for like

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20 seconds

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1000 lines

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 10:46 PM

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eyyy we got it

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 10:53 PM

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indeed we did

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its actually fixed properly now, no need to do "fix pairing issues" anymore

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 10:53 PM

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no need for janky haxx m8

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 10:53 PM

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and im a complete idiot and need to walk away from the computer for the rest of the day

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on that note 1.8.0-10 is now live for both iOS and tvOS

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 10:54 PM

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get really high. why do you think it took me so long to figure out how to install the logger lol

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 10:54 PM

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lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 10:55 PM

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now fix pngs REEE

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 10:55 PM

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this should fix the issue for @rapid spade too

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huh

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 10:56 PM

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smart man fix another problem

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png no work

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make sakura angary

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Wheres the transparency summer

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Wait what

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But... Then why

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I need a moment lol

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 10:57 PM

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png doesnt work where

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i have a pile of problems to fix already lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 10:58 PM

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I.. I'm so confused

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AND NOW IT DOESN'T WORK WHAT

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Test

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 10:58 PM

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im seeing pictures? what isnt working?

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 10:58 PM

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Whhhh

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IT'S THE SAME IMAGE

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 10:58 PM

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and?

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oh

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i see

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 10:59 PM

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What do you mean

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 10:59 PM

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huh

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 10:59 PM

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I'm literally so confused

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 10:59 PM

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sorry i get it now. doing too many things at once and needed to actually look for more than a second

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so its the same image, what are u doing differently?

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it has to be something

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 10:59 PM

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Nothing I think

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 10:59 PM

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i mean how are you sending it? the same way both times?

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 10:59 PM

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Heck it I don't care if this channel isn't for this and I was literally joking

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 10:59 PM

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cuz that just doesnt make sense

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 10:59 PM

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I'm figuring this out

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Is it the length of the Text with it

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:00 PM

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eh u just helped me figure out a huge issue i dont give a fuck what u do right now

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:00 PM

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Ok so

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How did it work before

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burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:01 PM

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fascinating

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:01 PM

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Wh

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How did it work before I'm doing the same thing

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:01 PM

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if i open it in safari (the original post) it has the grey bg like displayed here

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super weird

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:02 PM

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silent anchor Wheres the transparency summer

This one is a png

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:02 PM

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silent anchor

This one is a jpeg

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IT'S THE SAME IMAGE

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:02 PM

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well i mean jpeg doesnt have a concept of transparency

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:02 PM

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Exactly. That's why I said fix pngs

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But like

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What

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:03 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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i got nothing lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:03 PM

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Imma just

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Not bother

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:03 PM

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id blame discord

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:03 PM

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It's possible

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:03 PM

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cuz electron

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but it shows up funky in a web browser too

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i mean they are both web tech

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:03 PM

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Psst guess what

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:03 PM

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but .... i dunno

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yeh i know

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dont mind me, my brain is spent all of a sudden. i just feel so fucking stupid i want to crawl in a hole and die

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lol

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not even a typo in the code itself, a typo in the fucking MAKE SCRIPT

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:04 PM

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It kinda just

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Randomly works

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:04 PM

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just fuck

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:04 PM

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And then doesn't the rest of the time

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:04 PM

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lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:05 PM

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burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:05 PM

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at least it all makes sense to me now tho- no more odd unexplainable ambiguity

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:05 PM

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And then now it works

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For no reason

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:05 PM

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magic

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:05 PM

#

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And now it doesn't. For also no reason

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Same image.

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:05 PM

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maybe its like that dress

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but digital

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lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:06 PM

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Omg lol

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:06 PM

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its grey damnit

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lol okay im done

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:06 PM

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Go get high fren

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We did it. Do a relax

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:06 PM

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i kinda always am as i said before 😉

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cooler than a polar bears toenails friend

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:07 PM

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Ok. Go do more lol

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Or get a burger

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God now I want a burger

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My roommate is mad at me. Remember the one I spent all day yesterday supporting?

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I'm.hoping tomorrow or in a few days she will be fine.

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But until then I'm low key kinda avoiding her

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So ordering a burger sounds good

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Cuz hecc making food

wraith ferry Mar 9, 2021, 11:09 PM

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So how did ya fix the issues?

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:10 PM

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Square peg goes in square hole

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Not round hole

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Funnily enough that's legit what happened

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:13 PM

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@wraith ferry it was a build script mistake where tvOS dylib->iOS and visa versa

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:14 PM

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square peg, round hole

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:14 PM

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and it didnt matter with checkra1n cuz there are extra patches in dyld to make it possible for either to run on either. but that wasnt always the case in other jailbreaks

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and i finally drew the conclusion that the dylib just wasnt loading at all when @silent anchor sent me some logs

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saw the error, checked the files with otool, saw they were built for ios and tvos respectively on the wrong devices. and was like.. shit.

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and thats why there were so many unexplainable issues that didnt make sense.

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the dylibs were never loading at all

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in certain circumstances

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:17 PM

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funnily enough

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my fix was the only fix that would have ever worked

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:17 PM

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hahaha

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 11:17 PM

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am i wrong though?

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XD

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 11:18 PM

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probably not?

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can never say for certain, bluetooth is kind of a sieve

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🙂

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as is its implementation

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that is a such a weight off my back figuring that out finally.

wraith ferry Mar 10, 2021, 12:37 AM

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burnt river <@!123416893389275139> it was a build script mistake where tvOS dylib->iOS and v...

oh lol very nice, just tried the update and the dualsense works!!

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Now it's the joycons' turn to shine xd

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Seriously tho, great debugging work 😄

burnt river Mar 10, 2021, 6:02 AM

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just added about 4-5 new controllers that will be in next release

real folio Mar 10, 2021, 8:15 AM

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yo yo

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wassss good in this half dead channel

hot hearth Mar 10, 2021, 8:16 AM

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Selfbot checks

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yalu

real folio Mar 10, 2021, 8:16 AM

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ik that's why im here

dark vault Mar 10, 2021, 8:16 AM

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!gcreate

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F

grave monolith Mar 10, 2021, 8:16 AM

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click it ultra

hot hearth Mar 10, 2021, 8:16 AM

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L it’s not here

hot hearth Mar 10, 2021, 8:16 AM

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grave monolith click it ultra

realization

dark vault Mar 10, 2021, 8:16 AM

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I’ll try botspam

hot hearth Mar 10, 2021, 8:17 AM

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the bot isn’t in the server

dark vault Mar 10, 2021, 8:17 AM

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Yep

real folio Mar 10, 2021, 8:17 AM

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hot hearth Selfbot checks

is that Kim Jong-un on the yalu logo?

hot hearth Mar 10, 2021, 8:17 AM

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yeah

real folio Mar 10, 2021, 8:17 AM

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uh

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why

grave monolith Mar 10, 2021, 8:17 AM

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imagine the winner popping up as a result

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hot hearth Mar 10, 2021, 8:17 AM

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idk that’s how the logo is

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cause of Kim Jong Cracks

real folio Mar 10, 2021, 8:17 AM

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never realized that

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then again

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i never used legacy

grave monolith Mar 10, 2021, 8:17 AM

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kim jong needs to lose weight

real folio Mar 10, 2021, 8:18 AM

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when legacy wasn't legacy

dark vault Mar 10, 2021, 8:18 AM

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Welp lets move along people , don’t wanna clog the channel

hot hearth Mar 10, 2021, 8:18 AM

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true

real folio Mar 10, 2021, 8:18 AM

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ima move along to bed

hot hearth Mar 10, 2021, 8:18 AM

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gn

real folio Mar 10, 2021, 8:18 AM

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well

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not this second

burnt river Mar 10, 2021, 9:01 AM

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also this channel is not half dead.. it WAS very dead for a while but is quite active the last few days

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speaking of which

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8Bitdo SF30 Pro
MOGA XP5-X Plus (vid: 9414 pid: 35098)
GameSir G4s
Hori Lic Pro Controller (vid: 3853 pid: 246) are all supported now

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and i fixed the configuration crash

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(custom control mapping)

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so if anyone is ever wondering if i actually look at the learning controller reports... i do now 😉

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those are probably broken on 14 now tho for the same reason custom mapping was broken

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apple keeps pulling shit from underneath me lol

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and my replacement for getting some of these details still doesnt get me everything i need anymore. so i gotta address that issue still

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28 controllers supported, not bad 🙂

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and 6 of those are from the report learning feature. i plan to do as many as possible in the list of like 1000 some, although there are a bunch of repeats

grave monolith Mar 10, 2021, 9:26 AM

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you can tell when Kevin is on his broken bluetooth macbook rather than his iphone 😛

burnt river Mar 10, 2021, 9:43 AM

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or my ipad pro lol. im that alot now too (got it for/from work) but its been helpful because i missed having a modern ipad. my personal one is an ipad 2 lol

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but at the end of the day the 'learning mode' should only be a stop-gap stepping stone anyway. i really just need proper HID descriptor parsing so any controller just works immediately.

wraith ferry Mar 10, 2021, 2:39 PM

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burnt river so if anyone is ever wondering if i actually look at the learning controller rep...

speaking of controller reports...

the dualsense's touchpad maps to "start" and its start and share buttons aren't correctly mapped to the dualshock 4 ones

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:(

burnt river Mar 10, 2021, 2:42 PM

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the touchpad isnt possible to properly support

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it only sends data when pressed

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and ps4 goes through system support, i just pass it thru

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as far as how the ps4 option/share buttons work cs how dual sense works the raw reports didnt indicate any changes there

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and without owning that controller there isnt much more i can do

burnt river Mar 10, 2021, 3:19 PM

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its a shame these controllers are all brutally overpriced. $70 for a dualsense? hard pass

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imo there isnt a controller in existance worth more than $50

wintry ruin Mar 10, 2021, 3:57 PM

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anyone remember yalu

burnt river Mar 10, 2021, 3:59 PM

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of course

wintry ruin Mar 10, 2021, 4:07 PM

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wb pangu

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or blackra1n

burnt river Mar 10, 2021, 4:22 PM

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of course 😉 lol

wintry ruin Mar 10, 2021, 4:25 PM

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so what were the jailbreaks list

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like blackra1n-redsn0w-...

silent anchor Mar 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Pfft that's nothing, anyone remember limerain?

burnt river Mar 10, 2021, 5:54 PM

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couldnt forget it, i spent a lot of time using it in Seas0nPass 😉

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anyone remember ZiPhone? lol

quiet goblet Mar 10, 2021, 10:40 PM

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Damn

silent anchor Mar 10, 2021, 10:40 PM

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hi

quiet goblet Mar 10, 2021, 10:40 PM

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Do be they be getting smarter

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huh

burnt river Mar 11, 2021, 2:27 AM

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1.8.2-2 out for both iOS and tvOS. more cleanup / bug fixes. learning controllers should work again, and DS4 and Xbox controllers werent passing through properly but that should be fixed now as well.

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and another controller added, im less confident this one will work perfectly oob but id be happy to be proven wrong lol. potential support added for the nvidia controller

burnt river Mar 11, 2021, 3:49 AM

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had to do some backflips to get access to the data i wanted / needed. but got it done

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lol

wraith ferry Mar 11, 2021, 11:54 AM

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wintry ruin anyone remember yalu

my first jb was evasi0n

wraith ferry Mar 11, 2021, 8:52 PM

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burnt river and without owning that controller there isnt much more i can do

there's a community dedicated to reverse-engineering the DualSense, they have bluetooth and wired reports available if they're needed :D

burnt river Mar 11, 2021, 10:27 PM

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@wraith ferry its probably pretty much identical to dual shock

wraith ferry Mar 11, 2021, 11:37 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

wraith ferry Mar 12, 2021, 9:16 PM

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burnt river <@123416893389275139> its probably pretty much identical to dual shock

https://github.com/nondebug/dualsense/blob/main/report-descriptor-bluetooth.txt

GitHub

nondebug/dualsense

Information about Sony's DualSense gamepad. Contribute to nondebug/dualsense development by creating an account on GitHub.

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Is there any way to remap controls on my own?

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It really is annoying that I can't use share, touchpad and start as they were intended to 😅

burnt river Mar 12, 2021, 9:52 PM

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@wraith ferry theres a ui to remap the controls, but it doesnt include the touchpad.

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although apple does appear to track things in it now, so i might be able to wrangle something, cant promise anything tho. im working on hid parsing atm though

half glade Mar 12, 2021, 10:18 PM

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hi! is there anyway to download ncontrol without cydia? i bought it from repo.packix as a way to avoid jailbreaking but i can’t seem to figure it out if it works 😦

limpid ruin Mar 12, 2021, 10:42 PM

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You need to jailbreak to install any tweaks

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@half glade

half glade Mar 12, 2021, 10:49 PM

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ty!

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 12:45 AM

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yeh it 100% needs a jailbreak to work

silent anchor Mar 13, 2021, 2:11 AM

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@burnt river any news for ncontrol?

opaque glacier Mar 13, 2021, 4:50 AM

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@burnt river PS4 DualShock connecting but freezing after 10-15 secs on nControl controller test screen. nControl 1.8.3-1 on 14.3 8gen iPad jailbroke with latest unc0ver. Can’t even get the controller to function in a game

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@burnt river https://twitter.com/jarmster123/status/1370496058925649924?s=21

James Armstrong (@jarmster123)

https://t.co/UPoeRkaQOt

▶ Play video

opaque glacier Mar 13, 2021, 6:36 AM

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That zagg message in the log is my Bluetooth keyboard. I’ve disabled it and and trying to connect the controller again but I’m not having any luck this morning.

📎 controllersupport-Error.log

agile mulch Mar 13, 2021, 7:20 AM

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@burnt river

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 10:04 AM

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ps4 is supposed to just be passed through for apple support

opaque glacier Mar 13, 2021, 1:22 PM

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burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 1:37 PM

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yeh it says its passing in through

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if the controller stops working thats an apple bug not an ncontrol one

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since ps4 is just passed through

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and tbh their ps4 support is atrocious. it stops working all the time for me too

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i may have to look into hijacking and overriding their support since its so bad

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but if i dont pass it through things get all funky because we both handle it, hence why id have to hijack and override theirs

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@silent anchor try the latest, most of the major bugs bein reported have been fixed

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@opaque glacier ill look into getting around apple support for it since its so horrendously buggy and try to make ncontrol take over as an option as again

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i was hoping by iOS 14 their support would improve cuz it was garbage in 13 too

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they cant even sherlock my stuff properly 🤣

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 3:13 PM

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and it looks like in 14 they kinda do something with the touchpad, ill investigate how that works as well

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 3:31 PM

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hmm thats fascinating and super weird, my controller test view isnt picking up the events from a DS4, yet if i leave that view it actually still works.

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 4:07 PM

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and then the next time it does just stop working...lol

opaque glacier Mar 13, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Oh? If the controller connected and the test didn’t show any function, I assumed it didn’t work. Never tried a game

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 4:38 PM

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@opaque glacier its weird and unpredictable. it definitely stops working a lot. their implementation is not good or reliable at all

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i knew it was bad in 13 as i mentioned earlier, but i hadnt really played w/ it too much in 14 until last few days and its still REALLLLLLLLY bad.

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this is really confusing lol. i unloaded my daemon, it worked fine, loaded it again and it still works fine. no matter what its REALLY unpredictable.

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im still messing w/ it. i dont have any good answers at the moment except turn it on and off until it works properly lol. thats the only way i can get a DS4 to actually be usable. lol

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with or without ncontrol running lol.

opaque glacier Mar 13, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Ya I’ve been trying the last hour. I can connect and

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And then it freezes or drops..i dont know but the test app stops responding

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 4:58 PM

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yeh the test app doesnt work well with it for some reason. sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt and im not sure why right now. still poking at it

opaque glacier Mar 13, 2021, 4:58 PM

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I haven’t gotten it to work with a game yet. I’m not sure if it’s dropping because I’m switching apps or for the same reason it drops while using the test screen

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 4:59 PM

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@opaque glacier i know for certain it drops out with or without ncontrol running, i thought for a moment it worked better without it running but i was disproven 5 seconds later running these tests. im trying to figure out how i can override it so i just take over for them instead.

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and just make it an optional thing u can toggle on and off to have nControl just take over for DS4 still

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 6:15 PM

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okay i think i found a way to do that. its a bit of a hack but it appears to work so...

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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good god even with my implementation its dropping out alot. what the hell is up with these things

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wondering if its a battery or charging issue

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had it plugged in all night but maybe not to a proper power source, cuz the light wasnt doing its little charging slow flashing glow thing that it it is now.

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 6:49 PM

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@opaque glacier i imagine you have made sure that its properly fully charged (i thought i had but clearly hadnt lol) nonetheless i've put together a new version that can toggle support between apples and nControls for the PS4 controller, after a little more testing ill put out a new version and you can see if that works any better for you.

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have to hook IOKit to do what im doing, but it works lol. just glad i had code laying around for the research phase of this project that hooked exactly what i needed to do this

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come to think of it, with this i could potentially force the DS5 to conversely use apples support for the DS4 FOR the 5.

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i bet @wraith ferry would be interested in that idea 😛

wraith ferry Mar 13, 2021, 7:02 PM

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burnt river i bet <@!123416893389275139> would be interested in that idea 😛

Aw yis :)

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 7:02 PM

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i cant promise it will work, but it SHOULD if u wanna be a guinea pig i could add that and u could test it out b4 i put it out

opaque glacier Mar 13, 2021, 7:04 PM

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Nice. Is this only a problem with ds4 controllers?

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 7:23 PM

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@opaque glacier as far as i know

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i dont THINK Xbox ones drop out like this

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dont remember hearing any reports or experiencing it either

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@wraith ferry i have a build where DS5 could potentially attempt to use built in support for DS4 if u want to give it a spin

wraith ferry Mar 13, 2021, 7:37 PM

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burnt river <@!123416893389275139> i have a build where DS5 could potentially attempt to use...

Sure

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 7:39 PM

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@wraith ferry i cant DM you lol

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send me a DM or friend me or whatever u need to do, not dropping debs in the room lol

wraith ferry Mar 13, 2021, 7:40 PM

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burnt river send me a DM or friend me or whatever u need to do, not dropping debs in the roo...

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 7:41 PM

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it gave me the same error but i dont limit who can message me

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@wraith ferry i just sent a friend request maybe that will fix it lol.

wraith ferry Mar 13, 2021, 7:42 PM

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burnt river <@!123416893389275139> i just sent a friend request maybe that will fix it lol.

Accepted ^^

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 7:42 PM

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okay check your DMs no lol

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now

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@wraith ferry getting my DMs?

burnt river Mar 13, 2021, 9:45 PM

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im no longer sure who is to blame for the disconnects, happens with my code too, its starting to actually sound like a sony issue. im going to keep investigating tho

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 1:04 AM

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either way new nControl out where you can switch between nControl and apple support for DS4, AND alternatively you can have it use built in DS4 support to support the DS5 (mostly).

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either way i probably gotta stop working on this for a bit lol.

opaque glacier Mar 14, 2021, 1:09 AM

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Thanks @burnt river . For everything 👍

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 1:09 AM

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no problem 🙂

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 4:32 AM

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i might still try to cobble together some kind of hid descriptor parsing before i step away again, kind of bound and determined to fully understand that. i should by now 🤣

rapid spade Mar 14, 2021, 6:37 AM

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I’m liking all of these updates. My PS5 controller pairs easily now. Very rarely though for about 30 seconds it will sort of disconnect while playing cod mobile. Usually only happens after being connected and playing for a couple hours. So far, I’m digging it.

ruby flame Mar 14, 2021, 12:32 PM

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Hello,
I tried to use an Ipega 9156 controller with NControl 1.8.3-1, which was recognized as an evo vr pro but it was not in the list ...
NControl no longer recognizes the PG-9156 since the last update (1.8.4-1) ...
Is there another way to operate this controller on NControl?

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 2:12 PM

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@ruby flame looks like one of my changes mustve broken that support ill look into it later today, sorry about that!

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 3:10 PM

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made some consolidation changes where id stop building repeat files to add support to controllers that used the same mapping to improve build speeds and apparently that broke somethin. hoping thr ipega i have is a sufficient test. dont remem the model

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just ordered some refurb joycons so i actually have a set

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and a charging grip, hopefully having my own will yield more luck getting it to work as a single controller

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ebay was way to go, got all of that for less than a set of new joycons by themselves 😂

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granted its gray joycons with a red charging grip, so theres no matching but idgaf bout all that 🤷‍♂️

loud bridge Mar 14, 2021, 6:41 PM

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@burnt river the grips don’t actually do anything special in terms of connectivity

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it’s just charging

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 6:47 PM

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@loud bridge i dont have any way to charge them otherwise lol

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i dont own a switch

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so i might as well get the charging grip

loud bridge Mar 14, 2021, 6:48 PM

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true true

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how much is that out of pocket

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 6:48 PM

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it was like $60 total

loud bridge Mar 14, 2021, 6:48 PM

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jfc

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 6:48 PM

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lol

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i mean the joycons by themselves are usually $70

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which is still ridiculous

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but that + the charging shit wouldve brand new been like $90-$100 total

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and that wasnt something i was willing to do, $60, i dont enjoy doing it, but ill live.

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it was the fact they are all still official nintendo stuff (albeit used) and i was still spending less than a pair of brand new joycons that i was like 'fuck it'

loud bridge Mar 14, 2021, 6:50 PM

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you somehow need to map them together to work as one controller

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easier said than done

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 6:51 PM

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thats literally the only reason i bought them

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haha

loud bridge Mar 14, 2021, 6:51 PM

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i’ve managed to make it work on windows before

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 6:51 PM

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i have just one of the two and no charging shit, and even single joycons are even MORE absurdly priced

loud bridge Mar 14, 2021, 6:51 PM

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virtual controller which responds to the two controllers button presses

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 6:51 PM

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and the one single one i have is a little janky, so i figured just buy a pair and a charging grip and im set

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i mean my controllers are all already virtual, theres just no support for two hid devices to register as one virtual. its possible, but itll be much easier to figure out if i actually HAVE the controllers in question

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most of the stuff i can implement with enough raw report info and an HID descriptor, but this is different lol.

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and i kept looking on amazon for anything reasonably priced, never saw anything that was official nintendo gear (and while the other knockoffs probably act the same, it just isnt the same. need to be certain i get it working with the proper controller) hence me looking to used stuff on ebay

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cuz idgaf about its condition, im not ever going to use the controllers after i get this working lol

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as long as they function properly im good lol

loud bridge Mar 14, 2021, 6:55 PM

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have you got the pro controller working yet?

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 6:56 PM

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and the condition is 'refurbished' so im sure they fine

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pro controller has worked forever

loud bridge Mar 14, 2021, 6:56 PM

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ahh

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 6:56 PM

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if u are talking about the pairing issues that bug was also fixed

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and it wasnt even really a 'bug' it was a goddamn make file issue

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lol

loud bridge Mar 14, 2021, 6:56 PM

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the only issues you’ll probably have with joycons as a controller is the stick drift lol

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 6:56 PM

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the pro has the same issue

loud bridge Mar 14, 2021, 6:56 PM

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but that’s now a all controller issue

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xbox series and ds5 controllers use the same joysticks

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 6:57 PM

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and it has indecipherable SPI data telling u about joystick calibration shit but i never could parse it successfully

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i also just realized that USB devices (connected through camera kit or whatever its called) dont show up in the contorller list because they dont have an associated blue tooth device / object so im fixing that as well. which distracted me from the HID parsing thing i wanted to do. cuz thats really what i SHOULD be doing. parsing those descriptors and then any new controllers i dont already support would mostly "just work" if i did it right

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oh and i gotta fix the ipega thing i broke in the latest v. lol i think i need to take a break.

ruby flame Mar 14, 2021, 7:19 PM

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burnt river oh and i gotta fix the ipega thing i broke in the latest v. lol i think i need t...

There is no urgency 😉 and if you need me to do tests I am at your disposal ...
Do you want me to send you my "Controllersupport-Error.log" file?

quartz cove Mar 14, 2021, 8:24 PM

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Is this the tweak that enables controllers

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 8:31 PM

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@quartz cove yes

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http://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/NControl

NControl

quartz cove Mar 14, 2021, 8:35 PM

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@burnt river is this a paid or free tweak because I sadly don’t have a paypal

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 8:50 PM

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@quartz cove paid tweak, sorry

quartz cove Mar 14, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Dang 😦 well fingers it is

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 8:53 PM

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ruby flame There is no urgency 😉 and if you need me to do tests I am at your disposal ... ...

i think i MIGHT already see the issue

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yep, thats gotta be it. will be fixed in next build

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 9:18 PM

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@ruby flame grab latest version and it SHOULD work again, let me know.

ruby flame Mar 14, 2021, 10:40 PM

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burnt river i think i MIGHT already see the issue

I'm sorry but it does not work.
I may not have understood something.

sharp osprey Mar 14, 2021, 11:31 PM

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does ncontrol support external keyboards?

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 11:39 PM

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@ruby flame ok thats weird i literally just reverted to what usef to work

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@sharp osprey no keyboards are not currently supported

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@ruby flame you installed the latest update right?

sharp osprey Mar 14, 2021, 11:46 PM

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burnt river <@343220602556907521> no keyboards are not currently supported

do you know any tweak that actually supports keyboard?

ruby flame Mar 14, 2021, 11:48 PM

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@burnt river

Yes I installed the last update

I tried the Controller PG-P9156 in several emulators but it does not work on none.

What is even strange is that my controller is recognized but nothing works

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@burnt river It did not work, in version 183 but NControl recognized it.
Version 184 did not recognize it and version 185 has the same problem as version 183

burnt river Mar 14, 2021, 11:56 PM

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@ruby flame weird ok, ill have to do a debug session tomorrow

ruby flame Mar 15, 2021, 12:06 AM

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@burnt river As I said above there is no emergency and I am at your disposal to try to find a solution.

burnt river Mar 15, 2021, 12:17 AM

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@ruby flame i know i still just want to figure it out sooner than later

burnt river Mar 15, 2021, 12:18 PM

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ah i think i finally figured out why i wasnt getting more useful report data from joycons. guess ill find out if im right when they get here

wraith ferry Mar 15, 2021, 6:27 PM

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burnt river ah i think i finally figured out why i wasnt getting more useful report data fro...

WOOO

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I'm always hopeful for that sweet dual joycon mode

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@burnt river https://github.com/dekuNukem/Nintendo_Switch_Reverse_Engineering/blob/master/bluetooth_hid_notes.md have you seen this stuff?

GitHub

dekuNukem/Nintendo_Switch_Reverse_Engineering

A look at inner workings of Joycon and Nintendo Switch - dekuNukem/Nintendo_Switch_Reverse_Engineering

burnt river Mar 15, 2021, 8:27 PM

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@wraith ferry yes ive read through it extensively

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its how i have lights and rumbling and all that stuff working with the switch pro controller

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and where i looked again to see there are indeed different input modes you can change to for more precise information from the joycons

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and thats one of the big things i was missing to make this into a workable experience

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because the simple HID mode treats the joysticks like a dpad

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so the data u get from them could never be sanely translated into the requisite data for a joystick

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that was the biggest stumbling block tbh and why i never tried that hard to begin with to try and implement them as one controller. that and the lack of having both controllers and a way to charge them

burnt river Mar 15, 2021, 8:49 PM

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i figured there had to be something like this i was missing and i finally figured out what it was

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but i have to wait for my joycons and charging grip get here to actually see how that makes the data differ, because yeh he has it documented but i find some of his stuff difficult to parse or put into play. like the SPI stuff i just couldnt fully wrap my head around how to use it. and his example code doesnt 'just work' like you'd expect it to.

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however i am going to try and plan on how two controllers will work as one, cuz (and im embarassed that i didnt think of this sooner) i can just do the exact same thing with two other supported controllers (join them as one) just to conceptually get it working.

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so i'll have less work once they get here

remote shoal Mar 17, 2021, 3:07 PM

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hi! I'm looking to get support for Feizhi Wee 2T. Found in the past that someone tried to start something but didn't follow through.

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📎 controllersupport-Error.log

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ncontrol crashes at the end of the tests after R3

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using cr4shed, noticed the error was due to
"Exception type: NSInternalInconsistencyException
Reason: Modifications to the layout engine must not be performed from a background thread after it has been accessed from the main thread.
Culprit: Unknown"

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so yeah, seems like quite minimal leads to go about debugging, but let me know how I can help to support this! it's an awesome, cheap telescopic controller i normally use for Android

burnt river Mar 17, 2021, 3:44 PM

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@remote shoal thats actuallq last remaining known & elusive crash. if i detach for main thread it sits forever than locks up the ui until force quit. so the crash actually seemed preferrable. your report liklely still made it through

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ill take a look to check

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if not the raw report is still on device

burnt river Mar 17, 2021, 4:48 PM

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and if i dont see the report in db ( havent checked yet ) ill tell u how to send it to me manually

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@remote shoal i see a few different attempts, a few of the reports came through empty, (guessing its a controller with multiple modes) one of the reports is NOT empty though so hopefully it has the data needed to make it work

burnt river Mar 17, 2021, 5:23 PM

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@remote shoal we're going to need to do a live / manual debug session with that controller to get it added.

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its report descriptors are on crack so i cant use them for anything, the report u sent MIGHT work but it advertising as a stylus and not a game controller so its kind of confusing

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oh wait the report desc is actually okay but those reports came back empty, so yeh that might need some manual debugging

remote shoal Mar 18, 2021, 1:01 AM

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burnt river <@!821748513468710933> i see a few different attempts, a few of the reports came...

yeah i tried a few times. one of the modes (of two modes) shows up as 4 separate devices. before iOS13, it used to be able to emulate touch controls. which i assume is why it shows up as a stylus. this mode seemed able to output some RAW values, but i figured it was difficult to narrow which of the 4 to work with. if you log device names in the db, it should say Feizhi Wee 2T-I

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the other mode, which is the one for which i attached the logs doesn’t seem to spit any RAW values in the controllerd logs

remote shoal Mar 18, 2021, 1:02 AM

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burnt river oh wait the report desc is actually okay but those reports came back empty, so y...

sure let me know what i can do!

burnt river Mar 18, 2021, 1:13 AM

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@remote shoal it shows up as 4 devices in one mode? 🤣

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dafuq

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oh is it one of those controllers that attaches to both sides like its some kinda weird joycon?

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speaking of joycons i got the standard report format mostly parsed properly for the pro controller which will pave way for easier support in joycons

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and also just added support for master/puppet controller dynamic where two controllers could potentially work as one. untested thus far, but much closer to prepared for that kind of setup

burnt river Mar 18, 2021, 2:20 AM

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and now its actually tested 🙂 made an evo and a switch pro controller think they were one controller just now to have one handle events from both. so once i can get the joystick stuff normalized properly it'll totally be possible to make it possible for it to treat two joycons as one 😄

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both GCController instances are still alive so its kind of janky- but ill worry about that later. lol

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@wraith ferry this places the two controllers as one idea firmly into reality territory. it doesnt do anything useful yet because i just wanted to get a POC working.

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this also forced me to make the controllers more accessible to myself inside the daemon (and potentially outside as well) which is a good thing because now testing certain things out that was tedious and cumbersome before is super easy now

remote shoal Mar 18, 2021, 9:32 AM

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burnt river oh is it one of those controllers that attaches to both sides like its some kind...

yeah it’s this one! https://www.amazon.com/Flydigi-Bluetooth-Controller-Telescopic-Connecting/dp/B07TD4K8HZ?th=1&psc=1

wraith ferry Mar 18, 2021, 10:11 AM

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burnt river <@!123416893389275139> this places the two controllers as one idea firmly into r...

Aw yissss congratulations 🎉

burnt river Mar 18, 2021, 1:02 PM

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wraith ferry Aw yissss congratulations 🎉

ty, was def no small feat 😂

burnt river Mar 18, 2021, 1:03 PM

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remote shoal yeah it’s this one! https://www.amazon.com/Flydigi-Bluetooth-Controller-Telescop...

lol yeh this is going to be a challenge, im not even sure how to proceed yet

burnt river Mar 18, 2021, 11:16 PM

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can handle the controller merging from the UI now 👍

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thats one of the tricky parts of that implementation

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yeh could auto join if both left and right are connected

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but cant just assume that is desired behavior

wraith ferry Mar 19, 2021, 1:00 AM

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burnt river but cant just assume that is desired behavior

Maybe a toggle? :D

burnt river Mar 19, 2021, 1:02 AM

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yeh i already am working on one of those as well

burnt river Mar 19, 2021, 1:11 AM

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wraith ferry Maybe a toggle? :D

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in this play the switch pro and the ipega controller were playing the parts of joycon L and R

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since i dont have those joycons here yet

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they did finally ship tho

burnt river Mar 19, 2021, 1:46 AM

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but a similar process could come into play for these other devices like that crazy one @remote shoal has

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if we can coax useful output out of it.

wraith ferry Mar 19, 2021, 2:10 AM

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burnt river

wtf I can't play the video haha

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I'm gonna buy a couple of joycon rails

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I wanna attach them to the sides of a case I have lying around, so that I can use my phone as a switch x3

burnt river Mar 19, 2021, 2:17 AM

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haha

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@wraith ferry yeh that seems to frequently be a problem with tvOS screen records here

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damn fake web “apps”

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@wraith ferry tldr: when you choose the left joycon itll have an alert action “create composite joycon controller” or something (afk atm) and thatll only appear if u have a left and right paired

wraith ferry Mar 19, 2021, 2:53 AM

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burnt river <@123416893389275139> tldr: when you choose the left joycon itll have an alert a...

oh that's pretty nice, can't way to try it out :)

ruby flame Mar 19, 2021, 9:49 AM

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@burnt river Do you have time to solve my problem about Controller PG-9156?
Thank you 😊

burnt river Mar 19, 2021, 1:58 PM

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ruby flame <@399403150798225418> Do you have time to solve my problem about Controller PG-9...

remind me was that the ipega issue?

ruby flame Mar 19, 2021, 5:37 PM

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It is recognised by ncontrol and in the emulators but no buttons work.
It doesn't appear in the list either, but there is a bar that says it's recognized

burnt river Mar 19, 2021, 5:40 PM

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@ruby flame but it was an ipega controller right?

ruby flame Mar 19, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Yes

burnt river Mar 19, 2021, 5:42 PM

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its so weird because i added back the files that i took away before when it broke, @ruby flame can u get me the vid and pid of the device?

ruby flame Mar 19, 2021, 5:45 PM

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burnt river Mar 19, 2021, 5:47 PM

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8 and 2? huh that seems weird

ruby flame Mar 19, 2021, 5:48 PM

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It may be the program that is wrong

burnt river Mar 19, 2021, 5:49 PM

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yeh that cant be right, i dont even have any checks for that combo of vid/pid for support

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use the ncontrol app

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if u click on a device it should list vid/pid

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@ruby flame

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if it shows up as 0 / 0 exit and come back

ruby flame Mar 19, 2021, 5:52 PM

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It does not appear in the list

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I only have a orange bar at the top of the screen that tells me it's connected

burnt river Mar 19, 2021, 6:26 PM

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ohhhhh right

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@ruby flame action button -> show filtered devices

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see if that helps

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OR share the controller log with me, theres an option in that menu as well, thats actually likely the best option

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to get to bottom of what is happening

burnt river Mar 19, 2021, 7:00 PM

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because not only will it include vid/pid itll cover behind the scenes what nControl is doing to begin with when it connects that controller

ruby flame Mar 19, 2021, 7:52 PM

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In private message?

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Sorry for doing so long to answer

burnt river Mar 19, 2021, 8:18 PM

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@ruby flame however u want is fine

burnt river Mar 20, 2021, 6:47 PM

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FINALLY got standard mode parsed properly on switch pro controller with joystick calibration data. now once i get my joycons & charging shit (hopefully tomorrow) implementing the rest of this will be fairly simple

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itll still keep around the other controller unfortunately, and their names dont change properly, but i dont THINK that should hurt anything.

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so initial version with the dual joycon as one support might be a little rough around the edges

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as far as UI/UX is concerned

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but it WILL work

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🙂 and thats all the matters

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it only uses the factory calibration right now, ill add in the user one later. been working on this part for much longer than i wanted to or expected to lol.

burnt river Mar 20, 2021, 10:54 PM

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@ruby flame i gave in to the mystery of that controller and bought one lol

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its just way too intriguing in its chicanery

burnt river Mar 22, 2021, 12:35 AM

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got my joycon charging dock today and that weird ipega controller, hopefully the full joycon set comes tomorrow, think charging grip is supposed to be wed. but ill be qble to implement the full controller stack b4 i get the grip. itll just be easier to properly test with it lol

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but i know the left joycon is now working properly as part of a set because all of its button assignments are correct when its oriented vertically

ruby flame Mar 22, 2021, 3:01 PM

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I would like to thank @burnt river for helping me with the ipega pg-9156 controller...
If you have the same problem, here is the "home + X" procedure

wraith ferry Mar 22, 2021, 3:33 PM

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burnt river but i know the left joycon is now working properly as part of a set because all ...

wooo gg, I'm ordering some rails today so I can build a case with rails :)

burnt river Mar 22, 2021, 3:33 PM

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idk what that means

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but cool

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haha

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and in the next version itll list paired BLE and USB devices in the second section as applicable

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once they are connected and paired tho

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i still cant get LE devices to cooperate in my app yet for some odd reason.

wraith ferry Mar 22, 2021, 3:58 PM

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burnt river idk what that means

I wanna build a phone case that has joycon rails :)

burnt river Mar 22, 2021, 4:50 PM

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ah i see

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lol cool

burnt river Mar 22, 2021, 6:18 PM

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oh sweet my charging grip actually gets here today too

wraith ferry Mar 22, 2021, 7:29 PM

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burnt river oh sweet my charging grip actually gets here today too

Ayyy noice

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I literally can't wait for joycon support owo

burnt river Mar 22, 2021, 9:47 PM

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well its a good thing i bought that charging station / dock dealy. turns out the grip that was supposedly a charging grip is just the comfort one lmao

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was wondering why even a used charging grip was only $12

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actually make that $6 the other $6 was for shipping, yep that makes total sense

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i would've been so bummed today haha

wraith ferry Mar 22, 2021, 11:38 PM

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burnt river well its a good thing i bought that charging station / dock dealy. turns out the...

yeah I have one of those grips as well. the black plastic one right?

burnt river Mar 22, 2021, 11:49 PM

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its red but yeh

burnt river Mar 23, 2021, 4:16 AM

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@wraith ferry i fucking got it!!! 😄

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it still needs polish but it essentially works

burnt river Mar 23, 2021, 4:39 AM

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the plus and minus buttons arent working properly atm, the rest is good

burnt river Mar 23, 2021, 4:54 AM

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so rather it still needs ALOT of polish lol

burnt river Mar 23, 2021, 5:27 AM

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it worked really well at first, then got all laggy.

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but it was actually working in a usable state. so thats good news.

supple girder Mar 23, 2021, 8:35 AM

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Hi

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Do I need ncontrol on ios 14?

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Ios 14 natively supports my dualshock4

wraith ferry Mar 23, 2021, 10:14 AM

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burnt river <@!123416893389275139> i fucking got it!!! 😄

holy shiiiiit

wraith ferry Mar 23, 2021, 1:19 PM

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burnt river it worked really well at first, then got all laggy.

Laggy as in delays in Button-to-action lag?

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I mean were they packet level or just processed slowly?

burnt river Mar 23, 2021, 2:30 PM

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its a mutex issue i think

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and my last set of changes was crashlooping the daemon so i decided to pass out lol

wraith ferry Mar 23, 2021, 2:48 PM

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burnt river its a mutex issue i think

oh :o

burnt river Mar 23, 2021, 3:18 PM

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@supple girder no you dont need it for DS4 support post 13

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although the DS4 works pretty terribly lately. whether i pass through support or not. random data drops for literally no reason whatsoever

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and i dont know if its apple being garbage or sony on that one (probably both)

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they are both TERRIBLE at BT

burnt river Mar 23, 2021, 5:06 PM

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@wraith ferry yeh i wouldnt expect this to work any time soon. its an absolute unmitigated disaster right now and ive been spending too much time focusing on it thinking it'd be easy once i got both joycons.

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yes apple PLEASE tear down an entire daemon if u find a duplicate identifier.. and then ship it. BRILLIANT.

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gamecontrollerd[26843] <Notice>: *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInternalInconsistencyException', reason: 'Identifier '60:6B:FF:80:BE:C0' is already registered. Possible duplicate identifier?'

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i really miss when apple was good at things

wraith ferry Mar 23, 2021, 5:21 PM

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burnt river ```gamecontrollerd[26843] <Notice>: *** Terminating app due to uncaught exceptio...

hm, are you setting the same mac for both devices?

burnt river Mar 23, 2021, 5:21 PM

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obviously not

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lol

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this is an issue ive run into with their shoddy code before

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with other controllers

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and i could never trace that particular string to any daemon or framework. it doesnt exist ANYWHERE in gamecontrollerd or one single framework that it links, nor is it in any bluetooth frameworks either so trying to prevent that exception from being thrown isnt happening either.

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this isnt even the main problem with the joycons, its just one of the many problems developing in this part of the system

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the joycon issue is coordinating HID events from two real devices to one virtual one and things just going haywire and crashing in unpredictable ways and leave NO useful log traces of why

wraith ferry Mar 23, 2021, 5:24 PM

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burnt river with other controllers

what's the "usual" fix?

burnt river Mar 23, 2021, 5:24 PM

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there isnt one for this problem

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except apple being good at their jobs again, but that clearly isnt happening

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ill get it workign eventually but i have to punt it for now, just become way too much of a time sink

wraith ferry Mar 23, 2021, 5:25 PM

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can you patch gamecontrollerd to catch the exception?

burnt river Mar 23, 2021, 5:25 PM

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no

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because i cant find it

wraith ferry Mar 23, 2021, 5:25 PM

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hm

burnt river Mar 23, 2021, 5:25 PM

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as i just said

wraith ferry Mar 23, 2021, 5:25 PM

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yeah gotcha

burnt river Mar 23, 2021, 5:26 PM

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that string doesnt exist ANYWHERE in ANYTHING gamecontrollerd links

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or in gamecontrollerd itself

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so tracing it is not happening

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so the usual methods i use to trace functions like that is a non-starter

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but even that exception being caught doesnt help joycons one single bit

wraith ferry Mar 23, 2021, 5:27 PM

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have you tried asking to other tweak devs? maybe someone has an idea :o

burnt river Mar 23, 2021, 5:27 PM

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it just makes development less painful cuz i usually gotta reboot and rejailbreak to get rid of it

wraith ferry Mar 23, 2021, 5:27 PM

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I wish I couild help more but I'm just a normal dev ;-;

I assume you can't gdb/lldb gamecontrollerd, right?

burnt river Mar 23, 2021, 5:27 PM

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theres nothing anyone can help on with this, u are just going to need to be patient. i didnt sink $70 into this joycon shit to NOT get this working eventually. it was just supposed to be easier when they got here.

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again... gamecontrollerd is NOT the problem