#palera1n | r/Jailbreak | Page 117

wraith ferry Mar 7, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Same! I am on iOS 14.3/iPhone 11 so if there's anything that doesn't risk breaking my jailbreak in two I'm up for it :)

burnt river Mar 7, 2021, 6:07 PM

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👍 thanks

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just debugging

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idk yet what im going to try to solve it, that part is up in the air still

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still slowly waking up 🤣

full vessel Mar 7, 2021, 6:08 PM

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You are very welcome! Anything to support. Got Xbox series X controller and elite series 2 available for testing

burnt river Mar 7, 2021, 6:09 PM

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nice 👍 and if there are controllers i dont support yet (i dont remembet about elite series 2, i THINK i added that already but not sure) can work on that too

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when searching for the ps5 data i saw a LOT of xbox learning requests as well so there must ne some model im missing

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and that reminds me theres a HUGE backlog of some 1100 control requests (not all unique of course) that i need to go through.

wraith ferry Mar 7, 2021, 6:12 PM

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So is there any way to pair both as one single mfi pad?

wraith ferry Mar 7, 2021, 6:13 PM

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full vessel You are very welcome! Anything to support. Got Xbox series X controller and elit...

I also have a DS4 and two joycon pairs plus a "pro controller" (8bitdo sf30 pro in switch mode)

burnt river Mar 7, 2021, 6:42 PM

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@wraith ferry i could never get that working, i did eventually have a friend with both joycons try and lend me theirs to piece it together with no luck, nintendo does some weird stuff 😔

wraith ferry Mar 7, 2021, 6:43 PM

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burnt river <@123416893389275139> i could never get that working, i did eventually have a fr...

ughhh that's so sad :c

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what are/were you stuck on?

burnt river Mar 7, 2021, 6:43 PM

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i dont own a switch, only have one uncharged joycon lol, left at the behest of friends with devices on those ones

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well they still pair it as two controllers, syncing those both together to act as one just doesnt fit ncontrols architecture, totally diff paradigm. and the reverse engineering docs about how they handle that were massively confusing

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so i never really got much of anywhere unfortunately

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nintendo overengineers everything

wraith ferry Mar 7, 2021, 6:45 PM

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burnt river well they still pair it as two controllers, syncing those both together to act a...

how does ncontrol work? does it map a single bluetooth device to a single mfi device?

burnt river Mar 7, 2021, 6:46 PM

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yes simply put

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it creates a virtual device that masquerades as a supported mfi device

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then the hid input is translated and dynamically remapped to act like said controller

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so to the device 2 joycons would still appear as two separate controllers

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if i can think of a way to reconcile that and get my hands on working and charged joycons again im willing to try again. just cant promise anything

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and to whoever asked about wiimote support through an adapter, if i can sanely support said adapter theoretically it could work

wraith ferry Mar 7, 2021, 7:26 PM

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burnt river so to the device 2 joycons would still appear as two separate controllers

I am a dev but not an iOS/theos dev but

Can't you just "read if there's already a joycon connected and if so use its interface as mfi device"?

burnt river Mar 7, 2021, 7:34 PM

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@wraith ferry i cant just make the assumption that they have 2 joycons so they want it to work as one, for one, and two id still have to re-write most of the architecture to support 2 controllers being displayed as one and lastly, i STILL dont know how to properly interpret the data, or get it to change (if it needs to) for it to treat the 2 as 1 properly. its a multi tiered problem

wraith ferry Mar 7, 2021, 7:35 PM

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burnt river <@!123416893389275139> i cant just make the assumption that they have 2 joycons ...

Makes sense, I hadn't thought about that. In case you need or want any help I'm always up for a challenge haha (not that I think you'll need any, I don't wanna sound presumptuous 🙈)

burnt river Mar 7, 2021, 7:37 PM

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@wraith ferry there are many things i can debug without having direct access, this kind of thing id need another much more extended session with the joycons than i had with my friend before. appreciate the offer but this one i definitely need direct controller access to try and piece it together

wraith ferry Mar 7, 2021, 7:39 PM

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burnt river <@!123416893389275139> there are many things i can debug without having direct a...

Yeah, I get it :o Wish I could help. I do have some spare joycons around somewhere... xP

burnt river Mar 7, 2021, 8:00 PM

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@wraith ferry if u dont mind sending me the red one then all id need to do is get a charger lol. i have the blue one already. its annoying how expensive they are

wraith ferry Mar 7, 2021, 8:01 PM

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burnt river <@!123416893389275139> if u dont mind sending me the red one then all id need to...

yeah.. it's very annoying, but that's nothing unusual with nintendo stuff

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it's all super expensive :))))

burnt river Mar 7, 2021, 8:01 PM

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so, as i should've expected, it looks like PS5 controller doesnt look any different from the PS4 one, should be able to duplicate / rename some shit and it should /just work/

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true

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okay DS5 /should/ work in the one building now 🙂

burnt river Mar 7, 2021, 8:35 PM

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are you capable of getting a log from your device (either via a mac in the console app when paired wirelessly / connected via USB) or by using libimobiledevice on other platforms? this will be essential to see what kind of things spit out logs isolated via the search term [yourControl] /cc @wraith ferry

wraith ferry Mar 7, 2021, 8:36 PM

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burnt river are you capable of getting a log from your device (either via a mac in the cons...

if you have a set of specific actions that you want me to do please tell, so that I can help more effectively :D

I do have a mac, what should I filter by with Console.app?

burnt river Mar 7, 2021, 8:36 PM

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[yourControl]

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should say sometihng like [yourControl] h4xing system name: X at version: X

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or more likely if its failing

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[yourControl] patch failed! system name: X at version: X

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and if that is the case, ill need to enlist some help from a friend who wrote said patchfinder to see why that may be and what i need to change to make debugging it possible.

burnt river Mar 7, 2021, 8:58 PM

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1.7.7-1&1.7.7-2 out now for iOS & tvOS and it SHOULD support PS5 controllers now. i dont have one to verify it, but no reason it shouldnt work

wraith ferry Mar 7, 2021, 9:07 PM

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burnt river 1.7.7-1&1.7.7-2 out now for iOS & tvOS and it SHOULD support PS5 controllers now...

gonna try it asap

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it... connects for a second but then disconnects like .5 seconds after connecting

burnt river Mar 7, 2021, 9:31 PM

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@wraith ferry the log is the most important part, i know the behavior

wraith ferry Mar 7, 2021, 9:38 PM

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burnt river <@123416893389275139> the log is the most important part, i know the behavior

sure, gonna check it

wraith ferry Mar 7, 2021, 11:03 PM

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burnt river [yourControl]

that doesn't show anything o.o

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where are you from btw? @burnt river

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like, what's your TZ?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:13 AM

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@wraith ferry i live in arizona in the US, my time zone is complicated

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lol

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mountain time zone i guess is one way u can refer to it

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@full vessel @wraith ferry either of you want to test a potential fix? i think the problem has been figured out and potentially fixed

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welp anyone who wants to try it can now: 1.7.8-5 out for iOS only, tvOS didnt need an update because it didnt have this issue

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enjoy, im eager to hear if it fixes the problem for anyone/everyone...

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:26 AM

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burnt river <@!666592161982054400> <@!123416893389275139> either of you want to test a poten...

I'm gonna try it as soon as I get out of the bathroom xD

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:26 AM

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👍 please let me know if it works

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:26 AM

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burnt river welp anyone who wants to try it can now: 1.7.8-5 out for iOS only, tvOS didnt ne...

Btw have you read the message about console.app?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:27 AM

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oh yeh i know why its not showing up in teh console app, thats my fault

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all my stuff is apparently still redirecting to syslog

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and u have to force enable that, i dont remember if there is an iOS specific package for it. but if there isnt i should make one including the force loading bit. its actually quite nice to log there now because practically NOTHING still does

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but if there is indeed a syslog package on iOS all you need to do to make it work is launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.syslogd.plist

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'-w' is the special part, that forces even disabled daemons to load

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but i decided to release untested because it still works for everything it did before, the new patching method is only tried as a fallback if the first one fails. so i felt pretty confident EVERYONE should be covered now

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after someone verifies this works im going to take a break, but im still going to try and continue to address any issues that have been reported recently in here and also try to get to some of the controller learning support backlog

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i know it took a while, but i did promise i was going to get active with this again as soon as i could 🙂

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:39 AM

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burnt river i know it took a while, but i did promise i was going to get active with this ag...

Y'know I sent a refund request then after seeing how active you became actually decided to keep the tweak, you deserve the money for being such a nice person and a dedicated dev ^^

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:40 AM

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my dedication whaned for a long time because of work and life stuff

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but i had every intention on getting it back up to speed as soon as i could

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:40 AM

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it's okay man, I completely get it

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:40 AM

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appreciate it

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eager to hear if it works for u now

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:41 AM

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burnt river eager to hear if it works for u now

seems like the controller still turns off 1s after connecting

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:41 AM

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damnit

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:41 AM

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(dualsense)

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:41 AM

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that really should've fixed it 😦

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:42 AM

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burnt river that really should've fixed it 😦

can I use libimobiledevice to get the logs? don't wanna get my macbook out

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I'll ssh into the phone, enable the daemon and then check the logs

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:42 AM

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so actually u just need syslog installed and to run that command i said earlier and then syslog -w would get you the appropriate log

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looks like there isnt a package for it, if u are comfortable installing the binary manually yourself u can do that

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📎 syslog

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:44 AM

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burnt river looks like there isnt a package for it, if u are comfortable installing the bina...

can I just run the binary from /var?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:44 AM

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no

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:44 AM

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(do I need to chmod it or run it with su?)

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:44 AM

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put it in /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin/ or something

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:45 AM

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okie dokie

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:45 AM

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no sudo necessary may or may not need to chmod it first

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launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.syslogd.plist

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and once u install it and make sure its executable syslog -w

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should tail the log

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:45 AM

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burnt river ```launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.syslogd.plist```

operation not permitted

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su -c ?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:45 AM

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oh yeh that one does need root permissions

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i guess installing it does as well if you dont choose /usr/local/

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:46 AM

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ok, with su - it worked

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:46 AM

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or may even still need it in that case, im always sshed in as root to my devices

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:46 AM

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gonna install the binary

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:46 AM

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idevices that is

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u do realize i mean install it on the phone right

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:46 AM

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burnt river u do realize i mean install it on the phone right

yup

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:46 AM

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just to be certain

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okay good

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i figured u knew that

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:47 AM

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gonna copy it into /usr/local/bin, check if it is u+x then run it

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:47 AM

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burnt river i figured u knew that

happy_red

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:48 AM

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and u probably need to restart bluetoothd to see the appropriate logs spit out

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:48 AM

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burnt river and u probably need to restart bluetoothd to see the appropriate logs spit out

sure, isn't there a button in ncontrol for that?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:48 AM

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if u have killall installed killall -9 bluetoothd will do it

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i think there should be

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good point

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i knew i did that for a reason

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:49 AM

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burnt river i knew i did that for a reason

lmao :D

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:49 AM

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yep restart bluetooth services should almost certainly be killing bluetoothd, id have to double check but that sounds like what id have it do

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yep BTServer or bluetoothd as appropriate are restarted with that option

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i work on alot of stuff this all just blends together at some point lol

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either way @wraith ferry when u get that working look for logs related to bluetoothd with the string [yourControl] in em

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ie

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Mar  7 17:54:10 iPad bluetoothd[4768] <Warning>: [yourControl] new l33t h4xing system name: iOS at version: 14.0.1```

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:57 AM

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idk why but I can't see my 2.4GHz networks anymore

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lol

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:57 AM

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lol #itsProbablyFine

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 12:57 AM

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hmmm

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syslog -w is also empty

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wait

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it's probably because I'm not root

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 12:58 AM

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maybe?

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its quite possible

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and itll likely be empty until u restart bluetoothd again

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:02 AM

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burnt river and itll likely be empty until u restart bluetoothd again

killall'd it but no dice

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:03 AM

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bluetoothd? really? thats baffling

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what jailbreak are you using out of curiousity

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@wraith ferry

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:04 AM

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burnt river what jailbreak are you using out of curiousity

u0v6.1.1 I think

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:04 AM

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okay

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:04 AM

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or 6.1

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:04 AM

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maybe ill have to try that on one of my iOS devices, i dont /think/ it should make any difference

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and what iOS version are you on?

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:04 AM

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burnt river and what iOS version are you on?

14.3

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:05 AM

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okay thanks. grasping at straws right now. this makes literally zero sense.

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:05 AM

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burnt river okay thanks. grasping at straws right now. this makes literally zero sense.

maybe I did something wrong?

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sysctl works

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(btw, can I keep the daemon on or will it drain the battery?)

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:06 AM

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nah the instructions were very simple, and if u tried as root and still nothing then its almost like the tweaks arent even getting loaded into bluetoothd

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which daemon?

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:07 AM

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burnt river which daemon?

launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.syslogd.plist

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:07 AM

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oh yeh thats fine

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very little goes in that direction anymore anyways. impact should be very minimal

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:07 AM

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burnt river very little goes in that direction anymore anyways. impact should be very minima...

okie

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this is the syslog:

Martes-iPhone:~ root# syslog -w
Mar  8 01:50:16 Martes-iPhone syslogd[3873] <Notice>: ASL Sender Statistics
Mar  8 01:51:11 Martes-iPhone WidgetSmith[3885] <Warning>: Hit loading Liberty Lite into com.crossforward.WidgetSmith - (C) Ryley Angus, 2016-19. No warranty provided.
Mar  8 01:51:41 Martes-iPhone TwitterNotificationServiceExtension[3886] <Warning>: Hit loading Liberty Lite into com.atebits.Tweetie2.NotificationServiceExtension - (C) Ryley Angus, 2016-19. No warranty provided.
Mar  8 01:52:12 Martes-iPhone VyprVPN[3892] <Warning>: Hit loading Liberty Lite into com.goldenfrog.vyprvpn.mobile - (C) Ryley Angus, 2016-19. No warranty provided.
Mar  8 01:54:59 Martes-iPhone WeatherWidget[3992] <Warning>: Hit loading Liberty Lite into com.apple.weather.widget - (C) Ryley Angus, 2016-19. No warranty provided.
Mar  8 01:55:08 Martes-iPhone sshd: mobile@tt[3998] <Notice>: USER_PROCESS: 3998 ttys001
Mar  8 01:57:28 Martes-iPhone sshd: mobile@tt[4020] <Notice>: USER_PROCESS: 4020 ttys002
Mar  8 02:00:49 Martes-iPhone sshd: mobile@tt[3994] <Notice>: DEAD_PROCESS: 3998 ttys001
Mar  8 02:00:49 Martes-iPhone syslogd[3873] <Notice>: ASL Sender Statistics
Mar  8 02:02:09 Martes-iPhone NotificationServiceExtension[4049] <Warning>: Hit loading Liberty Lite into com.google.ios.youtube.NotificationServiceExtension - (C) Ryley Angus, 2016-19. No warranty provided.

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:08 AM

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i mean even just killing bluetoothd should trigger SOMETHING to show up in that log

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although maybe not with substitute which is what i think they are using now. but at very least MY logs should appear in there

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you can check your console log if u have a mac to be certain no [yourControl] logs show up in there

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but im fairly confident they wont

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:10 AM

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burnt river you can check your console log if u have a mac to be certain no [yourControl] lo...

I tried before :o should it be any different now?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:10 AM

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ill have to do more experimenting with different jailbreaks and setups. just really wish i had direct access to ONE problematic device. but they are all too expensive to buy JUST to fix this problem 😦 lol

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@wraith ferry u did try before thats right, no it wont be any different now

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:10 AM

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burnt river ill have to do more experimenting with different jailbreaks and setups. just rea...

yeah makes sense haha

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:10 AM

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yep im out of ideas

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ugh

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:11 AM

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if you have any idea please do tell, wanna try to help :D

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:12 AM

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i will. but i think im at the point where i need to step away from it for the moment because its just making me mad and i have no further ideas of what to test until i do more research on my own over here using stuff other than checkra1n.

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:12 AM

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burnt river i will. but i think im at the point where i need to step away from it for the mo...

I feel ya, happens to me as well haha

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:13 AM

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theres no reason it should matter, but i have to rule everything out before i can rule anything in

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lol

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:13 AM

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I wish I knew more about tweak dev, but I haven't really made any tweak, certainly nothing as low level as nControl

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does bluetoothd show up on your checkra1n'd device?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:14 AM

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yes it has to run for bluetooth to work

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is bluetoothd not running for you at all?

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because if that is the case then they COULD be handling it in a different daemon again

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:14 AM

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@burnt river are you the dev?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:14 AM

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yes

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:15 AM

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Could you please help me?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:15 AM

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i can try to

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:15 AM

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I’m trying to connect a pro controller to my iPad 6 and it disconnects after 1 second

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:15 AM

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im having a feeling its the exac problem im debugging. lol yep.

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:15 AM

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I installed the latest version of ncontrol but the issue persists

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:16 AM

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wait @burnt river do I have to edit the plist as per pinned message?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:16 AM

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yeh i was mistaken that it was going to be the fix. im still trying to get to the bottom of the problem but have currently run out of ideas on what to test.

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:16 AM

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intjsad

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:16 AM

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oh thats fascinating. i dont need to do that with any of my devices but apparently that might be a thing

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huh

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if that is indeed something that needs to be done im sure i could automate the process somehow as part of nControl. but i need to find out more about it.

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:19 AM

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gonna try it later

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:19 AM

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what in the world....

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i mean its worth a shot, i had always assumed it was a patchfinder issue

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:19 AM

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lmao thats so old

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I tried the plist thing and it didn’t work at all

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Same thing happens

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no its cuz apple specifically and intentionally blacklists pro controllers

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Wtf why

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cuz apple

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:20 AM

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i thought the same thing but that must only happen on newer devices

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bluetoothd has new checks in 13+ that i try to hook and return the expected values to bypass, i had assumed some new mitigation BS in a newer version was preventing it from working

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:21 AM

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nope, it just checks the ids and if it matches, it blocks it

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:21 AM

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took a look at a bluetoothd bin from one of said devices today, saw the necessary reference i use to find the function patch in fact was missing from this bin (but not from mine on an older device but same *OS version) and tried patching based on a different string to find that did indeed exist.

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:21 AM

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or at least thats what i assume. otherwise why would my fix work

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:21 AM

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since that still doesnt work

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i dont know why your fixed wouldve worked unless the bluetooth daemon changed again on newer devices

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:22 AM

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silent anchor or at least thats what i assume. otherwise why would my fix work

Your fix doesn’t work for me

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Idk why

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they may have changed something, this was back in october

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:22 AM

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0 getting through might have been a fluke, its not a blacklist

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its a whitelist

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if you are MFI OR if you match a certain pid/vid

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i know this cuz i have exhaustively reversed bluetoothd in that area

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:23 AM

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then find a device that does work, and give me the ids for that and ill update my post

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:23 AM

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just use DS4 ones

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one sec

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:23 AM

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some generic keyboard is what i used for the one

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IT WORKED

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what happened to not working XD

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:24 AM

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vid=1356 pid=1476

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:24 AM

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@silent anchor I tried your fix with the latest ncontrol and it worked

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:24 AM

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wtf

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:24 AM

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It wasn’t working with the older version

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:24 AM

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so there IS something new

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and my new patch IS working

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:25 AM

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teamwork woo

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:25 AM

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well hook not patch

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:25 AM

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burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:25 AM

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now i need to figure out why the hell that does anything different

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they must have something that is only running on newer devices that has to do with that profile u are editing

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:25 AM

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all my thing is doing is spoofing a generic keyboard

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:26 AM

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ahhhh

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like how other game controllers snuck through without MFI forever

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:26 AM

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it makes the bluetooth driver think its a generic keyboard that i had laying around

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:26 AM

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by acting like keyboards

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clever

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and i can definitely automate what you are doing at SOME level in one of the many pieces that has become nControl at this point

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it used to be so simple before apple meddled in 13

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:27 AM

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the fact that my fix works at all is like

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:27 AM

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baby town frolics

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:27 AM

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idk im proud but also disapointed

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like why

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:27 AM

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i know the feel... alot.

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:27 AM

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that shouldnt work

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:27 AM

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feeling*

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u should hear how i got youtube to continue working on older devices when they deprecated 2.0

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but thats google and not apple

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but probably for similar legacy reasons

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:28 AM

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ya but pro controllers worked on ios 12

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:28 AM

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i should actually see if that stuff still works

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because they didnt meddle until 13

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:28 AM

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and then ios 13 they blacklisted it or whitelisted it idk

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:29 AM

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they didnt specifically blacklist it

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:29 AM

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So @burnt river are you going to try spoofing them?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:29 AM

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the whitelisted the DS4 and Xbox One and THEN closed the door on EVERYTHING else

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because NONE of my other controllers worked in 13 initially

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:29 AM

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but if they didnt blacklist it, why do you also need to set other random values to 0, instead of just the product id

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:29 AM

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why 0 works is a mystery tbh

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:29 AM

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unless that was an oversight

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actually that makes sense

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:30 AM

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what this other layer of protection is, im not sure, im aware of that file u are referencing cuz i used to try and fuck w/ it to get Ps4 controllers to stop being shitty BEFORE 13 happened

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:30 AM

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but like... they didnt seem like significant values. although tbh i did kinda just set anything that looked important to 0 or a spoofed value, so its possible im overdoing it

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:30 AM

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so actually..

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0 is when it hasnt been resolved yet

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:31 AM

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so why does that work

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:31 AM

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it makes perfect sense

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it needs to get through until that value CAN be resolved

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and once it is

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THEN it can say "no soup"

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:31 AM

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omg lmao did i put it in limbo

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Hmm it’s not working in Minecraft

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and just force it to stay there

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Lemme try some other game

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:31 AM

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it seems that way @silent anchor

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:31 AM

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thats hilarious

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:32 AM

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its genius in its simplicity

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:32 AM

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probably the only reason it worked

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:32 AM

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and its discovery

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indeed

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sometimes just throw values at it

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thats all fuzzing is

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:32 AM

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It works in super hexagon

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Idk why it doesn’t work in Minecraft

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"why would anything not be resolved past the initial startup, we dont need a check for this"

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thats a minecraft thing

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not a ncontrol thing

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if the app doesnt have controller support it wont work

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:32 AM

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yeh i can probably hack it in, give me a couple of days

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i used to do taht alot

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:33 AM

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It has settings for controllers

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then idk why it doent work on minecraft

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:33 AM

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PUBG was my masterpiece until they started banning ppl

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well my masterpiece plus an anon assembly god who wanted to remain anon

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:33 AM

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minecraft mobile is meh. literally playing modded minecraft right now lol

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I don’t have a laptop

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screw assembly omg

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Just a desktop and an iPad

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I try to use the iPad as a laptop lol

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:34 AM

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i actually never got in to minecraft, it got big when i first joined cdev aeons ago with a bunch of my friends and they could never help me with shit i needed cuz they were playing minecraft, back when notch still owned it

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:34 AM

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i have a desktop but both my monitors broke so im just on my laptop

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:34 AM

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...god im old

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:34 AM

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XD im 25 and i feel old sometimes

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but its 2021, i guess thats kinda normal

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:35 AM

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i was even a curmodgeon when i was young tho apparently cuz i got grumpy at them for platying minecraft

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i just turned 40 so i really am old lol

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:35 AM

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try modded, its fun

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It’s not working with sonic cd

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😫

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just stay away from computercraft lol if youre anything like me, its torture. i program in my normal life, i dont need to program in lua in minecraft lol

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:36 AM

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im sure it is, for the active / main author of nControl i play startingly little games. (i dont want to not give qwerty credit, he got the most important parts working... as usual lol)

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:36 AM

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So any idea? :D

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:36 AM

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Not working with Downwell either

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Let’s try SotN

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:36 AM

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@wraith ferry well it sounds like my latest version + @silent anchor fix are the solution for newer devices

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:36 AM

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so.. did you just not check this channel in 5 months? like thats been pinned for ages lol

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:36 AM

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why i have no freaking idea

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:36 AM

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Btw, I'm 21 and I've been playing MC since the alpha

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:37 AM

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@silent anchor pretty much

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:37 AM

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lmao

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:37 AM

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life has been crazy and complicated for a while

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:37 AM

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fair

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Not working with SotN either

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:37 AM

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im kind of getting my bearings back

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:37 AM

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i literally forgot that this was a thing

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"who pinged me, and why... oh ya i remember that"

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:38 AM

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hahahaha indeed

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:38 AM

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also woo i can point to this whenever people say girls can program or dont know tech

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cant

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:38 AM

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im just happy to be in a state where i can get back to this. ive been buried in one difficult work task after another that have mentally drained me for well i guess like 5 months now lol

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:38 AM

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So apparently it’s not working with mfi capable games but works with older games

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is pro controller mfi?

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:39 AM

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silent anchor also woo i can point to this whenever people say girls can program or dont know ...

That's something sexist :D

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Anyone can code :)

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:39 AM

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@silent anchor it is not

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:39 AM

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nito back me up lol how many girls do you know who are programmers

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:39 AM

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silent anchor is pro controller mfi?

No but nControl in theory makes it compatible with mfi games

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:39 AM

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@silent anchor not a ton but i do know some brilliant ones

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:40 AM

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cuz ya they exist but theyre rare

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i had one other girl in my classes in college, and like... idk class of 30 i think?

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maybe 40

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:40 AM

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but yeh its been a boys club for most of the time its been around, but i dont think theres any malevolent intention to that, certainly not nowadays especially

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yeh i didnt even go into comp sci i was a design major initially

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:41 AM

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ya it just a thing. sometimes stereotypes have roots in truth lol

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:41 AM

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a friend already past college was like "yeh my life is office space"

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i was like.. i love that movie, but FUCK THAT

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stereotypes do exist for a reason

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theres usually at least a kernel of truth

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puns are fun

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:41 AM

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lol the only job i got after college so far was a web development place so like

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almost as bad as office job

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:42 AM

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silent anchor nito back me up lol how many girls do you know who are programmers

I know many, esp in the JB scene :)

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:44 AM

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hecking nerds

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Pro controller working with delta emulator

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At least

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burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:47 AM

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okay so another theory im working with - is stronger checks via the cache about controllers that are already "not acceptable"

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but if u change its vid / pid it wont match the vid & pid of what paired so that could make a improper check bail

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:48 AM

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dumb problem, dumb solution.

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:48 AM

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hahaha

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im not certain of anything yet, just bouncing around theories

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:48 AM

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also keep in mind you have to restart bluetooth service after modifying stuff

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:48 AM

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but im ecstatic that SOMETHING is working

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:48 AM

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so actually idk about that not resolved theory

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:49 AM

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im not sure about any of the theories yet

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i was away from bluetooth..ish. for a bit. i guess HomeKit stuff involves bluetooth as well but iwas buried in the mDNS and UDP pairing crap

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ughhhhh i dont look forward to getting back to that issue after i punted it.. again. lol

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my favorite story about nControl was first researching it when we talked about the idea post defcon a few years ago (me qwerty and jon seals) i gave qwerty my laptop to lookin into something related to bluetooth to start moving on the idea and he found and juicy vuln in bluetooth in like 10 minutes

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that guy... i tell ya

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:51 AM

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some people are born with a knack for certain things

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some people just stumble onto things XD like me

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:52 AM

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that + tenacity & good timing

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:52 AM

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true

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also different perspective on half done things

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:52 AM

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he was in the awkwardtv.org rooms when i was hacking the first gen when he was like 13 or some shit just observing

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:52 AM

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that usually gets a lot done

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:52 AM

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i had no idea about that either until he told me a couple years ago

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too funny

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which is part of why i keep the awkwardtv.org wiki alive from those days. should probably do some kind of merge with the iphonewiki at some point. or at least cross posting or somethin

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so much planned so little time lol

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(part of why is the nostaliga) okay i think its time to go get a drink, especially now that i know that my solution does actually help combined with @silent anchor tweak in the pinned message. look forward to investigating if the issue is indeed cache related OR if its still something that only lives on newer devices for whatever odd reason (just seams unfeasible, but who knows?)

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:56 AM

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drinking is good for programming lol

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:56 AM

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teamwork makes the dream work

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drinking is good for a lot of things 🙂 haha

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:56 AM

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cuz you try things you normally think are too stupid to try sober

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and they work

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:56 AM

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in fact im going to chase this white russian i just drank with some mead and a shot of tequila, THEN go start the night

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:57 AM

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making mywant to grab some distillate lol

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 1:57 AM

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yep im a functional alcoholic

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i need to get some new cartridges now that its recreatational here now but all the dispensaries always have lines out the door all day when i go check and im not tryin to wait in line forever lol

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 1:58 AM

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its been legal here for a while

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good ol canada

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Sotn detects I’m using a controller but no buttons work

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 1:59 AM

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I tried the fix with the dualsense but it didn't work

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:01 AM

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is dual sense the new ps5 controller?

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 2:01 AM

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yep

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:02 AM

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its probably the exact same issue

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and whether or not its the fact that its cache and theres a new check to say "hey is this cached and blacklisted already, dont check it again" OR that file is actually the source of truth in general and setting it to 0 invalidated a bad check im not really sure

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but im assuming doing the same thing it if fixed one controller (but for the entry for your ps5 controller instead) would get it through OR

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try deleting that cache file altogether

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and maybe once it hasnt been blacklisted it will always "just work" after that

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because of the fix in the patchfinder

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lots of theoretical stuff at this point

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 2:05 AM

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burnt river try deleting that cache file altogether

Which one?

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The plist file?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:06 AM

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which one what? i said a lot of stuff lol

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oh yes that

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 2:06 AM

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burnt river try deleting that cache file altogether

^

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:06 AM

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and u dont have to delete it altogether u can just move it or whatever

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that would actually probably be the best idea just move it to a different folder on device maybe give the services a restart etc

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 2:07 AM

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burnt river that would actually probably be the best idea just move it to a different folder...

Already tried killing bluetoothd

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:07 AM

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after moving the plist file out of place?

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does it connect and then immediately disconnect?

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OR it connects but just doesnt work? theres sooo many different variations of what could go wrong specificity is super important 🙂

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 2:08 AM

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burnt river after moving the plist file out of place?

No no, after editing it haha

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:08 AM

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and the controller still doesnt work? and if it doesnt work, in what way does it not work

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cuz i analyzed the raw data i got back and it was identical to that sent by a DS4 so i just made a few name / file changes and popped that in. if it connects but doesnt work theres a log you can check specifically for the nControl daemon

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:11 AM

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@burnt river do you know why mfi games recognize the controller but the buttons don’t work?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:11 AM

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/Library/Logs/controllersupport-Error.log

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:11 AM

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Maybe it’s related to the same issue?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:12 AM

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@silent anchor if they recognize the controller it /should/ work. because the issue at hand is the controller connect and then immediately disconnect

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:12 AM

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one problem at a time lol

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first, getting them to connect

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then, making them work for games

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:13 AM

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but if nControl creates its virtual controller for the device then it should definitely work at that point.

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and if it doesnt that means the developer didnt properly add MFI support

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cuz that DOES happen

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the only reason we could get PUBG working so well is they implemented ONE joystick and nothing else

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and the joystick they implemented was the one for panning your view in all directions. try implementing that via fake touches. no thanks. (i did it, it sucked and never worked well lol)

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:15 AM

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why doesnt apple have a controller api

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they have apis for everything else

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:16 AM

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they do

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this is adding MFI controller support to games that dont have it

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or dont fully have it

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@silent anchor

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:17 AM

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ah

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:17 AM

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for instance pubg had JUST the one joystick supported, i had to hack in the rest

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https://github.com/lechium/PUBC/blob/master/pubg/PUBGControllerManager.m#L643-L662

GitHub

lechium/PUBC

pubg the way it's supposed to be. Contribute to lechium/PUBC development by creating an account on GitHub.

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:17 AM

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i just like playing cod mobile with pro controller lol

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@burnt river the games I tested work with a DualShock 4 without nControl

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cuz everyone sucks and i get liek 30+ killstreaks with a controller

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But with the pro controller it just detects it but doesn’t register any inputs

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:18 AM

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@silent anchor DS4 works in 13+

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because apple added it natively

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:18 AM

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Yup

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:18 AM

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same with Xbox One controllers

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so thatll work regardless

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but when they added that support they sandbagged EVERYTHING else

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Rip

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:19 AM

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before that it was the wild west ANYTHING could pair, it just wouldnt work

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and now post 13 they police the hell out of it

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Man I wonder if the Apple engineers get fed up with the marketing teams with all this anti consumer shit

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:19 AM

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which is why nControl USED to work without any tweaking of daemons and shit

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Their hardware is good but is intentionally crippled for higher profit margins

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:20 AM

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i think theres a lot of different angles about it, its like taking away USB on the appletv 4k, i think there is a lot of pressure from various partners in media about keeping people from copying and pirating shit

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im not defending it, dont get me wrong

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:20 AM

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I know

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:20 AM

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its annoying as hell

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:21 AM

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It’s always about the $$$

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its apple, its always been about the money

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:21 AM

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it makes my life much more difficult, cuz JUST as i was about to launch nControl they announced the ps4 and xbox one thing

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:21 AM

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well ok not always

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jobs was good

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:21 AM

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much better than bean counter cook

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fuckin hate that guy

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:21 AM

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Jobs was a sociopath but at least he cared about the products

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Cook took away features to sell external solutions

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tim cook i think now, its all money. luckily the money is starting to show that stiffing customers isnt good so

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:22 AM

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i mean he was an accountant before this, that and supply side

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he should've been a stop gap at best

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:22 AM

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That explains a lot

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literally the only reason EA is doing good stuff now is cuz the money shows that they need to change stuff

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:22 AM

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and i think that was teh initially intention

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of course an accountant is going to be a good CEO on paper

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they will make the company money and brutally cut expenses, thats what i would do if that was my job, but im not an accountant. fuck that lol

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no offense to the profession, it is very necessary

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haha

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oh and nickel dime us with dongles

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:24 AM

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Exactly

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:24 AM

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thats his signature move right there

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:24 AM

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External solutions

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Now the fucking charger

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at least theyre starting to switch to usbc

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Isn’t included anymore

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:24 AM

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thats why this laptop is my last mac one ever

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:24 AM

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screw macs

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ii like iphones. thats it

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:24 AM

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its just the end of an erea for me

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my first computer was an apple lle

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:24 AM

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The lightning port on a $1000 phone still baffles me

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:25 AM

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pre mac

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:25 AM

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Just to get money from licensed cables

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:25 AM

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i have mixed feelings about lightning, being a luddite i hated them changing to a new port, BUT the 32 pin def had to go, usb sucks, and if its usb-c vs lightning im painfully chosing lightning but i despise them both

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thats a REALLY tough one for me

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im still bitter about the headphone jack... so im all over the map there

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:26 AM

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i like usbc

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and usbc is a standard. lightning isnt

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i dont mind losing the headphone jack

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i have airpod pros so

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:26 AM

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and they are both reversable, but usb-c is flimsy as fuck

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:26 AM

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sorry. airpods pro

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frigging so dumb

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:27 AM

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and im just bitter about the macbook "pro" having all usb c and NOTHING else now

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:27 AM

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I only sold my pros because they wouldn’t stay in my ear

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:27 AM

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pro just doesnt mean anything anymore

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because of companies like apple watering it down

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:27 AM

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I like the new m1 MacBooks tho

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Shame about the soldered ram and ssd

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:27 AM

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eh i dont like the direction of macOS at all anymore

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and yeh the 'everything soldered' bullshit has gotten old

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it was old before it got old

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:28 AM

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They’re trying to lock it down even further that’s true

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They’re trying to converge it into iOS

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:28 AM

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u have to jailbreak your mac to run nControl on it

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im not kidding

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:28 AM

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Wtf

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Jailbreak a Mac?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:28 AM

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the macOS version (which anyone who has bought it is entitlted to) needs a jailbreak to work

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yes

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that is actually a thing

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:28 AM

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well ya its an apple product

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they lock it down so much

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Can’t you just disable the gatekeeper

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:29 AM

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but its the home product

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no u need to completely eviscerate all levels of security basically

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:29 AM

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Wtf

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:29 AM

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its kind of insane

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:29 AM

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why do you think i hate macs

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:29 AM

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sec its on its wiki

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lol

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:29 AM

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im even starting to think about moving to linux

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Can’t I just pair my switch pro controller on a Mac?

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Like on Windows?

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lmao apple playing nice with nintendo? ya right

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:30 AM

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https://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/NControl#Using_on_macOS

NControl

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they dont even play nice enough with sony for the ps5 to work right out of the box

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well play nice enough / hire good enough developers to future proof it properly

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Holy shit

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:30 AM

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fuckin amateurs

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haha

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oh yeh i can update my wiki again now too, i need to start doing that

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ugh i need a clone

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:32 AM

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thonk

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yes because youtube videos are so accurate

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and never scams

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From the video it looks like the same process as on windows

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Unless I’m missing something

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:33 AM

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so this is the thing, there is likely other ways to get them working

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but for how nControl specifically works

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it requires these steps

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because u cant run a daemon anymore as far as i can tell, and it needs special entitlements that they dont give out to us, which is why additional amfi and codesigning checks needs to be disabled

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Oh I get it now

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You’re trying to hijack the mfi thingie

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:34 AM

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its just by virtue of how low level its working, and how stringent apple has gotten about locking those services down with entitlements

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well we communicate with it at the IOKit level

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its not really hijacking insomuch as masquerading

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and it worked just fine until they pulled the clamp down in 13

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and made bluetoothd shutdown ANYTHING that wasnt MFI Xbox or PS4

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which is why it APPEARED specific controllers were targeted

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i had the same thought too when i first heard about it and started messing with it

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Screen_Shot_2021-03-07_at_7.38.37_PM.png

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:40 AM

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oh yay assembly

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.-.

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:41 AM

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00000001005bc0f2 db "Bypassing Game controller security on Mac and connecting", 0 ; DATA XREF=sub_1002e216c+92

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lol

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fun things are fun

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:41 AM

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and assembly isnt XD

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:41 AM

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okay now for those drinks i mentioned earlier

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oh i suck ass at assembly, u can be a very proficient reverse engineer without ever being good at it

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dont despair lofl

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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i took some distillate

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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👍

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haha

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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and immediately lost it

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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lol

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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pretty sure it got stuck to my teeth or something

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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its always the last place you look

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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i mean as long as i feel it i dont care lol

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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true story

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enjoy

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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its just really small drop of it so like its hard sometimes

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:43 AM

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makes sense- some of the biggest things come in small drops

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like 10 hits of acid or something

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:43 AM

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its like 95% thc so i mean

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:43 AM

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haha

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tomato patato

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if anyone would further like to research the cache hypothesis that'd be amazing, but if not ill get to it later this next week

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:44 AM

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who you calling a potato lol

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cuz youre right

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:44 AM

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lulz

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i as doing no such thing

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was

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my favorite thing to do when comparing two things (regardless of similarity)

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is to say "tomato patato"

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:45 AM

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i mean it took you 5 months to even see my fix XD and i forgot about this entire server. so im not in any hurry

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:45 AM

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cuz people always get really confused when they think about it

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:45 AM

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hence why i dont think about it 😛

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:45 AM

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good plan

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:45 AM

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KL1Smug

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:46 AM

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but yes i need to discard caring about whether or not i showered today (i know i did yesterday, maybe twice) and go out for that drink i mentioned hours ago. really intrigued about this mobilebluetooth file coming back into play

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i dont mind sharing this ```+ (void)repairMobileBluetoothDictionary {
NSString *thatLoc = [self mobileBluetoothDevicesLocation];
//NSLog(@"######### thefile :%@", thatLoc);
//NSError *error = nil;
NSMutableDictionary *dict = [NSMutableDictionary dictionaryWithContentsOfFile:thatLoc];
//NSLog(@"######### og fileContents :%@", dict);

NSMutableArray *markedForDeath = [NSMutableArray new]; //keep track cuz we can mutate the dictionary while we enumerate it
[dict enumerateKeysAndObjectsUsingBlock:^(id  _Nonnull key, NSDictionary *  _Nonnull obj, BOOL * _Nonnull stop) {
    
    if (obj.allKeys.count == 0) {
        
        NSLog(@"######### bunk entry! cleaning out: %@", key);
        [markedForDeath addObject:key];
    }
    
    
}];

[markedForDeath enumerateObjectsUsingBlock:^(id  _Nonnull obj, NSUInteger idx, BOOL * _Nonnull stop) {
    
    [dict removeObjectForKey:obj];
    
}];

if (markedForDeath.count > 0) {
    //NSLog(@"######### new fileContents :%@", dict);
    
    NSString *backupFile = [thatLoc stringByAppendingPathExtension:@"og"];
    //NSLog(@"######### backing up %@ to %@", thatLoc, backupFile );
    
    NSFileManager *man = [NSFileManager defaultManager];
    if ([man fileExistsAtPath:backupFile]) {
        [man removeItemAtPath:backupFile error:nil];
    }
    if ([man moveItemAtPath:thatLoc toPath:backupFile error:nil]){
        
        //NSLog(@"######### backing up %@ to %@ success", thatLoc, backupFile );
        [dict writeToFile:thatLoc atomically:TRUE];

    }

}

}``` please excuse the egregious spacing lol

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but that file is an old nemesis

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tldr

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:48 AM

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even the best things have horrible spacing

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im a new line kinda gal

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which is funny since javascript is my language of choice

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and thats like designed for same line

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:48 AM

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oh i left out how that file is found lol

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    return [[self returnForProcess:@"/usr/bin/find /private/var/containers/Shared/SystemGroup -type f -iname *MobileBluetooth.devices.plist"] componentsJoinedByString:@"\n"];
}```

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lol

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:49 AM

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ok thats not great lol

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:49 AM

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good times

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im not proud of all the code of written, dont hate

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😛

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if it gets the job done

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:49 AM

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i have a bot that basically runs a tf2 community

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and like i started it yeeears ago

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:50 AM

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lol nice

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:50 AM

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its running node, but like it predates es6, so some of it is written really good, and others are just like...

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it wasnt meant to run the whole community lol it was originally written as a report bot. just a simple thing that messages people

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:50 AM

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its funny i have code i wrote YEARS ago that i find awesome and stuff i find from weeks ago that fills me with dread

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:50 AM

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but then i added report tracking, then i added handling of reports, and then i added admin management

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and some of it is so garbage

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:51 AM

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automation is the goat

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:51 AM

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i love automation

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:51 AM

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yeh but if it works, it works.

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until it doesnt

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just dont take down entire departments while experimenting

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:51 AM

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i literally have it just autorestarting when it crashes

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:51 AM

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i did that once by accident at my last job

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as things should

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:51 AM

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cuz i cant be fucked to fix whatever crashes it every few days

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 2:52 AM

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anyhow, drinks. take care. thanks for your crazy weird fix pinned from ages ago. ill have to pull this thread later this week.

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 2:52 AM

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lol have fun

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i know i will XD

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 3:42 AM

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beer is good

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and ty, u too

rotund sand Mar 8, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Someone dm me if yk how to jailbreak without a computer i need help

full vessel Mar 8, 2021, 6:06 AM

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Omg what did I miss! I sorry I feel asleep. I’ll try to read and catch up to what I have missed 😂

full vessel Mar 8, 2021, 7:47 AM

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Today after I get back from the Garage (hopefully will finish fixing the 2 cars) I’ll do some testing with the Xbox Elite 2 and try to get some logs to share. Unfortunately, I don’t have a MAC but I’ll be using Kali Linux and libimobiledevice and will share logs. My knowledge is not the greatest with tweak development but I might need your help later if I get stuck somewhere @burnt river

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It will be challenging with the elite controller that it doesn’t even show up in nControl at all

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 3:54 PM

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so maybe that one isbt actually supported yet

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 4:13 PM

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burnt river i dont mind sharing this ```+ (void)repairMobileBluetoothDictionary { NSStri...

btw objc has a terrible syntax

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 4:15 PM

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its still a trillion times better than swiftlang by every relevant metric @wraith ferry

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 4:15 PM

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burnt river its still a trillion times better than swiftlang by every relevant metric <@1234...

nah I prefer the swift syntax

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 4:15 PM

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swift is trash

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 4:16 PM

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I like the c-style syntax

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 4:16 PM

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id rather drink a beaker of sulfuric acid than write a single line in that dumpsterr fire

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 4:16 PM

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burnt river id rather drink a beaker of sulfuric acid than write a single line in that dumps...

lmao that's a very strong opinion haha

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 4:16 PM

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its not ANYTHING like C

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C eats swifts breakfast

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yeh i DESPISE swift more than i hate most other things

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that and catalyst

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ppl have got to reallly hate their users to deploy with that heap

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but yeh my hatred of swift makes me practically unemployable outside my current job

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but thankfully theyll go out of buisiness before i lose my job and neither is likely 😂

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definitely cant get cancelled either, they followed me on twitter before crybabies got me thrown off there too lol

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 4:59 PM

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burnt river ppl have got to reallly hate their users to deploy with that heap

Why tho?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 5:08 PM

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@wraith ferry catalyst?

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cuz thats what im referring to there, not swift. swift only affects your users if it still bloats the binaries, which is still shitty UX

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catalyst is like the electron of apple, it yields garbage that doesnt belong on macOS

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for lazy devs that are scared of easy ass AppKit

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its not hard to write an app that shares relevant code and works across platforms

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pulling the "com.apple.MobileBluetooth.devices.plist" thread a little bit today @silent anchor

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just read the one on my AppleTV and it does NOT have an entry for the pro controller that is paired right now, but it DOES have a record of a PS4 controller and the Xbox one, as well as my bluetooth sound bar. i have some theories im going to play around with to see if i can figure out exactly what that file is used for

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 5:24 PM

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Lmao Swift

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 5:25 PM

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im thinking it may add it to the list if nControl doesnt intercept it and allow it first and instead of serving as a "we know this device its okay" for that entry it'd be more "this device is no bueno, ignore it" idk yet. just guessing at the moment

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 5:26 PM

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burnt river cuz thats what im referring to there, not swift. swift only affects your users i...

yeah but that's not true anymore, the binaries don't contain the swift stdlib because it's now included in macOS and iOS

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 5:27 PM

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@wraith ferry took them long enough with that one, glad its not true anymore

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 5:27 PM

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burnt river for lazy devs that are scared of easy ass AppKit

it's not about being scared, it's about ease of porting apps. you can't expect devs to always write native apps for every arch. twitter didn't have a macOS app, now it has a wonderful app BECAUSE they used catalyst

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 5:27 PM

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burnt river its not hard to write an app that shares relevant code and works across platform...

easier to make one that shares 99% of the code though

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 5:29 PM

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wonderful? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 5:29 PM

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burnt river wonderful? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

it's a perfectly fine app and I enjoy using it lol

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something I'm missing?

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I'm the first that criticizes weird non-platform specific behavior

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but... uh the twitter app is just great lol

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 5:30 PM

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"Lazy Devs"

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You mean all of us?

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Devs are inhenetly lazy. That's why we program, to make our lives easier XD show me any dev who doesn't copy paste for a good majority of their code and I'll show you a liar

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Or a masochist

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One of the two

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 5:32 PM

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imo its not even great on iOS so the idea of a kronenburg being good on macOS is just baffling

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im lazy as fuck but not THAT lazy

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 5:33 PM

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See?

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Wheres that quote

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 5:33 PM

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not to where i make my users suffer

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 5:34 PM

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burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 5:34 PM

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my daily driver cant even run the twitter app

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yet another demerit for catalsyt in my book

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@wraith ferry thats another thing, you HAVE to run catalina or big sur to even use that app

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and i refuse to install either

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sorry if im coming off obnoxious, just very strong opinions here

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@silent anchor great quote but awful person 🤣

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 5:42 PM

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Is he? What's wrong with him

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 5:43 PM

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not here lol.

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dude is pure evil tho, like jeff epstein level evil

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they were actually pals too 🤣

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 5:46 PM

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burnt river <@123416893389275139> thats another thing, you HAVE to run catalina or big sur t...

I mean... not updating devices is a security risk, as a matter of fact

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 5:46 PM

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burnt river sorry if im coming off obnoxious, just very strong opinions here

no prob :D

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 5:47 PM

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@wraith ferry yeh id rather be at risk 🤣

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catalina and big sur are TERRRRRRRRRIBLE

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my laptop doesnt even support big sur either so i couldnt if i wanted to

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its on my work laptop and i cringe every time i use it (big sur)

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 5:54 PM

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burnt river catalina and big sur are TERRRRRRRRRIBLE

idk man I'm happily using them haha

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 5:54 PM

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the UI / UX are just 🤮

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to each their own tho 👍

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im moving away from macOS anyways so its all moot

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next laptop isnt going to be a mac for my first time ever.

limpid ruin Mar 8, 2021, 5:56 PM

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Moving to Linux I'd assume?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 5:56 PM

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yep!

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not sure which flavor yet

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probably arch

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system 76 laptop iirc. need my hdmi and old school usb ports still.

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sadly apple turned their back on pro user segment a long time ago.

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hmmmmm @silent anchor so that file has no influence on older devices accepting controller connections

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i unpaired my pro controller, temporarily moved the yourControl dylib out of place, tried to pair it. it connected/disconnected as expected. i see the item in the list. moved the dylib back, restarted bluetoothd, everything works fine again. im REALLY baffled why it makes a difference for anyone right now.

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maybe i need to torch the file altogether and start fresh with a test

boreal fable Mar 8, 2021, 6:36 PM

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Hey I bought ncontrol and Im having a hard time connecting joycons or my daulsense to it on an Iphone 12

wraith ferry Mar 8, 2021, 7:06 PM

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burnt river system 76 laptop iirc. need my hdmi and old school usb ports still.

oooh nice choice :)

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popOS is very nice, I have it on dualboot w/ win10 on my gaming rig

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 7:22 PM

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not familiar with popOS

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@boreal fable i have a feeling this is the issue ive been actively debugging last few days. although DualSense support is still unverified because i dont own one, but im fairly certain it should work. im wondering if the pinned message will help. im still researching why that would make a difference

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(why the pinned message appears to help some ppl)

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@silent anchor have u tried deleting that file or entry with latest v to see if it makes any diff?

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 7:34 PM

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the one in the pin?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 7:35 PM

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yeh

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 7:35 PM

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no lol cuz then i would lose all my pairings

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or have to repair i mean

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 7:35 PM

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fair point, could just try temporarily moving it

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or even just remove that one entry

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 7:36 PM

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removing the entry makes it try to pair properly again, and since its a pro controller, it doesnt work

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but the entry stays there

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 7:36 PM

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even with latest version? @silent anchor

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 7:37 PM

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not sure. ill have to check

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 7:37 PM

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plz do

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 7:37 PM

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ugh fine ill help XD

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 7:37 PM

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lol i appreciate it

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 7:37 PM

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whats the repo

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 7:37 PM

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i wouldnt ask if i could replicate this issue on my end

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packix

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 7:39 PM

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oh hey its 10$ XD

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gimme a sec

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 7:44 PM

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@silent anchor check dm plz

boreal fable Mar 8, 2021, 9:43 PM

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Do I need a mac for all that?

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@burnt river

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 9:44 PM

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@boreal fable i think we've potentially figured out a solution based on the pinned message. im working on making it possible to automate that directly in nControl

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just testing some things out with it now

boreal fable Mar 8, 2021, 9:45 PM

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I just wanna play Delta with either my joycon or dualsense 😭

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Lmao

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For the dualsense it basically connects for a second then disconnects

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And the joycons wont work

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The joycons show up but wont connect

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 9:59 PM

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@boreal fable i know the exact issue you are talking about and i think i have a temporary work around until i get to the bottom of the actual problem

boreal fable Mar 8, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Bet

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 10:08 PM

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just waiting on a test to verify it works before i put anything out.

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i dont own any of the devices that are having issues so its really hard for me to troubleshoot

boreal fable Mar 8, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Alright thats cool

boreal fable Mar 8, 2021, 11:32 PM

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@burnt river any updates?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 11:33 PM

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close, i think we got something working but i just replicated another bug that has been reported a few times and need to fix that as well before i push out a new update

boreal fable Mar 8, 2021, 11:34 PM

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Alright

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 11:34 PM

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Wait there's more?

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XD

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What's broken now

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 11:35 PM

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changing the controller mapping on iPad

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if you dont present view controllers in an iPad friendly way in your app then they kill the app lol

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 11:36 PM

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I don't have an iPad so you're on your own for that one lol

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 11:36 PM

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i actually just got one and thats how i found it

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i didnt realize it was iPad specific

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ugh so now it doesnt crash anymroe but it also doesnt show the alert lol

silent anchor Mar 8, 2021, 11:41 PM

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Ping me if you need me cuz I gotta catch up in other servers

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 11:42 PM

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thanks 🙂

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okay that is now fixed too 🙂 okay new build will be going up shortly

boreal fable Mar 8, 2021, 11:44 PM

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How do you update?

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 11:47 PM

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wdym

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just go into your package manager of choice and install it there

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it should be listed in updated

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updates*

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Screen_Shot_2021-03-08_at_4.48.25_PM.png

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"Fix Pairing Issues" is a new option u gotta run manually (i dont want to do it automatically for devices that dont require it)

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because its a bit of a stopgap fix that implements part of what sakura said in the pinned message

boreal fable Mar 8, 2021, 11:51 PM

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Thank you!

burnt river Mar 8, 2021, 11:57 PM

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its less than ideal but it worked for her so im hoping it helps others too

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it also adds support for some xbox controller i cant identify lol

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guessing some custom or elite model or something

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i think i need to add a custom user input field for the learning section so they can say the exact controller it is

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 12:04 AM

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Oh ya I meant to test other ways of fixing it

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Cuz idk making it think it's a keyboard instead of a controller feels weird

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I'm sure it's just that there's more variety of keyboard so they're less strict than with controllers but still

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:13 AM

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thats how controllers have been sneaking through for a long time

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that werent mfi

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we can keep messing with it

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 12:16 AM

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Ya but if we can make it work AND keep the device thinking it's a controller, it should allow controller things to happen to it

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Example, keyboards can't rumble. Game pads can. Maybe this way rumble won't work

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:17 AM

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nah rumble on pro still works

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 12:17 AM

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It was an EXAMPLE

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bonkcat

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:17 AM

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everything that matters still think its a controller

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even other parts of bluetoothd

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still know

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 12:18 AM

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But you get my point

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:18 AM

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i do

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 12:18 AM

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And maybe we won't be able to make it work, but maybe we can

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:19 AM

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and i dont like doing it this way either

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 12:19 AM

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If we can't, ok so what. It still works. But if we can, all the better

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:20 AM

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agreed

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theres def another way, just need to find it

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and while its fresh in my mind im still going to investigate a few things

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 12:37 AM

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@burnt river hey so now the dualsense connects but the buttons and inputs dont do anything lol

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:38 AM

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@boreal fable still progress! lol, strange because according to the report data i got it should be identical to ps4

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 12:38 AM

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Yea

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It is progress tho

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:38 AM

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ill take another look in a moment and see if i missed anything

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 12:39 AM

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My controller shows up called Generic Troubleshooting (CS Virtual)

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:39 AM

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ah thats not right

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can u get me the vendor and product id?

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 12:40 AM

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Is that on the controller?

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Nvm got it

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Lol

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:42 AM

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bizarre, it should totally be picked up as a DS5

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 12:42 AM

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My joycons are all the way upstairs Ill get them and see if they at least work

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:44 AM

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@boreal fable no i want to figure out whats going wrong here if u dont mind

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theres a log file i need u to send me

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/Library/Logs/controllersupport-Error.log

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 12:45 AM

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hmm

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how do I get that

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:45 AM

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lol i never have an easy answer for that

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i really need to work on that

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 12:45 AM

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in files?

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:46 AM

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@boreal fable files probavly wont get it but filza will and itll let u share it too

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 12:47 AM

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ok

#

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Dont see controllersupport-Error

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:50 AM

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@boreal fable /Library/Logs/

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oh nm

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hmm

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 12:51 AM

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My ps5 controller won’t connect?

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 12:51 AM

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mine connects now

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after pressing the fix pairing button

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but nothing works

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:52 AM

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@rapid spade make sure to grab the latest release and choose 'fix pairing issues' still trying to debug why PS5 isnt working AFTER that now

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@boreal fable because its not recognizing it as a PS5 controller for some reason, but without that log i cant find out why. it makes no sense that its not there

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 12:53 AM

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It shows up in my Bluetooth. it just keeps showing not connected. I’ve tried forgetting the device and pairing it again. I just downloaded the latest release too. I’ll try the fix pairing issues right now

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 12:53 AM

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Yea u gotta do that

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@burnt river shall I try the joycon now?

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:54 AM

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@boreal fable i guess, i still would like to get to the bottom of why theres no log file, cuz its clearly running if it creates that learning virtual device for u

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 12:54 AM

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Yea its really weird

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Id prefer if that one worked too

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Since its in my opinion the most comfortable controller

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 12:55 AM

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Still not connecting on my end

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 12:57 AM

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even after the 'fix pairing issues'? ugh

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fucking apple

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 12:57 AM

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Ok so the joycons arent working at all

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Wont even connect

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 12:58 AM

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My joy cons won’t work either

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Does anyone know if the newer Xbox controllers work?

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Like the ones for the s/x

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 12:58 AM

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The series x?

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 12:58 AM

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Yes

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 12:58 AM

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Dont have one

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 12:59 AM

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oh ya i guess we should have checked joycons huh

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i have some of those

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:00 AM

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yeh i dont have one that is charged or a charger, but last i tested them they still worked. unless i broke something while trying to do some research into making them into one controller. its possible

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lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:00 AM

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theyre so janky

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:00 AM

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you can make them one controller?

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:00 AM

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right now im baffled as to why the DS5 support i JUST added isnt working, or even registering that its there

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i mean i cant, nintendo can

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:01 AM

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oh lmao

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:01 AM

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boreal fable you can make them one controller?

not really no

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:01 AM

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i miserably failed at my attempt

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:01 AM

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I just want one to work

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:01 AM

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theyre two controllers that change the mapping based on the presence of another joycon

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:01 AM

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to play gba and ds games

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:01 AM

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which nintendo does automatically. obviously ios doesnt

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:01 AM

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i hear ya, im going to get to the bottom of the PS5 stuff as soon as i can figure out why u dont have a log

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that completely cripples my ability to troubleshoot lol

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:01 AM

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maybe I did something wrong?

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:02 AM

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its a firmware thing, not a hardware thing. so ya basically nito would have to reimplement the way the switch does it

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:02 AM

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I’m on iOS 13.5 if that matters

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:02 AM

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including detecting if a joycon is left or right and then seeing if a second is hooked up, and then changing the mappings based on that... ya tbh dont count on it soon lol

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then again i could be dumb, thats possible

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:03 AM

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I GOT IT

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wrong library

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Sorry

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rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:03 AM

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What’s the directory to the logs?

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:04 AM

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📎 controllersupport-Error.log

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:04 AM

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ty

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:04 AM

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Were all learning as we go along

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Lmao

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:05 AM

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burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:05 AM

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wow what the hell?????

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:05 AM

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Here’s mine

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:05 AM

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@boreal fable yours is crazy

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:05 AM

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really?

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 AM

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yeh like the weirdest log ive EVER seen

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 AM

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oh damn..

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 AM

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maybe there are some strange side effects to making the change that we do @silent anchor lol

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 AM

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SEE!

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this is what i was talking about!

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XD

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:07 AM

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@rapid spade and yours is just desolate lol. ugh this is so strange

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@silent anchor we dont know for sure thats why im seeing this weird behavior

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:07 AM

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ya actually

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:07 AM

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@burnt river Do you know if the series x controller will work?

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:08 AM

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posix error?

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isnt that

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wtf

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:08 AM

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Im lost.

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:08 AM

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lmao error: null

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wonderful

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so helpful

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ok whos having what issues

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:09 AM

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mine connects

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but doesnt work

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:10 AM

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@boreal fable you controller is just firing off wildly differing information

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and none of it jives with it being a dualsense controller

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its pid is completely empty

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and vid is NOT sonys vendor id

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:10 AM

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huh.

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:10 AM

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unpair

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:10 AM

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i have no idea WHO 1452

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is

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:10 AM

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and then try again from start

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:10 AM

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ok

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:11 AM

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yeh and if its possible to reset the controller to factory settings i'd do that too

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:11 AM

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idk how duelsense works

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:11 AM

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there should be a little pin hole somewhere iirc

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:11 AM

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i wonder if it resends the device id after

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:11 AM

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almost every controller has something like this, the DS4 did as well

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we'll find out

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:11 AM

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maybe pro controller doesnt, and thats why it works

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wait no forget what i said

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:12 AM

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but tons of logs like this found device: (null) with vid: 1452 pid: 0, reportDescriptor: <060cff09 11a10106 00ff0923 a1008501 0615ff09 04950175 40810206 0cff090d 950176b0 05810285 02060cff 090e9501 76b00581 02c08501 05200a0e 03950175 20b10285 020a1b03 95017520 b1028504 05200a1a 03950175 20b102c0> length: 92

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:12 AM

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that would make it not connect

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but it does connect, but doesnt work

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actually wait no that means the fix we did worked. what we changed is working.

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:12 AM

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@silent anchor no

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and yes

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:12 AM

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but now NEW issue, some controllers dont work

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:12 AM

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found device: (null) with vid: 1452 pid: 0, reportDescriptor: <0520097a a1018501 27ffffff 7f170000 0080550b 75209501 05200a57 0481020a 58048102 05200a59 04810255 0e0a3404 8102060c ff090924 14450234 75028102 55004501 34090a75 01810295 01750581 01090b44 34751081 020600ff 0923a100 0615ff09 02754081 02c00520 0a0e0395 017520b1 0285020a 1b039501 7520b102 0615ff0a 01008503 95017520 b102c0> length: 143

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this is the closest one to looking like it comes from a dual sense controller

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:13 AM

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hmm

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:13 AM

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well i dont know if this issue is at all related to what we just did. cant say for certain very easily on things like this

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:13 AM

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welp

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:13 AM

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but either way the vid and pid are wrong

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:13 AM

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back to square one now

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:13 AM

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the fix we did should allow any controller to connect

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:13 AM

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@boreal fable what happened?

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:13 AM

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it connects for a second

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:13 AM

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technically... it might make any bluetooth device period work

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:13 AM

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then disconnects

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:13 AM

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okay NOW let me see the log

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before applying the pairing fix

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:14 AM

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📎 controllersupport-Error.log

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:14 AM

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ty

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:14 AM

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maybe also the bluetooth device plist too

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before and after pairing fix

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aka before and after its forcing it to work. maybe something happens

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oh ya that reminds me i have like 30 temp files that i need to delete

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:16 AM

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hm no changes in the log. thats even weirder

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@boreal fable try the pairing fix again

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please

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@silent anchor yeh that might not be a bad idea

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might be able to cull some information about why its getting such weird descriptors

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:18 AM

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for unrelated reasons im about to take some distillate so im either going to be a lot of help soon, or none at all lol

boreal fable Mar 9, 2021, 1:18 AM

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@burnt river I did

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:18 AM

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wait wtf vendor id 1452 is apple

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:18 AM

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what no its not

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76 is

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:19 AM

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https://www.the-sz.com/products/usbid/index.php?v=0x5AC&p=&n=

USB ID Database

Database of USB devices and their Vendor and Product ID's

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:19 AM

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oh hex

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lmao im dumb

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:19 AM

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0x05AC = 1452

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why the hell does it think your dualsense is an apple device

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@boreal fable theres a file that i'd like u to send me that u can find via directions in the pinned message from @silent anchor

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dont follow the rest of the directions cuz thats what my "fix pairing issues" does under the hood

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i just want that file

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:21 AM

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or if you have a terminal do

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:22 AM

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i also wonder if your dual sense is flagging false positive for a 'supported' controller.

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:24 AM

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plutil /private/var/containers/Shared/SystemGroup/E08FE7FC-09B9-4B82-9820-1DC9AACB9452/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileBluetooth.devices.plist > devices.plist

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then upload that file

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devices.plist

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:25 AM

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@boreal fable im also going to DM you a custom build to install, i want to see if the DS5 is getting swept up by the check i do to let PS4 and Xbox pass through

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since support was added for those in 13

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cuz those generic controllers that are showing up are probably apple devices that i need to filter out.

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@rapid spade i dont know, i added support for another xbox controller today but it might be passing through like the DS5 potentially is

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i can send u this custom build as well that has some extra logs to try and pin down if that is what is happening

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:29 AM

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I can do that

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:30 AM

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cool check DM @rapid spade

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:36 AM

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No success

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:36 AM

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i wasnt expecting success just hopefully a more helpful log

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and u tried disconnecting and reconnecting the controller? @rapid spade

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:36 AM

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I’ll try it again

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:37 AM

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ok

rapid spade Mar 9, 2021, 1:39 AM

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It shows up in my Bluetooth under wireless controller, always has, but won’t connect

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When i try to pair it the flashing blue stops and goes solid for a couple seconds then the controller turns off

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:40 AM

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oh right since it doesnt connect it wont even log out that issue

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:41 AM

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silent anchor ```plutil /private/var/containers/Shared/SystemGroup/E08FE7FC-09B9-4B82-9820-1DC...

their UUID in that path will be different

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:41 AM

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was the same for both of us

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:41 AM

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which is why i use 'find' to get at it

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strange

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on my ipod its /private/var/containers/Shared/SystemGroup/2CE45485-4DBE-4CAE-900E-1836E521329E/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileBluetooth.devices.plist

silent anchor Mar 9, 2021, 1:43 AM

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hmm

burnt river Mar 9, 2021, 1:43 AM

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/usr/bin/find /private/var/containers/Shared/SystemGroup -type f -iname "*MobileBluetooth.devices.plist" will always find it