tvos-jailbreaks

[fleet parcel]

My apologies...

No, the untether is hard coded and any type of removal will ruin the file system

[nocturne latch]

ok

thx

[umbral ingot]

https://twitter.com/mtac8/status/1351955977969545220?s=21

MTAC (@MTAC8)

Lookin works in HeadBoard! Big things coming to tvOS! @Litteeen @iKilledAppl3

Twitter · Jan 20, 2021, 6:13 PM

[umbral ingot]

@jaunty rune did I hear you say a semi-transparent dock?

[jaunty rune]

@umbral ingot if u did thats some superhearing lol but yah thats def something i mentioned/want.

Nice

[umbral ingot]

Lol 😂

I’m working on it for ya

[jaunty rune]

Sweeeet! Many thanks

I messed with the color and opacity in flex lol but thats it

[umbral ingot]

Needs some TLC @jaunty rune but I'm working on it! Thanks to @desert hawk for his KBSlider I think i might be able to save the values and get it to read from the tweak.

[jaunty rune]

Nice work!

[desert hawk]

dope! im glad i wont be only one using it. tanner doesnt wanr to merge my flex changes cuz i changed too much 🤣

[analog elk]

how come @umbral ingot doesn't have dev role

[desert hawk]

good Q

btw @fleet parcel im finally migrating servers for nitosoft to something i have more control over. so when they go down im not SOL lol

since the server im moving to has 55 gb maybe we can see about hosting your repo as well so it can be on a faster server. ill talk to jaywalker about it

i was outgrowing my old server anyways 11 gb, although a lot of that is older packages for atv2/3 i should prob do some housecleaning there after i migrate

and ill make sure other ppl can finally sign up and edit the wiki as well

kinda funny it hosts things from atv1-5 still lol

[astral marten]

@fleet parcel

lmaoo

I'm getting deca5 to restore this tv

[umbral ingot]

I wanted to make sure it get some love because it’s really useful. I had to modify it a bit to get it to compile for my case but it works just got it to update the value saved but that’s not an issue

[desert hawk]

@umbral ingot why wouldnt it build?

RIP USA. ugh these two are going to be atrociously terrible.

[umbral ingot]

The property didn’t follow (nonatomic, assign)

[desert hawk]

@umbral ingot oops lol

[fleet parcel]

@umbral ingot I'd migrate that slider into NoDock

Give users the ability to both enable/disable or set custom transparency

I'll see about porting libcolorpicker, then we can select colors too based on the slider(s)

[umbral ingot]

That’s what CustoDockTV is supposed to do but I see what you mean

I’ll probably just do that instead

[fleet parcel]

@umbral ingot do you have netflix on your apple tv?

[umbral ingot]

No I don’t watch Netflix @fleet parcel

[desert hawk]

there is a decreasing level of content and quality for sure

[fleet parcel]

check this out @desert hawk: netflix doesn't work on a clean OS.. but works in a jailbroken state

[desert hawk]

dafook? actually i think the reverse was true as well once but obvs less surprisinf

[fleet parcel]

also, Apple patched the itunes store

so that means AppStore++ doesn't work

[desert hawk]

fun, yeh ive lost fouch with everyone cuz twitter ban

[fleet parcel]

I'm sure Coke has a discord.. I can throw him a shout to see if there's a fix

[desert hawk]

so if u wanna know who to blame for severing my channels... commies and twitter

[fleet parcel]

oh yeah.. you got the memo on Parler

at least LBRY isn't down (yet)

[desert hawk]

yep they cant take that down its decentralized

for that very reason

lbry

[astral marten]

@fleet parcel

Deca5 would work on the atv 3,2 if
He uses checkm8_bootkit to send ibss
Switches to theiphonewiki to get keys

Idk about about the ramdisks though

Because apparently according to someone, Apple made some of the ramdisks improperly

Which is why they may fail

[trim wagon]

well here we go again, pressed on the wrong button on the update prompt

[barren cloak]

What versions do u0TV work on

[fleet parcel]

If you pressed the wrong button and it starts to prepare, you can reboot

[fleet parcel]

11-13.4.5

[storm ridge]

@umbral ingot @fleet parcel Is it possible to create a tweak to control the time delay of the SIRI feedback notification text that shows up at the bottom of the screen? I often use the remote for some home automation eg. adjusting lights in the room and I'll get a notification at the bottom of the screen to confirm my choice. But, it dims my screen while it sits there for about 45 seconds. That's really too long. I can dismiss pressing the Menu button but it would be great if it just disappeared on it's own after a few seconds. Is this possible to tweak?

[fleet parcel]

Ooh, like Siri auto dismissing?

[umbral ingot]

That’s a great idea @storm ridge and @fleet parcel

Might look into it

[fleet parcel]

One tweak i was aiming to get is siris voice

[desert hawk]

yeh im long overdue looking into siri stuff

that sounds fun

[storm ridge]

Look forward to any improvements!

[grand ingot]

Josh ever had this happen to you and then an app wouldn’t open?

[fleet parcel]

if you're talking about Netflix...

[grand ingot]

Well just happened to me, now Netflix wouldn’t even open, just like if you were to install an app whilst jailbroken and then attempting to open after a reboot - just kicks you out.

[fleet parcel]

yeah

[grand ingot]

I even reset Apple TV but no luck

[fleet parcel]

you can downgrade it via AppStore++

it'll work fine then

[grand ingot]

Removed, reinstalled but no luck

[grand ingot]

Nice cheers for the tip - obviously i wonder if this is something they do on purpose?

[fleet parcel]

resetting the Apple TV was unnecessary.. especially if you didn't do it right

[grand ingot]

Wasn’t jailbroken btw

Still on 13.4.5 - I’m assuming eligible for U0?

[fleet parcel]

yes

[grand ingot]

I know your meant to restore rootfs first then restore, right?

[fleet parcel]

if you have blobs.. you can switch between 13 and 14

[grand ingot]

Actually I might have blogs saved, need to check

Blobs*

[fleet parcel]

(granted it's not 4K)

i regret the stickers...

[grand ingot]

Not 4K. It’s 4th gen

[fleet parcel]

cool

[grand ingot]

Cheers fella thanks, you’re always helpful 👌🏻

I just need to setup a Hackintosh on my desktop and get Xcode

Any useful guides on your website?

What a nobhead I am, only blobs I got is 10.2.2 & 13.3.1

Why on earth did I not save 13.4.5 I don’t know (lazy?)

[fleet parcel]

Oooooof

Wait.. Are you currently on 13.4.5?

@grand ingot

[desert hawk]

ugh discord changed their icon to the horrid big sur style one 🤮

i dont know if that happened a while ago and i didnt notice till now, but blech

[fleet parcel]

The purple thing?

[desert hawk]

the dock icon

or app icon in general

this atrocity

(on mac obviously)

[fleet parcel]

I think that's standard?

Unless it's that 3d looking effect

[desert hawk]

for big sur yeh, but its horrible

and thats why im complaining lol

[fleet parcel]

Big sur isn't even worth being on vm

[desert hawk]

ugh i changed it to the non shitty circle one and it fucking changed it back 😦 what a dick move

[fleet parcel]

Little did I know, you can change the dock color inside one of the Core bundles

[desert hawk]

haha nice

[fleet parcel]

Oh, I was going to ask @desert hawk ... is there an extra arg in checkra1n to skip uploading the bootstrap and just enable code execution?

[desert hawk]

@fleet parcel if there is im not aware of it

[fleet parcel]

interesting...

i bet sig knows...

😛

[desert hawk]

i bet a good handful of them do lol.

[desert hawk]

there needs to be a reddit tweak for skipping memes with comrade sanders in them, good gravy its the biggest cringefest in history

[hasty pier]

[desert hawk]

its pretty funny when you search for a private class to see if anyone else has messed with it before and find the exact question you are trying to answer 🤣

AVNowPlayingTransportBar is the class and the post in question is https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/29125

was thinking about making a transport bar for ethereal when its using the other playback framework

can probably modify KBSlider to do something like that

[atomic snow]

Hello, I’m using provenance to play some games in my Apple TV, I play with an Xbox controller but there is a problem with the “B” button, when I press it, it takes me to home and it’s annoying because there are some games that require to use that button to play properly, do u know how can I fix that??

[desert hawk]

@atomic snow what tvOS version are you on?

[atomic snow]

14.2

[desert hawk]

okay tnx, i cant think of any reason it would map the B button to home. ill dig up one of my xbox controllers over here some time tonight or tomorrow and see if i have the same issue.

oh wow it was also you that asked about mkv files.. i just searched through the history to see how asked about it.

mkv isnt broken in ethreal, that entire framework i use is broken in 14

wont play anything at all

[atomic snow]

Ok I’ll stay tuned

[desert hawk]

well wont display anything at all

it might actually be playing but just not drawing for some stupid reason

cuz i just tested 2 files in 13 and 14 and they both worked in 13 in ethereal but displayed zilch in 14

why that is? i have no clue. the framework i use is closed source so im not sure how that part of it works.

[atomic snow]

Oh I see, yes the file was sent to the Apple TV but it never played so I Ended up using vlc

Btw who pays you for all this help?

[desert hawk]

no one

i mean i get paid for things i sell and i have a 9-5 job. but for the help in here for things like ethereal and everything else? i dont get paid by anyone for that

but no one here does

[fleet parcel]

The B button is also standard on mfi controllers as well

[desert hawk]

oh to go back as menu

[fleet parcel]

Yeah

[desert hawk]

ah ype thats exactly whats happening

good call my dude

[fleet parcel]

Ha

[desert hawk]

i need to update my provenance to fix that, theres something that changed in 14 with menu handling

[fleet parcel]

Yeah, apples lack of attention to tvOS and more on iOS

[desert hawk]

indeed

i wonder if this av player framework is only broken on tvOS in 14 or if its broken in iOS as well

[fleet parcel]

I think whatever's broken on tvOS, works great on iOS

[desert hawk]

haha its possible, but at very least it believes SETUP OPENGL SUCCESSFULLY!!!

on both 13 and 14

so its not catching any errors during that setup

which is inside of [AVMovieGLView commonInit]

[desert hawk]

lol works perfectly fine on iOS 14. just broken on tvOS. of course.

[umbral ingot]

It's starting to look better guys! and not only that I got the slider to save the value to my plist! Now just to do some more fixes and it'll be ready @jaunty rune

[grand ingot]

Yeah on 13.4.5 on 4th gen, why is that good or bad? 🧐

[fleet parcel]

no, that's good

you can save on-device blobs @grand ingot

[grand ingot]

Uh? How?

That’s really good news, that would mean I could really move from 14 to 13 back and forth

[fleet parcel]

install [[aputil]]

[analog elk]

APUtility

A utility to produce SHSH2 blobs from APtickets on-device.

Author

JTV

Version

0.1.1

Repo

JoshTV Repo

Bundle ID

net.joshtv.aputility

More Info

View on Parcility

JoshTV Repo - Page 1/2 · Jan 23, 2021, 6:41 AM

[grand ingot]

Good stuff cheers for that. Just wondering, is it possible to extract them at a later stage?

[fleet parcel]

yes, via ssh

[grand ingot]

Fantastic

Gonna get it jailbroken, install AppStore++ (assuming it’s still working), downgrade any none working apps (Netflix for now), then try to re-install up-to-date version, if that don’t work will update to 14 and back again with jb. Then of course next install ncontrol and enjoy some retro gaming =}}

[fleet parcel]

before you update to 14...

@grand ingot extract your blob or 'dump'

terminal will tell you where it is

[grand ingot]

Yeah 100%

Thanks

[jaunty rune]

@umbral ingot whats that gingerbread man looking module?

[umbral ingot]

@jaunty rune it’s an accessibility module I’m working on

I use certain accessibility features

And I wanted a quick way to access them

[jaunty rune]

Ah yah shoulda went with my gut guess lol

[fleet parcel]

it's a button you press for Farquaad to cook it

https://tenor.com/view/gingerbreadman-candy-chocolate-cookies-gif-9176371

[jaunty rune]

Haha now only to create that animation

Lmao classic line not my gumdrop buttons

[fleet parcel]

Although.. I was thinking like a desktop goose tweak for apple tv

it'd run freely.. pulling out memes.. touching random apps

[umbral ingot]

Pixelomer has his open source version that ran on iOS

I tried porting it

But gave up

[fleet parcel]

'course you did

above anyone.. especially the one to port harlem shake...

[jaunty rune]

https://tenor.com/view/clip-windows-microsoft-agent-gif-11209432

This guy instead

[umbral ingot]

I also had the idea to port him too

[fleet parcel]

i'd take the clip over siri's orb

[umbral ingot]

That’s an even better idea

[fleet parcel]

or the search dog

[umbral ingot]

Mighty kind words sir

[umbral ingot]

This ^^

[jaunty rune]

All the things!

[fleet parcel]

partial compliment 😛

[umbral ingot]

I’ll take it

[fleet parcel]

one idea was to get siri to speak

[umbral ingot]

I also tried porting Bonzi buddy to tvOS

But it was too much lol 😂

[fleet parcel]

maybe hooking avkit into siri

[umbral ingot]

@fleet parcel I’m taking your idea into consideration and not making this a separate tweak from HideMyDockTV but adding it to the tweak instead.

[fleet parcel]

ah, ok

[umbral ingot]

If so since people probably use the one on your repo I’ll just have you upload the deb to your repo if that’s fine

[fleet parcel]

i /could/ host the updated vers

😛

[umbral ingot]

Great minds think alike

Lol 😂

[desert hawk]

so i built a different ffmpeg based framework to use in ethereal instead. and it doesnt work on tvos 13 OR 14 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

cant win

yet the current one works on both ios versions and only up to tvos 13. i miss when apple wasnt terrible at everything 🤣

oh and the weird issue where menu isnt handled properly? the ONLY way ive found to reliably fix it is build with a tvOS 14 sdk. which is the dumbest fix ever.

so i guess to fix provenance i might have to build it with the 14 sdk.

ugh

[open bramble]

What does tvos jailbreak do exactly?

[astral marten]

Root access to the tv

So you can ssh and see see stuff

Or download tweaks and customize

[open bramble]

Oh so basically u can just customize ur tvos more?

[astral marten]

Ye

Also airdrop

[open bramble]

Ah ight

[desert hawk]

https://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/FAQ

@open bramble

the faq is slightly outdated but my stuff is frozen while im migrating servers

[eager sundial]

How does airdrop work? I can’t see the AppleTV 4K when I try to airdrop from my iPhone.

I have installed Breezy but nothing

[desert hawk]

@eager sundial what kind of file are you trying to AirDrop? occasionally you need to restart PineBoard to get AirDrop working because it doesn't get injected in time

oh sweet i was wrong about that other framework, there was just a few other bugs in the tvOS sample app 🙂 means ill be able to fix ethereal in 14 by putting this framework in place of the other one.

[eager sundial]

@desert hawk just tried and still not working. I don’t see the appletv on airdrop. Appel tv on tvOS 14.3 and the iPhone is on 14.2

[desert hawk]

go into settings->tweaks -> breezy and try toggling it off/on and maybe restart sharingd

sometimes itll show up under “other” if it isnt signed into same app store account

[eager sundial]

No luck

Will tweaks for iOS work on tvOS?

Or do we have to convert them

?

[umbral ingot]

No iOS tweaks will work on tvOS

Different classes and other factors

You can port some but not all

[desert hawk]

yeh depends largely on the tweak

@eager sundial thats strange i thought i tested 14.3 but maybe i didnt yet.

but theres no reason it shouldnt work

[eager sundial]

It does not work. I tried everything you mentioned. I can see my other devices on Airdrop. I set it up on Everyone to make sure.

[eager sundial]

Any guide for FlexInjected? It seems I’m not able to change values. On the iOS version, I can choose value between pass-through, True and False.

[desert hawk]

@eager sundial theres some things that dont work 1:1. theres no guides yet. its very new

[eager sundial]

Thx Nito

[eager sundial]

I found this app Supercharge. Would it be possible to port it to tvOS?

https://www.supercharge.app

[desert hawk]

@eager sundial incredibly doubtful i will port anythibg else like that

libflex was already an insane undertaking

and the author already rebuffed my changes to that based on this MR https://github.com/FLEXTool/FLEX/pull/500 so im not very inclined to undertake something like that again.

i will make sure all my airdrop related and current libflex stuff gets resolved, but these other things... uncertain

[jaunty rune]

@desert hawk what problems are u speaking of for ethereal?

As for ron.. maybe airplay isnt on in “airplay and homekit” orr on a different network lol

Also hes thinking the other flex.. like i did lol

[eager sundial]

Airplay is on and all devices are on the same network

[fleet parcel]

imagine a tweak that allows other tweaks from other devices to function.. much like catalyst on mac

[desert hawk]

fuck catalyst in the face

i hate that entire concept with the passion of a million suns

anyone tbat knows how absurdly easy appkit is despises catalyst

[jaunty rune]

Lolol

@desert hawk hey just wondering what issues are you speaking of with ethereal

[desert hawk]

@jaunty rune any codecs or containers unsupported by apple (avi, mkv, vp9 etc) would defer to this closed source ffmpeg based framework that is solely broken on tvOS 14

so if unsupported files came in on tvOS 14 itd look like its trying to play but just give you a black screen

the OpenGL based code would still report success. but no video would appear and audio would be empty as well. the callback functions would report data on buffering and bitrate, but the UI would present nada

[glacial pond]

when i try to jb my apple tv 2nd gen using seas0npass, itll get to this screen and when i try holding down the menu and play/pause buttons on the remote, nothing will happen in seas0npass. in the finder, the apple tv will disconnect and reconnect, and the light on the apple tv starts pulsing super fast. any help is appreciated

im using a mac running catalina, so idk if the lack of itunes caused this

[desert hawk]

@glacial pond seas0npass is no longer supported. i think its been broken for a while

[glacial pond]

oh

is there any alternative to seas0npass to jb the 2nd gen? mine is running 6.2.1

[desert hawk]

on the mac i dont think so. sorry. of the things ive written and worked on only appletv4+ gets support from me anymore. those devices are too old and underpowered

[glacial pond]

are there any for windows?

that you know of

[fleet parcel]

seas0ns pass works just fine

it'll work for Windows too

[glacial pond]

on windows?

oh ok

[fleet parcel]

but I think you need an older vers of iTunes

[glacial pond]

ok ill try it on my brother's computer later

[fleet parcel]

I had difficulties with it.. but as long as you keep iTunes open, it should be alright

[glacial pond]

oh ok

thank you so much for your help!

[fleet parcel]

no worries

[desert hawk]

the amount of effort required to get atv2 jailbroken vs the quality of the 6.2.1 jailbreak i think setting money on the ground on fire is a better use of your time, and i wrote that jailbreak. just my 2 cents. not trying to be mean but dependinfg on your end goal you will likely be VERY disappointed

[fleet parcel]

I'd get the 4th gen...

[desert hawk]

@fleet parcel seas0npass doesnt work just fine for a huge swath of ppl and at all passed sierra probably as far as the exploits go

[glacial pond]

idk im considering just picking up an apple tv 3rd gen jb-ing my 2nd doesn’t work on windows

[desert hawk]

i had to spend months implementing SHAtter cuz apple FUCKED the usb stack in el crappy 10

the third is equally worthless imo

go 4th plus

[fleet parcel]

seas0nspass never failed me on HS

got it working on win 10 too

hell.. I just used it about a week ago

[desert hawk]

the win version is probably more resilient

you should probably trust my advice in software i authored @fleet parcel 🤣🤣

[glacial pond]

ill try jb-ing on my brother's computer tomorrow (cuz he's sleeping rn) and ill keep u updated about how it goes

[fleet parcel]

it is, however your result significantly increase when iTunes is open (in my exp)

[desert hawk]

between my support levels of it through the years and writing it 🤷‍♂️

[fleet parcel]

i've seen the code base.. nice work btw

[desert hawk]

lol u think? ugh thats my least favorite work 🤣🤣 i guess at the time it was ok

[glacial pond]

eh idk if i wanna get a 4th gen cuz im just jb-ing my 2nd gen for fun and 4th gens are a little out of my price range. but idk

[fleet parcel]

4th gens are much cheaper now

'bout 80 bucks

[desert hawk]

@glacial pond bro trust me

its worth the extra cheddar

the 2nd and 3rd arent worth a big mac

[glacial pond]

ill just subscribe myself to swappa's apple tv 4th gen emails so if i find one at a good price ill buy

[desert hawk]

good plan, bootrom jb for life no extra hw needed and still supports 14

[glacial pond]

my bday is in a month or so anyways

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fleet parcel]

no extra hw needed
except for the infamous usb-c cable

[jaunty rune]

@jaunty rune any codecs or containers unsupported by apple (avi, mkv, vp9 etc) would defer to this closed source ffmpeg based framework that is solely broken on tvOS 14
@desert hawk ah. Yah any mkv “failed to find any applications to open” and i have vlc

[desert hawk]

@jaunty rune thats different it should still find those apps but fail to play in ethereal

itll act like it wants to but just sit there

[jaunty rune]

Yah that happens with avi but i cant get any vlc to find an app

So i went to download kodi earlier but exited nito pretty much right away cuz didnt want to wait for the download. Go to dl again rn and pretty much installs instantly

Did it download in the background even with nito not open in switcher

[desert hawk]

@jaunty rune i mean it might keep going in bg, that behavior is kind of undefined

[fleet parcel]

corrupt file

[umbral ingot]

So I took @fleet parcel 's advice and incorporated CustoDockTV into HideMyDockTV. I actually think it's almost ready! @jaunty rune you're gonna like this

I also messed with KBSlider a bit to make it look more native thanks again @desert hawk

I really like how this is going

[edgy forum]

How did you get that

[umbral ingot]

It reads the last value saved and displays it on the text. Also when the slider is adjusted it will update with the new value.

[umbral ingot]

It's a feature coming soon

I'm updating my tweak

[edgy forum]

Oooo

[fleet parcel]

imagine the slider fading based on percentage increase... to give users a taste of how "transparent" is transparent

[umbral ingot]

great idea

[fleet parcel]

much like the slider colors changing as adjustments are made

[edgy forum]

I whish their was a option for switching between accounts on discord

[umbral ingot]

I feel you on that

[desert hawk]

@umbral ingot if you make cool changes to kbslider please open MRs

im behind on convo cuz i was at the bar

[fleet parcel]

next tweak: field sobriety test... are you sober enough to use your Apple TV?

[desert hawk]

lol the only dangerous amount of alcohol is none

if im still alive, dont be a bitch haha

[umbral ingot]

will do

[jaunty rune]

So I took @fleet parcel 's advice and incorporated CustoDockTV into HideMyDockTV. I actually think it's almost ready! @jaunty rune you're gonna like this
@umbral ingot sick! Nice work. Coming along. thanks

[umbral ingot]

You’re welcome 😉

[uncut crag]

How can I update my Apple TV? I’m stuck on 13.4.5. I’ve tried to restore root fs, turned off “disable auto updates” in unc0ver” and software updates is enabled in nitoTV.

[trim wagon]

i think you gotta reset the appletv

only thing that worked for me at least

[uncut crag]

Reset didn’t work either

[fleet parcel]

@uncut crag is it 4k?

[desert hawk]

running “reset all settings” is literally NEVER recommended

especially if you havent reverted the snapshot yet, if you have a 4k and reset without reverting a snapshot and then try to update there is a 100% chance of bricking your device

[fleet parcel]

that's untrue

it's risky.. but the likeliness of your 4K bootlooping is slim to none. Apples got protections in that cancel the update if any odd-ball dirs are present from the bootstrap.

[desert hawk]

@fleet parcel uh thats exactlu how nine bootlooped 🤣

i really wish youd stop telling ne things arent true that ive experienced directly

[fleet parcel]

I don't know what you did to make it bootloop

[desert hawk]

its starting to get REALLY annoying

i just told you it upgraded automatovally without me reverting the snapshot. immediate & instant bootloop

trying to upgrade without reverting the snapshot will absolutely leave your device in an unusable state.

at very least it will fail the update but in my experience 100% of the time it led to a bootloop

[astral marten]

Oh yeah I forgot about that

Is there no ipsws?

Dev or not

[desert hawk]

no there is not

[astral marten]

Hmm

[desert hawk]

not publicly avail anyway. just OTA images

[analog elk]

I did restore rootfs on my 4K and then updated and even did reset all settings without issue after that

[desert hawk]

if you restore rootfs first you will be fine

reset all settings just doesnt reset all settings

and if you do that before reverting rootfs

and try to update, you will have a bad time

[astral marten]

Wait

[desert hawk]

THAT is what im trying to hammer home. reset all settings is ostensibly useless tho

[astral marten]

Does the atv have a reset homescreen layout?

I doubt but

Or something similar

[desert hawk]

i mean reset all settings MIGHT do that. but thats a bit of a blunt object

[astral marten]

Hmm

[analog elk]

removing the user might work?

[desert hawk]

but i had to add extra code to checkra1n to try and recover from reset all settings being run in between jailbreaks. and i dont even remember what i did at this point. but either way i NEVER recommend using it.

[glacial pond]

this happened when trying on windows

[desert hawk]

removing a user MIGHT work to reset home screen layout

[glacial pond]

i tried using an older version of iTunes

[desert hawk]

@glacial pond what generation appletv? i was fairly certain the windows v was broken too

[glacial pond]

2nd

[desert hawk]

ok yeh then it sounds like SP is broken there too

[glacial pond]

oh ok

[desert hawk]

idk tho, i know they dont update it anymore for either mac or windows

[glacial pond]

if i downgraded my Apple TV to 5.3, is there another tool i could use instead?

[desert hawk]

snowbreeze might still work if u can find a copy of it

[glacial pond]

ok ill try looking for that

[desert hawk]

i dont think sn0w hosts any of that stuff anymore

i could be wrong tho

i think you are going to be extremely underwhelmed at end result after going through all this effort. a jailbroken atv 1 has more usefulness and value then 2nd or 3rd gen imo.

just trying to calibrate expectations. the 2nd and 3rd gen just werent good lol.

[glacial pond]

ok

[fleet parcel]

@glacial pond what's the model number on the bottom of the apple tv?

[glacial pond]

a1378

[fleet parcel]

and what's the connection from your puter to your apple tv look like?

by that i mean: power cord in and usb? or just usb?

[glacial pond]

just micro usb

[fleet parcel]

plug in the power cord too

what worked for me was both cables were plugged in

[desert hawk]

yeh you do generally need both but those error messages dont line up with that particilar problem iirc. worth a shot tho

[fleet parcel]

If you're still getting that usb error, flush it out cleanly with iTunes, then wait a good few minutes for the device to boot, then re-attempt seas0nspass

also, experiment with swapping around ports on your PC.. perhaps give it a reboot

[desert hawk]

diff usb cable wouldnt hurt as well if thats an option

[glacial pond]

yeah im still having that problem

iTunes also crashes as soon as seas0npass finds the Apple TV in dfu

ive tried restarting, a different usb cable and plugging the power cord into the Apple TV

[desert hawk]

@glacial pond yeh id try and find sn0wbreeze to see if that still works.

seas0npass seems like a dead end here

[glacial pond]

i have to go somewhere rn, so when i get back ill try sn0wbreeze and let you know what happens

[desert hawk]

k

i asked sn0w if he still hosts it anywhere or if its still avail. im sure u can find downloads but ideally getting it from him if he still has any sites up with it would be ideal

https://ih8sn0w.com

should still be on there @glacial pond

[fleet parcel]

@glacial pond also, what vers of Seas0nsPass are you using? I had to use one of the old versions seeing as the newest has problems

[desert hawk]

thats interesting, where did u even find old copies?

[fleet parcel]

Firec0res github

[desert hawk]

i dont even know where to get old copies 🤣 really? huh i didnt realize old copies are still there

[fleet parcel]

https://github.com/firecore/Seas0nPass-Windows/releases

[desert hawk]

oh for windows, got it

[fleet parcel]

and mac https://github.com/firecore/Seas0nPass/releases

[desert hawk]

ugh github mobile is such garbage i couldnt even find that section

although id be shocked if old versions work at all on mac

[fleet parcel]

they do, but they have slight issues with little things

[desert hawk]

without the translocation code i added in last release gettibg it to setuid in sierra+ is straight up broken

[glacial pond]

0.9.6

or whatever the latest is for windows

[fleet parcel]

hold on, i'll tell you what vers i'm using

[desert hawk]

https://github.com/firecore/Seas0nPass/commit/a7a1537d7365098cfadc1c965180241ea9f04e64

[fleet parcel]

I'm running 0.9.6 too (guess not the old vers) but itunes is 11.4.0.18 @glacial pond

[glacial pond]

i forgot what itunes version i was using, but when i get back home ill try using that itunes version

but i remember it was 11.something

[umbral ingot]

Almost got it the way I want it!

[fleet parcel]

I'd get rid of New Value:

[umbral ingot]

I would too but users probably would complain

and be confused

[fleet parcel]

and if you changed it to "Great Value" so would Walmart

[umbral ingot]

Funny since I sell phones in Walmart lol

[fleet parcel]

yeah, that was the irony I was poking at

[desert hawk]

lol

[atomic snow]

Hello @desert hawk did you found something about the problem i got with provenance and the xbox controller?

[desert hawk]

@atomic snow i think i need to build provenance with tvOS 14 sdk, which ill hopefully find some time to do today. theres some incredibly stupid issue with tvOS 14 and stuff that isnt built with their 14 SDK where it doesnt handle menu properly AT ALL.

im fairly certain thats exactly whats happening cuz ive experienced it in some of my apps as well when messing around with certain things related to remote commands

cuz B == menu as far as they are concerned and its not redirecting those commands properly

[atomic snow]

Oh if you need to fix something in the app then just take your time, i dont wanna bother you

[desert hawk]

no i dont actually need to modify the app at all

its literally just building it with a different SDK

BUT buidling provenance is a HUGE hassle

building*

it uses both carthage and cocopods and has like 8 kajillion dependencies

and a really fragile build process

i'll still give it a shot but i still cant update anything on my repos right now because im in the middle of a server migration

so everything is frozen in the meantime

[atomic snow]

idk what all that means but sounds complex. Well so I'll just wait until you get some time to fix that, and i wanna say thanks for all this help (pd. I'm Mexican so i'm sorry if my english is bad)

[desert hawk]

@atomic snow typically building most things i do build for all of this work aren't super complex, provenance isnt even really complex its just time consuming and a PITA to setup a build system for. i've built it before im hoping i can just build it again with newer sdks etc and be okay. we'll find out either way haha

[glacial pond]

this happens when i try to restore to the the .ipsw that sn0wbreeze made

also on the ipsw downloader, the versions only go to 5.2. my Apple TV is running 5.3 (ios 6.1.4)

[fleet parcel]

yeah.. sn0wbreeze may not work seeing as Apple's not signing the firmware @glacial pond

[glacial pond]

oh wait

yeah

[desert hawk]

starting provenance build at 6:43 PM lets see how long it takes and if it succeeds on the first try lol

[glacial pond]

is there anything else i could do with sn0wbreeze or another jb tweak or should i just concede on this

[desert hawk]

@glacial pond nothing about the jailbreak is exciting enough for this much effort IMO

just succeeding to jailbreak after so much effort will likely be much more exhilerating then the jailbreak itself

[glacial pond]

ig ill just stop trying to jb this

i might end up just getting an atv 4th gen but idk :/

i appreciate your help!

[desert hawk]

no problem! sorry we couldn't get it working 😦 its just tough with things that old.

you'll be MUCH happier with a 4th gen jailbroken than a 2nd

[fleet parcel]

@glacial pond did you restore via itunes?

[glacial pond]

yeah i tried that

[fleet parcel]

like with a clean ipsw?

no custom?

[scenic haven]

heyo - is #etason the only jailbreak for an apple TV 3rd gen?

and since that ipsw is now unsigned - I am guessing I can't jb my old atv3?

[desert hawk]

oh man, the only reason stuff was broken on 14 for ethereal was entitlement based (re playback) gfdi lol

so much time wasted

[earnest flower]

@desert hawk any advice for me if I already upgraded my tv 3g to 8.4.4?

[fleet parcel]

@earnest flower you can't downgrade

jailbreaks only compat with 8.4.3

[fleet parcel]

correct

[earnest flower]

Well I have another. I’ll have to see if that’s been updated lol

[jaunty rune]

@fleet parcel littens repo workin? Still no packages for me

[fleet parcel]

refresh sources

[jaunty rune]

Have

“Refresh data”

[fleet parcel]

delete, add manually

[jaunty rune]

Alright ill try again

Got it

[desert hawk]

got a slider working as a transport bar in ethereal now 🙂

[umbral ingot]

Nice!

Ok @jaunty rune I just updated HideMyDockTV on my repo @fleet parcel here's the deb https://github.com/ToxicAppl3Inc/toxicappl3inc.github.io/blob/master/tvrepo/com.ikilledappl3.hidemydocktv_1.1-1_appletvos-arm64.deb for you to update it on yours.

I'm just glad that I can use @desert hawk 's KBSlider in more tweaks now that I figured out to implement it

[jaunty rune]

@umbral ingot awesome! Works great man. Glad it led to you figuring out other things, thats always cool. Thanks for the hard work

[umbral ingot]

You’re welcome glad I could make your idea a reality. Enjoy man

[jaunty rune]

Uploading a vid. Takes forever

[umbral ingot]

I know

What I recommend is using a tool like handbrake to convert the video. It shrinks the size

9/10 that is

[jaunty rune]

Yah im just using my phone

[umbral ingot]

I see in that case not much you can do

[jaunty rune]

Lol just playing the waiting game

Half way there lol

[umbral ingot]

Patience young padawan

[jaunty rune]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-star-wars-sad-crying-skywalker-gif-12607558

Looks great!

[umbral ingot]

That’s sick

[jaunty rune]

Lol yah just messin around

[umbral ingot]

Did you change the snowflakes to matrix code?

Because I might actually add that if so

It looks dope man

Or at least a way to get custom images loading into SnowyTV

I think that would make so many people happy lol

[jaunty rune]

Hah yah that part took forever since im just using my phone had to find a japanese symbol and edit it online to look like the matrix code

[umbral ingot]

Nice 👍🏻

Great work

Send me the png sometime

[jaunty rune]

Im prob gonna add in the raining code to the video at the end or at least the part when he first sees in code

https://tenor.com/view/the-matrix-matrix-matrix-vision-code-the-one-gif-4011231

[umbral ingot]

Yeah that’s awesome

I’ll look into adding a custom image option

That way you won’t have to change the image manually everytime

You’ll just airdrop it and the tweak will handle the rest

Once I get it implemented that is

[jaunty rune]

Haha yah ive been doing that since early last year and then firework pngs for the fourth

[umbral ingot]

I’m also gonna work with Litteen or (however you spell her name) on Ballet that way users don’t have the SCP to change the wallpapers

Just airdrop instead

[jaunty rune]

Yah i figured yall would help her implement airdrop

But yah airdrop for snowy would be awesome too!

[umbral ingot]

I’ll look into it for you

Been wanting to re-write the tweak a bit anyhow

[jaunty rune]

Just call me the catalyst

[umbral ingot]

We don’t talk about catalyst here lol 😂

Jk

No but I appreciate y’a using my tweaks

[jaunty rune]

Appreciate you making em and at my behest lol essentially

Srsly thanks

[umbral ingot]

You’re welcome man

[jaunty rune]

Now custom times for big ben.. go

Lol jp... not pushing my luck

[desert hawk]

okay provenance built with 14 SDK with latest changes pulled from their repo - once my transition is done ill update the package. i have to verify that problem is gone but it definitely should be. @atomic snow

[jaunty rune]

@desert hawk nice been wanting to play n64

[desert hawk]

it still needs a lot of polish, but the basics of it work

okay time for sleep lol

[jaunty rune]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-puzzled-umm-uhh-speechless-gif-12582727

[atomic snow]

Wow that was fast, thx bro I really appreciate this

[desert hawk]

now it works more like a regular one 🙂

[astral marten]

@fleet parcel

Lol

[fleet parcel]

just haaaaad to be rick and morty. Well, I guess that's better than Chapelle

@desert hawk does tvOS not have a native video scrubber? much like YouTube/Netflix?

[astral marten]

I had restore

It won’t boot

[fleet parcel]

not surprising

[astral marten]

@fleet parcel

[fleet parcel]

ok?

what vers tho @astral marten

[astral marten]

Lowest possible

So like 6.1?

Or 5.2

[fleet parcel]

bet its tethered

[astral marten]

It is

[fleet parcel]

oof

[astral marten]

Took me 10 tries to boot it

[fleet parcel]

why 10?

[astral marten]

Kept on failing

God damn

@desert hawk are you good with the atv2 though?

[atomic snow]

Is that a theme for actual Apple TV’s

[astral marten]

no

thats atv on 5.2

the atv 3,2

[atomic snow]

I would like to se a theme like that one on actual Apple TV

[desert hawk]

@fleet parcel what is wrong with chappelle?????

hes the funniest goddamn man alive, show some respect!

also i literally dont care at all about the 2nd gen, tbh im getting tired of hearing about it lately

[astral marten]

hmm

lol

[fleet parcel]

I mean; sure he's funny

[desert hawk]

what is your beef with him

[fleet parcel]

no beef.. just doesn't tickle the funny bone as much imo

[desert hawk]

ugh why did my message not show up just now

to answer your question no theres no public component like the scrubber. we didnt even have a slider. and i saw someone mention they would like this kind of functionality as an open issue on the swift version i ported from and i thought ethereal could use one too, so might as well as im fixing that anyways @fleet parcel

[fleet parcel]

ah

[desert hawk]

and re chappelle: fair enough, different stroke

strokes*

etc

[fleet parcel]

[umbral ingot]

https://twitter.com/mtac8/status/1353797329137098756?s=21

MTAC (@MTAC8)

https://t.co/OgoKxo7vj6

Twitter · Jan 25, 2021, 8:10 PM

Mtac managed to get the time on the home screen

[fleet parcel]

I don't get why tbh, seems a tad redundant.. also, wouldn't the clock overlap?

[umbral ingot]

Probably

I have yet to ask

[analog elk]

https://mtac.app/
he really registered an .app domain for a personal website lol

[fleet parcel]

unless you kill the clock from the CC to make space for toggles and have it where it's on pineboard (on the video UI and behind the apps) then that'll work

[umbral ingot]

I see where you’re getting at

[desert hawk]

im still happy i snagged nito.tv pretty solid domain there for how late i got it lol

[fleet parcel]

just as a meme, i'd make a subsite called neatoe.tv

[umbral ingot]

Nightoe

[desert hawk]

we need a whole new panel of stuff up there that calls back to the old school weather in the main menu kind of shit

[umbral ingot]

That is more of the meme

[umbral ingot]

I’ve been looking into something like that but have yet to figure out how to implement it

[desert hawk]

yeh ppl looooooove to say nightoe - eventho its definitely neato

[fleet parcel]

also, i had a suggestion for tvsettingsPrefs... perhaps custom background pictures? or maybe in-toggle ui photos, colors?

[umbral ingot]

I feel you.... people always say iKilledApple 3 for me

Even tho it’s just iKilledApple

[desert hawk]

@fleet parcel i think should add issues/enhancement to the repo - of course can mention here but ill forget it if i dont do it right away

ppl say it specifically to get a rise out of me or its literally their nickname for me in spite of it.

(the github repo that is)

i worked for too long on that and applist related stuff and dont want to get sucked back in. i think emulator stuff needs attention from me pretty bad and since i just did provenance (which i will upload as soon as my server transition is complete) ill probably try and get retroarch up to snuff too next and then work on a new personal sekrit iOS project.

hence why im saying its best to open issue and label it as an enhancement on github re prefloader

[umbral ingot]

I’ll believe when I see it https://www.iphonehacks.com/2021/01/tvos-15-feature-major-redesign-powerful-apple-tv-refresh.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

[jaunty rune]

Wait wait... neat-o not night-o?? 🤯

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-gif-8493404

https://tenor.com/view/shower-heater-funny-gif-3568403

[desert hawk]

lol

you'll be okay i forgive you

@atomic snow the provenance file is too big to share on here but i can send you an early version of ethereal to test that has those issues fixed while my servers are migrating

where the other framework for stuff like mkv is working again

or i guess if anyone else is interested in testing it out

[jaunty rune]

Ooo i like testing things

[desert hawk]

go nuts

all that is different is that framework works again for files apple doesnt support and i added that updated KBSlider with the transport slider mode

scrubbing through the video is still very rough around the edges, it'll be smoother if u pause then scrub back and forth

itll literally play garbled sped up audio when you are scanning otherwise lol

but its better than what it had before, even before that framework was 'broken' in 14 (missing new entitlements)

because before there was no slider to scroll through the video at all

u could just speed up and slow down the speed of playback at most in that part

its not bad for a day or so of work on it but it definitely still needs work.

[jaunty rune]

Yah sounds like alot good job. Ill test after i eat

https://tenor.com/view/yum-grr-ugh-jim-carrey-ace-ventura-gif-4580259

[desert hawk]

and sorry if im rude about the legacy stuff right now, had a rough weak and really easily irritable

[desert hawk]

better for the most part now fho.

[jaunty rune]

Good to hear man

[desert hawk]

@umbral ingot @fleet parcel not sure how much this matters to you but awkwatdtv wiki will be gettng massive overhaul and im going to work on some kind of cross integration with ios wikis during this migration where others can actually edit and such too

just figured id mention

trying to keep that wiki alive cuz its still the central appletv hub of info id record

[desert hawk]

the best thing about most of my problems is they are self inflicted, they always heal with adequate time

haha

[fleet parcel]

Wouldn't mind an account

[desert hawk]

yeh youll def have one and hopefully with the updates were doing u can make it yourself haha

still WIP

[fleet parcel]

Take your time

[desert hawk]

oh we are

[fleet parcel]

Even if it means going to a bar girls house

[desert hawk]

dustin isnt kicking us off immediately but hes done hosting things so im moving off as quickly and safely as i can

but thats long overdue

that being said, im still open to potentially helping host your repo to make it faster. we’ll figure it all out after post migration dust settles

youd still be able to update it yourself without me of course

[fleet parcel]

Ah cool

[desert hawk]

which would be the whole poinf

no promises yet i havent broached it yet with jaywalker but it should just be an account and ssh keys and doneski lol

so we’ll see

[fleet parcel]

Just make sure to ask him when he doesn't have the grenade launcher on-hand in case things go wayward

[desert hawk]

lol well he’ll keep you quarintined properly

you wont be able to break anything

again none of this is set in stone but we need faster speeds on your repo is the bottom line haha

[fleet parcel]

Yeah- even being in quarantine, there's still too much to do with little time

[desert hawk]

and this stuff is so fucking cheap and ill have 55 GB total in my instance i think i can manage whatever footstep your repo has

@fleet parcel itll be no different is the point

except faster

[fleet parcel]

My footstep is /maybe/ less than 10 gb

[desert hawk]

the amount of time you spend isnt mandated anywhere

its at your leisure

im just trying to make the all around experience bettee

better

@fleet parcel never feel obligated is my take away on this haha

[fleet parcel]

You know i still am..

It's my job

[desert hawk]

you get what im saying tho

please dont ever feel pressure to put in more time than you can afford to

[fleet parcel]

Ooh i know, but the Sheldon Cooper within will state otherwise

[desert hawk]

haha i cant help you there hombre

im old as fuck and i still cant moderate anything at all in any facet

[jaunty rune]

@desert hawk hmm tested ethereal and still getting failed to find applications

Ive obviously done something wrong lol the app wont even open

[atomic snow]

Oh you also managed to get mkv files on ethereal, wow you are amazing bro, then what do I do with provenance?

[desert hawk]

@atomic snow just wait on Provenance itll be on my repo in next few daya

days

@jaunty rune and you have restarted PineBoard? sometimes Breezy just doesnt get injected fot some reason

the biggest culprit when you dont get an alert at all is the PineBoard injection

[jaunty rune]

Whats the correct way to install it?

[desert hawk]

its not about how its installed

[jaunty rune]

I just think i failed at that step

[desert hawk]

its a dependency for nitoTV. but things will still generally run and work outside of airdrop if Breezy doesnt get injected to PineBoard

if nitoTV is installed Breezy pretty much has to be there. you didnt answer if youve simply tried killall -9 PineBoard

if you arent getting AirDrop alerts PineBoard is either in safemode, there was a misfire or something just didnt load.

[jaunty rune]

I deleted ethereal. Have to reinstall it. Am i supposed to be able to just airdrop?

I did it over ssh first

[desert hawk]

deleting ethereal shouldnt affect anything either way

breezy supplys airdrop and ethereal uses breezy

[jaunty rune]

Im just having a problem installing the deb i believe

[desert hawk]

so ssh in and type “killall -9 PineBoard” and try airdropping the deb again

cuz unless i broke something in nitoTV recently airdropping debs should work

[jaunty rune]

Yah im getting failed to find applications

But maybe its just me. Vlc isnt recognized when airdropping mkv either

@desert hawk yah airdropping the deb isnt workin for me

[desert hawk]

ohhh ok failed to find app is different

i misunderstood. yeh sounds like your launchservices db is janky then, thats harder to fix

@jaunty rune try running rmcache ; sbreload : uicache and pray haha

i /think/ rmcache is still a thing

afk atm

[jaunty rune]

Lol dang. Yah figured it was on my end somehow

[desert hawk]

i already hardcode some nitoTV supported files i should just do the same with debs

since i can, lol

that wasnt always an option

[jaunty rune]

Whats rmcache do lol besides obvious

I guess i mean where does it remove files from. Just makin sure doesnt delete my roms in Caches/retroarch lol. Im sure its totally diff but have to make sure

[fleet parcel]

and I thought I asked a lot of Qs

[jaunty rune]

Better to ask ?s than kicking my ass later for having not

Also technically i only see three questions... is that alot? Lol

[jaunty rune]

Also also That rhymed

[umbral ingot]

@jaunty rune https://twitter.com/iKilledAppl3/status/1353949003042484227?s=20

J.K. Hayslip (iKilled) (@iKilledAppl3)

Kinda poked around with #Ballet by @Litteeen and added the ability to use AirPhoto and Ethereal for the photos and videos. I submitted a pull request hoping it gets pushed. https://t.co/4hYgSZQ4jz

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jan 26, 2021, 6:12 AM

It's like I don't have anything else better to do

[fleet parcel]

@umbral ingot it prolly won't get pushed

She hates PR

[umbral ingot]

@jaunty rune use this until then

[umbral ingot]

I know she does but it had to be done

[fleet parcel]

Ngl, was currently working on it..

Ooh well, more free time

[umbral ingot]

Sorry @fleet parcel

[jaunty rune]

@umbral ingot nice work... if only i could airdrop debs

[umbral ingot]

you can

[fleet parcel]

Meh.. NitoTV is finicky on that..

[jaunty rune]

Naw my machine is acting up

[umbral ingot]

true

[fleet parcel]

When you airdrop them.. Nito opens, then it's like.. Bruh

[umbral ingot]

The funny thing is I was working on a similar tweak until she pushed this one lol.

Just glad that's one less thing I have to worry about

[fleet parcel]

I'll admit, she did well on the animated preference colors

[umbral ingot]

sure did that's sick

and her respring blur is so much better than mine

lol

[fleet parcel]

I'm working on a tv respring animation

[umbral ingot]

heck yeah man

She's way better than me by a long shot. The irony behind it is I helped her get setup in the tweak development game. I always tell her she's a way better than developer than me. Keeps me striving to do better.

[fleet parcel]

I don't think anyone can be "better" than anyone.. Maybe more informed

If we all had the knowledge to possess such talents.. We'd all be equal

[umbral ingot]

True that man

Gotta be humble and willing to strive to do better

[jaunty rune]

To troubleshoot without asking questions.... hmm

[fleet parcel]

Why'd you close it @umbral ingot

[umbral ingot]

I screwed up on something

[fleet parcel]

Oof

[umbral ingot]

her fancy prefs were broken because I'm an idiot lol

[fleet parcel]

Wen eta video/pic example windows inside prefs

[umbral ingot]

I'm working on it

Won't be too hard actually

@jaunty rune use this one instead oof

[jaunty rune]

@umbral ingot would if i could. Unless theres a way other than airdrop, though i tried earlier with no success

[umbral ingot]

is your iPhone or iPad jailbroken? @jaunty rune

if you have an iPad that is

[jaunty rune]

Phone yah

[umbral ingot]

might be able to scp it to the apple tv and ssh to install it using an app

"Theoretically"

a terminal app that is

[jaunty rune]

Yah i tried that with ethereal earlier installed but app was crashing

[umbral ingot]

oof

sorry to hear man

Hoping she pushes it

[jaunty rune]

Lol sall good

Im just hoping @fleet parcel takes this asking questions hex off me

[umbral ingot]

Dude if you don't ask questions then how are you supposed to know lol

[fleet parcel]

You can scp to and from a checkra1ned device via USB

[umbral ingot]

never knew about that

thanks for the info

[fleet parcel]

Yeah, just make sure you're set up with iproxy first

If you have a mac, you can use homebrew

[umbral ingot]

oh like the olden days

with a local ssh

[fleet parcel]

Then iproxy <whatever port> 44

Then scp -P <whatever port> file root@localhost:/

To transfer from device to mac: scp -P <whatever port> root@localhost:/file dir/

[desert hawk]

im glad another talented dev is showing interest in the platform 👍💯

[fleet parcel]

how's val?

[desert hawk]

@umbral ingot btw i made some updates to kbslider if you were still planning on doing a MR still

@fleet parcel good, just tried to rip my arm off, now eating the food i buy for her instead 🤣

[fleet parcel]

are you giving her bacon?

[desert hawk]

lol no if i cant enjoy the taste of bacon right now she def cant have any either

[jaunty rune]

@desert hawk is it weird that when airdropping, vlc only shows when ethereal is installed?

[umbral ingot]

reinstall Ethereal

[umbral ingot]

I honestly didn't do too much the only thing I did is mess with it on my when i added it to my view. I kinda gave the "blur effect" that Apple uses for their sliders in accessibility settings. I will most likely add it to KBSlider itself that way we can have that option

and submit a MR

[desert hawk]

@jaunty rune no bc vlc piggybacks off of ethereals settings

[jaunty rune]

Ok making sure didnt have to do with whatever issue im experiencing

[desert hawk]

@umbral ingot thats what i meant for you to do, update kbslider and make an mr, keeping in mind i just updated it

so you may need to rebase your changes dependinf on what you do

[umbral ingot]

ok man

thanks

nice work BTW

[desert hawk]

@jaunty rune nah it was my interesting solution to adding support to app store appa without directly modifying them

[umbral ingot]

That transport gonna come in handy once I add the ability to preview videos in preferences

👀

[desert hawk]

its called ”appMimicMap” @jaunty rune

@umbral ingot it still needs some polish but im really happy with the start

it could be prone to loops if you arent careful so its a bit of a minefield at the moment

[umbral ingot]

Noted

thanks

[desert hawk]

i need to make some architectural changes after i give it more thought to remove that possability

basically try to mostly avoid calling setValue:animated from anything related to doing setDuration. cuz one calls the other but its predicated on calling public methods vs ivars

so if both are called in a certain way thats where its prone to an infinite loop

[jaunty rune]

its called ”appMimicMap” @jaunty rune
@desert hawk nice solution for sure. So yah im only havin issues with mkv and deb so far. Mp4/mov work fine

[umbral ingot]

deb isn't supported by Ethereal

but nitoTV is supposed to install it

[jaunty rune]

Ah yah i was only speaking ethereal for the mkv

[umbral ingot]

I was trying to find where it's cached or if it was

[jaunty rune]

But just having same issue with airdrop and failed to find app

[umbral ingot]

that way you could just dpkg -i the file

[jaunty rune]

Yah i did that earlier im guessing from the wrong location

It's like I don't have anything else better to do
@umbral ingot lol just noticed this... nice

[fleet parcel]

Why can't pineboard/runningboard/preboard/headboard be condensed like springboard

[umbral ingot]

Because Apple

[astral marten]

True

I can either do a ramdisk method

Or something else

(I have someone in dms helping)

[desert hawk]

while there are definitely too many boards one monolithic one would be far worse in practice and maintenance imo

[astral marten]

Also true

[desert hawk]

modular code ftw

[astral marten]

I could see that being hell

[desert hawk]

ill be the first to bitch about too many boards. deciphering how documents are opened in a particular app for breezy was a special level of hell

but even SpringBoard has been split into multiple parts / frameworks on iOS end in either 13 or 14 i presume for reasons related to monolithic comment above

in this area: https://github.com/lechium/Breezy/blob/master/Breezy.xm#L652 although i guess it is mainly just pineboard and frontboard.

[astral marten]

I mean I feel like getting a new tv

Idk what to get

4K?

Hd?

I’ll just hook it up to an raspberry pi so I can just go into dfu mode to boot jailbroken

@desert hawk raspberry pi works with the atv right?

For running checkra1n

[desert hawk]

@astral marten its supposed to, i never did get it working with that setup but if you go 4k youll need extra cables / hardware to jailbreak it either way.

[astral marten]

I mean I have it working with my iPhone X

I just need to updated the version on my pi since it’s 10 or something

[desert hawk]

either hd or 4k is fine. yeh if u have it working already then you should be good with the same pi to work to an appletv

[astral marten]

Ooh

[desert hawk]

but yeh youll need dcsd and goldeneye or a breakout board with the 4k to jailbreak it

[astral marten]

Well Ik that

[desert hawk]

so thats really the biggest factor that makes a difference and why i dont push heavily in either devices direction re: HD vs 4k

that part is up to how much extra stuff you are willing to buy and wait for

[astral marten]

I would only need the breakout board though

?

If it requires a cable

I most likely have one

[desert hawk]

yeh either or, but i have no idea how far backordered those are and you have to disassemble and solder

[astral marten]

I had to solder the host shield for the arduino

[desert hawk]

you might have a DCSD already, theres a zero percent chance youd have a goldeneye or any other cable like one id u didbt buy it already

[astral marten]

Also we have tools to take apart Apple products

So

[desert hawk]

im just saying, i dont solder so i dont ever push in that direction.

[astral marten]

Lol

[desert hawk]

im just making sure i give all the details. im not inferring anything about what u have or are capable of

[astral marten]

Hmm

[desert hawk]

but getting a 4th gen or a 4k is a step in right direction. nothing but pain and disappointment will yield from any older appletvs

[astral marten]

I mean

As long as the back don’t look this bad

[desert hawk]

they arent even heavy enought to be a good paperweight or doorstop

i know youve been painfully working on making one useful. lol

hence my comment

[astral marten]

Eh

I mean I just wanted to try to downgrade

Maybe get a jailbreak

I had nothing better to do

Lol

[desert hawk]

i hear ya, but that jailbreak is ostensibly useless. just getting it jailbroken successfully wouldve been 1000x more exciting.

i heavily considered not migrating that part of my old servers and dropping running them altogether. but since ppl still seem to use it im begrudingly migrating it

but as soon as my new server runs low on space atv2/3 repos will be first on the chopping block for certain

[astral marten]

Lol

[desert hawk]

i mean the 5.3 is significantly better than the 6.2.1 jailbreak but neither one is worth ANY of the effort required at all.

[astral marten]

@desert hawk someone else is already working on the jailbreak

[desert hawk]

the 6.2.1 one is super buggy and has bad patches. but i never made the patches that was always ih8sn0w and neither of us cares enough or has time to fix it

godspeed if they have the time to waste lol

[astral marten]

Untethers for some

[desert hawk]

they just arent good devices. hardware or software

theyre going to be severely disappointed if they try to make any of those old untethers work from absinthe et al

[astral marten]

I mean https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Firmware_Keys/7.x

[desert hawk]

if they were compatible i wouldve used them

i had access to all of those and the ppl who wrote / implemented them

appletv is flat out missing services that they required to work

[astral marten]

Lol

Isn’t 5.3 very similar to iOS?

[desert hawk]

im talking hardware. and no

[astral marten]

Like why does it have battery glyph component

It’s a fucking tv

Lol

[desert hawk]

not similar at all as far as how the OS works

its one app and everything runs as a plugin inside of it

if one dies they all die

irs utter garbage

[astral marten]

Yeah I saw that

Apple TV app

[desert hawk]

and the lack of memory makes it even more maddening to work with. low memory crashes daily. its a miracle firecore made any money selling software for it

there isnt enough money in the world for me to care about anything below the 4 ever again lol.

if the tooling to get it working wasnt so outdated and horribly broken id be less apprehensive about saying try it and see if u actually find value

[astral marten]

Yeah public tools

[desert hawk]

damn 21 cores failed to build for retroarch just now 😦 that makes me sad

[astral marten]

But private tools

[desert hawk]

i doubt anyone is hoarding private tools for stuff this old/useless lofl

[astral marten]

It’s stuff that also supports the atv

Just like checkm8_bootkit

This wouldn’t even be possible without it

[desert hawk]

yeh, i mean ppl have even mentioned to me how easy itd be for us to create something newer to work again and i said “have fun” my todo list is way too insanely long to ever have time for that kind of endeavor

[astral marten]

I mean I got most of my help from people who work with iOS

[desert hawk]

well i mean the fundamentals for doing the actual restore / jailbreak arent any different, that shouldnt be surprising or noteworthy 😉

[astral marten]

Yeah

[desert hawk]

very very very few ppl are appletv experts, theres just a huge amount of low level knowledge that will always be applicable to both.

i mean checkra1n doesnt do much different on an appletv or iphone until it reaches the absolute final stage of the jailbreak (minus dfu prep of course)

[astral marten]

Yeah

Because I don’t think the newer TVs go straight into recovery when plugged in?

[desert hawk]

gotta love waiting 4 hours on a build for 51/71 success rate

remote cant get it in dfu

whereas dfu on the rest of applicable appletv devices is identical

you CAN get into recovery without a goldeneye or breakout but good luck kicking it out of recovery (the 4k)

[jaunty rune]

gotta love waiting 4 hours on a build for 51/71 success rate
@desert hawk RetroArch? Ouch

[desert hawk]

oops i built for iOS instead of tvOS by accident so that was wasted effort anyways

time to restart it and probably try to get some sleep for once lol

[jaunty rune]

Least you wont have to wait while you sleep

[desert hawk]

yeh im wondering it i shouldve changed xcodes or to an older sdk to see if i get less failures.

or maybe just changing to tvos will magically have less. who knows? haha

[jaunty rune]

Hopefully its just magic

[desert hawk]

lol as i shouldve expected it did even worse 🤣🤣

only 46 succeeded

so this time retroarch is the PITA instead of provenance. typical 🤣

[astral marten]

@desert hawk lmaooo

Designers be quick af to respond

Lol

[desert hawk]

haha

im disappointed he cant find anything he finds interesting. he couldnt have tried very hard

[umbral ingot]

IKR?

Looks like tvOS still isn’t getting the traction it deserves

[fleet parcel]

Or doom/quake

[umbral ingot]

This is true

[fleet parcel]

I know the idea seems old and recycled.. But slaying demons on the big screen is a plus

[desert hawk]

is unfortunate because its significantly more interesting than iOS

[fleet parcel]

Except for headboard/pineboard/preboard/surfboard/cardboard

[desert hawk]

board all the boards

you do realize ios has almost as many, right? pineboard/heasboard are pretty much the only boards exclusive to tvos. and since they have springboard instead were only like 1/2 boards ahead tops

[fleet parcel]

IOS has it all condensed though

[desert hawk]

no it doesnt

lol

[fleet parcel]

You don't see bullitens in iOS

Nor account switching

[desert hawk]

what does this have to do with boards? its pretty much pineboard+headboard=springboard

[fleet parcel]

I know that, but the majority of tweak hooking on iOS for the front line is springboard

Whereas with tvOS, you gotta hook differently

[desert hawk]

and as i said last night, monolithic code is bad. the maintenance of PB/HB is probably a lot less daunting and painful that SpringBoard

and even in 13/14 they started splitting SpringBoard into more frameworks and components

probably for that very reason

but i will agree there are too many fucking boards with overlapping and duplicate functionality. pine/head/pre/back/splash/front and then all with associated services, frameworks/daemons etc.

[analog elk]

@desert hawk i got on the vim train

[desert hawk]

@analog elk nice!! good job 👍👍

[fleet parcel]

form no-shave to bun

[analog elk]

neovim https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781041045760770049/803696274410569758/unknown.png

[analog elk]

just call me fabio the yoga instructor

[fleet parcel]

imma call you man-bun

[analog elk]

aight

[desert hawk]

lol

[desert hawk]

@analog elk what made you finally jump on the vim train? and im glad you did and am sure you are lovin it haha

[fleet parcel]

nano > *

It was the nude dm pics that did it.. Isn't it

[desert hawk]

sound reasoning haha

[analog elk]

Ive got user access to the university’s computer science server for projects and such so i decided i wanted to learn vim to be more productive than nano

[desert hawk]

ah nice

[desert hawk]

hey @jaunty rune i think i might know why your deb files arent getting accepted by nitoTV

[jaunty rune]

Oh??

[desert hawk]

you are working on a mac right? @jaunty rune

[jaunty rune]

No

[desert hawk]

well you cant test my theory then, nm. how are you airdropping these files to begin with then?

[fleet parcel]

Probably mac vm

[jaunty rune]

Iphone

[desert hawk]

ah

well either way this is what appears to be the problem

the kMDItemContentType is some completely weird ass value that apparently is difficult to register for (that i didnt even know about/remember)

until now when messing with it again

kMDItemContentTypeTree             = (
    "public.item",
    "dyn.ah62d4rv4ge80k3pc",
    "public.data"
)```

and this is how launch services et al figure out where an app is to open

for some reason all of my deb files appear to have this particular contentType now

and nitoTV isnt currently registered for that type, so without casting some extremely wide and permissive net (as they appear to now in retroarch) the application wont register for that particular file type

[jaunty rune]

Have a mac vm but cant airplay so cant test. But least u found the issue though seems like a hassle maybe

[desert hawk]

it just means if i want to catch some files that i usually dont i might have to cast the same kind of wide net and then just passively ignore file types that i dont support, OR pop up an alert inside nitoTV to say "unknown file type or something"

[jaunty rune]

Ah

[desert hawk]

but this has been a pervasive issue for a long time and this is probably my best out - i tried to register for this bizarre type and it doesnt appear to allow me

and since i installed this version of retroarch i just built and it has these types accepted CFBundleDocumentTypes = ( { CFBundleTypeName = "All Files"; LSItemContentTypes = ( "public.data", "public.content" ); } );

the debs are automatically directing there instead of nitoTV for me as well haha. shows you how long its been since i tested this deb stuff personally

and for you they are directing no where cuz you dont have any apps installed that say "support all files"

and for those its IS working for their debs are properly getting proper metatags that match what i AM normally looking for which is either org.debian.deb-archive or com.nito.deb

and it DID work for me once upon a time, but i honestly have no idea the last time i tested this

but i just listed my entire deb folder that is on the nitosoft repo and every single solitary one had dyn.ah62d4rv4ge80k3pc