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ionic copper Jan 10, 2024, 7:42 AM

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then hold down the options key and click restore

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it's on the left side

quiet sedge Jan 10, 2024, 7:44 AM

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i dont see it in finder is the problem

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not sure why i tried two different cables

ionic copper Jan 10, 2024, 7:45 AM

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quiet sedge i dont see it in finder is the problem

hold down menu and play/pause button on siri remote until light rapidly flashes

quiet sedge Jan 10, 2024, 7:47 AM

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it rebooted but still nothing

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let me try on my windows computer

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this macbook is an antic

ionic copper Jan 10, 2024, 7:50 AM

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quiet sedge it rebooted but still nothing

menu and play/pause button.. hold them both for 7 seconds

quiet sedge Jan 10, 2024, 7:51 AM

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let me try that

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i wonder if something is wrong with the usb-c port or something

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its not finding anything

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seems odd

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might reset it

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mayber it needs to be usb-c to usb-c

vale yoke Jan 10, 2024, 5:29 PM

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I wonder if it’s possible to do the same thing that Serotonin is doing on tvOS. If we just had TrollStore + tweak injection into springboard(?), that’s really all we would need for an Apple TV

stone crescent Jan 10, 2024, 6:44 PM

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Trollstore only would be amazing

ionic copper Jan 10, 2024, 6:46 PM

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vale yoke I wonder if it’s possible to do the same thing that Serotonin is doing on tvOS. ...

except you'd need to do more modifying

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seeing as tvOS doesn't have springboard

nocturne tendon Jan 10, 2024, 7:27 PM

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wait is this the latest apple tv 4k

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if you can restore to tvos 13 then that's crazy

ionic copper Jan 10, 2024, 7:44 PM

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nocturne tendon wait is this the latest apple tv 4k

no

nocturne tendon Jan 10, 2024, 7:44 PM

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oh

ionic copper Jan 10, 2024, 7:44 PM

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nocturne tendon if you can restore to tvos 13 then that's crazy

not gunna happen

nocturne tendon Jan 10, 2024, 7:44 PM

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rip

nocturne tendon Jan 10, 2024, 7:44 PM

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ionic copper not gunna happen

i thought apple forgot to unsign ota like they did with 8.4.1

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but nvm

vale yoke Jan 10, 2024, 9:43 PM

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Lmao this was just posted to my local marketplace. There goes yet another HomePod :/

ionic copper Jan 10, 2024, 9:59 PM

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vale yoke Lmao this was just posted to my local marketplace. There goes yet another HomePo...

the first ramdisk for homepod

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which could potentially fix it

vale yoke Jan 10, 2024, 10:24 PM

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Sweet. Is it specific to that one HomePod right now or would it work on any HomePod

ionic copper Jan 10, 2024, 10:29 PM

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vale yoke Sweet. Is it specific to that one HomePod right now or would it work on any Home...

ipsw in progress

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vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 12:24 AM

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That’s amazing. I’ve been jailbreaking since the iPhone 3G and I’ve always heard that creating an IPSW from an OTA update is impossible.

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I have so many questions but my brain is smoother than a chicken thigh 😞

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 12:32 AM

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In theory the right OTA has enough to make a full restore

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Not the small ones that are made to go from specific version to specific version

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Look at sizes on ipsw me

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And if you have keys to load unsigned firmware, boom

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 12:34 AM

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Yeah, but if you’re loading unsigned firmware like that, doesn’t that mean even if you restore it, you will have to tether boot it every time it reboots

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 12:35 AM

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Maybe, but also maybe if you load a slightly older OS you can properly update it to a signed release

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I’m just guessing I don’t really know

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 12:36 AM

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That was my original idea was to load an older OS and then do an OTA update to a signed version, but I don’t think that would work.

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 12:55 AM

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What's sad is Apple has (or knows who has) the ipsws yet, they won't release them for emergencies.

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Because if you think about it, during assembly; they'd have to flash the initial software in order to install anything...

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or it'll just be a cool-looking shiny and blinking toy

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 12:58 AM

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brazen niche I’m just guessing I don’t really know

but the volume buttons issue is coherent to the Apple TV's LED light (seeing as there's only one actual light present on Apple TVs) and with the homepods volume buttons slowly blinking is consistent with Apple TV's LED slowly blinking during bootloops

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 1:02 AM

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Has anyone successfully fixed an Apple TV with that problem?

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Or are those in the same situation as the HomePods and there’s no fix

spiral patio Jan 11, 2024, 1:04 AM

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AFAIK you can restore an Apple TV via DFU and a Mac, unless there’s some hard brick loop I don’t know about

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The HomePod issue is (until soon, maybe) permanent

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 1:06 AM

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spiral patio AFAIK you can restore an Apple TV via DFU and a Mac, unless there’s some hard br...

yes, if they have checkm8 processors (hd and 4k 1st gen)

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other ones like 2nd gen and 3rd gen 4k's, once bootlooped - dead forever unless Apple restores it OTA

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hd doesn't require checkm8 cause of public ipsws

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but 4k does

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 1:08 AM

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So the only thing that makes this possible is because of Checkm8. That makes sense then.

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 1:09 AM

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but to downgrade to unsigned firmwares like 14.x/15.x/16.x then checkm8 and blobs are required

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(for HD)

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 1:10 AM

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vale yoke Yeah, but if you’re loading unsigned firmware like that, doesn’t that mean even ...

But what about this? Since the IPSW you are building isn’t signed, it doesn’t boot normally, right?

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 1:11 AM

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vale yoke But what about this? Since the IPSW you are building isn’t signed, it doesn’t bo...

I'm building 17.2 ipsw (which is the latest and signed)

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because granted you fix the homepods on 13/14/15 and end up bootlooping (from updating assumingly), then it's back to square one

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makes no sense other than build from the latest and do a full facotry reset

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 1:13 AM

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So once 17.2 is no longer signed, you will have to create a new IPSW?

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 1:14 AM

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one could use the ramdisk to grab the on-board blobs and re-restore to its current version but it might bootloop again attempting to auto-update

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 1:14 AM

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vale yoke So once 17.2 is no longer signed, you will have to create a new IPSW?

indeed, but they shouldn't be too difficult to make.. that is, if Apple doesn't add more security

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 1:15 AM

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That’s where I’m lost. How are you reconstructing a full 17.2 signed IPSW from only a partial OTA file. Are you taking files from older versions?

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 1:17 AM

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vale yoke That’s where I’m lost. How are you reconstructing a full 17.2 signed IPSW from o...

no, the OTAs have compressed payload files. I'm simply extracting them to find the RestoreOS, patching the files to make it a pwned restore, then signing it with the latest blob. This should allow idevicerestore to unzip the ipsw and upload the ramdisk then send in the filesystem

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and with ibec/ibss decrypted with signature checks disabled, this allows checkm8 to pass the restore via pwnDFU

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issue I'm seeing is that the ibec/ibss are for tvOS 13.4.6.. so I don't know if this'll actually work to pass over a 17 restore

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theoretically; after the pwned restore is complete, the user can then simply reset all content and settings and that'll re-download/reinstall the OTA correctly

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thankfully no SSV on the homepod 😛

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 1:35 AM

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Damn, that’s cool. I understood… most of it lol. I’ll have to read up on this RestoreOS thing.

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 1:45 AM

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vale yoke Damn, that’s cool. I understood… most of it lol. I’ll have to read up on this Re...

I should say RecoveryOS which is like software purgatory

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:08 AM

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ionic copper thankfully no SSV on the homepod 😛

Apple assumed HomePods would be far less easily stolen / lost so they laxed the security lol

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Wonder if that’s changed in the 2nd gen

crisp crater Jan 11, 2024, 2:09 AM

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nobody ever steals a large cylinder

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:09 AM

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I need to get a second 2nd gen and do a Hugh Jeffry’s swap it all

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I mean it’s scary how much you can decrypt and see on a HomePod that wasn’t wiped. Mind boggling. Users are totally unaware of it too. And what if it breaks itself and you can’t restore it?? You are hosed unless you physically destroy it

https://blog.elcomsoft.com/2023/03/homepod-forensics-i-pwning-the-homepod/

ElcomSoft blog

HomePod Forensics I: Pwning the HomePod

In this article, we will discuss how to access the hidden port of the first-generation HomePod and extract its file system image. Note that this process requires disassembly, voids the HomePod warranty, and requires specific tools, including a custom 3D-printable USB adapter, a set of screws, and a

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@ionic copper if you haven’t read that trail of blog posts yet you might find something enlightening idk

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He gets user files off and decrypted

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:13 AM

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brazen niche He gets user files off and decrypted

the checkm8 exploit, pull and decrypt the keychain and extract the file system image. Did I mention you’ll need a Mac to run it? literall what we did with the keys 😛

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:14 AM

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Yep! Was hoping maybe we overlooked something

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:14 AM

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I mean; this is great granted you want to preserve user data, but the user data is corrupt thanks to the file system being half-installed

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:15 AM

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brazen niche Yep! Was hoping maybe we overlooked something

this does work with said ramdisk... but your mac isn't recognizing it 😛

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:17 AM

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I am unlucky :( “malfunction magnet”

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:22 AM

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brazen niche I am unlucky :( “malfunction magnet”

malfunction magnet on what

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unless that's another term for paperweight

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what i'd do is boot up high sierra on the intel mac and retry

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:24 AM

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It’s just a quote from Will Smith in the movie iRobot only like one of the best movies ever

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:25 AM

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what i could try is...

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remaking the ssh ramdisk with an imitation ipsw

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so then it compiles and signs properly

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:27 AM

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Up to you. I’m breaking out the beast now

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Hello sexy

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Long time no touch

crisp crater Jan 11, 2024, 2:28 AM

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god I was about to question everything I just read until the MacBook photo appeared

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:28 AM

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brazen niche

2017 model

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:28 AM

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Ohhhh no no no

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This is a 2011

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King daddy top of the line beefiest 17 inch you could ever get

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Come on baby boot up

crisp crater Jan 11, 2024, 2:29 AM

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gpu failure:

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:29 AM

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Nah this one is a rare working specimen

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:30 AM

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brazen niche Long time no touch

you know true apple fans when they talk to their machines like their side chicks

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:30 AM

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I ONLY turn it on when needed

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And have a script disabling the dedi just in case :’)

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:31 AM

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brazen niche And have a script disabling the dedi just in case :’)

oh no, it's not your pc, it's the ramdisk

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i just tried to boot up an apple tv with 14's ibec/ibss and 15's ramdisk etc and no dice

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:32 AM

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Rip

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:32 AM

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I'll have to do 13.4.6

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:33 AM

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How did you whip out an Apple TV that fast lmao

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:33 AM

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vale yoke How did you whip out an Apple TV that fast lmao

i have 3 of them

crisp crater Jan 11, 2024, 2:33 AM

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everyone has a convenient Apple TV

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:33 AM

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actually; 4

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2 HD's a 4k 1st gen and a third gen

crisp crater Jan 11, 2024, 2:33 AM

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if you don't have a convenient Apple TV then buy one trill

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:33 AM

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oh. I actually have 4 apple TVs. But they are all 4K 3rd gens

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They are all on 16.5 and are all currently in the box.

crisp crater Jan 11, 2024, 2:34 AM

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oh!

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3rd gen 4K?

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:34 AM

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I’m afraid to plug them in because they are going to fucking update. I’m waiting for an update blocker or something to be made lol

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Ya 4K 3rd gens

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:34 AM

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@brazen niche i wonder if you have any homepods on 15

crisp crater Jan 11, 2024, 2:34 AM

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nice

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:34 AM

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could get the keys

crisp crater Jan 11, 2024, 2:34 AM

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vale yoke I’m afraid to plug them in because they are going to fucking update. I’m waiting...

you might be able to install the tvOS beta profile

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!t blockota

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work

boreal monolithBOT Jan 11, 2024, 2:35 AM

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crisp crater !t blockota

blockota

To block OTA updates, you can install a modified tvOS beta profile. This works even without a jailbreak. Note that the profile expires and will stop blocking updates on <t:1738299600:D> (<t:1738299600:R>).

You will be met with an error trying to install the profile after <t:1702530000:D>, you can get around this by setting your device’s date back to a point before <t:1702530000:D> and trying to install the profile again, after it is installed you can set your device’s time back to normal and it will continue blocking updates until the scheduled expiration date.

You can re-enable updates by uninstalling this profile in Settings -> General -> Profiles & Device Management.

If you're jailbroken, you can also install the OTADisabler tweak instead, but note that it is harder to remove while unjailbroken.

crisp crater Jan 11, 2024, 2:35 AM

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GIR

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there

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try that

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:35 AM

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I don’t think installing the tvOS beta profile on tvOS would block the updates

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:35 AM

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crisp crater you might be able to install the tvOS beta profile

won't work

crisp crater Jan 11, 2024, 2:35 AM

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oh

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you know what I should've used my brain for a second

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a tvOS beta profile.. on a tvOS device..

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💀

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:35 AM

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I’ve been waiting for like a TrollStore or something so I can disable the updates and actually use these lol

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:36 AM

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ionic copper <@95732219607257088> i wonder if you have any homepods on 15

I just might but would take a bit to find

crisp crater Jan 11, 2024, 2:36 AM

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my Apple TV is on the latest developer beta

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just because

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:36 AM

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brazen niche I just might but would take a bit to find

if you can irecovery any homepods and get at least iboot matching 14 or 15 (anything higher than 13) i could patch the ramdisk

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:36 AM

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17?

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:38 AM

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Some dude was selling them for $80 each on Facebook marketplace he had like 30 of them. I told him I’ll take all the ones he has on 16.5 and he had 4. Old tvOS versions are already very difficult to find.

crisp crater Jan 11, 2024, 2:38 AM

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damn

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that's kinda crazy

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:38 AM

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I don’t know why he was selling them so cheap. He claimed some company installed them, hated them, and ripped them all out.

crisp crater Jan 11, 2024, 2:38 AM

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oh!

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:38 AM

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Or he stole them…

crisp crater Jan 11, 2024, 2:38 AM

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oh.

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:38 AM

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but tvOS doesn’t have iCloud lock, so 🤷‍♂️

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:38 AM

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brazen niche 17?

iBoot-6723.43.1, iBoot-6723.80.19~1, iBoot-6723.103.1, iBoot-7429.40.94, iBoot-7459.120.62.0.3, iBoot-8419.3.1 or anything in-between those numbers

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:39 AM

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Alrighty. I’m probably about out of time for the day so I’ll try to find a few for you and post back

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:39 AM

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take your time

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no rush

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at least then, i can re-decrypt the right files

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and you can get ssh

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@vale yoke if you wanna keep tabs on the keys...

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they could be published to theapplewiki

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:41 AM

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I just so happen to be sitting on like 20 HomePods that have all died within anywhere from the past week to the past two years, so I’m bound to find something that matches.

Most of them no power issues that people mailed in to be fixed

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:42 AM

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ionic copper they could be published to theapplewiki

Yeah, that’s a good idea. Honestly once we’re done here, this whole thing should get a wiki article lol.

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:42 AM

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If you fix this, you know the implications yeah?

This could end up in court with Apple

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:42 AM

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it honestly doesn't matter what OS they're on, as long as the ramdisk is decrypted by some key (that's preset on any of the devices via gaster) and that should allow you to ssh in

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:43 AM

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brazen niche If you fix this, you know the implications yeah? This could end up in court wit...

it's only illegal (AFAIK) if one were to redistribute the ipsw

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:43 AM

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I don’t mean what we’re doing is illegal

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It will however expose how fucked Apple handled it

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And possibly open them to a class action

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We’ll have proof of planned obsolescence

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:45 AM

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i’m not sure what you are expecting Apple to do. Of course they’re going to tell you to buy another one, they’re not going to rip your HomePod open to restore the firmware lol

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:45 AM

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I think Apple has that figured out with their "You're not supposed to do that" logic 😛

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:45 AM

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But the fact they will sell you a replacement claiming it’s a hardware issue when the store could just restore it. Smells odd to say the least

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:45 AM

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I wouldn’t really call it planned obsolescence… the HomePod is from 2018 and STILL getting firmware updates. I’d say that’s pretty damn good. Most products only get updates for like a year if you’re lucky

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:46 AM

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brazen niche But the fact they will sell you a replacement claiming it’s a hardware issue whe...

the store doesn't restore it, they ship them back to the manufacturer

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:46 AM

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I’m saying hypothetically

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:46 AM

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the manufacturer has the base firmware

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:46 AM

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In reality the manufacturer just recycles them

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:46 AM

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I went to Chevy asking them about the buggy software on my radio, and they just told me to buy a newer model car lmao

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:47 AM

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They dont refurbish or repair any first gens. And any refurbished first gen anyone has gotten is from the same original production just reboxed

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:47 AM

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just like that stupid skateboard.. you unplug the battery and the software bricks

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:48 AM

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If it doesn’t kill you first!

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:48 AM

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imagine a skateboard not working without software

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kind of like an escalator stopping "oh well, we can't climb it like stairs" 😛

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:49 AM

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Gifs of escalators abruptly stopping causing mass injuries

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See it’s fine! No one died!

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:51 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/puppy-dog-scared-stairs-gif-3479115

Tenor

the famous Butterball

▶ Play video

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folks be like ^

spiral patio Jan 11, 2024, 2:56 AM

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So this exploit is SoC based correct? No firmware patch that Apple releases can prevent it?

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:56 AM

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spiral patio So this exploit is SoC based correct? No firmware patch that Apple releases can ...

yes

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only way to patch such is make a new device or revise the old ones

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which apple wouldn't revise anything as old as the HD, but they'll reinvent it

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(aka - 4k with 5K video 😛 )

spiral patio Jan 11, 2024, 2:35 PM

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ionic copper yes

Yeah, this is huge. There are countless units out there being sold/thrown away/scrapped with this issue and Apple hasn’t said a word. If this fix works it’s a pretty seismic shift

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:35 PM

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figured Id start sharing the iboot versions Im finding on bricked ones until I find one we need

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first one up iBoot-5540.80.2

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13.3.1 ew

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iBoot-10151.60.43

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eyeshake2

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::
:: Supervisor iBootStage2 for b238a, Copyright 2007-2023, Apple Inc.
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::    Local boot, Board 0x38 (b238aap)/Rev 0xa
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::    BUILD_TAG: iBoot-10151.60.43
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::    BUILD_STYLE: RELEASE
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::    USB_SERIAL_NUMBER: SDOM:01 CPID:7000 CPRV:11 CPFM:03 SCEP:01 BDID:38 ECID:0012792928EA60A6 IBFL:1D SRNM:[CC4VXRE0J265]
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someone help make it make sense

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:41 PM

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brazen niche ```======================================= :: :: Supervisor iBootStage2 for b238...

I think it's 17

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:41 PM

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ahhh makes sense, it has a copyright in 2023 too

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:42 PM

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brazen niche ahhh makes sense, it has a copyright in 2023 too

Which would be great.. But what version of 17

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:42 PM

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I couldn't tell you :(

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:42 PM

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I wonder if you booted up windows and used the blue shield app

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:42 PM

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Here's another one that was marked bricked but is just working fine now. so likely hardware issue not software

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Hmm, next one seems to be stuck in DFU mode. not sure it's version

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:45 PM

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brazen niche Here's another one that was marked bricked but is just working fine now. so like...

I can do 16.4.1

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:46 PM

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Ok cool let me get it back

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:49 PM

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ionic copper I can do 16.4.1

usb_timeout: 5
usb_abort_timeout_min: 0
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Stage: RESET
ret: true
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Stage: SETUP
ret: true
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Stage: SPRAY
ret: true
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Stage: PATCH
ret: true
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Now you can boot untrusted images.
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
Found the USB handle.
IV: ED8EAA4BD9D8DCB1F6B283594AFC03CD, key: CC2382FB803CFD11EF00A238D037B74B7B0E1D26D1DB4FE3D07B1D99D54D71FC

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:50 PM

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What's that key from?

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:50 PM

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the 16.4.1 one

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:50 PM

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I man the kbag

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:50 PM

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oh that's from what I ran earlier, minus the extra line break that the command would complain about

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:51 PM

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That won't work, I'll get you another kbag

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:51 PM

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nw I figured as much :')

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 2:51 PM

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That kbag is from 13

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 2:51 PM

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ahh I see I am slowly learning

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fun fact you can power your homepod on upside down to purposefully give yourself the blinkies (dfu mode)
but dont panic, you can just flip it back up and power cycle it again to go back to normal :)

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 2:54 PM

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Misaka update compatible with all tvOS 16 versions maybe coming? 🤔

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Hopefully this dynamic patchfinder will make it easier

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:02 PM

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vale yoke Misaka update compatible with all tvOS 16 versions maybe coming? 🤔

Maybe.. Issue is most of this software is made for iOS

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So "all devices" doesn't usually include tvOS

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Why is it every day.. Discord NEEDS an update?

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It's Just as bad as Windows

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are you kidding me

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ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:07 PM

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brazen niche ahh I see I am slowly learning

217A0756D62BBBBA4ABB3767BC99DF726E1CFE3A8EBAEFA930033E15F804BE2F6D261FAFEB22F54C2A83D64ACFAC55C5C7A25A0FFE69E67F9F03D388B776BA494830A6A434AA4949F8FE53AA6271A245369A3A7E5898E45BD898B934876109A6

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and

08D2857266E96B98F0EA59577B1DFCD0623AEBB7B106AB03D168C6E42506B70083468E406AA6B8153CDBBB5C725841E576991A0BA7F2AFB30DE38C3C5DE8F929265B538ADCFD007A2BD52D949A3B30A1DA5B3DFC3D660EB01C9ADE8853079584

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 3:11 PM

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it didnt like either of those

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:11 PM

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brazen niche it didnt like either of those

i'll get better ones, give me like 10 mins

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 3:11 PM

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np np

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:14 PM

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brazen niche np np

08D2857266E96B98F0EA59577B1DFCD0623AEBB7B106AB03D168C6E42506B70083468E406AA6B8153CDBBB5C725841E576991A0BA7F2AFB30DE38C3C5DE8F929265B538ADCFD007A2BD52D949A3B30A1DA5B3DFC3D660EB01C9ADE8853079584

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think its the same but should work

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217A0756D62BBBBA4ABB3767BC99DF726E1CFE3A8EBAEFA930033E15F804BE2F6D261FAFEB22F54C2A83D64ACFAC55C5C7A25A0FFE69E67F9F03D388B776BA494830A6A434AA4949F8FE53AA6271A245369A3A7E5898E45BD898B934876109A6

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 3:19 PM

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yeaaa it dont like it

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:20 PM

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is it just making usb timeout?

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 3:21 PM

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usb_timeout: 5
usb_abort_timeout_min: 0
ye

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:21 PM

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i'd keep trying

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the exploit isn't 100%

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 3:21 PM

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well I think its the kbags cause it consistently gives back when I run the older kbag, and never works with these

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ill keep trying

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:25 PM

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brazen niche ```======================================= :: :: Supervisor iBootStage2 for b238...

here's a kicker: this ones for 17.2 beta

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 3:27 PM

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wow fresh af

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:27 PM

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well, early fresh.. 17.2 is out of beta 😛

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:30 PM

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brazen niche wow fresh af

you could also do that one (the 17.2 beta) with 9845291A70924981B3A9EA00D4324360441A6E2BAEEBC06BFD1F5BE789BFEBD4097F73EE3860A252A5756CD2CCD4133BA5376747F36D6D483A4E8FA809BDFA9B1EF86F1A7A9A2275D1B764542896E7C7C2152A236D5D1BE01D2719CFFEAF3A6A

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and
355D9F94A3B869C675B40C2F7953E5484D72260D42FC01B5ADFE02E89DA272F2CF49E25C5648E5B61BB6D2AF79809FC7CED30BDD4048B32B88897EDBF0D999945983AC4B2F3938162511273A30CA273E16CCEDC4C5D1B4185D80968B018D13C0

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 3:44 PM

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same story with that board. neither of those decrypt but the particular old one does

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for what its worth

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if I reduce the length of one of those to 96 characters

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just trim the extra off

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usb_timeout: 5
usb_abort_timeout_min: 0
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Now you can boot untrusted images.
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
Found the USB handle.
IV: F3F5238E3F128C0F7DD3BD35EB3FE716, key: AEF33A5A899A0F4840A83930D14D01C4C708311F397FC4DDF31F007536B03C8F```

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:47 PM

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brazen niche ```nic@Nics-MacBook-Pro Darwin % ./gaster decrypt_kbag 9845291A70924981B3A9EA00D...

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 3:48 PM

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yeah

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ok and if I plug in the second half of that first kbag

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usb_timeout: 5
usb_abort_timeout_min: 0
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Now you can boot untrusted images.
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
Found the USB handle.
IV: 824E9BBFFE7E306E631BFE7F68650787, key: C21B1BD8BA80E85823B804345058AD7F00665F8088C9C16B53183E10B8B345C9```

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here's the second kbag split in two

usb_timeout: 5
usb_abort_timeout_min: 0
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Now you can boot untrusted images.
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
Found the USB handle.
IV: AE3FC38099B8AA0C704C6566790ADE9F, key: A71BDBB2CF388132DBA9069C06E3D5051A183CE8062F0E5D310A56F72C3B9032


nic@Nics-MacBook-Pro Darwin % ./gaster decrypt_kbag CED30BDD4048B32B88897EDBF0D999945983AC4B2F3938162511273A30CA273E16CCEDC4C5D1B4185D80968B018D13C0
usb_timeout: 5
usb_abort_timeout_min: 0
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Now you can boot untrusted images.
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
Found the USB handle.
IV: FC57D25F84C51B3436368EDA2532F10E, key: D8A6A3A597FD6C6E8F2BC1D8D82FA29C70A7DEFC06D08CD2D6A36DA2DFBE2F63```

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 3:52 PM

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How is randomly cutting it in half working lmao

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:53 PM

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brazen niche here's the second kbag split in two ```nic@Nics-MacBook-Pro Darwin % ./gaster d...

what's funny is this key IV: AE3FC38099B8AA0C704C6566790ADE9F, key: A71BDBB2CF388132DBA9069C06E3D5051A183CE8062F0E5D310A56F72C3B9032 works for ibss 😛

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ok! i'll join!!

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fap

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fap

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😛

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 3:54 PM

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wah what are we gonna do on the bed

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pomf

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:55 PM

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you'd think there'd be more users...

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 3:55 PM

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they couldnt afford more of them LUL

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:55 PM

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onlyfans >

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 3:56 PM

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vale yoke How is randomly cutting it in half working lmao

idk I guess it can only decrypt 96 characters and it wont do 192

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zenseq enlighten us BegPleading

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:57 PM

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anywho, got 'em decrypted, i'll see about making a 17.2 beta ramdisk.. would these two last keys be from the 17.2 beta homepod?

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 3:57 PM

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yessir all four of those are from the same 17.2 beta pod

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:58 PM

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okay, then hopefully the ssh portion would work

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 3:59 PM

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brazen niche zenseq enlighten us <:BegPleading:712210055499350027>

actually, it's not fully decrypted, just half

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hence half the key 😛

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unless I'm blind...

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could just give it a try anyways

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 4:01 PM

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I’m going to have to buy some HomePods after all of this. I had zero interest in them until now lol.

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:02 PM

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vale yoke I’m going to have to buy some HomePods after all of this. I had zero interest in...

issue is, you'll need the adapter if you plan on getting keys/restoring/ssh-ing

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:04 PM

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I will sell adapters

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I have a 3d printer

spiral patio Jan 11, 2024, 4:04 PM

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I will buy adapters

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:04 PM

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And people can get them made by our sponsor! Pcbway!

spiral patio Jan 11, 2024, 4:04 PM

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I do not have a 3D printer

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:05 PM

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Pcbway can print stuff for you too but I intend on selling them anyways

spiral patio Jan 11, 2024, 4:05 PM

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@ionic copper how feasible would it be to automate this process once it’s done? Would I be able to write a script to handle all of this?

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:06 PM

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You will still need to pry your rubber base off but if you’re not an idiot it’s not a problem and it will just stick right back on when you’re done

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And for the love of god stop using tools and heat to pry the bases off

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:06 PM

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spiral patio <@977078029236981770> how feasible would it be to automate this process once it’...

automation to make an ipsw? not easy because apple will have updated

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:06 PM

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Just stick your hands innit and pull it off

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:06 PM

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which would require new keys

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 4:10 PM

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do you think Apple would change it so this process no longer works if you were to release a guide on how to do it?

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What could they change to make this not work anymore?

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:11 PM

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they get bigger fish to fry these days

spiral patio Jan 11, 2024, 4:11 PM

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ionic copper which would require new keys

Got it, assume we have a version that’s been decrypted, would the flashing of the actual image be able to be automated? I think it’d be great to have a tool that could run this on a HomePod once plugged in and take some guesswork out of it

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:11 PM

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aside from it being permanently vuln to checkm8 whatever they patch can probably be bypassed

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 4:11 PM

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Where can I get the Homepwn logic board made

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:11 PM

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that is for UART

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 4:11 PM

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I have a 3-D printer, but this looks much more professional and has UART lol

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:12 PM

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you dont need any pcb for usb

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just usb-a pinned in

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 4:12 PM

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it says it’s for both, no?

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:12 PM

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spiral patio Got it, assume we have a version that’s been decrypted, would the flashing of th...

you could.. automate a tool where it'll extract the keys and the blob for it's installed firmware, then download as such, patch everything, set nvram based on blob generator value then proceed to use futurerestore

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:12 PM

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vale yoke it says it’s for both, no?

depending on which pin on the pod you supply voltage to it will give you uart or usb. the adapter in that repo is for both but you wont need uart to debrick

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:13 PM

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brazen niche depending on which pin on the pod you supply voltage to it will give you uart or...

i was going to ask, how do you even use uart?

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:13 PM

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I dont really know lol

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:13 PM

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😛

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 4:13 PM

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We may be jumping the gun here let’s see if the restore even fixes it first lol

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:14 PM

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i have the breakout board for the 4K with usb and uart but can't understand how to access uart

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i think it's somewhere via irecovery

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:14 PM

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I think you need something to actually make sense / use of uart cause its just serial

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:14 PM

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uart is great for debugging

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it's just direct input/output.. no os

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 4:15 PM

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So you know how you can plug in a USB to ethernet adapter to an iPhone and it will work… I wonder if that would work for a HomePod. The main thing that’s been turning me off from getting them is the fact that they are Wi-Fi only.

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:16 PM

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no drivers

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:16 PM

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So you know how you can plug in a USB to ethernet adapter to an iPhone
?? huh?

spiral patio Jan 11, 2024, 4:16 PM

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vale yoke So you know how you can plug in a USB to ethernet adapter to an iPhone and it wi...

I doubt it

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:16 PM

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ionic copper > So you know how you can plug in a USB to ethernet adapter to an iPhone ?? huh?

facts tho

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i do this to test our work app on corp net

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no weefee

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:16 PM

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like.. ethernet via lightning port?

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 4:17 PM

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https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HMJU2ZM/A/belkin-ethernet-power-adapter-with-lightning-connector

Apple

Belkin Ethernet + Power Adapter with Lightning Connector

Belkin's Ethernet + Power Adapter with Lightning Connector delivers a secure, reliable wired Internet connection for your iPhone or iPad. Buy online now at apple.com.

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Yeah, Apple literally sells one, you can plug in an ethernet cable to your iPhone

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It works pretty well

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:17 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-ethernet-Charging-Compatible-Supports/dp/B0CCRZ6KYN?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A18ZXJ90WSPSYQ

Lightning to ethernet Adapter, 3 in 1 Lightning to RJ45 LAN Network...

Lightning to ethernet Adapter, 3 in 1 Lightning to RJ45 LAN Network and Charging Port,Plug and Play,Compatible with iPhone/iPad/iPod,Supports 100Mbps High Speed Ethernet Network

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:17 PM

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ah

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i guess that'll work if your broadcom chip breaks

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or antenna

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 4:18 PM

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tvOS has drivers for ethernet obviously… so I bet you the HomePod would be able to do it lmao. Would be interesting to try.

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:19 PM

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vale yoke tvOS has drivers for ethernet obviously… so I bet you the HomePod would be able ...

no-one wants to run a 30-foot cable to their homepod

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especially via a janky setup

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:20 PM

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vale yoke tvOS has drivers for ethernet obviously… so I bet you the HomePod would be able ...

that's actually a great point and now I must know. I will let you know

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:20 PM

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ionic copper no-one wants to run a 30-foot cable to their homepod

I 100% would

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 4:20 PM

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I do. My whole house is wired for ethernet. Wi-Fi kind of sucks and especially for a speaker. The quarter second delay on my Bluetooth speaker already pisses me off it makes it impossible to use for FPS games.

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:20 PM

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It probably wont fix delay

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its built in airplay buffer

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:20 PM

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brazen niche I 100% would

https://tenor.com/view/tripped-tyler-szalkowski-state-champs-just-sound-song-lost-balance-gif-25469993

Tenor

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 4:21 PM

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you can do it with the Amazon Alexa Show. There’s no documentation anywhere, but apparently you can get a micro USB to ethernet and plug it in and it will work. It says in the settings no network connection but it can still reach the Internet

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:21 PM

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you just potentially added a whole extra demographic interested in ripping the base off their homepod to dongle it into ethernet lmao

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buy my dongle, coming soon

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pay for my new car

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 4:22 PM

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I would love to use a dual HomePod set up on my computer, but the latency makes it impossible to use for gaming

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:22 PM

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I want my z back :(

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:22 PM

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brazen niche buy my dongle, coming soon

inb4 someone melts plastic and drills in holes

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:22 PM

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Some will rather and I'll give templates for it

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better to reduce risk than try preventing it outright thumbsUp

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:24 PM

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i can see apple not getting sued for broken homepod devices via software, but not providing the tools/adapters needed to fix such

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:24 PM

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I still see a class action for everyone that paid for a replacement due to it

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half of them will be dead by the time the $5 settlement check comes tho

vale yoke Jan 11, 2024, 4:27 PM

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We should see if we can get a HomePod channel made instead of cluttering up the Apple TV one…

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I wish we would enact the right to repair laws like they have in the EU to force everyone, not just Apple, to make this shit easier to repair. But capitalist USA would never do something like that lol

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 4:43 PM

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apologies for the delay, seeing if half-made keys work for ssh

pulsar mango Jan 11, 2024, 4:46 PM

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brazen niche I want my z back :(

😦 is it totally unsalvageable?

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 4:47 PM

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is there an off topic channel here?

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anyways no it's totaled. I can probably pick a few small things from it

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bunch of photos on my twitter if you want to see the poor thing

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oh shit I didn't even realize it was you zoo, I'll photo dump in my server

pulsar mango Jan 11, 2024, 4:53 PM

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👍 yeah I've been following it since when you first tweeted about the crash, didn't get around to asking more about it until now

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 5:52 PM

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ionic copper apologies for the delay, seeing if half-made keys work for ssh

can't even patch with half the keys

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 5:53 PM

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brazen niche it didnt like either of those

what other iboots do you have?

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 6:25 PM

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mm let me run through more

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iBoot-5540.140.12

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 6:31 PM

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brazen niche iBoot-5540.140.12

that ones 13.4.8

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 6:31 PM

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another one on 17.1. this one started randomly working

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going to find another

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hmm not sure on this one its stuck in dfu mode only. moving on to another

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iBoot-8419.40.112

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16.1

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another dfu only

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 6:38 PM

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brazen niche another one on 17.1. this one started randomly working

6FEE4F65E8EDD9144AFBC4538021A0379609547C46B518AE3A576F53B5166F6BF786ADEA431C00A66C829C0F87AF68550D643138993139CFCCCEF464EE4339CE4093234D302EE6C7AAB003C30D15D86B6D826481D418E98E5B77C467B24C61F4

for 17.1

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FE598FF3AF54AEB1B8A9E022925CE4A36E09D25335BCB6D9D8A37781291B025D3501863CC353C99FC811BE48E8D11E24A5F1446F0BA330826C7BD1244135C9C091B9A6D9F0171B4EDD423D842BE194AD13FBB4121769C3AE701F72579255FA47

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 6:41 PM

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brazen niche 16.1

0107BD484B50B5115B568B5580D882F4ACC0D621943DCE7B9C902FF57DD18E2B816CE818CC6ECCAA495980D0B9EF9BD8915C61396D5AB33E49F7E428D102244F0833FBE332720C3110BD7D24C389E5F71858CEA70A944F457432BD0963324DCA

for 16.1

D7D0F541C303EE42DF25FAABF9F59B1585126809901AD8368C12C1B2F879B77C24AFF1C787CD12AB605BDE9A6D8D8A4464BE0879E85C8E2CCC903BBAE3E707DF2867DFEB10F3FB791E4405E7F152FC3E228979038DC91CE9BBF7B32B329CE1C7

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dfu-only devices should still work granted they're using SoC to get the keys from

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 6:44 PM

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with the dfu only Im just not getting anything with irecovery and moving on to another one for now

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ok we'll do 16.1

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not sure if you still want me trying to run them full 192 characters at once or split it but it wont work without splitting them

alas

usb_timeout: 5
usb_abort_timeout_min: 0
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Stage: RESET
ret: true
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Stage: SETUP
ret: true
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Stage: SPRAY
ret: true
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Stage: PATCH
ret: true
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Now you can boot untrusted images.
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
Found the USB handle.
IV: E35215193E27928B700189E8B3E6104E, key: 777D09A8F580C66B7A2A37EA0130BA555F3197E5F80431F3FEC4D91116CACB0B
nic@Nics-MacBook-Pro Darwin % ./gaster decrypt_kbag 915C61396D5AB33E49F7E428D102244F0833FBE332720C3110BD7D24C389E5F71858CEA70A944F457432BD0963324DCA
usb_timeout: 5
usb_abort_timeout_min: 0
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Now you can boot untrusted images.
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
Found the USB handle.
IV: 681B1536016D76E2296594C7AFABC3A1, key: 4D11A94E4FED5191CA603D1E8D69488F6F4FBD2B68966289F6DD669805832732```

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second kbag split up for 16.1

usb_timeout: 5
usb_abort_timeout_min: 0
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Now you can boot untrusted images.
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
Found the USB handle.
IV: 20ECAC501242ED1FFD93EF54B6ED50B1, key: DD08F1C8A99075E163799FD2BED988A94695426E4E9EEAFE5C64F3AA594DFF02
nic@Nics-MacBook-Pro Darwin % ./gaster decrypt_kbag 64BE0879E85C8E2CCC903BBAE3E707DF2867DFEB10F3FB791E4405E7F152FC3E228979038DC91CE9BBF7B32B329CE1C7
usb_timeout: 5
usb_abort_timeout_min: 0
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Now you can boot untrusted images.
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
Found the USB handle.
IV: 5497946548B96792605859B6BCC9CBAD, key: B41A461279243F13549CD4804F6666ACCCDA996E2CB82BC514F86C006438CDFC```

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 7:01 PM

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brazen niche not sure if you still want me trying to run them full 192 characters at once or ...

i found an interesting boot argument: nand-enable-reformat=1 -progress

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 7:08 PM

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owo

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what do I do with this

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ah, add it to sshrd boot?

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 7:12 PM

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brazen niche ah, add it to sshrd boot?

kind of

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I'm going to try rebuilding the 13.4.5 ramdisk

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i think i did it wrong the first time

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there's 2 ramdisks i didn't know about

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 7:16 PM

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interesting ok

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Im going to try finding that one again I mixed them up

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iBoot-8422.100.650
cant find anything on that one

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:: Supervisor iBootStage2 for b238a, Copyright 2007-2023, Apple Inc.
::
::    Local boot, Board 0x38 (b238aap)/Rev 0xa
::
::    BUILD_TAG: iBoot-8422.100.650
::
::    BUILD_STYLE: RELEASE
::
::    USB_SERIAL_NUMBER: SDOM:01 CPID:7000 CPRV:11 CPFM:03 SCEP:01 BDID:38 ECID:0001452238EA1326 IBFL:1D SRNM:[CC4W17DRJ265]
::
=======================================```

ionic copper Jan 11, 2024, 7:21 PM

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brazen niche interesting ok

well, apple made the ramdisk in newer updates to just dmg

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but older ones are re-encrypted as .dmg.image

brazen niche Jan 11, 2024, 8:06 PM

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ah im an idiot. found my 13.4 board

vale yoke Jan 12, 2024, 1:56 AM

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Misaka for all tvOS (15 and 16?) indeed coming soon

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Now we just need TrollStore.

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But this will be great for blocking updates… I think. I’m not sure what I would need to edit to block the updates though.

ionic copper Jan 12, 2024, 7:54 AM

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vale yoke Now we just need TrollStore.

you don't need trollstore when you have kpf WeSmart

vale yoke Jan 12, 2024, 1:22 PM

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Oh

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Tbh I’m not quite sure what KPF is

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But it sounds cool

ionic copper Jan 12, 2024, 2:31 PM

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vale yoke Tbh I’m not quite sure what KPF is

Kernel patch finder

Upon boot, it disables security to allow custom code signing by patching the kernel

vale yoke Jan 12, 2024, 3:12 PM

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I’m so confused

ionic copper Jan 12, 2024, 3:19 PM

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vale yoke I’m so confused

About what

vale yoke Jan 12, 2024, 3:22 PM

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ionic copper Kernel patch finder Upon boot, it disables security to allow custom code signin...

That sounds like an untethered jailbreak. I thought the path finder was just for finding offsets (for KFD in this case)

ionic copper Jan 12, 2024, 3:26 PM

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vale yoke That sounds like an untethered jailbreak. I thought the path finder was just for...

No. It's literally what checkra1n does

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When you boot, the exploit kicks in, then launches a kernel patch finder to find offsets and patch the kernel automatically

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Then the OS loads with the apps present but with the ability to launch an app that has special privileges to install a bootstrap

vale yoke Jan 12, 2024, 3:35 PM

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Oh ok that makes sense

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That only works if you can use checkra1n though

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No Checkra1n on 3rd gen 4K 😞

stone crescent Jan 12, 2024, 6:38 PM

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So for 1 gen 4k this is available?

ionic copper Jan 12, 2024, 6:58 PM

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stone crescent So for 1 gen 4k this is available?

Yes

stone crescent Jan 12, 2024, 7:00 PM

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Any tutorials ?

ionic copper Jan 12, 2024, 7:12 PM

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For what?

stone crescent Jan 12, 2024, 7:48 PM

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ionic copper When you boot, the exploit kicks in, then launches a kernel patch finder to find...

This

vale yoke Jan 12, 2024, 7:54 PM

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what he’s talking about there is just the checkra1n jailbreak

vale yoke Jan 12, 2024, 8:10 PM

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I think

unreal sand Jan 12, 2024, 8:34 PM

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a kpf is a common component in most jailbreaks

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not just checkm8 based ones

ionic copper Jan 12, 2024, 9:01 PM

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unreal sand a kpf is a common component in most jailbreaks

In this case, it's primarily checkra1n

ionic copper Jan 13, 2024, 1:41 AM

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@vale yoke did you make note of the keys?

ionic copper Jan 13, 2024, 2:55 AM

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to potentially fix this error:
brew uninstall libusb
brew install libusb
brew link libusb

vale yoke Jan 13, 2024, 4:32 AM

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ionic copper <@171382948707303426> did you make note of the keys?

I was trying to, but then you guys started cutting them in half and I got all confused :/

ionic copper Jan 13, 2024, 4:32 AM

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vale yoke I was trying to, but then you guys started cutting them in half and I got all co...

it seems the half keys don't entirely work

vale yoke Jan 13, 2024, 4:33 AM

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Did Nick get anywhere with the HomePod? Was he able to restore one or are you still working on the RAMdisk

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ah ok

ionic copper Jan 13, 2024, 4:34 AM

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vale yoke Did Nick get anywhere with the HomePod? Was he able to restore one or are you st...

it's difficult to decipher this issue when it would either be a software problem or a hardware problem

vale yoke Jan 13, 2024, 4:37 AM

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Would you be able to dump the boot log with the RAM disk and see where it’s failing? Should be able to tell if it’s hardware or software based on what it says

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I think

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Oh good MisakaTV coming tomorrow with update blocker 😁

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Now I can use all these Apple TV without worrying about them updating

storm ridge Jan 13, 2024, 1:29 PM

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@vale yoke
For the 1st gen 4k, can the IPA be installed with Xcode or with special cables only?

vale yoke Jan 13, 2024, 1:35 PM

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I believe you have to do it through Xcode over the network. All I have is a virtual Mac, but that should work according to Sideloadly. I’ve never sideloaded do an Apple TV before, so I have to figure this out too lol.

vale yoke Jan 13, 2024, 1:36 PM

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storm ridge <@171382948707303426> For the 1st gen 4k, can the IPA be installed with Xcode or...

ionic copper Jan 13, 2024, 3:06 PM

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storm ridge <@171382948707303426> For the 1st gen 4k, can the IPA be installed with Xcode or...

Both

ionic copper Jan 13, 2024, 4:04 PM

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I'd use the cables more

storm ridge Jan 13, 2024, 4:30 PM

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Ya dont have cables yet. Need to see how this plays out, hoping for Trollstore to get ported over.

stone crescent Jan 13, 2024, 5:38 PM

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Xcode works best for me. Sideloading kodi gave me a error with sideloady with xcode it just works fine.

forest raft Jan 14, 2024, 12:57 AM

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Is their any new tweaks now?

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-_-

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Please someone reply

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Oh crap im on ios 14 --

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My tvos

ionic copper Jan 14, 2024, 3:52 AM

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forest raft Is their any new tweaks now?

in the works 😉

vale yoke Jan 14, 2024, 9:19 PM

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Misaka for Apple TV has been released!

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https://twitter.com/straight_tamago/status/1746637890267033646

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Currently trying to Sideload this with my Mac VM but its being stubborn lol

uneven wraith Jan 14, 2024, 9:19 PM

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Network file browser? Wonder what that means

vale yoke Jan 14, 2024, 9:20 PM

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Lets you view the file system on the Apple TV using your phone...

uneven wraith Jan 14, 2024, 9:20 PM

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oOh

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I never worked out how to do that

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Might ask the dev if I can use that

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I did get a web server running on it once but then it broke and I never figured out why

storm ridge Jan 15, 2024, 12:14 AM

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@vale yoke
To block the update nag, we are suppose to drop a file at /var/mobile/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist. Question... I wonder if the blocking will persist even after the Misaka IPA expires after 7 days?

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 12:39 AM

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It should yeah, as this is a file system change. Looks like it’s just setting “MobileAssetSUAllowOSVersionChange” to false

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I just did it, and it seems to work well

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ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:12 AM

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vale yoke Misaka for Apple TV has been released!

i love the irony of how it says "All KFD devices" but Apple TV HD just won't work 😛

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 4:06 AM

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Mine crashes and reboots every time with the default exploit. But It works instantly if I switch to Landa. Which is weird because Landa is supposedly the most unreliable lol

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 4:27 AM

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vale yoke Mine crashes and reboots every time with the default exploit. But It works insta...

mine just stalls.. then the app exits

bitter gull Jan 15, 2024, 5:12 AM

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Does this new release work on 4k gen 1 16.6?

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Looks like there is a 3.1 version now

bitter gull Jan 15, 2024, 5:50 AM

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okay im trying on 4k gen 1 but im getting error. guru meditation with a URL ending in trusteddevice

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using sideloadly 0.50.1 on macos (m1 air)

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do i need to pair atv with macos through xcode first? i'll try to see if that does it
EDIT: nevermind. that seems to be the solution for getting atv to show in sideloadly. i dont have that problem. i will try add the icloud account used in sideloadly to the macos

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okay that worked!

bitter gull Jan 15, 2024, 6:14 AM

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Landa worked immediately
EDIT: still trying to get to Misaka toolbox on iphone though...

bitter gull Jan 15, 2024, 6:43 AM

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okay im trying to add the plist file to block updates, but it won't add
EDIT: Found the issue. I was downloading the plist file from discord on my iphone and it added a .txt extension, which shouldn't be added to Preferences folder. It needs to be a .plist extension. I ended up saving the plist file to my PC and uploading it to iCloud on a browser. Then I used Files app on iphone to copy it to my On My iPhone folder. Updates are now blocked on Apple TV 4K Gen 1 tvOS 16.6. plist file and instructions are on the misaka support discord: #1196223809812971720 message

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 9:25 AM

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Ya, I had the Sideloadly trusteddevice and the .txt problem as well

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 12:17 PM

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Whats the latest tvos update? Tvos 16?

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Because im on ios 14 for tvos still

storm ridge Jan 15, 2024, 2:06 PM

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@vale yoke
Did you install on a 1st gen 4k or HD?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 2:53 PM

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forest raft Whats the latest tvos update? Tvos 16?

Tvos 17

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 2:53 PM

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storm ridge <@171382948707303426> Did you install on a 1st gen 4k or HD?

My guess is 4K since HD doesn't work

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:07 PM

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storm ridge <@171382948707303426> Did you install on a 1st gen 4k or HD?

3rd gen 4K

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Is there a way to dump the on board blobs from 16.5 from my Apple TV? Are blobs even useful anymore or should I not even bother to try

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:09 PM

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I guess kfd would be ideal for the 4K since Apple has locked the third gen down pretty tight

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:09 PM

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vale yoke Is there a way to dump the on board blobs from 16.5 from my Apple TV? Are blobs ...

You can't use them on the 4K second or third gen unless checkm8 is updated

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:11 PM

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yeah that’s what I figured but if we ever get a new bootrom exploit in the future they may be useful. I know even with blobs you can’t really downgrade an iPhone anymore. I don’t know if the same applies to AppleTV.

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:12 PM

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vale yoke yeah that’s what I figured but if we ever get a new bootrom exploit in the futur...

By the time that happens (if it does) we'd all be old enough to develop Alzheimer's and forget how you even use the thing let alone; downgrade it

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:12 PM

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Lmao

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Fair enough

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:13 PM

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We'd call apple "but I plugged it in.. Just a blinking light"

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:14 PM

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ionic copper I guess kfd would be ideal for the 4K since Apple has locked the third gen down ...

Yeah now that we have KFD, it would be possible to install CT signed apps 😁

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Not many system apps to inject into though, I guess really only podcasts and fitness to use as like a TrollStore helper lol

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:15 PM

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vale yoke Yeah now that we have KFD, it would be possible to install CT signed apps 😁

Sad part is, apple knows about this and is demanding developers to update, so only a year or so until all the apps need tvOS 18

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At that point, nitoTV would be retired

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:16 PM

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Well hopefully it won’t force an app update

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But knowing Apple it probably will

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:16 PM

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And all we'd have is just some exploits and cool things to install.. Nothing amazing

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At least the HD is downgradable for life which checkra1n works with

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:21 PM

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I can’t really think of much that a full jailbreak would be useful for on an Apple TV anyway. Really all you would need is TrollStore so you can permasign a YouTube ad blocker and MAME.

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Was there anything cool you could do on the old ones?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:22 PM

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vale yoke I can’t really think of much that a full jailbreak would be useful for on an App...

Well, airdrop is nice. You can also produce tweaks. TrollStore is great but root access is where the fun is at

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:23 PM

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I don’t know, root access just sounds like an easy way to permabrick lol. At least on 2nd and 3rd gen 4K

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:23 PM

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Issue is, most folks don't care enough to tweak their tv experience much less install any app they want

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Kind of like jailbreaking a jukebox over a Tesla

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:24 PM

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apparently they are even working on Miska for Apple Watch now. There’s never even been any kind of Apple Watch development because everyone is too afraid of bricking it lmao

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:24 PM

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vale yoke I don’t know, root access just sounds like an easy way to permabrick lol. At lea...

It's only bad when folks with half an IQ go messing with stuff

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:25 PM

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vale yoke apparently they are even working on Miska for Apple Watch now. There’s never eve...

I was wondering if kfd worked for that device.. I have an se2 I'd like to fiddle with

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:26 PM

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ionic copper It's only bad when folks with half an IQ go messing with stuff

True. I used to fuck with random shit all the time back on iOS 5 on my old iPad. I don’t do that anymore, because bootloops are not repairable.

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:26 PM

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Bootloops are repairable via ramdisk

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:26 PM

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I used to go in and delete as many launchdemons as I could and I had my iPad on iOS 5 down to 8 running processes lol

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:26 PM

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But nowadays with SSV, good luck

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:27 PM

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That’s why I love untethered jailbreaks I wish they would make a come back. Everyone says untethers are dangerous, but to me, it’s the opposite. If SSH runs at boot, even if you are stuck in a boot loop, you have a chance to SSH in and fix it.

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:28 PM

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I do love how Apple designed a foolproof way to avoid changing the system.. Until you go and update and the OTA fails half way.. Then there goes your device and all your data

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Thanks apple

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:28 PM

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vale yoke That’s why I love untethered jailbreaks I wish they would make a come back. Ever...

Issue with untethered jailbreaks, they're too valuable to burn

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It's like reselling a brand new car you just bought.. Or keeping it for yourself to use

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Everyone would keep it

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:31 PM

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I think the CoreTrust bug could be untethered for iOS 15 and 16 if it wasn’t for SSV. You can just replace a nonessential system daemon with a CoreTrust signed one that does whatever you want and have it run at boot lol

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:32 PM

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vale yoke I think the CoreTrust bug could be untethered for iOS 15 and 16 if it wasn’t for...

But then you'd have ppl

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:33 PM

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True, but you could just have that demon kick off the PPL exploit, and do the rest of the jailbreak.

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:33 PM

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ionic copper Tvos 17

So the jb wont work on tvos 17 right?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:34 PM

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forest raft So the jb wont work on tvos 17 right?

Nope

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Not yet anyways

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:35 PM

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Since a jailbreak has released for ios 16, have you guys got tweaks .debs to work and compatible with tvos14?

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Or any new tweaks at all?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:35 PM

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forest raft Since a jailbreak has released for ios 16, have you guys got tweaks .debs to wor...

Tweaks already work with 14

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:35 PM

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ionic copper Tweaks already work with 14

But i have old repos

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So nothing downloads

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:36 PM

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forest raft But i have old repos

Delete them

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:36 PM

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ionic copper Delete them

You have updated list for tweaks for tvos?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:36 PM

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forest raft You have updated list for tweaks for tvos?

They come included

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:37 PM

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ionic copper They come included

Wait so is their a whole new app i can get tweaks now?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:37 PM

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forest raft Wait so is their a whole new app i can get tweaks now?

Don't know what new app you're talking about

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:37 PM

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ionic copper Don't know what new app you're talking about

Like something like sileo for tvos

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:37 PM

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No

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It's nitoTV

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:38 PM

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Nitrotv is where i cannot get any tweaks to download. Says url down etc. i need updated repo list to add too nitrotv

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:38 PM

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Then delete the repos

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:39 PM

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After deleting my repos i need to add new?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:39 PM

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No, they come included

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:39 PM

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Ohhhh i und

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Understand

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And did nitro get updated?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:39 PM

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Yes

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:39 PM

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😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

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Time to fire that dust machine back up

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:40 PM

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Inb4 new issues arise

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:40 PM

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😭

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:40 PM

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The newly updated nitoTV won't let you add new repos

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:40 PM

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Omg

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:40 PM

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So you'll need to add them in another way

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I can show you once you update it

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:41 PM

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Okay perfect! Will be this weekend. I gotta find my apple tv. Have you got snowboard working on tvos? 😍

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:41 PM

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I do

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:42 PM

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Thats sweet. What else works?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:42 PM

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Hard to say when not a lot of optimised for 14

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Works on 13 though

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:43 PM

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Oh okay I understand. Will have to test around

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vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:45 PM

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ionic copper I was wondering if kfd worked for that device.. I have an se2 I'd like to fiddle...

Well, apparently they are making progress with watchOS over on the Misaka Discord lol. They are not sure which watchOS version patched KFD exploit.

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Imagine Trollstore on watchOS lmao

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:47 PM

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@vale yoke i wish this device

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With modern storage swap

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:47 PM

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vale yoke Imagine Trollstore on watchOS lmao

I'd take it.. It sucks you need to buy the app for it to even install on watchOS

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:47 PM

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Would be the best music player

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:47 PM

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forest raft Would be the best music player

It's great for porn whist on the toilet

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:48 PM

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All I want is an app for the Apple Watch that’s like the Carbridge Portal and can you mirror your phone screen to the watch

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I would pay… like $30… for that lol

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:48 PM

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vale yoke All I want is an app for the Apple Watch that’s like the Carbridge Portal and ca...

That would be so cool

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Like inspectors gadget

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:49 PM

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theoretically, this could just be done with TrollStore permasigning and entitlements. You wouldn’t even need a jailbreak. The phone would probably have to be jailbroken though.

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:49 PM

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If trollstore existed for watchOS, all the pirates would demand their cracked spotify apps to work coherently with their watches

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:50 PM

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Cracked Spotify? I thought Spotify was free lol

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:50 PM

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vale yoke theoretically, this could just be done with TrollStore permasigning and entitlem...

What I'd love though, is legizmo for trollstore on 14

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:50 PM

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vale yoke Cracked Spotify? I thought Spotify was free lol

It is free, with ads

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:50 PM

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Oh. I just use a systemwide ad blocker it fixes that problem lol

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I haven’t had ads in any streaming services in years

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:51 PM

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No, it's spotifys server

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:51 PM

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vale yoke Oh. I just use a systemwide ad blocker it fixes that problem lol

You know how to program this?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:51 PM

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forest raft You know how to program this?

Bloatware

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:51 PM

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Wtf is that lol

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:51 PM

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ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:51 PM

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Every adblock app is trash

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:52 PM

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I just use AdGuard. But will switch to the hostfile blocking once the jailbreak releases.

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:52 PM

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ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 3:52 PM

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Ad block apps drain battery too

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:52 PM

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ionic copper Ad block apps drain battery too

Ohh

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:53 PM

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Ya cause of the constant VPN

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I’m hoping there will be a better solution once Dopamine comes

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:53 PM

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Watchos jailbreak

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Amazing!

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I was recently thinking of getting a watchos because of how cheap they are now

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:54 PM

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GOD why is the voice to text so bad in iOS 16. It worked perfectly on my XS on iOS 14 but on my 14 it just butchers absolutely everything and I end up rewriting half the sentence anyway

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stop putting random commas in the middle of my sentences!

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:55 PM

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vale yoke GOD why is the voice to text so bad in iOS 16. It worked perfectly on my XS on i...

Is your phone microphone dirty? Maybe that can mess it up

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 3:55 PM

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like it was great how the fuck do you regress this badly

forest raft Jan 15, 2024, 3:57 PM

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vale yoke like it was great how the fuck do you regress this badly

Lol maybe its the new ai thing

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 4:03 PM

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vale yoke GOD why is the voice to text so bad in iOS 16. It worked perfectly on my XS on i...

Maybe you're drunk

storm ridge Jan 15, 2024, 5:20 PM

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@vale yoke
YouTube ad blocker on ATV would be my near my top demand. I have an adblock for iOS and my Mac. Forget that there are ads being blocked until I use ATV and it kills the experience. I know there are were some other YouTube app clones for ATV without ads but the UI was inferior imo.

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 5:25 PM

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storm ridge <@171382948707303426> YouTube ad blocker on ATV would be my near my top demand. ...

it already exists

storm ridge Jan 15, 2024, 5:29 PM

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@ionic copper
As long as I had Nito on 14 I never saw one. There were custom YouTube apps without ads but I didn't like the UI. What exists now? btw I am no longer on 14. I upgraded all my 4k's to 16.5

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 6:24 PM

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Question to those with misaka installed for TVOS, does this allow for installing troll store? I currently have a 4k 1st gen and an HD on 14.5, but I have the opportunity to buy a 2nd or 3rd gen on 16.5 or 16.6. I could live without a jailbreak if I could permasign some side loaded apps. Thanks!

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:24 PM

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storm ridge <@977078029236981770> As long as I had Nito on 14 I never saw one. There were cu...

you upgraded all your 4K's.. lame

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:24 PM

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green basalt Question to those with misaka installed for TVOS, does this allow for installing...

yes.

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don't buy the 3rd gen

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 6:25 PM

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Why not? Is it just the lack of hidden connector in the Ethernet port?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:25 PM

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green basalt Why not? Is it just the lack of hidden connector in the Ethernet port?

well, yes. Primarily. It sucks enough to have only wifi.. but if that goes wrong.. then how does one sideload?

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 6:27 PM

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That's a fair point, I was going to get the wifi+ethernet as they are about the same price as the gen 2.

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I'd be keeping my older models so I could always fall back on those.

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Follow up question, I'm torn on delayOTA either of my current models to 17.0. I figured maybe I'd do the HD as it can always be restored to 13 worst case. any recommendations there?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:30 PM

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it's sad enough that apple doesn't include a port.. with that being said, only a matter of time until ipads go portless, then iphones

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soon, every apple product will just be a wireless metal box with a screen and buttons

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 6:31 PM

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It's super frustrating, the breakout board has been great, big props to lilsteve for figuring that out.

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:31 PM

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macs will go portless

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it'll be just wireless usb connectivity

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then mac minis

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then in the year 2030 we'll have just the whole apple experience as humans in a plastic bubble with just one cable for power and you have 3D surround sound and virtual reality

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 6:32 PM

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Even a lot of PC's have been dropping a lot of their ports. USB C has been good since it is so versatile, but as someone who regularly needs a microSD and ethernet slot it was infuriating trying to buy my last work laptop. Ended up getting a stupid dongle to carry around to add that functionality back.

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haha easy tim apple

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:33 PM

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I am quite curious as to how apple installs the baseline firmware on the 3rd gens without such port

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 6:33 PM

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when do us humans go portless? I'm tired of loosing all this time to the bathrom

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I do wonder if they have a secret port somewhere, after all the ethernet port was hiding in plain sight for years before discovery

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:35 PM

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green basalt I do wonder if they have a secret port somewhere, after all the ethernet port wa...

where's ifixit to teardown the device and show us the logic board?

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 6:36 PM

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right? I didnt even notice that they dont have one for the current gen

storm ridge Jan 15, 2024, 6:40 PM

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ionic copper you upgraded all your 4K's.. lame

I pay for a sports subscription and min is 14. Jb not worth it to me if i cant use apps

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:40 PM

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storm ridge I pay for a sports subscription and min is 14. Jb not worth it to me if i cant u...

you pay for sports? lame 😛

storm ridge Jan 15, 2024, 6:41 PM

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ionic copper you pay for sports? lame 😛

Alternative is piracy and kodi streams buffer too often. To ea his own

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:41 PM

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storm ridge Alternative is piracy and kodi streams buffer too often. To ea his own

was going to say playing > watching

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 6:41 PM

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man, tough crowd!

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 6:47 PM

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ionic copper yes.

hey, i noticed that misaka mentions pairing it with the iOS version, is that necessary? i dont have an iOS device on any compatible version.

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:47 PM

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green basalt hey, i noticed that misaka mentions pairing it with the iOS version, is that nec...

it would be to install packages

storm ridge Jan 15, 2024, 6:47 PM

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My 4k's were on 13. Good while it lasted but functionality req'd me to upgrade. I'll wait on 16.5 for now

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 6:49 PM

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ionic copper it would be to install packages

damn thats a bummer

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:49 PM

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why?

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 6:50 PM

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ionic copper why?

oh wait, so could I install troll store with it, and then just use trollstore on the device?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:50 PM

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so far, you can but afaik, the functionality isn't there yet

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takes time to develop

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 6:52 PM

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I'm confused, by that last comment. so is it possible to install trollstore and then say install and permasign retroarch without needing an iOS device running misaka? or are you saying it isn't currently but should be later?

trim wagon Jan 15, 2024, 6:54 PM

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ionic copper it already exists

which is?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:55 PM

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trim wagon which is?

yattee

trim wagon Jan 15, 2024, 6:55 PM

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that's literally the app that @storm ridge mentions which has a horrendous UI

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:56 PM

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trim wagon that's literally the app that <@588040798592040972> mentions which has a horrend...

i mean sure the ui sucks but I'd live with a bad ui and no ads than a great ui with all this stuff to block ads with

trim wagon Jan 15, 2024, 6:56 PM

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works on webOS :/

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 6:57 PM

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at least the project is open source.. anyone can make the ui better

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 6:59 PM

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ionic copper takes time to develop

I'm confused, by that last comment. so is it possible to install trollstore and then say install and permasign retroarch without needing an iOS device running misaka? or are you saying it isn't currently but should be later?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 7:00 PM

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green basalt I'm confused, by that last comment. so is it possible to install trollstore and ...

you can permasign without needing misaka

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misaka just makes it easier

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 7:02 PM

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ionic copper you can permasign without needing misaka

gotcha, but you do need misaka to install trollstore?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 7:02 PM

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green basalt gotcha, but you do need misaka to install trollstore?

no

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it's just 10x more difficult

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 7:03 PM

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ionic copper no

is that the ramdisk method?

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 7:03 PM

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that's one method

storm ridge Jan 15, 2024, 7:05 PM

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ionic copper i mean sure the ui sucks but I'd live with a bad ui and no ads than a great ui w...

Depends on each person's use case. I use my ATV primarily for watching live sports and very little YouTube. Besides I do have 2 HD's on 14.7 but have not been using them. If I was a heavy YouTube user I might have reconsidered

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 7:07 PM

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ionic copper that's one method

oh, right that would only work for the 4k 1st gen anyways since it needs to be checkm8 compatible. didnt know there were other options on TVOS.

green basalt Jan 15, 2024, 7:30 PM

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ionic copper that's one method

hey, thanks for your help thus far. I remembered that my old iPad Air 2 is maxed out on 15.8, so i was able to get misaka on that. Where do i find the appletv connect function? online it says "ToolBox > AppleTV Connect", but i don't see this toolbox... am i just blind? or does it not exist on the iPad?

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 8:04 PM

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ionic copper where's ifixit to teardown the device and show us the logic board?

Nic, the dude with the HomePods, actually did a teardown of the 3rd gen 4K and shows off the logic board under a magnifying glass lol

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bqqbUXe3pDA

YouTube

Nic's Fix

Tearing Apart the New Apple TV 4K w/ Ethernet, and A Few HomePod Re...

I'm giving away a custom first generation homepod! Subscribe and watch here for how to enter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjJVxfjOwyg

0: Tearing Apart the New Apple TV 4K w/ Ethernet
1: Richard - No Power
2: Kelvin - No Bass
3: Chandra - No Power
4: Chris - No Power
5: Michael - No Power
6: Ben - No Power

Parts needed, diagnostic, and repa...

▶ Play video

vale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 9:05 PM

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My Apple TV has crabs 😫

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 9:10 PM

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vale yoke My Apple TV has crabs 😫

better the tv than the spouse

prisma zodiac Jan 15, 2024, 11:28 PM

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Hey, I need an update to the Apple TV “jailbreak” and tweaking scene. Currently have an Apple TV 4 (not 4k) jailbroken with checkrain on 14.6. Can I update to the latest and jb with checkrain? If not, what’s the alternatives for tweaking the Apple TV on newer iOS?

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I need to update the TVOS if possible but keep sideloading with possible permasigning

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 11:34 PM

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if not, then I'd get on saving blobs so you can get back to 14.6 because once you update, you cannot go back without such

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 11:34 PM

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prisma zodiac Hey, I need an update to the Apple TV “jailbreak” and tweaking scene. Currently ...

no. there's no jailbreak for the latest

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there is no alternatives

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all you can do is sideload

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what exactly needs to be updated?

prisma zodiac Jan 15, 2024, 11:36 PM

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Disney+ and some other stuff.

ionic copper Jan 15, 2024, 11:36 PM

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for disney, there is a tweak.. don't know if it works though

prisma zodiac Jan 15, 2024, 11:37 PM

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I’ve got KODI on there, but it glitches out and has a weird buffer thing that sometimes crashes it.

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And I want to keep Kodi

vale yoke Jan 16, 2024, 1:12 AM

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Ok… wtf is the point of the karaoke mode on Apple Music on Apple TV… I thought it would use the microphone on the Siri Remote and let me sing into it 😒

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I know what tweak I’m writing… if I ever learn how to make tweaks

ionic copper Jan 16, 2024, 1:42 AM

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vale yoke Ok… wtf is the point of the karaoke mode on Apple Music on Apple TV… I thought i...

but then bluetooth microphone making brands would be out

bitter gull Jan 16, 2024, 3:00 AM

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has anyone bought an apple tv 4k gen 3 recently? wondering what tvos version it might be on

ionic copper Jan 16, 2024, 4:03 AM

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bitter gull has anyone bought an apple tv 4k gen 3 recently? wondering what tvos version it ...

on 16 but chances of doing anything other than KFD are extremely slim to none

storm ridge Jan 16, 2024, 1:10 PM

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@bitter gull
If you know the serial # printed on the back of the box, then you can use this site (free but with limited checks) to get the week of manufacture. This will then narrow down the likely OS that it shipped with.

http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html

vale yoke Jan 16, 2024, 1:13 PM

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I didn’t think that worked anymore don’t they randomize the serial numbers

ionic copper Jan 16, 2024, 2:55 PM

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Apples stocks be rising since kfd jailbreaks released

vale yoke Jan 16, 2024, 3:58 PM

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It has?

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Wtf is this then lol

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I’m losing money 😫

nocturne tendon Jan 16, 2024, 4:07 PM

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vale yoke Wtf is this then lol

💀

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how

forest raft Jan 16, 2024, 5:47 PM

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vale yoke Ok… wtf is the point of the karaoke mode on Apple Music on Apple TV… I thought i...

Wtf lol

ionic copper Jan 16, 2024, 6:11 PM

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vale yoke Wtf is this then lol

no wonder they're charging rent x2 for a computer

bitter gull Jan 16, 2024, 6:55 PM

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storm ridge <@305147483347222529> If you know the serial # printed on the back of the box, t...

Thanks. I heard the same that @vale yoke mentioned. It's now randomized. Have you been successful with using this site specifically for Apple TVs?

green basalt Jan 16, 2024, 7:08 PM

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bitter gull Thanks. I heard the same that <@171382948707303426> mentioned. It's now randomiz...

It doesn't work, I havent found any that are able to decode the serials after apple randomized them around april of 2021

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Which is a bummer because some of those gen 3's out on the shelf are 17.0. Would be great to have a way to tell before opening hte box

bitter gull Jan 16, 2024, 7:13 PM

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green basalt Which is a bummer because some of those gen 3's out on the shelf are 17.0. Would...

You bought a gen 3 recently and confirmed it was 17.0?

green basalt Jan 16, 2024, 7:22 PM

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bitter gull You bought a gen 3 recently and confirmed it was 17.0?

Yes at best buy

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Gonna try again at target, I figure they probably dont move as quickly there

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also searching facebook marketplace but thats such a hellscape of people posting saying they have modern 4k's when it is a gen 1, or they have no idea what version it is.

vale yoke Jan 16, 2024, 7:34 PM

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I know a guy on FB marketplace that still has like 20 4K 3rd gens left on various versions between 16.0 and 16.6

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Except 16.5… because I bought them all lol

green basalt Jan 16, 2024, 7:35 PM

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haha fair enough, that was the hot model before the most recent development

green basalt Jan 16, 2024, 7:36 PM

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vale yoke Except 16.5… because I bought them all lol

hey stupid question, have you paired an apple tv using misaka with the ios version?

vale yoke Jan 16, 2024, 7:38 PM

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Ya

green basalt Jan 16, 2024, 7:40 PM

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I'm trying to figure out if I'm gonna be able to make all this work, and the only non TVOS device on the right versions I have is an ipad on 15.8. I've put misaka on it but I don't see anything marked toolbox or apple tv connect. Wondering if you could snap a screenshot of where that is. I'm thinking maybe it isnt in the iPad version, only the iOS version of misaka.

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that or I'm just blind

vale yoke Jan 16, 2024, 7:42 PM

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Yeah, I couldn’t find it at first either

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After you KOPEN on the Apple TV, go to the packages tab at the bottom and press the box in the bottom left

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Should have an Apple TV connect button in there

green basalt Jan 16, 2024, 7:43 PM

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oh does it only show up after it's on the ATV?

vale yoke Jan 16, 2024, 7:43 PM

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It’s not very intuitive

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Possibly. I think it only appears after it detects the Apple TV on the network

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It’s here

green basalt Jan 16, 2024, 7:47 PM

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ahhhh! there it is

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thank you!

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ya that is... super not intuitive

vale yoke Jan 16, 2024, 7:48 PM

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The Connection is very slow. anytime you hit a button it can take five or so seconds to respond so just give it time

green basalt Jan 16, 2024, 7:48 PM

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and the instructions the misaka website are not at all helpful. if it said "Packages > Toolbox > Apple TV Connect" I feel like i'd have had a decent shot at finding it

vale yoke Jan 16, 2024, 7:49 PM

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I didn’t know wtf “Toolbox” meant lol

green basalt Jan 16, 2024, 7:49 PM

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good to know, that said not a problem, happy someone is making strides for the often forgotten ATV!

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I dont think I could go back to not having retroarch and kodi on there. I do enjoy some of the other stuff that having NitoTV for all these years has enabled, but not having the other two would be a substantially different experience for me.

storm ridge Jan 16, 2024, 8:02 PM

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bitter gull Thanks. I heard the same that <@171382948707303426> mentioned. It's now randomiz...

It was a few years ago when I used it to buy my 4k's and yes it was reliable. Can't confirm how it is today. Worst case you return it if it isnt

green basalt Jan 16, 2024, 8:08 PM

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storm ridge It was a few years ago when I used it to buy my 4k's and yes it was reliable. Ca...

Ya I've used it in the past, and it was super helpful! but apple changed all of their serial numbers starting with devices produced after about April 2021. If it isn't random as far as I know no one has managed to decode it yet.

ionic copper Jan 16, 2024, 8:49 PM

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Why tf are we investing in devices with no USB ports?!

bitter gull Jan 17, 2024, 1:56 AM

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green basalt Gonna try again at target, I figure they probably dont move as quickly there

please report what you get at target if you do it. i think i'll try target too if there's some success reported

uneven wraith Jan 17, 2024, 12:20 PM

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green basalt Ya I've used it in the past, and it was super helpful! but apple changed all of ...

it is random

vale yoke Jan 17, 2024, 2:35 PM

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I wonder what happened to Nic. I was looking forward to seeing if the HomePods could be fixed 😞

forest raft Jan 17, 2024, 4:14 PM

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green basalt I dont think I could go back to not having retroarch and kodi on there. I do enj...

Did you get kodi to work with builds?

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Couldnt never get it to work

ionic copper Jan 17, 2024, 5:20 PM

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forest raft Did you get kodi to work with builds?

can only imagine how unpopular apple tv would be without kodi

storm ridge Jan 17, 2024, 6:59 PM

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@ionic copper
For anyone that wants just Kodi I know a few friends who just install it through the Play Store on their Android OS tv's, no additional hardware required. I don't like Android but for many it's an easier option than jailbreaking and jumping through hoops on an ATV.

ionic copper Jan 17, 2024, 7:00 PM

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storm ridge <@977078029236981770> For anyone that wants just Kodi I know a few friends who j...

yeah.. and you can never update android

storm ridge Jan 17, 2024, 7:07 PM

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@ionic copper
I know someone who has a 6 year old Sony and running the latest Kodi 20.3. I don't know what his Android version is but if he's able to install the latest Kodi after that many years it's almost on par with an ATV OS cycle (except for the HD which is on it's 9th OS).

green basalt Jan 17, 2024, 9:39 PM

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forest raft Did you get kodi to work with builds?

Yes, I updated to matrix back before it was available on NitoTV, but it did work, admittedly that was a while ago so my memory of the process inst great.

green basalt Jan 17, 2024, 9:39 PM

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bitter gull please report what you get at target if you do it. i think i'll try target too i...

Target ones near me were 17.0 as well, bummer

green basalt Jan 17, 2024, 9:41 PM

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storm ridge <@977078029236981770> I know someone who has a 6 year old Sony and running the l...

Fair point, I just much prefer the interface with the appletv, and my wife is annoyed having to juggle two remotes.

ionic copper Jan 17, 2024, 10:48 PM

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green basalt Fair point, I just much prefer the interface with the appletv, and my wife is an...

I'm sure a lot of wives juggle 2 remotes 😉 /s

pulsar mango Jan 17, 2024, 11:06 PM

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vale yoke I wonder what happened to Nic. I was looking forward to seeing if the HomePods c...

Likely dealing with other things atm

vale yoke Jan 17, 2024, 11:40 PM

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Ya I figured. I hope he's doing ok after that bad accident 😢

vale yoke Jan 19, 2024, 1:11 AM

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I haven't even had this Apple TV out of the box for 5 minutes and the power cord has already dissapeared...

crisp crater Jan 19, 2024, 1:11 AM

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me every time I move a cable

vale yoke Jan 19, 2024, 1:11 AM

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Pretty much all my shit doesn't have the original cords because the originals all fucking dissapear -_-

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I swear my fat ass cat horks them down when im not looking

crisp crater Jan 19, 2024, 1:12 AM

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💀

vale yoke Jan 19, 2024, 1:12 AM

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I think he also ate the dongle for my fucking mouse cant find that either

crisp crater Jan 19, 2024, 1:13 AM

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interesting

vale yoke Jan 19, 2024, 1:13 AM

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Imma take his ass to get an xray one day

crisp crater Jan 19, 2024, 1:14 AM

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there's gonna be a mac pro in there

ionic copper Jan 19, 2024, 4:04 AM

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vale yoke Imma take his ass to get an xray one day

inb4 stomach full of copper and plastic

uneven wraith Jan 19, 2024, 10:00 PM

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crisp crater there's gonna be a mac pro in there

trash can mac unboxing

vale yoke Jan 20, 2024, 5:45 PM

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I FINALLY got these damn thread lightbulbs to connect with the Apple TV as a home hub after like 3 days. I was just getting nothing but "unknown error occurred" and "Accessory could not be paired". Apple neglected to say anywhere that the Apple TV has to be on a 2.4 GHz network for it to work...

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My 2.4 and 5 GHz networks are seperated and the Apple TV was on the 5GHz only. But then I found a post about it and moved my phone and tv to the 2.4 network and it all worked instantly

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🤦‍♂️

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Why are we still forcing 2.4GHz in 2023??

ionic copper Jan 20, 2024, 10:24 PM

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brazen niche ah im an idiot. found my 13.4 board

I'm pretty sure it is??

brazen niche Jan 21, 2024, 1:43 AM

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Snazzy probably being semantic but yes it’s totally removable. I do it to all of the repairs

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Not something super easy / obvious but it’s definitely tough enough to withstand thousands of cycles at least

vale yoke Jan 23, 2024, 4:14 AM

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🤔

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Misaka developer trying to load Trollstore on Apple TV

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And wtf is this

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https://x.com/trollstoretv?

TrollStore AppleTV (@TrollStoreTV) / X

crisp crater Jan 23, 2024, 4:18 AM

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TrollStore for Apple TV

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trill

vale yoke Jan 23, 2024, 4:19 AM

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Apparently this guy has tweak injection working up to tvOS 17.0 with TS

tacit egret Jan 23, 2024, 12:41 PM

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hi guys i have ATV 4K 1st Gen which TVOS is the latest JB avalible ?

trim wagon Jan 23, 2024, 2:03 PM

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tacit egret hi guys i have ATV 4K 1st Gen which TVOS is the latest JB avalible ?

14.7

tacit egret Jan 23, 2024, 2:07 PM

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@trim wagon Ty

ionic copper Jan 23, 2024, 3:10 PM

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vale yoke Misaka developer trying to load Trollstore on Apple TV

Incorrect

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They're trying to load an ipa with no executable inside trollstore, but it's denied

vale yoke Jan 24, 2024, 12:28 AM

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Oh

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Damn, what is up with half of the apps on the App Store requiring tvOS 17 already 😫

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They are really trying to kill off 16 quick aren’t they

trim wagon Jan 24, 2024, 9:05 AM

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it's not apple tho, it's up to the devs

uneven wraith Jan 24, 2024, 2:39 PM

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vale yoke Damn, what is up with half of the apps on the App Store requiring tvOS 17 alread...

It's nicer to develop for newer tvOS

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i really wish I could make Spartan 15+, it would make many things much easier

vale yoke Jan 24, 2024, 2:50 PM

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All these cool networking tools are 17 only 😞

subtle swan Jan 25, 2024, 8:06 AM

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@uneven wraith https://github.com/WhitetailAni/Spartan
any plans on TS support?

GitHub

GitHub - WhitetailAni/Spartan: tvOS file browser made in swiftUI

tvOS file browser made in swiftUI. Contribute to WhitetailAni/Spartan development by creating an account on GitHub.

uneven wraith Jan 25, 2024, 12:40 PM

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subtle swan <@549288850971688960> https://github.com/WhitetailAni/Spartan any plans on TS su...

Early betas have tipas (no clue if they work)

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I took it out as xcode was giving me me build problems and there was no trollstoreTV

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Might add it back after I fix my broken af compression idk, i'm currently working on other things

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 1:06 PM

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subtle swan <@549288850971688960> https://github.com/WhitetailAni/Spartan any plans on TS su...

Oh so THATS what this guy is using. I was wondering wtf is Spartan

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https://x.com/trollstoretv/status/1750046040701731222?

TrollStore AppleTV (@TrollStoreTV) on X

Block OTA

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Looks like he has it working on tvOS 17 with TrollTV to block updates

uneven wraith Jan 25, 2024, 4:33 PM

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vale yoke Oh so THATS what this guy is using. I was wondering wtf is Spartan

I really need to fix it but fixing requires learning libarchive and i don't feel like it right now

trim wagon Jan 25, 2024, 6:35 PM

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looks like 17.4 might enable sideloading

unreal sand Jan 25, 2024, 6:39 PM

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trim wagon looks like 17.4 might enable sideloading

it doesn’t

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unless something is different for tvos, direct ipa sideloading isn’t supported

trim wagon Jan 25, 2024, 6:40 PM

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looks like alternative app stores need to be approved by apple

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maybe there's a way around that, let's see

unreal sand Jan 25, 2024, 6:40 PM

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unlikely given you need an entitlement to get an alternative working

lapis heath Jan 25, 2024, 9:55 PM

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ahhh fook me. I'm on 17.1

storm ridge Jan 25, 2024, 9:56 PM

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Trollstore for tvOS released!

crisp crater Jan 25, 2024, 9:56 PM

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my Apple TV enrolled in the beta program:

lapis heath Jan 25, 2024, 9:56 PM

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yeah :/

storm ridge Jan 25, 2024, 9:58 PM

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Will see if keeping my 4k's on 16.5 was worth it or not

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 10:08 PM

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WOO

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 10:12 PM

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is there a way to block OTAs on tvOS 16.1?

storm ridge Jan 25, 2024, 10:25 PM

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gilded fiber is there a way to block OTAs on tvOS 16.1?

#1196223809812971720 message

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 10:25 PM

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storm ridge Jan 25, 2024, 10:27 PM

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gilded fiber

/var/mobile/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist

After pairing with the iOS version of misaka, place this file in this path from the file manager

Then restart the appletv

blocked

And just in case, don't forget to turn off automatic renewals as well.

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There is a plist file in the original link that needs to be dropped in the location specified

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 10:31 PM

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oh its in the misaka server

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okay thank you

storm ridge Jan 25, 2024, 10:32 PM

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Yes

pine kiln Jan 25, 2024, 10:41 PM

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what versions does misaka support? the question mark in the tweet is kinda confusing me

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:25 PM

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pine kiln what versions does misaka support? the question mark in the tweet is kinda confu...

Misaka works up to tvOS 16.6. Trollstore should work up to tvOS 17.0 as well, but KFD was fixed, so there is no installation method for 4K 2nd and 3rd gen.

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Success!

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:33 PM

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vale yoke Misaka works up to tvOS 16.6. Trollstore should work up to tvOS 17.0 as well, bu...

how were you able to install? i have no idea what to do after sideloading misakatv and pairing with my phone

timid pewter Jan 25, 2024, 11:34 PM

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Can someone point me in the right direction to install on atv HD 4th gen on TVOS 16.2?

pine kiln Jan 25, 2024, 11:36 PM

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vale yoke Misaka works up to tvOS 16.6. Trollstore should work up to tvOS 17.0 as well, bu...

i have HD 4th gen, assuming that still has KFD?

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:36 PM

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You don’t need to pair it with your phone. Sideload MikasaATV version 5 from here

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https://github.com/straight-tamago/misaka/releases

GitHub

Releases · straight-tamago/misaka

iOS & tvOS customisation tool for KFD & MDC. Contribute to straight-tamago/misaka development by creating an account on GitHub.

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:36 PM

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pine kiln i have HD 4th gen, assuming that still has KFD?

Yes, KFD is based on the OS version not the hardware version. As long as you have 16.6 or lower

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:37 PM

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i downloaded and sideloaded this one

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:37 PM

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Yes

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:37 PM

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kfd only kopen'd once for me so i switched to mdc but theres no install trollstore option here

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:37 PM

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After you kopen, there will be a button that says install TrollStore.

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:37 PM

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okay ill try kopen again

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:37 PM

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I don’t know about MDC I would think it would work, but that don’t work on my version.

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:38 PM

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right yeah

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oh shit kopen worked

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:38 PM

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OH YA you need to have either the “Developer” or “TestFlight” app installed from the tvOS App Store

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:38 PM

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OHH

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:38 PM

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I would recommend developer

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:38 PM

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thats why those buttons were grayed out

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got it thanks

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:39 PM

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Just search developer in the App Store and download it, it uses that for the persistence helper, like tips on iOS

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:39 PM

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makes sense

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Apple Developer right

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:41 PM

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Yeah, this one

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:41 PM

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👍

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thank you so much the app was very unclear

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i thought the "developer" and "testflight" buttons were like credits buttons 😭

timid pewter Jan 25, 2024, 11:42 PM

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im getting no code siganture found...

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:42 PM

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Yeah… stright_tamagos first language isn’t English so some of it’s a little confusing lol

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:42 PM

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ah

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:43 PM

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After you install the persistence helper, you need to reboot the Apple TV, and then reboot it again after you install TrollStore.

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or at least I had to. Installing the persistence helper with misaka will just cause developer to crash until you reboot.

timid pewter Jan 25, 2024, 11:44 PM

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vale yoke Yes, KFD is based on the OS version not the hardware version. As long as you hav...

im getting an error

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:44 PM

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Once you’re done there, I recommend the Spartan file browser. I just installed the latest version with .tipa and it seems to work well. It’s a little glitchy, but it’s still in development lol

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https://github.com/WhitetailAni/Spartan/releases/tag/1.0.0.RC1

GitHub

Release 1.0 RC1 · WhitetailAni/Spartan

Final testing time! Things to check, specifically:

App icon switching, located in Settings
Mounting DMGs - untested, may cause problems!
Potential bug in root helper functionality identified
Plist...

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Just don’t go editing random files willy-nilly, because if you brick your Apple TV… RIP money lol

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:45 PM

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timid pewter im getting no code siganture found...

I’m not sure on that one I didn’t get that error

timid pewter Jan 25, 2024, 11:46 PM

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it says the identity uised to sign the executable is no longer valid

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:47 PM

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I just loaded it using Sideloadly with a Mac VM and it worked fine 🤷‍♂️

timid pewter Jan 25, 2024, 11:47 PM

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might have to try the mac..

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:48 PM

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Yeah, I can ONLY sideload to mine with a Mac… and I don’t own a Mac 😫

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:48 PM

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kopen is so unreliable 🥲

timid pewter Jan 25, 2024, 11:48 PM

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nver setup a vm for ahile

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:49 PM

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Spent like two days getting this damn VM to work. It’s laggy as hell but works well enough to side load, which is all I need lol

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:49 PM

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vale yoke Once you’re done there, I recommend the Spartan file browser. I just installed t...

gotcha

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i think ill use this to block OTAs after i get trollstore working

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because the misaka file browser is kinda glitchy with kfd and mdc

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:50 PM

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gilded fiber kopen is so unreliable 🥲

Make sure you are set to Landa. Landa has worked every time for me. At least on 16.5

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:50 PM

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ye im on landa

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it worked the first time i ever used it but i didnt have developer/testflight installed

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now its just not working

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either crashes the app or reboots the tv

stone crescent Jan 25, 2024, 11:51 PM

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Any good ipa’s ?

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:51 PM

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That’s just weird. KFD works perfectly fine on my phone and my TV 🤷‍♂️

stone crescent Jan 25, 2024, 11:51 PM

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16.6 landa works fine

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:52 PM

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im on 16.1 maybe its unreliable on that

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:53 PM

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Ah. Try MDC then that should be more reliable. I would think.

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:53 PM

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ya it should i think, but both develoepr/testflight buttons are grayed out

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i have both installed

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:55 PM

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Managed to snag two more Apple TV 4K 3rd gens on 16.4.1. Will probably hold onto them for like two or three months and then sell them on jailbreak swap lmao.

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:57 PM

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nice lol

gilded fiber Jan 25, 2024, 11:57 PM

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gilded fiber ya it should i think, but both develoepr/testflight buttons are grayed out

reboot fixed this 👍

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omgg the persistence helper

vale yoke Jan 25, 2024, 11:59 PM

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I’m currently looking for the file that stores the name of the thread network for HomeKit. I want to rename this shit lol. I’m hoping it’s just a plist somwhere.

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:00 AM

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vale yoke Just don’t go editing random files willy-nilly, because if you brick your Apple ...

But I should also take my own advice

timid pewter Jan 26, 2024, 12:05 AM

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ive got misaka on the atv but it says cannot install when i open it..

gilded fiber Jan 26, 2024, 12:05 AM

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vale yoke Once you’re done there, I recommend the Spartan file browser. I just installed t...

uhh this might be a dumb question but how do i get ipa/tipa files onto the tv 😅

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do you have to install via url?

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:06 AM

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There’s a button at the top right in TrollStore you hit that and then you have to type in the URL of the tipa

gilded fiber Jan 26, 2024, 12:06 AM

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ah okay

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:06 AM

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It’s a lot easier to just copy and paste it with your phone using the TV remote

gilded fiber Jan 26, 2024, 12:06 AM

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oo alright

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:06 AM

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Open the TV remote from the control center on your iPhone and you will get a keyboard and then you can just paste it in there

gilded fiber Jan 26, 2024, 12:06 AM

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i didnt think of that

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:07 AM

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anyone know anything interesting that can be done by just editing plist files? Like maybe some hidden menus or something

timid pewter Jan 26, 2024, 12:15 AM

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finally got misaka opening

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thanks all

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:19 AM

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Nice

stone crescent Jan 26, 2024, 12:21 AM

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Any modded Youtube tipa’s

timid pewter Jan 26, 2024, 12:23 AM

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what settings do i need in misaka to install trollstore

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:23 AM

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I don’t think so yet :/ but now that we have TrollStore, we should be able to get the decryptor running and start decrypting apps and injecting tweaks

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:24 AM

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timid pewter what settings do i need in misaka to install trollstore

None. You should just have to kopen and then install TrollStore

timid pewter Jan 26, 2024, 12:24 AM

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taking ages

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:27 AM

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It should be almost instant. What is it saying

timid pewter Jan 26, 2024, 12:28 AM

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failed to grab free pages goal

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rebooting and trying again

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using landa right?

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Getting this

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:40 AM

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That error means that KFD exploit doesn't work on that version then

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weird

timid pewter Jan 26, 2024, 12:41 AM

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hmm im on 16.2

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:41 AM

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May have to keep trying smith

timid pewter Jan 26, 2024, 12:41 AM

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ok

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just get a green screen and reboot on smith

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:46 AM

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ya it does that... a lot

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what does it say if you use MDC

timid pewter Jan 26, 2024, 12:47 AM

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MDC the developer or test flight is greyed out

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:48 AM

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You have Developer installed right?

timid pewter Jan 26, 2024, 12:49 AM

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Hmm how do I do that

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:49 AM

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vale yoke Just search developer in the App Store and download it, it uses that for the per...

Download it from the app store

timid pewter Jan 26, 2024, 12:50 AM

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Yep

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:50 AM

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and its still grey?

timid pewter Jan 26, 2024, 12:50 AM

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Yer

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:52 AM

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timid pewter Can someone point me in the right direction to install on atv HD 4th gen on TVOS...

Oh wait. MDC was patched in tvOS 16.2 thats why lol

timid pewter Jan 26, 2024, 12:52 AM

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I’ll try TestFlight

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super wierd

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 12:57 AM

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How is stright_tamago recording the screen of his Apple TV

timid pewter Jan 26, 2024, 12:59 AM

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i tried reinstalling misaka again

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no dice

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 1:01 AM

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since its an HD, at this point I'd just checkm8 boot that bitch and install the helper manually 🤷‍♂️

timid pewter Jan 26, 2024, 1:02 AM

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yer ill try that just didnt wanna use the mac

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 1:36 AM

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ok so you can use Filza's built in WebDAV server to get your own IPAs into the tvOS Trollstore

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This one I was trying to load was a damn ZIP file and TrollTV couldn't open it. Download the IPA with Filza, start the WebDAV server, and then install it like this

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http://[YOUR PHONE IP]:11111/var/mobile/Downloads/[IPA NAME]?mode=download

stone crescent Jan 26, 2024, 1:40 AM

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Phone ip? Or appletv ip

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 1:42 AM

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Your phones IP since the web server is on your phone

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And if the IPA name has spaces you need to either rename it and take them out, or replace the spaces in the URL with %20

stone crescent Jan 26, 2024, 1:43 AM

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Sounds logic. Thanx

stoic crown Jan 26, 2024, 1:57 AM

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Is 16.6 supported?

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 1:57 AM

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Yes

stoic crown Jan 26, 2024, 1:59 AM

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I’m getting the same failed to grab free pages goal as ralfmalph. Reboot and try again?

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 2:02 AM

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maybe? I'm not sure it worked the first time for me lol

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what Apple TV?

stoic crown Jan 26, 2024, 2:02 AM

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Same as him as well. 5,3

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 2:04 AM

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I'm thinking there's something wrong with KFD or Misaka on Apple TV HD then. Your probably gonna have to boot it with the SSH RAMDISK and install it manually.

stoic crown Jan 26, 2024, 2:08 AM

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Trying that now.

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Hmm. Seems that tool doesn’t support Apple TV

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I just get “An error occurred”

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I’ll keep trying

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 2:23 AM

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Yeah, you can’t use the iPhone one. But I don’t know where to get the SSH RAMdisk for Apple TV. ZenZeq would know

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 2:52 AM

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Stright_Tamago just posted TrollDecrypt for tvOS

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https://twitter.com/straight_tamago/status/1750711831667392727

しまりん🍡🍨 (@straight_tamago) on X

TrollDecrypt for tvOS Recompiled
https://t.co/LiXywCcusD

crisp crater Jan 26, 2024, 2:59 AM

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vale yoke How is stright_tamago recording the screen of his Apple TV

probably QuickTime Player

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I think it has the ability to see the screen of tvOS devices

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 3:15 AM

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ok well... it appears to be working but I can't actually get the file off of the tv lmao. It airdrops it and then doesn't go anywhere :/

uneven wraith Jan 26, 2024, 3:23 AM

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vale yoke Yeah, you can’t use the iPhone one. But I don’t know where to get the SSH RAMdis...

sshrd_script can make them

uneven wraith Jan 26, 2024, 3:23 AM

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crisp crater I think it has the ability to see the screen of tvOS devices

it does

distant fox Jan 26, 2024, 3:31 AM

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Smh too bad I updated my HD to tvOS 17

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 3:31 AM

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vale yoke ok well... it appears to be working but I can't actually get the file off of the...

Got it. The TrollDecrypt airdrop function doesn't work for some reason, but if you install Misaka with TrollTV so it can run unsandboxed you can export it with Misaka's file server

stiff stone Jan 26, 2024, 3:43 AM

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is there a step by step guide on how to install this? I have iphone with misaka, and a Windows PC for sideloadly.

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 3:54 AM

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Sideloadly on Windows will not work, it needs to be the Mac version as Apple TV will only pair wirelessly with a mac.

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I had to make a MacOS VM with VMWare to get it working

stiff stone Jan 26, 2024, 3:58 AM

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Ohhh I can do that. Thanks

storm ridge Jan 26, 2024, 4:15 AM

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vale yoke Managed to snag two more Apple TV 4K 3rd gens on 16.4.1. Will probably hold onto...

Interesting... this works on 4k 3rd gens too? I thought only 1st gens.

pastel minnow Jan 26, 2024, 5:21 AM

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By any chances if this implementation could work on ATV4GEN 14.4 ?

uneven wraith Jan 26, 2024, 6:23 AM

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This should work

📎 com.whitetailani.spartanTS_1.0.0-RC7-nightly-20240126001851.ipa

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for tsTV

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I have not tested it - I cannot right now

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but it has proper handling for trollstore limitations, along with using the TS provided function to spawn root helper

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 6:55 AM

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pastel minnow By any chances if this implementation could work on ATV4GEN 14.4 ?

only 4k

stone crescent Jan 26, 2024, 9:14 AM

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Sideloading the ipa works. Installing with TS gives error. Kodi ipa

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trim wagon Jan 26, 2024, 11:41 AM

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stone crescent Sideloading the ipa works. Installing with TS gives error. Kodi ipa

does the dumping also work?

stone crescent Jan 26, 2024, 11:44 AM

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yes

trim wagon Jan 26, 2024, 11:47 AM

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nice

stone crescent Jan 26, 2024, 11:53 AM

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Yt ad free

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Yattee

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prisma zodiac Jan 26, 2024, 1:16 PM

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I’m going to try replacing checkrain with troll store on my Apple TV that way I don’t have to redo it every time the power goes out.

stone crescent Jan 26, 2024, 1:29 PM

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prisma zodiac I’m going to try replacing checkrain with troll store on my Apple TV that way I ...

What do you have installed with checkrain ?

prisma zodiac Jan 26, 2024, 1:29 PM

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Kodi

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I’m on like 14.6

golden marsh Jan 26, 2024, 2:03 PM

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hello

gilded fiber Jan 26, 2024, 2:33 PM

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not for piracy but for preservation

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 2:33 PM

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Wait there was Minecraft for Apple TV???

gilded fiber Jan 26, 2024, 2:33 PM

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there used to be yeah

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 2:33 PM

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Omg I hope someone can dump that

gilded fiber Jan 26, 2024, 2:34 PM

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i don't think it would run on tvos 16 though actually

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https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Apple_TV_Edition

Minecraft Wiki

Apple TV Edition

Minecraft: Apple TV Edition was the version of Bedrock Edition designed to run on tvOS. It was announced on October 27, 2016, officially released on December 19, 2016, alongside the Fire TV...

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it came out in 2016

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 2:35 PM

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Here come the pirates..

gilded fiber Jan 26, 2024, 2:35 PM

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no like genuinely just dump it and keep it to yourself

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it's better than it being lost forever

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 2:36 PM

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stone crescent Sideloading the ipa works. Installing with TS gives error. Kodi ipa

Nice piracy

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 2:37 PM

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prisma zodiac I’m going to try replacing checkrain with troll store on my Apple TV that way I ...

Terrible idea

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Jailbreak > trollstore

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 2:38 PM

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Why not just replace the developer app with the Trollstore helper using checkra1n lol

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 2:39 PM

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gilded fiber not for piracy but for preservation

I believe the app is paid so yeah, that is piracy

earnest grotto Jan 26, 2024, 2:40 PM

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is it piracy if you don’t distribute it?

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 2:40 PM

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was. Now it’s abandonware 🤷‍♂️

earnest grotto Jan 26, 2024, 2:40 PM

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if you just keep it to yourself for archival purposes, it should be fine no?

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 2:41 PM

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earnest grotto if you just keep it to yourself for archival purposes, it should be fine no?

We all know that's never the case

earnest grotto Jan 26, 2024, 2:41 PM

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but that’s not our problem

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 2:41 PM

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Cause one person asks.. Then it's spread

earnest grotto Jan 26, 2024, 2:42 PM

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sure, but you guys are acting like the act of dumping it is piracy itself which isn’t the case

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 2:43 PM

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earnest grotto sure, but you guys are acting like the act of dumping it is piracy itself which ...

It's not dumping that's bad, it's folks redistributing it after that is

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 2:43 PM

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I’ve been trying to find a YouTube tweak deb that works on YouTube Apple TV but no luck 😞

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 2:43 PM

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Which is what they do

earnest grotto Jan 26, 2024, 2:43 PM

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ionic copper It's not dumping that's bad, it's folks redistributing it after that is

correct, but Mars specifically said “dump it and keep it to yourself” and then people got all up in arms about it

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 2:44 PM

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earnest grotto correct, but Mars specifically said “dump it and keep it to yourself” and then p...

Granted that's the case for them, we all know it's never for the others

stone crescent Jan 26, 2024, 2:44 PM

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ionic copper Nice piracy

What app i use is 🏴‍☠️ ?

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 2:44 PM

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stone crescent What app i use is 🏴‍☠️ ?

Streamer

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 2:44 PM

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golden marsh hello

Welcome 😁

stone crescent Jan 26, 2024, 2:44 PM

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ionic copper Streamer

Oh yeah thats true

vale yoke Jan 26, 2024, 2:45 PM

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Technically so is MAME 🤷‍♂️

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 2:45 PM

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vale yoke Technically so is MAME 🤷‍♂️

Nah, the roms are

stone crescent Jan 26, 2024, 2:45 PM

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Emulators are not 🏴‍☠️

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Roms are

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 2:45 PM

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Technically so is kodi

stone crescent Jan 26, 2024, 2:46 PM

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Kodi is just a media streaming. Adding pirate repos is 🏴‍☠️

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 2:46 PM

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You're supposed to dump your own collection to use in said emulators

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But everyone is too cheap and lazy to do it

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So they download them

ionic copper Jan 26, 2024, 2:47 PM

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stone crescent Kodi is just a media streaming. Adding pirate repos is 🏴‍☠️

That's why it's a technicality