#futurerestore-help
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You can update (not downgrade) to unsigned iOS versions without blobs for up to 90 days by installing SupervisedEnabler and downloading the appropriate profile from https://dhinakg.github.io/delayed-otas.html.
Yes to install supervisedEnabler
To be guaranteed an untether, if we can update
Which is the best one?
To choose of profile?
In case of compatibility with Fugu, the untether
ok i see 2 profiles i am confused with the dates what that mean? OS 14.7.1 (12.12.2021) and iOS 14.8 (25.10.2021)
only 14.7.1 works?
The dates listed is when the profile is invalidated and no longer usable
So 14.8 is unusable
Seemingly
No
Ok so only way is verifying if my other friend on iOS 11 saved his blobs for 14.5.1
Anymore?
But it’s a way of updating to iOS 14 and skipping 15
Yes sure
Yeah
i update because my firmware 13.7 is to old and i want to update to ios 15 is bugy
But you can jailbreak on 13.7
True
Good luck jailbreaking
I said so the only way for my (other) friend on iOS 11.X is to check if he has blobs for 14.5.1 or something for an untether?
Don’t say I didn’t warn you
Hi
What
Hello
I have another friend on 11.something, I wonder if he has 14.5.1 blobs or even 14.3 or 14.4
Then he should be able to restore with latest SEP AND baseband?
He’s on iPhone X
dont work faceid incompatible the restore never finished
i mean sep baseband
the restore will finish with patches just faceid wont work and literally everything is broken
yeah but with broken roofs
What do you mean @grim wren ?
It’s definitely impossible to futurerestore now with a Fugu compatible firmware?
That has correct blobs
you can restore. Just it most likely will break everything starting from faceid and not ending there
i think you need some kind of patches for the restore to even just finish on A12
Oh ok well someone here told me only faceid broke
On A11*
its the same story just for every faceid enabled device
thats true
Since it was an iPhone 8+ (so Touch ID) it should be ok? Since no Face ID? Or same problem?
only touch id works
That for my girl, friend
test it with iphone 8
lastest sep bb is compatible
We’ll try it I guess as soon as she has a USB to set the nonce
On Linux futurerestore
i think touchid devices actually survives futurerestores
On 8+
Thankssssss
I hope so so much for her
She updated because of me I feel like an idiot
I hope they won’t unsign as of tomorrow or the day after
Do you think that’s possible?
We’re still figuring out a way to get a flash drive
That would suck
A11 iphone 8 and plus and lower devices future restore works with sep bb compatible from 15.1 to downgrade to 14.x firmware everythink works great after restore touch id too
Thanks a lot
I hope this will at least work for a week from now
As we will have difficulties getting a f*cking flash drive
why do you need a flash drive
To boot to a live Linux distro and set the nonce
On pwndfu
As she’s on Windows
i try it on windows works fine
You can pwndfu on Windows???
windows updated futurerestore is on its way
i used the future restore gui
Really like, do you have a official GitHub?
no only on mac posible pwndfu
That would be really appreciated
cryptic is currently working on the build, its not available just yet but it is in fact in the works
i was update from 13.5 to 14.3 on iphone 8 wit sep bb from 15.1
Omg do you know how I can follow him on his work? Of course not asking ETA no worry
whis ios do you has if ios 15 above you must set the nonce with mac
i mean he has a twitter and a github account
Yes but apparently the Windows updated one is on its way!
i dont know about the pwndfu and set nonce capabilities but functional futurerestore is coming for windows
@ebon oliveus do you have a mac?
Ok I’ll try to follow him there, in hope it gets finished soon before we are obligated to get a flash drive
Alright thanks a lot!! 🙏
Do you think I can ask him about that functionality without being redundant? I don’t want to bother him but I’m between two walls
next time he's online you could inquire
Alright, again thank you very very much! @grim wren and @celest basalt
I’ll ask very quickly and try not to bother
Sorry for the last inquire but is crypti1c his username?
I’m incredibly sorry for bothering everyone here sincerely
Hey I have a question, I really don’t know mich about downgrading, so I’m sorry if my question is stupid or something like that, but I have a iPhone 6S+ on iOS 14.8 (Checkra1n) but I’m very interested to test Fugu14, but it’s only with 14.5 compatible, so is their a way to downgrade? And if it’s possible how?
I know that I don’t have nothing with that blobs or how ever it is called🤭
you cant test fugu14 anyway
you need an A12 device (anything above an iphone XR/XS) to do it
Oh… I thought that Fugu is for every Device😅
!t futurerestore
futurerestore allows you to upgrade/downgrade/restore to unsigned iOS versions if you meet certain requirements.
Tutorials:
Tutorial
Video Tutorial
Links:
FutureRestore GUI
Latest stable version (194)
Latest beta version
There are currently no pre-compiled beta builds for Windows.
Has someone a iphone X decice? Can you test the 14.8.1 ota files sep bb buildmanifest files to restore to 14,x
i cant test because i dont have iphone x device
Username on this server please? Is it the same on Twitter/GitHub?
So 15 sep is compatible with a10 devices and won’t break anything, right?
even if you had blobs it would break faceid
You need blobs to downgrade and 15 sep isn’t compatible with 14
I have blobs
no thats not how it works
^
I thought 15 sep only broke broke faceid. Or is that old news?
sep is secured
lockdown can add a passcode but can easily be defeated with a reboot
There are tweaks for basic stuff but they are not great
no
SEP is a literal chip in your phone with separate firmware of iOS
@celest basalt it’s simple, if you didn’t save blobs when 14.6 was signed then you can’t downgrade to that, if that’s what ur asking
Blobs are unique to the device
Not how it works
it doesnt work tbh you are stuck if you want sep features
There’s no “universal blob”
Yeah
We didn’t make the device
Well it is what it is
without blobs you are stuck no matter what anyways
From the Microsoft store?
Bruh
!t itunesicloud
Download links for iCloud and the latest version of iTunes
Older versions of iTunes for Windows and macOS can be found here
Ur clicking thee wrong link
It. Won’t. Work.
you can not downgrade no matter what its that simple
You. Do. Not. Have. Blobs. The. iOS. Is. Not. Signed. Anymore. You. Can. Not. Downgrade.
Yes.
yes
rule 12
!t eta
Can I jailbreak?
There is no jailbreak for A12+ devices (iPhone XR/XS and later) on 14.6+.
There is no jailbreak for A8X - A11 devices (iPhone 6S - iPhone 8/X) on 14.4+ without a computer (see: !jb checkra1n).
There is no jailbreak for iOS 15.
Wen eta?
We don't know and please don't ask. This includes asking for news, progress, changes, updates, etc. You will be pinged in #announcements if anything important comes up.
Does my device support checkra1n?
Check here.
What should I do while I wait?
Save blobs!
Please disregard shady/unknown sources which state otherwise! Once a jailbreak is released it'll be in #announcements.
Well there is an exploit, that’s all we know
We are not devs
Turn off auto updates and wait
It’s not public
Yet
So wait
Trying to update to 14.4.2 ipad pro wifi only! getting this message! I have blobs ! "SEP firmware is NOT being signed!"~can anyone help
Which ipad pro
a12x
Are you specifying unsigned sep?
no i just followed the guide at future restore , no talking about sep there!
i have set to lastest sep
I'm trying to update my jailbroken iPhone 12 from 14.2 to 14.5.1. I've been attempting to use future restore 2.0.0 via terminal. I have the blobs and I've been using the latest SEP and Baseband. However it fails with an "Unable to restore device" error. Is there something else I should try to troubleshoot or is it not possible to update from 14.2 to 14.5.1?
thats the most generic thing ever
could you like post the log instead of giving zero context
typical cryptic flex
Show us your log, which error code is it and what’s your command you’re using
I just tried Futurerestore from 13.2 to 13.7 on my iPhone 7 Plus; ended up being stuck in recovery mode. Tried force exiting out, among other things, to no avail. If I share the log from it, would it be of any use to figure out what went wrong?
ios 13 sep/bb isn’t signed you can’t restore to ios 13
You have to restore to the latest version unfortunately
Ah, that must have been it. I was told I could by some folks on reddit.
They must have been mistaking then
rip
Yeah i think so
Darn, I should have done that, then
But I was told my device wouldn't have an issue with what I was trying - lesson learned
From what I understand, checkra1n devs is working on an iOS15 version; but I suppose that could take a while
Interesting - so if I have my 14.2 blobs, I can still get my JB back?
Theoretically, at least
yeah if you have a mac
Ditto - I can do that. Seems like not all is lost!
No harm in trying since you have to go to latest anyway
my phone is currently restoring my iCloud backup during the 15 setup; would it be better to skip it and just try a fresh install with that downgrade method?
doesn’t matter but i guess you should skip so you don’t have to wait for it to finish restoring
if you even can skip it? i didn’t know that was possible
Once I downgrade to iOS 14, will I encounter a setup screen as well?
Yeah I think so - some restore nothing option or something
yeah
Awesome - might as well skip this one, then
Thanks for sharing that with me - I'll give it a go!
Only reason I even tried the update was because my ebay app stopped working, haha
I figured the writing was on the wall - sooner or later other apps would do the same
Yw & goodluck
wish I could offer more help but i’ve only fr’d from 15 -> 14 on a11
You've helped lots - usually A10 devices have an easier time, I think
So I think I ought to be alright!
Say, do you know if it works on M1 Macs?
I know checkra1n doesn't like USB C to Lightning cables. Could never get it to work
It’s very annoying to do anything usb on an m1
Always had to use my intel Mac
Apple broke usb in Big Sur 11.3
So all 3rd party apps that use usb don’t always work
Running Mojave still, so should be ok
Damn, didn't know that happen - not surprised though
Mojave was a bad os imo
Yup, hence why I kept that one
This might be a silly question, but looking over my ios 14.8 blobs - I have two, but can't tell what the difference is between them
Show the file name
I think the end of the file is the nonce iirc
So it’s probably just a different nonce or smth
Someone will have to correct me on that
I know it’s wrong
One ends in cc
They’re both usable
The other in ae
future restore on iphone 11 pro max 13.5 to 14.5.1 will break faceid right?
Correct
Got an AssertionError with ipwndfu. Did you encounter anything like that, @celest basalt?
I’m more qualified here
Your help's very much appreciated
Assertion error is literally and error that says there’s an error
so we need the full context
ECID leak
Device is in recovery mode and tried running ipwndfu
I take it that's a bad thing to let out - thank you for the heads up
Not really a bad thing, the worst I can do is save blobs for you
Not that I even know your device
You monster
I will save blobs for you to rid you of the joy of saving blobs

Copy, I'll give that a go
Not in pwned DUF. Exploiting now...
Looks like it worked
DUF 
@hardy pebble did you rmsigchks
I appreciate the humor

You’re gonna find out if you didn’t rmsigchecks successfully either way
Yeh then you good to set nonce in fr
And either one of the blobs that I downloaded should work, is that right?
There’s no real difference between the blobs functionality wise
They’re both blobs
Both should work
Much appreciated. Running fr now
And then I go back, uncheck the two boxes and run again?
On the guide it said I'd end up in recovery mode
But....I didn't
Just plain ol' iOS15 again
fr's console says "futurerestore process ended"; Current task says "Sending iBEC"
Trying it again - Fugu telling me "Exploit Failed! Did not enter pwned DFU!"
All you can do is retry the exploit lol
Show more context
What is your computer username
Guess you don’t get any more context
Sorry, I was afk
I was able to get into pwned DFU mode
After multiple retries
The fugu step gave me:
Patching SecureROM: FAILED!
Filed to send patch!
This usually means that the patches have already been applied
And then the device boots to iOS 15
So no need to run that step, I take it? When running futurerestore, it just boots into iOS15
FR log: 'Unable to send iBSS component: Unable to upload data to device"
Thought so, too. Tried two different ones
Yeah, can't get past that
Also the phone keeps pushing itself out of DFU mode all on its own. Does it only stay in that mode for a certain period of time?
If you enter dfu mode while the phone is already booted up, usually on iPhone X, unknown reason why, it reboots after 60 seconds
Enter dfu mode while it’s booting (don’t let it finish booting) to counteract it
which Baseband file do i use cause thier is 2
You aren’t supposed to be providing your own @stone oxide
then how do i get it
––latest–sep ––latest–baseband
ive tried that but it keeps giving me error -22
How would I know what that refers to
Please stop xyprobleming
Post the full context
alr gimme a sec
Log^
Wtf is wrong with you lol
Why are you using 3 year old software that’s for iOS 12…
Lmao
Please use the updated version
The pins
And her
!t futurerestore
futurerestore allows you to upgrade/downgrade/restore to unsigned iOS versions if you meet certain requirements.
Tutorials:
Tutorial
Video Tutorial
Links:
FutureRestore GUI
Latest stable version (194)
Latest beta version
There are currently no pre-compiled beta builds for Windows.
oh whoops i didnt realise xD
I’m the maintainer follow my Twitter for updates
Eta when windows beta testers
Everytime i use windows i get THIS SEP FIRMWARE IS NOT BEING SIGNED + This device isnt elegible for the requested build
Version: 0ab9df3209ee599f581532d05d331e6abe0f53f3 - 194
img4tool version: 0.197-aca6cf005c94caf135023263cbb5c61a0081804f
Odysseus support: no
[INFO] 64-bit device detected
futurerestore init done
reading signing ticket C:\Users\RJMC0\Desktop\futurerestore\1826396337922094_iPhone10,3_d22ap_14.4.2-18D70_27325c8258be46e69d9ee57fa9a8fbc28b873df434e5e702a8b27999551138ae.shsh2 is done
user specified to use latest signed SEP (WARNING, THIS CAN CAUSE A NON-WORKING RESTORE)
[TSSC] opening firmwares.json
[DOWN] downloading file https://api.ipsw.me/v2.1/firmwares.json/condensed
[TSSC] selecting latest firmware version: 15.1
[TSSC] got firmwareurl for iOS 15.1 build 19B74
100 [===================================================================================================>]
[TSSR] Checking BuildIdentity 0
[TSSR] Checking BuildIdentity 1
[TSSR] Selected BuildIdentity for request
downloading SEP
100 [===================================================================================================>]
[TSSC] opening download/sepManifest.plist
[TSSR] Checking BuildIdentity 0
[TSSR] Checking BuildIdentity 1
[TSSR] Selected BuildIdentity for request
[TSSR] User specified to not request a baseband ticket.
Request URL set to https://gs.apple.com/TSS/controller?action=2
Sending TSS request attempt 1... TSS server returned: STATUS=94&MESSAGE=This device isn't eligible for the requested build.
ERROR: TSS request failed (status=94, message=This device isn't eligible for the requested build.)
futurerestore: failed with exception:
[exception]:
what=SEP firmware is NOT being signed!
code=16908296
line=258
file=main.cpp
commit count=194:
commit sha =0ab9df3209ee599f581532d05d331e6abe0f53f3:
AKA
Out of date windows futurerestore moment
Hopefully cryptic can get the windows build up and working soon
i litterly just downloaded the latest version
unless that isnt the latest above
The stable version is obsolete
is thier a beta windows version
Cryptic is working on the windows version
oh k
Hopefully it gets working soon
well i have linux but it doesnt detet my iphone when it enters recovery mode
yea apparently its usbmuxd
Hey guys, I'm going to be upgrading from 13.3.1 to 14.4.1. Will I be able to keep my data?
Why do people never tell us the device
Ah sorry, Iphone 11 standard
you can keep data but you will lose faceid for any iOS 14 version
Yeah I don't use that anyway
So how would I keep my data? Someone mentioned using -u but is there a guide for it?
Use an iTunes local backup then restore
Or use -u
Which is, scary, sometimes allegedly
Hi Guys ( and gals)!
I need some guidance.
I have iPhone 6S Plus on iOS 15.0.2 jailed.
Can I set nonce and future-restore to iOS 14.4 ? I have blobs.
Yep you just need a mac
I have a VM BigSur. I tried this nonce setter : https://github.com/rA9stuff/a9-checkm8-nonce-setter
boots patched iBoot then sets apnonce on s8000/s8003 - GitHub - rA9stuff/a9-checkm8-nonce-setter: boots patched iBoot then sets apnonce on s8000/s8003
But I got this error :
dyld : library not loaded: /Usr/local/opt/libusbmuxd/lib/libusbmuxd-2.0.6.dylib
Referenced from: <executable-file-path>
Reason: image not found
abort trap: 6
~I am missing something obvious.
I think I am not fulfilling dependencies. I am an ignorent on osX

Don’t use the wrong tools
Not checkm8 nonce setter 
The very first pin is the guide

Will defo try out. I don't care about touch id.
okay, so I want to upgrade from 14.2 to 14.4, I'm completely new, so is that even possible atm?
If you don’t have blobs then it’s impossible
I do
XS max
If you have your nonce set then go for a downgrade
I kinda wanted to try fugu
Dunno why you’d want to trade a very stable jb for one that uh “works”™️
Should I mention faceid go bye bye if you proceed with this
what
Using futurerestore on faceid enabled devices breaks faceid until you return to an iOS 15 version
It’s not gonna get fixed…
Apple finally got smart against downgrades
ok
Apple moment 
Can i downgrade with FR from ios 15.1 to ios 14.4 iPhone X. i know Face id will break.
If you’re trying to go to 14.4 for Fugu14 don’t bother
Fugu14 doesn’t work on anything iPhone X and below
But if you wanna go for it
Yes, with a very angry rootfs
angry rootfs mean?
Why do we tell this guy every fucking day the same answer to the same question
We do?
Yes
I just answer questions like a zombie
10/10 genius 
Wasn’t that long ago that this man’s iPhone was crippled
he prolly just had to put it into dfu and restore lol
Or pwndfu did a pwndfu and crashed 
is there a futurerestore windows version i couldn't find it in github
i want to update from 13.5 to 15.0.1 with my iphone XS and wait there for a while without breaking my face id... which sp and bb works with 15.0.1 =
Yes. Now its alive
You can just install linux... use SEP 15.0.2 and above
Is there any known issue when I future Restore my iP11 Pro (13.5 jailbroken) to 14.5.1 (fresh)? ... I mean like maybe FaceID no more working or any other issue? Or will everything work perfectly? I do have valid blops with APnonce ofc. Thanks in advance. (Ah yes, I‘m on Mac OS 10.14.6 Xcode installed, if that matters)
Hi, While trying FR-GUI for my iPh6SP from 15.0.2 to 14.5, should I tick 'Set nonce to blob' ? Thank you.
Hello. If futurerestore is used to go back to iOS 14 from 15 using the manual sep and bb from the ipsw, does this break Face ID completely as in not able to be used again or just not on the current version? I can live without face id if that is all that would be lost.
it will break Face ID until you restore/update to iOS 15
Okay, thank you for the info
is the window version from CoocooFroggy not working ?
Hi, While trying FR-GUI for my iPh6SP from 15.0.2 to 14.5, should I tick 'Set nonce to blob' ? The pinned guide says ( https://gist.github.com/nyuszika7h/aac55c97f7925cddcf5ec3167f85dfe8 ) : nonce is set automatically. But FR-GUI offers an option. Which is corret way of attempting the downgrade? Thanks.
the set nonce option is used if you ONLY want to set nonce and not also immediately restore
pwned restore will set nonce regardless
if you use set-nonce, it will stop the process as soon as the nonce was set and then you have to disable pwned restore and set-nonce and run again
only the A10 instructions recommend it that way because someone had issues with pwned restore there, but other than that it's faster to just pwned restore directly in one step
Linux shouldn't get that issue as much as Windows, it's usually rather caused by something not being fully correctly done with pwndfu... you can try to make sure usbmuxd is installed and running in case that helps but if it wasn't it probably wouldn't even get that far
if you're on Ubuntu or some other distro that uses systemd, try sudo systemctl restart usbmuxd
Interesting - thanks for the tip! I did not know this. I wonder if that's why it kept failing on me.
No matter what, I couldn't finish the futurerestore and the phone would boot up; could be because of what you just said. I'll try it again later today. Thanks for the tip!
Damn it, i future restored my iphone x from 15 to 14.8.. it all went well and i installed my usual apps. Then my little brother wants it so i gave it to him.
That little freak just put a passcode on my device and now i cant unlock it. He swore that the passcode is 0000 and he said that he just cant open it woth that code.
Do i need to restore to 15 again?
I cant run future restore because it cant find my device... i cant trust the connection coz i cant get past this psscode screen
“Cant init, no decice found”
Im on mac and windows..
I cant connect my device because i have to press “trust” whenever i want to connect to my computer but i have this passcode screen and i camt seem to press anything
if you want to be able to use Face ID then yes
For peak compatibility in terms of how flexible your JB options are, is it best to stick to <=A10?
Shat the bed with my 7P; but I'm able to get my hands on a decent X, but the A11 doesn't seem to be as flexible. I primarily have used checkra1n in the past.
What is the meaning of “ if u downgrade to IOS 14, u will get worst rootfs” what is the meaning of worst rootfs
there will be no rootfs snapshot so unless the jailbreak creates for you or you do it yourself, you can't restore rootfs (though Succession still works)
Thanks. I will not fiddle around that option then.
But then, do I need to run ./eclipsa8000 for my A9 phone from a Mac?
yes
Let me try my luck. I've have a Big-Sur VM. I hope it's modelled as intel mac.
Thanks for the confirmation.
I have a Kubuntu VM as well. Will the same eclipsa binaries work? I set USB passthrough successlly on all my VMs.
guys version upgrade with futurerestore will cause face id not to work?
Yes
ok. got it. I will try linux live on my windows intel pc. Do I have to compile the eclipsa? I can't use the Mac binaries, I guess....?
I don't think it can be compiled for Linux rn
either try if passthrough works on Windows host (doubt) or Linux live + macOS VM
only successful use of checkra1n in a VM I'm aware of is Linux KVM/QEMU host with USB passthrough to macOS guest, so anything using checkm8 would be the same
so I need to be jailbroken to downgrade even if I have blobs correct?
@celest basalt you always need an exploit yes
they are used for updating to an unsigned jailbreakable version or downgrading from another jailbreak to a better one
thats why you should still save
@celest basalt
Let me try on Win host + Mac guest. Or else I have to install VirtualBox on Linux Live.
yeah ik... I was just stupid and force reset my phone cause I forgot my passcode and it forced it to 14.8 when I was on 14.4.2 and now I lost my chance at the first jailbreak in months lol
Well guess i'll be back in another month lol
it doesn't affect Touch ID
only Face ID breaks
well SEP does matter for Touch ID but what I mean is there are no issues for now
weirdly enough usually SEP incompatibility either breaks Face ID only or prevents restores entirely
can you upgrade from ios 14.0.1 to ios 14.3 with this
Upgrade to iOS 15 instead of 14
As long as you go to an iOS 15 version it doesn’t break
But I want to get fugu 14
Apple has brought this issue upon us
I don’t think we can fix it
You either upgrade and lose faceid, or don’t and stay with faceid
I’ll stay I guess
Yah
If I read along a bit, it is not possible to update from ios 14.3 unc0ver 6.x to ios 14.4.2 and use unc0ver 7.0.2 because of SEP and baseband right?
another genius thought it was a good idea to ask a support question without stating what device they have...
Sorry iPhone 11 pro max
you will lose faceid
why are you that impatient to wait for an update that will clearly support 14.3...
Actually, I'm about stability improvements and if there is an unc0ver update that supports 14.3, I'll be happy to wait
Will they ever support iphone x on 14.4.1 imma cry 😢
I swear we need to pin the you will lose faceid, and have a sticker that’s just “check pins” with a fr emoji
I also like to wait until maybe a jb for ios 15.x

11 pro max
If I do restore to 14.5.1 from 13.7 I will lose faceid like in upgrade?
Yes
Rip
And you can’t go to 13.7 anyway
I’m on 13.7
It was clear 🙃
Soooo
No porting to iOS 13 rip
No update, im fucked on this device
What device I can upgrade to 14.5.1?
iPhone 6s Plus
iPhone SE (2016) x2
iPhone 7 Plus
iPhone X
iPhone 11
@grim wren
The ones without faceid
The only one capable of Fugu14 is the iPhone 11 anyway
Which I assume you’re trying to upgrade for
you can update with ota delay method without breaking face id
How?
But they’re trying to go for 14.5.1 for Fugu14
Any ver with fugu is fine
14.3-14.5.1
ah thaht not posible
?
You can just go to plain old iOS 14.7.1
ota delay only works wiht signed profile
yeah OTA delay lowest is 14.7.1 now
thats mean 14.7.1 for now
For some reason 14.8 expired before 14.7.1
always says expired yesterday or today
No untethered for me rip
You can update (not downgrade) to unsigned iOS versions without blobs for up to 90 days by installing SupervisedEnabler and downloading the appropriate profile from https://dhinakg.github.io/delayed-otas.html.
They don’t even say expired the date has just passed
if you choose the 14.8 profile you see ota update ios 15.0
FutureRestore nightly is the last current version and will be further adapted if there is an ios 15 jb?
Could it be left that way?
What
If there is an ios15 jb, is futurerestore possible again for newer versions?
Ty
alr cool
ty
the reason is
I don't know if I should update
currently on 13.6
but wanna see benefits of ios 14
although iOS 15.0.2 might be unsigned within a few hours
so should I do ios 15.0.2
well either way, note that futurerestore with iOS 15 SEP will break Face ID
so you will only be able to downgrade with broken Face ID after "checking it out"
I don't recommend it
faceid is broken anyways lol
oh
well it kinda messes with rootfs snapshot stuff too but that's patchable
also breaks OTA updates
meh
but that may be a feature 
I don't update anyways
as you can see
so wait
if the blobs were unsigned when I downloaded them it won't work right?
I don't remember when I downloaded them
uh, blobs don't get unsigned, IPSWs do
it doesn't matter when you downloaded an IPSW, it will still get unsigned eventually, they won't change the file
if SEP/BB is compatible yes
alr cool
14.3 and up works for iPX (just broken Face ID)
also, if you just want to check out iOS 15 then it doesn't matter what version you go to, because you won't be using the SEP/BB of the currently installed version for futurerestore either way, you always have to use a currently signed one regardless of what you're currently on
well I have an ios 14.6 blob
I don't think I can get a blob for ios 14.3 which would be ideal
because I could still use something other than checkra1n
yeah well, for 14.5.1 or below you could use Fugu14 untether once it gets updated to support A11 and below, but 14.6 may get another semi-untether eventually with the IOMFB bug
futurerestore to 14.x with 15.x SEP only breaks Face ID, but checkra1n also doesn't let you use passcode and Apple Pay while jailbroken on 14.x on your device
true
I don't use apple pay
but passcode would be annoying af
I wish there was a tweak that would add a passcode wall
there are tweaks to fake it but that's not secure, someone can just reboot your phone
depends on your threat model tbh, it can work against someone just snatching it out of your hand who's too dumb to try to reboot it or something
but doesn't really protect against actual thieves
true
technically, for actual thieves, if you're fast enough you can still set a passcode remotely via Find My
that's a good point
welp
I guess I'm gonna try to update
this better work lol
if it doesn't I'm gonna be very sad
when locking via Find My it will just reboot the phone and then apply the passcode once it's unjailbroken
anyway, if you want to try, the tweak is called "lockdown beta"
alr
ty
I guess I'm gonna try this now
checkra1n has been buggy asf
so
if checkra1n isn't working
Imma be sad
also ik wrong channel but why hasn't checkra1n been updated in a couple months?
because it works fine on 14.8.1 and below and they don't want to make a release just for a version bump
and iOS 15 is more challenging than usual, so it takes a while
basically iOS 15 has a thing called Signed System Volume, if you modify anything on the rootfs you bootloop, so all jailbreaks will have to be rootless now
checkra1n could technically go the easy way and just patch the check out easily but then the jailbreak would become fully tethered (if you reboot it's a brick until you connect it to a computer to JB again) and they don't want that
I guess that makes sense now
thanks for the help
gonna go make a bootable checkra1n usb
how do I fix SEP firmware is not being signed?
By using the beta instead of obsolete 194
!t nightly
thank you
wait shoot I'm on windows :p
welp
I have no idea what I'm doing
ig I'm downloading ubuntu
can anyone help me? my phone is iphone 6s
FR 194
Futurerestore 194 is obsolete and very angry with existence
Updated windows version is coming soon
last month i restored with futurerestore 194 successfully
and futurerestore gui (by coocoofroggy) is not working
Guys, no signs of upgrading from 14.3 to 14.5.1 on A14 devices, right? 😬
not without losing Face ID
i dont think that futurerestore will work with ios 15
I know this will sound crazy, I do have blobs, but would it be a reasonable idea to use the delay OTA to go to 14.8 if I am currently on 14.3? as I assume this will keep my SEP, I also dont mind being out of the jailbreak game for a little while, but would rather be on the highest firmware that's feasibly jailbreakable, or would it just be a better idea to hold out for an update to futurerestore?
i think we will need to wait for a new futurerestore
i am downgrading from ios 14.7 to ios 14.4
i have blobs, sep and baseband is compatible
I dont think you can, without breaking faceid right? as the SEP that is used would be the latest 15.X one?
the sep for 15.x is compatible with 14.x , right?
Partially
im using iphone 6s, so i hope it will compatible
its fully compat with iPhone 6s
If I update from 14.3 to 15.0.1, should I use fr beta version?
you need to wait for the windows beta, or live boot linux
you literally have to @rocky rover
thanks
but why would you leave untether version
I would like to try iOS 15 on my iPhone X and wait for JB. Because I have JB on another iPhone 😀
ok
Can I future store from iOS 14.2 to 14.5.1
I have blobs save but what is the sep I hear about
do you have face ID?
I have Face ID
are you okay with it not working?
Why does it not work
cause of the SEP
Ohh there is no other way without breaking Face ID
cryptic idk how you deal with the whitenames in this channel
I have to wait for a iOS 15 Jailbreak to not break Face ID
in essence, is the only way to have Face ID work upgrading via delay OTA method to 14.8?
@blissful belfry only for updating you can't downgrade to 14.8.x
wait for new checkra1n now
pretty sure it is... well it was 5 days ago, if you had to choose between upgrading to 14.8 for the features, or sticking with untethered on 14.3, which would you choose?
i think 14.3 is better
fair enough
valid point, its the nuances that get you 🙂
so im trying to upgrade from 14.3 to 14.5.1 using fr and i was on windows and when i was asking for help it supposedly was because of windows being poopy but now im on arch linux and still getting "sep firm is not being signed"
and you've restored to 14 with 15 sep you also cant use delayed ota @blissful belfry
I haven't gone to 15 yet, but thanks for the warning hah, I used delayed OTA to go from 14.2 to 14.3 when it was annouced and they called me crazy, regardless, weighing my options :/
and yes im fine with losing face id
are you using beta FR
i dont think so
v1.94
oh is it "setting>GUI updates"
i think it’s titled fututerestore beta in the settings
if you’re using fr-gui
That’s FuturerestoreGUI’s
version
waiting for a new futurerestore
im able to start the process but i get to a certain point called "waiting for device disconnect" and a bit after it the terminal box it says waiting for device to connect within recovery mode but it never detects it
and when it is in recovery mode it says "cant init, no device found"
im pretty sure it has something to do with usbmuxd
because it isnt designed to communicate with apple devices other than in normal mode
damn ig i have to wait for the new windows vers
yea or try to get idevicerestore and run that as root
wym its there?
yea but i cant wait for the windows beta
i’ll try that out
Hello, i was wonder if its possible for me to futurerestore from 14.1 to 14.5 or 14.5.1 for untethered on my 12 pro max
It’s “possible”. you will lose faceid and rootfs snapshot will break iirc
I havent seen ANYONE use a ip12 so thats why im trying to make sure its safe
hey cryptic I was reading the pins and i was wondering do i need to extract the SEP/BB from the 14.8 ipsw cause i have face id and im using v194
just to confirm
Fr?
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Shit
so basically you cant future restore on windows
I got a macbook
I mean theres an extremely buggy alpha build
If i lose faceid and all that shit forget it 😭
buggy smuggy
Alpha build release wehn 
i dont care loseing face id
If it was an older iphone i wouldnt care but i got tweaks that use faceid so
So ig no untethered for the time being ugh
Untether will eventually support lower versions you just need patience
im desprate to get back to 14.4.2 so i can get at least checkra1n
Imma stay on 14.1 then cause i havent had any real issues aside from using batchomatic then unjailbreaking it messes everything up
And doesnt work correctly
actually i have blobs that go back to 14.4
can i go from 15.0.1 to 14.4 with an Iphone X
oof
Pretty sure u cant futurerestore without being in jb state? Or am i wrong cause i could probably at least get my iphone x to whatever the last ios version checkra1n supports
well at least my ipad is jailbroken so i can use that instead
👍🏻
wait what versions does uncover support currently is it still up to 14.3
Its on his website
Also why is there a checkra1n symbol next to my name i use unc0ver 🤔
@oak rapids thats not what tethered means
broo my pc fell asleep and it ruined the whole process
it takes less than 8 minutes how can it fall asleep
its set at 5 minutes
i completely forgot to change it
now im stuck at the apple logo
oh now im at data recovery
data recovery is suppose to happen lol
i have a quick question when i use futurerestore gui it asked me if i want to use the latest sep and baseband
btw i am trying to update from ios 13.5 to ios 14.5.1
on a iphone xr
You will lose faceid if you proceed
will i have to manually change it
No you will just, lose faceid if you use futurerestore to go to an iOS 14 version
Apple backhanded iOS 14 faceid
no they didn't
its not their fault
should i just say on 13.5
its not intentional
I wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out it was intentional though 
yes
I need some help with FR’ing my iPhone 6 from 12.5.5 to 11.3.1
you can't
can i downgrade with futurerestore 10.3.3 ota blobs?
without pwndfu?
kms
well
fkc
i dont have a mac
and hackintosh doesn't work properly, soo rip
Ipwndfu works on Linux doesn’t it
Gotta do what you have to do
I'll try it more from different ipwndfu forks
I’m pretty sure 14.8.1 Sep/bb will be “unsigned” anyway due to the update being based on AltSU
It’s an ota update
So you download the OTA zip
I don’t know where any links are, other than for the iPhoneX(10,6) which I have a link for on hand
If you want
how did u extract
ive got up to 10,6 but the rest are probably on iphonewiki
Hello! How can I downgrade an iPhone SE 1st gen from 15.0 to 14.3 with blobs on Linux Ubuntu 20.04.3 please? Can someone point me the direction?
The nonce setter I found is for Mac only.
Step 1: get in pwned dfu mode somehow
Step 2: use futurerestore beta to set nonce 
Do you have any link? I’m very very newb. Like I had futurerestored before following tutorials. But I’m very confused with this actual situation. The old tutorials does not applies here
Thank you for now 

pwndfu isn't enough, you need sigcheck patch
yeah but eclipsa is macOS only
probably yeah
Omg. So much tech conversation. I’m frustrated. I can’t understand all of this. I’m about to enter the long journey of setup a hackintosh. I hate this. So much work 
Got an ipad pro 1 gen and would like to downgrade from ios 15 to jb it
is there some guide on sepbb
!t sepbb
Currently you can restore to the following versions with the latest SEP and baseband for your device:
Devices that only support up to iOS 12 (most A7 and A8 devices excluding iPad5,1 - iPad5,4): 11.3-12.5.5
A9 and A10: 14.0-15.1
A11 devices:
- iPhone 8/8 Plus: 14.3-15.1
- iPhone X: 15.0-15.1 (restoring to 14.3-14.8.1 will break Face ID)
A12 devices and newer:
- iPhone SE (2020): 14.0-15.1
- Other devices: 15.0-15.1 (restoring to 14.0-14.8.1 will break Face ID)
For restores on devices that support iOS 15 you currently must use the latest beta version of FutureRestore, see !t futurerestore for a link.
!t futurerestore
futurerestore allows you to upgrade/downgrade/restore to unsigned iOS versions if you meet certain requirements.
Tutorials:
Tutorial
Video Tutorial
Links:
FutureRestore GUI
Latest stable version (194)
Latest beta version
There are currently no pre-compiled beta builds for Windows.
Dont really understand, in order to jailbreak I want to downgrade how can i add the sources then 😄
My device is A9
if you're on iOS 15 then follow the guide in the pinned messages instead
thx
Accordingly to this a9 is only supported on macOS right? So am I screwed ?

well yes for the eclipsa part you need macOS rn
everything else can be done on Linux though
not like that helps much if you already have to get macOS set up for eclipsa
I have virtualbox with macOS installed
But I think that usb is a problem
you have to enable USB passthrough but even then it probably won't work properly on a Windows host
Unless you get a KVM going under Linux you won’t have very good chances of usb working properly
Thank you very much. And for the hard work!
I will setup a hackintosh. I was just avoiding at all costs
Whytho
Because I just use macOS when needed. Which almost never happen.
Fair enough
are 15.0.2 SEP and BB compatible with 15.0.1? I am on 15.1 and want to downgrade to 15.0.1. I can get the SEP and BB files from 15.0.2 and use them with the buildmanifest from 15.0.2 to downgrade to 15.0.1. I got the blobs and IPSW. Will this work?
using FR on a Mac
iPhone 12
Or can I downgrade to 15.0.1 using latest SEPBB. I also have the 15.1beta 3 files
either is fine
well the problem is
you need a nonce setter
Just tell A13 to be compatible with checkm8 smh
you can only go to 15.0.2 (IOMFB patched) or 15.1b1-b3 (unpatched but annoying beta alerts and possibly buggy)
!t betaalert
If you stay on an old iOS beta version (RC not included) for too long, after a few weeks you'll start seeing an alert like this every time you unlock your device or swipe away the notification center.
If you're jailbroken, you can use NoBetaAlert to disable it. Otherwise, the only way is to set your date back or update.
iPhone 12
A13
./eclipsa
Waiting for the USB device with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227```
Any idea why its not finding it ?
Its in DFU Mode and also shown in the finder ...
Host Controller Driver: AppleT8103USBXHCI
iPad:
Product ID: 0x12ab
Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
Version: 6.03
Serial Number: xxxxx
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/s
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Location ID: xxxx / 2
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 500
Extra Operating Current (mA): 1000
Sleep current (mA): 1500
Apple Mobile Device (DFU Mode):
Product ID: 0x1227
Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
Version: 0.00
Serial Number: xxxxx IBFL:1C SRTG:[iBoot-2481.0.0.2.1]
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/s
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Location ID: xxxx / 1
Current Available (mA): 500
Extra Operating Current (mA): 0
The VID on the macbook is 0x5ac but eclipsa is searching for 0x5AC ?
Just read myself a little bit in to this. Is the iPhone 12 (isn't it A14?) checkm8 compatible?
no
checkm8/checkra1n will never support A14 and above
A12-A13 has an astronomically tiny chance because it wasn't fully patched but impossible to reach without finding a new memory leak
@celest basalt could you help ?
@lone valley try this
changed it to sudo ./eclipsa still waiting...
I use the macbook m1 if thats maybe the reason
Ez just reenter dfu 4 billion times for a13
you need the killall commands
to leak one (1) bit of memory
killall -STOP AMPDevicesAgent AMPDeviceDiscoveryAgent MobileDeviceUpdater; sudo ./eclipsa; killall -CONT AMPDevicesAgent AMPDeviceDiscoveryAgent MobileDeviceUpdater
Just like that
not working
wifi or anything on the ipad needed ?
Probably (not) the last question.
Downgrade to 15.0.1 using latest SEP and BB will be possible, but no FaceID, right? When a 15.0.1 jailbreag arrives I will use Bioprotect
I think 15.0.2 is the last signed version
So only drowgradeable to that
using 15.0.1 blobs
idk about this 😄
I give it up its not detecting my device i disconnected all other devices and in the terminal it also shows that it is properly connected
x code installed everything
I woudl appreciate any help
Hi, While applying eclpsa, My BigSur VM is stuck at
stage: setup
stage : setup ret, 0x5
is that normal ?
My iphone 6sp is rebooted into normal state
If I’m on iOS 15.0.1 can I downgrade to iOS 14.6 if I have the blobs?
what's your device
you're on a14 with no nonce setter, you can't do anything other than downgrade to 15.0.2 via itunes
idk why you went from 14.3 to 15.1 in the first place 🤦♂️
LOL
AirTags support
i mean i guess
I was under the assumption I can downgrade to 14.5.1 using FutureRestore. I know I would loose FaceID. Do you mean, I cannot downgrade to 14.5.1 this way? If not it is shit, but I will survive of course
there's no jailbreak for 15.1 on a14 and there's no way to set your nonce with an alternative tool so there's no way to downgrade to 14.x
aaah. I did not take the nonce into account. Thanks for your reply. Done with jailbreaking for the timebeing.
somebody plz
I got same message. I took out the cable and reattached. It worked.
@lone valley, please let me know how it goes.
Sorry to hear that. I am using readymade ./eclipsa8000
Yes, they are for intel and they start process on my VM. But I am not sure if my VM is recognised as an intel machine.
I am also waiting for a further action. Many of the supporters are american. Let us see when they come up.
But normally it should work on m1 macbook as it supports macos
Also my device is recongnized, just eclipsa dont want to see it 😄
Ah, that's something different. I am a complete ignorent on osX.
it says at least 0x05ac but eclipsa searches for 0x05AC if that would make any difference coulndt find anything myself in the source code
damn i upgraded to 14.5.1 and no im trying to downgrade to 14.4 i get apnonce does not match apticket and i cant jb since i get unsupported when trying to do the untethered method
anyone have a link for futurestore?
!t futurerestore
futurerestore allows you to upgrade/downgrade/restore to unsigned iOS versions if you meet certain requirements.
Tutorials:
Tutorial
Video Tutorial
Links:
FutureRestore GUI
Latest stable version (194)
Latest beta version
There are currently no pre-compiled beta builds for Windows.
Hey just asking a quick question please, I just wondered if Fugu14 was unofficially supported on Unc0ver 7.0.2 for devices on A11 or lower maybe (in my friend’s case iPhone 8+ so A11) or if she better wait for a Taurine upgrade of some kind for a better approach? Or if I’m mistaken and the untether is already available for A11 or less? Thanks!
Because from what I’ve read it’s A12+ only for Fugu14 on the official GitHub so I’m a bit confused
If it’s definitely not available for now do we know for sure if Coolstar has a plan for A11 and less (For Fugu14 untether)? Or nothing?
A11 and below will be supported eventually, just need to install the untether via a pre-existing jailbreak there
Ok I’ll delete my other posts
Ok so that means I just need to either follow Unc0ver or Taurine upgrades but I can’t expect it to be supported now by neither of them? But I need to wait right?
Sorry again for the ping I should’ve answered
This was answered/asked to you
Or is it already supported on pre-existing jailbreak (in that case only Unc0ver that I’m aware of)?
Sorry for my misunderstanding, English isn’t my native language
Hi,
Can someone please help me ?
While applying eclipsa to my iPh6SP, My BigSur VM sends lots of data. Here is the link : https://pastebin.com/SezCPqp6
Then it is stuck at :
stage : setup, ret: 0x5
Then my iphone is kicked out of dfu mode and reboots into normal mode.
Is that alright ? Or should the phone stay in DFU mode?
Have I successfully applied eclipsa?
Well.
I assumed eclipsa is successfully applied. Then I tried FR-GUI. As per the sticky I ticked 'Pwned restore'. But FR said there is no pwn-dfu associated with this version of FR.
FR Log says : unknown option -- use-pwndfu
Where do I go from here?
Thanks!
-Gamma
Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.
I see many people are needing more help in that topic and I might have asked in the wrong channel as #xinaa15 seems better suited, should I repost there instead (and delete every other messages)?
I can’t jb since I’m on 14.5.1 and everytime i do the untethered process o always end up with unsupported within uncover
Also xr
I'm getting that using my A10 going from 15 to 14
Anyone knows anything?
Does rmsigchks only need to run once? Even after a full wipe and restore, running it says that the patch is already applied
@celest basalt any idea why its not detecting my device ? A M1 issue ? (terminal finds it just not eclipsa)
