futurerestore-help

[zealous bridge]

sudo bcert new /path/to/BCert.pem

[celest basalt]

ah yes even more kids whining about no passcode JB

because A11 BPR shit is on A12+ too

[mild mural]

https://seprom.fun

[celest basalt]

while fixing sep*

[mild mural]

thought that site existed

[celest basalt]

wait when restoring i saw a PersonalizedBundle

does that mean restore worked

[green onyx]

nah our best bet is having ios 14.8 ota signed and using it's sep and bb in a restore

[celest basalt]

i couldn't grab it

[royal flint]

https://securerom.fun

[green onyx]

did finder let u restore?

[celest basalt]

no

[green onyx]

so its unsigned

[celest basalt]

some really weird error happened

permission error

never seen before

[stuck wraith]

hi, i'm on ios 13.5.1 and i didn't update to 14.8 in time. i have saved blobs but i have no idea how to use them since the process seems complicated. I have an iPhone 11 not jailbroken

[mild mural]

A14 seprom

[green onyx]

not possible yet

[zealous bridge]

Screenshot

[stiff hazel]

just stay on 13.5.1 and (if you want) jailbreak

[celest basalt]

you can’t anymore unless you’re willing to lose Face ID, and either way you’d be waiting several months for a JB if you don’t have 14.0-14.5.1 blobs

is this unsigned

yes

yes

[zealous bridge]

This means it’s unsigned

[celest basalt]

since when did they change the error wtf

[stuck wraith]

guess i'll have to stay on 13.5.1 for a while

[zealous bridge]

Always been like that

[celest basalt]

they did a while ago but on macOS only

or maybe was always that? idk

[royal flint]

that's verbatim from tss

[celest basalt]

wen eta 14.8 on 13 pro max????

I know Windows is different

error 3194

[celest basalt]

it used to show a random error

[mild mural]

guess i'm riding out 14.3 forever unless checkra1n team come thru

[green onyx]

more likely: we use ota sep and bb

[celest basalt]

is macOS TSS response somehow different? because tsschecker says “This device is not eligible for the requested build”

i guess im riding 14.5.1 forever unless checkra1n team co- wait i have an untether

[mild mural]

is ota signed

[green onyx]

does anyone have ios 14.8 ota zip for 10,6

[celest basalt]

mope, maybe delay OTA but not regular it seems

[zealous bridge]

Ipsw.me

[mild mural]

i have 14.8 ota for 10,3

[celest basalt]

get it off ipsw.me

[green onyx]

oh ye i forgot

[celest basalt]

https://updates.cdn-apple.com/2021FallFCS/patches/071-97965/9E82A2A3-6495-4906-9B18-878C68FA06CD/com_apple_MobileAsset_SoftwareUpdate/cb1b4fa5356a8dbd6835410b0f4d342550aeed42.zip

[royal flint]

i don't think that's verbatim from tss

[zealous bridge]

ota.me

[celest basalt]

iphone 10,6 best

[mild mural]

global > gsm

[celest basalt]

no

[mild mural]

yes

[celest basalt]

gsm > global

gloabl is ew

[mild mural]

stupid americans

[celest basalt]

6 > 4

10,6 > 10,4

[green onyx]

wait

did 14.8 ever have beta versions

[royal flint]

actually my memory seems hazy

[celest basalt]

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201442

[valid adder]

if this hack it will be pog

[royal flint]

hmpf

[green onyx]

what r u even doing

[valid adder]

secret black magic

[green onyx]

[celest basalt]

trolls

[valid adder]

think a13 rose fix but for a11

[zealous bridge]

Bruh

Backup firmware

[green onyx]

[zealous bridge]

I remember that fix

[celest basalt]

wait is A11 the only phone broken with 15.0 sep

[green onyx]

no

A11+

[celest basalt]

we’re not sure about iPhone 8 and A12+ yet

[mild mural]

what's a13 rose fix

[green onyx]

cryptic doing da A11 savage fix now

[celest basalt]

trying it now especially on A12+ would be basically a suicide mission

[stuck wraith]

ok but why "yet" what do i need to wait for? sorry i never used futurerestore

[celest basalt]

unless already on 15 or something

[green onyx]

its not possible currently because sep and bb dont work

just ask again tmr

[zealous bridge]

My mums a11 should be on 14.4 still

Has blobs up to 15.0.1

[celest basalt]

how u gonna set nonce on 15 🤨

[green onyx]

wait, u and ur mum traded phones already?

[zealous bridge]

Ages ago

[green onyx]

freeze nonce

[stuck wraith]

ok thanks

[green onyx]

and grab a fresh blob

[zealous bridge]

checkm8 nonce setter

[celest basalt]

on A12

[valid adder]

a legendary fix that no one appreciates how legendary it is

[zealous bridge]

o

[celest basalt]

[green onyx]

freeze nonce and grab a fresh blob with that nonce and use it

[celest basalt]

well you can’t grab a fresh blob for 14.8- anymore so rip

ratio

[green onyx]

true

[celest basalt]

unless someone updated to 15 and then saved blob with nonce freeze already

[zealous bridge]

Technically I’m not wrong just find a memory leak

[mild mural]

fix A11 sep

[valid adder]

a11 sep isn't broken at all

other than restoresep bullshit for 14.4.2 and lower

[zealous bridge]

How are they gonna do all of this TSS gfuckery and not give us a signing party

greedy fuckers

[royal flint]

I need to save battery ping me if needed

[green onyx]

ok

[valid adder]

I highly recommend you look at my a13 rose fix

those were some really fun times

[celest basalt]

i want a11 sep

[valid adder]

we have a11 sep

u dumb?

[celest basalt]

with checkra1n

[valid adder]

oh

yah that ain't happening

[celest basalt]

L

didnt we get lucky with blackbird tho

[valid adder]

no

[green onyx]

huh

[celest basalt]

how did someone find it

[green onyx]

i found ios 14.8 bb in ota

but no sep

[valid adder]

a11 introduced integrity tree

so blackbird isn't exploitable

[celest basalt]

just cut the tree

[green onyx]

nvm found sep too

[celest basalt]

@valid adder how did someone find blackbird tho

[valid adder]

updating stockholm sweden firmware

[celest basalt]

also is it a hardware thing?

[valid adder]

[valid adder]

static analysis

[celest basalt]

iPhone SE - Sweden Edition

[zealous bridge]

Updating Stockholm Syndrome Firmware

[celest basalt]

they should make an iPhone PE for Poor Edition

and make it under $200

so right now you can use 15.0 sep with A11 but you don’t get face id?

[green onyx]

yes

[celest basalt]

that isnt worth it lol

and it’s fixable?

no

[green onyx]

maybe

[celest basalt]

iPhone PE now available for $199, but no touchscreen

that issue is not fixable

but we might be able to work around it

[green onyx]

cryptic is trying to apply his A13 rose fix to A11 savage

it might work

it might not

[mild mural]

iphone pee

[celest basalt]

So I can't future restore to 14.3/14.5.1 right now without fucking up Face ID?

[zealous bridge]

Sold seperately

[green onyx]

yes

[zealous bridge]

Home button sold seperately

[celest basalt]

Oh fuck

[zealous bridge]

And power button

[green onyx]

its $200 for the chassis only

another $300 for the screen

and a $100 for the battery

[zealous bridge]

How much for the soc?

I might need that ngl

[green onyx]

anyways

windows 11 released

[celest basalt]

ratio

[celest basalt]

waut what

[green onyx]

yes

[celest basalt]

o dam

[green onyx]

imma wipe my laptop

windows sandbox is pog

[spark geyser]

I have a very simple question if i'm still on ios 13.3 jailbroken can I upgrade too ios 14.3 without blobs?

[celest basalt]

no

[toxic lotus]

[celest basalt]

Theoretically, if Apple releases 14.8.1, would be its SEP compatible again for A11+?

[zealous bridge]

Hopefully

[celest basalt]

Let's pray 🙏🏿
I was thinking today that I could finally futurerestore to 14.3 from 13.5 and then said nah, I still have plenty of time ._.

[valid adder]

sep is already compatible

the issue is something else

@celest basalt

[zealous bridge]

It’s unsigned

[valid adder]

yes but 15.x is compat

something else in restore breaks

[celest basalt]

Aaah

[zealous bridge]

So it’s not Savage incompatibility

[valid adder]

it is savage

[zealous bridge]

So many mixed responses idek anymore

[valid adder]

savage != sep

[zealous bridge]

I know

I literally said that

.

[celest basalt]

it's easier to explain

partial incompat because it's part of SEP

just like "no SEP" for checkra1n is also a lie technically

[zealous bridge]

Yes but for people who understand the different firmwares it’s at least some sort of correct explanation

[zealous bridge]

Lol

[celest basalt]

why did Apple do this on the day I released the SEP finder bot

oh well it will still be useful someday in the future

maybe even now if latest is acting up for someone, though it shouldn't

Apple was like "shit, untether coming, let's cancel iOS 14 LTS plans even though it's already patched in 14.8"

apple moment

it makes sense to some extent because downgrading to 14.8 will bypass SSV and Face ID security fixes etc.

but why is regular OTA unsigned

that really only fucks with jailbreakers IMO

i checked on a 14.7 phone

14.8 shows

did you try installing it

its signed ota

no

update showing up != signed

uhh

you can quickly force reboot when it starts the update, after verifying update goes through

to cancel it

if you don't want to update

i will update it later

[celest basalt]

I mean normally unsigned updates don't show up unless cached but this is not really a normal situation

@royal flint why does your page go iOS 15 -> 12 -> 14

is it because 12 was updated more recently than 14 or

probably

[stuck wraith]

Guys I have 14.7.1 blobs for iPhone 11 on 13.5, still no way to update? Also I tried updating with iTunes to 14.8 but someone told me to stop because it would probably update to 15

[celest basalt]

by tomorrow we didn't mean "in an hour" even if it's technically tomorrow in some timezones

staying where you are is your best option

Wait wtf

iPhone PE tomorrow?

as I said, updating to 14.7.1 via futurerestore would mean:

1. no jailbreak until probably sometime next year
2. Face ID will no longer work

delay OTA update would avoid #2 and only have issue #1, but still, best to stay unless you need iOS 14 for app compatibility and are willing to give up jailbreaking for a while

[royal flint]

Apple order

P sure matches pmv

[celest basalt]

oh yeah

[celest basalt]

.

[stuck wraith]

I thought something would have changed with the fact that I have a different blob saved, i knew you guys didn’t mean literally tomorrow lol

Also what’s delayed ota?

[celest basalt]

doesn't matter, any blobs from 14.0-14.8 will have the same issue with futurerestore now that 14.8 got unsigned

!t delayota

[mystic axle]

delayota

You can update (not downgrade) to unsigned iOS versions without blobs for up to 90 days by installing SupervisedEnabler and downloading the appropriate profile from https://dhinakg.github.io/delayed-otas.html.

Added by nyuszika7h#0001 | Used 98 times · Jun 2, 2021, 11:53 AM

[stuck wraith]

This might be helpful since I don’t really need a jailbreak at the moment, thank you

[celest basalt]

[stuck wraith]

what

[torn violet]

Can anyone confirm if OTA blobs are unsigned too for iOS 14.8?

[torn violet]

https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/apple-will-let-users-stay-on-ios-14-and-receive-security-updates-even-after-ios-15-is-released/

[celest basalt]

OTA is also unsigned according to tsschecker, we haven't tried an actual update yet

[stiff hazel]

an actual update is being pulled

we just now need someone to actually try to update

[celest basalt]

yeah that's what I mean

[green onyx]

good bye

imma grab win11

[zealous bridge]

……

[stiff hazel]

use your common sense @spark geyser

[stuck wraith]

since I don’t want to mess things up, is there a more detailed guide on how to do this? obv not an expert here

[royal flint]

ok, im home

time to dOTA to 14.6?

[zealous bridge]

Yeah

[royal flint]

wait, is 14.5 supposed to show it

bc it turns out im on 14.5

good

yea 14.8 deffo shows

[stiff hazel]

now go try updating

[royal flint]

off we go

preparing

[stuck wraith]

my phone already shows 15.0.1 as an update, would delayed ota still work for 14.8? Do I have some time before I won’t be able to go trough with this thing? I’ve never done something like this actually so Idk

[stiff hazel]

you're on 13.5.1, it will show 15.0.1

besides don't update, just save blobs for currently signed versions and wait

!t blobs

[mystic axle]

blobs

How to save blobs

How to save blobs without a computer or a jailbreak

How to use blobs

If you're using a Procursus jailbreak your blobs are automatically saved weekly and can be found here or by running sudo shshd in a terminal.

@bleak birch is EOL and it is recommended you backup your blobs to iCloud Drive or another file host (b!tss download).

Added by nyuszika7h#0001 | Used 1052 times · Mar 9, 2021, 2:22 PM

[stuck wraith]

I used tss to save 14.7.1 and 14.8 blobs but it’s way too complicated to use them in future restore and I wanted to try this delayed ota thing which seems to be the most convenient since I’m ok with waiting for a jailbreak

[valid adder]

cringe

its not complicated at all

[green onyx]

^

[stuck wraith]

Yeah but I’m dumb I need special help

[valid adder]

theres a fucking gui

[green onyx]

^

[valid adder]

omg

[stuck wraith]

[royal flint]

@stiff hazel @zealous bridge @celest basalt hello tss say ok

i have blov

b

however uh

there is a BCert

i'm not sure whether it's because of 14.8 shenanigans or if it's bc im supervised

[stiff hazel]

probably the latter

what happens when you try to update to 14.8 without supervision or anything special?

[royal flint]

i can't

i have to wipe for that

[stiff hazel]

and why not wipe

[royal flint]

it's my mom's phone

too much of a hassle

[stiff hazel]

well does it have any special things apart from it being supervised?

(e.g. 1 day delay, etc.)

[royal flint]

nop

but if i yeet managed or bcert from the request it doesn't work

altho might be malformed

[valid adder]

can you like not

please never do that again

its really annoying

[toxic lotus]

do what

[valid adder]

disrespectful

[humble musk]

what

[toxic lotus]

oh

[valid adder]

I won't say unless they respond

@spark geyser

[stiff hazel]

@royal flint I’m gonna sound really fucking stupid here but isn’t there a way you can use mitm to make a request?

[royal flint]

i can't make a proper one

it'd be no better than tsschecker

[stiff hazel]

is it cause no jailbreak or because it’s supervised or because you’re running into other issues

we know both Pallas and Supervised (with nothing else) allow for 14.8

[valid adder]

there will eventually be something better than tsschecker

[royal flint]

i have no clue whether i can actually fiddle with a supervised request without it breaking

[stiff hazel]

you have a 6+ still? Should be possible to make a request for 12.5.5 supervised then try to modify it

[royal flint]

busy rn

[celest basalt]

[celest basalt]

why is your mom’s phone supervised, some company MDM?

[valid adder]

stupid twitter people at it again

https://twitter.com/InsaneousDev/status/1445184099988107266

Insaneous (@InsaneousDev)

https://t.co/AdUyaEEpu0

Pinging some people on this. I'm not able to investigate this. Sorry if disturbed.
@FCE365 @rA9_main @RazMashat @dangeredwolf @Cimmerian_Iter @Cryptiiiic @m1sta @halo_michael @23Aaron

Twitter · Oct 5, 2021, 12:28 AM

read the thread

[celest basalt]

they said it’s a different key called AlternateSU, so why are you treating the guy like an idiot when we haven’t even fully investigated it ourselves to confirm yet

[royal flint]

ok, yea

if either AlternateSU or Managed are true my captured request works

[celest basalt]

I assume AlternateSU requires BCert too since it shows up in that request

[valid adder]

@celest basalt Theres more info in the thread

[celest basalt]

which is a big oof because then we probably can’t use this for futurerestore

[valid adder]

this is what I mean

[celest basalt]

especially not on a device that will refuse to generate a valid BCert because of too new SEP

[celest basalt]

didn’t see that

can you not make requests to sep for a bcert at all

[royal flint]

indeed

[celest basalt]

how do they verify the sep requests are authentic

on a device with a low enough SEP version I wonder if maybe you could intercept it and have futurerestore reuse the sepnonce from the BCert instead of re-requesting which changes it

unless just rebooting to recovery already changes sepnonce too

[royal flint]

all the BCert does is assert you are on X version and stuff tho

still has to be allowed server side

so it's not really useful

[celest basalt]

@valid adder did the savage fix work

this kinda shit honestly just demotivates me from jailbreaking because they’re ruining shit even on iPhone X which is old enough to support checkm8 but also new enough to be usable as a daily driver

[valid adder]

not at all we have the exact error message tho

Pearl Driver

[celest basalt]

especially since I don’t have multiple devices and trying iOS 15 was just too tempting, thought I’d be good because of checkm8 and it seemed like 14.8 was gonna stay signed

should have downgraded when the untether was announced but I didn’t expect Apple to fuck us over like this, especially for A11

[celest basalt]

is there some hope i really want a new feature from 14.5 so i’m debating updating

[valid adder]

I have no idea I just started investigating

[celest basalt]

Okay

I mean iOS 15 is mostly nice stock too but now I can’t even have a nice JB on 14 to replace Live Text with a tweak since it’s not supported natively on A11

snapper works great for that

better than live text imo

well the point is the only way I’ll be able to JB is by losing Face ID until we get a semi-untether for 15.x

and I don’t want that

L

wen eta ur tweak dropping

[stiff hazel]

fuck is AlternateSU

Alternate Software Update?

[royal flint]

yes

[celest basalt]

it doesn’t handle all the shit sadly, getting Face ID working on checkra1n A11 iOS 14 would be technically possible IF it wasn’t broken by incompatible SEP, but it’s guarded behind multiple checks

[royal flint]

pallas and iOS 14.5+ have new infrastructure to be able to serve updates on other audiences

guess tss does too now

[royal flint]

ipsw unsigned right?

[celest basalt]

if futurerestore breaks Face ID even in jailed state no tweak is gonna fix that

[celest basalt]

yes

[royal flint]

damn

[stiff hazel]

do we want to inform Aaron about how this is “Delay OTA 2.0 but not really”

cause shouldn’t it be possible to make a request on any 14.x device for 14.8?

[celest basalt]

all the more tempting to get an iPhone 12 mini but not sure if I should hunt for one on 14.5.1 or below or just go for 15 and get Live Text and shit and just use the X for JB shit (if it’s not a daily driver then Face ID won’t really matter anymore)

[celest basalt]

delayed OTA could allow you to do that on 14.4.2- I guess

[royal flint]

tl;dr:
Because of Apple™️, you can only get "security updates" via OTA, and because of how this is implemented to prevent you from getting OTA blobs to 14 if you're not already on 14, all TSS checkers are now broken for 14.
14.8 is still OTA signed tho, but you must be on 14, but not IPSW signed.

[flat oak]

Guys, with all the 14.8 unsigned. Will ios 13.5 to 14.5 still doable? Iphone8plus here. Latest sepbb still compatible?

[celest basalt]

we’re not sure about iPhone 8+ yet, it may or may not break Touch ID

it definitely breaks Face ID on iPhone X

for now

[flat oak]

Omgerd

[stiff hazel]

I mean delayed OTA will eventually pass 15.0’s release date + 3 months

[flat oak]

There goes my unthetered

[stiff hazel]

so what happens then?

[celest basalt]

it shouldn’t expire while it’s still signed via AlternateSU, but if it does just swap out @Managed for @AlternateSU maybe

[valid adder]

@celest basalt fuck sep

[flat oak]

@valid adder sepbb not compatible?

😫

[royal flint]

it's annoying because delayed OTA can technically be combined with alternate SU but the way Apple has done it breaks it

[stiff hazel]

@solid basin hi yes Apple created a new thing for 14.5+ users which means for them they can still get 14.8

[valid adder]

@flat oak Semi-Incompat

[stiff hazel]

don’t advertise it because that’s stupid

[eager pond]

Same here! Stuck at iOS 15.0.1 no turning back to 14

[flat oak]

Argh, im bored with my 13.5 😫😫😫

[stiff hazel]

how does Apple manage to break it

[royal flint]

wait a sec

wait

it might still work

hm

[stiff hazel]

did you just solve the problem

[flat oak]

Hope they release 14.8.1 with same sepbb 14.8

[royal flint]

well you still have the eventual delayed expiration, it's just it's on the iOS 14 channel instead of the combined channel

[flat oak]

😩

[stiff hazel]

14.8.1+ will be exclusive to the AlternateSU path it appears

[royal flint]

but i need to test it

hold on

[royal flint]

correct

[stiff hazel]

and see this is why Apple is a bunch of confusing fucks

[stiff hazel]

so delays are treated as normal up to iOS 14.8 when they follow the AlternateSU path?

[royal flint]

ugh i wish i had a jb for 14.5

would be very nice if i could fuck with the response

[flat oak]

@stiff hazel so that means no chances to update anymore?

[royal flint]

well you see, it is complicated

i have acquired testing device

[celest basalt]

you can delay OTA to 14.6 but it will be a while before a jailbreak that allows you to use passcode/Touch ID/Apple Pay is released for that version

[dull swallow]

bUt mUh uNTeThEr

[royal flint]

time to push this over MDM because i don't feel like rebooting

[flat oak]

Crap

[stiff hazel]

well it’s either potentially perma-broke-until-restore Touch ID or no untether but everything works even on stock

although here’s a stupid idea that won’t work for obvious reasons I think

[celest basalt]

don’t care + u are a manticore contributor

this is really annoying because I don’t even care that much about the untether itself, like it would be cool, but Apple also ruined my chances at getting back on a semi-untether anytime soon

[stiff hazel]

What happens when you use Succession on 14.x in the state with trashed Face ID @celest basalt

[dull swallow]

didn’t know contributing to an open source project was an issue, but whatever

[celest basalt]

1 blocked message

idk

[stiff hazel]

does it potentially allow you to fix the state

[celest basalt]

I don’t think Succession touches SEP/BB

[dull swallow]

also completely unrelated

[stiff hazel]

let’s not get into arguments, sure Manticore is probably a scam, but arguing is stupid and it’s not the time to argue

[celest basalt]

don’t care + ratio

[dull swallow]

yeah it remains

[celest basalt]

it also is

not probably

[stiff hazel]

it doesn’t but what if Apple somehow fucked up badly

and Succession somehow fixed it because “why not”

[lucid gull]

slay

[celest basalt]

good morning jaidan

[lucid gull]

gm

[lucid gull]

tell your gay little cat friend to give me member+ .

[royal flint]

god damn apple

[lucid gull]

this isn’t funny anymore .

[royal flint]

what the fuck are you doing

[celest basalt]

?

[stiff hazel]

Being Apple

[royal flint]

@stiff hazel here is the rundown on delayed OTAs + alternate updates (wait for edit)

1. Phone checks for update with delay period
2. Pallas returns all matching updates:
   a. as of now, if it is iOS 15, it will enable grabbing the alternate update
   b. if it is iOS 14, alternate updates are (kinda obviously) not enabled
3. If alternate update enabled, it will grab it. I don't know whether DelayPeriod is applied here though. The only version in the iOS 14 alternate channel is 14.8, so i can't check through testing different delay periods, and there's no JB for me to be able to intercept requests.
4. Show both iOS 15 and 14 (I think whether it shows 14 or 15 as main depends on a key in Pallas, but not sure)

[lucid gull]

[celest basalt]

why didn’t we see this AlternateSU thing coming sooner

leave me alone? im a redacted

was iOS sending this for 14.8 updates all along or

[royal flint]

wasn't enabled til 15 dropped

[stiff hazel]

I mean this is a first I’m pretty sure for them

[royal flint]

i checked

[dull swallow]

has pwndfu support been achieved for A7+ for fr? yet not too up to date rn

[celest basalt]

nfr

[celest basalt]

A9 works afaik, A10+ doesn’t, idk about A7-A8

purple names smh

[stiff hazel]

I mean delay OTA almost certainly changed something how this was done

[valid adder]

testing restore with patched kernel

[celest basalt]

based

[royal flint]

@stiff hazel

[celest basalt]

how is that gonna work without making it tethered

[valid adder]

RestoreKernelCache: patched
KernelCache: stock

[dull swallow]

A10+ related to SEP?

[stiff hazel]

no offense but this confuses me

[errant socket]

❓

[valid adder]

a10 is compat with 15.x sepbb @dull swallow

[celest basalt]

A10 is sealing, A11 is SEP panic

[dull swallow]

talking about the mitigation in 14.0

not 15.x

[stiff hazel]

“If it is iOS 15 it will enable grabbing the alternate update”

[celest basalt]

the A11 pwndfu SEP panic is the same panic message you get when you set a passcode with checkra1n

love how whenever apple fucks us over this channel comes back alive

[royal flint]

the channel it checks is currently iOS 14 and 15 combined
i don't think they are going to add future iOS 14 updates in here
but currently, if you delay for like 90, you get iOS 14, if you delay for like 1, you get iOS 15(.0.1)

[celest basalt]

but some of the serial logs before are different

like “sks timeout strike 0” doesn’t show up with checkra1n but it does with pwndfu restore IIRC

[royal flint]

there's a key in the returned asset that tells the phone whether to look at another channel, and if so, which to look at

not present for iOS 14 assets currently, but present for 15

[celest basalt]

it’s funny how iOS 14 is being offered as the primary update (only for 14.5+ though) and yet it’s treated as “alternate”

[stiff hazel]

now I am even more confused even though I shouldn’t be

Is iOS 14 the alternate channel or is iOS 15 the alternate channel

[royal flint]

iOS release is the main channel

[stiff hazel]

By default, it gives 15.0.1

[royal flint]

iOS 14 release is being served as alternate

[celest basalt]

it will only show 15.x without delay OTA

[royal flint]

iOS release currently consists of 14.6, 14.7, 14.8, 15.0, and 15.0.1, in chronological order

I'm expecting iOS release to only add iOS 15 builds in the future

and iOS 14 builds will be added to alternate

dOTA to x<=14.8, currently at least

[valid adder]

@celest basalt thats only for 14.4.2 and lower 14.5 and later don't sep panic with pwn

[celest basalt]

they did last time I tried but I haven’t tried with recent versions yet

[valid adder]

works fine for me

[royal flint]

correc hmmm wait

[celest basalt]

because it failed on iBSS

[royal flint]

what if i pretend to be old ios

[valid adder]

I fixed subscribe

I legit don't give a fuck about sep

like I have a15 I couldn't care less if I lose a11 faceid

[royal flint]

correct

if you're not on 14.5 or above you're fucked without delay OTA

although

oh

maybe delay OTA profile (to force BCert) + dev beta will work?

[celest basalt]

tfw my 6s is still on dev beta 1

[royal flint]

doubt it tho, i heard dev beta was fucky with delayed OTA

[celest basalt]

of 15

[royal flint]

guess i can check

time to upload a dev beta profile to my mdm

[stiff hazel]

I think dev beta causes it to not return a valid request, but we can see

[royal flint]

An error occurred while processing the .mobileconfig file. Please make sure your .mobileconfig file is valid.

nice

oops wrong profile

[celest basalt]

combining those two basically just gives you an OTA blocker IIRC

[royal flint]

well it shows 14.7 at least

[stiff hazel]

any delay period?

[royal flint]

i put in 10

looks like 14.7 is old enough

[stiff hazel]

latest 10 days back would still be 15.0, right?

[royal flint]

no

this is the iOS 14 dev beta profile

only has 14

also no alternate updates with a beta profile

as expected

it is downloading

gonna do work in the mean time

preparing do be taking 5 years

[royal flint]

it's not signed

F

but yea, delayed OTA + beta profile appears to work?

gg

[valid adder]

@celest basalt I have a feeling patching will work part of the way, I already passed the first error need to patch the other 3 now

[stiff hazel]

So, to TLDR:

• 14.5 to 14.7.1 can still go to 14.8
• you cannot directly delay OTA to 14.8 after the window to go to it closes
• this entire thing is based on an alternative software update path

[royal flint]

• 14.5 to 14.7.1 can still go to 14.8
  yes, using either alternative update or delayed OTA
• you cannot directly delay OTA to 14.8 after the window to go to it closes
  if you are on 14.5+, the OTA delay periods may be different. if you are on <14.5, you're fucked, because by the time 14.8 closes everything under will have closed
• this entire thing is based on an alternative software update path
  wdym

[celest basalt]

good luck

[valid adder]

you guys should join the discord

[royal flint]

updated i forget 14.4.2 exists

and the forbidden 14.4.1

[celest basalt]

send link again

i left for some reason

[valid adder]

https://github.com/m1stadev/futurerestore#support

[royal flint]

if 14.8 is dead everything under dead

and the hunch is there won't be any more 14.x versions in main

[stiff hazel]

for the last thing I’m talking about AlternateSU

[royal flint]

yea what about it

post 14.8, yea, the only option is AlternateSU, we think

14.8 and below, you can still delay ota to 14.8

god updating the delay ota page for this will be fun

[stiff hazel]

The entire thing in regards to this whole mess is based on the AlternateSU software update path

[royal flint]

yes

should i make a writeup about it or smth?

is it that confusing and important?

[valid adder]

you can go to 14.x if you request 14.8 sepbb using bcert

[stiff hazel]

yeah sure why not because some users will get confused by it

[old coral]

Is it no longer possible to downgrade to 14.5.1?

[stiff hazel]

what device

[old coral]

iPhone 8 Plus

[stiff hazel]

might be, but you might lose Touch ID with it, pretty sure it’s still being looked into in regards to the iPhone 8’s with Touch ID (cc @valid adder)

[old coral]

Global version, I’m already on 14.5.1. But I want a clean install of 14.5.1 when untethered jailbreak comes out.
I’m currently jailbroken using checkra1n.

[stiff hazel]

Succession exists

!t successionbeta should work I’m pretty sure

[mystic axle]

successionbeta

You can get the beta version of Succession for iOS 14 here: https://sharerepo.stkc.win/?repo=https://samgisaninja.github.io/test/

This should only be used as a last resort, since it's no longer maintained. Usually you can restore rootfs and then erase all contents and settings to achieve the same effect.

Added by nyuszika7h#0001 | Used 158 times · Apr 18, 2021, 10:09 AM

[old coral]

Okay! That’s great news

So this is a tweak? And works similar to a clean restore?

[valid adder]

someone will need to pwndfu restore 8 with a dcsd cable to see if its the same issue as X

@stiff hazel

[old coral]

Please someone do it!

[valid adder]

I can't I have X

[stiff hazel]

What’s a dcsd cable?

[old coral]

Rip

[stiff hazel]

Sorry I’m stupid

[old coral]

It’s a school

[stiff hazel]

[old coral]

I think you need to go to that school to futurerestore

On a serious note

F apple they lied to us

[stiff hazel]

how did they lie?

[old coral]

They said they would keep iOS 14 signed

[stiff hazel]

all they said was 14.8 would still receive security updates

not that it would remain signed for eternities to come

[old coral]

True, we read too much into it

My fault for not understanding what they meant

Thank satin I’m on 14.5.1 already

[eager pond]

They're liars iOS 14.8 no longer signed

[old coral]

Yup, apparently they never said they would keep it signed

So It’s on us for thinking they would

@stiff hazel it gives me this message, how exactly do you decrypt the Ispw file?

[dull swallow]

kanzi, kong etc..

provides debugging info

which normal cables can’t

[stiff hazel]

They didn’t lie

[zealous bridge]

just saying I called it first @royal flint

[royal flint]

🅱️uddy smh

[zealous bridge]

Smh

[royal flint]

But yea
Apple: great frontend, horrifying backend™️

[stiff hazel]

Better backend than Microsoft Windows

[ancient halo]

fffff I'm about to fr it last night and plan to do it today.

[torn violet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/q1ilt1/news_apple_still_allows_installation_of_ios_148/

[celest basalt]

I wonder

are any 15.0 betas signed

[celest basalt]

Hi,
I am going to jailbreak my iPhone 11 on 14.5 with the up-coming untethered jailbreak. What will be all my options to completely remove it without updating if I want to do it? And also am I able to save some sort of blob for 14.5 and use it to restore my iDevice via futurerestore(if I need to unjailbreak)?

[mild mural]

Did you check?

[celest basalt]

not yet, I’m not on my computer but will be soon

[celest basalt]

15.0b2: not signed

RC is signed hmm

[storm ingot]

Would you recommend updating or staying on 14.4.2 which has a better of getting a jb

[celest basalt]

stay on 14.4.2, you'll get an untether by the end of the month / early next month most likely

you could go as high as 14.5.1 if you're on A10 or below and have blobs though

[storm ingot]

I’ve got A13

[celest basalt]

then futurerestore will most likely break Face ID as iOS 15 SEP is partially incompatible so stay where you are

and you can't delayota to anything lower than 14.6 anymore either

[storm ingot]

Kk I’ll stay, I ain’t doing anything if it risks faceid breaking

[celest basalt]

Hello

Its possible downgrade 14.7.1 to 14.5.1 on iphone x !?

I test downgrade but i message sep isn’t signed

nope

[valid adder]

not yet

[flat oak]

Sounds like there’s hope😆

[celest basalt]

😭😭

Can we update the Apple Watch with OTA Delay

i want watchOS 7.6 but i can’t have watchOS 8

[hot widget]

my iphone 7 has updated to ios 15 but i have ios 14.6 blobs but when i go to downgrade it gives apnence error

apnonce generator changes alone? I can't use this shsh anymore?

[valid adder]

@celest basalt it worked

@green onyx

[hot widget]

Number generator change…it's different from shsh

[green onyx]

WHAT

OMG

No fucking way

Holy shit

@valid adder this is using 15.0.1 sep and bb right?

[valid adder]

I don't have working faceid hard ware so I can't test

[celest basalt]

what about the kernelcache invalid thing

does it boot despite that

or did you have to tether boot or something

[valid adder]

and this is a full on cfw so it requires extra work to send unpatched kernel to nand

[celest basalt]

w

can someone without anything to lose try it

[valid adder]

booted passcode works

im missing faceid hardware so can't test

[celest basalt]

did it work before fix?

[valid adder]

yes

[mild mural]

idk what I'm looking at but nyu tried FRing to 14.5.1 with 15RC sep, maybe they'd try that assuming it's the same thing

[green onyx]

we need some mf that is A11 on 14.6+

[stiff hazel]

what the fuck is even happening here

[celest basalt]

@valid adder pwned iBSS still broken on 251

wait

yeah now on second try it booted back into normal mode

nvm, I did irecovery -f junk.txt this time and it's good

I forgot to replace the files but pwned 14.5.1 is sending filesystem now so I can confirm at least the SEP panic doesn't happen on that version anymore

lmao wtf

you can trigger checkra1n from second stage of restore mode

it's detected as "normal mode"

[plain mist]

bootycheeks

[celest basalt]

[azure kettle]

is it still possible to go from 14.3 to 14.5.1 on iPhoneX

haven't been following the news lately

[celest basalt]

not without breaking Face ID

[azure kettle]

dang I was too late I guess😞

[celest basalt]

Atleast you're on 14.3, I'm stuck on 13.5.1 😄

[echo pine]

lets say a jb comes out for 14.5.1

im on ios 14.3

can i update to 14.5.1 on my iphone xs?

i do have blobs saved btw

[celest basalt]

SEP is not fully compatible so you'll lose Face ID if you do, best to stay on 14.3

[echo pine]

Oh dang it

I wanted airtags support lol

[zealous bridge]

!t sepbb

[mystic axle]

sepbb

Currently you can restore to the following versions with the latest SEP and baseband for your device:

Devices that only support up to iOS 12 (most A7 and A8 devices excluding iPad5,1 - iPad5,4): 11.3-12.5.5

A9 and A10: 14.0-15.0

A11 devices: 15.0 (restoring to 14.3-14.8 will break Touch ID/Face ID)

A12 devices and newer: 15.0 (restoring to 14.0-14.8 will break Face ID)

For restores on A9+ you currently must use the latest beta version of FutureRestore, see !t futurerestore for a link.

Added by Tanbeer#4750 | Used 168 times · Jul 17, 2021, 2:35 PM

[azure kettle]

Are the betas still signed? Would they work

[zealous bridge]

Which betas

[azure kettle]

15rc iphonex

I don’t think 15.1 betas would work... right?

[zealous bridge]

15.0rc is signed, but I don’t see how that helps us

[azure kettle]

Can we use the bb and sep from that, or am I misunderstanding something

[zealous bridge]

It would make no difference from using 15.0 stable

[echo pine]

what about ios 14.8.1 (or whatever the newest 14.x update is)

is that compatible with 14.5.1?

[zealous bridge]

Yes but it’s unsigned

14.8

[echo pine]

oh nvm my b, i thought it was still signed

[celest basalt]

I've already confirmed 15.0 RC is also incompatible

and 15.0 betas are unsigned

[echo pine]

yeah ik 15 isnt compatible

i thought ios 14.8 was still signed so i asked about that

[celest basalt]

didn't try 15.1 but it's highly unlikely that it would suddenly work again

[echo pine]

i have a quick question thou, why did my other phone let me choose between ios 15 and ios 14.8?

i thought u always had to update to the newest one

[zealous bridge]

Clown by name, clown by nature

[celest basalt]

they probably tested on A8-A10

[zealous bridge]

Apple did some thing where you can update to 14.8 but it’s unsigned IPSW wise

[celest basalt]

14.8 is only available via OTA update, the IPSW js unsigned now

[zealous bridge]

so we can’t use sep/baseband

[echo pine]

ahhh okay that makes more sense then

so basically my blobs are useless for me?

blobs for ios 14.5.1*

[azure kettle]

Wait...

[zealous bridge]

I remember that

Idek

[celest basalt]

that was iPhone 8+ apparently

[zealous bridge]

Yes

But the restore completed

Which is not normal

[celest basalt]

we know the restore finishes normally on iP8(+) but apparently breaks Touch ID

[zealous bridge]

Oh

Never mind

That makes about no sense then

[celest basalt]

#jailbreak message

[zealous bridge]

Why would the restore finish successfully

[deep plank]

hey, did restoring to an old ios broke the touch id before or is it new to ios 15 sep?

cuz i wanna restore my iphone 8 that my mom updated to get parental control 💀

and wanna get some tweaks again

[celest basalt]

it's just the iOS 15 SEP but that's your only option now

[deep plank]

ok thx!

doesn't work anyways

aptnonce error or smth

[native flame]

so guys can i use ios 15 sep to go from 12.1 to 12.5.1 for iphone 12 pro if I have blobs?

i mean 14.1 to 14.5.1

lol

[plain mist]

uh

[hot widget]

AP nonce error downgrade 15.0 to 14.6

[plain mist]

@zealous bridge can you answer

[plain mist]

u gotta set the nonce bro

[plain mist]

same for you man

[native flame]

so I can if I have nonce set with blob save for 14.5.1?

[zealous bridge]

!t sepbb

[mystic axle]

sepbb

Currently you can restore to the following versions with the latest SEP and baseband for your device:

Devices that only support up to iOS 12 (most A7 and A8 devices excluding iPad5,1 - iPad5,4): 11.3-12.5.5

A9 and A10: 14.0-15.0

A11 devices: 15.0 (restoring to 14.3-14.8 will break Touch ID/Face ID)

A12 devices and newer: 15.0 (restoring to 14.0-14.8 will break Face ID)

For restores on A9+ you currently must use the latest beta version of FutureRestore, see !t futurerestore for a link.

Added by Tanbeer#4750 | Used 169 times · Jul 17, 2021, 2:35 PM

[zealous bridge]

You will lose Face ID

[plain mist]

rest in peace TO BOZO

[native flame]

fuch...

[hot widget]

How?

[native flame]

oh well... 14.1 is fine I guess 😦

[plain mist]

to set nonce?

[hot widget]

Yes

[plain mist]

check the setting nonce part of this

!t futurerestore

[mystic axle]

futurerestore

futurerestore allows you to upgrade/downgrade/restore to unsigned iOS versions if you meet certain requirements.

Tutorials:
Tutorial
Video Tutorial

Links:
FutureRestore GUI
Latest stable version (194)
Latest beta version

There are currently no pre-compiled beta builds for Windows.

Added by Capt Inc#0001 | Used 227 times · Jun 7, 2021, 11:16 PM

[plain mist]

in the tutorial

[native flame]

wait so iOS 15RC not signed anymore? can we get sep from that?

[zealous bridge]

It is

But it’s the same as iOS 15 stable

[hot widget]

But I don't have jailbreak on iOS 15 to use newterm

[plain mist]

so you cant futurerestore

lo

[hot widget]

Does AP nonce change when I update ios?

[plain mist]

yes

[deep plank]

Need to be jailbroken :((

[plain mist]

take this L

[zealous bridge]

…

[storm ingot]

Should I be ready to jailbreak on October 21st with 14.4.2 a13 or will it work?

[green onyx]

it will work

[storm ingot]

Aight faceid will work fine too? 🙏

[celest basalt]

yes

[queen otter]

where to find the precompiled beta for Mac_

?

[green onyx]

@queen otter are u m1 or intel

[old coral]

What does this mean? What worked?

[celest basalt]

deez worked

[old coral]

??

[queen otter]

Intel

[green onyx]

https://nightly.link/m1stadev/futurerestore/workflows/ci/test/futurerestore-macOS-x86_64.zip

[queen otter]

Thanks, let try out

[green onyx]

np

[queen otter]

Sorry for this noobish question but, how to install/run the .tar.xz file?

[green onyx]

call it in your terminal path

at least for futurerestore, do that

[queen otter]

After extracting right?

[green onyx]

no

dont extract it

[queen otter]

Just call the .tar.xz

[green onyx]

yes

[queen otter]

Ok fine, thanks

[green onyx]

np

actually wait

@queen otter u need to extract

mb for this one

[celest basalt]

nfr

[green onyx]

i keep forgetting gh artifacts r zipped

why does upload-artifact upload the artifact zipped

why cant it straight up upload the artifact

[queen otter]

I can use it on the terminal after extracted but using commands, I was expecting a GUI, I could only get the 1.91 DMG GUI like this: https://github.com/CoocooFroggy/FutureRestore-GUI/releases/download/v1.91/FutureRestore-GUI-Mac-1.91.dmg

Let me try to run it with commands, doesnt looks as hard as i
thought

[green onyx]

futurerestore is a cli tool. Futurerestore gui is the gui for it

[green onyx]

it shouldnt be hard

[valid adder]

Imagine being so fucking stupid that you credit the gui dev for future restore fixes

[queen otter]

Ofc not heh

[valid adder]

its happened so much already

Im not saying you did

Im just making a random statement

[valid adder]

Build 252 gang

epic new features coming

[celest basalt]

that looks nice

wish i knew some cpp so i could understand something of that code

[old coral]

I hope you can downgrade to 14.5.1 using that on a11

[green onyx]

rdsk?

[dusky sparrow]

i have ios 15.0.1 now.. can i downgrade it to 14.8? thanks guys

[errant socket]

no you can't

unless you have blobs and are a checkm8 device

[dusky sparrow]

yes mate... i had 14.8 & 15 blobs

[errant socket]

ok are you a checkm8 device

[dusky sparrow]

what do you mean?

[errant socket]

what device is it

[dusky sparrow]

its just iphone 7

[errant socket]

ok then you can use checkm8 nonce setter iirc

[dusky sparrow]

okay mate... thanks for the help

[green onyx]

how do we get sep and bb manifest

isnt that just buildmanifest.plist

wait

im small brain

and a dumbass

[valid adder]

can your eyes read

[green onyx]

yes i realized

[deep plank]

Omg thanks

[deep plank]

Aussie?

[valid adder]

@deep plank futurerestore is about to have parts of checkm8-nonce-setter integrated

[deep plank]

Nice

[valid adder]

its building now

[deep plank]

I didn’t rly watched future restore news before bc I wasn’t’ updating much

But now that my mom updated me…

I saved blobs just before she did

Thank god

[valid adder]

Build 252 is now up on nightly

!t nightly

[mystic axle]

nightly

Futurerestore Beta

Added by Cryptic#6293 | Used 1 times · Oct 6, 2021, 5:43 AM

[mild mural]

does that have A11 face id fix?

[rustic blaze]

A11 restores are working

???

[mild mural]

i'll wait and let nyu test it lol

[valid adder]

Like I said many times my X is already missing faceid hardware

I can't test that part

[mild mural]

yeah but theoretically should it work

[rustic blaze]

any body else in the channel can test

[mild mural]

you test it

[valid adder]

you can test with 14.5.1 X

cuz thats the only files I have rn

[rustic blaze]

i dont have 14.5.1 blobs

[mild mural]

what blobs have you

[valid adder]

why would you not have blobs...

epic fail

[mild mural]

[valid adder]

@rustic blaze do u have any blobs

[rustic blaze]

yes it starts from 14.6

not 14.5.1

[valid adder]

noob

https://twitter.com/Cryptiiiic/status/1445662246932082689

Cryptic (@Cryptiiiic)

Restored my a11 X from 15.0.1 -> 14.5.1 using 15.0.1 SEP/BB using futurerestore nightly(build: 253)
However it required many kernel patches and ramdisk patches to work. pwndfu will be a requirement sadly. I can't test faceid so someone else will have to.

Twitter · Oct 6, 2021, 8:08 AM

[rustic blaze]

i might try when I am home

[valid adder]

@rustic blaze do you have 14.7 blobs

[rustic blaze]

yes

do u want me to try

[valid adder]

@rustic blaze yes

I finished the files

[rustic blaze]

rn I am at work

will update once i am home

can we restore with a on device saved blob

OTA blob

and what are these files meant for

[valid adder]

might work

[celest basalt]

!t sepbb

!t sepbb

[mystic axle]

sepbb

Currently you can restore to the following versions with the latest SEP and baseband for your device:

Devices that only support up to iOS 12 (most A7 and A8 devices excluding iPad5,1 - iPad5,4): 11.3-12.5.5

A9 and A10: 14.0-15.0.1

A11 devices:

• iPhone 8/8 Plus: 14.3-15.0.1
• iPhone X: 15.0-15.0.1 (restoring to 14.3-14.8 will break Face ID)

A12 devices and newer: 15.0-15.0.1 (restoring to 14.0-14.8 will break Face ID)

For restores on devices that support iOS 15 you currently must use the latest beta version of FutureRestore, see !t futurerestore for a link.

Added by Tanbeer#4750 | Used 175 times · Jul 17, 2021, 2:35 PM

[flat oak]

Wow looks like iphone8 is safe for upgrading

[stiff hazel]

@celest basalt has iPhone 8 restores been confirmed to not fuck with rootfs shit?

[celest basalt]

not confirmed but restore is successful so probably fine

like without FDR timeout

[stiff hazel]

inb4 it's not fine and instead it's actually fucked

[celest basalt]

lol

[stiff hazel]

Should be possible to test via Odysseyra1n then restore system

who was it that tried iPhone 8?

[wary terrace]

Hello everyone. I have an iPhone 11 Pro Max under iOS 14.3, with the upcoming jailbreak under iOS 14.5.1 I have my blobs from all versions above could I upgrade to these versions with blobs ?

[celest basalt]

@stiff hazel rootfs confirmed ok on iP8

@stiff hazel try saying fuck and shit less

that's fucking shit

[plain mist]

Also dipshit

[kind orchid]

anyone know how to downgrade from ios 15 to 14.8 on a8x ?

[green onyx]

is pwndfu semi-fucked on linux or no

[wispy cove]

!t futurerestore

[mystic axle]

futurerestore

futurerestore allows you to upgrade/downgrade/restore to unsigned iOS versions if you meet certain requirements.

Tutorials:
Tutorial
Video Tutorial

Links:
FutureRestore GUI
Latest stable version (194)
Latest beta version

There are currently no pre-compiled beta builds for Windows.

Added by Capt Inc#0001 | Used 228 times · Jun 7, 2021, 11:16 PM

[celest basalt]

had no issues with A11 pwned restore to 14.5.1 on Linux (apart from iOS 15 SEP breaking Face ID, haven’t tried the fix yet but soon)

[plain mist]

Face ID breaking sounds more like a general restore thing

Rather than pwndfu

[celest basalt]

yeah

[plain mist]

So I’m not surprised if it would happen in both

[celest basalt]

just saying I can't say it was 100% flawless because there's that

but no pwned specific issues

[plain mist]

tldr, pwndfu success reached in a9 and 11

Now which hoe wants to test 10

[celest basalt]

haven't tried 14.3 yet but that will be pointless once 14.5.1 untether drops

except for people who don't have newer blobs

[plain mist]

@celest basalt dog

why don’t you try

Your OTA blobs

for 14.3

[mild mural]

those won't work afaik

[plain mist]

That’s what ipwndfu is even for

And now that it like, actually works with normal blobs

[celest basalt]

yes I'll try but Cryptic said like 14.4- or something is still fucked

[plain mist]

Should it not work with OTA ones?

[plain mist]

Wtf

barrier after barrier bro

[rustic blaze]

Can someone share iPhone X gsm sep and BB iOS 15

I wanna test the new fr

[flat oak]

U got ios15 ipsw?

[green onyx]

Use latest flags

[rustic blaze]

its stuck here

ios 15.0 sep and bb

any clues

14.8 to 14.6

latest nightly build

@valid adder

Now I cannot go back to iOS 14

I have to restore to iOS 15

Unless apple releases iOS 14.8.1

@valid adder

[celest basalt]

probably will be via AlternateSU OTA only

[celest basalt]

15.0.1 compat is same as 15.0, but you can use https://t.me/sepfinderbot

[celest basalt]

this is a known issue btw, caused by iOS 15 SEP

you can force reboot and exit recovery and let it finish but it will break Face ID

(restore to iOS 15 fixes it)

[carmine charm]

Dumb question that I'm pretty sure I know the answer to, but I figured I'd ask at least.

I've got an iPhone X currently on 13.4.1 that I backed up 14.0.1 SHSH blobs for. Last night I decided I'd try to use them to upgrade, only to discover that I had inadvertently selected the wrong version of iPhone X when creating the blobs. Is there any way I can salvage them, or are these blobs essentially useless?

[mild mural]

I think they're useless, plus you can't go to 14 anyway unless you don't want Face ID

You can verify with https://verify.shsh.host

My bad, you can't go to 14.0.1 at all

_ _

[carmine charm]

Oh, I have to use the 15.0 SEP?

[mild mural]

Yeah since 14 is unsigned

but

it won't work anyway

[carmine charm]

Yeah, but it at least makes me feel a little bit less bad for screwing up when I made the backup, since I ultimately was too late to even use the blob even if I did it right

[mild mural]

True

At least you can jb

If you use Odyssey I think it'll install [[shshd]] which saves blobs for you automatically in the background every 7 days

[mystic axle]

shshd

SHSH blob saving daemon

Author

Hayden Seay

Version

1.1.1.1

Price

Free

Repo

Procursus

More Info

View on Parcility

shshd • Page 1/1 · Oct 6, 2021, 6:15 PM

[carmine charm]

Ah, I should probably look into that then

Anyways, thank you for your help

[stuck wraith]

hi guys, i wanted to try the ota method to update from 13.5.1 to 14.7.1 or 14.8, unjailbroken iPhone 11

[mild mural]

!t delayota

[mystic axle]

delayota

You can update (not downgrade) to unsigned iOS versions without blobs for up to 90 days by installing SupervisedEnabler and downloading the appropriate profile from https://dhinakg.github.io/delayed-otas.html.

Added by nyuszika7h#0001 | Used 100 times · Jun 2, 2021, 11:53 AM

[mild mural]

Just so you know you won't be able to jailbreak after doing that since there are no 14.7.1 jbs

[stuck wraith]

Not a problem for now I can wait

But do I need to jail break my phone first in order to do this? Is there a more detailed guide or something?

[mild mural]

you don't have to but it's easier if you do

[fallow anvil]

I'm 99% sure it's manual
@versed nestFroggy#7742 @shy magnet
The script is run manually. But it can be run automatically too. It updates the beta list and fetches buildmanifests by itself.

[celest basalt]

lol nice ping fail

Froggy left the server so it pinged someone else

[shy magnet]

eh

oh

@fallow anvil what source are you using? iphonewiki?

[green onyx]

hello arx8x, its been a long time u came here

[fallow anvil]

The log literally says "attempting using dimentio" or something like that. The nvnonce source code is open and uses dimentio. If you use nvnonce in command line, you can see that it says it uses dimentio.
System Info is supposed to work on much older iOS versions too. So, it uses multiple methods to patch/write nvram. It tries multiple methods. Dimentio is just one of those methods.

[fallow anvil]

yeah
I wrote a parser for mediawiki tables

It fetches all unique ipsw links and processes them by fetching buildmanifests. It doesn't use other info in the wiki

[fallow anvil]

Hey. I got a ping today and that's how I rememberd about discord.

[proper helm]

Anyone know how long it take to update with futurerestore?

[old coral]

@valid adder

@zealous bridge

How is this possible?

iOS 14.8 Ota is still being signed

Can’t we use sep and bb from it to downgrade?

I’m on 14.5.1 iPhone 8 Plus global by the way

[valid adder]

its not signed traditionally

[rustic blaze]

@old coral this fails when u start installing it

even my IX shows this

as a matter of fact mt IX restored to ios 14.6 using 15.0.1 sep and bb

but the Face ID is broken

i used the latest nightly build

@valid adder

any patches to run

to enable face id again

[valid adder]

you didn't even use the files I sent..

and you are manually specifying sepbb

why would you do that

[rustic blaze]

i didnt knew the instructions to use them

now I see the 14.8 ota in my setings

will it upgrade

[valid adder]

why would I send you files and then you didn't even ask how to use them

[rustic blaze]

i asked you what are these files meant for

u didnt reply

now can we restore

[celest basalt]

iOS 15 SEP is fully compatible down to 14.3 on iPhone 8(+)

only iPhone X and above has issues

[rustic blaze]

iphone X also restores but no FACE ID

[simple hornet]

Will sep & bb work when upgrading from ios 14.3 to 15. Iphone 8?

[celest basalt]

yes, but if you want to go to iOS 15 why would you futurerestore when it's signed

if you mean will it work in the future, that depends on when Apple decides to break SEP compatibility, we don't know yet

but so far it's fine on iPhone 8

[rustic blaze]

@simple hornet why do u want to upgrade to ios 15

[errant socket]

they never said they did

[simple hornet]

I am holding on to ios 14.3 cos of jailbreak and by the time ios 15.0 jailbreak comes out it might be unsigned.

[simple hornet]

Ok thanks

[plain mist]

@fallow anvil May I ask, how does System Info reach out to shsh host API when the API requires some sort of captcha response?