or through a computer?
#futurerestore-help
celest basalt
I updated my iP11 from the Settings when iOS 14.5 was the newest version.
I updated from 14.4.2
plain mist
Then they're going to be iOS 14.5 onboard ota blobs
Which you won't be able to use
But normal blobs should work
celest basalt
I have blobs for 14.6 saved with blobsaver.
And also when I jailbreak and my iDevice boot loops and it does not want to turn on, will the generator value be the same as before the boot loop? I am asking because if this happens and I set the generator to be the same as my blob before, will I be able to restore my device via futurerestore?
topaz ferry
green onyx
u need to have blobs, which i assume u dont judging by the fact that ur asking about cydia
waxen thorn
u need to have blobs, which i assume u dont judging by the fact that ur asking a...
hey is there any tutorial?
celest basalt
that’s not ota?
green onyx
pretty sure thats testing for every ios 14 version between ota onboard and ipsw onboard on an A11 device
green onyx
hey is there any tutorial?
celest basalt
weren’t onboard blob restores broken?
celest basalt
ah
so i could upgrade with ota delay and save onboards
and then restore back to there
zealous bridge
yes but no point since onboards are gonna be A11- and checkra1n exists
tall flame
hello everyone/ please to extract SEP/BB 14.8 IPHONE 7
tall flame
https://github.com/F0lkl0re/14.8SEP-BB
thanks alot ..
green onyx
np
vague sand
So same question as #jailbreak, can I upgrade to 14.7.1 from 14.3 if I have blobs? If yes, how?
mystic axleBOT
!t futurerestore
vague sand
Someone told me to extract 14.8 IPSW to get baseband and SEP
maiden citrus
no need
just use --latest-sep and --latest-baseband in futurerestore and it'll get it for you
vague sand
Is 15's SEP and BB safe to use?
maiden citrus
you only need target ipsw and your shsh2 blob
maiden citrus
Is 15's SEP and BB safe to use?
what device
vague sand
iPhone 11
vague sand
downloading 14.8 ipsw rn
celest basalt
sometning sometning you open the BuildManifest.plist in the 14.8 ipsw
and it tells you which sep to use i think
maiden citrus
downloading 14.8 ipsw rn
you can use pzb but downloading the entire ipsw is eaiser
vague sand
btw, is -u usable?
maiden citrus
yup
vague sand
nice!
maiden citrus
so isn't the cfw guide out of date now?
cause its dangerous to use the latest sep/bb
celest basalt
I don't think it will even let you fr with latest sep and bb
Pretty sure it error'd for me
vague sand
Yeah... and 14.8 may be not signed soon, so yeah I am upgrading to the latest version I feel safe with
btw, if i have bb and sep can i use them in the future or when 14.8 is unsigned they become unusable?
humble musk
no because they unsign sep and bb too
vague sand
okay i have the 14.8 ipsw
green onyx
okay i have the 14.8 ipsw
bruh
i literally downloaded all ios 14.8 ipsws and extracted them all for all iphone devices
valid adder
vague sand
well, that removes the hassle of extracting the ipsw
valid adder
Lol
valid adder
well, that removes the hassle of extracting the ipsw
And hassle of accidentally choosing the wrong files
toxic lotus
what’s this
i don’t trust you enough to install this lol
mf prolly has a token grabber or something
bruh
@tall siren
hate to be a snitch
but
old coral
When do you think 14.8 will be unsigned?
toxic lotus
a year
i’m sure
unless they release new ios 14 verisons
then it’ll be a year for those versions
old coral
How can you be so sure?
What exactly leads you to believe that? If you are so sure, what’s the evidence pointing to that?
old coral
I have saved blobs
toxic lotus
then you good
celest basalt
i don’t trust you enough to install this lol
anyone who installs that deserves whatever it does
toxic lotus
u can’t
novel barn
With announce collision
*apnonce
How can people use it on the 13 which has never been jailbroken but not my 12
which I have been saving blobs for
valid adder
your question makes no sense
plain mist
that’s not ota?
Ask @valid adder he's the one who did the restores
That's ipwndfu restores
Which he most probably used ota blobs for (that's kind of the whole point of them)
craggy pendant
So same question as <#688122301975363591>, can I upgrade to 14.7.1 from 14.3 if ...
Why don’t you stay on 14.3 jailbroken ?
plain mist
@valid adder is nonce setting on A11 ipwndfu broken
I want to go from 14.8->14.5 and I really don't wanna jb on .8
hardy edge
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celest basalt
@tall siren lol what
tall siren
yeah same
valid adder
@plain mist no, it’s literally the only way I set my nonce lol
plain mist
<@!757471890829869076> no, it’s literally the only way I set my nonce lol
LETS GOOOOOOO
plain mist
<@!757471890829869076> no, it’s literally the only way I set my nonce lol
@celest basalt @tall siren u guys can suck my dick (extra hard)
tall siren
i don’t know what this is in reference too
plain mist
i don’t know what this is in reference too
going to 14.5 to get a backup
without a jb
valid adder
setnonce is only broken on certain a9 versions
keen leaf
Hello, I need help for restore iOS 14.5.1 from iOS 14.8 with FutureRestoreGUI. I have already the checkra1n jailbreak and followed every step, that was in this guide (https://ios.cfw.guide/futurerestore), but it didn't work, because of "SEP firmware is NOT being signed!". I looked up at the help page of the guide (https://ios.cfw.guide/futurerestore-help) and the following help didn't work either. Can somebody help me here?
keen leaf
hello?
celest basalt
unfortunately i dont have blobs wish i could go back to ios 14.5 from 14.8
celest basalt
heard something about an update later on in october they said checkra1n was releasing 14.8 on the 29th
keen leaf
yeah, but you can use untested iOS versions in the options in the checkra1n app, or will FutureRestore not work on iOS 14.8 with checkra1n jailbreak?
valid adder
@keen leaf I tweeted
keen leaf
where?
valid adder
keen leaf
ok, but whats your name on twitter?
valid adder
Cryptiiiic
keen leaf
thanks
valid adder
correct
valid adder
@keen leaf also you didn't tell us the most important context
keen leaf
and it is?
Oh sorry, I missunderstood. What improtant context
Oh, it might seen, it works, thanks for your help @valid adder
valid adder
your device...
keen leaf
oh, my device is an iPhone X GSM
keen leaf
ok
but I already started FutureRestore and it's now loading
Did I did something wrong?
Because I used the option latest SEP and baseband
valid adder
I told you
valid adder
you probably need to fresh restore and set nonce again
cancel restore and exit recovery
see what happens
valid adder
exit recovery
keen leaf
I get a fail message with "can't set auto-boot, when device isn't in recovery mode"
valid adder
hard reset the phone and replug
keen leaf
but my iphone is still showing the update screen
keen leaf
hard reset the phone and replug
how do I do it?
You mean hard shut down the device and replug the cable?
keen leaf
oh ok, I'm will doing it
now it shows when I am doing FutureRestore this: "failed to load SEPManifest"
valid adder
you have to select the correct X gsm 14.8 sep, bb, and manifest
manually specify in the gui
the correct ones are pinned
keen leaf
Ok, is it in the folder "iPhone 10,6" on this website? (https://github.com/F0lkl0re/14.8SEP-BB/tree/master/iPhone10%2C6)
valid adder
yes
bbfw is manual baseband
sep-firmware is manual sep
buildmanifest is select build manifest
keen leaf
ok, but how can I download the BuildManifest because there is no download button
keen leaf
oh, thanks, can I now start FutureRestore?
valid adder
show me gui
keen leaf
ok, im starting the FutureRestore
signal sedge
hey just wondering im running an iphone 12 pro with ios 15 is it possible to downgrade to 14.3? and can i just do it or do i need to have saved a blob on that version?
keen leaf
You needed to have a blob saved for downgrade to iOS 14.3, sorry for you 😦
signal sedge
damn well i just bought this one kinda sad 😦
keen leaf
Yeah, hopefully, a new jailbreak method is going to release on iOS 15
signal sedge
true
do you know a guide to save blobs?
gonna do it rn so i can go back to 15 in case it ever gets one
keen leaf
Yeah, here is one: https://ios.cfw.guide/saving-blobs
prime raptor
Guys
used futurerestore gui
succesfully restored but fone still stuck in recovery
exit recovery reboots it back into recovery
prime raptor
Thanks for your help! It worked and I'm on iOS 14.5.1 now!
Bruh
keen leaf
What device you have, what iOS version you haved previosly, to what version do you wanted to restore?
prime raptor
ifone 7 cdma
14.5.1 to 14.5
basically just wanted to do a fresh restore without updating
and now its stuck in recovery
keen leaf
what kind of options you used on FutureRestore?
keen leaf
Ok, you then probably used the right blobs and ipsw file, or not?
keen leaf
Then I don't know, sorry. You can probably try to restart the Restore again, use the beta of futurerestore or something, but sorry that I don't can help you
plain mist
@valid adder do i need to do rmsigchks on iphone 8
prime raptor
i dont know what you just said
only the lmao
did i do something wrong
ohh
that was on may 23
i used the word three u tools
plain mist
loool
prime raptor
<@!218213049381683200>
you're not talking to me,right?
plain mist
im not
prime raptor
ohh
plain mist
lol
prime raptor
btw can you help me?
plain mist
idk
prime raptor
ok
valid adder
@plain mist I can’t view blobs on mobile and yes of course you need to patch bootrom, there’s the a11 ipwndfu fork
soft radish
https://upload.systems/ why is there 2 blobs per ios version
whats the difference between them?
soft radish
holy shit this stuff is complicated
plain mist
it's really not
See
When you use a blob
You have to set the nonce with the generator inside it
Basically, open the blob and search for "generator"
soft radish
taurine says I have the 2nd one
plain mist
Yup
So you can use the first blob
Which starts with 15
That's the APNonce for 0xbd34a880be0b53f3
plain mist
I know it sounds complicated, but basically:
When you use a blob, you have to set the nonce, either manually or the jb does it for you, to get the nonce to use, open the blob and search for "generator"
Then use a tool such as dimentio to set it in newterm 2
All iOS 11+ jailbreaks with the notable exception of checkra1n and obscure jbs set it for you
Cool star jailbreaks set it to 0xbd34a880be0b53f3, unc0ver sets it to 0x1111111111111111
soft radish
now I understand it even better
plain mist
plain mist
Show more of the log below
just saw this, gonna sleep, reproduce it tomorrow, and send a log
gaunt glade
possible to downgrade iphone 11 pro max from 15.0- 14.7
valid adder
No jailbreak no downgrade to unsigned
No blobs no downgrade to unsigned
@gaunt glade
gaunt glade
i have blobs
gaunt glade
No jailbreak no downgrade to unsigned
No blobs no downgrade to unsigned
<@545973...
but no jailbreak
valid adder
That’s why you don’t update in the first place @gaunt glade
gaunt glade
so i cant go back?
narrow snow
can I downgrade from ios 14.7.1 to 14.3? iphone 8 btw
toxic lotus
if you have blobs sure
narrow snow
is there any good tutorials? I cant seem to fine a solid video.
toxic lotus
it’s too late to save blobs for 14.3 @narrow snow
celest basalt
can NOBODY help me
craggy marlin
plain mist
lmfaoo
supple niche
earnest dust
I'm trying to update my iPhone XR to 14.2 using futurerestore on windows but I'm getting an error: 'SEP firmware is NOT being signed!'
earnest dust
I've got blobs for 14.2
toxic lotus
1. you can't go to 14.2
why not
toxic lotus
it’s A11 only
zealous bridge
!t sepbb @celest basalt @earnest dust
mystic axleBOT
!t sepbb <@456226577798135808> <@243834803022069760>
valid adder
It’s not confirmed that A12 will fail on 14.2
However it is confirmed that I will need to update the a11 fixes to include A12
So it might not work just yet
v194 can’t support —latest with faceid devices anymore I tweeted @earnest dust
@celest basalt ^
narrow snow
so can someone send me a 14.3 blob and i can downgrade or does it need to be a specific blob? im new to futurerestore
also can I jailbreak my phone with checkrain, downgrade it, restore checkrain to remove the jb and then install unc0ver?
valid adder
Bro the entire reason apple uses blobs is so you can’t downgrade so you can’t just use them with any device
They are saved for specific board config and chip id: ecid
So no we can’t send you blobs
They are device specific
narrow snow
ok thats what I thought.
so is there any possible way for me to downgrade to 14.3 or is it to late?
olive compass
Hi there my ipad pro got bricked and i have to restore to 15.0.1. I have save blobs all the way upto 15.0. Is it possible to downgrade or i am stuck on 15.0.1
celest basalt
Hi there my ipad pro got bricked and i have to restore to 15.0.1. I have save bl...
Which ipad pro
If you can use checkra1n the. you can downgrade w blobs
olive compass
2018 model
olive compass
Oh thanks will have to wait
stiff hazel
@celest basalt couldn't they still restore to 14.8
celest basalt
<@456226577798135808> couldn't they still restore to 14.8
yea
stiff hazel
@olive compass if I was you, I would go to 14.8
olive compass
<@540225092689330178> if I was you, I would go to 14.8
Oh yes thank you 14.8 is still signed i know i can’t ask but their is high chance on that version to be open you know what i mean
stiff hazel
Oh yes thank you 14.8 is still signed i know i can’t ask but their is high chanc...
if you're asking "what's likelihood jailbreak comes for 14.8" I'm gonna say "more likely than 15.0"
flat oak
Guys
valid adder
bob
valid adder
15.0 sepbb incompat on some devices
valid adder
a11 can't even go below 14.3
valid adder
a11 restore shenanigans:
<= 14.2 no success in any regard
14.3 - 14.4.2: fails when RestoreSEP is sent
14.5 - 14.8: succeeds when RestoreSEP is sent
14.3 - 14.4.2: succeeds when RestoreSEP isn't sent
celest basalt
checkra1n
celest basalt
14.8 sep/bb works
valid adder
^
flat oak
14.8 sep/bb works
U mean 13.5 to 14.0 using 14.8 sep/bb?
celest basalt
oh i thought you had 14.5 blobs
flat oak
I just want restore to ios14
celest basalt
has to be 14.3 +
flat oak
I cant live without fingerprint
flat oak
has to be 14.3 +
Ok , understood. Thanks
celest basalt
wait for the untether then
flat oak
wait for the untether then
Yeah.. hope by that time sepbb will be compatible
Thanks u two
@celest basalt @valid adder thanks again
celest basalt
np
green onyx
celest basalt
8
mystic axleBOT
!t futurerestore
plain mist
are you restoring to 14.0-14.2
celest basalt
ok
gilded cliff
Do you have to be jailbroken to do this
celest basalt
yes
valid adder
Are you using update mode
brittle olive
15.0.1 Sep, is it compatible with 14.3 ?
valid adder
Not on a11
brittle olive
A9
celest basalt
Are you using update mode
no
valid adder
Yep
celest basalt
@valid adder can i downgrade iphone 8 to 14.3?
zealous bridge
Check pins
celest basalt
@zealous bridge do i use the build manifest from there?
zealous bridge
Yes
celest basalt
ok
valid adder
All 3 have to be 14.8
celest basalt
the sep and bb are signed right?
@zealous bridge do i use the same buildmanifest for sep andbb?
zealous bridge
Yes
zealous bridge
What command are you running
celest basalt
ohhhhhhhhh
zealous bridge
as the file extension
celest basalt
@zealous bridge
zealous bridge
Is this M1 or Intel mac
celest basalt
intel, also a hackintosh
zealous bridge
that’s an issue you need to report to @valid adder
celest basalt
all i know is, thats an old ass macOS version
mojave?
zealous bridge
Even Catalina uses bash
celest basalt
i can switch to zsh, do that and try again?
plain mist
not gonna make a diff at all
celest basalt
oh ok
plain mist
@zealous bridge is that the ibec error that windows gets
celest basalt
no
plain mist
uh idk then
zealous bridge
no
celest basalt
@valid adder we need help over here
please
its working!
nvm
@zealous bridge
celest basalt
could u even set it from boot-args?
zealous bridge
it’s not a boot arg
celest basalt
oh
celest basalt
idl
zealous bridge
dimentio is an external program
celest basalt
i get unsupported device
zealous bridge
what device tho
celest basalt
iphone 8
zealous bridge
No clue
celest basalt
maybe
zealous bridge
t8015 is supported tho
celest basalt
whats that?
zealous bridge
a11
celest basalt
oh
@zealous bridge same "device did not disconnect, possibly invalid ibec" error
should i restore on windows?
zealous bridge
Try linux
celest basalt
@zealous bridge @valid adder why does linux not detect my device
zealous bridge
do you have usbmuxd installed
celest basalt
yes
zealous bridge
try sudo systemctl start usbmuxd
celest basalt
@zealous bridge it wont install
@zealous bridge do i need to enable apt unsecure shit?
zealous bridge
Are you running FutureRestore gui with sudo
celest basalt
ok
futurerestore on pro needs updates on god
om
it worked with sudo
@zealous bridge is this normal?
zealous bridge
Nope…
celest basalt
and my phones got an apple and a progress bar with no progress
@zealous bridge the bar moved a little
celest basalt
hmmmm
i can see a progress bar flash every couple seconds in the spam of errors, i think its working but giving errors too
@zealous bridge yea the iphone bar is actively moving
valid adder
Fdr loop either means update mode(gonna take long) or incompatiblity
Restore mode can also take long sometimes too
Depends on storage size
celest basalt
64gb
valid adder
Did you use update mode
celest basalt
no
phone rebooted
and i have a bar thats moving
@valid adder @zealous bridge i got this and phone is in setup
valid adder
I doubt it rebooted
celest basalt
im in setup rn
zealous bridge
Noice
celest basalt
on phone
valid adder
Not nice
zealous bridge
Probably some gui log shit
celest basalt
huh
valid adder
Doubt touchid will work
celest basalt
i have a replaced homebutton, wont work anyway
@valid adder passcode works?
sooo
zealous bridge
No
Well
Partially
Baseband isn’t compatible tho
So no chance of downgrading
celest basalt
will divise work if dualbooting to 13.7?
zealous bridge
Doubt
celest basalt
I’m on 14.3 can I update to 14.5.1 or future restore just for downgrading ?
toxic lotus
it’s for both
celest basalt
I’m on iOS 14.7.1 can I downgrade to 14.5 with blobs
What phone
iPhone X
I keep getting sep firmware not being signed
valid adder
I keep getting sep firmware not being signed
I tweeted
15.0 isn't even compatible with a11 14.x anyway lol
plain mist
plain mist
15.0 isn't even compatible with a11 14.x anyway lol
What? Fr?
valid adder
@celest basalt wow you are clueless aren't you
you didn't even do anything I hinted at
bruh
you can still downgrade 
celest basalt
Sorry I just read your tweets
I’m assuming I’m using the wrong version of futurerestore
pine musk
<@456226577798135808> wow you are clueless aren't you
Can I let say stay on Firmware 14.4 (unjailbroken) then if let say Untethered JB available for 14.7 can I use future restore to restore to 14.7?
valid adder
yes as long as there is a signed iOS version with a compatible sep and baseband
pine musk
I see ok thank you that casted away my doubt
valid adder
afaik 14.8 will remain signed until theres another spyware incedent @pine musk
if no more occur, at least a year
stiff hazel
15.0 isn't even compatible with a11 14.x anyway lol
can I ask for clarification about this if that’s ok? Thought it was just issues with Face ID honestly and not “true sep incompatibility”
zealous bridge
What’s there to clarify, it isn’t compatible
stiff hazel
iPhone 8
zealous bridge
Sep incompatibility doesn’t even permanently brick sep, if you restore with another compatible one it’s usable again
stiff hazel
I’m incompetent for an entirely different reason
nevermind this
stiff hazel
Sep incompatibility doesn’t even permanently brick sep, if you restore with anot...
I mean I know that it doesn’t permanently brick sep, I’m more referring to this
so then isn’t the iPhone 8 fine and technically compatible?
and isn’t iPhone X also technically compatible if you’re willing to live with broke Face ID
zealous bridge
iPhone 8 hasn’t been tested yet iirc
But we can assume a11 will be the same anyway
stiff hazel
ok then that answers my question maybe
valid adder
iPhone 8 hasn’t been tested yet iirc
test 8 mf @plain mist
zealous bridge
true
pine musk
afaik 14.8 will remain signed until theres another spyware incedent <@!312121538...
Nice ok thank u. Ofc ideally ios15 has a vulnerability haha
stiff hazel
Nice ok thank u. Ofc ideally ios15 has a vulnerability haha
I mean nearly all software has a vulnerability, just the way software development works, but that being said, it’s much more likely something releases for 14.8 than 15.x
celest basalt
It’s telling me to make sure I’m using the right executable
valid adder
what computer os
hollow parcel
Hello together, I'm trying to update from iOS 14.2 to 14.6 on iPhone 12 mini. I have to enter recovery mode manually, but this is not an issue. The problem is that I get error "SEP firmware is NOT being signed!". Did anybody get this error?
valid adder
I tweeted
plain mist
test 8 mf <@!757471890829869076>
Sir yes sir
I'd like to test it with pwndfu
Is that ok?
Well I tried and I got the error that I gave you, then I forgor to send a log
valid adder
will panic regardless
celest basalt
okay im in the middle of downgrading rn
but its been stuck on waiting for message from fdr for like 30 minutes
valid adder
without context we can't help u
river lantern
Heya all 👉 👈 Long time since I've chatted here
quick question since I might be upgrading from my iPhone X 14.3 to iPhone 13 mini.
Is it possible to save blobs for 13 mini? Say... on iOS 15.0.1 or 15?
celest basalt
my phone is on the apple screen with the little progress bar underit and its not showing anyprogress, and futurerestore just says waiting for message from fdr
hollow parcel
Hello together, I'm trying to update from iOS 14.2 to iOS 14.6 on iPhone 12 mini. I have to enter recovery mode manually, but this is not an issue. The problem is that I get error "SEP firmware is NOT being signed!".
I tried to use Baseband, SEP and BuildManifest.plist files from here https://github.com/F0lkl0re/14.8SEP-BB/tree/master/iPhone13%2C1 (link for 12 mini), but now the error is "failed to load SEPManifest". code=103481361
line=1579
Any ideas, guys?
Thanks a lot!
valid adder
quick question since I might be upgrading from my iPhone X 14.3 to iPhone 13 min...
read my replies
valid adder
Hello together, I'm trying to update from iOS 14.2 to iOS 14.6 on iPhone 12 min...
I tweeted
river lantern
https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/pwpkit/news_the_iphone_13_pro_works_...
Ah yea, I saw that post you made. Good stuff, thankss 🥳
So based on that I suppose you can save blobs
hollow parcel
I tweeted
Sorry, I'm not familiar with this term. You tweeted means that you post something related on twitter? Do you have a link or something I can search on twitter?
valid adder
Ah yea, I saw that post you made. Good stuff, thankss 🥳
So based on that I su...
not actually my post but my comment pic posted lol
valid adder
Sorry, I'm not familiar with this term. You tweeted means that you post somethin...
Im the current maintainer of futurerestore
I post status updates on twitter
celest basalt
how long does the waiting for message from fdr part take
celest basalt
i specified sep and baseband
valid adder
computer os, futurerestore version, gui or no gui?
celest basalt
mac cat. and gui
plain mist
the GUI has this issue with fdr taking so long
Well
It's both CLI and GUI
but the GUI just spams a bunch of stuff
celest basalt
ah yes, macOS 🐱alina
plain mist
pussyalina
valid adder
@celest basalt show me all your settings and selections in gui then
celest basalt
Sorry I have to go to work I will message when I get off
The only option I had selected was the one for extra logs
celest basalt
pussyalina
I know unfortunately but I only have a 2009 Mac book so it’s not even actually supported by Catalina
plain mist
celest basalt
green onyx
nice
zealous bridge
.
green onyx
i had a plugin on accidently
zealous bridge
celest basalt
what did I miss
green onyx
idk
RIP IOS 14 BEING LTS
@valid adder which devices are hit or miss with 15 sep and bb
valid adder
a11 and later
chrome iron
is it possible to update from my current 13.3 to 14 or above? I’m A12 currently running Odyssey
green onyx
a11 and later
do we know why or not
celest basalt
iOS 15.0.1 SEP is compatible down to 14.0 on A10 and below. Partially incompatible on A11 and above (breaks Face ID, but Touch ID is fine). 14.0-14.2 is fully incompatible on A11.
mild mural
lol i came here to ask you a question and you were typing but @celest basalt can i go to 14.5.1 at all even with ota blobs or whatever? what about 14.8 beta?
celest basalt
lol i came here to ask you a question and you were typing but <@4562265777981358...
you can, but you'll lose Face ID
mild mural
😔 thanks
zealous bridge
Can’t go to any 14.X version without losing Face ID basically
mild mural
hoped maybe i could use 14.8 beta since those usually get signed a bit longer
zealous bridge
Hm
zealous bridge
Don’t think there’s a 14.8 beta
mild mural
rip
zealous bridge
**iOS 15.0.1 SEP is compatible down to 14.0 on A10 and below. Partially incompat...
Face ID/Touch ID
celest basalt
Face ID/Touch ID
is that confirmed?
zealous bridge
No… it’s a reasonable assumption tho
celest basalt
the failure is specific to Savage (Face ID firmware) idk
zealous bridge
Is it
celest basalt
I'll add a "potentially broken" note though
zealous bridge
So why is everyone saying SEP incompatibilty
celest basalt
thats way out of time-frame
I guess I'll just stick to iOS 15 and wait for checkra1n but probably won't JB full time because no Face ID or Apple Pay
green onyx
when was 14.5.1 released?
celest basalt
yeah 14.6 is the lowest you can go with delayed OTA now
yea my ipx is on 14.5.1
but at least people who are on lower versions are still in luck
green onyx
yeah 14.6 is the lowest you can go with delayed OTA now
rip
zealous bridge
Bro imma install every single update blocker rn
celest basalt
but tbh i dont care about the untether
they will still get to enjoy an untether most likely
just not on the latest supported version
green onyx
just not on the latest supported version
ye true
celest basalt
the untether is kinda overrated
zealous bridge
I’m so lucky to be on 14.5.1 rn lol
celest basalt
bruh
celest basalt
why does everyone nut to untethers
green onyx
why does everyone nut to untethers
no signing
green onyx
inb4 extended delay OTA period for 14.8
zealous bridge
inb4 extended delay OTA period for 14.8
Die
green onyx
eta wen 14.8 ota sep and bb usable
celest basalt
my iphone x is on 14.5.1 but i'll prob update to 15 when checkra1n drops
zealous bridge
OTA is unsigned
green onyx
OTA is unsigned
ripp
green onyx
my iphone x is on 14.5.1 but i'll prob update to 15 when checkra1n drops
15 checkra1n is probably going to be tethered and rootless
not semi-tethered
celest basalt
what
mild mural
my iphone x is on 14.5.1 but i'll prob update to 15 when checkra1n drops
same man, i want latest iOS + jb
celest basalt
says who lol
tethered AND rootless makes no sense
checkra1n wont be tethered
it's one or the other
and they said they won't do tethered
yea checkra1n aint gonne be tethered
green onyx
and they said they won't do tethered
rootless moment
fringe owl
Can i update my iPhoneX from 14.3 to 14.7 ???
green onyx
rootless is cringe
celest basalt
if any jailbreak has the power to be rootable its checkra1n
mild mural
bro if im using my phone tethered im booting android or some shit on there
celest basalt
i assume they will find a way
green onyx
if any jailbreak has the power to be rootable its checkra1n
15 has a sealed fs
celest basalt
Can i update my iPhoneX from 14.3 to 14.7 ???
via delayed OTA yes, but why would you do that? you'll have to wait several months for a jailbreak that supports passcode/Face ID/Apple Pay
mild mural
rootless is cringe
modifying root is cringe
celest basalt
15 has a sealed fs
again, they'll prolly find a way around it
green onyx
again, they'll prolly find a way around it
probably wont
green onyx
modifying root is cringe
not having root access means most of ur jben shit wont even work
mild mural
not the way checkra1n are approaching it
celest basalt
^
mild mural
based bingner
green onyx
so why is apple just now sealing the FS
because they can
celest basalt
https://www.macrumors.com/2021/06/07/apple-wont-make-you-upgrade-to-ios-15/
https://twitter.com/TSSstatus/status/1445127188106424324
a story in two parts
Twitter
mild mural
god what will i do without <unheard of package's latest and untested dev commit>
fringe owl
via delayed OTA yes, but why would you do that? you'll have to wait several mont...
Just ask because you say 15.0SEP is compatible with 14.3-14.8 or not 
green onyx
i literally didnt go 14.5.1 yet because i thought apple would make 14.8 lts
shitty apple
green onyx
Just ask because you say 15.0SEP is compatible with 14.3-14.8 or not <:donotsee:...
A11+ no
check pins
celest basalt
here is my guess on this: whenever an update is actually available for 14.x users, they will resign it
celest basalt
Just ask because you say 15.0SEP is compatible with 14.3-14.8 or not <:donotsee:...
if you use 15.0 SEP you will not be able to use Face ID even in unjailbroken state
green onyx
here is my guess on this: whenever an update is actually available for 14.x user...
probably but why would they unsign it in the first place
celest basalt
if you use delayed OTA, you can use Face ID unjailbroken, but the only jailbreak supported on 14.7 is checkra1n which requires passcode (and therefore Face ID) to be turned off on A11
celest basalt
probably but why would they unsign it in the first place
because they don't want mfers downgrading
would be funny if a 14.8.1 IPSW suddenly popped up and was signed
but they may just do it OTA or delay OTA idk
green onyx
because they don't want mfers downgrading
what if some mf wants to go to 14.8 rn
celest basalt
because they don't want mfers downgrading
they dont care about downgrading with blobs lol, if they did they'd change sep every version, then blobs become useless
what if someone bootloops on iOS 14 and is not ready to update to 15
green onyx
what if someone bootloops on iOS 14 and is not ready to update to 15
exactly
zealous bridge
what if someone bootloops on iOS 14 and is not ready to update to 15
Then tough shit
fringe owl
Now everyone who saved the shsh for 14.7 save it for nothing 😐
celest basalt
im on 14.3 so i don't really care
celest basalt
Now everyone who saved the shsh for 14.7 save it for nothing 😐
yep
i would love 14.5.1
they're useless A11 and below
i was gonna upgrade today 
im on 14.5.1
cool
mild mural
don't apple usually drop iOS updates on Tuesdays, could happen but I doubt
celest basalt
dang man still cant believe 14 is gone
mild mural
i was on 13 two weeks ago 
mild mural
whats not to like
no more checkra1n with sep that's what
celest basalt
no more checkra1n with sep that's what
that has nothing to do with the homescreen
lol
mild mural
oh you meant the home screen
mild mural
13 better
mild mural
mild mural
https://www.macrumors.com/2021/06/07/apple-wont-make-you-upgrade-to-ios-15/
http...
This will be useful for those who are not able to update their devices because of device restrictions or requirements implemented by work organizations or schools.
Maybe it'll be an option for MDM devices?
And speaking of MDM, what's the earliest iOS the 90 day thing goes to rn?
zealous bridge
14.6
mild mural
man
celest basalt
> This will be useful for those who are not able to update their devices because...
probably just via standard delay OTA
wait
did apple promise to support 14
then lie and kill it
mild mural
we don't know yet
zealous bridge
Very inconspicuous about it but yes
celest basalt
so will apple release a 14.8.1?
wait 14.8 is available for iPhone X still
should i jump to 14.5.1 right now
mild mural
celest basalt
wait 14.8 is available for iPhone X still
no
its unsigned
why
it's not
ipsw.me isnt accurate
what
mild mural
mild mural
that's an X
green onyx
fucking apple lied
celest basalt
huh
ipsw.me doesnt update in real time
it has to be manually updated
wait lemme try to restore a X with 14.8 in Finder and stop it
it'll fail before the restore starts
mild mural
even if it was i'm not risking it, if it gets unsigned mid-restore i'm fucked
zealous bridge
!t blockota
mystic axleBOT
!t blockota
zealous bridge
taking this 14.5.1 with me to the grave
mild mural
after fs is sent does it make any network requests?
it has to activate on start up afaik
celest basalt
how can the phone make requests on start up
stiff hazel
taking this 14.5.1 with me to the grave
what shows up on 14.5.1 when you go check for updates?
celest basalt
it doesn't have networks
mild mural
activation lock
celest basalt
itunes checks apples servers
celest basalt
what shows up on 14.5.1 when you go check for updates?
15.0.1 for me
if the ipsw isnt signed the restore never starts
stiff hazel
15.0.1 for me
14.5+?
valid adder
I have an idea
green onyx
I have an idea
i would like to hear it
celest basalt
you *need* to be on 14.5-14.7.1 for the option to appear
huh
stiff hazel
DhinakG:
well according to Pallas it's available
green onyx
wha
green onyx
ota blobs r useless
celest basalt
even if it was i'm not risking it, if it gets unsigned mid-restore i'm fucked
are there multiple checks?
i thought there was 1 at the beginning
thats it
yeah
well
yeah, 14.8 is in PublicAssetSets on Pallas
no one really knows what happens if it gets unsigned mid-restore
meaning it should theoretically be OTA signed for everyone
green onyx
meaning it should theoretically be OTA signed for everyone
but it isnt
ah
ota signed
hm
celest basalt
you cant restore to an ota
stiff hazel
meaning it should theoretically be OTA signed for everyone
I’m bothering Dhinak about it in Sileo server
green onyx
@celest basalt do delta otas have sep and bb in them
celest basalt
does the ota update for 14.8 show up if said device is >14.8
stiff hazel
I can also harass tag him here if you all want
zealous bridge
Obviously
celest basalt
you cant restore to an ota
yeah but if it’s public OTA and not delay then maybe we can use SEP/BB for FR
green onyx
yeah but if it’s public OTA and not delay then maybe we can use SEP/BB for FR
that was my idea
celest basalt
<@456226577798135808> do delta otas have sep and bb in them
I mean I guess it has to
stiff hazel
On older devices couldn’t OTA downgrade be an option?
celest basalt
can you use the seb/bb of an ota?
celest basalt
On older devices couldn’t OTA downgrade be an option?
I thought they patched that in like iOS 11
green onyx
On older devices couldn’t OTA downgrade be an option?
uh, ipwndfu doesnt work
royal flint
skree what you want
celest basalt
skree what you want
gm is the update ota signed or not
zealous bridge
can you use the seb/bb of an ota?
Not sure, but theoretically should be able to
celest basalt
14.8
celest basalt
why does 12.5.5 to 10.3.3 work
that uses pwndfu and futurerestore shenanigans I think
the OTA downgrade they patched in 11 is editing systemversion and updating from settings
royal flint
gm is the update ota signed or not
i have no way to tell rn besides what everyone else is using
ill check a phone when I'm home
celest basalt
kk
celest basalt
why does 12.5.5 to 10.3.3 work
its the same reason 8.4.1 works
royal flint
but it's on pallas so
celest basalt
gonna check on my mums phone on 14.8
zealous bridge
10.3.3 is still signed ota
celest basalt
a device on >10 cannot directly update to 12
royal flint
i have a feeling they just changed shit
green onyx
10.3.3 is still signed ota
and apple has yet to unsign this
celest basalt
you have to update to 10 first
stiff hazel
i have a feeling they just changed shit
same
zealous bridge
i have a feeling they just changed shit
this
celest basalt
no
celest basalt
example:
Device on ios 9.0.2
goes to 10.3.3
then goes to 12.5.5
i don't think
lemme try it
2 minutes left on download
green onyx
if it works, then its 100% some random shit they changed
green onyx
2 minutes left on download
alright
zealous bridge
inb4 they take same mechanism used for delay OTAs and apply it to iOS 14 updates
Lol BCert required to update to AzulSecuritySky
I would die
royal flint
Lol
celest basalt
its the same reason for the 5, if you're on 6.1.4< you cant go to 10.3.3 outright, you have to go to 8.4.1 first
stiff hazel
if it works, then its 100% some random shit they changed
Not necessarily
celest basalt
inb4 they take same mechanism used for delay OTAs and apply it to iOS 14 updates
would it still be usable then
stiff hazel
I mean they could’ve changed it in a way that breaks that
green onyx
Not necessarily
my guess is if 14.8 still works with itunes, then they just changed some shit so our tsschecker checks it as unsigned
celest basalt
because FR isnt itunes
stiff hazel
I think they changed something else
royal flint
would it still be usable then
tss checkers would be dead but actual updates would probably work
zealous bridge
Both make identical requests to TSS
stiff hazel
not just “oh they broke tsschecker”
green onyx
Tsschecker isn’t too dissimilar from iTunes
isnt but it happened before with ios 15
celest basalt
my guess is if 14.8 still works with itunes, then they just changed some shit so...
unlikely, why would it start showing as unsigned now and why only 14.8
zealous bridge
isnt but it happened before with ios 15
They added something in a new iOS version which broke it
stiff hazel
unlikely, why would it start showing as unsigned now and why only 14.8
not the first time we’ve seen dumb signing shit though
royal flint
unlikely, why would it start showing as unsigned now and why only 14.8
14.8 is specifically the only version that's in the new iOS 14 release catalog
celest basalt
tss checkers would be dead but actual updates would probably work
well we could have someone check by trying delay OTA once every 3 days and aborting the update
royal flint
so +1
stiff hazel
(See: 15.0 iPhone 13 series unsigning)
celest basalt
well we could have someone check by trying delay OTA once every 3 days and abort...
who tho
royal flint
well we could have someone check by trying delay OTA once every 3 days and abort...
ah yes everyone pitch in to build a robot to automate this
celest basalt
wait was 15.0 axed
celest basalt
wait was 15.0 axed
not yet
stiff hazel
well we could have someone check by trying delay OTA once every 3 days and abort...
I mean couldn’t you just make requests every 3 days then?
zealous bridge
If we had a quantum computer then TSS key would have been cracked by now
green onyx
I mean couldn’t you just make requests every 3 days then?
yes
celest basalt
I mean couldn’t you just make requests every 3 days then?
you need a new BCert every 3 days
stiff hazel
why would an actual delay OTA attempt need to happen
zealous bridge
I mean couldn’t you just make requests every 3 days then?
BCert expired every 3 days
royal flint
I mean couldn’t you just make requests every 3 days then?
you wouldn't be able to automate it is the point
celest basalt
we can’t generate a BCert without the device itself doing it atm
i have a good idea, why dont we just update checkra1n for arm64e devices 
royal flint
where SEP hax