#futurerestore-help | r/Jailbreak | Page 186

green onyx May 30, 2021, 9:26 PM

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stiff hazel May 30, 2021, 9:26 PM

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now that is genius-like

zealous bridge May 30, 2021, 9:27 PM

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dw i’ll give the credit to the owners by adding @ Geniuses to the end of every message

valid adder May 30, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Dead chat

lilac wren May 30, 2021, 10:34 PM

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valid adder Dead chat

At least you're alive

lilac wren May 30, 2021, 11:06 PM

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I have the perfect amount of blobs that just fit on one page

green onyx May 30, 2021, 11:30 PM

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u have ios 13 blobs?

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damn

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 12:49 AM

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Yeah but this is A12

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So pwndfu won't work

green onyx May 31, 2021, 12:58 AM

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lilac wren I have the perfect amount of blobs that just fit on one page

what website is that?

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r/jb telegram bot?

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 12:59 AM

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Yeah

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Well it's just jb telegram bot

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Shsh host basically

shy magnet May 31, 2021, 1:33 AM

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gm hotties

shy magnet May 31, 2021, 1:33 AM

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lilac wren Shsh host basically

oh yeah aren’t that + shsh.host + sysinfo all connected

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 1:39 AM

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Yeah arx8x Incorporated

valid adder May 31, 2021, 1:40 AM

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Good evening chaps

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Wow dead chat

valid adder May 31, 2021, 2:08 AM

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@lilac wren wake up mf

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 2:10 AM

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valid adder <@!353561670934855681> wake up mf

Ok

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 2:10 AM

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valid adder Wow dead chat

At least you're alive

valid adder May 31, 2021, 2:10 AM

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wym

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aRealHours

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Wow that emoji is

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Something else

valid adder May 31, 2021, 2:11 AM

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its a classic

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sad it died

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 2:11 AM

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Lol

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I'm just happy you're here

valid adder May 31, 2021, 2:11 AM

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woeis

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 2:11 AM

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I appreciate you ❤️

valid adder May 31, 2021, 2:11 AM

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ty ig

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@rustic blaze just let me know if 204 works or fails

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I want to fix 32bit

rustic blaze May 31, 2021, 2:32 AM

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I found v 194 om m1sta github

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cant find 204

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sharing the log

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📎 Terminal_Saved_Output.txt

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this iphone 5 is a gsm model

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for sure'

valid adder May 31, 2021, 2:36 AM

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Takes 3 seconds

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rustic blaze May 31, 2021, 2:42 AM

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????

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Sorry but a dumb question

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How do we find the model number of a iPhone

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Settings about tapping the model number doesn’t do anything

valid adder May 31, 2021, 3:01 AM

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settings > about > Model Name, Model Number

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@rustic blaze

rustic blaze May 31, 2021, 4:05 AM

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@valid adder did u happen to check the log

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It’s saying invalid ap ticket

ebon mirage May 31, 2021, 4:14 AM

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posible downgrade ios 14.5.1 to 12.1 with shshblob? iphone 6S?

valid adder May 31, 2021, 4:15 AM

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What log?

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@ebon mirage you can’t go below 13.4

ebon mirage May 31, 2021, 4:20 AM

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valid adder <@582098727897006080> you can’t go below 13.4

ok bro thanks

valid adder May 31, 2021, 4:23 AM

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@rustic blaze what log

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doubt it

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14.2 sep allowed me to go to 13.7

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even on a11

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but since 14.3 we have the sep panic

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yes

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X

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baseband was incompatible and I think I used the wrong savagefw accidently

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 4:32 AM

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https://zootopia.fandom.com/wiki/Night_howler_sickness

Zootopia Wiki

Night howler sickness

Night howler sickness | Zootopia Wiki | Fandom

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This movie all I remember is everyone saying "he's gone savage!!"

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Lmho

valid adder May 31, 2021, 4:32 AM

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@zinc moon savage is the faceid firmware

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 4:33 AM

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ō = long o sound

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Otherwise o = "aww"

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Like in octopus

rustic blaze May 31, 2021, 4:33 AM

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I shared a log

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Trying to downgrade with v194

valid adder May 31, 2021, 4:33 AM

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no because I used the wrong savage @zinc moon

rustic blaze May 31, 2021, 4:34 AM

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It stopped at invalid ap ticket

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@valid adder

valid adder May 31, 2021, 4:34 AM

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@rustic blaze 32bit is still broken idk how to fix that but Ill try

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 4:35 AM

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I meant like in phonetics... ō = long o, any vowel with a line on top = long sound

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 4:35 AM

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gm

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 4:35 AM

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Oh lol

rustic blaze May 31, 2021, 4:35 AM

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But u said u will fix it

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 4:35 AM

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zealous bridge gm

I'm about to go to bed lol it's midnight

rustic blaze May 31, 2021, 4:35 AM

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Any way to downgrade

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32 bit

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 4:36 AM

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5am lol

rustic blaze May 31, 2021, 4:36 AM

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With valid blobs

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 4:36 AM

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rustic blaze Any way to downgrade

Can’t you use iOS OTA downgrader

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 4:36 AM

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Why is apple signing those random firmwares ota lol

valid adder May 31, 2021, 4:37 AM

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its wildly known

rustic blaze May 31, 2021, 4:37 AM

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Let me try iOS ota downgrade

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 4:37 AM

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Something about the millennium bug iirc

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For 32-bit

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 4:40 AM

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zealous bridge Something about the millennium bug iirc

Lol fr?

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I thought it was because the jump was too big

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I remember my aunt's ipad I upgraded from ios 7 to 10 like 3 years ago and it had to OTA to 8 first

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Something like that

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Maybe it was 8 -> 9 first before 10

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 4:40 AM

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yeah everyone has to

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 4:41 AM

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iTunes showed the correct one though

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 4:42 AM

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wot

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 4:44 AM

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I'm hopefully getting 8 hours if I go to bed right right now so gn everyone!!

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 4:44 AM

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gn

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 4:45 AM

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Good night Cryptic we love you

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 4:49 AM

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This came up in my feed and I think this is fitting

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not really

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for A14 maybe

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Delayed OTA: Am I a joke to you?

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 4:53 AM

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Delayed ipsw eta when :(

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 4:53 AM

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😭

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oddly specific

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~~technically the device doesn’t boot when it’s at 0% so is that a bootloop~~

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literally no energy is required for the low battery screen to be displayed

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but phones do shut down with a tiny bit of charge left at least

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After there’s no more charge to turn on it won’t

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~~well unless you’re on a blackberry~~

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shared cellular network

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 5:00 AM

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No sim card can call 911 so long as it's cellular capable right

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 5:00 AM

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At least in the UK

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you can call from any WiFi/Cellular device

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 5:01 AM

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What's 911 in the uk

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 5:01 AM

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999

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 5:01 AM

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333 or something right

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Oh ok

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 5:01 AM

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My sister works there

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 5:01 AM

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Ooh that's cool but a bit scary

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 5:02 AM

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Stressful lol

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And a bit chilling

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 5:02 AM

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Yeah I could never do that

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Respect

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 5:03 AM

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makes about 23£ an hour tho

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good pay especially on a low level

foggy hull May 31, 2021, 5:05 AM

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Did i brick my iphone? It bootlooped and I tried to futurerestore (no success), tried dfu restoring through itunes (no success) also checked for all windows updates, tried using a macbook to restore (10.15.7). the phone always reboots itself to recovery during first seconds of restore. The last thing i did it with my phone was restoring rootfs with taurine

valid adder May 31, 2021, 5:05 AM

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tf

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 5:06 AM

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You’re using OTA blobs for an IPSW restore

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Use idevicerestore from DFU mode

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 5:06 AM

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With --erase and --latest

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:31 AM

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dont wake him up

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lol

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:33 AM

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joes mother

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:33 AM

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still awake?

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:34 AM

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me?

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:34 AM

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yes

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:34 AM

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its 1230am

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not that late

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:34 AM

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Oh

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Keep forgetting America has dimensionally different time zones

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:35 AM

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I guess thats how they thought the sun works

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aparrently the sun also changes up on you

stiff hazel May 31, 2021, 7:35 AM

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It’s 2:35 AM for me

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valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:35 AM

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they change their clocks every so often

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I didn't know the sun magically jumps

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:36 AM

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lol ikr

outer junco May 31, 2021, 9:48 AM

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i tried to restore but its giving me an unable to place device in restore mode and crashes

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after "restorekernelcache"

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now the device wont boot anymore and default goes into recovery mode

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this is on a mac

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 9:50 AM

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what version of futurerestore

outer junco May 31, 2021, 9:50 AM

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180

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 9:50 AM

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why so old

outer junco May 31, 2021, 9:50 AM

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dunno

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 9:50 AM

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use the updated one

outer junco May 31, 2021, 9:50 AM

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its the one at the root of github repo

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 9:50 AM

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no

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outer junco May 31, 2021, 9:51 AM

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hmm

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guess im on the wrong one

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wheres the right place to download

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 9:52 AM

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https://github.com/m1stadev/futurerestore

GitHub

m1stadev/futurerestore

A hacked up idevicerestore wrapper, which allows specifying SEP and Baseband for restoring - m1stadev/futurerestore

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who hasnt

outer junco May 31, 2021, 9:53 AM

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im on this one

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https://github.com/tihmstar/futurerestore

GitHub

tihmstar/futurerestore

A hacked up idevicerestore wrapper, which allows specifying SEP and Baseband for restoring - tihmstar/futurerestore

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 9:53 AM

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old

outer junco May 31, 2021, 9:53 AM

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ah ok

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 9:55 AM

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You boutta bootloop everyone

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How is clicking on “Update iPhone” gonna restore the phone?

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downgrading sometimes bootloops especially if it’s from 14.5+ down to 14.5-

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never know when apple bricks their /var compatibility

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the point is the fact that it happened means it could happen again

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this tutorial isn’t only for now

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If you’re gonna make them do a backup

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Just tell them to restore

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no tell them to click restore instead of update

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Also

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It isn’t Alt + Click

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You have a mac and you still don’t know

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It’s Option + Click

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yes

outer junco May 31, 2021, 9:59 AM

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hmm

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i updated and its suck in waiting for device to disconnect

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 10:00 AM

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Ys

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Yes

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You’ll get an error in about 5 seconds

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Just run futurerestore again

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@zinc moon ys

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that button is option

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Idk

outer junco May 31, 2021, 10:02 AM

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zealous bridge Just run futurerestore again

the phone is stuck on an empty screen now

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is it supposed to be like that

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 10:03 AM

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Whats the futurerestore output

outer junco May 31, 2021, 10:03 AM

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waiting to reconnect?

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and its stuck on failed to put in restore mode

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 10:03 AM

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what device is this

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 10:04 AM

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outer junco and its stuck on failed to put in restore mode

DM me your blob if you can

outer junco May 31, 2021, 10:04 AM

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the 8

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 10:04 AM

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what version

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hmm

mystic axleBOT May 31, 2021, 10:04 AM

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dimentio

PoC tool for setting/getting nonce without triggering KPP/KTRR/PAC. (requires tfp0)

Author

0x7ff

Version

2.0.0-1

Price

Free

Repo

1Conan

Add Repo

Click Here

More Info

View on Parcility

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 10:04 AM

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2.0.0-1

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lol

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lol

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what is nonce_d

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fucked up the output

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!t libimobiledevice

mystic axleBOT May 31, 2021, 10:09 AM

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zealous bridge !t libimobiledevice

libimobiledevice

Up to date libimobiledevice builds:

Windows: https://github.com/libimobiledevice-win32/imobiledevice-net/releases
macOS: brew install --HEAD libimobiledevice libirecovery
Linux: https://cadoth.net/~nyuszika7h/libimobiledevice-static-linux.tar.gz

valid adder May 31, 2021, 10:17 AM

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I’m assuming digest

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 10:19 AM

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btw Siguza said that nvram/dimentio working on checkra1n as mobile is probably a bug

valid adder May 31, 2021, 10:21 AM

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Inb4 policy update

green onyx May 31, 2021, 11:57 AM

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tf is happening

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also

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pog ios 15 coming in 1 week

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 1:54 PM

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zealous bridge

Yeah it's option

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If you hold fn and press it it's alt I think

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Gm

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 1:54 PM

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you slept for

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 1:54 PM

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I think

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How long uh

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 1:55 PM

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6?

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7?

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idk

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 1:55 PM

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7 + 30 min

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Time to read everything in the gc

green onyx May 31, 2021, 1:58 PM

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lol

rustic blaze May 31, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Downgraded using iOS ota downgraded script

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Fantastic work

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Congrats

rustic blaze May 31, 2021, 2:01 PM

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By luke

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Nice to know that still works

rustic blaze May 31, 2021, 2:02 PM

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Yep

green onyx May 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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pog

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Can we do OTA downgrader manually

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By just getting OTA blobs with a tss request

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And then using pwndfu in FR

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Oh but SEP and BB

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Does pwndfu use the SEP from blob or how does that work

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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lilac wren By just getting OTA blobs with a tss request

Sure

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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lilac wren Does pwndfu use the SEP from blob or how does that work

no, it just uses latest SEP/BB like normal

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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How does OTA downgrader work then

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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you could save the OTA blobs if you want to reuse them with pwndfu, but at that point why not just use tsssaver or tsschecker to get them

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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lilac wren How does OTA downgrader work then

creates unsigned firmware bundle, then used pwndfu to patch all the checks

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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lilac wren How does OTA downgrader work then

10.3.3 is fully OTA signed including SEP/BB

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Oh ok

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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I think that might be it, or maybe it's just compatible

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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zealous bridge creates unsigned firmware bundle, then used pwndfu to patch all the checks

signs it using blob then loads onto device

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to make it untethered

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Yeah that makes sense

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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well, actually yeah since it's still being signed, it can just request fresh SEP/BB ticket with whatever nonce

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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So you probably couldn't use FR then

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 2:21 PM

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but I think it may work even without that because people were saying to save 10.3.3 OTA blobs

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Do you think 15 will support A9?

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Is that 6s

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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probably not but idk

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some of the legacy devices/iOS versions didn't even have regular OTA downgrade prevention, but I think 10.3.3 already needs a specialized tool... not 100% familiar with legacy stuff

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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iPhone 6s had ios 9? Lol wow

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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you used to be able to quite literally spoof systemversion and downgrade with OTA

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Lol

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Well Deon did that on 14

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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I think iOS 10 or 11 blocked that, and maybe the introduction of SEP also had a part in breaking that

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Might be more recent than we think

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If deon is to be believed

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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not sure but I've seen multiple threads on reddit

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saying OTA downgrade (from settings) doesn't work anymore, from years ago

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and people mentioned iOS updates and SEP breaking it

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 2:24 PM

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Something doesnt match up then

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Nooo not intune lol

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My boy Scott from Airwatch has me covered

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Rip

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 3:03 PM

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lilac wren My boy Scott from Airwatch has me covered

Yes

brazen thicket May 31, 2021, 4:08 PM

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when that 14.5.1 jb comes out can i just futurerestore with my blobs or do i have to downgrade normally

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 4:08 PM

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brazen thicket when that 14.5.1 jb comes out can i just futurerestore with my blobs or do i hav...

if you're on A12 or above you have to downgrade now while it's signed

brazen thicket May 31, 2021, 4:10 PM

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okay. i’m on a10 so i’ll just wait for it to come out and maybe i’ll futurerestore.

lavish pulsar May 31, 2021, 6:05 PM

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Hi! Can i ask how to get jb on iphone 11 ios 14.5.1?

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 6:16 PM

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lavish pulsar Hi! Can i ask how to get jb on iphone 11 ios 14.5.1?

There is none

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And don’t ask here

keen bay May 31, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Hey can someone help me please? I'm on iPhone XS on Chimera. I have 14.3 blobs saved from a while ago and I've finally decided to upgrade/Futurerestore from iOS 12.0 to 14.3 before jailbreaking again.

I followed this guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/m0r24m/free_release_futurerestore_gui_a_userfriendly/ but got "Device ApNonce does not match APTicket nonce" error once I started the Futurerestore.

I then following this guide: https://ios.cfw.guide/futurerestore#getting-started and got to step 3 "Once the command executes, a lot of text should appear" which didn't happen.

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:27 PM

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try login as root

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run su

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the password should be alpine

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then just run dimentio 0x111111111111111 or whatever it is

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:27 PM

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probably have the wrong or outdated dimentio

keen bay May 31, 2021, 7:28 PM

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yup have tried that

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do you guys know the best dimentio repo?

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the one mentioned on that guide seems to have been taken down

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:28 PM

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https://repo.1conan.com

keen bay May 31, 2021, 7:28 PM

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so i installed a random one on reddit

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:28 PM

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it hasnt

keen bay May 31, 2021, 7:28 PM

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weird, let me check again

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yeah its not there for me 😫

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Remove the one you already have

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keen bay May 31, 2021, 7:30 PM

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yep have done so. let me try refresh sileo app

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:31 PM

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Do you want a link to the deb

keen bay May 31, 2021, 7:31 PM

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ahhh still not there

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yes please (although i may need some help from there)

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:32 PM

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this is why you refresh sources

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also use the search in the bottom right

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:32 PM

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https://repo.1conan.com/./debs/com.0x7ff.dimentio_2.0.7-1_iphoneos-arm.deb

keen bay May 31, 2021, 7:32 PM

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i refreshed, removed source, re-added, searched, everything haha. its very strange

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thanks!

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do i download/open that on phone?

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Yeah you can just import it to sileo

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what

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didnt know root was called dimentio

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:34 PM

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why hasn't this mf responded to my github reply yet...

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this pissed me off

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:34 PM

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lol

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:34 PM

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lol

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told you

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:34 PM

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mf's post an issue on github then leave never to return

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:35 PM

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valid adder mf's post an issue on github then leave never to return

which is why discord is better

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reaching back to ppl on discord is easier imo

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:35 PM

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hey can you fix my stereo? then they leave and never pick up the fixed stereo

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:35 PM

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valid adder hey can you fix my stereo? then they leave and never pick up the fixed stereo

free stereo TrollFront

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:36 PM

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@zealous bridge fixing it was murder because the brand doesn't let the manufacturer hand out schematics or parts so it ended up costing double the original msrp to begin with

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#righttorepair

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I can't believe I just got mad at a hypothetical situation

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lmao

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:38 PM

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valid adder <@!330016421817876490> fixing it was murder because the brand doesn't let the ma...

Since when did Apple sell stereos trolllaugh

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:39 PM

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valid adder I can't believe I just got mad at a hypothetical situation

if you feel bad about it maybe apologising will make you feel better, then again there isn’t much to apologise about, your point was valid, just delivered a bit passive aggressively lol

keen bay May 31, 2021, 7:39 PM

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zealous bridge Yeah you can just import it to sileo

ive downloaded it to my filza, how do i import to sileo?

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:40 PM

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keen bay ive downloaded it to my filza, how do i import to sileo?

Edit > Select File > More > Open with > Sileo

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:40 PM

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Im saying I can't believe I went on a rant complaining about something that never happened

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:40 PM

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valid adder Im saying I can't believe I went on a rant complaining about something that neve...

It wasnt really a rant

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Just a mildly aggressive speech

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:41 PM

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zealous bridge Since when did Apple sell stereos <:trolllaugh:807753675774754817>

2006

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:41 PM

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rip

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:41 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_Hi-Fi?wprov=sfti1

IPod Hi-Fi

iPod Hi-Fi was a speaker system that was developed and manufactured by Apple Inc. and was released on February 28, 2006, for use with any iPod digital music player. The iPod Hi-Fi retailed at the Apple Store for US$349 until its discontinuation on September 5, 2007.

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:41 PM

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frcoal

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Lmfao

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Just dont get caught

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:42 PM

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Ew where’s the ublock origin

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:42 PM

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theres the problem

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you aren't using firefox

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:42 PM

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soft turtle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_Hi-Fi?wprov=sfti1

Yeah whatever money you spent towards that you might as well just throw away

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:42 PM

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WeSmart

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:42 PM

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soft turtle Ew where’s the ublock origin

true

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:42 PM

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An actually good adblocker

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:42 PM

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the best adblocker

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doesnt have outdated shit

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:42 PM

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i dont get it whats wrong with macos safari

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:42 PM

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always updated

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:42 PM

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these are the addons yall should get

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:42 PM

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Instead of the garbage Adblock [plus]

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:42 PM

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also open source

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:43 PM

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bro how do you not know ublock origin

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:43 PM

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I like Safari

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:43 PM

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soft turtle I like Safari

firefox better imo

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:43 PM

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i made all my teachers dl that straight away lol

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:43 PM

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@soft turtle do u have these yet

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:43 PM

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green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:43 PM

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valid adder <@!416760227778527232> do u have these yet

bitwarden > lastpass

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:43 PM

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~~imagine using the internet~~

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:43 PM

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green onyx bitwarden > lastpass

This

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Open source >>

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:43 PM

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valid adder <@!416760227778527232> do u have these yet

Wow too many extensions lol, I only use ublock out of those

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:43 PM

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@green onyx lastpass family, I don't pay for it

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same with spotify

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:44 PM

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valid adder <@!489890032635871232> lastpass family, I don't pay for it

ah, but tbh bitwarden does the same thing and free

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and its open source

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:44 PM

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@green onyx but lastpass does what I need it too

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:44 PM

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on the internet

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:44 PM

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oh, its manifest v3 KEKW chrome is dogshit

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:44 PM

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valid adder <@!489890032635871232> but lastpass does what I need it too

true

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switched to firefox when manifest v3 came out

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:45 PM

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I still use LastPass without paying also

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:45 PM

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@soft turtle you will get buttfucked soon

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:45 PM

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I just never updated the LastPass app on my phone so I don’t have to deal with the device restrictions

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:45 PM

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lastpass will eventually kick in the trial end

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:45 PM

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valid adder lastpass will eventually kick in the trial end

which is why u use bitwarden if u cant pay

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:46 PM

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I’ve been using LastPass for years

valid adder May 31, 2021, 7:46 PM

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it will let you transfer between mobile and desktop a maximum of 5 times

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when the end trial kicks in

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then you are stuck on that platform until u pay

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Yeah it doesn’t know that I’m transferring because I haven’t updated the app

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 7:46 PM

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see that's why you use bitwarden, it's free and unlimited

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:46 PM

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celest basalt see that's why you use bitwarden, it's free and unlimited

this

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 7:46 PM

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only paid thing in it is the option to store 2FA codes in bitwarden too, for $10/year

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:47 PM

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It probably is better but im too lazy to switch

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:47 PM

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celest basalt only paid thing in it is the option to store 2FA codes in bitwarden too, for $10...

also cloud storage

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 7:47 PM

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no it doesn't

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:47 PM

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BitWarden has migration from LastPass lol

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 7:47 PM

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<@&557588738881093648>

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:47 PM

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I’m pretty sure I’ve seen it

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:47 PM

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zealous bridge BitWarden has migration from LastPass lol

Oh didn’t even know

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That would make it much easier

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:47 PM

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zealous bridge BitWarden has migration from LastPass lol

probably some script from github can do it

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:48 PM

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green onyx probably some script from github can do it

https://bitwarden.com/help/article/import-from-lastpass/ even better, it’s native

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 7:48 PM

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yeah bc that's pingable

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:48 PM

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zealous bridge https://bitwarden.com/help/article/import-from-lastpass/ even better, it’s nativ...

damn

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lol

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 7:48 PM

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I used to use an online password manager called Mibbit, then another one called Passpack, then I went to LastPass, 1Password and now Bitwarden

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well and KeePass too at some point (local)

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:49 PM

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I wish there was a native app for bitwarden, don’t want to add yet another electron app

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:50 PM

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soft turtle I wish there was a native app for bitwarden, don’t want to add yet another elect...

bitwarden has a native app

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???

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:50 PM

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It’s electron

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:50 PM

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damn fr?

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 7:50 PM

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they use Xamarin for iOS, for desktop I just use the Chrome addon

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:50 PM

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~~better than UWP~~

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:50 PM

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uhh chrome

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:51 PM

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I think the english language did

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:51 PM

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^

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:51 PM

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celest basalt they use Xamarin for iOS, for desktop I just use the Chrome addon

Xamarin also supports desktop too, surprised they don’t port it

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Count your lucky stars JTV hasn’t seen this yet

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:51 PM

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green onyx damn fr?

Yeah unfortunately

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:52 PM

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I think it’s been used before in security research before iOS jailbreaking was a thing

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:52 PM

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soft turtle Yeah unfortunately

damn rip

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:53 PM

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I’d rather Electron than UWP on Windows

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:53 PM

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true

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UWP is trash

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its slow af

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:53 PM

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And you need to download it from the Microsoft Store

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:54 PM

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swiftui > uwp

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 7:54 PM

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yup

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wait actually we can get a native bitwarden app

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since the xamarin mobile app is open source, we can compile it for desktop or catalyst i think

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:55 PM

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@green onyx have you ever tried gaining permissions of a file in a UWP app

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shits a nightmare

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:55 PM

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soft turtle since the xamarin mobile app is open source, we can compile it for desktop or ca...

probably, u probably need some changes tho

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:55 PM

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you have to takeown the entire WindowsApps folder

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:55 PM

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zealous bridge shits a nightmare

seems legit

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Even elevevated users cant del files inside uwp apps

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I had to go to Linux and mount it that way

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:56 PM

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isnt it stored in system32 or smthn?

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idk

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:58 PM

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ProgramFiles lol

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:58 PM

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@soft turtle https://github.com/skyelights/valawarden theres a native app for elementary

GitHub

skyelights/valawarden

Unofficial native Bitwarden client for elementary OS - skyelights/valawarden

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 7:59 PM

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for minecraft it's C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.MinecraftUWP_1.16.10004.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\data, gl tryna get into that tho

green onyx May 31, 2021, 7:59 PM

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also one for macos https://github.com/jnsdrtlf/bitwarden-menubar

GitHub

jnsdrtlf/bitwarden-menubar

Bitwarden in the macOS menu bar. Contribute to jnsdrtlf/bitwarden-menubar development by creating an account on GitHub.

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:01 PM

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green onyx <@!416760227778527232> https://github.com/skyelights/valawarden theres a native ...

oh wow had no idea

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wonder how hard it would be to port that to macos then

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:01 PM

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green onyx also one for macos https://github.com/jnsdrtlf/bitwarden-menubar

. kinda native imo

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:02 PM

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green onyx . kinda native imo

i think it still uses the browser extension with so not fully native but at least better than electron

keen bay May 31, 2021, 8:02 PM

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i got all of the dimentio/newterm terminal to work as expected (ran scripts etc). im running futurerestore again but still get this error. im using chimera so i used "0xbd34a880be0b53f3". any ideas? 😩

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:02 PM

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keen bay i got all of the dimentio/newterm terminal to work as expected (ran scripts etc)...

upload ur blob to https://verify.shsh.host and screenshot it here

SHSH Host Verify

SHSH Host

Verify SHSH2 files saved for your device for up/downgrading to unsigned iOS versions using futurerestore

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hide ecid

keen bay May 31, 2021, 8:03 PM

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okay cool, do i select my current ios version or my blob ios version

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:03 PM

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keen bay okay cool, do i select my current ios version or my blob ios version

no, select the ios version that u saved the blob for

keen bay May 31, 2021, 8:05 PM

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green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:06 PM

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uh

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what device is this?

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:06 PM

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yeah uh im guessing you saved with blobsaver v2.X or the tss saver website without a generator?

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@keen bay try doing 0x1111111111111111

keen bay May 31, 2021, 8:07 PM

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green onyx what device is this?

iphone xs

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:07 PM

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gg

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@keen bay what ios version are u on?

keen bay May 31, 2021, 8:07 PM

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zealous bridge yeah uh im guessing you saved with blobsaver v2.X or the tss saver website witho...

i used this guide a while ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/g38zic/tutorial_easiest_way_to_save_blobs_for_a12a13/ it seemed like the easiest thing at the time. im not tech-savvy in this field unfortunately

r/jailbreak - [Tutorial] Easiest way to save blobs for A12/A13 with...

173 votes and 105 comments so far on Reddit

keen bay May 31, 2021, 8:07 PM

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green onyx <@!703343927062822942> what ios version are u on?

ios 12.0

keen bay May 31, 2021, 8:08 PM

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zealous bridge <@703343927062822942> try doing 0x1111111111111111

cool ill try that

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:08 PM

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keen bay i used this guide a while ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/g38zi...

Yeah that isn’t the best

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:08 PM

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keen bay ios 12.0

what jailbreak did u use?

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when u saved those blobs

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:08 PM

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If 0x1111… gives you the same error you’re probably screwed

keen bay May 31, 2021, 8:08 PM

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green onyx what jailbreak did u use?

chimera

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:08 PM

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uhh

keen bay May 31, 2021, 8:08 PM

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zealous bridge If 0x1111… gives you the same error you’re probably screwed

haha damn. as long as i dont lose my current jailbreak, then its cool

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:08 PM

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you can use this to do it faster

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:08 PM

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chimera might not have set nonce properly during jb

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:09 PM

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https://routinehub.co/shortcut/9065/

RoutineHub - Nonce Setter

Automated way of setting your generator for FutureRestore.

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it’ll prompt you to choose a generator then it’ll check if it matches

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just make sure you have openssh

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 8:09 PM

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keen bay i used this guide a while ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/g38zi...

@soft turtle what is this -_-

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(optional) Use a jailbreak tool or nonce setter on your device to set the generator; this will allow you to use the blobs even if your device's nonce changes.

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:09 PM

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if neither of the defaults work you’re probably screwed

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 8:09 PM

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The nonce changes every reboot unjailbroken...

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This was not optional lol

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:09 PM

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lilac wren > (optional) Use a jailbreak tool or nonce setter on your device to set the gene...

You don’t know how many people got screwed cause of that

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I hated blobsaver before lol

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:09 PM

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zealous bridge I hated blobsaver before lol

same

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 8:10 PM

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I almost did blobsaver lol bc I was too lazy to get a generator nonce pair

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Before I realized what it was

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:10 PM

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when 14.3 jb first came out

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at least 50 people got their nonces fucked up (in this channel)

keen bay May 31, 2021, 8:10 PM

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okay cool thanks! ill look into it, im a noob at this 😫 already sounds like headache

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:11 PM

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keen bay okay cool thanks! ill look into it, im a noob at this 😫 already sounds like he...

what are u using to set generator

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the chimera app?

keen bay May 31, 2021, 8:11 PM

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yep

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:11 PM

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yeah probably not the best idea

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if you use the shortcut i gave you it’ll do it properly

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:12 PM

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zealous bridge at least 50 people got their nonces fucked up (in this channel)

yikes ok, on reddit when i posted about it for most people who messaged me at least, the apnonce didn't change across reboots

keen bay May 31, 2021, 8:12 PM

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zealous bridge if you use the shortcut i gave you it’ll do it properly

is it too late to do it now? or can i still do it and then futurerestore to 14.3?

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 8:12 PM

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Probably bc they set generator

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:12 PM

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keen bay is it too late to do it now? or can i still do it and then futurerestore to 14.3...

u can try

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:12 PM

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lilac wren Probably bc they set generator

they were all unjailbroken

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:13 PM

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lol that makes no sense, nonce means to use only once, apnonce was designed to change every reboot

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 8:13 PM

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I'm so lucky I used tss saver and got valid 14.3, getting ap nonce generator pair was a nightmare back then

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:13 PM

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keen bay is it too late to do it now? or can i still do it and then futurerestore to 14.3...

do it now

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not too late

keen bay May 31, 2021, 8:13 PM

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okay thanks guys. have to head out for a bit but ill try again later

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:13 PM

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maybe tomorrow

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Tuesday is sometimes unsigning day

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:14 PM

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zealous bridge lol that makes no sense, nonce means to use only once, apnonce was designed to c...

Idk why but it did work 🤷‍♂️

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For some people at least

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:14 PM

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yeah if we did a controlled experiment right now i would back what i said to win lol

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probably circumstantial

stiff hazel May 31, 2021, 8:15 PM

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They might not be unsigning it because it’s Memorial Day

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:15 PM

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also maybe most of them were using checkra1n and had generator set in nvram, persists even when unjb

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 8:15 PM

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I mean getting nonce in normal mode sets a random generator which causes it to freeze until one of the following:

device is rebooted AND another apnonce request is made in normal mode (iTunes/OTA update check, or manual igetnonce/etc.)
device is restored or updated

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:16 PM

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blobsaver used nonce from recovery

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 8:16 PM

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generator persists when unjailbroken regardless of the jailbreak, just might reset in the above cases

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:16 PM

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which doesn’t cause a freeze

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 8:16 PM

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that alone doesn't if they used v2.x, but if it was already frozen before for some reason then...

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 8:16 PM

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celest basalt I mean getting nonce in normal mode sets a random generator which causes it to f...

This was blobsaver 2.0 though

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 8:16 PM

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it's possible that even just downloading an OTA update freezes your nonce 🤔

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:17 PM

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Yeah I never did a large amount of testing on it so idk

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 8:17 PM

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idk if there's anything in place to clear it if the user doesn't actually end up updating, or maybe it's only set when you press install

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:17 PM

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It worked fine for my friends who had a12 and a lot of other people who messaged

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:18 PM

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they would’ve been one time use blobs anyway

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:18 PM

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So I posted that hoping there would be a chance it would be usable

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:18 PM

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zealous bridge they would’ve been one time use blobs anyway

Yes

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:18 PM

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so that’s probably why

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Better than no blobs at least is what I was thinking when I posted

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:18 PM

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ppl save blobs for long term tho

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for "future"restore

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:19 PM

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well still a very different impression you gave out tho

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:19 PM

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doesnt matter, blobsaver 2.0 was a mess and thats it

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blobsaver 3.0 is good imo

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:20 PM

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green onyx ppl save blobs for long term tho

Well yeah ofc not ideal but at least having blobs that you can use once is still better than having no blobs

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I agree though I should have been clearer about what exactly it was, that was a mistake

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Already on homebrew

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:21 PM

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its there

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lol

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:21 PM

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soft turtle Well yeah ofc not ideal but at least having blobs that you can use once is still...

it’s not “one use blobs” as in you can use it once whenever, you can use it once on that particular reboot lol

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Thats how nonces work

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 8:21 PM

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Not even one use

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0 use

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Unless you stay in recovery until 14.3 comes out

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:22 PM

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zealous bridge it’s not “one use blobs” as in you can use it once whenever, you can use it once...

In multiple tests on my friends’ devices and other people who messaged it worked across reboots

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:22 PM

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guys

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we should stop arguing

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and let it pass for airsquared imo

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its fine

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:23 PM

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yeah that’s probably because they had a generator set somehow, i can’t think of any other way lol

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:23 PM

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green onyx we should stop arguing

You seem to have a knack for thinking everyone’s arguing when they’re just talking normally lol

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I’m just explaining how nonces work and why that method of saving blobs was kinda wack

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:24 PM

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They never jailbroke before so idk how they had a generator set but idk

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:24 PM

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zealous bridge You seem to have a knack for thinking everyone’s arguing when they’re just talki...

mb

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idk

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i felt like everyone was attacking airsquared

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mb

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:24 PM

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all good lol

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:24 PM

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green onyx i felt like everyone was attacking airsquared

Ty for the concern tho lol

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:25 PM

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soft turtle They never jailbroke before so idk how they had a generator set but idk

Someone could probably test it with a fresh restore with iTunes

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Nah the specification is either GSM or Global

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 8:26 PM

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just use read from device

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:26 PM

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which is done with device identifiers

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so you don’t rly need board config

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:26 PM

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https://github.com/airsquared/blobsaver/blob/master/src/main/resources/airsquared/blobsaver/app/boardconfigs.properties

GitHub

airsquared/blobsaver

A cross-platform GUI app for saving SHSH blobs using tsschecker - airsquared/blobsaver

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Here is the map

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 8:27 PM

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don't some of them have multiple boardconfigs

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:27 PM

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yeah they’re commented out

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like 6s

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 8:28 PM

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Yeah if it’s not in the boardconfigs file it will ask for a boardconfig

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:30 PM

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yes

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It doesn’t use OTA manifest that’s why

valid adder May 31, 2021, 8:34 PM

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TrollFront

Screen_Shot_2021-05-31_at_1.33.44_PM.png

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:34 PM

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valid adder May 31, 2021, 8:34 PM

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inside joke

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:34 PM

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how did he get it to 5.1.1

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with blobs?

valid adder May 31, 2021, 8:35 PM

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the joke isn't related to the downgrade at all

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:35 PM

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yes ik

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oh wait

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:35 PM

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valid adder <:TrollFront:790745323743477760>

Lmfaooo

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 8:35 PM

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soft turtle Yeah if it’s not in the boardconfigs file it will ask for a boardconfig

you know, why not just do

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lockdownd_get_value("HardwareModel")

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❯ ideviceinfo -k HardwareModel
D221AP

valid adder May 31, 2021, 8:35 PM

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wen Advanced Comedian role

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:35 PM

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TSSchecker doesn’t need the board config unless it’s for devices with multiple ones

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Just the device ID does it

valid adder May 31, 2021, 8:36 PM

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tsschecker is trash

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kinda but hasn't even got off the ground

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:41 PM

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ios for ATV?

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:42 PM

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lol

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 8:42 PM

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yeah Apple TV 3rd gen wasn't tvOS yet

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officially iOS 8.x for Apple TV is called "Apple TV Software 7.x"

vivid nova May 31, 2021, 8:45 PM

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because it's Apple

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not really

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there's still the + services..

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atv2 eol

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:49 PM

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Another webkit exploit for 14.6

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tf

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https://twitter.com/theori_io/status/1397584885649313796?s=21

Theori (@theori_io)

A few weeks ago, we found an exploitable bug in WebKit which was fixed before we could report to Apple. Interestingly, the latest iOS versions are still vulnerable. Since other exploits for this bug are public, we share our root cause analysis and exploit. https://t.co/qJf8ZxL9QH

Retweets

136

Likes

316

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14.6 is vulnerable

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don’t know about 14.7 beta

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probably might

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:51 PM

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ios 14 is ripe for webkit based jailbreaks

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:52 PM

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there’s a couple that can be used for 8.00 to 8.03 jbs iirc

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dk about the latest version

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still needs a kernel exploit

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 8:53 PM

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zealous bridge https://twitter.com/theori_io/status/1397584885649313796?s=21

that's the same vuln

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just different exploit method

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:53 PM

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weird enough that webkits dont work on ios 14.5- but work 14.5+

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:53 PM

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green onyx weird enough that webkits dont work on ios 14.5- but work 14.5+

Lol apple trying to add new features but using shitty code to do so

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:54 PM

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celest basalt just different exploit method

oh

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 8:54 PM

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that's because the feature that introduced the bug was added in Safari 14.1 (iOS 14.5)

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iOS 14.6 has 14.1.1 but still vulnerable

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:54 PM

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help

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how do i upgrade my safari

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without updating my ios /s

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:54 PM

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safari blobs eta wen

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:54 PM

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https://twitter.com/rpwnage/status/1399467964076859408

rpwnage (@rpwnage)

Good news. This exploit can make pwnMy compatible with iOS 14.6. I‘ll include it to give support to both iOS 14.5 and 14.6. these are very good news for the safari jailbreak project. Keep in mind that while these are good news, a kernel exploit is still needed. https://t.co/49XpZXc82m

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yo what

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:55 PM

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told you

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geosn0w boutta be like NEW EXPLOIT JAILBREAK

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14.6 RIGHT NOW

green onyx May 31, 2021, 8:55 PM

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lol

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KEKW

zealous bridge May 31, 2021, 8:55 PM

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(Safari Jailbreak)

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Yeah maybe it won’t be unsigned today

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One more day bois

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 9:00 PM

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celest basalt `lockdownd_get_value("HardwareModel")`

Already does that, what I meant was that it’ll show the text box that can be filled in with the read from device button

celest basalt May 31, 2021, 9:00 PM

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oh nice

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was too lazy to check the code and my iPX doesn't have multiple boardconfigs for the same device code so

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 9:01 PM

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Oh lol

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 9:01 PM

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zealous bridge TSSchecker doesn’t need the board config unless it’s for devices with multiple o...

Yeah I just like to include it in the tsschecker arguments anyway because when new devices are added I don’t have to update tsschecker every time

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I only then have to update the properties file

valid adder May 31, 2021, 9:40 PM

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dead chat

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 9:58 PM

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At least you're alive

valid adder May 31, 2021, 10:03 PM

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Lmao my dog licked my phone and she hit the home button which switch apps because swipe right

green onyx May 31, 2021, 10:07 PM

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lilac wren May 31, 2021, 11:25 PM

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Lol my dog paws the keyboard on my laptop and either writes junk or presses enter, sending a half written email or something lol

soft turtle May 31, 2021, 11:29 PM

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i want a dog that can code for me

lilac wren May 31, 2021, 11:39 PM

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At that point you just hire someone lol

outer junco Jun 1, 2021, 12:26 AM

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how can i put a iphone 8 into dfu mode from off state

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 12:45 AM

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!t dfu

mystic axleBOT Jun 1, 2021, 12:45 AM

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lilac wren !t dfu

dfu

How to enter DFU mode or enter Recovery Mode on each device

outer junco Jun 1, 2021, 1:52 AM

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lilac wren !t dfu

the device isnt on

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 2:20 AM

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outer junco the device isnt on

if it doesn’t turn on then it’s hardware damage lol

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Take it to an Apple store

outer junco Jun 1, 2021, 2:35 AM

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nnono like

outer junco Jun 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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lilac wren if it doesn’t turn on then it’s hardware damage lol

when i try to normally turn it on it gets stuck in a bootloop

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shows apple logo for a few seconds

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goes black

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turns off

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repeat

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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Then go to dfu

outer junco Jun 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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yea thats what im asking lol

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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Lol then do it

outer junco Jun 1, 2021, 2:37 AM

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the instructions said to do it and i saw a video for it but the demo was when the phone was on

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and when i try that when its off it doesnt workk

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just gets into the same loop

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Dfu always works

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You just need to get the timing right

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Try it when the phone is in the bootloop instead if you want

solemn dome Jun 1, 2021, 4:04 AM

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outer junco shows apple logo for a few seconds

your bootloop describes a problem I had with my 8 plus about a year ago, for me restoring in iTunes fixed it
sure, I lost the data that was on it at the time, but at least I had a working phone again after that

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you don't have to restore if you don't want, but restoring is what fixed it for me

valid adder Jun 1, 2021, 4:04 AM

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That’s why you have auto backup

outer junco Jun 1, 2021, 4:05 AM

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the boot is completely broken on it lol

outer junco Jun 1, 2021, 4:05 AM

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solemn dome your bootloop describes a problem I had with my 8 plus about a year ago, for me ...

im getting a 3504 error on itunes

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and the error codes list says nothing about it

solemn dome Jun 1, 2021, 4:05 AM

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valid adder That’s why you have auto backup

I didn't sadly at the time

valid adder Jun 1, 2021, 4:05 AM

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Why didn’t you recommend idevicerestore

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iTunes is useless software

solemn dome Jun 1, 2021, 4:06 AM

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valid adder Why didn’t you recommend idevicerestore

because I actually had experienced this situation before and a restore through iTunes for Mac fixed it.

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 4:06 AM

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hello

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I am getting this error

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ERROR: tss_send_request: Unhandled status code 162

solemn dome Jun 1, 2021, 4:09 AM

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outer junco im getting a 3504 error on itunes

I honestly don't know what to do for that, maybe try reinstalling iTunes and/or just restoring the iPhone altogether if you haven't tried that

valid adder Jun 1, 2021, 4:10 AM

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Never use iTunes after a restore fail

toxic lotus Jun 1, 2021, 4:10 AM

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idevicerestore ofc

lofty ginkgo Jun 1, 2021, 4:10 AM

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Use idevicerestore

toxic lotus Jun 1, 2021, 4:10 AM

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also never use idevicerestore on windows

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 4:11 AM

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I am getting this error when it is downloading baseband ERROR: tss_send_request: Unhandled status code 162

lofty ginkgo Jun 1, 2021, 4:11 AM

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That way if it does end up failing you can see what happened/where it failed which could be of some help, instead of a random error code

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 4:12 AM

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TSS server returned: STATUS=162&MESSAGE=An internal error occurred.

outer junco Jun 1, 2021, 4:13 AM

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toxic lotus idevicerestore ofc

im trying but i cant seem to get openssl installed properly

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did brew install openssl and it worked

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but autogen still says missing

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is there a place to download a compiled version

rich shell Jun 1, 2021, 4:26 AM

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i have blobs saved for 14.4, how would i go from 13.3 to 14.4? would i need to update normally to 14.6 and then go to 14.4 with blobs?

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really?

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i am on a12

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i am waiting for the webkit jailbreak

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and i have no other blobs

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i already saved blobs for 14.5.1

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is there a way to update with blobs without restoring

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yeah ok then

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 4:36 AM

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Hey man I am upgrading to 14.4 from 14.2 using future restore but it’s giving me this error TSS server returned: STATUS=162&MESSAGE=An internal error occurred.

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 4:48 AM

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celest basalt Hey man I am upgrading to 14.4 from 14.2 using future restore but it’s giving me...

Check your network connection

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Also what futurerestore version

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 4:52 AM

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I’m on v194 and network is good

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 4:52 AM

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Lol googling futurerestore first result is tihm

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 4:52 AM

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Yes I’m on iPhone 12

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 4:53 AM

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@celest basalt A14 doesn’t work rn

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 4:53 AM

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Ah fuck well thanks

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I know jailbreaking just isn’t really for me and I want to be able to play nvidia gforce now

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But I did wanna be able to try that WebKit jb so yeah

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 4:54 AM

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@celest basalt Mac or Windows?

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 4:54 AM

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Mac

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 4:54 AM

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Try the futurerestore in pins

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 4:55 AM

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Wdym?

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 4:55 AM

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v204

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the futurerestore in the pins

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#futurerestore-help message

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ripbozo

vivid nova Jun 1, 2021, 4:57 AM

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what generator do you set when there's no generator?

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actually.. yes. Given the apnonce is saved and the device is set on that nonce

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 5:01 AM

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vivid nova actually.. yes. Given the apnonce is saved and the device is set on that nonce

unless you restored/updated

vivid nova Jun 1, 2021, 5:01 AM

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indeed, hopefully the user(s) didn't

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I don't think succession resets it...

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 5:02 AM

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it shouldn’t

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doesn’t really touch nvram

vivid nova Jun 1, 2021, 5:02 AM

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then in that case.. my point above is still valid

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 5:03 AM

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could’ve at least explained the apnonce error but eh

vivid nova Jun 1, 2021, 5:03 AM

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I didn't want to make it a 5-minute read

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just keep it simple

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 5:03 AM

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theres a difference between keeping it simple and omitting inportant info

vivid nova Jun 1, 2021, 5:04 AM

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there's also a difference between getting to the point and elaborating on every "what do you mean.."

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 5:04 AM

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wdym

vivid nova Jun 1, 2021, 5:04 AM

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zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 5:05 AM

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TrollFront

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Pretty random

vivid nova Jun 1, 2021, 5:05 AM

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i've never used an apnonce blob

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generators always worked

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 5:05 AM

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uh

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wot

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you realise a blob isn’t valid without an apnonxe

vivid nova Jun 1, 2021, 5:06 AM

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indeed

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there's two kinds

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 5:06 AM

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noapnonce blobs have an apnonce lol

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they’re just stupidly named

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because noapnonce is almost always 0x1111….

vivid nova Jun 1, 2021, 5:07 AM

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and funny enough.. ATV refuses to use the apnonce ones

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it /needs/ the generator

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 5:07 AM

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The generator list for the apnonce blobs is in the pins

vivid nova Jun 1, 2021, 5:08 AM

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DontCare

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 5:08 AM

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btw conan recently nuked noapnonce blobs so you’re stuck

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ofc

vivid nova Jun 1, 2021, 5:11 AM

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zealous bridge btw conan recently nuked noapnonce blobs so you’re stuck

meh, i just do onboard

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 5:11 AM

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True

vivid nova Jun 1, 2021, 5:16 AM

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yes

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I've made a tweak that saves them

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have yet to update it...

full osprey Jun 1, 2021, 9:17 AM

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No, that’s for Aaron

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I could actually but that question is more for Aaron

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Or Eric

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:04 AM

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@zealous bridge question nonce stayed the same after restore from recovery mode even in iTunes right

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:05 AM

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yes if it was in nvram before

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:07 AM

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zealous bridge yes if it was in nvram before

Have you tried dfu

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:07 AM

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No

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:08 AM

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Lol gonna try dfu on my A12 rn guys

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/a

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:08 AM

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.

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:08 AM

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Wait why can’t FutureRestore work from DFU

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:09 AM

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DFU nonce is different to normal nonce

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(The normal nonce is what we save APTickets for)

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:09 AM

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For real?

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It just ignores generator or what

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:09 AM

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Don’t believe me try irecovery -q

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in recovery + DFU

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Oh ok will do

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Will it reset generator

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Test it

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You won’t update anyway

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Ok

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Recovery won’t

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DFU not tested but i’m sure it won’t

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Wen eta DFU nonce setter

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That’d be something for Cryptic to reverse engineer

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Don’t believe anyone’s looked at it before

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At least not on modern devices

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 11:13 AM

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"DFU nonce setters" just kick you into recovery so yeah

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:14 AM

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Yeah it’s not really the “DFU nonce”

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 11:14 AM

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actually I think checkm8-nonce-setter doesn't even modify the normal apnonce, it just boots up a patched iBEC/iBSS with changed nonce

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because IIRC if I reboot after checkm8-nonce-setter the nonce resets

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:15 AM

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it loads a ibss without the generator blacklist in nvram

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so we can just setenv

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pwndfu exists

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Hopefully someone updates pwndfu with checkra1n’s implementation of checkm8 so it becomes much more reliable

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they are very different

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axi0mx’s implementation is so old and finnicky

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checkra1n team improved it a lot but it’s closed source lol

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:20 AM

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zealous bridge it loads a ibss without the generator blacklist in nvram

It’s a blacklist??

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:21 AM

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yeah theres like 4 nvram variables blacklisted from recovery mode

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boot-nonce being one of them

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:22 AM

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On VMWare I had to set sip nvram variable, but misspelled by 1 letter and then edit it in some weird mode to make it right

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:23 AM

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Oh it’s a whitelist

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Lmfao

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yeah how would only 4 variables be blacklisted

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👏

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lol wot

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:23 AM

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zealous bridge Oh it’s a whitelist

Aww

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What are the 4 then

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Auto boot is 1 right

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:24 AM

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Yes

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Bootdelay is another

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:24 AM

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Breadcrumbs or something as well right

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:24 AM

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need to look on iboot

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yes

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:24 AM

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iboot wouldn’t tell me

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:24 AM

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and probably backlight

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:24 AM

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Printenv doesn’t work

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:25 AM

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breadcrumbs, backlight, auto-boot and boot-nonce

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info about what’s happening in the bootloader

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normally thats what it means

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:27 AM

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zealous bridge breadcrumbs, backlight, auto-boot and boot-nonce

Boot nonce isn’t whitelisted tho

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 11:27 AM

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well, the thing is

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:27 AM

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oh yeah

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i mean

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boot-breadcrumbs, backlight-nits, auto-boot and backlight-level

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 11:28 AM

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I 100% remember updating my XR via an IPSW to the same version and it definitely cleared my generator

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but that generator was set by requesting apnonce in normal mode

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idk if that makes any difference

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:28 AM

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lol we need nvram unlocked to know for sure

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:28 AM

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Yeah tb said it only happened in recovery

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:28 AM

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Ofc

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Normal mode would overwrite

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 11:29 AM

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the way I know it cleared my generator is I ran noncestatistics in recovery before and after - before it was generating a constant nonce, after it was random on every reboot

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:30 AM

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we need someone to test dimentio then recovery mode restore

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It makes sense for the apnonce requested in normal mode to be cleared after a restore, the way apple implemented it however shit it is it’s meant to be cleared after a restore

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:37 AM

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@green onyx do you have an A12+ device on latest you can just restore to latest to test something

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or an A12+ you can FutureRestore with

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:39 AM

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He finally stopped going thru time

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(uwu)

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:40 AM

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YAY

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lol

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:40 AM

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A12+?

green onyx Jun 1, 2021, 11:41 AM

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lilac wren <@!489890032635871232> do you have an A12+ device on latest you can just restore...

nope

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:41 AM

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if you can get him ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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oh yeah

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:42 AM

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yay

green onyx Jun 1, 2021, 11:42 AM

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whats happening

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why do u need a latest guy

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:42 AM

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Yeah, if you have 14.3 blobs (and this works) you can go back

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Who said anything about latest

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I just said recovery mode restore

green onyx Jun 1, 2021, 11:44 AM

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guys

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actually

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someone fill me in

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why do u need a latest guy

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ah

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:45 AM

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green onyx why do u need a latest guy

okie so restores from recovery on A11- don't reset your nonce, even iTunes restores, so we wanna test that with A12+

green onyx Jun 1, 2021, 11:46 AM

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ah

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ok

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thank you for informing me

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:46 AM

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but we don't want to FutureRestore bc that's risky for no reason

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wait

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:46 AM

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wot

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:46 AM

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we could use getnonce to set generator nvm this will work

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:46 AM

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Nyu said it didnt

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Like 5 minutes ago

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:46 AM

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nyu did from normal mode they said

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:46 AM

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ok

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?

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what does getnonce do

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:47 AM

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you just said it didnt work from normal mode lol

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:47 AM

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zealous bridge what does getnonce do

sets generator on latest

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:47 AM

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no it doesnt, it freezes nonce by requesting one from normal mode

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literally all itunes restores use getnonce, but without grabbing the generator

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:47 AM

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yeah by setting random generator

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lol

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:48 AM

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no lol, it doesn’t set anything

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:48 AM

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it does and even returns the generator it set

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in mobilegestalt

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:48 AM

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the boot-nonce is never set directly

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lol he’s having a moment

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:48 AM

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zealous bridge the boot-nonce is never set directly

yeah the phone sets it randomly

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:49 AM

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ok so how does getnonce set it

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:49 AM

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like OTA

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OTA sets a random generator

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:49 AM

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all it does is idevicediagnostics mobilegestalt ApNonce from normal mode

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which requests a random apnonxe

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which is exactly what happens in every restore from normal mode

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:49 AM

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and sets a random generator at the same time

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guys is this not how it works

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@celest basalt

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please lol

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I'm like 90% sure that it sets a random generator

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otherwise how would nonce stay the same after reboots

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:50 AM

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the nonce is frozen

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That’s why

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:50 AM

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zealous bridge the nonce is frozen

???

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there's no 'frozen' nonce as far as I'm aware

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 11:50 AM

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what

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:50 AM

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celest basalt what

getnonce sets a random generator right

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:50 AM

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froggy’s having a moment understanding getnonce lol

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:51 AM

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when you request apnonce in normal mode

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it sets a random generator

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 11:51 AM

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yes, if you request an apnonce in normal mode, it sets a random generator in nvram

if you request it again in normal mode without rebooting, it won't change the apnonce/generator, but if you do it again after a reboot it will

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:51 AM

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LOL

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guys

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see

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🧠

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#futurerestore-help message

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:51 AM

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celest basalt yes, if you request an apnonce in normal mode, it sets a random generator in nvr...

thats what i said

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but

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 11:51 AM

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how would getnonce get a generator if there was no generator

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:52 AM

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nvram is never directly touched lol

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:52 AM

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zealous bridge thats what i said

you said it "freezes" nonce... I said it sets a random generator

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:52 AM

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dimentio does

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:52 AM

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it sets a random generator in nvram

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:52 AM

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lilac wren you said it "freezes" nonce... I said it sets a random generator

it does freeze nonce

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:52 AM

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zealous bridge it does freeze nonce

bro what are you even defending lol

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 11:52 AM

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well yeah, of course the OS handles the "set random generator" part and you can't control what the value will be but...

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:52 AM

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Nyu just proved exactly what I said lol

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yeah

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 11:52 AM

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it does have an effect of freezing the nonce but that's because of the generator

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:52 AM

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^^

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like I said, there's no "freezing" nonce just setting a generator

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Lol

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oh lol

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Thanks nyu

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guys you're being like JTV, confidently incorrect lol

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:54 AM

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lilac wren like I said, there's no "freezing" nonce just setting a generator

lol ok, explain why on A11- directly setting the nonce in nvram keeps the same nonce after restore works, but requesting one from normal mode resets it

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lmao

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there’s a difference which is proven

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that’s my point lol

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:54 AM

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zealous bridge lol ok, explain why on A11- directly setting the nonce in nvram keeps the same n...

requesting one from normal mode isn't the issue, restoring from normal mode is

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and that's besides the point lol

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:54 AM

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lilac wren requesting one from normal mode isn't the issue, restoring from normal mode is

restoring from normal mode = requesting apnonce from normal mode

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lol

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:55 AM

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says the guy saying 'froggy see a doctor' lol

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:55 AM

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zealous bridge restoring from normal mode = requesting apnonce from normal mode

you can request a nonce from normal mode and still restore from recovery...

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 11:55 AM

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requesting one from normal mode resets it
that's because the normal mode request overwrites the existing generator

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:55 AM

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guys I gotta do my theology final let's talk later

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:55 AM

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celest basalt > requesting one from normal mode resets it that's because the normal mode reque...

after the restore

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:55 AM

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celest basalt > requesting one from normal mode resets it that's because the normal mode reque...

I think he meant resets it after the restore

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like the weird apple oversight thing in iOS 14

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:56 AM

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yeah

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 11:56 AM

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another interesting thing I just found: requesting apnonce in normal mode overwrites dimentio generator but not the generator that was set by requesting apnonce during the same boot

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:56 AM

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lilac wren you can request a nonce from normal mode and still restore from recovery...

no i meant when you’re restoring from normal mode it requests an apnonce from normal mode

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which means its the same as getnonce

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requesting an apnonce from normal mode

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forget generator for now

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 11:56 AM

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sudo dimentio 0x1111111111111111 -> 27325C8258BE46E69D9EE57FA9A8FBC28B873DF434E5E702A8B27999551138AE
ideviceinfo -k ApNonce -> 47b4ecb8a1a7b2a413ac6e8c9a257256687b6d13f71024acb3f136f39a8d733f
ideviceinfo -k ApNonce -> 47b4ecb8a1a7b2a413ac6e8c9a257256687b6d13f71024acb3f136f39a8d733f
reboot
ideviceinfo -k ApNonce ->
f8b983c53bbb1a748f6efe536c06934b857394fff9bc69a1f054d651f125123d
ideviceinfo -k ApNonce -> f8b983c53bbb1a748f6efe536c06934b857394fff9bc69a1f054d651f125123d

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:57 AM

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lol

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well it’s probably because iTunes requests it multiple times during the same boot

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so it can’t change

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otherwise restore is invalid

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:58 AM

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celest basalt * `sudo dimentio 0x1111111111111111` -> `27325C8258BE46E69D9EE57FA9A8FBC28B873DF...

yeah but it doesn't seem to actually set it to that random ap nonce if you run dimentio again with no args

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it's weird

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 11:58 AM

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wait

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I fucked it up

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there

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it probably checks "was apnonce already requested" rather than "is generator set" before overwriting

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:59 AM

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lol this whole time i was trying to say that maybe dimentio isn’t the same as requesting apnonce from normal mode

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 11:59 AM

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celest basalt it probably checks "was apnonce already requested" rather than "is generator set...

if you do dimentio 0x1111 again it will let you request apnonce again

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 11:59 AM

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which would be tested by the restore

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soo

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 12:00 PM

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lilac wren if you do dimentio 0x1111 again it will let you request apnonce again

but again it doesn't seem like it's actually doing anything if you run dimentio no args

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it was already set to 0x111 supposedly

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 12:00 PM

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yeah reading out what’s in nvram probably isn’t gonna affect anything

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 12:01 PM

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zealous bridge yeah reading out what’s in nvram probably isn’t gonna affect anything

let me rephrase lol

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but again, it doesn't seem like it's actually doing; this can be proven by running dimentio no args, the output stays the same

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 12:01 PM

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you can use nvram -p instead of dimentio if you don't trust it

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on checkra1n at least

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not on u0/Taurine iOS 14

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 12:02 PM

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ah at the time of testing I couldn't bc A12

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 12:02 PM

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not on A12+ TrollFront

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 12:02 PM

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makes no difference though

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 12:02 PM

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dimentio probably uses nvram directly

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 12:02 PM

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celest basalt makes no difference though

then where is that random ap nonce coming from though

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 12:02 PM

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if it can

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otherwise it does that whole KPAC bypass

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 12:02 PM

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ok now this is funny

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looks like requesting apnonce in normal mode won't touch the actual generator at all if it was already set during the current boot

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 12:03 PM

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yeah that's what I said

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 12:03 PM

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ideviceinfo and dimentio now disagree on what the nonce is

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 12:03 PM

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nvram is probably right

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 12:03 PM

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lilac wren but again it doesn't seem like it's actually doing anything if you run dimentio ...

^

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 12:03 PM

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❯ ideviceinfo -k ApNonce | base64 -d | xxd -p -c256
6368d701c4cc189430ea6804ef916293cd8c4186996e3b0eb4477236c743bbb9

iPhone-X:~ mobile% dimentio
nvram_entry: 0x1307
Current nonce is 0x1111111111111111
nonce_d: 27325C8258BE46E69D9EE57FA9A8FBC28B873DF434E5E702A8B27999551138AE

iPhone-X:~ mobile% nvram -p
boot-args
auto-boot       true
com.apple.System.boot-nonce     0x1111111111111111
[...]

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 12:04 PM

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ideviceinfo seemed to be just spewing a random nonce

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but the question is

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 12:04 PM

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I think lockdownd just caches the apnonce value after the first request on each boot

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 12:04 PM

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what triggers with dimentio when you do 0x1111 again that allows apnonce key to be triggered again

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 12:05 PM

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lilac wren what triggers with dimentio when you do 0x1111 again that allows apnonce key to ...

I requested apnonce first and got 6368..., then dimentio, then requested apnonce again and got the same 6368...

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 12:05 PM

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yeah it’s not like there’s any “generator_set” variable

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 12:05 PM

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so it doesn't really trigger anything again

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it just doesn't check the nvram after the first request

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 12:05 PM

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doesn’t that mean that apple know when the generator is set

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 12:05 PM

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and uses the cached value

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 12:05 PM

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meaning getnonce was on purpose

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 12:05 PM

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celest basalt I requested apnonce first and got `6368...`, then dimentio, then requested apnon...

are you sure? when I tested, I could do request apnonce, dimentio 0x1111, request apnonce and it would be different every time

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i was planning on spamming that thousands of times to see if collision exists lol

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 12:06 PM

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you can't spam it in normal mode to collide

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 12:06 PM

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Collision only worked because the device tended to generate different apnonces more than others

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 12:06 PM

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celest basalt you can't spam it in normal mode to collide

I did though

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i mean not to collide

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spam apnonce

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 12:06 PM

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well, what you're saying doesn't work for me

lilac wren Jun 1, 2021, 12:06 PM

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idk why

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ill try later today

celest basalt Jun 1, 2021, 12:06 PM

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normally the only way to collide is to clear generator and keep rebooting in recovery

zealous bridge Jun 1, 2021, 12:07 PM

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lemme try that