futurerestore-help

[low summit]

Or is it already jb?

[zinc moon]

Hell no

I don’t know if it’ll be already jailbrokeb

When I go to 13

12

But probably not

[low summit]

Bro u gonna have to reboot like 20 times

[zinc moon]

I remember coolbooter used to do that for iOS 6 lol

[low summit]

Tethered everytime

[zinc moon]

What if I make it untethered

Using OTA

[low summit]

Then u don't have to maybe

Froggy said u still need the software

[zinc moon]

Is there a way

To

Check

If a blob

Is valid or can be used

[low summit]

Ask cryptic to look it over

[zinc moon]

Bros offline

[low summit]

Well get the blob first

We not even sure if we could even go to 14.3

[zinc moon]

I will

[zinc moon]

What could stop us

WAIT

[low summit]

Verify lol

[zinc moon]

What SEP would this have

[low summit]

Latest if I'm not mistaken

[zinc moon]

[low summit]

Or ios 12 sep

[zinc moon]

How would latest SEP

Even work

On iOS 12

[low summit]

Idk just try it

[zinc moon]

Almost down

[low summit]

If u don't get verify then ur good

[zinc moon]

done

Unzipping

[low summit]

If u could even do that

[zinc moon]

Isn’t that an instant “wouldn’t work at all”

[low summit]

Tether downgrade

And then ota

[zinc moon]

I’m going to downgrade to iOS 12

Tethered

[low summit]

Can you preserve sep?

When going up?

[zinc moon]

Prepare for restore!

Button

Is there

[low summit]

Ur 7 is so fked up

Why

[zinc moon]

Yes that’s 32

@low summit the display?

[low summit]

Bb is a big problem lol

Sep is compatible usually

But bb isn't

Like 13.7 lol

[zinc moon]

I’m gonna charge it to 70 first

[low summit]

Do it

[zinc moon]

It’s on 20 rn

[low summit]

Just charge it while restoring lol

Tf

[zinc moon]

Alright

I’ll do that

[low summit]

I hope ur 8 doesn't crack like that

[zinc moon]

I got the high end charger

Let’s do this

It’s 1/4 done

Now 3/4

[low summit]

Should be quick

[zinc moon]

It is

I’m hungry as fuck man

[low summit]

GG

[zinc moon]

Off topic but

Funniest video

I’ve watched this week

[lilac wren]

oh no

[lilac wren]

is that real lol

[zinc moon]

Yes

They played the kid lmfaoo

[lilac wren]

woww

[zinc moon]

Shits funny

ngl

[low summit]

I didn't laugh

Oh well

[zinc moon]

Rebuilding icon cache is taking some time

It’s been on that for 10 minutes

Is that normal @lilac wren

[lilac wren]

lol uicache be slow

[zinc moon]

[lilac wren]

probably not

[zinc moon]

I’ll just wait

Oh

What should I do then

This is a clean iPhone 7

[lilac wren]

I'd just wait tbh

[zinc moon]

No apps from the AppStore

I’ll have to go shower

I’ll come back and see

[zinc moon]

Just finished showering

@lilac wren right before I went to shower I think it said to reboot the device

It seems like it’s looping

[lilac wren]

bootlooping?

[zinc moon]

I tried to reboot it and

Every time

Yes

[lilac wren]

then try ramiel

it might have worked

[zinc moon]

I’m not clicking on anything btw

[lilac wren]

that's fine it might have just worked

[green onyx]

tf is happening with ur phone lol

@zinc moon

[lilac wren]

tethered downgrade

[green onyx]

divise?

[lilac wren]

yes

[zinc moon]

I’m back so

[green onyx]

did ur phone die?

[zinc moon]

No lol

[green onyx]

kinda looks like its dying lmao

or its going through a lot lol

[zinc moon]

@lilac wren the laptop rn is infront of my dad

[green onyx]

rip

[zinc moon]

Divise told me to reboot

[green onyx]

hm

[lilac wren]

ok you won't be able to boot without ramiel so

[zinc moon]

I tried to go inside apps

But

They’d crash

So I think divise did it it’s job

Correctly

[lilac wren]

yeah bc they probably don't exist

yes

[green onyx]

tether reboot it

[zinc moon]

I’ll just wait till my dad goes to the kitchen

[green onyx]

nice

lol

damn

[zinc moon]

@lilac wren does the device lose battery

[lilac wren]

yes

[zinc moon]

shit

[green onyx]

i never knew adam and cam had the same birthday

[lilac wren]

put it in dfu

[zinc moon]

ok

I need to connect it

To a pc

To get into DFU

[lilac wren]

no

you just use the phone's buttons

lol

[zinc moon]

Oh fr

Lemme try

[lilac wren]

oh wait i see what you mean

yes it does need to be plugged into a computer, thought you meant you needed ramiel or checkra1n to do it

[zinc moon]

I’m just gonna put it on the charger

Can I put it into recovery

[lilac wren]

some apple community says you can do dfu while it's on the charger

try that

[zinc moon]

Wait

Fr

Lemme see

[low summit]

What stage u at

[zinc moon]

I do not think that dfu looks like this

[lilac wren]

that's recovery mode

Press and hold the sleep/wake and volume-down buttons at the same time.
Count 10 seconds.
Release the sleep/wake button, but keep holding the volume-down button.

[zinc moon]

That’s what I did

What if I use Rameil while it’s in recovery

[lilac wren]

no

[zinc moon]

Would it boot up

[lilac wren]

bootrom is dfu

[zinc moon]

Oh right checkra1n and ramiel don’t like recovery mode

[lilac wren]

do less than 10 seconds then

[zinc moon]

Ok

[lilac wren]

try 7 seconds

[zinc moon]

I’ll return it to the boot loop

[lilac wren]

if 7 seconds takes you to recovery as well, then just let go of power button as soon as the screen turns black

[zinc moon]

And rhe volume down button?

[lilac wren]

Keep holding

[zinc moon]

Doesn’t work

Can’t Ramiel use it

In the boot loop

I secretly took the laptop

@lilac wren

Let’s try this now

[lilac wren]

Lol ok

Same steps for dfu

[zinc moon]

It worked

Now what

[lilac wren]

What does it say on ramiel

[zinc moon]

Lemme download that

[lilac wren]

Ok

[low summit]

Did you jb?

[zinc moon]

It failed to download

A lot of stuff

Ipwndfu, img4tool, fugu

[lilac wren]

Lol bad wifi

Worked for me

You did drag into applications folder right

[zinc moon]

My wife is good

Wait a dev

Yes I did

It seems like it worked now nvm

[lilac wren]

Wow married young I see

[zinc moon]

wifi*

Whenever it downloads paramiko it becomes non responsive

Ok it works now

I’ll click boot device

[lilac wren]

Ok

[zinc moon]

Keeps failing

[lilac wren]

Try again

[zinc moon]

3 times it failed

[lilac wren]

Oh

Try like 5 more times though

[zinc moon]

Alright

[lilac wren]

Is this an m1 mac

[zinc moon]

No

I’ll re enter dfu

[lilac wren]

Ramiel will also not work on any pre-2012 macbooks/pros.

This Either?

[zinc moon]

It’s from 2017

[lilac wren]

Ok then you're good

[zinc moon]

Should I click dual dualbooted OS

Even tho it’s not a dualboot

[lilac wren]

No probably not

You should try skip ipsw verification maybe

[zinc moon]

Ok

Still

Failed

[lilac wren]

Hm

https://github.com/MatthewPierson/Ramiel/issues/19

[zinc moon]

Oh

I’ll keep trying

[lilac wren]

Yeah

[zinc moon]

Should I turn off

Skip IPSW

Verification

[lilac wren]

Yes I'd turn it off, also try to enable logs or debug or something to see where it goes wrong

[zinc moon]

Alright

Seems like I need to put it in pwned

@lilac wren

[low summit]

lol u need pwndfu too?

then put it into pwndfu

[zinc moon]

tried in terminal and ramiel

didnt work

[lilac wren]

Back

Um lemme see

[lilac wren]

Follow the setup prompts and allow Ramiel to download some tools
Connect a checkm8-compatible device in DFU mode
Have fun!

[zinc moon]

i did let it download

[lilac wren]

I think it'll pwndfu it for you

[zinc moon]

yea

thats whats not working

if i just get it in pwndfu dfu

itll work

[lilac wren]

no I think it does it for you

where are logs stored

mine worked by just clicking boot

it said "not in pwndfu, enter it now" and the button said "run checkm8" and it did it for me

now I'm in pwndfu

[zinc moon]

yes

and thats whats failing

[lilac wren]

ok so the exploit is just failing

try a different port / cable maybe if you have one?

[zinc moon]

I will

I’m gonna go eat now tho

[lilac wren]

ok

[zinc moon]

same shit

sigh

[lilac wren]

does checkra1n work on this device

[zinc moon]

tried it on terminal

normally yes

look at the pic

[lilac wren]

is this pyboot

[zinc moon]

no

ipwndfu

[lilac wren]

try pyboot if you want

[zinc moon]

downloaded pyboot

how do i use it

[lilac wren]

look under usage

[zinc moon]

ok

i need to cd first

[lilac wren]

lol

[zinc moon]

I GOT THE ERROR

[lilac wren]

lol same one?

[zinc moon]

access denied

[lilac wren]

send log

[zinc moon]

i tried to pwn using pyboot

[lilac wren]

run with sudo maybe lol

[zinc moon]

im back

sorry had to go eat

[lilac wren]

nice

nw

[zealous bridge]

whats going on

hello

[low summit]

tether downgrade

[zealous bridge]

with succession?

or divise

[low summit]

latter

[zinc moon]

divise

[zealous bridge]

oh cool

why

[low summit]

get ota blobs

for 14.3

[zinc moon]

THE DEVICE HAS NO LANG ID

LETS GOO

I CAN FIX THIS

[lilac wren]

does that mean it worked

[zinc moon]

no

[low summit]

no

[zinc moon]

last time i had this

i simply rebooted

and voila

@lilac wren should i keep ios tools open

while i do this

[lilac wren]

what is ios tools

[zealous bridge]

uhh

[zinc moon]

https://github.com/marijuanARM/ios-tools

[zealous bridge]

why are you using that

if ur not futurerestoring

[zinc moon]

last time i used it

[low summit]

pwndfu

[zinc moon]

lemme try w/o it

[zealous bridge]

yeah only for fr

you need that

[low summit]

the tethered downgrade needs pwndfu lol

[zealous bridge]

yeah pwndfu not fr

[zinc moon]

right but not for going into pwndfu

im gonna try again

[zealous bridge]

also

[low summit]

then whats he doing

[zealous bridge]

whats the point of getting ota anyway

i thought pwndfu fr was still broken

[low summit]

hes trying to ota update to 14.3

[lilac wren]

well it'd still be cool to downgrade to 14.3

[low summit]

via tethered ios

[zinc moon]

It’s not an FR

lol

[zealous bridge]

oh

[zinc moon]

It’s a tether downgrade

[low summit]

idk ota blobs might be useful later

[zealous bridge]

well if you want ota you still have to pwn sep somehow

[zinc moon]

Also I ruined one of the laptops USB port

Nan

Man

Im scared

[low summit]

so it still wont let u

[zealous bridge]

yeah

[low summit]

even if u have a lower ios

[lilac wren]

is sep not downgraded with divise

[zealous bridge]

you cant even get blobs

[zealous bridge]

no

[low summit]

then we did it for no reason lol

[zealous bridge]

because it fails at preparing/ verifying

if it fails at verifying then your bcert is gonna be invalid

so blobs are useless

[lilac wren]

ok then can we just itunes flash an unsigned firmware + sep

and then go to 14.3

[zealous bridge]

how would you itunes flash unsigned firmware...

[lilac wren]

how does divise do it

[low summit]

froggy the big brain

[zealous bridge]

checkm8

[lilac wren]

divise is an on device app...

[low summit]

so what sep does tethered ios use

the one u already have?

[zealous bridge]

it requires checkm8 idk what to tell you

you cant do it on non checkm8 devices

[lilac wren]

yeah bc you can't boot it

[low summit]

so u need pwndfu

aka checkm8

[zealous bridge]

^

[lilac wren]

yeah but divise isn't in pwndfu when it flashes the firmware

[zealous bridge]

u need smth like pyboot or ramiel to boot it

[zinc moon]

fugu permission denied

ok

[low summit]

bruh whys ur 7 always have errors doing anything

[zealous bridge]

yeah but you still need to patch iboot while booting

[lilac wren]

so my question remains, let me rephrase, can we dfu flash an unsigned firmware + sep

[low summit]

tethered i think so

[zealous bridge]

flash meaning untethered? no

tethered yes

but only the software

[lilac wren]

ok what tool

[zealous bridge]

no sep

[zinc moon]

and thats what im doing

[zealous bridge]

sep is probably signature patched

so iboot doesnt check it

[lilac wren]

so how can we flash iOS 10 and it works if SEP isn't downgraded

[low summit]

if u have no sep then u cant ota update

[zinc moon]

fugu permission denied what the fuck

[zealous bridge]

divise has its limits lol

sep has to be compat

with latest

[low summit]

oh

[lilac wren]

oh for real

[zealous bridge]

just like fr

[low summit]

no wonder

[zealous bridge]

yeah lol

[lilac wren]

@zinc moon what version did you restore to

[zealous bridge]

how else would it work

[low summit]

he cant load 12

[zinc moon]

i put 12.0

[zealous bridge]

and isnt divise a dual booter?

[lilac wren]

both

[low summit]

@zinc moon please use 14.2 lol

[zealous bridge]

ah

[zinc moon]

i used tether downgrade instead

[low summit]

why u using 12

[lilac wren]

yeah try 14.2

dfu restore

[zinc moon]

if i can even boot the phone

lemme restore it

[low summit]

can u make a tethered ios ur only os?

[lilac wren]

yes

that's what he did

[low summit]

oh wtf

[zinc moon]

and if it doesnt work

the phone bootloops

[low summit]

of course he cant boot then

sep not compatible

[zinc moon]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-oh-oh-snap-shocked-amazed-gif-5534481

[zealous bridge]

yeah sep panic loops

[zinc moon]

im gonna restore it back

[low summit]

is there no tools with checkm8 that can downgrade sep?

[zinc moon]

shits slow im gonna use ipsw.me instead

[low summit]

2 min download lol

[zealous bridge]

no, checkm8 isnt a sep exploit

[low summit]

so u need a sep exploit to mess with sep

[zealous bridge]

it’s possible to downgrade sep with blackbird but you need to use an exploit with it

[zinc moon]

when im in my room it becomes

2mb/s

[lilac wren]

is blackbird public

[low summit]

isnt it in checkra1n?

[zealous bridge]

it’s in pongoOS afaik

but only A10 exploit

[low summit]

how did checkra1n fix sep for a10 on 14?

[zealous bridge]

pongoOS is open source

[zealous bridge]

sep exploit

[zealous bridge]

the vuln is

exploit is in pongo for a10

[zinc moon]

then why cant it be used

wtf

[low summit]

is that not useable for downgrading sep?

[zinc moon]

[zealous bridge]

idk its very advanced since you have to make your own exploit

unless you can somehow boot pongo

[low summit]

this is actually interesting stuff lol

[zinc moon]

and no ones motivated enough to do that

@low summit fr

[low summit]

if they get paid then they would be more motivated

[zealous bridge]

https://github.com/checkra1n/pongoOS

[low summit]

but they dont lol

[zinc moon]

yo??

[low summit]

Blobs have nothing to do with sep correct?

[zinc moon]

could i set a custom bl

[low summit]

It's just matter of can you ota to 14.3

[zinc moon]

which i cant

no matter how hard

i try

[low summit]

The day u succeed is the day 14.4 jb comes out

[zinc moon]

@zealous bridge tanbeer

is there a single instanc

other than bricking

[celest basalt]

me still waiting for pwndfu fix

[zinc moon]

where itunes restore

cant work

[celest basalt]

the difference is I literally have valid 14.3 OTA blobs

[zinc moon]

for fr?

[zealous bridge]

no

[celest basalt]

it's just broken

[celest basalt]

yes

[zealous bridge]

DFU will always be available

[low summit]

Even with ota blobs it's still broken

[zealous bridge]

@celest basalt pwndfu or FDR?

[low summit]

It's sad

[zinc moon]

then why does bricking stop this

[low summit]

Fdr

[celest basalt]

pwndfu restores are just broken in general

it enters pwndfu but FDR SEP panic with any pwned restore

[low summit]

Fdr is worst than ibec

[zealous bridge]

because the device can’t boot DFU

[celest basalt]

even with 14.4.2 restore blobs

[zealous bridge]

due to whatever reasons

[zinc moon]

and you cant fix that?

[low summit]

So it's not fdr problem it's just pwndfu broken

[zealous bridge]

no

[celest basalt]

Cryptic said supposedly it's just some irecovery issue idk

[zealous bridge]

finder is ass

are you in dfu

[zinc moon]

yes

[low summit]

Why they removed iTunes on mac

[zinc moon]

becuase there was no need for simplicity

[low summit]

Apple mad stupid

[zealous bridge]

ok so ig its not hard

[low summit]

So is there an a11 sep exploit

?

[zinc moon]

gonna use the other usb port

[zealous bridge]

Not an exploit

[low summit]

Be great if we could use sep again on a11 Checkra1n

[zinc moon]

its working

i had to use the other usb port

[lilac wren]

lol

[zinc moon]

WAIT

since the issue was the loose usb

[lilac wren]

did you try that for Ravioli too though

ramiel

[zinc moon]

what if i trend rameil

tried

too late lol

its restoring

[lilac wren]

well

[zinc moon]

@zealous bridge is there a way to recovery bricked iphones

[lilac wren]

DFU

[zealous bridge]

Ravioli

[zinc moon]

@lilac wren but i thought

dfu doesnt work

[lilac wren]

why wouldn't it work

[zealous bridge]

the whole point of bricked means its not fixable

[zinc moon]

on bricked iphones

[zealous bridge]

if its bricked it wont boot DFU

[lilac wren]

if it's bricked ask the apple store to fix the hardware

[zealous bridge]

But thats very hard to do

[zinc moon]

what can brick a phone then

[lilac wren]

slamming it on the ground

or putting it in an oven

[zinc moon]

@lilac wren if its bricked its prob bc of something jailbroken

[zealous bridge]

no

[lilac wren]

then it's not bricked

DFU

[zealous bridge]

literally nothing will brick your iphone

software side

[zinc moon]

so its software

hardware

but how can hardware

restrict

dfu

[zealous bridge]

if the hardware is broken

the phone wont work

lol

[zinc moon]

is dfu both hardware and software relient

[zealous bridge]

dfu is in the soc so it’s hardware reliant

[zinc moon]

so it doesnt change over ios versions?

[zealous bridge]

no

dfu doesnt

[low summit]

dfu is in hardware

[zinc moon]

it can change over iphones then?

[lilac wren]

yes

[zealous bridge]

yeah

[zinc moon]

becuase i dont think the dfu of an iphone 3gs is the same as an 11

[lilac wren]

which is why A12+ can't use checkm8

[zinc moon]

more details?

[low summit]

but i hate dfu on a11 and above

its so annoying

[zealous bridge]

checkm8 uses dfu to run the exploit

dfu didnt change tho, the bootrom did

[zinc moon]

ah

[low summit]

dfu never changes

just the bootrom

[zinc moon]

and pongoos

couldnt do anything

abt it

god loves ,e

[lilac wren]

Checkm8 is an exploit for the bootrom, and the way to have access to "talking" to the bootrom is in DFU mode. Otherwise it just follows the boot chain
Bootrom is the root of the iPhone's boot chain so it has to be static. If you could write to the bootrom then people could easily exploit it or make it super hard to restore devices

[zinc moon]

i KNOW this sounds stupid but

does that mean

i can have

a custom boot logo

[low summit]

no

depends

i know the 3g bootrom lets u have custom boot logo

[zinc moon]

i meant on the 7

cause

thats an option

on ramiel

[lilac wren]

I think there are a couple different boot logos

[low summit]

prob just on the tethered os lol

[lilac wren]

but iBoot is where they are right?

if so, then I think the answer is yes

[zinc moon]

phone just booted

[lilac wren]

but only when booting from pwn'd dfu

[zealous bridge]

yeah ig but i think only when you boot with ramiel

[low summit]

i miss custom bootlogos

who remembers greenpois0n custom logo

[zinc moon]

if i ever get to have a bootlogo

it will be a pic

of ass cheeks

[low summit]

u miss the old days

[zinc moon]

i do

[low summit]

where a jb comes with a custom logo

[zinc moon]

wait

can the untethered pangus

have a custom logo

[low summit]

i think theres a tweak

that allowed logos

[zinc moon]

on 9?

[low summit]

like 4.2.1 and above

because greenpois0n 4.2.1 had a custom logo

and u could change it with a tweak

[zinc moon]

i just downloaded divise

ill tether downgrade

for ios 14.2

or should i put it

on 14.3

@zealous bridge

[zealous bridge]

idk what works

do whatever you want

[lilac wren]

put it on 14.2 so you can ota to 14.3 maybe

[low summit]

14.2 then ota

[zinc moon]

lol

[zealous bridge]

lol yh with what pwned sep

[low summit]

prob gets verify error

[lilac wren]

you can't

[low summit]

but u could still try

[lilac wren]

but that was the reason he wanted to try this

otherwise just dfu to 14.4.2 lol

[low summit]

why do u even want 14.3 ota blobs lol they dont even work rn

[zinc moon]

becuase cryptic is fixing them

[low summit]

he said fixing fdr lol

not pwndfu

[zinc moon]

ok

[low summit]

or is he doing both

[zinc moon]

@shy magnet Happy birthday!

[shy magnet]

thank

[low summit]

nice blue name

happy bday

[shy magnet]

on checkm8 compat devices

its same scenario with 5s and 10.3.3 ota blobs

[zinc moon]

sileo tells me /library/dpkg

is read only

how

[celest basalt]

yeah they're supposed to work for checkm8 devices but pwndfu restores are broken in FR currently

[shy magnet]

no they work fine

[celest basalt]

[shy magnet]

literally pwndfu downgraded my ipod to 11.3.1 the other day

[celest basalt]

any restore from pwndfu causes an FDR SEP panic for me after it enters restore mode

[shy magnet]

its prob some issue with 13.x or 14.x

[celest basalt]

even 14.4.2->14.4.2 with restore blobs fails

non-pwned restores work fine

@shy magnet in case this says anything https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/728061044098072596/831549093901238343/panic-full-2021-04-13-171612.000.ips

panic(cpu 0 caller 0xfffffff02178d434): SEP Panic: :skg \/skgs: 0x000171d1 0x00016a60 0x00016a44 0x00012018 0x00011d3c 0x0001351c 0x0000c038 0x0001615c [hnhth]

oh also happy birthday

[shy magnet]

thank

[low summit]

going back to 11.3.1 what happens to sep?

[zinc moon]

@lilac wren seems like divisé is stuck on finding ipsw

[lilac wren]

ok

[zinc moon]

should i download the ipsw

manually

[lilac wren]

if divisé lets you do it

then sure

[zinc moon]

i think its put in the succession file

nvm theres no succession file

ios 14 versions dont work w divise

@lilac wren can i go to 13.7

[low summit]

i guess

[zinc moon]

does the bb have to be compatible

[low summit]

only sep i believe

[lilac wren]

I assume no

[low summit]

ull just have no cellular

[zinc moon]

can the bb panic

[low summit]

no idea

[zinc moon]

@zealous bridge tanbeer

https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Seputil

is there any use for this

[zealous bridge]

i am aware of what this is

yes bricking your device

[zinc moon]

wdym??

communicating with it can disable dfu?

[zealous bridge]

its something we use to communicate with sep

[zinc moon]

and if i do one oopise?

[lilac wren]

it won't brick it lol

[low summit]

disabling dfu

[zealous bridge]

idk theres some thing with --art ctrslftest that bricks it according to theiphonewiki

[low summit]

that sounds like a good idea

how do u disable dfu

[lilac wren]

it won't brick

[zinc moon]

might aswell delete var

[low summit]

var is better than disabling dfu

[zinc moon]

if you think about it deleting var is safer

[zealous bridge]

looks very cool

[lilac wren]

iphone wiki thinks brick is bootloop lol

[low summit]

at least var u could restore

[zinc moon]

true

[low summit]

disable dfu ur fked

[zinc moon]

its safe to delete if you have a pc

[zealous bridge]

https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Brick they have a whole article on bricking @lilac wren

[zinc moon]

the iphone wiki is a work of art

god put it for us

[low summit]

safe to delete if u backed it up lol

[lilac wren]

none of it actually bricks you except the hardware ones

[low summit]

aka tang

[zinc moon]

true

[low summit]

u know what can brick

putting ipad baseband on new baseband chip 3gs

[zinc moon]

"hard to fix" you can fix shit in the first place?

[zealous bridge]

nah baseband can actually brick

apart from that and hardware nothing much can

[zinc moon]

might aswell climb mount everest

[low summit]

if u put an incompatible bb on another baseband chip u could brick

[lilac wren]

ok well if you have an iPhone 2 don't mess around with baseband

[zinc moon]

Early unlock solutions could result in unusable (but recoverable) phones after installing an iOS update if you didn't take special steps. For people who used redsn0w to install the iPad baseband (06.15.00) on a compatible iPhone 3G or iPhone 3GS so that they could use ultrasn0w to carrier unlock it,

@low summit LOL

[low summit]

yes the ipad baseband lol

that was compatible with ultrasnow

[zinc moon]

Types of bricking that may be hard to fix
Changing MAC address to invalid address
If you change your device's MAC address to something invalid (for example if you're attempting to change your UDID), your internet won't work again until you fix the MAC address (using MobileTerminal or similar). This persists even if you restore -- so you can make this really really hard to fix if you restore and there's no jailbreak available, if the available jailbreaks don't include afc2 and other workarounds aren't working, etc. Here's a JailbreakQA thread about this and another one.

[zealous bridge]

not just iP2 if you flash the wrong one of these its irreversably bricked https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Baseband_Bootloader

[zinc moon]

whyd you even do this

[low summit]

but apple said fk u and put a new baseband chip on the 3gs

[zinc moon]

@zealous bridge does the bb have to be compat w divisé

[zealous bridge]

probably

[zinc moon]

and if it isnt

will i brick this

[zealous bridge]

no

divise doesnt flash the bb

[zinc moon]

ok lets gooo

@zealous bridge what part of the ios system

checks with the apple servers

[zinc moon]

to make sure an ota

is valid

https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/HoodooYabuli_9B3176n

[zealous bridge]

if you read the wiki page you'll see it's for the 3GS and 4 too

[zinc moon]

so if you download this

you could brick your device

[low summit]

if u could somehow flash a ipad bb on iphone thats how u brick

easy

[zinc moon]

can we download internal software

for the right devices

and ios

if we had the ipsw

[low summit]

wym

[zinc moon]

check the link i posted

[zealous bridge]

also this

it has a bootloader

all of them do

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/secb3000f149/web

this is april 2021

[zinc moon]

https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/BasebandStressTests

they have a lot of internal bb apps

https://opensource.apple.com/release/ios-1351.html

apple has a open source

website

[lilac wren]

no way

[zinc moon]

lol no joke

[zealous bridge]

mfw its just webkit

[zinc moon]

https://opensource.apple.com/

[lilac wren]

-_-

[low summit]

lol u wish apple would just upload bb

that make it easy

[zinc moon]

its just "wtf" and "webkit"

[zealous bridge]

and js core

[low summit]

is altstore down again?

anyone confirm

[lilac wren]

imagine using altstore

[zinc moon]

what else

could you use

[lilac wren]

xcode

[low summit]

i want altdaemon tho

i want autosign lol

[zinc moon]

@zealous bridge technically ios isnt one OS right

bc there are other OSes for other stuff used in ios

[lilac wren]

use reprovision

[low summit]

i like the widgets but ur correct repro is better

[zealous bridge]

ios is an os yes

[lilac wren]

lol a 4 app wide widget for 1 app

[zealous bridge]

but it relies on some other things too

[zinc moon]

right but not just one

[zealous bridge]

like webkit

[zinc moon]

o

[zealous bridge]

js

they arent os'es tho

[zinc moon]

so theyre like dependencies?

[low summit]

lol u laughing at me?

[zealous bridge]

you cant call ios self-sufficient but you can as an os

[lilac wren]

yes

[zealous bridge]

@lilac wren look at what charles has allowed me to do

[zinc moon]

@zealous bridge and those dependencies are why flashing a cfw

normally doesnt work

[zealous bridge]

no

[zinc moon]

wdym no

[lilac wren]

lol is that like MathXL

[zinc moon]

what else does the os/servers check for

[zealous bridge]

sep and bb

and other fws

[zealous bridge]

its the platform they give hw on lmfao

[zinc moon]

lets say i have everything on my ipsw

except safari

now does the server check

and say

[lilac wren]

none of those bb are signed anymore

[zinc moon]

"uhh, there aint no safari, shall we not boot"?

[zealous bridge]

it checks the signatures of the ipsw

[zealous bridge]

all bbs have bootloaders

[low summit]

3gs bb u could just flash

[zinc moon]

when you boot up the phone?

[zealous bridge]

yes and when you do a restore

[zinc moon]

it does it that fast when you boot up the phone like a restart?

[zealous bridge]

yes

[zinc moon]

and if it finds the signature aint correct?

[low summit]

tanbeer u know how to help with bootloop restore?

[zinc moon]

what does it show

[zealous bridge]

bootloop ig

[low summit]

genius bar lol

[zinc moon]

@low summit lol

[lilac wren]

I don't think you can brick baseband on any modern phone lol

[low summit]

u0 bootloop

[zealous bridge]

iboot will just not verify it

[low summit]

cant even dfu restore

[zinc moon]

lmfaooo

[low summit]

itunes gives error

[zinc moon]

mans done for

whats the error

[low summit]

hes fked at this point

[zealous bridge]

prob not tbh, but i was just showing the ways you couldve bricked

[low summit]

4013

[zinc moon]

@lilac wren

i tried with 13.7

[low summit]

and?

[zinc moon]

i got the same issue

[lilac wren]

ooh

did you change ports

[low summit]

pwn dfu?

[zinc moon]

the issue is with divisé

yes

[lilac wren]

ok well try a compatible sep maybe

[zinc moon]

the sep is compatible

[lilac wren]

oh

[zinc moon]

w 13.7

[lilac wren]

try 14.2 then bc bb?

[zinc moon]

its an issue with divisé

and i know the fix

[lilac wren]

ok

[zinc moon]

ios 14 doesnt work for it

[low summit]

use succession

downgrade

[zinc moon]

lol

how

[low summit]

ughhh froggy

[zinc moon]

ill happily do so

but how

[low summit]

tanbeer knows

[zinc moon]

@zealous bridge big man

how do i downgrade using succession

[lilac wren]

try just getting succession

and then choose 13.7

https://samgisaninja.github.io/test/

@zinc moon

you need the experimental though

[zinc moon]

o

the phone is restoring

[lilac wren]

ok

[celest basalt]

You can do that?!?

[zinc moon]

@celest basalt hey you're missing out

[celest basalt]

What

[zinc moon]

yea a tether downgrade

[lilac wren]

Although divise seems much better

[zinc moon]

eh

its not working

[celest basalt]

Ok so i can go to 14.3 yes?

[zinc moon]

for whatever reason

[lilac wren]

Succession looks like a hacky way to do divise

[zinc moon]

@celest basalt lol yes but no blobs 4u

[lilac wren]

Sure but you need a computer every time to boot up your device if you do it

[celest basalt]

You need blobs?

[lilac wren]

No blobs

[celest basalt]

Well shit

[zinc moon]

you dont however

[celest basalt]

That doesn’t seem very handy

[zinc moon]

you wont need

[celest basalt]

All though

[zinc moon]

wont get*

onboards

[celest basalt]

Could i go to 14.3

[lilac wren]

Yes you can tether 14.3

[celest basalt]

Nvm then

[zinc moon]

tethered yes

[celest basalt]

Well that seems like a fair tradeoff to me

But

Will taurine work

[zinc moon]

yes

[lilac wren]

Yes probably? But since you're booting tethered just use checkra1n

[celest basalt]

Aight sign me up

[lilac wren]

No reason to use taurine

[celest basalt]

I’ll go to ios 13 actually is that possible

[zealous bridge]

no

[celest basalt]

Then i can have sep with checkra1n

Hm

[lilac wren]

Yeah, and when you're in an emergency and your phone kernel panics, you won't be able to turn it on since you won't have a computer. You won't be able to make a call, search the web, etc

If you have checkra1n just do 14.4.2

[celest basalt]

I wont have sep

That’s the issue

[lilac wren]

You won't have sep on tethered 14.3 either

[celest basalt]

Ya but taurine

[zinc moon]

come on man

[zealous bridge]

how would taurine work

[lilac wren]

It still has to boot from pwndfu?

[zealous bridge]

anyway

[shy magnet]

you’ll need to use checkra1n to boot anyways

[celest basalt]

Oh

[shy magnet]

just use odysseyra1n

[celest basalt]

Well shit

[zealous bridge]

since when it reboots its gonna need pwndfu to reboot

[zinc moon]

@celest basalt you need a mac

[zealous bridge]

and it'll mess it up prob

[celest basalt]

Well shit x2

[zinc moon]

you literally cannot do this

[shy magnet]

boot w/o applying any kernel patches via pongo

[lilac wren]

Don't do it

[celest basalt]

Interesting discovery none the less

[shy magnet]

?

[lilac wren]

Tethered downgrade on their main is idiotic

[shy magnet]

oh

yeah

[low summit]

when sanji come in lol

[shy magnet]

it’s stupid

[celest basalt]

Uh what

[low summit]

u trying to tether downgrade?

[celest basalt]

Not anymore

[zinc moon]

@lilac wren i downloaded succession from the repo

now how do i choose

[lilac wren]

Can you choose the version or no

[zinc moon]

no

[lilac wren]

Because if you can't then you'll just have to swap it manually inside /private/var/MobileSoftwareUpdate/mnt1 I think

[zinc moon]

ok

[lilac wren]

Which is why I think divise is better

[zinc moon]

with a dmg i think

[lilac wren]

Also I think you have to rename the root snapshot too?

Let me see

[zinc moon]

no just the dmg lmao

[zinc moon]

oh

[lilac wren]

You can select an ipsw it seems? 3rd tweet

[zinc moon]

ill retry with divisé

[lilac wren]

Lmho

Do 14.2

[zinc moon]

you cant

[low summit]

yes do it

[zinc moon]

it gets stuck

[low summit]

with

[zinc moon]

on finding ipsw

[low summit]

oh

L

[zinc moon]

L

what if i dualboot

[lilac wren]

Can you also select ipsw with divise

Yeah you could try dualboot, not sure if ota will work there though

[zinc moon]

maybe???

but i need to find out

where the ipsws for it

are stored

[low summit]

ota should work

[zinc moon]

is there a way for me to find that

@low summit you sure?

i wont be able to jb the dualbooted os

[lilac wren]

You can download 13.7 if that worked with divise but don't install? Is that a thing

Then find it in filza

[zinc moon]

i tried to

[lilac wren]

Are you sure there's no select ipsw button or anything

[zinc moon]

i found the /applications/divise

nothing

just icons and the storyboard

nope

[lilac wren]

If it's downloaded check /private/var/MobileSoftwareUpdate/mnt1

[zinc moon]

lemme see

[low summit]

someone said they ota with dualboot

from 14.2 to 14.3

[zinc moon]

ill download 13.7

[low summit]

but they had 14.3 sep

[zinc moon]

and check if its there

[lilac wren]

Ok

[zinc moon]

@lilac wren unzipping

<@&430363671722590209>who is this

[lilac wren]

Oh you don't want it to though lol

[zinc moon]

it gave me the location

[low summit]

whos flex?

[lilac wren]

Nice

[zinc moon]

its in successions file lmfaoo

and i cant find it there

[low summit]

?

[lilac wren]

Where did you look

[zinc moon]

in the file it gave me which is

/var/mobile/media/succession/rfs.dmg

[lilac wren]

Oh

[zinc moon]

and i cant find rfs.dmg