futurerestore-help

[lilac wren]

hah nobody helped me

im so smart

[zealous bridge]

before he became genius

[lilac wren]

🤓

[zealous bridge]

shut up you frog

[lilac wren]

:(

[zealous bridge]

/j

[zinc moon]

cryptic is smart

whos the person

in their pfp

[lilac wren]

himself ofc

tbh I just see people as their pfp

so I thought nyu was a girl

[lilac wren]

do you look like your pfp irl

[lilac wren]

Lil Cryptic

[zinc moon]

i am not a chinatown gang manager who's blind, no

[zealous bridge]

lil peep was epic

rip

[zinc moon]

bro looks like a crackhead

[zealous bridge]

@cinder flume helped me

[lilac wren]

Lol

[zinc moon]

oh he died

[zealous bridge]

in my first fr

[zinc moon]

i noticed a trend

people who help you with your first fr

arent that active

[zealous bridge]

cryptic is quite active

so is nyu

[lilac wren]

yeah

[zinc moon]

idk

[zealous bridge]

nyu is rly active lmao

[zinc moon]

ive seen him here

like

4 times

nyu is tbh

[zealous bridge]

snowball was a genius before

she stepped down ig

[lilac wren]

I need to keep talking and be active ig so I can change nickname

[zinc moon]

oh

[zealous bridge]

im so close to mem edition istg

[zinc moon]

what level is that

[zealous bridge]

50

[lilac wren]

ooh yes that'll be so cool

[zealous bridge]

im on 48 and a 1/2

[zinc moon]

wow

we're both professional virgins then

[zealous bridge]

true

waiy what

[zinc moon]

keep it halal bro

[zealous bridge]

im not a virgin

uhh

[zinc moon]

haram

[zealous bridge]

maybe

ur haram stfu

/s

[lilac wren]

didn't you say you were like 17 tb

[zealous bridge]

16

[zinc moon]

United Kingdom moment

[lilac wren]

lol

[zealous bridge]

age of consent is 16 here

[lilac wren]

i love this channel

[zealous bridge]

same

[zinc moon]

same

there are like 7 actives here

and its not dead

[zealous bridge]

just saying ive been here before any of you

[zinc moon]

thats what i like

[zealous bridge]

so stfu noob /s

[zinc moon]

when did you join

[lilac wren]

wow

[zealous bridge]

uhh

[zinc moon]

i joined in june 2018

fascinating times

[zealous bridge]

i meant in this channel

btw

[lilac wren]

I got here like March

[zinc moon]

oh

[zealous bridge]

i joined in June 2020 wtf

[lilac wren]

and already have send almost half of TB's messages in this channel

[zinc moon]

TB?

[lilac wren]

tanbeer

[zealous bridge]

ive only been active for as long as you have

[lilac wren]

how do you have 20k messages here then lol

[zinc moon]

oh

[zealous bridge]

from when i joined to u0 6’s release date i didnt say anything

well hardly anything

[lilac wren]

oh fr?

[zealous bridge]

i was inactive asf

yeah

[zinc moon]

i used to havw 25k messages before my current ones

[zealous bridge]

jailbreaking was dead

[lilac wren]

I spoke once in like u0 5 release

[zinc moon]

but they were all cleared

[zealous bridge]

Wait did i leave the server

[lilac wren]

i was always scared of this discord

[zealous bridge]

Ohhh

No wonder

[zealous bridge]

as you should

[zinc moon]

everyone was so much more hostile

[zealous bridge]

noob

[zinc moon]

back then

[lilac wren]

well #futurerestore-help is cozy

[zinc moon]

its so much friendlier now

[zealous bridge]

true

[lilac wren]

compassion #1

[zealous bridge]

its literally its own server

futurerestore-help

[lilac wren]

haha yeah

[zealous bridge]

name me one channel with a better community than this one

#moderator-backroom

[zinc moon]

im just happy a certain mod isnt spamming our asses with "take it to general"

[zealous bridge]

oops

[lilac wren]

#818879231772983357

[zealous bridge]

didnt mean to put that

[lilac wren]

this lol, there's nobody here so

[zealous bridge]

true

[zinc moon]

and the fact that this channel is perfect without moderation

[zealous bridge]

yeah

[lilac wren]

besides if a mod tells us to go to #general bc someone needs help here

[zealous bridge]

no eta kids

well hardly any

[lilac wren]

who will be here to help them

[zealous bridge]

^ this

[zinc moon]

mods would ruin this channel

if they started paying attention to it

[lilac wren]

yeah probably

[zinc moon]

im just happy eta kids are keeping them bussy

[zealous bridge]

i think mods know about the off topic nature that happens here

[lilac wren]

I hope so

[zinc moon]

they do

[zealous bridge]

but they decided that we do more good than harm

so they just leave us be

[zinc moon]

definitely

i dont want anything to change here, at all

[lilac wren]

LOL

[zinc moon]

LMAOO NO WAY

[zealous bridge]

check mine

lol

[lilac wren]

literally this is the only place I stay

[zealous bridge]

whats the %

[lilac wren]

94.2%

[zealous bridge]

94.2%

someone check mine

[zinc moon]

i have 16k messages and 2,690 are here

[zealous bridge]

pls

[lilac wren]

ill do it

[zinc moon]

i will

[zealous bridge]

im guessing 75%

[zinc moon]

beat me to it

[lilac wren]

63%

[zinc moon]

wow

[zealous bridge]

Wow 63%

Damn

[zinc moon]

i need to step up my percentages

[lilac wren]

wow

[zealous bridge]

I’m not that active ig

[zinc moon]

thats a lot man

[zealous bridge]

63% vs 94% ok god damn

[lilac wren]

or you're extra active in this server in other channels as well?

[zealous bridge]

yes that too

in #jailbreak or #genius-bar maybe

[lilac wren]

There was a period where you like disappeared from here tb lol

[zealous bridge]

that was school

its gonna come again

from next week

[zinc moon]

i remember that girl called shady

[zealous bridge]

i have twelve hour school so i cant be active ever

[zinc moon]

she used to talk all the time

i think she created cfw guides

with emma

[zinc moon]

you what???

[zealous bridge]

ye

[zinc moon]

no way

[lilac wren]

TB this is you total vs #futurerestore-help, #genius-bar, and #genius-bar-2

like 66%

not much different

[zealous bridge]

and #jailbreak?

[zinc moon]

WOOW NO FUCKING WAY

SHE USED TO HAVE LIKE

30K MESSAGES

jesus

[zealous bridge]

yeah

[lilac wren]

9,822 from tb in #jailbreak

[zealous bridge]

the server got nuked

remember

[zinc moon]

alexk

did it all

[zealous bridge]

?

[zinc moon]

for a bot

[zealous bridge]

i dont know exactly what happened tbh

[zinc moon]

its looooong

[lilac wren]

why did it get nuked what

I think I remember? or maybe it was a different server

[zealous bridge]

someone needs to explain to me cause im curious af

[lilac wren]

#announcements message

that was in 2020

over a year ago

[zinc moon]

@lilac wren a retired admin called alexk wanted to add a bot, basically, aaron and other admins said no,

[zealous bridge]

thats when the incident happened ig

[zinc moon]

he started to tamper with shit

when that happened

they took his perms away

however

through a backdoor

[lilac wren]

wow petty

[zinc moon]

he deleted this server

[zealous bridge]

tf

how

[zinc moon]

what i said is super simplified

GOD KNOWS BRO

[lilac wren]

a bot probably

[zinc moon]

seems like he had an alt

[lilac wren]

I've made a backdoor in another server ngl

[zealous bridge]

you need to be owner to delete a server

a bot cant delete a server afaik

[lilac wren]

simple, I react with a specific emoji to the bot from a specified alt and it gives me moderator perms

[lilac wren]

the bot has manage server perms so it can delete all channels

[zealous bridge]

oof

[zinc moon]

thats whats strange

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRFFKdhBzVk

[lilac wren]

also manage roles deletes all roles

[zinc moon]

bro turned to the wrong jailbreak

[lilac wren]

you can also ban all members

[zealous bridge]

so delete server with extra steps

omg

[zinc moon]

he didnt delete the server, but delete the channels

[lilac wren]

think about GIR right, it has manage roles and manage members for sure. it can ban people with like ?ban and also gives muted role + member pro, etc

[zealous bridge]

imagine if that happened to the subreddit

[lilac wren]

so it can do everything but delete the server

ban all members

[zinc moon]

i had a pic of the pins

of 2018

on icloud

lemme try find it

[zealous bridge]

lol

[lilac wren]

lol never give a bot besides automod any perms in a subreddit

[zealous bridge]

fucking alexk man

[zinc moon]

he did all that for a bot

the server had around 1.5m messages

before all this happened

[zealous bridge]

oh so

they added his bot in the end?

[zinc moon]

#jailbreak alone now has 3.57M messages now

[lilac wren]

oh wow

[zealous bridge]

otherwise how would the backdoor exist

[zinc moon]

he had perms to change the bot

[lilac wren]

if he has manage servers perms, other bots usually let those people use their commands

so he had perms to change other bots maybe

[zealous bridge]

oh

hmm

[zinc moon]

whos that directed at?

[zealous bridge]

Ultra the genius

[zinc moon]

i remember the day

3/13/2020

bro when it happened

the shock

i have a photo

of a message

from alex

k

wait why is the quality like that

[zealous bridge]

Aaron got warned lol

[zinc moon]

lmfaoo

[lilac wren]

lol

[slim grove]

im on ios 14.3 with my xr
could i save blobs, update ios 14.4.2 and futurerestore my device later back to ios 14.3?

[zinc moon]

what the fuck

stay

[zealous bridge]

as long as sep is compatible yes

[lilac wren]

only if a jailbreak comes out for 14.4.2

[zealous bridge]

^ and that

[lilac wren]

and sep and bb must be compatible

[zealous bridge]

so right now no

[lilac wren]

and the blobs for 14.3 have to be good

[lilac wren]

not onboards

[slim grove]

oh shit i forgot that

[slim grove]

wdym good?

[zealous bridge]

ios 14.3 is unsigned now

so unless you saved blobs before

cant save them now

@lilac wren onboards arent bad

[slim grove]

shit

[zealous bridge]

but for them to work with fr you needed to have ipsw updated to the version you’re saving onboards for

If you ota’ed then it’ll save ota blobs

Which are useless for A12+

[slim grove]

omg

[zinc moon]

dont do it

basically

[slim grove]

ok so nervermind then

[zinc moon]

@zealous bridge you ever used onboard blobs?

[zealous bridge]

Not successfully

[zinc moon]

what device did you try

[slim grove]

whats onboard blobs

[zealous bridge]

Actually

[zinc moon]

@slim grove nothing

[slim grove]

sheeesh

[zealous bridge]

I used onboards for A9 successfully

[zinc moon]

jk onboard blobs are like

blobs you get from the version

if youre on it

even if its unsigned

[zealous bridge]

and that worked because i ipsw updated

[zinc moon]

but youre a12

so it wont work

[zealous bridge]

but my a13 didnt work

so rip

[zinc moon]

@zealous bridge do they have a high success rate for a10

[zealous bridge]

@slim grove do you remember how you updated to 14.3

[zealous bridge]

its not chip specific

[stiff hazel]

@zinc moon @zealous bridge did y’all here about what sloopie did in Sileo server or no

[slim grove]

the superviosor profil thing

[zealous bridge]

no

[zinc moon]

untether downgrade?

[stiff hazel]

yes, which would technically work for A8/A9

[zinc moon]

HUH

[zealous bridge]

they got a sep exploit?

what

[zinc moon]

@stiff hazel how did they do it

i hope a writeup comes out soon

[slim grove]

wtf i understand nothing

[stiff hazel]

Involves tether downgrading once, blackbird, the fact A8/A9 uses arbitrary sep, and something I’m forgetting

Tested in concept with A10 via succession tether downgrade to 14.2 (which meant 14.2 with 14.3 sep) then updating using the OTA method to untethered 14.3 which worked

[zinc moon]

what

but

it didnt work for me

oh i frd

thats why

if only i never frd to 14.4.1

[zealous bridge]

makes sense

but doesnt change much

[zinc moon]

@zealous bridge it proves downgrading

is possible

for the ota

[zealous bridge]

we always knew it was

[zinc moon]

method

[zealous bridge]

for sep exploit

sep exploit always allowed downgrading to some extent

[lilac wren]

is there a tool for tethered downgrade with checkm8

[zinc moon]

@zealous bridge my dad might give me his iphone 8 when i travel to him tommorow, if hes on 14.4, can i downgrade?

[zealous bridge]

divise works, idk what succession tether is tho

[zealous bridge]

no

[zinc moon]

sad

[stiff hazel]

This would technically allow A10 but the issue is SEP isn’t arbitrary on A10 so you would need sep blobs... and the tsschecker that is normally used is bugged and doesn’t save sep blobs so yeah

[zealous bridge]

yeah true

someone link succession tether whatever

never heard of it before

[zinc moon]

i just hope my dads old 8 is lower than 14.3

if it is

ill try testing

stuff

[stiff hazel]

A11 might work under same conditions as A10 in the future if they somehow can get blackbird to work, A12+ is never gonna work with this method

[zinc moon]

with it

blackbird?

[stiff hazel]

sep exploit

[zinc moon]

wtf

[stiff hazel]

blackbird is the same of the sep exploit

[zinc moon]

i thought blackbird worked for a10

and lower

[stiff hazel]

blackbird works on A8-A10

(X)’s included

[low summit]

A11?

[zealous bridge]

Is it PyBoot @stiff hazel

[stiff hazel]

A11 partially patched it by I think sep being 64-bit or something

A12 full patched it

[green onyx]

nah

u need a bootrom exploit to see if its patched

nobody knows if A12 patches it

[stiff hazel]

eh true

[green onyx]

A11 is full patched

A10 is partial

[stiff hazel]

huh

what

[green onyx]

ye

[stiff hazel]

A10 is fine

[zinc moon]

what does exploiting sep do exactly

[green onyx]

thats why theres a workaround for A10 for sep

[low summit]

So a11 sep fix is possible?

[zinc moon]

change it?

[green onyx]

A11 is full patched

[stiff hazel]

We’re talking blackbird

[green onyx]

yes

ik

[stiff hazel]

how the hell is A10 partial

[green onyx]

theres a reason why checkra1n didnt work on A10 for a long time

blackbird worked partial on A10

[stiff hazel]

they needed a sep exploit

[green onyx]

but checkra1n team worked on workaround

[stiff hazel]

And to implement it

[green onyx]

no

they made a work around

A10 is partial

[stiff hazel]

be right back finding info on blackbird

[green onyx]

for blackbird

sure

[lilac wren]

oh yeah remember A9 worked but A10 didnt

[green onyx]

^

[lilac wren]

then they fixed it later

[green onyx]

A10 is partial

[zealous bridge]

true

[zinc moon]

wait

so

exploiting sep

changes the sep?

[zealous bridge]

Lets sep run arbitrary code

[zinc moon]

so if blackbird works on a10

doesnt that mean

i can change the sep to 14.3

[stiff hazel]

This is from the pdf attached here https://twitter.com/windknown/status/1291308058493116416?s=20 so I’m doubtful

Hao (@windknown)

enjoy "blackbird" 🐦 https://t.co/rk6Jnzfyuj

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So I’m confused what you’re referring to @green onyx unless I missed something

A8/A9 never even needed the sep exploit for checkra1n, only A10 (and still technically A11) needed it for checkra1n

[lilac wren]

I stg why does libMRYIPC want to reboot every update... I almost always click it

[zinc moon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/ixrt40/discussion_untethered_downgrades_with_blobs_and/

[stiff hazel]

That was checkra1n indeed for 0.11.0 yes

[zinc moon]

@stiff hazel what are the results of sloopie's expirement?

[stiff hazel]

For the concept it worked

[zinc moon]

and in practice?

[stiff hazel]

no example currently but everything should work unless there is something else we’re missing

[zinc moon]

how many testers are there

if this can work for A10 i will happily participate

[lilac wren]

so would this work to downgrade to 13.7 and upgrade to 14.2 with blobs? to try again at fdr

[stiff hazel]

1. I don’t know
2. It can’t unless you have sep blobs saved for <14.4 which you likely won’t even if you have saved blobs because the common tsschecker is bugged

[zinc moon]

oh

but how do i even save sep blobs

in the first place

[stiff hazel]

There’s a tsschecker fork which fixes the bug and saves them

The main one needs to have that be merged into it

[zealous bridge]

what about tss saver

and shsh host

[stiff hazel]

I don’t know? Maybe on Wifi iPad’s and iPod’s?

[stiff hazel]

Think they use the main (bug) version

[celest basalt]

Think anyone can help me I upgraded my libmryipc and it completely broke all my tweaks and I’m having to load my jailbreak without tweaks to even type this out or else I’ll be in a infinite apple logo loop

[stiff hazel]

@celest basalt was there when this was being looked through so you can ask them about it exactly

[zealous bridge]

shouldve pinged me smh

[stiff hazel]

well no one thought to ping you sorry

although dhinak might’ve been pinged

[zealous bridge]

lol /s

hey as long as this works idc

[stiff hazel]

also from the same pdf

[zinc moon]

i thought you didnt need blobs

for blackbird

[zealous bridge]

what tool do you use to patch sep with blackbird

[lilac wren]

^

Wanna know as well

[zinc moon]

same

[stiff hazel]

the issue is simple: we don’t have a (known) tool yet.

what we’re thinking is, pongoOS should be able to handle what we want to do with blackbird

again, this whole thing relies on us assuming nothing else is preventing the entire thing that we’re not thinking about

[celest basalt]

problem is, pongo only pwns SEP on A10 right now

[zealous bridge]

Tether downgrading doesnt touch SEP right

[zinc moon]

would making a ui tool for this be simple

@celest basalt lets gooo i guess

[celest basalt]

not A8-A9 yet since it isnt necessary for checkra1n

but A10 needs SEP blobs

[zinc moon]

nvm i need sep blobs

[stiff hazel]

yeah, would need A8/A9 stuff

could maybe fork pongo or something

[stiff hazel]

Succession downgrading doesn’t
Downgrading with futurerestore likely would I think

[zealous bridge]

how do we “use an arbitrary sep”

[stiff hazel]

blackbird can load arbitrary sepos since they don’t at all rely on sep blobs and shit

[zealous bridge]

so use 14.2 arbitrary sep + blackbird is just blackbird

got it

[stiff hazel]

not necessarily to my knowledge but eh maybe

this discussion from here appears relevant I think? #554064188243181581 message

[green onyx]

https://checkra.in/news/2020/09/iOS-14-announcement

ah yes

im wrong

sorry about that

@stiff hazel is right

A11 is partial

and A10 works

@stiff hazel sorry for the late replies, i was in class lol

[zealous bridge]

ok well i can try this on a9 tomorrow if i can get all the tools required

[stiff hazel]

you’re fine lmao

[zealous bridge]

but tbh stuff like this is kinda pointless

because checkra1n exists

[stiff hazel]

this is what sloopie thinks

[green onyx]

apparently, this doesnt require blobs

[stiff hazel]

SEP on A8/A9 is arbitrary

[green onyx]

hm

[stiff hazel]

doesn’t require sep blobs

[green onyx]

ah yes

[zinc moon]

FR??

if it doesnt for a10

[green onyx]

yes but for A9 and A8

[zinc moon]

oh

nvm

[zealous bridge]

maybe we just need to find a way to get ota to downgrade sep

[green onyx]

not possible afaik

[zinc moon]

and for a10?

[green onyx]

no

iirc no

[stiff hazel]

that has sep blobs and tsschecker sucks so you likely don’t have them saved

[zealous bridge]

well anything is possible

[zinc moon]

wait

what happened

to

tsschecker

[stiff hazel]

that’s like saying checkra1n A13 is technically possible

[stiff hazel]

Been bugged and doesn’t save sep blobs

[green onyx]

well it is, in maybe 10 years?

[zealous bridge]

my question is if ipsw can downgrade sep why cant ota

it must be possible

[lilac wren]

Is MITM really possible? Tried a bit and kept getting blocked, found

Apple services will fail any connection that uses HTTPS Interception (SSL Inspection). If the HTTPS traffic traverses a web proxy, disable HTTPS Interception for the hosts listed in this article.

[green onyx]

true, full otas have bb and sep

[zealous bridge]

maybe we can pwn ota

lol

[zealous bridge]

i have saved ota blobs

so go figure

via MITM

[lilac wren]

That's MITM?

[green onyx]

did u dump ota blobs from the ota?

[lilac wren]

I thought you just used tss checker or dump onboards

[zealous bridge]

it was in a .ips iirc

[green onyx]

u didnt actually request it from tatsu

[zealous bridge]

no actually

[lilac wren]

^ Your phone didn't request it from tatsu and you didn't MITM the request

Or you actually did?

[green onyx]

tanbeer dumped them from the ota

his device did request blobs for the ota upgrade

[celest basalt]

TSS request is sent in cleartext

[zinc moon]

@zealous bridge if i frd to 14.0.1 and put 14.0.1 bb and sep instead of latest

[zealous bridge]

its in device logs too

[zinc moon]

would it work

[zealous bridge]

14.0.1 sep isnt signed

[celest basalt]

yes but if you want to save usable blobs you need to MITM the request

[zinc moon]

oh right sep and bb need to be signed aswell

[zealous bridge]

isnt it the response

[stiff hazel]

14.4 bb is exactly the same as 14.0 bb

[celest basalt]

in the logs, you have a full response but those blobs have an unknown generator

[zealous bridge]

which are the blobs

[stiff hazel]

The big issue is sep

[celest basalt]

the request is truncated and you need the full BCert to replay it

BCert only needs to match against ApChipID, ApECID, ProductMarketingVersion and SepNonce

[zealous bridge]

doesnt that only apply to A14

[celest basalt]

so you can replay and save blobs with an arbitrary apnonce

[zealous bridge]

oh right

[celest basalt]

no

OTA blobs are useless on A12+ anyway

[zealous bridge]

ik

but i was just showing it was possible

[celest basalt]

I meant to reply no to this

that was a different thing

[zealous bridge]

also cant we just set generator then

before sending the request

[celest basalt]

for A14 TSS refuses with error 94 even with a proper managed request

[zealous bridge]

with MITM it

[celest basalt]

probably not, it randomizes the generator before requesting the APTicket

[zinc moon]

what the hell is you two saying

[celest basalt]

although maybe if one is already set it wouldn't? idk

[zealous bridge]

thats what i was thinking

hmm

[celest basalt]

MITM is literally not hard anyway, just disable SSL decryption

[zealous bridge]

but like you said you can save them to use with arbitrary apnonces

[celest basalt]

TSS request is in cleartext so

[zealous bridge]

yep

[stiff hazel]

mitm sep shit

[zinc moon]

so

what was the conclusion

of the big boy words they said

becuase i did not understand shit

[green onyx]

lol

tldr: ota blobs dumped from otas dont work

because u dont know the generator

[zealous bridge]

and its not even a proper request

[green onyx]

and even if u did, its useless on A12+ anyways

[zealous bridge]

the bcert is shortened

So only way is to MITM

which is trivial

[green onyx]

is it even possible to mitm?

[zealous bridge]

yes

[green onyx]

how

[lilac wren]

how do I MITM without updating then lol, force reboot right after i get the request

[green onyx]

^

[lilac wren]

any proxy

[green onyx]

huh

[zealous bridge]

mitmproxy works iirc

[celest basalt]

you could have the proxy modify the response

[zealous bridge]

also nyu used something

like finger idk

[celest basalt]

send an invalid TSS response to the device

[lilac wren]

ah true

[celest basalt]

I used Fiddler yeah

[green onyx]

lol

[zealous bridge]

that ^

[green onyx]

finger = fiddler

[zealous bridge]

trust me

[celest basalt]

Fiddler AutoResponder should work, though I can't test it anymore since I updated to 14.4.2 and failed with the downgrade

but I just let the 14.3->14.3 update go through yesterday and it went fine

[lilac wren]

@celest basalt can we do something like this currently?
https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/gxgboo/discussion_how_to_update_appletv_hd_4k_to_1345/

[green onyx]

hm

they use charles

[celest basalt]

yeah should be possible technically

[green onyx]

but again, thats lower firmware to a higher firmware

[celest basalt]

not for me on 14.5 bc no downgrades, can't even JB it with checkra1n atm

[lilac wren]

ok ill try stuff with that

[celest basalt]

you have to supervise the Apple TV

[lilac wren]

nah for phones

[celest basalt]

no tweak exists for tvOS so just edit the plist manually

[zealous bridge]

isnt bcert tied to a specific version tho

[celest basalt]

oh

[celest basalt]

yeah but I meant the same method we used to update iPhones

no MITM trickery just let it update

[zealous bridge]

doesnt that include modifying the response to a lower firmware? how would that work if bcert was tied to a specific version

i’m guessing what they’re wanting is versions below 14.3

[celest basalt]

no, that was a different method

don't need to modify the response in this case

just use the same delayed update thing

[zealous bridge]

oh

i cant read then

[stiff hazel]

Couldn’t delayed updates also work on tvOS and audioOS and shit

[lilac wren]

These options are available in iOS and iPadOS 11.3 or later, macOS 10.15.6 or later, and tvOS 12.2 or later.

[celest basalt]

tvOS yes, good luck with audioOS or watchOS though

[zealous bridge]

which business uses apple tvs

lmao

[lilac wren]

schools and meeting rooms for airplay and whatnot

[pale star]

both sep&bb must be compatible to downgrade with fr?

or sep is enough

[zealous bridge]

Yes

[pale star]

ok

[stiff hazel]

both

[zealous bridge]

Sep and baseband both

[pale star]

👍🏻

[green onyx]

true

damn

after the ota thing

nobody needs help with fr now

[zinc moon]

@vivid nova crazy sister check

[celest basalt]

just rename this channel to #ota-help

[vivid nova]

too much use from your mom i see...

[zinc moon]

She threw it at me once

[royal flint]

aight whats new

[pale star]

haha 😅 true

[vivid nova]

regardless of a broken remote, you can still use your phone @zinc moon

[stiff hazel]

what sloopie did, potentially mitm’ing 14.3 shit, that’s about it

[vivid nova]

just keep it on vibration for her

[zealous bridge]

nothing rly, just explaining the concept of mitm the tss requests to these guys

[zinc moon]

Sloopie is trying untethered downgrades on A8/9

[royal flint]

ah ok

[zinc moon]

BRO???

[green onyx]

LOL

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

[lilac wren]

lol

[vivid nova]

depending on the age... would make no difference

[zealous bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-sweet-home-alabama-gif-9637175

[digital cobalt]

When I try to downgrade with FutureRestore from 14.4.2 -> 14.3, I get errors.

[zealous bridge]

cool

[zinc moon]

She’s 8 bro

[lilac wren]

JTV out of line

[zealous bridge]

what errors

[vivid nova]

8 year olds watch TV

[zinc moon]

yea

[green onyx]

which?

[zinc moon]

YouTube

[green onyx]

screenshot them to me

lol @digital cobalt literally disappeared

[zealous bridge]

true

[vivid nova]

sus alt

[green onyx]

true

[vivid nova]

[zinc moon]

josh you rocking with invest??

incest

[green onyx]

[vivid nova]

how would that make sense if there's no bloodline relation with TVs

[zinc moon]

she’s not a tv

[zealous bridge]

its called electric fluid

[zinc moon]

The vibration will be unlocked when she’s 16

[green onyx]

this is getting into some weirdass shit

[zinc moon]

Yea

Let’s stop

[green onyx]

how to jb a sister lol

[vivid nova]

and you say I'm out of line...

[zinc moon]

Before this turns into another #jailbreak

[zealous bridge]

someone’s getting a bit too frisky to be talking in #futurerestore-help right now...

[stiff hazel]

#futurerestore-help more like #general-2

[vivid nova]

get her in trouble with the law, then hook up the bars to a tank

[zealous bridge]

#

[green onyx]

how do i untether jb a sister

i need untether !!!!!

aight

we should really stop

@digital cobalt u good?

[valid adder]

@green onyx he also asked in two different GitHub issues...

[green onyx]

[zealous bridge]

literally says that as he’s continuing the weirdness

[green onyx]

ppl really dont know how to use github

or github issues

[zealous bridge]

ban him pls

[green onyx]

LOL

[valid adder]

Asked him to get muted here two

[vivid nova]

demote capt pls

[green onyx]

why

[vivid nova]

for making batch

[green onyx]

hm

[lilac wren]

batchomatic is good

[zealous bridge]

ban

[green onyx]

are u fr

[valid adder]

[vivid nova]

stfu

[zealous bridge]

probably uses discord light mode

weirdo

[green onyx]

@lilac wren u do know that batch breaks dpkg right?

[zealous bridge]

not even breaks

[lilac wren]

ok time to rootfs

[valid adder]

Froggy actually uses light mode

[lilac wren]

yes lol

[zealous bridge]

just fucking shits on it

[green onyx]

how do i extract debian files on windows

[valid adder]

Admins are inactive rn

[vivid nova]

only people whom use light mode, go to stores without a mask use batchomatic

[green onyx]

too lazy to boot in kubuntu

[valid adder]

Wait for cam to come online, instaban

[zealous bridge]

froggy:
loves ibec
uses discord light mode
think batch is good

#CancelFroggy #CancelCulture #DramaAlert

[green onyx]

im pretty sure froggy wears a mask

[vivid nova]

doubt

[valid adder]

iBEC gang

[green onyx]

he got vaccinated tdy

[green onyx]

u like ibec?

[lilac wren]

Lol wow

[valid adder]

I’m getting my second dose on Sunday

[vivid nova]

I injected your mom

[lilac wren]

im not wearing one rn

[green onyx]

i heard its suppose to hurt

[valid adder]

Good thing I’m not working

[green onyx]

damn does anyone know how to convert a juice theme into a fufu theme?

[zealous bridge]

this is #jailbreak right

[stiff hazel]

no

this is #futurerestore-help

[zealous bridge]

[zinc moon]

Mike moment

[stiff hazel]

[zealous bridge]

Rip

[stiff hazel]

[zealous bridge]

[vivid nova]

i can convert your mom from innocent to naughty

[lilac wren]

!​t noTAG4u

[zealous bridge]

!t joshyouaren’tfunny

[zinc moon]

Can we return this place

To normal

[zealous bridge]

lool

[zinc moon]

please

[stiff hazel]

yes

[split torrent]

No

[green onyx]

[zealous bridge]

“i can return your mom to normal”

[stiff hazel]

[zinc moon]

I thought you was josh

[green onyx]

this

[zealous bridge]

josh moment

[zinc moon]

josh is the simplest most predictable molecule

[vivid nova]

who tf is josh?

[zinc moon]

On the planet

[zealous bridge]

^ this

[zinc moon]

@vivid nova clearly me

[vivid nova]

tell your mom i said hi

[low summit]

I'll tell his mom tv said hi

[vivid nova]

ok zoomer

[zealous bridge]

Ok who

[low summit]

Lol I actually use zoom fk

[green onyx]

is anyone in bedtime's server

^fufu dev

[low summit]

@vivid nova tell apple I said hi

[vivid nova]

tell @split torrent yourself

[zealous bridge]

Imma call apple

[split torrent]

Do it

[vivid nova]

not before I call your mom

[low summit]

@split torrent @zinc moon 's mom said hi

[zealous bridge]

oi apple

join

[low summit]

Tim cook ain't ready for some kid

[green onyx]

LOL

[zealous bridge]

one

[low summit]

Apple let me Ota update thx

[zinc moon]

<@&430363671722590209>

Who’s this role for

@zealous bridge elaborate on the whole not a virgin thing

[zealous bridge]

i refuse

[green onyx]

what?

[zealous bridge]

<@&430363671722590209>

[green onyx]

<@&430363671722590209>

aaron

[vivid nova]

your mom

[low summit]

Ur mom

Wait tvs don't got

[zealous bridge]

im on hold with apple support

i can hear ur ping

[split torrent]

A representative will be with you shortly.

Fixed

[zealous bridge]

ur acc shit

[vivid nova]

Since iOS 10.. I've never seen this until today..

[low summit]

Jtv the apple employee

[vivid nova]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-panic-run-scream-gif-4656335

Apple's changing the servers

[split torrent]

There has been an influx of calls today. Please wait, as a representative will be with you shortly.

[vivid nova]

I'll call up your mom and be with her shortly

[low summit]

Apple let me downgrade without blobs

[lilac wren]

Lol this is fire in General vc

[green onyx]

why does it sound like BTD6 music

[low summit]

wtf lol

nothings happening

[green onyx]

apple is playing piano wow

[low summit]

apple u fker

pick up already

wtf

[green onyx]

WTF

[low summit]

bruhhh

[green onyx]

LITERALLY

LMAO

I LEFT

[low summit]

fk that shit

lmao

[green onyx]

i muted that person

[low summit]

i dipped

[green onyx]

nice

@split torrent how are u so good at music

[lilac wren]

https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-ceo-tim-cook-changes-apples-on-hold-music-2014-7

[vivid nova]

The same way I'm good with their mom

[zinc moon]

@vivid nova BRO

My tv just

Turned off

Randomly

It keeps doing that

[vivid nova]

The Apple TV?

[zinc moon]

All I do is watch YT

Yes

Not the display itself

[lilac wren]

Tanbeer your audio is flickering in and out

[green onyx]

@zealous bridge what are u playing on ur mic lol

oh

i hear it now

[vivid nova]

Adjust your sleep timing

[lilac wren]

I think noise suppression?

[zinc moon]

What in the hell is a sleep timing

[vivid nova]

The timer for sleep

In settings, general

[zinc moon]

o

[green onyx]

i have a feeling @split torrent is a bot

[zinc moon]

I’ll see it tom

[low summit]

JTV u work for apple

[zinc moon]

@split torrent does your mom love you

[green onyx]

tanbeer really trolling rn

[split torrent]

You don't have anyone named "mom" in your contacts.

[zinc moon]

I can’t hear him

[zinc moon]

You gotta be a hot

[green onyx]

i can but kinda laggy

its probably bc his cousin's wifi sucks ass

but its fine lol

[lilac wren]

yeah tanbeer has noise suppression or bad wifi

[zealous bridge]

might be the mic

ah rip

[zinc moon]

I’ll say something

nvm

[lilac wren]

@split torrent tell me a joke

[zinc moon]

What if it’s a selfbot

[low summit]

gg apple closing their server on ur device

no more app store

[green onyx]

charge ur phone lol

[zealous bridge]

Yh rip

[split torrent]

Have you heard the joke about yoga?

Never mind, it's a bit of a stretch.

[lilac wren]

-_-

[zinc moon]

@split torrent fuck me

[zealous bridge]

@split torrent what is 0 divided by 0

[low summit]

@split torrent can u remove app store for certain devices?

[zinc moon]

guys this is too much

[low summit]

ill fk ur mom

[zinc moon]

for them to say to their Siri

And then paste here

[zinc moon]

I’ll do you one better

I’ll make a bundle deal to fuck you AND your mom

Ok I feel like I’m ruining this channel

[zealous bridge]

this is #futurerestore-help ...

[zinc moon]

Let’s go back to normal

[zealous bridge]

[split torrent]

Imagine that you have 0 cookies and you split them evenly among 0 friends. How many cookies does each person get? See? It doesn’t make sense. Tanbeer doesn't have friends.

[zealous bridge]

true

[zinc moon]

LMFAO

[low summit]

Apple the philosopher

[zinc moon]

@zealous bridge how do custom IPSWs work

Since whatever you’re using to restore has to reach out to the Apple servers

[low summit]

ask @split torrent

[zinc moon]

Doesn’t that mean it’ll invalidate the custom IPSW?

[zealous bridge]

once the firmware is on device, the filesystem is verified by iboot, which can be compromised with a bootrom exploit

[low summit]

can u preserve bb and sep with that?

[zealous bridge]

bb and sep have their own ROM and OS

So no

[low summit]

cfw used to preserve bb

[zealous bridge]

wait does bb even have rom

idk but theres a processor for it

[zealous bridge]

yeah exploits exist

[low summit]

they dont do that anymore?

[zealous bridge]

no

[zinc moon]

What does FR need to reach out to the Apple server, then?

[zealous bridge]

since you need bootrom exploit + sep exploit + bb exploit nowadays

[zealous bridge]

an internet connection? lmao

[low summit]

oh

they not the same shit anymore

[zealous bridge]

its not hard to ping the apple servers

[low summit]

icloud is also in apple servers?

[zealous bridge]

one of them

[zinc moon]

I mean like

Why do they do it

[low summit]

so they have multiple servers for different things?

[zealous bridge]

All major companies do

[low summit]

one for sep one for bb?

[zealous bridge]

because they need to verify signatures

The device won’t restore without it

[zinc moon]

So technically, we can use Custom IPSWs with a checkm8?

[zealous bridge]

?

[zealous bridge]

tethered probably

[low summit]

does android need to validate signatures?

[zealous bridge]

never used android before

[low summit]

to move from firmware to firmware?

[zealous bridge]

dont know jack shit abt it

[low summit]

lol

[zinc moon]

Is there a way to spoof apples response? If the say no, can it be spoofed as yes?

[zealous bridge]

id assume its different for each vendor

[zealous bridge]

not that simple

encryption exists

[low summit]

so what was the point of cydia server back in the day?

[zinc moon]

No except for huawei and xiami

[zinc moon]

Ah

[low summit]

of course otherwise u could break icloud ez

[zealous bridge]

guess things were simpler before

[pastel bluff]

could someone help me determine for sure whether or not I can FR

[zinc moon]

Since onboard blobs exist, do onboard SEP and BB blobs exist?

[zinc moon]

What’s your current version, I assume 14.1?

[low summit]

think its the same

[zealous bridge]

judging by your name i’d say yes if you have valid blobs and if it’s 14.3+

[zealous bridge]

no

[zinc moon]

It turns out there are SEP blobs

[low summit]

that yes

[zealous bridge]

not that i know of

[zinc moon]

Hm

[low summit]

and bb too?

[pastel bluff]

See #genius-bar for more details but basically my device is pswd locked. I have blobs but not really sure if I check the boxes and i can't really do anything on my phone atm lol

[zealous bridge]

bb blobs have always been saved

[pastel bluff]

kind of a last resort before I restore my device

[zealous bridge]

you need ssh access to the device @pastel bluff

[zinc moon]

@pastel bluff is it in recovery mode

[zealous bridge]

and some way to get the phone trusted

[zinc moon]

@pastel bluff did you set nonce on it

[pastel bluff]

I had this morning but then I put it in DFU and it restarted :((((

[zinc moon]

If you set nonce you could’ve good to go

[zealous bridge]

well you need to

[pastel bluff]

No I didn't mess with any settings on Taurine. idk how to

[zealous bridge]

no other way

[pastel bluff]

okay

[zinc moon]

You’re fucked

[pastel bluff]

ig I'll update then

[zinc moon]

Restore it

[pastel bluff]

sucks but no other choice

[zinc moon]

@zealous bridge if only he set nonce lol

[pastel bluff]

idk what you're supposed to put for nonce and such which is why I'd never done it

[zinc moon]

It’s simple honestly

[pastel bluff]

and I had SSH installed but I had barely any service to do any real work

[zinc moon]

You forgot the device’s password right?

[pastel bluff]

yea

[zinc moon]

lol

You’re fucked

[pastel bluff]

essentially I succesison'd last night while I was high and by the time I woke up I forgot the password I put on it

[zealous bridge]

[zinc moon]

[pastel bluff]

yea

never again

oh well now I just have to sit back and wait for a new exploit

once again

or a downgrade method

[zinc moon]

I guess you learned the hard way

[pastel bluff]

I mean I've been jailbreaking since iOS 7 so this has happened to me plenty of times

most notably on ios 10.3 or somewhere where I got a bootloop

dude the worst part is that it took me 3 hrs to get succession working cause I didn't realize I didn't have enough storage to download the ipsw

so after 3 hours I was exhausted and happy I finally got a fresh install

then the next morning password lock

and I can't even keep trying I'm completely locked out

[celest basalt]

What's taurine's default nonce?

[zinc moon]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-kanye-west-cant-believe-this-gif-4773356

Since iOS 7 and this happened to you?

[pastel bluff]

I mean I didn't really do anything wrong

I just forgot

lolol

ig the response was bad but like I said I've never used FR so idk anything about it

[celest basalt]

Don't feel bad, it's happened to me twice

[pastel bluff]

and I didn't know it was an option

yea ig now I know

I'll have to research setting nonce