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but you can still replace an app with PersistenceHelper and leave it in app switcher
Something tells me apple is gonna force close apps on update on newer fw after this lul
surely it’s not this terrible
thats what im getting at BUT
it seems persistence dies in apps that are NOT gta tracker
Try this method who are having trouble with kfd
OH I see, there's no way that's actually gonna work
yea thats what i did @mossy kestrel
you’d still only be able to do it from 13 (since 16 and later require 13 at a minimum)
but whatever
@random walrus here’s live demo
apple security defeated by app switcher 
yea saw it

but it does work to other apps
a feature they made can't even kill apps after update 
yea but they die on restore
TrollSwitcher™️
I’m not entirely sure on that now actually
hmm what stops us from doing this as an install method actually?
How do you screw up delayOTA Idgi lol
🤔
partial restore...? is it like a partial backup or what
it’s what cowabunga lite does
IF its a real method and theres potential, recomendation to hold off till theres new iOS versions out
and nuke this channel lmaoao
Nuke this shit hard LOL
I looked at this, a backup contains no executables, so you can’t add a new app
wait can't you like modify the backup and replace the Tips binary with trollstore binary then restore backup or what
damn, no chance to modify a binary to install TS from there unfortunately
is there an explanation to the gta tracker thing still alive coming from 14.x?
from app switcher at least
It doesn’t backup apps
More specifically it doesn’t backup executables
Yeah I wish it was that easy lol
yea that's not gonna work
huh
would a partial restore work if i uninstalled trollstore before updating from 14->16.6, but still have gta car tracker
yea gta tracker if u have it u should be good
Not as important as if it’s able to backup app switcher state
but ive never done it like that so ymmv
but GTA tracker is the entrypoint when u restore anyways, trollstore is blacked out after DelayOTAing until u install persistence and reinstall from there
like in my vid
this
Is it still in switcher?
nope
16.6
at least you have trollstore working and it opens
It backs it up by bundle ID
@random walrus well yea and persistence to tips
So if you just add a bundle ID which isn’t installed it won’t work
its just GTA that wont open anymore
GTA won’t work on 17.0
it mocks me
did u see the vid alfie
he was able to open it on app switcher
But it does tho 👀
But like, if you replace executable of AppStore app it should stay there
same method
You can’t replace an executable using a backup though
Nope?
yeah, I meant replacing before delay OTA
Oh yeah but you won’t be able to launch it from Home Screen
@cunning shoal
Oh yeah, it will stay there unless you restore the backup completely
or maybe safer, replace developer-signed app so it won’t accidentally get updated
Why does even work from switcher at all tho when even the other persistence apps are killed
that's the thing
Maybe because it’s a user registered app
i am suspecting GTA will work till later versions on delayota but i dont have the balls to try that lmao
It definitely doesn’t work as an install method
at least, 14.x to later
oh
to keep persistence at least
a one time use
but yea i havent deleted it off my devices, JUST in case
I think it would be more useful to install a pre tailored gta TYPE of app on 14 for different exploit purposes on 17.x. Wouldn’t be able to ever help with TS but could hypothetically have other benefits
You still won’t be able to open it from Home Screen
That won’t change
hmm, what would happen if you replace the gta binary and open it on the app switcher (??) now that you have ts and filza plus tips for backup in use
It doesnt open at all, even after replacing the binary
even with the embedder binary?
Yea ive been trying. I literally overwrited with the tips binary (already Persistence injected) and also manually did embedded with permissions and nothing. Replacing Runner binary
hmm, pretty interesting. the fact that it only was able to run 1 time on the app switcher and then decides to no longer launch
So TrollStore apps are all registered as system apps, and sometimes when you refresh icon cache they all get set back to user state and you can’t open them (and you have to refresh app registrations in your persistence helper).
The reason for this is that SpringBoard also checks the code signature of user apps (not system apps). So, if you have an installd bypass, as they both use the same system to check the code signature, you can also bypass these SpringBoard checks. This app switcher method tricks iOS into thinking the app has already passed those checks, and so it will only go CoreTrust verification (which we can bypass).
So GTA Car Tracker will always work from app switcher, as you only need a CoreTrust bypass at that point. But since you don’t have an additional bypass for the SpringBoard checks, and it’s still registered as a user app, you won’t be able to launch it on iOS 17.
but how does this prevent it from being used as a:
- one time persistence helper
- one time TrollStore installer (hypothetically)
obviously yes, it won’t work after that, but just inject persistence helper into another app (e.g. Tips) after doing so
- custom designed dev research tool for digging into 17.x
Yes but, at that point, uve already installed TS, and then with TS u install another persistence to replace GTA. Unless thats patched
I mean it doesn’t, but why ?
how would a partial restore be done to recover apps in app switcher?
here me out: what if you ota’d from 13.x?
There’s a file which stores a database of apps in the app switcher
Please tell me that works from 12.4 too lol. I assume not tho
Can’t delay from 12 homie
Ye ik
On paper it would, but 16+ ota’s don’t work for <=12
well can't that file be modified..?
we actually tried forcing it on 12.4 and while it gets to the updating screen it eventually dies and boots back into 12.4
Yeah but you need TrollStore installed in the first place
It stores it by bundle ID
I updated that one to 16.7.2 already, rip
I tried looking into it as a potential install method last night but didn’t get anywhere
So then there’s no point at all in nuking my 14.8 TS to 17.1, it’s still gonna open gta in the switcher but without being able to do anything whatsoever
it would still die I think because it still does validation against CoreTrust, or am I wrong on that?
That’s not what I mean my b
I was saying like, earlier today it seemed like this wasn’t known at all. So I was going to just waste the device I wasn’t using and test it
But if you can have tracker and it opens in switcher on 17, then why can’t you have a different “gta” app that is tailored more towards looking deeper into the 17 fs
If a dev wants this 14.8 I’ll gladly donate it lol
Might be wiser to wait for blackbird
Ugh nvm
Disregard
A11 max MAYBE only
Would a10x and a11 be able to take advantage of this in some capacity bc of palerain?
(The GTA thing i mean)
So, I kept retrying, and now it's stuck on exploiting... is that a good thing?
No it will 100% crash
Have u tried this?
Not yet... I'm still trying to open misaka using kopen.
I think misaka needs to be updated for M2
Already in the latest update.
I'm in the latest version of misaka.
yeah sorry the latest version of misaka does not support m2 😦
What do you mean by that?
The current latest version of misaka will not exploit successfully on M2 devices
I.e. It Does Not Work
I can’t install tips lol
reboot and try again
Can i use anything other than tips?
Well... I gave up.
yeah it will never work on the current version (3.2.7)
It needs an update to support m2
Can you give me your source on that?
it is linked above
Please read what I am sending you
What do you think of this by doing Duy fastpath
lmao replacing the whole app store app
is this for what, 16.6?
Ios 15.7.3? 🥶
Yea I already asked yesterday
Wont happen cause u need system perms for injection
How to slove this?
Yeah but why would u use altstore if u got trollstore
No it doesn’t?
How to slove this please
I can’t install dolphin in trollstore because it uses jit
Why use altstore tho if u have trollstore
There’s jit enabled dolphin on some reddit for trollstore
Try again ig
It also just kicks me out when ever I try to play a game
i doubt it
Ios 15.7.3
Oh i see which version did u try
Its not supported unless u jailbreak
No because the code signature would be invalid
You can’t just install it
Oh then there is no trollstore 2 for iOS 15.7.3
Whats ur chipset? iOS device
6s
CT bug fixed on iOS 15.7.3?
no
Then why I can’t use trollstore 2?
Ct is available but mdc bug fixed in ios 15.7.3 and ur device doesn’t have kfd so only way to install is jailbreak
3.1.1
Trollstore use ct bug then why iOS 15.7.3 not supported pretty wired
Because trollstore uses exploits like mdc or kfd to INSTALL without them there’s no way to install it unless jb
I also have developer certificate
Ok I gave up
Doesn’t matter
You need to use palera1n, there’s no other way
you can use it
Ok then I will use trollstore 1 with jailbreak
They are same thing
ive been googling for the last half an hour, can someone just put me out of my misery and let me know if my iPhone 14 Pro Max on iOS 17 should just be upgraded? "arm64e devices not supported by kfd currently do not have an install method", does this mean they eventually will?
god, i promise ive been trying to google it, check github issues, searched here and reddit etc
as far as i understand, if i was on a lower iOS i could use Misaka and then upgrade if i wanted? but because im already on 17.0 im stuffed?
im so sorry for asking lmao
I can’t install Tips
There is an exploit (or multiple maybe) that could be used as an install method but it’s not public and/or there’s no PoC code yet
iOS 17 has the trustcore bug, that’s why it’s technically supported
oh sick, ill keep chillin then, i got a little confused with 17.0 saying "No Installation Method" and then another one higher up saying "Coming Soon", assumed that meant "lol get wrecked loser on 17"
And why people delayota to 17 to get ts
this makes a lot of sense, thanks for filling in the blanks for me!!
anyone know ipas for icon packs
I can’t install tips though 
It says cannot connect to appstore even though i am not using vpn or dns
Fuck ios 17
try restarting ur phone
I did
Ios 16.1.1 so u can do this
o shit check that your time and date is set correctly too
Nope
set date and time to automatic
it’s even more confusing for m1/m2 iPads
iOS 17 WEN

Nah this shit rules

It’s set to automatic
fuckin stop, thats the other device i wanted to get trollstore on eventually too lmao
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Bro it’s not supported
actually it is
Stop torturing the M1 chip
try setting dns to 1.1.1.1
Resetting a couple of times
tell us what youve tried and i can give you some more tips homie
Like completely erase
is there a tiktok tweak ipa?
wtf thats nuclear mode ur cray
something like unicorn but modern
It’s an iPad not jail broken A9 and on 16.1.1
i use tiktokrld
idk maybe
im on ios 16.5
i use dev cert atm for my shit
oh oke but it is sideloadable
Mdc wont work without tips
🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
yeeeeeee
it was the only reason i could move back to iOS lmfao, SignTools for the fuckin win
what do you mean?
Try this if you run out of simpler/easier things to try. Annoying to set your shit up again but not nearly as annoying as doing a full restore lol
BHTikTok Plus is pre good too @ember cove
which has the highest tiktok version
cuz tiktoklrd is on a pretty low version i think
what are the rules here
ive been here for fucking years
can i post a github to ipas or naw
Hmm
i dont wanna risk it, but i grab all my shit from a github called TrollStore-IPAs @ember cove
BHTikTok Plus - Tiktok base version update 32.3.0
dunked on
botted bro
get absolutely botted on
mentioning it because it was the only thing short of nuking my phone and restoring that would make delayOTA work. Not same issue but could potentially solve yours
Seeing as it’s likely some kind of weird settings problem
i would even try Network as a first resort
^^probably a good idea lol
I have tried the network thing aswell
i worked for apple for like 3 years so i just hit you with all the basic regular iOS troubleshooting kek
i found this, idk maybe it will work https://www.reddit.com/r/iOSBeta/comments/6vekae/bugs_i_found_a_fix_for_the_cannot_connect_to_app/
Should i just update to 17?
i checked apple status for you too and everything is up
Where were you when we needed the switcher bug
No lol
I think updating to 17 will fix this shit
Not unless you have a persistence set up already
I don’t
fuck, i havent worked there for like 5 years at this point
Then don’t, you’ll regret not having it when you’re there
You don’t have to use tips though, just use another system app
Man apple is always up to wierd shit
am i misreading this? iPad 5th gen hey?
Yeah
https://ios.cfw.guide/get-started/iPad-(5th-generation).html this kinda be saying you can use palera1n?
Find out what jailbreaks you can use on your iPad (5th generation).
ive been so fucking out of this shit for ages, so mb if i give you shit info lmfao
I don’t wanna jailbreak
I always endup messing the device
Nope
damn, understandable. resepect for knowing your limits
I only know my limits while using tech 
Lowkey no offense but I don’t lol
That’s alright
fucking dunked on
I’m happy to help 100%, but if you’re against even considering a jailbreak for fear of blowing your device up then you should probably do more reading and research before you move forward with this. You still have 2ish weeks
I don’t have fear of jailbreaking
It implies to me that your issue is probably simple and something you maybe overlooked
to be fair, my guy has seemed to actually try all the stuff im suggesting so he's been trying to sort it himself
Let me see
im kinda out of ideas.... i would personally try changing dns to 1.1.1.1 if the Reset specifically doesn't work, and maybe try logging in to a different account in the app store only
have you tried another wifi too? who knows, worth a shot
I reset all the settings
In one minute?
Yeah
it sounds like theyve got nothin on the device
The whole phone has to reboot and there’s an Apple logo for like 3 minutes at least lol
Oh wait there is another loading bar
Can we get some photos or screenshots in settings or something
Alright it booted up
is the old fuckin uhhhh
reset app store still a thing?
by ttapping search 10 times?
probably not
Wait uhhh
apparently changing your Language & Region might help?
Your thing by your discord name says dopamine and TrollStore but you only jailbroke once on iOS 12?
Am I getting TrollStore’d rn
absolutely
I actually have successfully done it on ios 12 then i tried it on ios 14 and 15 but failed
did u try the 1.1.1.1 dns
That’s when I learned to not go crazy with the jailbreaking and ended up messing up with the device on ios 14/15
i gotta go do some house shit, sorry i couldnt help out ghost
Holy shit it’s working
The reset settings thing worked
keystone can you help me downgrade my iPhone 14 Pro Max now too please tthanks xoxox
I thought downgrading wasn’t possible
its not, im memeing bigtime
Oh
#BringBackPurpleRestore
It is possible actually, all you gotta do is smash your phone with a hammer 17 times then plug in and hope the exploit triggers
use hammerjb 
I wanna go back to ios 17
make sure to click Reset All Settings first
hammerspl0it
im gonna go post a rememberance photo in #general
well guess i'll be back if/when my phone and iPad can be updated lmao
see yall in like 6 months or smth
What’s that?
apple internal tool
Where can i find this?
you cant use it
Why not
that's why it's classified as "internal"
because you have to log into apple's internal vpn
And where can i find this internal vpn?
god im so sorry, i was just memeing
Why are employees getting this
it happens
And not the ones who are paying
not every employee gets full access to it
just a little funny jokey joke
Oh how can i forget it’s apple
is it okay if i post the link to the iphone wiki's article on it for Ghost?
It’s always upto some shit
sure
yeah how dare they want to protect trade secrets
they still use purplerestore
Fuck apple
its less front of house/genius now and more back end dev though, no? @near osprey
i think so
when i was working for apple, nobody i knew even had any idea about the purple tools oof
but ill digress, v sorry mods lol didnt mean to sidetrack this channel
somethin somethin EU regulations save us
What old iPhones?
apple will not care about some random petition
That’s ancient
Your right
What about arm64e?
Nah not after apple raped my wallet
Guess i have to stick with altstore
Can i use altdaemon?
well only if you have blobs
buy a dev cert, spin up signtools, ota ipa installation ftw
How did everyone miss this for so long it was in our faces the entire time
I aint buying shit
Wtf i never thought of that
Not for you, more for @frosty eagle since they showed back up lol
About some shit we were talking about earlier
How do i use altdaemon
well it is only temporary
since presumably the apps are just loaded in ram
are you jailbroken
Nah
cant use it then
Temporary is… usually more than enough for a lot of things
Fantastic 
yeah but i mean like it’d probably only last a day or so
Probably should turn off developer mode
WHAT? EXPIRED APPS WORKED FROM APP SWITCHER?
Read this chat from around midnight and you’ll know what I’m talking about lol
Same to you LOL
My iPhone is useless for side loading unless i get free certification
Dude my sidestore app just expired I couldve not waste 20 minutes loading up laptop and sideloading after deleting 1 app
Why?
Stuck on 17.1.1
I’m just waiting for apple to fuck up another coretrust
might be waiting a long time then
Using side sidestore is a pain
Does anyone know the filza method of removing expiry date on tvos profile
Or a way of breaking the directory where ios updates are DLed
I swear i did this along time ago like ios 9 days
Ios 18 or 19 it will return lol
that wont work
Yeah got no choice
i wish it was easy enough to just return
Really
I swear i broke the update directory years ago somehow
But it was old ios
Jailbroken too ig
Not gonna use sidestore cause it’s unstable
This software update available notification is annoying
Yeah
@near osprey what is everyone talking about
Didn’t even see this ping sorry
Yeah it’s just one set of checks that I’d assume iOS thinks have already passed if it’s in the app switcher
But running them every time you open the app from app switcher would be inefficient maybe?
Can anyone tell if it is possible to duplicate apps in Trollstore?
https://www.reddit. com/r/jailbreak/comments/187zk25/tutorial_upgrade_to_ios_17_from_ios_1561_and/
omfg it worked
im on ios17.0 and trollstore2 still works
I was wondering the same thing
i dont beleive so, i cant install a spotify ipa if spotify is installed do to same location name
but i could be wrong
You can’t have two apps with the same bundle ID
If you change the bundle ID it should be fine
cannot reproduce
@indigo flame
well let me test it with an app store app
maybe it hates free signed apps
time to install gta car tracker on the app store 
you can use anything
i tried it on a random test copy of kfd i had
it didn't crash, but it just got stuck on a black screen
yea it worked with gta car tracker first try
Download Esign
change the bundle
And share it to ts
Get any free certificates even if it revoked it works
aaaauuuuuuggggghhhh all I want is trollstore on m2
I did that with the Instagram app. I have two accounts. And you can’t use both. Even trying two installed apps
Yes. One installed by the app store and the other modified
um
what
do you have any specific references in mind, because besides from the code that modified supervision, all of the other stuff should be changed to TrollInstallerMDC
app name, bundle ID, etc
When I log in with an account in each other, it automatically enters the same account
i guess in the ipa and stuff it's still named Supervise
Hey
Does anyone know why UTM actually use up more ram than allocated?
i have a 16gb ipad pro
i allocate like 4gigs to a vm
with no other apps open
and it crashes with memory fully used
ios 15 /mdc?
antoine trollstore, created with nebula's deb to ipa
Delayota ip 13 PM, app switcher method.
how do you get that latest software allowed message
I think it appears when the device is supervised
Maybe try KillMyOta by haxi if you're anywhere between 15.0 - 16.1.2
Oh..
block certain apple domains using dns
there will be a new profile
there is a new profile
apple just broke it
the cert expires before the profile does
need to set your date back after dec 14 to install it
what’s the point. can’t access internet
once it installs you can revert it
wat
but that won’t help
because after 14 it has to expire anyway
the expiration of the new profile is 2025
where is the new profile
To block OTA updates, you can install a modified tvOS beta profile. This works even without a jailbreak. Note that the profile expires and will stop blocking updates on <t:1738299600:D> (<t:1738299600:R>).
If you are met with an error trying to install the profile after <t:1702530000:D>, you can get around this by setting your device’s date back to a point before <t:1702530000:D> and trying to install the profile again, after it is installed you can set your device’s time back to normal and it will continue blocking updates until the scheduled expiration date.
You can re-enable updates by uninstalling this profile in Settings -> General -> Profiles & Device Management.
If you're jailbroken, you can also install the OTADisabler tweak instead, but note that it is harder to remove while unjailbroken.
wake up babe, new ota profile just dropped
nice i already have it
so i’m good until 2025
by then we might get a jailbreak
or not
is this tvOS 17 profile?
I'm editing the tag on palera1n server rn
ok it's tvOS 17 then
legend lol
on non-kfd versions, not yet
The link above downloads the profile that expires this year. Where is the link for the new profile?
This one?
I installed it and now it shows 17.1.2 now available notification, OTA is seemingly still blocked (showing installed as latest), do I have to worry about it?
is it just me or does anyone else have issues with notifs?
like youtube notifs didn't work yesterday but then it asked for notif permissions AGAIN
I am following the steps to install trollstore after I click install trollstore in misaka the phone respringed without seeing any "TIPS"
And after that I wasnt able to click install anymore
Does Trollnonce work with trollstore 2?
I’m I supposed to receive notifications when I install an ipa using Trollstore?
Yes
Like how
No
Hello guys
Why not? (What if I say pretty please?)
Hey, can I install trollstore on an iPhone 14 Plus on iOS 16.5.1?
Not yet
Can I get TrollStore on 16.7.2?
Sad
I am not at the part whre I click on Tips it resprings but when I open tips I dont see any install trollstore
Am I doing something wrong?
Not supported I guess different exploits. Something was patched
Can I guys?
Pretty please?
I cant seem to get my device to do OTAdelay
It won’t show me the ios 17
My device is already supervised
Does notifications only work on certain apps?
Notifications work on apps
Thank you
For?
Wdym
I’m trying to do OTAdelay but it can’t see the iOS 17 update
Just the latest one
I already installed the profile and still nothing
Don’t know nothing about that
no
what profile did you install
Damnnnnnn 🙄
yeah fr ong you update to latest and wonder why you cant have trollstore 
Yeah
You can’t even sideload no more using 17.1
Fr
I installed AltStore than I tried to sideload an app but it only went half way
skill issue
did you toggle supervise
😭
imagine using altstore 😦
Yes
try rebooting
Bet
Nah it’s my second phone that I have iOS 17.1 installed 🤦♂️ and I can’t sideload
hey do you guys know what luxiyama is talking about? I've tried installing TrollHelper and TrollStore in Jbroken mode but Helper disappearred along side Cydia, Store stopped working after I restore my RootFS
Still nothing @stone wraith
Any help here everytime I try to install trollstore with misaka phone just reboots
@dusty atlas delayota problem look at it fr
what phone and ios
Ios 16.3.1 and xs
Okay after the reboot I rebooted it again myself and did install tips
But now Tips crashes each time I open
...
fits its name
Yes thats what I did
@stone wraith Do I uninstall tips? and install again and than try misaka again?
Or keep the Tips that crashes and try misaka install again?
reinstall everything
did this happen to you too?
can I install trollstore in jb and then still keep it in jailed mode?
took me 2 hours yep
do I also uninstall and install misaka again?
ios 16.3.1 and xs
Yes I do
what method are u using
I just keep uninstalling and installing tips than
yes
Is there a method for iOS 16.6 A13?
Can you elaborate on it? I've installed Helper and Store in jb but after I restore rootfs, store stopped working and helper disappeared along side cydia
which jailbreak are you using
i'm unc0ver on 14.8 atm
14.8 on A10 chip so it's not possible atm
then you definitely don't have an A10 chip, unc0ver doesn't support A10 iOS 14.8
wait, iphone 7+ isn't A10 chip?
iphone 7 is A10
you must have a different phone
or forgot which version and you're actually on 14.3 or lower
oh ye mb i'm actually on 14.2
sorry for being misunderstanding
ok
try jailbreaking again and downloading TrollStore Helper again and register persistence helper to Tips instead of standalone
last time I checked, it didn't actually let people do that, but maybe it's different now with 2.0
if that doesn't work the next option that should definitely work is sshrd_script since you can install persistence directly into Tips without jailbreaking at all
Shell script that creates a ssh ramdisk. Contribute to verygenericname/SSHRD_Script development by creating an account on GitHub.
how can you register persistence as tips though? after I got store, the persistence option in settings is "Helper installed as Standalone app"
it's default and i cant change it
What to do after getting trollstore 
u install apps from ipa ig
Yeah but were can i get legit ipas from
oh
Certain open source apps have ipas on github otherwise youre on your own for that
Alright
@stone wraith Rebooting did the trick
use palera1n
How to get trollstore on iOS 12
you don’t
e
my phone came with 16.6😩
I think you can download misaka and do it from there
If I’m not mistaken but I could be wrong
I am trying to overwrite tips in misaka with persistence helper but everytime I do that misaka just crashes
Wait what???
And how did you get trollstore?
You were on the beta?
Through misaka
We’re you on 16.6 beta ?
This is what I used to make it work
Nevermind I lied I was on 16.5 sorry for the misinformation
What version where you? 16.6 beta?
😩
Haha
No problem
I’m sorry didn’t mean to get your hopes up I had to look at my photos to see what iOS I was on
Yea haha
I thought for one sec there was a way (I knew there wasn’t)
Yeah I apologize but support for iOS 17 is coming for trollstore
OTAdelay for iOS 17 doesn’t stop getting signed till 12/19
yeah, that's what I thought, I guess your best option then is sshrd_script
i'm high on copium but are there any alternatives on Windows?
Anyone can help is there another way to install trollstore?
actually, I just had an idea
What iOS and device
ios 16.3.1 and xs
I tried rebooting but after I open tips it just crashes
let's hear it then
I trie to overwrite in file manager with persistence helper but after I click to overwrite misaka crashes
Try reinstalling tips overwrite and don’t reboot and open it
And don’t open tips till you overwrite
Okay so dont reboot even when overwritten because the tutorial said to reboot after that
How many times did you try that
a few
Don’t hurt to try without rebooting then
Nope still nothing when I open the tips app its the normall app
also the problem when I overwrite misaka crashes
It still crashed even after you fresh install tips?
yes
I assume the overwriting failed
so there's a method floating around to manually install persistence helper into Tips that's mainly suggested for 16.2, but it probably works on iOS 14. Probably -- maybe make a backup first. Install Filza however you like, then do all these steps with Filza instead of Misaka file manager. Also, your force reboot button combo is different, just hold volume down + power
Has it always been crashing even with the reboot method lol
That PersistenceHelper_Embedded is the one from TrollStore github https://github.com/opa334/TrollStore/releases/tag/2.0.8
It crashes for me with every method I tried (tips app)
idk if that has something to do with the version of misaka?
Should I try an older version?
Also, the steps on overwriting the file aren't the same -- don't follow these instructions to the letter, follow the general method
Are you on the latest?
nah im an idiot i had an iphone 12 mini on 16.00 and i updated 😢
yeah
Pretty sure I saw someone say 3.2.4 worked for them
I try that than
Guys any news about 16.6.1?
Didnt work nothing works
@harsh merlin what youre device and whats youre ios version
does anyone know where the state of the app switcher is stored in files
XS 16.3.1
Yeah and same for tips
iOS 16.3.1, xs
rn I'm at the overwrite app step
should I delete the Tips.app file and rename my Embedded file to Tips.app?
Since so much has happened in the last week, I am going to host another twitter circle similar to last week. If any developers want to join in and talk about stuff, feel free to reply to this.
I will cover delay ota, tweaks, helium, install methods, etc
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bruh
what
nevermind then
oh
I woke up at like 2 AM

that explains why I confused it
Can’t on iOS 16.7.w
@harsh merlin https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/s/qrJuleRZQN
I don’t have troll store?
Is it possible to change font on Trollstore iOS 17?
Not sure if WDBFont Overwrite works
@harsh merlinYou have to know if your device accepts the Trollstore and then you must download Misaka and from there you can download the Trollstore.
what do you think you're replying to
I need help
How likely is it for TrollStore to ever work on M2 iPads?
No
You can’t do 90% of jb’ing without a pc
don't delete Tips.app, delete the Tips binary file inside Tips.app
How?
you're screwed aka fucked
i told you what the other option is, it's palera1n
so there's the Tips.app file
and then I open it
if there were a secret second option I'd tell you but there's not
Re-read the sentence.
You CAN’T do 90% of jailbreaking without a pc.
that highlighted file is what you should replace yes
should I rename the embedded file to Tips?
I don't recall the embedded file to have an extension
can u use trollstore on ios 16
Exact version?
rename to Tips
16.7
No
k
alright imma give it a shot
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DelayOTA is mainly used for companies to upgrade to versions more later than usual, these guides just help normal users achieve the same thing.
Note
- You cannot downgrade using DelayOTA
- You can find what DelayOTA versions are available here
- This won't work if you futurerestored with a SEP that's newer than the version you're trying to go to.
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I know all that alredy
alright so now the Tips apps, Cydia and Filza are all crashing after reboot, but TrollStore is still fine
this is good progress
lemme try restore rootfs
It does for me
oh
wait wait wait before rootfs
don'r do it
@cobalt oriole
i wanna check file permissions
I am talking about myself I am not jailbroken
i'm talking to toska
dw i can do it again
alr lol
wdym by that
after you get filza back, tap on the Tips you added and make sure everything in the red circle matches exactly
like it should be 'cause I've replaced the tips app file with a foreign file (which only works when u r jbroken)
alright
actually also tell me whether the owner/group _installd/_installd matches too, i'm wondering about that as well
well it doesnt works sadly
i will do it all over again
now it's just "Unable to Install TrollStore"
rip
so did Tips open and not work, or did it not open
or did this happen while installing TrollStore Helper
before I restore rootfs, it just crashes on sight
afterwards, it shows that I have to update the app
did you look at the file permissions
no I didn't
@spring helm could you help me out you seem knowledgeable about this stuff
is your tips crashing
Can i install tips as an ipa?
Yes so first I use misaka I click on install troll store but than it reboots but after the reboot I can click install troll store and than tips after respring tips crashes
idk
I deleted tips
the misaka method is kinda ass anyways
True
What method should I use?
I am using the mdc method
idk how to reset the state and "try again" either, reinstalling from app store might be enough but it might not
Painless so far
on 16.2+ A12+ misaka is your only option
Link to steps?
Owh
[reply to a deleted message] i mean maybe but it costs money 
the dev got banned from this discord for stealing open-source code and selling it for money
Misaka method is crappy
I thought I was free
For a bait
Wow
I guess there is no hope
How about try to erase
dev made it free for 2 days, it has since been 3 days
Then try it again
Ahh
Erase phone settings??
guys
Lol
im trynna download pojavlauncher in my jailbroken iphone
with trollstore
and it says network connection was lost
do i need to activate JIT
network connection was lost
or does trollstore already have it activated
Why can’t we just install troll store directly?
oof
you need an exploit to do that
Ands that’s what misaka does?
yes
I meant why isn’t there a app directly to click install troll store and that uses the exploit directly? Instead of this work around with misaka
Yeah
oh
That won’t do
welll
Should that be possible?
If your having trouble with tips then try resetting all settings
trollstore 2 is still pretty new, and it's likely a good dedicated installer will be made soon
someone already made a dedicated installer using MDC and it's very reliable
Ahh okay
Harder?
Fr mdc method is painless
Got it
like it requires offsets, and success rate is just terrible on some devices
And is there a reason iOS 16.2+ doesn’t use mdc?
mdc was patched in 16.2
MDC is the name of the exploit?
Trollinstallermdc
MDC as in MacDirtyCow
Really?
That name is still funny to this day
where COW refers to "copy-on-write"
Okay..
but the name has led to some cow puns and such and such 
Fr funny af
Makes sense
Good thing i can still use the mdc method 
Good thing I can get fucked on 16.5.1 
hey, so about the permissions
all of them are missing execute
should I add execute to all of them?
yeah
I said just the red circle at first but yeah try changing mobile to _installd for both
i wasn't sure if _installd wouldn't show up so i didn't mention it at first
imma try reboot first
alright so after reboot
"Tips" needs to be updated
what is the correct output here? should Tips open as Trollstore helper?
maybe iOS just realized there's something wrong with the file, delete it and try again
yes
wait
maybe
it's because 14.2 doesn't support trollhelper
is that a possibility?
MDC dudes chilling 

the new coretrust exploit is supposed to work all the way down to 14.0
but i guess it's possible something weird changed
it was worth a shot I guess
MDC dudes chilling in the corner 

Tips was always dead
at this point with all this effort it's probably less work to create a linux live boot usb and use sshrd_script
does 3.2.8 kdf now work on m1?
no idea about fixing tips though 
wait linux can be booted from the usb?
i thought that i have to install a whole ass OS
Many jailbreak/iOS tools may require macOS or Linux. If you have a Windows computer you can "live-boot" Linux which allows you to boot (start your PC) into a Linux system directly off a USB flash drive/stick or a SD card without even affecting your main OS ('partition').
To get started, you will need a 8GB+ USB stick and a PC with secure boot disabled.
Disabling Secure Boot
We suggest you use Ubuntu as it's one of the most beginner-friendly distros.
- Download BalenaEtcher for your current OS.
- Download the Ubuntu installation file (.iso file) of your choice.
- Plug your USB stick.
- Open BalenaEtcher, and select the Ubuntu .iso file you just downloaded.
WARNING: "burning" an image WILL erase the USB stick and permanently delete all data. Please make a backup. - Select the USB device you will install Ubuntu on.
- Click 'Flash'.
- After operation is finished, you may boot from it.
Please check your PC manufacturer's details on how to boot from USB devices.
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yeah liveboot is certainly easier than installing an OS but it's still kind of a hassle for windows users cause you gotta mess around in bios
but if trying to get the manual install working is this annoying i suppose it'd be less work to just live boot
it's okay, i've managed to install arch linux twice, shouldn't be a problem
We never know
A11 i think, I’m on iPhone 8 plus
Jb
Google and tell
Well it has passcode and dont wanna reset
As far as i know A11 has an installation vector for trollstore2 on ios 17
@compact mural Then no luck
Rip
What all chipsets support ios 17?
?
What all chipsets can update to ios 17
all A12+ devices plus these four iPads only (A10 and A10X) can get iOS/iPadOS 17

