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finite void
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I couldn't tell you for certain given specifics but check in your /var/ for certain assets and such

bright river
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Is this a problem I can fix?

finite void
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rejailbreak

scenic night
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!repo chariz

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scenic night
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Add this repo

finite void
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that's another good one

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though honestly I only use developer features most of the time so I don't know many stores

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yeah

bright river
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Hmm already had that repo

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ws.hbang.alderis led me to that repo

meager glade
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Is it normal when I shut down my phone and turn it on, and instead of an apple logo showing up, my phone just acts like a respring? Taurine says that I'm still jailbroken

bright river
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But still can’t install

halcyon cairn
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Not trying to get banned for this, so plz forgive me. But how do you know a repo is a pirate repo? There's of course, a way of seeing paid tweaks on the repo, but is there any other way of telling?

scenic night
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Sileo gives warning and theres [[isecureios]]

lusty tapir
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[[isecureos]]

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A security application for Jailbroken iOS Devices, created by GeoSn0w (@FCE365).

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halcyon cairn
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Thanks for that ^^

bright river
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Thanks @scenic night

ashen needle
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ooh okay any genius tryna walk me through the fix for this

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got time now

scenic night
ashen needle
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homie said to do "go into a text editor and change the postinst or prerm to #!/bin/bash"

meager glade
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hey guys sorry if this is a noob question. Is it normal in Taurine that when I shut down my phone, it's not really shutting down and instead it just resprings my phone?

I was trying to do a restore rootfs and Taurine still says I'm jailbroken.

ashen needle
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but idk how

hollow jasper
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hey

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anyone awake?

cold wind
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hey i jailbroke my iphone 11 in ios 13.5 and i am trying to update to ios 14 but when i try it says it cant update
it wont let me update on itunes or on my phone

ashen needle
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no were asleep

bright river
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@scenic night yeah, had to install Adonis color picker first but yes.

scenic night
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Ah nice

cold wind
ashen needle
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@scenic night yk how to do what cam said

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?

ashen needle
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recently posted on the sub

scenic night
dire swallow
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I just downloaded repo in sileo and was wondering how to run the tweak

ashen needle
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to fix julioverne script or sum

scenic night
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Oh if you download the deb then you can change the scripts

meager glade
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I can't go through "Verifying update..." is the server still overloaded?

ashen needle
scenic night
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Yeah get the deb

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You can also try navigating to the path in the error the change it

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But idk

ashen needle
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u tryna send me a deb lmao

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dont got any other devices

scenic night
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[[flipconvert]]

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scenic night
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Get it from parcility

ashen needle
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oh parcility has deb of the tweks

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?

bronze sedge
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I'm having some issues jailbreaking an iPhone 6S on iOS 13.4.5 Beta

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It's saying it's already jailbroken..

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I did jailbreak this phone back on iOS 11 but cydia just doesnt open since it updated I assume

ashen needle
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open in filza?

scenic night
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Yeah

ashen needle
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ight

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then wut

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like wheres text editor or wt

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wtv

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to "go into a text editor and change the postinst or prerm to #!/bin/bash"

charred cove
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is it normal for softwrae update to sit at preparing update for a while?

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on 13.5 right now trying to update to 14.3

dire swallow
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How do you use a tweak that edits the home screen when ever I try it does nothing

hasty igloo
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yo i have a dumb question,
is it possible to have both cydia and sileo? if so, is it a good idea?

tepid delta
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Yes it’s possible depending on jailbreak

ashen needle
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@sick lynx you tryna help me out with "go into a text editor and change the postinst or prerm to #!/bin/bash". got the deb in filza

sick lynx
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with

ashen needle
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edited^

sick lynx
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oh yes

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search the bundle id of the broke tweak

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and find it’s postinst and preinst

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or whatever files are attached to it

ashen needle
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ahh how does one know the bundleid of the broken tweak

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flipconvert

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oh nvm just searched flipconvert

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i stupid

ashen needle
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postint and postrm

ember pendant
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did you fix it

sick lynx
charred cove
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used unc0ver to jailbreak it had no errors says will reboot. its been stuck on white apple logo for past 15 mins holding both volume keys and power does nothing

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how can i fix this?

abstract moon
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I can't Install FlashBack depend So Question is Another Backup Solution ? or How do succeed install ??

sick lynx
abstract moon
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that's old

sick lynx
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what

abstract moon
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Nevermind

mild crag
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Ventana isn’t working for me on 10.3.3

abstract moon
sick lynx
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your head

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all backup tweaks suck

abstract moon
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I can memorize tweak names, But can I backup the settings files?

sick lynx
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why would you need to do that?

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they don’t go away unless you’re fully restoring

abstract moon
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Oh ok thanks for info

sick lynx
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in the scenario where you would be restoring you could copy all those plists (none apple) and then zip them up

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then chuck them in icloud or something

abstract moon
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In Filza got it I can find file path

grim drift
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hey guys. so i installed this TweakManager tweak and i accidentally selected a profile that disables the file that allows me to see installed tweaks in settings (forgot the name) Now when I open TweakManager, it just auto closes. How can I undo this change?

ashen needle
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dont see text editor or wtv

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oh

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open with

sick lynx
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you have to change the default viewer

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yeah

ashen needle
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?

sick lynx
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or that

ashen needle
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kk opened

sick lynx
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now look at the top

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it probably says #!/bin/sh right

ashen needle
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yeah its #!/bin/sh

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guessing thats no bueno

sick lynx
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the sh should be bash

ashen needle
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so just change both

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and try uninstalling?

sick lynx
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if you’re uninstalling just change prerm

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postinst won’t really matter

ashen needle
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kk ill try it

ashen needle
sick lynx
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yeah that’s what i meant

ashen needle
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ahh alr

ashen needle
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thanks for the help

charred cove
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i removed the device profile after updating to 14.3 but my settings app still says my iphone is supervised and managed

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how do i get rid of that

graceful herald
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Reinstall mybloxx and then uninstall it

charred cove
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awesome thanks

burnt socket
# ember pendant did you fix it

Nah I just gave up the tweak causing the instability was Kalm as it’s not longer supported on iOS 12. Thank you so much @finite void and the jailbreak community y’all are dedicated and great

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I just restored and re jail broke on 12

ember pendant
grim drift
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eyy im doing the MyBloxx trick to update to 14.3 and right now in the update page, it says "Update requested" is this normal to take a bit long?

finite void
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sometimes it will also download the OTA update twice

grim drift
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thank you. im currently updating it. pogggggg

finite void
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you think it's done and it isn't usually

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Is iOS 12.2 compatible with Sandcastle?

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Whatever I'll find out

white owl
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anyone knows how the fuck can i uninstall this

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sudo apt remove doesnt work

torn owl
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Seems like dpkg fucked up

white owl
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yes im aware

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but only this tweak is broken

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other stuff work fine

torn owl
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Try refreshing the repo...

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This might not work...

white owl
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there’s no repo

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i installed from filza

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fuck

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did i brick my jb again

torn owl
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I has the error but it was an repo error that caused dpkg but idk how to fix this...

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Also do you own a Mac lol?

white owl
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no

torn owl
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Can u edit a .car file for me?

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Ow rip

white owl
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sorry i dont own one

torn owl
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Nvm

placid dragon
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bro

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cant u just download a theme engine for windows

torn owl
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You can’t...

white owl
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no dpkg is broken

torn owl
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You can’t Edit .car files like that they are complied bro

placid dragon
torn owl
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The only way is on Mac lol, there might be ways to extract it online and re-compile it...

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Honestly I wish they add a custom theme option

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It’s seriously annoying...

boreal cosmos
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I tried downloading a tweak and it glitched and made my phone restart. now every time i try to re-jailbreak my iphone it crashes again what should i do?

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I also tried connecting through ssh but it said connection refused

torn owl
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Rootfs....,

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And re-jailbreak

boreal cosmos
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what is that

torn owl
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What jailbreak are u using?

boreal cosmos
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unc0ver

torn owl
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Hmm

chilly pecan
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u0 version?

boreal cosmos
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how do i check?

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6.1.2

chilly pecan
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Bottom in app

boreal cosmos
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i found it

torn owl
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Click on the cog wheel

boreal cosmos
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ok

torn owl
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And enable restore root-fs

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I h8 autocorrect

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Lol

boreal cosmos
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ok i did it what does that do?

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llol

torn owl
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Ok now go back

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Do you see roof-fs?

boreal cosmos
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yes but what does it do

torn owl
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It basically removes the jailbreak

boreal cosmos
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so would i have to reinstall everything?

torn owl
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You will lose your tweaks tho,

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Ye

boreal cosmos
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ok

torn owl
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Also use batchomatic to save your tweaks after you installed them...

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It would save time... (If something like this ever happened)

boreal cosmos
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ok

chilly pecan
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Batchomatic isn't recommended to use

wide inlet
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Is there a way to restore without losing data? Because I can’t restore my data after I restored the phone

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What

chilly pecan
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iTunes backup

torn owl
wide inlet
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I restored my phone from itunes with downloaded IPA and then I can’t restore my data because itunes detected my phone as a new device

torn owl
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Wait non jailbroken?

wide inlet
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It is jailbroken back then

torn owl
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You want to restore without losing data?

wide inlet
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I want to jailbreak my phone again but is there a solution when I want to remove the jailbreak and kept my data

wide inlet
chilly pecan
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What iOS version are you on?

torn owl
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If you want to just remove the jailbreak you can restore rootfs, if you want to reset your phone and get back the data create a backup...

wide inlet
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I tried to restore rootfs but the game still detect that my phone is jailbroken

torn owl
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Owww

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Get a jb detection bypass lol

wide inlet
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Where do you reset the phone? Settings?

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It’s not working mate, if it’s working i wouldn’t remove my jailbreak back then

torn owl
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Are you using Taurine?

wide inlet
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Checkrain

torn owl
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Eh, rip in Taurine you have libhooker configurator you could remove the detection using that

wide inlet
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Never heard of Taurine

torn owl
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What version?

wide inlet
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Oh also I’m not jailbroken atm

torn owl
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iOS.. 14?

wide inlet
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I’m at 14.4 I think it’s not available for my device right?

torn owl
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Oof, rip

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There are different bypass tweaks I’m not really aware of them..., you could now create a backup of your tweaks using batchomatic but when your not jailbroken you could play the game

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You should be able to play the game now I think...

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Your not jailbroken right?

wide inlet
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Yep

torn owl
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Try playing the game...

wide inlet
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Wdym?

torn owl
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If your not jailbroken it won’t detect...

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I think,,,

wide inlet
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I’m just asking how to restore my phone without losing my data

chilly pecan
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It will, if you still have jb files left

torn owl
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It’s in settings

wide inlet
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Yeah I did created a backup

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Restored my phone via iTunes and it detected as a new device so there’s no way to restore my data

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Do you mean “erase all content and settings”?

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That’s how to clear a jailbreak without restoring the phone?

finite void
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I wonder what's next? I'm sure I am not supposed to keep waiting here?

torn owl
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Wait it is restoring basically

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It just removed everything

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And you can install the backup...

wide inlet
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If it doesn’t detect the phone as a new device then good

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Sadly when you restore from itunes, my device got detected as a new device and i cannot restore the backup lol

boreal cosmos
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I tried downloading a tweak and it glitched and made my phone restart. now every time i try to re-jailbreak my iphone it crashes again what should i do? I tried to restore rootfs but that didnt work my version is 6.1.2

chilly pecan
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v6.1.2 is kind of buggy in my opinion

boreal cosmos
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is there any fix or a different way to jailbreak

finite void
wide inlet
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What’s the best way to prevent data loss?

proper cedar
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why does my phone randomly power off after jailbreaking to 14.3?

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it will be at like 25%

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and poof

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power off

gentle fable
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I’m on iOS 14.3 Xr and was wondering if I could update my Apple Watch series 5 on 6.2.8 to 7.3.3 on a spare phone and then pair back to the 14.3 device

fathom oyster
elfin hollow
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guys why can’t i restore rootfs using taurine?

royal abyss
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Can any genius tell me if watchOS 7.3.3 is compatible with iOS 14.3

finite void
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This happens when trying to update to 14.3 from 13.5 with no blobs

royal abyss
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Did you follow the steps

finite void
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Yes

royal abyss
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@finite void

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Did you ldrestart?

finite void
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No

royal abyss
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If you don’t know how to, use power selector

finite void
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Will that reset my jailbreak

royal abyss
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No.

elfin hollow
elfin hollow
royal abyss
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I’m gonna be a guinea pig

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For 7.3.3

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@elfin hollow he’s asking if ldrestart will reset his jb

elfin hollow
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also @royal abyss i done some research and found that watchos 7 is compatible with ios 14 but dont do anything just yet because that statement is a bit too broad

elfin hollow
royal abyss
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Yeah I’m on 7.3.1, so I’m not too worried

elfin hollow
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okay

finite void
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Where can I find power selector?

elfin hollow
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is the apple watch worth it?

royal abyss
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The thing is, he needs step by step guidance, so I’m not tryna rush him into that yet lol

elfin hollow
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ohh okY

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okay*

royal abyss
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Ichitaso’s repo

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In Cydia

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@elfin hollow I like my series 5. It’s nice, especially when I’m at work. But I don’t really use it otherwise. I say if you can get one for $250 or less, especially a 5, then it would be worth getting it

finite void
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I ran ld restart and the update page is still the same

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I finally figured it out

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Thanks for helping @royal abyss

royal abyss
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What was the problem?

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And no problem lol

finite void
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I accidentally changed a setting in mybloxxx

narrow finch
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is there a way to force delete an invalid repo?

fathom oyster
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make a local backup using itunes then setup a new iphone as normal, there should eventually be an option to use a backup to set up the new iphone

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"restore from mac or pc"

inner hare
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Do we need to backup our device to use the blobless update method? I would prefer to start over as a new device if it’s possible.

tepid delta
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You don’t have to

inner hare
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Sick, thanks

candid current
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Hi, i updated to 14.3 on my iphone, i just jailbroken it and installed zebra and installer
zebra works but installer does not
i tried the beta and the non beta, what can i do?

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i’m on checkra1n btw

tender goblet
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no idea I only use sileo and CLI

candid current
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the weird part is that i have an ipad with 14.3 on it and it is also on checkra1n and installer works fine on it

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i did a rootfs and a restore before jail breaking on the iphone so no issue from that end

warm flame
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I updated to ios 14.3 yesterday. But now whenever i access control centre in landscape mode it doesnt work. Anybody know the reason?

tepid delta
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Are you using the same tweaks

warm flame
tepid delta
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Are you sure they are all 14 compatible

warm flame
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I guess i will disable and check

tepid delta
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You might want to disable one by one and see if it starts working

brittle vale
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Hey! I just found the new update method in the subreddit. Can someone clarify a few things for me please?

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Does it work for iPad os? I plan to change to Taurine from uncover if it does

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Do I lose my tweaks and repos? Can i export them in a list somehow?

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Is resetting necesarry or can i keep my apps

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A12x 13.5 latest uncover atm

tepid delta
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It should work on all device who have 14.3

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Yes it will wipe everything

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Yes you can export them ahead of doing this

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If it says optional it’s optional

brittle vale
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@tepid delta thanks! Any recommendation for a tweak to export the repos and tweaklist?

tepid delta
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What package manager are you using

brittle vale
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Cydia

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Is the switch to Taurine worth it btw? Been using uncover since forever, but generally read great things about it

tepid delta
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I believe so

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With cydia you can use [[flame]]

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Flame

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brittle vale
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Thanks! Fingers crossed

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Flame gives me this error^^:/

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Nvm its needlessly complicated but mailed it to myself.

brittle vale
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So i presigned Taurine ipa restored rootfs twice, enabled ota updates and disabled load tweaks in uncover. After installing the update i can safely delete the profile right? And just jailbreak with Taurine

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Sorry for so many questions but im really bad when it comes to stuff like thisuff

mossy grove
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Yes, if the update shows and you are in a rootfs state, then go ahead and update.

brittle vale
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Update is installing👍🏻 tyty

mossy grove
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Nice.

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Just remember in the future to never update to a new version while jailbroken. Always rootfs before updating.

brittle vale
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Noted thank you

gloomy timber
fathom oyster
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Try ReProvision

hybrid light
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Does checkra1n block updates?

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Trying to update to 14.3 on a friends phone running 13.7 and it says no updates available

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The profile is installed and everything

hybrid light
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iphone 7

finite void
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Bruh

hybrid light
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iPhone 7, iOS 13.7

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Using checkra1n

finite void
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Just update to the latest ios

hybrid light
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They want to use taurine

finite void
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Fucking autocorrect

finite void
scenic night
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Ehh id stay on 13.7 rather than the latest

finite void
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Why

scenic night
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Semi untethered

finite void
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Checkra1n better

scenic night
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But having a way to jb without pc as a backup is even better imo

finite void
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nah

scenic night
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Either way save blobs

finite void
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Just use puck

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taurine on A10 and below disgusts me

hybrid light
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They don't have blobs, less experienced

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They want to try taurine/semi-untether on ios 14.X

finite void
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Just tell them to use orain

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Taurine doesnt come close to it

fierce fractal
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@finite void @hybrid light y'all realize they can use both

scenic night
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Ota updating isn't working for them

fierce fractal
scenic night
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finite void
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Use puck

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Simple

scenic night
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That's not the only issue...

finite void
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What else would cause your jb to die

fierce fractal
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kernel panic

finite void
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On ora1n?

fierce fractal
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bad tweak

fierce fractal
finite void
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doubt

crystal leaf
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For a while im busy with mybloxx, the thing is i have everything setup i can download the update 14.3 en instal it, but when i got the boot logo with the proces bar it crashes after 10 sec 😅 any ideas?

delicate aurora
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I unfortunately keep running into this after clicking “Install now” and the “Verifying Update” screen. iPhone 8+ on 11.3.1, futurerestore has never touched the device. I’ve even tried a fresh wipe and redoing the process, never run into issues until it tries to verify

graceful herald
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Just keep trying

crystal leaf
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Im so close to get get my device updated, it only crashes when its installing the new software in the boot

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What can i do ?

spare sparrow
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This has probably been asked a million times but I can't find a solution. I'm trying to update but I'm stuck on "preparing update". I've hard rest and deleted the download file multiple times as well as let it sit for four hours. Nothing seems to help, any ideas?

brittle vale
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I deleted the delayed update profile after jailbreaking with Taurine. This message wasnt there in 13.5. Does this trigger regardless of what profile i have active? I do have one but this is the first time im seeing this "warning"

scenic night
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reinstall mybloxx and then uninstall it

graceful herald
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Why ppl hate that message

elfin hollow
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ig its a perfectionist thing cz it bothered me for a while at the start but u just get used to it

bronze sedge
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I'm trying to restore rootfs on Taurine after updating to 14.3. Im stuck here though.

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It just rebooted and told me to go back into Taurine, but it seems as if it's restarting the process the process again

graceful herald
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Why jb u use previously

bronze sedge
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On iOS 13?

graceful herald
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Yes

bronze sedge
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Odyssey, I'm not 100% sure though. I've had tons of issues with this phone

graceful herald
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Try restore rootfs with u0

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Then jb with taurine

bronze sedge
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Alright one second

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Last time I tried that I think I got an error, but I'll try again

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How long should it be sitting at Exploiting Kernel? It's been a solid 1 - 2 minutes.

graceful herald
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Wait why u jbing lol

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Restore Rootfs

bronze sedge
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I pressed restore rootfs

graceful herald
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Oh OK

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Then reboot and see if u still have cydia or sileo

bronze sedge
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I don't.

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Try with Taurine now?

graceful herald
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Yes

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Just jb

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Not rfs

bronze sedge
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Got it

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One sec

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Does it normally say restoring rootfs on unc0ver? I find it odd it said jailbreaking

graceful herald
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Yes

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Lol

bronze sedge
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Been on here for a little while

graceful herald
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Have to wait

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Taurine takes a while

bronze sedge
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Just making sure. 👍

graceful herald
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Even for my X

bronze sedge
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I think it's working now

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It's installing sileo and stuff its saying

elfin hollow
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u have ota updates turned on and am jailbroken using u0

graceful herald
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Ok it's good

bronze sedge
graceful herald
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That's good

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Splash screen means success

elfin hollow
bronze sedge
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Wow I can't believe it worked. I've been trying all night and earlier today. Lmao. I tried literally everything

graceful herald
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easy u0 rfs

bronze sedge
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My 7 worked flawlessly

elfin hollow
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maybe i should install the mybloxx profile too

bronze sedge
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What's it showing?

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Like when you go to update

graceful herald
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So it worked or?

elfin hollow
graceful herald
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Sileo?

bronze sedge
graceful herald
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OK

elfin hollow
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oh wait i shutdown the phone i forgot sorry im gonna try again

bronze sedge
elfin hollow
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i love sileo i used to use it bsck during the chimera days and i got it using taurine

bronze sedge
#

Now I have a homekit server 🙂 without buying an Apple tv

elfin hollow
#

what does that do?

bronze sedge
#

Homekit remote access

#

Like being able to turn off wifi and access homekit

#

And automations

elfin hollow
#

oh damn that sounds

wispy warren
#

When I have vnodebypass enabled, I can't see my tweaks in the settings app, is this normal or is there a way to fix this? I'm on Taurine (with libKernRW) + IOS 14.3

scenic night
#

normal

#

vnode disables tweak injection system wide or smth

graceful herald
#

Sileo and cydia don't open either

#

Does kern work on 14?

scenic night
#

checkra1n only

graceful herald
#

Rip pogo

wispy warren
scenic night
#

yeah

#

i think theres a cc toggle for it but im not too sure

wispy warren
#

Hm, i'll look into that, thank you again

#

I wouldn't worry about it tbh, I updated and then got rid of it straight after

#

It feels really nice to go from 13.5 to 14.3 and essentially rebuild a setup

stark barn
#

Has anyone encounter TSSSaver with the message "error reading generator" in the generator tab? iPhone SE (1st gen) with checkra1n

app was installed with https://repo.1conan.com/

scenic night
#

what jailbreak

stark barn
scenic night
#

oh you need to set a generator first

fathom oyster
#

use dimentio or sm

stark barn
scenic night
#

doesnt matter youre al a11 and lower

#

also those blobs arent usable rn

stark barn
#

This device is iPhone SE (1st gen). I guess it's okay if the blobs don't work cause I won;t be restoring back to an older firmware anyways

finite void
#

How do I fix it?

#

Would anyone know how to rootFS with h3lix? It doesn't have a built in cmd to do it

scenic night
#

i believe it uses cydia eraser

finite void
#

I'm not sure where that would be because it only has one option

#

And that's to jailbreak it

stark barn
#

[[Cydia Eraser]]

vernal basinBOT
#
Cydia Eraser

specific utility to unjailbreak most devices

Author

Jay Freeman (saurik)

Version

0.9.43

Price

Free

Bundle ID

com.saurik.impactor

More Info
rain ferry
#

does anyone have a good free jailbreaking app for apple tv 3 7.6.2

finite void
finite void
#

Anyone knows what's the latest version of Instagram does Rocket support without having any broken features?

drifting quarry
#

I just jailbroke my iPhone 11 Pro Max from iOS 13.5 to iOS 14.3...now when I turn my phone to landscape mode, the icons are so tiny that I can’t see them. Is this normal? Is there a way to fix this?

scenic night
#

!t tweaklist

vernal basinBOT
# scenic night !t tweaklist
tweaklist

Sileo/Zebra/Installer:

Select the Packages tab and then tap Share/Export at the top. Copy then post here and send the link.

Cydia:

Screen record the Installed tab and upload here. If the video is too large for Discord upload here.

native gale
#

@unique rapids i'd use term

#

also, why are you deleting it?

#

no i get that.. but is that interfering with anything besides your OCD?

#

i believe that without that file, iCleaner wouldn't function properly

edgy totem
#

Has anyone else had an issue where sometimes when they receive calls when their phone was asleep, the screen will be blurred and they can’t interact with the call?

#

I can’t get it to reproduce manually but I swear to god every time I leave my phone and my mother or father calls me, the screen will be heavily blurred but I can’t touch the slider to pickup

#

My first thought is Shortlook since it blurs the screen when notifications come up but I’m unsure

#

It’s happened on both jailbreaks so I think it’s a tweak

native gale
#

tweak list? also what jb?

edgy totem
#

Taurine 1.0.3 and gimme one sec

native gale
#

screen recording is best

#

don't type it out

edgy totem
#

It’s extremely long due to Sileo exporting them all so let me put it on pb

#

Oh ok

#

20 second video but 42MB -.- give me a sec

#

In case you’d like a text form

native gale
#

anything that's installed for lower ios versions can conflict

#

like bloard

#

or half

tranquil badger
#

Any geniuses available?

#

<@&355177530061357057>

#

I was just wondering if there’s any easy way to downgrade to 14.4 from 14.5 or if I’m better off waiting

scenic night
#

itunes restore to 14.4.2

tranquil badger
#

Is there a YouTube tutorial that can teach my stupid ass how to do that?

coral apex
tranquil badger
#

Thanks king

scenic night
#

do note that restoring will wipe youre phone and itunes backup wont be usable

#

icloud backup may work

tranquil badger
#

Is there a more stable option? One that won’t cause my iTunes backup to break?

scenic night
#

nope

coral apex
finite void
#

hey so i've been trying the my bloxx ota method but agter restoring rootfs when i try to check for an update it gives me unable to check for updates

tranquil badger
coral apex
#

press the update button in itunes instead of restore

tranquil badger
#

And just update to 14.4?

chilly pecan
#

14.4.2

#

14.4 isn’t signed anymore

tranquil badger
#

Idk, I think I might just wait for a 14.5 jb to come out

idle sequoia
#

hey whenever i try to upgrade essential packages, the installer errors out at Sub-process /usr/libexc/cydia/cydo returned an error code (2) im using checkrain btw *nvm solved

vocal basin
#

Any idea?

wintry raven
#

apps are stuck downloading

#

:/

#

@native gale

#

need it to help a aunt

#

its apple support app

native gale
#

ok?

native gale
wintry raven
#

it says waiting

native gale
#

screenshot?

wintry raven
#

on home screen

native gale
#

very interesting

#

@fallow dust I found the wallpaper that best matches your work with batchomatic

#

@wintry raven tweak list?

wintry raven
native gale
wintry raven
#

shes whit my dad shopping like thats going to happen :/

native gale
#

@wintry raven not a tweak list

#

!t tweaklist

vernal basinBOT
# native gale !t tweaklist
tweaklist

Sileo/Zebra/Installer:

Select the Packages tab and then tap Share/Export at the top. Copy then post here and send the link.

Cydia:

Screen record the Installed tab and upload here. If the video is too large for Discord upload here.

wintry raven
#

ok

#

0bin taking its time on my phone :/

verbal estuary
#

guys what are jb detection bypass tweaks rn? (for google pay/paytm) im on ios 14.3

wintry raven
#

Pls hurry mate shes calling me through her apple watch

wary estuary
#

Ok KeyboardColor tweak messed up Sileo for me when I tried to update. Now I cannot respring or do anything with Sileo 😦

#

Does anyone know how to fix this?

#

Which one should I delete?

wintry raven
#

@native gale any ideas?

native gale
#

@wary estuary sileo

wintry raven
wary estuary
#

Delete sileo.sources?

native gale
#

yes

wintry raven
#

Bye ill get help somewhere else

wary estuary
#

Will it screw up anything?

native gale
#

that'll fix your issue

wintry raven
native gale
native gale
wary estuary
#

Ok thanks. It must be some error between odyssey and taurine probably

#

But now I can’t reinstall in Sileo 😦

#

How do I fix this? Do I have to reboot and rejailbreak every time?

#

Oh wait, it deleted all my repos when I did that

native gale
#

i'd restore root fs and rejb

#

then it'll reinstall all the sources

wary estuary
#

I can just readd the repos back. It kept all the tweaks

scenic night
#

did you delete the entire sources file

wary estuary
#

Yes

native gale
#

it's prolly still in trash

scenic night
#

retrieve the sources file and just open it and delete the first repo in the list

wary estuary
#

No. There is a major problem with Keyboard Color and the packix repo. It screws everything else up

scenic night
#

keyboard color uhh

#

how did it screw things up

wary estuary
#

I will record a short video

#

I cannot even reinstall stuff

scenic night
#

well did you remove the duplicate repo

wary estuary
#

I do not think it is a duplicate repo

scenic night
#

bruh just delete the first repo on the sources list

#

or restore rootfs

wary estuary
#

Rootfs is my last resort

#

It literally takes me 3 days to reinstall and find all my tweaks

#

Ya, it is the packix repo. It screws up the whole jailbreak

scenic night
#

its because it was a duplicate entry...

#

nothing is wrong with packix

wary estuary
#

Can you please tell me where the duplicate entry is? In sileo? Filza?

#

Is it the repo or tweak?

scenic night
wary estuary
#

Sorry if it is obvious, but I do not see it

scenic night
#

the sources file, open it, and delete the first repo, save and close

wary estuary
#

I did that and it did not fix it. The only problem was the packix repo. If I delete it, it works fine. Deletion of repo = deletion of newest update. So, if I keep it, it messes things up

#

But also I cannot reinstall any tweak too. So it deleted that option

#

So Sileo is broken and I cannot even install Cydia. So I guess I have to rootfs

finite void
#

I jailbroke my iphone 8 14.4.2 and when i restart my phone all my jb apps like cydia or zebra crash immediately when they open

#

the only soulution i have found is to rejailbreak every time

tepid delta
#

thats normal

#

rejailbreak

finite void
tepid delta
#

yes

finite void
#

it doesnt do that on unc0ver

tepid delta
#

it does

glacial flax
#

It also does that

finite void
#

it doesnt on my iphone 7

#

anyway ok thx

tepid delta
#

Every current jailbreak is semi untethered or semi tethered. By definition it does it

scenic night
finite void
#

also using u0 on A10 and below is absolutely disgusting

finite void
#

can you send a video or some shit

#

its dead

#

and idk where it is lol

finite void
tepid delta
#

The 3rd party app store doesnt change how the jailbreak or the exploit rather functions

gloomy timber
#

How I can fix it?

charred cove
#

Having issues with Siri not working and control center volume bugged

#

Volume says it’s muted but it’s not . Can’t change volume with the control center

tepid delta
#

Do you have any tweaks involving volume? Does it work normally with tweaks disabled?

#

or in stock

finite void
#

I’m try to do that and it keeps freezing

charred cove
tepid delta
#

Im not entirely sure about that, I dont use unc0ver. I would suggest seeing if things work normally without tweaks or in stock. If so disable your tweaks one by one with icleaner pro until it stops to isolate the troublesome tweak

open prawn
#

i think im stuck on apple logo, am i just fucked and have to restore

wary estuary
#

If I am stuck on the apple logo after I hit jailbreak, does it mean I have a bad tweak?

#

I have to force reboot my phone every time

open prawn
#

thats what im starting to think cuz i think im having a similar issue

charred cove
#

You can use a program to force it to recovery then out of recovery that will fix the white apple logo

toxic meteor
#

Anyone able to help me get from ipad pro 11 on 13.5 to 14.3? My unc0ver shit itself and I need someone with a bit more knowledge

native gale
#

stay away from 14

toxic meteor
#

im just trying to keep everything on 14.3 soooo LUL @native gale

native gale
#

trust me, you want a device on lower

#

in the event that 14 screws you over.. you've got a device to fall back on

toxic meteor
#

i already have things on 14.3 stable so im not worried

#

but oh well cant get help here rn i guess

native gale
#

I'm trying to help you obtain a backup plan

open prawn
#

why must this always happen to me

#

can i fix this or is it just another rip

scenic night
#

just dont use the backup

open prawn
#

its my only back up

fathom totem
#

Used that dumb ota shit

#

Now this shit happens to my ipad everytime i try to restore rootfs

scenic night
#

restore rootfs with u0 and then jailbreak with taurine

fathom totem
#

Doesnt even let me get into jailbroken state

#

Done that

#

Didnt work

#

It said error restoring root fs or whatever

#

Error while restoring root filesystem or whatever

#

On unc0ver

#

And doesnt let me jailbreak with taurine whatsoever

#

Nor with unc0ver

scenic night
#

i assume taurine isnt letting you restore rootfs either

fathom totem
#

No.

#

I just need to get into the jailbroken state once

#

Just ONCE

#

To get this stupid supervised shit off

#

But nope

#

Why the fuck does taurine think im fucking jailbroken

#

What do i even do in this situation im legit fucked lol

#

Do i delete the profilee?

#

All of a suddden chats silent :/

sonic vigil
#

com.opa334.libundirect what is this?

fathom totem
#

Idfk?

sonic vigil
#

It’s a dependency I’m missing for that mybloxxx tweak

scenic night
#

its on bigboss

sonic vigil
#

ok

#

I don’t see it @scenic night

#

im gonna try doing it when jailbreaking with taurine

wary estuary
#

@scenic night @native gale Ok, so it is definitely a problem with Keyboard Color. They have a major bug in their code where it somehow it installs it twice in like 2 different locations. It installs in in /var/dpkg/info which screws everything up. I would love to fix it, but the dev is unreachable

scenic night
#

It was already an overpriced tweak but it also causes issues troll

wary estuary
#

But so worth it IMO!

sonic vigil
#

i was able to get it taken care of with taurine and sileo @scenic night thank you

sharp otter
#

Hello friends

#

I’m new on the group

#

I have a problem trying going 13.0 to 14.3

#

Error trying to install iOS 14.3

#

Someone can help me ?

native gale
#

@sharp otter you don't need 14.3

dire swallow
#

Anyone know how to fix this it is with sorry low battery

sharp otter
#

@native gale why??

native gale
#

'cause 13 is stable af

native gale
dire swallow
native gale
#

!t tweaklist

vernal basinBOT
# native gale !t tweaklist
tweaklist

Sileo/Zebra/Installer:

Select the Packages tab and then tap Share/Export at the top. Copy then post here and send the link.

Cydia:

Screen record the Installed tab and upload here. If the video is too large for Discord upload here.

dire swallow
#

Thanks but 0 bin isn’t loading

#

What should I use instead?

chilly stag
#

I can't get repovisionreborn to work, it has either just gotten stuck at 30% or stuck at 60%. tried reinstalling cant seem to get it to work

fathom oyster
#

Is there an error message @chilly stag

#

you should check if you’ve used up all your certificates

chilly stag
#

no error message and ive tried revoking my certificates

#

just never progresses past 30% or 60%

fathom oyster
#

try logging in again

chilly stag
#

yeah tried that too

fathom oyster
#

what are you trying to sign

chilly stag
#

unc0ver

fathom oyster
#

try reinstalling it using the add button in reprovision

chilly stag
#

tried that as well, got stuck at 30%

fathom oyster
#

hmm lemme try on mine

chilly stag
#

i was using regular repovison and it was working resigning altstore and unc0ver and then i updated both and cant get them to resign in repovision

fathom oyster
#

you should remove altstore now that you have reprovision

chilly stag
#

i just kept it in case something went wrong i could reinstall it, but i guess i can get rid of it

fathom oyster
#

also I'm not sure what's causing it if there's no error sorry :

#

either revoke your cert again (including reprovision's) and/or change your apple id password

chilly stag
#

yeah no error, i tried reinstalling unc0ver through repovision and its stuck at 30% again but ill let it go to see if ever gives me an error

#

or just swap to altdaemon or w/e its called

dire swallow
native gale
#

huh?

#

why do you need 0 bin?

dire swallow
native gale
#

just record your tweak list

dire swallow
#

Ok

native gale
#

@dire swallow record your package manager list bruh

warped garnet
#

I have two packages that need updating but they are conflicting

#

Anyone know what I should do?

#

sileo doesn’t show those packages need updating

#

Okay thanks man

simple stag
#

Can anyone in here lend me any advice?

#

I’ve tried rebooting, reinstalling the profile, installing OTAEnabler, but nothing works

warped garnet
#

user space reboot

pine drift
#

Hello! I have updated to 14.3 from 13.5 Xs-max and all the process was smooth. But after I jb on 14.3 with unc0ver my photo app is all blurry, can’t open wallpaper settings, can’t open attache photo in insta whatsapp etc. can anyone help me?

#

If I successfully updated to 14.3 can I reinstall it again 14.3 via same method ?

dense silo
#

Keep getting an error message and cant jailbreak even when load tweaks is off

native gale
simple stag
#

XS

rain tendon
#

i need help

#

my iphone is having a bootloop i just installed a tweak then my cydia crashed then the bootloop started to happen

simple stag
native gale
#

you didn't answer the Q

simple stag
#

Yeah I said XS

#

I’ve never futurerestored either

#

I even just tried restoring RootFS

simple stag
native gale
#

did you install mybloxx?

stray yacht
#

How do I fix this

native gale
#

@stray yacht how'd you install unc0ver?

stray yacht
#

AltStore

native gale
#

then reboot and retry

stray yacht
#

I did

#

And that was the error

simple stag
native gale
#

and did you spoof?

stray yacht
#

Could it be because I changed the root password?

simple stag
#

It says my device is supervised in settings, but if I have to do something else to spoof I did not do it

#

@native gale is there anything I need to do besides installing the tweak and installing the profile?

stray yacht
#

Here’s the other error

#

Ima just erase all content and settings

native gale
#

nope

#

try restore root fs with taurine

#

@stray yacht

stray yacht
#

Alright

native gale
simple stag
finite void
#

i hope this is the right channel, im trying to install snapbreak but as soon as i install it it crashes my springboard, ive tried restarting the Springboard but that doesnt change anything. (Iphone 7, iOS 14.3)

native gale
#

@simple stagyup.. first pic

#

"remove supervision"

simple stag
#

Oh I thought that just removed the message for aesthetics

pine drift
#

@native gale u0- 6.1.2

simple stag
native gale
native gale
simple stag
#

It just removed the message

native gale
#

okay.. so now you can try doing it

simple stag
native gale
#

no, using the ota method

#

you need not supervise

simple stag
#

I just see the 14.4.2 update

native gale
#

tap on the "update to 14.3" in the tweak

simple stag
#

It just installed the profile

#

But nothing changed

#

Still shows the 14.4.2 update, even after rebooting

pine drift
#

@native gale from unc0ver.dev and clicked on open in altstore

simple stag
stray yacht
#

It worked @native gale but I’m just gonna reset everything. Everything’s fucked

native gale
stray yacht
#

Yeah I have

#

How do you know 100% if you have restored root fs

native gale
#

you don't really know for sure.. it's when the jailbreak app doesn't error

stray yacht
#

You mean when they are no longer there?

wintry raven
#

<@&355177530061357057> i removed all my piracy tweaks and all but i cant download apps or delete photos :/

finite void
#

does it work when you arent jailbroken?

wintry raven
#

Yes

#

@native gale bruh i got desperate

#

Also i cant jailbreak

#

:(

#

Just freezed while spring boarding

native gale
wintry raven
#

Unc0ver

#

.

native gale
#

restore root fs twice

celest hollow
#

Hi, I am unable to restore rootFS or jailbreak as it consistently gets stuck on exploiting resources. Uncover 6.1.2

wintry raven
#

ill do it tmrw

celest hollow
#

Altstore

#

Standard way described on the site

native gale
#

'cause some times it goes screwy with other methods

#

try installing taurine, restore root fs, then try u0

celest hollow
#

Blobless update>restore rootfs>jailbroke>got some weird errors like unable to add cards to wallet>restarted phone>tried to jailbreak again no bueno>tried to rootfs no bueno

versed nymph
#

ok so let's say, theoretically, I had milkyway 2 installed

#

and theoretically, I had clash royale, clash of clans, mario kart tour, an emulator running sm64, snapchat, and among us all running at the same time

#

and, stay with me here, let's pretend that my phone then froze up with only clash of clans and sm64 audio playing

#

which then led me to try and take a screenshot, and then hold the top right of the phone down and press the screen where the respring button would be

native gale
#

@versed nymph would love a tweak list

versed nymph
#

and then let's just say that after that, I tried initiating a shutdown, and then I heard the screenshot sound, the screen went black and purple, and the phone went to a black loading screen

#

and it has been on that screen for 8 minutes

#

I would love to send a tweak list

#

but my phone has been on that screen for 8 minutes

#

after I crashed it trying to make the ultimate shitpost

fathom oyster
#

Just reboot manually

versed nymph
#

I tried that

#

I crashed it so hard it's not

dusky nova
#

I can’t download any apps from AppStore after doing 14.3 upgrade method?

native gale
#

i smell a bootloop

versed nymph
#

why would there be a bootloop

fathom oyster
#

Did it actually seem to reboot? It just takes a long time so try again

native gale
#

because it seems a bad tweak is conflicting

versed nymph
#

I pressed the power button and I then tried the hold down the power button and volume up thing

native gale
#

what device is it?

versed nymph
#

it was after those two things where the screenshot noise sounded (since I had attempted one 10 seconds earlier), and the screen had a frame of corruption, which led to the black loading screen

#

iphone xr

native gale
#

well, you're rebooting wrong

#

!t reboot

vernal basinBOT
# native gale !t reboot
reboot

To reboot devices with a home button, simply follow the button combination:

Press and hold home and power for 15-30 seconds
Wait until the Apple logo appears

To reboot devices without a home button, simply follow the button combination:

Press volume up once
Press volume down once
Press and hold side button for 20-30 seconds until the Apple logo appears

versed nymph
#

it crashed due to ram being filled up

fathom oyster
#

click vol + once,

#

nvm

#

Read last paragraph

versed nymph
#

ok I'll try that

fathom oyster
#

Also who thought up of this combo at apple

native gale
versed nymph
#

I'm thinking that if the screenshot came through that me trying to springboard it blindfolded actually worked

native gale
#

also, rejb with tweaks turned off

#

and screen record your package manager 'installed'

versed nymph
#

it wasn't conflicting tweaks that crashed it

#

it was just me being an utter buffoon and trying to run 7 games at the time

native gale
#

i doubt that very much

#

we can determine the issue with a list

#

gives us an inside look

versed nymph
#

dude I opened drain and it said 23 mb of free ram

#

and then I opened among us

#

but ok

#

I will

#

so does that mean I have to reget altstore and uncover?

#

shouldn't take more than like 2 minutes

native gale
#

no

#

just rejb with u0

versed nymph
#

well I deleted the app after I jailbroke, clearly I wasn't supposed to do that

native gale
#

oof

versed nymph
#

let me just reinstall it real quick then

#

oh and the force reboot worked, thanks for that

#

thought the combo was different 🤦‍♂️

celest hollow
# native gale oof.. blobless

Whats wrong with the blobless update? I was on IOS 13.5 with no blobs haha. No other way than abusing the enterprise delayed updated thing

iron otter
#

Does anyone know if these tweaks are safe? They dont have any description and only show when upgrading apt

#

The lib tweaks I mean

celest hollow
native gale
#

although iSecureOS is sus to me

iron otter
#

So safe to install?

native gale
#

depspite geosn0w stating otherwise...

versed nymph
#

isn't isecureos the scan thing

iron otter
#

What has he said? And yeah its his tweak

versed nymph
#

where it tells you vulnerabilities

#

...ok altstore isn't opening

#

I installed and trusted it

#

uh oh

#

wait, that may have made me go over my 10 app id limits

#

installing altstore

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is that why it's not opening, am I just screwed for a week because I tried to make a dumb shitpost, though, I guess I could try directly sideloading uncover through altserver

fathom oyster
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No your app ids don’t get used up with the same bundleid

versed nymph
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I know

iron otter
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Appsync bypasses the app limit i believe

versed nymph
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none of the app Ids I currently have are altstore though

fathom oyster
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You mean you signed anything but your jb/altstore?

versed nymph
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yeah altstore expired today, uncover didn't though

plain shore
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my snapchat been tripping ever since I installed taurine...? it's not a tweak because I have 2 tweaks installed

versed nymph
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so hopefully directly installing the ipa works

plain shore
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chats don't load and i'm only able to post on my story

fathom oyster
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Once an app Id expires your limit increases again?

versed nymph
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yes

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but that means I need to wait 6 and a half days

fathom oyster
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How do you use up the 10 app ids

versed nymph
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by being extremely inefficient and trying to test stuff

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I installed uncover, can't open it

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I have an app ID for it though

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🤔

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so uh, yeah, every app I installed when jailbroken opens and then immediately crashes before actually loading

fathom oyster
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You should still be able to sign it even if you used up all your appids assuming altstore/your jb is in the list

versed nymph
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I mean I think it's signed since I can open it?

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why is it instantly crashing though

fathom oyster
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then it’s probably not actually signed

versed nymph
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so uh

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what do I do then

fathom oyster
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Use altstore to sign it

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Or i@mean altserver

versed nymph
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altstore does the same thing

fathom oyster
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On the pc

versed nymph
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I did that

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I installed the uncover ipa through altserver

fathom oyster
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Untrust the profile first

versed nymph
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considering there are no apps, when I put uncover on there, the profile was created anew

fathom oyster
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then side load again

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Well that’s how I fixed mine softShrug

versed nymph
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what if I use my old iPad's apple ID

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when signing with altserver

fathom oyster
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You can try

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Sideloading shouldn’t take that long anyway so it won’t hurt to try

pine drift
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I’m updated 14.3 with blobless update and successfully jb unc0ver 6.1.2, can I re upgrade with same method again? As current jb have so many issue. I have jb through uncover.Dev and clicked on open in altstore method.

edgy totem
paper quiver
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i need some help with the uncover jail break could some one help me

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i did it in the altstore to

celest hollow
# native gale 13.5 was golden

So I managed to rootfs restore and I still cannot add cards to my wallet trying to do so either crashes or semi freezes it

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For the bank app, the modal opens and then closes again while for amex it just states it cant make a connection and then I cannot cancel the modal have to force close

prisma surge
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yooo

frozen swallow
prisma surge
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i require assistance

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from my fellow geniuses

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can i use genius bar for hardware related issues

frozen swallow
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no

prisma surge
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there is a hole in my battery bro

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im scared to use my phone

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is it gonna explode

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like it’s a hole but the phone functions perfectly fine with no excessive battery discharge , no extra heat or nothing

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but what if i’m charging that shit in the night and it goes kaboom

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im gg

prisma surge
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or cellular wifi

frozen swallow
prisma surge
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that’s crazy bro u should be a magician frog instead of king frog in yo pfp

small plinth
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I don’t know if being jail broken while doing the blob less update will do anything but I guess fuck it I can’t do anything about it now

rich kernel
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Hello, I'm trying to do the blobless update on my iPad Air 3rd generation but I've been stuck on "Estimating time remaining... Update Requested" for the entire night now.

I've used OTAenabler and I have restored RootFS. I've also repeated the process multiple times before just letting it go on the entire night.

Does anybody have any clue as to what I might be doing wrong?

past venture
covert summit
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Yo is there a tweak for ios13 to get to the ios14 FaceTime thing where you can tab out?

past venture
covert summit
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I did

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It gets the same point across

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Why rewrite exactly what I’m gonna say just differently 😂

sonic vigil
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altstore can you only use your account to sign one devices apps at a time?

finite void
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Hi guys! I’m trying to update my iPhone 8s to iOS 14.3.

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I followed instruction by installing mybloxx and the profile attached

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but checking updates, I just got a massage saying that only administrator user can manage updates

celest hollow
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What guide.

finite void
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Someone has any idea? Thank you all

celest hollow
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What guide.

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Hello? @finite void

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What guide did you use?

finite void
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I tried the one on Reddit, and I followed the link to GitHub too

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But with no success

celest hollow
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This one?

finite void
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Yes, this one too

fallow rose
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Any one that can help me out?

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I just upgraded to iOS 14.3

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(Optional) Rootfs & Erase contents and settings to get a fresh start with whichever iOS version you have right now
Jailbreak your current iOS version
Open package manager and install MyBloXXX from this repo: https://myxxdev.github.io/
Install the attached profile
Check settings and see if iOS 14.3 shows up as an OTA update
Restore RootFS
OTA Update to iOS 14.3
(Optional) Once you're on 14.3 you can erase all contents and settings and then jailbreak!

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Forgot to restore rootfs after installing the profile

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But everything seems to be working, upgrade to 14.3 was finished and I can use it without problems

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Except using Taurine does not work properly

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It does to step 2 of 3 and I get "ehm no-jailbreak" error message

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Sileo is not installed

kind fog
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Is there a way to upgrade to 14.3 on an A14 device?

finite void
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I’m in a bit of a pickle here, I’m jailbroken with checkra1n on iOS 14.4 with an iPad 6 using the no blobs method, I followed all the steps correctly and when I go into updates it says im on the latest firmware allowed by my administrator, so I restored my rootfs and I reset all my settings and and it says the same thing, please help.

royal abyss
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You can’t downgrade. Both of you.