development

[naive kraken]

ah I see

[steady nest]

also smart

[naive kraken]

lol

[steady nest]

capt can you help me understand dyld fixups

allocate in smaller chunks and jump between allocations lmao

no idea fr

[naive kraken]

idk, this whole idea for jb detection won't work out in the end anyways because newer detections use syscall gadgets in system libraries instead using svc 0x80 themselves, and if you overwrite one svc 0x80 they just find another

[steady nest]

lol no

but is it due to size?

hmm

lol

also lol no

i wish i did

yeah i know a bit

[naive kraken]

hmm idk, you'd have to reverse it lol, but I'm unsure if it can even do this

nah that'd never work on a big scale

maybe it just replaces the function with multiple instructions

I'm pretty sure it doesn't support hooking functions that only have a single jump

(but you can try)

yeah idk, e.g. dlopen is a single instruction call in ios 14.1 and because of that I had to hook dlopen_internal in choicy instead

I think this didn't work in either substitute, substrate or libhooker

hmm idk I'm unsure on the specifics

aight idk worst case I could try it

ah btw frida can do this

and that's open source

although understanding it is really difficult

yeah honestly frida devs are just insane or something

it's like the most complicated thing I have ever seen

but it also works wonders

[steady nest]

looks like you’re describing fugu14

[naive kraken]

idk just make a theos project

should just work

[ocean raptor]

Technically none

ldid -e /usr/bin/ldid will tell you what we use though

@grave sparrow iirc frida doesn't work on taurine

[restive ether]

yeah it panics

it needs a policy softener or something

<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>platform-application</key>
<true/>
<key>com.apple.private.security.no-container</key>
<true/>
<key>com.apple.private.skip-library-validation</key>
<true/>
</dict>
</plist>

[restive ether]

add more procursus exclusive ldid extensions

that’s pro’s general xml

[naive kraken]

do a dlopen in the binary

idk lol

maybe your victim is unhookable

hm yeah but it used 3 instructions

yeah but if you have 3 instructions the location of it doesn't really matter, no?

can't the branch back just be another 3 instructions

just copy them and paste them right before the 3 instructions to go back?

[gritty crystal]

yeah @gentle crescent visits sometimes

[naive kraken]

hmmm

yeah true

but how would you even solve that lol

[ornate hamlet]

Will i be able to use private frameworks in xcode

I just added SpringBoardHome.framework into xcode

From theos sdk

Will that work

[tepid olive]

I LOVE XCODE

🙏

[primal perch]

abusive relationship moment

randomly shits itself but yeah we love xcode

[ornate hamlet]

so i added the framework, where can i find the headers

[torpid beacon]

how do i make a popup window with a picker and text input in swift?

[ocean raptor]

Krit's website

[ocean raptor]

UIAltertController

[primal perch]

UIAlterController

[torpid beacon]

yeah, i did. the answers i found are all ios 7 era

[primal perch]

capt try not to edit a message for 5 mins challenge

uialert(1)

[ocean raptor]

I did that in CF in uialert(1)

It wasn't that complicated

[primal perch]

oh yeah fuck i need to update bird poop offsets

i keep putting that off

anyone have game pigeon 2.2.4 binary

[ocean raptor]

https://man.cameronkatri.com/uikittools/uialert.1

[primal perch]

[primal perch]

f

[ocean raptor]

@indigo peak

[primal perch]

man i really gotta load up my SE and jb it

10 mins of my life gone

[indigo peak]

No I don’t

Not jailbroken

I’m assuming offsets are changed @primal perch

[primal perch]

yeah probably

[indigo peak]

woe

[primal perch]

all of mine are method relative the offsets are just hardcoded to load by matching version

so it wont load anyway

giving up?

yeah

fuck bro i dont wanna load up mac to jailbreak this

when checkra1n windows

[ocean raptor]

There is a dude in hack different who has it working

[ocean raptor]

Based off of ra1npoc

Refactor these nuts into your mouth

[restive ether]

finally

your mom in my bed

[ornate hamlet]

does that mean i cant use it

[ocean raptor]

Just remove that

[ornate hamlet]

does that actually work

[ocean raptor]

[ornate hamlet]

framework not found how do i fix

[primal perch]

aaand i forgot how to dump message extension binaries

[ornate hamlet]

/tmp will be writable in ios 15 right?

[ocean raptor]

ofc

[ornate hamlet]

ln -s /var/tmp /tmp

[ocean raptor]

yes

[ornate hamlet]

Also whats the point of usrmerge

[ocean raptor]

> apfs ls 078-29048-013.dmg /tmp
root wheel | LNK | 0 B | 03Mar22 11:37:55 | tmp -> private/var/tmp

see

[ocean raptor]

in debian?

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah

[ocean raptor]

cause they are dumb

[ornate hamlet]

Id like to keep my /usr/bin and /bin seperate

[ocean raptor]

same

that's why I use FreeBSD, they make sane decisions

[ornate hamlet]

My linux was installed before usrmerge

[ocean raptor]

good, I hear they are forcing it nowadays though

even though there was no communication with dpkg about it

[ornate hamlet]

Its not forced

You have to manually run usrmerge

But some distros do it automatically

[ocean raptor]

it will be forced in 12 iirc

if they correctly communicate with guillem

guillem is rightfully against the merge

[ornate hamlet]

Year 3000: rootmerge

Merge /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin

Merge /lib /lib32 /lib64 /usr/*

[gentle grove]

isnt that being done today

[ornate hamlet]

No /bin and /sbin are seperate

[gentle grove]

oh i thought ou meant moving them to usr/

not merging sbn and bin

[ornate hamlet]

/usr/bin and /bin are merged

[ocean raptor]

they are moving everything into /usr/bin and /usr/sbin

[gentle grove]

yes

[gentle grove]

refer to here

[ornate hamlet]

Sudo apt install nuke

Sudo nuke /usr

[ocean raptor]

merging bin and sbin honestly seems like something that Linux people would do

[gentle grove]

true

why dont we just get rid of subdirs

removes so much complexity

[ornate hamlet]

Because of FHS

[gentle grove]

no directories

[ocean raptor]

/ls

[ornate hamlet]

Oh lmao

[ocean raptor]

#! /env zsh

[gentle grove]

every ls command will therefore need to be piped to grep or less

[ornate hamlet]

/grep

[ocean raptor]

a joke

https://man.cameronkatri.com/FreeBSD-13.0/hier.7

FreeBSD actually follows a reasonable layout

[gentle grove]

too bad only 4 people use it

[ocean raptor]

in typical Linux fashion, nobody follows the standards and they try to reinvent the wheel every 2 years

[ocean raptor]

judging by how much mail I get from the mailing lists: way more than 4 people use it

there are more than 4 people on the core team

[gentle grove]

they are 4 very talkative users

[primal perch]

[ocean raptor]

then every couple years there is a new distro that "completely rethought everything" because they basically undid all the new "innovative" ideas that the linux people had

[primal perch]

solution: revive puredarwin

shame it died

or use bsd

damn i really wish valve picked freebsd for all the gaming work

[ocean raptor]

exactly

yes

the last time you asked this

[primal perch]

kek

[ocean raptor]

main

dude

you literally suck at everything procursus

[raw solar]

@ocean raptor why is it giving a runtime error

[ocean raptor]

it's not halal

[raw solar]

how do i bless my code

[ocean raptor]

first of all, your {} are backwards, second of all, dont tab your code all the way to the left

third, don't steal memes from reddit

[raw solar]

😡

[gentle grove]

How are all the braces backwards

[ocean raptor]

arabic is right to left

[vivid dew]

wtf

[gentle grove]

O

[vivid dew]

arabic code

[gentle grove]

Well wait

[hasty ruin]

This is the 3rd time I’ve seen this image today

why

[gentle grove]

Wouldn't it still be the same since the braces should open and close at beginning and end to enclose the block

[ocean raptor]

Left to right english C hello world:

                } ()main int
;("World, Hello")printf
                           {

[ocean raptor]

cause it's funny

[celest quiver]

How did u get unc0ver source code?

[ocean raptor]

@grave sparrow lololololololol GET GOOD!

[hasty ruin]

Is that iOS 15 jb

[raw solar]

جقخوف)تثةةج صحقةي( } قهو فهىث
{ً```

[hasty ruin]

Good

[ocean raptor]

yes

[raw solar]

@ocean raptor دسو عمه قصزثقيث ثواهويثفًهًذكحزثق سوي شيي جفحذهقسهس؟

fuck

auto correct

[raw solar]

can you reverse engineer uncover and add procursus*

[ocean raptor]

not merged, therefor not my problem

no

you are using an unreviewed PR

I didn't review it for a reason

cause I didn't have time/motivation to give it a proper review and identify any of the issues in it

@pearl sail this your fault?

[ocean raptor]

(I'm kidding, I know capt is entirely at fault here)

[ornate hamlet]

@primal perch can you help me decompile

[ocean raptor]

what is it?

[hasty ruin]

e

[primal perch]

e

yea thats some malware dawg

[ornate hamlet]

bruh its so big

[next wadi]

:3

[primal perch]

ida emulator escape and lpe

[hasty ruin]

hate when that happens 😢

[primal perch]

gonna get my drive wiped and my furry porn leaked

[next wadi]

i hope you die in a fire

[hasty ruin]

yooo j dog

[ornate hamlet]

its Filza

[ocean raptor]

like 3 inches?

[hasty ruin]

Die in a fiore

[next wadi]

Never Mind All That

[ornate hamlet]

you can checksum it

[ocean raptor]

[next wadi]

i hope you die in a fire

[primal perch]

i recommend just pirating ida

[hasty ruin]

Why not just pirate ghidra

[ocean raptor]

I definitely did not already dm them a link to it

[primal perch]

java + shit ui + not as good decomp

[next wadi]

government software too complicated

fermi on top

[primal perch]

TRUe

but for being free ghdira is pretty good ig

[ocean raptor]

ghidra literally segfaults java 50% of the time

[primal perch]

ida is just unparalleled

[ocean raptor]

also, the freebsd ghidra port is still 9.1

[primal perch]

it is literally as easy as pressing f5

and getting readable ocde

[hasty ruin]

how much malware is there

[primal perch]

at least some for sure

a small price to pay for 5000$ software

[ocean raptor]

none afaik

I run it in wine

[ornate hamlet]

ida pirates dont even work

[primal perch]

inb4 some dude says wine isnt secure and shouldnt be used as that

but they do

[ornate hamlet]

bruh wine is not an emulator

[primal perch]

my 7.5 copy works just like the real thing

[ornate hamlet]

wine will not keep you safe

[primal perch]

i just cant prove it doent have malware

[hasty ruin]

impossible

[primal perch]

acording to @main apex i have a clean copy though

[ornate hamlet]

wdym

[next wadi]

?

[ornate hamlet]

you have a pirated copy @primal perch ?

[primal perch]

she did some research into the cracks or something and told me that mine didnt (based on the files mine had)

[ornate hamlet]

what

[ocean raptor]

I doubt any of them target FreeBSD

[primal perch]

actually true

[ocean raptor]

also, wine doesn't even work on my computer anymore cause ASLR broke it

[ornate hamlet]

lmao so none of you actually purchased ida?

what

[primal perch]

cynder did

[ocean raptor]

@ornate hamlet that ida link I sent you: you've gotta actually copy the cracked dll into it

[primal perch]

and shmoo

[ornate hamlet]

lmao TIL shepgoba didnt buy ida

[primal perch]

but shmoo left long ago

[ornate hamlet]

what dll

wait i have a question are dlls basically dynamic llibraries

[ocean raptor]

the ones in cracked/

[next wadi]

i kind of

want to make a c project rn.

[tepid olive]

well yeah dll stands for dynamic linked library

[ornate hamlet]

oh

[next wadi]

naur,,,, really?????

[ocean raptor]

do it

[ornate hamlet]

stdio

printf

"hello world"

done

[main apex]

What?

[ornate hamlet]

of ida

[ocean raptor]

➜ cc-run -                  
stdio
printf
"hello world" 
done
<stdin>:1:1: error: unknown type name 'stdio'
stdio
^
<stdin>:2:7: error: expected ';' after top level declarator
printf
      ^
      ;
2 errors generated.

[ornate hamlet]

fuck you

[next wadi]

idk what to make

[ornate hamlet]

#include <stdio.h>

int main() {
  printf("dick\n");
  return 0;
}

@ocean raptor

[primal perch]

werent you the person who dm'd me about some ida crack info

its possible i confused you for someone else

but i swear it was lillie

[ocean raptor]

add the description meta tag to mandoc's man.cgi for me pls. It should contain the first 160 words from the DESCRIPTION section of the man page

thanks

[ornate hamlet]

im pretty sure it wasn't lillie

she was angry when i was talking about piracy once

[next wadi]

[main apex]

No? I don't remember ida pro crack stuff ever, I do have one though myself

[ocean raptor]

it should go right here https://git.cameronkatri.com/mandoc/tree/cgi.c#n383

[primal perch]

hm i probably did mix up something then my bad

[ornate hamlet]

the problem with ida is that its guarenteed somebody will make a crack for it

[next wadi]

how is that a problem

[ocean raptor]

what's the problem with that?

[next wadi]

sorry i dont wanna pay crazy money for a decompiler im gonna use once a week

[ornate hamlet]

theres no /cracked

[next wadi]

[ocean raptor]

there literally is

[ornate hamlet]

no

where is it

in the archive?

[ocean raptor]

yes

binary ninja offers a 75% student discount!

[ornate hamlet]

i see ida.dll

and ida.key

???

[ocean raptor]

yes

[ornate hamlet]

wget -r is a lifesaver

[ocean raptor]

there is literally a 7z

[ornate hamlet]

I have an entire fucking folder filled now

[ocean raptor]

students can get binary ninja for $75

[ornate hamlet]

do i have to use windows

[ocean raptor]

wine

[ornate hamlet]

my wallet is empty

[ornate hamlet]

no way

no fucking way wine will work

[ocean raptor]

@restive ether please ban this person, they are pirating

[ocean raptor]

bro, I literally use FreeBSD

and it worked in wine

[ornate hamlet]

im too scared to download anything

this is a literal .onion

[ornate hamlet]

not like you arent

[ocean raptor]

I would never

[ornate hamlet]

yeah right

at this point im just gonna use ghidra

[ornate hamlet]

fuck windws

@primal perch how do i get an eta of decompile

[primal perch]

i guessed

by looking at the rate of the arrow moving on the top and finishing the functions

[ornate hamlet]

i dont see an arrow

wait is it this one

[primal perch]

when you decompile itll show a smaller arrow on the bottom of that bar

[ornate hamlet]

The tiny orange one?

[primal perch]

yea

[tepid olive]

raise your hand if you paid for ida

not me

[primal perch]

bird poop would not have been possible without pirated ida. lets thank our sponsor

profiting off of stolen goods surely isnt unethical or illegal

[vivid dew]

true

[primal perch]

la pendu

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/763244980495450142/963641776277684274/unknown.png

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[vivid dew]

la pendu

[main apex]

I think the only person in the universe I have seen bought it is Luca (qwertyoruiopz)

[ornate hamlet]

I found a very interesting function in filza

they named their activation function something so obscure

[pearl sail]

partly my fault I am guessing

[tepid olive]

filza crack $$$

[ornate hamlet]

What

[lime pivot]

raise your hand if you paid $40 for Hopper in 2013 and have been using it under the same purchase since

https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/12/duckduckgo-browser-for-macos-in-beta/

good news friends, because we don’t have enough browsers, ddg just gave us another one

it apparently blocks ads before they load “unlike all the major browsers”, except for, ya know, all the ones that do the same thing, which is all of them

[vivid dew]

every demographic will soon have their own chrome fork

[hasty ruin]

I didn’t even know what fractions were in 2013

[grim sparrow]

@silver rampart

[silver rampart]

nyoom

[tepid olive]

_isActivated

did i guess rgith

[steady nest]

the only person on the whole jailbreak community with legit ida

[merry glade]

I think it's normalized to pirate IDA

[merry glade]

Luca also makes hundreds of thousands having that software in his workflow

so

that makes sense

[zenith hatch]

true

[grim sparrow]

pretty much

[merry glade]

wish there was a pirated macOS version

[grim sparrow]

[drifting charm]

jailbreak

[ocean raptor]

no

[tepid olive]

Command line tools

[zenith hatch]

wtf

[ornate hamlet]

No

[tepid olive]

o

[torpid beacon]

what is probably the simplest way to store data in swift even when the app is terminated?

[ocean raptor]

anyone wanna lend me a hopper license

[torpid beacon]

[undone nest]

there is one

(cannot disclose unfortunately)

[tepid olive]

there were many

[merry glade]

wow that's not very bestie material of u

[primal perch]

be less broke

[zenith hatch]

broken people

[ocean raptor]

If I ever need to do reverse engineering regularly I will buy binary ninja, but since I'm not, it's not worth it

[grim sparrow]

No

[primal perch]

with malware though

[zenith hatch]

gm dev chat

[zenith hatch]

????

[torpid beacon]

@grim sparrow what is your recommended method to store simple data when the app is terminated?

[grim sparrow]

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiapplicationdelegate/1623111-applicationwillterminate

[torpid beacon]

sweet thanks

[torpid beacon]

but where/how should i write the data?

json? txt?

[grim sparrow]

userdefaults would work

if its small data

[torpid beacon]

it is

[proper reef]

There is

Also that stupid function is still being stupid

[torpid beacon]

@grim sparrow im using this to define and change UserDefault, but it doesnt seem to work in the simulator. do i need to use it on a physical device?

let userDefaults = UserDefaults.standard
userDefaults.set(account1, forKey: "account1")

[grim sparrow]

userdefaults works fine in the sim

do you get any errors?

[torpid beacon]

i dont think so, ill check the terminal

no error when calling
userDefaults.set(account1, forKey: "account1")

(it gets called on button press)

do i need to call a save function or something?

[ocean raptor]

@lime pivot mdoc.fans or roff.info

[misty cradle]

https://twitter.com/habibipluto/status/1514292499485011982?s=20&t=ZQblHfSy_brAA8G7c5ht7g

habibi pluto (@habibipluto)

Day 1 of my transition from Discord mod to Alpha male

▶ Play video

Twitter · Apr 13, 2022, 5:20 PM

fr

[grim sparrow]

Ok so I forgot that during did terminate memory can’t be changed

[torpid beacon]

Wait so userdefaults won’t work?

[grim sparrow]

Mhm

[torpid beacon]

Damn

[zenith hatch]

use filemanager

[grim sparrow]

Yeah that’s the strat

[steady nest]

how did you do it

[steady nest]

that's so much fucking work lol

[raw solar]

porra

[primal perch]

fair

[zenith hatch]

gm

[ornate hamlet]

is tw3akm8 or tweakm8 better

[primal perch]

deez

[ornate hamlet]

naw tweakm8 is shorter and better

[lime pivot]

none of those scream manpages to me even though ik those are man-related names

[ocean raptor]

what should I do than?

[lime pivot]

you've come to the domain expert

[ocean raptor]

man.cameronkatri.com is too long, and all the good man.tld ones are taken or incredibly expensive

[lime pivot]

go on, do it /s

[ocean raptor]

renews at 1150

[lime pivot]

ikr

gotta make up the money from selling $0.88 domains people buy for a joke and then never renew

[ocean raptor]

man.info is 2500 then only 12 to renew

mancity.one

[lime pivot]

that would be nice but I def wouldn't spend $2500 on a side project domain

[ocean raptor]

same

cause I'm not gonna be putting ads on it or anything

[lime pivot]

I have to be honest with you I think you should

it's tacky, but meh

passive income

[ocean raptor]

found the best one

@restive ether should I get it?

[lime pivot]

men pages

👨

[restive ether]

noooo

[lime pivot]

adult male pages

[restive ether]

why is that a domain

woman.democrats

[ocean raptor]

democrats have a tld too: .qanonpedophile

[restive ether]

qanon.democrats

[lime pivot]

damn they really spend $25k/year for that, wow

[restive ether]

is that legal?

i’m sure some manages have some weird licenses

[ocean raptor]

unsurprisingly, the .republican domain was registered by a rightwing media corp

[lime pivot]

if linux.die.net can rake in ad pennies for manpages from 2006 that keep ranking high on google for some damn reason, I'm gonna say he should be fine lmao

[restive ether]

i’ve never seen a republican domain in my life

gop.republican

[ocean raptor]

would I still get revenue if I place them at the very bottom of the page

[lime pivot]

prolly cause 3/4 of these TLDs are a solution for a problem nobody had

[ocean raptor]

below all the actual manpage content

does it have to actually be on the screen for me to get money?

[lime pivot]

oh man if only I had myshittynewssite.republican instead of myshittynewssite.com

[restive ether]

let everyone know you’re a loser

[restive ether]

time to put them out of business

[ocean raptor]

see I really want man.one but it's $540/y

[lime pivot]

someone else had the same idea

[restive ether]

get a .tk domain and let me know how it goes for you

[ocean raptor]

what is .tk for?

[lime pivot]

people with no money who want their domain stolen from them after a year

[restive ether]

you acquire one, your website gets popular, they take it back and load it with porn ads

it’s super cool

[ocean raptor]

nice

linuxman.info? $12/y

mandoc.dev

$12/y

[lime pivot]

"free domains" where you pay for it by having your audience stolen away from you

[ocean raptor]

mandoc.info $12/y

[lime pivot]

I like that one

damn taken recently

I liked that one

[ocean raptor]

manpages.dev

[lime pivot]

I hate .dev lmao

there are TLDs I just can't understand like .website

like, ok?

what makes .website special

do websites not exist on other tlds

[ocean raptor]

really?

manpages.one $12/y

I really like that one

[lime pivot]

one

[ocean raptor]

cause it's like cat.1

[ornate hamlet]

iama.website

[lime pivot]

man.page would have been killer but it's taken

the good domains are always ones that don't resolve to anything

[ocean raptor]

I could email them...

[lime pivot]

it's whoisguarded but I think email usually still forwards to the owner

[ocean raptor]

I would assume so

cause it looks like it's an autogenerated email

[e-mail]

[lime pivot]

when you do, make sure you stress it's a side project you're just doing for linux users, bla bla that sort of thing

so they don't go alright well give me $1,000,000

[ocean raptor]

Registrant Email: [e-mail]
Registry Admin ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Name: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 1243330155
Admin Organization: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 1243330155
Admin Street: 96 Mowat Ave
Admin City: Toronto
Admin State/Province: ON
Admin Postal Code: M4K 3K1
Admin Country: CA
Admin Phone: [phone]

they only redacted the name?

[lime pivot]

address + number are the whois guard company's details

[ocean raptor]

oh

makes sense

[lime pivot]

if you phone they just tell you to gfy, if you mail it goes straight to the shredder

[ornate hamlet]

lmao

[lime pivot]

well rather the number probably just plays a recorded message and hangs up

[ocean raptor]

I told you

no of course not

no of course not

I plan on updating all the bootstrap packages before the iOS 12 freeze though

[lime pivot]

what a waste of a domain http://linuxman.net/

Ever since I talked my friend Jeff Wall out of this site I haven't been able to provide people with any content due to nature of my current lack of time

[restive ether]

i told you too bozo

[ocean raptor]

when iOS 15 jb comes out, the iOS 12 target on Procursus will be frozen and not recieve package updates (except occasional security fixes)

[vivid dew]

who is this "linux man"

[ocean raptor]

an idiot

[lime pivot]

maybe you can talk to that guy as well

the linux man

[ocean raptor]

there is no email in the whois

except abuse@godaddy

[lime pivot]

bleh

google the guy's name maybe? he said he's on mailing lists

[vivid dew]

but will he read emails

[lime pivot]

can't know till you try

[ornate hamlet]

whats the ios 12 freeze

[ocean raptor]

when iOS 15 jb comes out, the iOS 12 target on Procursus will be frozen and not recieve package updates (except occasional security fixes)

[ornate hamlet]

oh

[lime pivot]

iOS 15 jb is going to make all iOS 12 devices freeze and brick themselves

[primal perch]

penis

[tepid olive]

dammit

why though

[lime pivot]

can we not tie ios 12 to 13 or something like that?

basically make 1500 a symlink to 1600

[restive ether]

there are some minor differences in the sdk but it would probably be fine for the most part

like they added libexpat in 13 i believe

[restive ether]

nerd

patch what

[primal perch]

vibe ok

pretty big slowdown though

relative to the native instruction

[restive ether]

lol

[plush sparrow]

when are you guys gonna have 15.2 for A13+

[restive ether]

man.

[restive ether]

when your mom texts me back

tell her to hurry up

[plush sparrow]

ok

[primal perch]

yeah so like way slower

[plush sparrow]

how its pronounced

:/

oh wait

wrong channel

[restive ether]

reverse apple’s snapshot tool

no

release apfs 10.15.1-1 so i can change the rootfscli instructions to something simpler

@ocean raptor

[ocean raptor]

I already took a look

it's boring

[restive ether]

sad!

[primal perch]

https://tenor.com/view/valorant-skins-burn-money-gif-23095796

[main apex]

Can I use .a files with Theos?

Can I put it in the tweak directory or does it have to be $THEOS/lib?

[ocean raptor]

speaking of which

do you have a jailbroken device?

can you add the testing component to procursus then test snaputil and ncurses for me?

just run aptitude

execute it too obviously

doubt it

yes

[misty cradle]

ok

It can do dis ratio

[ocean raptor]

no

@grim sparrow

how are you developing a jailbreak

just add it to the components

@tepid olive can you test the snaputil update? it's on the testing component of apt.proc

@restive ether remind me to never use zefram

[restive ether]

yeah true

[ocean raptor]

I would rather use unc0ver

@grave sparrow libedit built fine

gmake rebuild-ncurses

actually I may know why that happened

I'll fix it soon

as soon as you test this ncurses update

yes

just run snaputil -l / and snaputil -o and show outputs

[ocean raptor]

.

whenever you say something doesn't work, that's how I know it works

[misty cradle]

yeah true

• I had intercourse with your

[ocean raptor]

and did aptitude execute correctly?

you don't have to reinstall

just run aptitude

not that deep

no

apt doesn't use ncurses

test aptitude

if only corellium allowed me to use procursus easily

then install it

you can use multiple components

[ornate hamlet]

im ripping the appstore button now

AppStore.offerButton is the class

[ocean raptor]

yeah, that's fine

@restive ether why does this guy have genius smh

@grave sparrow pull main and test the ncurses build now

[ornate hamlet]

why not sudo touch /var/lock/aptitude?

[ocean raptor]

actually it's just mkdir -p /var/lock needs to be done during build

I fixed it in main but never pushed to the repo

I blame your custom patches

I have never had that, therefor it is not an issue

[ornate hamlet]

lol

[ocean raptor]

@lime pivot this will fix the man errors. just make sure you have groff installed from procursus

[lime pivot]

ahhh ty

[ocean raptor]

the groff in macOS is too old and the less in mac doesn't support fancy colors

export LESS='-FiMRx2$z-4$Dd+c$Du+g'

[ocean raptor]

(to get beautiful manpages)

[lime pivot]

what changed in the conf exactly?

hahah what the hell is that command line

that's cursed

[ocean raptor]

ik

but it works 🤷‍♂️

not sure why less thought it was a good idea to use $ as a deliminator for flags

[lime pivot]

I use this which has always worked https://github.com/kirb/dotfiles/blob/main/zsh-functions#L32-L42

[ocean raptor]

technically you could expand that to be more readable

that works too

[ocean raptor]

and zstd added to the bottom

[lime pivot]

ah all the procursus stuff

[ocean raptor]

but basically just changed all the groff tools from /usr/bin to /opt/procursus/bin

[lime pivot]

would it make sense for pro to just distribute its own man on macOS?

even though the binary itself won't be anything really any different, except that it'll read /opt/procursus/etc/man.conf instead of /etc/man.conf

[ocean raptor]

we have man-db but it doesn't use /usr/bin/manpath which makes it dumb

also doesn't respect my LESS env var

[lime pivot]

oh does apple's read that?

the man-db

[ocean raptor]

cameron in Procursus at build on  nano-update [+] took 5s 
➜ /opt/procursus/bin/manpath
/opt/procursus/share/man:/usr/share/man:/Library/Apple/usr/share/man

cameron in Procursus at build on  nano-update [+] 
➜ /usr/bin/manpath          
/opt/procursus/share/man:/usr/share/man:/Library/Apple/usr/share/man:/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/share/man:/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/share/man:/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/share/man

that is why I don't use man-db

@lime pivot replace your function with this so that you don't loose it on update

man() {
    env \
        LESS_TERMCAP_mb=$'\e[1;31m' \
        LESS_TERMCAP_md=$'\e[1;31m' \
        LESS_TERMCAP_me=$'\e[0m' \
        LESS_TERMCAP_se=$'\e[0m' \
        LESS_TERMCAP_so=$'\e[1;44;33m' \
        LESS_TERMCAP_ue=$'\e[0m' \
        LESS_TERMCAP_us=$'\e[1;32m' \
        man -C /opt/procursus/etc/man.conf "$@"
}

[lime pivot]

ah that's a good call, thanks

[ocean raptor]

@subtle grail never updates our mac so I don't have to worry about losing the config

> sw_vers            
ProductName:    macOS
ProductVersion: 12.0.1
BuildVersion:   21A559

wait, @subtle grail how do we update the mac? since it has SIP disabled we can't update it normally

[lime pivot]

you can't update without SIP? huh didn't know that

[ocean raptor]

do we have to reenable SIP, update, then disable it again?

[misty cradle]

Happy birthday @restive ether

[ocean raptor]

don't the macstadium people have to enable/disable SIP for us?

[ocean raptor]

yeah, iirc softwareupdate -l isn't showing a macOS update so I would assume that's why

[lime pivot]

[ocean raptor]

remove man_db.conf

[lime pivot]

oh yeah you said remove man-db

[ocean raptor]

oh yeah, that's the issue

you installed man-db which uses a completely different config format

[ornate hamlet]

how do i stop gimp from doing this

[ocean raptor]

don't use gimp

[ornate hamlet]

then what do i use

[ocean raptor]

krita, photoshop

[lime pivot]

pixelmator

[ocean raptor]

hmm

that's weird

it still doesn't work

[lime pivot]

while trying to make the man.conf work I learned I can have man output as postscript

in case you ever wanted to print your manpages, for some reason

[ocean raptor]

yeah

also, it did not work

ohhh

this is weird

ohhh

if it's compressed, it uses groff

if it's uncompressed it uses mandoc

@lime pivot export MAN_USE_MANDOC=N will stop those UNSUPP warnings

https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/man/blob/master/man/src/man.c#L758-L761 ???

[lime pivot]

interesting…

[ocean raptor]

@lime pivot I did something bad

I binary patched the man binary to fix it

the correct way

@lime pivot apply with bspatch

it changes this line https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/man/blob/main/man/src/man.c#L774

[lime pivot]

hah binary patch to man?

[ocean raptor]

from

[lime pivot]

hm

[ocean raptor]

2>&1 >/dev/null to >/dev/null 2>&1

[lime pivot]

can I just set MAN_USE_MANDOC=N or no?

[ocean raptor]

yeah, that works too

[lime pivot]

wait hah

that redirect really doesn't work?

I sorta do sorta don't get that

[ocean raptor]

exactly, some shells are picky about the order of redirects

so since they are redirecting stderr before stdout, it doesn't work

[lime pivot]

it should be running it under sh though… right

I'd assume

[ocean raptor]

but if you redirect stdout then stderr it works

[ocean raptor]

yeah

POSIX sh is picky

bash is not

[lime pivot]

interesting considering /bin/sh is still bash

[ocean raptor]

oh

maybe bash 3 is picky

[lime pivot]

I mean Apple is breaking stuff like removing python2, changing nano to pico, but sh is still bash 3.2

[ocean raptor]

90% sure bash 5.1 is not picky about it

I really wish they didn't use groff at all

and only used mandoc

FreeBSD's man does it nice

it's just a shell script

my manpage coloring stuff doesn't work with groff

only with mandoc

[lime pivot]

interesting

[ocean raptor]

try with bash 5.1

[lime pivot]

zsh has the same behavior, actually

procursus zsh

[ocean raptor]

bash 5.1 acts the same

[lime pivot]

nice

so sounds like it was always broken then

[ocean raptor]

not sure how apple managed to mess that up

➜ bash -c '(echo $BASH_VERSION >&2) 2>&1 >/dev/null'
5.1.16(0)-release

I guess it's a pretty easy mistake to make

if I wanted to submit a patch to fix this, how would I?

I assume they don't review PRs

email [e-mail]?

[lime pivot]

same behavior with Apple bash/sh, pro zsh, and dash on my linux machine

[ocean raptor]

I've emailed them before and they responded

[lime pivot]

you may as well

it's just a bug nobody's ever had to care about before I guess, lmao

probably makes sense to have stderr output just to stderr and not into the pager output, since that's what would happen anyway

[ocean raptor]

this isn't when displaying the manpage

it's when determining whether to use mandoc or groff

so they are only using the return value from it

[lime pivot]

why can't it just always use groff?

[ocean raptor]

cause mandoc is better

[lime pivot]

not even sure what the difference is

felt like I recalled groff being newer but I'll trust your memory better than mine lmao

[ocean raptor]

mandoc is way newer

[lime pivot]

gotcha

[ocean raptor]

mandoc is an OpenBSD project

https://mandoc.bsd.lv/

[lime pivot]

.lv that's a new one to me

[ocean raptor]

mandoc isn't a full troff though

it's only the macros needed to support manpages

in mdoc and man

groff is a much larger project because it is a full troff

https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo

[lime pivot]

wish I had a clue what a troff is or why I want a full one or if I'm ok with a partial one

got no clue why that would have changed

[ocean raptor]

typesetting program

[ocean raptor]

lol

[lime pivot]

that's kind of a pain in the butt

[ocean raptor]

shouldn't they resolve that automatically

[lime pivot]

that conffile change throwing as a conflict

[ocean raptor]

troff is a typesetting thing like TeX

[lime pivot]

esp as the text clearly says "created by you or a script" vs "provided by maintainer" even though I'm pretty certain both are just conffiles

original conffiles*

[ocean raptor]

LaTeX is a macro set for TeX similar to how mdoc and man are macro sets for roff

[lime pivot]

gotcha

[ocean raptor]

ok, sent the patch to [e-mail]

watch them completely ignore it

although, they have emailed me back in the past

[lime pivot]

the like one guy whose side project it is to maintain the opensource stuff thanks you and will get back to you sometime in the current decade

[ocean raptor]

nvm

I forgot that apple rejects my mail

[lime pivot]

hah

try with something like gmail?

[ocean raptor]

yeah, that's what I have to do

[lime pivot]

hope you've got spf/dkim/dmarc set up

[ocean raptor]

I do

everyone likes me except proofpoint

[lime pivot]

that sucks

[ocean raptor]

I've asked them to allow me through before

[lime pivot]

you run your own smtp don't you?

[ocean raptor]

yep

[lime pivot]

because that's something I've vowed to never venture into hah

[ocean raptor]

opensmtpd+dovecot on my FreeBSD server

[ocean raptor]

it's super easy

[lime pivot]

eh I'm sure it is but I don't wanna deal with stuff like my mail not delivering

[ocean raptor]

except when you get blocked for no reason other than not being a multimillion dollar company

[ocean raptor]

any well configured mail server will let you know if your mail wasn't delivered fairly quickly

[lime pivot]

and I'm relying on google workspace for SSO to a bunch of stuff anyway so it's basically free email

free email that I'm paying way too much for

[gentle grove]

that's an oxymoron

[lime pivot]

yeah but I shouldn't need to even get the email about my email not sending

[gentle grove]

just send it, what's the big deal

Is that your age

[lime pivot]

only time I've seen a bounce as of late was when I made a bit of a mess of things transitioning g workspaces (hbang.ws was on the grandfathered free g suite they're about to shut down, RIP)

[ocean raptor]

ok, I'll resend the mail tmrw, rn I'm gonna take a shower at 1:30 am and hope I don't wake anybody up

[gentle grove]

True

I haven't had a bounce on bobamail before, only gmail sending it to spam

No other email service sends it to spam

[lime pivot]

also I gotta be more careful because I really don't feel like having Chariz service emails going to spam because my regular emails are going to spam

[ornate hamlet]

Is there a way i can use classes from other binaries

[primal perch]

if by binaries you mean DSC frameworks or even preference bundles then its pretty easy

executables probably not

[primal perch]

[steady nest]

elderflame vandal ftw

[lime pivot]

ok google can smd

mfw my antiquated business model of blasting annoying ads (slightly louder than we broadcast shows at) for products customers don't want isn't working so I lobby the government to make the world conform to my rules

this sounds like a poorly implemented version of the UK's TV licenses

not that I like that system either

I see no reason why punishing you with 2 mins of unskippable ads would possibly work as an incentive to stop skipping ads

though I’d still imagine ads make more money than billing customers directly, especially as they can tweak ad rates as they please

customers won’t like it if the price keeps changing because it’s based on how much they feel like making this month

although, I have to say, as of late I’ve started coming around to the concept that an ad blocked is actually a sign of respect for the advertisers

it reduces the customer acquisition cost

ie, how many ads you need to pay for till you get 1 customer

problem is more that it’s difficult to make those on the receiving end of ad revenue want to believe that

they don’t care, they just want a bigger number, you can’t make them care because they can’t know the intricacies of who’s really clicking on which types of ads, and then whether they converted (purchased/subscribed to the advertised thing) or not

and because they don’t see it happen, they don’t and honestly can’t care

no ad blockers/skippers/whatever would actually have the effect of hurting business for the advertiser

I don’t even see how they intend to enforce it, if I have an .mp4 recorded from my tuner box then it’s just a stream of images and noises, there’s no such thing as a “here’s where the ads are” marker

only reason why DVR boxes know where the ads are is because there’s usually a dip to black before and after, and the audio gets louder because fuck you for being an honest viewer, I guess

but then I wonder why they needed a law for this? or did I misunderstand and it’s just privately enforced

right

they can figure out a way to do it privately between the TV stations + the DVR brands I’d have assumed

at this point “DVR” means “TV with USB port”

oh this is a smart tv thing I should have said

my Sony Bravia has it

recording stuff exists, you just need to give it somewhere to write them to

I do wonder if it’s just writing .ts files to that drive or if it’s some proprietary encrypted crap

to me it feels like Sony would need to implement that law by using an encrypted format, if they aren’t already

[weary heath]

Solution: use iptv

[grand hawk]

can someone help me make a bash script not for ios and idk anything about this

[zenith hatch]

ok

[raw solar]

ok make bash file first

[grand hawk]

Ill be making ur mom

[raw solar]

noo

[restive ether]

you’d think consider cable TV is already failing they wouldn’t make customers hate them more, yet that’s exactly what they’re doing

cable TV is already pretty fractured, streaming more so

only a matter of time before streaming takes over fully

[primal perch]

@restive ether happy birthday big man

[weary heath]

@restive ether happy birthday big man

[halcyon wigeon]

happy birthday

[misty cradle]

Use RLog from Muirey to test

If you’re using that log app on the max

Mac

I forgor it’s name

[naive kraken]

figure out what process checks that setting and how it reads it, then hook that

probably something uses NSUserDefaults for that

[primal perch]

NSUserDefault modifications writes to system files too

files meant for changing

but persistence isn’t necessarily bad

[ocean raptor]

https://github.com/dlevi309/Sharecuts

[primal perch]

is awesome

yeah it will linger until the app is removed

but you don’t really need to delete the value

it shouldn’t cause any harm unless you’re messing with ones you didn’t make obv

[ocean raptor]

can you load libplist?

get the path of the executable using sysctl then parse the Info.plist

[ocean raptor]

or _NSGetExecutablePath()

@grave sparrow if you can't use _NSGetExecutablePath() or can use the executable_path key from apple[]

how would you get it with CF?

[rapid lion]

those parse the plist 😛

so if you want to avoid those apis

@ocean raptor’s suggestion is pretty much all you have

[snow python]

I know you said don’t ask but I’m really interested what will be causing you to avoid the apis

[ocean raptor]

CFBundleGetMainBundle() uses that

yeah I can't find any other option

[rapid lion]

hmm ok

interesting constraints

you could write your code and run it as an xpc service

[ocean raptor]

_NSGetExecutablePath() is part of dyld, so that saves you some trouble of parsing argv[0]/apple[0]

[rapid lion]

then the trampoline uses that

you’d probably want to use the C XPC apis

most processes are gonna be using libxpc anyway

are you injecting into everything or?

oh yikes lmao

hf

sure you’ll find some weird bugs later down the line haha

fair enough

right

but it uses xpc already?

yeah

but yeah, pretty small impact

[ocean raptor]

I liked it better when I didn't know that

[rapid lion]

yeah, that’s probably a better approach

the substrate approach is just convenient and kinda easy

and not entirely terrible for some uses

but doing it out of process

definitely preferable

tbh

[zenith hatch]

gm

[rapid lion]

well, it’s only inconvenient for you

and yeah

i too enjoy writing xpc services :D

apart from when xpc doesn’t work

shitbag to debug

yup

nice

[zenith hatch]

gm zachary

[ocean raptor]

Those are all CF

Why? Just hook the method that queries the preferences value

Like the tweak I sent you https://github.com/dlevi309/Sharecuts

@interface WFSharingSettings : NSObject
+(BOOL)shortcutFileSharingEnabled;
@end

%hook WFSharingSettings
+(BOOL)shortcutFileSharingEnabled {
return 1;
}
%end

ik

1. preferences aren't necessarily a system file imho
2. hook the method that queries the pref instead of modifying the pref

[zenith hatch]

make it persist

[ocean raptor]

Then just write to the plist

[naive kraken]

@grave sparrow this is what substrate does to get the bundle id https://github.com/opa334/Choicy/blob/master/Tweak.x#L46

(and also what every tweak should do that accesses the bundle id in constructor)

oh lol

added in 1.3 yes

but there is also a springboard class you can call to add a provider for these overwrites

I just never documented it lol

[steady nest]

🥁

[primal perch]

[pearl sail]

The Eggs be cooking in more ways then one that day

[primal perch]

[vivid dew]

uhhh problematic???

[main apex]

I don't know if Theos is drunk but it seems to putting -L as a library and not the directory to look ld: library not found for -l-L./lib/

ld: library not found for -l-Llib/

This is assuming the .a file is in $THEOS/lib?

[grim sparrow]

Funny upside down man

[main apex]

ld: library not found for -lvlc I still get this, the .a is in lib folder in my project root

That worked, now I just have to include other libs for libvlc to work.

@grave sparrow Oh, I might be screwed, Theos on linux doesn't have "___isPlatformVersionAtLeast" and is" ___isOSVersionAtLeast"

They are the @available stuff which doesn't work on theos linux

[zenith hatch]

man

also gm

[main apex]

Thats isOSVersionAtLeast, I would need isPlatformVersionAtLeast and how would I add that to an already compiled .a?

No idea

[vivid dew]

[snow python]

Hi, yes are you ok?

[raw solar]

can someone tell me how to close vs code

im stuck

i’ve been trying to quit for 2 days

[snow python]

:x

[ocean raptor]

Steal the compiler-rt from Xcode

[snow python]

:q!

[raw solar]

not working bro

idk what to do angmore

[snow python]

Close discord, problem solved

[main apex]

Turn it off in discord settings, lol

[pearl sail]

Vi/Vim accident recreated in 2022

[vivid dew]

ok

did you flush the cache

is your sp valid

step back and run the instruction again

if i knew i'd tell ya

this may surprise you but i don't know how to use a computer

no i mean go run the stp again

[primal perch]

skill issue

[vivid dew]

flush your cache

[lone bronze]

so it works like sex panther

[primal perch]

you need rust

undefined behavior

[lone bronze]

@grave sparrow you always working bruh

😂 haha every time i pop in you are just hammering out code

i thought I worked a lot

good luck

[vivid dew]

you should flush either after you're done writing instructions or after you reprotect the page

i'm not sure which (or if it really matters)

[restive ether]

flush your life down a toilet

[edgy mauve]

yes

[restive ether]

yeah true

[vivid dew]

troller

[restive ether]

a trollin license

[pearl sail]

trollhooker

[vivid dew]

i can fix her

[pearl sail]

No help capt fix Zefram

[vivid dew]

[pearl sail]

SAD!

you tell me

fair enough

[ocean raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-read-gif-22252869

[pearl sail]

your age can be your excuse as well

[ocean raptor]

I'm under 18 and can't entire legal contracts, sorry

[ornate hamlet]

how do i create nsuserdefaults to a custom file

e.g. /var/mobile/Library/Preferences/x.plist

for swift it would just be UserDefaults(suiteName:"/path/to/plist") right?

ios

its not working

the file isnt appearing

i forgor to refresh 💀

it works

no....