development

[restive ether]

i was gonna say why didn’t he look in the github but he probably doesn’t know any better

guess he’s more of a fan of tweetmoji zebra than alpha zebra

woe is me

[lime pivot]

he wanted bigger than I think is even on github honestly

biggest there is 180x180 prolly

[restive ether]

is that the ipad icon size

[lime pivot]

iPhone @3x

60x60 @3x

[restive ether]

are ipad icons the same size

[lime pivot]

they're slightly bigger because fuck you I guess

it's like 124x124 (62x62 @2x)

something stupid and somewhat pointless feeling like that

iPad Pro is 167x167 (83.5x83.5 @2x)

I've lost track of which icon size is used where at this point

[restive ether]

springboard struggling to make the images slightly smaller to fit

[lime pivot]

ok never mind iPad is actually 152x152 (76x76 @2x)

so not as pointless

still pointless though cause I swear icon sizes got smaller on iPad

[restive ether]

at least it’s not like some designers i’ve seen

who are using absurdly large images for their themes

causing performance issues

[vivid dew]

real

[primal perch]

dude i need 2048x2048 for reddit

[restive ether]

yeah some dude actually made a theme and the icons were like 2048x2048

[vivid dew]

my theme

[primal perch]

doesn’t it resize the image to what it needs to be at runtime tho

[restive ether]

no

[primal perch]

if nothing else tho that’s still waste disk space

but at least not slow

[restive ether]

spark ended up making a cli tool to resize them

[primal perch]

apparently doing that in photoshop is too hard

[restive ether]

yes

disabling bitcode in the app, this bitch smaller now

[faint timber]

-fembed-bitcode=off -fno-lto

[restive ether]

we love lto

[faint timber]

what it do

[restive ether]

link time optimizations go brrrr

[faint timber]

I guess I can reenable lto now that actions has big sur xcode

[restive ether]

tell them to hurry up and do monterrey

[primal perch]

we do lto

and -O3

[faint timber]

what about -Os

[restive ether]

use the most aggressive option so your program doesn’t work until you do everything possible to fix leaks

hacker man

[lime pivot]

just remember that to perform work on a 2048x2048 image, you need to use 2048 * 2048 * 4 = 16MB of memory to hold the pixel data temporarily

multiply by 200 icons or so

[primal perch]

most likely 16mb at a time sequentially

with how most code on stackoverflow works

still pretty bad

tbf

[lime pivot]

heh

[primal perch]

and that’s how you get terrible load times on springboard

3.2gb of image processing per respring

[lime pivot]

well yeah, but I still don't want to be decompressing 16MB of pixel data from a png, running a scaling algo, freeing up that 16MB, and presumably writing the scaled image back out to disk

[restive ether]

i love when some tweak dev dunks all over respring times cause their tweak sucks

that’s always fun

[primal perch]

what’s it supposed to be

like 256x256?

128

[lime pivot]

write your entire tweak in %ctor bro nothing can go wrong there

I think 256 or so was recommended? don't recall now

[primal perch]

yea that’s 256KiB per image then

much more reasonable

[lime pivot]

yep exactly

[primal perch]

assuming they don’t do any compression in ram

not sure if that’s a thing on ios or macos

windows does it for some

[lime pivot]

it always makes me angry when I see someone use such massive graphics for no obvious benefit, uses more disk or takes longer to download, just to render it at a fraction of the size that was delivered

[primal perch]

yea true

[lime pivot]

I can even say I had experience with that, heh

was working on a feature for my job and we didn't have image processing working yet on the server, so I was just pulling the full-size image at first

[primal perch]

[restive ether]

https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines/ios/icons-and-images/app-icon/

[lime pivot]

kept getting crashes only when not attached to debugger

[primal perch]

hey you’d probably get a raise at microsoft for that

they love legacy code

[lime pivot]

thought about it for a while and realised it's only happening when I go to a specific screen with a specific photo being downloaded

well rather multiple photos, even

[primal perch]

not even then

180x180 image

[lime pivot]

confirmed with the debugger that within seconds I was absolutely destroying the app's memory usage, something like 40MB which will definitely get your app killed

[primal perch]

126.56KiB

sex

[restive ether]

sileo when the app kills itself cause it used too much memory

[primal perch]

swift devs moment

[restive ether]

well at least it doesn’t do that anymore

the pre 2.2 sileo had too many memory leaks

in just about every corner

[primal perch]

how do you even get leaks when 80% of it is swift

and the other 15% objc uses arc

[lime pivot]

by writing bad swift lmao

[restive ether]

yeah

[primal perch]

weak references are too hard apparently

[restive ether]

you can ask amy, she’s in a coma from how many times she’s bashed her head into a wall from reading bad swift

[lime pivot]

honestly scares me that ARC/Swift makes it so easy to accidentally leak a ton of memory, and there's no tools that seem to be able to detect this

all you need to do is accidentally keep a strong reference to one object that has a strong reference to another object that has ………… etc

[primal perch]

i mean there’s xcode

the debugger is pretty good

[restive ether]

gnu debugger

[primal perch]

but that requires effort and optimization

something tweak devs aren’t too keen on

[restive ether]

tweak devs using optimizations, lol

already asking far too much

[lime pivot]

oh I mean compared to manual reference counting where you could click Product --> Analyze and it would helpfully explain every case where you either retained too many times, or would crash because you didn't retain

they just never seemed to bother making a tool like that for ARC

[primal perch]

arc devs probably “damn we just made memory management way easier for everyone, we don’t even need a tool for retain cycles since they’re so easy to avoid”

[lime pivot]

and I do wonder if it's because it's legitimately difficult to tell whether a "leak" is by design or not with ARC

funny enough, due to what IMO is poor API design, in Alderis I intentionally create a retain cycle when presenting the UI through the libcolorpicker compat API

most tweaks I tested it against didn't keep a strong reference to the object, so it'd get released by ARC and the delegate method never fires because the object went away

[primal perch]

[lime pivot]

actually now I think of it, the issue with memory usage in the app was only noticed because a leak was compounding it

view controller was leaking because some controller it used was holding a strong reference to it

so entering that screen more than once was a guaranteed crash

had to work around it by scaling the images on the device, before the server side guys merged the thumbnail generating logic

[primal perch]

bedtime

gn

[sour halo]

gn

would it be unethical to make a bird shit clone and sell it to kiddos for the money

[undone nest]

yes

[sour halo]

that is sad

[lethal kayak]

who would buy it

when there's a free alternative

[restive ether]

joe

[sour halo]

children

[untold river]

people who dont know the free alternative exists

and children

[lethal kayak]

i cant see that being the case when the paid tweak comes out after the free one

[sour halo]

I mean

true

[untold river]

idk then

maybe bird poop got more viral or some shit

just a guess

[sour halo]

I remember somebody here saying it made like 7k sales

that shit blew up

and then the free one came out

it's as good of a gimmick as carbridge

which should not have been $10

[untold river]

carbridge really broke out of the jailbreaking sphere

so much so that there are literally people asking refunds because they didnt know it required a jailbreak

[undone nest]

yeah its fucked

[sour halo]

lmao

[undone nest]

i saw someone buy it and after like 10
minutes we figured out they werent even jailbroken

[sour halo]

bro wtf

https://carbridgeapp.com/

it installs a profile

nvm it's just surveys

anyway

[undone nest]

[untold river]

Car
Bridge App

[harsh needle]

gm

me when clang stops me from doing pointer arithmetic on void*

highly sus

        uintptr_t x = (uintptr_t)image_info_buffer;
        x += sizeof(dyld_all_image_infos_64);
        image_info_buffer = (void*)x;
``` we do a little trolling

go trough the hundred compiler options

image info is read into the buffer, yes

i still dont wanna see chipmunks getting head

source

[+] Task found.
image_info_addr: 0x104370140
Path: /Applications/Spotify.app/Contents/MacOS/Spotify, Address: 0x102c88000
Process 15716 exited with status = 0 (0x00000000) 
(lldb) 
``` highly sus

isnt there a mach_* protection function?

frstache

time to figure out why it only gets me one entry

couldve told me this is image_info and not image_info_array smh

 : 0x2786bd478 
 : 0x2786bd748 
 : 0x278727ee8 
 : 0x2786c6988 
 : 0x2786c2900 
 : 0x2786e0cc8 
 : 0x2786d4b70 
 : 0x0 
 : 0x0 
 : 0x0 
 : 0x0 
``` ![trol](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/831188670848565289.webp?size=128 "trol") path gone, address reduced to null

smh

okay something is wrong with my math on that shitty array

void get_some_bitches

cya

https://github.com/comex/substitute/blob/master/lib/darwin/inject.c#L191 why the hell does it add uint64_t to the buffer, but only when it does not hit continue?

its so weird, when path is being read out correctly it would just loop trough the same entry, no?

ill uh

try my best

only needs to work on arm64 wdym

okay so just a diff seg name?

im not sure either, i havent touched arm64 asm at all

[faint timber]

I was just gonna post this

before you had the chance

doing hw for a little longer

mines due in 29 mins

[harsh needle]

mf was about to sleep

now does homework

[faint timber]

lmfao

I did it yesterday but I'm getting last minute jitters I need to rewrite some of it

[harsh needle]

now mf is lying to cryptic about doing homework

didnt even have the chance to touch computers at school

because they dont have any

[faint timber]

15% of my dev came from school

[harsh needle]

0

[faint timber]

cuz im in data structures c++

[harsh needle]

gonna cum in vocational college when i finally got IT

to get the title

[faint timber]

I'm retaking the class

I was a dumbass and didn't study last time

class of 2020 HS
I took 2 semesters so far but took last semester off

confidential

@grave sparrow just in time lol

[harsh needle]

https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/itazegenux.yaml

[lime pivot]

I’ve definitely done this more than a few times lmao

[faint timber]

I was just adding comments lol I did this assignment in 2021 @lime pivot

[lime pivot]

oh lol really

[lime pivot]

I won’t say I haven’t submitted a minute late knowing they’ll be nice enough to not penalise me for just 1 minute

[faint timber]

"the site crashed"

[untold river]

i submit at exactly the deadline for shits and giggles

sometimes

[faint timber]

a comp professor would understand a website crashing

[untold river]

[lime pivot]

mfw submitted 11:59:59

[faint timber]

I couldn't even load my schedule for a week

[untold river]

i cant say i have done that one too many times

[lime pivot]

my PB is something like “Submitted 6 seconds early”

[untold river]

[harsh needle]

"early"

[faint timber]

oops I froze my ida

thats the stringcount...

[lime pivot]

haven’t had that at least

[faint timber]

its weird how its 7.7 now and its still not well performed multithreading

[lime pivot]

I wonder if Moodle even supports that

usually they just say late submission = 0%

even though it still allows editing submission after the deadline

can’t say I’ve dared to submit after the deadline to test whether it disables initial submission uploads lmao

[solid condor]

How do I monetize a tweak and minimize the cracked and malware-injected versions? Is there a way to do that without drm and stuff? What’s the meta rn

[harsh needle]

well DRM is the reason why cracking shit does not happen

well thats wrong, it slows it down

[solid condor]

Drm never works it’s just a waste of time

It takes you as long to make it as it takes them to reverse it

[harsh needle]

it does work

[harsh needle]

thats the whole point

[solid condor]

Kind of redundant

[harsh needle]

nobody is forcing you to do it

i know that

its not secure, but the fact is it does slow down by a point

is it effective? no

[lime pivot]

even the bare minimum is sufficient at this point in time

can change in future but there hasn’t been someone super devoted to cracking tweaks in a few years

[solid condor]

Just basic string obfuscation? I don’t use logos so I could probably pull it off

[harsh needle]

use hikari

[solid condor]

Lmao

I tried

[harsh needle]

dont

[solid condor]

It wouldn’t even build

What’s wrong with it

[harsh needle]

_xorstr meme

[solid condor]

Isn’t it just o-llvm?

[lime pivot]

hikari will work even if you do use logos, I think at least

[harsh needle]

may be a fork, not sure

u do ur homework

[lime pivot]

may still need to regex to add hikari attributes to the logos generated functions though

[solid condor]

I don’t use logos or substrate tho I think it’s fine

[solid condor]

Some communities have bad issues for sure... a lot of people dedicated to cracking tweaks like mine

[lime pivot]

of course, remember in the end I could just, say, hook objc runtime funcs to see what you're doing

so whether you use common things or not doesn't make a huge difference

usually you're just doing what substrate etc would be doing for you

[solid condor]

I’m saying I don’t have to worry about regex and Perl

I don’t use substrate because of how it injects code I made a custom version that won’t trip advanced jailbreak detection

[solid condor]

Not if I remap the entire objective c runtime and mutilate the strings😈

[lime pivot]

interesting. any idea if that helps compared to what libhooker does?

[solid condor]

No idea

I’ve never looked at it

I looked at sams source of substitute and the code injection leaves so many traces

[lime pivot]

yeah that's fair enough. I mean I guess the idea is that it isn't a design goal to hide itself, but these days it's getting more important to

[lime pivot]

and other such hits as "the country of Norway (NO) is interpreted as false unless quoted"

would be nice to be paid for all the shit I do for this community for once

I simped my paypal link on everything since 2013 and get like 3x $5 tips a year

you're using the free version of Chariz! please wait 60 seconds to download at throttled speeds, or give us your credit card and we promise we'll only charge you a few bucks for unthrottled/non delayed downloads!

also please watch this full-screen ad and press the tiny X that's been intentionally hidden first

oops, guess we gotta block javascript for all repos to fix this one 🙃

[faint timber]

@grave sparrow this is one big rabbit hole mf

llvm-project

apple's cuz arm64e

[harsh needle]

holy shit what am i doing

https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/efuwusomut.pl

i got it half working?

but either the char buffer got a fuck ton of newlines because i allocated it with max path

or idk

75??

what the fuck

it printed like 5

let me look at the imagecount

[untold river]

should have used --depth 1

[harsh needle]

yeah it is 537

    dyld_image_info_64* image;
    void* buffer = malloc(sizeof(dyld_all_image_infos_64));
    printf("arraycount: %i", image_info->infoArrayCount);
    for(int i = 0; i < image_info->infoArrayCount; i++) {
            mach_vm_read_overwrite(task_port, image_info->infoArray + i, sizeof(dyld_image_info_64), (mach_vm_address_t)buffer, &size_out);

        char path_buf[MAXPATHLEN+1];
        size_t toread = MIN(MAXPATHLEN, -((dyld_image_info_64*)buffer)->imageFilePath & 0xfff);
        path_buf[toread] = '\0';
        kr = mach_vm_read_overwrite(task_port, ((dyld_image_info_64*)buffer)->imageFilePath, toread,
                                    (mach_vm_address_t) path_buf, &size_out);


        printf("%s\n", path_buf);
        }
```. it should loop over every dylib tho

and no i havent installed clang-format yet, im sorry

[faint timber]

yes lol

[harsh needle]

did it once with all threads in a shitty nzxt case

i got an airbase in my room

seems to be the wrong offset for the path somehow. sometimes path_buf is just empty or 5 times the same over the iterations

copy pasted both structs off there

[misty cradle]

where is your paypal link

[harsh needle]

its so confusing :/

[misty cradle]

L

dyldo

[harsh needle]

exactly the same

struct dyld_image_info_64 {
    uint64_t                    imageLoadAddress;
    uint64_t                    imageFilePath;
    uint64_t                    imageFileModDate;
};
``` im guessing this is right tho?

[lime pivot]

newterm for example

actually might be the only prominent place it can be found these days

I recently set it globally on all hashbang and chariz repos on github though

[misty cradle]

ok let me find

https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/HashbangProductions/50USD/

everyone donate to hashbang productions

@lime pivot getting an error

This recipient accepts PayPal payments only through their website. To complete this payment, please go to their website and follow their instructions, or email the recipient for instructions.

[lime pivot]

wait fr

lmao that's right

[undone nest]

i can request money

[lime pivot]

I disabled payments because people were sending us money and then going "ok now can I have my tweaks"

[misty cradle]

ok where do i donate

[lime pivot]

bro why do you think we have a website that accepts your money and gives you access automatically

[undone nest]

maybe make a seperate paypal for donations?

[misty cradle]

i feel like i have too much money so i need to spend some.

[lime pivot]

I've been meaning to split up the "business" PayPal from the "store" PayPal

[misty cradle]

@lime pivot where to donate now

[lime pivot]

see, reading this seemed pretty clear to me that paypal.me would still work

obviously not

[lime pivot]

feel free to deplete all of your money into my account now

[misty cradle]

all?

[lime pivot]

yes, all of it

now.

[misty cradle]

ok

[lime pivot]

not that I would know if you sent anything

[misty cradle]

ok refresh now @lime pivot

[lime pivot]

ok WTF I didn't think you were actually going to send money lmao

but thanks

[misty cradle]

[lime pivot]

dammit I thought I had that emote

[misty cradle]

im not done yet

ok refresh again

[lime pivot]

that was just to test that it would go through right and you're actually going to send me $1,000,000?

[misty cradle]

i am gonna send you 10000$

i earned this with nft's

but in small increments of 10$

mr kirb are u happy yet

i guess not

[high citrus]

paypal fees be like i take 90%

[misty cradle]

ok more?

give me one moment

[lime pivot]

reminds me of when I think Linus was trying to troll some other channel by sending superchats of $1 at a time and he got his credit card frozen for tripping the fraud detection 😂

[misty cradle]

F

@lime pivot refresh again

[lime pivot]

fr you don't need to do this bro but I love you man

[misty cradle]

no i love u

i have made too much money the past 2 weeks now i need to give some back

and u deserve it

[lime pivot]

tbh been feeling down lately because sales have been so terrible, haven't had motivation to work on [redacted chariz features] that would (hopefully) make it a strong successful business

[misty cradle]

ok now that amount of usd will give u extra motivation hopefully

[vivid dew]

i will buy chariz for pennies on the dollar

[misty cradle]

.

[lime pivot]

ngl I don't even know when people send donations until I do my taxes every year

[misty cradle]

you do that once a year?

[lime pivot]

cause I have to disable incoming payment alerts

[misty cradle]

here businesses have to do it each quarter

[lime pivot]

I wouldn't have a life if PayPal were emailing me to say I've received $1.99 from [random customer name]

100 times an hour

[misty cradle]

f

[lime pivot]

well, true I declare taxable income quarterly but I usually just pull those numbers from the Chariz database

[misty cradle]

ah

[lime pivot]

figured cause nobody donates anyway worst case my quarterly returns are off by a few bucks max

[misty cradle]

kirb's total donations went up by 5000%

[lime pivot]

you're just meant to estimate as best you can quarterly anyway, the real deal is the annual return

[lime pivot]

you mean ∞%

actually do tbh

it's just easier for tax reasons that I put stuff through the business

https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/adamdemasi

oh yeah, PayPal still shows a broken image icon for the Chariz account

[misty cradle]

is this ur 2nd account that i have to send money to

[lime pivot]

even though the logo shows up fine in your activity statement

[lime pivot]

I would say buy everything on Chariz instead but a wise person once said, don't make it hard to take someone's money 😂

[misty cradle]

which wise man said that you prolly made that up

[misty cradle]

ok perhaps

but then u dont get it

[lime pivot]

wait till I release gift purchases and buy 100 of every tweak

100 is the limit I set because, I guess I don't exactly want people buying 10,000 of a tweak and then going "wait can you give that back" and I'm out a massive PayPal fee

reminds me of that one dude who bought the $1,000,000 tweak

lmao

yeah no refunds on those

[misty cradle]

what if they open paypal case

like gift sender

[lime pivot]

I made it clear in checkout but I can 100% guarantee we'll get people saying we stole their money and our refund policy wasn't mentioned anywhere

[lime pivot]

the trick with PayPal disputes is they come to us first

so we see every instance when someone lies out the ass to PayPal thinking we can't see it

[misty cradle]

tru

[lime pivot]

usually ends in them never responding and the case auto-closing due to no customer response

[misty cradle]

now i have to find a way to send money to my bank from paypal

without having to wait

until tomorrow

[lime pivot]

they usually never come back so it's been fine without having to issue bans so far

I'm coming up with a system to ban PayPal buyers though

since we can see your PayPal account ID after you return from checkout (the checkout process just creates an authorisation, we then capture that authorisation i.e. take the money)

funny thing is they actually did the complete opposite

they granted us high-priority access to the PayPal business call centre and also enabled "Funds Now" which doesn't lock disputed funds away from you

you get to use the funds from that transaction per usual through a dispute, though they're still going to debit that amount from you if necessary

they do also frequently issue "nobody at fault" refunds, where we're not slugged a fee for the dispute escalation ending in a refund

(a refund costs us the variable % amount of the PayPal fee)

[lime pivot]

high priority as in I'm placed towards the front of the queue when I call in and enter the support PIN for the account

no clue whether that also means I get a higher-tier support person rather than one that's just going to tell me to turn it off and on again and transfer me 10 times when it inevitably doesn't work

can't say I've had to call in a while

when I first set up the account I remember being transferred like 4 times between people who had no clue what I was talking about

I was trying to request payouts API be enabled

and they were like ??? you want to pay people? did you know you can just do that on the website?

[misty cradle]

[lime pivot]

literally called the number listed directly under "payouts API: please call to enable"

to their credit, they've dramatically improved business customer service since then

ok yeah that also helps lmao

that said, when I did that the last person I spoke to was like yep no worries, enabled, thanks sir goodbye

the site still said call to enable so I figured ok fine it might be cached, I'll check tomorrow

still said that so I was like alright guess it just always has that message

later found out it was never enabled, tried to get it fixed but they insisted they've deprecated the payouts API now and aren't enabling it for new requests, but the replacement was a wildly different API that effectively turns you into the eBay model

where sales go straight to the seller's account but you have control over those sales as the facilitator, eg you can hold funds for a grace period

bruh I don't want that I just want what I asked for

[misty cradle]

true

[lime pivot]

https://twitter.com/hbkirb/status/1150924134081105920

Adam Demasi, the flame repo guy (@hbkirb)

hi @PayPal, our custom-built store platform @CharizTeam/@iospackixrepo has used your service from day 1, we just surpassed $350k processed with you, yet when we request access to automated payouts nobody returns our calls/emails. is it too much to ask for this critical function?

Twitter · Jul 16, 2019, 12:24 AM

this was a thing that happened

naturally, they asked me to DM with my account email, which I did, they told me to email a specific department

that department sent me to another department

that department said to call business customer service

wouldn't be PayPal without being bounced around the wrong departments and end up back where you started

hahah, my login timed out and it redirected to an ad for their loan thing

they hate that I dismiss it every time it begs me to take a loan

[harsh needle]

@grave sparrow how tf can the imageloadaddress be 0x0, something is very sus https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/gahikojuro.yaml

also multiple addresses referencing the same path?

seems like dyld_image_info_64 is not being read or the array is not being read correctly

since the address to the path is also null

[misty cradle]

take out a 100k loan

fake your death

[lime pivot]

I'll get right on that

[misty cradle]

[harsh needle]

@grave sparrow le fixed it ```cpp
size_t info_size = sizeof(struct dyld_image_info_64) * image_info->infoArrayCount;
void* image_addr_buffer = malloc(info_size);
mach_vm_read_overwrite(task_port, image_info->infoArray, info_size, (mach_vm_offset_t)image_addr_buffer, &size_out);

dyld_image_info_64* image = (struct dyld_image_info_64*)image_addr_buffer;
void* buffer = malloc(sizeof(dyld_image_info_64));
printf("[+] Found %i images\n", image_info->infoArrayCount);
for(int i = 0; i < image_info->infoArrayCount; i++) { 

    void* buffer = malloc(PATH_MAX);

    mach_vm_read_overwrite(task_port, image[i].imageFilePath, PATH_MAX, (mach_vm_offset_t)buffer, &size_out);          

    if((uint8_t*)buffer) {
        printf("%s\n", (uint8_t*)buffer);
    } 
}

no fucking clue what i did wrong but it does work now

am i supposed to be scared that some of those libs just have no extension?

[silver rampart]

@harsh needle wyd

[harsh needle]

my plan is to get all the lil dylibs together and get their GOT so i can tinker with their pointers

[silver rampart]

as in, frameworks?

[silver rampart]

yeah those are frameworks

[harsh needle]

do frameworks.. have no extension?

[silver rampart]

extension means nothing

its just a filename

[harsh needle]

i know

im just asking

[silver rampart]

frameworks are just fancy wrapped up dylibs ig, would be one way to put it

[harsh needle]

interesting

[silver rampart]

genuinely no differences in terms of the header/etc aside from the install name

[harsh needle]

hm alrighty then

[harsh needle]

am i right to assume the load commands start at imageLoadAddress (base address of the dylib) + sizeof(mach_header_64)

[silver rampart]

yes

mach header will encode info about the count and size of lcs in an image

[harsh needle]

what do you mean by encode

[silver rampart]

its a struct with values pertaining to those

[harsh needle]

uintptr_t load_command_offset = info.imageLoadAddress + sizeof(mach_header_64);

        for(int i = 0; i < header->ncmds; i++) {
            void* cmd_buffer = malloc(sizeof(load_command));
            struct load_command* cmd; 

            mach_vm_read_overwrite(task_port, load_command_offset, sizeof(load_command), (mach_vm_offset_t)cmd_buffer, &size_out);

            printf("dylib: %s cmd: %u\n", info.imageFilePath, cmd->cmd);
            load_command_offset += cmd->cmdsize;
        }
``` this is my current approach, the reason i was asking this is because cmd always changes when i rerun it, and all load commands of a dylib are the same

[harsh needle]

read this for braindamage

maybe i should actually cast cmd_buffer to cmd?

seems to work now, apart from these weird cmds sometimes

not sure what theyre caused by

[silver rampart]

nah that's a proper lc

[primal perch]

anyone else lose the ability to focus when you see the word “mach”

[silver rampart]

display it as hex and it'll make more sense

[silver rampart]

[primal perch]

as it turns out i’ve heard the same thing from a lot of other people @silver rampart

maybe i will go android next time

it’s not bad

[silver rampart]

as long as u get a good phone

same problem as windows in that some of the OEMs are kinda shit

[primal perch]

one plus looks kinda good

[silver rampart]

some of the load commands are bitwise or-ed withLC_REQ_DYLD = 0x80000000

[misty cradle]

@tardy narwhal gm

when a project says dotnet 5.0

they mean to install dotnet 5.0 or higher and then make a project with not .net framework but the standard one right

[primal perch]

[misty cradle]

when i try to install with .net framework 4.8 i get an error

[primal perch]

https://tenor.com/view/darwin-claus-evolving-chimney-santa-deniers-sciencemas-gif-23987712

[ocean raptor]

is it possible to follow an org on github?

[silver rampart]

i dont think so

[ocean raptor]

who here knows go?
Basically I have a go file that does

//go:cgo_import_dynamic libc_execve execve "/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib"

but I need it to do this

//if +ios
//go:cgo_import_dynamic libc_execve ie_execve "/usr/lib/libiosexec.1.dylib"
//else
//go:cgo_import_dynamic libc_execve execve "/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib"

[primal perch]

have you tried GOing online

[gentle grove]

replace Python with rust

trol

[primal perch]

[gentle grove]

rust users when the unsafe {

[primal perch]

rust users trying not to poop and pee their pants when i name a function camelcase

[glacial matrix]

Wen Chariz+ subscription?

[glacial matrix]

Immediately followed by a segmentation fault

[gentle grove]

troll

[primal perch]

or not, if you’re unlucky

[lime pivot]

👅

[lime pivot]

man stop leaking my roadmap /s

[glacial matrix]

unlicky

[primal perch]

chariz +

only 3.99/mo

sorry guys ios autocorrect is balls

[lime pivot]

I mean I’d make a subscription service I just literally don’t have anything I can sell ongoing like that

not yet at least

[primal perch]

chariz loot crate

comes with a box of random merch

[hardy glen]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9OC5n1MFa0M?feature=share this video just made casting a whole lot clearer

[ocean raptor]

who wants to test golang 1.17?

[misty cradle]

ah ok ty

tried making .net framework but that didnt work

[silver rampart]

perhaps even GOing outside

[misty cradle]

hmm so im using .net core now or wut

im confused

yeah ok nvm

it says .net core

[harsh needle]

ah alright then

thanks ^^

i guess i will now be looking at LC_SYMTAB?

[misty cradle]

aha okay thanks for that

good to know

[silver rampart]

what are u guys doing

[faint stag]

i go to github and this is the first thing i see

[harsh needle]

what the fuck

[harsh needle]

okay so, security trough obsecurity and then open sourcing it

breaking the whole obsecurity part

[faint stag]

i mean, the source code won't really be useful if you're working with a compiled app already

[harsh needle]

what

[faint stag]

i'm assuming their claim that the names are random, encrypted and irreversible are true

alongside with it making entirely new ones if swiftshield gets run again (eg: app updates)

[tepid olive]

Guys anyone there

[lethal kayak]

just ask your question

dont ask to ask

[tepid olive]

My dylib shows like default file

But it has to shows like the down pic

it dont have logo on his own

What should i do

[tardy narwhal]

that's dotnet core yeah

the nomenclature is stupid

dotnet -> .net core
anything else -> .net framework
C# x.y -> referencing the c# standard which varies between dotnet & .net framework because dotnet 5+ uses C# 8+ while .net framework 4.8 is still C# 7.3

[weary heath]

chmod +x <dylib>

[tepid olive]

At where

Please help me

idk about it

Also your banner op

Can you explain it more

@weary heath

[primal perch]

[tepid olive]

...

help?

this server should more than uhh

[primal perch]

[weary heath]

In a terminal like newterm

[tepid olive]

okey

What type

Su

Password

After that

[weary heath]

what

[tepid olive]

What command

[weary heath]

_ _

[tepid olive]

should i choose file first?

[weary heath]

I think that might work yeah

[tepid olive]

cd (location)

?

[weary heath]

Perhaps

[tepid olive]

Cant

[weary heath]

chmod +x app.dylib

[tepid olive]

Term cant see file with cd im sure right location

[weary heath]

run ls

[tepid olive]

Yea worked

Thanks

[silver rampart]

interesting

well, it points to a table containing function starts

[faint timber]

@grave sparrow how do you verify if its la symbol pointer or got

[silver rampart]

my parser doesn't actually handle the func starts table rn so I'm going to work on that this morning

note: LC_FUNCTION_STARTS is a linkedit_data_command if you're planning on loading it

[faint timber]

how do I do that lol

[silver rampart]

bout to learn bc i have no idea

ulebs are great though

but there's no reason i can think of for uleb usage

[faint timber]

runtime because the pointer changes every exec

[silver rampart]

i lied

its entirely ulebs

https://opensource.apple.com/source/ld64/ld64-127.2/src/other/dyldinfo.cpp ctrl+F "::printFunctionStartsInfo"

get the info size from the data command and decode ulebs till you run out of data

how

have you read the wikipedia page on it

somehow manages to actually be a really good explanation/intro to unsigned/signed lebs

• it has psuedocode

not actually how sure function starts is except for debugging

lord i fucked up that sentence as well

ok i finished function start parsing

uleb decoding is simple enough

wait i fucked it up i think

oh i get why it uses ulebs now

[silver rampart]

still fucked it up oop

turns out all of my vm code is fucked up

ok pog

here's the actual valid code @grave sparrow

where image.vm.vm_base_addr is the vm address of the segment with the file offset of 0 (and a nonzero size)

depends on what exactly you're doing

[harsh needle]

oops @silver rampart didnt know you were referring to me, sorry for not responding ^^

[primal perch]

https://stackoverflow.com/a/30941356 the apple way to present a uialertcontroller without having an explicit parent one apparently

seems like a believable anecdote

[hardy glen]

pe/nis is my pronouns

[harsh needle]

i thought it was k/ext

[hasty ruin]

capt

more like

clapt

because he’s clapped

‼️

[vivid dew]

squid games

[hasty ruin]

:shock:

[harsh needle]

guess ill code it further at work, got nothing else to do anyways

still waiting 6 months to go to college

[ocean raptor]

I prefer CFUserNotificationCreate()

[lime pivot]

if you need to do this, your code architecture is wrong

[gentle grove]

if redis is so cool why isn't there blueisnt

[gentle grove]

you need it to get degree

job

you can try to get hired without degree then

but its not as easy

im not the right person to talk about this

wow

we totally didnt know that

[primal perch]

if you’re paying hundreds of thousands of dollars you’re doing it wrong

just get better then

schools will do merit on their own

outside of the government

unfortunate

have you tried not being in california

[vivid dew]

true

move to louisiana

[primal perch]

move to idaho and you’ll be top 0.1%

unironically worked for my brother

he went there senior year and got money

[cloud yacht]

california is bad cause everything gives you cancer there

[primal perch]

he was mediocre otherwise in grades

and score

bad

[gentle grove]

what

[restive ether]

it’s even worse because it’s based on joint income and the threshold is really easy to exceed, even if your parents couldn’t afford to send you to college on their own

[primal perch]

[primal perch]

me

[gentle grove]

how are you asking questions on th english section

[restive ether]

i got lucky in that regard that i didn’t have to put my dad’s income when filing

or else i would’ve been screwed

[primal perch]

fortunately i got free tuition in state because of merit so i’m kinda bing chilling

[gentle grove]

myai

[primal perch]

rip

you got population’d

[gentle grove]

Meritrust Bank

wait

[primal perch]

true

[gentle grove]

do they use rust

merit rust

[primal perch]

hope not

[gentle grove]

there;s rust in everything

[primal perch]

i don’t need transactions taking 3000 years because they gotta recompile

[gentle grove]

anything that has iron

certainly has rust

[primal perch]

expensive ass college

[gentle grove]

wait theres no rust in minecraft

[primal perch]

[lethal kayak]

were you online

[primal perch]

college is obsolescing themselves

[gentle grove]

whjat is obsolescing

[primal perch]

a lot of resources online are free and published by universities

lmao

[gentle grove]

lamo

[primal perch]

imagine 15K for online

[lethal kayak]

they're charging normal tuition for online

[primal perch]

shits not even worth 1k

Moyai

[lethal kayak]

if that happens to me i'm unironically withdrawing

[primal perch]

true

same

i mean

id do some onljne

like generals

[lethal kayak]

if it was cheap enough i'd be like "ok this sucks"

but at the insane prices they have

[primal perch]

but not higher level cs classes

os theory

[lethal kayak]

fuck no

[primal perch]

that kind of shit

[restive ether]

there’s a reason tuition is so expensive

it’s a pretty simple reason

the government raised how much money they give you for tuition and the universities were like wait a second bro we can just raise tuition by exactly how much more they give

[primal perch]

board meetings “lol these bozos are paying 10000 per semester for online learning”

clowns

[restive ether]

when the your prison cell dorm cost more than your tuition

[primal perch]

when the

[lime pivot]

in a normal country this should have resulted in the government suing the universities or signing another bill to cap tuition costs

but America loves to let companies get away with price gouging and abusing the law for profit, and brand it as capitalism working as designed

@ocean raptor so looks like update-alternatives works on telesphoreo

any specific way you'd like me to configure cephei defaults?

I think it'd make sense if your defaults can be higher priority than cephei's, if such a thing exists

ok I see, priorities are indeed a thing

[ocean raptor]

I sent you a the postinst

[lime pivot]

so yours is 50, I'll make mine… 30 or something? idk what sounds appropriate

[ocean raptor]

I'll find it

[lime pivot]

oh oops

I didn't find it on the github repo btw

only in the deb

[ocean raptor]

can't find it 💀

[restive ether]

we couldn’t even get an insulin price cap passed lol

[ocean raptor]

it's in Procursus/build_info/defaults.*

[misty cradle]

Managed to refund 4k to the scammed people already

[restive ether]

cap being the highest your copay can be at least, which doesn’t address the price gouging itself

[lime pivot]

maybe we only talked about it, you didn't give me an actual command to use, I guess

[misty cradle]

The only problem is this remaining 4.8k.... I can't link the money to them in any way

[lime pivot]

but I'll just copy what you did

[primal perch]

looks like you collected a finders fee @misty cradle

[ocean raptor]

postinst:

#!/bin/sh
if [ "$1" = "configure" ]; then
  update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/defaults defaults /usr/bin/defaults-cephei 30
fi

prerm:

#!/bin/sh
if [ "$1" = "remove" ]; then
  update-alternatives --remove defaults /usr/bin/defaults-cephei
fi

[lime pivot]

yep pretty much

[ocean raptor]

change defaults-cephei to whatever you called it

[ocean raptor]

I'm surprised by that tbh, I thought it didn't work 🤷‍♂️

[lime pivot]

I'll try it at least

should be able to install the defaults deb on this device, iOS 10

[ocean raptor]

maybe that was just untrue saurik slander that I helped perpetuate

[lime pivot]

lmao

[restive ether]

cydia when conffile

[misty cradle]

i'm gonna donate like 800$ or 1k of it

Rest i'll hold for other victims

[lime pivot]

bless you for doing that

ahhh we were so close @ocean raptor

maybe I can just mkdir -p that

that worked

[ocean raptor]

[misty cradle]

any other devs in need of money

[lime pivot]

heh only reason I can't install your defaults on telesphoreo is because of zst

[misty cradle]

⁉️

[ocean raptor]

it's also built minos 12.0

[lime pivot]

👌

[ocean raptor]

cool

[lime pivot]

yeah, can't run it because dyld: Library not loaded: @rpath/libiosexec.1.dylib Referenced from: /usr/bin/defaults Reason: image not found Abort trap: 6

but it updated as expected, so that's perfect

[ocean raptor]

true

imagine running a jb that isn't kppless 🥲

[lime pivot]

🥲

this actually is on the last kppless jb

[faint timber]

please use the static exec patch

[lime pivot]

it's not my binary

[faint timber]

its not my problem

[lime pivot]

this is iOS 10.3, I'd say it's nobody's problem lmao

not meant to run here anyway

[faint timber]

is libiosexec constructor only or does the original binary call from it @ocean raptor

[restive ether]

joe binary

[ocean raptor]

it replaces all calls to exec(3) with ie_exec* which will call the OG func then do shebang stuff if it fails, or redirect shebang if on a rootless install

[faint timber]

install_name_tool -delete_rpath @rpath/libiosexec.1.dylib /usr/bin/defaults

[ocean raptor]

https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/libiosexec it's very simple

[ocean raptor]

thath would prob work, except for the fact that the binary is built with minos 12.0

[lime pivot]

unrelated, I have a phone on 12.4 chimera, am I supposed to be able to upgrade it to pro somehow

[faint timber]

I'm a chad and always build for 1300

[ocean raptor]

restore rootfs, rejailbreak with latest chimera

[lime pivot]

not a chad till you're maintaining support for iOS 5.0+ in 2022

[ocean raptor]

procursus stopped supporting upgrade paths when we debianized everything

[faint timber]

I maintain tihmstar code

[lime pivot]

I'm sorry

👑

this is for you

[faint timber]

I'm finally removing the c

since its supposed to be c++

[faint timber]

should not be using fopen in 2022

unless the project is actually c

[tepid olive]

https://reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/sn3dyg/eli5_why_is_it_so_bad_to_store_passwords_in_plain/

[sour halo]

well are we talking after account creation or during account creation

[ocean raptor]

after

[sour halo]

Oh then yeah

[ocean raptor]

https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/dyld/blob/5c9192436bb195e7a8fe61f22a229ee3d30d8222/common/MachOFile.cpp#L578

realityOS

[primal perch]

among us

[vivid dew]

wtf wtf wtf

realityos

[lyric timber]

macrumors is asleep

didn't report on this yet

[harsh needle]

wow really? no wonder. not even college could help you out at this point

vocational college, and its free here anyways

[gentle grove]

what?

[harsh needle]

[harsh needle]

@grave sparrow for some reason segname is hella corrupted sometimes, segment_command whack

and its always on these high fucking cmd values

0x80000033 kinda sus

[harsh needle]

well probaly something like this then

if(lc->cmd > 0x80000000)
   lc->cmd -= 0x80000000;
``` @grave sparrow we do a little trolling?

LOL

[faint timber]

use ternary

[harsh needle]

guess its time to learn something new

👌

[faint timber]

use binary to visualize how this actually works

[harsh needle]

interesting, clearing LC_REQ_DYLD still hits my LC_SEGMENT_64 case even tho 0x33 != 0x19

its probaly default i had added before and didnt see

[harsh needle]

Okay so the problem is that  ```cpp
lc = (load_command*)cmd_buffer;

        if(lc->cmd & LC_REQ_DYLD) { 
            lc->cmd &= ~LC_REQ_DYLD;
        }

        switch (lc->cmd) {
            case LC_SYMTAB: {
                symtab_lc = (symtab_command*)cmd_buffer;
            };
            case LC_SEGMENT_64: { 

mach_vm_read_overwrite(task_port, load_command_offset, sizeof(segment_command_64), (mach_vm_offset_t)cmd_segment_buffer, &size_out);

                sc = (segment_command_64*)cmd_segment_buffer; 

which is really weird, since cmd should stay the same, since segment_command_64 is just a a bigger struct but starts withe the same types/variables load_command does

[harsh needle]

uh are there multiple __LINKEDIT segments?

[wispy delta]

is it possible to develop apps on windows/linux?

[harsh needle]

@grave sparrow how are you reading the string table

[nimble parcel]

you’re missing at least one break statement

[nimble parcel]

there’s at most one per arch slice afaik

[nimble parcel]

yep, you can use the application_modern/application_swift template in Theos. It’ll build a deb by default, but you can use PACKAGE_FORMAT=ipa to build for jailed devices

there are still a few bits missing that prevent it from being a streamlined workflow (https://github.com/theos/theos/issues/286 is outdated but mentions some relevant stuff), but it gets the job done in a pinch

in fact most of the stuff mentioned in that issue is resolved now, which means the primary missing bits are

• asset catalog compilation
• better app extension support
• signing and sideloading (I’m working on this with Supercharge but you can use other tools to manually do this for now)

[indigo peak]

I had no idea PACKAGE_FORMAT was a thing, I was using a batch script that took the .app folder it generated and zipped it and renamed it to .ipa

😐

[wispy delta]

Thx

[runic echo]

could some one help me with simject installation ?

[silver rampart]

what issues are you having?

[runic echo]

it is saying ./configure: No such file or directory

[silver rampart]

where are you installing it from?

[runic echo]

terminal

[silver rampart]

like which git repo

there shouldn't be a ./configure file referenced anywhere in the install scripts, its all pure makefile

[runic echo]

https://github.com/akemin-dayo/simject

If you use Xcode 10 (and above) and target iOS 12 (and above), you need to rely on substitute rather than cycript's included CydiaSubstrate.framework.

https://github.com/sbingner/substitute

[harsh needle]

yeah i fixed that, i got link and text, not sure what struct the string table is tho

[ocean raptor]

#!/bin/sh
page=1
while [ $(curl -s https://api.github.com/orgs/apple-oss-distributions/repos\?per_page\=100\&page\=$page | jq '.[].full_name' | wc -l | xargs) -gt 0 ]; do
    for repo in $(curl -s https://api.github.com/orgs/apple-oss-distributions/repos\?per_page\=100\&page\=$page | jq -r '.[].full_name'); do
        git clone https://github.com/$repo --bare
    done
    page=$((page + 1))
done

[untold river]

should have also sprinkled in --depth 1

[ocean raptor]

I want the history though

it's only like 6G in total

[untold river]

lol

how long did it take

[lime pivot]

damn, that issue number is so low

[silver rampart]

i wonder if https://github.com/davidquesada/ibtool still works

have had it starred for like a year

[ocean raptor]

not too long

[harsh needle]

braindead, casted some load_commands to segment commands without actually reading sizeof segment command

[silver rampart]

i mean how is that an issue

as long as you're reading it in properly

only reason segment_command's size is relevant is for iterating through the list of lcs and checking the amount of sections in that segment_cmd

[harsh needle]

casting lc to segment wouldnt work since the size of lc is way shorter and the elements that go past the lc struct would be null

i also fucked up more shit since the link and text segment is the same pointer for me lol

[silver rampart]

oh yep

i just read the raw first 4 and 2nd 4 bytes as cmd and cmd_size before i load any actual structs from the bytes

so i know what struct i need to load in instead of needing to do it twice

[harsh needle]

for (int i = 0; i < header->ncmds; i++)
        {
            mach_vm_read_overwrite(task_port, load_command_offset, sizeof(load_command), (mach_vm_offset_t)cmd_buffer,
                                   &size_out);
            lc = (load_command *)cmd_buffer;

            if (lc->cmd & LC_REQ_DYLD)
            {
                lc->cmd &= ~LC_REQ_DYLD;
            }

            switch (lc->cmd)
            {
            case LC_SYMTAB: {
                printf("[+] LC_SYMTAB found.\n");
                symtab_lc = (symtab_command *)cmd_buffer;
            };
            case LC_SEGMENT_64: {
                mach_vm_read_overwrite(task_port, load_command_offset, sizeof(segment_command_64),
                                       (mach_vm_offset_t)cmd_segment_buffer, &size_out);

                sc = (segment_command_64 *)cmd_segment_buffer;

                switch (*(uintptr_t *)sc->segname)
                {
                case 92738097012575: { // __TEXT
                    printf("[+] __TEXT found.\n");
                    text = sc;
                    break;
                };
                case 4919420967581409119: { // __LINKEDIT
                    printf("[+] __LINKEDIT found.\n");
                    link = sc;
                    break;
                };
                }
            };
            }
```  im doing some crackhead shit

[harsh needle]

alright that does look correct other than the posts i have been looking at

[hardy glen]

this is the type of wallpaper i would expect @grave sparrow to have except in arm

[primal perch]

ldr x0, [x7]

[primal perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892782301266722866/940833886676594739/wBFdTg0meY4EAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg.png

[misty cradle]

RealityOS
we getting Apple VR
⁉️

[torn oriole]

RealityOS leek when

[feral heath]

and if you could downgrade to unsigned versions without blobs (untethered)

Would definitely go to 14.3

[harsh needle]

first thing ill do is remove malloc from the symbol table

unsafe

bad

[vivid dew]

go ahead

post a windows screenshot in unixporn and see how long it takes them to notice

[restive ether]

die

[misty cradle]

https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2022/02/09/open-app-store-principles-activision-blizzard/?preview_id=65043

.

Microsoft taking W’s only recently

[indigo peak]

fr
theos has so many little things, eg:
make do -> make package install

[misty cradle]

Microsoft’s choices after seeing what apple does

Developer Choice:
We will not require developers in our app store to use our payment system to process in-app payments.

We will not require developers in our app store to provide more favorable terms in our app store than in other app stores.

We will not disadvantage developers if they choose to use a payment processing system other than ours or if they offer different terms and conditions in other app stores.

[vivid dew]

microsoft being based for once

[gentle grove]

ill have to try it some time

ill say it's a kde setup

[misty cradle]

they been based the past few years

[gentle grove]

minecraft best

[lime pivot]

having basic business and legal sense*

Apple doomed themselves to have the rules be made up for them by politicians who will never understand their tech stack as well as they do, instead of them coming up with the rules

which will also affect Microsoft, even though they already probably are mostly in compliance with whatever bills get written up

related, Gruber, surprisingly, had a very down-to-earth piece on it and for once gave Apple shit for solving nothing and just dooming themselves to stronger regulation https://daringfireball.net/2022/02/going_dutch

[ocean raptor]

Pink Floyd is so good

🙃

[primal perch]

based

[lime pivot]

ok yeah actually that makes perfect sense

[misty cradle]

Microsoft been on the right path for the past years anyways

Especially on Xbox since Phil Spencer took charge of it

Without him, it would've died

[primal perch]

except for win 11

we just pretend that didnt get released yet

[misty cradle]

i only associate microsoft with xbox

windows is made by a different team.

[vivid dew]

xbox and windows will merge within 2 years

[lime pivot]

can't wait for Winbox

[vivid dew]

it's the most logical option

integrate the dashboard into windows proper, then make every xbox actually a windows pc that autoboots into that

with some sort of hammy option for making it work like normal windows

[hardy glen]

I think this would do real good on r/unixporn since its doing really good on the discord

[primal perch]

no neofetch

downvoted

[hardy glen]

I will never download neofetch

[lethal kayak]

true

[torn oriole]

True

[lethal kayak]

https://tenor.com/uJUr.gif

linux users typing neofetch

[torn oriole]

non neofetch users trying to flex their random abstract linux distribution

https://tenor.com/view/crying-bobux-0bobux-no-bobux-sad-gif-18569412

[gentle grove]

"abstract linux distribution"

[torn oriole]

*random

[gentle grove]

public interface Linux {
  List<Distribution> getDistributions();
}

am i doing this right

[torn oriole]

yes

[hardy glen]

I just use arch. Idk why i would need any other distro tbh

[primal perch]

btw

[hardy glen]

Unless you are a debian user then i guess living life like a pussy does not have any harms

[primal perch]

debian on servers 👌

[hardy glen]

Fax

Actually debian is stable asf so its good for beginners

[primal perch]

for all my computing though i stick with windows/macos dual boot

[hardy glen]

Less room to fuck up

I would use windows if i ever had the need to use visual studio or gaming

Which i probably will in the future

I used to main windows until i switched to arch. And now i dual boot arch/mac and also got a m1 air which i barely touch. I should start app dev with swift on m1 ngl

About to change my wallpaper to grass and turn down my terminal opacity for the next mfer that tells me to touch grass

[gentle grove]

touch pavement

[gentle grove]

send video of touching computer screen

[primal perch]

[gentle grove]

in order to touch the pavement

also that looks like a wooden deck

what does it look like without blur

[gentle grove]

that wasnt whta i had in mind for pavemtn

[gentle grove]

is that your hand

[hardy glen]

yea sure

i went out rn and touched a pavement

[primal perch]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-linux-users-gaming-computer-computers-gif-23121479

[gentle grove]

i wonder how many times that gif has been sent in this server

[hardy glen]

true

its ironic i suffered through that shit on windows 10 with my cpu being 100% for like 10 minutes straight because windows defender and 100 other things

actually back when i had a hdd my hdd would be at 100% usage like 24/7

[primal perch]

believable

windows is brutal on disk

[primal perch]

true

like honestly

at least it can

a program being open source doesnt change my usage of it at all

its just a moral flex

that linux users love to do

[tepid olive]

gimp users

[primal perch]

fr

[hardy glen]

idrgaf if its open source. one opensource shit i stand behind is probably neovim

[tepid olive]

gimp ui be like

[primal perch]

yeah i dont hate nvidias linux drivers because theyre closed source

i hate them because X runs like asswipe

[primal perch]

true

no i dont think i will

[hardy glen]

wait i heard pulseaudio is being replaced by pipeserver or someshit

[tepid olive]

catalina users are the windows 7 users of macos

[primal perch]

true

[primal perch]

pipewire

[hardy glen]

yea pipewire

[primal perch]

which is good tbh bc pulse sounds like butt

i can hear music being compressed in its mixer

compared to direct bitstream to my dac

[hardy glen]

yea i don't really listen to music on this shitty dell that much

[primal perch]

on windows and mac i dont bother with direct bc the mixers arent terrible

i just set 44.1khz 32bit and forget

anything above 16bit is a waste anyway but my dac does 32 bit so might as well

[hardy glen]

never tried wayland, idk if its stable enough for me to jump on. I would start hopping on the new wave of using pipewire/wayland etc but i want a stable system too

[primal perch]

since you dont game u probably could use it fine

its bad with gaming rn

[hardy glen]

so i guess i am just gonna wait till i get a pc and start using windows

lmao

[primal perch]

i think it still has forced vsync in games