development

[snow python]

Perhaps Im stupid hold on

Ok I'm not, it needs the file descriptor

[ocean raptor]

Looks like zebra doesn't support finish:

https://github.com/zbrateam/Zebra/blob/86312f07646dcbfa3fc44df4d90385cb5160f539/Zebra/Tabs/Packages/Helpers/ZBPackage.m#L82-L149

[snow python]

It doesnt, I'm working on it right now

[ocean raptor]

there is also uicache:(1|[Yy][Ee][Ss])

[snow python]

Can you expand that for me

[ocean raptor]

and finish:(return|reopen|restart|reload|reboot)

[snow python]

oh and all of them run uicache

k

[ocean raptor]

bro there are a lot

just do a case insentitve check for yes or 1

[vivid dew]

(1|[E-y]{3})

[grim sparrow]

Alternative solution, just do sbreload in postinst and hope you don’t break anything

Read the second part

[vivid dew]

you can do ( sleep 5; sbreload ) &

[grim sparrow]

That is very true

[vivid dew]

hopefully that 5 seconds is enough for whatever needs to happen

[ocean raptor]

finish:return - nothing
finish:reopen - reopen cydia/zebra/sileo
finish:restart - respring
finish:reload - sbreload
finish:reboot - ldrestart(?)

[grim sparrow]

Yes

[ocean raptor]

(I think from taking a 5 min look at MobileCydia.mm)

[grim sparrow]

Oh btw Cameron

[ocean raptor]

now I wanna burn my eyes out

[ocean raptor]

yes?

[grim sparrow]

I find it very funny how you made a funny remark about me taking an hour longer than I said to make a PR and now it’s been sat open for over a week

[vivid dew]

mobile cydia implies the existence of desktop cydia

[restive ether]

it’s not agnostic

[grim sparrow]

[ocean raptor]

doesn't support odysseyra1n

[ocean raptor]

or checkra1n

[grim sparrow]

I copied the logic from libhooker

Literally every jb that runs Procursus supports userspace reboot

[vivid dew]

i will make a truly free version of libhooker

[grim sparrow]

Why does the old logic need to exist

[vivid dew]

librehooker

[ocean raptor]

no, older odyssey versions didn't iirc

[grim sparrow]

It will do nothing then

If you call reboot3 and userspace reboot isn’t available nothing happens

[ocean raptor]

oh fr?

[grim sparrow]

So it will fall back to the previous logic

Making the if check slightly redundant looking back

[restive ether]

so you can just remove the plist part i guess

[grim sparrow]

It does appear that way

[ocean raptor]

is that true all the way back to iOS 11?

[grim sparrow]

I have no idea about 11

Do those 3 users care?

[restive ether]

no user space on 11

[ocean raptor]

ok, well 12 is the lowest target I care about actually

[restive ether]

no jailbreak supports that and pro doesn’t either

[grim sparrow]

So surely it’ll do nothing then

[ocean raptor]

uikittools-ng kinda supports it

[restive ether]

did you test every bin on 11 dog

[ocean raptor]

uikittools-ng is bootstrap agnostic after all

[restive ether]

does electra use ng on 11

[ocean raptor]

buy a correlium vm for me than

[restive ether]

pre-procursus ng obviously

[ocean raptor]

no

[grim sparrow]

Just use the free trial

[ocean raptor]

from uicache(1):

Later, it was reimplemented by CoolStar for the Chimera jailbreak on April 30, 2019.

[grim sparrow]

Nice

[ocean raptor]

can I be added to beta.anamy.gay? I'll merge your uikittools-ng PR tonight after I finish some physics hw

which I should be doing rn

[ocean raptor]

after I test it ofc

[grim sparrow]

If you remove that if check it should work fine

I tested it on checkra1n ora1n and taurine

[ocean raptor]

I would never merge something without testing it first

[grim sparrow]

But I know it works on latest chimera and odyssey

And it should be fine on older versions

[ocean raptor]

coolio, are there any jailbreaks that don't support userspace reboot

[restive ether]

rootless ?

does that count

[grim sparrow]

No

[restive ether]

then no

[ocean raptor]

my only device is running 14.8

[restive ether]

still waiting for check to fix their user space reboot bug

[ocean raptor]

gonna patch pongoOS to not enable it

[ocean raptor]

what's wrong with it?

[restive ether]

it mounts something every time you run it

[grim sparrow]

Apparently ur UDID is now added

[restive ether]

forget what it was

maybe it was binpack

[ocean raptor]

is reboot3 in xnu source?

[grim sparrow]

actually

lemme check something

which could simplify my code a lot

[grim sparrow]

i think so

see I'm just thinking now

could you check the return value of it

and then use that to see if it worked

yes

if ret != 0

something went wrong

[ocean raptor]

I mean, if it succeeds execution will end...

[grim sparrow]

not entirely

theres a slight delay

because it runs async

[tepid olive]

if ret > 0

[ocean raptor]

I can't believe they implemented reboot 3 times

[tepid olive]

best

[grim sparrow]

it will never be a negative

the internal implementation is just

if (ret) {
throw
}

[ocean raptor]

what's the difference between reboot, reboot2, and reboot3

[restive ether]

reboot so good they did it thrice

[tepid olive]

lovely

[tepid olive]

reboot my beloved

[ocean raptor]

reboot(2):

RETURN VALUES

If successful, this call never returns. Otherwise, a -1 is returned and an error is returned in the global variable errno.

https://man.cameronkatri.com/macOS/reboot.2

not sure about reboot2...

or reboot3

[tepid olive]

true

[restive ether]

malware pages

[tepid olive]

“never negative”

it’s always better practice smh

[grim sparrow]

1994 docs lied to me

[tepid olive]

i wish swift could have functions that exit a closure or something

i’m not sure how to say it

[grim sparrow]

you mean

[ocean raptor]

reboot2() returns itself...

void *
reboot2(uint64_t flags)
{
    mach_port_t rootbs = MACH_PORT_NULL;
    (void)bootstrap_get_root(bootstrap_port, &rootbs);
    if (vproc_mig_reboot2(rootbs, flags) == 0) {
        (void)mach_port_deallocate(mach_task_self(), rootbs);
        return NULL;
    }

    return reboot2;
}

[grim sparrow]

return

[tepid olive]

func something() {}
guard true else { something() }

[ocean raptor]

https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/launchd/blob/main/liblaunch/libvproc.c#L902

[tepid olive]

and something does the return implicitly

[grim sparrow]

return something()

its not that bad

[ocean raptor]

thats why you use exit()

[grim sparrow]

which would do what you asked

[tepid olive]

yea true

[grim sparrow]

just not the best way

just show a warning asking the user to restart the app

[ocean raptor]

ok, is reboot3() a syscall or a function?

[grim sparrow]

it exists

[ocean raptor]

I'm gonna throw it into ida ghidra

to see what it's actually doing

and what it returns

[tepid olive]

@grim sparrow if it was a thing reimplementing fatalError 1:1 would be possible to use a custom logging system

idk

[ocean raptor]

I'm on FreeBSD

[grim sparrow]

yeah

but like

avoid fatalErrors anyway

[ocean raptor]

gonna do this after I finish this hw 😭

bye

[tepid olive]

overriding fatalError like i do print

[restive ether]

nerd

[grim sparrow]

I was right

[ocean raptor]

be back in like an hour or two

[grim sparrow]

reboot3 is only ever positive

or 0

[restive ether]

nerd

[tepid olive]

ok but what if you are a reboot 2 user

[restive ether]

what are you on ios 3?

[tepid olive]

@nonreturning func piss() { fatalError(“anal”) }

would be fun

[grim sparrow]

int ret = reboot3(RB_HALT);
if (ret)
  INFO_LOG("Failed to shutdown");

why

lol

true

thats taken from powermanagement

source

[tepid olive]

nfr

[grim sparrow]

somewhere theres probably a list of defines

[tepid olive]

was keychain source published intentionally in the end

[restive ether]

putting pmset on procursus

[grim sparrow]

as to what the error is

it is currently 2:38am

is it in my best interest to sleep or keep studying

[tepid olive]

Seek therapy

https://github.com/evelyneee/accord/blob/main/Accord/Backend/RPC/IPC.swift

Should i finish this

?

that’s the real version

i really have no idea what i’m doing if you can’t tell

[primal perch]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-emotes-thumbs-up-smile-gif-14309344

[tepid olive]

[ocean raptor]

which do you want?

[grim sparrow]

reboot3

[ocean raptor]

no, like which ones? all of them? and you want the defines for reboot3(flag)'s flag, right?

[grim sparrow]

no

the return value

I have all the flags

[ocean raptor]

oh, not sure if I have that

[grim sparrow]

int ret = reboot3(poo);

list of defines for ret

[ocean raptor]

I'll let you know when I get to my computer

[grim sparrow]

i.e. what error they are associated with

[ocean raptor]

I have one question than 4 pages to read, than I get them for you (if they exist)

[ocean raptor]

@grim sparrow

@result
NULL if the operation began successfully, non-NULL if there was a failure.
In the event of a failure, errno will be set to an error code describing the
failure

[grim sparrow]

That’s cool

[ocean raptor]

wait no

that's reboot2

@result
Zero if the reboot operation began successfully, otherwise an error 
describing the failure.

this is reboot3()

oh weird, it has va_args...

ah, some types of reboots have args

[grim sparrow]

began

Meaning it could run async

However

hmm

yeah it may be worth just doing a check ngl

[silver rampart]

m yess reboot0-9

[grim sparrow]

I wonder who has the job of deciding when to make a new one

Person just woke up and chose violence by making reboot4

[vivid dew]

i'll skip 4

[restive ether]

thank you for your contribution, can’t wait for reboot5

[primal perch]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-emotes-laugh-smile-king-gif-14309345

bozo

[ocean raptor]

@grim sparrow your PR looks fine and I want to merge it but testing it is a huge pain, cause 1. I have to figure out how to force it to fail to make sure the ldrestart continues like it should and 2. if it fails and does a full reboot I can't rejailbreak unless I boot into odysseyn1x

and merging something without testing is very unlike me

ooh, new sileo icons

[primal perch]

merge without test is the way

[ocean raptor]

nah, that is very unlike me

[ocean raptor]

smh

[restive ether]

totally out of character

[restive ether]

test with an old chimera / odyssey build

if you don’t have the devices make keto do it

troll

[ocean raptor]

my only device is on 14.8

[hardy glen]

This is why you steal ur family members old phones

[ocean raptor]

I did

[restive ether]

not enough apparently

[ocean raptor]

but they got taken from me when I was grounded and this is the only one I got back

[restive ether]

sometimes i be forgetting not all of you are as boomer as i

[analog echo]

if ( (*(_DWORD *)((_BYTE *)&_vm_region_recurse_64 ) & 0xFFFFFC1F) == 0xD61F0000 )

Can someone tell me what's going on here. This is decomp output from a function used for jailbreak detection (I think?) It's getting the address of vm_region_recurse_64and dereferencing it? but why

that's used as a guard clause to break out of the function but i don't get why

[restive ether]

nice profile picture dog

[analog echo]

hm this is IDAs decomp

[hollow harbor]

Can you make a tweak in

Swift?

[exotic spire]

Considering this JSON:

            "user1": {
                name = 'John',
                surname = 'Doe'
            }
            "user2": {
                name = 'Michael'
            }
        }

How would you retrieve the list of usernames in Python?

I need this output:

user1
user2

I tried this approach, but it just prints the whole list of data:

for user in user_data:
  print(user_data[user])

lemme try

[untold river]

i think just list(dict) should do

there's ten ways to do anything in python

only one pythonic way thoufh

[primal perch]

the real python way would be importing a library

[untold river]

think that's the rust way

🚀

[primal perch]

fast 🚀 safe 🚀 maintainable 🚀

[exotic spire]

This worked, I had no idea this existed

[untold river]

minimal 🚀, blazing-fast 🚀 , customizable 🚀 , memory safe 🚀 program written in Rust 🚀

[exotic spire]

Yeah I only needed the actual key, to replace the value I can do it other ways

[vivid dew]

the apple engineer when he enables the arm64e abi for appstore apps:

d61f deez nuts

[exotic spire]

I retract myself from this statement lol

@grave sparrow wanna see me screw up code live

imagine having classes in january

[untold river]

you can upload to app store connect too

assuming 15.2+

[exotic spire]

I'm trying to print now all the values within

for data in user_data['user1']
    print(user_data[data])

Expecting:

name = 'John',
surname = 'Doe'

[vivid dew]

d61f0000 is br x0

[primal perch]

brx0

[vivid dew]

no idea why that would appear as the first instruction of anything

trolley

[primal perch]

void trolling(void (*gaming)(void)) {
       gaming();
   }```

that

[vivid dew]

inlined

[primal perch]

you asked

[analog echo]

yep it's checking against br x0

[vivid dew]

me trolling tweak developers by putting in fake checks

[analog echo]

but why vm_region_recurse_64

[primal perch]

me hiding racial slurs in tweak binaries

theres one in settingswidgets at offset 0xb0??

do you need to write that like an essay

[primal perch]

real

hoes

[analog echo]

ugh

[vivid dew]

it would be really funny if apple allowed appstore apps to modify pages

[primal perch]

it would

theres no jit so yeah

[vivid dew]

everything would have custom encryption like on android

[primal perch]

ill just go buy an android and stop getting updates in 30 days

[analog echo]

and that function is called from __mod_init_func

[primal perch]

mod innit func

briish

[primal perch]

oi do you have a loicense for that bu'er knife there

[vivid dew]

i only have a porn license

[primal perch]

f#Q4fa

[primal perch]

IDA Pro 7.7 SP 1 Crack 2022 Full No Survey No Virus

dm for link

[west raft]

you so guys making code for tweaks whilst i’m out here doing blocks for the micro:bit

[torn oriole]

An arduino aimed at education more or less

[rapid arrow]

Hi, I have this problem. I run openvpn connect (iOS 14.7.1, u0), but not all traffic is routed over the VPN, this affects mainly Apple services (apns, iMessage). I figured out this is due to the ContentFilterExclusionList in the Info.plist of the NetworkExtension.framework (/S/L/Frameworks/NetworkExtension.framework). Would it be safe/even possible to just edit the plist and remove the entry, or would it be better to develop a theos tweak to hook the plist reading to not return the values (problem is I have no experience with theos and objc). Thanks for your help.

[lime pivot]

the best approach would be to hook wherever in NE.framework it reads that list into memory, it might be a pretty easy tweak to make actually. but if you're just wanting this for yourself, you might be able to get away with just editing that plist manually (keep a backup of the original file before you change it)

I believe this exclusion list has been super cut down in iOS 15 by the way, there were complaints about it being so broad

    0 => "/System/Library/Frameworks/NetworkExtension.framework/PlugIns/NEIKEv2Provider.appex"
    1 => "/usr/libexec/nesessionmanager"
    2 => "/usr/libexec/neagent"
    3 => "/usr/sbin/racoon"
    4 => "/usr/sbin/pppd"
    5 => "/System/Library/PreferencePanes/Network.prefPane/Contents/XPCServices/com.apple.preference.network.remoteservice.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.preference.network.remoteservice"
    6 => "/System/Library/Frameworks/SystemConfiguration.framework/Versions/A/Helpers/SCHelper"
  ]```this is what I have on macOS 12.1

so if you want to cut it down, I'd recommend filtering it down to just those (#5 wouldn't exist on iOS, not sure what the equivalent would be)

[rapid arrow]

Yeah people complained about it on sur so Apple removed it in the later versions, there were a lot of news articles about it

Thanks btw I’ll look into it

[ocean raptor]

Updating cydia to use libapt-pkg6 is surprisingly difficult 😭 @restive ether @lime pivot

[ocean raptor]

Cydia uses like every single deprecated method

But deprecated to the point of removal

Not just compiler time warning

[untold river]

thanks person with manage messages perms

idk im being non-specific by default

[primal perch]

[restive ether]

that’s awesome bro

[indigo peak]

[merry glade]

gm

[ocean raptor]

😭

[ocean raptor]

Why am I doing this? Cydia is gonna die in iOS 15 so there is literally no point

[restive ether]

memes

[ocean raptor]

Boomer memes

BoomerInstaller.app moment

[rapid arrow]

so I experimented with the NetworkExtension framework, but it's not behaving as I expected, I removed the exclusionlist entries, but nothing changed, so I decided to add another app there, I put in the bundle id of the Speedtest app (com.ookla.speedtest) and expected it to show my original ip and not the vpns, but it was still being routed thru the vpn. I did a ldrestart and launchctl reboot userspace. could it be that I need a full reboot (which will unjailbreak) or is it more likely that I'm just hacking at the wrong file?

[restive ether]

my dad is in jail

[celest quiver]

weird flex but ok

[rapid arrow]

i might be approaching this wrong, this is a statement from some vpn company from when the problem was in big sur, the routing issue is probably not related to the content filter exclusion list as a vpn is not like a firewall/blocker/something

[karmic dirge]

can I "simulate" collecting daily tasks in a mobile game via requests from my PC?
example: collect hourly coins in Soccer Stars via API request from PC

[warped hawk]

where is actual exploit development discussed? are there any open forums where people collaboratively develop jailbreak exploits?

[ocean raptor]

hackdifferent

https://hackdiffe.rent/

but most vulnerabilities used in jailbreaks are found individually

[warped hawk]

@ocean raptor thanks

[faint timber]

https://hackdiffe.rent/apple-knowledge/

[ocean raptor]

@faint timber did you ever get to test ldid with that one commit reverted on your A15?

[faint timber]

@ocean raptor I can now I just charged all my devices if you want me to test on all of them lol

[ocean raptor]

Yes please

These artifacts https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/ldid/actions/runs/1719182850

Or you can just checkout the fix-15.1 branch

[faint timber]

none of my devices have ever touched 15.1 tho

thats no the problem I've been having

[ocean raptor]

I know

I named it that cause I reverted the patch I did for 15.1 which according to git bisect is what caused the issue

[faint timber]

that if sha1 line broke passwordless somehow?

[ocean raptor]

Technically it should be called fix-authority but I'm lazy

[ocean raptor]

I tested master and that branch using a cert without a password

On M1

Both worked

[faint timber]

iPod 5: 7.1.1
5s: 7.1.2
iPhone 6s: 14.8
iPhone X: 14.5.1
iPhone 13 Pro: 15.0

are these fine for testing?

[ocean raptor]

Yep

Perfect

What hashes does iOS actually support? Just sha256 and sha1? Or do they also support sha512 etc

[grim sparrow]

CryptoKit has sha256 512 and 1

[restive ether]

more like Crypto Cringe am i right

[ocean raptor]

Test with and without -Hsha256

[grim sparrow]

see

the thing is

to use sha1

you have to accept a warning will forever be in your code

as its like

thats not allowed

[restive ether]

SHA-1 more like mega cringe ha!

[grim sparrow]

its even marked as part of insecure

[faint timber]

@ocean raptor

passwordless no work

[ocean raptor]

Ummm

[faint timber]

my p12 doesn't have a password

[ocean raptor]

Is this the artifacts?

[faint timber]

yes

[ocean raptor]

M1? x86?

[faint timber]

x86_64

I'm on a ryzentosh

[woeful scaffold]

https://stackoverflow.com/a/56619466 Anyone know what the "packageID" param is here?

[faint timber]

the literal package id...

eg:

net.angelxwind.appsyncunified

[woeful scaffold]

I meant how is the function in the answer reading the packageid

[faint timber]

its user input

-I means info not install

-i is install

and install would be a file path to the deb

-I info is for the package id already installed

[woeful scaffold]

Really all I want to know is just how to run commands with obj-c

because no answer is direct

it's either in swift or just says "use x header"

[faint timber]

nstask is correct but objective c is a boomer language

[woeful scaffold]

Go ahead then, explain how to hook swift

[faint timber]

orion

[woeful scaffold]

those bastards lied to me

[faint timber]

oh

yah idk

its probably pinned tho

[ocean raptor]

@faint timber try this bin....

[faint timber]

no crash

[ocean raptor]

So it fixed the issue that you opened the issue for

But it GH actions' x86_64 macOS build is not working correctly

[faint timber]

it still can't validate the codesignature when I install it tho

[ocean raptor]

Oh...

Does codesign -dvvv show the authority?

[faint timber]

that was the original problem too

also it doesn't install on my X either

not just an iOS 15 issue

[ocean raptor]

Ok, so the authority is getting set now

But it still doesn't work?

[faint timber]

yep

codesign still works with the same app

[ocean raptor]

Would you be able to run a git bisect for me?

[faint timber]

maybe I'm using ldid wrong for valid codesigning?

tried these two formats

[ocean raptor]

Try just ldid -Kkey.p12 -Sents.plist whatever.app

[ocean raptor]

(I've never tested this, I just know ldid supports specifying a .app as the file to sign)

[faint timber]

still failed lol

[tepid olive]

why do you need to hook swift

???

You’re trying to run commands

[faint timber]

lmfao

braindead moment

[ocean raptor]

@tepid olive what's the proper way to legit sign an app with ldid?

[tepid olive]

bending down and praying

[ocean raptor]

True

[faint timber]

let me ask bingner

[ocean raptor]

I doubt he'll know

[grim sparrow]

@snow python

[snow python]

Lmao

[primal perch]

ayoo kermit getting laid

[grim sparrow]

Doing better than 99% of rjb

[indigo peak]

kermit the flop used to be my old discord name

🤞 🤞

[tepid olive]

did kermit consent

[primal perch]

[vivid dew]

https://tenor.com/view/mickey-moue-how-to-kill-read-reading-planning-gif-5173960

[hardy glen]

Depends on what type of class/method you need to hook.

https://www.securify.nl/en/blog/hooking-swift-methods-for-fun-and-profit/

this is pretty informative

[karmic dirge]

bump

[primal perch]

yes

[weary heath]

Didn’t we give you resources you could use to do that like a month ago

[hardy glen]

Mitmproxy

N check the requests being sent

Then just make a python script or use httpie to send the request

[weary heath]

And as long as there's no token that's generated for each request by the app

[hardy glen]

Unless they change their auth key lmao

Yea

Yup mitmproxy gives you the option to export to curl

[weary heath]

User-Agent: python3.9

[hardy glen]

Yup use mitmproxy, export curl command and use https://curlconverter.com

Its handy asf

I still haven’t finished mine

I am in calculus 2 and we are reviewing on calc 1 since we are going to be using everything we learned in calc 1

It sucks

[karmic dirge]

completely true, just wanted to double check on it

[hardy glen]

Uh idek what year, i am in community college rn finishing general ed so i can transfer to a another college. I am 3rd year but i barely took classes the 1st year since i was working full time

No i am completing my general ed before going to a 4 year lmao

Saving money

Its the smarter way, alot of people that were way smarter than me in HS ended up doing that, you would think they went straight to a ivy league or a good college or something

[tepid olive]

@grave sparrow

last

last

[primal perch]

see they probably don’t have 100k

[tepid olive]

im still last

[primal perch]

just like 99% of us

[tepid olive]

@grave sparrow

give me zefram

[hardy glen]

Exactly, idek what college i wanna go to. Right now i am completing all required courses for UC schools

Since i live in cali

[primal perch]

hell even if i did have 100 grand i wouldn’t go an ivy league

[hardy glen]

Yes

[tepid olive]

r word

im in quebec

[hardy glen]

Starting my lemonade stand

[primal perch]

[tepid olive]

n

erd

i forgot to finish my word mb

[indigo peak]

dont you live somewhere on the east coast

like fucking vermont or something

[restive ether]

your mom and i got a summer home in vermont

[lime pivot]

lmaooo

[lime pivot]

if someone gave me 100k to go to college I’d go to the cheapest non-garbage one I can find and pocket the rest

I mean, in Australia a CS degree is like $35k

so if you gave me 100k for that you’re crazy but I’ll take it as a gift for my startup 🙃

[rain falcon]

nfr

[indigo peak]

idk man

i dont think anyone lives in vermont

tbh

[glacial matrix]

Take a flight to Argentina and uni is $0

[indigo peak]

I don’t wanna go all the way to Argentina, europe smells bad

[misty cradle]

americans.

[indigo peak]

American geography moment

Okay I’m not that dumb, I know that Argentina is in Asia

Not Europe

🙄

[misty cradle]

argentina

asia.

[indigo peak]

[misty cradle]

dumbass fiore.

didn't expect anything different though.

[indigo peak]

ok but fr though

I’m not that dumb

It’s in Antarctic

See the A’s match up

So it’s the capitol

And since it’s freezing there, no one wants to go to school there

That’s why tuition is free

Obviously

[misty cradle]

shut the fuck up.

[indigo peak]

[ocean raptor]

who wants to jailbreak their iOS 12 device with chimera 1.5.x for me?

[indigo peak]

bro I have a 5s but idk the password on it

it’s a long story

[ocean raptor]

umm, restore with ipsw...

then do a icloud bypass

[indigo peak]

definitely not related to this message but

Checkra1n doesn’t work on a7 Linux

Because devs are shit

[lime pivot]

I took a flight to Argentina to get cheap youtube premium 🙃

[glacial matrix]

I mean, you weren’t wrong. It’s in America. Just like I’m an American, just not from the United States of AMERICA

[glacial matrix]

I’m paying a family plan for Spotify and I’m paying cents; don’t tell them

[lime pivot]

man I want to try and get cheaper Spotify family but if I touch anything about my subscription, they'll force me to enter my address

on principle I just don't want them to have it, even though it is my real family on there not my friends

[indigo peak]

i have a family plan with 5 of my friends and my friends dad pays for it

[lime pivot]

[restive ether]

did they ever do the thing they planned on doing which involved stalking the members on the plan to make sure they lived together

[glacial matrix]

Clearly not

[restive ether]

sucks to suck

[lime pivot]

you have to provide address now, but I'm not sure if they even enforce the rules

I don't know how they even can

what if I travel for a month, will spotify yell at me that I don't live at my home address any more

well "have to provide" --> if you sign up fresh for family plan or make any changes to an existing family plan

[restive ether]

probably would

[lime pivot]

dad ended up making a 2nd spotify login because idfk how, and I can't even change his email on the family plan cause I have to give address first

I prolly should have showed him songshift now I think of it, oops

[restive ether]

i haven’t gotten song shift to work properly since apple changed their API

what a shame

[ocean raptor]

I have a family plan

they probably have my address

[ocean raptor]

it's great except that my dad disabled explicit songs

can someone test this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688122301975363591/935367482854768730/ldrestart and lmk if it works

[vivid dew]

doesn't work on windows

[ocean raptor]

thanks guys, very helpful

[weary heath]

My family account is in the US while I’m in EU, I don’t think they enforce it

When you join the family you just have to provide the address, don’t need to be there at that time

Unless they changed that since

[sour halo]

Doesn't work on macos

[ocean raptor]

🙄

[sour halo]

Ok so what do you want me to do with this

[ocean raptor]

sudo ./ldrestart

[glacial matrix]

Or su -c ./ldrestart?

[ocean raptor]

or that, yeah

[weary heath]

Or su -c sudo ./ldrestart

[tepid olive]

why do you Use Windows

[sour halo]

Is it gonna fuck my shit

Like real ldrestard

[ocean raptor]

it will userspace reboot, but if that fails than it will ldrestart

ldrestart -luv 👀 @restive ether

@grim sparrow how do you feel about adding options to ldrestart to

1. skip userspace reboot
2. print the error message from reboot3() (fprintf(stderr, "Warning: userspace reboot failed: %s\n", xpc_strerror(userspaceError)))
3. don't ldrestart if userspace fails

[snow python]

sudo su -c sudo ./ldrestart

[faint timber]

bruhh

[snow python]

ah yes version f365fe, a good vintage

[hardy glen]

If i found a vulnerability in a service’s network api that allows me to change crucial information about my profile that should only be changed by an admin. What should i do

Should i report it, or just keep my mouth shut lmao

[indigo peak]

chariz 😄

[untold river]

pickax 😁

[glacial matrix]

Is that a desirable default?
You could have -u for userspace reboot and -s for systemwide reboot (or something)
And always print error messages somewhere (unless you add a verbose flag)

[ocean raptor]

I decided on always printing to error and adding -f to force a normal ldrestart instead of a userspace reboot

but we still need a way to detect if userspace reboot is supported

https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/uikittools-ng/pull/46#issuecomment-1020827514

It was also brought to my attention that checking the return of reboot3() will not work as a gauge for whether userspace reboots work. For example, on versions of Odyssey before 1.3.0, reboot3() will work but jailbreakd will not persist, losing the jailbreak. This will also not work on Checkra1n, where a userspace reboot will appear to work fine but actually cause issues.

[lime pivot]

huh really, it's broken on checkrain? like what happens?

is the answer possibly that loaderd doesn't survive the restart? considering it lives in the dmg, which I have a feeling could become unmounted due to the restart

loaderd or payload, can't remember what the process name is now

[restive ether]

luv restart

[lime pivot]

🥰

[primal perch]

innit

[restive ether]

on check it gets mounted every time you run userspace

so you can have like 60 instances if you try hard enough

[lime pivot]

oops

has, uh

[primal perch]

release a semi untether that doesn’t ruin ios core services challenge

(impossible)

[lime pivot]

has someone actually reported this to the checkrain bugs repo

[restive ether]

probably not i don’t think anyones noticed because they take up such a minimal amount of memory no one would notice it unless they were looking real hard

[lime pivot]

sounds like at least you know and should have reported it 😬

[restive ether]

someone showed me it, i’ve never used a checkm8 based jailbreak before i assumed they would’ve reported it

[lime pivot]

aha fair

just would have been nice to fix, like, long ago, hah

considering that code has only changed minimally since initial release

[restive ether]

judging by my quick issue searching it doesn’t look like they did and i’m forgetting who showed me it

you can probably easily check to confirm it’s still an issue and someone hasn’t accidentally fixed it, but i doubt there’s been a new release since i last heard about the issue

[lime pivot]

only time that code has changed as far as I remember is because some iOS release (14? a point release? idk) broke it very subtly

so either we fixed it by luck then, or it's still broken, I guess

[primal perch]

14 brought in the sep so they had to work around that

for a7-a10 it wasn’t too big of an issue

[lime pivot]

not talking about that

it was specifically that dmg mount broke

[primal perch]

o

[restive ether]

ah i found who showed me

it was nick

#840294945553907763 message

very nice

it seems like a rather inconsistent issue though

[lime pivot]

lmao

to your credit you suggested reporting it #840294945553907763 message

oh well

[restive ether]

yeah i just read that

better late than never i suppose

i hope someone can reproduce it at a minimum and it’s not nick being bored and breaking it somehow like he usually does

[lime pivot]

heh, well it’s an edge case for sure but still one that should be fixed

[ocean raptor]

Not an edge case, it happens every single time I userspace reboot

[primal perch]

anyone have any tricks to like

do stuff

[crimson plover]

I exported a React Native project into a payload folder, sent to zip, changed the zip file type to .ipa. I'm getting this error when I try installing the .ipa to a jailbroken device. Anyone know how to fix this?

[indigo peak]

maaaannnnn

fuck react native

[indigo peak]

just don’t not don’t

[primal perch]

wut

[crimson plover]

Is Theos better? For app development

[primal perch]

my brain cells

[primal perch]

yea

make do

repeat

[crimson plover]

Is there a way to use react native at all for this? Because I have a strong web dev background so react native is much easier to use than theos

[primal perch]

yes

[indigo peak]

Just when you don’t do something, don’t do that, but since you wanna do something, don’t not do the not-ing

[primal perch]

import react frameworks

[primal perch]

thanks i’m cured

@crimson plover you’ll want to setup theos via the guide

then make a new app project

then add the react frameworks

[indigo peak]

https://theos.dev

[primal perch]

and then you can build it however you would in xcode

[indigo peak]

Is it a private framework

[primal perch]

i mean it’s a public sdk

so

[indigo peak]

So is it just TWEAKNAME_FRAMEWORKS

and what would the name be

react-native

?

[primal perch]

you have to add them manually i think

an then do that

yea whatever the name is

[indigo peak]

Idk the name, was asking if you knew it

[primal perch]

no

[crimson plover]

I have theos installed already. On win 10

[primal perch]

i don’t use shit frameworks

[indigo peak]

[crimson plover]

wsl linux

[indigo peak]

I swear by the time I finish tweaking discord, they’re gonna switch to a native app

professional developer

sexy theme 100/10

[crimson plover]

Do you guys think it's smart to program an ios app on visual code using theos?

[indigo peak]

that’s what I do

[crimson plover]

Without xcode

[indigo peak]

wsl Linux theos and use vscode

[crimson plover]

Sweet that's my setup

I have a lot of confusion with theos tho

[high citrus]

I mean react native is basically javascript so

[indigo peak]

It’s not that hard

[crimson plover]

It's just cuz I've never used it

[indigo peak]

@lime pivot react native theos template wen?

fair enough

It’s pretty straightforward

I think

[crimson plover]

I tested exporting the template of swift_app (option 4) using make. Works great

But

I have no idea where to start with my code 😂

I see the table thing they have going

[indigo peak]

start your code in one of the .swift files

Duh

🗿

[primal perch]

wen you upload it

[crimson plover]

Ik ik

[primal perch]

git pull

[indigo peak]

bruh moment

I want to make a theos template

And then I get a contribute on the repo

???

And then I get advanced dev

profit.

[restive ether]

waiting for the safari extension template

[indigo peak]

If I get advanced dev for it

[primal perch]

yea dawg

you will

[indigo peak]

fo sho

[crimson plover]

What's the easiest way to install libs to a theos project?

Can you do it from the command line?

Or do you have to install from git and place in a lib folder?

[primal perch]

most people add it to $THEOS/lib and then just add a line in male file

makefile

or just add a lib or framework folder to project root and add -L./lib to ldflags

[indigo peak]

male file
Tweak.male

It’s how iOS caches your emales

[ocean raptor]

Wrong, every tweak dev is trans, it should be Tweak.female

[indigo peak]

I am not trans.

[primal perch]

same

[ocean raptor]

Wrong

[primal perch]

lmao true tho

[ocean raptor]

Finally getting my thigh socks 🙏

[primal perch]

every linux user be like

[crimson plover]

@primal perch Okay cool. First option sounds the easiest. So I'd add a line like this: 'demo2_FRAMEWORKS = UIKit CoreGraphics', but where would I reference the library file location?

To the makefile ^

[primal perch]

tweak_LDFLAGS = -L./liblocation

or something else for frameworks i haven’t used clang in a while

[woeful scaffold]

i just deleted my entire linux install because swift wouldn't work

[crimson plover]

I'm trying to export a theos project using the SwiftUI framework, but every time I open the app on a jailbroken device, it crashes instantly.

[indigo peak]

Do you have a crash reporter installed?

[[cr4shed]]

[faint lion]

Cr4shed

A modern crash reporter for iOS

Author

Muirey03

Version

4.2.2

Price

Free

Repo

Packix

Bundle ID

com.muirey03.cr4shed

Powered by Canister · Jan 25, 2022, 5:03 PM

[crimson plover]

Let me install it

It's ios 13.3.1

iphone 7

As I suspected, it was from trying to load the SwiftUI framework

Does anyone know where the sourcecode is for SwiftUI?

This is the log

[ocean raptor]

Not SwiftUI, but I reimplementation of it https://github.com/TokamakUI/Tokamak

[woeful scaffold]

what am I forgetting

[crimson plover]

@grave sparrow I created a new swift app and only have a view with Text("Hello World"). I'm still getting the same error. Also, I have support in the make file for ios 7.0-14.5

The default for new projects is 7.0 so I just kept it as is

And no, it's as basic as possible

Where is armv7?

So change

TARGET = iphone:clang:latest:7.0

to

TARGET = iphone:clang:latest:11.0

[primal perch]

no keep armv7

what about the 2 people using iphone 5

[crimson plover]

Lol

I changed to 11.0 and compiled

Same error w/ the symbol

I installed on an iphone 8 with ios 13.6.1 and same error

I am literally only trying to make SwiftUI work on a jailbroken app. Idk why this is so difficult. Thus why I wanted to code this app in react

[primal perch]

ghost blah blah blah

[crimson plover]

I only have SDK 14.5 installed

Could that have something to do with it?

[primal perch]

it should’ve thrown a compile time warning if it was 14 only

and asked you to wrap it in @available

[crimson plover]

Note that I am doing this on linux

[primal perch]

no wonder

/s

[crimson plover]

It doesn't compile the same as xcode

I may need to

lmao I feel like a noob with theos. I appreciate your efforts capt

I may need to reverse engineer an IPA

You may be able to help me read assembly

[ocean raptor]

@grave sparrow can zefram hook swift?

cool

zefram is for macOS right?

SIP needs to be disabled, I assume

[restive ether]

yeah i can

[indigo peak]

fr

[primal perch]

[indigo peak]

parker-stephens 🙏

no way

capt face reveal

[tepid olive]

why are you using NSTask

it’s called Process now

no

no he won’t

[indigo peak]

ok add me

[tepid olive]

there’s enough people

[indigo peak]

im not a person

im an italian

i dont think he needs anymore context, right

[image]
your mom thinks it will be a good idea to add me to the gc

[crimson plover]

@tepid olive Using theos, is there a way to have swiftUI applications on ios 13?

[tepid olive]

Yes

[misty cradle]

add me to the group chat

shutup capt

i am 18 now

i am mature now.

@wild hatch

?

[restive ether]

joe

[indigo peak]

too much work

[crimson plover]

Is there any reference code for doing that?

[misty cradle]

add me to group

[indigo peak]

if i was in le group i would

but im not

[misty cradle]

L

@grave sparrow add me into group.

in a group everyone can add

[crimson plover]

Oooof

[misty cradle]

scammer 😔

@balmy mantle

.

which slurs do i call him to add me

he not even asian.

[indigo peak]

ill call him italian slurs

[misty cradle]

@grave sparrow what is the name of the group chat called

[grim sparrow]

@misty cradle L

[misty cradle]

ok everyone agree please

thank you

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[grim sparrow]

buy me a new macbook

and I'll add you

[misty cradle]

i am broke.

i have less than 36 euro on my bank account

😔

[grim sparrow]

just make akara 2

[misty cradle]

these mfs are broke @grim sparrow

we need new hype

when ios 15 jb

[grim sparrow]

omw to release

[indigo peak]

thakn you 🙏

[misty cradle]

@grave sparrow how many have agreed yet??????????????

read.

[restive ether]

there was a tweet in response to tanner by an apple engineer lemme find it

[ocean raptor]

I though tale is Indian

[misty cradle]

yeah he is

[ocean raptor]

Then he is Asian

[restive ether]

one would not typically call that asian

[misty cradle]

^

[tepid olive]

working on it

[misty cradle]

ok

[ocean raptor]

https://twitter.com/pedantcoder/status/1282383317346611200?s=21

Pierre H. 🔥🌸 (@pedantcoder)

@NSExceptional @mikeash My guess is that you're destroying dyld3. So you likely have a cost of somewhere between 100 to 200M system wide of extra dirty memory because of throwing away all the dyld3 closures for 1st party code (see WWDC talk from last year on the subject).

Twitter · Jul 12, 2020, 6:36 PM

There's a whole thread, but that's the important part

Basically injecting into every process stops the closures from being used

[rapid arrow]

Hi, I'm really sorry that I'm bothering you again, but I'm really confused by this. To recap the issue:

iOS does not tunnel all traffic through NE Packet Tunnel Provider VPNs (I don't know how it is with native ipsec). A lot of Apple services seem to be exempt ( I noticed APNS, iMessage and Facetime mainly) This is also mentioned on the OpenVPN (app uses ne packet tunnel provider, I checked that) website: Apple services such as Push Notifications and FaceTime never route through a VPN tunnel, per Apple policy..

• I went and found that there used to be an issue in Big Sur, regarding firewalls not blocking certain Apple services. It was an entry in the Info.plist of the NE framework containing a list of executables/bundle IDs etc. called ContentFIlterExclusionList. Editing it in macOS supposedly fixed the issue and it was later removed altogether in Monterey due to public backlash (probably) - https://tinyapps.org/blog/202010210700_whose_computer_is_it.html

• As per suggestion from this Discord I tried editing the plist and removing the entries. This however caused no change even after a ldrestart or userspace reboot. I also tried adding in a bundle ID of another app to test whether it would get routed outside the VPN but again, nothing. I even tried a full reboot and rejailbreak (at that point I was on a different device and just adding the new bundle, not removing the og ones, but still, nothing)

• I read some more and got confused whether the ContentFilterExclusionList affected only like content blockers/firewalls or also VPNs and got some conflicting information, but it does seem it should also affect VPNs

• After this confusion I went and examined other frameworks (running strings on the executable) and plists related to networking, but couldn't find any trace of a similar list. Besides, NetworkExtension is the framework related to the VPN stuff, it should be there. It also doesn't seem to be enforced on the app side (nothing in strings on OpenVPN binaries, or Passepartout (oss openvpn reimplementation for ios/macos) code on github)

• Checking the route table also yielded nothing, no strange routes everything seemed to be set to go thru the utun device when VPN was connected

• Another interesting thing is that the ExclusionList while removed in Monterey is still present in iOS 15

• To add insult to injury when wireshark sniffing the traffic from my iPhone (14.7.1, u0), all sorts of crap was running outside the VPN, well mainly APNS and I was trying iMessage so also that. But when trying on iPad (12.5something last supported, u0) there wasn't a single TCP packet that didn't go thru the VPN even though the NE plist looked the same

So my questions at this point are:

• Am I looking in the wrong place? Cause I really have no idea where else it should be located and this seems pretty obvious.
• Is there something I have to do to the framework to make the changes visible? Like signing it or reloading it in some special way or I don't know.
• Should I approach fixing it by force routing the 17.0.0.0 subnet for example to the utun interface (that's where APNS is, you can read about the IPs and ports for different Apple services on their website). This seems like a stupid idea

Many thanks If you find some time to read this and answer.

[indigo peak]


iOS

[naive kraken]

I'm not sure what dylib you're looking at but the solution you're describing is already a thing minus the dlclose because it caused some issues iirc (check substrate changelog). SubstrateLoader.dylib does the deciding in what to load (written in barebones C for extra performance), tweaks then link against libsubstrate which is the dylib the handles the hooking. SubstrateInserter.dylib also exists but I'm not totally sure what that does.

[restive ether]

i don’t think substrate ever addressed those kinds of issues

substitute / libhooker to some degree did

but not fully

[naive kraken]

I have no idea about dyld3 closures but Substrate, substitute and libhooker all have a dylib that injects system wide but depends on nothing and I think for Substrate and substitute at least they're written in pure C. I think that guy on twitter is implying that a single non apple dylib injecting into a process is destroying dyld3, but not sure.

I think a possible solution could be to handle all tweak injection from a separate process and not by a dylib that injects, but then again I have no actual idea how the injection is working in the first place and whether something like this would even be possible (like instead of injecting SubstrateLoader, whatever injects that would parse the filter plists by itself and inject the matching tweaks instead).

fair point, that's definitely an issue

[vivid dew]

tldr

[lime pivot]

I would consider that an edge case considering sure it can happen, but how often does a user really do that

[tepid olive]

some people do it all the time

there will always be someone on r/jailbreak that does a really weird thing for no reason

[restive ether]

it’s kinda become the de facto option to fix issues you can’t directly diagnose, so a fair bit

some might still be using ldrestart but at least with procursus that’s going to change so

[lime pivot]

yeah, but it’s still very infrequently used

[restive ether]

oh yeah you won’t end up with 60 mounted dmgs like nick did

but you’ll have a handful probably if your uptime is more than a few weeks

[lime pivot]

yep

so should be fixed for sure

[tepid olive]

wen eta capt inject

[rapid arrow]

I just found out there is something called the dyld cache where the frameworks and dylibs are stored all in one file and I managed to extract the binary of the framework along with some NE dylibs from there but as far as I understand there shouldn't also be another copy of the info.plist there, even though I did find occurences of the strings from the contentfilter in a strings dump of the entire dyld cache but I assume they are there for a different reason as there is stuff related to everything in that file, they weren't actually in the framework bin/dylib

[tepid olive]

and i don’t have it

can you fix that

i gave u my private repo access

now give me yours

[vivid dew]

i think apple hired pwn

got my first panic on unjailbroken 15.3 today

[torn oriole]

Epic panic time

[sour halo]

gaming

[crimson plover]

@evulate Every time I export my theos project, if I import SwiftUI anywhere, my app crashes on load with the error 'Symbol not found.' I've been at this all day. I even used UIKit's UIHostingController to avoid using SwiftUI's 'App'.

I'm told you are the swift professional. Is there anything you know that could point me in the right direction?

[tepid olive]

Anyone got an update to date/working Theos Windows install guide?

I thought that was old

[crimson plover]

theos.dev

[tepid olive]

thx

Already failed at step 2:
Package 'libtinfo5' has no installation candidate

[vivid dew]

gj

[tepid olive]

I'm probably being dumb lmao

[crimson plover]

@tepid olive Are you running it on WSL?

[tepid olive]

Yeah WSL 2

[crimson plover]

Install the dependencies one at a time.

[vivid dew]

make sure you ran apt update first

[tepid olive]

Will do, thanks so much 😄

[restive ether]

wholesome

[ocean raptor]

Oh no

You're the guy who just forked EggNotch

[restive ether]

lmao

[next wadi]

Cope

[vivid dew]

hate to break it to you man but you're not getting that memory back

[ocean raptor]

On my Twitter search for substrate stuff I noticed people saying that dlclose is basically a noop in dyld

[indigo peak]

chariz 😄

[vivid dew]

now you know how jailbreak developers feel

[primal perch]

windows when the

[indigo peak]

me when the when you at the when you you when the: chariz 😄

[vivid dew]

when they kalloc 8 bytes but every kalloc actually allocates a minimum of 16k

trollage

[untold river]

Pickax 😁 https://twitter.com/Packixrepo/status/1485732640745476103?s=20/

Packix Repository (@packixrepo)

@SynnyG_R Welcome to Pickax repository

Twitter · Jan 24, 2022, 9:53 PM

[sour halo]

who even owns packix

[indigo peak]

@lime pivot does

[sour halo]

Makes sense.

[harsh needle]

page size moment?

[tepid olive]

i'm packix

slavery was abolished 200 years ago btw

[sour halo]

does anyone know apple's exploit release policy

[tepid olive]

yes

they release every monday

[vivid dew]

this

[primal perch]

same with racism

abraham lincoln signed the emancipation proclamation and racism was finally gone

[restive ether]

wholesome

[lime pivot]

good work guys we fixed racism

[primal perch]

do i get 64gb of ddr4 for 180$

3200cl16 ballistix 2x16 is on sale for 90$

[tepid olive]

buy me some

[primal perch]

mac users explaining why 8gb is a good option in 2022

[tepid olive]

i have 8gb @primal perch

[primal perch]

rip

[tepid olive]

when are u buying me some ram

i’m gonna solder it myself

[primal perch]

have fun getting full size ddr4 dimms on that

[tepid olive]

i’m good at microsoldering

it’ll be fine

[snow python]

Just cut it in half

[lime pivot]

that's what I bet it is tbh

how can you even "close" code that very likely has memory references from other parts of the program

[ocean raptor]

if you are loading into anything you don't need than the optimizations that substrate is killing is being killed by your loader too

[primal perch]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-cat-gif-22139058

[ocean raptor]

does having a daemon monitor for new processes not work?

[surreal mountain]

gm

[lime pivot]

that's the big issue SIMBL/now rebranded to MacForge for whatever reason had/still has

gm

[primal perch]

gm

[surreal mountain]

how are we

[lime pivot]

we are all good on this fine day

[primal perch]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-emotes-thumbs-up-smile-gif-14309344

[surreal mountain]

thats good

[lime pivot]

that there was no guarantee of when it would load, but at minimum it was always after applicationDidFinishLaunching:

so any hooks you needed early were just impossible

[primal perch]

hee hee hee haw

[vivid dew]

[primal perch]

what is the n for

[silver rampart]

would anyone happen to have a library/binary with a lot of swift metadata?

[primal perch]

wdym metadata

just like functions and shit

[silver rampart]

yeah

[primal perch]

trole

[silver rampart]

just an average swift bin

ty

[wicked summit]

gm

[silver rampart]

have been very slowly for a bit

i'm going off of the dsdump writeup (or trying, anyways, its missing details at some bits but its helpful)

• just doing the usual fucking around in IDA & REing it without help bc that's a lot more enjoyable to do

[primal perch]

real

[silver rampart]

cant wait to get to demangling

[primal perch]

objc keeping that information is an anomaly

every other compiled language strips 99% of the symbols

[silver rampart]

i really wanna see an implementation of this in objc

register all of your classnames + method selectors + properties at runtime

[primal perch]

thatd be cool

[silver rampart]

with procedurally generated strings

[primal perch]

although thats basically just C++ with extra steps / syntax

virtual functions can do a lot in cpp

[silver rampart]

does it point to selname in memory or something

[primal perch]

but the con of that is: using C++

[silver rampart]

i admittedly have almost no idea about what goes on at actual runtime vs what's static on disk

oo that's nice

[primal perch]

it does

but its also really good

[silver rampart]

^

[primal perch]

once a project gets beyond a couple thousand lines its time to pack it up into OOP for me

and theres no other compiled language that gives you control like C++ does

theres rust but its still immature and lame

yea but who wanna be doing that

struct View {
    Rect frame;
};

void View_init(View *view) {
    view->frame = RectMake(PointZero, SizeZero);
}```

fun

and theres no way to get inheritance with that

gotta implement it and vtables yourself

at that point just use C++

31 c0 90 c3

1f 20 03 d5

[silver rampart]

yeah seems (i think?) like this shouldn't be too hard to add in

i will read it when i give up on the less efficient approach

2 days off of work i have basically infinite time

c++ has use cases

writing a program in it bc it's the only language that properly suits what i need