development

[torn oriole]

Just don’t use a linter

[silver rampart]

especially for writing programs in python3 -c 'your program here'

which is nice for using bash variable substitution in a short python program

[lime pivot]

I'm sure it probably got fixed recently

[silver rampart]

not as bad as the pycharm thing where my Struct class in ktool uses some lower level fuckery for its attributes ;_;

so any time you access an attribute pycharm yells about not finding it

all my files look like this now

[torn oriole]

Pycharm issue

[silver rampart]

code issue

but doing it this way makes it 5% faster

[torn oriole]

[silver rampart]

and when you define an instance's superclass instance as a property of itself, then reference that outside of the instance to set an attribute, pycharm (justifiably) has no idea wtf you're doing

cr4shed is borked on iOS 15

[hollow harbor]

Problem OSX

[silver rampart]

crashreporter is also borked on iOS 15

feck

[indigo peak]

L

just make your own

[silver rampart]

cr4shed is great

[indigo peak]

true

can confirm

[silver rampart]

and has a great codebase ppl can easily contribute to if needed

issue with it here i think is an entitlements one

[indigo peak]

just change the entitlements

ez

[silver rampart]

am

[hollow harbor]

oh shit

cameren just got on his phone

[restive ether]

did you use spark’s

regular crash reporter barely even works on 14

[silver rampart]

didn't but the old one wouldn't even install

ios 15 has a lot of entitlement issues

[restive ether]

💀

[hollow harbor]

do you guys taurine will ever support fugu?

[tepid olive]

my nuts support fugu

[hollow harbor]

well i just bronked yo dog

now he walkin with on 2 legs

like a backword stripper

[vivid dew]

i'm running untethered taurine right now

it's a little unstable

[shell nova]

hot

[faint lion]

Taurine

Version

1.1.1

Compatible with

iOS 14.0 - 14.3

Type

Semi-untethered

Powered by https://ios.cfw.guide

[hollow harbor]

hmmm

[indigo peak]

waht version

12?

[shell nova]

you can make it compatible with fugu by modifying taurine

[indigo peak]

[hollow harbor]

dev release?

[vivid dew]

[indigo peak]

wait

11

:D

[hollow harbor]

my first time ever being jailbroken

ive seen so many problems

[silver rampart]

welcome to jb in 2021

[hollow harbor]

thank you thank you

@silver rampart

[vivid dew]

can you point out on this doll where i asked

[indigo peak]

if there was a untether for taurine, im assuming it would only support same versions as fugu

[shell nova]

I miss ios 6 kekw

[hollow harbor]

do you know how do use SwiftUI like a tweak?

[indigo peak]

wdym

[silver rampart]

i have no way to debug crashes on ios 15 fucks sake

everything is broken

[indigo peak]

including my heart

[hollow harbor]

what are you working on kat?

[silver rampart]

updating my tweaks for ios 15

[hollow harbor]

how tho

[indigo peak]

iOS 15 jailbrek

wtf

[hollow harbor]

theres no ios 15 jb

[silver rampart]

corellium

[shell nova]

ah

[hollow harbor]

tf is corellium

[shell nova]

ios but in a vm

[restive ether]

this channel should be banned

[hollow harbor]

oh

[shell nova]

ur mom should be banned

[vivid dew]

go ahead ban it

[hollow harbor]

there are messages in this channel

that date back to 2017

[tepid olive]

use a hosting view not deep

[hollow harbor]

i think thats pretty cool

[tepid olive]

[vivid dew]

i will now load react native into springboard to present a small view

[hollow harbor]

is there a guide on howto make my tweak show up in settings

or a documentation

[hardy glen]

Yes

Many

google

[indigo peak]

just look at https://github.com/donato-fiore/Gameseagull

[hollow harbor]

okay

[indigo peak]

all of my tweaks have prefs

[vivid dew]

don't click that

[hollow harbor]

thank you

[vivid dew]

it's a virus

[indigo peak]

i think

https://github.com/donato-fiore/Suffisso
https://github.com/donato-fiore/GameSeagull
https://github.com/donato-fiore/Awatara

[hardy glen]

Idk what to do all day, work on my tweak, read a book, or do ctfs all day

[silver rampart]

read book

[hardy glen]

true i am on chapter 5 on vol 3 *os internals

[silver rampart]

read a novel

[hardy glen]

Really, which one do you recommend

Yes

[hollow harbor]

shit ive had it installed for months

lol

[indigo peak]

[hardy glen]

Its a chinese spyware

[silver rampart]

[indigo peak]

[hollow harbor]

didn't know

but ok

[hardy glen]

Its not

Lmao

[silver rampart]

stopppp

[indigo peak]

too much trolling

[hollow harbor]

oh

[hardy glen]

Novel recommendations pls

[hollow harbor]

just goto spicey videos

[indigo peak]

when breath becomes air

its a memoir

about a neurosurgeon

i read it for school

[vivid dew]

the unabomber manifesto

[indigo peak]

well

[hardy glen]

About to go read captain underpants

[indigo peak]

i lied

i was supposed to read it

[hardy glen]

[indigo peak]

but i didn't

[vivid dew]

[hollow harbor]

shit i havent read a book since like the 7th grade

[hardy glen]

Captain underpants the best novel series

[vivid dew]

watch a steve1989 mre review

[hardy glen]

I would rather read charlie and the chocolate factory

[hollow harbor]

im going to make my own package

manager

[silver rampart]

fuck me they changed something with widget code again

[indigo peak]

f

will your mobius codew work

or would i need to rewrite

[silver rampart]

no idea yet

[indigo peak]

@grim sparrow

We do a little trolling 🗿

[tepid olive]

who tf is donato

[vivid dew]

imagine naming your kid donato

[grim sparrow]

Ok

[silver rampart]

does anyone know how to manually symbolicate a crash report

i am lost

[ocean raptor]

I just started project Hail Mary

[ocean raptor]

ipsw symbolicate iirc

[silver rampart]

christ it even does that

[grim sparrow]

What can’t it do

[tepid olive]

cook pancakes

[silver rampart]

work on linux

[grim sparrow]

Skill issue

[ocean raptor]

It does

I use it on FreeBSD

[silver rampart]

the apfs-fuse stuff is broken

[ocean raptor]

Not the splitting of caches

[silver rampart]

at least on the machines i tried it on

[tepid olive]

unless you own an intel macbook pro and split 30 caches at once

then it’s probably possible

[silver rampart]

its why i have to do it on macos for github actions

which cuts my concurrent jobs from 15 to 5

[ocean raptor]

Use https://github.com/blacktop/go-apfs

[tepid olive]

[vivid dew]

wtf

g*

[silver rampart]

oh and also i cant get it to work on WSL arm

[tepid olive]

g*lang

[silver rampart]

😛

[tepid olive]

wsl arm

oh my

[silver rampart]

wsl1 :D

[tepid olive]

wsl1 is cool

[vivid dew]

wsl 1 is kind of a banger

[silver rampart]

yes

[silver rampart]

do you know if this works on dyld4 caches

[ocean raptor]

Fun fact Ken Thompson designed golang and Brian kernighan wrote a book on it

[ocean raptor]

Those are the split ones in 15, right? I don't think so....

[silver rampart]

oh god

guess we'll see

[tepid olive]

who is ken thompson

[silver rampart]

Ken T

KenT believ u fell for it :troll:

[ocean raptor]

He made UNIX and the B programming language, the precursor to C

He also made ed, the standard text editor, and UTF-8

[vivid dew]

[silver rampart]

i know what i have to do but i really dont want to

[indigo peak]

wtf

[silver rampart]

interrogation marks

[indigo peak]

probably british

[silver rampart]

was going to slap some shit together to do it but it turns out you can just very very slowly do it with IDA

new in iOS 15; the iconGridSizeClassSizes: arg now takes a pointer to a struct instead of the struct itself

[grim sparrow]

lovely

[silver rampart]

useful info for everyone

always struggle with these pages bc 95% of the things that change are specific to like 2 or 3 tweaks tops https://iphonedev.wiki/index.php/Updating_extensions_for_iOS_15

[indigo peak]

@silver rampart can you dump and sideload imessage extension ipas

[silver rampart]

i have no idea if they're encrypted

or how they're packaged

afaik they'll be running as their own process, so you can probably ps aux | grep for them and lldb -n <procname> to get an idea of what's going on in it

[vivid dew]

i don't need to update my tweak for ios 15

[indigo peak]

well im not jailbroken

so i want to sideload my tweak

[vivid dew]

it is now part of the os :-)

[indigo peak]

someone wanted to play darts and i dont feel comfortable without my tweaks

[silver rampart]

lol

[indigo peak]

which tweak?

[vivid dew]

leviathan

[silver rampart]

true

[indigo peak]

https://github.com/teamleviathan/frcoal-tweak-development-guide

leviathan

[restive ether]

eyepiss is now open source

[lime pivot]

I always hear people call it "standard" but standard according to what

cavemen that haven't used any computer designed later than 1985?

[silver rampart]

@lime pivot turns out I'm still in the boxberger slack on my email

[lime pivot]

lol there you go

[silver rampart]

(12 people)

[lime pivot]

Ayden and me definitely didn't do any work on it, he just wanted us there anyway

[silver rampart]

the final messages

[lime pivot]

yeah that sounds like him from back then

[ocean raptor]

POSIX

[silver rampart]

god

[untold river]

i love launchctl arg parsing

[indigo peak]

@tacit spade you've done work with imessage extensions, do you know if it's possible to convert an installed message extension into an IPA

@silver rampart could i just take the *.app folder for the app and then place it into /Payload/ and zip and change file extension from .zip to .ipa

[native dune]

should be able to

message extensions are just apps

[grim sparrow]

time machine snapshots?

[silver rampart]

nope

just 1TB of files

my poor SSD is full

[tepid olive]

[silver rampart]

[tepid olive]

eat eat eat

[torn oriole]

Fuckin that ssd up

Eat Eat Eat

[silver rampart]

h+ on da ios 15

[native dune]

wtf

[indigo peak]

sideloading gamepigeon is not goign well

:c

[indigo peak]

idk how but i managed that

[lime pivot]

syslog will prob tell you why it won’t run

[indigo peak]

i know why its not running

bc there are 2 binaries

and i can only decrypt one

[lime pivot]

try bfdecrypt?

[indigo peak]

doesnt work

[lime pivot]

huh

oh true because it won’t directly do extensions

[indigo peak]

tried flexdecrypt, and it worked for one of the binaries

[lime pivot]

hmph

[indigo peak]

it worked for the imessage plugin

but not for the actual "app"

[lime pivot]

it definitely decrypted frameworks for me but that’s not to say it’ll decrypt appex’s

well, you could just chuck one decrypted binary in the other zip

no?

[indigo peak]

it got the binary in the .appex

i need the binary in the root dir

it looks like

├── Game Pack.app
│   ├── Game Pack (encrypted)
│   ├── Plugins
│   ├── ├── MessagesExtension.appex
└── └── └── MessagesExtension (decrypted)

[silver rampart]

oh nvm, my injector thing was finished, i just forgot to ever add it to master

https://github.com/DragonBuild/decryptor/blob/main/decrypt.py

[indigo peak]

[silver rampart]

anyways

use this https://github.com/leptos-null/inject_decrypt

Usage: DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES=inject_decrypt.dylib executable

[indigo peak]

On what device, my phone?

[silver rampart]

yes

where Executable is what you want to decrypt

oop wait

[indigo peak]

I can put a path there?

Like

[silver rampart]

Usage: DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES=inject_decrypt.dylib <executable> [-avvv] <out_path>\n"
    "  -a    all images (out_path should be a non-existant directory)\n"
    "  -v    verbose mode, multiple increases verbosity

[indigo peak]

/var/mobile/…/Game\ Pack

[silver rampart]

<executable> is what you want to decrypt

[tepid olive]

how do you run a imessage extension with dyld insert libraries

[indigo peak]

I don’t know what that means, but I’m with Evelyn on this one

[hollow harbor]

aye does anyone know how to port a storyboardUI To a Tweak?

like a guide

or anything

[indigo peak]

please go to #jailbreak

[hollow harbor]

[indigo peak]

@digital helm

[silver rampart]

where is this on disk

i forgot the layout

[ocean raptor]

uicache -i gamepidgeon.id will tell you

or uicache -l gamepidgeon.id on elu

[indigo peak]

should be in like /private/var/mobile/Containers/Bundle/Application/ or /private/var/containers/Bundle/Application/

/Game Pack

[silver rampart]

there's a cmakelists in the .appex dir

there's an xcconfig as well

[silver rampart]

i'm confused as to what you need

[indigo peak]

I need the Game Pack binary decrypted

I was able to decrypt the MessagesExtension one

[silver rampart]

so use what i sent you

[static island]

whats up nerds can i ask about not jailbreak stuff here

[indigo peak]

Sure

[static island]

hooray

well vulkan is being a pain in the ass for me

[hollow harbor]

but fr can someone tell me how i can add UIS to my tweak apps

or an guide

or something

[static island]

its deciding to segfault with some printing thing

gotta grab the code

[silver rampart]

there's genuinely no way anyone here can explain that to you in a way that wouldn't take 500+ messages

[static island]

https://pastecord.com/amajobicax.cpp

been losing my mind

[hollow harbor]

i just want like an example

github or something

like do i make it in

SwiftUI

or Storyboard

[silver rampart]

neither

[hollow harbor]

like how i can export it

[silver rampart]

are you trying to make an app

or what

[hollow harbor]

wait what

[hollow harbor]

im justing try to get into

[hollow harbor]

tweak devolpment

and learning how to make UIS

hooking

[static island]

https://pastecord.com/uhaxisuhuv.yaml
relevant crash popup

[hollow harbor]

objective-C

swift etc

[silver rampart]

imessage extensions are MH_EXECUTE

[indigo peak]

Does that decrypt the file like right then and there

[silver rampart]

they're their own binaries that get ran outside of the context of imessage (for what are hopefully very obvious reasons)

[indigo peak]

Or is there more work to be done

[silver rampart]

use https://github.com/leptos-null/inject_decrypt on the executable

that you want

[indigo peak]

So that’s why I was able to install the ipa as a home screen icon

It all makes sense now

[silver rampart]

well

not really no

[indigo peak]

it no longer make sense now

[silver rampart]

when installed properly (and i dont know the details) it shouldn't show an icon

[hollow harbor]

can i even make a App Tweak with SwiftUI?

[lime pivot]

you can install an ipa that's totally invalid and won't run, that's only one part of the picture

well as far as it needs to be a valid mach-o binary and Info.plist

valid not necessarily in terms of code signature

[silver rampart]

same with watchOS apps; all of them technically have an iOS app they're bundled with, but it shouldn't show unless you're installing it from not-the-app-store

[indigo peak]

[lime pivot]

true

oh and, yeah, I guess gamepigeon doesn't usually have an app icon

[indigo peak]

Well I didn’t install it properly

I accidentally produced the ipa just using the iMessage plugin

And not the content of the .app folder

[lime pivot]

app store has some kind of magic where it can hide an app that's really intended to be consumed via an extension rather than the container app itself

the app can just be a binary whose main() just contains return 0;, considering it's not meant to be user-accessible under normal circumstances

[silver rampart]

i have no idea about sideloading modifed imessage apps, but if i had to guess, just zip the whole .app dir over to your PC, dont even touch the main executable, do your shit to the app extension, resign everything, and resideload the app

[lime pivot]

that may be why it's "crashing", more like it's working as intended

[indigo peak]

I tried doing that but it would just do this

And sideloadly said

Same thing for MessagesExtension

[grim sparrow]

Then decrypt it

[indigo peak]

mf

[silver rampart]

did you do the thing i said to do like twice

[indigo peak]

I’m not jailbreak rn

[grim sparrow]

Fiore can’t read

[indigo peak]

So I’m having someone else do it for me

[silver rampart]

[indigo peak]

No I can

[grim sparrow]

You’d have to make a video tutorial for him

[indigo peak]

shut the fuck up

literally

shut up

[hollow harbor]

@indigo peak did you install gamesegul with sideloady?

[silver rampart]

ok i'm just going to do it rn

[indigo peak]

I’m trying

Trying to make my tweak work on jailed phones

[hollow harbor]

oh

[grim sparrow]

I love how my sleep schedule has shifted me from taking meds at 7am/pm to 2am/pm

[indigo peak]

[lime pivot]

can theos-jailed do extensions?

[indigo peak]

I have no clue

Never looked into it

[lime pivot]

try it

[indigo peak]

I’m just using sideloadly

[grim sparrow]

It should be able to

[indigo peak]

well

is there a video tutorial for theos-jailed

otherwise I can’t look into it

[grim sparrow]

There’s a random wiki page from 4 years ago with partially up to date info

[indigo peak]

that doesn’t sound like YouTube.com to me

[grim sparrow]

I was looking into this the other day

There is technically no restriction on a sandboxed app making a direct connection to the nfc chip through drivers

So in theory I could make a jailed version of Aemulo

[lime pivot]

no entitlements?

[grim sparrow]

mhm

[indigo peak]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-dr-krieger-erect-gif-12873464

[lime pivot]

that's insane

[grim sparrow]

I could ditch the whole nfcd part of the tweak

[lime pivot]

I mean the nfc thing not your penis donato

[indigo peak]

I would hope so

[grim sparrow]

Saved forever

[indigo peak]

LMAO

[grim sparrow]

But the most insane part is

[silver rampart]

also yeah, the main executable is almost more than nothing

[grim sparrow]

I could use it to bring nfc to Apple Watch

[silver rampart]

mov w0, #1, ret

[indigo peak]

Well it’s like 5kb

[silver rampart]

5kb of waste

[indigo peak]

And I’m like

166 pounds of waste

[hollow harbor]

;-;

[silver rampart]

__text is two instructions total

[grim sparrow]

I’m 127 pounds of waste

[indigo peak]

if you look on calculatoyhistory on github, you’ll find a shitty UI I made in a day

[silver rampart]

im stuff

[grim sparrow]

I have gone from severely underweight to just ok

[hollow harbor]

https://github.com/donato-fiore/calculatorhistory

[lime pivot]

both taller and skinnier than me like literal how

[grim sparrow]

Eating disorders

[indigo peak]

Yes

[lime pivot]

ok yeah that'll do it

[indigo peak]

how tall are you

[hollow harbor]

6'2

[lime pivot]

if only

5'7

[indigo peak]

@silver rampart so knowing the information of “mov w0, #1, ret” can I technically remake the binary myself

Rip bozo

I’m like

[grim sparrow]

Dw I am eating better now

[indigo peak]

The same height as _Mac

[lime pivot]

yeah yeah I'm sure you're like 10'69"

[indigo peak]

mad cause bad

[silver rampart]

not really no

like i actually dont know if that'd work or not but lets just blindly say no

[grim sparrow]

Literally cursed

[indigo peak]

:c

[indigo peak]

Well that sucks

so what should I do

Just wait for that person to decrypt it

And send me the file?

[grim sparrow]

@shut stag can you please ask your discord buddies to increase the pin limit

[indigo peak]

Bc that’s all I need lmfao

[grim sparrow]

Have you checked perfectly ethical sources for an ipa?

[silver rampart]

i did it for you

[indigo peak]

Yes

[silver rampart]

remove the _ that discord decided to add

[hollow harbor]

@indigo peak yo shit wont compile

[silver rampart]

there's ur decrypted main bin

[indigo peak]

Have you tried getting good

[indigo peak]

Thanks

A lot

I shall see how this still won’t work

Lmfao

[silver rampart]

mood

[indigo peak]

What’s the error

Is it complaining about the sdk

[hollow harbor]

found for architecture arm64

[grim sparrow]

@lime pivot would you be annoyed if I linked my watch to my Chariz account for a test?

[silver rampart]

yeah that sounds like an sdk issue

[indigo peak]

Is your tool chain fully updated

[grim sparrow]

Aaron got annoyed when I linked a device with the model “Hi Aaron” to my Packix account

[hollow harbor]

how do i check

[silver rampart]

are we getting Sileo for watchos before we even get a jailbreak

[hollow harbor]

this like my 4th day ever using a mac

[grim sparrow]

clang —version

[silver rampart]

its not a toolchain issue

its an SDK issue

[grim sparrow]

Ok so here’s the thing

[indigo peak]

Oh okay

[lime pivot]

are you a donato tomato or shrek and fiona fiore

[indigo peak]

What SDK do you have

[hollow harbor]

max@Maxs-MacBook-Pro calculatorhistory % clang --version
Apple clang version 13.0.0 (clang-1300.0.29.30)
Target: arm64-apple-darwin20.4.0
Thread model: posix
InstalledDir: /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/usr/bin
max@Maxs-MacBook-Pro calculatorhistory % 

[lime pivot]

hah, feel free

[grim sparrow]

Sileo for watchOS is already a thing

[hardy glen]

🍅 good evening everyone

[indigo peak]

[grim sparrow]

I ran Sileo Jailed on my watch already

A somewhat slow experience but it worked

[indigo peak]

Make the only thing on it aemulo

[lime pivot]

should totally work as long as you follow the APIs correctly

[grim sparrow]

Amazing

Tomorrow I am going to genuinely try and get a jailed Aemulo working

[silver rampart]

so in terms of a watchos package manager

[grim sparrow]

And if I can I will make an Apple Watch ipa

[silver rampart]

it would need to exist on the linked phone

and not the watch

[grim sparrow]

Well

[indigo peak]

i can help you test agaom

[silver rampart]

bc watch internet connection shit is fucked

[grim sparrow]

To get Sileo jailed on the watch

[lime pivot]

the device type is only relevant for helping us display something more useful than "idk just some device on iOS 15.2" on the account page

[grim sparrow]

I just compiled for watchOS with the iOS sdk

[silver rampart]

and also dont abuse that poor machine with so much computation

[grim sparrow]

Same way I do with all my watch apps

Because WatchKit can suck a dick

[silver rampart]

having the package manager based on the phone would be much better

[grim sparrow]

I know

And I agree

It was purely a would this work type situation

The only thing that didn’t work too well on the watch was LNPopupController

[silver rampart]

picturing you with a magnifying glass trying to use sileo on your watch

[grim sparrow]

Literally

I had to use the simulator and make it really big

[lime pivot]

as a former developer targeting a wrist-mounted computer: yeah, seriously, doing literally anything will drain the battery by like 20%

[grim sparrow]

Killing Pineboard uses about 3% of my watch battery

[indigo peak]

moment of truth

[lime pivot]

exaggerating but legit, the less time you can have the user interacting with the device the better

[grim sparrow]

Fortunately Aemulo would hardly touch battery on AW

Because the chip is active 100% of the time anyway

All I’m doing is putting it in a different mode

[lime pivot]

the backlight is especially terribad on such battery-constrained devices

well, not backlight, it's not LCD

but for instance you really don't want the user to be scrolling lists on their watch for very long, nor staring at a progress screen

that's just battery life you're throwing away

[grim sparrow]

Mhm

If Apple Watch jailbreaks become a feasible thing shipped to users they should definitely go the companion app approach

And install packages from the phone

[silver rampart]

https://github.com/NyanSatan/checkm8_bootkit/tree/watch this has existed for a bit

[hollow harbor]

@indigo peak Undefined symbols for architecture arm64:

[silver rampart]

its not a jailbreak but its a start

[hollow harbor]

hmm

[grim sparrow]

Yeah

Sadly not very user feasible though

[lime pivot]

I definitely would dig the idea of Zebra being able to install debs over bluetooth lmao

[silver rampart]

this is a useless message without the rest of the error @hollow harbor

[hardy glen]

Its a linker error

[grim sparrow]

Ong

[hollow harbor]

how do i fix it?

[lime pivot]

well, I say that, but bluetooth comms is notoriously unreliable on apple watch

[silver rampart]

post the rest of the error

[indigo peak]

@silver rampart still the blank screen

[grim sparrow]

It’s ok for small ish debs

[hardy glen]

^ you can’t know what you are doing wrong just by a linker error message we need the full error

[lime pivot]

more like have Zebra kindly ask its watch app to please download and install the deb found at this location

[hardy glen]

….

[lime pivot]

I think you're using an extremely old toolchain?

[hollow harbor]

ill update

[silver rampart]

they're using latest

[hollow harbor]

let me see how

[silver rampart]

what's the link to whatever you're trying to compile

[lime pivot]

because that looks like something that should only happen with old toolchains where Theos doesn't enable clang modules

[hollow harbor]

im trying to compile this

https://github.com/donato-fiore/calculatorhistory

[lime pivot]

I like how logos just renders as, white

[grim sparrow]

Wow

[hollow harbor]

its on @indigo peak repo

[lime pivot]

in the social image

[hardy glen]

thats tomato fiore hes a imposter

[lime pivot]

bottom-right is the "2.0%" of makefile

[lime pivot]

you know what we need

a watch app that's just NanoSafari

[silver rampart]

this is being proxied through your phone's internet connection over bluetooth

[lime pivot]

why? nobody knows

who needed the ability to open links from texts/emails on their watch? also nobody knows

[hardy glen]

1.1 mbps omg

[grim sparrow]

Yeah I have no Wi-Fi rn

[lime pivot]

and now compare to your iPhone

[hardy glen]

On a watch thats good

[grim sparrow]

Lmao

[hardy glen]

Oh ur on 4g

[silver rampart]

is that the ios 15 safari

[grim sparrow]

Mhm

[lime pivot]

yeah spose I'm not exactly planning to download much of anything on my watch lmao

[hardy glen]

Yes

[silver rampart]

i hate that so much

jfc

why is it at the bottom

[tacit spade]

I’ve done work with iMessage. Not extensions. Sorry to let you down

[grim sparrow]

I kinda like it ngl

[lime pivot]

as-is it already downloads stuff I don't want such as random apps I download on my phone

[indigo peak]

oh well

all good

[grim sparrow]

I kinda like that I can mess with tabs and search without moving much

It makes sense on bigger phones definitely

[hardy glen]

I like ios 15

[lime pivot]

and watchOS updates it subsequently never installs but still yells at me daily to install tonight

[grim sparrow]

I had this for 3 fucking months

[hardy glen]

I miss the jailbreak on my main only when i need snapper or a clipboard manager

[lime pivot]

the bottom address bar is fine now they stopped trying to make Safari harder to use by hiding useful buttons in the ••• junk drawer

[hardy glen]

I have no clue why apple doesn’t have a clipboard manager

[lime pivot]

you would definitely prefer it @silver rampart once you use it

since you can manipulate it just like the system-wide home bar gestures

my favorite feature is quickly flicking the address bar from right to left opens a new tab

assuming you're at the last tab already

[hardy glen]

I hate how i have to click the share button to use the find function

[lime pivot]

that's already saving like 3 seconds including all the slow tab view animations I have to wait for

[silver rampart]

neat

[hardy glen]

Nice

[lime pivot]

we get it you have good internet

[silver rampart]

it was advertised as gigabit

[hardy glen]

it feels so good to download shit in a couple minutes where as i would have to wait 30 mins to an hour on my old internet

Same but i got at max 700 mbps

With literally 15 mbps upload

[silver rampart]

thankfully my upload and download speeds are identical

[hardy glen]

I would love that

I would love even a 50 mbps upload

[lime pivot]

can't wait tbh for our government to finally install fibre from the street into our house in 2023 when I'm probably ready to move out

[hardy glen]

Fucking xfinity

[silver rampart]

this is exactly what happened to me lol

we got actual gigabit fiber in my old house right before i moved

[lime pivot]

mind you the original plan was 100% fibre connections to everyone, then the opposition won the next election and went "actually nah let's just do fibre to the street, then use the existing copper into the houses"

[hardy glen]

Idk if atnt has good fibre, we only have xfinity in my neighborhood

[untold river]

i have fiber but it's not even 100mbps

[hardy glen]

Scammed

How much do you pay

[lime pivot]

after which they went "…ok I guess that wasn't cheaper after all, alright cool, let's upgrade the whole country to 100% fibre then"

[untold river]

the connection is fiber but the speed is just crap

[late ridge]

atnt is pretty great for mua this is their gigabit plan

[untold river]

like under $10/mo iirc

[late ridge]

https://chr1s.dev/sharex/files/D3Z9Wjd.png

[untold river]

im a bit tired for currency conversion

[indigo peak]

@lime pivot can i dm you the error log for when it loads

[lime pivot]

.

[hardy glen]

WOW NICE

[lime pivot]

yeah go for it

[indigo peak]

idk if anything important is in there

[hardy glen]

xfinity is ass

I might switch to atnt

[untold river]

i think for about the same price you can get 100mbps but only in the big cities (hanoi, ho chi minh)

[static island]

how do people manage to not off themselves working with objc or swift

[hardy glen]

wym

Swift not bad

[silver rampart]

objc is great

one of my fav languages

[untold river]

lol

[grim sparrow]

[[[[[]]]]];

[static island]

i just

aaahahsdgggggg

[silver rampart]

swift(devs: be: like:)

idk if that's even the right syntax its so unintuitive

[grim sparrow]

But that’s more readable

[static island]

swiftui hurts my brain

storyboard makes no sense

[grim sparrow]

swift(devs: var, be: var2, like: var3)

Or you can just do

[static island]

swift has weird logic

[grim sparrow]

swift(var, var2, var3)

[silver rampart]

see i hate this

[static island]

objc has less weird logic

both have shitty documentation

[silver rampart]

its like it couldn't decide between being and not being objc so it decided to be kinda like objc

[grim sparrow]

I’m fine with both languages but just prefer Swift

[silver rampart]

that's like my singular only gripe with swift, everything else is great

[static island]

i just want a window with a button, a text field, and some occasional updating

[grim sparrow]

Like right now I’m working on a project which is mostly Objc and C++ and that’s fine

[static island]

not having to go through this whole thing

[silver rampart]

oh that and swift static analysis is pain

[grim sparrow]

Although I am slowly converting it to Swift

[silver rampart]

losing my mind trying to write a swift dumper

[grim sparrow]

It’s not worth it

[static island]

how does one begin to like it

[grim sparrow]

You just use it

[silver rampart]

write a lot of it

get a good IDE

Appcode is great

[static island]

so not clion?

or xcode?

[silver rampart]

xcode is shit but if you dont use another IDE you'll never realize how bad it is at a lot of things

idk how well CLion supports ObjC

[static island]

what i know is that xcode look pretty and made by apple

[silver rampart]

but AppCode is literally made for ObjC/Swift

[hardy glen]

fuck xcode

[silver rampart]

xcode looks pretty and that's about it

appcode arguably looks better lol

[static island]

what hurts is that i cant find good documentation for things

[silver rampart]

xcode doesn't even show file extensions

an IDE

[static island]

or at least documentation that makes sense

i tried looking at metal stuff, and just ended up copy-pasting a ton of code from the apple docs

[hardy glen]

wym

[static island]

did not work

[hardy glen]

For apple shit, there’s a lot of docs

[grim sparrow]

It does for certain files

[static island]

none of it tries to explain how you can make use of something, or what other things are actually relevant

[grim sparrow]

If it hasn’t got a handy icon for it like a Swift file it will show an extension

[hardy glen]

I like swift alot even though i spend most of time rn in objc

[static island]

really

i just want a window

and put a button in it

[hardy glen]

Wym

[static island]

why i need a whole mess to make it happen idk

[hardy glen]

What language do you know

[static island]

uh

the one i know the best i would have to say is probably java

[hardy glen]

Learn swift if you are doing app dev

and UIKit

Everything will make sense

[static island]

c-like languages are the most comfortable to me

[silver rampart]

😩

[static island]

if i could just use c i would gladly do so

[hardy glen]

Well you can learn objc but if you want to do app dev, you are better off learning swift

[hardy glen]

You are complaining about shit being complicated

Lmao

And want to use C

F

[static island]

c has a simple logic that makes sense

[hardy glen]

bruv

[silver rampart]

i agree with you to a certain point

but shit like literally anything to do with strings is batshit insane in C

[hardy glen]

krit where’s the advanced dev role

[grim sparrow]

[static island]

yeah you make a really good point

[silver rampart]

probably not getting it lol

[hardy glen]

You had it though

Didn’t you

[silver rampart]

no

[hardy glen]

Ah wtf

[grim sparrow]

See the thing I find odd

[hardy glen]

Oh wait you had designer as well i forgot

[grim sparrow]

Is that I used the research and resources of people here to get advanced dev and they don’t even have it yet

[indigo peak]

objc and italian

[static island]

spaghetti

meatball, meatball

[hardy glen]

I know html

[static island]

or something

idk i played mario like 5 years ago

[grim sparrow]

Oh yeah I said I would put nfc stuff on the dev wiki when I can

[silver rampart]

pls do

been trying to update some old pages lately

[static island]

of course my brain goes to new frontier craft

[hardy glen]

Yes the wiki needs a good update

[grim sparrow]

I could fully populate NearField on the dev wiki

And how to do internal nfcd stuff

[silver rampart]

understatement

[hardy glen]

I just realized a week back that theos wiki moved to external

[static island]

which one is the least garbage

[hardy glen]

Depends what you are trying to do

What are trying to learn

Uikit or swiftui

[static island]

i really dont want to use swiftui

[hardy glen]

I’d recommend starting with uikit

Yea then storyboard

[static island]

what is xib for

[hardy glen]

Its easy to use

Xib into google

[silver rampart]

https://iphonedev.wiki/index.php/NFC

[hardy glen]

Will tell you

[silver rampart]

https://iphonedev.wiki/index.php/Nfcd

[static island]

i remember trying to do a storyboard thing in xcode but i dont fucking know what any of it does and nothing makes sense

[grim sparrow]

God they’re both painfully outdated

[silver rampart]

:))

[static island]

really when i think of it

[hardy glen]

Bruh read docs and watch tutorials

[static island]

most of my problems come from tools

[hardy glen]

watch tutorials

[static island]

i try

[grim sparrow]

Makes sense

[silver rampart]

usually with these old as fuck ones its either britta having done something or a few other ppl filling in basics from 2013-2016

[late ridge]

its me

lol that was a while ago

[hardy glen]

There’s a stanford course on ios app dev

[static island]

thats cool but im a broke sophomore

[silver rampart]

https://iphonedev.wiki/index.php/Open_Source_Projects this also needs updated

[grim sparrow]

@silver rampart I’m gonna work on a jailed approach tomorrow

[hardy glen]

Its free

[silver rampart]

by everyone

[grim sparrow]

And if I can get that working I’ll do a big docs push

[silver rampart]

awesome

dont worry too much if you aren't familiar with wikitext markdown, i can clean things up

[hardy glen]

I will be contributing to that soon, i have like 4 projects i want to put on there

[static island]

stanford
free
what

damn i got a big craving for cold mac and cheese rn

[hardy glen]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9qPUrlLU4jSlonxFqhWKBu2c_sWY-mzg

Its apple podcasts as well i think

[static island]

also im targeting mac

[hardy glen]

Its old though

[grim sparrow]

iOS 7

UIKit has changed so much since then

[hardy glen]

yea but it teaches you fundamentals

[silver rampart]

https://iphonedev.wiki/index.php?title=Entitlements this needs updated especially with the iOS 15 entitlement changes

i need a checklist page somewhere of shit to update

[hardy glen]

I only sent that because he wants objc for mac apps

There’s updated swift courses

[static island]

maybe i should be a plumber

i can turn a wrench

[hardy glen]

Its not that hard though, just watch some tutorials and pull up docs

[silver rampart]

https://iphonedev.wiki/index.php/Next_Steps_After_Getting_Started lmfao this page

someone here could probably finish this

[static island]

yeah i could do that instead of dealing with whatever this is

sure i like problem solving and whatnot with programming

but this here is not fun

[silver rampart]

storyboards take the fun out of programming tbh

here we manually calculate UI offsets like the neanderthals we are

[indigo peak]

calculatorhistory moment

it was fun though

[hollow harbor]

@indigo peak good news

[silver rampart]

h+ manually calculates all of its UI

[hollow harbor]

i installed you shitty calcualtor thing

[silver rampart]

bc i hate myself

[indigo peak]

youre going to call my tweak shitty

meanwhile you cant even install it properly

[hollow harbor]

yea becuase i dont see a opening pice

[indigo peak]

ok buddy

[hollow harbor]

where is the opening thing

[hardy glen]

The auto layout constraint shit is easy

I got it in the bag after like an hour of fucking with it

[hollow harbor]

theres no app

or thing in settings

[indigo peak]

should be in the top right of the calculator app

[static island]

i cant tell if i hate programming, myself, or both

[silver rampart]

i know how to do it but its just more fun manually and that's my excuse

[hollow harbor]

what the history button?

because thats on the left

[indigo peak]

yes

im dyslexic

stop

[silver rampart]

also the way h+ does its views isn't compatible with any sane layout stuff

[hardy glen]

Yea i mean the manual anchor constraint shit

Its pretty easy

[silver rampart]

bc the codebase is several years old from before i knew objc, so i just copied FLEXible's layout structure exactly

this class is still fucked https://github.com/kritanta-ios-tweaks/HomePlusPro/blob/master/HomePlusEditor/EditorUI/MainEditorView/HPEditorViewController.m

[hollow harbor]

tf is this lol @indigo peak https://github.com/donato-fiore/GameSeagull

you forked it

[indigo peak]

tf did I fork?

I wrote all that myself…

[hollow harbor]

your saying

you own GameSeagull

[indigo peak]

yes?

[hollow harbor]

hmm

[indigo peak]

if i dont who else does?

[hollow harbor]

well

cool ig to meet you

if your not lieing

[indigo peak]

bro im not

i worked on that for 4 months

from may 2021 - august 2021

[hollow harbor]

ive had your tweak for a little while now

[indigo peak]

nice

any issues?

[hollow harbor]

nah

works good

how'd you find out

how to make a tweak show up in the settings?

[indigo peak]

uhm

well

a video helped me get the basics

but

after that

i used open source projects on github to guide me in the right direction

[hollow harbor]

oh

because for these past 3 days

ive been trying to get

a tweak profile in

[indigo peak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHEuM1e8V40

[hollow harbor]

the settings

[indigo peak]

that gives you a basic understanding of how a preference works

[hollow harbor]

bettt

ill look at that

rn

bet man

thank you

btw ive made 50$

off of one person

[indigo peak]

and then i just found random github things and looked at the structure and shit

[hollow harbor]

from cheating in

[indigo peak]

[hollow harbor]

game piggion

[indigo peak]

thats like

$200 total

that im aware of

that people won from my tweak

[hollow harbor]

well

i think he stole my airpods

so its fair now ig

[indigo peak]

[hollow harbor]

i got those air pods for free

[silver rampart]

https://github.com/kritanta-ios-tweaks/HomePlusPro finally pushed the full source to this for the zero ppl who care

[indigo peak]

I care

dw

[silver rampart]

headers still fucked lol

[indigo peak]

trying to get calculator.app

woe

[silver rampart]

the executable?

[indigo peak]

no

the entire .app folder

[silver rampart]

ios?

[indigo peak]

yes

pog

thank you

@silver rampart calculator history on da iPhone 13

:D

[silver rampart]

gj!

[untold river]

color in github actions logs how

[indigo peak]

uhh

[silver rampart]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

dragon just spits color without asking the terminal whether it knows how to handle it

so there's a chance that most tools actually bother asking and github actions says no

it could also depend on whether they're piping output; if they are, many tools also disable color (which dragon also does not)

[untold river]

i like to ask nicely with tput or something if im writing bash

[silver rampart]

should probably do that but meh

if you have an ios toolchain but not a terminal that can handle color idk what to tell you

[plain sedge]

whatd be the best way to hook push notifications

[hollow harbor]

hey you guys

im making my perfs

and i dont know whats going on

but it shows this

(i added the entry.plist)

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
    <key>items</key>
    <array>
        <dict>
            <key>cell</key>
            <string>PSGroupCell</string>
            <key>label</key>
            <string>PrefenceBundels First Page</string>
        </dict>
        <dict>
            <key>cell</key>
            <string>PSSwitchCell</string>
            <key>default</key>
            <true/>
            <key>defaults</key>
            <string>com.yourcompany.prefencebundels</string>
            <key>key</key>
            <string>AwesomeSwitch1</string>
            <key>label</key>
            <string>Awesome Switch 1</string>
        </dict>
        <dict>
            <key>cell</key>
            <string>PSButtonCell</string>
            <key>label</key>
            <string>Made by Max Buchanan</string>
            <key>action</key>
            <string>openDolphinFE</string>
        </dict>
        <dict>
            <key>cell</key>
            <string>PSGroupCell</string>
            <key>label</key>
            <string>Settings</string>
        </dict>
        <dict>
            <key>cell</key>
            <string>PSSwitchCell</string>
            <key>label</key>
            <string>Enabled</string>
        </dict>
    </array>
    <key>title</key>
    <string>PrefenceBundels</string>
</dict>
</plist>

heres my root.plist

when i goto the bundle perf

on my phone

nothing shows in there

the name changes

and thats about it

any clue why?

[vivid dew]

trolley

[hollow harbor]

;-;

can someone really help me tho

when one of you get a chance

[hardy glen]

Just use theos to do that for you

Make a tweak

Cd into tweak folder

And then add preferences from theos

Theos will automatically add prefs to your subprojects

Theos is smart like that

And also google before asking

[hollow harbor]

@hardy glen i did

[hardy glen]

F

[hollow harbor]

this is in theos correct?

[hardy glen]

Yes

[hollow harbor]

can i please show you

im so lost

ive been doing this for hours

[hardy glen]

Just delete your preferences

And add new one from theos nic

CD into theos. nic-> choose preferences

And boom

[hollow harbor]

okay

let me get it

[hardy glen]

Thats all you need to know

https://iphonedev.wiki/index.php/Preferences_specifier_plist

Heres the iphone wiki, read all of this

[hollow harbor]

[12.] iphone/preference_bundle_modern

[hardy glen]

You will not have any questions. Navigate it if you have any questions

[hollow harbor]

right?

[hardy glen]

Yes

[hollow harbor]

thats what ive been doing

[hardy glen]

Whats the issue

[hollow harbor]

In my settings

it says the name of the tweak

i set it to

but when i click on it

nothing is inside

[hardy glen]

Because

You

Have

To

Put shit in side

[hollow harbor]

what the root.plist?

[hardy glen]

I sent you the wiki

Every question you have is probably in here

It was made for this very reason

[vivid dew]

don't ask to ask, just don't ask at all

[hardy glen]

Exactly

All questions will be left unanswered here

[hollow harbor]

damn

ok

[hardy glen]

I would answer your question but you wouldn’t learn shit

I am really helping you

If you were lost for hours and you haven’t read the wiki yet then F